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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 23:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some People just dont get it...

&quot;El Pollo de Oro 
July 28th, 2010 at 2:28 am 
 Problem: a country in which the majority of people are too poor to afford anything other than the basics (if they can even afford that much) is a country doomed to failure. Minus an American middle class, companies like Apple and Microsoft won’t have nearly enough Americans to sell their products to. &quot;


There are billions of other people outside the USA!  Wake up.  China and India are now consumers.  They do not need us anymore.  Cheaper labor and new markets.  The day of us getting all the comodities and exploiting labor are coming to a close.  The rich are fine.  The consumer here is done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some People just dont get it&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;El Pollo de Oro<br />
July 28th, 2010 at 2:28 am<br />
 Problem: a country in which the majority of people are too poor to afford anything other than the basics (if they can even afford that much) is a country doomed to failure. Minus an American middle class, companies like Apple and Microsoft won’t have nearly enough Americans to sell their products to. &#8221;</p>
<p>There are billions of other people outside the USA!  Wake up.  China and India are now consumers.  They do not need us anymore.  Cheaper labor and new markets.  The day of us getting all the comodities and exploiting labor are coming to a close.  The rich are fine.  The consumer here is done.</p>
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		<title>By: Taylor White, PHD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taylor White, PHD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 22:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but I am slow.  

I dont get the handouts.  

So, you take money from the tax payers...and then give it back to other people.  

Tax payers lose a job.  

How do the other people get the tax payers handouts who just lost their job?

I know, lets get everyone jobs. 

Hooray!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but I am slow.  </p>
<p>I dont get the handouts.  </p>
<p>So, you take money from the tax payers&#8230;and then give it back to other people.  </p>
<p>Tax payers lose a job.  </p>
<p>How do the other people get the tax payers handouts who just lost their job?</p>
<p>I know, lets get everyone jobs. </p>
<p>Hooray!</p>
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		<title>By: Newton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 15:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I hope the American population that goes without much suffering, as occurred in Brazil

With intent to break Mexico in the early &#039;80s, the U.S. ended up breaking Brazil. See the following consequences for the City of São Paulo.

After a major world crisis (1982) that ended with most of the 250,000 jobs in the Industries of the district of Santo Amaro (São Paulo), misery and violence erupted in the region, as well as the slums. Actually it was not the unemployed father who went to the crime, but their children who were not even old enough to labor market conditions, lack of money in the family (dysfunctional families) to get young people to leave their own money in order wrong. At this time Brazil was bankrupt; Moratorium, successive economic plans, and have not had for the poor or the very basics (sanitation, safety, education, health). Populations of the poorest states were still arriving in Sao Paulo continually increasing number of slums and crime. See the photos in this link:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11677808@N05/2275091459/ 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11677808@N05/3338745991/ 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11677808@N05/2275921416/in/photostream/ 

Our Iraq in 1988--- Although they are all linked to the urban area, neighborhoods like this photo are like small cities independent, physically separated only by the rugged terrain of the region. You live the life of the neighborhood, knows the majority of its inhabitants and learns all about him. Through the popular &quot;Talking newspaper&quot; could compute 100 homicides from 1985 to 1995 in this small area of the photo,(links) most young people involved with drugs and / or crime. (All this without considering the Caiçara - There is another &quot;Independent City.&quot; ) Indices in the Middle of the entire Lilac for the time it was 10 deaths per year per km2 (Total of 150 per year in its 15 km2-Capão Redondo District). Of 150 deaths per year in the Lilac Whole number dropped to about 15 / 20 per year soon after 2000. In every metropolis (Sao Paulo), were 10,000 homicides per year (1985-1999). now that number was reduced by 70% Hopefully Brazil will pass through this new World Crisis (2009) without these types of consequence to happen again !!!!!!!!!!!

P.S.:Thank God, the crisis is over and Brazil will grow 7% in 2010 and 4% in 2011. By 2015 Brazil will be the 6th World economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I hope the American population that goes without much suffering, as occurred in Brazil</p>
<p>With intent to break Mexico in the early &#8217;80s, the U.S. ended up breaking Brazil. See the following consequences for the City of São Paulo.</p>
<p>After a major world crisis (1982) that ended with most of the 250,000 jobs in the Industries of the district of Santo Amaro (São Paulo), misery and violence erupted in the region, as well as the slums. Actually it was not the unemployed father who went to the crime, but their children who were not even old enough to labor market conditions, lack of money in the family (dysfunctional families) to get young people to leave their own money in order wrong. At this time Brazil was bankrupt; Moratorium, successive economic plans, and have not had for the poor or the very basics (sanitation, safety, education, health). Populations of the poorest states were still arriving in Sao Paulo continually increasing number of slums and crime. See the photos in this link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/11677808@N05/2275091459/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/11677808@N05/2275091459/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/11677808@N05/3338745991/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/11677808@N05/3338745991/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/11677808@N05/2275921416/in/photostream/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/11677808@N05/2275921416/in/photostream/</a> </p>
<p>Our Iraq in 1988&#8212; Although they are all linked to the urban area, neighborhoods like this photo are like small cities independent, physically separated only by the rugged terrain of the region. You live the life of the neighborhood, knows the majority of its inhabitants and learns all about him. Through the popular &#8220;Talking newspaper&#8221; could compute 100 homicides from 1985 to 1995 in this small area of the photo,(links) most young people involved with drugs and / or crime. (All this without considering the Caiçara &#8211; There is another &#8220;Independent City.&#8221; ) Indices in the Middle of the entire Lilac for the time it was 10 deaths per year per km2 (Total of 150 per year in its 15 km2-Capão Redondo District). Of 150 deaths per year in the Lilac Whole number dropped to about 15 / 20 per year soon after 2000. In every metropolis (Sao Paulo), were 10,000 homicides per year (1985-1999). now that number was reduced by 70% Hopefully Brazil will pass through this new World Crisis (2009) without these types of consequence to happen again !!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>P.S.:Thank God, the crisis is over and Brazil will grow 7% in 2010 and 4% in 2011. By 2015 Brazil will be the 6th World economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Slendertone US</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Slendertone US</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 23:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Believe me, when you try to start business in third countries, you meet many more serious barriers which are simply invisible from the USA. And they significantly increase your costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believe me, when you try to start business in third countries, you meet many more serious barriers which are simply invisible from the USA. And they significantly increase your costs.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe in JT</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe in JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Americans don&#039;t need handouts they need good jobs.  

So I applied for 10 jobs in the Los Angeles area.  All ten asked if I speaked Spanish.  I said no.  They said, we can&#039;t use ya.  Nuff said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Americans don&#8217;t need handouts they need good jobs.  </p>
<p>So I applied for 10 jobs in the Los Angeles area.  All ten asked if I speaked Spanish.  I said no.  They said, we can&#8217;t use ya.  Nuff said.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So where will wages level off at? I know in Guatemala they&#039;re are still working for .30/hr. So let&#039;s look for a median worldwide wage someday of maybe 2.50-4.00/hour.

Who will buy the products then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So where will wages level off at? I know in Guatemala they&#8217;re are still working for .30/hr. So let&#8217;s look for a median worldwide wage someday of maybe 2.50-4.00/hour.</p>
<p>Who will buy the products then?</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, what Americans need is a dose of reality, and they&#039;re going to get it. While the big bad corporations had a hand in the demise of production in our country, the American &quot;worker&quot; is certainly culpable as well. Worker greed has driven the majority of production costs through the roof, via unions. 

I&#039;m all for paying a good wage. But making $50 and $75 per hour (and higher) for slapping cars and widgets together is ridiculous. 

Guess what, you just found out YOU&#039;RE NOT WORTH that. Something the rest of us have know for a long time. 

Go into government work, I guess. After all, they seem to be hiring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, what Americans need is a dose of reality, and they&#8217;re going to get it. While the big bad corporations had a hand in the demise of production in our country, the American &#8220;worker&#8221; is certainly culpable as well. Worker greed has driven the majority of production costs through the roof, via unions. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for paying a good wage. But making $50 and $75 per hour (and higher) for slapping cars and widgets together is ridiculous. </p>
<p>Guess what, you just found out YOU&#8217;RE NOT WORTH that. Something the rest of us have know for a long time. </p>
<p>Go into government work, I guess. After all, they seem to be hiring.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Companies forgot that when they lay off workers and move away, they lay off customers. The effects are not immediate, but then, when was the last time a corporation had more than a &quot;next quarter&quot; plan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Companies forgot that when they lay off workers and move away, they lay off customers. The effects are not immediate, but then, when was the last time a corporation had more than a &#8220;next quarter&#8221; plan?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Carpenter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Carpenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a way out of the conundrum, but like anything worthwhile, it would not be easy. Contemplating the luist, I would describe it as impossible.  Something only God could accomplish, in fact...

Quickly summed up:

The population of the US must be taught to think logically instead of solely through emotion.  

The powers that be should all be arrested and tried for high treason.  Corporate, legal and political.

Pretend money must go away and be replaced by real money - how about using gold, silver and cupro-nickel and copper coins?   

A fresh start should be given to all with the new money, as happened in post WWII Germany when the old Reichmark was aboloshed and everyone was given a set amount of new Deutchmarks (this, because the black marketeers were the only wealthy people and it cut them off at the neck)

All laws should be in a book smaller tjan the Old Testament, with states taking precedence over federal.

Taxation should be on consumption only, including small federal import tariffs which would level the playing field for US wages.

The US should deport all illegals, close the border (which means to say, becomes a viable nation again), and only let people in who do so legally.  

Finally, perhaps it is an idea to ask that US companies working in the US solely, are taxed at a lesser level than multinationals, in order to level the playing field a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a way out of the conundrum, but like anything worthwhile, it would not be easy. Contemplating the luist, I would describe it as impossible.  Something only God could accomplish, in fact&#8230;</p>
<p>Quickly summed up:</p>
<p>The population of the US must be taught to think logically instead of solely through emotion.  </p>
<p>The powers that be should all be arrested and tried for high treason.  Corporate, legal and political.</p>
<p>Pretend money must go away and be replaced by real money &#8211; how about using gold, silver and cupro-nickel and copper coins?   </p>
<p>A fresh start should be given to all with the new money, as happened in post WWII Germany when the old Reichmark was aboloshed and everyone was given a set amount of new Deutchmarks (this, because the black marketeers were the only wealthy people and it cut them off at the neck)</p>
<p>All laws should be in a book smaller tjan the Old Testament, with states taking precedence over federal.</p>
<p>Taxation should be on consumption only, including small federal import tariffs which would level the playing field for US wages.</p>
<p>The US should deport all illegals, close the border (which means to say, becomes a viable nation again), and only let people in who do so legally.  </p>
<p>Finally, perhaps it is an idea to ask that US companies working in the US solely, are taxed at a lesser level than multinationals, in order to level the playing field a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Pangea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pangea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mainstreet just doesn&#039;t understand the magnitude of this crisis. They are blind-fed that history says this &amp; that. The media certainly doesn&#039;t understand what&#039;s coming. Bernanke (Mr. optimist) even stated we are experiencing &quot;unusual uncertainty&quot;. For a man who didn&#039;t see the housing bubble or economic crisis coming, that is a very scary statement. So basically, if the FED has no idea what happened, let alone how to fix it, I&#039;d take the hint that things are much worse than expected, and move in with relatives. For even if you find a job, it won&#039;t pay the bills by the time this thing ends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mainstreet just doesn&#8217;t understand the magnitude of this crisis. They are blind-fed that history says this &amp; that. The media certainly doesn&#8217;t understand what&#8217;s coming. Bernanke (Mr. optimist) even stated we are experiencing &#8220;unusual uncertainty&#8221;. For a man who didn&#8217;t see the housing bubble or economic crisis coming, that is a very scary statement. So basically, if the FED has no idea what happened, let alone how to fix it, I&#8217;d take the hint that things are much worse than expected, and move in with relatives. For even if you find a job, it won&#8217;t pay the bills by the time this thing ends.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Lieberman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Lieberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is almost nothing I can agree with in your post.

Assuming the stats are correct (and even if they&#039;re flawed they reveal a definite trend) here is what I think:

1. Americans should stop using housing and cars as a proxy for economic vitality.  The only relevant index of economic vitality that makes sense to me is making something, selling it to someone else at a profit and having free cash flow - see http://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/freecashflow.asp

2. Your logic is flawed.
&lt;i&gt;Smart, highly educated people (for example - chip designers) don&#039;t make 86 cents/hour anywhere in the world.  The US should be competing on innovation not complaining about Indonesians who make 86c/hour - which is a job market the US left over 40 years ago.
The reality is that no matter how smart, how strong, how educated or how hard working American workers are, they just cannot compete with people who are desperate to put in 10 to 12 hour days at less than a dollar an hour on the other side of the world. &lt;/i&gt;


Of course Americans can compete - they just have to adjust their priorities to innovation, good education and industrial production instead of cars, football, big houses and what Lindsay Lohan will do in jail.

I would say that unfortunately I agree with the author of this blog in being pessimistic that this administration will understand these most basic notions

Danny Lieberman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is almost nothing I can agree with in your post.</p>
<p>Assuming the stats are correct (and even if they&#8217;re flawed they reveal a definite trend) here is what I think:</p>
<p>1. Americans should stop using housing and cars as a proxy for economic vitality.  The only relevant index of economic vitality that makes sense to me is making something, selling it to someone else at a profit and having free cash flow &#8211; see <a href="http://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/freecashflow.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/freecashflow.asp</a></p>
<p>2. Your logic is flawed.<br />
<i>Smart, highly educated people (for example &#8211; chip designers) don&#8217;t make 86 cents/hour anywhere in the world.  The US should be competing on innovation not complaining about Indonesians who make 86c/hour &#8211; which is a job market the US left over 40 years ago.<br />
The reality is that no matter how smart, how strong, how educated or how hard working American workers are, they just cannot compete with people who are desperate to put in 10 to 12 hour days at less than a dollar an hour on the other side of the world. </i></p>
<p>Of course Americans can compete &#8211; they just have to adjust their priorities to innovation, good education and industrial production instead of cars, football, big houses and what Lindsay Lohan will do in jail.</p>
<p>I would say that unfortunately I agree with the author of this blog in being pessimistic that this administration will understand these most basic notions</p>
<p>Danny Lieberman</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is all just the begining.  We really havn&#039;t seen nothing yet.  The labor market will balance it out until americans are poor and broke like the rest of the global working class.  Companies simply have no use for American workers any more.  Why would they?  We all want to get paid $60 an hour to sit around and play on Facebook while the rest of the world is crying blood just to eat.  We will NEVER get back all these jobs, we will NEVER make as much money as we used to, we will NEVER be as prosperous as we were.  The truth is the golden age for the American Middle class is already dead it just that people are still in the grief stage of denial.  In 5-10 years we will all understand that its gone and never coming back again.  From here there is no Hope only pain and the only people that will truely be successful is those who catch on now and work their asses off before the rest of American wakes up to the new reality....you are no longer as relevant as you envision yourself to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all just the begining.  We really havn&#8217;t seen nothing yet.  The labor market will balance it out until americans are poor and broke like the rest of the global working class.  Companies simply have no use for American workers any more.  Why would they?  We all want to get paid $60 an hour to sit around and play on Facebook while the rest of the world is crying blood just to eat.  We will NEVER get back all these jobs, we will NEVER make as much money as we used to, we will NEVER be as prosperous as we were.  The truth is the golden age for the American Middle class is already dead it just that people are still in the grief stage of denial.  In 5-10 years we will all understand that its gone and never coming back again.  From here there is no Hope only pain and the only people that will truely be successful is those who catch on now and work their asses off before the rest of American wakes up to the new reality&#8230;.you are no longer as relevant as you envision yourself to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Wil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I very much agree with you, and so do many others in the blogosphere. 
But while they continually point out the problems, we actually offer a pragmatic solution.
http://letthemfail.us/about

-Wil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I very much agree with you, and so do many others in the blogosphere.<br />
But while they continually point out the problems, we actually offer a pragmatic solution.<br />
<a href="http://letthemfail.us/about" rel="nofollow">http://letthemfail.us/about</a></p>
<p>-Wil</p>
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		<title>By: tdf</title>
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		<dc:creator>tdf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe the govmt needs to require service/retail jobs to be fulltime jobs and to be at pay &amp; benefit levels of our former manufacturing positions.  Afterall, these are the types of jobs that can&#039;t be moved overseas as easily.  It would bring about inflation, but isn&#039;t our current problem related to deflation?  Another thing that would help people out is to get rid of temp agencies, they&#039;re more like pimp agencies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe the govmt needs to require service/retail jobs to be fulltime jobs and to be at pay &amp; benefit levels of our former manufacturing positions.  Afterall, these are the types of jobs that can&#8217;t be moved overseas as easily.  It would bring about inflation, but isn&#8217;t our current problem related to deflation?  Another thing that would help people out is to get rid of temp agencies, they&#8217;re more like pimp agencies.</p>
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		<title>By: bachu</title>
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		<dc:creator>bachu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I can say is that – Vic Puri is a race traitor.  He is trying to put down the hardworking intelligent people of China and India.  The basic problem is the incompetence and immorality at the highest levels. Moreover why should Americans work when they can get $350 + per week for the rest of their lives sitting at home watching TV and eating junk food?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I can say is that – Vic Puri is a race traitor.  He is trying to put down the hardworking intelligent people of China and India.  The basic problem is the incompetence and immorality at the highest levels. Moreover why should Americans work when they can get $350 + per week for the rest of their lives sitting at home watching TV and eating junk food?</p>
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		<title>By: El Pollo de Oro</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Pollo de Oro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 02:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ruling class oligarchy in this neo-feudalist Third World hellhole called The Banana Republic of America (formerly the USA) love high unemployment, widespread poverty and desperation because that is how they keep their slaves under their iron boots. The oligarchy wanted to wipe out the American middle class, and they are getting their wish. Problem: a country in which the majority of people are too poor to afford anything other than the basics (if they can even afford that much) is a country doomed to failure. Minus an American middle class, companies like Apple and Microsoft won&#039;t have nearly enough Americans to sell their products to. 

Alex Jones was absolutely right when he told Chris Matthews, &quot;We are in deep tyranny......deep, deep.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ruling class oligarchy in this neo-feudalist Third World hellhole called The Banana Republic of America (formerly the USA) love high unemployment, widespread poverty and desperation because that is how they keep their slaves under their iron boots. The oligarchy wanted to wipe out the American middle class, and they are getting their wish. Problem: a country in which the majority of people are too poor to afford anything other than the basics (if they can even afford that much) is a country doomed to failure. Minus an American middle class, companies like Apple and Microsoft won&#8217;t have nearly enough Americans to sell their products to. </p>
<p>Alex Jones was absolutely right when he told Chris Matthews, &#8220;We are in deep tyranny&#8230;&#8230;deep, deep.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thing is not even effecting the market. There must be lots of people out there losing money.

Personally I follow the guy that called the market crash in 2008 and he belives there is something big coming. Look out if you have money in the market here. Have a look at his free videos.

http://www.forecastfortomorrow.com/ftmembers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thing is not even effecting the market. There must be lots of people out there losing money.</p>
<p>Personally I follow the guy that called the market crash in 2008 and he belives there is something big coming. Look out if you have money in the market here. Have a look at his free videos.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.forecastfortomorrow.com/ftmembers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.forecastfortomorrow.com/ftmembers/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pappy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pappy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As bad as that sounds it&#039;s even worse when you consider that the few surviving U.S. manufacturers owe their survival to investment in technologies that facilitate the replacement of employees. Even small mom and pop businesses are suffering. Who can profitably operate a restaurant that competes with the franchises that have replaced small independant operations? What chance does a small motel have competing against the franchised corporate oligopolies? And yet Cavuto, Forbes, Kudlow and their ilk continue to suggest that tax cuts for business are the answer to our economic woes. Trickle down economics might have had some merit during the Reagan years. That was before NAFTA and before China&#039;s entry into the WTO. That era preceeded the exponential growth of technological job displacement as well. Recovery from this recession won&#039;t be due to previously held jobs returning. Those jobs are now the property of our foreign neighbors or, in many cases, performed by unpaid equipment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As bad as that sounds it&#8217;s even worse when you consider that the few surviving U.S. manufacturers owe their survival to investment in technologies that facilitate the replacement of employees. Even small mom and pop businesses are suffering. Who can profitably operate a restaurant that competes with the franchises that have replaced small independant operations? What chance does a small motel have competing against the franchised corporate oligopolies? And yet Cavuto, Forbes, Kudlow and their ilk continue to suggest that tax cuts for business are the answer to our economic woes. Trickle down economics might have had some merit during the Reagan years. That was before NAFTA and before China&#8217;s entry into the WTO. That era preceeded the exponential growth of technological job displacement as well. Recovery from this recession won&#8217;t be due to previously held jobs returning. Those jobs are now the property of our foreign neighbors or, in many cases, performed by unpaid equipment.</p>
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		<title>By: Timmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need to oust the incumbents (except for  a very few) and get people to run who will shrink government and repeal tons of laws that weight down job makers. 

I&#039;m an entrepreneur and I&#039;m not going to risk expanding and hire, until I know if my taxes are going up next year, because if they are, the risk isn&#039;t worth the bother, which got a whole lot bigger with the over 8000 pages of new legislation passed this year alone.

So far the impact of the CC bill and fin reg to me is, I just received notice of doubling of bank fees, and my Exxon card just jumped to 19% citing &quot;the cost of the credit business has increased substantially&quot;, and the worse thing I can&#039;t even get a loan with 100% collateral. That&#039;s right I wanted to take out a loan for the purpose to build up positive credit record and even with the full amount of what I wanted to borrow in the bank, they wouldn&#039;t give me the loan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to oust the incumbents (except for  a very few) and get people to run who will shrink government and repeal tons of laws that weight down job makers. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m an entrepreneur and I&#8217;m not going to risk expanding and hire, until I know if my taxes are going up next year, because if they are, the risk isn&#8217;t worth the bother, which got a whole lot bigger with the over 8000 pages of new legislation passed this year alone.</p>
<p>So far the impact of the CC bill and fin reg to me is, I just received notice of doubling of bank fees, and my Exxon card just jumped to 19% citing &#8220;the cost of the credit business has increased substantially&#8221;, and the worse thing I can&#8217;t even get a loan with 100% collateral. That&#8217;s right I wanted to take out a loan for the purpose to build up positive credit record and even with the full amount of what I wanted to borrow in the bank, they wouldn&#8217;t give me the loan.</p>
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		<title>By: dekkard</title>
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		<dc:creator>dekkard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grumpy,

You are right about freedom.  Debt slavery is a real slavery, but its also a mirage and (in my case at least) evaporates with just a little nudge in the right direction intellectually.

The squeamish feeling you conjure is that sense of failure programmed into the consumer mindset many still need to confront.  It is this sort of revelation each American Dreamer needs for their personal awakening and I believe that the transformation on the macro scale will not be a &quot;Giving up&quot; of anything but a favorable evolution instead.

Hold Your Fire!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grumpy,</p>
<p>You are right about freedom.  Debt slavery is a real slavery, but its also a mirage and (in my case at least) evaporates with just a little nudge in the right direction intellectually.</p>
<p>The squeamish feeling you conjure is that sense of failure programmed into the consumer mindset many still need to confront.  It is this sort of revelation each American Dreamer needs for their personal awakening and I believe that the transformation on the macro scale will not be a &#8220;Giving up&#8221; of anything but a favorable evolution instead.</p>
<p>Hold Your Fire!</p>
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