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		<title>By: Shaula</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/the-coming-doctor-shortage#comment-365638</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2015 15:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh My.....you said the truth and it is unbelievable what is showing up on our hospital floors......never worked, now have insurance, infected from heroin injections, stay for at least a week, narcotics in unbelievable amounts that would kill the unaddicted person, antibiotics to boot, they are demanding too.  What is in the next room?  A guy who worked all his life, wore out a joint, got it replaced and is told to go home a day after surgery.  They are coming and the &quot;system&quot; will not be able to maintain the drain from the newly insured drug seeking population. So I will continue my job taking care of those who did NOTHING to get that insurance while they whine that they want their narcotics &quot;NOW!&quot;  ( Now Uninsured RN)thanks to Obamacare
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh My&#8230;..you said the truth and it is unbelievable what is showing up on our hospital floors&#8230;&#8230;never worked, now have insurance, infected from heroin injections, stay for at least a week, narcotics in unbelievable amounts that would kill the unaddicted person, antibiotics to boot, they are demanding too.  What is in the next room?  A guy who worked all his life, wore out a joint, got it replaced and is told to go home a day after surgery.  They are coming and the &#8220;system&#8221; will not be able to maintain the drain from the newly insured drug seeking population. So I will continue my job taking care of those who did NOTHING to get that insurance while they whine that they want their narcotics &#8220;NOW!&#8221;  ( Now Uninsured RN)thanks to Obamacare</p>
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		<title>By: DrJKH</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/the-coming-doctor-shortage#comment-263768</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 14:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, far less than 29% are in the AMA. And that is dominated, not by primary care physicians, but by students and residents who have automatic, free memberships and are usually young, dumb, and supported by their parents and have not yet had to deal with the real world. Many of them, too, are foreign medical grads, who are poorly educated and come from communist countries and think that way because it&#039;s all they know.


Further, you clearly don&#039;t know what YOU are talking about either. MD is the initials for one of two degrees one can get to become a physician, not an abbreviation for doctor. The abbreviation for doctor is Dr. Further, plurals don&#039;t use apostrophes. MDs is correct pluralization of MD; MD&#039;s is incorrect. MD&#039;s is possessive. Next time, try to form a coherent thought before posting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, far less than 29% are in the AMA. And that is dominated, not by primary care physicians, but by students and residents who have automatic, free memberships and are usually young, dumb, and supported by their parents and have not yet had to deal with the real world. Many of them, too, are foreign medical grads, who are poorly educated and come from communist countries and think that way because it&#8217;s all they know.</p>
<p>Further, you clearly don&#8217;t know what YOU are talking about either. MD is the initials for one of two degrees one can get to become a physician, not an abbreviation for doctor. The abbreviation for doctor is Dr. Further, plurals don&#8217;t use apostrophes. MDs is correct pluralization of MD; MD&#8217;s is incorrect. MD&#8217;s is possessive. Next time, try to form a coherent thought before posting.</p>
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		<title>By: DrJKH</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/the-coming-doctor-shortage#comment-263767</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DrJKH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 14:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While you are correct that the AMA is a problem, it&#039;s not the problem YOU are railing against. The AMA doesn&#039;t accredit medical schools or residency programs. At least try to know what you are talking about before you go spouting off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While you are correct that the AMA is a problem, it&#8217;s not the problem YOU are railing against. The AMA doesn&#8217;t accredit medical schools or residency programs. At least try to know what you are talking about before you go spouting off.</p>
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		<title>By: DrJKH</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/the-coming-doctor-shortage#comment-263766</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DrJKH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 14:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And HOW exactly do you know what is taught in medical school since you&#039;ve never even set foot inside one?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And HOW exactly do you know what is taught in medical school since you&#8217;ve never even set foot inside one?</p>
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		<title>By: Kera</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/the-coming-doctor-shortage#comment-250654</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 02:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had a baby girl by C Section in April of this year. The bills keep coming in. It was funny at first, now it&#039;s just ridiculous and scary. Before insurance, one of our bills was $10,000 - TEN THOUSAND dollars. Guess what it was for?... No, not the surgery, not the &quot;immunization&quot; that she NEVER even had... It was for the room. Yep, just the room.. The 3-day stay in a room that I needed to recover from major surgery in! I did not believe it. $10000? I still don&#039;t. I still don&#039;t understand HOW and WHY it would be so expensive. It makes no sense. Luckily, our insurance paid a TON of that bill but now we still have $600 being ripped out of our pockets and when you have a new baby, it isn&#039;t like you have hundreds of dollars to hand out! And that&#039;s just one bill. Next time I&#039;m having a home birth with a doula/midwife. This is just ridiculous. It&#039;s sad that we&#039;re relying less and less on the hospitals that are supposed to save our lives. I&#039;m planning to Major in Neuroscience but didn&#039;t realize until now that the doctors have it just as hard. I still plan on being one.. But am realizing I might regret it later. 6 years of college, then 4 years of Med school.. Everything will pile up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a baby girl by C Section in April of this year. The bills keep coming in. It was funny at first, now it&#8217;s just ridiculous and scary. Before insurance, one of our bills was $10,000 &#8211; TEN THOUSAND dollars. Guess what it was for?&#8230; No, not the surgery, not the &#8220;immunization&#8221; that she NEVER even had&#8230; It was for the room. Yep, just the room.. The 3-day stay in a room that I needed to recover from major surgery in! I did not believe it. $10000? I still don&#8217;t. I still don&#8217;t understand HOW and WHY it would be so expensive. It makes no sense. Luckily, our insurance paid a TON of that bill but now we still have $600 being ripped out of our pockets and when you have a new baby, it isn&#8217;t like you have hundreds of dollars to hand out! And that&#8217;s just one bill. Next time I&#8217;m having a home birth with a doula/midwife. This is just ridiculous. It&#8217;s sad that we&#8217;re relying less and less on the hospitals that are supposed to save our lives. I&#8217;m planning to Major in Neuroscience but didn&#8217;t realize until now that the doctors have it just as hard. I still plan on being one.. But am realizing I might regret it later. 6 years of college, then 4 years of Med school.. Everything will pile up.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Rangel (IMG)</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/the-coming-doctor-shortage#comment-250505</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 19:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The solution is Simple! Just Import More Foreign Physicians from Mexico! We&#039;re Bilingual! We Work Harder! We work with patients from the start not with dolls like american students do! In Mexico we have an overpopulation of doctors! and most of us speak english fluently! and we&#039;re already not getting well paid in our country so... that&#039;s the best solution!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The solution is Simple! Just Import More Foreign Physicians from Mexico! We&#8217;re Bilingual! We Work Harder! We work with patients from the start not with dolls like american students do! In Mexico we have an overpopulation of doctors! and most of us speak english fluently! and we&#8217;re already not getting well paid in our country so&#8230; that&#8217;s the best solution!</p>
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		<title>By: DR Mehta</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/the-coming-doctor-shortage#comment-233082</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DR Mehta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 05:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This Whole scenario is  very mis fortunate and system made.
 On one side Shortage of Doctors and on other side Thousands of
Waiting to Get Residency and Struggling to be admitted as Students here and abroad. 
So many Qualified and experienced Physicians of this Country and  from Abroad  are not utilized  and wasting their knowledge, skills and spirit of service. System to get License need some  practical // humanist and Economic / Just change and approach. Sense of Business every where makes no SENSE . At Last this is Noble and Human Profession and solution should be that way without Political // Economic  and business stuffs .  God Bless.  

One Retired  but not Tired  Doctor]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Whole scenario is  very mis fortunate and system made.<br />
 On one side Shortage of Doctors and on other side Thousands of<br />
Waiting to Get Residency and Struggling to be admitted as Students here and abroad.<br />
So many Qualified and experienced Physicians of this Country and  from Abroad  are not utilized  and wasting their knowledge, skills and spirit of service. System to get License need some  practical // humanist and Economic / Just change and approach. Sense of Business every where makes no SENSE . At Last this is Noble and Human Profession and solution should be that way without Political // Economic  and business stuffs .  God Bless.  </p>
<p>One Retired  but not Tired  Doctor</p>
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		<title>By: Babu G. Ranganathan</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/the-coming-doctor-shortage#comment-193359</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2012 01:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doctors are not taught nutritional healing and prevention in medical schools. There are many natural (food based) medical treatments for prevention and treatment of disease that have been tested and proved by scientists, but these things are not taught in medical schools.

For example, certain foods, with a high success rate, have been known to prevent and even successfully treat cancer, but there&#039;s not much money that can be made from these because natural elements and compounds cannot be patented. Only artificial, man-made, products, like what the drug companies produce, can be patented, but they come with many adverse side effects and low success rate in treating disease. But, because they can be patented, there&#039;s much money to be made from them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doctors are not taught nutritional healing and prevention in medical schools. There are many natural (food based) medical treatments for prevention and treatment of disease that have been tested and proved by scientists, but these things are not taught in medical schools.</p>
<p>For example, certain foods, with a high success rate, have been known to prevent and even successfully treat cancer, but there&#8217;s not much money that can be made from these because natural elements and compounds cannot be patented. Only artificial, man-made, products, like what the drug companies produce, can be patented, but they come with many adverse side effects and low success rate in treating disease. But, because they can be patented, there&#8217;s much money to be made from them.</p>
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		<title>By: M.D.</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/the-coming-doctor-shortage#comment-191941</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M.D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 17:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Craig, you seem a bit bitter. 

It seems hard to compare the training of two careers, especially if you&#039;ve never been through one of the trainings you are comparing yourself to. Sort of like saying &quot;I just started a new exercise program, and its every bit as demanding as going through Marine boot camp&quot;. 

I have an MD. The training for it is pretty rough; first getting into medical school which requires exceptional credentials (which were not just handed out to anyone who comes from a &quot;just plain wealthy environment&quot;), then getting through med school, then the 30hr shifts, the 100hr weeks, the IOUs to family for quality time. All of which was payed for with debt of over $200K. I don&#039;t know how rough it is to be a clinical psychologist; I&#039;ve never done it. But I do know that there is one thing that a medical doctor has to deal with that other care providers don&#039;t. That is that &quot;the buck stops here&quot;. When all is said and done, its the MD who is responsible for giving the potentially lethal drug to a patient having a stroke, or find the hemmorhaging vessel and tie it off, or decide what chemotherapy to give. And we also have to live with the burden of the failures in a way that the non-decision makers will never have to. For that reason, yes, MDs do feel a bit entitled. 

For the record, I&#039;m all for a single-payer system, even if it means my personal salary drops. I do, however, feel that having an above-average salary is something that MDs earn. 

I also have a feeling that most MDs would be able to do just fine if they &quot;had to compete in the real job market&quot;, as the work-ethic, intelligence, and skill-set needed to become an MD in the first place is probably more generalizable than you are making it out to be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig, you seem a bit bitter. </p>
<p>It seems hard to compare the training of two careers, especially if you&#8217;ve never been through one of the trainings you are comparing yourself to. Sort of like saying &#8220;I just started a new exercise program, and its every bit as demanding as going through Marine boot camp&#8221;. </p>
<p>I have an MD. The training for it is pretty rough; first getting into medical school which requires exceptional credentials (which were not just handed out to anyone who comes from a &#8220;just plain wealthy environment&#8221;), then getting through med school, then the 30hr shifts, the 100hr weeks, the IOUs to family for quality time. All of which was payed for with debt of over $200K. I don&#8217;t know how rough it is to be a clinical psychologist; I&#8217;ve never done it. But I do know that there is one thing that a medical doctor has to deal with that other care providers don&#8217;t. That is that &#8220;the buck stops here&#8221;. When all is said and done, its the MD who is responsible for giving the potentially lethal drug to a patient having a stroke, or find the hemmorhaging vessel and tie it off, or decide what chemotherapy to give. And we also have to live with the burden of the failures in a way that the non-decision makers will never have to. For that reason, yes, MDs do feel a bit entitled. </p>
<p>For the record, I&#8217;m all for a single-payer system, even if it means my personal salary drops. I do, however, feel that having an above-average salary is something that MDs earn. </p>
<p>I also have a feeling that most MDs would be able to do just fine if they &#8220;had to compete in the real job market&#8221;, as the work-ethic, intelligence, and skill-set needed to become an MD in the first place is probably more generalizable than you are making it out to be.</p>
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		<title>By: AmusedDoc</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/the-coming-doctor-shortage#comment-191915</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These off-topic comments about naturopathic &quot;cures&quot; are amusing. They are also insulting. Not to me, even though I am a physician who has actually studied these topics in depth. They&#039;re insulting to the millions of patients who are suffering and dying from things like cancer. 

- If they only knew how simple cancer was!! It can easily be cured by diet and vitamins!! They should have read my blog!! They should have eaten more peas!! If they had, they would be alive and feeling great today!! And all those medical researchers who dedicate their careers to studying a disease are just idiots!! All they needed to do was read an online post from earthclinic.com and they would understand everything so much more clearly!! -  

I get irritated when people elude to medical science as more closed-minded then things such as holistic medicine. I see it as exactly the opposite - the entire point of science is the admission that we don&#039;t know all the answers and don&#039;t want to jump to conclusions. Anyone can say anything they want: &quot;toadstools cure HIV&quot;, &quot;asparagus stops gout&quot;, &quot;the sun revolves around the earth&quot;. Science then says &quot;Whoa, wait a minute... Lets actually test these things and see if there&#039;s any validity to them&quot;.  People who tout &quot;cures&quot; to complicated diseases through some sort of untested treatment are simply closed-minded and uninformed.

Oh, and our healthcare system is very flawed (to get back on topic).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These off-topic comments about naturopathic &#8220;cures&#8221; are amusing. They are also insulting. Not to me, even though I am a physician who has actually studied these topics in depth. They&#8217;re insulting to the millions of patients who are suffering and dying from things like cancer. </p>
<p>&#8211; If they only knew how simple cancer was!! It can easily be cured by diet and vitamins!! They should have read my blog!! They should have eaten more peas!! If they had, they would be alive and feeling great today!! And all those medical researchers who dedicate their careers to studying a disease are just idiots!! All they needed to do was read an online post from earthclinic.com and they would understand everything so much more clearly!! &#8211;  </p>
<p>I get irritated when people elude to medical science as more closed-minded then things such as holistic medicine. I see it as exactly the opposite &#8211; the entire point of science is the admission that we don&#8217;t know all the answers and don&#8217;t want to jump to conclusions. Anyone can say anything they want: &#8220;toadstools cure HIV&#8221;, &#8220;asparagus stops gout&#8221;, &#8220;the sun revolves around the earth&#8221;. Science then says &#8220;Whoa, wait a minute&#8230; Lets actually test these things and see if there&#8217;s any validity to them&#8221;.  People who tout &#8220;cures&#8221; to complicated diseases through some sort of untested treatment are simply closed-minded and uninformed.</p>
<p>Oh, and our healthcare system is very flawed (to get back on topic).</p>
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