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	<title>Comments on: Virginia Hands Out 6996 Traffic Tickets In One Weekend In An Effort To Raise Revenue For The State Government</title>
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		<title>By: lemmings</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/virginia-hands-out-6996-traffic-tickets-in-one-weekend-in-an-effort-to-raise-revenue-for-the-state-government/comment-page-1#comment-11146</link>
		<dc:creator>lemmings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 03:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not that simple.  

Speed limits are set far too low.   Not only are they too low, they were set when vehicles were less safe and lacked the majority of safety devices we take for granted today  (i.e. seat belts, electronic stability control, far better suspension and control, etc).  Here are some statistics for those police that keep calling this a safety concern:

The last time speed limits were raised, &quot;Statewide fatality rates decreased 3-5%&quot; across the country (1).  So there is absolutely NO corresponding logic between minor amounts of speeding and safety.  Do not believe me though, actually look this up yourself (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limit).

While you are at it, look up the federal study which states EXACTLY the same thing, only which goes further to indicate why:
http://www.ibiblio.org/rdu/sl-irrel.html

So officially, for the record, posted speed limits, particularly on our freeways are set far too low.  So low in fact, they just passed a law to raise it in this state:
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/30/3039.asp


What I find interesting in VA is that they are quick to pull over drivers for going 10 miles over the speed limit, but they REFUSE to pull over someone when they arent using their blinker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not that simple.  </p>
<p>Speed limits are set far too low.   Not only are they too low, they were set when vehicles were less safe and lacked the majority of safety devices we take for granted today  (i.e. seat belts, electronic stability control, far better suspension and control, etc).  Here are some statistics for those police that keep calling this a safety concern:</p>
<p>The last time speed limits were raised, &#8220;Statewide fatality rates decreased 3-5%&#8221; across the country (1).  So there is absolutely NO corresponding logic between minor amounts of speeding and safety.  Do not believe me though, actually look this up yourself (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limit" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limit</a>).</p>
<p>While you are at it, look up the federal study which states EXACTLY the same thing, only which goes further to indicate why:<br />
<a href="http://www.ibiblio.org/rdu/sl-irrel.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ibiblio.org/rdu/sl-irrel.html</a></p>
<p>So officially, for the record, posted speed limits, particularly on our freeways are set far too low.  So low in fact, they just passed a law to raise it in this state:<br />
<a href="http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/30/3039.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/30/3039.asp</a></p>
<p>What I find interesting in VA is that they are quick to pull over drivers for going 10 miles over the speed limit, but they REFUSE to pull over someone when they arent using their blinker.</p>
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		<title>By: Used Cars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Used Cars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 06:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it makes sense really. If you don&#039;t speed you don&#039;t get a ticket, but if they are just looking for a way to make money, then that&#039;s a whole different story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it makes sense really. If you don&#8217;t speed you don&#8217;t get a ticket, but if they are just looking for a way to make money, then that&#8217;s a whole different story.</p>
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		<title>By: the man</title>
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		<dc:creator>the man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 13:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My hat comes off to all the va troops. we nc boys are jealous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My hat comes off to all the va troops. we nc boys are jealous.</p>
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		<title>By: the man</title>
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		<dc:creator>the man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 13:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey everyone guess what? if your speedometer matches the number on the speed limit signs you wont get a speeding ticket. hey go figure. what a concept. by the way not even a penny from any ticket i write goes to the department. so you can 86 that one real quick. but hey keep speeding and following too close and talking and eating while driving. keep going &quot;15mph&quot; over the speed limit on a dry sunny day because i know you will do the same in the rain. its all job security to me. the more idiots are on the road the more likley i will stay employed. ignorance of the law is no excuse. good job keep it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey everyone guess what? if your speedometer matches the number on the speed limit signs you wont get a speeding ticket. hey go figure. what a concept. by the way not even a penny from any ticket i write goes to the department. so you can 86 that one real quick. but hey keep speeding and following too close and talking and eating while driving. keep going &#8220;15mph&#8221; over the speed limit on a dry sunny day because i know you will do the same in the rain. its all job security to me. the more idiots are on the road the more likley i will stay employed. ignorance of the law is no excuse. good job keep it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Kraig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kraig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 14:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>War is Coming

http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/cliffkule/2010/0520.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>War is Coming</p>
<p><a href="http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/cliffkule/2010/0520.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/cliffkule/2010/0520.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fight Traffic Tickets</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fight Traffic Tickets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s absolutley terrible. With 6996 tickets it&#039;s pretty obvious that it&#039;s a cash grab. I strongly agree with the post that someone made earlier - everyone should contest it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s absolutley terrible. With 6996 tickets it&#8217;s pretty obvious that it&#8217;s a cash grab. I strongly agree with the post that someone made earlier &#8211; everyone should contest it.</p>
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		<title>By: tracy davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>tracy davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE POLICE SHOULD BE CATCHIN BAD GUYS, NOT TAX PAYIN LAW ABIDERS,   &quot; LESS LAW , MORE ORDER&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE POLICE SHOULD BE CATCHIN BAD GUYS, NOT TAX PAYIN LAW ABIDERS,   &#8221; LESS LAW , MORE ORDER&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Steamed in VA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steamed in VA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I just found this article. On March 6th I was part of this scam. I got pulled over on I95 just north of Richmond (cop passed me, cut in front of me, attempted to pull over car in front of me and put his lights on. They started to decelerate and I was just about to pass them when he turned around and motioned for me to pull over!). I sat on the side of a very busy highway for 20 minutes waiting for him to come back and take care of me. He put a measuring device on my drivers side window and informed me that it measured 35 and the law says minimum of 50 light transmittal!! I bought the car new the Infiniti dealer in Richmond 6 years prior. (as it turns out that dealer got it from a FLA dealer).  I am now trying to decide what to do. The fine is $30 + $64 processing fee). The statuate reads&quot; Any person or firm who applies sun-shading or tinting films that reduce light transmittance to levels less than allowed...shall be guilty of a Class 3 misdeamonor&quot;  My point is that I did not apply anything, I merely bought the car and proceeded to drive it for 6 years! Do I have a case. Advise. I am outraged at this use of public funds to enforce such a law when I see 30% of the cars speeding and driving recklessly on I95. HELP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I just found this article. On March 6th I was part of this scam. I got pulled over on I95 just north of Richmond (cop passed me, cut in front of me, attempted to pull over car in front of me and put his lights on. They started to decelerate and I was just about to pass them when he turned around and motioned for me to pull over!). I sat on the side of a very busy highway for 20 minutes waiting for him to come back and take care of me. He put a measuring device on my drivers side window and informed me that it measured 35 and the law says minimum of 50 light transmittal!! I bought the car new the Infiniti dealer in Richmond 6 years prior. (as it turns out that dealer got it from a FLA dealer).  I am now trying to decide what to do. The fine is $30 + $64 processing fee). The statuate reads&#8221; Any person or firm who applies sun-shading or tinting films that reduce light transmittance to levels less than allowed&#8230;shall be guilty of a Class 3 misdeamonor&#8221;  My point is that I did not apply anything, I merely bought the car and proceeded to drive it for 6 years! Do I have a case. Advise. I am outraged at this use of public funds to enforce such a law when I see 30% of the cars speeding and driving recklessly on I95. HELP</p>
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		<title>By: Ex Truckdriver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ex Truckdriver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I drove an 18 wheeler for 5 years back in the late 9o&#039;s. I can tell you, every trucker I know hates driving through Virginia. You WILL get a ticket for something almost everytime you travel through that state. DOT cops suck.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I drove an 18 wheeler for 5 years back in the late 9o&#8217;s. I can tell you, every trucker I know hates driving through Virginia. You WILL get a ticket for something almost everytime you travel through that state. DOT cops suck&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: kenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to the new world order.......somebodys gonna snap under the pressure from those we thought were elected to serve the public....they have become our slave masters......we&#039;re being sqeezed on all sides........now we have the pressure of looking over our shoulders for the popo while driving......we the sheeple are doomed to servitude an fear while one freedom after next is snatched from your grasp......we are slowly becoming &quot;the land of the imprisoned and the home of the cowards&quot;.......peace.....if you can find some.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the new world order&#8230;&#8230;.somebodys gonna snap under the pressure from those we thought were elected to serve the public&#8230;.they have become our slave masters&#8230;&#8230;we&#8217;re being sqeezed on all sides&#8230;&#8230;..now we have the pressure of looking over our shoulders for the popo while driving&#8230;&#8230;we the sheeple are doomed to servitude an fear while one freedom after next is snatched from your grasp&#8230;&#8230;we are slowly becoming &#8220;the land of the imprisoned and the home of the cowards&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;.peace&#8230;..if you can find some.</p>
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		<title>By: Cory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those idiots that say if you dont like america then move..... It ain&#039;t that easy to leave!!! The frickin&#039; government has made it damn near impossible for an ordinary person to move because you cant get papers to work in most other countries very easily if you are an american! Try opening a bank account as an american in a lot of countries and you will be told your business and money is not welcome!! They don&#039;t want you to leave!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those idiots that say if you dont like america then move&#8230;.. It ain&#8217;t that easy to leave!!! The frickin&#8217; government has made it damn near impossible for an ordinary person to move because you cant get papers to work in most other countries very easily if you are an american! Try opening a bank account as an american in a lot of countries and you will be told your business and money is not welcome!! They don&#8217;t want you to leave!!</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Hurst Tx. I was accused of having a counterfeit vehicle registration sticker.  Huh?  I got it at the county sub-courthouse!  The accuser was a fanatical rookie &amp; he was pulled off me by his 2 trainers.  In NM at a roadblock I was demanded to say where I had driven from that AM---none of their legit business to know.  Face it--high school bullies become policemen so they can continue to bully.  In Bedford TX. I was detained by cops while walking my dog till a Hurst cop could arrive to see if I was the one he was looking for who ran from a traffic stop.  He saw I was not, and walked off with arrogant swagger.  No apology for my lost time &amp; stress!  And they wonder &quot;why don&#039;t people like us?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Hurst Tx. I was accused of having a counterfeit vehicle registration sticker.  Huh?  I got it at the county sub-courthouse!  The accuser was a fanatical rookie &amp; he was pulled off me by his 2 trainers.  In NM at a roadblock I was demanded to say where I had driven from that AM&#8212;none of their legit business to know.  Face it&#8211;high school bullies become policemen so they can continue to bully.  In Bedford TX. I was detained by cops while walking my dog till a Hurst cop could arrive to see if I was the one he was looking for who ran from a traffic stop.  He saw I was not, and walked off with arrogant swagger.  No apology for my lost time &amp; stress!  And they wonder &#8220;why don&#8217;t people like us?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: NERVEAGENTVX</title>
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		<dc:creator>NERVEAGENTVX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 07:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys think  the police mafia are bad with thier usury of drivers to create revenues. Come to MI where driving offenses not only get paid for in court, but then you get another bill in the mail a month later from the MI state department of treasury for a &quot;DRIVERS RESPONSIBILITY FEE&quot;. You see the courts can&#039;t get around the double jeopardy, so the just change the name of the government agency at the top of the paperwork and go ahead and fine you twice...Oh by the way don&#039;t pay it and get your license suspended indefinitely. Oh thanks michigan for no lube or reach around!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys think  the police mafia are bad with thier usury of drivers to create revenues. Come to MI where driving offenses not only get paid for in court, but then you get another bill in the mail a month later from the MI state department of treasury for a &#8220;DRIVERS RESPONSIBILITY FEE&#8221;. You see the courts can&#8217;t get around the double jeopardy, so the just change the name of the government agency at the top of the paperwork and go ahead and fine you twice&#8230;Oh by the way don&#8217;t pay it and get your license suspended indefinitely. Oh thanks michigan for no lube or reach around!</p>
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		<title>By: John Drake</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Drake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 03:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Top 10 Tips For Traffic Court

Written by Marc Stevens Tuesday, 28 August 2007 10:42

If you&#039;re unfortunate to have gotten a traffic ticket, keep the following tips in mind, your chances of getting it kicked out are much greater:

1. Do not be argumentative.
2. Don’t bring your own opinion or arguments to convince the judge.
3. Stick to the facts.
4. Repeat I am not an attorney I don’t understand.
5. Don’t object and press a particular point more than twice.
6. Stay on point.
7. Only accept responsive answers to questions.
8. Ask questions
9. Get judge and, or the prosecutor to commit to positions.
10. Use those positions/arguments against the judge or prosecutor.
1.  Traffic courts are scams run by people only interested in taking money.  They are not in place to administer justice.  Being argumentative only ensures you will be separated from your money.  Going in thinking justice is being administered is to start off on the wrong foot.  Any traffic court judge interested in administering justice would throw out the majority of traffic tickets within minutes of them being filed by the police and mail an apology to each defendant for their time wasted on the traffic stop.


2.  Traffic court judges don’t care what we think, except of course what we think is the easiest and fastest way to pay the court fine.  We are considered guilty the moment the cop decides to write the ticket.  Traffic court is about making it look good and the judge is always going to be perceived as correct and you wrong.  After all, he’s judge.  But, we can get the judge to contradict himself.  If an argument or opinion is used, it should always be the judge’s.

3.  Sticking to the facts is the fastest and most effective way to demonstrate there is no case.  Just asking a couple of questions is usually enough to have the only witness against you declared incompetent which requires his testimony, including the ticket, to be stricken.  Keep in mind that impeaching the only witness does not mean a judge will strike the testimony and throw the ticket out.  

4.  All non-lawyers are legally incapable of defending themselves and it is unfair to put someone on trial who does not understand the nature and cause of the proceedings against them.  The more the judge explains about what is going on, the more can be used to make him contradict himself and prove there is no case.

5.  This is related to number one.  If I keep pressing a point the judge is only going to get angry and judges are notorious for having anger management problems.  Remember, traffic court judges do not care.  One thing they care about is making the robbery look good.  Don’t help him make it look good.

6.  Lawyers, with and without those flowing black robes, are masters of diversion.  Never forget their goal is not getting to the truth and administering justice, it’s about getting the money you worked hard to earn.  If they get you off-point, they win; your attention on real issues is gone and before you know it the proceeding is over.  

7.  Only accepting responsive answers keeps things on point and works to destroy the appearance of a case.  Beware though, know in advance what is responsive to the question.  Bureaucrats are very good at giving what may appear to be responsive answers; they may sound good, but they are not responsive.  A good example is “Factually, what is the constitution?” and the bureaucrat answers with: “It’s the supreme law of the law.”  It sounds impressive, but it’s not responsive to the question.  A responsive answer is devastating to a bureaucrat’s case.  I have several scripts available I have used in court successfully.

8.  One tactic judges, lawyers and bureaucrats use to divert attention away from what they are doing is to accuse people of “arguing.”  This is an attempt to make anyone in court look bad, as if we’re the problem and not the traffic court.  By just asking questions, we can point out we not arguing, just asking questions.  From experience, this is very embarrassing for the individual accusing me of arguing.  Asking questions is also incredibly effective at demonstrating there is no case, provided of course, we stay on point and only accept responsive answers.

9. Traffic court judges do not care if you think they have violated the constitution or the law.  But, because their main job is to make robbing people look good, traffic court judges do not like to contradict themselves.  To do this, I ask questions to get the judge to commit to certain positions e.g., “Am I entitled to be informed of the nature and cause of the charges and proceedings?” and “Am I entitled to a fair hearing?”  Because the very nature of traffic courts is unfair, it’s easy to get the judge to contradict himself.

10.  The judge’s and prosecutor’s positions can always be used to get them to contradict themselves later.  As with the first question above, after a few more questions the judge will say, “I’m not here to answer your questions.”  I just have to then remind him he already told me I was entitled to be informed.  Also, by asking just a couple of questions, I’ve had judges declare a witness competent, incompetent and then competent again in only a few minutes.  By contradicting himself like that, all pretense of fairness is gone.

One of the most valuable pieces of information you can learn about traffic courts and bureaucrat attacks is this: A ticket/complaint is not synonymous with a case.  Of course a traffic court judge will disagree with this, his object is not truth and justice, it’s taking money away from people.

Remember, just because a cop writes a ticket does not mean he has presented a case before a court.  No court has the “legal” authority to proceed against someone unless a case is presented to it, this is just a short list of the “authorities” to prove it.  However, traffic court judges are interested only in getting your money, so things like the “law” do not interest them.  I discuss this in detail in my book Adventures in Legal Land, in several articles and on my radio show The No State Project.  There are also archived radio shows I’ve appeared on here and a new video series here about beating traffic tickets .



Marc Stevens is an author, consultant and radio show host.  He is an expert on the nature of the court system, his groundbreaking book Adventures in Legal Land rips the veil of legitimacy from the “state” and exposes it for what it is, a public relations scheme.  Using their own words against them, Marc Stevens proves there is no state.  You can listen to his radio show The No State Project live every Saturday on We the People Radio Network.</description>
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<p>Written by Marc Stevens Tuesday, 28 August 2007 10:42</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re unfortunate to have gotten a traffic ticket, keep the following tips in mind, your chances of getting it kicked out are much greater:</p>
<p>1. Do not be argumentative.<br />
2. Don’t bring your own opinion or arguments to convince the judge.<br />
3. Stick to the facts.<br />
4. Repeat I am not an attorney I don’t understand.<br />
5. Don’t object and press a particular point more than twice.<br />
6. Stay on point.<br />
7. Only accept responsive answers to questions.<br />
8. Ask questions<br />
9. Get judge and, or the prosecutor to commit to positions.<br />
10. Use those positions/arguments against the judge or prosecutor.<br />
1.  Traffic courts are scams run by people only interested in taking money.  They are not in place to administer justice.  Being argumentative only ensures you will be separated from your money.  Going in thinking justice is being administered is to start off on the wrong foot.  Any traffic court judge interested in administering justice would throw out the majority of traffic tickets within minutes of them being filed by the police and mail an apology to each defendant for their time wasted on the traffic stop.</p>
<p>2.  Traffic court judges don’t care what we think, except of course what we think is the easiest and fastest way to pay the court fine.  We are considered guilty the moment the cop decides to write the ticket.  Traffic court is about making it look good and the judge is always going to be perceived as correct and you wrong.  After all, he’s judge.  But, we can get the judge to contradict himself.  If an argument or opinion is used, it should always be the judge’s.</p>
<p>3.  Sticking to the facts is the fastest and most effective way to demonstrate there is no case.  Just asking a couple of questions is usually enough to have the only witness against you declared incompetent which requires his testimony, including the ticket, to be stricken.  Keep in mind that impeaching the only witness does not mean a judge will strike the testimony and throw the ticket out.  </p>
<p>4.  All non-lawyers are legally incapable of defending themselves and it is unfair to put someone on trial who does not understand the nature and cause of the proceedings against them.  The more the judge explains about what is going on, the more can be used to make him contradict himself and prove there is no case.</p>
<p>5.  This is related to number one.  If I keep pressing a point the judge is only going to get angry and judges are notorious for having anger management problems.  Remember, traffic court judges do not care.  One thing they care about is making the robbery look good.  Don’t help him make it look good.</p>
<p>6.  Lawyers, with and without those flowing black robes, are masters of diversion.  Never forget their goal is not getting to the truth and administering justice, it’s about getting the money you worked hard to earn.  If they get you off-point, they win; your attention on real issues is gone and before you know it the proceeding is over.  </p>
<p>7.  Only accepting responsive answers keeps things on point and works to destroy the appearance of a case.  Beware though, know in advance what is responsive to the question.  Bureaucrats are very good at giving what may appear to be responsive answers; they may sound good, but they are not responsive.  A good example is “Factually, what is the constitution?” and the bureaucrat answers with: “It’s the supreme law of the law.”  It sounds impressive, but it’s not responsive to the question.  A responsive answer is devastating to a bureaucrat’s case.  I have several scripts available I have used in court successfully.</p>
<p>8.  One tactic judges, lawyers and bureaucrats use to divert attention away from what they are doing is to accuse people of “arguing.”  This is an attempt to make anyone in court look bad, as if we’re the problem and not the traffic court.  By just asking questions, we can point out we not arguing, just asking questions.  From experience, this is very embarrassing for the individual accusing me of arguing.  Asking questions is also incredibly effective at demonstrating there is no case, provided of course, we stay on point and only accept responsive answers.</p>
<p>9. Traffic court judges do not care if you think they have violated the constitution or the law.  But, because their main job is to make robbing people look good, traffic court judges do not like to contradict themselves.  To do this, I ask questions to get the judge to commit to certain positions e.g., “Am I entitled to be informed of the nature and cause of the charges and proceedings?” and “Am I entitled to a fair hearing?”  Because the very nature of traffic courts is unfair, it’s easy to get the judge to contradict himself.</p>
<p>10.  The judge’s and prosecutor’s positions can always be used to get them to contradict themselves later.  As with the first question above, after a few more questions the judge will say, “I’m not here to answer your questions.”  I just have to then remind him he already told me I was entitled to be informed.  Also, by asking just a couple of questions, I’ve had judges declare a witness competent, incompetent and then competent again in only a few minutes.  By contradicting himself like that, all pretense of fairness is gone.</p>
<p>One of the most valuable pieces of information you can learn about traffic courts and bureaucrat attacks is this: A ticket/complaint is not synonymous with a case.  Of course a traffic court judge will disagree with this, his object is not truth and justice, it’s taking money away from people.</p>
<p>Remember, just because a cop writes a ticket does not mean he has presented a case before a court.  No court has the “legal” authority to proceed against someone unless a case is presented to it, this is just a short list of the “authorities” to prove it.  However, traffic court judges are interested only in getting your money, so things like the “law” do not interest them.  I discuss this in detail in my book Adventures in Legal Land, in several articles and on my radio show The No State Project.  There are also archived radio shows I’ve appeared on here and a new video series here about beating traffic tickets .</p>
<p>Marc Stevens is an author, consultant and radio show host.  He is an expert on the nature of the court system, his groundbreaking book Adventures in Legal Land rips the veil of legitimacy from the “state” and exposes it for what it is, a public relations scheme.  Using their own words against them, Marc Stevens proves there is no state.  You can listen to his radio show The No State Project live every Saturday on We the People Radio Network.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beau Deters can you email me at mclc432@aol.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beau Deters can you email me at <a href="mailto:mclc432@aol.com">mclc432@aol.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: stupidamerkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>stupidamerkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wake up folks. You need to learn how to win your cases through default which works over 90% of the time. The minute you get an esquire, your chances of winning drop dramatically, especially when he gives you his bill. He is the only one who wins even if he looses your case. We all know what a corrupt system we have today with the road pirates just doing their job or following orders like they did in Germany back in the 40&#039;s.
Every time someone gets a ticket, (contract)they need to immediately start filing papers and put these thugs and their bosses including the courts, (dens of corruption) on the defense instead of you.
If they are going to exhort dollars, (frauds, notes of debt)out of your pocket, you should make them work for it. There is no difference between someone who steals your wallet or steals out of it. These thugs are criminals from the very scum bottom right to the very top PERIOD!! How could any of them function in the corrupt environment they slither in without being corrupt them self? 
It is out of control across the country. I could sit in one of their dog and pony shows they call courts, traffic courts, administrative hearings, what ever,  and watch more crimes being committed in one hour then I have seen my entire life of 60 years on this planet. Twilight Zone on Steroids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wake up folks. You need to learn how to win your cases through default which works over 90% of the time. The minute you get an esquire, your chances of winning drop dramatically, especially when he gives you his bill. He is the only one who wins even if he looses your case. We all know what a corrupt system we have today with the road pirates just doing their job or following orders like they did in Germany back in the 40&#8242;s.<br />
Every time someone gets a ticket, (contract)they need to immediately start filing papers and put these thugs and their bosses including the courts, (dens of corruption) on the defense instead of you.<br />
If they are going to exhort dollars, (frauds, notes of debt)out of your pocket, you should make them work for it. There is no difference between someone who steals your wallet or steals out of it. These thugs are criminals from the very scum bottom right to the very top PERIOD!! How could any of them function in the corrupt environment they slither in without being corrupt them self?<br />
It is out of control across the country. I could sit in one of their dog and pony shows they call courts, traffic courts, administrative hearings, what ever,  and watch more crimes being committed in one hour then I have seen my entire life of 60 years on this planet. Twilight Zone on Steroids.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dang, where are the sons of liberty?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dang, where are the sons of liberty?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every year the CHP says how much their speeding tickets are saving lives.  You can go on the NHTSA website, and it will show you a map of highways, and every death in the past several years.  I couldn&#039;t find one sober person who was speeding, who caused a death on the local freeways, except for a motorcyclist who went off the road.  Yet people are still speeding over the artificially low freeway speed limits.  It&#039;s nothing but to make money, and brainwash the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every year the CHP says how much their speeding tickets are saving lives.  You can go on the NHTSA website, and it will show you a map of highways, and every death in the past several years.  I couldn&#8217;t find one sober person who was speeding, who caused a death on the local freeways, except for a motorcyclist who went off the road.  Yet people are still speeding over the artificially low freeway speed limits.  It&#8217;s nothing but to make money, and brainwash the public.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Michaels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Michaels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EVERY individual that received a ticket should contest it in court!!  When the troopers are &#039;wolf-packing&#039; it is highly unlikely that everyone was actually speeding.  PROOF PLEASE in court, trial by jury.</description>
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		<title>By: Bob Bogus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Bogus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are a country of sheep and slaves.  

The AmeroConned Sheeple will just keep putting up with this cr@pola and baa with alacrity while asking their government masters for more.

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<p>The AmeroConned Sheeple will just keep putting up with this cr@pola and baa with alacrity while asking their government masters for more.</p>
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