Comments on: 2011: The Year Of The Tax Increase

By: Greg L

Greg L — Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:14:45 +0000

I agree with the closing of the Bush tax cuts due to the national dept to a point. The problem is that if we tax a business to closeing you are not helping the economy. There are maybe 10% movers and shakers in this country who invest in their company and work their butt off to make it work. If they have no reason to increase in wealth they will hold back.
A Family member owned a A/C company and he worked it up to 25 techs due to hard work 10 to 15 hours days 7 days a week. But after a health scare he asked himself why was he working so hard. He sold the company. The company that purchased his business fired 10 people the first day since their cost was higher due to the money they borrowed (interest). Selling the business to his techs would have generated the same money facts.
Family member now works for the county as an inspector going home at 5 PM and not hiring anyone (better benifits than when he was the boss). If you tax them out of business these movers and Shakers will move into government jobs . Taking the easy jobs off the dead beat government workers because they are 10 times smarter and very very clever. So if you want to hold on to your cushy government job keep the movers and shaker in business.
They are smarter than any government manager.
FACT! thats why they do what they do!~

By: flek

flek — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 09:15:54 +0000

It is very clear that “We the people” of the US have absolutely NO control over our government.
This is absolute, seen in the way the government is unresponsive to it’s owners.
Therefore the US, as founded and intended, does not exist. The US is gone.

By: Don Lew

Don Lew — Mon, 13 Sep 2010 06:46:20 +0000

The reason you do not have Bill’s problem is that Bill is smarter than you. He is contributing to America’s wealth. He produces. The government does not produce; it takes.

If Bill took you up on your silly offer and did give you his “problem”, you would soon run it into the ground. People like you that gripe about successful business men have zero chance of being a success.

You attitude of resentment is common with losers. America needs more Bills and fewer parasites Garys

By: olde reb

olde reb — Sat, 11 Sep 2010 13:35:23 +0000

Perhaps the previous post should have made it clear that the writer concludes the constitutional clause of Liberty includes the Right to pursue a livelihood, that such Rights are not an acceptable object for revenue taxation, that such a defense has never been rejected by the courts, that the courts improperly contort procedure to adjudicate indictments that do not allege the validity of a (non-existent) income tax (as in the Vroman rebuttal, Part 4) to prevent such a claim from being presented..

By: olde reb

olde reb — Sat, 11 Sep 2010 00:54:44 +0000

an interesting series of articles on the income tax that concludes with an analysis of US v Vroman finds the court’s opinion is inconsistent with Supreme Court holdings, with the Ninth Circuit’s more recent holdings, and with documented Due Process procedures. Ref. http://www.usa-the-republic.com/revenue/liberty/index.html

By: George

George — Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:50:15 +0000

Rick from July 29th, the local income tax is only in a few areas of the country. New York City for instance has such a tax. Taxpayers (corporate fictions)in NYC pay 2.9%-3.64% city, 4-6.85% state, and 15-35% Federal tax on incomes!

By: Rebootd

Rebootd — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:01:52 +0000

would you people stop arguing the same old stupid Liberal vs. Conservative schtick? Can’t you see that the big boys want you to argue? That they enjoy keeping you angry at each other? Can’t you “liberals” and “conservatives” see that each other is NOT the enemy? STOP blaming your fellow citizen. Almost everyone does the best they can, given what they know of the world.

there is a reason television and radio is such a wasteland of fear-mongering and attacks: to distract you from the big Corporate truck backed up to the loading dock at the Treasury. Get smart, and stop looking for scapegoats among your neighbors.

By: tommyt

tommyt — Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:43:02 +0000

We’ve all had enough taxes for the time being.

I have to side with Bill as above, he has a desire to keep his business and his employees.

Most people who are poor and want money, generally speaking, simply don’t have the desire to better themselves. It’s the same old excuses, there are only “low paying” jobs where I live. That’s may be true, so how about creating your own job on your off time?

How about moving to where they do pay? How about developing a burning desire to succeed? How about simply starting a blog website that could be monetized by ads? Make arts and crafts and sell at flea markets? Sell stuff on eBay or craigslist? Many people have started successful business’ with only the shirt on their back to become quite successful.

When a person has a burning desire to better themselves, nothing can stop them- except taxes which prohibit business growth. If you get taxed beyond belief, there is little room for growth. Growth means jobs for other people. The business cannot grow so it dies. It is taxed out of existence. Choked out life.

Guess that’s the difference between employees and business owners. One has the desire to succeed and create and multiply (helping others in the process) and one can never get enough and only wants more, consumes all he/she gets and as a result, can only help themselves.

If someone has time to complain here about people who own business, they are wasting time on developing something for themselves which in the end will benefit them and others.

By: Ed

Ed — Tue, 24 Aug 2010 22:51:27 +0000

Gary -
My Grandpa came to this country with nothing but the shirt on his back. My Dad worked multiple jobs to put himself thru night school. I am fortunate to have been able to stand on their shoulders, get a good education, and work my behind off in order to afford many of the things I want in life.

Society (and the rich) are obliged to help the poor become self-sufficient.

They are not obliged to help the lazy. Nor the people who just ‘want’ what other folks have. Nor the people who chronically make bad decisions.

If you are as poor as you say – I hope you are just unlucky, and:
1. You paid excellent attention in school and got great grades (because it doesn’t show in your posts).

2. You don’t have any kids. Because it would be very irresponsible of you to bring children into the world when you can’t support yourself.

3. You are using your computer and time to take online classes to better your resume so that you can find a better job.

If not – it sure isn’t anyone else’s problem but your own – and it sucks for everyone who is pulling your weight for you.

By: Greg

Greg — Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:03:16 +0000

Gary – I agree with Allen. Also Bill has every right to complain, he is not only responsible for 500 employees but has worked probably is whole life to get where he is today. Bill has worked and earned what he has received. It seems to me you are the one that is complaining. Instead of concentrating on writing responses on a blog, why don’t you go out and search for a job. Moreover, if you are so desolate and need to go to a food pantry how do you have computer and access to the internet?

By: Gary

Gary — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 23:35:24 +0000

Moderator-QUIT MODERATING. you are way too slow to post and edit too much out. Let people say what they want to say. I do not think there is anything anyone could possibly say that would offend me or anyone else and if it does offend, people need to grow up.

By: Gary

Gary — Mon, 09 Aug 2010 23:33:08 +0000

Bill- I had a response but the “moderator” did not post it.

You do not need to lay folks off. Simply sell your business to the employees or get a good tax lawyer. I continue to offer to trade places with you. I am the working poor and would LOVE to have your problems. I was in line at the food pantry and thought of you complaining because you had to pay a estate tax. I can bet that EVERY person at the pantry would gladly trade places with you and gladly pay any tax and still be rich.

Your wealth could really improve the quality of folks life.

By: allen

allen — Thu, 05 Aug 2010 02:12:56 +0000

gary; your problem is not unusual. you got da gimmeez. gimmee your money, and your business. in reality you should ask for the work ethic of this man. i own a small business in a small town. i could give the business to most people in this town; in sixty days they would be broke.
you should be drowning in shame, keep asking for a gimmee – you will get what you have. tough! allen

By: Gary

Gary — Mon, 02 Aug 2010 02:37:51 +0000

Bill-I would get a good tax lawyer. You will not have to close your business to pay estate tax. If I were in your shoes I would be so happy to be rich like you are that I would try to sell the business-maybe even to the employees, pay the tax and still be rich. I assure you I would not be complaining about this on a web site. There are so many people who would LOVE to have your problems. I gave you a solution and it still stands-lets trade places. Put up or shut up.

By: jk2001

jk2001 — Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:10:38 +0000

The reason why taxes are high is because our wages are lower than ever – in real dollars, we haven’t gained wages in relation to the growth in productivity. All that money went to the rich and super-rich who own the system.

Despite this decline in the middle class, the people expect services to be the same or better than they have been in the past. So, demand for services exceeds the budget, and we run defecits.

To pay for these services, we need to pay higher taxes – or figure out how to raise our own wages, so that the tax bite that government takes seems smaller.

After all, if you got a $5,000 raise, and $3,000 was taken out in taxes, you’re still $2,000 ahead – and $3,000 or some large fraction of that should come back to you in services.

But if you take a $5,000 hit in salary… you’re going to be paying less in taxes. You might even drop down a tax bracket, paying even less than before. Your taxes “got lowered” by your dropping wages. Big LULZ. You are even depriving the “gubbmint” of the opportunity to tax and spend. So we have less, and worse services as a result.

Well, that’s what we’ve experienced for 30 years. Lower wages, lower taxes. And also tax cuts that have helped rich people get richer.

By: Bill

Bill — Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:48:34 +0000

So, Gary, you would fire around 500 people, most of whom have worked for you for more than a decade, to do the things you mention?

By: Gary

Gary — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:37:10 +0000

Bill come on-I was serious about us changing problems. I was just thinking of all the debts I will pay off and how my family can finally afford to eat without going to the food pantry. I will even donate to the church. Let me take your inheritance tax worries away.

I would love to have an in ground pool that has a retractable roof so we could use it year round. I would love to travel and see other countries.

If all your money worries are stressing you out I can promise they will not stress me out.

By: Gary

Gary — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:52:48 +0000

Bill-you never commented on my offer to trade places with you-you asked me for a comment and I gave you one. Quit complaining-many folks wish they had your problems.

Do you want any cheese with all that wine (ing)?

By: Rick

Rick — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 02:51:08 +0000

Local income tax? Can someone please explain that one? I've never heard of anything like that and if the town I'm living in now has such a thing, I'm way behind in paying.

By: OnlyTheFactsMan

OnlyTheFactsMan — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:40:16 +0000

As reported by Politifact.com and in many newspapers today, 22 million jobs were created during the two terms of the Clinton administration. 1.1 jobs were created during the two terms of the Bush administration. More jobs have already been created under the Obama administration than was created in 8 years under Bush.
Wages grew by 21 percent under Clinton and only 2 percent under Bush. So much for the trickle down economic policies the Republicans so strongly believe in. Giving tax cuts that benefit the rich the most does not create jobs. It only gets us further in debt and was a major reason for our economy collapsed under the Bush administration.