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	<title>Comments on: Ponzi Scheme: The Federal Reserve Bought Approximately 80 Percent Of U.S. Treasury Securities Issued In 2009</title>
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		<title>By: Nexus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nexus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 06:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Quantitative Easing (QE)strategy will not work and this is not just an ideological debate between one group of economists and another group - there is a lot of empirical evidence. Firstly, the Japanese tried the same with QE and they did not clean up their banking system (the US has not) and stimulated too little and too late (like the US) - it stagnated the Japanese economy for well over a decade and secondly, the IMF has produced a report (IMF Working Paper - WP/08/224 - Systemic Banking Crises - A New Database) that analysed over 120 financial events related to bank failure and the conclusion from this data is that QE has no positive effect on the real economy and little positive impact on banking operation in the longer term.  Bernanke is supposed to be an expert on the Great Depression but he does not understand the dynamics. It is assumed in classical economics that markets tend to equilibrium but even classical economist Irving Fisher (too which Bernanke refers) did a volt-face and concluded that markets are not in equilibrium and a different strategy is required.

Bernanke&#039;s strategy will have a perverse outcome - the only impact QE will have is a provide a short benefit to financial institutions (surprise, surprise!!). Bernanke and the Fed have a peculiar and very narrow focus on Wall Street at the total expense of the real economy. The medium to long term impact will be to undermine the bond market, set of accelerating inflation and add to the overall debt liability. It will be like throwing petrol on an already burning fire. There are many domino&#039;s ready to fall and any one could trigger a systemic failure.

The reality is that the financial services sector/Wall Street should have been closed down and cleaned out. It is now inevitable that a systematic collapse will occur as no one was willing to take the hard medicine and constantly &#039;band aiding&#039; as the Fed is doing will only prolong the inevitable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Quantitative Easing (QE)strategy will not work and this is not just an ideological debate between one group of economists and another group &#8211; there is a lot of empirical evidence. Firstly, the Japanese tried the same with QE and they did not clean up their banking system (the US has not) and stimulated too little and too late (like the US) &#8211; it stagnated the Japanese economy for well over a decade and secondly, the IMF has produced a report (IMF Working Paper &#8211; WP/08/224 &#8211; Systemic Banking Crises &#8211; A New Database) that analysed over 120 financial events related to bank failure and the conclusion from this data is that QE has no positive effect on the real economy and little positive impact on banking operation in the longer term.  Bernanke is supposed to be an expert on the Great Depression but he does not understand the dynamics. It is assumed in classical economics that markets tend to equilibrium but even classical economist Irving Fisher (too which Bernanke refers) did a volt-face and concluded that markets are not in equilibrium and a different strategy is required.</p>
<p>Bernanke&#8217;s strategy will have a perverse outcome &#8211; the only impact QE will have is a provide a short benefit to financial institutions (surprise, surprise!!). Bernanke and the Fed have a peculiar and very narrow focus on Wall Street at the total expense of the real economy. The medium to long term impact will be to undermine the bond market, set of accelerating inflation and add to the overall debt liability. It will be like throwing petrol on an already burning fire. There are many domino&#8217;s ready to fall and any one could trigger a systemic failure.</p>
<p>The reality is that the financial services sector/Wall Street should have been closed down and cleaned out. It is now inevitable that a systematic collapse will occur as no one was willing to take the hard medicine and constantly &#8216;band aiding&#8217; as the Fed is doing will only prolong the inevitable.</p>
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		<title>By: Tasha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 05:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Won&#039;t the weaker dollar mean that we might actually be able to export some of our products again--at a profit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Won&#8217;t the weaker dollar mean that we might actually be able to export some of our products again&#8211;at a profit?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Layton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Layton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Illinois Office of the Attorney General has filed fraud charges against a Cary, Illinois truck driver who allegedly lured family and friends to invest about $300,000 into commodity trading pools. Craig M. Gutowsky , was charged with seven counts by a grand jury. Illinois States Attorney charges that were posted in the Du Page County , Illinois Court. Funds that investors had deposited with Gutowsky were alleged diverted into paying gambling debts, funding Play and trade franchises, Ponzi type payments to other investors and other living expenses. Gutowsky out on workman’s comp injury from his job as a truck driver at USF Holland could be seen driving his luxury turbo charged Mercedes Benz or on the golf course in Cary, Illinois rather than at the desk assigned to Gutowsky. Craig M. Gutowsky 42, of Cary, Illinois, operated several commodity trading pools, using tCMG Trading. Craig M Gutowsky presented himself as the managing member of CMG consulting. Gutowsky alleged obtained funds under false pretenses. Craig Gutowski was charged with five counts of securities fraud and two counts of THEFT According to neighbors suburb of Cary, Illinois, Craig and Rene Gutowsky drove luxury automobiles, were in Las Vegas a couple of times a year and hosted extravagant Texas Hold Em poker parties in the couples finished basement. Gutowsky took money to trade in the Kevin G Carney fundcharging a 10% broker Fee . Gutowsky allegedly used the the money to pay earlier investors and for his own purposes.
Renee L. Gutowsky has not yet been charged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Illinois Office of the Attorney General has filed fraud charges against a Cary, Illinois truck driver who allegedly lured family and friends to invest about $300,000 into commodity trading pools. Craig M. Gutowsky , was charged with seven counts by a grand jury. Illinois States Attorney charges that were posted in the Du Page County , Illinois Court. Funds that investors had deposited with Gutowsky were alleged diverted into paying gambling debts, funding Play and trade franchises, Ponzi type payments to other investors and other living expenses. Gutowsky out on workman’s comp injury from his job as a truck driver at USF Holland could be seen driving his luxury turbo charged Mercedes Benz or on the golf course in Cary, Illinois rather than at the desk assigned to Gutowsky. Craig M. Gutowsky 42, of Cary, Illinois, operated several commodity trading pools, using tCMG Trading. Craig M Gutowsky presented himself as the managing member of CMG consulting. Gutowsky alleged obtained funds under false pretenses. Craig Gutowski was charged with five counts of securities fraud and two counts of THEFT According to neighbors suburb of Cary, Illinois, Craig and Rene Gutowsky drove luxury automobiles, were in Las Vegas a couple of times a year and hosted extravagant Texas Hold Em poker parties in the couples finished basement. Gutowsky took money to trade in the Kevin G Carney fundcharging a 10% broker Fee . Gutowsky allegedly used the the money to pay earlier investors and for his own purposes.<br />
Renee L. Gutowsky has not yet been charged.</p>
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		<title>By: Misc Ellanious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Misc Ellanious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 04:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vote for Republicans...Vote for Republocrats!!! A Republican passed the first Stimulous measure. A Democrat passed the second for the same reason. 

We need to unite and get off the division bandwagon that has been developed to divide and conquer.

We need to start saying NO MORE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vote for Republicans&#8230;Vote for Republocrats!!! A Republican passed the first Stimulous measure. A Democrat passed the second for the same reason. </p>
<p>We need to unite and get off the division bandwagon that has been developed to divide and conquer.</p>
<p>We need to start saying NO MORE!</p>
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		<title>By: MadeinAmerica</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadeinAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 20:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Takeover is nearly complete, America.  Get out and vote in November for constitutional conservative candidates on election day.  This election will be the most important election in our lifetime.  Do it for your children and grandchildren.  If Republicans don&#039;t gain seats in the House, it is OVER for America as we know it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Takeover is nearly complete, America.  Get out and vote in November for constitutional conservative candidates on election day.  This election will be the most important election in our lifetime.  Do it for your children and grandchildren.  If Republicans don&#8217;t gain seats in the House, it is OVER for America as we know it.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Flinchpaugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Flinchpaugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why in the world would our government delegate this immense power of controlling our money supply to a private bank when the constitution clearly states that this power is granted to the federal government?  Our government can print our own money interest free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why in the world would our government delegate this immense power of controlling our money supply to a private bank when the constitution clearly states that this power is granted to the federal government?  Our government can print our own money interest free.</p>
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		<title>By: jaydeep</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaydeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 05:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this can e understood even by a layman .... well explained article... only one clarification if this holds true why the collapse is just not happening ... r there more fools than smart guys in this world... i dnt think so....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this can e understood even by a layman &#8230;. well explained article&#8230; only one clarification if this holds true why the collapse is just not happening &#8230; r there more fools than smart guys in this world&#8230; i dnt think so&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: The Greenroom &#187; Forum Archive &#187; 20 Reasons Why The U.S. Economy Is Dying And Can&#8217;t Recover As Long As Democrats Control the Levers of Power</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Greenroom &#187; Forum Archive &#187; 20 Reasons Why The U.S. Economy Is Dying And Can&#8217;t Recover As Long As Democrats Control the Levers of Power</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a massive Ponzi scheme that would make Bernard Madoff blush. The Federal Reserve bought nearly 80 percent&#160;of all U.S. Treasuries issued in 2009. In other words, the entire Democrat-controlled [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a massive Ponzi scheme that would make Bernard Madoff blush. The Federal Reserve bought nearly 80 percent&nbsp;of all U.S. Treasuries issued in 2009. In other words, the entire Democrat-controlled [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those guys, on this video, saying that the economy is on an up-tick are idiots and I wouldn&#039;t put a dime into investment with them. Nothing good can come from this PONZI scheme. 

MARANATHA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those guys, on this video, saying that the economy is on an up-tick are idiots and I wouldn&#8217;t put a dime into investment with them. Nothing good can come from this PONZI scheme. </p>
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		<title>By: DTOM</title>
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		<dc:creator>DTOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 17:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The founding fathers wrote a constitution that would prevent this.  The problem came about when those stewards of this great documant became self-interested and passed unconstitutional laws to buy votes.  The bottom line is that the constitution does not authorize the Feds to take from one individual and give to another.  Frankly, our tax system in unconstitutional as well, in terms of taxing some more than others.  Everyone is equal under the law...well unless you make more than the other guy.  

The constitution is dead...most are in denial of this fact.  Freedom?  Where?  you&#039;re born-tell the state, need school-state run, job-tell the state, purchase something-tell the state, childeren-tell the state, own real property-tell the state ( you don&#039;t own your real estate; it&#039;s a long term lease from the state-try not paying your property taxes), die-tell the state, try and pass your assets to your kin-tell the state, THEY OWN YOU!  We already carry the mark of the beast.  Render to Ceasar what belongs to Ceasar...

What happened to the notion that we have unalienable rights endowed by our creator?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The founding fathers wrote a constitution that would prevent this.  The problem came about when those stewards of this great documant became self-interested and passed unconstitutional laws to buy votes.  The bottom line is that the constitution does not authorize the Feds to take from one individual and give to another.  Frankly, our tax system in unconstitutional as well, in terms of taxing some more than others.  Everyone is equal under the law&#8230;well unless you make more than the other guy.  </p>
<p>The constitution is dead&#8230;most are in denial of this fact.  Freedom?  Where?  you&#8217;re born-tell the state, need school-state run, job-tell the state, purchase something-tell the state, childeren-tell the state, own real property-tell the state ( you don&#8217;t own your real estate; it&#8217;s a long term lease from the state-try not paying your property taxes), die-tell the state, try and pass your assets to your kin-tell the state, THEY OWN YOU!  We already carry the mark of the beast.  Render to Ceasar what belongs to Ceasar&#8230;</p>
<p>What happened to the notion that we have unalienable rights endowed by our creator?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 04:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is away to pay off the national.See
Taxpayersassocation.us web site for  the 1% solution. Has been around for 2000 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is away to pay off the national.See<br />
Taxpayersassocation.us web site for  the 1% solution. Has been around for 2000 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Ixion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ixion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 07:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liken this economic collapse to the fall of the Roman State. Slow, steady, and long enough that nobody really noticed Rome&#039;s absense untill it was already gone. It just progressively rotted away. Byzantium and Holy Roman Empire CALLED themselves Rome, but they werent Romans. Like past, like present...a great circle. It kinda makes me wonder, who and where will people be refering themselves as &quot;Americans&quot; about 300 years from now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liken this economic collapse to the fall of the Roman State. Slow, steady, and long enough that nobody really noticed Rome&#8217;s absense untill it was already gone. It just progressively rotted away. Byzantium and Holy Roman Empire CALLED themselves Rome, but they werent Romans. Like past, like present&#8230;a great circle. It kinda makes me wonder, who and where will people be refering themselves as &#8220;Americans&#8221; about 300 years from now?</p>
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		<title>By: Uncensored Magazine &#124; Economic Black Hole: 20 Reasons Why The U.S. Economy Is Dying And Is Simply Not Going To Recover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncensored Magazine &#124; Economic Black Hole: 20 Reasons Why The U.S. Economy Is Dying And Is Simply Not Going To Recover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 07:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] get the money?  From the Federal Reserve of course.  The Federal Reserve bought approximately 80 percent of all U.S. Treasury securities issued in 2009.  In other words, the U.S. government is now being [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] get the money?  From the Federal Reserve of course.  The Federal Reserve bought approximately 80 percent of all U.S. Treasury securities issued in 2009.  In other words, the U.S. government is now being [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ slam.  The Federal Reserve is a network of 12 privately run banks which the US basically has an account with.  They are extremely for profit, and the poison that will bring this country down.  You need to check your facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ slam.  The Federal Reserve is a network of 12 privately run banks which the US basically has an account with.  They are extremely for profit, and the poison that will bring this country down.  You need to check your facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Bolivar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Bolivar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 10:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Robert Durant:

A word to the wise-

One of the problems with publicly ridiculing others (like you did, calling some other posters &quot;clueless&quot; / &quot;an... idiot&quot;) is when you yourself make a clear mistake. For instance, &quot;an uniformed idiot&quot; ---&gt; Surely you&#039;re not referring to people in uniform? (^^)  Perhaps you meant to write, &quot;an uninformed idiot&quot;? 

Anyway, humility is good for the soul, right? 


You also mentioned quantitative easing, and claimed &quot;... you’ll see that there is nothing unique here&quot;. Well, according to the articles below, your statement is not entirely true, due to the massive degree to which Q.E. has been utilized recently by the Fed.

www dot investingblog dot org/archives/517/checking-up-on-fed-quantitative-easing/
   July 18th, 2009 
&quot;... Running out of Ammo

The Federal Reserve can buy up to $750 billion of Mortgage-backed securities, however its already purchased $526.42 billion of the notes. It has even less breathing room with treasuries, having already purchased $684.03 billion with authorization to buy up to $700 billion. With so little ammunition left, the Federal Reserve will have to make landmark announcements to further impact the free markets.&quot;

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www dot telegraph dot co dot uk/finance/breakingviewscom/4175704/Quantitative-easing-the-modern-way-to-print-money-or-a-therapy-of-last-resort.html
  Quantitative easing: the modern way to print money or a therapy of last resort?
08 Jan 2009

&quot;... The Fed{&#039;s} ... balance sheet has certainly mushroomed: it is up 18-fold in the past 4 months to $820bn. ...&quot;
  (such a massive increase would seem to register as &#039;unique&#039;, no?)


&quot;... Similarly, history isn’t much use in judging the therapy’s effectiveness. There has been only one significant trial - in Japan between 2001 and 2006. Excess reserves held by banks at the Bank of Japan rose from Y5 trillion to Y35 trillion, roughly 6pc of GDP.

Scholars cannot agree whether the technique worked. ...&quot;


 (earlier in same article):

   &quot;... Where, one might ask, does the central bank get the money to buy all these securities? The answer is that it just waves a magic wand and creates it. It doesn’t even need to turn on the printing presses. It simply increases the size of banks’ accounts at the central bank. These accounts held by ordinary banks at the central bank go by the name of “reserves”. All banks have to hold some reserves at the central bank. But when there is quantitative easing, they build up “excess reserves”.  ...&quot;

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And from  http :// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantitative_easing :
&quot;... In practical terms, the central bank purchases financial assets (mostly short-term), including government paper and corporate bonds, from financial institutions (such as banks) using money it has created ex nihilo (out of nothing). This process is called open market operations.  ... However, there is a risk that banks will still refuse to lend despite the increase in their deposits, or that the policy will be too effective, leading in a worst case scenario to hyperinflation.[1]

Quantitative easing is sometimes described as &#039;printing money&#039;, although the central bank actually creates it electronically &#039;out of nothing&#039; by increasing the credit in its own bank account.[2]&quot;

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So essentially the Fed practices legal counterfeiting - robbing Americans (and foreigners foolish enough to hold US dollars) in the process. Great deal for the Fed&#039;s bankers, huh!

Anyway, I&#039;m no expert on the Fed, but can you support your claims? Thanks.

Sam Bolivar
StrivingForJustice at yahoo dot com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Robert Durant:</p>
<p>A word to the wise-</p>
<p>One of the problems with publicly ridiculing others (like you did, calling some other posters &#8220;clueless&#8221; / &#8220;an&#8230; idiot&#8221;) is when you yourself make a clear mistake. For instance, &#8220;an uniformed idiot&#8221; &#8212;&gt; Surely you&#8217;re not referring to people in uniform? (^^)  Perhaps you meant to write, &#8220;an uninformed idiot&#8221;? </p>
<p>Anyway, humility is good for the soul, right? </p>
<p>You also mentioned quantitative easing, and claimed &#8220;&#8230; you’ll see that there is nothing unique here&#8221;. Well, according to the articles below, your statement is not entirely true, due to the massive degree to which Q.E. has been utilized recently by the Fed.</p>
<p>www dot investingblog dot org/archives/517/checking-up-on-fed-quantitative-easing/<br />
   July 18th, 2009<br />
&#8220;&#8230; Running out of Ammo</p>
<p>The Federal Reserve can buy up to $750 billion of Mortgage-backed securities, however its already purchased $526.42 billion of the notes. It has even less breathing room with treasuries, having already purchased $684.03 billion with authorization to buy up to $700 billion. With so little ammunition left, the Federal Reserve will have to make landmark announcements to further impact the free markets.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>www dot telegraph dot co dot uk/finance/breakingviewscom/4175704/Quantitative-easing-the-modern-way-to-print-money-or-a-therapy-of-last-resort.html<br />
  Quantitative easing: the modern way to print money or a therapy of last resort?<br />
08 Jan 2009</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; The Fed{&#8217;s} &#8230; balance sheet has certainly mushroomed: it is up 18-fold in the past 4 months to $820bn. &#8230;&#8221;<br />
  (such a massive increase would seem to register as &#8216;unique&#8217;, no?)</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; Similarly, history isn’t much use in judging the therapy’s effectiveness. There has been only one significant trial &#8211; in Japan between 2001 and 2006. Excess reserves held by banks at the Bank of Japan rose from Y5 trillion to Y35 trillion, roughly 6pc of GDP.</p>
<p>Scholars cannot agree whether the technique worked. &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p> (earlier in same article):</p>
<p>   &#8220;&#8230; Where, one might ask, does the central bank get the money to buy all these securities? The answer is that it just waves a magic wand and creates it. It doesn’t even need to turn on the printing presses. It simply increases the size of banks’ accounts at the central bank. These accounts held by ordinary banks at the central bank go by the name of “reserves”. All banks have to hold some reserves at the central bank. But when there is quantitative easing, they build up “excess reserves”.  &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>And from  http :// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantitative_easing :<br />
&#8220;&#8230; In practical terms, the central bank purchases financial assets (mostly short-term), including government paper and corporate bonds, from financial institutions (such as banks) using money it has created ex nihilo (out of nothing). This process is called open market operations.  &#8230; However, there is a risk that banks will still refuse to lend despite the increase in their deposits, or that the policy will be too effective, leading in a worst case scenario to hyperinflation.[1]</p>
<p>Quantitative easing is sometimes described as &#8216;printing money&#8217;, although the central bank actually creates it electronically &#8216;out of nothing&#8217; by increasing the credit in its own bank account.[2]&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>So essentially the Fed practices legal counterfeiting &#8211; robbing Americans (and foreigners foolish enough to hold US dollars) in the process. Great deal for the Fed&#8217;s bankers, huh!</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m no expert on the Fed, but can you support your claims? Thanks.</p>
<p>Sam Bolivar<br />
StrivingForJustice at yahoo dot com</p>
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		<dc:creator>NewAmericaNow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is that their will be incredible amounts of homelessness, poverty, sickness, dispair, and hunger. This is no laughing matter. If you are not prepared both mentally and physically your going to be a casualty. See my blog at http://newamerica-now.blogspot.com and my youtube videos at http://www.youtube.com/user/newamericanow for information that will help you. Good Luck and God Bless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that their will be incredible amounts of homelessness, poverty, sickness, dispair, and hunger. This is no laughing matter. If you are not prepared both mentally and physically your going to be a casualty. See my blog at <a href="http://newamerica-now.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://newamerica-now.blogspot.com</a> and my youtube videos at <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/newamericanow" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/newamericanow</a> for information that will help you. Good Luck and God Bless.</p>
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		<title>By: 12 Signs That 2010 Is Going To Be A Really, Really Bad Year For The Democrats And The Obama Administration</title>
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		<dc:creator>12 Signs That 2010 Is Going To Be A Really, Really Bad Year For The Democrats And The Obama Administration</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] #2) In fact, more Americans than ever are sick and tired of the financial mess that the U.S. government is getting us all into. The truth is that the U.S. government is drowning under an absolute mountain of debt and all of the spending that Barack Obama is doing is only making it worse. To finance this debt, the U.S. Treasury has been forced to issue so many new bonds that the rest of the world cannot possibly buy them all. So who is buying them all up? The Federal Reserve. In fact, the Fed is now purchasing approximately 80 of all new U.S. debt. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] #2) In fact, more Americans than ever are sick and tired of the financial mess that the U.S. government is getting us all into. The truth is that the U.S. government is drowning under an absolute mountain of debt and all of the spending that Barack Obama is doing is only making it worse. To finance this debt, the U.S. Treasury has been forced to issue so many new bonds that the rest of the world cannot possibly buy them all. So who is buying them all up? The Federal Reserve. In fact, the Fed is now purchasing approximately 80 of all new U.S. debt. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JadeDragon</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 05:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well written article. I plugged it for you here:

http://www.xomba.com/ponzi_scheme_federal_reserve_bought_approximately_80_percent_us_treasury_securities_issued_2009</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well written article. I plugged it for you here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.xomba.com/ponzi_scheme_federal_reserve_bought_approximately_80_percent_us_treasury_securities_issued_2009" rel="nofollow">http://www.xomba.com/ponzi_scheme_federal_reserve_bought_approximately_80_percent_us_treasury_securities_issued_2009</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Durant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Durant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 07:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys are clueless. This is the implementation of *Monetary Policy* that regulates the supply of bank reserves.  Look up, specifically, the term &quot;Quantitative Easing&quot; and you&#039;ll see that there is nothing unique here. Also note that this kind of debt purchase by the Fed started in late 2007, under W, and continues to this day as part of the financial market stimulus (i.e. to keep the money supply flowing so we don&#039;t have to resort to donkey carts in the street and bread lines). 

There&#039;s nothing worse than an uniformed idiot with an Internet connection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are clueless. This is the implementation of *Monetary Policy* that regulates the supply of bank reserves.  Look up, specifically, the term &#8220;Quantitative Easing&#8221; and you&#8217;ll see that there is nothing unique here. Also note that this kind of debt purchase by the Fed started in late 2007, under W, and continues to this day as part of the financial market stimulus (i.e. to keep the money supply flowing so we don&#8217;t have to resort to donkey carts in the street and bread lines). </p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing worse than an uniformed idiot with an Internet connection.</p>
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		<dc:creator>TAP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know how much the Fed usually buys of the Treasury issue, say for the past 10 years?  Without that how do we know 80% is high?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know how much the Fed usually buys of the Treasury issue, say for the past 10 years?  Without that how do we know 80% is high?</p>
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		<title>By: Paka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael said: &lt;blockquote cite=&quot;What we’re seeing right now however is a fight against deflation, where the value of cash is going up, not down, as assets values like real estate tank.&quot;&gt;

If you believe this lie, you are being duped again by those who control the statistics. Inflation is rampant RIGHT NOW - one only has to see what is happening at the grocery store, look at the electric bill, your phone bill, etc. When was the last time your insurance rates went &lt;i&gt;down&lt;/i&gt;? The value of cash is NOT going up as evidenced by the fact that virtually everything we buy costs more every year, especially the important commodities like food. Yes, housing is going down, but that&#039;s because it is stabilizing (artificially slowly due to the low interest rates) after a ridiculous run-up that had valuations never seen before in modern history. 

And to the previous poster, who said: &quot;It’s all good, it’s the end of the financial system as we know it. What’s wrong with this? I think it’s great.&quot;

Let&#039;s see if you still have that attitude when the **NEW** financial system gets in place. That will be one where the U.S. will lose it&#039;s Constitutional mandate to create and control its own currency. (Of course, even now, it&#039;s in the hands of the private bankers!) But, when there is a world wide currency being controlled by the **SAME** banking cartel that is controlling the multitude of currencies now, their work will be complete. You are welcoming the big brother state, where all transactions go through a central clearing system and everything you buy, do, eat, or contribute, everywhere you travel, all of your entertainment choices, all of your assets and debts, late payments, where you shop, where you eat, how much you save, where you invest, how much you pay on your rent/mortgage, and  when and where you had your last rectal exam (along with the results) &lt;b&gt;will all be tracked by a single computer controlled by the banker/controllers&lt;/b&gt;. This will be the nightmare of the &quot;cashless society&quot;. Mike, let&#039;s see if you still hold on to your ignorant, cavalier attitude then. The final assault will be to replace the U.S. Constitution with a global constitution, stripping away the last vestiges of what was once the embodiment of &quot;We the people...&quot;. Wake up and smell the facism!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael said:<br />
<blockquote cite="What we’re seeing right now however is a fight against deflation, where the value of cash is going up, not down, as assets values like real estate tank.">
<p>If you believe this lie, you are being duped again by those who control the statistics. Inflation is rampant RIGHT NOW &#8211; one only has to see what is happening at the grocery store, look at the electric bill, your phone bill, etc. When was the last time your insurance rates went <i>down</i>? The value of cash is NOT going up as evidenced by the fact that virtually everything we buy costs more every year, especially the important commodities like food. Yes, housing is going down, but that&#8217;s because it is stabilizing (artificially slowly due to the low interest rates) after a ridiculous run-up that had valuations never seen before in modern history. </p>
<p>And to the previous poster, who said: &#8220;It’s all good, it’s the end of the financial system as we know it. What’s wrong with this? I think it’s great.&#8221;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see if you still have that attitude when the **NEW** financial system gets in place. That will be one where the U.S. will lose it&#8217;s Constitutional mandate to create and control its own currency. (Of course, even now, it&#8217;s in the hands of the private bankers!) But, when there is a world wide currency being controlled by the **SAME** banking cartel that is controlling the multitude of currencies now, their work will be complete. You are welcoming the big brother state, where all transactions go through a central clearing system and everything you buy, do, eat, or contribute, everywhere you travel, all of your entertainment choices, all of your assets and debts, late payments, where you shop, where you eat, how much you save, where you invest, how much you pay on your rent/mortgage, and  when and where you had your last rectal exam (along with the results) <b>will all be tracked by a single computer controlled by the banker/controllers</b>. This will be the nightmare of the &#8220;cashless society&#8221;. Mike, let&#8217;s see if you still hold on to your ignorant, cavalier attitude then. The final assault will be to replace the U.S. Constitution with a global constitution, stripping away the last vestiges of what was once the embodiment of &#8220;We the people&#8230;&#8221;. Wake up and smell the facism!!!!</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Esther</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 09:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Hosea 4:6
If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Hosea 4:6<br />
If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14</p>
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		<title>By: wheninthecourse</title>
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		<dc:creator>wheninthecourse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 05:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THIS ADMIN KNOWS SOMETHING THAT WE DONT

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426271/posts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THIS ADMIN KNOWS SOMETHING THAT WE DONT</p>
<p><a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426271/posts" rel="nofollow">http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426271/posts</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All hard assests will prevail in time! The devaluation of dollars has only begun...</description>
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		<title>By: AK</title>
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		<dc:creator>AK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This administration headed by Obama and all the other idiots are a danger. I think you have to be trying to bring down the economy to do the damage they are doing. My gut is just not feeling to good about this. It is time to clean house of all the corruption. 

One issue bills should be the way to pass laws. That way the idiots making the laws might take time to read them. Plus, they can&#039;t hide all the egregious waste and funding of their outrageous ideologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This administration headed by Obama and all the other idiots are a danger. I think you have to be trying to bring down the economy to do the damage they are doing. My gut is just not feeling to good about this. It is time to clean house of all the corruption. </p>
<p>One issue bills should be the way to pass laws. That way the idiots making the laws might take time to read them. Plus, they can&#8217;t hide all the egregious waste and funding of their outrageous ideologies.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 21:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all good, it&#039;s the end of the financial system as we know it.  What&#039;s wrong with this?  I think it&#039;s great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all good, it&#8217;s the end of the financial system as we know it.  What&#8217;s wrong with this?  I think it&#8217;s great.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don said: &quot;And China? What are they going to do. They are simply going to be screwed with cheap dollars like the rest of us...&quot;

I agree; however, the US is down 12 trillion, and China loses 2 trillion.  The US industrial base is decimated, China has new factories and state-of-the-art technology.  Who actually wins in that scenario?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don said: &#8220;And China? What are they going to do. They are simply going to be screwed with cheap dollars like the rest of us&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree; however, the US is down 12 trillion, and China loses 2 trillion.  The US industrial base is decimated, China has new factories and state-of-the-art technology.  Who actually wins in that scenario?</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the problem is those &quot;big&quot; bankers never show up in person. they do their deeds thru the &quot;big&quot; banks and their officers.
And what do THEY do with these obscene profits? they buy gold and silver and other hard assets.
Stealing from the poor thru the political system.
The worst part is some of these families are not even american (Rothschild, Warburg. english queen), yet they steal from poor americans thru the devaluation of their currency.
A giant scam.
The US family is...the Rockefellers.
The one giving orders to Obama is David (Rockefeller)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the problem is those &#8220;big&#8221; bankers never show up in person. they do their deeds thru the &#8220;big&#8221; banks and their officers.<br />
And what do THEY do with these obscene profits? they buy gold and silver and other hard assets.<br />
Stealing from the poor thru the political system.<br />
The worst part is some of these families are not even american (Rothschild, Warburg. english queen), yet they steal from poor americans thru the devaluation of their currency.<br />
A giant scam.<br />
The US family is&#8230;the Rockefellers.<br />
The one giving orders to Obama is David (Rockefeller)</p>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Tudo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoying the change? 

Maybe there&#039;s still time to convince Ron Paul to take over the reigns in 2012. With a Paul administration, America would see a return to following the Constitution. That would bring hundreds of thousands of troops HOME where they belong. That would bring SANITY and fiscal conservatism to the economy and that would result in the greatest economic expansion this country has ever seen.
Like the position America is in? Do nothing then, support the fellow in the white house now.
Sick of being lied to? Sick and tired of losing money ? Support Ron Paul, http://www.ronpaul.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoying the change? </p>
<p>Maybe there&#8217;s still time to convince Ron Paul to take over the reigns in 2012. With a Paul administration, America would see a return to following the Constitution. That would bring hundreds of thousands of troops HOME where they belong. That would bring SANITY and fiscal conservatism to the economy and that would result in the greatest economic expansion this country has ever seen.<br />
Like the position America is in? Do nothing then, support the fellow in the white house now.<br />
Sick of being lied to? Sick and tired of losing money ? Support Ron Paul, <a href="http://www.ronpaul.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ronpaul.org/</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 15:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi guys  it(s 100% that us economy is going to collapse current 2012-2013 LOL
it is big scam  !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi guys  it(s 100% that us economy is going to collapse current 2012-2013 LOL<br />
it is big scam  !!!</p>
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