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	<title>Comments on: Obama To Use BP Oil Spill As An Opportunity To Push His Economy Killing Climate Change Bill</title>
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		<title>By: San Diego Real Estate</title>
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		<dc:creator>San Diego Real Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 22:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe obama has done the very best anyone could really do with all of our current problems, especially the economy. He just announced you can still find problems in the housing market (like we didn&#039;t know that). I am hoping the guy can get us out of this economic slump.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe obama has done the very best anyone could really do with all of our current problems, especially the economy. He just announced you can still find problems in the housing market (like we didn&#8217;t know that). I am hoping the guy can get us out of this economic slump.</p>
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		<title>By: Bleh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bleh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What purpose will it serve to enact Obama&#039;s Cap and Trade?
It will empower a few and them richer. It will crush the lower and middle class people literally.
How does sending the cost of non-polluting electricity sources through the roof help the environment? Generating Electricity from say an existing Hydro Plant, does not in any way generate Carbon.. Total Fail.
Personally I think it is just a ploy to make massive money for a brief period while killing a few million people. We all know this will crush any Economy we have left and any hopes of an economic recovery. We all know this will send Cost of Living through the roof and cause even more un-employment. Businesses will not operate at a loss; they will either close up or raise their prices.

It will cause starvation of the lower and middle classes as cost of food will necessarily skyrocket. You cannot increase costs in electricity and shipping and not have a similar increase in the cost of food or any store bought product for that matter.
So the esteemed Cap and Trade Legislation will:
Increase the cost of Energy
Increase the Cost of Shipping
Increase the Cost of Commuting
Hell, it will Increase the Cost of just about everything including your Food via trickledown effect.
Middle Class and Lower Class people, please do not expect to eat once all the additional cost is handed down to the consumer. Well I Hope you have a garden and your own seeds. City folk are doomed, how are they going to pay for heat, food and water?

Yea this is the best legislation/Idea ever.

If you want to crush an economy, decrease the population and empower the few over the many and deforest a good portion of the country (For heat and Cooking) this is an excellent idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What purpose will it serve to enact Obama&#8217;s Cap and Trade?<br />
It will empower a few and them richer. It will crush the lower and middle class people literally.<br />
How does sending the cost of non-polluting electricity sources through the roof help the environment? Generating Electricity from say an existing Hydro Plant, does not in any way generate Carbon.. Total Fail.<br />
Personally I think it is just a ploy to make massive money for a brief period while killing a few million people. We all know this will crush any Economy we have left and any hopes of an economic recovery. We all know this will send Cost of Living through the roof and cause even more un-employment. Businesses will not operate at a loss; they will either close up or raise their prices.</p>
<p>It will cause starvation of the lower and middle classes as cost of food will necessarily skyrocket. You cannot increase costs in electricity and shipping and not have a similar increase in the cost of food or any store bought product for that matter.<br />
So the esteemed Cap and Trade Legislation will:<br />
Increase the cost of Energy<br />
Increase the Cost of Shipping<br />
Increase the Cost of Commuting<br />
Hell, it will Increase the Cost of just about everything including your Food via trickledown effect.<br />
Middle Class and Lower Class people, please do not expect to eat once all the additional cost is handed down to the consumer. Well I Hope you have a garden and your own seeds. City folk are doomed, how are they going to pay for heat, food and water?</p>
<p>Yea this is the best legislation/Idea ever.</p>
<p>If you want to crush an economy, decrease the population and empower the few over the many and deforest a good portion of the country (For heat and Cooking) this is an excellent idea.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 03:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey AIMLOW JOE,

The free market did not fail us, the government who set ridiculous rules and regulations failed us. Did banks fail us by giving loans to people who couldnt pay them back, or was it the government&#039;s fault for REQUIRING banks under the Community Investment Act to loan to unqualififed borrowers? Did BP drill in 1000 feet of water because they wanted to, or was it the governemnt&#039;s fault for prohibiting drilling on land in places like Alaska where we could have capped the leak in a week? Big governemnt is the problem, not the free market. The market hasnt been free since FDR, our worst president in history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey AIMLOW JOE,</p>
<p>The free market did not fail us, the government who set ridiculous rules and regulations failed us. Did banks fail us by giving loans to people who couldnt pay them back, or was it the government&#8217;s fault for REQUIRING banks under the Community Investment Act to loan to unqualififed borrowers? Did BP drill in 1000 feet of water because they wanted to, or was it the governemnt&#8217;s fault for prohibiting drilling on land in places like Alaska where we could have capped the leak in a week? Big governemnt is the problem, not the free market. The market hasnt been free since FDR, our worst president in history.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 03:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a 2005 internal BP document that shows how invested they are in Cap &amp; Trade and the plan for a carbon currency...

http://files.harc.edu/Sites/HoustonRegionalForest/Events/CarbonWorkshop/MarketBPAmerica.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a 2005 internal BP document that shows how invested they are in Cap &amp; Trade and the plan for a carbon currency&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://files.harc.edu/Sites/HoustonRegionalForest/Events/CarbonWorkshop/MarketBPAmerica.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://files.harc.edu/Sites/HoustonRegionalForest/Events/CarbonWorkshop/MarketBPAmerica.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: TellMeNoLies</title>
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		<dc:creator>TellMeNoLies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 08:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama Schmama.  His name&#039;s Soetoro.  Barry Soetoro.

Full title:  Usurper President Barry Soetoro.

There now, isn&#039;t that better?  Nice little ring to it, yes?

I thought you&#039;d agree.

Now that you&#039;re in a fun mood check this out...

http://www.theamericansheeple.com/specialpublication.html

You&#039;ll laugh all the way to your grave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama Schmama.  His name&#8217;s Soetoro.  Barry Soetoro.</p>
<p>Full title:  Usurper President Barry Soetoro.</p>
<p>There now, isn&#8217;t that better?  Nice little ring to it, yes?</p>
<p>I thought you&#8217;d agree.</p>
<p>Now that you&#8217;re in a fun mood check this out&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theamericansheeple.com/specialpublication.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.theamericansheeple.com/specialpublication.html</a></p>
<p>You&#8217;ll laugh all the way to your grave.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People wake up !  Yes, indeed it was yet another false flag operation.  This one not directly killing Americans, but nonetheless he will try to make the case for his &quot;Cap and trade bill&quot;.  You must realize that Mr. Obama does not work for us(we the American public), he answers to the &quot;Managing Board of Directors&quot; like any large company.  Who are these board members, well Goldman Sach, JPMorgan Chase, London etc.  We cannot allow this cap and trade bill to become law. If it does, it will be over for all of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People wake up !  Yes, indeed it was yet another false flag operation.  This one not directly killing Americans, but nonetheless he will try to make the case for his &#8220;Cap and trade bill&#8221;.  You must realize that Mr. Obama does not work for us(we the American public), he answers to the &#8220;Managing Board of Directors&#8221; like any large company.  Who are these board members, well Goldman Sach, JPMorgan Chase, London etc.  We cannot allow this cap and trade bill to become law. If it does, it will be over for all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 15:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, new to this site and love it.  Keep up the good work.  I like your approach to economic issues -- evidence-based, methodical, free of politics.

On this particular post, though, I think you marked your political territory a little too clearly and, in the process, missed the mark.  While I agree that Obama is being very opportunistic in taking advantage of the Gulf disaster to push his &quot;green&quot; agenda, I have to side with the president when he says the US needs to reduce (if not cut entirely) its dependence on oil -- not only to make ourselves independent of foreign countries that may not have our best interests in mind but also corporations.  If it takes a disaster to push us in that direction so be it.  Our country&#039;s insatiable hunger for oil is the reason why a company like BP decided to install a barely profitable rig offshore in the first place, why they cut corners to squeeze every last dime out of that project, and ultimately why we have this horrible disaster now on our hands.  Say what you will about carbon being good for the environment (which, I have to admit, is an amusing delusion), but our dependence on hydrocarbons is ultimately what is unsustainable, and if we don&#039;t make a decision to change our lifestyles soon, someone (or thing) will make it for us.

Thanks, and once again, keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, new to this site and love it.  Keep up the good work.  I like your approach to economic issues &#8212; evidence-based, methodical, free of politics.</p>
<p>On this particular post, though, I think you marked your political territory a little too clearly and, in the process, missed the mark.  While I agree that Obama is being very opportunistic in taking advantage of the Gulf disaster to push his &#8220;green&#8221; agenda, I have to side with the president when he says the US needs to reduce (if not cut entirely) its dependence on oil &#8212; not only to make ourselves independent of foreign countries that may not have our best interests in mind but also corporations.  If it takes a disaster to push us in that direction so be it.  Our country&#8217;s insatiable hunger for oil is the reason why a company like BP decided to install a barely profitable rig offshore in the first place, why they cut corners to squeeze every last dime out of that project, and ultimately why we have this horrible disaster now on our hands.  Say what you will about carbon being good for the environment (which, I have to admit, is an amusing delusion), but our dependence on hydrocarbons is ultimately what is unsustainable, and if we don&#8217;t make a decision to change our lifestyles soon, someone (or thing) will make it for us.</p>
<p>Thanks, and once again, keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: stevon john</title>
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		<dc:creator>stevon john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Planetresource.net  has a Eco friendly solution to clean up the tragedy British Petroleum has created, please watch the video animation: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60bdQQQ3iVw  and pass this along to as many people as you know.
 
One person can still make a difference in this world, is that simple interactions have a rippling effect. Each time this gets pass along, the hope in cleaning our planet is passed on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Planetresource.net  has a Eco friendly solution to clean up the tragedy British Petroleum has created, please watch the video animation:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60bdQQQ3iVw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60bdQQQ3iVw</a>  and pass this along to as many people as you know.</p>
<p>One person can still make a difference in this world, is that simple interactions have a rippling effect. Each time this gets pass along, the hope in cleaning our planet is passed on.</p>
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		<title>By: Taylor White, PHD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taylor White, PHD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 23:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will be very interesting to see what Barry says tonight on the topic...in a few minutes actually.  

More power, more taxes, less biz...thats for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be very interesting to see what Barry says tonight on the topic&#8230;in a few minutes actually.  </p>
<p>More power, more taxes, less biz&#8230;thats for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: MrPotato</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrPotato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow the writer of this blog is very american, doesn&#039;t matter how educated the person gets it&#039;s always deep-rooted in him that the worlds biggest injustice is if he can&#039;t afford to drive his 4x4 and have his house on full AC during summer and full central-heating on winter, with a couple of windows open of course..

&quot;It would drive gas and electricity prices through the roof.&quot; &lt; that&#039;s good! you can&#039;t convince a stupid american to do the right thing, the only solution is to put the price through the roof, money is all that matters to most Americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow the writer of this blog is very american, doesn&#8217;t matter how educated the person gets it&#8217;s always deep-rooted in him that the worlds biggest injustice is if he can&#8217;t afford to drive his 4&#215;4 and have his house on full AC during summer and full central-heating on winter, with a couple of windows open of course..</p>
<p>&#8220;It would drive gas and electricity prices through the roof.&#8221; &lt; that&#039;s good! you can&#039;t convince a stupid american to do the right thing, the only solution is to put the price through the roof, money is all that matters to most Americans.</p>
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