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		<title>By: JSNYC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JSNYC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RE:VALID PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP, FINGERPRINT, &amp; PHOTO MATCHES
     Q1) Why not REQUIRE PHOTO/FINGERPRINT/VALID PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP (rather than ID and a check in the &quot;Are you a citizen?&quot; box) to vote, collect entitlements, help eliminate waste, abuse, &amp; voter fraud? Q2)  Are occupier &#039;barry baby&#039; mobs simply well organized mobs paid for by Soros, Unions &amp; celebs - &amp; trained by Obama &amp; Alinski&#039;s rules for radicals handbooks intended to generate Cloward &amp; Piven style chaos, ex orders, martial law?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE:VALID PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP, FINGERPRINT, &amp; PHOTO MATCHES<br />
     Q1) Why not REQUIRE PHOTO/FINGERPRINT/VALID PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP (rather than ID and a check in the &#8220;Are you a citizen?&#8221; box) to vote, collect entitlements, help eliminate waste, abuse, &amp; voter fraud? Q2)  Are occupier &#8216;barry baby&#8217; mobs simply well organized mobs paid for by Soros, Unions &amp; celebs &#8211; &amp; trained by Obama &amp; Alinski&#8217;s rules for radicals handbooks intended to generate Cloward &amp; Piven style chaos, ex orders, martial law?</p>
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		<title>By: C Shmidt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[C Shmidt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Promise Me What You Won’t Do
With the federal debt exceeding 15 trillion we have over the years weakened our countries ability to remain solvent and have put a heavy burden on future generations to resolve our indebtedness due to a disregard of discipline.  Any campaign slogan or speech that begins with “I will” causes me to immediately write that candidate off.  What I want to hear is “ I won’t”:
•	I won’t support bills that increase federal debt
•	I won’t support the present rate of spending
•	I won’t support federal hand outs without built in accountability 
•	I won’t be a part of making our country weaker 
As an institution becomes less personal the ease to put that institution in greater debt increases.  From the most personal institution (the family), to businesses, to local government, to state government, to the least personal institution (federal government) there is less regard to economic discipline.  Get personal; don’t allow our national leaders to do what we would not allow in our families.   We need leaders of character not leaders of parties, leaders of discipline not leaders that buy votes with government spending, and leaders of accountability not leaders that play the blame game.  We want to remain compassionate to ones in need, but the federal government can not and should not try to shoulder the weight that should be redistributed to the private sector.  I believe in the sacrificial heart of Americans.   The present course America is on is not sustainable.   Both military spending and hand outs have to be reduced.  Focusing on who pays the debt instead of focusing on reducing the debt is a waste of time.   I am weary of “I will” promises.  Tell me what you won’t do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Promise Me What You Won’t Do<br />
With the federal debt exceeding 15 trillion we have over the years weakened our countries ability to remain solvent and have put a heavy burden on future generations to resolve our indebtedness due to a disregard of discipline.  Any campaign slogan or speech that begins with “I will” causes me to immediately write that candidate off.  What I want to hear is “ I won’t”:<br />
•	I won’t support bills that increase federal debt<br />
•	I won’t support the present rate of spending<br />
•	I won’t support federal hand outs without built in accountability<br />
•	I won’t be a part of making our country weaker<br />
As an institution becomes less personal the ease to put that institution in greater debt increases.  From the most personal institution (the family), to businesses, to local government, to state government, to the least personal institution (federal government) there is less regard to economic discipline.  Get personal; don’t allow our national leaders to do what we would not allow in our families.   We need leaders of character not leaders of parties, leaders of discipline not leaders that buy votes with government spending, and leaders of accountability not leaders that play the blame game.  We want to remain compassionate to ones in need, but the federal government can not and should not try to shoulder the weight that should be redistributed to the private sector.  I believe in the sacrificial heart of Americans.   The present course America is on is not sustainable.   Both military spending and hand outs have to be reduced.  Focusing on who pays the debt instead of focusing on reducing the debt is a waste of time.   I am weary of “I will” promises.  Tell me what you won’t do.</p>
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		<title>By: JMorcan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JMorcan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 04:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;America is being deindustrialized at a blinding pace...&quot;

If we don&#039;t end this foolish belief that international trade must be &quot;free&quot; and globalization is good for us, much of America will be third-world within 10 years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;America is being deindustrialized at a blinding pace&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>If we don&#8217;t end this foolish belief that international trade must be &#8220;free&#8221; and globalization is good for us, much of America will be third-world within 10 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Marshall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Marshall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 13:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you look at all the taxes we pay and little in return if that money was in the hands of the public that money would be put back into circulation to create jobs. Citizens can&#039;t spend what they don&#039;t have.I quickly found up to 40 taxes Americans pay. Not all of us who are retired are as cold hearted as some seem to believe. since some don&#039;t know what we do with our income i feel many are being judged unfairly.I was fortunate to have worked for a company in Houston that cared about their employees enough to see we received a decent pension. as for social security other than the 7.3 years in the Marines i worked from the time i was 16-66.i have never asked one penny from the government but i do feel i deserve my Social Security payments. How many die before they receive their S.S. payments? I believe had Social security be used for its intended purpose and not placed under general funds to be used for who knows what, it would have worked for all. Today, there has to be a better system for those of the younger generation so they can make money off the money they are placing in the system. Had our government not had a spending problem, they would have left S.S. alone. i do like the above article. Now, we need solutions. It is too late to place blame.We are rapidly becoming a socialist state.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look at all the taxes we pay and little in return if that money was in the hands of the public that money would be put back into circulation to create jobs. Citizens can&#8217;t spend what they don&#8217;t have.I quickly found up to 40 taxes Americans pay. Not all of us who are retired are as cold hearted as some seem to believe. since some don&#8217;t know what we do with our income i feel many are being judged unfairly.I was fortunate to have worked for a company in Houston that cared about their employees enough to see we received a decent pension. as for social security other than the 7.3 years in the Marines i worked from the time i was 16-66.i have never asked one penny from the government but i do feel i deserve my Social Security payments. How many die before they receive their S.S. payments? I believe had Social security be used for its intended purpose and not placed under general funds to be used for who knows what, it would have worked for all. Today, there has to be a better system for those of the younger generation so they can make money off the money they are placing in the system. Had our government not had a spending problem, they would have left S.S. alone. i do like the above article. Now, we need solutions. It is too late to place blame.We are rapidly becoming a socialist state.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 06:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The vast majority of Americans no longer believe that our imperial leaders rule with the consent of the governed. This implies that despite being &quot;democratically elected&quot;, our rulers act primary out of self interest and for the benefit of special interest groups rather than for the benefit of their constituents.  

The country is ruled by the corrupt and perverted collusion of banks, politicians and special interests.  

It no longer matters who gets elected under the entrenched power structure, something perhaps that the mob demonstrating on Wall Street has figured out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The vast majority of Americans no longer believe that our imperial leaders rule with the consent of the governed. This implies that despite being &#8220;democratically elected&#8221;, our rulers act primary out of self interest and for the benefit of special interest groups rather than for the benefit of their constituents.  </p>
<p>The country is ruled by the corrupt and perverted collusion of banks, politicians and special interests.  </p>
<p>It no longer matters who gets elected under the entrenched power structure, something perhaps that the mob demonstrating on Wall Street has figured out.</p>
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		<title>By: Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Observer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 23:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is a guy with solutions: http://jackworthington.wordpress.com/
Vote for him in 2012 via Americans Elect: http://www.americanselect.org/

He has solutions...a global businessman, not a politician. If we don&#039;t elect someone like him, we have only ourselves to blame.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a guy with solutions: <a href="http://jackworthington.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://jackworthington.wordpress.com/</a><br />
Vote for him in 2012 via Americans Elect: <a href="http://www.americanselect.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanselect.org/</a></p>
<p>He has solutions&#8230;a global businessman, not a politician. If we don&#8217;t elect someone like him, we have only ourselves to blame.</p>
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		<title>By: JMorcan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JMorcan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 22:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jobs haven&#039;t left the U.S. because of a toxic business environment. They&#039;ve left because a billion Asians have entered the global workforce in search of $0.50/hr. Countries like China and India should at least have been required to bring their internal economic infrastructure - including wages, benefits and working conditions - up to Western standards as a prerequisite for trade. Sadly, politicians have sold us out in return for corporate contributions, the ultimate conflict of interest. It is now our own democratic processes that are destroying us, and not one of our so-called &quot;leaders&quot; has the courage or moral/intellectual wherewithal to even discuss these issues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jobs haven&#8217;t left the U.S. because of a toxic business environment. They&#8217;ve left because a billion Asians have entered the global workforce in search of $0.50/hr. Countries like China and India should at least have been required to bring their internal economic infrastructure &#8211; including wages, benefits and working conditions &#8211; up to Western standards as a prerequisite for trade. Sadly, politicians have sold us out in return for corporate contributions, the ultimate conflict of interest. It is now our own democratic processes that are destroying us, and not one of our so-called &#8220;leaders&#8221; has the courage or moral/intellectual wherewithal to even discuss these issues.</p>
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		<title>By: oleguy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[oleguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Herein lies the root of the problem.  Everyone gets some sort of government handout.  Even those of you that work and pay your taxes if you own a home or have children.  The people truly getting screwed are the elderly.  Of course SS should be based on what you are receiving in retirement.

Most Americans want something from the Fed but do not want to pay for it.  Unlike alot of posters I could care less what someone makes as long as I can etch out a living and can afford the necessities in life.  The one percent is not my concern.  Never has been.  

As those of you that are familiar with Europe right now you need to look at home as our government wants us to go further down the European model and look where they are right now.  Facts are facts and most choose to either ignore them or watch TV.  Until the people actually vote for people that will represent the,m and are not corrupt we will never have a government worth anything anymore.  We are running out of everyones money to support unconstitutional activities.

Funny how the tresury can actually issue money without debt yet we borrow money  from the unconstitutional Federal bank as debt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Herein lies the root of the problem.  Everyone gets some sort of government handout.  Even those of you that work and pay your taxes if you own a home or have children.  The people truly getting screwed are the elderly.  Of course SS should be based on what you are receiving in retirement.</p>
<p>Most Americans want something from the Fed but do not want to pay for it.  Unlike alot of posters I could care less what someone makes as long as I can etch out a living and can afford the necessities in life.  The one percent is not my concern.  Never has been.  </p>
<p>As those of you that are familiar with Europe right now you need to look at home as our government wants us to go further down the European model and look where they are right now.  Facts are facts and most choose to either ignore them or watch TV.  Until the people actually vote for people that will represent the,m and are not corrupt we will never have a government worth anything anymore.  We are running out of everyones money to support unconstitutional activities.</p>
<p>Funny how the tresury can actually issue money without debt yet we borrow money  from the unconstitutional Federal bank as debt.</p>
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		<title>By: Symbolic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Symbolic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 08:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s just too presumptuous to think the narrative of Bible was inspired by a God.  Give yourself more credit than &#039;that&#039;.  You&#039;d have to disregard the many correlations to all the mythologies and religions that came before the Judeo Christian monotheistic God, in order to justify its unquestionable divinity.  Besides, Christianity would&#039;ve never evolved through western society without Constantine&#039;s recognition of the useful tool it could be.  Divinely guided to give the underclass worth and equality, or just humanity&#039;s struggle and desire to be mutually respected?  You be the judge.  As far as jobs are concerned....worldwide mutual respect for one another is a start, but as long as there&#039;s an exclusive cultural religion, it&#039;s just an elusive concept.  Nah, not really going to help jobs in the USA.  Protectionism is the first and foremost way to regain the lifestyles we as an exclusive Christian nation once enjoyed....don&#039;t let anyone tell you different, or they&#039;d be lying to you or themselves....or both.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just too presumptuous to think the narrative of Bible was inspired by a God.  Give yourself more credit than &#8216;that&#8217;.  You&#8217;d have to disregard the many correlations to all the mythologies and religions that came before the Judeo Christian monotheistic God, in order to justify its unquestionable divinity.  Besides, Christianity would&#8217;ve never evolved through western society without Constantine&#8217;s recognition of the useful tool it could be.  Divinely guided to give the underclass worth and equality, or just humanity&#8217;s struggle and desire to be mutually respected?  You be the judge.  As far as jobs are concerned&#8230;.worldwide mutual respect for one another is a start, but as long as there&#8217;s an exclusive cultural religion, it&#8217;s just an elusive concept.  Nah, not really going to help jobs in the USA.  Protectionism is the first and foremost way to regain the lifestyles we as an exclusive Christian nation once enjoyed&#8230;.don&#8217;t let anyone tell you different, or they&#8217;d be lying to you or themselves&#8230;.or both.</p>
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		<title>By: soul</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[soul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Nov 2011 15:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually Not much of a bible thumper. Two Degrees and a Masters of Science from a well known university. No need for further higher education here. I do not wish to stand with Anarchist, Communist,  big Government &quot;folks&quot;, or what the murderous Lenin called useful idiots (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot) . I wish to stand with freedom loving, individual empowering, small government people. As I said before you cannot &quot;create jobs&quot;. The environment must be created and let them flourish. Remove government private sector ties (IE lobbyist and companies like G.E. up 50% on the year), break up anything &#039;to big to fail&quot;, remove the epa and unions or severely limit them (wonder why China has done so well) and return to litigation if someone feels the &quot;earth: is suffering&quot; or a right has been infringed on,  and a few other items... o and as far as bible thumping I have found so much truth in that old dusty book. After all, the government you live under was based in a large part in deuteronomy and a Christian design. A belief any other way is just lying to yourself so you can avoid the thought that there maybe a god... Either way we can agree that jobs are needed and solutions to create them should be discussed...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Not much of a bible thumper. Two Degrees and a Masters of Science from a well known university. No need for further higher education here. I do not wish to stand with Anarchist, Communist,  big Government &#8220;folks&#8221;, or what the murderous Lenin called useful idiots (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot</a>) . I wish to stand with freedom loving, individual empowering, small government people. As I said before you cannot &#8220;create jobs&#8221;. The environment must be created and let them flourish. Remove government private sector ties (IE lobbyist and companies like G.E. up 50% on the year), break up anything &#8216;to big to fail&#8221;, remove the epa and unions or severely limit them (wonder why China has done so well) and return to litigation if someone feels the &#8220;earth: is suffering&#8221; or a right has been infringed on,  and a few other items&#8230; o and as far as bible thumping I have found so much truth in that old dusty book. After all, the government you live under was based in a large part in deuteronomy and a Christian design. A belief any other way is just lying to yourself so you can avoid the thought that there maybe a god&#8230; Either way we can agree that jobs are needed and solutions to create them should be discussed&#8230;</p>
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