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Circle January 15th: 70 Nations Will Gather In Paris To Discuss The Creation Of A Palestinian State

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15-ball-public-domainOn January 15th, representatives from 70 different countries will gather in Paris, France for an unprecedented global conference.  The stated goal of this conference is to promote a “two-state solution” as the way that lasting peace will be brought to the Middle East.  In Israel, there is a tremendous amount of concern that whatever is agreed upon at this conference will immediately be used as the basis for a UN Security Council resolution that would permanently divide the land of Israel and create a Palestinian state.  But things would have to move very rapidly in order for that to happen, because Barack Obama’s time in the White House comes to an end on January 20th, and Donald Trump has already made it exceedingly clear that he would never support such a resolution.

The UN Security Council resolution that was passed on Friday was one of the most significant events that we have witnessed in decades.  Resolution 2334 made all Israeli settlements in the West Bank and in East Jerusalem illegal, it set the 1967 ceasefire lines as the border between the Israelis and the Palestinians, and it granted every single inch of East Jerusalem to the Palestinians.  But it stopped short of giving official UN Security Council recognition to a Palestinian state, and that is why this conference on January 15th is so important.

On Wednesday, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry will lay out a plan which many believe will serve as the blueprint for the upcoming conference in Paris.  This is something that I discussed yesterday.  Apparently Kerry has been working on this for quite some time, and according to the Times of Israel, Jewish officials are fearful that he may propose something drastic…

At a press briefing Tuesday, State Department spokesman Mark Toner confirmed Kerry’s plans for the speech, though he refused to detail whether the top US diplomat would use the opportunity to announce a new American initiative, which officials in Jerusalem fear he may.

Toner said the secretary holds the conviction that “it is his duty in his remaining weeks and days as secretary of state to lay out what he believes is a way towards a two-state solution” and that “it’s always important to keep the process moving forward.”

If Kerry’s plan is embraced by the conference in Paris, it is anticipated by many that it would serve as the basis for a UN Security Council resolution that would formally create a Palestinian state before Donald Trump is inaugurated on January 20th.  The following comes from the Guardian

The Israeli government is reportedly fearful that any guidelines agreed in Paris would be turned into another UN resolution before Trump’s inauguration, and it has ratcheted up its rhetoric, presenting itself as the victim of an international conspiracy.

A spokesman for Netanyahu claimed to have “ironclad evidence” that the Obama administration had plotted behind the scenes to promote the UN resolution. Israel has said it will present evidence against the Obama administration to the incoming Trump team.

If what an Egyptian newspaper is claiming is true, then there may very well be an international conspiracy at work against Israel.  According to a transcript published by the Al-Youm Al-Sabea newspaper, John Kerry and U.S. National Security Adviser Susan Rice met with Palestinian officials in early December and presented Kerry’s plan to them at that time…

In a meeting in early December with top Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat, US Secretary of State John Kerry told the Palestinians that the US was prepared to cooperate with the Palestinians at the Security council, Israel’s Channel 1 TV said, quoting the Egyptian Al-Youm Al-Sabea newspaper.

Also present at the meeting were US National Security Adviser Susan Rice, and Majed Faraj, director of the Palestinian Authority’s General Intelligence Service.

Kerry is quoted as saying that he could present his ideas for a final status solution if the Palestinians pledge they will support the proposed framework. The US officials advised the Palestinians to travel to Riyadh to present the plan to Saudi leaders.

The Obama administration is denying all of this of course.  But if it is true, then the betrayal of Israel by Obama is much deeper than any of us realized.

With less than a month to go in his presidency, Barack Obama has decided to launch an all-out attack on Israel.  Once Resolution 2334 passed and the uproar against it was limited, that emboldened the Obama administration to go for broke.

Now it looks like they actually could try to get a Palestinian state created before he leaves office on January 20th, and if that happens it will be absolutely catastrophic for America.  You see, the truth is that we have been warned for many years that our land will be divided after the land of Israel is officially divided into two states.  Many of us have been watching for the creation of a Palestinian state for a very long time, and now we may be right on the verge of it happening.

When Donald Trump takes office he would not be able to reverse the creation of a Palestinian state, but one thing that he could do would be to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem.

If that happens, the Palestinians are promising to throw a massive temper tantrum

When asked how the Palestinians would react if Trump carried out his promise to move the US embassy to Jerusalem, Erekat reportedly said the Palestine Liberation Organization would rescind its recognition of Israel and ask Arab states to expel their US envoys.

Erekat made precisely that threat in a December 19 conference call organized by the Wilson Center policy forum. He said he would immediately resign as the chief Palestinian negotiator, and that “the PLO will revoke its recognition of Israel” as well as all previously signed agreements with Israel. Furthermore, said Erekat, all American embassies in the Arab world would be forced to close — not necessarily because Arab leaderships would want to close them, but because the infuriated public in the Arab world would not “allow” for the embassies to continue to operate.

Ultimately, everything that is happening now is setting the stage for the biggest war in the Middle East that we have ever seen.

So instead of this “peace process” being the solution, it is actually going to cause the Middle East to explode in violence.

For a very long time I have been warning that the worst days of the Obama era were still in front of us, and we are currently watching that play out right in front of our eyes.  This betrayal of Israel is the worst thing that he has done during his entire time in the White House, and now America is greatly cursed as a result.

 
  • socalbeachdude

    Israeli Viciousness After Friday’s UN Vote – Stephen Lendman

    Every day is Kristallnacht for long-suffering Palestinians, brutalized mercilessly the way Hitler treated Jews.

    On Christmas eve, Israeli soldiers attacked a peaceful Santa Claus march with tear gas, rubber-coated steel bullets and beatings.

    The event was organized under the banner “Terrorism and Occupation are Two Sides of the Same Coin.” Participants demanded Israeli checkpoints be opened so Christians could celebrate the holiday unobstructed at Bethlehem’s Nativity Church in the Old City.

    On Sunday, Palestinian Detainees’ Committee head Issa Qaraqe said Palestinian political prisoner As’ad al-Wali, aged 70, died under circumstances remaining unclear.

    He was incarcerated for building a home on his own land without a near-impossible-to-get permit. Was her murdered by torture, neglect or other brutal treatment?He was prominently involved in activism against Israel’s illegal Golan occupation.

    On Christmas day, Israeli soldiers ransacked West Bank Palestinian homes, terrifying their occupants, traumatizing young children.

    They opened fire on Gaza farmers in their fields threatening no one. It’s a common practice, along with shooting Palestinian children for target practice and attacking fishermen at sea.

    Since October 2015, Israeli security forces murdered over 265 defenseless Palestinians, brutalizing, arresting and imprisoning hundreds more for political reasons alone.

    http://rense.com/general96/ISRvicious.htm#sthash.mvnF28vk.dpuf

  • socalbeachdude

    The State of Palestine

    The State of Palestine is a de jure sovereign state in the Middle East that is recognized by 136 UN members and since 2012 has a status of a non-member observer state in the United Nations – which amounts to a de facto, or implicit, recognition of statehood.

    The State of Palestine claims the West Bank bordering Israel and Jordan and Gaza Strip bordering Israel and Egypt with East Jerusalem as the designated capital.

    Most of the areas claimed by the State of Palestine have been occupied by Israel since 1967 in the aftermath of the Six-Day War. Its independence was declared on 15 November 1988 by the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) in Algiers as a government-in-exile.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Palestine

  • socalbeachdude

    The Balfour Declaration is what started all of the problems and bellicosity in Palestine back in the 1920s when Palestine was a colony ob the UK. That began the start of the minority population of Jewish people in Palestine pushing out the Arabs in Palestine who were more than two-thirds of the population of Palestine and owners of more than 92% of the land in Palestine.

    Balfour Declaration – Wikipedia

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

  • socalbeachdude
  • socalbeachdude
  • socalbeachdude

    Palestine has ALWAYS been occupied by both Arabs and Jews.

    • Joe Trevors

      Two signs of the end times: State of Israel + Destruction of Christianity. The 3rd sign is occurring these days in Europe & United States. The Muslim religion is being forced upon us by our new world order leaders such as Bush + Clinton + Obama + European leaders like Merkel. The 3rd sign of the End times is establishment of the Muslim religion by the Antichrist. Wow! Where is the Antichrist? The main enemy of the followers of Christ are the followers of the Antichrist. This is our true, end time struggle: between followers of Christ & the Antichrist. Are we not seeing being revealed before our very eyes in the U.S. as with Donald Trump? It is not really a political struggle but a spiritual struggle? You saw Trump like a lightning rod being attacked by both Bush & Obama & McCain & Clinton: both Democrats & Republicans.

      • Cynthia Ozbat

        How in the world would God raise up an arrogant boastful man to save a country in such rebellion against Him? I will agree that God had a hand in the election but not for the reasons most are hoping. God gave America an image of herself..a prideful, unrepentent person. God raises up kings and brings down kingdoms.

        • Joe Trevors

          Cynthia: thank you for your ideas about what I was trying to express. I think more people were revealing what they really think about D. Trump whether they like or dislike him. Remember Jesus who was treated the same way by the religious authorities in Jerusalem? It is the politicians in 2016 who are indignant against Trump for threatening the status quo? They say “Who is this fool for questioning our authority to have open borders for illegal immigration, Muslim terrorism & free trade agreements to send our companies to other nations?”

        • Guest

          Think King Cyrus. Same personality, different time period. God also used Nebukadnessar also. Now THAT guy had ego…

  • socalbeachdude

    Israel has no right whatsoever to exist on Palestinian lands that they are presently ILLEGALLY OCCUPYING.

    Israel has committed far more violations of UN laws than any other country in the world by a huge margin.

    Israel has attacked nearly all of its neighbors on multiple occasions without provocation since it became a country in 1948, but that is not true as to its peaceful neighbors who have never once attacked Israel.

    As an APARTHEID STATE, Israel SHOULD NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXIST IN ITS PRESENT FORM AT ALL and the UN should immediately address that issue in precisely the same manner it did years ago with SOUTH AFRICA.

    • A.S.

      Oh really? What about the Yom Kippur War? All its so called neighbors attacked at one time. What about the scuds from Sadam Hussein during the U.S.’s war? And if you think Israel is occupying land, I can say the same about the U.S. occupying Mexican land which became CA, NV, AZ, NM, TX. If you think Jews don’t belong in Palestine, then Americans don’t belong in those states. If you say we get to keep it because we won the war, the same goes for Israelis keeping the land because they won the wars, all of which the Arab states started. Learn history. Also, if they are so oppressed, why don’t they move to other Arab/Muslim countries? Because even with what they call oppression, they are still move free in Israel than any other country in the M.E. Stop repeating lies you hear in the media and come to Israel for yourself and see what they do. Israeli hospitals are full of terrorists that survived a suicide bombing and are treated ahead of IDF soldiers if their medical need is greater. You never hear about it because the media is anti-Israel and anti-Semitic.

      • Mike Smithy

        You make a very coherent and credible argument. P.S. I enjoyed your character as Mr. Edwards in “Little House on the Prairie”.

      • socalbeachdude

        Your characterization of Israel is as bogus as a $3 Euro and you should be totally ashamed of putting up such total obfuscation and outright lies.

      • Cynthia Ozbat

        As sad as it is to say this, there is a great arrogance that exists in America and one I fear will soon be brought done a few pegs.

      • FireHope

        Well said.

      • Dude, this person WANTS the Jews in America where we control the banks, eat baby in our Matzah and chow down on goy-blood soup.

    • Eddie

      Socalbeachdue, you presented the facts very well. Much better then I could have. I agree with you your thesis and hope that others can see past their own bias.

    • bc

      It clearly appears that you are getting all your facts from all other sources other than from where it really matters (God’s word=the bible). I suggest you check there. If you’re gonna reject that, let me know how that works out for you. We’ll see you at the judgement. Hope you’re on the right side.

      • socalbeachdude

        I am getting my facts from both history and current sources and am 100% correct as to the actual facts which I have clearly stated.

        • bc

          Keep on believing that and see where it gets you. You won’t like the results.

          • socalbeachdude

            I’d suggest you start dealing with actual facts as opposed to religious obsessions.

          • bc

            The fact is , you would rather believe a lie than the truth !! Lol

          • socalbeachdude

            Everything I have stated is 100% correct.

          • bc

            God’s word is as factual as you’re gonna find dude. Belief is God is not religion. Religion is man’s idea about God & how to get to heaven, such as Catholicism, with a bunch of man-made rules to make it into heaven. (which will not work). If you reject God, He will reject you. That won’t be in your favor. Be very careful where you get your facts.

          • socalbeachdude

            Which god?

          • bc

            You must be an idiot !

          • bc

            Are you serious ? You must be an idiot !

      • Sun Rise

        I read the website where he gets at least some of his material. It claims to expose propaganda, but it itself is propaganda. The owner of the blog thinks their work causes people to see “clearly”, but considering its viewpoint is strictly humanistic, they are still very much blind. One of the greatest tactic in war, is to convince your opponent you don’t exist.

        To be honest, I admire his sense of justice, but sadly, he is misguided.

        https medium dot com

        • Sun Rise

          This one especially:

          medium dot com deepconnections deep-connections-manifesto-f197c5b37497#.h54gnidl0

          • socalbeachdude

            I’ve never ever heard of that web site.

        • socalbeachdude

          Where do you come up with such dead wrong nonsense?

          • Sun Rise

            Your own posts, actually. You posted the deep connections website link on one of your posts. The second website is connected to the first website. Shall I find it for you and repost it?

          • socalbeachdude

            What are “deep connections” web sites?

    • LIZ THE SHIZ

      socalledbeachdude is an obvious paid troll who if you check his prior posts which supposedly supported Trump [ sarc] would not be taking these pro-Palistinian stands now, but at a penny per comment he’s got to make a living from his momma’s basement so he can support his pizza and video game addiction.

      • socalbeachdude

        So laughably false as to not merit a response.

      • Sun Rise

        You are right, he did. How about all the believers on this board (Michael, are you reading?) pray Yeshua/Jesus draws him, as no one can come to Abba unless the person is first drawn. Bless him with eyes to see and ears to hear and the willingness to make the necessary changes.

        We have been witnessing Zechariah 12 unfold, which will lead to Zechariah 14.

        Shalom.

    • Richard O. Mann

      Do you hate Jews that much?

      • socalbeachdude

        Where do you come up with that bizarre view? Do you hate LAWS? Israel is no different from any other country and must follow international laws and has no right to be bellicose and pugnacious towards its neighbors nor to be an apartheid state which is precisely what it has become.

        • Richard O. Mann

          That pretty much answered the question. Israel has tried go make peace with the Arabs since day one. And since day one, the Arabs have done everything they can to destroy Israel. This whole apartheid state crap is just that, crap. More negative propaganda against Israel. Go a head with your hate. You have been well programmed by the anti Israel Arabs/Muslims.

          • socalbeachdude

            Laughably and pathetically false.

    • K

      This “exchange” occurred when Hitler received Saudi Arabian ruler Ibn Saud’s special envoy, Khalid al-Hud al-Gargani.[7] Earlier in this meeting Hitler noted that one of the three reasons why Germany had warm sympathies for the Arabs was:
      … because we were jointly fighting the Jews. This led him to discuss Palestine and conditions there, and he then stated that he himself would not rest until the last Jew had left Germany. Kalid al Hud observed that the Prophet Mohammed … had acted the same way. He had driven the Jews out of Arabia ….[8] This is what you support, Because your pet arabs fought on the same side.

      • socalbeachdude

        The 1917 Balfour Declaration preceded World War II by a couple of decades and has nothing to do with your assertions.

        • K

          Still voting for yourself? The Balfour Declaration is yet another prejudicial law. The fact is you support the nazis. Remember you do not have to be German to be a nazi, many brits were as well. Why do you not admit the truth, you hate the jews, and you hate God as well.

          • socalbeachdude

            Huh? Do you really fail to comprehend that the Balfour Declaration was the entire legal basis for the present State of Israel? Really? Seriously?

          • K

            Do you know, that under British rule. They were just about forbidden firearms. If they had not at least smuggled in what they could. When they became a independent State. They would not have lasted 3 days. Since they were just about immediately attacked. It was all a setup. Most of those who setup the state of Israel. Had no intention of it surviving.Or do you think throwing seltzer bottles out of aircraft, at tanks. Was some kind of secret weapon?

          • socalbeachdude

            Absolutely false as to your “setup” assertions regarding the State of Israel.

      • LIZ THE SHIZ

        funny, the house of Saud is said to have a Jewish lineage

  • socalbeachdude

    The present situation of the Palestinian people is MOST CERTAINLY NOT OF THEIR OWN MAKING AND THEY HAVE BEEN UNDER SAVAGE ATTACK BY THE PEOPLE OF WHAT IS NOW ISRAEL FOR NEARLY THE PAST 100 YEARS SINCE 1917 WHEN THE BALFOUR DOCUMENT WAS CREATED BY ENGLAND FOR THE ROTHSCHILDS TO START A COUNTRY IN PALESTINE WHICH WAS CONTROLLED BY THE UK.

    Back in 1917, 92% of the land of Palestine was owned by Arab Palestinians and 8% was owned by Jewish folks, and most of the land owned by the Palestinians was ILLEGALLY SEIZED FROM THEM WHICH IS WHAT IS AT THE VERY HEART OF THE “PALESTINIAN PROBLEM.”

    • Joe Trevors

      I appreciate the insights you are sharing about the creation of the State of Israel. However, I would like to take a different perspective to classify the State of Israel as one of the biblical signs of the End Times. I know this opens a “can of worms” because almost everyone has a different interpretation of what will happen in the future. This is why Jesus told his followers to concentrate on the present (see Matthew 6, v34: “So do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will bring worries of it own. Today’s trouble is enough for today.”). Of course, this is easier said than done. We are all concerned about the future to some degree but we always return to the present time, don’t we?

      • sister soldier

        Well said. Prophecy is sweet in the mouth but it’s bitter in the belly.

        • GSOB

          That is a prophecy of coming judgment, you speak of.
          Not all prophecy is bitter.

      • Mike Smithy

        On this site you’re gonna see rightful indignation and opposition to the Jew as the money changer. For example, the creation and overwhelming control of the FED and other bank cartels is in their hands.

        The concern then inflates to a world-wide conspiracy perhaps driven in part by the Catholic church’s antisemitism where they cast about looking for a scapegoat for their loss of power at the hands of 16th century reformers.

        Nonetheless, ECB is great because we can have these ‘conversations’ without malice.

        • retired22

          I though you were mentioning the European Central Bank & this puzzled me!

          • Mike Smithy

            Sorry for the confusion, I was referring to the Economic Collapse Blog (ECB).

      • socalbeachdude
        • Right on, cant have those Jews being Jewish

          • GSOB

            Mark 15:13-14
            Who was shouting?
            Acts 13:27-28
            Matthew 27:22

        • Kerry will be gone in a few days and Jews will have a big party being Jewish in Jewish Israel

          • socalbeachdude

            The UN certainly will not be gone and Israel will have to learn to COMPLY with the RESOLUTIONS OF THE UN or face substantially adverse consequences.

          • You like the UN so much but only when they rant about Israel.
            PS: F the UN

          • socalbeachdude

            The United Nations (UN) is a great and good organization whose sole purpose is to assist with PEACE AND STABILITY among all nations.

          • The UN is no such source. The fact that you endorse them shows you’re totally unhinged and in the past

          • socalbeachdude

            The fact that you endorse lawlessness and warmongering speaks volumes about you in today’s world.

    • Paul Patriot

      Your reference to 1917 is irrelevant. God promised the Jews the land and promised their repopulation of their land in the last days.

      • Rebel

        God promised them that land in the Old Testament when the Jews were still God’s people. Since then they have rejected and crucified Jesus Christ the saviour and are reaping God’s jugements because of it.
        And they will keep getting those jugements until they say “…bless be He who comes in in the name of the Lord (Jesus)…”
        Read the book of Revelation and the prophecies of Daniel.
        It is incredible how some Christians are so deceived as to think that they are supposed to support a people such Jesus called “…of their father the devil…”
        Wake up!

        • socalbeachdude

          Nobody from 2,000+ years ago has any right to “promise” anyone any real estate.

          • Rebel

            You obviously did not understand what I wrote.

          • socalbeachdude

            Oh, I understood that codswallop perfectly.

          • Spectrum

            And I understood yours. You’re a fool.

          • socalbeachdude

            Hardly, but that sure does describe YOU.

          • Spectrum

            You’re saying that God has “no right” to promise Israel their land ??? Yeah that certainly makes you a fool.

            Who are you to question God’s decisions ?

          • RightwithGod

            I surely pray that your belief that Isreal does not have a right to exist, also extends to your belief that California should “calexit” the United States. We don’t want you, leave, take your graven images, burn in hell for you blasphemy.

          • socalbeachdude

            California is heaven on earth!

          • bc

            And we think you are thinking you’re gonna enjoy hell

          • California is Mexico. You Palestinian firsters DESTROYED Cali.

          • socalbeachdude

            False.

          • Bull crap.
            Cali is 28% Cauc.
            That means that you leftists put the third world in charge of Cali.
            Disgusting

          • socalbeachdude

            False once again.

          • socalbeachdude

            California is the largest of the 50 states of the United States by both population and by its economy.

          • Spectrum

            Is that so, oh wise one ? And of course you always know better than the Creator of the universe, don’t you ?

        • The Romans crucified Jesus.
          Crucifixion is not a Hebrew practice.
          Jesus was not generalizing as you do.

          • Cavendish

            Save your breath. Christianity is a cult. Christ is not the mashiach. Empty promises, no proof and wishful thinking. 😉

          • John Ashcraft

            It is nice to know that you will burn in the lake of fire and brimstone for eternity. A fool says there is no God and you are fooling yourself into eternal damnation.

          • watchmannonthewall

            The Bible was written to God’s own people.
            Therefore, when the writer of Proverbs says, “The fool has said in his heart, there is no God”, he is not speaking of an atheist, which is what many think, because his audience is one who SHOULD know God and His ways.
            For this reason the writer must be speaking about one who SHOULD know God and yet ACTS either as if God doesn’t exist or in a manner that is clearly ungodly!
            Who would this person be? Anyone who claims to know God and yet refuses to do what God has said those who know Him are supposed to do, as they supposedly represent Him by their lifestyle.

          • Rebel

            Saying that “the Romans killed Jesus” is like saying that the executioner is responsible for the dept of the condemned.
            The Pharisees (the ones Jesus said were “…of the devil their father…” Remember?) were the ones pulling the strings to get Him killed. Read your Bible.
            And most of the Jews still hate Jesus to this day with a demonic hatred.

          • Jesus took the Twelve aside and told them,
            “We are going up to Jerusalem, and everything that is written by the prophets about the Son of Man will be fulfilled.
            32 He will be delivered over to the Gentiles: They will mock him, insult him and spit on him; 33 t hey will flog him and kill him.
            Luke 18:32.

            18 No one takes my life from me. I give it up willingly. I have the power to give it up and the power to receive it back again, just as my Father commanded me to do.
            John 10:18

            “Most of the Jews”.

            This post is about Israel, isn’t it? Why are you off in Jew Jew land?

          • I see non Jewish unbelievers treat Jesus with the same type hatred.

            You really have no point, except you really hate the Jews the way the Jews hated Jesus: Making you no better than the people who you hate.
            Bravo, very good

          • PS: All 12 disciples/apostles were those pesky Jews.

          • shropster

            Jesus was a Rabi, well regarded enough to preach in the Temple.
            The leader of the Christian Church after the curxifiction was John the Just in Jerusalem, not Peter in Rome.

          • watchmannonthewall

            (James the Just- half brother of Yeshua)

          • JC Teecher

            Although the words disciple and apostle are sometimes used interchangeably, they mean different things. A disciple is a follower or student of someone. An apostle is someone who is sent out with a message or mission.
            As long as Jesus was the teacher, his twelve were considered Disciples, but after the crucifixion, they became Apostles.

            Just sayin’.

            Paul was a Benjamite, but referred to as a jew, because he lived in the region of Jerusalem, of Judea. He never taught Judaism, but Christianity by the blood and resurrection, of which the early jews/Orthodoxy, never accepted.

          • iris

            But he practiced Judaism, as he took a Nazarite vow to prove his orthodoxy. He thought and wrote as a Jew, and taught that one who was circumcised should not try to change the fact. He quoted OT verses almost exclusively, other than words he had heard which were passed down by eyewitnesses and what the Lord Himself shared with him. He stated that he lived as a Jew among Jews and as a Gentile among Gentiles, not hypocritically, but in order to better share the gospel with every person possible. If there ever was a Jew’s Jew, according to Paul himself, it was him, but he acknowledged that his practice and physical heritage were not what saved him, but his personal faith relationship with Yeshua as God come in the flesh.

          • iris

            If you had been the only person living after Adam and Eve, He would have had to die for your sins in order for you to be reconciled to God, and you would have to believe Him and His work and receive Him and His work which He did on the Tree. God became a human and died on purpose for us all, Jew and Gentile. He is still the King of Israel. Those who believe and receive Him are counted as righteous before God, because of Yeshua’s righteousness and the efficacy of that work on the Tree. That begs the statement; you and I and every person who ever lived, killed Jesus, because we have all sinned. The hallmark of a truly born again Christian is that they have God’s love in their hearts, love for Him who loved us first, that much, love for themselves and love for all others. We want everyone to have this personal relationship with Him, which will last for eternity. We are to hate sin and love the sinner, because even Christians sin sometimes. But we confess it to God and ask for help, knowing that the sin was forgiven 2000 years ago and that He is more than able to keep His promise to finish what He has started in us. Those who refuse such great grace and mercy, will be judged according to their works, which will not be good enough, because God’s standard is perfection. The King of Israel, Yeshua of Bethlehem, is advocate and mediator, and He loves Jews and Israel as He loves you.

          • Spectrum

            Absolutely.

          • watchmannonthewall

            Thank you!

          • watchmannonthewall

            Actually, if you read the pasage you are talking about in John 8 you will note the passage starts off by saying Jesus was speaking with the Jews who BELIEVED on Him. There is a message here! It is a prophetic message!

            If the same Jesus came back today and taught exactly what He taught then, the Christians today would crucify Him! He taught all throughout His earthy minisrty that those who follow Him must follow the Law of His Father in order to have eternal life.

            Most “believing” Christians today claim anyone who teaches the same thing Jesus taught is a heritic and has the devil in them, just like these believeing Jews! Sound familiar? There is a reason Solomon wrote that “there is nothing new under the sun. Whatever has been will be and whatever has been done will be done again”!

            Most of mankind seems to be incapable of learning from the past!

          • Zaphod Braden

            Lashon Hora (Hara) and Kol Nidre

            Research “LASHON HORA (HARA)” It is the Jewish speech code against speaking ill of others and it states that they must not lie to or speak ill of “Jews in good standing” but lying to GOYIM and herem-Jews (excommunicated) is okay. When you understand their morality/speech-code you will understand why there is no point in bothering to argue with them. As you see BALD-FACED LYING to GOYIM is “moral” in their eyes.

            KOL NIDRE
            “In the tribunal of heaven and the tribunal of earth, by the permission of God — blessed be He — and by the permission of this holy congregation, we hold it lawful to pray with the transgressors.”

        • Cavendish

          Christ is a fable. LOL and not even a good one. The bible is just a book written by some men, nothing more. Call your Christ forth so I might speak with him if he is real.

          • DW

            Oh, you’ll meet Him face to face soon enough. I highly doubt you’ll be spouting your blasphemous blather when you see Him. You’ll be too busy loading your pants in terror and awe. The Jesus/Yeshua you deny knew you from the foundations of the earth, and died a horrible death in YOUR place to pay for YOUR sins. Time is very short, my willfully ignorant friend–please repent and invite that same Jesus into your heart to be your Lord and Savior. He loves you beyond your wildest dreams.

          • Gave

            Jesus Christ is my Lord and My God.
            He is real and we speak to Him.
            If you do not believe in Him, He won’t hear you.
            Lucky you —- you will not be beheaded because of your disbelief. That’s who He is: God of Love and Forgiveness.
            Tread carefully, do not disbelieve the “other religion” lest you be beheaded or burned. Be careful, that deity commands its followers to kill disbelievers.

          • GSOB

            I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

          • watchmannonthewall

            LOL! So funny. Josephus, Philo, the Roman leaders, etc, all left writings about a person in line with that describing the biblical record of Jesus Christ. I’m not aware of anyone in the 1st or second century AD that questioned the historical existence of Jesus though many questioned whether the stories told of Him were true. There probably were some but most of those who are well known for questioning his existence lived 1600 + years later, a fact that should cause us to question their ability to think in a critical manner!
            There is more evidence for the historical existence of Jesus Christ than for just about any other person in history!

        • C.A.Martin

          It was the Pharisees/ religious leaders Christ was speaking to and about, not Jews in general. The context of His wording is quit clear. Christ was himself a Jew. If you believe not than explain Christs words in John 4:22- You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.

        • Zaphod Braden

          “rapture” is actually a vicarious form of SUICIDE. “rapture” is an extremely SELF-ABSORBED way of saying “I am SO perfect” and anyone I dislike will be LEFT BEHIND to suffer(feel bad because I am gone) but I will revel in heaven.
          One of the major problems America faces is a large population of religious fundamentalists who have become as fanatical in their own way as any Middle Eastern Ayatollah. At present, they are caught up in their own version of the myth of the end of the world, and hope that by working to bring it about, they’ll get to sit at the right hand of their diety and to hell with everyone else. No doubt fistfights will break out over who gets to sit closest, but that is a subject for another article.

        • Chris

          Anti- Jewish rhetoric spewed from your mouth, just like the early christian “church fathers.” Typical Adamic nature. I’ll say a special prayer to the Almighty for you.

        • watchmannonthewall

          Historically and biblically, it was the Gentile Romans who crucified Messiah. The Jews simply delivered him up. Both Jews and Gentiles are guilty of crucifying God in the flesh! It is ironic how many gentiles want to wash their hands just like Pilate and claim they had nothing to do with Messiah’s crucifixition! God made it so that is only possible for those who lie to themselves. Still, they are guilty!

          The crucifixition is foretold in the OT through the story of Joseph whose brothers were intending to kill him, but then he ended up being sold to the Egyptians as a slave. Do you realize the Egyptians are Gentiles?

          Jesus was also delivered up to the Gentiles by his bothers, and not only did the Gentiles kill Him but they then also turned around and adopted Him, just as Pharoah adopted Joseph by making him the 2nd highest ruler in Egypt. Gentiles have peached Him in one form or another for nearly 2,000 years. He was and is “The Bread Man”, just as Joseph was!

          The parallels between Joseph and Messiah are numerous and very evident. This is one reason Christians need to study the OT. They have no idea what scripture really teaches after throwing out the first 60% of the scriptures, that part from which all NT writers quote in order to PROVE their arguments. Once you remove the foundation you can teach whatever lies you like. The root word of Torah, yarah, actually means foundation and it also means “to hit the mark”!

          The Bereans weren’t studying the NT in order to see if what Paul taught was right! It didn’t exist! The only NT books that had been written when Paul went to Berea to preach were the books of James and Galatians. (Acts 17:1-13) He had just left Thessalonika, and 1 Thessalonians was only the 3rd book of the NT written and is generally thought to have been written about 51 AD. It was written some time after Paul went to Berea, likely in 50 or early 51AD.

        • The Remnant of Israel Romans 11

          I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew.

          17 If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18 do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.” 20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith.

          !*******Do not be arrogant, but tremble. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.********!

          22 Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness.

          !Otherwise, ******you also will be cut off.*******!

      • max gon

        Here we go with fairy tale of God again.

        • You cant prove he is ‘fairy tale’

          • max gon

            You cannot prove he is for real either.

          • Israel is proof God exists.

          • GSOB

            Genesis 1:1

            Genesis 1:26

            Genesis 4:25-26

          • Gay Veteran

            LOL

          • You know, Gaza is super friendly to gays, right?

          • Gay Veteran

            no they aren’t, but that doesn’t justify Israel stealing land bit by bit.
            if “god” is on your side then why don’t you take it ALL now?

          • Worry about America first and not the affairs of Israel/Gaza

          • Gay Veteran

            indeed, NO American tax dollars going to other countries

          • Well, finally.

          • Gay Veteran

            you haven’t been paying attention since you only read articles about Israel

          • Nope, I dont read articles about Israel all that much. I am American Iroquois. I put America, first, not palestine or Israel. That’s you, not me.
            I show up when I see a ‘dog is down’ and people come to kick the dog when it’s down: Like how ya’ all are dumping on Jews in Israel after the Communist/Muslim Obama’s giving Israel to its enemies.
            Totally demonic.

            I rarely even blogged on both of my blogs about Israel/palestinie, etc.
            You’re just projecting.

            Why?
            Because you’re a Jew hater and always have been.

          • Gay Veteran

            “…Because you’re a Jew hater and always have been.”

            Polly want a cracker?

          • I am American Iroquois. I put America, first, not palestine or Israel. That’s you, not me.

            I show up when I see a ‘dog is down’ and people come to kick the dog when it’s down: Like how ya’ all are dumping on Jews in Israel after the Communist/Muslim Obama’s giving Israel to its enemies.

          • socalbeachdude

            Not another Fauxcahontas!!!

          • Whatever.
            ‘Fake Jew, fake Native.’
            All you leftists have is garbage. The only fakes are you Commie slobs.

          • Gay Veteran

            “I am American Iroquois….”

            yawn

          • Gay Veteran

            “I am American Iroquois….”

            so I guess you would be ok with whites stealing some more Iroquois land

          • Cavendish

            Hey, hey I need proof you’re gay before you say you’re gay. LOL 😉

          • James Staten

            You are absolutely correct

          • GSOB

            And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.

          • Why are you directing this to me?

          • Cavendish

            No, Israel was built by hard working and caring people. When I see God pickup a hammer I will believe you. 😉

      • Steve Hansen

        So you think that it give the Jews right to kill people and steel their land they have been living on for generations? Just because it says so in a book the Jews think they understand and believe in?

        • no, the Jews are supposed to just die.

        • E Coot

          OK, now give the Native Americans their land back; a lot of them died and lost their land

        • John Ashcraft

          Satan comes to steal, kill, and destroy. Islam comes to steal, kill, and destroy. The Palestinian Arabs come to steal, kill, and destroy. ISIS comes to steal, kill, and destroy. Obama comes to steal, kill, and destroy. The Palestinian Arabs came from Iran/Iraq as the Philistines and the Philistines are known for stealing, killing, and destroying what is not theirs.
          They conquer by moving into the property and then saying it was theirs for 2000 years to begin with.

          • socalbeachdude

            ISIS / IS / ISIL is a creation of the US CIA, UK MI5/6, and the Israeli Mossad. Isn’t that obvious? Ever wonder why there have NEVER been any ISIS / IS / ISIL attacks inside of the State of Israel?

      • socalbeachdude

        The decisions made in 1917 with the Balfour Declaration is what is highly relevant which has led to the present mess with the State of Israel.

        The present situation of the Palestinian people is MOST CERTAINLY NOT OF THEIR OWN MAKING AND THEY HAVE BEEN UNDER SAVAGE ATTACK BY THE PEOPLE OF WHAT IS NOW ISRAEL FOR NEARLY THE PAST 100 YEARS SINCE 1917 WHEN THE BALFOUR DOCUMENT WAS CREATED BY ENGLAND FOR THE ROTHSCHILDS TO START A COUNTRY IN PALESTINE WHICH WAS CONTROLLED BY THE UK.

        Back in 1917, 92% of the land of Palestine was owned by Arab Palestinians and 8% was owned by Jewish folks, and most of the land owned by the Palestinians was ILLEGALLY SEIZED FROM THEM WHICH IS WHAT IS AT THE VERY HEART OF THE “PALESTINIAN PROBLEM.”

        The Balfour Declaration is what started all of the problems and bellicosity in Palestine back in the 1920s when Palestine was a colony ob the UK. That began the start of the minority population of Jewish people in Palestine pushing out the Arabs in Palestine who were more than two-thirds of the population of Palestine and owners of more than 92% of the land in Palestine.

        Balfour Declaration – Wikipedia

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

        • John Ashcraft

          The 12 tribes entered the land of Caanan in 1414 BCE and the tribe of Judah had Jerusalem up until the scattering so legally it was theirs to begin with and then the Arabs came in and stole it from them and God rerighted it in 1948 right on time for the Messiah to show up in 2017-2018 to make all the land of Caanan right again with the Mesianic Kingdom.
          You really need to read the Bible from Genesis to Malachi at least 10 times to get your history correct.

          • JC Teecher

            Add about 15 years to those dates, and I will be on board with the Messiah’s return.
            However; I would much rather see your dates come to fruition.

          • socalbeachdude

            Nope. You really need to read the Balfour Declaration from 1917 which is where all of the present issues started.

          • John Ashcraft

            The problems began in 634 when Islam began killing people.

          • John Ashcraft

            Between 1914 and 1922-over 2 million people were killed by your brothers the Islamics and you really think it was the Balfour Declaration which is found in Psalm 17 that was written 4000 years ago.

          • socalbeachdude

            There is no basis in fact whatsoever to support your false assertions.

          • John Ashcraft

            Truth becomes a lie and lies become truth. Look up Armenian genocide, Greek Genocide and Assyrian genocide.

            Psa 17:7 Shew thy marvellous lovingkindness, O thou that savest by thy right hand them which put their trust in thee from those that rise up against them.

            Psa 17:8 Keep me as the apple of the eye, hide me under the shadow of thy wings,

            Psa 17:9 From the wicked that oppress me, from my deadly enemies, who compass me about.

            Psa 17:10 They are inclosed in their own fat: with their mouth they speak proudly.

            Psa 17:11 They have now compassed us in our steps: they have set their eyes bowing down to the earth;

            Psa 17:12 Like as a lion that is greedy of his prey (Islam and the Battle of Jerusalem 1917), and as it were a young lion lurking in secret places.

            Psa 17:13 Arise, O LORD, disappoint him, cast him down: deliver my soul from the wicked, which is thy sword:

            There is a war going on between the good and the evil.

            Psa 17:14 From men which are thy hand, O LORD, from men of the world, which have their portion in this life, and whose belly thou fillest with thy hid treasure: they are full of children, and leave the rest of their substance to their babes.

            Psalms is 19 books from Genesis an 47 books from Revelation in the Bible. Hint: 1947. So look at Psalm 47 = 1947. Psalms 48= 1948; Psalm 67 = 1967. Psalms 114-118 = 2014-2018.

            Psalms 17 is about 1917. 1917 CE Sabbath year (Shmita שמיטה‎) Balfour Declaration; Balfour Treaty (Land Restored) 2 November 1917; Spanish
            Flue Pandemic; British Great Britain recognized the rights of the Jewish people to establish a “national home. Third Aliya, mainly from Russia. 100 years to 2017.
            November 2, 1917 has a connection to the flood in Genesis. The Flood in Genesis began in November between the first and the fifth.

          • John Ashcraft

            1910 CE Sabbath year (Shmita שמיטה‎) Return of Halley’s
            Comet- which often appears throughout history four years before wars. The earth
            actually passed through the gaseous tail of the comet.

            1914
            CE WW I July 28 (August 1, ninth of Av),
            1914 – November 11, 1918. Jewish Year 5674. 5674= Numbers in the Hebrew
            Alphabet and means “Tremble”.

            1917
            CE Sabbath year (Shmita שמיטה‎) Balfour Declaration; Balfour Treaty (Land Restored)
            2 November 1917; Spanish
            Flue Pandemic; British Great Britain recognized the rights of
            the Jewish people to establish a “national home. Third Aliya, mainly from
            Russia. 100 years to 2017.

            1918 Flu Pandemic killed 75 Million

            1920 Israel. Histadrut (General
            Federation of Labor) and Haganah (Jewish defense organization) founded. Vaad
            Leumi (National Council) set up by Jewish community (Yishuv) to conduct its
            affairs. Treaty of Severes (spelling August 10, 1920 Persia/Greece—Daniel 10).
            League of Nations created.

            5900
            1921 CE 118th Jubilee (yovel יובל)
            Israel. First moshav (cooperative village), Nahalal, founded.

            1922 CE Britain granted Mandate for
            Palestine (Land of Israel) by League of Nations; Transjordan set up
            on three-fourths of the area, leaving one fourth for the Jewish national home.
            Jewish Agency representing Jewish community vis-a-vis Mandate authorities set
            up.

            1923 CE Ottoman Empire dissolves; Turkey
            founded

          • watchmannonthewall

            Jesus is not coming in 2017-18.

          • John Ashcraft

            What do these years have in common?
            3983 BCE-6000 years =2017. Abraham’s birth 1947 BCE-2017 years = 70 CE (Matthew 24:1-2; Destruction of the Temple)+1947 years = 2017. 1947 Proclamation of Israel = 70 years (Psalm 90:10; Psalm 47) = 2017. Battle of Jerusalem 1917 (Psalm 17) +100 years (2 Jubilees) = 2017. 1948 Israel became a nation in 1948 one to two days prior to Pentecost (Matt 24:32; Psalm 48; Psalm 90:10) +70 years = 2017 (Psalm 117). 1967 6th day war (Psalm 67) + 50 years (one Jubilee) = 2017. Woman clothed with the Sun in 2017 (Rev 12:1) on the Day of Trumpet or September 23rd. Giza Pyramid lineup of 2017 on the Day of Trumpet. Judah ben Samuel Prophecy. 2017 minus generations 38, 40, 50, 70, 80, 100, and 120 line up with significant events with Israel.. 2017 is the 120th Jubiee (Gen 6:3); the 50th Jubilee; the 40 Jubilee since the Messiah; and the 70th Jubilee (1414 BCE). The Creation of the earth was maybe in 4001 BCE which makes the earth 6033 years old. If you belive that He is not due until 15 years from now that puts the earth to 6058 years old and 6067 is the 121 Jubilee.

          • watchmannonthewall

            You have put together an impressive array of information to support your hypothesis. I have looked at many of the things listed and a few years ago thought 2017 was also the most likely period of time for His return, though I never proclaimed this. When evidence indicates we are wrong can we admit it, learn form it, and move on?

            Not only are there still a number of pieces of information that don’t line up with 2017, but it seems self evident we are not yet in the Great Tribulation, which lasts 3.5 years, and the anti-christ hasn’t yet appeared and all of the nations of the world are not going to accept him under the circumstances that currently exist today.

            Additionally, the two witnesses have not appeared, and the altar that must be shut down, the sign Daniel wrote of and Jesus confirmed, hasn’t yet happened. When it does we still have 3.5 years to go. That means the earliest He can return, assuming the altar is built, the sacrifices commence and then it is shut down by THIS coming Passover is the Feast of Trumpets in 2020.

            There is still a very small possibility of this occuring. I prefer to use scripture to discern prophetic timelines rather than listening to the teachings, usually error filled, of men because theyonly understand their favorite passages of scripture and ignore the rest. Not one timeline men have come up with has occurred yet and many have lost their followings, as it should be!

            I understand Ussher calculated the beginning of the world as 4004 BC. Using scripture I have calculated it as approximately 3883 BC. Note the term “approximately”. This date ties in with research presented 2 years ago by Tim Mahoney (I believe this is his name) who did a great deal of academic, archeological, and on-site research which resulted in the movie “Patterns of Evidence”. I finished my own research the day I learned of his movie.

            The movie presented evidence the Exodus occurred about 1490 BC rather than the more commonly accepted 1290 BC timeframe for which there is no evidence, one critical reason why so many insist it never occurred. They are looking in the wrong time period. My Biblical calculations indicated this event happened about 1495 BC.

            I try to be very careful about about proclaiming when and what things are going to happen since leading God’s people into error is a very serious matter for which He will hold me accountable.

            Fact is, speculation is rampant today and there is much that still hasn’t been revealed. He will reveal it when He deems it is the proper time. Our responsibility is to learn to walk daily in a righteous manner no matter what the circumstances, so that we properly represent Him to the nations and those around us.

          • John Ashcraft

            According to 9Nania, the tribulation ended on December 31, 2016 and the Great Tribulation begins on January 1 and goes to 2020. Her End of sins is 2024. According to Psalm 118:5, it points back to Day of Trumpet, 2017; Psalms 118:10 refers to Ezekiel 38-39 War which is also known as the War of Armageddon in 2018. Psalms 118:15 tabernacles refers to Feast of Tabernacles which begins 5 days after Day of Atonement with Armagedon.
            If you believe Ezekiel 38-39 occurs in 2024, why are prophecy people talking about it now as if it might occur this year.
            I just read what you people say and post it and you get the credit for it even if it is wrong and I agree with what you say.

          • watchmannonthewall

            “I just read what you people say and post it and you get the credit for it even if it is wrong and I agree with what you say.”

            Not sure what you are talking about. I said I don’t expect the return of Messiah until sometime into the early 2030’s. Jesus was apparently crucified about 29-33AD. If we add 2,000 years, two days, we come up with 2029-2033 CE.

            “Come, let us return to the LORD. For He has torn us, but He will heal us; He has wounded us, but He will bandage us. He will revive us after two days; He will raise us up on the third day that we may live before Him.” (Hosea 6:1-2)

          • John Ashcraft

            Since you believe Jesus is not due until 2029-2033, then read Psalms 129-133 and tell me if they say the same thing as Psalm 117 and 118. Psalm 129=2029, Psalm 130=2030, Psalm 131=2031, Psalms 122=2032, and Psalms 133= 2033. Psalms 17 =1917 and Battle of Jerusalem in 1917. Psalms 47 and 48 = 1947 and 1948 when Israel became a nation. Psals 67=1967 and the 6th Day War. Psalms 117 and 118 = 2017 and 2018. Tsk commentary for Psalms 117 has deliverance from Babylon. Deliverance means Jubilee, Freedom, Liberty as in Isa 61:1-2 = Lev. 25:9-10, 20-23. Psalms 118 has the Day of Trumpet (Liberty/rapture/resurrection/gathering) in Psalms 117. Psalms 118:10 has the Ezekiel 38-39 War also known as the War of Armageddon on the Day of Atonement; Psalms 118:15 has the word “tabernacles” which refers to the Messianic Kingdom.
            Can you show me where tabernacles is in Psalms 129-133 is?
            Psalms 118:15 also has a tie to Revelation 11:15.

          • watchmannonthewall

            Please forgive me for not being all that interested in “proving” dates. I have seen a lot of people’s prophesies come and go in the 50+ years of being a Christian and not one of them has come true yet. Those who have made such claims have brought a lot of reproach on the King due to their errors!

            I prefer to spend my time stating that Jesus (Yeshua) said His followers have to keep His Father’s commandment to enter into eternal life. (Luke 10:25-28, John 12:46-50, 14:15, 1 Cor. 7:19, 1 John 2:3-6)

            When I stand before Him to give an account, He will not be asking me if I had the date right for His return.

            On the other hand, if I went out and taught His people He said something He did not say, I have taken His name in vain and made Him out to be a liar. I have no idea who 9Nania is and therefore the fact that person said the tribulation ended in 2016 means nothing to me.

          • John Ashcraft

            I am glad that you Love God so much that you do not have idols around your house, that you do not celebrate Christmas and Easter, that you keep all the Sabbaths, and that you keep all the 616 laws of the Tanakh (Old Testament) which include all ten commandments and the 1050 laws of the New Testament. Did you know that one of those is watch and pray and await my waiting for the second coming. Await My Return (Matthew 24:42–44);
            Watch and Pray (Matthew 26:41). Did you know those who watch get a crown for watching and praying to be count worthy to be raptured on the Day of Trumpet.
            Did you know that 90 percent of the Church will be Left Behind to go through the Trumpet and Bowl Judgments.

          • watchmannonthewall

            Yes!

          • John Ashcraft

            I am Jewish and God appointed me to watch for Jesus Return by giving me fulfilled prophecies for my life since 1967 (6th Day War and a Year of Jubilee). I have had over 40 since 1967 that have been fulfilled for me and the people around me in the Albuquerque, NM area and the next one He gave me was 3 years ago and it is a 6.0 to 10.0 in the Albuquerque area to occur in 2017. It is already 1/3rd fulfilled but according to you, this will be in 2033. I die in 2018 around Passover if Psalm 117=2017 and Psalm 118 = 2018 but if you say Yeshua does not come until 2033, that places me to be 93 years old. However, I saw myself in a mirror in a Fema Camp and I was only 60 years old and wearing a orange jumpsuit.
            Facebook: John Ashcraft, Albuquerque, NM John’s Timeline.

          • watchmannonthewall

            Thank you.
            I always like to have two witnesses to future events as Elohim’s Word says that facts are established by such. It is interesting that Pharaoh’s, Joseph’s, the cupbearer, and butler all had dreams for which a second dream confirming the first was given.
            If “the Church” were to implement just this one test before teaching its doctrine, they would have a much more difficult time getting into false doctrine!

          • John Ashcraft

            Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years/Jubilees.
            2017-6000 years= 3983 and if the earth was created in 4001 BCE or 4004 BCE then that puts the earth to 6018 years to 6021 years which keeps it in the 120th Jubilee timeframe since 50 years is a Jubilee.
            6033 puts the earth into the 121 Jubilee year. This does not add up to 120 years as stated in Genesis 6:3.
            Also you have the plan from the elite to bring the population of the earth from 7.4 Billion down to 500 million by 2025 (end of the 120th Jubilee timeframe).
            2 Billion of these are Jews and Christians. So that means that there will be 5 million Jews and Christians left by 2025 which means that the entire globe of jews and Christians will be in Israel by then. There are 6 million Jews in Israel now.

      • John Ashcraft

        Battle of Jerusalem 1917+100 years (2 Jubilees) = 2017/5777 Jubilee year.

      • Zaphod Braden

        WHAT god? in a book THEY wrote? How f—ing STUPID are you?

      • Zaphod Braden

        The “rapture” Prophets for PROFIT are ANTI-Christ DEATH CULTISTS. God/Jesus put you in this LIFE to learn “soul lessons”, to increase your consciousness to the point of Redemption. Hagee and his Ilk REJECT the LIFE God gave you, and dangle a “shortcut” in front of people, just as SATAN dangled Temptation in front of Jesus. Do not follow the ANTI-Christ lies of FALSE prophets. There will be ONE Judgement Day, and NO ONE is going to “bypass” it by being “raptured”, that is a lie from Satan and his television IMPS. Their “shortcut” of cheating God’s lessons does NOT lead to Heaven, any more than cheating on school work teaches you the subject. Hagee, Robertson, the whole group, do NOT believe in anything except the MONEY they collect for leading their Flocks astray. From the Hagee church on down to Pat Robertson, it’s all ANTI-Christ. I don’t believe their savior would’ve approved of fat bank accounts & massive multi million dollar buildings. Christian institutions today represent the most perverse translation of Christianity

    • Horiboyable .

      Take your MEDS fake news man.

      • retired22

        Maybe we can get him deported back the land of sahib?

    • David Wheeler

      You are spot on, my brother

    • CASTIEL

      Men….if we think like that way……in 1099 in the Cruzade wars…….they killed almost every muslim and jew living in that land…….originating the Kingdom of Jerusalem that lasted unitl 1287…..when was recaptured by muslims…..in those two centuries those lands were controlled only by Christians…..There always will be war in that land….its where two religions borned……I dont appreciate jews……but muslims most of them are just animals…..so in my opinion they just can kill eachother until anyone is left of them….

      • socalbeachdude

        People of the Muslim faith are not “animals” at all and your express hated for other religions is sad.

        • CASTIEL

          I just hate stupidity…….. but you are the person that said : Israel should be flattened like a parking lot for camels…..and stop upvoting yourself all the time….thats stupid……So in your opinion you defend that Jerusalem should be returned to Islam? So they can blown up ancient monuments like they did in Syria?????…people who make little girls with 9 years get married……..who behead boys…..who blowns up everything they see??? They are not animals???? You think these people have common sense???? Jews existed in that land before the Islam even before Christianity….SO WHY YOU DEFEND ANIMALS?…..they should be terminated like rats…….not all of them of course…maybe 85 %

          • socalbeachdude

            I never made any such assertion at all that “Israel should be flattened.” You apparently have a reading comprehension problem.

          • CASTIEL

            And you are smoking too much weed……..

          • socalbeachdude

            Absolutely false.

          • Sun Rise

            You mean when he said this: “Nope. Just a brief skirmish after Israel gets flattened into an empty parking lot for camels!!! The bellicose and arrogant State of Israel needs to learn to behave in a civil manner with their neighbors.”, posted five days ago, and upvoted himself? He also mentioned something about Tel Aviv being flattened, too. Mr. Castiel, this man can not be trusted. He believes his lies, and the people he listens to have an agenda that obviously fit his worldview.

            A person who is given enough time to talk, will eventually reveal himself. Which he has.

            Have a great day.

          • Sun Rise

            You said Tel Aviv should be flattened… In threatening Tel Aviv, you threaten Israel. If an enemy threatens an American city, it threatens the entire country.

          • socalbeachdude

            Absolutely false.

          • Sun Rise

            Here is your own post:

            “There is no “big war” approaching and if Israel attempts any unilateral bellicosity then Tel Aviv will be flattened into a sea of glass and will exist only as a huge parking lot.”

          • socalbeachdude

            So what? What I stated is SIMPLY A MATTER OF FACT and totally proves that your assertion is blatantly false.

        • Muslims are not animals at all. I told this to a German girl recently whose cousin was gang-raped in Stuttgart

          • Gay Veteran

            yeah, let’s cry crocodile tears for the poor Europeans. They supported America’s wars in the Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, etc., and now they’re paying the price

          • Hey, you can always leave and go to Gaza

          • Gay Veteran

            why would I go to the apartheid state’s open air prison?

          • You mean where they are fishing?

        • Sun Rise

          Here is something we can agree on. Muslims are people. People who are engraved by a horrible ideology that teaches them to to teach their kids from little that it is great to grow up to offer themselves in the name of Allah. Their women and children are used as human shields, oppressed, beaten, raped and murdered. Their men leave them abandoned in the midst of war, only for them to be dragged across oceans in the most horrible and ghastly ways possible. They make sure their dead children are splashed all over the world so the nations will feel sorry for them. Just so that they can perform taqiyyah (I would suggest you learn a little more about Islam before you defend it).

          Mind you, the host Western nations made a deal with the Arab nations to end the oil crisis, wonder I’d the piper had started plying his flute?. Oh, and those same Western nations, refused to take in refugees during WWII.

          What can I say, irony at its best….

          • Sun Rise

            Sorry, enslaved, not engraved.

    • LIZ THE SHIZ

      socalledbeachdude, snodtblossom, MDB and other fake paid troll names are all the same loser who constantly contradicts itself for a penny a post

      • socalbeachdude

        Laughably false.

        • LIZ THE SHIZ

          the fact that isn’t laughably false is that this site has probably only 10-15 real commenters and the rest are paid trolls put there to generate ad click revenues

          • socalbeachdude

            So, to you, anyone like myself who expresses the ACTUAL FACTS and realities in the Middle East is a “troll.” Really? Seriously?

      • James Staten

        Liz, I knew there was a reason I liked you, besides your warped sense of humor!!! chuckle, chuckle

    • Steve Hansen

      You got it right! The Jewish people has for the most part no right to be there at all. So this might be one of the very few things O’Bomber got right…!

      • So, open your doors in USA to the Israeli Jews and let them control the banks as you accuse.

    • codemonkey

      USE MORE CAPS LOCK! MORE COWBELL! MOAR!! MOAR!!!!!

      • Orange Jean

        That’s pretty funny (Moar, Moar). But shouldn’t it be spelled “Moor! Moor!)??

    • Move to Gaza and be an activist there

      • socalbeachdude

        ISRAEL WAS NOT IN ANY WAY “DEFENDING ITSELF” AS TO GAZA BUT RATHER ISRAEL IS ENGAGING IN A BARBARIC MURDER SPREE AGAINST INNOCENT PEOPLE IN GAZA.

        Israel Hits UN Shelters In Gaza With Full Foreknowledge

        http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/08/04/373999/israel-knows-about-un-shelters-it-hits/

        Israeli official calls for concentration camps in Gaza and ‘the conquest of the entire Gaza Strip, and annihilation of all fighting forces and their supporters’

        Moshe Feiglin, Deputy Speaker of the Israeli Knesset and member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s ruling Likud Party, posted the inflammatory message on his Facebook page.

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2715466/Israeli-official-calls-concentration-camps-Gaza-conquest-entire-Gaza-Strip-annihilation-fighting-forces-supporters.html

        • Move to Gaza

          • Sun Rise

            Did you hear that….? I I think those are crickets chirping….

        • John Ashcraft

          Yes but Gaza attacked Israel first. If you as an Islamic butcher try to come and kill me, then I have the right to defend myself and my family and behead your head and kill every one by the sword.
          So if you kill by the sword, then you will die by the sword and hopefully you will die by your own sword.

          • socalbeachdude

            Gaza most certainly did NOT attack Israel first at all in that hideous mess which was UNILATERALLY CAUSED BY ISRAEL.

            Who started this latest skirmish?

            Isn’t the answer ISRAEL who started unilaterally bombing Gaza?

            Isn’t that exactly what Israel is continuing to do today?

            Aren’t more than 120 people now dead because of Israel’s bellicosity?

            The terrorists are not the people in Gaza.

            The terrorists are the government of Israel.

            The people of Gaza were only attempting to defend themselves from the unilateral bombing attack on them initiated by Israel.

            The terrorist tactics were all coming from ISRAEL which is the party that started the current UNILATERAL BOMBING OF GAZA against which the people of Gaza are attempting to defend themselves.

            The people of what is now Israel have been TERRORIZING THE PALESTINIANS ever since the Balfour Declaration in 1917.

          • John Ashcraft

            Gaza

            gā´za (עזּה, ‛azzāh, “strong”; Septuagint Γάζα, Gáza; Arabic Ghazzeh): One of the five chief towns of Philistia and probably the oldest, situated near the coast in lat. 31 degrees 30´ and about 40 miles South of Jaffa.

            The earliest notices of Gaza are found in the records of Egypt. Thothmes III refers to it in the account of his expedition to Syria in 1479 bc, and it occurs again in the records of the expedition of Seti I in 1313 bc (Breasted, History of Egypt, 285, 409). It occurs also in the early catalogue of cities and tribes inhabiting Canaan in the earliest times (Gen_10:19)
            (2504 BCE).

            Joshua reached it in his conquests but did not take it (Jos_10:41; Jos_11:22). Judah captured it (Jdg_1:18) but did not hold it long, for we find it in the hands of the Philistines in the days of Samson, whose exploits have rendered it noteworthy (Jos_16:1-3, 11, 30).
            Hezekiah defeated and pursued the Philistines to Gaza, but does not seem to have captured it. It was taken by Sargon in 720 bc, in his war with Egypt, since Khanun, the king of Gaza, joined the Egyptians and was captured at the battle of Raphia (Rawlinson, Ancient Monarchies, II, 142). It was probably destroyed (see Amo_1:7). It was certainly dismantled by Alexander the Great in 332, when it dared to resist him.

          • John Ashcraft

            Pompey restored the freedom of Gaza (ibid., XIV, iv, 4), and Gabinius rebuilt it in 57 bc (ibid., XIV, v, 3).
            In the 2nd and 3rd centuries ad, it became a center of Greek commerce and culture, and pagan influence was strong. It fell into the hands of the Arabs in 634 ad, and became and has remained a Moslem city since the days of Saladin, who recovered it from the Crusaders in 1187

            . Sorry Islamic that you are but Gaza was not a part of Islam until 634 CE but Gaza has been present since 2504 BCE. Islam was created around the 600 hundreds CE.
            But Gaza in 2017-2018 will get wiped off the map for good by God and not by your Allah/Satan.

          • socalbeachdude

            Israel has committed GROSS WAR CRIMES and has no right whatsoever to be engaging in a MURDER SPREE AGAINST THE INNOCENT PEOPLE OF THE GAZA. Israel has now murdered more than 500 people in Gaza over the past 10 days and destroyed vast amounts of Gaza leaving more than 50,000 people without homes or possessions.

            The WORLD IS NOW CONDEMNING ISRAEL FOR ITS WAR CRIMES and Israel has lost any and all moral credibility whatsoever at this stage.

          • John Ashcraft

            The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call
            Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite
            graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever
            they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called ‘hypocrites’
            and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.

          • John Ashcraft

            Far from being mere history or theological construct, the violent verses of the Quran have played a key role in very real massacre and genocide. This includes the brutal slaughter of tens of millions of Hindus for five centuries beginning around 1000 AD with Mahmud of Ghazni’s bloody conquest. Both he and the later Tamerlane (Islam’s Genghis Khan) slaughtered an untold number merely for defending their temples from destruction. Buddhism was very nearly wiped off the Indian subcontinent. Judaism and Christianity met the same fate (albeit more slowly) in areas conquered by Muslim armies, including the Middle East, North Africa and parts of Europe, including today’s Turkey. Zoroastrianism, the
            ancient religion of a proud Persian people is despised by Muslims and barely survives in modern Iran.

          • socalbeachdude

            False.

          • socalbeachdude

            The Koran is VIRTUALLY THE SAME as the Jewish / Christian Bible in nearly every respect.

          • John Ashcraft

            Since your prophet could not read or write, the Koran was written by a Catholic Priest who wrote it under duress from the butcher, thief and murderer known as Mohammad and the priest to pieces of it (mostly 1/4 or /12 phrases out of what he could find to put it together making up words to change the real facts so idiots like you would believe it to be the real truth. It is made up of about 1000 lies. As a matter of a fact, the priest expected people to believe it to be a real joke on idiots like you.

          • socalbeachdude

            Mohammad is certainly not my prophet but was a great and inspirational man who greatly influenced the course of the Islamic religion which is in many ways nearly identical to the Christian religion and the Koran is nearly identical to the Christian bible.

          • John Ashcraft

            More lies from the liar who believes he is rightand all others are wrong. Your lies of he Koran is pathetic. You bore me to death with your lies.

          • socalbeachdude

            Have you ever read the Koran?

          • John Ashcraft

            “When it is said to them, `Believe in what God has sent down,’ they say, `We believe in what was sent down to us (the Torah)’: yet they (Islam) reject all besides, even if it be truth attesting to (the truth of) what IS WITH THEM (the Torah)…” Koran 2:91

          • John Ashcraft

            The first command in the Bible is love and the first command in the Koran is kill.

          • socalbeachdude

            False.

          • John Ashcraft

            bible First command is Love. God loved us so He created the Universe and he planets. Then comes Love God and love others by way of the Ten commandments. Then comes more love by God by sacrificing His son on the Cross to save mankind from going to the lake of fire and brimstone for eternity.

            Joh 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

            Joh 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

            Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

            Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

            Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

          • John Ashcraft

            mohammad in one of his murderous conquests after killing the husband of one of his 100’s of wives fell in deep like for the Catholic woman who belonged to the illuminati. It was through her that the Koran came about and Islam was created. Islam was created to kill the Christians and Jews of its time and so now because of Islam, around 200 million people have been killed in horrendous ways murderer socal killer dude that you are.

          • socalbeachdude

            That is quite a unique fantasy description of the Prophet Mohammad!!!

          • John Ashcraft

            Muhammad was a military leader, laying siege to towns, massacring the men, raping their women, enslaving their children, and taking the property of others as his own.
            On several occasions he rejected offers of surrender from the besieged
            inhabitants and even butchered captives. He actually inspired his followers to battle when they did not feel it was right to fight, promising them slaves and booty if they did and threatening them with Hell if they did not. Muhammad allowed his men to rape traumatized women captured in battle, usually on the very day their husbands and family members were slaughtered.

          • John Ashcraft

            It is important to emphasize that, for the most part, Muslim armies waged
            aggressive campaigns, and the religion’s most dramatic military conquests were made by the actual companions of Muhammad in the decades following his death.
            The early Islamic principle of warfare was that the civilian population of a
            town was to be destroyed (ie. men executed, women and children taken as slaves) if they defended themselves. Although modern apologists often claim that
            Muslims are only supposed to attack in self-defense, this is an oxymoron that is flatly contradicted by the accounts of Islamic historians and others that go back to the time of Muhammad.

          • JC Teecher

            There is so much brutality done by the Mohammedans, that is covered up and not reported or sealed up from history books.

            Back in the years of the Ottoman rule, the Mohammedans had many ships and used them to pirate sail up and down the Eastern shores of Europe, taking ships at will. sometimes they killed all crew and passengers and stole all that was aboard.

            They had low keel boats that they sailed out of Morocco, and into low water inlets and rivers to pillage the villages of the Europeans that lived near the waterways, killing all the men of a certain age and then taking the women and children, plus young males, as slaves. Most were used as sex slaves.

            There is reports in history around the time of the migrations to the New World/America, whereby they captured and pirate-ized many English and Spanish vessels that were headed to the settlements of English and Spanish Jews, across the Atlantic, to re-supply them. Many, many of those ships never made it and people starved to death.

            History books want us to believe that the weather or abandonment from European Monarchies, was the reason.

          • socalbeachdude

            No, but there are endless examples of the brutality inflicted in the Middle East and the people there by the pugnacious and bellicose State of Israel.

          • John Ashcraft

            Consider the example of the Qurayza Jews, who were completely obliterated only five years after Muhammad arrived in Medina. Their leader opted to stay neutral when
            their town was besieged by a Meccan army that was sent to take revenge for
            Muhammad’s deadly caravan raids. The tribe killed no one from either side and even surrendered peacefully to Muhammad after the Meccans had been turned back. Yet the prophet of Islam had every male member of the Qurayza beheaded, and every
            woman and child enslaved, even raping one of the captives himself (what Muslim apologists might refer to as “same day marriage”).

          • John Ashcraft

            Although scholars like Ibn Khaldun, one of Islam’s most respected philosophers, understood that “the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the Muslim mission and (the obligation to) convert everybody to Islam either by
            persuasion or by force”, many other Muslims are either unaware or willfully
            ignorant of the Quran’s near absence of verses that preach universal
            non-violence. Their understanding of Islam comes from what they are taught by others. In the West, it is typical for believers to think that their religion must be like Christianity – preaching the New Testament virtues of peace, love, and tolerance – because Muslims are taught that Islam is supposed to be superior in every way. They are somewhat surprised and embarrassed to learn
            that the evidence of the Quran and the bloody history of Islam are very much in contradiction to this.

          • socalbeachdude

            What utter nonsense.

          • John Ashcraft

            That utter nonsense came from your own people muder boy and rapist that you are.

          • socalbeachdude

            I only advocate for PEACE and the RULE OF LAW, unless you who spews things that are in the realm of criminality.

          • socalbeachdude

            Israel has no right whatsoever to exist on Palestinian lands that they are presently ILLEGALLY OCCUPYING.

            Israel has committed far more violations of UN laws than any other country in the world by a huge margin.

            Israel has attacked nearly all of its neighbors on multiple occasions without provocation since it became a country in 1948, but that is not true as to its peaceful neighbors who have never once attacked Israel.

            As an APARTHEID STATE, Israel SHOULD NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXIST IN ITS PRESENT FORM AT ALL and the UN should immediately address that issue in precisely the same manner it did years ago with SOUTH AFRICA.

          • John Ashcraft

            .
            Armageddon: Armies From All Nations will Gather Against Israel and God

            Although it is popularly thought that the Battle of Armageddon will be the greatest-ever World-War between the nations of the earth, this is an inaccurate image of it. Rather, as
            the Bible portrays it, Armageddon is a huge battle which will be instigated by
            the Antichrist (Obama, the Mahdi) along with all the armies of godless and deceived mankind, who
            will think that they have a chance to destroy Jerusalem, and then perhaps even defeat Christ himself at the Second Coming. Revelation 16:12-16 brings out that rulers from the whole world will gather their armies to Armageddon to dobattle. Zechariah 14:1-3 tells of the same thing, adding that the nations will gather to fight against Jerusalem, and for a while they will be partially successful, capturing and ransacking the city, and taking half the population prisoner. But then the Lord himself “will go out and fight against those nations” (v.3).

          • John Ashcraft

            Here’s the way Revelation
            19:11-16 describes Jesus Christ as he goes to war in the Battle of Armageddon :
            “I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose
            rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. His
            eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name
            written on him that no one knows but he himself. He is dressed in a robe dipped
            in blood, and his name is the Word of God. The armies of heaven were following
            him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. Out of
            his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He
            will rule them with an iron scepter.” He treads the winepress of the fury
            of the wrath of God Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has this name
            written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.” According to Zechariah chapter
            14, the Lord will decimate the armies of the world by causing their flesh to
            “rot while they are still standing on their feet, and their eyes will rot
            in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths” (v.12)
            …then, those forces will be struck with such a panic that they will attack
            each other. In Revelation 14:14-20, we see that the judgment and wrath of
            Christ against the ungodly will cause their blood to flow as high as the
            horses’ bridles for a distance of 300 kilometers.

          • John Ashcraft

            Between now and this war in 2018, 4 billion people will die in the entire globe.

          • CASTIEL

            I realy hope that you are right……too many idiots walking this earth…….

          • socalbeachdude

            Why are you so interested in seeing wars and the resulting destruction and death?

          • CASTIEL

            To restore balance in this world……maybe in those times people will give importance to what really matters in life…and if we keep this way in 100 years there will not exist recources in this earth enough to everyone…..because people reproduce like rats……a war just clean a landscape of concrete and pollution….and zombies…

          • socalbeachdude

            Pitifully false. There are only a little over 7 billion people in the world and very few of those even live in the Middle East. I would suggest you get help for your delusions.

          • John Ashcraft

            Dear stupid, due to hatred of ethics, races, religions, and anything else you hatred can dream up, since 1 CE, over one billion people have been murdered for the love of hatred.

          • socalbeachdude

            I speak in the name of PEACE, and you are the one spewing endless hatred.

          • John Ashcraft

            There are 764, 748, 169 million people in the Middle East trying to take of the map 8 million people and kill them otherwise known as Israel and you believe litte ole Israel is the problem verses 764, 748, 169 million Islamics.

          • socalbeachdude

            Israel is the ONLY country in the Middle East that has a history of attacking its neighbors and the ONLY country in the Middle East with nuclear weapons.

          • John Ashcraft

            You should say Israel has no right to exist on Philistine lands that the Arabs stole to begin with. The Arabs were tenant farmers so they came in and settled on the occupied or unoccupied land and claimed it as theirs because it was theirs since 4001 BCE which is a lie but you like to make lies the truth and the truth into lies. .

          • John Ashcraft

            Dear Stupid. UN has 200 sanctions against Israel, one against China, one against Iran, one against every nation in the world but UN hates Israel and God’s people in general so as long as hatred against God exists, sanctions will be placed againsr all the people of the Bible.

          • John Ashcraft

            Islam has genocided all the religions of the world since it became a religion of war which they call a religion of peace. Hey, I think I will develop a list of the millions Islam has genocided. I suspect by now that it may be close to 200 million.

          • socalbeachdude

            Totally false.

          • John Ashcraft

            Israel gives cement to Gaza so they can build homes but the Arabs (Islamic Butchers) take the cement to build tunnels into Israel to kill them. I am sorry to tell you this but the war that will be coming against Israel in 2017 from the 10 Islamic Nations circling Israel called the Psalm 83 war will go bad for the Islamics around August September timeframe because the Islamics will get buthered by tornadoes, hurricanes, sand storms, Tsunami’s, earthquakes, major lightning strikes, hailstones the size of footballs or larger, fire, chemical weapons, nuclear radiation from their own weapons being aimed at Israel and Israel wins in the end. But this Psalm 83 war is also a war of judgment against the Jews for not obeying God because most Jews are atheistic or agnostic. After this war, the next war will be in 2018 but this time the entire globe goes against Israel (5 million man army) and that army dies in the end and Israel wins again. So between this year and next year, an average of 20 million Islamics will die going against the God of the Universe and Allah loses the battle.

          • socalbeachdude

            What utterly bogus nonsense.

          • John Ashcraft

            Then keep believing the lies that you believe. Even if you read the truth, you would believe it to be utterly nonsense because you are so filled up with lies that you believe them to be the truth.
            At this time in history the truth has become false and the lies or false has become truth.

          • socalbeachdude

            Laughably false.

          • John Ashcraft

            Isaiah 5:20 ESV
            Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!

            2 Timothy 3:1-5 ESV
            But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.

            2 Timothy 3:13 ESV
            While evil people and impostors will go on from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.

          • socalbeachdude

            What do those 2,000 year old quotes have to do with anything?

    • Orange Jean

      I had a number of friends years ago who were Israeli. One of them I remember well was a descendant of part of the “8% of Jews” who lived in that country back then. The way he told the story… almost all the Arabs living there left, but they did so voluntarily. Not sure if they just abandoned the places they lived in or sold them first.

      But if you own live in one place and decide to sell your home and move to another place by choice… I don’t think you still own the house you used to. My parents sold a house in MA in 1968 and moved to FL. Neither myself nor any of my brothers foolishly think that is still our family’s house… even though my family built it themselves and I remember watching my father for hours and months as he personally laid all the bricks to build the 2 fireplaces they wanted.

      Or if you abandon property and no longer pay taxes you owe… pretty soon you’ll find the government takes it over.

      And your argument reminds me of La Raza’s Reconquesta argument that they make … that the US “stole” the Southwest from Mexico. In reality, except for a small part of Texas won in the war… the US paid $18 million to Mexico for those lands, which Maxmillon (however it’s spelt… Mexico’s emperor at the time) sold to us to pay off a huge gambling debt he had.

    • E Coot

      Illegal you say. This is the prize from war. The duty of the infantry is to “kill the enemy and take his land from him” Quote from ROTC Manual. Conquest adds land and has always been so. Lets give the USA back to the Native Americans; another illegal action don’t you think?

      • John Ashcraft

        Why not America go back to her borders of 1776 or even 1700 borders.

    • sharonsj

      Actually, a good deal of the land was owned by absentee Arab landlords from other countries. There were complex laws regarding land registry and most of the Palestinians who claim to own land now actually began as tenant farmers and do not have registered claims. Saying that Israel “stole” the land is not correct and parroting crap will not make it correct,.

      • socalbeachdude

        Your assertions are laughably and totally false.

    • Elainee Perkins

      The Balfour Declaration was created to give the Jewish people a land of their own after the Holocaust.
      The land that was set aside for the Jewish people by the Balfour Declaration created a stir with the Arabs and Muslims because they did not want the Jewish people to have a State. Because of the oil that the Arabs had, Britain took 2/3 of the land that was promised to ISRAEL and gave it to the Arabs to create Trans-Jordan which is now called Jordan.
      This left ISRAEL with 1/3 of the land that was promised to them by the Balfour Declaration. But the Arabs and Muslims were still not satisfied BECAUSE they didn’t want the Jewish people to have a state, nor did they want them to survive.
      There never has been a people called Palestinians. This was something made up by the leaders of the Arab and Muslim countries to take the land away from the Jewish people.

      …7″I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you throughout their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and to your descendants after you. 8″I will give to you and to your descendants after you, the land of your sojournings, all the land of Canaan, for an
      everlasting possession; and I will be their God.” Genesis Ch 17, V 7,8

      The Bottom line is this: All the land of ISRAEL was promised to the Jewish people by an “Unconditional Everlasting Blood Covenant”. JEHOVAH GOD did this by HIMSELF stating that HE was giving this land to Abraham, Issac and Jacob. JEHOVAH GOD does not break Covenants. Anyone who says HE does, is calling HIM a liar. That puts them on dangerous ground.

      Here is Part of that Blood Covenant.
      In regards to the land that God has promised Israel, Genesis15:18 declares to Abraham, “To your descendants I give this land, from the river of Egypt
      to the great river, the Euphrates.” God later confirms this promise to Abraham’s son Isaac and Isaac’s son Jacob (whose name was later changed to Israel).
      When the Israelites were about to invade the Promised Land, God reiterated the land promise, as recorded in Joshua 1:4, “Your territory will extend from the desert to Lebanon, and from the great river, the Euphrates—all the Hittite country—to the Great Sea
      on the west.”

      19 And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will
      establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him.
      20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will
      multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.
      21 But MY COVENANT will I establish with ISAAC, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the
      next year. Genesis Chapter 17, V 19-21

      Those who are denying ISRAEL their PROMISED land are going to be judged and their punishment is going to be real ugly. JEHOVAH GOD’s Holy Word is plain on this.

      • socalbeachdude

        That is an extraordinary ignorant and utterly stupid assertion.

        The present situation of the Palestinian people is MOST CERTAINLY NOT OF THEIR OWN MAKING AND THEY HAVE BEEN UNDER SAVAGE ATTACK BY THE PEOPLE OF WHAT IS NOW ISRAEL FOR NEARLY THE PAST 100 YEARS SINCE 19761 WHEN THE BALFOUR DOCUMENT WAS CREATED BY ENGLAND FOR THE ROTHSCHILDS TO START A COUNTRY IN PALESTINE WHICH WAS CONTROLLED BY THE UK.

        Back in 1917, 92% of the land of Palestine was owned by Arab Palestinians and 8% was owned by Jewish folks, and most of the land owned by the Palestinians was ILLEGALLY SEIZED FROM THEM WHICH IS WHAT IS AT THE VERY HEART OF THE “PALESTINIAN PROBLEM.”

        The History of Palestine

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3bxj1uvDXU&feature=player_embedded

        The Balfour Declaration was created in 1917 and had nothing whatsoever to do with the so-called “holocaust” which is alleged to have occurred in the 1940s in which it is claimed by some that 6 million Jewi9sh people died. The fact of the matter is that more than 50 MILLION PEOPLE died during World War II.

        The Truth on Israel Palestine Conflict

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc8EjQEpZ3s

        History of the Israeli Palestinian Conflict

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9Q_8ZrYku4

        History of Israel Palestine

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TI5Mwyhzhg

    • Nicky1211

      No, in the ’67 war Jordan and Egypt lost the land in question. The Palestinian ppl are Jordanians and Egyptians. Egypt and Jordan won’t take them back. The history is that all people in that area of the ME have always been called Palestinian. Jew and Arab. Then Arafat coined the phrase Palestine for the people. How can you say that it was illegally seized when it was won because the Jordanians and Egyptians started a war. It was confiscated because of the war
      ,,,,,, like all lands. Those who wage a war and lose the land are out of luck.

      • socalbeachdude

        That is certainly a UNIQUE FANTASY VIEW of the situation in the Middle East!!! ROTFL!!!

    • ThomasThePaine

      There is not now, nor there has ever been any such a thing as a “Palestinian”. There has never been a country named Palestine. There has never been a capital to country named Palestine. There has never been a currency of country named Palestine.
      The so called “palestinians” (capital omitted intentionally) are an invented people, created by the usual left wing suspects after 1967. Prior to that date, Gaza was part of Egypt and the West Bank was part of Jordan: Your so called “palestinians” are Egyptian and Jordanian rejects. Notice that neither Egypt nor Jordan want their former lands back. . .
      The name Palestina was created by Emperor Hadrian in 135 AD as a punishment to the Jews for their constant rebellions against the Roman Empire.
      Hadrian ordered to strike the word Judea from all maps and replace it with the word Palestina, meaning “Land of the Philistines”, the ancient enemies of the Israelites, who by the way, had ceased to exist over a thousand years earlier.
      The common left wing myth, that the so called “palestinans” are the descendants of the Philistines, is easily disproved: The Philistines were not Semites. They were referred to as “the uncircumcised” and they were more than likely Greeks.
      I you really want to stick to history, the only real Palestinians are the Jews!

    • Abderrahmane57

      Unfortunately you are wrong about land ownership, 1% was locally owned 5% Jewish and 94% STATE owned in 1917.

      The state being the Ottomans… the land was then placed in mandate to the British by the League of notations and then divided by the San Remo agreement.

      It is the San Remo agreement that is the law in this case.

      Hence Obama – a lawyer- making a fool of himself with the latest SC resolution – it is simply wrong in law as the area isn’t and hasn’t been a sovereign state since 1917/1948

      • socalbeachdude

        Those are totally false assertions.

        • Abderrahmane57

          Lol, how erudite of you……you are so obviously out of you depth!

          • socalbeachdude

            Nope, but that does describe YOU.

          • Sun Rise

            That’s not all. He’s been caught lying, deflecting, and denying seeing a webpage he himself posted to a commentator. It’s all very interesting. This is strategy Muslims are taught when defending Islam…

            Have you ever watched David Woods of Acts17 Apologetics? Even if a person is not religious, he has very interesting and useful information.

        • Abderrahmane57

          Lol, how erudite of you……you are so obviously out of your depth!

          • socalbeachdude

            Hardly, but YOU sure are.

          • Abderrahmane57

            But no answer from you speaks volumes….you have been caught with you pants down and have no reply………Arab Palestinians ….lol…didn’t exist till the mid 1960s and were an invention of the East Germans…..

            At best there was land owned by absentee Turks….but the vast vast majority was state owned .

            Of course it’s really hard to own land when you are constantly on the move as the few ‘south Syrian Arabs’ – Bedouin – were.

            The clue is in the name Bedouin- look it up – educate yourself…!

          • socalbeachdude

            Are you really that ignorant as to the 4,000 or so year history of the area called Palestine? Really? Seriously?

          • Abderrahmane57

            Come on then, tell me of the 4000 year old history of the Palestinians……

            who were their leaders?
            What currency did they use?
            Who where the great warriors, writers, artitists, doctors?
            Who did they trade with?
            What museums show them?

            Point me to a book or poetry written by one of them…..?

            ####* puts out deck chair, pours beer, opens packet of peanuts……….*####

            Waiting……..

          • socalbeachdude

            History of Palestine – Wikipedia

            The history of Palestine is the study of the past in the region of Palestine, generally defined as a geographic region in the Southern Levant between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River (where Israel and the Palestinian territories are today), and various adjoining lands.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Palestine

          • Abderrahmane57

            I thought you would attempt to call people in the area Palestinian when they weren’t….how predictable and dishonest of you.

            No Arab called themselves Palestinian until 1964, errr even the 1936 revolt was called the Arab revolt, I wonder why?

            You will have to do much better than a wiki page, which rather proved my point and not yours……

          • socalbeachdude

            Can’t you read and/or comprehend? The area there in the Middle East as defined clearly above has been referred to as PALESTINE for thousands of years.

          • Abderrahmane57

            Yup the area has but no trace of a people called Palestinians until tJews adopted it just over 100 years ago

            And of course Muslims in 1964.

            You lose!

          • Abderrahmane57

            Yup, you lose….try again, anything before 1964 will do……

    • There is no ‘palestinian’ problem.
      They create their own issues.
      They were:
      *kicked out of Kuwait
      *kicked out of Jordan
      *murdered over 15K Christians in Lebanon.

      That was not Israel’s fault. And, you’re an idiot who supports this monster.

  • K

    final status solution, an interesting phrase. Take status out, and you end up with a familiar phrase.How shameful the US is saying it. Notice the fascist rhetoric, by the troll. He even votes for himself. No right to exist, there is hate speech if I ever heard it. Time to put this one on ignore. But for the hate speech he should be banned.

    • watchmannonthewall

      I’ll never understand how hatred can so totally consume someone that they actually cease to exist as a person. Only their hatred remains.

  • tacoma

    The 1967 Six Day War was started by Israel, attacked Egypt first, then Syria and Jordon. By the end of the 6th day, Israel captured the Sinai Peninsula from Egypt, Golan Heights from Syria, West Bank and East Jerusalem Jordon. Israel regards these captured lands as its territory, provided by God forever.

    As a result of this loss of Arab land, many hundred thousands of refugees were uprooted and expelled. Israel proceeded to settle its citizens into the captured land, hoping to make the war land prize permanent.

    But the war was started by Israeli as aggression, thus illegal under UN Charter. Peace treaties were never signed where the 3 Arab countries agreed to the loss of their land. This situation remains to now. All attempts by the UN Security Council to enforce its Charter, which states all land from wars of aggression illegal, were blocked by the United States.

    [As a historical note, the UN was created after WW2. During WW2 times stronger countries often launched wars to capture and plunder foreign land. This was not ‘illegal’. That’s just the way things worked since the beginning of human civilization. The UN founding charter was to ban such wars of aggression by making them illegal – itself being the setter of international laws. The purpose is to prevent the starting of another world war, or smaller aggression wars that can lead to bigger ones. Once found illegal the UN can authorize imposition all kinds of punitive measured on the country involved. It can even not recognize the state or borders. Ban trade of all kinds including military.]

    The UN Security Council have just decided the borders after the 1967 Six Day War illegal. It will soon decide what to do about it – redraw the borders, assign ownership, create new states, etc.

    If it almost impossible for Israel to defy the Security Council decisions. Because the permanent members have approved it, while majority of non-permanent members approved.

  • HeyAHuman

    WOW, can’t say ZlONIST without getting flagged… just wow.

    • Brad Dueringer

      That term has got me censored many times on supposed alternative web sites…..it’s amazing how much control these people have.

      To learn who rules over you, figure who you are not allowed to criticize

  • socalbeachdude

    By Way of Deception – Motto of the Israeli Mossad

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_Way_of_Deception

  • socalbeachdude

    Galloway – ‘Gangster Terrorist Israel’s Days Numbered

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eYVhQxcxhw

  • socalbeachdude

    The term PALESTINE is thousands of years old and was first used by the Greeks to describe the region which Israel now mostly occupies.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine

    The whole world knows that ISRAEL IS A TERRORIST STATE which is precisely why so many nations have demanded the UN establish a WAR CRIMES INVESTIGATION AGAINST ISRAEL which is now established and investigating massive allegations of war crimes by Israel against the people of Palestine and humanity.

    • Joe Trevors

      To return to my consideration. The State of Israel is one of the signs of the End Times. It strike me ironic about the state of Israel today in this way: Syria is on the border of Israel where genocide of hundreds of thousands of Christians & Muslims has been occurring for the past few years. I have not heard Israel protesting the genocide of non-Jews. Yet Israel has many Jews who fled genocide themselves. You would think that Israel would be the first to be horrified at the genocide occurring in its next door neighbor, Syria? Christianity is being destroyed & eliminated in the Middle East. Is this not a 2nd Sign of the end times?

      • socalbeachdude

        The only thing coming to an end is the endless reign of TERRORISM BY ISRAEL.

    • James Staten

      You are biblically ignorant, that is dangerous in this world and the world to come!!!

      • socalbeachdude

        This has nothing to do with the bible but rather everything to do with international law and proper and legal behavior of a world country. There is nothing more dangerous than waging wards in the name of religion with “God on our Side.”

        • James Staten

          If you would take the time to read the Bible…the first deed of land ever issued is recorded there, and it’s not what the world wants to hear. Jerusalem has become a Cup of Trembling a Burdensome Stone to the whole world, and everyone who comes against it will be cut to pieces. And when the nations come to part that Land and come again her..the Lord’s Wrath will be poured out!!! Zechariah 12-14 (Short Version)

          • socalbeachdude

            Jerusalem has always been a hostile political bellicose mess throughout its entire history from 1400 BC until now.

          • Sun Rise

            Ever ask yourself “why”?

          • socalbeachdude

            I know why: BAD BEHAVIOR.

          • Sun Rise

            Socaldude listens to Jeff Rense, a raving anti-Semite.

          • socalbeachdude

            Jeff Rense is not in any way an “anti-Semite” at all and provides very broad and fair coverage to the issues in the Middle East.

    • bc

      If you are going to get your facts from Wikipedia, you might want to also check with Snopes. (A fat lady & her husband in their basement with their cat ! ) Lol

      • socalbeachdude

        With what specifics above do you disagree?

  • bvgp

    I think this is the best news ever. I don’t agree that it will cause wars in all the Arab Countries – and there is no Country, not even the USA that could deal with that and stop it anyway. What can the USA do? Even if all Arab Countries do withdraw the Israeli Embassies and a Temper Tantrum Erupts! Invade every single Country? GEt out of here! I only wish I could be with them in one of those Countries to join in with the Temper Tantrum! If it happens. !!! I might do it actually! What do you reckon – which is a good country to join in? Lebanon? I might just get me passport ready and pack me bag 😀 Oh way to go! It will clear the battlefields i Iraq and Syria – imagine how many will wanna leave ISIS and Al Qaeda to join in with that!!!! It could UNITE more people in the region than ever before!!!!

  • bvgp

    Just imagine how much space there will be for Palestinians to go back! It will save the agencies so much money in refugee camps – what’s not to like? Obama and Kerry are wise. Trump is an idiot. USA can’t even afford to pay it’s way in Refugee Fees! It’s collapsing! His solution is to stop paying for USA’s mistakes , and go on a selfish bender He’s just a retard – of course the only solution is to kick all the Murikans out of JIzzrael and put the Refugees back!

  • barry oldwater

    Trump needs to tell them if this goes through and the u.n. acts on any resolution that has been passed in the past 60 days all funding will be cut off for one year minimum and our delegates will be prohibited from attending any conferences until late such time as funding has been restored.

    • socalbeachdude

      That’s obviously not going to happen.

  • billtheguy

    It is still a religious war. The Bible is a threat to the Arab/Muslim/Islamic nations. I pray for the USA, the wrath of God is upon us.

    • jox

      Nonsense. Muslims have the same relationship with the Bible than Jews. American christians have been brainwashed.

      • Bill G Wilminton NC

        The Muslims Read The Koran

        Shalom

        • Guest

          The Bible was written first. The Quran was copied from it. But I am sure you know that already.

          • Bill G Wilminton NC

            Yes But Thanks For Your Input..

            Shalom

    • socalbeachdude

      The Christian bible is pretty much the same set of stories as the Islamic koran.

      • GSOB

        We know that our old self was crucified with Him so that the body of sin might be rendered powerless, that we should no longer be slaves to sin.
        For anyone who has died has been freed from sin.
        Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with Him.…

        • socalbeachdude

          What do any of your religious assertions have to do with the RULE OF INTERNATIONAL LAW as to the State of Israel and the State of Palestine which is the only thing that matters the slightest bit of a hoot?

  • Cindy Murphy

    God Please stop Obama before this Takes place please Jesus Christ save us Save Israel.

  • DJohn1

    Pulling last minute diplomatic work with a lame duck President is dirty.
    Where is the Congress when all of this is going on?
    Where is the Supreme Court?
    What I see happening is the prelude to the United States leaving the UN and creating a situation that may lead to its being done away with in the near future.

    I suggest also President Obama may be working outside of his boundaries as an outgoing president. Even in opposition to the Republican Party involving the UN is just plain wrong at this point in time.
    Sadly unless these politicians grow up and take their responsibilities a lot more seriously than they have in the past, this man will get away with it.
    Our constitution should be the guide upon which they rest their case before the courts. The UN assumes authority over us. That also is wrong and will be contested in the near future.
    I suggest we get out of this organization and also defund it.
    I also suggest they take our sovereignty a little more seriously. This country is likely to kick them out.

  • Cinderella Man

    This is a somewhat better article…stated the facts of the positions of all the parties and the reactions of said parties. Ok just keep it to the point. You don’t have to add spin at the end. As I have stated before I don’t believe in curses..just bad decisions and the consequences that you have to live with because of them. I got upset when you say natural phenomenon such as storms are results for not supporting Israel. That the perfect storm went out of its way to trash president Bush’s house. That arguement falls flat on its face when you think about Hurricane Sandy. So stop with the curses it makes you look like a superstitious fool. Stick to being a factual reporter of hidden statistics and finding stories about the economic conditions of everyday Americans. These kind of stories make you look like the type of guy who gets upset when the salt spills or breaks a mirror.

  • Charles

    Just more of the same old same old. Stop the fear mongering. If he can’t stop child abuse he certainly could care less about this.

  • White Knight

    This is seriously disturbing news. Israel is never the aggressor, they never start the fights, but they do finish them.
    But even if you believe with all your heart that Israel is the worst thing you’ve ever seen, it doesn’t change the fact that God said He is going to bless those who bless it and curse those who curse it. You see, at one point, God’s people are deeply offending him, but He states that for the sake of His name, he will hold His commitment. So, you see, even if Israel was incredibly evil (most of it isn’t Christian!), God would STILL protect it, because He said He would. And God ALWAYS keeps His word.
    So you fools who cheer on its destruction, I implore you to stop. But if you don’t, your blood is not on my hands. I have sounded the alarm from the high wall. The choice is now yours.

    • Amina Darden

      Amen White Knight!

      • James Staten

        Amen again!!!

        • Bill G Wilminton NC

          Amen Again !!!

          Shalom

  • jox

    Do American fanatics realize that in the rest of the world this is seen as a BIG step towards peace, even by the most christian and friend of Israel people?

  • sister soldier

    The Lord has recorded in His holy word that in the latter years or the last days He will put hooks into their jaws and drag Israel’s enemies from the remote parts of the north and that they will bring many people with them (foreign nations) to war against Israel. It is also important to know that God alone is doing the summoning in this case and whenever it pertains to His covenant with His chosen people meaning the Jews [John 4:22 You worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.] Like it or not prophecy is directly tied to the nation of Israel. A small insignificant strip of land by geographical measurements and standards but a cup of trembling for all who wish to pick it up it becomes a burdensome stone.

    In the book of Ezekiel chapter 38, Thus says the Lord God, “On that day when My people Israel are living securely, will you not know it? You will come from your place out of the remote parts of the north, you and many peoples with you, all of them riding on horses, a great assembly and a mighty army; and you will come up against My people Israel like a cloud to cover the land. It shall come in the last days that I (God) will bring you against My land, so that the nations may know Me when I am sanctified through you before their eyes, O Gog” or (Magog) also called the Prince of Rosh.”

    It is no accident that Trump and Putin picked up the cause to champion moving the American Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem during Trump’s campaign but I do not submit that it is a noble act or “good deed” on either of their fallible parts but rather they are being used by the hand of God to fulfill His will and divine purpose. Just as Judas Iscariot was born for a greater purpose concerning the plan of salvation yet Christ Himself said that it would have been better for him (Judas) if he had not been born. Leaders are instrumental for that purpose whether they are good or evil they are still at the mercy and under the authority of God. And it is my opinion that the only God factor in the new bromance between Putin and Trump is that God is aligning the nation’s for His own glory as He has declared, “I will magnify Myself, sanctify Myself, and make Myself known in the sight of many nations; and they will know that I am the Lord.”

    • FireHope

      Excellent post. Thanks

    • bc

      Hey, good to see a post with some common sense & wisdom within it !!

      • sister soldier

        I am truly humbled. Thank you.

        • bc

          He that is within us is stronger than he who is in the world !

          • sister soldier

            Amen.

          • GSOB

            Acts 28:28
            Romans 11:15

        • GSOB

          Hebrews 12:22

    • socalbeachdude

      And what does any of that have to do with the behavior of the State of Israel since 1948?

      • sister soldier

        It has everything to do with Israel – date is irrelevant in your argument unless you are attempting to map God’s timeline. All of the nations on earth are blessed because of Israel. Abraham is the father of the Jews and he was called a friend of God and the land covenant is with Abraham and to his seed (not the seed of the bondwoman) but the free woman.

        The Lord does not change. He is the same yesterday, today and forever. Our commandment (concerning Israel) as it pertains to blood washed gentiles who were grafted in as (wild olive branches) into the natural olive tree (Jews/Israel) is to pray for the peace and safety of Israel. Their destiny is in God’s hands. Rather than curse them with our mouths we should fast and pray for our own salvation and deliverance. If you are not going to bless the nation then surely do not curse it. We are not qualified to judge Israel as Americans or gentiles living in a nation that has also crucified the Lord Jesus Christ afresh and on a daily and minute by minute basis.

        Jesus preached in Jerusalem.
        He was the spotless Lamb of God who gave His life as a ransom for the sins of all people – Jews and Gentiles.
        Jerusalem, Israel, is the city chosen by God to put His name there and He did not say He would put there in 1948. It is the eternal city!

        I don’t believe that anyone other than God is qualified to condemn Israel or the Jewish people.

        • socalbeachdude

          Only in the minds of some radical Jews who are in violation of international law and in an array of violations of more UN resolutions than any country in the world.

        • GSOB

          Matthew 21:43
          Galatians 4:26

          • socalbeachdude

            What does that have to do with humane decency and law?

          • GSOB

            Galatians 5:24-25
            Romans 8:4
            Philippians 3:3

        • FireHope

          Hi sister soldier. You may want to take the option of blocking socal…etc. I did and it is so pleasant to read ‘blocked’ wherever he has made a comment.

          • Bill G Wilminton NC

            Mr Firehope I blocked Socal Months Ago And I Just Roar Laughing At All The Blocks As I Have One On Snotty And Someone Else….Its So Beautiful lol.

          • FireHope

            100% agree Mr. Wilminton 🙂 – my favourite feature on Disqus. I do enjoy your comments though. Keep ’em rolling!

    • Gay Veteran

      bilge

    • Bill G Wilminton NC

      Putin Has Had NO Involvement With Trump In Proposed Moving Of US Embassy From Tel Aviv To Jerusalem.

      There Is No Bromance Betwwen Trump And Putin Just Two World Leaders With Mutual Respect For Each Other.

      God Has His Hand On Trumps Shoulder It Is Obvious.

      God Works In Mysterious Ways !

      Shalom

      • sister soldier

        [Breaking Israel News]

        The Nascent Sanhedrin is calling on Russian President Vladmir Putin and US president-elect Donald Trump to join forces and fulfill their Biblically-mandated roles by rebuilding the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem.

        Rabbi Hillel Weiss, spokesman for the Sanhedrin, contacted Breaking Israel News to announce that the election of Trump, who has promised to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, coupled with Putin’s expressed desire for the Temple to be rebuilt, prompted the Jewish court to send a letter offering the two the opportunity to act as modern-day Cyrus figures: non-Jewish kings who recognize the importance of Israel and the Temple.

  • jerjojo

    G-d has said He will bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse Israel. Father G-d, I bring this up to You to ask that You do this so the the whole world will know that You are over everything. That You are the King of the Universe. For those who do not know where that scripture is, may I suggest that you look it up. Reading the Word of G-d is great for the soul. That would include the Torah, Tanakh, and the New Testament. Hint the verses are in the Tanakh(First Covenant). I am not Jewish as far as I know, but I would gladly die for Israel and the Jewish people, enough said.

    • socalbeachdude

      Radical religious views in Israel in no way justify the bellicose and inhumane behavior by politicians in Israel and like all countries Israel is subject to international law.

    • Gay Veteran

      move there

  • Carlwilliam

    Let it happen; it will be a positive step for world politics and for humanity!

  • LIZ THE SHIZ

    I always wondered because all these national bounderies were drawn up by colonial empires back in the early 20th century why don’t the take a piece of western Jordan and some of the Sinai along with part of the West Bank and create the Palistinian State, a major part of Jordan’s population is Palistinian and Egypt could sell off a piece of the Sinai, just a suggestion

  • Poe

    Golden rule is not optional. What we do to others, we do it to our self! Specialness is Ego; causes to the world chaos….

  • Cynthia Ozbat

    Michael you keep speaking truth in spite of all who come against you, we are becoming few. The lines are being drawn, physically and spiritually. Before Trump you would have heard religious leaders sounding the alarm near and far but they have now been lulled into a false sense of peace, thus not a word or worry from most of them. Keep sounding the alarm, someone may still be listening.

  • Jack Frost

    Jews have unabashedly supported racial politics electorally and financially in the U.S. for many decades. Hopefully they will still feel the same way when their strategies are used against them in their homeland. They should welcome the chance to interact closely with those who desire their ultimate destruction. They helped foist it on this nation, now they get to have a slice as well. Are all the Jews flocking home to defend their homeland? Or will they stay in their posh upper side digs and watch from afar? Maybe sent them a token donation in a show of support…

    • socalbeachdude

      Indeed.

  • Stuey

    90% of Jews living in the USA voted for Obama twice because they agree with his liberal beliefs. Like the song says “how do you like me now”, Obama is now saying to the American Jews.

    • socalbeachdude
      • Bill Blais

        Let it be Jewish

        • iris

          agree!

        • ???

          Let Israel be Hebrew and a nation for all 12 tribes, not just Judahites (Jews).

        • Joseph Kelsall

          If you really want to be jewish, hand in your second passports

      • k9style

        Right because all of the islamic countries can either be muslim or arab but not both….oh wait…oh yeah that’s right.

    • Pen Pal

      Now, it is TOO LATE TO SAVE ISRAEL! The liberal Jews got what they paid for.

      • Jazz King

        But it is NEVER to late for G-d.

        • Joseph Kelsall

          You have 2 ‘os ‘ missing.

    • shropster

      There are no good guys in Israel. We need to get out of the Middle East and let ’em all have at it without us.
      For those who buy the Israeli line that they are God’s Chosen, those Jews are only about 5% of the total. That 5% are the Shepardic Jews, those of them who the Arabs haven’t killed, are still scattered around theMediterranean. The rest have their roots in Kazakstan and speak Yiddish.
      BTW, didn’t God form a new covenant with those who believe in Jesus?

      • Elainee Perkins

        The GOD of Abraham, Issac and Jacob made an “Unconditional Everlasting Blood Covenant” with Abraham, that renewed with ISSAC and then Jacob (whose name was changed to ISRAEL by GOD Himself). That Blood Covenant has never been broken and never will be. This was, as the Scripture says “Unconditional” and “Everlasting”.
        The Church has never replaced ISRAEL and never will.
        When the Church is “Raptured” and it will be, GOD will take up where HE left off with ISRAEL, which will be the 7 years of Tribulation referred to as the “Time of Jacob’s Trouble”.

        All of this is in the Holy Word of JEHOVAH GOD.
        You can read about this “blood” covenant in Genesis Chapter 12, Chapter 15 and Chapter 17.
        You can deny it all day long but your denial will never change JEHOVAH GOD’s Holy Word or HIS Plan for HIS Chosen Inheritance, The Jewish people.

        • shropster

          I’m sorry about your problems with reading comprehension. Please refer to specific items in my post instead of a tent meeting rant.

          • Spectrum

            God bless Israel ! ( because He does, and if we know what’s good for us we’d better not argue with Him ).

        • Gave

          Old Testament stuff !!

          • #1: The grass withers, the flower fades, but the word of our God will stand **forever.**
            Isaiah 40:8 (OT)

            The Remnant of Israel Romans 11

            I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew.

            17 If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18 do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.” 20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith.

            *******Do not be arrogant, but tremble. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.********

            22 Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, ******you also will be cut off.*******

          • Gave

            You have a threatingly “angry” God?
            Where is Love & Forgiveness?

          • Where is yours?

          • You are the one that is cutting off Gods people.
            YOU have no love.

          • fanofjesus

            thank you; yes, I go by God’s Word, not conventional thinking.

          • What ‘conventional thinking?
            That religious Jews are to be shunned?
            What are you talking about?
            A “fan of Jesus?”
            A fan of Jesus judges by FRUIT not collectively by country

          • fanofjesus

            Hi; I am not sure what you thought I was saying, so I’ll rephrase it. I rely, for the Truth, on God’s Word, both of the new and the old testaments, as well as the prophetic words He gives thru prophets. I do not “lean on” any of man’s thinking, whether progressive or conventional. Yes, a fan of Jesus judges by fruit, not by what people say, or by their appearance, etc.
            btw, I appreciated (and was responding to) your posting of Romans 11; Romans 10 and 11 are the definitive word on God’s intentions with Israel.

          • I have NO idea what you’re talking about and how it relates to anything

          • Some of these ppl here are saying:
            ALL of Israel is satan.
            There are, in fact, Christians, Messianics, J4J’s, JW’s, Catholics and etc living in Israel.
            However, these people are saying ALL of Israel is the synagogue of satan.
            That is a lie FROM satan–to say such a thing.
            I agree that we are supposed to judge each PERSON by fruit.
            We dont judge ALL by some

          • fanofjesus

            You are correct that that is a lie to say that all of Israel is evil. Yes, they did reject God’s Son, but that was part of God’s plan to save the whole world; He purposely hardened their hearts so they would do that. Then, when He’s done with “the nations”, He will bring Israel back into His bosom.
            This “antisemitic” trend is meant to bring about the same public “zeitgeist” that led to all of Germany agreeing to murder part of their population–except that now, it will be the world agreeing to murder a whole nation-Israel.

          • Not all did. Apostles were Jews.
            I just believe that Israel does not need to be blamed CONSTANTLY for the apathy of people in other countries.
            In USA, most people did not look after their God given freedom and somehow, now, its all Israel’s fault

          • Joseph Kelsall

            How do you know? Do you have your family tree.

        • Argos

          in this day and age people still believe in mythology and fairy tales. grow up.

        • Argos

          in this day and age people still believe in mythology and fairy tales. grow up. the stupidity of people who believe in religion leads to intolerance. it is hurting the world and has led to countless millions of dead people for thousands of years.

          • FreddyB

            What blows me away is how ignorant people can be. Everyone is jumping up and down screaming at how Islam is incompatible with our Western society completely forgetting that Christianity did the same damn thing and the only difference is it succeeded in purging most other religions from the Earth as they ran around murdering in the name of their god.
            Truly is the blind leading the blind.

          • Jazz King

            that is all true. they were not real Christians. They were devilish evil men using the name of G-d. A true believer would not do that. They only got by using and misusing the name of CHRIST. “Depart from me, I never knew you.” He (the Lord) will say to those wicked men. And it won’t be that far off now.

          • Kevin Butterfield

            Believing that science can peer billions of years into the past is mythology, and believing that everything before you, living and non-living, evolved is a fairy tale.

          • justathought

            I’d like to see the look on your face when you stand before Jesus Christ at the Great White Throne Judgment!

          • Argos

            you must be the most damned person on earth. you condoners of land theft, murderers of poor helpless children. i really pity you. may god have mercy on your soul because you really really need it. you poor delusional creature

          • Joseph Kelsall

            I’ll pass on that!

          • Just Me

            That is because they do not know God and are not following God. They follow the God of their own hearts and desires. If you truly knew God you would know who he his and what he stands for.

            For thousands of years for the most part men have made war and slaughtered innocent people. This has been mainly for gain, control and greed. Not because of God!

            If people say all Jews are no good because half of them are not good. Then you must also say that all American’s are no good because half of them are not good

        • FreddyB

          Was having a chit chat with Zeus the other day and had a good laugh at how people still think the bible is an accurate historical account.

          • ???

            I suspect you will be able to raise your right hand with it’s 666 RFID implant in it in the near future and witness just how accurate it really is.

        • chris

          better read on, their name brand god divorced them.

        • Joseph Kelsall

          What about Ishmael?

      • Gave

        Yes ! Yes, with Christians.
        Remember what the jews did to the Lord Jesus Christ:
        The jews traded the Lord Jesus Christ- Son of God for a thief named Barabbas.
        Roman Pontius Pilate sealed the deal.
        Sad, Trump was nowhere at the time.

        • Jesus was not a Christian.
          He was a Jew.
          “We the people” didnt show up until 1789.

          • Gave

            Jesus was Christ, the Son of God.
            (Was His mother, Virgin Mary a jew?)
            He was traded by the Jews for a thief named Barabbas – the worst trade deal in biblical history.
            We, the people ….of Jesus Christ are called “Christians”.
            1789??? No Social Security existed at that time.
            What the heck are tou talking about?

          • Jesus was not a Christian, he walked the earth as a JEW.
            He was murdered by Romans.
            When you accept Jesus, you become a JEW.

          • stillnotregistering

            “When you accept Jesus, you become a JEW.”

            what a load of crap

          • Jesus was not a Christian. If you believe in Jesus, you are grafted in to the JEWISH faith

          • stillnotregistering

            i’ll take a pass on that … their “faith” didn’t include their savior now did it?

          • 12 apostles were Jews.
            They dont come to Christianity and they shouldnt.
            Their faith is JEWISH.
            You’re not of him, you would not hate Jesus if you were and you would not hate his brothers and you would love them.
            But, you are not a person of love b/c you are not from God.

          • chris

            gee your repition of false info is really annoying. better go study some more. lol

          • 12 Apostles were Jews

          • chris

            sorry for your madness and stupidity. but there were no jews at the time of the romans. lol lol

          • Romans took over Israel.
            You just are ignorant off history

          • chris

            listen you silly creature. there NEVER WAS A PLACE , COUNTRY OR STATE CALLED ISRAEL, ever!!!!!!!!!!

          • chris

            “This ‘big lie’ technique is brainwashing United States Christians into believing that Jesus Christ was “King of the Jews”, in the sense that so-called ‘Jews’ today call themselves ‘Jews’. This reference was first made in English translations of the Old and New Testaments, centuries before the so-called Jews highjacked the word ‘Jew’ in the 18th century A.D. to palm themselves off on the Christian world as having a kinship with Jesus Christ. This alleged kinship comes from the myth of their common ancestry with the so-called ‘Jews’ of the Holy Land in the Old Testament history, a fiction based on fable.”

          • stillnotregistering

            not of god? so you say … arrogance at its finest …
            the jews rejected their savior, woman … everyone knows that

          • The WHOLE WORLD rejects Jesus, daily.
            You do it all the time when you reject his original root people.
            You are no more in the graces of God than they are.
            Arrogance? Look in the mirror

          • Jews wrote the NT.
            The Jews are your elders.

          • Romans 11

            19 “Branches were broken off so that I could be **grafted in**.”

            ***********There was NO Christianity in the time of Jesus. Non Jews were GRAFTED IN to the Jews. IF they chose to believe in JEWISH Jesus.
            If you even believe in God and Jesus, you are GRAFTED IN to the JEWISH faith.

            Grafted in: Plant, join, adhere.

          • chris

            LOL LOL no jews existed then.

          • Pilate posted a sign on the cross that read, “Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews.”
            John 19:19
            Bible

          • Sun Rise

            Ephesians 2 says non-Jews become citizens of Israel. Maybe not Jewish, but certainly an Israelite.

          • chris

            there never was any place called israel.

          • socalbeachdude

            100% correct, chris.

          • Sun Rise

            And yet archaeology and history itself beg to differ with you….

          • chris

            wrong . the alleged israelites left no traces of themselves. no buildings no artifacts etc. even the present israeli thieves in palestine will tell you this. all archeological evidence is of other cultures. more proof that tents do not last. the people you want to claim were israel were tent dwellers and nomads. basically migrant workers who suffered from envy and repeatedly broke the commandment that they stole from the code of hammaurabi, ” thou shalt not covet thy neighbors goods. the entire buy bull is nothing more than bull.

          • stillnotregistering

            you confuse the nationstate … the SO-CALLED israel, with the real one … common mistake these days

            who has eyes to see …

          • Sun Rise

            Humour me. What to you think is the REAL Israel?

          • God is interested in who loves him and how do we show love?
            By loving people that may not be lovely.
            If you cannot do this, its simple: you dont have God

          • chris

            lol lol

          • chris

            totally wrong. arguing about a myth is hilarious.

          • Richard j Lacy

            Actually he was a Galilean!

          • He was the “Lion of the TRIBE of JUDAH” as it written in the NT and the “OT”

          • chris

            lmao!

          • Revelation 5:5: Bible
            “And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not:
            Behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David,

          • chris

            gee quoting from the buy bull, how original. lol lol your proof is a book allegedly written yrs and yrs after the alleged events. sounds like hearsay and fiction. lol

          • NT Bible was written almost 2000 years ago

          • chris

            ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Kevin Butterfield

            You’re throwing pearls before swine. These people are not going to be converted or changed in any way by your own convictions. They are callous and dumb. When it happens we’ll all know it, but only some will have hope.

          • All of this does not matter.
            God requires love from us.
            We love him b/c he first loves us.
            He gives us unlovely people so that we can learn to love.

          • Kevin Butterfield

            You’re wrong, Miss Beautiful Jewess. Sorry, but you have to use judgement. This is classic throwing pearls before swine. Loving your enemy does not mean you put a knife to your throat. Also, do not go around looking for an argument (that’s somewhere in the Bible, too). God may reap where he has not sown, etc, but this is just not the case. This is like standing in a crowd of people with everyone shouting something about something, and the only difference is that it is all written down. So, the considerate mind thinks, oh, I can reply directly to that lost soul and they will be effected. But it’s still a crowd. Like I said, it’s a judgement call, so it is ultimately your call, of course, but In my opinion, putting out blanket statements, and going “fishing” for converts or whatever you wish to accomplish is just is not how it happens, unless you’re trying to accomplish frustrating yourself. I typically will only respond to someone who I feel I “can” respond to effectively. There’s a lot of imbeciles out there who just want to push your buttons and create bitterness.

          • Sorry, but you have to use judgement.

            I agree, not supposed to judge ALL by some.

          • So, basically, Jews are the swine?

          • Kevin Butterfield

            I guess if you are referring to the idea that every one you addressed identifies as a Christian and that you say there is no Christian, but only Jews (and I get what you mean there, it’s no big deal) then I sort of see why you would write that, but not entirely. The other guess I have is that you are a crazy lady. Where’d I go wrong?

          • When you are grafted in to something, you are grafted IN.
            Jews dont become christians.
            Non Jews become spiritual Jews.

          • Kevin Butterfield

            Well, as Paul said, there are doers of the law and there hearers of the law. I don’t think it is entirely an important thing right here and now, though.

          • stillnotregistering

            “Jesus was not a Christian”

            what a dumb statement

          • Jesus was not a Christian, he walked this earth as a JEW.

          • chris

            wrong again i see. your madness is blinding. there were many cults that followed the assyrian/babylonian religion but there were no jews. that term came inyo usage in the 17th century thru mistranslation. lol

          • Joseph Kelsall

            THat is why Caiaphus had him crucified. Bad for business.

          • “Christian” means little Christ. The word Christian did not appear until 67 years after Jesus

          • chris

            wow, the ignorance is astounding here, you really are a mad jewess. lol there were no jews at the time the fairy tale joshua was made up. lol

          • Joseph Kelsall

            Well, his father was Roman and his mother should have been stoned to death, so where does that place her?

      • Nicky1211

        No

      • watchmannonthewall

        Here is my question:

        If a Jew keeps God’s Law, which is the Word of God, which is Yeshua (Jesus), who was claimed to be the Word of God made flesh by His disciple John, while the Christian claims to worship a Jesus who allows his followers to eat unclean things and keep pagan holidays and worship on SUNday as designated by Constantine the Catholic (NOT an apostle), and who also teach all kinds of doctrines NOT found in scripture, do the Jews “really” follow the Jesus of the Bible, but Chrisians follow “another Jesus”?

        Remember, Paul is the one who said, “If any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to that which you received, let him be accursed.” (Gal. 1:9)

        Recall that Paul, in Galatians, was teaching against the party ofthose who said one must be circumcised to be saved. Circumcision is a work of the flesh, not of the spirit; BUT it does portray a spiritual truth. (Deut. 10:16)

        The Galatians were following pagan rituals and keeping pagan holidays so Paul’s admonition against observing days, and months, and seasons, and years were against against adding Jesus to their belief system, syncretism, and then continuing in their original pagan practices. (See Acts 14:1-18 for Paul’s missionary journey to the Galatia region.) You do realize pagans also have such observances today and most Christians observe their holy days, right?

        How do we know that if one follows God’s Law he is considered more righteous than one who doesn’t?

        Paul said, “Will not he who is uncircumcised, if he keeps the Law, will not he judge you who who though having the letter of the Law AND circumcision are a transgressor of the Law?” (Romans 2:27) So we see that Paul said the person who keeps the Law will judge the person sho doesn’t keep the Law!
        If the Jew keeps the Law and the Gentile doesn’t, who is going to judge whom? Today the situation is 180 degrees out from where it was back in the time of Paul and Messiah! It is more likely the Jew will keep God’s Law than the Gentile!!

        Unfortunately, many (most?) Jews still keep the “Oral Law” and not the Law of Moses, which is God’s Law! (Ezra 7:6) God did NOT give the “Oral Law”!

        If Jews, or anyone, keeps God’s Law, aren’t they really exhibiting a belief in Jesus? He is the Living Word of God, isn’t He? Aren’t they living testimony of Him when they exemplify His Word through the way they live?

        • Gave

          The jews are not Christians.

          • watchmannonthewall

            My understanding is the term “Christian” is to be applied to “one like Christ”, something very few Christians are. If you want to understand this, read the gospels and note, by writing down, how many times Messiah said not only that His disciples have to live according to the way His Father commanded His family through Moses but all of the ways in which He did so Himself. Jesus affirmed everything Moses said. (John 5:45-47 and 7:18-19)

            Second, God prophesied though Moses that the Israelites were going to disobey Him and end up scattered throughout the world. (Deut. 30:1-4) Their eventual rejection of Mesiah is plainly prophesied throughout the OT and specifically in the rejection of Joseph by his brothers! In Deut. 30:3-4, Moses prophesies that God is going to restore them and bring them back to the Land of Israel when they obey everything Moses had commanded them on that day, that day 3,500 years ago! We are approaching that day!

            Third, and most important to your stated position, Jeremiah prophesied (31:35-37) that the only way God would break His covenant with Israel is if the fixed order of the sun and the moon ceases to occur. Last night and this morning I noticed it still continues.

            Fourth, Jeremiah addresses your exact argument in 33:24-26 by stating the following:
            “Have you observed what the peoples have spoken, saying ‘The 2 families which the LORD chose [Israel and Judah], He has rejected them’?
            Thus they despise MY people, no longer are they considered a nation in THEIR sight. [Your argument, yes?]

            Thus says the LORD, ‘If MY covenant for day and night stand not, and the fixed paterns of heaven and earth I have not established [Did He establish them and do they still occur day in and day out, year in and year out?],THEN I would reject the descendants of Jacob and David My servant, not taking from his descendants rulers over the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. BUT I will restore THEIR fortunes and have mercy on them.'”

            God has not cast His people off forever!! Rebellious Christians, as well as obedient ones, are going through the Great Tribulation also!!

            Paul tells us that the children of promise are the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as well as some of the those born to them after the flesh (Romans 9:6-8) He also tells us, “And so ALL Israel shall be saved”. (Romans 11:26) and that those Gentiles who believe, i.e., hear and do what Messiah said have been grafted into Israel, the natural tree. (Ephesians 2:11-13 & Romans 11:15-24)

            In fact in Romans 11:15 Paul actually alludes to the fact their being grafted back into the natural tree occurs at the time of the resurrection from the dead, tying this passage to Deut. 30:4, which also speaks of the resurrection from the dead.

            I hope this explanation and the scriptures noted helps you sort through some things in scripture that the Apostle Paul was well aware of. Our current religious leaders, not so much!! It is hard for our leaders to know what is taught in the Bible when they only read the back of the book.

          • socalbeachdude

            Hasn’t Moses been dead for a couple of thousand years?

          • watchmannonthewall

            I don’t know. Is he? You have a body? Do you have one for Jesus Christ? Interesting how that all fits together, yes?

          • socalbeachdude

            Moses has been dead for around 2,000 years and whatever he said way back then has no applicability whatsoever to do anything happening today in 2017.

          • watchmannonthewall

            Since God declares the end FROM the beginning, and Moses is the one who wrote down the beginning in the first 5 books of Scripture, what he has to say has EVERYTHING to do with what is happening today, and especially in the ME.
            Is. 46:9-10, “Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God and there is none like Me. Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, ‘My counsel shall stand and I shall do all MY pleasure.'”

          • socalbeachdude

            The world began MANY MILLIONS OF YEARS AGO and Moses only lived for a very short time about 2,000 years ago and has nothing to do with either the beginning or end of the world.

          • watchmannonthewall

            Ummm, Moses lived about 3,500 years ago. Perhaps you might be off a bit on the other 2 points also?

        • stillnotregistering

          do you think god cares more about the actual day of the week, or the fact that one worships him once a week?

          hint: it’s the latter

          • watchmannonthewall

            I spent a lot of hours a few years ago doing a study on the Sabbath. While we all know it is the one commandment of the 10 that almost no one keeps, it is the only one of the commandments which God says is a “sign” between Him and His people that they are to observe “forever” and that keeping it “sanctifies” us, or sets us apart as holy from others. (Ex. 31:13-16)

            A wedding ring is a “sign” one has a spouse one is either betrothed or wedded to. Obviously both Jesus and Paul kept the Sabbath in the NT, a “sign” of their commitment to the Father. (Lk 4:1 & Acts 17:1-2)

            Strong’s Expanded Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible states “the Sabbath was observed until the 4th century”, which is when the Romans changed it. Neither Jesus nor Paul changed it!! Roman Catholic officials have completely taken responsibility for changing the Sabbath and use the fact Protestants observe it as de facto evidence of their submission to following Catholic religious authority and NOT the Bible. I have no doubt most Protestants are ignorant of this fact.

            When John said in Revelation, he was in the spirit on “the LORD’s Day” he wasn’t talking about Sunday. Jesus is LORD of the Sabbath, not Sunday! Which is one reason Paul said in Col. 2:16-17 that we are not to let anyone judge us for observing the Sabbath(s), because these are a shadow of things TO COME (future tense, not past tense) but the SUBSTANCE is Christ.
            How is the substance of the Sabbaths Christ? Why would God tell us NOT to do things that testify of Jesus to the world? Do you know how doing what God said testifies of Jesus to the world?

            In Acts 20:7 where the NASB says, “And on the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul began talking to them, intending to depart the next day, and he prolonged his message until midnight” and then the guy who fell asleep fell out of the window, the original text doesn’t say, “And on the first day of the week…” It says “And on the first of the Sabbaths…”

            This is from Green’s Interlinear Greek New Testament Bible a word for word translation. So why did the editors of the NASB, and most other translations take it upon themselves to change the clear meaning of the text? It was because they also bought into the idea one day is as good as another and do not understand God says what He means and means what He says. He does not change!

            The text stated accurately tells us that Luke, who wrote Acts, was counting the seven Sabbaths between Passover and Shavuot/Pentecost as commanded to do in the OT. This is another sign Paul not only kept the Mosaic Law but taught it to Luke!! Paul was traveling to Jerusalem at this time in order to keep the OT commandment to present himself there before the LORD at Shavuot/Pentecost.

            Later in the book when Paul was being taken to Roman, Luke writes “now the fast was past”. What “fast” was he writing about that was past? The fast of the Day of Atonement. Luke gives us the timeframe of events in Acts based on God’s OT calendar, thereby confirming it was still in existence and not lost like it is today for most of the people who claim to follow God. Luke expected his readers to understand these things! How many people realize this?

            Who would motivate God’s people to disobey Him and accept lies that appear as Truth without one shred of evidence? Go look at Genesis 3, and pay atention to Paul and Peter’s warnings about wolves coming into the sheepfold to maim the sheep.

            By the way, Passover and Unleavened Bread, Shavuot, Atonement, and the Feast of Tabernacles are also Sabbaths. These ususally do not fall on the 7th day Sabbath. Keeping the Sabbath includes observing these days the way God said also.

            In Esther, Vashti was no longer allowed to come before the King when she refused to come on the day He called for her. Do you think God will do the same? I believe this story was put in scripture specifically as a warning to the King’s subjects! If one is ignorant, Jesus said he will be beaten with few stripes. But the one who sins willfully, has no hope.

            God said He would “cut off” anyone who does not keep His Sabbath(s)! (Ex. 31:14) Does He lie? Just another reason we need to read and study God’s Word for ourselves and not accept the doctrines of men!!

          • immxdmta4

            You explain this all very well and are very patient to type it out so clearly. I have studied the Bible (I’m a gentile Christian) on my own and had often wondered why Sabbath and Festivals et al were not kept by the church. I even tried to find a Messianic church to attend as I believed we should be obeying more of the OT than we do but I could not find anything. I had nobody to ask about any of this and already knew the answers I’d get from the Pastors in the churches I would go to. How does one woman, a gentile at that, even begin to attempt to obey what I believe was not done away with by God but by the Catholic Church (I grew up Roman Catholic and God delivered me out of that). It is overwhelming to say the least. I finally came to the conclusion that God knows my heart and I am forgiven in Christ and if I was right in what I thought was wrong with the church today then God would have to make a way for me to do things differently. Please understand I was not presuming upon God but I didn’t know what else to do with so much conflicting information. To put it in simplistic terms, I don’t know how to be a Jew. I hope you understand my meaning. And all by myself, no less! lol If you have any input I am grateful to read and possibly learn. Are you born a Jew or are you a Gentile who has studied and learned this and found a Messianic group?

          • watchmannonthewall

            I am a gentile, and have been raised in mostly Baptist taught congregations though the last one was non-denominational. I have read through the scriptures Genesis to Revelation many times and memorized many verses.

            I have only been on this journey, as a Messianic Hebrew for six years but I knew a lot of scripture before that so as I have learned things other passages of scripture that were related were triggered in my mind. If we put God’s Word there He can always pull it at His will!

            I’ve had a number of breakthroughs but the most important one you can have is to go to Him and tell Him that if He shows you what to do you will do it. Then do it! Don’t back off or waffle on your commitment. There will likely be times it will cost you much to walk in holiness, just like the ancients!

            You are going to have to be able stand on you own because this can be a pretty lonely walk, but isn’t always. However, I can’t tell you how rewarding it is to know our Father and His Son for who they really are!! They will provide! Just realize everyone today gets slandered and this includes those who you might look up on the internet. Move past any accusations and do your own due diligence. God will direct you.

            If you want to start from home, my wife and I watch Lion and Lamb Ministries every Friday night on the internet. Monte Judah is very knowledgeable, but I don’t agree with all he says, just like no one agrees with all I say. It’s OK. We don’t fight about it.

            The easiest place to find a local ministry that believes pretty much as I do is “testeverything.net” and click on the Connect button. You should find a group in your area but remember to do your due diligence and Test Everything! Never blindly accept what someone has to say! The hosts were some of my earliest teachers to bring all the things into a whole. I am still learning.

            Another source who does a great job of tying the OT and NT together is Tony Robinson at “restorationoftorah.com”. Click on Resources and then on Articles and Thematic Studies. Read the 5 recommended readings. After this begin a systematic study with Tony.

            This week we are studying Genesis 44:18 – 47:27 as well as a portion in the prophets and the New Testament. The following week’s study in Genesis is a foundational passage for understanding the New Testament.

            I hope this helps you and you are blessed in finding a good group of people who just want to live like our King said we are to live. Shalom!

          • immxdmta4

            Thank you! God bless.

          • Sun Rise

            Good stuff. I teach Mr. Robinson’s material to our kids. We listen to Steve Berkson, too. I like him because he hits on the “heart of the matter”.

          • watchmannonthewall

            I like Tony and his wife a lot. I have met them personally. He has a unique way of looking at the scriptures that has opened doors to my understanding of what God is saying to us, especially in these last days. As he says, “What has happened to the Fathers will happen to the children.” We should understand what happened to them! I’ll hve to check out Seve Berkson. Thanks for the heads up!

          • Sun Rise

            You have a good understand of this and express it well.

            It is my firm belief that anti-Semitism is still has a very strong hold on non-Jewish believers. And it goes back farther that Constantine. It was prophesied in 1 Kings, 12-13, when Judah and Israel separated. If one goes through the entire narrative, it bears a striking resemblance to what we see today.

          • watchmannonthewall

            Right. And it really goes back to the selling of Joseph, by his brothers, to the gentiles.

            My understanding is that the Jews believe, because the narrative of Judah and Tamar follows the Joseph sale story and Judah actually becomes the guarantor of Benjamins safe return to his father, Judah was the one who suggested selling Joseph as a slave. There is more evidence there but won’t elaborate.

            This is a two fold prophesy:
            On the one hand of the Jews, Judah’s descendants, selling Jesus off also to the gentiles, and second, that the Jews would become responsible, the guarantor, for bringing Ephraim, consisting of the northern 10 tribes, back to a proper relationship with the Father. This was done by preserving the OT writings in a nearly original state so we would have an accurate copy of all God said and did in antiquity and be able to find our way back to Him.

            Paul wrote in Romans 3 that the Jews have an advantage in everyway, but chiefly that unto them the oracles of God were given. His statement supports the above comment.

            Honestly, we have much to thank the Jews for! We wouldn’t know much if not for all they did between 1900 BC and 100 AD.

          • chris

            ROFLMAO all they did? lol thats easy, they did zero.

          • watchmannonthewall

            I have no idea what ROFLMAO means.

          • socalbeachdude

            Rolling On Floor Laughing My A$$ Off.

          • watchmannonthewall

            Thank you, was already sure it wasn”t anything good but now I will know the next time. God is not taken by surprise by anything!

            Chris apparently does not know God was well aware that there would be people just exactly like him far into the future; 2,500 years!

            “All who came upon them have devoured them; their adversaries have said, ‘We are not guilty in as much as they have sinned against the LORD [by killing Jesus-Yeshua], who is the habitation of righteousness, even the LORD, the hope of their fathers.'” (Jer. 50:7)

            i.e., They killed God in the flesh! But He already knew, 600 years before they did it, they WOULD! How did He respond?

            ” I will restore the fortune of Judah and the fortunes of Israel, and I will rebuild them as they were at the first!
            And I will cleanse them from ALL of their iniquity by which they have sinned aginst Me, and I will pardon ALL their iniquities by which they have sinned aginst Me, and by which they have trangressed against Me. And it shall be to ME a name of joy, praise, and glory before ALL the nations of the earth, which shall hear of ALL of the good that I do for them, and they shall fear and tremble because of ALL of the good and ALL of the peace that I make for it [Israel-Zion!)!” (Jer. 33:7-9)

            Man!! That is a God I can get into!!

            Too bad Chris doesn’t have a relationship with God or he wouldn’t talk as a fool, one who does not know God, and His plans!

          • Sun Rise

            Yes! And we had better watch our attitude, because we, the grafted-in ones, can be ungrafted even faster than the natural branches. One day, as I was sitting listening to Romans 11 being read, it just caught fire for me, and I could scarcely sit in my seat.

            Wanna see something REALLY exciting? Go on a map. Take a look at Samaria and Judea. Then look where the two meet. Answer me this: whose inheritance allotment does the middle point meet? I get goose bumps every time I look at it.

          • chris

            there is no such thing as aunty -semitism still falling for that idiocy i see. perhaps you should do some real studying. in psychology they teach that if the same thing happens to you where ever you go or whatever you do , its not others its you yourself that is the problem. if these people encounter the same reaction to them thru the centuries, they are doing something wrong, perhaps they need to change instead of pointing the finger at others.

          • Sun Rise

            May the Most High bless you and everyone one else who has posted on this blog as He sees fit.

          • chris

            gee that sounds like the usual threats the deluded love to make. what a waste of thinking and typing. your imaginary friend won’t answer. lol

          • Sun Rise

            He loves you, even you don’t love Him or believe Him. No threat. I bless you sincerely. How He chooses to do so is up to Him. He knows you best. 🙂

            Have a great evening.

          • chris

            lol lol he is no “he’. women create, men only donate. lol in any case your imaginary friend that you have a group delusion for can’t bestow anything, being its a cosmic zombie. still with the veiled threats. its hilarious how believers get off on knowing what their invisible friend thinks and does. more proof its all in your head, after all it mimics you. lol

      • ‘There are no good guys in Israel”

        You’re evil. Everyone, you say, in Israel is no good. Friggin disgusting slime.

        There are FIFTY SEVEN PERCENT (57%) Sephardics in Israel you horrible person.

        You dont know anything about Jesus. You are dumping on his blood brothers

        • Ingold Inglorion

          The “people” currently occupying Palestine have absolutely no blood relation with the ancient Hebrews or Jesus. Maybe they should return to Khazaria where they came from.

          • 57% Israel is ethnic, indigenous Sephardic.
            Deal with it, Israel hating troll

          • chris

            wrong again. gee you are embarrassing. lol the sephardic jews are from spain .

          • socalbeachdude

            100% correct, chris.

          • chris

            thank you.

          • Sephardic Jews are “J 1” Jews and their DNA is Israeli.

          • chris

            please stop with your ignorant comments. your knowledge is an absolute zero. lol

          • I am American Iroquois. I hope you return to your land and get out of mine.

          • chris

            really, when did you own the land? seeing as native americans had many tribes. and if thats true why are you a mad jewess/

      • Jerry Hamilton

        I have totally lucked out here. I don’t believe in god. But my imaginary friend Wallygod promised me Canada.
        It’s mine so you Canadians can clear off out.
        It’s mine, all mine.
        Stop looking at me like I’m strange.
        The jews get away with it.

        • chris

          lol lol can i have a piece of it too? lol

          • Jerry Hamilton

            No. You are a groyim, Your purpose is to grovel at my feet.
            I will be invading Germany soon and need a Cristian army.
            It will naturally be made to look like Germany are the aggressors.
            They usually fall for that one.
            That has to be worth a few billion a year.

          • chris

            nah i am neither goyim or christian i am a human being. and i never grovel!

          • Riiiiight, its Israels fault that Germany is doing nothing to stop their Muslim problem.
            Its not German apathy

      • Cindy Offenstein

        You say there are no good guys in Israel. Do you know them all? How do you know what you claim to be true? Remember what the bible says…by your words you will be justified and by your words you will be condemned. You will give an account for being a false witness. Fear G-d! You asked a question regarding the new covenant. According to my bible, starting in Jeremiah 31:31 it tells who the new covenant is made with and it aint the gentiles. Gentiles according to Romans can be grafted in. I suggest you get your bible out and pray for understanding, because clearly by your remarks you do not understand your bible.

    • In 2008, 79% Jewish people voted Obama. I was not one of them
      In 2012, Obama lost 10% and 69% voted for him. I was not one of them.
      ***
      ‘Like the song says “how do you like me now”, Obama is now saying to the American Jews.’

      HAHAHA, I agree. Sad, but the truth

  • chris12138

    ‘Member when this blog used to be about economics and monetary policy before Michael started sperging out about Israel everyday?

    • Richard O. Mann

      Our economic outlook is tied directly to Israel and the things happening in the Middle East. When the Arabic countries once again decide to declare war on Israel, this time with the UN’s blessings, things will get crazy really fast. Besides, the economy in the US is about to get a really big surprise after the first of the year. We can no longer borrow money from China to finance our debt paid life style here in the US. And without debt, this country has not hope of surviving very long.

      • socalbeachdude

        No “Arab” country has ever declared “war on Israel” – not once. Never.

        • LIZ THE SHIZ

          laughably false , please take your Ritilan so you can actually tell us what you really mean and not the voices in your head

          • socalbeachdude

            The 1967 Six Day War was started by Israel, attacked Egypt first, then Syria and Jordon. By the end of the 6th day, Israel captured the Sinai Peninsula from Egypt, Golan Heights from Syria, West Bank and East Jerusalem Jordon. Israel regards these captured lands as its territory, provided by God forever.

            As a result of this loss of Arab land, many hundred thousands of refugees were uprooted and expelled. Israel proceeded to settle its citizens into the captured land, hoping to make the war land prize permanent.

            But the war was started by Israeli as aggression, thus illegal under UN Charter. Peace treaties were never signed where the 3 Arab countries agreed to the loss of their land. This situation remains to now. All attempts by the UN Security Council to enforce its Charter, which states all land from wars of aggression illegal, were blocked by the United States.

            [As a historical note, the UN was created after WW2. During WW2 times stronger countries often launched wars to capture and plunder foreign land. This was not ‘illegal’. That’s just the way things worked since the beginning of human civilization. The UN founding charter was to ban such wars of aggression by making them illegal – itself being the setter of international laws. The purpose is to prevent the starting of another world war, or smaller aggression wars that can lead to bigger ones. Once found illegal the UN can authorize imposition all kinds of punitive measured on the country involved. It can even not recognize the state or borders. Ban trade of all kinds including military.]

            The UN Security Council have just decided the borders after the 1967 Six Day War illegal. It will soon decide what to do about it – redraw the borders, assign ownership, create new states, etc.

            If it almost impossible for Israel to defy the Security Council decisions. Because the permanent members have approved it, while majority of non-permanent members approved.

    • ALWAYSTOMORROW

      I think he realized how bad he was at predicting economic outcomes so he chose another path.

      • socalbeachdude

        Michael is actually not wrong at all as to his economic predictions but just off a bit on the timing of the GEB (Global Economic Bubble) imploding and it is now the worst it has even been in the history of mankind and will implode.

        The World’s Most Dangerous Systemic Risks

        We are currently experiencing the biggest, global-scale, financial bubble in history (the “mother of all bubbles” or MOB) and this is not a one-dimensional bubble like the “Crash of 1929”, the 2000 dot com bubble or the 2008 housing bubble: the MOB is simultaneously present in all asset classes: stocks, bonds, and real estate. Because of these properties, the MOB is both quantitatively and qualitatively in a different category than any previous bubble.

        The driver behind this enormous bubble is central bank intervention that has been sustained since 2008 on an unprecedented scale when viewed by the aggregate activity of the world’s central banks: the US Federal Reserve, the European Central Bank (ECB), the Bank of Japan (BOJ), the Bank of England (BOE) and the Swiss National Bank (SNB). What also makes the MOB categorically different, besides its size and ubiquity, is its vulnerability to a massive implosion due to inherent structural defects

        https://medium.com/deepconnections/a-synthesis-of-the-worlds-most-dangerous-systemic-risks-for-the-week-ending-october-14-2016-192b329f5b2b#.w17rswoyn

        • ALWAYSTOMORROW

          Timing is everything. Predicting the housing bubble of 2008 every day since 1975 would have been of no value.

          • Sun Rise

            Noah warned people for 100 years. It’s not unprecedented. We all know how that ended…

      • Mr.Cipher

        How’d you’re presidential election prediction work out?

        • ALWAYSTOMORROW

          Similar to Mikes RED A!! ERT prediction, difference being I admit when I am wrong.

          • Mr.Cipher

            The definition of RA is:

            [A signal or warning that a critical situation is developing.]

            Which most agree with regarding the economy, debt, etc.

            Your prediction that Hillary would win was flat out wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

            A Chinese proverb comes to mind
            People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. 🙂

          • ALWAYSTOMORROW

            Thank you for proclaiming my prediction “Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. ” as I did the day that I was wrong.

            I hope your health insurance rates have another sizeable Increase for 2017 Mr. Cipher.

            I think I will go for a walk with Mrs. ALWAYSTOMORROW.

  • Richard O. Mann

    It really is coming to a head just as predicted in the Bible. All the world is turning against Israel. Before this could happen, Israel has to exist. The greatest miracle of the 20th century was the rebirth of Israel as a nation. The prophetic clock is ticking.

    • socalbeachdude

      Israel must exist as a state which follows international law rather than as a rogue bellicose warmongering pariah state which which has been the case for most of the time between 1948-2016.

    • Bill G Wilminton NC

      Tick Tock Tick Tock

      Shalom

      • ALWAYSTOMORROW

        Where have I heard that before?

        Tick Tock Tick Tock. Sounds familiar.

    • GSOB

      Titus 3:5-6
      This is the Father’s best to us.

  • Seen2013

    “So instead of this “peace process” being the solution, it is actually going to cause the Middle East to explode in violence.”

    The reason Palestinians are promoted to see the chair of OPEC Saudi Arabia is that Saudi Arabian is the predominant leader of the Arabian Alliance who among other things wants Iran, Israel, and Syria dismantled and vulnerable to Arabian Alliance’s regional ambitions.
    By old school measurements, deficit to debt spending accounts for over 80% of GDP, and historians estimates the point of no return is 93% of GDP; the Arabian Alliance then uses OPEC Treaty to leverage US foreign Policy in the Middle East.
    It’s very simple either repudiate the debt, reduce deficit spending to 0, or militarily destroy Israel, Iran, and Syria destroying the US’s best ally in the Middle East and crossing the Russo-Sino red-lines backed treaty granting their pledge of support even under threat of world war or nuclear war teeth.

    Need I remind people the generic definition of a World War is a war expanding 3 or more continents: Europe, Asia, Africa is 3 Continents, and Russo-Sino have alliance pacts extending to South America such as if Venezuela hadn’t economically imploded their agreement to install Chinese Tactical Warheads between the end of 2016-mid-2017 would unlikely to have taken a delay.

    No, this is not a peace agreement. It’s geopolitical maneuvering and balance of power geopolitics. Same old b/s just a different era.

  • socalbeachdude

    It is way past time for the reign of Israeli terrorism in Palestine to end. The terrorist tactics are all coming from ISRAEL which is the party that started the current UNILATERAL BOMBING OF GAZA against which the people of Gaza are attempting to defend themselves.

    The people of what is now Israel have been TERRORIZING THE PALESTINIANS ever since the Balfour Declaration was created back in 1917.

  • socalbeachdude

    ‘Israel can’t be Jewish AND democratic’: Jerusalem fury as John Kerry returns to the attack on settlements and defense of ‘two state solution’

    The U.S.’s top diplomat and Israel’s prime minister clashed angrily on Wednesday over West bank settlements and Middle East peace. Benjamin Netanyahu angrily accused John Kerry of ‘lecturing’ Israel on ‘the importance of peace’ after a lengthy speech in which the outgoing Secretary of State demanded an end to settlements in the West Bank. Kerry said that a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict ‘is the only way’ to ensure ‘just and lasting peace’ in the Mideast. A two-state solution is now in ‘serious jeopardy,’ he argued. Hope for peace is being destroyed on both sides and Israel is ‘increasingly cementing a one-state reality that most people do not actually want.’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4069172/Kerry-speak-Middle-East-peace-Wednesday-State-Department.html

  • socalbeachdude

    Donny Gets Testy…

    ‘Smooth transition – NOT!’ Trump clobbers Obama for his ‘disdain and disrespect’ of Israel and urges the Jewish state to ‘stay strong’

    ‘Doing my best to disregard the many inflammatory President O statements and roadblocks,’ Trump tweeted. ‘Thought it was going to be a smooth transition – NOT!’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4070836/Trump-clobbers-Obama-disdain-disrespect-Israel-urges-Jewish-state-stay-strong-makes-1990s-teen-slang-great-NOT-jab.html

  • GSOB

    Abraham’s son Ishmael was not of the chosen line and since Abraham’s grandson Esau was not of the chosen line, a more accurate placement of the division of Jews from Gentiles would be with Jacob,
    whose name was changed by God to Israel (Genesis 32:28).

  • socalbeachdude

    Kerry harshly condemns Israeli settler activity as an obstacle to peace

    Secretary of State John F. Kerry on Wednesday harshly criticized Israeli settlements in the West Bank, saying their growth threatens to destroy the viability of a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and that the United States was obliged to allow passage of a U.N. resolution condemning the activity in order to preserve the possibility of peace.

    Kerry noted that the number of Israelis living in settlements has grown significantly and that their outposts are extending farther into the West Bank — “in the middle of what, by any reasonable definition, would be the future Palestinian state.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/kerry-address-middle-east-peace-process-amid-deep-us-israel-strains/2016/12/28/d656e5fa-cd0a-11e6-b8a2-8c2a61b0436f_story.html

  • GSOB

    What was God’s purpose in separating Jews from Gentiles?

    God’s desire for the Jews was that they would go and teach the Gentiles about Him.

    Israel was to be a nation of priests, prophets, and missionaries to the world.

    God’s intent was for Israel to be a distinct people, a nation who pointed others toward God and His promised provision of a Redeemer, Messiah and Savior.

    • socalbeachdude

      So, you are saying “God” was a RACIST who wanted an undemocratic apartheid state to exist? Really?

      • GSOB

        You hear it the way you want to hear it, and then you proclaim your ignorance. The way of peace you have not known…..
        yet

        • socalbeachdude

          Peace means Israel not unilaterally and pugnaciously attacking its citizens and neighbors which they have been doing systematically for nearly 7 decades.

          • GSOB

            Ephesians 2:13-16
            Isaiah 9:6

            Colossians 3:11
            Here there is no Greek or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave, or free, but Christ is all and is in all.

            Colossians 3:15
            Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, for to this you were called as members of one body. And be thankful.

      • Sun Rise

        Actually, anybody can live there. You, me, everyone on this here on this board… provided we submit to the Landowner’s constitution (Torah). Sadly the vast majority there now don’t. What we see unfolding, is God getting ready to clean up His Land and His people. No human organization unilaterally created the current state of Israel. God allowed the current state of Israel to be raised up for this day and age. Admittedly the government is currently not righteous, irredardless, how other nations and people treat it will determine how they will fare in the days to come.

        Look, whether you or I believe this is irrelevant. He will have His way, and His Word never returns void. Period. For instance, instead of cursing Israel and the Jewish people by saying Israel and the Jewish people (not all of course, but a lot do, especially the survivors and their families) focuses too much on the Holocaust and has a chip on its shoulder in order to move forward, I bless them with the ability and desire to forgive and move on, so they can finally move forward (by the way, I personally practice this, too, in my own life i.e. if someone cuts me off on the road — I bless them with gaining the awareness of their actions and safety for anyone driving near them, instead of cursing them out).

        • socalbeachdude

          Nope. All that matters is the RULE OF INTERNATIONAL LAW as to the State of Israel and the State of Palestine.

          • Sun Rise

            Mr. Dude (may I call you Mr. Dude), I appreciate your sense of justice. It’s just that it seems misguided, and a bit naive. Besides the fact that Muslims can’t be trusted, as lying for the honour of and victory for Islam is highly regarded, there are also forces at play of which you appear not be be aware. One of the greatest tactics in war, is for an opponent to convince the other that their opponent does not exist.

            The issues plaguing the ME are millennia old, and multi-dimensional. These issues will not be resolved by any human being and woefully inadequate human laws and courts.

          • socalbeachdude

            Israelis are far more UNTRUSTED than are the people of Arabic descent in the Middle East.

            By Way of Deception – Motto of the Israeli Mossad

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_Way_of_Deception

    • rentslave

      Israel is distinct all right.They allow sports betting there,but won’t let the gentiles have it in the USA outside of Las Vegas.

  • David_R59

    Rest-assured, God is watching.
    Just look at what has happened to anyone attempting to divide Israel or give away land eg. Ariel Sharon.
    These people are going to bring down a huge curse on themselves and their respective countries. It won’t take long; perhaps just a few days.

    • socalbeachdude

      Israel will have no support whatsoever for any bellicose pugnacity from anywhere in the world, and Netanyahu is about to be criminally indicted for corruption in Israel.

      • Israel and the Jews are not supposed to have the support of this world.

        • Gay Veteran

          really? then they can give back all the American tax dollars they received

          • Bill G Wilminton NC

            So Can The Arabs….

            Shalom

          • Gay Veteran

            NO American tax dollars to foreign countries.
            you Israel Firsters can send YOUR money

          • Bill G Wilminton NC

            Israel Does Not Need Our Financial Aid !

            Shalom

          • Sun Rise

            Agreed, but they should act like it.

          • Bill G Wilminton NC

            ha ha you are right

            Shalom

          • Gay Veteran

            did “god” tell you that?

          • socalbeachdude

            That’s nice. Then why it is getting $10 million a day in aid from the US?

            America Making ‘Israel’ Great Again?

            US Pays $10 Million A Day For Next 10 Years

            http://rense.com/general96/makingISRgreat.htm

          • Them and the 100 other countries that you Jew haters never b’tch about 😉

          • Gay Veteran

            wow, you sound like a liberal.
            someone disagrees with you and you start screaming names
            sorry darling, but that “Jew haters” BS doesn’t work anymore.
            just like the politically correct BS doesn’t work anymore

          • You’re a Jew hater and you have been for quite some time.
            (Not that I give a damn)
            However, I never hear you liars complain about 100 other countries that we give billions to.
            Its only Israel you have your a$$ in a bind over.
            PS: Jew hater.

          • Gay Veteran

            you can stomp your little hooves all you want, screaming “Jew hater” doesn’t work anymore

            “…I never hear you liars complain about 100 other countries that we give billions to….”

            then you haven’t been paying attention, or more likely lying

          • GV: You have been whining about Israel for YEARS.
            Why?
            Because you are aJew hater.

          • socalbeachdude

            Condemning CRIMES COMMITTED BY ISRAEL certainly does not make anyone a “Jew hater” at all.

          • Israel is fighting back against Islamic terrorists. Good for them.

          • Gay Veteran

            you can stomp your little hooves all you want, screaming “Jew hater” doesn’t work anymore.
            that is in the garage heap, along with political correctness

        • socalbeachdude

          So, then exactly why are they getting billions of dollars of US military aid and funding?

          • You mean Iran?
            Iran who received a US plane with $400 million in cash?

          • socalbeachdude

            America Making ‘Israel’ Great Again?

            US Pays $10 Million A Day For Next 10 Years

            http://rense.com/general96/makingISRgreat.htm

          • America Economic/Foreign Aid (Billions)

            Afghanistan 4533.51
            Egypt 1566.24
            Jordan 1211.83
            West Bank/Gaza 1007.73
            Ethiopia 686.53
            South Sudan 618.74
            Malawi 571.18
            Uganda 541.93
            Nigeria 518.84
            Iraq 444.81
            Tanzania 430.66

            And more.

            When Jew haters start concentrating on ALL of these places, then I will listen. Until then, you’re just Israel/JEW haters

    • max gon

      C’mon stop that nonsense of God. If there is one God prove.

      • Written about 4K years ago about ‘future glory of Zion’

        Psalms 83:4

        “Come,” they say, “let us destroy them as a nation, so that Israel’s name is remembered no more.”

        You fulfill this prophecy.

        • max gon

          C’mon you could do better. Real evidence to prove that God exist is what is needed, not fairy tales from that fiction book called the Bible.

          • Well, the fiction book just showed you up honey

          • max gon

            If you believe there is a God, just prove it. Not with nonsense words, prove it with facts, with material evidence.

          • JC Teecher

            My God tells me, through His Word, to never get into an argument with the devil, so good luck finding someone to try to convince you of something you never will accept, but apparently you do accept that there is a devil.

          • Bill G Wilminton NC

            Real Evidence That A Higher Power (GOD) Does NOT Exist Is What Is Needed

            Shalom

          • mtntrek3

            The thing is Bill……. to believe as they do, “no God”; is akin to believing a tornado can tear through an automobile parts yard and create a functional/ drivable automobile. There must be an all knowing, all powerful Creator involved. Their theories are silliness.

      • GSOB

        Acts 2:38

  • GSOB

    “The sweetness of such contemplations will often be mingled with bitterness, while we compare the Scriptures with the state of the world and the church, or even with that of our own hearts.”

  • Robert Peters

    psalm 60 & 108 says that the west bank gaza and Jerusalem belong to the God of Israel….period

    • socalbeachdude

      Religious books have no weight of law whatsoever.

      • James Staten

        Life’s Only Question: What will you do with that dead Jew who got up and walked out of that Tomb? Your eternal destiny depends on Him. 1st Corinthians 15:1-4

        • GSOB

          Galatians 3:27

          • James Staten

            Amen

      • GSOB

        We realize that law is not enacted for the righteous, but for the lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinful, for the unholy and profane, for killers of father or mother, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, for homosexuals, for slave traders and liars and perjurers and for anyone else who is averse to sound teaching that agrees with the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.…

    • Sun Rise

      Exactly. He’s the Landowner, everyone else is the tenant. If the tenant does not abide by the rules and regs, AKA the Constitution, they have been and will be evicted, irrespective of who they are.

      • socalbeachdude

        “God” is not a legal person.

        • Sun Rise

          On the contrary, He is a VERY legal person. His word is a legally binding document. You should be grateful He made it possible for your punishment for breaking His law has been paid in full, because you are important to Him. All you need to do is accept it and choose to learn how to obey His law out of love and respect (like you would your parents).

          • socalbeachdude

            Laughably false. You are merely making a RELIGIOUS ARGUMENT which has no merit whatsoever in a world that is governed by LAWS.

          • Guest

            Joel 3; Amos 7:17. Don’t say you haven’t been warned.

  • socalbeachdude

    Kerry Backs 2-State Solution Blocking ‘Greater Israel’ In Scathing Attack On Israel’s ‘Settler’ Agenda

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/28/kerry-defends-us-role-in-uns-israel-censure-amid-backlash.html

  • socalbeachdude

    America Making ‘Israel’ Great Again?

    US Pays $10 Million A Day For Next 10 Years

    http://rense.com/general96/makingISRgreat.htm

  • popcorn peanuts beer here

    No deal unless Israel can re-build the third Temple.

    • socalbeachdude

      A TRUMP TOWER in Jerusalem would be a vastly superior thing to build!

  • James Staten

    As the old saying goes we don’t learn from history. America in truth has been weighed in the balances and been found wanting. http://grassrootconservative.blogspot.com/

  • Tea P Patriot

    Wow, why Kerry and Obama would want to place themselves on the Israeli “Enemies of the State” list is beyond me.

  • James Staten
  • autofixer

    Can you imagine how the media and the socialists would have gone insane if G.W. Busch had set the world on fire on his way out?

  • MDS

    NOW it’s more apparent why Israel is encouraging Jews to leave France.
    Looks like all hell really IS about to break loose there.

  • GSOB

    ‘You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.

  • Judah

    This is all Bible prophecy unfolding. I don’t believe there will ever be “peace in the Middle East” largely because the Jewish people that occupy Israel are imposters! You can’t claim to be the real Jews, steal the land in 1948 from the Palestinians, and then expect to have a future of peace and prosperity. The Bible says in the Book of Revelations that those Jewish people are the Synagogue of Satan. Until the real Jews are able to return and reclaim their land, there will never be peace there.

  • Bill Blais

    Palestinian State is called Jordan.

    • socalbeachdude

      The term PALESTINE is thousands of years old and was first used by the Greeks to describe the region which Israel now mostly occupies.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine

      • Bill Blais

        I am sure you realize Israel was there before the Greeks.

  • Steven Deakins

    His last dirty deed is to try and bring judgment on us before leaving!

  • Alleged Comment

    IGNORE the negro. He is not even a legal sitting US president and should of been arrested on January 20th, 2008

    What is wrong with you folks? You do not ENFORCE law anymore on your leaders. Only the common folk of which your leaders all make laws for.

    They are not GAWDS. They are your SERVANTS and a servant is NOT higher than their MASTERS which is you.

    You created them and authorized them to carry out YOUR Constitution. You can destroy them but you are letting them destroy YOU.

    • socalbeachdude

      There is no such phrase as “should of” and the proper phrase is “should have.”

      • Alleged Comment

        Bad habit of mine. Sometimes I catch it sometimes I don’t. Onomatopoeia pun habit.

  • Elainee Perkins

    ISRAEL should not go to any of their meetings; And they should not agree to any of their resolutions. Let them give the fake Palestinians a state in Jordan. Jordan is the Arab state. Jordan and Saudi Arabia have plenty of land for the PA. ISRAEL does not.

    iSRAEL SHOULD REFUSE to do anything UNTIL Trump goes in.
    The reason that Obama and Kerry are doing this now and putting a rush on everything, it is to keep Donald Trump from helping to solve the Jewish/Arab problem.

    • socalbeachdude

      Trump has no say as to what the UN decides as to the State of Palestine and the State of Israel.

  • socalbeachdude

    PROPOSAL TO MAKE ISRAEL PALESTINE AGAIN…

    With the two-state solution a distant dream, Palestinians ask if it’s time to push for a one-state solution

    For nearly three decades, governments around the world have insisted that the best way to end the most intractable conflict in the Middle East is to trade land for peace, creating an independent Palestinian state alongside Israel in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

    But these days, as Palestinians see prospects for the so-called two-state solution disintegrating, a growing number are mulling over a provocative alternative: a single binational state from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean.

    The notion is the equivalent of a demographic Trojan horse, forcing Israel either to give Arab residents full voting rights — and jeopardize the Jewish identity upon which Israel was created in 1948 — or risk becoming an apartheid state under permanent sanction by the rest of the world.

    U.S. Secretary of State John F. Kerry warned of the risk Wednesday in what he described as a “fundamental reality” for the two sides to consider: “If the choice is one state, Israel can either be Jewish or democratic — it cannot be both — and it won’t ever really be at peace.”

    For Palestinians, the renewed calls to consider a one-state solution come as the peace process is at one of its lowest ebbs. Negotiations have been mothballed for three years, Israeli settlements in the West Bank are under steady expansion, and there are continuing calls by Israeli politicians to annex part of the West Bank.

    http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-palestinian-one-state-2016-story.html

  • Gave

    0bama is personally cursed, not America.
    0bama is not America – he does not represent America anymore.
    Israel ain’t moving and nothing is changing anything.
    UN is a paper tiger. Anything it decides is paper stuff – and without U.S. support, means NOTHING.

    • socalbeachdude

      The UN will send in peace keeping troops to be sure that illegally occupied territories are cleared of Israel occupation and interference.

      • Gave

        That’s gonna be war.
        That’s the objective: CHAOS
        Enabled by Jihadi O.
        But who’s leading the coalition?

        • socalbeachdude

          PEACE is not “war” at all, and at this stage Israel wouldn’t dare attempt to attack anyone regardless as to what the UN rules and moves to enforce.

          • Gave

            America first, ok?

  • JC Teecher

    Them ole mean communist ruskies, they better get there ole stone cold hearts a prayin’ for salvation.

    Actually there are many Christian peoples in Russia, but they do not make much noise as they will be silenced to death.

  • socalbeachdude

    Benjamin Netanyahu faces criminal investigation over fraud and bribery claims as Israeli PM dismisses ‘nonsense accusations’

    Police have been looking into allegations made about the Israeli Prime Minister for the last nine months and have now asked permission to launch a full probe.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4068210/Benjamin-Netanyahu-faces-criminal-investigation-fraud-bribery-claims-Israeli-PM-dismisses-nonsense-accusations.html

  • socalbeachdude

    Israeli Viciousness After Friday’s UN Vote – Stephen Lendman

    Every day is Kristallnacht for long-suffering Palestinians, brutalized mercilessly the way Hitler treated Jews.

    On Christmas eve, Israeli soldiers attacked a peaceful Santa Claus march with tear gas, rubber-coated steel bullets and beatings.

    The event was organized under the banner “Terrorism and Occupation are Two Sides of the Same Coin.” Participants demanded Israeli checkpoints be opened so Christians could celebrate the holiday unobstructed at Bethlehem’s Nativity Church in the Old City.

    On Sunday, Palestinian Detainees’ Committee head Issa Qaraqe said Palestinian political prisoner As’ad al-Wali, aged 70, died under circumstances remaining unclear.

    He was incarcerated for building a home on his own land without a near-impossible-to-get permit. Was her murdered by torture, neglect or other brutal treatment?He was prominently involved in activism against Israel’s illegal Golan occupation.

    On Christmas day, Israeli soldiers ransacked West Bank Palestinian homes, terrifying their occupants, traumatizing young children.

    They opened fire on Gaza farmers in their fields threatening no one. It’s a common practice, along with shooting Palestinian children for target practice and attacking fishermen at sea.

    Since October 2015, Israeli security forces murdered over 265 defenseless Palestinians, brutalizing, arresting and imprisoning hundreds more for political reasons alone.

    http://rense.com/general96/ISRvicious.htm#sthash.mvnF28vk.dpuf

  • southafricanamerican

    Psalm 2

    • Sun Rise

      Amen!

  • ThomasThePaine

    Here is a foolproof plan for peace in Israel: Blow that cursed Dome of the Rock off the face of the Earth. . . Then, use the bulldozers to push every so-called “palestinian” back to Egypt and Jordan where they belong. . .

    Problem Solved!

    • socalbeachdude

      Why the bellicosity and warmongering from you?

      • ThomasThePaine

        Because the only good Muslime is a DEAD Muslime. . .
        And, there is not now, nor there has ever been any such a thing as a “Palestinian”. There has never been a country named Palestine. There has never been a capital to country named Palestine. There has never been a currency of country named Palestine.
        The so called “palestinians” (capital omitted intentionally) are an invented people, created by the usual left wing suspects after 1967. Prior to that date, Gaza was part of Egypt and the West Bank was part of Jordan: Your so called “palestinians” are Egyptian and Jordanian rejects. Notice that neither Egypt nor Jordan want their former lands back. . .
        The name Palestina was created by Emperor Hadrian in 135 AD as a punishment to the Jews for their constant rebellions against the Roman Empire.
        Hadrian ordered to strike the word Judea from all maps and replace it with the word Palestina, meaning “Land of the Philistines”, the ancient enemies of the Israelites, who by the way, had ceased to exist over a thousand years earlier.
        The common left wing myth, that the so called “palestinans” are the descendants of the Philistines, is easily disproved: The Philistines were not Semites. They were referred to as “the uncircumcised” and they were more than likely Greeks.
        I you really want to stick to history, the only real Palestinians are the Jews!

        • socalbeachdude

          Again, why your hate of people of the Islamic faith which is nearly identical to the Christian faith?

          • ThomasThePaine

            Read some history. . . Then, look what at what those goat flukers do to every country they invade!
            Today’s Christians at their worse, are merely annoying. Islam on the other hand, is the worst cancer EVER to infest humanity and MUST be eradicated at ANY cost!
            Outlaw islam – Nuke Mecca!

          • socalbeachdude

            What utterly hateful and bogus nonsense.

          • ThomasThePaine

            Precisely, what is incorrect about my previous statement?
            The real question is why someone with a moniker like yours insists on defending the the most oppressive political/theocratic system ever imposed on humanity?
            Do you realize that over 80% of Muslime women had their clitoris cut off to prevent them from enjoying sex?
            Outlaw Islam – Nuke Mecca!

          • socalbeachdude

            What utterly bogus assertions.

          • ThomasThePaine

            As I knew, you are incapable of refuting ANY of my points. . .
            You are just another Muslime fraud!
            The only good Muslime is a DEAD Muslime. . .
            Outlaw Islam – Nuke mecca!

  • iris

    Part of the “Israel problem” according to the global elites, is that they want to maintain national sovereignty as a Jewish state, which is what was defined in 1947, before statehood came about in 1948. The global elites only want nations which will abdicate their sovereignty to the one world system, even though Israel is the most progressive country in the ME. They never intended or imagined that Israel would still be standing now, and they’re not liking it, especially since the word Jewish is involved, as there is to be a one world religion, as well. That, in conjunction with the oil cartel in the ME, which dictates how other countries can drill, because of the dividends being reaped by the oil families in the U.S. and abroad, which have an understanding with them, (think price fixing in grocery chains) has been very involved in this scenario. The greenies are unwitting pawns in this. If one tracked the $, the main backers of those who don’t want further oil production in the U.S., are probably the oil rich families who are in collusion with the ME cartel.

    • socalbeachdude

      False.

  • Roy Fredrichsen

    John Kerry is trying to fan the flames of hatred just enough to start World War Three with his cock-eyed plans for another country. THE HERO OF VIETNAM only knows how to make trouble for everyone else..

    • socalbeachdude

      Nope and your assertion is utter nonsense.

      • Roy Fredrichsen

        Oh! Boy! I can smell Marijuana on your breath, no wonder you are hallucinating and in dream world.

        • socalbeachdude

          Why make such utterly bogus assertions? What on earth is your problem dealing with the actual facts?

  • Chris Heng

    Does anyone have a list of the 70 Nations??
    Thank you…

  • Gene

    This meeting of 70 nations is a date with destiny. Note: Jerusalem was placed back in the Jews possession after the six day war in 1967 which was a Jubilee after the Belfour Declaration in 1917 and remained in the Jews possession for a Jubilee until the UN Security Councils resolution, making the Temple mount a gentile possession. Genesis chapter 10 reveals there are 70 nations which sprung from Noah’s grandsons. During the feast of tabernacles the priest performed 70 sacrifices for the sins of the 70 nations. God said He would bring ALL the nations to Jerusalem for judgement. This meeting of 70 nations will be significant. Nations beware of their intentions.

  • Gary Pakes

    I am glad this creation of a Palestinian state is a product of the United Nations rather than just a U.S.-pushed thing. Israel has been a country for many years; now, let the Palestinians have their own country. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict has gone on so very long, that this work of the UN is well overdue. Another positive achievement of international cooperation!

  • watchmannonthewall

    A very interesting article Michael. Particularly so since your title has about 70 nations participating in this conference.
    As you probably know, scripture records the names of 70 descendants from Noah and his sons in Genesis 10. This would have included the population of the entire world at that time, meaning all the nations of the world were represented within these 70 descendants. Is this all that is needed for the prophesy of Zechariah 12:3, which speaks of all the nations of the world being gathered together against Jerusalem, to be fulfilled? or do we need all the nations particiapating in the UN for a fulfillment?
    Also, another passage of scripture states God divided the nations according to the sons of Israel. Genesis 46 lists all the sons of Israel that were going to Egypt as 69, but this doesn’t included Jacob himself, who also went to Egypt, which would then equal 70.
    We also know at the Feast of Tabernacles, through the festival, there are 70 bulls offered on the altar and it is taught in Judaism that these 70 bulls represent a sacrifice for each of the nations of the world.
    We also know that just before Messiah returns all, or at least most, of the nations of the world will be allied against the King of Israel to fight Him at the Battle of Armageddon. This battle is preceded by 3.5 year Great Tribulation which kicks off at or near the shutting down of the altar so the morning and evening sacrifices, as proscribed by the Moasaic Law, are not allowed to be offered.
    (As an aside, I think it quite possible the abomination that causes the desolation of God’s people is that many of His people support the shutting down of, what appears to be, a properly dedicated altar to Him! Many of His people erroneously believe Jesus did away with all the sacrifices, not understanding that they will still be offered in the Millennial Kingdom and the only reason they are not offered now is that there is no Temple, just as they were not offered during the Babylonian captivity! Paul offered sacrifices 28-29 years after the resurrection in Acts 21:23-24. Daniel states it is due to the transgression of the saints that they are given into the anti-christ’s hand! Dan. 8:9-14)
    The division of the Land of Israel is far more likely to lead to war than to result in peace. “He that meddles in the affairs of another is as one who takes a dog by the ears.” The world has decided to meddle in affairs that do not involve it and the dog is going to bite both the right and left arms of those so exposed.
    We may be very close to seeing Israel decide that since the world wants to impose a false peace on it, they might as well call upon the God of Israel to protect and deliver them from wicked men, and they could decide to set up this altar as a way of calling upon Him and in defiance of the nations of the world! it appears God will answer this call by first, purifying His people, and then by judging the World!
    The times, they are very exciting! We shall see if we are close to Messiah’s return!

  • KeithinKy

    Bottom line is; Art.II, sec.2, cl.2, states “unless two thirds of the senate ratify” this “treaty”, then it’s just another expensive Obama vacation. How are the golf courses there in a socialist country?

  • lizzie dw

    Has anybody looked at the map? Israel is getting bigger and bigger and Palestine is getting smaller and smaller. This is what is “bothering” people. Where are the Palestinians supposed to go when their houses are bulldozed down – and remember Rachel Carey(sp)? She got bulldozed down along with a Palestinian house. I think it is time for 2 states, if for nothing else than that no more Palestinian houses will be bulldozed down and the homeowners left with nowhere to go.

    • Sun Rise

      They can go to Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon….

  • NobodysaysBOO

    Count on an Isralie jew attack on this conference or any other law enforcing good behaviour of the jews. NEVER happen unless their new next door neighbors in Syria the RUSSIANS blow them away.

  • Ingold Inglorion

    The palestinian state was created the same time Israel was created. I’m not sure what they are planning on discussing here.

    • PJ London

      You are absolutely right,, the only thing that has changed is the illegal occupation of Palestinian state by Israelis.
      return to the 1948 borders and all will be forgiven.

  • Zaphod Braden

    Your CHRISTian ancestors held their opinions of Jews for a REASON …
    What the Jews think of JESUS
    “As for Christianity, there is a dispute among Halachic authorities, but the vast majority consider it idolatry as well. Islam, on the other hand, is not considered idolatry.”
    So according to their own Rabbis, the Jews should “put to death” Christians for being “idol worshippers”

    On the attitude towards gentiles–with sources
    1. Killing gentiles and saving their lives
    1.1) In principle, every person practicing idolatry (whether a gentile or a Jew) should be
    put to death by a court of law. Idolatry is attributing divinity to any object (physical
    or spiritual) other than the one and only G-d, whether this is done through ritual
    (such as prayer, offerings of incense, or the like) or by a mere statement of faith.
    Several contemporary religions, such as Hinduism, Buddhism, and Zoroastrianism,
    are undoubtedly considered idolatry. As for Christianity, there is a dispute among
    Halachic authorities, but the vast majority consider it idolatry as well. Islam, on the
    other hand, is not considered idolatry.
    In a situation (such as we have now) where there is no Jewish court of law which
    can sentence people to death, to corporal punishment, or even to the fines prescribed
    by the Torah, and which therefore can not judge a man for the sin of idolatry:
    It is permissible (and even commanded) for anyone to kill idolatrous Jews (and
    those Jews, including atheists and agnostics, who publicly reject the divine authority
    of Halacha) anywhere and anytime it is possible. However, contemporary Halachic
    authorities have ruled that this law doesn’t apply nowadays.
    While there is no obligation to kill idolatrous gentiles (nor, in fact, any gentiles who
    don’t obey the 7 Noachide commandments), it is nevertheless forbidden to save their
    lives. The exact Halachic status of a gentile who doesn’t practice idolatry as defined
    above (and who also can be considered as fulfilling in practice the other Noachide
    commandments), yet who declares himself to be an atheist or agnostic is not entirely
    clear, though from some sources it appears that he too should be considered an
    idolater.
    Sources:
    Maimonides, Laws of Repentance chapter 3
    Maimonides, Laws of Idolatry chapter 2
    Maimonides, Laws of Kings chapter 8
    Tosephta on Tractate Bava Metziah (Leiberman edition) 2:33
    Maimonides, Laws of Murder and Saving Lives chapter 4

  • ddearborn

    Hmmm

    This state is deliberately deceptive and dishonest on its face because of course 70 countries are meeting to create a formal Palestinian state that was set aside for the Palestinian people in 1948 by the UN. There is absolutely, positively no one suggesting that the land set aside for Israel in 1948 should be taken way. Only that the land israel has stolen since 1948 must be returned.

    here is the quote by the author:

    ” In Israel, there is a tremendous amount of concern that whatever is agreed upon at this conference will immediately be used as the basis for a UN Security Council resolution that would permanently divide the land of Israel and create a Palestinian state.”

    No land beyond Israel’s legally defined 1948 borders are the “land of Israel” And only the land beyond those borders are under discussion. Palestine as a whole was permanently divided into 2 parts in 1948 in an agreement that was duly accepted by the Israeli government at the time. One state to create Israel, one state set aside to create Palestine. Both were required to respect the rights and claims of the indigenous Arab population. An agreement that Israel has broken relentless since 1948, which goes to the heart of the problems in Palestine today. Namely Israel has stolen land that does not belong to it, and refuses to give it back.

  • FreddyB

    WTF, the creation of a Palestine state? Do they not mean getting back the land stolen by the Israelis? Oh right, can’t say anything bad about the poor Jewish nation as they annex land in the attempt to build the Greater Israel they think is their birthright. Sorry but there is ZERO real historical proof that they ever had any land for themselves and with he way they are treating the Palestine people you can see why these were a people kicked out of over 100 lands over their history.
    People need to read real history books and not the bible and crap they teach in Western schools for historical references if they want to see the truth of what is going on.

  • J B

    They already had a Palestinian State.
    It just so happens to be where all the Germans live and call Israel

  • Guest Speaker

    There are no Palestinians only Arabs and Jews. I look forward to the day the borders of Israel Reach from the Mediterranean on the West to the Euphrates on the east.

    • Sun Rise

      Me, too.

    • socalbeachdude

      The State of Palestine

      The State of Palestine is a de jure sovereign state in the Middle East that is recognized by 136 UN members and since 2012 has a status of a non-member observer state in the United Nations – which amounts to a de facto, or implicit, recognition of statehood.

      The State of Palestine claims the West Bank bordering Israel and Jordan and Gaza Strip bordering Israel and Egypt with East Jerusalem as the designated capital.

      Most of the areas claimed by the State of Palestine have been occupied by Israel since 1967 in the aftermath of the Six-Day War. Its independence was declared on 15 November 1988 by the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) in Algiers as a government-in-exile.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Palestine

      Israel and its illegal occupation of territories is a huge obstacle to peace and that is a fact. Israel is not a friend of the US and is responsible for the hideous and horrendous bombing of the USS Liberty in which many Americans perished during the 6 day war – and act that was carried out against the USA by the Israeli government and Mossad and was a direct attack on the United States of America. Israel is the most dangerous state in the Middle East and the only State there to have nuclear weapons.

      • Guest Speaker

        Not by me.

  • socalbeachdude

    Galloway – ‘Gangster Terrorist Israel’s Days Numbered

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eYVhQxcxhw

  • socalbeachdude

    Israel has become an APARTHEID STATE that is racist and hateful in every respect and your venomous rhetoric just echos that sorry current state in Israel.

    Galloway – ‘Gangster Terrorist Israel’s Days Numbered

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eYVhQxcxhw

  • socalbeachdude

    Hardly, but that sure does describe YOU.

  • socalbeachdude

    That is a tiny portion of the around 8 million citizens of Israel.

  • socalbeachdude

    You appear to be very confused.

  • Jerry Hamilton

    Trump is 100% jewish as far as Israel is concerned.
    Unless something is done, the Israeli genocide of Palestine will complete on his watch.

    • socalbeachdude

      Nope. What will almost certainly happen, though, is that Bibi Net&YoYo will be indicted and sent to prison for corruption and he is now under investigation by the Israeli police for exactly that.

      • Jerry Hamilton

        If that is so, would it in any way help prevent the genocide. Israel is so right wing. Every one of his cabinet want to see the Palestinians dead.

        • socalbeachdude

          It is way past time for Israel to change the people in its government to get rid of all of the warmongers and put in people with some actual intelligence if Israel wishes to survive as a state in the Middle East.

          • Jerry Hamilton

            What worries me a little is their Samson Option. They have lots and lots of hatred for the rest of the world including America.

  • socalbeachdude

    The present situation of the Palestinian people is MOST CERTAINLY NOT OF THEIR OWN MAKING AND THEY HAVE BEEN UNDER SAVAGE ATTACK BY THE PEOPLE OF WHAT IS NOW ISRAEL FOR NEARLY THE PAST 100 YEARS SINCE 1917 WHEN THE BALFOUR DOCUMENT WAS CREATED BY ENGLAND FOR THE ROTHSCHILDS TO START A COUNTRY IN PALESTINE WHICH WAS CONTROLLED BY THE UK.

    Back in 1917, 92% of the land of Palestine was owned by Arab Palestinians and 8% was owned by Jewish folks, and most of the land owned by the Palestinians was ILLEGALLY SEIZED FROM THEM WHICH IS WHAT IS AT THE VERY HEART OF THE “PALESTINIAN PROBLEM.”

  • thegeorgespyman

    ON THIS DAY:

    588 BC Nebuchadrezzar II of Babylon lays siege to Jerusalem under Zedekiah’s reign. The siege lasts until July 23, 586 BC.

    IRONIC!

    69 Otho seizes power in Rome, proclaiming himself Emperor, only rules for three months before committing suicide.

    http://www.onthisday.com/events/january/15

  • Steve Angell

    Our land has always been divided by the Mississippi.

    Show me this in the Old Testament. It does speak of America which is described as a land divided by a river.

  • CASTIEL

    I hope you are right……when you have principiles…..and you are forced to live in this corrupted world…..and you have no power to change anything…….Guess is up to God now….to clean this mess.

  • Ron McClure

    Betrayer of Israel

    We are told in Luke 22:3 how a man, a disciple and close friend of Jesus who after being filled with the Spirit of Satan betrayed Jesus. Specifically that man, Judas Iscariot, went to the leading priests and captains of the Temple guard (enemy’s of Jesus) to contrive the best way to betray Jesus. We are further told this betrayal resulted in Jesus being abandoned by those he trusted and left alone to defend Himself through a series of carefully controlled hearings and procedures designed by Satan for the purpose of thwarting God’s plan of redemption.

    As bad as this looked for believers in Jesus at that time, little did they know God had used this satanic evil plan to fulfill His (God’s) ultimate plan for the salvation of all past and future believers. Praise be to God for He is in control of every event.

    This December 28th., I submit, a man representing a nation that is a close friend to Israel, who after being filled with the Spirit of Satan betrayed Israel. Specifically that man, the Secretary of State representing the United States of America, John Kerry, went to the leaders priest and captains of the enemy’s of Israel to contrive the best way to betray The very Apple of God’s Eye. This betrayal has resulting in Israel being abandoned by those they trusted and left alone to defend themselves through what appear to be a series of carefully controlled hearings and procedures designed by Satan for the purpose of thwarting God’s plan of completed redemption of both His land (Israel), His completed saints and His promises to Abraham.

    As bad as this looked for Israel and all believers in Jesus at this time, know this, God is using this satanic evil plan to not only bless Israel but also to fulfill His ultimate plan for not just the salvation of all past and future believers but His return to establish both His Kingdom and His 1000 year millennial reign.

    Rejoice when we see these things for God has told us in advance, “when we see these things look up for our redemption draweth nigh.” Praise be to God for He is in control of every event.

    Ron McClure

    rdmcclureco@hotmail.com

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