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		<title>By: Zamachovski</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/paupers-in-the-land-our-forefathers-conquered#comment-347962</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zamachovski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2014 06:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Enough of the white guilt tripping liberal socialist commentary. Conquered is the right term. If you examine history you will see that this system was done to european pagans first via the church and their &quot;business model&quot;. They also had their land &quot;Stolen&quot; to be owned by the holy roman empire. You can&#039;t have something stolen if you do not own it. The indians could not demonstrate ownership so the land was taken by a technologically more advanced culture. This could be done because they merely had custodianship. This was and is not recognized as the same thing as ownership. In any case according to their own histories the indians themselves had to war with another group in order to settle the land when they came in so they did the same thing - they genocided them. The difference is now you were not defeated by a militarily stronger or more tech advanced society you have been swindled out of it and all they had to do was infiltrate and change your culture. Lastly whites were slaves and indentured servants before blacks so save the people of colour minority victim routine.That&#039;s why you have this problem in the first place. The socialists pandered to whatever minority they could by giving them &quot;free stuff&quot; and rights at others expense, and bogus pretended equality which does not exist in a truly free and meritocratic society which america once was. Welcome to the USSA the United Socialist States of Amerika. You wanted equality? you can all be equal as slaves in the Gulag after everything else which were temporary but necessary steps evaporates.

Eat socialism chumps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enough of the white guilt tripping liberal socialist commentary. Conquered is the right term. If you examine history you will see that this system was done to european pagans first via the church and their &#8220;business model&#8221;. They also had their land &#8220;Stolen&#8221; to be owned by the holy roman empire. You can&#8217;t have something stolen if you do not own it. The indians could not demonstrate ownership so the land was taken by a technologically more advanced culture. This could be done because they merely had custodianship. This was and is not recognized as the same thing as ownership. In any case according to their own histories the indians themselves had to war with another group in order to settle the land when they came in so they did the same thing &#8211; they genocided them. The difference is now you were not defeated by a militarily stronger or more tech advanced society you have been swindled out of it and all they had to do was infiltrate and change your culture. Lastly whites were slaves and indentured servants before blacks so save the people of colour minority victim routine.That&#8217;s why you have this problem in the first place. The socialists pandered to whatever minority they could by giving them &#8220;free stuff&#8221; and rights at others expense, and bogus pretended equality which does not exist in a truly free and meritocratic society which america once was. Welcome to the USSA the United Socialist States of Amerika. You wanted equality? you can all be equal as slaves in the Gulag after everything else which were temporary but necessary steps evaporates.</p>
<p>Eat socialism chumps.</p>
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		<title>By: jk2001</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/paupers-in-the-land-our-forefathers-conquered#comment-8063</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jk2001]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your premise that more people owned or at least had a deed to their home in the past is incorrect.  Home ownership rates have risen since the 1930s, due to banking reforms instituted during the New Deal.

In the past, we didn&#039;t tend to own homes.  The one exceptional group was agricultural areas where white males tended to be granted land or could buy land with a mortgage.

Mortages were not available to women and people of color.  Land ownership was denied to women.  Also, in some areas, either by custom or law, some people of color were not allowed to buy land.

In cities, it was more customary to be a renter than an owner, simply because subdivision of land cannot be performed on a multistory apartment building -  you need to go co-op or condo.

So, numerically, home ownership has only increased until the most recent collapse.

Among white males, however, it might seem that it&#039;s become tougher to be a homeowner.  That is partly because white males no longer have a government sponsored monopoly on the privilege of owning land.  But, mostly, the economy&#039;s been tough on everyone.

Welcome to the tough life.  It&#039;s a lot harder when you&#039;re not having women and slaves carry you around, ain&#039;t it?

http://www.freeby50.com/2009/04/history-of-homeownership-rates.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your premise that more people owned or at least had a deed to their home in the past is incorrect.  Home ownership rates have risen since the 1930s, due to banking reforms instituted during the New Deal.</p>
<p>In the past, we didn&#8217;t tend to own homes.  The one exceptional group was agricultural areas where white males tended to be granted land or could buy land with a mortgage.</p>
<p>Mortages were not available to women and people of color.  Land ownership was denied to women.  Also, in some areas, either by custom or law, some people of color were not allowed to buy land.</p>
<p>In cities, it was more customary to be a renter than an owner, simply because subdivision of land cannot be performed on a multistory apartment building &#8211;  you need to go co-op or condo.</p>
<p>So, numerically, home ownership has only increased until the most recent collapse.</p>
<p>Among white males, however, it might seem that it&#8217;s become tougher to be a homeowner.  That is partly because white males no longer have a government sponsored monopoly on the privilege of owning land.  But, mostly, the economy&#8217;s been tough on everyone.</p>
<p>Welcome to the tough life.  It&#8217;s a lot harder when you&#8217;re not having women and slaves carry you around, ain&#8217;t it?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.freeby50.com/2009/04/history-of-homeownership-rates.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.freeby50.com/2009/04/history-of-homeownership-rates.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Aury (Thunderdrake)</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/paupers-in-the-land-our-forefathers-conquered#comment-2687</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aury (Thunderdrake)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 04:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It still impresses me to this day how so many people blow off the founding fathers as outdated wisdom.

What they forget is that some wisdom is so great, it transcends time.

This worldwide debt that America suffers; I&#039;m starting to feel it in Canada as well. The housing bubble, the inflation; everything. But I&#039;m not going to simply sit back and let those things eat away at the wealth I intend to build..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It still impresses me to this day how so many people blow off the founding fathers as outdated wisdom.</p>
<p>What they forget is that some wisdom is so great, it transcends time.</p>
<p>This worldwide debt that America suffers; I&#8217;m starting to feel it in Canada as well. The housing bubble, the inflation; everything. But I&#8217;m not going to simply sit back and let those things eat away at the wealth I intend to build..</p>
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		<title>By: Mountainaires</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mountainaires]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 12:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mama K,

The US *deserves* this; if you live in the US, you will pay too, either through higher taxes, or fewer services. For example, at least 1 million unemployed Americans are getting ready to lose their unemployment payouts. Congress has decided to end unemployment benefits after 99 weeks, just short of 2 years. What happens when those 1 million people stop getting unemployment benefits? They will be homeless; they will become predators, most likely in poorer neighborhoods, stealing from and engaging in thuggery and violence against those who still have something. You won&#039;t be able to call police, because there are fewer police to come stop the violence and predation. There won&#039;t be anyone to call; people will be on their own. Food costs have risen astronimically in the past year; they will continue to go up; ordinary Americans will find it harder and harder to afford food, and if fuel costs go up, trucking companies will go out of business and won&#039;t get food to stores in the normal manner, so there will be less food to buy. What will poor Americans in urban areas do then? People who live in the country will be able to grow at least some of their food; people in cities will have to riot and steal theirs. 

Trying to make this about race is pointless; when there is no money left, race-baiting won&#039;t save you. So, try to think in terms of what&#039;s best for all of America, not just how you can exact revenge for some imagined slight hundreds of years ago. You&#039;ve never in your lifetime suffered anything like what you are about to suffer. It&#039;s not about &quot;race,&quot; it&#039;s about money--who has it, and who doesn&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mama K,</p>
<p>The US *deserves* this; if you live in the US, you will pay too, either through higher taxes, or fewer services. For example, at least 1 million unemployed Americans are getting ready to lose their unemployment payouts. Congress has decided to end unemployment benefits after 99 weeks, just short of 2 years. What happens when those 1 million people stop getting unemployment benefits? They will be homeless; they will become predators, most likely in poorer neighborhoods, stealing from and engaging in thuggery and violence against those who still have something. You won&#8217;t be able to call police, because there are fewer police to come stop the violence and predation. There won&#8217;t be anyone to call; people will be on their own. Food costs have risen astronimically in the past year; they will continue to go up; ordinary Americans will find it harder and harder to afford food, and if fuel costs go up, trucking companies will go out of business and won&#8217;t get food to stores in the normal manner, so there will be less food to buy. What will poor Americans in urban areas do then? People who live in the country will be able to grow at least some of their food; people in cities will have to riot and steal theirs. </p>
<p>Trying to make this about race is pointless; when there is no money left, race-baiting won&#8217;t save you. So, try to think in terms of what&#8217;s best for all of America, not just how you can exact revenge for some imagined slight hundreds of years ago. You&#8217;ve never in your lifetime suffered anything like what you are about to suffer. It&#8217;s not about &#8220;race,&#8221; it&#8217;s about money&#8211;who has it, and who doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Mama K</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/paupers-in-the-land-our-forefathers-conquered#comment-2498</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mama K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The Land Our Forefathers Conquered&quot; was stolen from and developed on the backs of people of color who STILL pay the price.  The US *deserves* this.

Call it karma.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Land Our Forefathers Conquered&#8221; was stolen from and developed on the backs of people of color who STILL pay the price.  The US *deserves* this.</p>
<p>Call it karma.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Nadeer</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/paupers-in-the-land-our-forefathers-conquered#comment-2433</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ralph Nadeer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 20:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I talk to people about the banks and money every chance I get, and the sad fact is that people don&#039;t know anything about money and don&#039;t care to know.  This &#039;dumbing down&#039; of &#039;consumers&#039; from citizens is not a coincidence.  The US Govt. has been waging a counter insurgency against the American People since before JFK got whacked.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I talk to people about the banks and money every chance I get, and the sad fact is that people don&#8217;t know anything about money and don&#8217;t care to know.  This &#8216;dumbing down&#8217; of &#8216;consumers&#8217; from citizens is not a coincidence.  The US Govt. has been waging a counter insurgency against the American People since before JFK got whacked.  </p>
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		<title>By: Bob Stout</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Stout]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 01:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The American people have been asleep far too long in regards to this major issue. Now, the United States is turning into another third world country and its happening right before our very eyes. My granddad was alive for the first depression in 1929 and told me it was really bad, but people today do not have the survival skills people had back in the 1930&#039;s. One day real soon, you will see the stock market plunge and lose about 1/2 of its current value, and then plunge even further because our currency is totally useless. Do not beleive the lies that the government is telling about unemployment being 9.7 percent, it is in reality about 20% plus. Our founding fathers knew what a revolution was but the one that is coming will be so devastating we currently have no idea just how bad it will really be. May the Lord help us all!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The American people have been asleep far too long in regards to this major issue. Now, the United States is turning into another third world country and its happening right before our very eyes. My granddad was alive for the first depression in 1929 and told me it was really bad, but people today do not have the survival skills people had back in the 1930&#8217;s. One day real soon, you will see the stock market plunge and lose about 1/2 of its current value, and then plunge even further because our currency is totally useless. Do not beleive the lies that the government is telling about unemployment being 9.7 percent, it is in reality about 20% plus. Our founding fathers knew what a revolution was but the one that is coming will be so devastating we currently have no idea just how bad it will really be. May the Lord help us all!!!</p>
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		<title>By: David Wozney</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/paupers-in-the-land-our-forefathers-conquered#comment-2393</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Wozney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 16:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: “&lt;i&gt;... the U.S. dollar has lost over 95 percent of its purchasing power  ...&lt;/i&gt;”

If the stated value, of “Federal” Reserve notes, declines enough with respect to copper and nickel, the 1946-2009 U.S. Mint nickels, composed of cupronickel alloy, could become somewhat rare in mass circulation.

The April 23rd metal value of these nickels is “$0.0625836” or 125.16% of face value, according to the “United States Circulating Coinage Intrinsic Value Table” available at &lt;a href=&quot;http://coinflation.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Coinflation.com&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: “<i>&#8230; the U.S. dollar has lost over 95 percent of its purchasing power  &#8230;</i>”</p>
<p>If the stated value, of “Federal” Reserve notes, declines enough with respect to copper and nickel, the 1946-2009 U.S. Mint nickels, composed of cupronickel alloy, could become somewhat rare in mass circulation.</p>
<p>The April 23rd metal value of these nickels is “$0.0625836” or 125.16% of face value, according to the “United States Circulating Coinage Intrinsic Value Table” available at <a href="http://coinflation.com" rel="nofollow">Coinflation.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laura]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 16:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree.  We have lost the country and all the lies about a recovery most believe.  Yet unemployment rises and good jobs are outsourced.  People with college degrees are working at low wage jobs.  Younger ones starting out have no future unless they know someone who can line them up in a good job.  Most will end up with a hopeless future.  Many have quit voting as both parties are working for the elite.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  We have lost the country and all the lies about a recovery most believe.  Yet unemployment rises and good jobs are outsourced.  People with college degrees are working at low wage jobs.  Younger ones starting out have no future unless they know someone who can line them up in a good job.  Most will end up with a hopeless future.  Many have quit voting as both parties are working for the elite.</p>
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		<title>By: TerriPC66</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TerriPC66]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 15:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please tell me if I am understanding this correctly:

If the American people were to buy controlling stock in U.S. banks, then the people could hold the controlling interest as to how the funds are handled?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please tell me if I am understanding this correctly:</p>
<p>If the American people were to buy controlling stock in U.S. banks, then the people could hold the controlling interest as to how the funds are handled?</p>
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