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24 Outrageous Facts About Taxes In The United States That Will Blow Your Mind

The U.S. tax code is a complete and utter abomination and it needs to be thrown out entirely.  Nobody in their right mind would ever read the whole thing – it is over 3 million words long.  Each year, Americans spend billions of hours and hundreds of billions of dollars trying to comply with federal tax requirements.  Sadly, it is the honest, hard working Americans in the middle class that always get hit the hardest.  The tax code is absolutely riddled with loopholes that big corporations and the ultra-wealthy use to minimize their tax burdens as much as possible.  Many poor people do not pay any income taxes at all.  The dishonest are rewarded for cheating on their taxes (if they can get away with it) and the ultra-wealthy have moved trillions of dollars to offshore tax havens where they can avoid U.S. taxation altogether.  Our system is incredibly unfair to the millions of hard working people in the middle class and upper middle class that drag themselves out of bed and go to work each day and try to do the right thing.  In addition, the current U.S. tax system is incredibly inefficient, it diverts a tremendous amount of resources away from more valuable economic activities, and it has chased thousands of businesses and trillions of dollars out of the United States.  The U.S. tax code is such a complete and utter mess at this point that it can never be “fixed”.  The only rational thing to do is to abolish it completely, and any politician that tells you otherwise is lying to you.

The following are 24 outrageous facts about taxes in the United States that will blow your mind….

1 – The U.S. tax code is now 3.8 million words long.  If you took all of William Shakespeare’s works and collected them together, the entire collection would only be about 900,000 words long.

2 – According to the National Taxpayers Union, U.S. taxpayers spend more than 7.6 billion hours complying with federal tax requirements.  Imagine what our society would look like if all that time was spent on more economically profitable activities.

3 – 75 years ago, the instructions for Form 1040 were two pages long.  Today, they are 189 pages long.

4 – There have been 4,428 changes to the tax code over the last decade.  It is incredibly costly to change tax software, tax manuals and tax instruction booklets for all of those changes.

5 – According to the National Taxpayers Union, the IRS currently has 1,999 different publications, forms, and instruction sheets that you can download from the IRS website.

6 – Our tax system has become so complicated that it is almost impossible to file your taxes correctly.  For example, back in 1998 Money Magazine had 46 different tax professionals complete a tax return for a hypothetical household.  All 46 of them came up with a different result.

7 – In 2009, PC World had five of the most popular tax preparation software websites prepare a tax return for a hypothetical household.  All five of them came up with a different result.

8 – The IRS spends $2.45 for every $100 that it collects in taxes.

9 – According to The Tax Foundation, the average American has to work until April 17th just to pay federal, state, and local taxes.  Back in 1900, “Tax Freedom Day” came on January 22nd.

10 – When the U.S. government first implemented a personal income tax back in 1913, the vast majority of the population paid a rate of just 1 percent, and the highest marginal tax rate was just 7 percent.

11 – Residents of New Jersey pay $1.64 in taxes for every $1.00 of federal spending that they get back.

12 – The United States is the only nation on the planet that tries to tax citizens on what they earn in foreign countries.

13 – According to Forbes, the 400 highest earning Americans pay an average federal income tax rate of just 18 percent.

14 – Warren Buffett had an effective tax rate of just 17.4 percent for 2010.

15 – The top 20 percent of all income earners in the United States pay approximately 86 percent of all federal income taxes.

16 – Sadly, as Bill Whittle has shown, you could take every single penny that every American earns above $250,000 and it would only fund about 38 percent of the federal budget.

17 – The United States has the highest corporate tax rate in the world (35 percent).  In Ireland, the corporate tax rate is only 12.5 percent.  This is causing thousands of corporations to move operations out of the United States and into other countries.

18 – Some tax havens are doing a booming business in setting up sham headquarters for U.S. corporations.  For example, the city of Zug, Switzerland only has a population of 26,000 people but it is the headquarters for 30,000 companies.

19 – In 1950, corporate taxes accounted for about 30 percent of all federal revenue.  In 2012, corporate taxes will account for less than 7 percent of all federal revenue.

20 – In a previous article, I discussed how many of our largest corporations make huge profits and yet pay less than nothing in taxes….

What U.S. corporations are able to get away with is absolutely amazing.

The following figures come directly out of a report by Citizens for Tax Justice.  These are combined figures for the tax years 2008, 2009 and 2010.

During those three years, all of the corporations below made a lot of money.  Yet all of them paid net taxes that were below zero for those three years combined.

How is that possible?  Well, it turns out that instead of paying in taxes to the federal government, they were actually getting money back.

So for these corporations, their rate of taxation was actually below zero.

If you have not seen these before, you are going to have a hard time believing some of these statistics…..

*Honeywell*

Profits: $4.9 billion

Taxes: -$34 million

*Fed Ex*

Profits: $3 billion

Taxes: -$23 million

*Wells Fargo*

Profits: $49.37 billion

Taxes: -$681 million

*Boeing*

Profits: $9.7 billion

Taxes: -$178 million

*Verizon*

Profits: $32.5 billion

Taxes: -$951 million

*Dupont*

Profits: $2.1 billion

Taxes -$72 million

*American Electric Power*

Profits: $5.89 billion

Taxes -$545 million

*General Electric*

Profits: $7.7 billion

Taxes: -$4.7 billion

Are you starting to get the picture?

21 – Exxon-Mobil paid $15 billion in taxes in 2009, but not a single penny went to the U.S. government.

22 – Many wealthy Americans hide enormous amounts of money outside the country in order to avoid paying taxes.  According to the IMF, a total of 18 trillion dollars is currently being hidden in offshore banks.

23 – The number of traffic accidents spikes each year right around April 15th.  The following is from a recent Bloomberg article….

Deaths from traffic accidents around April 15, traditionally the last day to file individual income taxes in the U.S., rose 6 percent on average on each of the last 30 years of tax filing days compared with a day during the week prior and a week later, according to research published in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

24 – Most of the tax debate is focused on income taxes, but the truth is that Americans pay dozens of other taxes every single year.  The following are just a few of the taxes that many Americans pay….

#1 Building Permit Taxes

#2 Capital Gains Taxes

#3 Cigarette Taxes

#4 Court Fines (indirect taxes)

#5 Dog License Taxes

#6 Federal Unemployment Taxes

#7 Fishing License Taxes

#8 Food License Taxes

#9 Gasoline Taxes

#10 Gift Taxes

#11 Hunting License Taxes

#12 Inheritance Taxes

#13 Inventory Taxes

#14 IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax)

#15 IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)

#16 Liquor Taxes

#17 Luxury Taxes

#18 Marriage License Taxes

#19 Medicare Taxes

#20 Property Taxes

#21 Recreational Vehicle Taxes

#22 Toll Booth Taxes

#23 Sales Taxes

#24 Self-Employment Taxes

#25 School Taxes

#26 Septic Permit Taxes

#27 Service Charge Taxes

#28 Social Security Taxes

#29 State Unemployment Taxes (SUTA)

#30 Telephone Federal Excise Taxes

#31 Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Taxes

#32 Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Taxes

#33 Telephone State And Local Taxes

#34 Tire Taxes

#35 Toll Bridge Taxes

#36 Toll Tunnel Taxes

#37 Traffic Fines (indirect taxation)

#38 Utility Taxes

#39 Vehicle License Registration Taxes

#40 Vehicle Sales Taxes

#41 Workers Compensation Taxes

When you account for all forms of taxation on the federal, state and local levels there are many Americans that pay out more than half of their incomes in taxes.

We are being taxed into oblivion, and yet most Americans do not even realize that it is happening.

It is kind of like being killed by thousands of tiny cuts.

So what do all of these taxes buy us?

They buy us a massively bloated government that wastes money on some of the craziest things imaginable.

Millions of Americans work for the federal government, and yet most of them produce very little of real economic value.  The following comes from a recent National Review article….

By 2005, the federal government employed 14.6 million people: 1.9 million civil servants, 770,000 postal workers, 1.44 million uniformed service personnel, 7.6 million contractors, and 2.9 million grantees. This amounted to a ratio of five and a half “shadow” government employees for every civil servant on the federal payroll. Since 1999, the government had grown by over 4.5 million employees.

According to that same article, when you add in state and local government workers the numbers are even more dramatic….

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, there are 3.8 million full-time and 1.5 million part-time employees on state payrolls. Local governments add a further 11 million full-time and 3.2 million part-time personnel. This means that state and local governments combined employ 19.5 million Americans.

Yes, we do need some government.  For example, without any law enforcement at all our society would descend into complete chaos, and without any military at all we would be completely open to foreign conquest.

In order to have a stable, secure society we do need some government.

However, we definitely do not need the massively bloated government that we have today.

The truth is that most government employees are a drain on the system.  Most of them just push paper around.  I used to work in Washington D.C. so I know what pushing paper around is all about.

And as I wrote about yesterday, there are millions of other Americans that enjoy a comfortable existence at the expense of the federal government without doing any work whatsoever.

Of course the biggest welfare recipients of all are the big corporations.  All forms of corporate welfare should be eliminated immediately.

When are U.S. taxpayers going to get sick and tired of paying for all of this?

Every single year, the federal government, state governments and local governments drain massive amounts of desperately needed money from hard working middle class families.

Then they take that money and spend it on incredibly foolish things.

When are American voters going to stand up and boldly declare that they have been taxed enough already and they aren’t going to take it anymore?

The current tax code is completely and utterly broken and it is beyond repair.

Unfortunately, neither the Republicans or the Democrats are proposing that we should get rid of it.

So we are just going to continue to get more of the same year after year, and it is the middle class that will feel the pain.

  • Rodster

    I heard this morning on the news that car accidents spike around April 15th.

    • Rodster

      I forgot to mention I was confirming fact#23

  • Jay

    Would you people please recognize corporations and business’s don’t pay taxes. They just collect them from whoever buys their product and passes it to the government. Business Taxes should be zero. We’d see a whole lotta jobs coming back to the US of A. Oh and no business taxes also means no business welfare. A nice level playing field.

    • Rodster

      We can start with GE. Oh that’s right it’s Jeffery Immelt who runs GE. Doesn’t he work for Obumma? How nice that those thieves are DemoCraps. :)

      • terri

        btw, where is Romney’s money??? oh yeah, offshore…

    • McKinley Morganfield

      I agree 100%. Taxes upon corporations & businesses are factored into what consumers pay for products & services. Take a given product or service and think about how every transaction that transpires in the course of producing that product or service is taxed and those taxes are passed along by the producer to the consumer.

      • P. Zander

        Let’s see. Corporations do not pay taxes.

        But corporations are considered to be persons?

        Something wrong here. Both times.

    • knightowl77

      I could live with that….but until we get that done, there is no way that companies should get something back from the government, when they didn’t pay anything in – in the first place….

      So zero Corp taxes, and NO taxpayer bailouts, no subsidies, no taxpayer funded gov’t loan guarantees.

      Eliminate all deductions on income over $250k, no refunds to people that did not pay in – in the first place…..

      Limit deductions to individuals; Home mortgage (1 home max), Charity, Medical expenses in excess of 6% gross income, business expenses which create income.

      Code much simpler, much less revenue needed….

    • Lori

      A wise man once said, “a poor man will never give you a job” so, bottom line, we need the businesses to provide jobs. I agree..we have to make it appealing for companies to be here. I’m tired of speaking to people in India who 1) don’t understand me and 2) whom I don’t understand. But without tax breaks for the corporations, they will NOT come back and without them, more and more people will be forced to be on the government dole. Wake up American Legislators!

      • ivan

        We gave them tax breaks. In fact, we gave them enough tax breaks that as the article says, many of them get hundreds of millions of tax payer dollars.

        And the jobs evaporated.

        How much more tax payer money do we need to give them?

      • drklassen

        Poor people give everyone jobs all the time. They spend pretty much all they take in and that spending creates demand which creates jobs.

        Without demand, the richest person in the world isn’t going to hire anyone.

        So that saying is not so wise.

        • Gary2

          It never ceases to amaze me how the conservative fools parrot the crap about a poor man never giving me a job. If they simply stopped and thought for a minute (I know they can’t think) they could see that what you said about demand is correct.

          The utter stupidity of the right is astounding.

        • 007

          No, you don’t work for anyone who is not rich enough to have reserve capital to pay wages in good times and bad. Obama and the democrats are hell bent on taxing these same employers and their reserve capital. This is the brilliant Buffet proposal. What will the government do with it? They will spend it on corrupt and rediculous things.

          This is Obama’s only solution for our economy and the budget deficit. How much income will the buffet proposal cut the annual deficit?

          Drum roll……………two days.

          People should be offended that they are being so obviously played for fools.

          • drklassen

            And just where did that “reserve capital” come from…?

            Drum roll…….the wealth creation of laborers servicing the demand of their customers, some of which they siphoned off and called “profits” instead of increasing the wages of those who created it.

        • Larry Freedom

          As to the poor creating demand or jobs is laughable. Buying alcohol, cigarttes, blunts, hair and nails, and swapping food stamps for cash usually at a two for one ratio hardly creates the sort of demand to supply jobs that a hardworking plumber of sixteen years needs like myself needs

    • drklassen

      They only pay taxes on profits. So raising the price to “cover” their taxes…raises their taxes. So, no, we don’t pay their taxes, they do.

      Corporate profits taxes should be MUCH MUCH higher in order to encourage them not to simply bottom-line their worker pay, to pay a living wage, and to re-invest instead of take money out of their company.

      • Gary2

        again you are 100% correct thanks.

      • Terry

        Idiot

      • Jeremy

        drklassen-
        Much, much higher? We already have one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world; even higher than socialist europe. Makes you wonder why we are losing jobs overseas. *sarcasm*
        If we lowered the corporate rate we could get more investment, which equals more jobs, which equals more TAXPAYERS. More taxpayers and lower gov’t spending are the answer to solve our crisis. That will only happen with lower taxes.

      • Admiral Obvoise

        Let me just make sure I understand where your coming with this… So I am a large corp, I pay a 2% tax (after my loop holes). The Gov raises my taxes so I am now paying, let’s say 4% (after my loop holes)… Your statement say’s I won’t raise my rates cause it raises proffit which in turn raises my taxes… You’r not very good with math are you? You raise me 2%, I raise my rates 4%…. Voila! I now make the same I did before, and my consumers pay the diffrence….

  • MB92083

    You might want to get ready for an IRS audit Michael.Speaking the truth so plainly may draw you some special attention.

    • Jodi

      The 9/12 projects and tea party groups got hit with audits this year. Speaking the truth seems to make you the villain somehow.

    • Government Agent

      Your comment is in violation of statutes § 2-300 (2010), § 5-3462 (1948), § 0-2319 (3382), § 6-3354 (1243), § 6-2365 (6640), § 3-3321 (9921), § 3-4236 (8842), § 2-1298 (3400), § 3-4597, and § 2-3494 (1132).

      Local PD has been notified of your position. Please remain where you are until they arrive.

  • Craig

    When it finally all hits the fan, will blacks still expect “Payback”? Or will they finally just become one of us average Joe’s?

  • mondobeyondo

    #24 is just hilarious. We are taxed every which way but loose.

    Ugh… I’m so happy to do my part in helping the federal government sustain itself. My IRS contribution this year will be 1 trillionth the amount to fund a brand new battleship. The USS Ben S. Bernanke.

    (Excuse me while I head to the toilet to puke)

  • Peego

    1. The IRS does not lawfully exist as an agency of the federal government, as it was never created by an act of congress. This has been verified by Congressman Pat Danner, of the 6th District of Missouri and others.

    2. 31 USC, Chapter 3, Subchapter 1, shows the organization of the Department of the Treasury. Nowhere does it mention either the “IRS” or “Internal Revenue Service”.

    3. The IRS is a Private Corporation, based in Puerto Rico. You can easily verify this at http://smallbusiness.dnb.com.

    4. The Constitution Of The United States, states in Article 1, section 9; “No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration hereinbefore directed to be taken.”

    5. Nowhere in the law is “income” defined, but the courts have ruled that “income” is corporate profit or profit from an investment, and not salary or wages.

    In the case of Lucas v Earl, 281 US 111 (1930), the U.S. Supreme Court stated unambiguously that;

    “The claim that salaries, wages, and compensation for personal services are to be taxed as an entirety and therefore must be returned by the individual who has performed the services which produced the gain is without support either in the language of the Act or in the decisions of the courts construing it. Not only this, but it is directly opposed to provisions of the Act and to regulations of the U.S. Treasury Dept. which either prescribe or permit that compensation for personal services be not taxed as an entirety and be not returned by the individual performing the services. It is to be noted that by the language of the Act it is not salaries, wages, or compensation for personal servises that are to be included in gross income. That which is to be included is gains, profits, and income DERIVED from salaries, wages or compensation for personal services.
    The Court ruled similarly in Goodrich v Edwards, 255 U.S. 527 (1921) and in 1969, the Court ruled in Connor v U.S. 303 F supp 1187, that,

    “Whatever may constitute income, therefore must have the essential feature of gain to the recipient. This was true when the 16th Amendment became effective, it was true at the time of Eisner v Macomber supra, it was true under sect 22 (a) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1938, and it is likewise true under sect 61 (a) of the I.R.S. Code of 1954. If there is not gain there is not income … Congress has taxed INCOME and not compensation.”

    “Statutes levying taxes should be construed in case of doubt, against the government and in favor of the citizen.” (Miller v Gearing 258 F 225).

  • Bone idle

    King of Id. : “Great idea. After we tax the peasants out of everything they own we can tax their taxes”

    Rodney the Knight : “what’s to stop the peasants from revolting?”

    King : “Lack of funds”

  • mark

    You can’t have it both ways. I hear many say that if we cut spending in a big way we will crash. On the other hand if we don’t cut spending in a big way we will crash. Some dopes think that we can get out of our debt problem by spending more. The idea is to grow the economy. Spending by government in general is not an investment, it is just plain old spending. The private market is where the economy grows. We need to shrink the government now and suffer the pain from all of our stupid moves our country has made for the longer we wait the worse it will hurt.

    • drklassen

      Roads are an investment; rail is an investment; basic science R&D is an investment. All government spending. All spending no private corporation is going to do.

      • Draxx

        You are not just incorrect, you are totally wrong. “Roads are an investment; You bet they are and if someone wants one and it isn’t there, they build it. Why do you think the toll roads make so much money?
        “rail is an investment;” You bet they are and they are privately owned(except for Amtrack)They make money too in most cases. If they don’t someone takes them over they are still privately owned.
        “basic science R&D is an investment;” Again, you are right it is an investment. But as in every case you cite you are totally wrong in saying that if government doesn’t do it it won’t get done. That is hogwash and any person with a functional brain either does know or would if they took an instant to think about it.
        All 3 of your examples are paid for time and again by private corporations or individuals. In fact, having the government involved in any type of business transaction wastes money, time and effort better spent doing whatever you have planned. We need the government to provide for the DEFENSEof our country. That’s all. Police are basically useless for anything other than cleaning up messes. Of course, there are plenty of those. So we have to have a few to deal with messes. What we don’t need is thousands of them armed to the teeth and looking to add to government coffers by relieving the public of their excess cash through robbery at gun point for driving a little too fast or not coming to a full stop at a stop light.

  • Paul

    Same goes for Germany, and Germans are emigrating to the US because of the German tax system. LOL

    One interesting example:
    In Germany having health insurance is normal.
    However, if you have a low income you fall under federal insurance, whith higher income you can choose private insurance.

    Now it is mandatory to have health insurance.

    But, suppose you are over 55 and return from abroad and don’t find a low-paying job immediately, you lose the right to federal insurance (percentage of income to pay).
    Private insurances (fixed premium, rising every year) are now obliged to provide insurances to everyone who was rejected by federal insurance.
    As a 60year old you have to pay EU 500 per month for health insurance.

    And – for every insurance contract you have to pay insurance tax on top!

    • Paul

      Oh, you can be rejected from federal insurance because your income is too high or because you have no income.

  • ScoutMotto

    We derive NO benefit whatsoever from the federal income tax. I see people on Yahoo threads defending it with some of the poorest statements ever read. They believe federal income tax goes to their schools, police, fire fighting, libraries, roads, electricity, water, trash pickup, etc.

    The federal income tax funds NONE of these things.

    What it DOES fund: interest payments on the national debt.

    We paid some 450 billion Federal Reserve notes in interest payments, and got NOTHING for it.

  • tex

    The poor should pay no taxes. They are poor.

    • tex

      In fact they pay all or most of the 41 taxes listed above, the same as you or any other citizen. But you want a man or mother who makes $8 or $10 or $12 dollars an hour struggling to feed and shelter and educate a young family pay income taxes as well.

      You’re not really Jay! Surely your name is Romney or Gingrich or Koch or Scrooge! Have a heart man!

      • mondobeyondo

        Perhaps the reason why the poor are poor, is because they pay so much in taxes?? Just a thought.

        Oh, and if you really need a heart, you might want to email Dick Cheney. He just got a heart transplant not long ago.

      • estamos jodidos

        Why is one who is making only 8-12 dollars and hour struggling with a family? It used to be that folks had enough sense to wait until they were established and capable of taking care of themselves before starting a family. Does personal responsibility come in to play anywhere? Who’s choice was it to prepare themselves for life where all they could get was a minimum wage job? Who’s choice was it to start a family which they are not capable of supporting?

        Now you say, “Have a heart!” We should be responsible for their decisions? Is it us being heartless because they were irresponsible or planned poorly? Granted there are isolated cases of hard luck. I have seen it, and had it, but the vast majority of those struggling are sleeping in a bed of their own making.

        • tex

          It is quite possible that they were making a lot more than 8-12 dollars an hour when they started a family. The economy is in the crapper or have you not been paying attention?

          And even if they are lying in a bed of their own making are you going to turn away and ignore them as they and their kids freeze in a car or die of starvation while sleeping in a park?

          Social assistance costs less than a prison bed when desperation overcomes them.

        • Gumby

          Ok, so let’s just let them rot! Great logic my man! How about the rising inflation (Tax), that has caused us to not be able to live on 8-10-12 dollars per hour! How about the incessant greed that is pervasive in our society and the me first more more more mentality!? You are right about personal responsibility, I agree! Though what about big money’s personal responsibility? Our governments personal responsibility? What about caring for our neighbor? You do sound fairly selfish and a little heartless with your assesment of those living hand to mouth! Our mindset needs changing in this country, not our tax code! If you change the hearts and the minds to focus on what really matters, the rest will fall in line!

      • knightowl77

        We are ALL overtaxed…the Feds spend TOO MUCH MONEY with little or No accountability….

        Only those that pay taxes should be allowed to vote….otherwise you will have the non=taxpaying portion of the country voting to raise taxes on those who do….Oh wait, that is what we have now…

        CUT the Spending!

    • http://www.jonesfamily.us Ron

      Don’t worry about the poor… All those lottery tickets, and cigarette taxes, and liquor taxes (the poor ain’t poor because they’re bright)… They get to pay their “fair share.”

      While “the poor” are coveting the money that belongs to the middle class (which they themselves could have been earning, had they chosen education over child bearing)… they are doing absolutely nothing to improve their financial position.

  • Rachel

    Ok, maybe someone can explain it to me why capital gains should not be taxed the same rate as regular income from self employment is taxed. I would like to understand as it seems to me that it is unfair. Here is my thinking process…. Give 2 guys 10,000. The first one buys a bunch of items and sells them on eBay…makes a profit of $5,000. The 2nd guy takes the 10,000 and buys stock. At the end of the year he sells it and makes a profit of $5,000. Both bought and sold something… the taxes should be the same for both, but apparently they are not? Is this example correct? I am no tax accountant, just a regular confused tax payer.

    • knightowl77

      When you buy stocks or other investments…you invest your money in a company or asset. That company has the use of that money to go out make other products or hire new workers….that stock or other investment is deemed more of a benefit to the economy……
      At least that is my understanding why Capital Gains are taxed differently than ordinary income…

      • zb

        The interesting part is that if you bought that stock on an exchange, the company doesn’t get any of the money. It got a certain payment when it sold the stock originally, but odds are good you bought it from someone other than the issuing company.

    • Gary2

      capital gains are income plain and simple and should be tyaxed accordingly. That they are given any special treatment is testament to the power wall street and the bank lobby have over the fed gov.

      When the capital gains taxes were much higher no one ever said they did not want to make a profit because they would be taxed too much.

  • William

    The worst part is that the members of the US Congress who created this tax nightmare will be reelected in Nov of 2012. Now, that is STUPID!!!

    • knightowl77

      On this -we can agree….though this tax abomination has been in the works for decades….

      We should throw the whole thing out and start over with a flat tax, or VAT….something simple and fair across the board, then set it, and quit tinkering with it so people can plan on what their taxes will be next year and 5 years from now…

  • Ser Korz

    Corporations are people too ; and as any person needs some welfare , why they can get more of it of what they deserve do to they are productive! more productive than the little people who need it cut back some what.

  • Law_Reader

    Wow, I was expecting better research from this publication.

    I will start addressing these issues by number.

    2. It takes the average citizen less than 5 minutes to comply with the federal IRC. This I know do to the fact that the average citizen is not the subject of the income tax.

    6. There is no need to file a 1040 form unless you’re filing a 2555 so it does not take any time to not file.

    9. Since everything being withheld from your paycheck is 100% voluntary, “tax freedom day” starts on January 1st.

    10. The year was 1861 for the income tax.

    13. The average citizen of America pays ZERO income tax. Read the law the only one made liable for the income tax is found in section 1461 of the IRC and he/she does not withhold from citizens.

    24. #1 That stems from a zoning law ruling that never ruled zoning laws as constitutional.
    #6 False again, See case Railroad Retirement Board v Alton Railroad Co.
    #12 False, it does not apply to citizens. Read the law.
    #18 True, If you’re dumb enough to make the state a party to your marriage.
    #19 VOLUNTARY so don’t bitch about it.
    #24 Only true if you wish to pay into Socialist Security.
    #28 VOLUNTARY AGAIN/STILL see section 6211/6212 of the IRC.
    #39 False, most people are only tricked into paying it because they do not know/exercise their rights
    #40 False see #39

    • mondobeyondo

      So, are you saying there is a way to avoid paying federal income tax, WITHOUT going to federal prison?!

      Because, believe me, the IRS will ruthlessly hunt you down if you don’t pay taxes. The IRS knows where you live. They know where I live. Occasionally, they might show some mercy, but don’t count on it.

      • Law_Reader

        Show me the law if that proves I am wrong if you wish to make such a statement.

    • Gary2

      called out Michael–try harder to get the facts straight.

    • DAS

      Please tell me how to get around #40. I would love to know. I am in the market

    • 007

      Wrong on about everything. I am a tax attorney. If you don’t file your return and pay your tax you can go to jail. If they decide not to prosecute you they can financially destroy you.

      • S. Wiseman

        The federal government and the IRS (the mob and their hitmen) constitute the greatest organized crime ring in the history of mankind.

    • http://www.jonesfamily.us Ron

      Well *************** since it’s so easy, and so cheap… Let’s all just quit our complaining and pay even more!

      Yeah, I’ll get right on that.

      If the tax system is voluntary, try not paying it, and see just how long it takes for Lon Horiuchi & company to show up at your doorstep, ready to murder your family and take everything you own.

      Government excels at nothing so much as corruption, theft, and mass-murder.

      Everything else could be much more efficiently and effectively provided by insurance companies.

    • S. Wiseman

      #18 True, If you’re dumb enough to make the state a party to your marriage.

      I often wonder why folk decide to make the State a party to their own marriages, as if two consenting adults need permission from the State to prove that a union is lawful or not. If that be the case, most of our ancestors marriages were unlawful because the government did not get into the marriage license business until 1923.

      “The word license is derived from the Latin word Licentious, which means lacking restraint, ignoring societal standards, disregard for accepted rules. According to Black’s Law Dictionary, the word license is defined as – the permission by competent authority to do an act which without such permission, would be illegal.” Now in other words, this means the government makes something that was lawful to do, illegal, so they can then tell you that if you pay the government money (which is a bribe), then they will turn their backs and give you a permit that allows you to break the law that they just said was illegal to do! So the question that people need to ask themselves, is why would it be illegal to marry without the State’s permission?”
      Could apply to any so-called license issued by the State. License – permission by the organized crime family to do that which THEY say is illegal (that which before THEY got involved was perfectly lawful). Just because something is legal doesn’t mean it is lawful.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kapt.blasto Kapt Blasto

      Here’s the whole problem on WHY the income tax is, sadly, LEGAL…

      The income tax, as we know it today, still remains an “indirect foreign excise tax.”

      and it gets applied to EVERY CURRENCY NOW, that can circulate through an American’s hands, which includes the issuings from the Federal Reserve System.

      The Federal Reserve System, the Note, and all the checkable deposits that base upon the Federal reserve note, CONGRESS LEGALLY CAN TREAT AND REGARDS as “Foriegn.”

      But here’s where things get a little TRICKY…

      And it all hinges on what CONGRESS (not, necessarily YOU and ME) thinks is “foreign,” or “domestic.”

      See, it isn’t how Congress DIRECTLY defines what “Foreign” is or isn’t, but, how they define and apply “domestic,” rendering EVERYTHING ELSE as “NOT BEING DOMESTIC…”

      As long as CONGRESS retains the 1793 Coinage Act, upon “the Books,” as, the **ONLY** way that soneone, having GOLD OR SILVER, AND wishing a “domestic” currency, AND, thusly, using the provided processess from that Act, can have a “DOMESTIC” currency to circulate…

      It renders EVERY OTHER WAY that someone, in this case, an AMERICAN, can have a currency to circulate or amass HERE or THERE, as NOT being “domestic.” (or…”defacto” or “foreign”)

      And because those that use THE OTHER PROCESSESS that are not the ones that CONGRESS says one can have a DOMESTIC currency…then in Congress’ eyes, they are VOLUNATARILY using those OTHER PROCESSESS, and therefore VOLUNTARILY subjecting themselves to the INCOME TAX…

      There, that’s as simple as I can make it.

      SURE it’s disingenuous…SURE it’s dishonest…Sure it’s downright repugnant…

      But, you keep voting them in…and they’ll keep doing this to you.

  • Tim

    I heard last evening on the news that several employees of the General Services Administration (GSA) took a seven-day trip to Hawaii to attend a 1-hour ribbon-cutting ceremony. All courtesy of U.S. taxpayers.

    • Tim

      Correction: 5-day trip.

    • Michael

      That is very sad.

      Michael

  • Winston Smith

    “17 – The United States has the highest corporate tax rate in the world (35 percent). In Ireland, the corporate tax rate is only 12.5 percent. This is causing thousands of corporations to move operations out of the United States and into other countries.”

    Actually, many of those corporations still make big profits…..plus they get a lot of tax breaks, free land, support from their Govt officials (zoning, free land,roads built,etc). Walmart gets a lot of freebies from local/state/Fed govt and can, big as they are, buy much cheaper and sell cheaper then Mom/Pop stores….plus, they have been known to sell at cost or loss to drive others out. Most corproations move their operations offshore for the cheaper labor, regardless of their profits….so its not just “hey they are leaving because they are teaxed high”, but leaving for cheap labor they can manipulate overseas…..seriously, how many Americans can work and live on pennies an hour? You pay a S/C American or oriental over seas a day what the average AMerican would need to get paid in an hour, or less….Many Chinese live in bunker-like, drab apartments that are corporate/goivt owned.Jammed in there and when they drop dead or commit suicide, they are quickly repalced by others that are in teh end virtually slaves……Walmart makes billions in PROFITS a yr, yet uses this slave labor system in a Marxist nation. Do they have to? Would not a USA factory still make them profits, albeit less? Are the Waltons starving? Big buisness has zero loyalty to the nations they live in or work out of……50 yrs ago, they would be boycotted for trading with “commies”, now, heck its just good buisness and they do not have to pay their fellow citizens to make something-and horror of horrors, pay them a fair living wage and benefits.

  • Jodi

    Fact #6 is interesting, I’ve been paying taxes on a family trust for about 10+ years now. I have a tax professional do my tax for me and I’m wondering if I’ve over paid or under paid all these years. I contend I’ve over paid.

    • Jodi

      Just a side note. I’ve noticed when renewing my license plate, I pay a tax for drivers ed. I seem to remember when I was 16, my parents paid for my drivers ed. So does this mean if you’re on welfare you get free drivers ed classes?

  • pete

    NONE of Michael’s statistics blew my mind….I was very aloof reading and the only surprise for me was that it wasn’t even worse. AND THAT, is the truth.

    Americans are not going to revolt or riot. As long as tghe fiat and gasoline is flowing and the status quo appears stable…..we’re going to keep putting up with it.

    AFTER there’s a collapse and while we are in a recovery mode….and things are being sorted out would be the next window of opportunity to review our tax and income structures. It will not happen prior to that point under any circumstances. And THAT, is the truth.

  • Brandon

    You came so close…

    About “law enforcement:” You forgot to mention that one of their main purposes is to collect those taxes that you mentioned. Without them, tax law would have no teeth…or no guns and rape cages, more accurately. You also didn’t mention that another of their duties is to enrich their governments through petty civil fines after they’ve gorged themselves on the stolen fruits of labor from the masses.

    As for foreign invasion, the goal of any foreign invasion is to take over the central authority, ie government, and it’s military. This immediately gives the invading army control over the now broken population and the vast resources and infrastructure that the previous government has already stolen for itself. If an invader looked over and saw no central authority but only 300 million people armed to the teeth prepared to defend themselves, their families, and their property with no state controlled resources to win, said invader would most likely weigh the pros and cons and find such an invasion to be not worth it.

    Just sayin’…

    • S. Wiseman

      “If an invader looked over and saw no central authority but only 300 million people armed to the teeth prepared to defend themselves”

      Which is perhaps why Hitler did not command his soldiers to attack Switzerland.

  • Dave

    Michael:

    I enjoy reading your postings. I find myself agreeing with most of the time. But your libertarian utopia is getting a little long in the tooth. Name me one country in the history of the planet who ran a successful society on a libertarian platform. There aren’t any…and never will be.

    This country called Amerika….is fast moving towards a soft fascist state. Corporations and wealthy individuals have bought our elected politians….and only serve the 1%. This is not going to change anytime soon.

    You can carp all you want about debt…spending and all the other rabble you want. The sad fact is that capitalism has reached its “cancer stage”. Sad but true.

    Our population has become afraid….stupid and ignorant of these apparent facts.

    As Morris Berman says……..” It’s over America”.

    The plutocrats have won the stuggle.

    • ivan

      When people talk about “less government”, it concerns me that they never talk about “less corporations”.
      Why trade one overlord for another?

      • http://www.jonesfamily.us Ron

        The only way that “corporations” can rob the public, is through their partnership with government.

        Without the power of the gun (government) one company is no different than any other, and has no ability to force anyone to do anything.

        Without the protection of the FDA, companies who wanted to advertise “non GMO” food would find a burgeoning market. But because government is protecting the Monsanto’s, General Electric’s of the world, “we the people” are nothing more than sheep.

        It takes both government AND corporations to rob us blind. Without Washington, Wall Street is toothless, and must compete in a free market.

    • Gary2

      But your libertarian utopia is getting a little long in the tooth

      Yes yes michael please change your tune. Libertarianism is crap and will never work. Anyone with a brain should know this.

  • sharonsj

    Jay, you think business taxes should be zero? You’ve been drinking Republican kool-aid. The problem we have now is that corporations find every loophole to avoid paying taxes, plus they bribe politicians to give them every tax break possible.

    ExxonMobil made about $5 billion a year for the past five years and paid no taxes at all–and the government gave them millions in a tax “refund.” If you think that’s great, and that the rest of us should foot every bill, then be prepared for a continuation of the lord/serf feudal system we have now.

    Businesses get tax credits for outsourcing jobs. They get tax breaks if their headquarters are outside the U.S. They get tax breaks if they keep profits in foreign banks.

    And the reason so many average people don’t pay income tax is that they don’t earn enough money. But don’t say they don’t pay taxes. They pay plenty in sales tax, property tax, school tax, state income tax, and service taxes.

    • knightowl77

      the point of zero corporate taxes, is that whatever the govt costs the business – those costs are in the end passed on to the consumer who pays a higher cost for the goods….
      If your widget costs you $100.00 to make and the government charges $20.00 in taxes for making and selling that widget, then the corporation has to charge a minimum of $120.00 to break even (before any profits)….so that widget costs the consumer $120.00 (plus the corps profits) instead of $100.00 (plus the corps profits) so who really paid the tax, the corp or the consumer???
      To compete the corps go where the taxes are the lowest so they can sell their products at a lower price…

    • Gary2

      The FACT is that corporations % of taxes they pay has been going down down down and the corporations have been shifting their tax responsibilites on the the average citizen.

      I do not know how folks can say corporations are undertaxed when the simple evidence says otherwise.

      corp maybe pay 10% of the tax and people the other 90%.

      It used to be 40% for corp and 60% people.

      These are the facts–Google for yourself.

  • http://economiccollapse jackier

    Here in Colorado they are proposing another sales tax increase because the light-rail has been over budgeted. Then they want to get a millevey increase which will increase our home-own taxes. I hope they both fail big time. Yes we are taxed to death.

  • WarriorClass III

    Only Ron Paul proposes tax cuts and spending cuts. ORomney will just continue the status quo. It will take all of our involvement to stop the fraud in the primary elections, and that includes YOU. If you want to stop the maddness, you will have to get involved.

    • Daniel

      AMEN.
      No one but PAUL 2012

    • Mary

      America must awaken very soon! Ron Paul’s philosophy of limited government, sound money, a sensible foreign policy, and liberty for those of us at home is the only road to insure America’s survival and prosperity.

  • http://www.conservativemormonmom.blogspot.com Eva

    Ugh, corporate tax problems are far worse than I imagined. But Jay is right, each and every business that exists passes costs right along to consumers so they stay profitable. It’s not like we want all these businesses to follow countless others in going bankrupt and adding to the current unemployment situation.

  • http://www.conservativemormonmom.blogspot.com Eva

    I forgot to say that that doesn’t mean we should preserve the tax code! It does mean we should vote for politicians who take spending cuts seriously. It’s not like they’re even close to living within federal revenue in their reckless spending and it’s GOT TO STOP.

  • Paul M

    Know this is off topic but the situation in Greece continues to get worse.

    http://news.yahoo.com/greek-unemployment-hits-21-8-percent-113408813.html

    • Michael

      The financial crisis in Europe is never off-topic. :)

      Michael

  • libertyin413

    Taxation is Theft… Pure and Simple

    Taxation (especially the income tax) posits that the government owns your money before you do and will return what it deems fit.

    Wages are a representation of and compensation for our production and time

    If someone agrees that for 40 hours they will be paid $400 dollars, the government taking $40 is explicitly saying that they own those 4 hours of your production. This is slavery – and the 13th amendment abolished “…slavery [n]or involuntary servitude…”

    • drklassen

      Don’t want to pay? Move. Ergo, no theft. You choose to stay, you choose to pay your way.

    • Gary2

      yes move to Somolia–no gov to bother you with taxes there. You may die of unsafe food/water etc but will die happy as no one is taxing you.

      Put your money where your mouth is.

      • bobbobbob

        i like your ideas. ur a true citizen. if u need anything in a real emergency i will help u ——i am serious i just gave dccc 250$, dscc 180$, bernie (vermont) 100$, dnc 250$ my goal is 1000$ at least. defeat the rebuplicanterrorists

  • erheault

    With trillions of debt there is no way the nation can pay its debts now so it is just a matter of time before we are in a massive inflation/deflation which will result in massive protests/riots here as the rest of the world is seeing now in the broke nations.

  • savo

    No one is paying taxes, they are extorted by force. Paying is voluntary action

    • mondobeyondo

      Yeah, I might try that. Not paying income tax. Swell idea!
      See you in prison…

    • drklassen

      You choose to stay here…knowing there is a fee for services (tax). Sounds pretty voluntary to me. I hear there are no taxes in Somalia…

  • Chris

    I think that the article may be over-stating the case just a little bit. In Canada, our “tax freedom” day is June 6 (as of 2010). That makes April look pretty good. Obviously, you need to compare other factors to decide who is getting better value. [The Wikipedia list is at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_Freedom_Day

    Canada also taxes foreign income (and I wouldn’t be surprised if other countries do it as well) so I don’t think that item 12 is correct.

    Item 17 states that the US has the highest corporate tax rate in the world (35%). It does have one of the highest official rates in the world but it doesn’t appear to be the highest (e.g. Japan at 40%+). Obviously, companies with good accountants aren’t paying anything close to the top rate so this isn’t necessarily very meaningful anyway. The average of what is actually being paid would be more significant but may not be available. Changing the tax code to reduce the official rate and the loopholes would make sense but there is probably close to zero chance of that happening in the US or almost any other country.

    I enjoy this forum and find that it provides good info. No need to exaggerate. The reality is bad enough.

  • http://www.MajorityVoice.com StopDemockery

    US Income Taxes go entirely to the Crown to pay the interest on the US government’s debt. None of our taxes pay for any improvements or costs of government at all.

    And all so-called national debts are gigantic frauds, as well. Every time the Fed creates another billion dollars out of thin air to “lend” to the government, its elite bankster owners instantly become a billion dollars richer on paper. The National Debt represents the amount on money swindled from the America People by the global banking criminals ****************************************************

  • otto katz

    There are approximately 1,084,170 words in the Harry Potter series.. If you’ve read the books 3 times, you’ve read the tax code. Something your children have probably done at least twice.

    • mondobeyondo

      Is it true that the U.S. tax code is larger than the printed edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica? I heard that somewhere, but can’t verify it.

  • Larry

    corporations don’t pay taxes, people do. It’s an old aying but it’s true. When you fixate on how little corporations pay this is a waste of space. I could care less if GE pays 0 taxes. Most everything else you say are good points but when you tax corporations you are just taking money away from people in the end.

    • Dad

      This is somewhat true however a good portion of ge’s income comes from government. My understanding of the tax code is that citizens voluntarily pay and government employees must pay…. However corporations are just legal mumbo jumbo that allow people to kill and steal with minor penalties. If BP was a dba during Bhopal or the gulf spill that guy would be broke and in jail, but corporate killers polluters and thieves go on unabated…..

  • http://www.defendindependence.us/ Weston White

    Acquiring revenue through ‘taxation’ in America

    If you have ever felt that something was very out of place, ethically, and perhaps even individually disheartening about being forced to surrender vast sums of your hard earned (sustenance-based) remuneration to the federal government in the form of ‘income taxes’ year, after year, after year, simply because you have opted to be an active, productive, and responsible member of society, by way of your efforts in earning a common livelihood -and as well as to all of those interested tax-buffs out there; attached is a newly revised and freely distributable circular entitled the “Crux on Federal ‘Taxation’” (CFT).

    The CFT is intended to serve as a primer for individuals to develop a learned understanding of and renewed appreciation toward our rapidly fading American heritage and birthright.

    The CFT, as well serves to provide -you- the reader with enlightening contextual truth in regard to the federal governments actual powers of taxation. The CFT is available for your consumption at: http://www.iwarrior.defendindependence.us/download/file.php?id=91

    Thank you.

    “Points in Further Support of the CFT” (downloadable PDF): http://www.iwarrior.defendindependence.us/download/file.php?id=94

    Please, be sure to consider voting for Representative Ron Paul, MD (R-TX) in 2012.

  • al mathis

    10% tax for all not wrightoffs for any thing

  • estamos jodidos

    Taxes are bad.

    What is the more upsetting thing to me is not how much is paid in taxes, but rather how much service is provided.

    IF we had an effective tax rate of 50% but that provided security, housing, food, and health care, that would not be sooo bad. Paying over 25% but getting effectively nothing back is what hurts.

    Instead we have a country where an encroaching government, which we pay for, continues to reduce our rights and is becoming something to be feared.

    Paying taxes from my earnings so that congress can vote to give it away or squander it or re-distribute it to others who are unwilling to work?

    This is truly what is bad about the taxes we pay.

  • Bob

    The “Income Tax” is a total, complete, intentional FRAUD. See http://www.thelawthatneverwas.com/ for details. No one should pay it.

    BTW, all current taxes (sales, property, etc.) are invalid because there is no constitutional money to pay them. As long as you can avoid the governments coersion, you don’t have to pay because you don’t owe any of them.
    ~Bob~

    • http://www.facebook.com/kapt.blasto Kapt Blasto

      Bob:

      Once again, I’d like to point out something to you:

      You say you want CONSTITUTIONAL MONEY…

      Well, what if I were to tell you that according to Congress, Federal Reserve note Currency IS Constitutional…

      You wouldn’t agree with it, but then again…

      Even though MANY point to Article 1, Section 8 clause 5 of the US Constitution to say that the Federal Reserve is UNConstitutional…

      Because there IS NO QUALIFER WORD between COIN and MONEY, that CONGRESS “shall have power” to perform, as an “enumerated power/duty”

      where that clause reads:

      “to coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and to establish the Various Weights and Measures;”

      Where does it say that Congress CANNOT coin what IT might recognize as “FOREIGN”?

      Where?

      And where IN THE CONSTITUTION does it say that CONGRESS *MUST* or *MUST ONLY* or *MUST ALWAYS* coin ROUND BITS OF METAL, precious or otherwise?

      Where?

      Where does it say that CONGRESS must be the one to be FIRST SPENDER of anything which it coins?

      Where does it say that GOVERNMENT SPENDING ACTIVITY must be the FIRST THING that any NEWLY COINED CURRENCY “must” be used for?

      It doesn’t…

      Where does it say that CONGRESS MUST COIN GOLD COINS, or SILVER COINS?

      Where?

      Show me in the Constitution WHERE it says that CONGRESS must coin GOLD or SILVER coins?

  • David Gurney

    With regard to number#11:There are two reasons that NJ gets shafted in federal revenues.They are Menendez and Lautenberg.The former is a Carribean shill,while the only state in which the latter is even remotely interested is the state of Israel.We need USA Senators.

  • http://www.restoretherepublic.org Nick

    In 1939 the section of the code that was labeled “Determination of taxable income” was 1 page long, and showed that wages of Americans are NOT taxable. That section is now 30 pages long, (without any change in the law), and 1 paragraph in the section labeled “Miscellaneous” is the section where you look to find the determination. And then that section refers you to another section that is referred to as “Operative”. Figure that out by reading the whole law.
    There were no taxes withheld until the idea was broached by a man named Beardsley Ruml(udersecretary of the Tres) who understood that Americans would just go along with the small amounts taken from them rather than ask about the law. That didn’t start until about 1954.
    It is the Financial Management Service of the Treasury that is responsible for collecting money owed to the government, not the IRS.
    At ont time you could check with the OMB, and find that the form 1040 from the IRS was not an approved form as mandated by the Paperwork Reduction Act.
    The Supreme Court stated that the 16th Amendment gave congress no new power to tax.
    The 2nd Circuit ruled that a person does not even have to respond to the IRS. That has not been challenged.
    The issue at hand is the corrupt legal system; lawyers, judges, police, prosecutors, and bureaucrats. If lawyers, who also happen to be the majority of our legislators, had one shred of honesty in their bodies we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

  • DaytoDay

    Yesterday Bill Maher said the economy is improving, and made a joke about Republicans… I mean honestly, where do they get these people??

    And of course the audience is laughing/applauding because it’s nothing but high middle class/ rich people that can afford a ticket to the show anyway…

    So of course “their” economy is improving and when the studio audience starts to clap and cheer, the audience at home does the same, because they instantly get sucked into the mob mentality… And after the show ends, and they wake up at 6am to go flip burgers or stock shelves, I wonder if they still think the economy is on the up and up?

  • Barn Cat

    Corporations shouldn’t pay taxes. Corporations are owned by people. When they get money in the form of dividends they pay a higher tax rate than wages even though their investment is at risk.

    Given that the top 20% pay 86% of taxes it makes no sense to raise taxes on the rich. It only removes investment money from the economy and slows future growth.

    The biggest problem is that half of Americans pay nothing in taxes and many of them qualify for the Earned Income Tax Credit which means they get welfare money right from the federal government.

    • Gay Veteran

      Barn Cat, we have cut taxes for the rich, so where are the jobs? Oh, that’s right, they’re in China and India.

  • jimmy

    US has about the corporate tax rate of 32.7% at its highest plus misc. corporate tax rate of 6.55% which equals about 39.25%. Its the SECOND highest. The First highest is Japan which has 39.54% as its corporate tax fee.

    • Michael

      Japan recently reduced their corporate tax rate.

      Michael

  • Rog

    If I point a gun at you and demand a portion of your income, that is armed robbery. Theft by majority vote is still theft.

    “Taxes are the price of civilization.” No, taxes are the price of government, an entity that is profoundly inefficient and notoriously bad at everything it touches.

    “Roads are an investment; rail is an investment; basic science R&D is an investment. All government spending. All spending no private corporation is going to do.” All of those things private enterprise HAS invested in, but is inevitably forced out of business or co-opted by government.

    A Libertarian is someone who embraces the non aggression principal. That is, it is wrong to INITIATE force for any reason. That’s it. Do you disagree?

    There is no law that requires a human being living and working in the united states of America, and who isn’t making a profit on the use of government property or government largess to pay “income tax.

    Those of you who believe government is or ought to be a service provider or believe that government is a beneficent sugar daddy are woefully ignorant of what government is and how it operates.

    • LIBERTINE

      Yes, I very much must disagree with your definition of libertarians as peaceful nonviolent wussies as you(collectively) wish to brainwash the great unwashed into believing we are. Never in world history has liberty been achieved or maintained by any society without a bloody revolutionary purge of the tyrants and traitors. This is true of the Magna Carta, French Revolution, Founding Fathers of the U.S./Revolution War and any or every other libertarian accomplishment in world history.

  • Old Man

    Mike: The U.S. tax code is a complete and utter abomination. It’s unfair.

    Chair of Senate Tax Committee: Yup. So what new? It is meant to be unfair.

    Mike: What did you say??

    Senator: We are a capitalist society, meaning it is based on unfairness. The tax code reflects that. Those who are successful must pay less tax to encourage more success. Those who are in the middle class must pay more to finance welfare for the poor. The poor always pay little because they are poor.

    Mike: What about the complexity?

    Sen: The complexity is built-in to ensure nobody can change the beauty of American tax system. It is the best in the world. Whose who wants to change it must be Communists.

  • harry b

    And when you die the government gets to you one last time. Estat4eTax! When I settled my moters estate of 1.4 million – only 600,000 was distributed to the children and the govrnment got the rest. I figured that my parents paid the government 60% of their income through out their life span, and that included the dried milk produced for the war effort of WW2, and the 6 and 7 days of labour my father worked to help make America stron during the trying times. Every year I was a volunter for the local school in painting the lines for the courts, preparing the baseball fields for the summer, repairing things vandals did… and all for free. I paid for the p[aint and materials and the labour was the neighborhood parents. The PTPO CLUB OF ARIZONA. Well, I moved out of the country and AWAY from an unfair tax system, an unfair social system, and a failing government. Good Luck Guys ..Soooo Sooorryy.

  • http://www.real-debt-elimination.com aaheart

    One other flaw in the US tax code…its all unconstitutional and the 16th amendment was never ratified by enough states to be approved.

  • Terry

    It has never taken me more than 15 minutes to complete my state and federal tax forms in any year. This isn’t rocket science.

    The top 20 percent pay 86 percent of federal income taxes…how much of the discretionary income do they have?

    As for those not paying income taxes, a childless adult working full time at minimum wage pays over $500 annually in federal income taxes. How much discretionary income does a burger flipper have?

  • the mahdi

    It’s true but not one politician is going to dump the current system. Focusing on the return of Jesus and let Him worry about this world. Thanks for the article just doesn’t change anything.

  • S. Wiseman

    “Yes, we do need some government. For example, without any law enforcement at all our society would descend into complete chaos, and without any military at all we would be completely open to foreign conquest.”

    I would contest that. Law enforcement could be better handled by private industry where local police would have to compete – much less corruption, better service. And as for a standing military, local militias, as they have in Switzerland, would be far less costly.

  • Harry Johnson

    There need to be four changes to the U.S. tax code:
    1. Financial transactions tax –
    Let the wall street scammers pay for their own bailout. It would also discourage non productive activity like high speed trading which contributes nothing and inflates cost.
    2. Tax capital gains at the same rate as income people work for –
    Most of the so called investments are just paper shuffling and price inflation. They contribute nothing of value. Inflating the price of real estate so some salesboy can have a higher commission does nothing good. The money has not been invested in creating jobs here or unemployment would not be so high so it is time to end the preference.
    3. Tax hedge fund managers income at the same rate as income people work for –
    The so called carried interest exception is a scam. Most of these guys belong in prison for wrecking the economy, not getting special tax breaks.
    4. 100 percent inheritance tax –
    People should earn what they get not have it handed to them. They should not be rewarded for who their grandma had sex with.

  • Roger A. Van Atta,Maj.,USAFMC,Ret.

    What concerns me most about Gary2 is the implication that there is more than one.

  • Cat

    THINK ALL THE TAXES ARE CRAZY, THIS IS SO CRAZY IT’S MIND BOGGLING. GO TO PAY MY CELL PHONE BILL AND IT COST ME $3.00 TO PAY IT. I HAVE TO PAY TO PAY MY BILL. UNBELIEVABLE!

  • Rodster

    So how is it the President gets to pay only 20% taxes on close to a $1 million in salary and Joe Bite-me Biden pays only 23.2% in taxes on $379,035 in salaries?

    I know because the Dems are pieces of crap and two faced hypocrites.

  • anonymous

    taxes are not part of capitalism, they are an invention of feudal systems, everything the government taxes people for can be done without taxes and for cheaper without government taking their cut

  • Jim

    I agree and am appalled at how much tax and the laughable/cryable ‘reasons’ that they exist. This is dwarfed by the fact that our government(s)has has not limited their spending to what they have gotten through taxation. To put this another way, 50% or more of income goes to to the government and they spend twice the gross income. Do they work for us or do we work for them?

  • Rodster

    Sad state of affairs we live in today:

    Tax refunds being used to pay for bankruptcy filings

    http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/story/2012-04-12/tax-refund-filing-for-bankruptcy/54227664/1

  • Barn Cat

    The problem isn’t spending cuts. Your economy doesn’t slow down because you borrowed less to spend less. The problem is that tax increases slow down the economy and cause you to take in less in tax revenue. Government workers MUST have their wages, benefits, and retirement cut back. They’re paid at rates that are unsustainable. Especially in Greece where about 1/3 of all workers are government workers that can’t be fired.

  • http://www.verydumbgovernment.blogspot.com Al Thompson

    Here’s the problem with all of these posts: the internal revenue laws were repealed in 1939. Any discussion of tax codes is bogus. The 1954 code was built upon the 1939 internal revenue laws, but that would me that the 1954 code is invalid. I keep posting this over the internet and people don’t seem to “get it.”
    http://verydumbgovernment.blogspot.com/2012/02/internal-revenue-laws-repealed-1939.html

  • computerphilosopher

    I call him RObomney but thought it was funny to see others calling him Oromney. I’m really glad I’m not the only one who feels this way.
    Go ahead and tax everyone over 250,000 a year. We still are screwed. Go ahead and tax the oil and gas companies more. They’ll only pass on the expense to us. Libertarian utopia no…A little libertarian influence in this two party system that’s been running for 100 years would be nice.

  • http://battlefieldusa.wordpress.com/ Curtis

    Shut up and pay your fair share! Obviously, the class/tax warfare is working out just fine for TP’sTB.

    But, but, but we gotta pay our taxes!

    There are some smart people in this thread talking to you, few anyhow. The trained seals are not listening, because, well… they have been TRAINED.

  • Gary2

    Sorry conservatives–the rich will be taxed hard and the wealth spread. My side wins and you loose!

    A Washington Post-ABC News poll has just asked Americans to pick the bigger worry, “unfairness in the economic system that favors the wealthy” or “over-regulation of the free market that interferes with growth and prosperity.” They chose the “unfairness,” by a 52-37 percent margin.

    • boomer8

      Sorry, Gary, your side loses as well! Taxes stifle productivity and prosperity. You get nothing out of it but inflation and devalued currency!
      Better get over your class envy!

    • bobm

      Your side may have won… if so we will all be losers. Your socialistic, spread the wealth gospel has never worked in producing a free prosperous society. No matter how many of you progressive socialists laud your success in tearing down the fabric of American greatness to to turn it into a neo-socialist haven, it won’t work here either. Kruschev was correct if you have won.. the communists will not need to fire a shot if they can destroy America from within using the hands of such useful idiots who are enamored with the socialist diatribe. God help us all…

    • wisefool

      Gary, the degenerates already have won. Look at the media and Hollywood. With degenerates in charge though, it isn’t going to last very long as we can see.

    • pearl

      You just proved the most important point – the majority of Americans are STUPID! They don’t know who their enemy is. The program of misdirection has worked splendidly and the fact that the re-distributionists control the schools just helps to indoctrinate the masses with the Marxist ideals that allow this to continue. YOU are a prime example of the consequences of what happens to the minds of average people who don’t even understand the basics of freedom and slavery. Wouldn’t you rather have your children grow up in a country where their efforts and hard work are rewarded instead of punished? Nah!

      • DEConserv

        God you couldn’t be more right. There’s your sign of a drone no critical thinking, no understanding what this country was founded on. “FAIR SHARE” gah!!!

  • http://www.rodneylay.com Rodney Lay

    Why would any corporation want to set up their business in the USA? We have the highest corporate tax, highest wages and strictest regulations. It’s a world market out there and we’ve priced America out of it.

  • gus

    our founding fathers got pissed over pennies on taxes .now we are enslaved and in debt with flipping debts at the loss of living standards ……its time to rein in the crimes of this cabal…..

  • http://www.thefrogpot.com Treefrog

    Corporations should be called Tax Collectors, not Tax Payers. If we raise the corporate tax rate on UPS, for example, they have to add most of the increase to the rate they charge to ship a package. As a result, all their shipping rates increase. Increased shipping rates “flow” through the economy and give the Big Spenders in Congress more money to waste.

    And think of all the taxes UPS, for example, pays when they purchase vehicles, fuel, real estate, buildings, office supplies and – certainly not least -the wages they pay their employees from which those employees pay their taxes.

  • http://leon-elledge.newsvine.com/ Leon E Elledge

    In 1947, or there about, my father, then an IRS employee, suggested it would be wise for the nation to close the IRS and go to a national consumption tax of 5%. Such a tax could be collected by the states, fixed in nature, and require politicians to get a 2/3 vote to increae the rate.
    He saw, even at that early date, that the income tax would be changed to suit the people with the greatest political power.
    He also thought a transaction tax on intangables, stock, intellectual property and creative products like patents, of 1 or 2% would be effective in controling excess in the investment and banking business. At the time, his friends and fellow workers scoffed at the idea. Even though it would be constitutional as a non direct tax.
    If it had been adopted, given our progress in the last 50 years, we would have made the US immune to the virtually all financial problems we have had in my lifetime. IT IS NOT TOO LATE !
    WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE THE WILL TO DO BETTER !

  • Davidus Romanus

    Even with all those taxes, the gov’t still spends a trillion $ more than they take in every year. If they don’t cut spending, the tax code is nearly irrelevant.

  • Wizzid0

    Since Democrats believe that current taxation levels are unjust and should be increased, I propose we raise taxes on registered Democrats.

  • mp23

    Gary2 if you and people like you on both sides would stop looking at everything as “us against them”, and buying into political warfare, well then we probably wouldn’t bet vain as many issues. The times this country has been great have been EVERY time we put aside our differences and united for a cause. But then again every fight needs it narrow minded spectators that cheer even when they are right or wrong.

  • GrantF

    You said, “Unfortunately, neither the Republicans or the Democrats are proposing that we should get rid of it.”

    But presidential candidate Ron Paul (R-TX) has indeed proposed disposing of the IRS and federal income taxation altogether.

  • Bob Howe

    Remember The Boston Tea Party!!!!! What would the govt. do if every one of us refused to pay taxes? What COULD they do? The answer is very easy, nothing!!!

  • http://None Harry

    Hi
    You forgot the EXCISE TAX

  • Choo Hader

    Just hypothetically imagine how good the USSA would become if every single person employed by the federal govt died tomorrow.

  • Hey You

    My guess is that federal taxes will go to zero when the federal system breaks under its own weight. When?, I wish I knew but probably by 2020.

    People who think the USA union will be around 100 years after FD Roosevelt’s election (1932) are delusional.

  • ElMonte Slim

    And what does that taxation buy us?

    More than half of discretionary spending goes to the military. We spend more on our military than the rest of the world, combined. Adding in spending on the VA, the NSA, etc., we spend $1050 trillion/year on “defense”. China runs a very distant second, at $110 billion/year.

    • Brad

      1050 trillion a year? Are you a complete idiot? The complete annual federal budget is less than $4 trillion.

  • Neo1

    A Banksters defeatism nightmare, Being forced to Return to Real Money=United States Note=Lawful Money. The real reason you pay an income tax, is for the privilege of using a private currency. Also known As A: Federal Reserve Note, Demand from your bank or brokerage, lawful money and the tax goes away, with a tax exemption on lawful money, all of your money is yours. Use the Remedy within the Federal Reserve Act. http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/ Stop being a Slave!!!!!!
    http://www.21silver.com/?show=merrill&read=federal_reserve_act_remedy
    Tax Exemption: http://stormthunder.com/federal-reserve-act/ Web search these four different phrases: Redeemed in Lawful Money or United States Note or Redeemed in Lawful Money Pursuant to Title 12 USC §411 or deposited for credit on account or exchanged for non-negotiable federal reserve notes of face value

  • Nick Mitsinicos

    This administration has successfully deferred the effect of the devaluation of the dollar to 2013 and 2014 when (hyper-?)inflation will be an even more burdensome tax on EVERYONE! The devalued dollar will ultimately bring jobs back to the USA but our standard of living will drop like a rock. The “fairness” gambit is just a disguise to replace the current 1% with a different politically connected 1%.

  • http://toast Richard

    Your article is somewhat confusing to me. First you say that America has the highest taxes in the World at 35 percent, than you say that corperations have 17 Trillion hid out overseas then you say that Corporations don’t pay taxes, they just pass them on to the Government. In fact no American Corperation has ever paid taxes, they just collect more money from the People and pass it on to the Government. Lastly if you have ever been to any government offices you will notice that they hire a large porportion of minoritys, thus Welfare for the under classes.

  • http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/books/1109800228?ean=2940014173360&itm=2&usri=tax+code JK Roos Jr

    RIGHT ON !!!!!!!

    But, help may be on the way:)

    A Tax code in less than 25 Words? Now, there is a refreshing Idea!

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    The link below contains additional information for your convenience:

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  • http://none rolf

    bring back the OTTOMAN EMPIRE !

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