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The United Nations Wants To Crash The World Economy In Order To Save The Environment

The United Nations says that the earth is in great danger and that the way you and I are living is the problem.  In a shocking new report entitled, “Resilient People, Resilient Planet: A Future Worth Choosing” the UN declares that the entire way that we currently approach economics needs to be changed.  Instead of focusing on things like “economic growth”, the UN is encouraging nations all over the world to start basing measurements of economic success on the goal of achieving “sustainable development”.  But there is a huge problem with that.  The UN says that what we are doing right now is “unsustainable” by definition, and the major industrialized nations of the western world are the biggest culprits.  According to the UN, since we are the ones that create the most carbon emissions and the most pollution, we are the ones that should make the biggest sacrifices.  In addition, since we have the most money, we should also be willing to finance the transition of the developing world to a “sustainable development” economy as well.  As you will see detailed in the rest of this article, the United Nations basically wants to crash the world economy in order to save the environment.  Considering the fact that the U.S. and Europe are in the midst of a horrible economic crisis and are already drowning in debt, this is something that we simply cannot afford.

There is certainly nothing wrong with taking care of the environment.  But what the United Nations wants is a fundamental restructuring of the global economy based on flawed science.

In this new UN report, we find the following statement….

Achieving sustainability requires us to transform the global economy. Tinkering on the margins will not do the job.

This is absolutely crucial to understand.

The folks over at the UN don’t just want to change things a little.

Their goal is a radical transformation of the entire world.

According to the United Nations, if we don’t implement their recommendations the consequences will be absolutely disastrous….

But what, then, is to be done if we are to make a real difference for the world’s people and the planet? We must grasp the dimensions of the challenge. We must recognize that the drivers of that challenge include unsustainable lifestyles, production and consumption patterns and the impact of population growth. As the global population grows from 7 billion to almost 9 billion by 2040, and the number of middle-class consumers increases by 3 billion over the next 20 years, the demand for resources will rise exponentially. By 2030, the world will need at least 50 percent more food, 45 percent more energy and 30 percent more water — all at a time when environmental boundaries are throwing up new limits to supply. This is true not least for climate change, which affects all aspects of human and planetary health.

So what changes are needed in order for us to achieve a “sustainable” global economy?

Well, the following are some of the disturbing recommendations that we find in the new UN report….

Raise Prices

According to the United Nations, we need to start significantly raising the prices of things that are made in an “unsustainable” way so that they reflect the “true cost” of their production….

Most goods and services sold today fail to bear the full environmental and social cost of production and consumption. Based on the science, we need to reach consensus, over time, on methodologies to price them properly. Costing environmental externalities could open new opportunities for green growth and green jobs

That means that you and I would start paying a lot more for the basic things that we need every day – food, gasoline, etc.

Carbon Taxes

The UN report also discusses the need to use regulations and taxation as tools to penalize economic activities that are not “sustainable”….

Establish natural resource and externality pricing instruments, including carbon pricing, through mechanisms such as taxation, regulation or emissions trading systems, by 2020

This is one of the favorite things that social engineers like to do.  They love to use taxation and regulations as weapons to get people to do the things they want.

Base Lending Decisions On Sustainable Development Criteria

The United Nations is actually suggesting that lending decisions be based on whether or not the money will be used for something “sustainable”….

Reform national fiscal and credit systems to provide long-term incentives for sustainable practices, as well as disincentives for unsustainable behaviour

Considering the fact that the entire global economy is based on credit, this is a very dangerous recommendation.

Green Jobs

The UN report also says that governments all over the world should seek to create as many “green jobs” as possible….

Governments should adopt and advance “green jobs” and decent work policies as a priority in their budgets and sustainable development strategies while creating conditions for new jobs in the private sector.

This is something that we have seen Barack Obama try to do, but obviously he has not had much success at it.

A New Economic Paradigm

According to the UN, the very way that we define “economic success” needs to be changed.  Instead of looking at statistics such as GDP and inflation, we should be measuring what we do by how much it gets us closer to a “sustainable world”….

Expanding how we measure progress in sustainable development by creating a sustainable development index or set of indicators

So an economic collapse could actually be “good” if we make “progress” toward the goal of sustainable development.

Wealthy Countries Funding The Sustainable Development Goals Of Poor Countries

The UN report makes it clear that you and I will be paying for sustainable development all over the world in addition to paying for our own transition to a sustainable economy….

Financing sustainable development requires vast new sources of capital from both private and public sources. It requires both mobilizing more public funds and using global and national capital to leverage global private capital through the development of incentives. Official development assistance will also remain critical for the sustainable development needs of low-income countries

But considering the fact that the United States is already flat broke, where are we going to come up with all of this money?

Teach Sustainable Development To Our Children

The United Nations also believes that this philosophy of “sustainable development” should be taught to children in public schools all over the globe….

Government and non-governmental entities should promote the concept of sustainable development and sustainable consumption, and these should be integrated into curricula of primary and secondary education.

Sadly, this agenda is already being pushed on our children in schools all over the United States.  When these children grow up, the concepts behind “sustainable development” will be second nature for them.

Population Control

Those that believe in sustainable development want to reduce carbon emissions by as much as possible.

When you sit down and really think about that, it becomes quite frightening.

Nearly every form of economic activity produces carbon emissions.

In fact, if you just sit in your home and breathe, you are producing carbon emissions.

So to them, you and I are the problem.

For those that are worried about man-made global warming, the math is simple.

The more people on earth, the higher the level of carbon emissions will be.

The less people on earth, the lower the level of carbon emissions will be.

So those that believe in sustainable development love to promote things that will reduce the human population of the earth.

In fact, we see this agenda reflected in one of the recommendations of the new UN report….

Ensuring universal access to quality and affordable family-planning and other sexual and reproductive rights and health services.

If more women have access to abortion facilities, then less babies will be born.  For those that believe in sustainable development, that is a good thing.

But the UN has been pushing this kind of agenda for a long time.

For example, the United Nations Population Fund released a report back in 2009 entitled “Facing a Changing World: Women, Population and Climate” that included the following very chilling statement….

“Each birth results not only in the emissions attributable to that person in his or her lifetime, but also the emissions of all his or her descendants. Hence, the emissions savings from intended or planned births multiply with time.”

This population control agenda is also being heavily promoted by many of the wealthiest people in the world.  Many big “philanthropists” such as Bill Gates are using their money to fund research into population control measures.  For example, Gates is currently funding research on “cutting edge” forms of birth control that could potentially be used all over the world.  The following comes from a recent Natural News article….

Mass vaccination is apparently not the only depopulation strategy being employed by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, as new research funded by the organization has developed a way to deliberately destroy sperm using ultrasound technology. BBC News reports that the Gates Foundation awarded a grant to researchers from the University of North Carolina (UNC) to develop this new method of contraception.

For their study, the UNC team tested ultrasound on lab rats and found that two 15-minute doses “significantly reduced” both sperm counts and sperm integrity. When administered two days apart through warm salt water, ultrasound caused the rats’ sperm counts to drop below ten million sperm per milliliter, which is five million less than the “sub-fertile” range, and stay that way for up to six months.

This population control agenda is one of the most frightening elements of sustainable development.  Many advocates of sustainable development would actually cheer if something suddenly caused the population of the earth to drop dramatically.

Much Stronger Global Governance

The new UN report also advocates stronger “international governance” by bodies such as the United Nations….

International institutions have a critical role. International governance for sustainable development must be strengthened by using existing institutions more dynamically and by considering the creation of a global sustainable development council and the adoption of sustainable development goals

But this has been the ultimate goal of these control freaks for a long time.  The idea is that a “global government” and a “global economy” will bring a great era of peace and prosperity to all of humanity.

Of course that is a complete and total lie, but there are a lot of people out there that actually believe this stuff.

In fact, the economic crisis that we are going through right now has renewed calls for a “global currency” which would be used by the whole world.

For example, you can watch banker Evelyn de Rothschild discuss the “need” for an “international currency” on Bloomberg Television in the following video….

The new UN report reflects this globalist agenda.  The report states that “the peoples of the world” are not going to put up with all of this “inequality” any longer and that they will be demanding that their national governments adopt a “sustainable development” agenda….

“The peoples of the world will simply not tolerate continued environmental devastation or the persistent inequality which offends deeply held universal principles of social justice. Citizens will no longer accept governments and corporations breaching their compact with them as custodians of a sustainable future for all. More generally, international, national and local governance across the world must fully embrace the requirements of a sustainable development future, as must civil society and the private sector.”

If you want to get a really good idea of what a “sustainable development” society would look like, just check out the video posted below….

If you do not want to end up living in a “Planned-opolis” where virtually everything you do is watched, tracked and controlled by bureaucratic control freaks, then you better say something now.

If the United Nations actually succeeded in implementing this agenda worldwide, it would crash the global economy and it would be the end of national sovereignty.

Unfortunately, many of those that are promoting this agenda are absolute fanatics about it because they are convinced that they are saving the planet.  They are so obsessed with “rescuing the earth” that they would do almost anything to all the rest of us in order to accomplish that goal.

Yes, we need to be concerned about the future of the planet, but the truth is that the “sustainable development” agenda is based on flawed science and it would make our economic problems far worse.

But the control freaks that are obsessed with “sustainable development” are going to continue to try to cram this agenda down our throats, so this is a battle that is likely to go on for many years.

  • Kevin2

    The populations of the developed nations has flatlined. If they have increased it was because of immigration both legal and illegal from the undeveloped nations.

    Regardless of the question the answer is globalization, nationalization and equalization.

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      A thin attempt by Gary2 to reinsert his lunacy into the equation.

      “Regardless of the question the answer is globalization, nationalization and equalization.”

      This stupidity is every bit the reason we are facing a global meltdown.

      • Kevin2

        Malcolm

        Yep…I’m not taking up for the validity. while the excuse may be “The Environment”, “Security” or any host of reasons everything government proposes in the end facilitates globalization, nationalization and equalization.

      • DamnTheWarGods

        Exactly

  • hoser

    Al Gore and the UN should vanish. That would be GREAT NEWS! Both are bad for humanity!

  • knightowl77

    I do not believe that they (the UN) really “want to save the planet”….

    Their real object is Power and Money, the scheme is that this will be accomplished through the hoax of global warming….The threats and consequences they insist are so dire, that there is no time to debate, no time to look for alternatives…

    The Global Warming zealots are useful idiots to the puppet masters, who simply want control. They will use any hoax, any scheme…They will partner up with any group that wants to overthrow the current system….

    “By the pricking of my thumb, something wicked this way comes”…

    • xander cross

      I agree with you on this point knightowl77. I also believe that they will try to wipe many people out by using food as an weapon.

      • DownWithLibs

        Funny, thats what the anti-Christ is suppose to do – get control of the worlds food and only by having his mark will you receive any. Makes one wonder.

        • Gary2

          Dude the nephelim are coming.

    • McKinley Morganfield

      “The Global Warming zealots are useful idiots to the puppet masters, who simply want control.”

      That is it in a nutshell.

    • bongstar

      this is absolutely correct, michale couldnt have it any more backwards. the envormentlist are a group of people who have been used by the banks. like you said useful idiots. the banks use them to disrupt, and control food supplys. also to disrupt and control money making ventures. the keystone pipeline is a very recent example though there are alot more that have been far more disasterous for the peoples wealth and far more benaficial for the bankesters wealth.

  • Terry

    Poor people in rich nations will be thrown under the bus. Do ANY of these fanatics have ANYTHING to say to poor people in rich nations?

  • mondobeyondo

    Oh, great. In the future, we’ll be living in a nice, clean, green world, full of rainbows, butterflies and hummingbirds, with the vast majority of people struggling to survive. Those of us who aren’t killed off first by abortion or famine.

    A “global government” is the whole idea the elite are planning. Complete with a world bank, world currency and world control. Control is what they’re after. The people in high places want to control and run your life.

    Sorry, the vast, vast majority of you are not invited to the party (unless you are one of the wealthy, influential 1%, or know someone who knows someone who knows a banker or politician). You’ll have to be content to be a slave in their New World Order. Work till you die, and let the government take your earnings and wealth, leaving you just enough to buy some clothes, bread and potatoes, and not much else. Most of us are already debt slaves – student loan debt, credit card debt, mortgage debt. Those in control can’t wait to tighten the noose in every way possible.

    Lovely, just lovely.

    • mondobeyondo

      It’s not about money. It’s about power and control. Once you have power and control over a nation, or a world, money and everything else is a piece of cake.

      • bongstar

        right on mondo! agin you nailed it on the head. it good to here another person that understands the truth.

      • Ron

        It’s always about money. Without money there’s no power. Without power there’s no control of the masses.

        • http://www.opednews.com/LuisMagno Luis Magno

          Money Power is at the epicenter.

    • DownWithLibs

      I remember when I first started hearing terms lightly tossed around like “World Bank”, “World Food Organization”, “World Court”…they just seemed to spring up overnight and no one in the MSM even batted an eye. Scary!!

      • BenjiK

        I have a feeling the MSM plays an integral role in the grand scheme…..

  • mark

    This is the next phase of the rewilding mindset. In rewilding these control freaks kill off the economy in a rural area in order to force people to move to cities. If a rural economy dies the doctors, stores, hospitals, schools and many other businesses go away and in turn make it hard for people to continue to live there. They do this by cutting off the water for farmes. Stopping loging and in turn the mills close down and all of the jobs with them. These control freaks are just trying to control everything now. I guess the forests were just a warm up or practice run.

  • r.bitting

    One would do well to attend to the future of his or her soul. ” For it is appointed for man once to die, and after that, the judgment. God desires all to be saved, please don’t reject the only way that God has provided for mankind to be saved, by repenting and trusting in the sacrificial death of Jesus Christ on the cross. All we like sheep have gone astray. We have turned, every one to his own way, And the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all. He bore the sin of many and made intercession for the transgressors ( which we all are ). Please read your New Testament and consider the claims and the teachings and the life of Gods only begotten Son. ” He ( Jesus ) who knew no sin became sin for us so that we might become the righteousness of God in him ” 2 Corinthians 5:21… God does love you and I will pray for you all.

    • Kathy Smith

      I wake up everday being thankful that MY GOD IS IN CONTROL. Facing all of this without Him is impossible for me to comprehend. Thank as always r. for your wonderful comments.

      • Tim

        Yes. God’s people have nothing to fear. He works all things after the counsel of His own will. (Eph. 1:11)

  • http://EconomicCollapse Already Gone

    As i have said before the u.s at one time was considered the no.1 polluter in the world,china has passed this country in that category an I Believe that they really do not care what the united nations thinks And as a country we are paying for it
    quite dearly for it acutally as for jobs are being shipped out of here quite rapidly.As For crashing the world economy to save the environment here we go!This is a well planned,carefully orchestrated,
    paradigm shift to implement there new world order,
    thus there world global economy,and they are well on there way to putting in to action.God help us all.Because if I Interpet this article right it is going to take a reduction in the global population
    and this may have to be done on terms differently than birth control,aids did not work,so I would not be surprised to see many new strains of diseases appear out of thin air with no cure on hand,a easy way to preform mass genocide with no one in particular to point the finger of blame onto. It Would be more humane than Hitler’s way of getting the job done.Worse of all I do not buy this creation of the world seed bank as there excuse to preserve seeds in cause of unforeseen circumstances.
    I truly believe that there is an alterior motive behind the construction of this “doomsday seed vault” and I cannot remember who said, if i am rite
    that no crisis should be wasted,since i have been
    refered to as being “nutty” in regard to one of my comments on
    this blog let me put all the marbles on the table,
    why should the un not use 2012 to there advantage to
    help with there plans? If something beyond man does happen to where there is a potenial worldwide crisis
    the un would probaly step in to impose possible world wide martial law and convince nations and populations that there new world order,one world economy,one world currency is the only way man will survive. One large dictator to control your life,
    what you say,do,how you act. One large worldwide kingdom controlled by people nuttier than me.Science Fiction or Future Reality? You Decide.

  • Cinderella Man

    I tried to leave you the website for Population Connection. org the other day but I guess it didnt go through, Michael. I went to the site there is nowhere to leave a comment so I looked up the phone contact number and pranked called them. I pretended to be a dumb naive global warming extremist who thought that there are too many babies and old people on the earth and if they were a eugenics foundation that encouraged people to commit sucicide. The lady who was on the other end didnt sound very alarmed of concerned that I thought that old people should be put down because they smell weird and wont retire so us youngsters can have their jobs! She just said in a very lame voice “Sir that isnt what our organization does, we just want less births in 3rd world countries.” Amazing! I cant believe she could be so calm as I was spouting off garbage about global warming and euthniasia! Times sure have changed and not for the better!

  • Emily

    Wow, I didn’t known to UN was so smart! All we have to do to save the planet is DIE……whos first?

  • Antonio Gonzalez

    The United Nations work for America, you don’t know that?
    Read and think. Iraq, Afganistan, Lybia, It’s America-ONU
    work, maybe six or seven millions people killed for money.

    • bongstar

      the united states is owned by the Federal Reserve! the united states has been hijaked by the bankers along with all other indusrialized nations. it isnt the US thats controling this. the banksters have manipulated poloticians and there nations for centuries now. our country is a pawn in the grand scheme. If you like to read please read the Creature From Jekel Island by Ed Griffen. it is a very informative book that track the wealth and there wars. it also explains the inner workings of the worlds monetary systems, central banking, the Federal Reserve, There profiting of there intentional booms and busts, and there hand in the new world order. please get this book and read it it is very enlightening and alarming.

      • Malcolm Reynolds

        Take another hit bro and feast your eyes on this one.

        THEIR is like saying them – “Their fault”
        THERE is indicating a place or being – “over there” or “There are”

        So you should have said ” TheIR profiting of theIR intentional booms and busts” Actually, every one of your theres should be replaced by ‘their’.

        Does anyone else find that a little annoyiing?

        • bongstar

          sorry if i dont take grammar seriously! it dosent mean a thing to me i am very well read and very infromed i just belive it isnt that important though i know it bothers some. my apologies. my grammar may be wrong but what i have to say couldnt be farther from the truth.

        • Lennie Pike

          We all know what he meant – the only thing that matters.

          Be perfect with spelling and grammar from now on (hard to do) – you will be corrected.

          The – is incorrect – got a problem with that?

          We’re mostly all friends here,

          they guy you called a dummy.

  • Joshua

    I have very little problem with building a sustainable future, and I think anyone to believes that our standard of living is sustainable, is ignorant of the subject, or perhaps in on some new piece of technology I’m not aware of.

    I also believe that the U.N. is right that there’s little doubt we need to rethink our economics system. I believe we’ve plateaued.

    • DownWithLibs

      What ever you say, my blue-helmeted friend!

  • BenjiK

    “The threats and consequences they insist are so dire, that there is no time to debate, no time to look for alternatives…”

    Kind of reminds me of “We have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it….”

    • BenjiK

      Sorry, this was a response to knightowl77.

    • knightowl77

      Abso friggen lutely

  • newton

    This subject is alot like abortion; it is amazingly complex and complicated and the more you learn of it, the more you start to realize that there are no easy answers.

    Yes; the end game is power and money – but we the People HAVE had ample time to make our voices heard about 250 MPG cars ( yes, they do exist ) Natural Gas vehicles ( which burn so clean, you only have to change oil every 20 thousand miles ) and solar battery technology

    Buy all we the people want to do is watch dancing with the stars while Hugo Cavez and
    Ahmadenejad rape us wildly while we’re drooling over the thought of a new Niaan leaf electric car ( like Duh – the electricity comes from where ? )

    The gap between the haves and the have nots is widening allright

    But it has nothing to do with Money.

    99% of the people living in this country are dumber than a damn fencepost

    That’s the sorry damn truth about the whole
    shebang.

    These politicans, elitests and banksters; they know this ! Hell; it’s like shooting ducks in a fenced in pond for these people – meanwhile; the dumd assed fat idiots we all call neighbors – are wondering how to sign up for tha HD TV for only 79.99 a month

    • TX4Life

      “99% of the people living in this country are dumber than a damn fencepost”

      You are correct and your post reminds me of the movie “Idiocracy” which every person under the age of 30 should be required to watch. Every time it’s on the Comedy Channel, I watch it again and am sadly reminded how much intelligence is being lost with each generation.

      • http://Spinsiderecords.com Edouble

        I love that movie. Sadly most of the people commenting here seem like they were cast as extras for the flick but didn’t make the cut! The concepts outlined by The UN for sustainable growth are becoming an impending necessity for the survival of our so beautiful, *********-up, Imperfect, miraculous, species. We need to control populations using comprehensive family planning (especially in developing countries) as well as mange our planet, OUR HOME… OUR MOTHER! The Earth’s, remaining resources wisely so that we do not perish, drowning in our own unnecessary filth and waste. You crazy, Neo-Con, fear eaters, and global banking conspiracy theorists, You blamers. Finger pointing, God- quoting, wanna be outdoorsmen. Driving your big, pointless, red *************** pick-up, to go shoot animals, LIKE THE WOLVES, who are finally getting a chance to re-populate before practically becoming extinct in the name of ‘progress’… God damn! Yeah, I said it…. and YOU! YOUUU who bastardize the concept of a higher power BY ACTUALLY BELIEVING that all of this disgusting pollution, irreversible contamination, environmental degradation, and straight up human destruction of this amazing world is part of God’s
        (Jesus only) plan for the world… That “after the last tree is felled, the savior will appear.” That the more we destroy the natural world – our actual physical reality, the closer we will be to “The Rapture” and therefore closer to an “eternal existence in Heaven with God” for those, and only those, who renounce all other forms of spiritual faith and except Jesus Christ (who was a rebel and as anti-disestablishment as you be, until his subsequent execution by who? Oh, the authorities of the age) Then the powers that were, became the powers that be; when they added the word ‘Holy’ to the title of Holy Roman Emperor. Stop hating and fearing. Start loving. It starts with you loving you. When you can love your enemies, then love your brother… and that cutie down the block.

        Spread love is the Brooklyn way.
        -Biggie

        • Lennie Pike

          If the population of the World were 100 billion, there could easily be enough for you, and for you, and for him, and for me……….. but due to scum that want to “take up the whole scene baby” for themselves like the the bankster and fascist corporatists that run the world and the u.n. – there are shortages, suffering, and starvation.

          These “people” are not Free Market Capitalists – they are Fascists watching out only for themselves. They are a very small percentage of the World’s population, and these pricks never have enough, they always need more – guess why.

          They keep failing businesses in business because they write or re-write laws as needed, print money and give it to themselves, and bailout themselves and their friends, so that the money stays in their pockets and not the pockets of the competition.

          This activity destroys economies and people’s lives – everyone’s life eventually. Free market capitalism creates prosperity – we don’t have that – everything is fixed and corrupted.

          Money can not be fiat – when it is we get what we have every time.

          The World is now being run like Haiti.

          • Lennie Pike

            The World needs to be run like Hong Kong used to be.

          • bongstar

            Thanks for having my back. and agin lennie you are correct about our system not being free market capitalism, it only runs under that guise. Then these fascists that have rigged it to fail turn around and blame capitalism and free market though they both dont exist. Its amazing that Kensian economics, wich was founded by jhon maynerd keyens one of the founders of the Fabian socialists, is one of the two types of economics to in our indocrinating universites. The other, supply side still dictates that govornment intevention in the free market is necicary to the vitality of the markets.

    • Syrin

      99% of the country enters the liberal indoctrination centers we call public schooling, and they pump out the class envious greedy gary’s of the world.

    • http://www.opednews.com/LuisMagno Luis Magno

      “99% of the people living in this country are dumber than a damn fencepost”

      That’s 99% of ethnoracially dumbed-down “whites” and “non-whites” or “coloreds”. However, people that identify ethnoracially are few and as a first approximation 99% will do.

  • http://www.YouTube.com/thepreparedpastor Prepared Pastor

    Aim for the blue helmet.

  • Gary2

    Michael-I think you have a type-o You must mean “conservative republicans want to crash the economy in order to win the election”

    actually they have been single mindley trying to make Obama fail since day one. Bitch Mconnel repube in the senate said as much!

    • bongstar

      Gary if like to read please read the Creature From Jekel Island by Ed Griffen. it is a very informative book that tracks the wealth and there wars. it also explains the inner workings of the worlds monetary systems, central banking, the Federal Reserve, There profiting of there intentional booms and busts, and there hand in the new world order. please get this book and read it it is very enlightening and alarming.

      • bongstar

        Michale!!!!!!!! please answere me. Have you read the Creature From Jekel Island?

        • Michael

          I am very familiar with the work of G Edward Griffin.

          Perhaps I should do another article about the Federal Reserve soon. :)

          Michael

          • bongstar

            well im glad you have the work. your articles are very informative, and people on here definatly respect your articles and opinions. i just personaly belive they lack a certian amount of cohesion amongst eachother. I truly belive that the people need a better understanding of our debt based monitary system, so the can understand that if our debt was paid off that the feds dollars would be worthless. I fell that maybe you should write another srticle on the Fed and its conections to the IMF and ECB and there complete swollowing of our congress and entire political system. The people need to understand that they have done nothing but rob us and other nations of there wealth with there fiat money and bail outs at the cost of the american tax payers. the people cant aford not to know any longer. please Michael write a fully comprehens article on these subjects. The people need to know.

      • Gary2

        I have read this already!

        • bongstar

          ohh have you? then can you explain banking reserve requierment ratios,fiat currencys, mortgage backed securitys. monitary easing, quantitive easing, bond yeilds and their rising corralitivly with quantitive easing, debt backed assets, bi metal monitary backing, continual debt plays, the monitary control act of 1980, the national pay structure break down of the IMF, and countless other things that are explained in this book that you seem to be completly oblivious of.
          Go ahead and google them all since this uncited unreliable free fourm information tool seems to be your only knowledge source, then respond and act like you have a clue.

    • tak

      gary can you please stop,, has ubamma done anything wrong he has almost doubled the debt, how is that the repbs fault, dems are just so stupid it makes me sick

    • davidmpark

      Are you getting paid by some org or collective to post here? Like some appointed SS officer to keep tabs on this website outside your group’s influence and post the usual stuff? Just asking; I’m not with anyone here politically. It’s just I need to know.

      • Gary2

        I am doing my best to provide balance to Micheal’s extreme right wing bias.

        I am also trying to educate about the evils of conservatism.

        If I did not provide sanity on Michaels blogs most of the posters would quote bible verses to each other and hope the end of the world comes.

        Sorry to bring reality to the conservative love fest this site usually is.

        Michael should pay me to wade through all the conservative misinformation on this site and inject this thing called facts.

        Be careful-the antichrist is a conservative. I am saving you all from the beast who prowls the earth seeking who he may devour! 666 is a evil number. if you utter it you will descend into the lake of fire.

        That last paragraph is what would mostly be on this site w/o me!

        • Xander cross

          I agree with you gary.

    • McKinley Morganfield

      Your problem is that you are an ignorant running dog lackey of the wealthy leftist ruling class. You see one side of the coin but pretend the the other side does not exist. You are one of the emotive, mindless mob that stones all who disagree with your ideology despite the fact that you long ago cast the first sin and have no understanding of the historical facts that condemn your ideology.

      You foment hatred and violence thorough your ignorance of how things work in the real world as you demonize those who make things work in the real world. Going back many moons ago….

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBZ8ulc5NTg

    • Syrin

      EVERY single economic parameter has gotten worse under the America hating Marxist. He had an all democratic COngress for 2 years, and STILL never passed a SINGLE budget since he took office. Nazi Pelosi gave him everything he wanted, and you blame the GOP. You regressives are incapable of leading, logical thinking or objective analysis. Cause and effect mean nothing to you. Not to worry, they do to the rest of the country.

      Stubborn things those facts, eh GARY?

      Keep posting. I’m going to show EVERYOBNE here what a regressive versus an informed conservative looks like. People are noticing. Go cut and paste some more falsehoods from HuffMattersKos.com. I’m ready.

    • knightowl77

      We absolutely want George Soros’s puppet to fail….he agrees with the UN on the global warming hoax….So yes, Barry must fail

      • xander cross

        So who would replace him? Ron Paul? Mitt Romney?Santorum? Gingrich? oh, Rosanee Barr is running for president now? If Paul somehow wins, states rights will change overnight and not for the better. I am still trying to figure out how so many of you are against big FEDERAL government, but support big STATE and LOCAL governmnets that created things like SUNDOWN TOWNS where blacks could not be in towns at sundown or face lynching by whites? Believe me, many so called “constitutionalist” would love to bring that back. So be careful what you ask for, you might get it.

        • Gary2

          the right is upset as they have nothing but buffoons running in 2012 and will loose big.

          You conservatives know I am right on this one.

        • http://www.opednews.com/LuisMagno Luis Magno

          Human descriptors like “black” and “white” are Anglo-Saxon elite psy-op terms intended to induce binary, dumbed-down thinking. It’s an old oligarchical divide-and conquer trick. There are dozens of ethnoraces and sub-ethnoraces, like Anglo-Saxon American, European American, Spanish American, Native American, etc. Those are appropriate human descriptors.

        • Paul

          It doesn’t matter who runs for President, as Presidents don’t run the country.

          You should ditch your millionaire senators first and replace them with homeless people.
          This has many benefits:
          – You get those homeless off the streets.
          – Those at the top know what’s it like at the bottom.
          – Those at the top know how to survive on nothing and where money is needed first.

          The now unemployed senators are rich enough not going to starve within the next 500 years.

    • Granite Prepper

      Blind as always. you and the progressives will be happy in your fascist/marxist utopia….that is until there are no more rich to persecute. Then what?? People like you, with little knowledge and even less means will be taxed until you feel like you’re in a vice……welcome to the New World Order you so vehemently want!!

  • http://sgtreport Dick Fitzwell

    I’ve read about and looked into this and it is a real agenda,Agenda 21.Check out some of the youtube videos about this and you’ll be very very surprised to learn the truth.There is a book Agenda 21 , written by Mikhail Gorbachev.Is that name familiar??It outlines this article to a Tee.This is what the UN and the Clintons and the Bush (NWO)family have been pushing for years.These ideas(Agenda21) are some of the kookiest I’ve EVER heard/read.It is a mix of the movie 1984 , Soylent Green,and Communism all rolled into one.These people are VERY sick in their heads IMO.

    • Paul

      Try some books from Marx and Engels.

      Did you know that they said that Capitalism is necessary to reach Communism?
      That Communism comes after Capitalism reached its peak worldwide?

      Quite interesting.

      Did you know that there are no taxes in “their” communism, because people will ditch all states and are mature enough to manage themselves?

      Sort of like “open source” – everyone gives according to his abilities and everyone will get according to his needs.

      And the best is, the harder we work in making Capitalism work, the sooner we get to Communism. :-)

      Because when I work hard, I don’t want some dumbass shareholder or dumbass politician benefit by not doing anything. When I work hard, I want to decide who gets the rewards. What you do with your earnings is your problem.

      “Alle Räder stehen still, wenn Dein starker Arm es will.”

  • Jaz

    The biggest issue we face on this planet is the explosion of the worlds populations. Western countries own populations may indeed be flatlining but at the same time there is a tidal wave of legal and illegal immigration to these western countries from poorer , less developed nations. The poorer nations that dont have birth control implemented or are living under religious beliefs that outlaw birth control , their populations are exploding and as they realize there is little to no opportunity for work or some kind of life without povery , they are pooring into western countries looking for a better life.
    The worlds governments have to address this problem ! and now. All efforts to reduce our consumption of energy and the use of our finite recources are completely useless if something isnt done. The worlds economies cannot keep growing and expanding to accomodate and create opportunity for all these people its just impossible. So world leaders need to grow some balls and start making some tough decisions.

    • http://www.opednews.com/LuisMagno Luis Magno

      6000 suppressed zero-point energy-device patents will be released triggering the physical manifestation of a paradise on earth as it is in the higher realms of earth consciousness.

      This year is the year of mass planetary human ascension leading to December 21, 2012 and the official beginning of a new societal order. Every man, woman and child shall proudly identify ethnoracially and discard the offensive use of skin color descriptors as terms of human identification.

  • kwark

    Oooh, the big bad bogie man the United Nations. The impotent United Nations, oh, I’m so scared. Yeah, the the unvarnished truth is a bitch isn’t it? Americans are spoiled, ignorant and impervious to the obvious truth that there ain’t no way we can continue to live our lifestyle. You don’t like “sustainable” try the consequences. Oh but you won’t have to, leave it to your grandchildren. Coward.

  • Colin

    We’re so self-important. So arrogant. Everybody’s going to save something now. Save the trees, save the bees, save the whales, save the snails. And the supreme arrogance? Save the planet! Are these people kidding? Save the planet? We don’t even know how to take care of ourselves; we haven’t learned how to care for one another. We’re gonna save the f-n’ planet? . . . And, by the way, there’s nothing wrong with the planet in the first place. The planet is fine. The people are f-d! Compared with the people, the planet is doin’ great. It’s been here over four billion years . . . The planet isn’t goin’ anywhere, folks. We are! We’re goin’ away. Pack your s-t, we’re goin’ away. And we won’t leave much of a trace. Thank God for that. Nothing left. Maybe a little Styrofoam. The planet will be here, and we’ll be gone. Another failed mutation; another closed-end biological mistake.”
    ― George Carlin

    • xander cross

      I miss George Carlin. I saw his last stand up a while back. Told the truth.

  • http://worldendsat5newsat11.blogspot.com Tony Lamb

    Michael do you ever get persecuted for your web site and your beliefs?
    I have people who ridicule me terribly, for only trying to open their eyes.
    My own Son will not talk to me about preping, I can’t even get him or his wife to buy a bag of beans or rice. But I know when SHTF they will be at my door with their 4 kids cause they know I have food and water. But then it will be to late for them to prep.
    I could see hating me or you IF we were trying to change some ones politics, religion etc. BUT to get someone to buy a couple bags of beans, rice, some water and some candles you would think we were trying to take peoples babies from their Mothers arms???
    Wake UP AMERICA Before It’s to LATE
    http://surviving12-21-2012.blogspot.com
    Thank You for your work
    Tony & Bobbie Lamb

    • Michael

      Yes, there are always people out there who hate those that tell the truth.

      It will get a lot worse in the years ahead.

      Michael

      • Rodster

        Micheal you made the big time today. Rush Limbaugh was quoting from one of your economic pieces. “If the economy is so good…then why”.

        P.S. Can I trade avatars with Gary2? I’m usually happy and he seems to be a sourpuss. :)

        • Michael

          Rodster:

          Thanks for letting me know about that. The site had a significant spike in traffic today and I couldn’t figure out why.

          Michael

      • http://worldendsat5newsat11.blogspot.com Tony Lamb

        Personally I don’t think we have years, I think we have months, maybe at best.
        I know you think it will be a slow drawn out process but I think it will hit like a ton of bricks. One day Walmart will charge $5 for a loaf of bread and two days later it will be $25 and a couple days after that it will be $150 and then Walmart will close because no one can afford what is being asked for a loaf of bread and other staples. Then nothing will open cause our dollars will be worthless. Then we will have no power, no gas, no food NOTHING.
        I think our government will issue new money but no one will have any confidence in it and it will fall almost as fast as the greenback.
        And I think this is when we will be hit with the Amero as a means to save something of our economy. This to will eventually fail and then we will be hit with a one world currency as a last ditch effort to save the world from the economic abyss.
        And this is the start of our One World Government, as an emergency means to save the worlds economy.

  • TheGuru

    As a fiscal conservative, I love abortion. Generally, liberal moochers will abort at a high much higher rate than conservatives. If the liberals want to thin their own herd, more power to them! I do not care about my neighbor’s salvation or damnation.

  • davidmpark

    Ahhh… knew we’d get to the old population control answer sooner or later. It’s the French Revolution, the Georgia Guide-stones, Soviet Eugenics, Nazi eugenics, and Progressive Eugenics ideology all over again. Same stupidity – new conglomerate of wannabe gods.

  • Georgiaboy61

    The United Nations has been co-opted by our enemies, and long-ago quit working toward ends a majority of Americans support. Today, Obama and his people are seeking to use the U.N. as a means of slipping gun control into America in defiance of the constitution and the second amendment, and other similar global governance measures that bypass our sovereignity as a nation. It is long-past time that we withdraw from the U.N. and throw them out of the USA.

  • tappedops

    Nice one Mr. M… i was hoping the GWH art would spark something… now your For-Sure on the no-fly-buy list and the UN has already listed you as… well… nuts…

  • Tapper P.

    I love the comments under Evelyn’s YouTube vid. All true. Our owners should stay 100% hidden, but I guess this jerk’s ego won’t allow that.

  • JustanOguy

    Stop paying Federal Income Taxes… problem solved.

  • Paul

    I don’t believe the UN wants to “crash” the economies. Just the opposite.

    Current economic policies led to the current economic crash.

    With a sustainable development, there will be less crashing, since potential crashes will be discovered in advance by people who do proper risk management.

    Just imagine following headline:
    “Developers of seatbelts and airbags promote car crashes”

    Sort of like “Condoms promote teenage sex and teenage pregnancy”

    Putting a steering wheel into a car not only prevents crashes but gives you more opportunities to reach more destinations.

    • bongstar

      Paul, do you read? if so please read the Creature From Jekel Island by G Ed Griffen.

      • Paul

        Maybe when I have time. Currently I need to finish my cchicken coop when I have some time at hand.

  • Harry Houdini

    After reading the article, and after reading all the comments of you people, I would just like to ask a simple question… WHAT IS YOUR ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION? Continue burning gasoline at the rate you are burning them today? Continue enriching the first world nations at the expense of third world nations? Continue with your unsustainable lifestyle, the hell with the consequences? Continue bearing children despite the fact that we have multiplied from 1 billion to 7 billion in just a few centuries? I hate governments as much as any one of you, but there’s a real problem facing the planet and future generations. If bill Gates is trying to find a way to advance birth control, he’s trying to do something good. If you guys can’t help, then stay out of the way. The first world is just too selfish to understand what the rest of the world is going through. Don’t worry, it won’t be long now, all your economies will crash, China will rise, and we would finally have some equality here on earth.

    • bongstar

      harry do you like to read?

  • Martin

    UN understands that existing system will crash regardless due to resource depletion so they are trying to bring an illusion that crash is *by design* even if in reality pending crash is *by default*.

  • chiller

    There goes those retarded socialists again. They’re precious EEEeuuuwww is falling apart so they want others who are not falling apart to save their failed asses. “If you make terrible decisions about how to run your countries, then you LIVE with those terrible decisions and don’t try to suck the life out of your successful neighbors under the guise of “stability” while pointing a finger saying “YOU did this successfulness to US so YOU should pay US! Clever way to attempt to pay for your failings by making us pay for our success. YOU are the unstable ones, YOU are the failures, YOU need to get your own act together before having the unmitigated gall to throw US into the same pitiful basket as your failed selves! We should just nuke the living hell out of you bastards and get it over with.

  • ajc

    Debt is a construct of law, one that can collapse and society will recover in time. Climate is physical and inescapable and on a geological timeframe. Your artical is based on a flawed understanding of climate science. Do not let this distract you from your work of drawing attention to the inequalities of our economic system.

  • JA

    I’m a truther; I’m a birther; and I’m a firster; I have more cleavage than Pam Anderson- who am I? Jerome Corsi! The New World Orgy, and the FEMA CRAMPS are coming to a town near you. See Y’all in HADES. **************

  • Peter M Allison

    We are living in a world on the verge of economic collapse.
    I could not think of a better way to counter global warming, wildlife extinction, soil degradation, water scarcity, over-population, traffic grid-lock, toxic waste accumulation, poisoning of our atmosphere, crashing fisheries, destruction of forests, coral reef bleaching, obesity, rampant consumerism, tourism and corporate greed, than to have the basis of western civilization terminated.
    When this ridiculous system collapses, this planet will have some respite and enable the planet to achieve some sort of balance not afforded by the idiocy which now dominates contemporary thought.
    What has western civilization achieved to date? Everything worthwhile is in rapid decline.
    Take out the banker-wankers, the corporate scum, the greedy, the over-fed, the moronic consumers, the pathetic politicians, and you will have a planet worth living on.
    The way it is has no future. Get used to it, or do something different.
    Undermine the dominant paradigm.
    Refuse to accept the lies of the marketeers, the political scumbags, the corporate criminals.

  • paul

    The point is, that the government style in the US and many other countries is unsustainable.

    Michael wrote that often enough here:
    The government is spending more than it takes in.

    How long can you sustain this “life style”?

    And now you say the UN is wrong because of “flawed science” they ask for not spending more than you have?

    This isn’t rocket science. It’s common sense. It’s just that common sense is not that common.

    The earth has a certain amount of coal. When it is burned, it is gone and you can’t get more energy out of that. What will you do then? Will you find an alternative only after you are in deep ******** or maybe already earlier?

    Burn coal and you get heat.

    Burn oil and gas and get heat.

    Explode gunpowder and get heat.

    Use nuclear energy and get heat.

    And now this “flawed science” tells us that human activity generates heat. Or not?

    Innovation always generates business. So we shall embrace innovation. Innovation to do more with less is deeply ingrained in capitalism.
    Using less resources (reduced costs) to get more results out of it (better health, better life, feed more people, etc) is nothing totally new.

    The difference is just that “better health” and “longer life” can be regarded just as valid a reward of economic activity as “more money in the mattress and more gold in the vitrine”.

    The early bird catches the worm. If you use less energy now you pay less now and in future.

  • paul

    “That means that you and I would start paying a lot more for the basic things that we need every day – food, gasoline, etc.”

    No, actually you can end up paying less.

    There is a tax on fuel and energy use in Germany for ages now. The result: German cars get you 60 miles per gallon, saving you a lot of money.

    Even if fuel prices rise and you get more local food because it needs less transport, less money will leave the country, more money will stay in and more jobs are created.

    More jobs means less welfare to be paid by the state.
    Your money doesn’t go into the pockets of some oil sheikh, but into the pockets of former unemployed Americans.
    People work more, get tired, and less idle. Which will result in lower crime rates.

    The USA has the highest prison population of the world. And you all pay for it with your taxes.
    Well, not, if you are rich enough to avoid taxes.

  • paul

    “If you do not want to end up living in a “Planned-opolis” where virtually everything you do is watched, tracked and controlled by bureaucratic control freaks, then you better say something now.”

    Well, you could get rid of the Department for Home Security for a start.

    Did you know that drones just got approved to control American citizens in America 24/7?

    http://rt.com/usa/news/us-drones-border-patrol-489/

  • Winston Hackett

    The comfortable, affluent lifestyles of those of us in developed countries is going to disappear soon because of dwindling resources. That’s going to happen no matter who is in the White House, no matter what any world organization says or does.

    Get ready to live in a much less comfortable world. Better to learn how to do with less voluntarily before it is forced upon us. A short fall is always less painful than a long one.

    • Lennie Pike

      There are no dwindling resources – only increasing technology and increasing inequitable distribution of the existing resources due to a rigged game made possible by fiat money.

  • paul

    “This is something that we have seen Barack Obama try to do, but obviously he has not had much success at it.”

    Maybe he isn’t a dictator who can tell everyone else what to do?

    If there are not many jobs in the USA, it may also be that Bush didn’t pay too much attention to Americans getting an education and jobs? Maybe Bush paid more attention to his cronies profiteering from selling bombs and airplanes to the US government?

  • Bone Idle

    Too Late. This is already policy. U.N. Agenda 21.

    You have been asleep at the wheel. This agenda has been live since the nineties.
    The U.S. has already signed up to it – as well as many western countries.
    Local councils and small governments are already implementing parts of Agenda 21 by stealth.

    An insidious program foisted on the world by unelected zealots.

    The U.N. must be defunded.

    At the least, Tin pot and extremist countries should not have the same say and voting rights as larger economically important ones.

    Human rights commissions, The IPCC and many other U.N. departments should be stripped of power immediately.

  • jox

    I am firmly for the ‘sustainable development’ policies and the complete change of our current economic system.

    I’d like to discuss every policy on the list one by one, but I’m sad to see that most of you prefer simply to ridicule the whole subject and the people that believe in this change for the better: control freaks, idiots, etc etc.

    One reflexion: When the current crisis ends, how do you think the world will look like? Exactly the same as in 2007? The wild and unsustainable economic and population grow will return? All I see here is critics, but not ideas about how to exit this mess and what model of economy and society do we want to achieve.

    I prefer a thousand times the concept of globalized and regulated sustainable grow, with its defects, than the mentality of far west, every man for himself, unregulated ‘do whatever you like as long you don’t enter my lawn’ that seems to prevail among American people.

  • Michael

    Great article, Michael

    First of all, material resources on Earth are LIMITED, it’s a fact !!!!

    For the last 100 years, western countries did a very bad job with Worldwide resources. Developed countries do the same now with a major impact because a huge population (India + China = 1/3 of the mankind).

    We need a worldwide management of the material resources. 1 billion people don’t have clean water and enough food, it’s INSANE !!!!
    Western countries can easily make effort JUST to avoid WASTE…. In FRance, 80% of the electric power is from nuclear plant !!!! Avoiding waste and you cancel at least 5 nuclear plants.
    Developed countries can’t copy our past model because it’s bad !!! They must invent a new economic model, more sustainable.

    With a pretty good management of the resources worldwide, there is enough opportunities on Earth to feed 10 billions people.

  • Bobnoxy

    Wow, what a troupe of clueless morons in here! NOT saving the environment will cost more than fixing it! THIS is why I fear for this country. It’s dominated by idiots! Good grief!

  • rancher

    Living clean is correct. Paying for others to do it is wrong.

    Now let us see an article or two about Israel attacking Iran and the effect home here. I do not much care for the effects over there anymore than they care about us here.

  • karen

    It’s amazing how they throw it back at the people like it is all are fault, it’s everyones fault. First the UN,NATO,CDC, and every organization you can thing of even network for children are all part of the elite, they all play a roll in brainwashing you. and I can say they have done good job at this. The media is by far the leading one, along with sports all to take your mind off of what is really going on. The ones that blame us are the ones spraying chemtrails, that cause massive acid rain and chemicals that cause mutatated animal life you can look that up chemtrails. Aids was done by them, monkeys don’t carry aids, we need to get real here, what a joke blame it all on the animal, so is H1N1 and anything related to that is manmade Henery Kissenger is the elites CEO and he and them call us useless eaters.

  • Jeff

    “So those that believe in sustainable development love to promote things that will reduce the human population of the earth”

    I could not agree more.

    Why the hell does the world need thousands of new babies every day who are born into extreme, grinding poverty? What is the benefit of another baby to sub-Saharan Africa?

    Why are conservatives so intent on protecting the “sanctity of life” through birth, then turning their backs and watching millions of people starve to death in a resource depleted world?

    There are TOO MANY unwanted children being born daily. Birth control and sensible family planning are the best options to save the planet.

    CHINA has the right idea: One Child Per Family as government policy.

    • Lennie Pike

      If it wasn’t Sub-Saharan Africa, where were you born? Is the population of your state larger than that of Haiti?

      Overpopulation does not cause poverty or a depletion of natural or renewable resources.

  • Winston Smith

    “sustainable development” is not automatically synanamous with “control grid”.
    A distributist economy is sustainable, decentralized and hence, less likely to be controlled by Big Govt and/or Big Buiz (Hudge and Gudge Chesterton would call it). It is Christ centered and allows for the family/person to grow and do what they want to do….successful in Mondragon area of Spain and various other ventures……Please note “sustainable growth” is not an automatic = to communism…..but the UN of course, does not want decentralized, community/family based solutions…more of the same centralization toward the AntiChrist system

    • Lennie Pike

      Exactly

  • Syrin

    Soros and Obamugabe have set their sights square on the US. Don’t trust me, look up Soros’ own words. Soros, the funder of the Nazicrat party, the destroyer of no less than FIVE European economies. Yes, they WANT the collapse of the US so they can found their new world order, and establish a new international currency which would greatly enrich Soros. This isn’t my speculation, again, all things he has SAID and even put into books.

    Prepare accordingly. The Gary’s of the world are aiding the decimation and are mindless drones who have little more than hate, classs envy, greed and pre-programmed talking points that are patently false. In other words, what Lenin and Stalin called, “useful idiots”.

  • Barn Cat

    The goal for the world population is 500 million. One way or another they’re counting on billions of deaths. Causing a complete economic collapse with no electricity or public water for at least one year is the way to achieve this. We’re about to see it happen. The mainstream media is doing nothing to warn people about it.

  • TucsonKK

    Climate change is real and yes the US can lead by example and shame other countries into action.
    Polpulation is a BIG problem. Ask yourself Why should an poor,uneducated woman be allowed to have 3 or 4 children that she can’t support? Pass out the FREE birth control pills.
    Yes the Conservative Republicans want to crash the economy and care not about poor people, just destroy and they will control Washington, but how sad that people are smarter than that and now see through the Master Plan.
    Republicans want the all the babies to be born as they are trying to control birth control pills ( REPUBLICANS are THE WOMAN’S POLICE)
    Yes too many people will destroy the world and there will not be enough food to feed the exploding needs

    Overpopluation + Climate Change + Ignorance=
    20 years from now “A Brave NEW WORLD”

    Think now,educate,and save the Planet

  • Rocky

    This is exactly what G. Edward Griffith told us would happen in The Creature from Jekyll Island.

  • cleo

    It’s all part of the new global religion…secular fundamentalism.

  • N. Daniels

    Can’t get over the never ending comments about the repubs did this and the dems did this and all the political mumbo jumbo. Both parties are responsible for the state of the country and I believe them to be two hands controlled by the same head. Regardless of what you believe, the truth is that every last bit of this is only a distraction by our enemy (Satan) with the purpose of destroying as many souls as he can before the Lord returns. Politics, global warming, euthenasia, population control, all would have some merit or reason for concern if this planet was going to last forever. However it is not going to last, it is going to be destroyed by the same God who created it. Only through Jesus Christ can one escape the coming destruction and receive eternal life. Turn off your TVs, forget about your bank accounts and your politics. The people around you need Jesus, that is the only solution to the problems we face. One person at a time, one soul at a time is the only way our community, state, nation, planet will be changed. I am Praying for all who pass this way, that you might find true life.

  • randy

    “Most goods and services sold today fail to bear the full environmental and social cost of production and consumption. Based on the science, we need to reach consensus, over time, on methodologies to price them properly. Costing environmental externalities could open new opportunities for green growth and green jobs

    That means that you and I would start paying a lot more for the basic things that we need every day – food, gasoline, etc.”

    While I agree, somewhat, with the above conclusion, I do so only in the sense that the oil needed to supply our every day needs – food and gasoline – is not priced at a rate that recaptures or reflects the costs associated with its developement and use.

    Polution of the environment from the development and use of oil should require a premium or tax to pay compensation to those that are adversely affected by said polution as well as money will be needed for cleaning up and preventing further degredation of the environment.

    A less talked about premium in oil use and developement is the military cost of protecting access to oil regions. From the deaths and dismemberments of human beings to the destruction of nation state infrastructure to the support of tyranical dictatorships of oil states, the un-paid-for military aspect of oil use and developement is a cost that I have not seen calculated and publisized.

    No. What I believe the goods and services that are unsustainable and fail to bear the full environmental and social costs are the value added goods that we purchase everyday…

    Walmart, dollar store, Target, all of the goods from these stores, and others, are produced unsustainably, much like the debt acquired to purchase these goods.

    I could go on, but the wife just got up and I gotta go pay the bills…

    peace…

  • DownWithLibs

    I see satans blue-helmeted helpers at at it again! Jokes on them…this country doesn’t have any money.

  • OH NO

    SOYLENT GREEN this movie could be reality one day.

  • REED RICHARDS

    Michael,

    For this article to be even remotely true, that would mean that the Asylum States of Amerika is essentially an occupied military province and nothing more………….

  • sharonsj

    I assume the U.N. is just making suggestions, since none of this can be implemented without agreement among the member nations.

    In any case, for the global warming deniers (and you nutty conservatives know who you are), I suggest you read the Pentagon report on climate change, which came out while Bush was prez. (You didn’t hear much about it for obvious reasons.)

    The Pentagon stated that climate change is a greater threat to mankind than terrorism! One of the major problems, aside from natural disasters that cost billions, is that huge swathes of land will no longer be able to sustain the inhabitants, and you will see large migrations of people in search of food, water, and shelter–borders be damned.

    In my state of Pennsylvania, we had a 50-yr flood, a 100-yr flood and a 500-yr flood all at the same time. A huge number of business never recovered, and I have friends with nothing but the shell of a house…no appliances, no furnace, no hot water, and no interior walls and floors. All non-mountain roads were closed and the water was so high it washed over the river bridges. Houses by the river, which were built on 15′ stilts, had water in the first floor.

    Now I can hear folks saying that the planet can’t be warming because Europe is having a cold snap that just killed over 80 people. That only means you don’t understand why it’s getting colder there. The melting ice cap is cooling the North Atlantic current that warms up England and Europe. If it gets warm enough, they could end up with a mini ice age. But don’t expect Fox News or Rush to explain it to you.

  • http://economiccollapse jackier

    Sustainable development is such a broad term that it could be interpreted in any way possible.
    Like the war on poverty or the war on drugs. We know how that worked out. Any thing goes.
    The words ‘Homeland security’, encompasses so many restrictions and more are being created every day.
    With the above, they will make the adjustments as they go along. Oppression here we come.

  • Bob

    It could be interesting to put a “LIKE” button on each posting to see see how popular they are.

    • http://n/a jgouig

      Yes; he seems like a crackpot in this article.

  • Kris

    Sorry, but we ARE the problem. Especially in America!

    We have become a gluttonous, lazy people, who are only motivated by money or convenience.

  • AJ

    This has to be the first HOPEFUL thing I’ve read here. Good! I’d rather live in a country in shambles than on a wasteland of a planet. Ideally, there’d be a better way to achieve that, but that would require a mass effort from EVERYONE and not all people are willing to try so it’s practically impossible, but I’m all for a sustainable society–no matter what the costs. If a few million have to die, so be it. Diseases and predators exist for a reason. Humans have circumvented nature’s laws and it’s high time we set it straight!

    • Ben Dover

      Thanks for volunteering.

    • Jim

      The ironical thing is, AJ, that if you actually MEAN what you’re saying, then you’ll have to be one of the people making a big sacrifice of your lifestyle. And then there will be one less person who agrees with the U.N.

      AND everybody who feels the same as you about this topic will have to make the sacrifice, too. And then the really cool part is that after all of the people who hate humanity have removed themselves, then the only ones left will be the ones who want to pursue happiness.

      Go for it, AJ. You first.

      • John A. Gundersen

        You hit the nail perfectly, Jim!

      • Jeremy

        Try thinking about your children and your children’s children. When food is so scares that we are eating nothing but genetically engineered and cloned food. When the poverty levels are so high and education is a commodity only the rich get. We need to take it upon ourselves to control the rise of the population, like only having one child. Before our government forces it upon us, either by law or by other way more sinister means.

    • Jim

      Why is there a statement above the dateline on my above comment that reads, “Your comment is awaiting moderation ?”

  • Paddy

    Bad economic collapse blog article.

    Completely ignored the point of the UN Report. That exponential growth cannot continue forever.

    As it said, food production would have to rise by 40% to meet the population demand in 2040. That isnt some bullshit about climate change that is Simply the economics of a rise in population.

    The world is hitting a barrier for exponential growth, whether you ‘believe’ it or not.

    You blindly ignored the points that article was making

    • Shelby Bouchard

      I agree with Paddy, very poor article.

      You seem to base a lot of your points on the assumption that this paradigm can continue, when it can’t. Infinite growth cannot be sustained when our engine is inherently finite and actually in decline. Population growth is synonymous with oil use, the graphs are actually quite startling.

      You should keep to writing finance articles, as your knowledge base from that seems to not correlate well logic of other subjects. Many of your points ended in with comments of “oh well we’re too broke”. Yeah we are, but how can you expect to do ANYTHING if we’re broke? You keep me informed about economic collapse but seem to completely lack the social comprehension that is necessary to understanding some very important reasons as to WHY the economy is collapsing. Oil will not last forever, thus the age of cheap energy can not lost forever, thus the population cannot grow forever; that is, if we expect to escape extinction or severe resource shortages for massive amounts of the population…

      I hope your future articles are better thought out, as this one has serious flaws. Your first video is but a biased form of support, it is not environmental gospel. The junk science can come from both sides, Mr. Snyder. Don’t blur the lines between conspiracy theory and conspiracy fact, it is in this realm that your apparent boredom might bite you in the ass again…

      Look forward to some of your BETTER works. Much love and respect.

    • Bluestocking

      Exactly, Paddy. Whether we like it or not, the fact remains that infinite growth on a planet of finite resources is not only not sustainable — it is quite simply not physically possible. In fact, given the lengths to which the human race (and America specifically) is already going in the pursuit of energy to fuel the processes that supply us with the necessities of life as well as our creature comforts, significant changes will probably need to be made both with regard to how we feed ourselves and how we power our technology if we want to have any hope of surviving the 21st Century. (Then again, it occurs to me from time to time that perhaps the planet would be better off in the long run if we didn’t survive so that a more intelligent and more enlightened species has an opportunity to develop.)

  • snow

    We should take the power away from them by going ahead and doing everything we know to do to save the planet without being forced to do it. Most of those actions would also help our pocketbooks as well.

  • Prepping for the Future

    Thank you Michael weather it’s the fake endangered spotted owl to close down logging or the delta smelt a minnow to shut off water or the wolves forcing ranchers out of business, it come down to control freaks that want to force Americans into the cities. If you donate to any of the enemies you are part of the problem. That would be Greenpeace, Sierra Club, Defenders fo Wildlife, PETA or any other of that type of group you are helping them steal America one fake endangered species at a time.

    • http://Spinsiderecords.com Edouble

      What is wrong with you? What future, exactly, are you prepping FOR? One where there’s no actual wild-life, just some animals in cages, cloned, force-fed antibiotics and steroids to combat the constant infections from being jam packed in factory farms and treated like just a commodity and not given the respect one of God’s creatures as an actual, living being? Not to say that I don’t eat meat or haven’t killed any animals; I love meat. I eat all of it. Pork, whatever. and when it comes down to it, I can and have looked that animal in the eyes and respectfully taken it’s life. For food. In the wilderness. We can only hope to get closer to that unspoken rhythm of the seasons… the vast freedom of the seas, the shelter of the skies and all of God’s children, ALL LIVING THINGS, that dwell underneath them. The thing that we call NATURE is actually a living entity that exists on a much larger scale than our silly human quarrels; Our precariously petty differences and beliefs that could at any time result in the absolute destruction of all we know? All that ever will be known?…of Art, Poetry, Love, Pain, all that it is to be human. Get your priorities straight, man. I’m sure you’re an great guy to grab a beer with. Probably do your best to take care of you and yours But guess what? WE ARE ALL in this together. Me, You, the mountains, the animals, THE EARTH WE LIVE ON, the very AIR WE BREATH at every moment of every day, IS CONNECTED in a infinite dance of life, death, birth and re-birth. Revel in your time! God is love

      • DamnTheWarGods

        The key question to ask in this whole thing is WHO is destroying nature? Including wildlife.
        Who are the worst culprits?
        The answer is the self declared Elite! They will not sacrifice…Al Gore is a prime example of that with his jetting all over the place to line his pockets with the Agenda!
        It is not the middle class that has a high carbon footprint, they are just the ones who will be required to sacrifice and pay for it.

        You mentioned it in your comment….Factory Farms. Which are the most inhumane in their treatment of animals. Local farms are being legislated out of existence while Factory farms which are the biggest breeders of tainted food products along with their inhumane treatment of animals. Who is making this happen….our politicians.
        Why is clear cutting (another way wildlife is going by the wayside) still going on while industrial hemp would solve not only building materials issues but also energy issues. It could also reduce use or need for oil.
        If you are not familiar with the way that alternative fuel sources have been squelched than please do some research. There was a guy who had a car that ran on water. He is now dead. That is only one scenario of many.

        It is also very evident that anything that will cut into the Powers that Be’s profit margin will run into resistance.
        For example, There is ample evidence that Cancer is curable, but all that can be used or ok’d are Chemo, Radiation, and surgery. All in effect shorten the life span. Estimated 5yrs. Untreated – up to 12yrs. People typically do not die of Cancer, but of the treatment. The pink Ribbon Campaign is no more than Pink Washing….which finds companies who sell products that have been deemed to be carcinogenic donating small amounts of cash (comparatively)and putting a Ribbon on their advertising (that they support Cancer victims) which gives people the illusion that their products are safe. They are not. And it’s all government approved.

        Check out the Burszinski Movie which shows how the FDA works at suppressing alternative health initiatives that work.

        The point is…everything that the Powers that Be put out there (media is owned) sounds real benevolent, but it isn’t. My advise is to question everything and follow the money. these MF’s do NOT care about anyone.
        I’d also question the notion that by 2040 there will be 9billion people in the world. The rise to where we are came mostly from the industrial age and Baby Boomers. People are opting more to have less children, not more and population is now in a decline. Do the research and resist the temptation to just take government’s word for it. They lie about everything.
        Case in point; Department of Energy was created 35 years ago to decrease our dependency on foreign oil. At it’s inception we depended on 25% foreign oil – it is now 75%. So those who trust that Government is going to solve the problem had better wake up quick. They are just making sure they have power and wealth on the backs of good caring people. They prey on your good will, and guilt everyone.

    • White Indian

      Endangered species aren’t faked. Fact is, we’re in a human-induced Sixth Great Extinction.

      • Lennie Pike

        If it were not for species becoming extinct, you would have nowhere to place your foot for your next step.

        Imagine having to fight off a Teranasaurus Rex as you try to get inside your car to get to work.

        Extinction is all part of the plan.

        Humans are not animals – we will never become extinct.

        How come all you commentators that have comments that are opposed to Christian beliefs (Truth), only post comments on two week old articles on the second page?

        Try winning a debate on day one. Or do you know you will lose the debate and it is safer for you here where not many visit. Is this your only opportunity to convince at least some people of the untruths you are forced to resort to?

        • SJH

          Your are so ignorant its a joke – Lennie.
          Humans ARE animals you dolt and there are a million ways we can become extinct.
          What the hell is wrong with your brain.
          You cannot honestly believe such nonsense
          Ohhh, i see a dumb arse christian!!
          You believe in magical people living in whales and carrying animals in arks, santa clause, the tooth fairy, virgins giving birth and stoning adulteress. You are so blind and beyond hope, go ahead live in a dreamworld nothing can help you.

    • Ben Dover

      Don’t they consider polar bears “threatened” even though their numbers have been increasing?

      Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US. I like how they blame the developed world for everything and ignore things like unfettered pollution in China (which IS a developed nation) and the fact that third worlders (Africa in particular) breed like rabbits.

      • http://www.quantumhistory.com simulosophistorian

        That would be an argument for a stronger UN, where they would have more say in, say, what China does. You switch your tune again: the author of this article specifically rallies against access to reproductive planning, calling it “population control.” However, this article propones that we all need to advance, and work togethner. I think there are more excesses in the first world, and soon Africa will be a continent of young republics, remember, and you’re argument will be another relic of the past, as the paradigm shift sweeps right over you. That is what the UN is about, and why you miss it’s point. It’s about being equal as states, not with one more powerful than another, so we can work together as a world to solve Hobbes’ energy crisis, the way he foresaw, with the Leviathan. I wish people who didn’t study history or philosophy would just keep out of commenting on the present. You get one fact and then go haywire, and can’t tell what’s going on. It’s kind of cute. Have a cookie.

    • mondobeyondo

      We are all potentially endangered species.

      Yes. Even cockroaches.

    • http://www.quantumhistory.com simulosophistorian

      Unfortunately, it is the desire to prevent another incident like after the spotted owl, where it’s habitat was closed to logging for decades, that caused the park’s policy not to report sasquatch sightings. Believe it or not, among archaeologists and biologists, they have evidence of decedents of the gigantificus, large monkeys that walk upright, living in the same region, and right now they only have their scent of smell to protect them, and the fact that people believe they’re mythical. They might be extinct at this point. So I would argue that for the sake of “fake” endangered species, well we’re doing very little to protect them, and in fact the system seems to be on your side, and is all for logging, and destroying the planet, rather than exploring and preserving it. People like you are a part of the old paradigm, and the more you (and this author) try to preserve it, the more you are but bringers of doom. You are not intentionally evil perhaps, but effectively so, because you are a part of the paradigm seeking to destroy the planet, and go with the unsustainable practices we as a species would like to leave in the past. You are a relic of the past. A dinosaur. We will continue to ignore you as we build a new future.

      • Lennie Pike

        The planet will not be destroyed. The only way it could possibly be destroyed is by nuclear holocaust and that is not going to happen.

        The problem is that people look for substitutes to love instead of loving people. Many things are substituted including the planet and animals. It can progress into worship (idol worship) and become a religion to some people.

        I think it’s been the fastest growing religion in the U.S. for many years because it is taught in the public schools along with a lot of other anti-Christ teaching.

        I sure would like for someone to point out to me how and where the planet is being destroyed because it is not.

        Most resources are renewable or recyclable and there is a big enough supply of the few other resources to last for centuries regardless of the lies told by those that are against God. And don’t forget about undiscovered technologies that will make any depletion of any existing resource if it happens by some fat chance – a moot point.

        Please – someone name one resource or substance of any kind that once existed but no longer exists and animals do not count since they are supposed to and need to go extinct. Dodo Bird oil won’t cut it – there are substitutes now, and we now have beef – we don’t need to hunt dinosaurs with spears – although I would like to try it.

        I do know though that the Godless totalitarians who will take control of the World here pretty soon, will use this lie that the planet is being destroyed as one of their methods to scare people into allowing them to take control.

        The necessary killing billions of people who object to them taking control won’t bother them in the least – they have no love for people – the ones they don’t kill will learn that soon thereafter.

        The love of God and forgiveness is needed to truly love another human Being.

        • http://www.quantumhistory.com simulosophistorian

          I’ve often thought it very strange that Christians are not environmentalists. Please keep your apocalypse to yourself.

  • Scarlet

    In alot of ways I too agree with this article.. Something needs to be done.I know many people dont agree with abortion but we have that right and should. I would rather a woman abort than have the baby and leave it for dead,kill,abandon,or abuse… The child is better off. I think they should put a limit on how many kids people can have.. people having more than 2-3 should be sterilized. Fast food should be done away with. If something isnt done we will kill ourselves anyway. More power to them.

  • Agrina

    Incredibly bad article and even worse conclusions.

    You built up quite a series of straw-men and then predictably tore into them. All the while ignoring the point of the article. No doubt it is one of those typical knee-jerk responses by those who espouse purely individualistic ideologies.

    Like it or not, all of us have merely one planet in which to live. Further, the degradation of the very environmental life-support system that sustains us all is a massive issue.

    The planet has a definite carrying capacity and that number has been wildly inflated via the use of fossil fuels. Despite higher prices than ever, the level of oil production has not increased over the last half-decade. Corporations are not searching for oil in increasingly remote places (deep sea drilling), in questionable sources (shale), and via dubious methods (fracking)….because there is some abundance of the stuff.

    What will happen with our current worldwide food system that is almost entirely dependent on fossil fuels as the latter becomes both more expensive and scarce? Already billions live in abject poverty, subject to starvation, famine, and malnutrition. Yet you somehow imagine another 1-2 billion people can be added to the population?

    The world cannot drill its way out of the problem. Nor can it ignore the environmental effects of such rampant fossil fuel use.

    What do you think will happen as sea levels continue to rise? As levels of carbon dioxide continue to surpass those of the Pliocene, when sea levels were over 10 feet higher than present.

    There is a happy medium between individual and social concerns. Individual needs are primal and necessary to have a fulfilling life.

    Population is the 800 pound gorilla in all of these discussions. The idea of state control or influence over reproduction is dystopic and prompts visions of tyrannical governments, rightly so. However there has to be frank and honest discussion on the subject. It can no longer be merely swept under the rug. The consequences affect all of us, no matter what our views may be on the matter.

    However, without a concern for greater social good, the human species would never have gotten here in the first place. If that broad concern for our species fails to persevere during these and future times, then the viability of society is doubtful.

    Thinking that token acts of environmental protection will suffice is as naive as it is wrong-headed.

    • Lennie Pike

      In which university did you learn this or teach it? Which ever one it is, thinking and common sense are nonexistent there just as in 99% of Academia.

      See the response above I made to your fellow professor sumulosophistorian.

      All of you learn a bunch of nonsense in universities taught by someone that has gone through the same indoctrination as yourselves, that has nothing to do with reality, then you remain in Academia to teach it to the next who lacks the work ethic to think for himself (or actually work), or the courage to face reality.

      Half of America knows this is true – you have a bad reputation and a track record of being incorrect. This is why you do not have the courage to debate on the first page of this blog – you’re just lagging behind here on old articles fishing for a few unsuspecting stragglers – the same strategy you use with young people who have not yet developed the ability of discernment using individual thinking and common sense (which always produces the same results) – you have no other strategy that can work because it is ALL lies based on how you would like the world to be and not the way which it actually is and the way that God created it – which gets to the crux of the matter – pride.

      You have no reason to be proud of anything – nothing you do ever works out or functions – have you noticed that yet?

      • Bmac

        Attack the argument, not the voice behind it!

        God gives makes us an Eden, yet you fools in your infinte hubris seek to control and dominate it. Instead of trying to understand and preserve it, you seek to rape and loot the earth of all of it’s resources. Like animals. You believe that humans are more than animals? Then take a step back and use your god-given reason to determine how best to secure our planets future.

        Sure I will admit I don’t like the idea of abortion, but to discourage contraceptives in the face of our growing population, is a sin that we don’t even have a word for in the English language.

        Stealing your children’s future. Stop hiding willful ignorance behind the veneer of faith and ask: What would Jesus truely want?

        • Lennie Pike

          No one is raping and looting the Earth of it’s natural resources. The amount of resources being consumed is almost identical to the amount of resources being extracted.

          Using the words raping and looting makes it sound like huge stockpiles of resources are being stockpiled unnecessarily, or being extracted and then destroyed without using them.

          Resources were created for Human consumption, so it should be very simple to understand – there is nothing harmful with the current level of consumption of resources.

          Again I ask – someone please show me one resource that has ever been depleted in the history of the world other than animal – of which there are not very many. Many animal species have become extinct (thank God), but not many animal resources that Humans consume have been depleted. Also, Humans have caused some animal resources to come very close to extinction, and then brought them back to greater numbers than before the first one was killed for Human consumption – the reason the tasty ones exist. Even if a few animal species that are resources that Humans consume have been depleted (I can’t think of any) it would be no big deal – many Humans were fed, many Humans earned a living depleting them, and there was a substitution to turn to afterward and deplete also if necessary.

          There are always substitutes available if any resource happens to become depleted. Just one example – Natural Gas could take the place of petroleum very quickly. Also, technology always moves forward and new technologies will be discovered that will eliminate the need for many resources.

          Many technologies have already been discovered to eliminate the need for many resources but have been suppressed for the financial benefit of the controllers of established technologies – but it wouldn’t matter in the least if they had never been discovered – my point is that there is never reason to worry.

          The following is my favorite argument to use against environmentalism (a false religion): Why does it matter to you if resources are depleted if you are against using them? Does it make you feel better knowing that all of the natural gas used for heating homes is still in the ground?

          If your response is that you are not against using them, it’s just that you are against the high level and speed that they are being used because that will cause depletion, then that argument does not make any sense – it will take just a little more time for them to be depleted, and don’t forget – I still need someone to show me one that has been depleted. Any prediction of depletion based on current level of consumption will be incorrect because that would require knowing the existing amount of resources and no one has that knowledge.

          If your problem is with pollution – pollution has nothing to do with the use of natural resources, but has mostly to do with the incorrect use of them, and the planet is a lot more resilient and resistant to pollution than environmentalists believe. Many warnings of environmental destruction have proven to be hysterical and based on emotion and not fact. Other than nuclear radiation, pollution has not been the serious problem it has been made out to be.

          There is no reason that the Human population of the world needs to decrease – there could be enough resources for everyone. Environmentalists are just one of the groups who prevent the World’s population from having the resources they require to keep on increasing in number – like they should.

      • http://www.quantumhistory.com simulosophistorian

        Ha, you didn’t respond to anything. You think academics is the problem here? Ignorance is a sin. You wrote this RIGHT AFTER someone posting about the fact that carbon dioxide levels are already higher than during the Pliocene. Do you know what the Pliocene is? It’s the last time the polar ice caps melted. This person was telling you that climate change could submerge the world in your lifetime, and you insult OUR intellect?

  • http://TheEconomicCollapse Dave of OK

    Whether we like it our not a sustainable world economy is the only way the human race will survive. Hopefully it will not have to be so controlled as is presented in planned-opolis and be more rural. But it will have to be a voluntary sacrifice of our present high carbon expectations.
    What they do not bring out in the propaganda is that in order to have such a sustainable world our population will have to diminish by about 5 billion people. Which means a controlled die-off. Who wants to voluntary first?

  • Peter M Allison

    We are living in a world on the verge of economic collapse.
    I could not think of a better way to counter global warming, wildlife extinction, soil degradation, water scarcity, over-population, traffic grid-lock, toxic waste accumulation, poisoning of our atmosphere, crashing fisheries, destruction of forests, coral reef bleaching, obesity, rampant consumerism, tourism and corporate greed, than to have the basis of western civilization terminated.
    When this ridiculous system collapses, this planet will have some respite and enable the planet to achieve some sort of balance not afforded by the idiocy which now dominates contemporary thought.
    What has western civilization achieved to date? Everything worthwhile is in rapid decline.
    Take out the banker-wankers, the corporate scum, the greedy, the over-fed, the moronic consumers, the pathetic politicians, and you will have a planet worth living on.
    The way it is has no future. Get used to it, or do something different.
    Undermine the dominant paradigm.
    Refuse to accept the lies of the marketeers, the political scumbags, the corporate criminals.

    • DamnTheWarGods

      It is engineered to be that way….by those that are offering the solution. Ever hear of the Hegelian Dialect? Problem, Reaction, Solution.

      They engineer a problem, people clamor for action from the leaders to “Save us”, and they offer the solution. Usually at a great expense.

    • Lennie Pike

      Nice job confusing and muddling the issues.

      Consumerism is not the problem, the world is not being destroyed. The other half of your argument is the problem – politics – the Fascism of the Elite and their control of fiat currencies.

      Nice try though – including some truths in the mixture in the attempt to make the untruths believable – a tactic that is difficult for a lot of honest people to recognize.

      Your false claims one by one:

      Global warming: If it exists at all it is being intentionally created by the ones with your philosophy (so you think) through the spraying of Chemtrails.

      Soil degradation: Farming and erosion cause it – Western farming techniques and solutions to prevent erosion are extremely more advanced than previous ones.

      Water scarcity: Caused mainly by pollution and a problem which is easily solved with enforced regulation – the lack of which is the ACTUAL problem – water does not leave the planet and all all water that has already been polluted can be made pure again through the process of distillation, and anyone on and individual basis can easily distill all of the water they require at no expense. Then there is the huge reserve of water available by desalinization of sea water. It is not necessary to destroy the “Western System” to eliminate water pollution.

      Overpopulation: Just state some evidence that overpopulation is a problem – it is not a problem. Factors other than overpopulation cause people to go hungry and without the other necessities of life – those factors are usually political. Famines due to droughts which have always occurred global warming or not, can not be blamed on the Western System.

      Traffic gridlock: Who cares? Move! Drive a motorcycle right through the middle of the two gridlocked lanes. Not a problem.

      Toxic waste accumulation: Why is that a problem? Who is being harmed? O.K., there probably are a very few contaminated areas somewhere. Many have been cleaned up – you used to be able to set some river in Manhattan on fire – LET’S CLEAN THEM UP! Do you have a lead acid battery in your car? When you have to replace it, don’t eat the old one!

      Poisoning of our atmosphere: Not happening other than chemtrails.

      Crashing fisheries. TRUE!!! congratulations a true one. Let’s keep enforcing regulation which gets better every year. The Western System can still exist with regulated fisheries. The amount of fish consumed has recently skyrocketed due to fish farming, and that since fish are coming from farms and are less expensive – less fish from the ocean are being consumed. The number of commerical fishermen is declining! Their expenses are far greater than the expense of fish farming. Because of this FACT only – ocean fisheries will recover. If every fish in the sea were to die, humans would still have all of the inexpensive fish they can consume – and the needs of Humans is what is important – not the needs of the Snail Darter or what ever fish it was that lived in the main irrigation canal that fed California’s farm land that was saved at the expense of the food supply of millions of HUMAN BEINGS!!!!

      Destruction of forests: This is getting old, I don’t know how many more I can handle. Trees grow!!! Plant one!!! or two!!!!

      Obesity? Tourism? Coral reef bleaching? Didn’t you forget to include cat juggling?

      Sorry but these “problems” have become ridiculous and I just can’t go on any further.

      Go take another class at your university, and make sure you repeat everything you “learn” so that you can be accepted by your group so to not feel alone but part of something “powerful”.

      I was sure you would use the word “paradigm” – it makes the user sound so intelligent so it must mean they are correct. News flash for ya – actual intelligent people (those with common sense) don’t use that word because they know that other people with common sense can see right through the reason it is being used.

      What is a paradigm anyway – who cares?

      • Peter M Allison

        Lenny, you obviously have no real idea about the world around you. I do not have a university education, but I am a highly skilled practical engineer who has designed and built many unconventional solutions to counter the excesses of western technology.
        I have seen and experienced the consequences of climate change in my own backyard, the die-off of wildlife, sea-level rise, I am very aware of the decline of soil fertility due to chemical mismanagement and have developed means to rebuild depleted soils as well as systems to recondition water.
        I have built several distillation plants and I can assure you distilling anything is not without cost. I produce ethanol which will not generate a hang-over after drinking to excess. Makes you wonder what goes into legal liquor. Get real, or get out of town.
        Where does the food supply for farmed fish come from? Wild fish stocks.
        Why are you so chauvinistic towards a system in terminal decline due to stupidity and wanton greed. Now is the time to undermine a corrupt system and destroy its basis.
        Athens is burning, next will be Madrid, Rome then London and New York.
        People are angry. The wealthy scum of the earth have caused the GFC and the poor, unemployed, under-employed and pensioners are expected to shoulder the costs for reform of the decrepit economy.
        Let the cities burn.
        By the way, a paradigm is a set of precepts, concepts, ideas, whatever.

        • Lennie Pike

          Where you go off track is who you blame for Athens burning.

          The anger of the Greeks is being directed at the actions of the criminal banking cabal which is totally unrelated to the reasons (true or untrue) that you gave for the system being in decline.

          Alright – I will admit I was wrong about the distillation of water being cost free – the building of a solar water distiller requires spending about ten dollars – but once it’s built, there is no more cost.

          Fish don’t require only fish as food – read the ingredient label on a can of fish food for aquarium fish – but it’s obvious to me that the same system that exists in the wild can be mimicked to create a system that would suffice – if it hasn’t been already.

          • Lennie Pike

            And I have lived in the Low Country of coastal South Carolina and Georgia for most of my life (I’m 54)where all of the land is about 2 feet above sea level. I have made my living from the sea for many of those years and am in my boat every chance I get.

            I do not lie or make any statements unless I am 100% sure they are true. Here’s the truth for you – there is no rise in sea level – it is another NWO lie.

  • Graham

    I note from various comments that several are very tuned into two of the following subjects. Others may want to research the following. I understand the UN was part of the NWO plan in order to unite everybody and was initially funded by the Rockefeller Foundation, who in turn were funded by the Rothschild’s.

    Global Warming (Nonsense):-
    http://iceagenow.info

    The Federal Reserve (Main File Library):-
    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_fed.htm

    Rockefeller Internationalism (Main File Library) :-
    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_rockefeller.htm

    The Rothschilds (Main File Library):-
    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_rothschild.htm#Additional_Information

  • Gregory

    Warning Water colored painting from May 11, 1999
    with explanation
    http://old.911digitalarchive.org/images/details/3103

  • Gregory

    http://bigthink.com/ideas/21303
    251 – Pot Kettle Black: Yugoslav Map of the Near-Collapsing US

  • soros

    Most people have been lobotomized by the “free press” aka “propaganda central” which is but televised sensationalism. Most love quilt. It is a tradition handed down generation upon generation. Institutionalized religion and governments use it to control the masses. This is understandable to most because its been that way for many generations of mankind. It is therefore easy for corporate types who have been raping the planet for a buck, to see how the gullible masses can easily be fooled into accepting the blame for there disregard for our Earth upon themselves. Think about it for a moment, do you really believe its in your best interest to move all the “jobs” to China? Can one correctly phantom all the fuel and packaging for instance it takes to bring all this “stuff” to the US and the stress it puts on the environment? Does the common American realize any gain from this? No, it only serves the interests of the corporations. It is them who solely profit. They profit the second time if they can persuade you to bear their guilt for them. If these corporations had any concern for whats good for the Earth we would not be in such a mess. No, they are not to be trusted. The war for profit boys are your enemy

  • Michael Lindsay

    Interesting article that highlighted serious matters for both sides. It did not offer a solution. So here is one to consider.
    The center for all is based on resource utilization and interaction of entities. Reform the medium utilized for the interaction by first; removing the creation of interest debt on a 1 to 1 basis; 2, install a method of 3 to 1 which funds equal distribution of resources evenly and halts the population growth. This solution solves the problem along with giving both sides what they desire.

  • lilwing

    Paddy you are right because this blog article ignored the point of the UN report. Moreover the planet is warming and not just through a natural cyclical event, but through human activity. Ice caps don’t disapear in years but through centuries if this is the natural course. Ice core samples don’t lie and show the masssive spike in CO2 starting with the Idustrial Revolution. Soon the permafrost in Serbia will release massive amounts of Methane Gas through warming Earth temps. With the continued warming of planet the oceans will fail as we are seeing already. Once crops start to fail it will get real ugly. It won’t pretty and I’m afraid a lot worse than an economic collapse. The UN should recommend living like the Amish, but with far fewer offspring and religious freedom. This is the only answer.

  • Me

    Greenwashing BS.

    “Sustainable”? Like what? Electric cars? Make me laugh some more.

    If there really is a problem it will be solved a-la Easter Island (read up on it). All the government regulation in the world can’t kill off more people than all of World War 2 PER DAY for the next 20-30 years, which is what you’re really talking about here.

  • Agenda 21 is real

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46262438/ns/us_news-the_new_york_times/t/tea-party-linked-activists-sense-un-plot-attempts-make-us-go-green/
    I know people that work for the UN, and Michaels blog is real info,
    The powers to be influence by scientists worldwide have convinced enough powerful rich people to push agenda 21, and Americans will suffer the most, if you want to stop this horric plan to control the world then write your tea party activists and join the resistance movement

  • Me

    “Family planning” = anyone’s family but the elites.

    It was originally conceived of as a means of eugenics against black people. No ************. Look it up.

  • Me

    For God’s sake people… Conservative, Liberal, it doesn’t matter. You’re parroting talking points of a bunch of puppets on both sides that are owned by someone else.

    That someone else wants you enslaved.

  • bonehead101

    over population is so very nearly here. if i was a planet god i would not wait till 50 years and hope everybody will stack up 8 deep and be the good global citizen. i would trump up a war taking out the breeding population the old will die off soon enough and the very young can be trained between now and then when they are grown and working. so that war would need to be now and in 13 or so years after the dust settles and the babyboomers have all died and lost there wealth ,things can get going again so huge war ,bad times, 13 years later start of good times again

  • BillybonesIII

    The ‘powers that be’ will answer to the “Power That Is”
    Hopefully people will wake up to Who’s really in charge – so let them (the banksters and gazillionaires) play their games while they can.

  • http://www,Back2theLand.com Old Timer

    Solutions come with change. The paradime we have now will have to change to make life sustainable. Historicly when people started to form cities in the 1300’s, sanitation became worse and disease was rampant – droping people like flies. I have no doubts as the infrastructure crumbles and sanitation decreases the cities will collapse further and back to the fly problem. The reason for the worlds population growth is elimination of common infectious disease and chemical fertilizers/insecticides.

    The thrust of Michaels article does point out the manipulation of statistics with emphsis in an election year wherein we would expect lies and deceit. People will continue in their beleif systems which are not based upon fact/science to their ultimate peril.

    Change will come, but it may not be pleasant. In the mean time enjoy the rare opportunity of a conscious life, work within the existing systems and become content. You are not going to chamnge anything in the big picture.

    Old Timer

  • Simon War

    Agenda21 – wakey wakey people!
    Sustainable Development! Codex Alimentarius! GMO’s! Vaccinations for the epidemics that weren’t! False Flag Events! 911! Perpetual War! War on Terror! Global Warming! Synthetic Economic Meltdown! Peak Oil Fraud! the list goes on.
    Its plain that some commenter’s here know the score! – unfortunately some don’t!

    • Lennie Pike

      Most of those that seem like they don’t know the score – actually do know it – they’re liars who hate humanity.

  • http://www.starbelt.com Clinton Waller

    it’s obvious that humanity’s present consumption patterns are destroying earth’s biosphere.. if we don’t stop shitting where we eat then we will be history like it or not.

    here’s something you can do right now, to help yourself, the planet, and all of your human family:

    stop buying crap you don’t really need and live simply

    • Peter M Allison

      Excellent response and superbly simple solution, Clinton.
      That is all it takes; stop buying the crap the advertisers push.
      Grow your own food.
      Compost your wastes.
      Reduce consumption.
      Undermine the dominant paradigm.
      Ignore the obvious lies.
      Burn the corporate scum.

      • DamnTheWarGods

        Beautifully Put.

    • Lennie Pike

      Where is the destruction?

    • Lennie Pike

      “If people stop buying the crap they don’t really need, and live simply” as you say, wouldn’t the “destruction” of the Earth’s biosphere still occur? – but just take a little longer? Or would all “destruction” cease?

      THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINK!!!!!!

      You possess a wonderful ability to rationalize – use it!!!

      First learn something about the nature of life on Earth – “the biosphere”. Most of it is ALIVE (bio) – which means it is automatically self-sustainable because life regenerates – life can be harvested and cut back to produce even more the next time. Plants and animals produce seed, the great majority of which never becomes life – but could. It has recently been discovered that some oil wells refill.

      The reason you have these false beliefs is because you are against Humanity, and the reason you are against Humanity is that you have no Love for it – or at least you have the wrong type of love for it – your type. Believe me – your type, my type, and everyone else’s type results in destruction.

      The correct type of Love, the only Love that works and functions to in the end produce Loving results that produce physical well-being, peace of mind, peace of heart, and contentment for all can only come from God by knowing God’s principles, and by trying to obey and apply those principles. The one and only way that can happen is through receiving the Forgiveness of God’s Son Jesus Christ – and that’s the Truth.

      The incredible thing is that we are alive at a point in history when most unbelievers will live long enough to see proof of the Truth before their deaths. Even then, most of those will remain against God.

  • JC3

    I hate to confuse the emotional earth-worshipping debate with objective facts, because the Puppeteers running the world love obfuscation as they enslave us and take our freedoms & money!
    Many math-challenged NIMBY people have stated that the earth is over-populated, but by whose standards?? The fact of “over-crowding” can be demonstrated by placing all 7 billion people of the world into the state of Texas___268,581 square miles divided by 7 billion yields 1,069 square feet per person, or 4,278 sq ft per family of four. Not nearly the “8 deep” stated earlier. Alaska is more than twice (2.18) the size of Texas. The experts say that the continent of Africa is soo rich in resources and climate that it could sustain 10 Billion people living to U.S. standards. There are six more continents besides Africa, but not as blessed in resources…gotta go harvest my garden.

    • DamnTheWarGods

      Nice, and thanks for adding that too the mix. Very true

    • Lennie Pike

      Correct math and true facts.

  • to

    The article should be called: “The United Nations Wants To Crash The World Economy In Order To Keep The Elite On Top.”

    Our planet is not in danger at all. The power of the oligarchy of the richest few hundred men in this world is in danger. It’s all about THEM. The wars, the murders, the lies, the theft of people’s personal sovereignty and their birthrights. It’s all being done, because the satanic elite wants to stay on top and keep living of the fruit of your labour.

    The elite’s vision of order is human farming. They want to farm you like animals and make you believe, THEY know what’s best for you…

    All lies.

    • Lennie Pike

      That’s it!!!

  • PW From Texas

    This is nothing more than the UN’s way of getting us to accept their bigger plan that they have for us. All of the comments in this article are direct quotes out of the UN Playbook that they cleverly entitled “Agenda 21″.

    If you are unfamiliar with this “Agenda 21″ do your self a favor and look it up. There are massive amounts of information and videos on it.

    My suggestion is for the U.S. to get out of the UN and tell them to take their propaganda elsewhere. Like maybe to the moon.

    There is no more truth in this than there is in the biggest hoax that has ever been pulled on humanity as the whole GLOBAL WARMING hoax.

    They have no real scientific evidence to back up their story.

    We must all fight against this Agenda or we will all Parrish. I choose to fight. How about you?

    • Peter M Allison

      I hear Texas generates more energy from wind power than oil.
      You and your ilk have obviously squandered a precious resource to be burned off in gridlock.
      Pull you head in PW. You are making a fool of yourself and all other mindless Texans.

      • Lennie Pike

        Right…….you heard that Texas – that’s TEXAS!!! – produces more energy from wind power than from oil.

        Sure, I can believe you heard it, but I can not believe you believed it to be true – unless lies sound like the truth to you.

        That must be the problem here.

  • Jane B

    To star the obvious…..too much population growth. Where? The third world of course. Obviously America’s fault too.

  • http://commonsenseinaradicalage.blogspot.com Dfallis

    The UN needs to take their Muslim trash and leave the United States. This sounds like something Obama would propose and it’s seriously concerning that there are those who buy this kind of thing. Crash the economy to save the planet.

  • S.Quade

    Kick these megalomaniac vampires out of the US once and for all. Stop funding them and they’ll dry up and blow away.

  • Peter M Allison

    Read Agenda 21.
    It is the most sensible policy developed by any group of bureaucracy.
    Digest it.
    Work out how you can participate in it.
    Embrace it.
    Look forward to a sustainable future, or prepare to live on an uninhabitable planet.

    • Lennie Pike

      No thanks – I will be one of the ones you will have to kill.

      • Peter M Allison

        Don’t worry Lenny, you are quite safe from me. Maybe you Texans have something to fear as your previous history revolves around violence and murder.

        • Lennie Pike

          What does that last sentence even mean?

          Go for it – I’ll let you have the last word.

  • Dr D

    The artical is not talking about killing, only prevention of people to have more kids that they cannot sustain. Look at places like Africa, so birth control there would save millions from starvation. Come on people, the only way man kind will get past these problems is if a moderate commin sense approch is used. Oh wait no one seems to have that who is in control of anything. Guess we a screwed.

  • Brian

    Well, this is just another example of liberals thinking the right things for altogether wrong reasons.

    Climate Change may or may not occur to a degree that changes anything. We simply cannot focus on climate; there isn’t time. Not right now, anyway. The carbon-free energy is not yet in place. It will take time to develop. It’s a shame that it’s not in place yet, but as we have been saying for decades, it’ll have to wait.

    The infrastructure of today’s developed society, around the world, relies 100% upon the production of fossil fuel resources. That is a reality that we are presently bound to.

    The supply is depleting as fast as we can do it. If we could produce more petroleum, we would. It is that simple. The demand is overwhelming the supply to ever greater levels. As more nations develop, the demand follows.

    So the planet is “addicted to oil” and that has no way to change. Bottom line: plastic and Steel. They cannot be produced without fossil fuel consumption. There is no alternate energy that can do what petroleum does. Not even unconventional resources.

    Right now, the world economy needs to crash, just to save the world economy. Debt is not the answer; starting from scratch with commodity-backed currency and fiscal responsibility is. We have to live within our means and loan only what we have to risk. Economic growth must be slow, or it’s artificial.

    But make no mistake; there is no hope. Developed civilization has a short lifespan. The third world will inherit this planet after we starve. The only question is, how violent will civilized man become as we chase after and fight over the scraps when this is all done.

    Sorry, greenies, but all the windmills, solar panels and nuclear power plants in the world cannot produce electric cars. Sustainable life cannot coexist with industrialized life. Enjoy what you have, take what you can, but most of all, DO NOT HAVE KIDS. Only “savages” will survive, living on the land as they have for hundreds of thousands of years.

    • http://www.facebook.com/0gston Matt Ogston

      We need to implement a new kind of system for our economic shortcomings. The current system had been used for far too many years, without a logical update. as strange as it is to say, we need to get rid of countries all together, and we need to thrive as a single community. how
      we need to base our system around scientific development, as well as our teaching schemes. without the use of money, and people working for amenities, there becomes a better work environment. I have more to this plan, but i do not have any idea how to get my words out, to anyone that will take me seriously. this will work.

  • OMG YFI

    Serious. You people are a bunch of idiots.

  • Holden Southward

    Climate change is just a good theory, but the destruction of the earth is certainly due to the global need for consumption in a globalist capitalistic disassociated society to drive growth and tax revenue. Each region In the earth instead must become like a self-reliant connected tribe again. Women should be primarily with the children and aged and the men must be the main providers and protectors.

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