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		<title>By: lela</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/u-s-national-debt-2010#comment-157543</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 17:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you had nothing better to od then write that whole thing ? i smell LOSERRRRR]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you had nothing better to od then write that whole thing ? i smell LOSERRRRR</p>
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		<title>By: lela</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/u-s-national-debt-2010#comment-157542</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 17:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this sucks and obama rules and he did nothing but make this nation better. You all are wrong and are obviously retarded. so go home and eat till you get fat and explode. this country is full of compalining idiots. You rock obama byeeee]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this sucks and obama rules and he did nothing but make this nation better. You all are wrong and are obviously retarded. so go home and eat till you get fat and explode. this country is full of compalining idiots. You rock obama byeeee</p>
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		<title>By: Sorrel</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/u-s-national-debt-2010#comment-11214</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 19:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Myths about the Deficit and Debt

The deficit imposes a net burden on future generations. This was a major theme of Ross Perot when he was running for the Presidency in 1992. There is some truth to this statement, but not much. This statement conjures up an image that the younger generation(s) has this huge tax bill hanging over their heads which must be paid off entirely. But countries never die (or at least they never plan on dying). Therefore, there is no reason why our children and their children&#039;s children cannot keep passing on the debt forever. In fact, so long as the economy continues to grow, future generations can continue to pass on ever-larger debts. Simarlarly, if I lived forever, I would never have to pay off my credit card debt entirely - just service the monthly interest payments. 

Moreover, payers and recipients of the debt are both primarily U.S. citizens, so income is simply redistributed from one group to another. Suppose Ross Perot was elected President and decided to pay off the national debt once and for all over a period of say, 5 years. How would he do it? He would have to raise taxes and cut spending so that we ran significant surpluses (on the order of $1 trillion per year). The government would then take the funds directly from the tax payers and indirectly from the citizens who lose the benefits they used to receive from government services, and pay off the bond holders. Does the money leave the country? No. It is simply transferred from all tax payers to the bond holders. In fact, many bond holders may find that the value of their bonds were offset by the higher taxes and/or lower level of government services. 

There is one case where the net burden argment may hold some weight. Right now, about 15% of US debt is held by foreign investors. To the extent that future generations must pay off this debt, and the income leaves the country, future generations are burdened with the current generation&#039;s run-up in debt. Fortunately for the US, the foreign-owned portion of the debt is still fairly small. 

The national debt will bankrupt the nation. Huge debts have bankrupted some nations, but we are far from that scenario. The main difference is that most of our debt is internally owned. Also, the government never has to pay the entire debt off at one time since the government never &quot;dies.&quot; Furthermore, the government has an enormous power to raise revenue via taxation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Myths about the Deficit and Debt</p>
<p>The deficit imposes a net burden on future generations. This was a major theme of Ross Perot when he was running for the Presidency in 1992. There is some truth to this statement, but not much. This statement conjures up an image that the younger generation(s) has this huge tax bill hanging over their heads which must be paid off entirely. But countries never die (or at least they never plan on dying). Therefore, there is no reason why our children and their children&#8217;s children cannot keep passing on the debt forever. In fact, so long as the economy continues to grow, future generations can continue to pass on ever-larger debts. Simarlarly, if I lived forever, I would never have to pay off my credit card debt entirely &#8211; just service the monthly interest payments. </p>
<p>Moreover, payers and recipients of the debt are both primarily U.S. citizens, so income is simply redistributed from one group to another. Suppose Ross Perot was elected President and decided to pay off the national debt once and for all over a period of say, 5 years. How would he do it? He would have to raise taxes and cut spending so that we ran significant surpluses (on the order of $1 trillion per year). The government would then take the funds directly from the tax payers and indirectly from the citizens who lose the benefits they used to receive from government services, and pay off the bond holders. Does the money leave the country? No. It is simply transferred from all tax payers to the bond holders. In fact, many bond holders may find that the value of their bonds were offset by the higher taxes and/or lower level of government services. </p>
<p>There is one case where the net burden argment may hold some weight. Right now, about 15% of US debt is held by foreign investors. To the extent that future generations must pay off this debt, and the income leaves the country, future generations are burdened with the current generation&#8217;s run-up in debt. Fortunately for the US, the foreign-owned portion of the debt is still fairly small. </p>
<p>The national debt will bankrupt the nation. Huge debts have bankrupted some nations, but we are far from that scenario. The main difference is that most of our debt is internally owned. Also, the government never has to pay the entire debt off at one time since the government never &#8220;dies.&#8221; Furthermore, the government has an enormous power to raise revenue via taxation.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Manley</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/u-s-national-debt-2010#comment-9515</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 02:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[spytheweb and RobertM I am so glad that some of the world is waking up and can see what is really going on.
What we really must do is expose those that are really controlling the whole dam thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>spytheweb and RobertM I am so glad that some of the world is waking up and can see what is really going on.<br />
What we really must do is expose those that are really controlling the whole dam thing.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/u-s-national-debt-2010#comment-6754</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 22:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[actually it&#039;s much bigger than that. if you add up welfare and social security, it adds up to about 60-70 tril or so. its in a documentary but for the life of me can&#039;t remember the name]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually it&#8217;s much bigger than that. if you add up welfare and social security, it adds up to about 60-70 tril or so. its in a documentary but for the life of me can&#8217;t remember the name</p>
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		<title>By: spytheweb</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/u-s-national-debt-2010#comment-5547</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As long as we have the federal reserve banking system we will never be out of debt. Why does the US keep talking about attacking Iran? Because Iran is one of a few countries left that does not have a central banking system. Their country are not slaves to the bankers.

How can other countries compete against a country that does not charge interest to use it&#039;s money? Another country? North Korea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as we have the federal reserve banking system we will never be out of debt. Why does the US keep talking about attacking Iran? Because Iran is one of a few countries left that does not have a central banking system. Their country are not slaves to the bankers.</p>
<p>How can other countries compete against a country that does not charge interest to use it&#8217;s money? Another country? North Korea.</p>
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		<title>By: duggy dugg</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/u-s-national-debt-2010#comment-4835</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[duggy dugg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 02:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[gee ; there is hope ; so many of you get it ! 
BORROWING BY THE GOVERNMENT IS THE GODZILLA IN THE DINING ROOM ! the private central bank feeds godzilla with money made from nothing ! 
the privately owned central bank , the &quot;fed&quot; is the biggest scam in history !!  ! ! 
the problem : 
     the non-federal “fed”
     THE BIGGEST SCAM IN HISTORY
http://www.wtv-zone.com/Mary/BIGGESTSCAMINHISTORY.HTML

a solution:
Banking : 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNumEm2NzQA]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gee ; there is hope ; so many of you get it !<br />
BORROWING BY THE GOVERNMENT IS THE GODZILLA IN THE DINING ROOM ! the private central bank feeds godzilla with money made from nothing !<br />
the privately owned central bank , the &#8220;fed&#8221; is the biggest scam in history !!  ! !<br />
the problem :<br />
     the non-federal “fed”<br />
     THE BIGGEST SCAM IN HISTORY<br />
<a href="http://www.wtv-zone.com/Mary/BIGGESTSCAMINHISTORY.HTML" rel="nofollow">http://www.wtv-zone.com/Mary/BIGGESTSCAMINHISTORY.HTML</a></p>
<p>a solution:<br />
Banking :<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNumEm2NzQA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNumEm2NzQA</a></p>
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		<title>By: Merlin</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/u-s-national-debt-2010#comment-4620</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 18:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First the debt was not a Trillion when Reagan took office, he raised it to a Trillion to update the military that was still using WWII equipment; The Wall Street Journal headline read country bankrupt, can&#039;t possible sustain a Trillion dollar debt.. Second the TOTAL debt of the Federal Government today is just over 61 Trillion, they only admit to and keep the focus on the 13 Trillion of the so called Public debt.
It&#039;s like that line in the movie The International; It&#039;s all about controlling the Debt. Controlling is referring to owning it all and collecting the debt interest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First the debt was not a Trillion when Reagan took office, he raised it to a Trillion to update the military that was still using WWII equipment; The Wall Street Journal headline read country bankrupt, can&#8217;t possible sustain a Trillion dollar debt.. Second the TOTAL debt of the Federal Government today is just over 61 Trillion, they only admit to and keep the focus on the 13 Trillion of the so called Public debt.<br />
It&#8217;s like that line in the movie The International; It&#8217;s all about controlling the Debt. Controlling is referring to owning it all and collecting the debt interest.</p>
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		<title>By: farang</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/u-s-national-debt-2010#comment-4560</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[farang]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Funny how one commenter here remembers that Bush promised &quot;tax cuts&quot; and then so did Gore...but forgets Gore promised a &quot;lock box&quot; on the FICA WE PAY INTO and our employers PAY INTO, and then Bush did too...how did that work out ferya Republicans??

Clowns: S.S. is what we paid in, it is a &quot;Trust Fund&quot; and buddy, keep your ******* hands off my money.

&quot;Debt&quot;, it was you &quot;top 25% income earners&quot; that got 90% of the tax cuts...now you whine after accepting it and putting us in a $12 trillion hole because of it (lost revenue since it was enacted, geniuses.)

Poor widdle reddog....poor widdle puppy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how one commenter here remembers that Bush promised &#8220;tax cuts&#8221; and then so did Gore&#8230;but forgets Gore promised a &#8220;lock box&#8221; on the FICA WE PAY INTO and our employers PAY INTO, and then Bush did too&#8230;how did that work out ferya Republicans??</p>
<p>Clowns: S.S. is what we paid in, it is a &#8220;Trust Fund&#8221; and buddy, keep your ******* hands off my money.</p>
<p>&#8220;Debt&#8221;, it was you &#8220;top 25% income earners&#8221; that got 90% of the tax cuts&#8230;now you whine after accepting it and putting us in a $12 trillion hole because of it (lost revenue since it was enacted, geniuses.)</p>
<p>Poor widdle reddog&#8230;.poor widdle puppy.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/u-s-national-debt-2010#comment-4477</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kenneth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 19:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some people say that US debt is manageable. Well, the problem is that 90% of US GDP is an immense amount of debt! It definitively cannot be compared to UK, Greece or Portugal.

And there´s another problem, quite known in the UK: the quality of the debt. Most of US debt is structural, and therefore cannot be simply eliminated.

The most important factor that holds the US together in economic terms is this: it controls dollar emissions. Since the dollar is globally accepted as an exchangeable currency, it can get heavily indebted, because it can print the money to pay the bills!

Surely the US is heading towards a very rough way, but the rest of the world is not free from some bumps along the path too. Maybe there is some karma in this world after all (as a consequence of leading USSR to bankruptcy...).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people say that US debt is manageable. Well, the problem is that 90% of US GDP is an immense amount of debt! It definitively cannot be compared to UK, Greece or Portugal.</p>
<p>And there´s another problem, quite known in the UK: the quality of the debt. Most of US debt is structural, and therefore cannot be simply eliminated.</p>
<p>The most important factor that holds the US together in economic terms is this: it controls dollar emissions. Since the dollar is globally accepted as an exchangeable currency, it can get heavily indebted, because it can print the money to pay the bills!</p>
<p>Surely the US is heading towards a very rough way, but the rest of the world is not free from some bumps along the path too. Maybe there is some karma in this world after all (as a consequence of leading USSR to bankruptcy&#8230;).</p>
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