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		<title>By: Mom of 2</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/europes-coming-summer-of-discontent/comment-page-1#comment-10771</link>
		<dc:creator>Mom of 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 00:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all those reading the comments by Charles Hoyenski..Understand that he spends many months sucking on the government teet with unemployment, free medical and foodstamps. Sure he owns a home is also behind on his child support payments over $5000 and refuses to pay for his kids. Is this the kind of person you wish to believe? A DEADBEAT DAD...He should leave the blogs for those who really give a hoot about other people!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all those reading the comments by Charles Hoyenski..Understand that he spends many months sucking on the government teet with unemployment, free medical and foodstamps. Sure he owns a home is also behind on his child support payments over $5000 and refuses to pay for his kids. Is this the kind of person you wish to believe? A DEADBEAT DAD&#8230;He should leave the blogs for those who really give a hoot about other people!!</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/europes-coming-summer-of-discontent/comment-page-1#comment-8380</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Jews has their Sabbath. In one year there are 52 weeks. So 52 days (more than a month) they don&#039;t work. They existed for thousands and thousands of years.Can we learn something from them??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Jews has their Sabbath. In one year there are 52 weeks. So 52 days (more than a month) they don&#8217;t work. They existed for thousands and thousands of years.Can we learn something from them??</p>
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		<title>By: Julien</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/europes-coming-summer-of-discontent/comment-page-1#comment-5464</link>
		<dc:creator>Julien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am French. I’d have no problem with budget cuts if our so-called leaders would do the same… But they aren’t.

Example : Éric Woerth, French budget minister, claimed he had a list of 3000 tax evaders that he was about to catch. Now we learned his wife was managing the Bettancourt fortune (wealthiest french citizen, ever) and that madame Bettancourt had 2 undeclared accounts in Switzerland and owned an undeclared island in the Seychelles cluster. Best, the same woman gave money to French republic président Nicolas Sarkozy and Prime minister François Fillon and then tried to influence them regarding a soon-to-be trial.

There is NO bloody way MY money will pay for their greed and mismanagement. To hell with them, take the money where it is, I own nothing anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am French. I’d have no problem with budget cuts if our so-called leaders would do the same… But they aren’t.</p>
<p>Example : Éric Woerth, French budget minister, claimed he had a list of 3000 tax evaders that he was about to catch. Now we learned his wife was managing the Bettancourt fortune (wealthiest french citizen, ever) and that madame Bettancourt had 2 undeclared accounts in Switzerland and owned an undeclared island in the Seychelles cluster. Best, the same woman gave money to French republic président Nicolas Sarkozy and Prime minister François Fillon and then tried to influence them regarding a soon-to-be trial.</p>
<p>There is NO bloody way MY money will pay for their greed and mismanagement. To hell with them, take the money where it is, I own nothing anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: mopinsky</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/europes-coming-summer-of-discontent/comment-page-1#comment-5173</link>
		<dc:creator>mopinsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments all of you! It´s really interesting to see this wide range of opinions and partly prejudices about our different lifestyles and -concepts in western neighborhoods, as well as to read those comments from rather poorly informed people creating a climate of fear concerning our future. 

I am a self-employed webdesigner living in Germany, working hard (40 to 65 hours a week depending on my order situation, no payed vacations, no free healthcare, same hourly salary for more than ten years) trying to remain in control of my personal freedom and at the same time raising up two children providing them my best possible support to succeed in their lifes. 

If I could easily leave my country and earn necessary income abroad while escaping the steadily growing pressure from big brothers tax man I would do so - rather today than tomorrow. 
(Hey, Mr. G.Fischoeder, short note to you! I don´t wanna pay your lazy arse with my taxes any longer! Shame on you if it´s true what you say! Stop ripping off honest people immediately and go find yourself work!)
 
Our common basic problem is indeed our financial system and especially the existence of interest rates on credit and the herein implemented way money is controlled and created by privately owned capital. I also agree with Simon Miller on the importance to regain taxpayers control on money creation itsself. But to be honest, I also want to be payed fairly for my work (being able to make enough for living) and asure some way to being prepared for bad times or being old...

Second big problem is our political so called democratic system which allows politicians to promise and hand over money to their electors by taking it as credit from our children. If Mr. Obama and his financial whatever Geitner had to pay back the money they´re now pumping into the system they surely wouldn´t do so. Their way to solve Americas problems will in the long term expropriate and enslave millions of Americans and their children. Who else is going to pay for all the excesses of the past???

Let me try to conclude from a more rational point of view: either all those clever millionairs voluntarily return some big part of their wealth to society or sooner or later will loose their property by force and violence of millions and millions of hopless, chanceless and angry grown ups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments all of you! It´s really interesting to see this wide range of opinions and partly prejudices about our different lifestyles and -concepts in western neighborhoods, as well as to read those comments from rather poorly informed people creating a climate of fear concerning our future. </p>
<p>I am a self-employed webdesigner living in Germany, working hard (40 to 65 hours a week depending on my order situation, no payed vacations, no free healthcare, same hourly salary for more than ten years) trying to remain in control of my personal freedom and at the same time raising up two children providing them my best possible support to succeed in their lifes. </p>
<p>If I could easily leave my country and earn necessary income abroad while escaping the steadily growing pressure from big brothers tax man I would do so &#8211; rather today than tomorrow.<br />
(Hey, Mr. G.Fischoeder, short note to you! I don´t wanna pay your lazy arse with my taxes any longer! Shame on you if it´s true what you say! Stop ripping off honest people immediately and go find yourself work!)</p>
<p>Our common basic problem is indeed our financial system and especially the existence of interest rates on credit and the herein implemented way money is controlled and created by privately owned capital. I also agree with Simon Miller on the importance to regain taxpayers control on money creation itsself. But to be honest, I also want to be payed fairly for my work (being able to make enough for living) and asure some way to being prepared for bad times or being old&#8230;</p>
<p>Second big problem is our political so called democratic system which allows politicians to promise and hand over money to their electors by taking it as credit from our children. If Mr. Obama and his financial whatever Geitner had to pay back the money they´re now pumping into the system they surely wouldn´t do so. Their way to solve Americas problems will in the long term expropriate and enslave millions of Americans and their children. Who else is going to pay for all the excesses of the past???</p>
<p>Let me try to conclude from a more rational point of view: either all those clever millionairs voluntarily return some big part of their wealth to society or sooner or later will loose their property by force and violence of millions and millions of hopless, chanceless and angry grown ups.</p>
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		<title>By: A regular guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>A regular guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 00:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I can say to my US comrades:

Tighten your seat belts, stock up on food supplies and water. For money, start exchanging your extra savings (those green tokens and digits in the banks) for silver and gold.

Start spending more time with God and your family.

This man-made system is broken, and you know as well as I do, things are only going to get worse here in the US. So, prepare while you still have the time and resource.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I can say to my US comrades:</p>
<p>Tighten your seat belts, stock up on food supplies and water. For money, start exchanging your extra savings (those green tokens and digits in the banks) for silver and gold.</p>
<p>Start spending more time with God and your family.</p>
<p>This man-made system is broken, and you know as well as I do, things are only going to get worse here in the US. So, prepare while you still have the time and resource.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Johnson</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/europes-coming-summer-of-discontent/comment-page-1#comment-4408</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 15:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am 24 and I am french. Sorry for my bad english, i understand it well, but have no occasion to practice. I understand the things that Charles is saying, but he is just wrong. This crisis is not your average crisis. This could bring down the entire civilisation of materialism.

Me, my friends and family, are afraid of what is coming. But, at the same time, we are very pleased. Because this is the end of capitalism, as a religion, which celebrate money instade of life and god. America will probably suffer the most in times to come. Because you have no culture, no hope, no ideals, beside money and consumerism. Your nation was never one of freedom, but one of materialism.

Obama is the exact picture of that fact.

I dont give a damn about who leads the world. What cares, is whether or not I am able to live a happy life whith every one. And America has led the entire world to this : debt, neverending debt. And now, bureaucrats and banksters want us to die trying to pay their intersets and golden parachuts. I dont want to spend the time I have on this earth, working and suffering for this absurd matter. 

Everyone in France is ready for a civil war against the intelligentsia. It&#039;s only a matter of time now.

You american people, should now seeks for a new dream and a new way of life. The old one, we know it by now, was very wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am 24 and I am french. Sorry for my bad english, i understand it well, but have no occasion to practice. I understand the things that Charles is saying, but he is just wrong. This crisis is not your average crisis. This could bring down the entire civilisation of materialism.</p>
<p>Me, my friends and family, are afraid of what is coming. But, at the same time, we are very pleased. Because this is the end of capitalism, as a religion, which celebrate money instade of life and god. America will probably suffer the most in times to come. Because you have no culture, no hope, no ideals, beside money and consumerism. Your nation was never one of freedom, but one of materialism.</p>
<p>Obama is the exact picture of that fact.</p>
<p>I dont give a damn about who leads the world. What cares, is whether or not I am able to live a happy life whith every one. And America has led the entire world to this : debt, neverending debt. And now, bureaucrats and banksters want us to die trying to pay their intersets and golden parachuts. I dont want to spend the time I have on this earth, working and suffering for this absurd matter. </p>
<p>Everyone in France is ready for a civil war against the intelligentsia. It&#8217;s only a matter of time now.</p>
<p>You american people, should now seeks for a new dream and a new way of life. The old one, we know it by now, was very wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Boldhawk</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/europes-coming-summer-of-discontent/comment-page-1#comment-4339</link>
		<dc:creator>Boldhawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles, Gus, Ines, 

There&#039;s enough resources and skills, particularly efficiencies in most Western and European countries to where 5 hours of work a day would produce far more than each country can consume plus to generate enough surplus to give to needy countries. 

The problem is very clear to more and more people every day, and that is the monetary systems, and those who control it. I&#039;m not going to take the time to educate you; there&#039;s tons of material on line that tell it like it is... start with the book, Web of Debt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles, Gus, Ines, </p>
<p>There&#8217;s enough resources and skills, particularly efficiencies in most Western and European countries to where 5 hours of work a day would produce far more than each country can consume plus to generate enough surplus to give to needy countries. </p>
<p>The problem is very clear to more and more people every day, and that is the monetary systems, and those who control it. I&#8217;m not going to take the time to educate you; there&#8217;s tons of material on line that tell it like it is&#8230; start with the book, Web of Debt.</p>
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		<title>By: donkey_shot</title>
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		<dc:creator>donkey_shot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 10:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this blog calls itself the economic collapse. reading the disinformed lead article, I cringe at what the author calls for &quot;between the lines&quot;: 

work more! bend over backwards for the international zombie banksters! become like us in the great USA! relinquish the rights you fought for for centuries!

however I can assure all and sundry: this will not happen; we are not the USA which is already run by that small oligarchical elite and lets these f*çk the people up the @rse. 1% of the population in the USA owns 40% of all assets: we are not there yet!

and by God the working peoples of europe will put up a fight before the IMF and the ruling elites gets them there - summer holidays notwithstanding!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this blog calls itself the economic collapse. reading the disinformed lead article, I cringe at what the author calls for &#8220;between the lines&#8221;: </p>
<p>work more! bend over backwards for the international zombie banksters! become like us in the great USA! relinquish the rights you fought for for centuries!</p>
<p>however I can assure all and sundry: this will not happen; we are not the USA which is already run by that small oligarchical elite and lets these f*çk the people up the @rse. 1% of the population in the USA owns 40% of all assets: we are not there yet!</p>
<p>and by God the working peoples of europe will put up a fight before the IMF and the ruling elites gets them there &#8211; summer holidays notwithstanding!</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Hoyenski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Hoyenski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 05:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow ! I did not think I&#039;d elicit such a scathing response !. European&#039;s make a lot of assumptions about us here in the USA, I don&#039;t fit any of the ones mentioned here:
1)I&#039;ve never owned a flat screen tv (they don&#039;t last long and the technology is poor).
2)I have never owned a cell phone, and my car (which currently is inoperable), is 35 years old and paid for.
3) I own a house, pay taxes and have no credit cards.
   
Not all Americas are the &quot;gansta thugs&quot; you see on videos. What we DO have that European&#039;s envy is one unified nation speaking mostly English (though I speak Spanish as well, my ex wife is Mexican as are my children), and a common sense of identity. 
  I feel sorry for you &quot;euro people&quot; you&#039;ll never be able to have the racial harmony and ethnic diversity of us Americans, I love my country and I voted for Obama, I could never see a man like him heading the EU. 
    We  have the best of both worlds here in the US:
A safety net of unemployment insurance (thank you FDR !) and food stamps, social security etc. but we also have reasonable taxes and despite our current problems, a favorable business climate.
  In most of the nations of the EU the taxes are to high, and the benefits are to generous to stimulate  investment in new enterprises. We still create new and innovative firms here in the US (and Canada follows our lead). 
   I feel the solution is not one of extremes, albeit, a draconian modern capitalist state like china with a repressive communist government overseeing all, nor is it a socialist nanny state like Greece (where you can retire at 40, I cannot retire before 70 here in the US), but something in 
between, like what we have.
    We currently have a &quot;border dispute&quot; with Mexico regarding immigration and drugs, Obama met in private with the president of mexico recently, it&#039;s just a question of time before the &quot;Cancun accord&quot; becomes reality and Canada and mexico are united with US (no pun intended) Americans. The &quot;Amero&quot; will be the new currency and we can fix the mess in Mexico and even improve the life of Canadians (Inez, would it not be nice if we could work in each others countries, buy real esteat etc. all under the less restrictive and taxing rules of the US / Nafta ?
   It&#039;s nice living in North America !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow ! I did not think I&#8217;d elicit such a scathing response !. European&#8217;s make a lot of assumptions about us here in the USA, I don&#8217;t fit any of the ones mentioned here:<br />
1)I&#8217;ve never owned a flat screen tv (they don&#8217;t last long and the technology is poor).<br />
2)I have never owned a cell phone, and my car (which currently is inoperable), is 35 years old and paid for.<br />
3) I own a house, pay taxes and have no credit cards.</p>
<p>Not all Americas are the &#8220;gansta thugs&#8221; you see on videos. What we DO have that European&#8217;s envy is one unified nation speaking mostly English (though I speak Spanish as well, my ex wife is Mexican as are my children), and a common sense of identity.<br />
  I feel sorry for you &#8220;euro people&#8221; you&#8217;ll never be able to have the racial harmony and ethnic diversity of us Americans, I love my country and I voted for Obama, I could never see a man like him heading the EU.<br />
    We  have the best of both worlds here in the US:<br />
A safety net of unemployment insurance (thank you FDR !) and food stamps, social security etc. but we also have reasonable taxes and despite our current problems, a favorable business climate.<br />
  In most of the nations of the EU the taxes are to high, and the benefits are to generous to stimulate  investment in new enterprises. We still create new and innovative firms here in the US (and Canada follows our lead).<br />
   I feel the solution is not one of extremes, albeit, a draconian modern capitalist state like china with a repressive communist government overseeing all, nor is it a socialist nanny state like Greece (where you can retire at 40, I cannot retire before 70 here in the US), but something in<br />
between, like what we have.<br />
    We currently have a &#8220;border dispute&#8221; with Mexico regarding immigration and drugs, Obama met in private with the president of mexico recently, it&#8217;s just a question of time before the &#8220;Cancun accord&#8221; becomes reality and Canada and mexico are united with US (no pun intended) Americans. The &#8220;Amero&#8221; will be the new currency and we can fix the mess in Mexico and even improve the life of Canadians (Inez, would it not be nice if we could work in each others countries, buy real esteat etc. all under the less restrictive and taxing rules of the US / Nafta ?<br />
   It&#8217;s nice living in North America !</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned Reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concerned Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 04:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does the Muslim population play into Europe&#039;s economic turmoil? From what I hear they are in pretty dire straits when it comes to Islam in Europe. Supposedly unemployemnt is very high in Europe&#039;s Muslim population is significantly high and with the large number of radicals among that population a bad economy could bring out the worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does the Muslim population play into Europe&#8217;s economic turmoil? From what I hear they are in pretty dire straits when it comes to Islam in Europe. Supposedly unemployemnt is very high in Europe&#8217;s Muslim population is significantly high and with the large number of radicals among that population a bad economy could bring out the worse.</p>
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