The gay rights parades and flaunting themselves I didn’t mind. We had peace, for the most part. I mean, we all put up with the cat calls and tolerated the sexual harassing comments from a few of them, but most carried themselves with good demeanor’s and were good neighbors.

The problem is that a Federal judge decided to throw out our state constitution to overturn the gay marriage amendment in Utah. All the Leftists are backing the decision. We passed a CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT by a vote of 66% in favor of defining marriage as between a man and woman. This means that we have no right to the 9th and 10th amendments. We have no right to our own laws, and it’s starting to show. We did loose our liberty illegally (the federal government has no ability to alter a state’s constitution.)

Don’t even try and lecture me that they are the one’s enslaved. Utah just lost what little sovereignty we had. We are, again, completely under the jackboot of the feds.

And birth rates are not declining enough to stop population growth which is still increasing.

And yes, birthrates are declining. Look it up.

And who are you to say and who am i to say, what should be allowed and not allowed.

Its their choice!

And population is not exploding. I’ve seen the data and got copies of the documents from every site possible. We are declining.

And your comment about birth rate is hilarious. You are worried about our civilisation dying? Our civilisation is exploding!!…bursting with people!!

In ancient times high birth rate was required to keep up with high death rate, so as to maintain a stable population. And a stable population was required during those times because almost all industries required to keep the economy going… agriculture,manufacturing,wars were ‘labour intensive’ meaning they needed as many people as possible.

But now with a low death rate but a birth rate higher than that, population is high…leading to unemployment and thereby poverty and starvation because today industries required to keep the economy going are not as labour intensive compared to ancient times. And to make it worse they are becoming even less and less labour intensive every year. Since more and more farm machinery is requiring less and less farm hands every year. Even in the manufacturing industry..advanced technology,machinery, robots are making them those industries less labour intensive. Even sectors like finance, computer science, health care, travel,tourism you name it are able to produce more and more by using less and less labour per unit of output.

I am not implying we need homosexual couples to decrease population, i only bought up the population issue as an answer to you comment about birth rate.

All i am implying is the freedoms of homosexuals should not be tied to population issues or religious issues or constitutional issues.

Furthermore, God placed upon us the stewardship to “multiply and replenish the earth” to “have dominion over it”. He judges each person by their own deeds and sins; that’s true. But we do not have the authority to lecture to God or His Church for whatsoever we want. And that is also the other aspect of this that pro-gay marriage folks are trying to hide: the Church.

Gay couples are now trying to get Christian Churches to accept gay marriage. That is completely against God’s will. Man cannot force God’s Church through government to change doctrine. If successful, then Churches must either blaspheme God’s commandments, or stop performing marriages. Which is probably what will happen.

This is not about enslavement for the homosexuals – this is about bastardizing God and nature for political trendiness and influence.

As for pedophilia, this is the next avenue. Rumors here in Utah say there’s a brewing civil case that is planned to go before a federal judge here and might be used to legalize pedophilia. How will that go when an adult wishes to marry a child in a Church. If they aren’t allowed, then that’s enslavement, right?

And how can you compare paedophiles,rapists with homosexuals?

The issue we were originally talking about was enslavement. And not allowing them to marry is enslavement. Society has no right to judge or stop them..its between them and god.

God is the ultimate judge in these matters….not people.