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		<title>By: Victor Ingram</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor Ingram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, as a capitalist I go round and round with some of the Democrats, or what I label as liberal-socialists these days over economic issues. Now we have a new Financial Reform Bill, one we are promised with stop the next economic crisis, and bubble bursting calamity. Indeed, indeed, or should I say doubtful. And realize although I may appear to be cynical here, I must tell you I am not, I just have been watching the history for the last four decades, more like living it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, as a capitalist I go round and round with some of the Democrats, or what I label as liberal-socialists these days over economic issues. Now we have a new Financial Reform Bill, one we are promised with stop the next economic crisis, and bubble bursting calamity. Indeed, indeed, or should I say doubtful. And realize although I may appear to be cynical here, I must tell you I am not, I just have been watching the history for the last four decades, more like living it.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 19:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree, Lennie. These folks don&#039;t believe in any God. They are blinded by science and greed. In their minds, they are the appointed caretakers of the earth, much the way policemen believe they are the caretakers of the common citizen. This perception inevitably creates a contempt for those one is &quot;looking after&quot;, which evolves into a hatred. Feeling they have the requisite wisdom to fashion the world as they see fit, they will attempt to create a world they belive is somehow &quot;just&quot;, and as we know, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Of course, just as in the case of policemen and armed forces, it&#039;s nice that they do what they do, but it is we the people who are responsible for their positions in the first place. Likewise, the &quot;elite&quot;, despite their vast powers of money and manipulation, have nothing aside from us.
As to prophecy, there is much open to interpretation, and just when anyone thinks they have &quot;unlocked&quot; revelation, something else happens that throws it all back up into the air again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree, Lennie. These folks don&#8217;t believe in any God. They are blinded by science and greed. In their minds, they are the appointed caretakers of the earth, much the way policemen believe they are the caretakers of the common citizen. This perception inevitably creates a contempt for those one is &#8220;looking after&#8221;, which evolves into a hatred. Feeling they have the requisite wisdom to fashion the world as they see fit, they will attempt to create a world they belive is somehow &#8220;just&#8221;, and as we know, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.<br />
Of course, just as in the case of policemen and armed forces, it&#8217;s nice that they do what they do, but it is we the people who are responsible for their positions in the first place. Likewise, the &#8220;elite&#8221;, despite their vast powers of money and manipulation, have nothing aside from us.<br />
As to prophecy, there is much open to interpretation, and just when anyone thinks they have &#8220;unlocked&#8221; revelation, something else happens that throws it all back up into the air again.</p>
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		<title>By: Lennie Pike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lennie Pike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 13:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cee:

More than money and control of everything, they want your willing obedience, your worship, and your soul because God and righteousness is their enemy.  That is the main thing they are all about.  Do you know any people that you are willing to give those things to? They will offer you the opportunity to live comfortably instead of the suffering that they engineered or being killed by their hands in exchange for your soul.  Since obviously they are not greater than God, they and any one who sides up with them will be eternal sufferers and losers. 

 Logical proof is not the basis for anyone to be a believer and follower of Jesus Christ, but if that is what you are looking for now, you should read the Bible (Daniel, Ezekiel and all of the New Testament) because many prophecies found there have already come to happen, most in the past century and at an ever increasing pace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cee:</p>
<p>More than money and control of everything, they want your willing obedience, your worship, and your soul because God and righteousness is their enemy.  That is the main thing they are all about.  Do you know any people that you are willing to give those things to? They will offer you the opportunity to live comfortably instead of the suffering that they engineered or being killed by their hands in exchange for your soul.  Since obviously they are not greater than God, they and any one who sides up with them will be eternal sufferers and losers. </p>
<p> Logical proof is not the basis for anyone to be a believer and follower of Jesus Christ, but if that is what you are looking for now, you should read the Bible (Daniel, Ezekiel and all of the New Testament) because many prophecies found there have already come to happen, most in the past century and at an ever increasing pace.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 00:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cee--
The New World Order idea has some archaic roots, most specifically in the period between 1776 and 1792. The American Revolutionary War overthrew the British crown and established a &quot;new world order&quot; in that it was a kingdom without a king--recall that our constitution allows only white, male landowners to vote. Later came the French Revolution, vastly more important than the Americna in that they killed their king, cast down the old order and established a republic. Both of these events were, according to tradition, influenced by secret societies that were out to establish a new world order--Illuminati, Freemason, etc. It&#039;s anyones call whether that is true or not, but by 1815 the king was back in France and things went normal for awhile. The NWO at that point may have been conceived as the end of monarchy, and by the end of WWI in 1918, thats what it was.
Christians believe the NWO is what they call the &quot;beast&quot; or &quot;Babylon&quot; or the &quot;anit-Christ&quot; based on select verses in Revelation. They are waiting for an all-powerful seed of Satan to arrive and create a world empire richer and more powerful than any seen before--he will rule the world and force everyone to get the mark of the beast(666).
HOWEVER(and you Christians should pay attention here) there is already a New World Order, instituted after the end of WWII called the UN. There is already a nation ruling the world that is more rich and powerful than ay other in all history--the United States! And the name &quot;anti-Christ&quot; is nowhere found in the book of Revelation.

So, Cee, the elitists(as I like to call the corporocratic scumbags that run the world via the World Bank, World Trade Organization, and United Nations Security Council(which still holds power 60 YEARS AFTER WWII!!!)) are already in total control, and what they want is as much wealth as they can get.
Think of as the same zero-sum game that they played during the Cold War--a gain for one side as a minus for the other? Well, any money in anyone elses pocket--especially filthy poor rabble like us--is money that they feel should be in their pocket--and they&#039;ll do anything to get it!!

That, friend, is the gist of the notorious NWO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cee&#8211;<br />
The New World Order idea has some archaic roots, most specifically in the period between 1776 and 1792. The American Revolutionary War overthrew the British crown and established a &#8220;new world order&#8221; in that it was a kingdom without a king&#8211;recall that our constitution allows only white, male landowners to vote. Later came the French Revolution, vastly more important than the Americna in that they killed their king, cast down the old order and established a republic. Both of these events were, according to tradition, influenced by secret societies that were out to establish a new world order&#8211;Illuminati, Freemason, etc. It&#8217;s anyones call whether that is true or not, but by 1815 the king was back in France and things went normal for awhile. The NWO at that point may have been conceived as the end of monarchy, and by the end of WWI in 1918, thats what it was.<br />
Christians believe the NWO is what they call the &#8220;beast&#8221; or &#8220;Babylon&#8221; or the &#8220;anit-Christ&#8221; based on select verses in Revelation. They are waiting for an all-powerful seed of Satan to arrive and create a world empire richer and more powerful than any seen before&#8211;he will rule the world and force everyone to get the mark of the beast(666).<br />
HOWEVER(and you Christians should pay attention here) there is already a New World Order, instituted after the end of WWII called the UN. There is already a nation ruling the world that is more rich and powerful than ay other in all history&#8211;the United States! And the name &#8220;anti-Christ&#8221; is nowhere found in the book of Revelation.</p>
<p>So, Cee, the elitists(as I like to call the corporocratic scumbags that run the world via the World Bank, World Trade Organization, and United Nations Security Council(which still holds power 60 YEARS AFTER WWII!!!)) are already in total control, and what they want is as much wealth as they can get.<br />
Think of as the same zero-sum game that they played during the Cold War&#8211;a gain for one side as a minus for the other? Well, any money in anyone elses pocket&#8211;especially filthy poor rabble like us&#8211;is money that they feel should be in their pocket&#8211;and they&#8217;ll do anything to get it!!</p>
<p>That, friend, is the gist of the notorious NWO.</p>
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		<title>By: Flyer1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flyer1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 02:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on folks, these people own our government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on folks, these people own our government.</p>
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		<title>By: TK</title>
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		<dc:creator>TK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CEE&#039;s Answer Could this be a bad thing ?

It all depends on how much you love your freedom. The idea that we could get a mark/chip that no one can buy or sell unless they have it is a huge loss of freedom. To think that every thing you buy or sell would be easily tracked and counted, to think that many people would have access to this kind of data base is mind boggling.

It also depends on your world view, if you think like I do, then you know that this mark/chip was predicted by my Lord Jesus Christ almost 2,000 years ago. And He clearly states many times that the ruler of this world is the devil. That is why the Bible says that friendship with this world makes you an enemy of God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CEE&#8217;s Answer Could this be a bad thing ?</p>
<p>It all depends on how much you love your freedom. The idea that we could get a mark/chip that no one can buy or sell unless they have it is a huge loss of freedom. To think that every thing you buy or sell would be easily tracked and counted, to think that many people would have access to this kind of data base is mind boggling.</p>
<p>It also depends on your world view, if you think like I do, then you know that this mark/chip was predicted by my Lord Jesus Christ almost 2,000 years ago. And He clearly states many times that the ruler of this world is the devil. That is why the Bible says that friendship with this world makes you an enemy of God.</p>
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		<title>By: Mojogoober</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mojogoober</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Colonel has it right. This is the same Kabuki/WWF theatre that plays out with any significant legislation.  The leaders of congress get together and decide who gets to be on either side of the issue, then they &quot;wrestle&quot; with it for a while to give the impression that there is really a battle going on. All the while the affected lobbyists write the bill in such a way that makes it look like something is actually happening and in the end something worthless gets passed with great fanfare. 

Bottom line is we dont have a functioning democracy in this country, so no amount of calls to your congressmen will do anything. You want to see the future?...  Watch &quot;Idiocracy&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Colonel has it right. This is the same Kabuki/WWF theatre that plays out with any significant legislation.  The leaders of congress get together and decide who gets to be on either side of the issue, then they &#8220;wrestle&#8221; with it for a while to give the impression that there is really a battle going on. All the while the affected lobbyists write the bill in such a way that makes it look like something is actually happening and in the end something worthless gets passed with great fanfare. </p>
<p>Bottom line is we dont have a functioning democracy in this country, so no amount of calls to your congressmen will do anything. You want to see the future?&#8230;  Watch &#8220;Idiocracy&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Pokey McGee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pokey McGee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cee:  your suspicions show good judgment.  Look, every country goes through some tough times every once in a while.  We are in one of those tough times right now.  BUT, that does not mean the only reason is because some faceless, baseless entity called the &quot;new world order&quot; is taking over the globe.  Everybody who supports this asinine theory says the NWO wants to take over the world, control everybody, etc.  For what reason?  How are they going to control it?  Nobody knows the answers to these questions.

It is a conspiracy theory because it is just that -- a conspiracy.  Don&#039;t waste your time trying to connect the dots of this silly fantasy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cee:  your suspicions show good judgment.  Look, every country goes through some tough times every once in a while.  We are in one of those tough times right now.  BUT, that does not mean the only reason is because some faceless, baseless entity called the &#8220;new world order&#8221; is taking over the globe.  Everybody who supports this asinine theory says the NWO wants to take over the world, control everybody, etc.  For what reason?  How are they going to control it?  Nobody knows the answers to these questions.</p>
<p>It is a conspiracy theory because it is just that &#8212; a conspiracy.  Don&#8217;t waste your time trying to connect the dots of this silly fantasy.</p>
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		<title>By: Cee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pokey McGee said:

&quot;The answer to your question is that there is no “New World Order.” It is a conspiracy fantasy decades old which has been amplified by the internet. The idea of the NWO is as sophomoric as a villain from an Austin Powers movie. The whole notion that the “NWO is taking over” has been around for years, and guess what — it hasn’t taken over yet.&quot;

I want to bring up something that I have noticed. Remember Y2K? I was a teenager when it was supposed to take place. I remember many christians saying it was the end of the world, I look on the internet now and I see many people back then said that the NWO was to come after that incident. But it never even happened. I remember several years ago when gas was $4 a gallon. Many people said that was going to be the end of oil, the cost going up because of the lack of it. Didn&#039;t happen and the price slightly went back down. I hear people say oil is going up because of the BP incident, well it&#039;s been going on for awhile and gas is around $2.50-@2.80 a gallon in my area (DC Metropolitan area) and for the last several years gas has always went up in the summer and it&#039;s summer now. I understand the financial facts and everything, I just can&#039;t forget how all of this feels like those prior events. It&#039;s making me really suspicious and upset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pokey McGee said:</p>
<p>&#8220;The answer to your question is that there is no “New World Order.” It is a conspiracy fantasy decades old which has been amplified by the internet. The idea of the NWO is as sophomoric as a villain from an Austin Powers movie. The whole notion that the “NWO is taking over” has been around for years, and guess what — it hasn’t taken over yet.&#8221;</p>
<p>I want to bring up something that I have noticed. Remember Y2K? I was a teenager when it was supposed to take place. I remember many christians saying it was the end of the world, I look on the internet now and I see many people back then said that the NWO was to come after that incident. But it never even happened. I remember several years ago when gas was $4 a gallon. Many people said that was going to be the end of oil, the cost going up because of the lack of it. Didn&#8217;t happen and the price slightly went back down. I hear people say oil is going up because of the BP incident, well it&#8217;s been going on for awhile and gas is around $2.50-@2.80 a gallon in my area (DC Metropolitan area) and for the last several years gas has always went up in the summer and it&#8217;s summer now. I understand the financial facts and everything, I just can&#8217;t forget how all of this feels like those prior events. It&#8217;s making me really suspicious and upset.</p>
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		<title>By: Cee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you all for the answers to my questions. But, I have a couple more. It seems that the idea that the NWO being evil is from the bible. When you look at the way the world is set up now, do you think that an NWO is a natural progression of the government? I had heard somewhere on the Internet that they had planned to make the chip which would of been &quot;the mark of the beast&quot; and they passed on it, they want to make an ID card with a chip instead. Looking at the way the world and all the different countries are interconnected through their economies, would this be something bad? Some could look at this as progress, shocking the system to start something new. I understand that this is a senstive topic, but I&#039;m just a simple man looking for some answers and once again, I appreciate your time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you all for the answers to my questions. But, I have a couple more. It seems that the idea that the NWO being evil is from the bible. When you look at the way the world is set up now, do you think that an NWO is a natural progression of the government? I had heard somewhere on the Internet that they had planned to make the chip which would of been &#8220;the mark of the beast&#8221; and they passed on it, they want to make an ID card with a chip instead. Looking at the way the world and all the different countries are interconnected through their economies, would this be something bad? Some could look at this as progress, shocking the system to start something new. I understand that this is a senstive topic, but I&#8217;m just a simple man looking for some answers and once again, I appreciate your time.</p>
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