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		<title>By: sean</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 19:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You said it. We need to have a mass revolution. The government has gone too far and is too big . The rich are getting richer, and the poor are getting poorer. The middle class is already gone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said it. We need to have a mass revolution. The government has gone too far and is too big . The rich are getting richer, and the poor are getting poorer. The middle class is already gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2011 02:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you want less poor - Tax them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want less poor &#8211; Tax them.</p>
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		<title>By: rtl</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 18:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael Moore is an ass in every sense. Who cares what he thinks, he´s not ever American.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Moore is an ass in every sense. Who cares what he thinks, he´s not ever American.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Travis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 03:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hear alot of you say Michael Moore doesn&#039;t want the middle class to be taxed which is true.  However he wants the rich to be taxed more.  I am not the smartest man in the world, but if you tax the rich more, who is the one that really pays for that.  When big corporations have to pay in for more taxes they pass that cost down to the consumer.  How is it many of you don&#039;t understand basic business economics.  

Common Sense not so common]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear alot of you say Michael Moore doesn&#8217;t want the middle class to be taxed which is true.  However he wants the rich to be taxed more.  I am not the smartest man in the world, but if you tax the rich more, who is the one that really pays for that.  When big corporations have to pay in for more taxes they pass that cost down to the consumer.  How is it many of you don&#8217;t understand basic business economics.  </p>
<p>Common Sense not so common</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Warhurst</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Warhurst]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 21:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a democracy government represents and helps the people - the voters who elect the government. In a republic the government system is dominated by elites - in our case wealthy elites.
America has a republic with a lot of elections but precious little actual democracy.
Eisenhower warned against the &quot;industrial-military&quot; complex, which was and is anti-democratic. What he failed to see was the &quot;Wall Street/Bankers-Washington&quot; complex.
The financial elites have increasingly taken over government since Nixon, until now the federal government and most state governments are controlled by wealthy elites who are busy stalemating/dis-mantling government.
Why? Wealthy elites/corporations single value considered before decision/action is dollars. Dollars are incapable of describing human and social values which constitute morality and consequently wealthy elites/corporations whose only value considered is dollars are amoral - they never consider morality in the first place.
Government has the ability and responsibility to respond to and represent human and social values; which makes democratic government the enemy of wealthy elites and corporations - who have a decades old campaign to neuter, corrupt, stalemate, and destroy the ability of government to respond to human and social values. Government now only responds to dollars to the delight of Wall Street and Bankers.
America doesn&#039;t need to get rid of democratic government it needs to remove wealthy elites and corporations from ownership of government and free government to respond to human and social values which are what voters and citizens want from government and the major reasons for current discontent.
The best example of the level of control of government exerted by wealthy elites/corporations is the so called &quot;free-trade&quot; agreements which are tools of the wealthy elites and corporations to destroy the American middle class and export their jobs to the lowest wage jurisdictions in the world.
We don&#039;t need to attack the government we need to rescue it from the clutches of Wall Street and Bankers and corporations who are busy corrupting government with mountains of money.
Let&#039;s get rid of corrupted government and get democratic government back which is capable of governing for the benefit of ALL Americans not just the top 5-10% of income earners.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a democracy government represents and helps the people &#8211; the voters who elect the government. In a republic the government system is dominated by elites &#8211; in our case wealthy elites.<br />
America has a republic with a lot of elections but precious little actual democracy.<br />
Eisenhower warned against the &#8220;industrial-military&#8221; complex, which was and is anti-democratic. What he failed to see was the &#8220;Wall Street/Bankers-Washington&#8221; complex.<br />
The financial elites have increasingly taken over government since Nixon, until now the federal government and most state governments are controlled by wealthy elites who are busy stalemating/dis-mantling government.<br />
Why? Wealthy elites/corporations single value considered before decision/action is dollars. Dollars are incapable of describing human and social values which constitute morality and consequently wealthy elites/corporations whose only value considered is dollars are amoral &#8211; they never consider morality in the first place.<br />
Government has the ability and responsibility to respond to and represent human and social values; which makes democratic government the enemy of wealthy elites and corporations &#8211; who have a decades old campaign to neuter, corrupt, stalemate, and destroy the ability of government to respond to human and social values. Government now only responds to dollars to the delight of Wall Street and Bankers.<br />
America doesn&#8217;t need to get rid of democratic government it needs to remove wealthy elites and corporations from ownership of government and free government to respond to human and social values which are what voters and citizens want from government and the major reasons for current discontent.<br />
The best example of the level of control of government exerted by wealthy elites/corporations is the so called &#8220;free-trade&#8221; agreements which are tools of the wealthy elites and corporations to destroy the American middle class and export their jobs to the lowest wage jurisdictions in the world.<br />
We don&#8217;t need to attack the government we need to rescue it from the clutches of Wall Street and Bankers and corporations who are busy corrupting government with mountains of money.<br />
Let&#8217;s get rid of corrupted government and get democratic government back which is capable of governing for the benefit of ALL Americans not just the top 5-10% of income earners.</p>
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		<title>By: Freedoms cry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Freedoms cry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 07:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A country that doesn&#039;t enforce it&#039;s laws is a country run by criminals. In this country the lawmakers are the lawbreakers. The core of the great USA is where the corruption lies. That&#039;s the picture of how deep our doom is. Long live the right to protest and democracy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A country that doesn&#8217;t enforce it&#8217;s laws is a country run by criminals. In this country the lawmakers are the lawbreakers. The core of the great USA is where the corruption lies. That&#8217;s the picture of how deep our doom is. Long live the right to protest and democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Fog Bottoms</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fog Bottoms]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 17:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael Moore is a massive Douche.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Moore is a massive Douche.</p>
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		<title>By: Future Cave Dweller</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Future Cave Dweller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 00:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only way we will survive globalization is through a strong balance between means tested socialism and well regulated capitalism.

With that said, we want to place all the blame on big government and big business for the war on the poor and middle class but no one wants to accept responsibilty for themselves.  We all are just as much to blame!  For the sake of argument, I&#039;ll use Walmart and BofA as examples.

People begin to shop at Walmart because their prices are fantastic.  Any way to save a few dollars right?  More people catch on to the savings at Walmart and this is how it begins.   Walmart then uses this influx of cash to buy out the &quot;mom and pops&quot; leaving some communities no other choice but to now do all their shopping at walmart.  

In their efforts to pursue the almighty &quot;bottom line&quot;, Walmart uses this further influx of cash to lobby politicians to allow the export of production jobs.  People still haven&#039;t woken up yet.  They just shrug and drive around in circles trying to find a parking spot and after spending an hour or two traversing the football field sized store looking for the items they need that are &quot;randomly&quot; placed around the store, people never take the time to aquestion why EVERYTHING they just bought is all made in China and what that means or never quite able to look at blue smocked person in the eye that was once their local pharmascist and know each other by name.  

In the mean time, their own lives have become harder, goods, fuel and services cost more and they&#039;re having to work longer and harder to pay for benefits, retirement, cars, homes and education, while the quality of these things are dramatically decreasing!  So in an effort to continue to save some money of our bottom line we move our money from the local community banks and credit unions to BofA as they&#039;re offering a few hundreds of a percentage point savings on mortgage, car, student loans and savings and some great introductory offers on credit cards (as long as you don&#039;t read the fine print).  Now BofA is flush with new influx of cash as well so they in turn lobby our politicians to deregulate all those pesky rules that prohibit them from a greedy cash grab at their conumers expense, without a care of what will happen to the future of the economy.  They got theirs right?  Isn&#039;t that our countries motto?  &quot;What&#039;s in it for me and the hell with everyone else&quot;?  Only we seemed to have forgotten the lessons of history and that an individual does not make a community.  

When all this began to happen, did people stop shopping at Walmart, nope!  Did people pull their money from BofA, nope!  Did people elect someone else that hasn&#039;t been in DC for decades, nope!  Instead we want to blame Michael Moore, who has gotten rich trying to warn people for decades to open their eyes and pay attention and do something!  We want to blame the teachers unions.  Damn their greed!  After spending decades trying to educate our snot-nosed, selfish brats with little resources and at great expense to themselves, shame on them for wanting to secure their futures! 

We may want to blame everyone else for our current misery and impending doom but at he end of the day, every single one of us is to blame for our future demise.  But hey, it feels good though doesn&#039;t it?  Let&#039;s blame the liberal or the neo con for all our woes.  Let&#039;s blame the atheists or the bible thumpers, they&#039;re the real villlans in all this, huh?  And in the mean time, when are we going to walmart?  Need to stop off at the bank first!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only way we will survive globalization is through a strong balance between means tested socialism and well regulated capitalism.</p>
<p>With that said, we want to place all the blame on big government and big business for the war on the poor and middle class but no one wants to accept responsibilty for themselves.  We all are just as much to blame!  For the sake of argument, I&#8217;ll use Walmart and BofA as examples.</p>
<p>People begin to shop at Walmart because their prices are fantastic.  Any way to save a few dollars right?  More people catch on to the savings at Walmart and this is how it begins.   Walmart then uses this influx of cash to buy out the &#8220;mom and pops&#8221; leaving some communities no other choice but to now do all their shopping at walmart.  </p>
<p>In their efforts to pursue the almighty &#8220;bottom line&#8221;, Walmart uses this further influx of cash to lobby politicians to allow the export of production jobs.  People still haven&#8217;t woken up yet.  They just shrug and drive around in circles trying to find a parking spot and after spending an hour or two traversing the football field sized store looking for the items they need that are &#8220;randomly&#8221; placed around the store, people never take the time to aquestion why EVERYTHING they just bought is all made in China and what that means or never quite able to look at blue smocked person in the eye that was once their local pharmascist and know each other by name.  </p>
<p>In the mean time, their own lives have become harder, goods, fuel and services cost more and they&#8217;re having to work longer and harder to pay for benefits, retirement, cars, homes and education, while the quality of these things are dramatically decreasing!  So in an effort to continue to save some money of our bottom line we move our money from the local community banks and credit unions to BofA as they&#8217;re offering a few hundreds of a percentage point savings on mortgage, car, student loans and savings and some great introductory offers on credit cards (as long as you don&#8217;t read the fine print).  Now BofA is flush with new influx of cash as well so they in turn lobby our politicians to deregulate all those pesky rules that prohibit them from a greedy cash grab at their conumers expense, without a care of what will happen to the future of the economy.  They got theirs right?  Isn&#8217;t that our countries motto?  &#8220;What&#8217;s in it for me and the hell with everyone else&#8221;?  Only we seemed to have forgotten the lessons of history and that an individual does not make a community.  </p>
<p>When all this began to happen, did people stop shopping at Walmart, nope!  Did people pull their money from BofA, nope!  Did people elect someone else that hasn&#8217;t been in DC for decades, nope!  Instead we want to blame Michael Moore, who has gotten rich trying to warn people for decades to open their eyes and pay attention and do something!  We want to blame the teachers unions.  Damn their greed!  After spending decades trying to educate our snot-nosed, selfish brats with little resources and at great expense to themselves, shame on them for wanting to secure their futures! </p>
<p>We may want to blame everyone else for our current misery and impending doom but at he end of the day, every single one of us is to blame for our future demise.  But hey, it feels good though doesn&#8217;t it?  Let&#8217;s blame the liberal or the neo con for all our woes.  Let&#8217;s blame the atheists or the bible thumpers, they&#8217;re the real villlans in all this, huh?  And in the mean time, when are we going to walmart?  Need to stop off at the bank first!</p>
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		<title>By: Union Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Union Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, handouts are great! I am a proud union teacher and I make sure I get mine. When you get your you won&#039;t care what it does to anyone else. See it&#039;s about me. Every man for himself. I get al sorts of high pay juicy benefits, tons of sick days and best of all a big fat pension. I make over a hundred grand a year and barely have to work and only work ( if you can call it that) 8 months a year. Moreover,Oh yea and I have tenure. You can&#039;t ever fire me.  I want more and I want you hard working stiffs to pay more taxes  for me. I want to start taking round the world vacations every year. So pay up. 

Yea yea yea. I hear it all the time. Tthis  will break the public and bankrupt the government. Well that&#039;s just too bad. I&#039;m getting mine. You worry about getting yours. how dare you try to stop the unions from bribing the democrat politicians with my dues. That is the union way. How do you think I got this cream puff job? So shut up and pay up!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, handouts are great! I am a proud union teacher and I make sure I get mine. When you get your you won&#8217;t care what it does to anyone else. See it&#8217;s about me. Every man for himself. I get al sorts of high pay juicy benefits, tons of sick days and best of all a big fat pension. I make over a hundred grand a year and barely have to work and only work ( if you can call it that) 8 months a year. Moreover,Oh yea and I have tenure. You can&#8217;t ever fire me.  I want more and I want you hard working stiffs to pay more taxes  for me. I want to start taking round the world vacations every year. So pay up. </p>
<p>Yea yea yea. I hear it all the time. Tthis  will break the public and bankrupt the government. Well that&#8217;s just too bad. I&#8217;m getting mine. You worry about getting yours. how dare you try to stop the unions from bribing the democrat politicians with my dues. That is the union way. How do you think I got this cream puff job? So shut up and pay up!</p>
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		<title>By: Afi K. James</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Afi K. James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2011 01:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael 
March 11th, 2011 at 5:54 am 
I do acknowledge that I should have been clearer about what Michael Moore said.

In this speech he does not call for increasing taxes on the middle class.

However, if you study his other works he does support higher taxes on the middle class.

In addition, his definition of the “wealthy” does include the top end of the middle class.

Anyone that is familiar with the broader works of Michael Moore would not be trying to defend him on this point.

Moore wants socialism, he wants bigger government and he wants more taxes.

Michael

Michael Moore is a globalist, socialist piece of filth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael<br />
March 11th, 2011 at 5:54 am<br />
I do acknowledge that I should have been clearer about what Michael Moore said.</p>
<p>In this speech he does not call for increasing taxes on the middle class.</p>
<p>However, if you study his other works he does support higher taxes on the middle class.</p>
<p>In addition, his definition of the “wealthy” does include the top end of the middle class.</p>
<p>Anyone that is familiar with the broader works of Michael Moore would not be trying to defend him on this point.</p>
<p>Moore wants socialism, he wants bigger government and he wants more taxes.</p>
<p>Michael</p>
<p>Michael Moore is a globalist, socialist piece of filth.</p>
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