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GE CEO Jeffrey Immelt, The Head Of Obama’s Jobs Council, Is Moving Jobs And Economic Infrastructure To China At A Blistering Pace

Jeffrey Immelt, the head of Barack Obama's highly touted "Jobs Council", is moving even more GE infrastructure to China.  GE makes more medical-imaging machines than anyone else in the world, and now GE has announced that it "is moving the headquarters of its 115-year-old X-ray business to Beijing".  Apparently, this is all part of a "plan to invest about $2 billion across China" over the next few years.  But moving core pieces of its business overseas is nothing new for GE.  Under Immelt, GE has shipped tens of thousands of good jobs out of the United States.  Perhaps GE should change its slogan to "Imagination At Work (In China)".  If the very people that have been entrusted with solving the unemployment crisis are shipping jobs out of the country, what hope is there that things are going to turn around any time soon?

Earlier this month, Immelt made the following statement to a jobs summit at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce....

"There's no excuse today for lack of leadership. The truth is we all need to be part of the solution."

Apparently Immelt's idea of being part of the solution is to ship as many jobs overseas as he possibly can.

A recent article on the Huffington Post documented how GE has been sending tens of thousands of good jobs out of the country....

As the administration struggles to prod businesses to create jobs at home, GE has been busy sending them abroad. Since Immelt took over in 2001, GE has shed 34,000 jobs in the U.S., according to its most recent annual filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission. But it's added 25,000 jobs overseas.

At the end of 2009, GE employed 36,000 more people abroad than it did in the U.S. In 2000, it was nearly the opposite.

GE is supposed to be creating the "jobs of tomorrow", but it seems that most of the "jobs of tomorrow" will not be located inside the United States.

The last GE factory in the U.S. that made light bulbs closed last September.  The transition to the new CFL light bulbs was supposed to create a whole bunch of those "green jobs" that Barack Obama keeps talking about, but as an article in the Washington Post noted, that simply is not happening....

Rather than setting off a boom in the U.S. manufacture of replacement lights, the leading replacement lights are compact fluorescents, or CFLs, which are made almost entirely overseas, mostly in China.

But GE is far from alone in shipping jobs and economic infrastructure out of the United States.  For example, big automakers such as Ford are being very aggressive in China.  Ford is currently "building three factories in Chongqing as part of $1.6 billion investment that also includes another plant in Nanchang".

Today, China accounts for approximately one out of every four vehicles sold worldwide.  The big automakers consider the future to be in China.

Just a few decades ago, China was an economic joke and the U.S. economy was absolutely unparalleled.

But disastrous trade policies have opened up the door for a mammoth transfer of jobs, factories and wealth from the United States to China.

China has become an absolute powerhouse and America is rapidly declining.

Beautiful new infrastructure is going up all over China even as U.S. infrastructure rots and decays right in front of our eyes.

You can see some amazing pictures of the stunning economic development that has been going on in China here, here, here and here.

America is being deindustrialized at lightning speed and very few of our politicians seem to care.

Back in 1979, there were 19.5 million manufacturing jobs in the United States.

Today, there are 11.6 million.

That represents a decline of 40 percent during a time period when our overall population experienced tremendous growth.

We used to have the greatest manufacturing cities on the entire globe.  The rest of the world was in awe of us.

Today, most of those formerly great manufacturing cities are decaying, rotting hellholes.

The following is what one reporter from the UK saw during his visit to Detroit....

As you pass the city limits a blanket of gloom, neglect and cheapness descends. The buildings are shabbier, the paint is faded. The businesses, where they exist, are thrift shops and pawn shops or wretched groceries where the goods are old and tired. Finding somewhere to have breakfast, normally easy in any American city, involves a long hunt. ‘God bless Detroit’, says one billboard, just beside another offering the alternative solution: liquor.

You can see some really shocking images of the decline of Detroit right here.

Our politicians insisted that globalism would not result in a "giant sucking sound" as millions of jobs left America.

But that is exactly what has happened.

Sadly, most American families still don't understand what has happened.  Most of them are still waiting for things to get back to "normal".

Millions of unemployed Americans are dealing with incredible amounts of stress right now as they wait for jobs to start opening up again.  But the jobs that have been shipped overseas are not coming back.  In a globalized economy, it doesn't make sense to hire American workers when you can legally pay workers slave labor wages on the other side of the globe.

Millions of good middle class jobs have been replaced by low paying service jobs.  Today there are huge numbers of Americans that are cutting hair or flipping burgers because that is all they can get right now.

Many others are only able to survive because of the safety net.  One reader named David recently left a comment in which he shared his story.  David did everything that the system asked him to do, but the promised rewards never materialized.  Now David is broke, unemployed and he feels deeply frustrated....

A year ago I had a job, we were struggling, but bills were getting paid, and somehow we were getting by. Then I made the mistake of getting sick, one day before my company insurance kicked in. An auto-immune illness almost killed me, if it weren’t for the amazing efforts of my physicians and an emergency spleenectomy, I would not be here.

My wife would have been a single mother,raising two young sons, one of which is autistic. Instead, I pulled through. The disease damaged my liver, leaving me with a chronic condition, and even after a year, it is hard to get up and go some days. My “employer” dumped me as soon as I left the hospital, and I haven’t worked since. It isn’t for lack of looking. There just isn’t anything.

Oh, I get my government cheese money. Here I am college educated, unable to find something that can pay the bills better than the money that we get from the government. It sickens me to be this dependent on the system like this. But the system de-incentivizes work, and makes living on the dole make a perverse economic sense.

I used to have dreams, but I have given up on them. My wife and I have no savings, we have no life raft and if it weren’t for the generosity of her parents and mine, things would have ground to a halt a long time ago.

I believed every thing adults told me. Work hard, I did. Get an education, I did. Find a nice girl and settle down, I did. Two cars, a dog, a cat and couple of kids, a nice townhouse…the american dream. Yep.

I love my country. My heart is broken, broken because I have been betrayed. I did what you asked, I played by the rules. I did what you said to do; I submitted, I conformed, I stopped dreaming. Now what?

I am willing to pay for my faults and transgressions; my failures are my own, I get that. My children should not have to suffer for my failures, they did not do anything wrong. My youngest boy is autistic, we hope he will be able to integrate into society, but the fact is we may have to take care of him for the rest of his life. How do I do this with nothing, and no opportunity in the foreseeable future?

Depression, stress…yep, I’ve got all that. I used to be hopeful and optimistic about the future. Now all I am is afraid.

As the United States continues to bleed good jobs, stories like the one you just read are going to become much more common.

So what are our politicians doing about all of this?

They tell us that we need even more "free trade"!

Barack Obama says that we need more free trade.

The Republicans say that we need more free trade.

In Washington D.C. our politicians do not agree on much, but one thing they do agree on is that we need to keep shipping jobs out of the country.

Until the American people wake up and start demanding an end to the globalization of the U.S. economy, the job losses are just going to continue to get worse.

The United States has lost a staggering 32 percent of its manufacturing jobs since the year 2000.  If this trend continues, millions more Americans will soon be surviving on food stamps or living in tent cities.

The American people are deeply concerned about the economy, but they still have not connected the dots on these issues.  The mainstream media and most of our politicians keep telling them that the globalization of the economy is a wonderful thing.

It is so sad that people just do not understand what is going on right in front of their eyes.

Whether you are a conservative or a liberal or a libertarian, you should be against the deindustrialization of America.

Allowing our industrial base to be raped is not a good thing.

Allowing big corporations and foreign governments to pay slave labor wages to workers on the other side of the globe making things that will be sold inside the United States is not a good thing.

Allowing the destruction of our industrial capacity to threaten our national security is not a good thing.

Allowing millions of precious jobs to leave the country is not a good thing.

The biggest corporations are making some extra profits by exploiting cheap labor on the other side of the globe.  Corporate executives love to shower themselves with larger and larger bonuses.

But our current trade policies are not working for American workers.

We need "fair trade", not "free trade".

The United States is being taken advantage of, and the Democrats and the Republicans are both laying down like doormats and letting it happen.

If you want to know where all the good jobs went, it is not a big mystery.

They have been shipped out of the country and they are not coming back.

Unless fundamental changes are made, things are going to get worse and worse and worse for American workers.

So what is going to happen next?

It is up to you America.

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  • Colin

    As I watch what is happening in Washington, I feel disheartened. As I watch what is happening to our family, I feel depressed. As I evaluate my life, I feel hopeless and small. The depression I feel induces feelings of anxiety and stress. Like two great pythons, they are suffocating the life out of me. As I cling to life, I begin to realize there is no relief. Do I succumb to these and commit suicide? Some will say that suicide is a cowardly action. I disagree. Suicide is one of the most courageous actions a person can perform. I believe you are performing a conscious choice by choosing to escape from a life that has become a prison. Sadly, for myself, while I may contemplate such an escape for myself, I am too cowardly to perform such an act. Yet, if conditions do worsen, and my life worsens in result of, the choice may become the only option.

    I know that others, and I believe many more in the future, will have chosen to end their own lives in this economic malaise. I do not believe that our leaders, and even some of our voters, in this country care that these people have taken their lives. I think for them that it is a blessing if someone has taken their life for they are no longer their problem. I have read the comments on this blog and American Dreams, and I have noted the utter vehemence these people have for the victims of this calamity. I know that if I commit suicide, that I will be another statistic. So what. I am already another statistic. I am already a statistic for I am unemployed, and, as I never applied for unemployment benefits as I worked under the table, in someone’s accounting I don’t exist.

    I am dying as a person. I am becoming more and more isolated. I am becoming more and more disassociated from what it is said to be an “American”.

    In the past, a man could pack his belongings and travel a great distance to re-invent himself. In this day, that’s not possible. The nightmare that is unfolding in this country is occurring everywhere else. Eventually, even China will succumb to this disease and will sicken and will become weak and infirm. Someday, not so far in the future, nations will be fighting over the remnants of our planet’s great mineral resources, and that these nations will be housing massive populations of indigent peoples.

    So, let the wealthy do what they want today for tomorrow their children will reap the harvest their parents have sown. A harvest of misery and desperation, a harvest of strife, a harvest of fear.

    • Michael

      Colin:

      Listen to me – you must never, every give up.

      No matter how much pain you are in, giving up is never the answer.

      There are people out there that care about you and love you.

      Please hang in there.

      There really is a God and He really does love you.

      You can have a future that is greater than you can possibly imagine right now.

      But you will never find out if you give up now.

      Please hang in there.

      Michael

    • Vladimir Ilyich

      Move to Nova Scotia in Canada.
      Suspend your judgement on my statement.
      You will understand in due time.
      Regards

    • HerrLT

      Colin:

      Be thankful you are aware and reading what is actually going on. It is a small cadre of like-minded people who understand everything is, ‘not what it seems.’ You should be grateful for this opportunity and take advantage of it as best you can. God is good – ALL THE TIME. Your valley today could be a summit tomorrow. Do something nice for someone today without any thought of payment, it helps. Hang in there buddy!

    • 007

      I hope you never give up. This difficult time in your life is intended to become your finest hour. I, along with many on this site, believe that what our economy is suffering is divinely allowed to get our attention and to bring our hearts and lives back to God.

      I would encourage you to pray, turn from any sin you know of in your life, trust in Jesus to save you in this life and the next. Get your heart right and trust and expect him to show you how to get through this crisis.

      I did this once in a crisis in my life and have trusted him over and over ever since. He has never let me down. I have never known him to let anyone else down that has trusted in him. I have never met anyone that regretted trusting in him, not only for eternal salvation but for whatever crisis they face.

      I know you are feeling crushed but this can be the greatest turning point in your life. Your best years lie ahead for you. Throw this burden on him, do what you know to do and trust and expect him to show you the way through this. All things are possible to those who believe and the truth will set you free. I believe this with all my heart. If I can be of any more help to you and your family, you let me know. Colin, God bless you and I am praying for you.

    • Ben Dover

      Move to the dark side and feed at the public trough. In a way you would be helping to kill the beast.

    • Fed Up

      Colin,

      You are suffering from a classic case of depression which is a very rational and normal reaction to a world that’s gone wacko mad.

      As someone who has struggled my whole life with depression and thoughts of suicide, I can tell you there is a lot of help for depression these days, and I would recommend you talk to a doctor and get on an antidepressant for a while so you can get the strength, willpower and optimism back to get thru these really hard times.
      good luck to you.

    • http://www.SoutheastasiaIndependentMedia.com Robert S. Finnegan

      Hear Hear mate.

      Robert S. Finnegan
      Jakarta

  • HerrLT

    I’m encouraged by the number of posts that appear in a relatively short period of time for this website. Back in October, when I started to follow this site regularly, there were maybe 30 posts after a couple of days. Now there are over a hundred on day one. It’s encouraging to see more people take the red pill and open their eyes. It is truly a blessing to have any type of foresight regarding ominous smoke signals being sent miles away. If you’re able to see the warning smoke, you’ll be able to hit the ground running when the storm finally reaches you. MAKE NO MISTAKE: when those forty-five million lemmings on the dole for food stamps start being unable to buy adequate food they will NOT sit quietly in their government subsidized housing. They, and many millions more will be out to “get theirs” from anyone perceived to have it. I’ve got my AK locked and loaded as well as a destination should things get hairy here, do you?

  • Eric

    Your time will come, Mr. Immelt and your wonder why your stock plunges day after day…

  • REED RICHARDS

    Nothing new here in terms of what corporate amerika does to make a buck. What this proves is that labor unions and working class people should have abandoned the two wings of the war party (both Republicans and Democrats) as soon as NAFTA and the WORLD TRADE ORGANIZATION (WTO) became reality…………

  • A. Bunker

    Immelt is a pinko commie rat.

    • Gary2

      Immelt needs to be taxed HARD

  • mondobeyondo

    What is Immelt thinking?!?

    You can’t create more good American jobs by shipping existing good American jobs to China, where the workers are paid a tenth of what an American worker is paid.

    This guy, along with the rest of Obama’s “Jobs Council”, does not have America’s interest in mind. Sure he’s in the business of creating jobs. In Beijing.

    We are slipping, and slipping fast. China has one of the fastest trains in the world (Beijing to Shanghai). We have Amtrak. They must be laughing their rear ends off. “You still have 1970s choo-choo? We have fast bullet train!” And China now also has the world’s fastest supercomputer.

    If we ever get the resolve to “get it together” again (and it can be done – look at how we geared up to fight WWII) – the U.S. will once again be a force to be reckoned with. But the sheeple are happy for the most part, and time is running out…

  • mondobeyondo

    It’s better to light a candle than curse the Chinese made CFL’s….

  • http://www.thekeytoeternity.blogspot.com Daniyel Key

    How do we best prepare for the crash landing of the U.S. economy? The Global elite are simply following their well documented agenda to totally deindustrialize America, thus it should come as no surprise that Government Electric GE is all about outsourcing jobs while GENBC Newstainment blows government propaganda in our face.
    Washington D.C. (District of China) is owned by the Government Sachs Banksters, and their debt addiction will continue if anyone but Ron Paul becomes President in 2013.
    Our government has been hijacked and Homeland Security/TSA real role is to protect the Bankster Hijackers.
    We could declare: “Let’s Roll” and attempt to storm the Cockpit, yet even that would be in vain:
    Ladies and Gentlemen the crash is inevitable, our best action is to brace for impact!

    • Ben Dover

      I hear a lot of good things about Ron Paul, but hasn’t he been in congress for a loooong time?

  • patriot alice

    I wish they had just let the chips fall 3 years ago, instead of the trillions borrowed and spend to give us a softer landing….Now we are 4+ trillion and counting, deeper in the hole with nothing to show for it…When we sink into a depression, we will never come out of it because of our increasing debt…

    • Ben Dover

      It would have been a rough three (nightmare) years, but I agree that we would be three years closer to recovery.

    • moses737

      Yes Patriot Alice. And the NWO International Bankers/Illuminati kingpins are making quite sure that we will never come out of it; because they want us to be their beast chipped zombie slaves and serfs in the very near future. That way; they will be our gods and lords.

      And if you take their mark of the beast chip in your forehead or hand; you will be tormented 24/7 in hell because it will mean that you have rejected God and Jesus and have chosen Satan and his antichrist beast leader and their wicked world leaders as your god and lord and saviour.

  • Gerald Parker

    About the only bright side of the energy problem is that if energy becomes too expensive, shipping goods long distances (from China, for example) will no longer be feasible. The cost of shipping them would be so great that it would be better to make them in each country that sells and uses them. That could cause an industrial rebirth.

    Alas, the greed kings will probably find a way to get around this potential solution to energy hassles and keep their fellow countrymen dependent (if even that) and unemployed.

  • http://www.SoutheastasiaIndependentMedia.com Robert S. Finnegan

    The desperate, satanic criminals in the White House, senate and congress are toast in 2012 just for having their faces seen in connection with this attempted murder of the American People. They are CRIMINALLY INSANE AND CAPABLE OF ANYTHING, and must be stopped at all costs from terrorizing and killing the old, disabled and middle class, the “useless eaters” as War Criminal Henry Kissinger and pal eugenicist William “Kill ‘Em Bill” Gates so succinctly put it. These “lawmakers” that have terrorized millions of Americans will never see re-election – that is IF there is an election in 2012. Regardless, as of now the “Barry and The Boner Show” has been cancelled by The People due to bad ratings and the feces eaters of the left hand in the White House, congress, the senate and their various and sundry sycophants are in for one hell of a surprise.

    Robert S. Finnegan
    Jakarta, Indonesia

    • bobbobbobbob

      got dental ins?? ital-sweeds-french-denmark-ect-ect-do

  • Gary2

    $230,000 For a Guard Dog: Why the Wealthy Are Afraid Of Violence From Below
    As inequality in the US grows, the ultra-rich are pouring their spare cash not just into private jets, but into private security. Think there’s a connection?

    There’s class warfare, all right,” Warren Buffett, the world’s third-richest man, said in 2006, “but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.” Buffett had done the math and realized that he paid far less, as a fraction of his income, than the secretaries in his office.

    Yeah stupid fing tea baggers we do need to tax the rich HARD. You foolish MF dolts are RETARDED!

    • El Pollo de Oro

      Gary2 in Wisconsin: When I read the excellent Sarah Jaffe article in Alternet ($230,000 For a Guard Dog: Why the Wealthy Are Afraid Of Violence From Below), I thought to myself, “Yes, that’s EXACTLY what I’ve been saying: if the gap between the haves and have-nots continues to widen in The Banana Republic of America, the haves will need round-the-clock bodyguards just like they need them in Third World countries.” And the “violence from below” will not only include riots and social unrest—it will also include the dreaded Desperate People Doing Desperate Things Tax (kidnapping, armed robbery, carjacking, violent home invasions).

    • Otown Right Guy

      Maybe if you weren’t so hateful and envious of others and worked on self-improvement, you could get a job.

      As for Warren Buffet and the rest of the socialist billionaires, they are more than welcome to send all of their money to the US Treasury. For some reason they don’t do that. Instead they hide their money in “charitable” trusts, and tell me I should be taxed more.

      If you really believe Buffet, Gates, Soros, Immelt and the rest of the billionaire socialist democrats care about anyone else but themselves, then you are the “retard” my friend!

    • 007

      Yea Gary, the rich are responsible for all your problems. If it makes you feel better, keep believing it.

    • DownWithLibs

      Can someone find me a bar of soap to stick in Gary2′s mouth.

  • Gary2

    We are 93rd in the world as far as equality is concerned, and if the debt ceiling deal (or as is looking increasingly more likely, the lack of one) includes a cut to Social Security benefits or an end to the unemployment extension, inequality will only get worse as the poor get, rapidly, poorer. Meanwhile the rich, as has been noted many times, are just concentrating their wealth.

    HOW’S THAT CAPITALISM WORKING OUT??? #93? TIME FOR A GOOD DOSE OF SOCIALISM.

    • REED RICHARDS

      Gary2,

      I disagree. Time for the Amerikan asylumites to take their medicine with a very hefty dose of economic collapse……………

    • Vladimir Ilyich

      The only way for USA to evolve to socialism would be after a complete meltdown of its federal institutions.
      One of the effects of a “default” could well be the dismembering of the union through secession. Such a political decision might be imposed through the UN by the creditor world, in primis the Russian Federation and the PRC.
      Another effect of a “default” (or a low based agreement), would be the impossile management of the multiple army bases around the world due to the lack of cash flow.
      A complete geo-political earthquake would happen.
      As I said previously to Michael, these are times to evaluate the “imponderable truth” about everything (even Alaska)!
      “”Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will pledge with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government.”
      - Henry Kissinger in an address to the Bilderberger meeting at Evian, France, May 21, 1992.

      (in an address to the Bilderberger organization meeting at Evian, France, on May 21, 1991. As transcribed from a tape recording made by one of the Swiss delegates. )”
      Regards

    • bobbobbobbob

      long live mr/mrs tea(Party)

    • 007

      Every country that has tried socialism has crashed and burned. We have been moving away from capitalism to a croney, central planning, socialist state for over 30 years. As we have moved so has our economy decayed. Capitalism, if you studied history, has produced greater wealth and prosperity than any other economic model.

      Russia collapsed. Europe is about to collapse due to their socialism. Spain, Italy, Portugal, Greece, Ireland, are drowning in socialist debt. 20% unemployment and rampant inflation. France and England are not far behind. They have promised socialist benefits to their citizens they can’t afford. As long as they can borrow it seems pretty, but when the credit card limit is reached they fall apart. Europe is borrowing from us to keep their socialist state going. Socialism is destroying them all and this is your model for us?

      What scares me is that you believe our country needs to drink more of this same poison to solve our problems.

      • Gary2

        the Scandinavian countries are beating the daylights out of the USA. Much more socialistic than here. If socialism is ok for the rich and corporations then is is ok for the working people who DID NOT get bailed out.

    • Ben Dover

      Yea, THAT has worked out soooo well in the past.

      Capitalism is not the real problem. If USA was a capitalist country, Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, GM, Chrysler, et al would have been relegated to the dustbin of history and we would have let someone else pick up the pieces.

    • Prepping for the future

      Gary just tell the truth you are progressive Marxist anti American. Cry whine and stomp your feet about taxing the rich. You have no solutions and trying to act like adult is so far above your tiny mind set it is scary. Do us all a favor just hang out with the rest of your Progressive Marxist friends and worry about some fake endangered species that has put millions of Americans out of work. Then cry about high gas prices too. You know all the American oil we can’t drill for here on land cause of the progressive Marxist Eco freaks shut land off to we the people. Yep everyone else fault Gary but the true problem. Look in the mirror.

      • Gary2

        I agree we should drill here and I do not give 2 shits about some endangered insect, Other than my tax the rich belief we probably agree on quite a bit.

  • michael

    perhaps its time to nationalize any company that “rapes” and runs….perhaps an”alternative minimum tax” for for those who wiggle out of paying a fair share, similar to the one for us common folk….

  • http://newpapyrusmagazine.blogspot.com Marcel F. Williams

    We should place a 10 to 100% Federal sales tax (sin tax) on any imports from China and other non-Democratic states because its simply not in the US interest to promote the economic rise of countries that oppress their own people.

    • bobbobbobbob

      CHINA RULES = URFOOLS AND U DONT MAKE ANYTHING EXCEPT POVERTY AND SQUALOR

    • WilloG

      The word democracy in the USA is an oxymoron.
      This corrupt government needs to be flushed down the drain.

      The alopathic medical model needs to go too.
      Read Dr Mercolas information to see alternatives.

      Plant some seeds and trees to do good for all.
      Remember Johnny Apple Seed?

    • Ben Dover

      It will never happen in the USA as it is currently configured, but a tarriff policy resembling a mirror might help.

  • Maria

    Mega corporations have no loyalty to anything or anyone. They exist to chase almighty wealth. They will lie, cheat, steal and even kill to make their wealth. Business ethics died years ago.

    Politicians have no incentive to change anything. Many of them have profited tremendously (immune to insider trading laws) and have no desire to curtail their gravy train.

    Congress and corporations work together against the greater good of America.

    I used to believe a solution to this problem existed this side of an economic collapse. It doesn’t.

    We are absolutely going to experience the hell of this economic depression our grandparents warned us about. Our solution is somewhere on the other side of it…in the Land of Oz…where everyone including politicians and corporations value integrity over personal profit.

    Riiight…

    We just better be praying this isn’t the time foretold in the last book of the Bible.

  • Paul

    You all voted for them.

    Why complain now? Why not vote for someone else?
    How many percent of Americans go to election? 30%

    What if all the others (70%) elect a third party?
    The greens, the commies? Who cares? Could it be so much worse than Democrats and Republicans?

  • Richard

    1. So What’s your point?
    2. You know as well as I do that the United States is desperately looking for an excuse to attack China and I know as well as you do that you’ll be the first to support it.

    There is precedence for this. Nobody actually knows the exact reason for the onset of WW1. The reality is that Britain resented Germany for its incipient strength, especially on the high seas, and its challenge to the British Empire… and it found the flimsiest of excuses to attack Germany. So powerful was Britain at the time that nobody TO THIS VERY DAY accuses Britain of instigating the war.

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  • DavidB

    I really feel sorry for the USA. You have gone from the most powerful country in the world to a virtual laughing stock in barely 40 years – a hollowed out banana republic in fact.
    I could not believe how after the crash in 2008 your “democratic” president handed out billions to Wall Street criminals who caused the crash in the first place and left the backbone of the country – its workers and middle class to ever increasing unemployment and poverty.
    There is one and one only problem that has to be solved before you can recover. That problem is the rich and powerful in your country who control literally everything – the government, the courts – there is one law for them and one for the rest of you it seems, the economy – which they have raped and left to die, the military – which wages endless pointless wars that cost you money you don’t even have.
    Once your dollar ceases to be a reserve currency – and that time is not far off – you won’t even be able to buy anything that is imported – no one will sell their goods to you for worthless pieces of paper called dollars.
    A similar scenario happened in Europe at about the time of your American Revolution – in France – the people became so oppressed and impoverished by the rich and powerful that they spontaneously rose up and lobbed off their heads.
    I wonder how long it will take……….

  • http://www.spiritofjubilee.com Henry Garman

    Time for a Jubilee. End the Fed, issue tax free money for the real economy, tax speculation, put the debt through bankruptcy proceedings.

    • moses737

      Good plan Henry but the NWO International Bankers/Illuminati kingpins don’t want that. They own our government and they want to totally bankrupt us and collaspe the whole system. So they can bring about their Satanic One World Government, where you guys will be their slaves and serfs.

      • Cindy

        “… where you guys will be their slaves and serfs.”

        OR DEAD.

        Don’t forget, they want to reduce the population to 500 million. Stay away from enforced rides on trains, planes, and military style vehicles to “underground bunkers,” FEMA camps, military installations, etc., even when events occur that our omnipotent, omnipresent, beneficent, and ever growing and intrusive government wants to “protect” us from!

  • DeathSpiral

    China has the largest Special Interest and Lobbyists Groups in Washington, DC. We can only imagine how much this country is pushing through irregular channels into the U.S. for influencing decisions.

    • Bob

      The biggest lobby is the israeli lobby, AIPAC. Not China

  • MDK

    Whether you are Republican or Democrat or Independent or Libertarian, shouldn’t the common denominator be that we believe in the authority of the Constitution?

    In every decision we need to hold it up to the “light” of the Constitution to determine its legality and further, its legitimacy.

    I challenge you all to stop thinking in terms of left/right, Republican/Democrat, think “what does the Constitution say about this?”

    We all might be surprised to discover how many of our current laws violate the Supreme law of the United States of America.

    It is so simple. The complexity, twisting, and circumventing of the Constitution usually has to do with politicians looking for money or power. Do not be deceived, most politicians are in it for themselves.

    It is time for true change from the status quo. Do your own due diligence first, and consider strict, Constitution principled candidates. No more voting for the “lesser of two evils.” I cannot tell another who to vote for, but I am standing behind Ron Paul in 2012.

    God bless you all, and may America once again bless God!

    • moses737

      Yes MDK Ron Paul is our only human hope. Unless they that assasinated the 2 Kennedy brothers and Martin Luther King and Malcolm X, kill him too.

    • Rednano74

      Democrats see the Constitution as an obstacle to their agenda. This is why they constantly urinate on it. Many Democrats believe it needs to be rewritten.

      Democrats are against free speech, they are anti-gun, they support the destruction of the 4th Amendment, and on and on.

      Heck, many Democrats are on record saying they want to control the media i.e. against a free press. Hillary Clinton stated “we are losing the information war.” Democrats cannot take it that the “right” has one measly news channel that IMO is hardly conservative. They hate talk radio and alternative news sites like this one. It’s all about controlling the masses. It’s how liberal fascists grow their corrupt thieving governments of enslavement.

      I’m with Ron Paul as well ;)

      • Bean

        Last time I checked, Rick Perry is a Republican who wants to make 7 changes to the Constitution.

        Besides, everything that you just wrote is untrue and completely nonsense. Nice try though.

  • David

    It is apparently obvious that I am not the only one who feels this,or is in this situation. There are millions of us out here in the wilderness. Politics aside, what do we do? This is no longer about politics, and policies. This is about people. Families struggling to keep together in what is an obvious collapse and failure of our system. How to we protect ourselves and provide for our families?
    Don’t talk about political abstractions, and objectivist twaddle. Don’t present wild eyed libertarian/ survivalist non-sense. Don’t tell me to buy gold, when I have to choose between filling up my car and getting food. Don’t tell me it is this group’s fault or that group’s fault. It was all of our faults, we were all there, we saw it happening, but we got caught up in our lives. We were heads down, when we should have seen it coming. And those of us who saw it coming, you did what you could. Shouting in the wilderness is not easy, but now it’s too late for shouting.
    We need reasoned, pragmatic and immediate solutions. Organization and focus have accomplished more than any soapbox tirade. It is hard to talk about political solutions when your kids are going without. It is hard to get all wonkish on policy when you are making the real hard choices about survival. We are down to 4th and long, and we need to come up with a solution.
    In all honesty, if I had one, I would share it. There are a lot of people out there who want to blame the right and the left, who want to blame the banks, who want to blame someone. I suppose it is human nature to find the culprit; the Snidley Whiplash type, twirling his mustache, cackling in insane glee as the Capitol dome burns in the night. Now is not the time for that, let history sort out who the good guys and bad guys were. Now is the time to hold fast, and take care of ourselves.
    We know what the answers are to our questions, and they aren’t found in cabals of evil doers, plotting dirty deeds in the night. Everything that has been done has been done by people who thought that they were doing the right thing, who’s only motivation was their own self-interest, who only cared about the goal and never about what sacrifices had to be made to get there. It was done in broad daylight, we just didn’t pay attention.
    So now what? What do we do? How do we harness all of this energy? Do we just wait for the collapse, hoping to pick up the pieces afterward? If the best outcome is that everything we know and hold dear, comes tumbling down around us, how do we avoid being lost in the crash? I’ve got many questions, I’m desperately looking for answers, and so far, I haven’t found any.

    • moses737

      David I was very touched by your honest and heartfelt concerns. And the only solution that I can tell you is that God will help those who come to Him and want to get to know Him. Otherwise, the New World Order Bankers/Illuminati will give you their prescribed solution; to follow them and accept their One World Luciferic Government; that will require you to accept them as your provider and lord and saviour; instead of God and Jesus Christ.

    • WM

      Some advice for you if you want it. The system is already broken beyond repair, so it’s not IF economic collapse will happen, it is WHEN. Reading the writing on thr global wall it looks like it will be very soon, within the next several years.

      So, not to throw survivalism at you…just use common sense….have some reserves of water, food, ( even long term food, MRE), firsdt aid kits, etc. Plan on the wirse case, and if does not happen, big deal, you have some extra supplies. Look at it like insurance. Lastly, get a gun and substantial amount of ammo. Personally, I would suggest a 12 gauge shot gun, and a semi auto hand gun, like a Glock 9mm or something. If you live any where near a big city, and that city has a lot of welfare, subsidized housing, (people living off government), when the checks and food stamps stop, many ( not all) of these people will be on the streets rioting and trying to find someone to take food and water from, and they will do whatever it takes to do so. A hungry man has a lot of determination to get food, and will do anyhgting to do so. Be prepared to protect your homestead.

      Get you spiritual life in order. Get a Bible if you don’t already have one. Seek the Lord Jesus Christ while there is still time, and find out how to gwet right with God, ( saved, born again) The Bible has MUCH to say about what we are currently going through and what awaits planet earth in the very near future…. distressful times are coming.

      He who has ears, let him hear.

      God Bless you and yours

    • Randy W.

      well said David,
      WM has a good point but I am hopeing we still have some time to change things. We are generally afraid to vote third party for fear the dems will win but really what is the difference? no matter who is in power the results are the same. So, we have to find someone who has real guts and intelligents. Ron Paul, maybe.

  • Gary2

    Doing Debt Ceiling Battle the FDR Way

    At times of national fiscal crisis, President Franklin Roosevelt ever so firmly believed, you don’t give the awesomely affluent a free pass. You pound them — and then you pound some more.

    Jesus H. Christ WTF is wrong with the people who do not think we need to tax the rich hard?????

    The clarion call is: Don’t tax the “job creators.”

    The obvious fallacy of this argument is that the taxes here are personal income taxes. A small business owner who has taken income out of the business has already decided not to use it to create jobs, rather to use that income for personal ends. That’s why we call it personal income tax. Raising the tax rate in this case is, in fact, a tax on people who have decided not to create jobs with the proceeds of their businesses.

    There-I have completely debunked all the dolts who think raising taxes on the wealth will hurt job creators.

    People need to get a f*ing brain cell. These dumb tea baggers are so stupid I am surprised they remember to breath.

    http://bangordailynews.com/2011/07/27/opinion/contributors/income-and-taxes/?ref=mostReadBox

    • moses737

      Gary I can remember when Former President Bill Clinton and his Cabinet said that they needed to tax the middle class more. And it was said that the middle class in the 1990′s were those who made only $48,000 a year. Ridiculous right? And then they also said that they would tax the rich; which they saw as those who made $120,000 a year. And I learned then that it all depends on what they perceive as the middle class and the rich. But it is the middle class that these Banker/Illuminati globalist want to destroy.

      We are the ones who they say are making between $70,000 to $140,000 a year. And as they continue to peck away at everybodies disposable income (money that is left over every month after you pay all of your bills and living expenses) by this gigantic gasoline hoax; then Americans will suffer greatly. But their solution will be to accept their new world order One World Government; where their antichrist beast leader will be your god and lord.

      • Gary2

        disposable income…whats that…have not had that luxury in years since loosing my last good job in 2006. I now have a negative disposable income as do a lot of others but hey lets give the rich another tax cut maybe trickle down will work this time.

        How about tax the rich and spread the wealth and have trickle up???

        • moses737

          Sorry Gary, but I was very hurt when I read your blog because so many Americans are going through the same thing. Many of them are just holding on; and are one paycheck from financial disaster. And many more will be hurt because the god of the International Bankers/Illuminati kingpins, Satan, has taught his people how to bankrupt and crash economies like they did in 1929. Now they are doing it again.

          Only this time; they have our governments blessings. As their One World Satanic Super 1984 Orwellian type Government will enslave the whole world. And only the Great God of Heaven can and will defeat them and have them all spitting out fire and brimstone in the future!!

        • Jibbs

          Gary2
          August 3rd, 2011 at 12:49 pm · Reply
          disposable income…whats that…have not had that luxury in years since loosing my last good job in 2006. I now have a negative disposable income as do a lot of others but hey lets give the rich another tax cut maybe trickle down will work this time.

          How about tax the rich and spread the wealth and have trickle up???
          ********************************************

          Gary2, nothing in the constituiton says that you get a free check or get to live off of someone else because they make money. You sir need to re-educate yourself if uou want to earn a decent money.

          I’m not rich, but I am living comfortable, why should I pay for some parasite to live off of my hard work and sweat?
          Share the wealth?, how about get your arse out and earn it. If you can;t earn your keep, see ya!
          You complain about losing a job in 2006, what have you done to improve your job skills, did you cut back for awhile to inprove your education?

          Why should I help anyone, if they won’t help themselves?
          Give a man a fish, or teach him to fish. If you give, he will never learn!

    • DownWithLibs

      It’s official…Gary has lost it. (I wonder if he kisses his wife with that mouth!!!)

      • Gary2

        yes and I also eat with that mouth! Sometimes I get so worked up at the republicans balancing the budget on the backs of the poor and again the rich pay less and less. At least in the past they threw the poor a small bone. They do not even do that anymore. They are not even subtle about it anymore. Frustrating!

        The dems are almost as bad.

        • trlooksbeyond

          Just an observation: Jeffrey Immelt, rich guy heads a rich corporation, GE – doesn’t pay taxes- supports Barrak Obama’s campaign- is appointed to Obama’s jobs council-moves American jobs to China- really? I thought all those tax evading, job sucking scoundrels, at the top were republicans?
          btw, The blame game is getting us nowhere.
          As a SMALL business owner, I just want the goverment to get out of my way, and let me take care of me and my own. I had a thriving business for 13 years, I paid taxes, I paid my bills, I took care of my children and my granmother, I gave to my community, I gave to my church. In the last two years, My business has tumbled, taxes have gone up, costs have gone up, and I am strugling to pay my bills. Now I can’t help my family, the community, my church. Still I consider myself blessed compared to many who have lost their jobs, homes, etc.. But my blessings have not come from our oversized Fed. Government…

  • PO

    Your All missing the BIG PICTURE: The One World Government (U.N.) has to break the U.S. to take over the United States / World. Obama is following Hitler’s playbook to get us under control. When your broke and starving you will do what they want.
    Hillary is working with the U.N. to get around the 2nd amendment to collect your guns. Then they will herd you into a concertration camp, kill off the ones they can’t convert, bad health or refuse to comply with what they want. Obam is killing us for Islam. He will lie, cheat and steal and anything else to bring us down for Islam.

    These wars are to break us and to wear out our military so they can’t revolt, plus make big corporations a lot of money.

    When we are all broke, who going to buy all those cheap chinese products they are making? They will have to sell them to each other. It’s not about helping or saving American, but killing it so the U.N. (One World Government AKA
    New World Order)

    It’s going right down the road just as the bible stated so the anti-Christ can come to power. Say what you want, the end is coming and you better have your act together with GOD. Right now they are working on blending Christanity and Islam together, plus the others for a one world religion of which the Pope/ Antichrist are to rule and YOU are to worship them or you will be killed. They are working on implentmenting the “Mark of the Beast / 666″ through a nation ID card with biometics information on it so they can track you. If you refuse then you can’t “Buy or sell” or no job etc. It’s about to get much worse. I pray the American people have balls to fight back. I figure the “Home Land Security” and FEMA are the SS troops for One World Order to force compliance and spy/arrest/ kill you when it hits the fan. So do you march to the camps or fight back. I figure Obama is the last president of the United States and the first dictator as there may not be a 2012 election and even if he loses they may just set it aside and say he won anyway. He’s done about anything else he wants without approval from the ball-less congress. Better be making plans for what your going to do besides pick your jaw off the floor when it happens. Good Luck,God Bless America and GOD help her good people.

    • moses737

      Po except for the bad language I agree with everything that you have said. However, the 666 mark of the beast is a chip that the Verichip Corporation makes. And it is not the national ID Card; but this card is the fore-runner of the real Mark. And soon; after WW3 or some other great catastrophy; they will force everybody to take it or else die in their internment camps.

      And like you said, you better know Jesus and get right with God. Because that is the only way! And when you really know God and Jesus; death is sweet and being a martyr for God has great rewards. But according to Revelation 13 and 14:9-11, if you take their Mark (chip) you will be tormented 24/7, without rest day and night, because it will mean that you have rejected God and Jesus Christ; and have taken Satan and his antichrist beast leader as your lord and god.

  • 007

    If you thought the fallout from the bursting of the housing bubble has been bad, imagine what will happen when this government debt bubble and fake money printing bubble bursts.

    Imagine when the government can’t borrow except at 30% interest, when prices rise as fast as the federal reserve prints money, when the welfare state can’t afford to buy food or shelter with their government checks, when the 200 million government checks issued each month are basically worthless.

    When these things happen, it will be a brave new world. Maybe GE is just making these moves in anticipation of the coming storm. Emelt certainly is in the inner circle along with Soros. I say watch what they are doing very carefully.

  • Highspeed

    Buy American made only!
    http://madehereinamerica.com/appliances.aspx
    But, avoid GE.

  • ignatzz

    Time for protectionism. The United States is the richest country in the world, and the wealthiest customer. If these corporations refuse to support the United States, the United States should stop supporting them. They should no longer be allowed to sell in the US unless they have a certain number of jobs in the US. Period.

    There are HUNDREDS of smaller companies and start-ups who would LOVE to be the next GE, and who would be willing to support America.

    • Gary2

      I agree

  • Rick H

    Why hasn’t a cabinet level department like the Economic Security Department been set up?.
    Anytime a company wants to move jobs overseas they should be required to meet with government officials to try and work something out to keep jobs here. And there should be restrictions to keep them from going to China.

    • Highspeed

      America needs a statesman. We need someone who could articulate our ideas and present them to the american people, someone we trust who is not a politician. Include that in your prayers, please.

  • Save the Republic

    For those who are trying to buy American made products, I’ve recently purchased products from these companies that were listed as “made in USA”:

    Nexcare brand bandages
    Cooper tires
    New Balance sneakers

    Check labels to make sure. Some companies may not be entirely US producers and have other plants, it probably varies.

    So, what have the rest of you found to purchase that is “made in USA”?

    Lets work together to starve these outsourcing companies and help our fellow Americans. Are you with me?

    • Save the Republic

      Also found an Ozark Trail brand sleeping bag made in USA at Walmart, if anyone cares. Not everything sold by this company is made in USA though.

    • WM

      You can strill get the following products that are still USA made:

      Redwing shoes/boots, ( the USA Made selection is small though). I bought some steel toe boots for work, cost me $199, but are very comfortable and well built.

      Maglight flashights. I have (2) and both are made in USA

      Guns: You can buy American made guns and ammo.

      Bicycle Frames: For those who want an American made bicycle frame, there are quite a few out there, but prices are not cheap. Most everything else for the bike will most likely be chinese or Japenese made. But at least if you want a domestic frame, you can get it.

      I am not too sure of anything else. I know there are still a lot of smaller consumer things still made here, as well as some food and snacks.

    • Rick H

      Cameron Socks, (Sheboygen, WI) has a huge selection of Wigwam brand socks that are all made in the USA. They have a website.
      The USA still makes world-class pocket knives:
      Benchmade, Buck, Spyderco and other brands.
      And of course Sears Craftsman tools.

  • http://apocalypsecakes.com Shannon

    Yes, they’re moving at a blistering pace. But will we have time for dessert? Maybe an Economic Collapse Crumb Cake?
    http://apocalypsecakes.wordpress.com/2011/08/01/economic-collapse-crumb-cake/

  • http://xx Clayton Tom

    Hi Shanky..

    I used to have the most competitive independent chain of pharmacies in the USA according to Drug Topic a national professional magazine back around 1995. Then the $40,000 a week checks from the State of Calif. stopped coming for the Welfare prescriptions I filled honestly and in good faith. I used to advertise on TV and full page newspaper ads pushing the lesser expensive generic drugs. I could see this happening back in the early 70′s. I did not know about the Elite Big Pharm then. Maybe,.. just a suspicion.. they did not like what I was doing and this was the way to get rid of me through bankruptcy? It reminded me of the fellow I just read who is contemplating sucicide. Desperate!!

    I packed up an headed south across the border to Mexico.. A reverse migration. I did not know what to do but to get away from it all. Coming back North two years later.. yep they had me on their radar at LA International. Spent four months in Club Fed ..they had the audacity to charge me for Bankruptscy Fraud. Spent 4 months “inside” until I had a meeting with my probation officer, Charlie who asked me, “What are you doing here with all the Drug Dealers, Bank Robbers, Murderers, Forgers, Hi Jackers, the former PM of Ukraina who is in for 30 more years — poor bastard.. Antonio who took the cocaine rap for his son. etc. Anyway, time served..4 months. Headed straight south after seeing my Auntie who just passed on last year. And I ain’t coming back. Rent.. 1300 pesos ($110 usd) a month for a 3 BR, light bill about $20/month, telephone with internet hook up $85 a month (that is the big one), satellite TV $10.. Food $100 weekly and that is splurging.
    Ok .. I am sure you can add that all up. Yes, I do miss my family and friends and what used to be the American way of life..but that has changed.. I missed the subprime real estate disaster. My “wife” is from an established military family here in Mexico.. beutiful, moral, a great cook .. I wish I could give her a better life..but we are doing fine..considered to be middle class on my Soc.Security. She is studying to be a Homeopathic Physician. With my medical background in pharmacy, I just figured out how we can have a very nice life here in Mexico with a specialy where there is no competiton and a huge demand here in Mexico and the from Medical Tourisma from the USA.

    Narcotraffic assasinations.. no different than living in the U.S. but non existent where we live..essentially zero crime..actually safer than the U.S. My Auntie says they are like imprisoned in their own house in Oakland, Calif.. they go across the Nimitz Freeway to shop in Alameda so they don’t get assaulted and are now afraid to go to watch the Oakland A’s play.

    So what I am saying.. come to Mexico.. there are many nice place here with many Gringo Americans and not expensive if you stay away from the Beach Resort areas.

    It is not going to get better in the USA. You will be all slaves to the system except for the 1% who control 42% of the US Economy who just made the largest bogus rigged transfer of wealth in the History of the World. Don’t you see .. you don’t have a chance or opportunities. 40% of the jobs just went to China and more to follow.

    Contact me. skype stemsmexico

    • Ray the Anarcho-Capitalist

      Clayton Tom, I think you have the right idea. The US will collapse and soon. It’s unavoidable. Better to flee the sinking ship than to go down with it.

  • dave mckisson

    cut corporate tax rates and loopholes. bring back american jobs or we wtll boycott your products.repeal congerssional perks.re-instate glass-steagall,and abolish the FED!

  • http://www.yournorthochomes.com Ashly

    Wow! If you appoint someone to handle an issue don’t you want them to lead by example? Thats pretty bad. Im sure there is more to it for GE but thats saying something to the US that they need to fix cost issues for employment on companies. We have employees here in California and the cost of them after taxes is nuts.

  • Darien

    First, seditious, scumbag traitors like Immelt and the thousands like him should be arrested and tried for crimes against the American people. Weakening America while bolstering foreign adversaries like China ******************************************************************************.
    Second, the cost of products coming from countries like China should be adjusted accordingly:
    - A currency value adjustment should be applied since China’s is undervalued.
    - An environmental, safety and social services tax should be applied to account for their lack of OSHA, EPA, ADA, social security benefits, etc.
    - We should start to demand reparations for rebuilding countries like Japan and Germany after WW2 and protecting their asses with our military for the past 70 years.
    Alas, these are only pipe dreams and the USA will continue to erode until a complete collapse happens and anarchy results. That’s what the Oligarchy wants and that’s what they will get

  • Finnegan’s wake

    True information here….incredible but true. Now several ivy league or big ten MBA programmes have a new requirement class in cinder and culture and students must spend at least a few weeks to one full semester in china.

    My dad’s Stanford MBA from 1977 is practically useless,as he didn’t have the Chinese experience. Writing is on the wall folks. Also, isn’t it odd timing that us colleges are actively recruiting Chinese students? American kids are priced out of higher Ed. But no problem…just get the kids of Chinese industrialists to pay 50k a year

  • http://waitstartlife.blogspot.com Becky

    “Free trade” is only part of the problem. Thousands upon thousands of regulations to contend with are to blame as well. Some of them make sense, but a lot of them just make work for government bureaucrats at a cost of more than $1 trillion to businesses every year. Taxes are also some of the highest in the world. Compliance with the sheer number of tax laws and regs sucks billions out of our economy every year, in addition to what goes into government coffers.

    Lastly, we have a finance dominated economy. The banks are the driving force behind the loss of industry in this country. When bankers gain dominance in an economy, the divert all surplus value created by industry away from the producers and into their hands. Soon it becomes pointless for producers to keep on producing, so they pack and move to friendlier, less expensive locations, where bankers can’t steal every penny they make. Eventually, the parasites will come to the new locations to resume their thievery.

    In reality, free trade is the least to blame. Our government and the bankster crooks who run it are the ones who are driving the economy into the ground.

  • http://willanystand.blogspot.com ex VRWC

    In case you missed this before, this video gets the point across very quickly.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3SRWmV2WIE

  • Rednano74

    You mean one of the 2000 discriminating Obamacare waivers given to GE isn’t going to keep jobs here?

    Silly rabbits, tricks are for kids.

  • James Bong

    “Don’t tax the Job creators?” Where are the jobs?

    OK. Where are the taxes??????

  • James Bong

    Chinese industrialists? You mean Chinese GOVERNMENT!!!!! There, you don’t just get a visa and go. You have to have permission. And money. Chinese students here are 100% government funded. Spies always are, and what else are technology stealers but spies?

  • http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/02/real-revolution.html Ben Dover (America)

    YOU, and me, and EVERY AMERICAN, needs to understand who the enemy is – then, boycott them.

    Any REAL changes, will absolutely have to address BOYCOTT. There is no
    way around it. Globalist corporations (Wall St. Banks, primarily) have taken over our
    government. The two articles below literally NAME NAMES, of corp.s to boycott. In
    order for Americans to regain their Freedom, as outlined in the U.S. Constitution, and
    Bill of Rights – they will have to ‘cut off’ the globalist corporations and their lackeys
    in the District of Corruption.

    Naming Names: Your Real Government (When dark deeds unfold, point the finger in this direction).
    by Tony Cartalucci
    http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/03/naming-names-your-real-government.html

    The Real Revolution
    http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/02/real-revolution.html
    “Boycott the globalists, cut off their support, undermine their system, and they lose their ability to commit these atrocities. That will be a real revolution and it can start today. Not burning cities and masked rebels waving flags, but communities no longer dependent and fueling a corrupt system we all know must come to an end.”

    • Wee R Screwed

      Ben Dover, I just checked out the link you posted for Land Destroyer. Pretty impressive stuff there. If all this stuff is true, we have our work cut out for us.

      Everyone else out there that agrees with the rest of us that this country is destined for collapse should visit this site and read up on these folks. I never thought a conspiracy this big could actually come about but I’m becoming a believer real fast.

  • Steve

    The private sector is auotomating all jobs. Outsourcing and H1-B visa worker insourcing are manifestations of this automation. But the ultimate goal of the private sector is the elimination of all human labor. PERIOD. Federal governments must ask the all powerful Federal Reserve to printo money for the MIDDLE and LOWER CLASSES and then put these displaced workers to work in Franklin Roosevelt style NFRA jobs (as in the 1930′s.) If the federal governments don’t do that, then they must provide federal stipends, i.e. the “dole,” in the form of vouchers for rent, utilities, groceries, transportation, health care, education etc. The private sector HAS GIVEN UP ON WORKERS. They don’t need them any more. The only other alternative is….violence!

  • Toomanyfakeconservatives

    Criminal… just plain criminal!

  • Dubistjaauchschuldig

    It’s obvious how much loyalty the snobs who run this country have to the people that fight their wars, pay their taxes, grow the food and watch the children. Millionaires and billionaires force wars on us and maybe even look the other way as the bad guys are coming because it’s good for business. In the meantime, the tornado-ravaged states of the South are deemed not newsworthy by the Ivy League elitists, who run off to Somalia and elsewhere to cover a famine in a Muslim country that is filled with anti-American/anti-Israeli guerrillas. The priorities of the People in Power are crystal clear, to put it mildly. They pit largely white FOX News against largely Democrat and minority MSNBC to divide and conquer. In the meantime, the Israel-firsters get whatever they want, jokes about ‘white trash’ are considered cool, the richest of the rich pay less and less tax and all of the sons of the wealthy avoid the wars that daddy warbucks and his pals in Congress get rich off of. Americans are routinely accused of being lazy, when the statistics show that they are the most productive people on Earth. Americans are routinely accused of not wanting to do dirty jobs, when it is actually people like W that avoid them like the plague. Americans are put down in every imaginable way by the media, and then those same Americans are expected to climb into Chinooks flying over the mountains of Afghanistan. Maybe if there was a new unit in the Armed Forces, the Congressional Batallion, made up of the children of congressmen, the United States would all of a sudden become pacifist, and we wouldn’t be bankrupt from the wars. As for anyone who feels guilty reading this and suddenly goes to the recruiter’s office, don’t do it for me. The last thing I want is to be a soldier and be shot at and shoot people.

    • jeffro

      AMEN!

  • John Steinsvold

    An Alternative to Capitalism (which we need here in the USA)

    Several decades ago, Margaret Thatcher claimed: “There is no alternative”. She was referring to capitalism. Today, this negative attitude still persists.

    I would like to offer an alternative to capitalism for the American people to consider. Please click on the following link. It will take you to an essay titled: “Home of the Brave?” which was published by the Athenaeum Library of Philosophy:

    http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/steinsvold.htm

    John Steinsvold

    Perhaps in time the so-called dark ages will be thought of as including our own.
    –Georg C. Lichtenberg

    • Wee R Screwed

      Sorry John, but this idea of yours would never work. And I say that after much forethought. People going back to ancient times have always had some form of money and here’s why. What is money except a form of “perks” as you mentioned in your moneyless way of life. So we do essentially what you are abdicating, using “perks” in the form of money to achieve what we want in life.

      As for your “economic bodies, boards, or councils” they would bever work either. Who would determine who sits in those positions? How would those folks determine who gets what perks? It’s a no-win situation. Jealously would abound.

      As for your grand idea about “cooperation”, that would never work either. People, by nature, are essentially lazy. Why would they do anything if they don’t have to? Oh I know, offer them perks. We do. The perks we offer them today are called “money.” Saying that people will cooperate willingly is like saying that all people are good and moral and decent. I agree that most are but many are not.

      Man cannot rule himself by his own words or promises or feelings about what is right and wrong because every man has a different opinion as to what is right and what is wrong. Dare I use the biggest, and the most talked about, issue in America since the 1970′s, abortion. I say abortion is wrong. You might say it’s right. Others might say it’s wrong but acceptable or tolerable. Either way, there would never be a universal opinion.

      No, man needs something or someone bigger than himself to assist him in this life. He needs rules laid down by a higher authority that he cannot dispute. He must be told what is right and what is wrong. And he must live by those universal rules if he wants to survive.

      And we already have those rules. They are laid down by God Himself. Those “rules” are called the Ten Commandments. If man would simply follow those Ten Commandments as they are laid down by God, he would and could live happily ever after. Those rules or commandments are not hard to live by. They are easy to understand and make perfect sense and are the best and only way man can survive. If we all followed those commandments, life would be fine.

  • Dorothy Stalter

    When Jobs are removed from our country leaving us without work, without health insurance, without life insurance, bare essentials to survive in this country, we can’t buy anything! What will happen when China has the nuts and bolts to our tractors and we can’t farm our own food supply? LOL…OH I forgot, most of our food is imported now!!! Just great! Whose great idea was this? I didn’t get a chance to vote on this…Everything should be on the ballot – no more politicians – Let the People have their voice back; I vote to put everything on the Ballot!!!

  • John Wright

    Business has always had the perogative to operate as they see fit with out regard to US laws, cconventions, contracs etc. Why should it be any different now.
    Remember it was the colonial business owners that fought foreign taxes and created the first tea pary. The workers and geneal public were not involved. Although some general public are part of the current Tea Party movement, it is the money men that are bankrolling it.
    After 60 + years of worker and union power the businesses are now really puttin it to the American worker.
    It’s who is calling the shots as much as it is economics.
    Enjoy the ride people. It is going to get real bumpy from now on.

  • BobtheGrape

    Immelt sholud be mde to help cleand up the mess his nuclear plants made in Japan. He needs to work in the buildings with the common folks not sitting in an office building 250 miles from the danger!! Oh, and he should take Obama with him!

    • BobtheGrape

      Geeez, read: should be made to clean up nto the jibberish I typed. Damned fingers, just washed them and can’t do a thing with them!

  • John

    Do you all still think that it has anything to do with economics and greed? Might there be something that’s much deeper than all this? Do you really think that “bad” trade policy created the situation we’re in? Might everything just be going according to plan? Things are going just as they were planned 20 years ago. It will take some time, but with enough questions and looking around, you may find out the truth.

  • Joe

    I too watched my job and career go to Beijing.
    Those jobs aren’t ever coming back and Im still unemployed after more than a year.My wife is still working but when my bennies run out we will sink, she makes half of what I made.
    I do know this, China didn’t do this to us, our own countrymen did this. They’ve used every means to keep thier own citizens down, dumb and out of the way while they dismantle thier own country.The amazing part is when you try to talk about it to your fellow man, they just say oh well its not personal it’s just business. That’s just the way it is. They don’t even question or care that the very place that they live is being dismantled for profit elsewhere. Empty shop space is everywhere, empty houses are everywhere and nothing is being said. it’s like a dark cover has been placed over us.

  • http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=318515515322 AgreeToDisagree

    Please promote to the fellow Americans voters, that when in doubt, vote only for Joe Publics who are worth no more than 200K, and amenable to signing the pledge/questionairre highlighted issues below.

    Get them to ask their Governor candidate or Congressman candidate, current Governor or current Congressman to sign with a cam taking down the signing in the presence of as many media reporters or people as possible :

    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1914864390044&set=o.318515515322&type=1&theater

    If they won’t sign and pledge, you need to remove them from power via vote in the next election.

    (Governor as an administrator descriptor needs re-terming – who needs to be ‘Governed’ in this day and age – might as well be a Grand Vizier especially when compounded with limitless terms, worse if nepotistically handing the seat to a relative or family member as well – rename with a more power neutral term like State Administrator maybe?)

    Try the comment/response below for an idea of why laws need to be set up to prevent careerist politicians and limitless terms AT ALL LEVELS.
    http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=318515515322&topic=13433

    Voters must espouse and promote this form of TRUE democracy (not the partial representative one that USA has now) with all kinds of term limit protections and freedom promoting pledges, the citizens would certainly consider a Joe Public above a nepotistic oligarch or plutocrat, Joe Public being the best ‘most in touch with harsh reality’ candidate for president governor, senator, mayor and councillor.

  • Georgiaboy61

    The corrupt ties between the Obama regime and GE’s Jeff Immelt bring to mind the original definition of fascism, the one put forth buy Mussolini, namely the fusion of the corporation and the state. Il Duce later said he regretted not calling fascism “corporatism” instead, but the original word stuck. If Obama’s corrupt and criminal tenure in the White House does not qualify as fascism, I’d like to know what does?
    Some may scoff that Obama is closer to a neo-Marxist or neo-Leninist, but these do not preclude fascism, because communism and fascism are in fact ideological neighbors.

  • Georgiaboy61

    Joe, re: “I do know this, China didn’t do this to us, our own countrymen did this.” With all due respect, sir, regarding the Chinese, “The hell they didn’t!” Beijing has been waging economic warfare against us for decades. Do not forget that the regime in China is hard-core communist; the same wonderful folks who exterminated 70 million of their own people a half century ago or so in Mao’s Cultural Revolution. Space does not permit a detailed recitation of the crimes of the communist mandarins in Beijing, but let me offer one example. The Chinese have manipulated their currency, the yuan, so that it does not ‘float” against international monetary markets (including the dollar), with the effect of making Chinese exports more competitively priced against American goods. It also makes U.S. imports more expensive in the PRC. A second example is the massive amount of piracy and economic theft of U.S. manufacturing technology, goods and services that takes place with the tacit approval of Beijing. Yes, we Americans have done much to hurt ourselves, but to absolve the Chinese is not only naive, but incorrect. A very good day to you…

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    WARNING: The WORST 2011 MARKET CRASH IS COMING

    BILDERBERG 2011 MEETINGS: Economic Collapse – Imminent Global Financial Crisis and U.S. Dollar Collapse!

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    I’m posting my blog video here because I need to reach out to the real people who are effected by the Global Economic Crisis. Please pass this video on.

  • barb

    i have a real good idea, let’s ship all the politicians jobs overseas for the next 8 years starting with good ole’ immelt & obama & then see if they still agree that “free trade” is a good thing. if so, they are not welcome, but required to stay there!! do i hear a resounding……hooray to that folks!!

  • MyWay29

    As I type on my assembled in China MacBook, and answer my made in china Blackberry, can I ask, how I \ We are not to “BLAME”? Let’s choose the Competition.. the not made in China products…too hard..we don’t have the backbone to do it. The economy is Global… soon we will be poor enough for the tables to turn…and the world will turn to America for cheap goods made by cheap labor. It’s what kept us in business since the Industrial Revolution, and our inability to compete for our own customers is the reason we have lost our own customers to China. During our consumption, we consumed our selves. Of course, paying for Off Shore Wars is yet another Tale of Grand American Consumption that everyone seems to forget. I am intrigued how no one has pointed the finger at the biggest culprit: Themselves.

  • Chicago

    And yet still no big outcry from the Liberal media, or even a single so called representative.

  • http://Marotz@hotmail.com Evan Guiga

    *WONDERFUL Post.thanks for share..more wait .. …

  • steven casey

    This is for Mr. Jeff Immelt.
    I spent four years in the U.S. Navy, spent two tours in Vietnam and I am extremly upset with your hipocritical behayvor. I understand that you are responsible to (us) as stock holders but making that choice to share intel and farm out thousands of jobs to the Chineese, are you STUPID. You need to stand-up and act as a American first and think of $$$$$ second. I lost two friends in Vietnam just so you can make this STUPID choice and hurt Americans. I hope you read this and make a good choice for American people.

    Steven Casey

  • https://www.facebook.com/note.php?saved&&note_id=10150272549097647 brian tourville

    Congress Legalizes U.S.Corporate Abandonment
    by Brian Tourville on Friday, September 2, 2011 at 11:18am

    Please Re_post to.
    . Political Figures pages.
    . Government pages.
    . News Media pages.
    . Politico info type pages.
    . Thank you.

    Please Re_post Everywhere – Thank you.

    U.S. Solyndra Solar Panel Corp. has closed .. Communist Chinese Government Subsidies targeted to defeat any attempts by any nation to compete with Chinese Product Manufacturing:

    Thank Congress NAFTA_WTO Legislation which Insures failure of any large scale product initiative:

    Fact:

    The NAFTA_WTO Legislation changes to our Laws took away the In Effect since America was Founded Laws which prevented Corporate Abandonment to cheap labor Nations –
    otherwise America would have folded long ago.

    Deny this and you obviously know zero of Economic Nation Building and History..

    ‘The Wealth Generator for Any Nation is it’s Manufacturing for Export’

    With Clinton’s NAFTA_WTO this Wealth is no longer available to The United States.

    National Wealth Generation was Targeted by Clinton to be Stripped from Our Nation & taken as New Steams of Profit by US Corporations via deals with Communist Red China.

    Anyone seeking to do Business in Red China is required to Swear an Oath to The Red Chinese Communist Party – not the Nation – The Political Party of Red China.

    There is no amount of ‘Sales Tax’ on Overseas Manufacturing conceptually to be paid by former US Corporations which replaces the enormous Economic Losses gutting our Manufacturing for Red China has wrought.

    The Clinton ‘Next Phase’ has arrived:

    Here you’ll see GE Corp abandonment of America:

    The First U.S.Corporate to strip out an entire Division -

    Abandoning the American Economy & Nation

    while giving it’s Manufacturing Wealth Generation

    to Communist Red China’s Government:

    Head Quarters – Manufacturing – Research – Development

    1 in 7 Americans are now in Poverty

    1 in 5 American Children are now in Poverty

    400,000 new unemployed Americans every 30 days for the past 3 consecutive years.

    Now take a look at this article and see if you are pleased you’ve Legalized U.S.Corporate Abandonment of Our Nation, Gentlemen:

    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/ge-ceo-jeffrey-immelt-the-head-of-obamas-jobs-council-is-moving-jobs-and-economic-infrastructure-to-china-at-a-blistering-pace

    1. ‘The Founding American Agreement between Business and Government is that

    Business shall have Access to Our Nations Markets in turn for Employing it’s Citizens’.

    2. ‘The Wealth of Any Nation is it’s Manufacturing for Export Sales’.To say other is to bed with Fools & Liars.

    3.- Abandon these Basic Founding Principals & You’ve Abandoned Our Nation. -

    .

  • jerry O

    As long as we continue to
    allow the government to spend
    money they don’t have and let
    them continue to make it harder
    and harder on businesses, there is
    no hope.

    Texas is the only state that seems
    to do things in spite of Washington.

    They created more new jobs last
    year than all the other states
    combined.

    People are moving in mass to Texas.
    Not only is their economy going
    strong, they also do not have any
    income tax.

    Hmm… Maybe I should think about
    moving there also.

    There are a lot of business minded
    people in Texas that are leading
    the way.

    They seem to be getting more and more
    millionaires.

    I found a site put together by one
    millionaire from Texas and he has
    taught me a lot about how to
    prosper like the ultra rich in
    times of economic crisis.

    Sounds like good advise.

    Check out what he has to say.

    I know it will help you.

    Free Video-

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    • Wilmor

      I moved to Texas and I’m financially worse off than before the move. The only advantage I see is food here is cheaper than in other states farther north. Downside, the standard of public school education is one of the lowest in the USA because it is generally not supported by a very conservative state legislature.

  • William

    My Jeffery Immelt *********************!!!

  • http://globaleconomicwarning.blogspot.com Charles Banks

    The whole financial system is a giant ponzi scheme designed to
    strip us from our wealth. Did you know that the U.S Federal
    reserve is a private institution?They have never been audited and are not bound by the
    Constitution. Basically the Federal Reserve is free to print money
    and then lend it to the country and charge an interest. This is the
    definition of a ponzi scheme and totally unconstitutional.

    “How to Profit like the Ultra-Rich in Times of Economic Chaos”
    (click on my profile name to go to my blog to see my full video)

  • http://theworldmonetaryordertocome.blogspot.com/2010/11/introduction.html Carl van Zijll de Jong

    When the population is growing by natural birth, or immigration the requirement for the nation to be innovative is overpowering. To be innovative is much subject to increase development of the people. From the fact that the currency of every nation is inflating, means that our development is declining. Hence, the future to create jobs will be very bleak. For your information Google “The World Monetary Order”.

  • margieT

    I think I am going to be sick. I had just written a letter to the President last month not knowing this, but I questioned his choice of head of the jobs market Jeffrey Immelt, and then I learn he is transferring jobs to China? well, that explains why when I tried applying for a job at GE their website continuously had technical issues for the whole month of August (the testing portion) and they will not accept your application without it. Did you also know Jeffrey Immelt is also accused of buying his position in the whitehouse? allegedly for 38 million, though I do not know how reliable the source actually is. I would just have to say the accusations are probable from the (alleged) 3rd most popular CEO.

  • dshatin52

    O ur President’s “job czar” Immelt, in addition to transferring jobs to China as discussed in this marvelous but depressing article, is expanding enormously and creating thousands of jobs… in the US? Non! In India!

    According to a brief column published in the WSJ Tuesday September 27, 2011 under the section ‘Corporate Watch’
    B3, under column “General Electric CEO Immelt Doesn’t See a Double-Dip Recession”
    Mr. Immelt is quoted as stating U.S. GE will invest more than $200 million building a multibusiness, multitechnology facility in India and also hire 6,000 workers in the next two to three years to support its expansion in that country.

    They Lie, and Lie, and Lie…Another Reason Obama and the Whole Lot of Them Must Go!

  • sameoldstory

    THE ANSWER Do not vote any republican or democrat back into office (especially Congress) at any level of government. Vote Independents Only and have the Independents sign a pledge to ONLY SUPPORT BILLS that put money directly in the middle class workers pockets. The middle class being families that make less than $200,000. a year in income. For those making less than $40,000. they should pay NO TAXES, payroll, income or state taxes. If the Tea Party taught us anything they showed us how to control the agenda in congress. All you need is 100 seats in each house to change the agenda and this should be the focus of all concerned. You vote your choice for President but as you can see if you control Congress you control the Presidency.

  • Karen

    Use the laws that are in place, charge companies to bring in good and services for sale in this country. Charge enough that it would be eat up the additional profit they are making manufacturing outside this country.

    If companies could make more here they would move back.

  • Tourville
  • Mark

    Let outsource our government. Send them to Kenya.

  • CherylP.

    Funny, the Republicans held up money for the 9/11 first responder’s medical money, until they could get tax exempt status for OUTSOURCED COMPANIES! PLEASE! Republicans are the OUTSOURCERS of JOBS!

    • http://www.facebook.com/beth.walker.9047 Beth Walker

      u full of crap. moron.cant u see what ur king obie is doing?hes “pres” remember but still blame republicans 4 his crooked dealings huh people

  • John Galt

    I just saw the report on the Clinton Families income. Before getting any position in power in politics the family was make a modest income. Today the Clinton’s are said to be worth over 175 mill. If you dont see the problem in that than we will deserve what coming to us.

    Real Estate IDX

  • WASP

    He’s the perfect choice, next to Satan, for this position.

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  • Joe Is Watching

    Jeff you are an ass. You know I get really tired of you smart ass bastards screwing America all the time.

    Nuff Said…

  • That guy

    There’s no real difference between modern rebublicans and democrats. The rhetoric is different but the policies are always the same. Stop putting your faith in a party and put it in the constitution, it told us how to prevent this federalism, and it will guide us back to liberty.

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