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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 03:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A massive collapse is coming that will wipe out the US banking system.  No more banks or ATMs.  Be prepared for a barter system of commerce.  Gold is IN and dollar is OUT!</description>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 17:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The banksters, instead of lending the billions doled out to them by the fed to businesses, are buying &quot;high&quot; yield treasuries. What more proof is needed that banks act only in their own interests and serve little national purpose at all. banks should be replaced with a neutral money exchange system for the taking of deposits and advancing of loans -- which is what banking is supposed to be about but isn&#039;t any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The banksters, instead of lending the billions doled out to them by the fed to businesses, are buying &#8220;high&#8221; yield treasuries. What more proof is needed that banks act only in their own interests and serve little national purpose at all. banks should be replaced with a neutral money exchange system for the taking of deposits and advancing of loans &#8212; which is what banking is supposed to be about but isn&#8217;t any more.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger A. Huddleston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger A. Huddleston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We the People must SECEDE from the USA (peacefully, by the ballot box), and return to precious metals currencies. CUT THE HEAD OFF THE SNAKE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We the People must SECEDE from the USA (peacefully, by the ballot box), and return to precious metals currencies. CUT THE HEAD OFF THE SNAKE.</p>
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		<title>By: serf1984</title>
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		<dc:creator>serf1984</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 23:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The banks can&#039;t loan money to the unwashed masses-that would cause massive inflation (as would a real, jobs-driven, recovery). Bernanke recently told congresss the Fed plans to siphon back all the excess printed money to the Fed/Treasury Dept in order to prevent inflation. Point is they never intended money to reach the serfs and I&#039;m not sure how they plans to siphon back the excess fiat money out of economy (helicopter Ben never would say) but maybe that is where a VAT tax or other massive taxes (cap &amp; trade) come in? I wish someone would explain how their ponzi scheme ends, bet they would if it ended well for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The banks can&#8217;t loan money to the unwashed masses-that would cause massive inflation (as would a real, jobs-driven, recovery). Bernanke recently told congresss the Fed plans to siphon back all the excess printed money to the Fed/Treasury Dept in order to prevent inflation. Point is they never intended money to reach the serfs and I&#8217;m not sure how they plans to siphon back the excess fiat money out of economy (helicopter Ben never would say) but maybe that is where a VAT tax or other massive taxes (cap &amp; trade) come in? I wish someone would explain how their ponzi scheme ends, bet they would if it ended well for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Dov Henis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dov Henis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 18:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greed Cancer Cells Also Follow Laws Of Evolution
Failing Treatment Of Economic Collapse Simplified

A. &quot;Survival of the fittest: even cancer cells follow the laws of evolution&quot;
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-08/foas-sot080108.php

Of course. Expected. The cancered cells are proliferating. The energy constraint of their genome is enhanced. Their genes effect ingestion of the energy of their host cells in order to survive.  They proliferate, evolve. Yes, theirs is a shorter survival time, postponement time of loss of energy, shorter than the survival time of uncancered organism&#039;s cells. But, like and even more than most humans, they instinctively act per the encountered circumstances. This is evolution. This is natural evolution.

B. Life genetics evolves via culture. In human culture one component is unique, it bypasses genetics.

Culture is a ubiquitous biological entity 
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/posts/list/98.page#266

There is natural ubiquitous evolution and there is human cultural evolution. Humans evolved language, that became a biological entity.

Whereas nature&#039;s evolutionary rungs are gains or losses of energy constraints for few &quot;fittest&quot; at ongoing circumstantial constellations, including modifications of genetic expressions, some Western cultured groups assess and extend the prospective temporal limits of evolution beyond the immediate scenario. They manipulate the circumstantial constellations, postponing or modifying natural evolution, to gain enhanced energy constraints for a community much larger than of &quot;few fittest&quot;. This is what all levels of politics are about. Local, national and international.

C. Greed cancer cells also follow laws of evolution, with money being humans&#039; cultural energy. 

Not only physiological cancer cells follow the laws of evolution. Human greed cancer cells follow  them, too. Evolution is evolution. EOTOE.

The total amount of cosmic energy is constant even if mass diminishes with the ongoing expansion. Hence the universal melee of mass specimens to ingest each other&#039;s energy to survive. Ingesting energy translates into ingesting mass, which is the other face of energy. Humans artificed money to stand for energy. The ideal ethical goal per the 20th-21st centuries technology culture is amassing money, the human energy artifact. Humanity&#039;s present technology culture is founded on the brilliant idea that whereas in nature it takes work, converting of mass, to &#039;amass&#039; energy, humans will - instead - print money, print it and base on it a make-belief culture, founded on make-belief energy. Printing money, posits the brilliant thinking, enables us to bypass nature, to spend more energy than we actually amassed. 

D. So again and again, the economic collapse will not be repaired by mechanisms but by basic cultural modifications 

The greed cancer cure requires a prolonged resolute determined change of culture, of values and ethics and goals, of consumption and living modes and patterns.

Dov Henis
(Comments From The 22nd Century)
03.2010 Updated Life Manifest 
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/posts/list/54.page#5065
Cosmic Evolution Simplified
http://www.the-scientist.com/community/posts/list/240/122.page#4427</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greed Cancer Cells Also Follow Laws Of Evolution<br />
Failing Treatment Of Economic Collapse Simplified</p>
<p>A. &#8220;Survival of the fittest: even cancer cells follow the laws of evolution&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-08/foas-sot080108.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-08/foas-sot080108.php</a></p>
<p>Of course. Expected. The cancered cells are proliferating. The energy constraint of their genome is enhanced. Their genes effect ingestion of the energy of their host cells in order to survive.  They proliferate, evolve. Yes, theirs is a shorter survival time, postponement time of loss of energy, shorter than the survival time of uncancered organism&#8217;s cells. But, like and even more than most humans, they instinctively act per the encountered circumstances. This is evolution. This is natural evolution.</p>
<p>B. Life genetics evolves via culture. In human culture one component is unique, it bypasses genetics.</p>
<p>Culture is a ubiquitous biological entity<br />
<a href="http://www.the-scientist.com/community/posts/list/98.page#266" rel="nofollow">http://www.the-scientist.com/community/posts/list/98.page#266</a></p>
<p>There is natural ubiquitous evolution and there is human cultural evolution. Humans evolved language, that became a biological entity.</p>
<p>Whereas nature&#8217;s evolutionary rungs are gains or losses of energy constraints for few &#8220;fittest&#8221; at ongoing circumstantial constellations, including modifications of genetic expressions, some Western cultured groups assess and extend the prospective temporal limits of evolution beyond the immediate scenario. They manipulate the circumstantial constellations, postponing or modifying natural evolution, to gain enhanced energy constraints for a community much larger than of &#8220;few fittest&#8221;. This is what all levels of politics are about. Local, national and international.</p>
<p>C. Greed cancer cells also follow laws of evolution, with money being humans&#8217; cultural energy. </p>
<p>Not only physiological cancer cells follow the laws of evolution. Human greed cancer cells follow  them, too. Evolution is evolution. EOTOE.</p>
<p>The total amount of cosmic energy is constant even if mass diminishes with the ongoing expansion. Hence the universal melee of mass specimens to ingest each other&#8217;s energy to survive. Ingesting energy translates into ingesting mass, which is the other face of energy. Humans artificed money to stand for energy. The ideal ethical goal per the 20th-21st centuries technology culture is amassing money, the human energy artifact. Humanity&#8217;s present technology culture is founded on the brilliant idea that whereas in nature it takes work, converting of mass, to &#8216;amass&#8217; energy, humans will &#8211; instead &#8211; print money, print it and base on it a make-belief culture, founded on make-belief energy. Printing money, posits the brilliant thinking, enables us to bypass nature, to spend more energy than we actually amassed. </p>
<p>D. So again and again, the economic collapse will not be repaired by mechanisms but by basic cultural modifications </p>
<p>The greed cancer cure requires a prolonged resolute determined change of culture, of values and ethics and goals, of consumption and living modes and patterns.</p>
<p>Dov Henis<br />
(Comments From The 22nd Century)<br />
03.2010 Updated Life Manifest<br />
<a href="http://www.the-scientist.com/community/posts/list/54.page#5065" rel="nofollow">http://www.the-scientist.com/community/posts/list/54.page#5065</a><br />
Cosmic Evolution Simplified<br />
<a href="http://www.the-scientist.com/community/posts/list/240/122.page#4427" rel="nofollow">http://www.the-scientist.com/community/posts/list/240/122.page#4427</a></p>
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		<title>By: TLC</title>
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		<dc:creator>TLC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 22:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None of this surprises if you understand that the Fed&#039;s purpose is to protect the precious banking system at all costs. If this latest crisis and how it is being handled doesn&#039;t make it obvious whos interest are being served and who really runs this country, I&#039;ll give you a clue- it&#039;s not Mr and Mrs Average working American....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of this surprises if you understand that the Fed&#8217;s purpose is to protect the precious banking system at all costs. If this latest crisis and how it is being handled doesn&#8217;t make it obvious whos interest are being served and who really runs this country, I&#8217;ll give you a clue- it&#8217;s not Mr and Mrs Average working American&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: disengaged</title>
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		<dc:creator>disengaged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 14:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>two issues
1. illiteracy is much higher than publicly stated. the census ask if you can read a newspaper, no one checks. but a study a few years back in south chicago (interviewers tested houselhoders) showed 67% functional illiteracy. yes you read that right 67%.

2. americans dont have a culture of arguing with their masters. demonstrating and rioting against oppressive govt action is second nature to the french (and we see the greeks too). 

so dont hold your breath waiting for yankee doodle to either understand the situation or do anything about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>two issues<br />
1. illiteracy is much higher than publicly stated. the census ask if you can read a newspaper, no one checks. but a study a few years back in south chicago (interviewers tested houselhoders) showed 67% functional illiteracy. yes you read that right 67%.</p>
<p>2. americans dont have a culture of arguing with their masters. demonstrating and rioting against oppressive govt action is second nature to the french (and we see the greeks too). </p>
<p>so dont hold your breath waiting for yankee doodle to either understand the situation or do anything about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Aury (Thunderdrake)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aury (Thunderdrake)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 21:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abolish the Fed. Reform the banking system.

That&#039;s all I can say from here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abolish the Fed. Reform the banking system.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all I can say from here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: daveco</title>
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		<dc:creator>daveco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 06:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am glad somebody is doing math.  But alas the general public does not see it and the media is a complete JOKE.   

Americans are by and large stupid idiots who have college degrees but can not do simple math!

I watch tv only to see what propaganda is being spewed to understand when to duck and when to hide.

The stock market is not only a lie but the idea that the dow is a measure of prosperity is so laughable that it is tragic to SEE how many believe it!  When a company goes down like gm they just replace it with another, now how does that make the number any good!

Also the sub prime mortgage was supposedly how the banks lost money yet nobody can do simple math to realize that loaning money over 10% that you borrowed from the federal reserve at less than 1% means that you only have to get 30% to pay and you make lots of money!  Ask any loan shark!  Well 50% did pay so how did the banks lose anything not to mention pmi. 

The answers are simple.  Vote and Vote some more.  Not blindly tea party but for people who will only do 

two simple laws.

1.  The government makes the money and does not borrow from anyone!

2.  Our government does not allow any imports from countries that do not follow our minimum wage laws, labor laws, environmental laws, and litigation laws.

Why have someone besides the government print and control money, it is illegal under the constitution.

WHy have minimum wage laws and environmental laws and litigation laws if the corporations can just thumb there nose at them by driving over a border to Mexico or ship it from China and India.

But Americans are too stupid to stand up for this and too busy watching survivor and dancing with the stars to understand what a bunch of idiots we are and we are handing our children a bag of shit that our forefathers worked there asses off for and gave us if not a silver spoon than at least a pot to piss in and home to go to at night and now we let the banks take the pot and the house!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad somebody is doing math.  But alas the general public does not see it and the media is a complete JOKE.   </p>
<p>Americans are by and large stupid idiots who have college degrees but can not do simple math!</p>
<p>I watch tv only to see what propaganda is being spewed to understand when to duck and when to hide.</p>
<p>The stock market is not only a lie but the idea that the dow is a measure of prosperity is so laughable that it is tragic to SEE how many believe it!  When a company goes down like gm they just replace it with another, now how does that make the number any good!</p>
<p>Also the sub prime mortgage was supposedly how the banks lost money yet nobody can do simple math to realize that loaning money over 10% that you borrowed from the federal reserve at less than 1% means that you only have to get 30% to pay and you make lots of money!  Ask any loan shark!  Well 50% did pay so how did the banks lose anything not to mention pmi. </p>
<p>The answers are simple.  Vote and Vote some more.  Not blindly tea party but for people who will only do </p>
<p>two simple laws.</p>
<p>1.  The government makes the money and does not borrow from anyone!</p>
<p>2.  Our government does not allow any imports from countries that do not follow our minimum wage laws, labor laws, environmental laws, and litigation laws.</p>
<p>Why have someone besides the government print and control money, it is illegal under the constitution.</p>
<p>WHy have minimum wage laws and environmental laws and litigation laws if the corporations can just thumb there nose at them by driving over a border to Mexico or ship it from China and India.</p>
<p>But Americans are too stupid to stand up for this and too busy watching survivor and dancing with the stars to understand what a bunch of idiots we are and we are handing our children a bag of shit that our forefathers worked there asses off for and gave us if not a silver spoon than at least a pot to piss in and home to go to at night and now we let the banks take the pot and the house!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: GaryT</title>
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		<dc:creator>GaryT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 05:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello...  The Fed is OWNED by the same parties that own the big banks. Is it any wonder then that the Fed&#039;s policies serve these banks interest first and foremost.

Of course it goes far beyond that. These ultra wealthy parties pour huge amounts of money into the outright buying of the U.S. Government. I&#039;m talking Congress,the regulators and the President.

Obama is their most recent purchase. Like Bush (and Clinton before him) the U.S. prez is merely a tool for the elite.

Wake up America. You are the Frog slowly being boiled.  Revolt by withdrawing any business dealings with the major banks.
Don&#039;t even think about re-electing incumbents.
Dismiss the Dem/Repub major parties for they are hopelessly corrupted. DEMAND that the (privately owned) Federal Reserve be disenfranchised and renounced as the crooks that they are.

Heck, a hundred and fifty years ago President Andrew Jackson did just that by revoking the charter on the 2nd national bank of the U.S.
Unfortunately the bankers came back in 1913 and got their foot in the door a 3rd time. 
Same results as before though... a cornucopia of corruption.  END THE FED. It&#039;s the bankers evil tool</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello&#8230;  The Fed is OWNED by the same parties that own the big banks. Is it any wonder then that the Fed&#8217;s policies serve these banks interest first and foremost.</p>
<p>Of course it goes far beyond that. These ultra wealthy parties pour huge amounts of money into the outright buying of the U.S. Government. I&#8217;m talking Congress,the regulators and the President.</p>
<p>Obama is their most recent purchase. Like Bush (and Clinton before him) the U.S. prez is merely a tool for the elite.</p>
<p>Wake up America. You are the Frog slowly being boiled.  Revolt by withdrawing any business dealings with the major banks.<br />
Don&#8217;t even think about re-electing incumbents.<br />
Dismiss the Dem/Repub major parties for they are hopelessly corrupted. DEMAND that the (privately owned) Federal Reserve be disenfranchised and renounced as the crooks that they are.</p>
<p>Heck, a hundred and fifty years ago President Andrew Jackson did just that by revoking the charter on the 2nd national bank of the U.S.<br />
Unfortunately the bankers came back in 1913 and got their foot in the door a 3rd time.<br />
Same results as before though&#8230; a cornucopia of corruption.  END THE FED. It&#8217;s the bankers evil tool</p>
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