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	<title>Comments on: Will Genetic Modification Usher In A New Age Of Prosperity Or Will It Unleash Health, Environmental And Economic Nightmares Of Unprecedented Magnitude?</title>
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		<title>By: Asking guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asking guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>U know my last coment is that even possible and can u make them shoot spider silk from their flowers</description>
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		<title>By: Asking guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asking guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN DO THE GENE THING CAN YOU MAKE ME A SUNFLOWER AND A PUMPKIN SEED THAT ARE MASSIV AN GROW REAL FAST PLS!</description>
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		<title>By: April</title>
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		<dc:creator>April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc the &quot;scientist&quot;: what is the difference between vertical inheritance and horizontal inheritance? As a scientist, can you describe this for us? Might shed some light here....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc the &#8220;scientist&#8221;: what is the difference between vertical inheritance and horizontal inheritance? As a scientist, can you describe this for us? Might shed some light here&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lennie Pike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lennie Pike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 04:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe in JT:

Your all so true scenario could only happen in the U.S.  If Monsanto sued and arrived to take someone&#039;s stuff in any other country for those reasons, 99% of the time the Sheriff or whoever tried it would get the crap beat of em.  But 99% of other countries wouldn&#039;t allow Monsanto to do what they do here in the first place. Must be something in the food supply that makes us so docile, trusting, and disconnected from reality.  As a matter of fact I know from living in Brazil for the last year that is true.  I could tell a huge difference in the way I (for loss of a better way to say it) was. All of the food I ate was old school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe in JT:</p>
<p>Your all so true scenario could only happen in the U.S.  If Monsanto sued and arrived to take someone&#8217;s stuff in any other country for those reasons, 99% of the time the Sheriff or whoever tried it would get the crap beat of em.  But 99% of other countries wouldn&#8217;t allow Monsanto to do what they do here in the first place. Must be something in the food supply that makes us so docile, trusting, and disconnected from reality.  As a matter of fact I know from living in Brazil for the last year that is true.  I could tell a huge difference in the way I (for loss of a better way to say it) was. All of the food I ate was old school.</p>
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		<title>By: X</title>
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		<dc:creator>X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like in the days of Noah.</description>
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		<title>By: Joe in JT</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe in JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Monsanto, they will not rest until every seed is a terminator seed.  You buy the 10 seeds in a packet from Wal-Mart for $19.99.  You plant them in the ground and have to use Round-up or they won&#039;t grow.  Then next spring you do it all over again, because if you save seeds and try to replant, they won&#039;t grow. If by some miracle you do grow a plant from saved seeds, Monsanto sues you and takes all your stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Monsanto, they will not rest until every seed is a terminator seed.  You buy the 10 seeds in a packet from Wal-Mart for $19.99.  You plant them in the ground and have to use Round-up or they won&#8217;t grow.  Then next spring you do it all over again, because if you save seeds and try to replant, they won&#8217;t grow. If by some miracle you do grow a plant from saved seeds, Monsanto sues you and takes all your stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Lennie Pike</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/will-genetic-modification-usher-in-a-new-age-of-prosperity-or-will-it-unleash-health-environmental-and-economic-nightmares-of-unprecedented-magnitude/comment-page-1#comment-5324</link>
		<dc:creator>Lennie Pike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 17:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ann: Are you taken?</description>
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		<title>By: ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 15:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good morning all of you who seek to control everything and everyone on the planet.  Your tinkering with food, weather, genetics, thought and mind control, population control, rewilding of north america...etc, etc:  will serve you NOT. Shame on you for trying to recreate/find the boson particle at CERN.  oops.  Love to the rest and we will deal with you cruel ones on Pentecost 2012.........you know the place. Time tba.                    love, ann</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning all of you who seek to control everything and everyone on the planet.  Your tinkering with food, weather, genetics, thought and mind control, population control, rewilding of north america&#8230;etc, etc:  will serve you NOT. Shame on you for trying to recreate/find the boson particle at CERN.  oops.  Love to the rest and we will deal with you cruel ones on Pentecost 2012&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;you know the place. Time tba.                    love, ann</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If GM is as safe as it&#039;s cheerleaders tell us, how about they accept liability for any and all damages caused by the release of GMO&#039;s, before they are allowed to release them?
Find me one insurer who would take on this risk?There aren&#039;t any.The truth is no one knows the consequences of release of GMO&#039;s, short, mid or long term.
Like the sorceror&#039;s apprenctice Monsanto et al wave the wand with no thought other than making this quarter&#039;s numbers.
If BP can&#039;t even control an oil spill, how can we trust the agro-business cartel to control a risk that can&#039;t even be quantified?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If GM is as safe as it&#8217;s cheerleaders tell us, how about they accept liability for any and all damages caused by the release of GMO&#8217;s, before they are allowed to release them?<br />
Find me one insurer who would take on this risk?There aren&#8217;t any.The truth is no one knows the consequences of release of GMO&#8217;s, short, mid or long term.<br />
Like the sorceror&#8217;s apprenctice Monsanto et al wave the wand with no thought other than making this quarter&#8217;s numbers.<br />
If BP can&#8217;t even control an oil spill, how can we trust the agro-business cartel to control a risk that can&#8217;t even be quantified?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 09:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although people releasing chemically castrating corn is clearly a bad thing, can anyone here disagree that if science can invent horse-sized cats with wings, that we can ride around on and use as aerial transport then that is entirely a good thing?

Come on NWO scientists. Invent the Winged Cats and i&#039;ll happily pay through the nose for one. Just leave the toxic poison food alone and it&#039;s all good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although people releasing chemically castrating corn is clearly a bad thing, can anyone here disagree that if science can invent horse-sized cats with wings, that we can ride around on and use as aerial transport then that is entirely a good thing?</p>
<p>Come on NWO scientists. Invent the Winged Cats and i&#8217;ll happily pay through the nose for one. Just leave the toxic poison food alone and it&#8217;s all good.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe in JT</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe in JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 01:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The picture of that &quot;thing&quot; topping this article is what the average American will look like if that oil leak continues for 2 or more years.  What BP has done is peirce the center of the earth making the oil leak unstoppable.  Humans haven&#039;t figured out how to control 100,000 pounds per square inch.  Never mind the fact that it&#039;s one mile below the surface.  We couldn&#039;t stop oil at that pressure even it was on a work bench in the shop.  What&#039;s amazing is that BP is bragging how deep they are drilling on the oil rig Atlantis 200 miles away. Humans did it to themselves this time, ruining everything.  And the dopes in Louisiana are crying about not being able to drill for more oil due to O&#039;Bama&#039;s moratorium for 6 months on drilling.  They are thinking only about the money they aren&#039;t making. Now I know the meaning of the old phrase &quot;money is the route of all evil&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The picture of that &#8220;thing&#8221; topping this article is what the average American will look like if that oil leak continues for 2 or more years.  What BP has done is peirce the center of the earth making the oil leak unstoppable.  Humans haven&#8217;t figured out how to control 100,000 pounds per square inch.  Never mind the fact that it&#8217;s one mile below the surface.  We couldn&#8217;t stop oil at that pressure even it was on a work bench in the shop.  What&#8217;s amazing is that BP is bragging how deep they are drilling on the oil rig Atlantis 200 miles away. Humans did it to themselves this time, ruining everything.  And the dopes in Louisiana are crying about not being able to drill for more oil due to O&#8217;Bama&#8217;s moratorium for 6 months on drilling.  They are thinking only about the money they aren&#8217;t making. Now I know the meaning of the old phrase &#8220;money is the route of all evil&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: El Pollo de Oro</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Pollo de Oro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 00:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have some very bad news:

Soylent Green is PEOPLE!!!!!!!

It&#039;s PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!!!!!</description>
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<p>Soylent Green is PEOPLE!!!!!!!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: sharonsj</title>
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		<dc:creator>sharonsj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also view this as a matter of choice.  I choose not to eat GMOs--except our corporate-bought Congress refuses to label food, so I don&#039;t really have a choice, do I?  

There are studies that show eating GMOs is not good for you, but that never stopped a business from making money.  As long as the people don&#039;t count for anything, our voices won&#039;t be heard about this or any other topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also view this as a matter of choice.  I choose not to eat GMOs&#8211;except our corporate-bought Congress refuses to label food, so I don&#8217;t really have a choice, do I?  </p>
<p>There are studies that show eating GMOs is not good for you, but that never stopped a business from making money.  As long as the people don&#8217;t count for anything, our voices won&#8217;t be heard about this or any other topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Lennie Pike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lennie Pike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most scientists don&#039;t win many points in the common sense department.  For example, in the documentaries I&#039;ve seen about Stonehenge, the explanation they have given has ranged from magnetic levitation to various forces learned from Aliens from outer space.  

On you tube there is a video showing one man by himself raising a 6ft.x6ft.x25ft. block of concrete to a vertical position from laying horizontally on the ground by placing a log underneath and across it in the middle and then like a seesaw, placing weights on one end to raise the other end a little, and then placing blocking under that end that was raised 1ft.  Then back to the other side until that side is raised 1ft.  Back and forth until the block is raised horizontally to a height almost equal to it&#039;s length.  From there it was easy for him to cause one end to fall so that the block wound up in a vertical position.  All with out advanced Alien technology.

Similar powers were given to the Incas to build Mach Pichu, NOT.  There&#039;s no way the perfect joints between the stone blocks were made with any technologies we have available to us today, NOT.  The Incan Construction Project Manager instructed a worker,  &quot;this is your rough stone, your job and the job of your ancestors if you don&#039;t finish it before you die, is to cause the edges of this stone to fit perfectly with the edges of this other guy&#039;s stone here who will be working on his stone right next to you.  Now begin.&quot; 

2. So 97% of the genes of pigs and humans are the same.  I&#039;m not going to drink a glass of 97% water and 3% cyanide.

3. Genetic engineering can be done safely?  The only meaning that statement could have with certainty is that no one involved in the process of the engineering will be harmed assuming they don&#039;t ingest anything. There is no way to know what the long or short term effects of genetic splicing will be. Also the chances that they will not be done safely or tested well are more likely, just take a look at the Pharmaceutical Industry.

4.  True all plants and animals we eat have been genetically modified by man (or by chance)through natural selection but it has been within God&#039; rules, no gene splicing was done.  If a dog was forced by some weirdo to mate with a cat, no offspring was produced.  The rules wouldn&#039;t allow it. 

1. Nothing wrong with genetic modifications (allowed by God), I would believe.

p.s.  How did the man get the log under the block?  Dug a trench for it, placed the log in the trench, and then dug the dirt out from under the block except for where the ends of the logs were, I would think.  They did have shovels back then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most scientists don&#8217;t win many points in the common sense department.  For example, in the documentaries I&#8217;ve seen about Stonehenge, the explanation they have given has ranged from magnetic levitation to various forces learned from Aliens from outer space.  </p>
<p>On you tube there is a video showing one man by himself raising a 6ft.x6ft.x25ft. block of concrete to a vertical position from laying horizontally on the ground by placing a log underneath and across it in the middle and then like a seesaw, placing weights on one end to raise the other end a little, and then placing blocking under that end that was raised 1ft.  Then back to the other side until that side is raised 1ft.  Back and forth until the block is raised horizontally to a height almost equal to it&#8217;s length.  From there it was easy for him to cause one end to fall so that the block wound up in a vertical position.  All with out advanced Alien technology.</p>
<p>Similar powers were given to the Incas to build Mach Pichu, NOT.  There&#8217;s no way the perfect joints between the stone blocks were made with any technologies we have available to us today, NOT.  The Incan Construction Project Manager instructed a worker,  &#8220;this is your rough stone, your job and the job of your ancestors if you don&#8217;t finish it before you die, is to cause the edges of this stone to fit perfectly with the edges of this other guy&#8217;s stone here who will be working on his stone right next to you.  Now begin.&#8221; </p>
<p>2. So 97% of the genes of pigs and humans are the same.  I&#8217;m not going to drink a glass of 97% water and 3% cyanide.</p>
<p>3. Genetic engineering can be done safely?  The only meaning that statement could have with certainty is that no one involved in the process of the engineering will be harmed assuming they don&#8217;t ingest anything. There is no way to know what the long or short term effects of genetic splicing will be. Also the chances that they will not be done safely or tested well are more likely, just take a look at the Pharmaceutical Industry.</p>
<p>4.  True all plants and animals we eat have been genetically modified by man (or by chance)through natural selection but it has been within God&#8217; rules, no gene splicing was done.  If a dog was forced by some weirdo to mate with a cat, no offspring was produced.  The rules wouldn&#8217;t allow it. </p>
<p>1. Nothing wrong with genetic modifications (allowed by God), I would believe.</p>
<p>p.s.  How did the man get the log under the block?  Dug a trench for it, placed the log in the trench, and then dug the dirt out from under the block except for where the ends of the logs were, I would think.  They did have shovels back then.</p>
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		<title>By: Oya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very disturbing. Why is it when these “nazi-scientists” claim altruistic purposes for these acts against nature i.e., feeding the billions of starving, curing diseases etc., that this food ends up unlabeled in developed nation’s supermarkets where there is no massive hunger? Or, the diseases they claim these new developments are targeted are only spreading at an alarming rate and in younger and younger populations?  The so-called “starving masses” in Africa and as recently as Haiti, refuse to eat the modified grains and corn Monsanto recently dumped there. They would rather die than eat their modified poison.  We should be taking our cue from them.  The arrogance of humanity who thinks they can &quot;improve&quot; upon what god has taken millions of years to create will be the death of us all, including the environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very disturbing. Why is it when these “nazi-scientists” claim altruistic purposes for these acts against nature i.e., feeding the billions of starving, curing diseases etc., that this food ends up unlabeled in developed nation’s supermarkets where there is no massive hunger? Or, the diseases they claim these new developments are targeted are only spreading at an alarming rate and in younger and younger populations?  The so-called “starving masses” in Africa and as recently as Haiti, refuse to eat the modified grains and corn Monsanto recently dumped there. They would rather die than eat their modified poison.  We should be taking our cue from them.  The arrogance of humanity who thinks they can &#8220;improve&#8221; upon what god has taken millions of years to create will be the death of us all, including the environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Michaels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Michaels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 08:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, 

Let me quote your decidedly NON scientific statements:

&quot;Well, as a scientist I must do some defending here.

1) Nothing wrong with genetic modifications.&quot;

WHY DO YOU SAY THIS? SUCH DOGMATIC AND UNSUBSTANTIATED STATEMENTS ARE WHOLLY UNSCIENTIFIC

&quot;2) We already share many (like 97%) of our genes with pigs and mice.&quot;

THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DORMANT GENES AND SPLICING ACTIVE GENES INTO ORGANISMS.  ALSO THIS ARTICLE IS ABOUT GM FOOD NOT HUMAN DNA WHICH IS ALREADY PROVEN TO BE DEADLY BOTH LONG AND SHORT TERM.

&quot;3) Genetic engineering can be done safely and be well tested before being introduced to an environment.&quot;

CAN AND WILL ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.  BP COULD HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE IN DRILLING FOR OIL BUT THEY WEREN&#039;T.  TOYOTA COULD HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE IN ACCELERATOR DESIGN BUT THEY WEREN&#039;T.  WHAT COULD BE IS NOT SCIENTIFIC JUSTIFICATION FOR ANYTHING.

&quot;4) All plants and animals that we eat have been genetically modified by selection by man (and animals) through history.&quot;

I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS STATEMENT IS MADE ACCIDENTALLY.  THERE IS A QUANTUM DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SELECTIVE BREEDING AND INSERTING GENES INTO SPECIES THAT WOULD HAVE NEVER HAD THOSE GENES.  YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO EQUATE THE &#039;2 RECESSIVE BLUE EYED PARENTS WILL HAVE A BLUE EYED CHILD&#039; WITH PUTTING GENES IN CORN TO MAKE IT PRODUCE PESTICIDE (EMPHASIS ON &#039;CIDE&#039;) THUS MAKING IT POISONOUS OR PUTTING GLOW FISH GENES IN CATS TO MAKE THEM GLOW IN THE DARK.

I used capitals not to &#039;yell&#039; but to highlight more visually your statements and the comment about those statements.  Simply Google &#039;GMO Illness&#039; to find out what GM REALLY means to humans regarding food supply and safety as well as the increase in previously unheard of disease such as Morgellons.  Use the scientific method if you wish to speak as a scientist and look at the facts and INDEPENDENT studies that have been done.  Don&#039;t act as if dogma is science.  You sound like a Monsanto shill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, </p>
<p>Let me quote your decidedly NON scientific statements:</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, as a scientist I must do some defending here.</p>
<p>1) Nothing wrong with genetic modifications.&#8221;</p>
<p>WHY DO YOU SAY THIS? SUCH DOGMATIC AND UNSUBSTANTIATED STATEMENTS ARE WHOLLY UNSCIENTIFIC</p>
<p>&#8220;2) We already share many (like 97%) of our genes with pigs and mice.&#8221;</p>
<p>THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DORMANT GENES AND SPLICING ACTIVE GENES INTO ORGANISMS.  ALSO THIS ARTICLE IS ABOUT GM FOOD NOT HUMAN DNA WHICH IS ALREADY PROVEN TO BE DEADLY BOTH LONG AND SHORT TERM.</p>
<p>&#8220;3) Genetic engineering can be done safely and be well tested before being introduced to an environment.&#8221;</p>
<p>CAN AND WILL ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.  BP COULD HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE IN DRILLING FOR OIL BUT THEY WEREN&#8217;T.  TOYOTA COULD HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE IN ACCELERATOR DESIGN BUT THEY WEREN&#8217;T.  WHAT COULD BE IS NOT SCIENTIFIC JUSTIFICATION FOR ANYTHING.</p>
<p>&#8220;4) All plants and animals that we eat have been genetically modified by selection by man (and animals) through history.&#8221;</p>
<p>I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS STATEMENT IS MADE ACCIDENTALLY.  THERE IS A QUANTUM DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SELECTIVE BREEDING AND INSERTING GENES INTO SPECIES THAT WOULD HAVE NEVER HAD THOSE GENES.  YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO EQUATE THE &#8217;2 RECESSIVE BLUE EYED PARENTS WILL HAVE A BLUE EYED CHILD&#8217; WITH PUTTING GENES IN CORN TO MAKE IT PRODUCE PESTICIDE (EMPHASIS ON &#8216;CIDE&#8217;) THUS MAKING IT POISONOUS OR PUTTING GLOW FISH GENES IN CATS TO MAKE THEM GLOW IN THE DARK.</p>
<p>I used capitals not to &#8216;yell&#8217; but to highlight more visually your statements and the comment about those statements.  Simply Google &#8216;GMO Illness&#8217; to find out what GM REALLY means to humans regarding food supply and safety as well as the increase in previously unheard of disease such as Morgellons.  Use the scientific method if you wish to speak as a scientist and look at the facts and INDEPENDENT studies that have been done.  Don&#8217;t act as if dogma is science.  You sound like a Monsanto shill.</p>
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		<title>By: Juana Elena</title>
		<link>http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/will-genetic-modification-usher-in-a-new-age-of-prosperity-or-will-it-unleash-health-environmental-and-economic-nightmares-of-unprecedented-magnitude/comment-page-1#comment-5264</link>
		<dc:creator>Juana Elena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 07:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/show/single/en/3676-Corn-conundrums-in-Latin-America 

The Mexicans, who eat ten times as much corn as Americans, are definitely not keen on GM corn, but the mutant kernels are ripening</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/show/single/en/3676-Corn-conundrums-in-Latin-America" rel="nofollow">http://www.chinadialogue.net/article/show/single/en/3676-Corn-conundrums-in-Latin-America</a> </p>
<p>The Mexicans, who eat ten times as much corn as Americans, are definitely not keen on GM corn, but the mutant kernels are ripening</p>
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		<title>By: inverse_agonist</title>
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		<dc:creator>inverse_agonist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 01:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t the answer to any of our food supply problems, because people would just continue to breed until they outstripped the new, larger food supply.  The resulting crisis would be even worse.  Genetic modification isn&#039;t any sort of panacea, for sure.

It&#039;s just a technique, though.  It can be put to smart or stupid uses, like anything else.  Huge monocultures of genetically modified corn are a bad idea.  The way we&#039;ve applied patent law to give Monsanto so much power is a bad idea.  There are good ideas, though. 

Does anybody here know an insulin-dependent diabetic?  Insulin is a protein, and the reason we have enough of it to use as a medicine is that somebody took the gene for insulin, inserted it into a single-celled organism, cultured that organism in huge vats, and separated out the insulin.  The people who avoided blindness or amputation this way probably think it&#039;s a fantastic idea.  

I would be very interested to know if the symptoms complained about by the prisoners are seen in vegetarians that eat a lot of veggie burgers.  There&#039;s a lot of soy in &quot;meat&quot; from fast food restaurants, too.  The Roundup Ready soy we already eat does not produce pesticides, but the varieties in the rat feeding study produced either Roundup or another pesticide called Bt.  Putting the pesticides INSIDE the corn is maybe not so bright.  

On the other hand, dismissing the entire technology because its most prominent users are evil is like dismissing the entire profession of psychology because psychologists help the government design its torture programs.  

What do people think corn is in the first place?  It certainly isn&#039;t naturally occurring in the form we recognize.  Indians waited for useful genetic mutations to occur spontaneously.  Is a large ear of corn conceptually different than a large salmon?  

Runoff from animal waste is profoundly disruptive to aquatic life, because it results in algal blooms whose decay sucks all the oxygen out of the water.  Less phosphorous from pigs would be good.  It would be much simpler to just stop eating pigs or any factory-farmed animals, but I doubt I&#039;m going to convince anyone else to go vegan today.  

About the glowing cats...You do realize that people just got the Nobel Prize for the work that made the glowing cats possible, right?  Animal research works because we&#039;re evolutionarily related to everything else.  Some aspects of our physiology are more similar to particular organisms than others, so different species are used as models for different things.  We can attach GFP to particular proteins to find out how they&#039;re trafficked in a cell.  We can express GFP in particular cell types so that we can identify them under a microscope.  If the molecular biology of cats is useful for studying a particular problem, it&#039;s a useful proof-of-concept to show that we can adapt the technique to cats.  It&#039;s not &quot;torture&quot; for the cats.  They&#039;re ordinary cats, except parts of them glow green when you shine certain wavelengths of light on them.  They&#039;re born that way.  

Do people have any idea how much we have learned by being able to insert or delete genes in mice or fruit flies arbitrarily?  It&#039;s how we know what some genes do.  

It&#039;s not as black-and-white as evil Dr. Frankensteins in lab coats destroying the world for Monsanto.  Nobody worries about mutant mice or mutant fruit flies escaping into the wild, because you don&#039;t HAVE to deliberately grow vast fields of these things out in the open to get rich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t the answer to any of our food supply problems, because people would just continue to breed until they outstripped the new, larger food supply.  The resulting crisis would be even worse.  Genetic modification isn&#8217;t any sort of panacea, for sure.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just a technique, though.  It can be put to smart or stupid uses, like anything else.  Huge monocultures of genetically modified corn are a bad idea.  The way we&#8217;ve applied patent law to give Monsanto so much power is a bad idea.  There are good ideas, though. </p>
<p>Does anybody here know an insulin-dependent diabetic?  Insulin is a protein, and the reason we have enough of it to use as a medicine is that somebody took the gene for insulin, inserted it into a single-celled organism, cultured that organism in huge vats, and separated out the insulin.  The people who avoided blindness or amputation this way probably think it&#8217;s a fantastic idea.  </p>
<p>I would be very interested to know if the symptoms complained about by the prisoners are seen in vegetarians that eat a lot of veggie burgers.  There&#8217;s a lot of soy in &#8220;meat&#8221; from fast food restaurants, too.  The Roundup Ready soy we already eat does not produce pesticides, but the varieties in the rat feeding study produced either Roundup or another pesticide called Bt.  Putting the pesticides INSIDE the corn is maybe not so bright.  </p>
<p>On the other hand, dismissing the entire technology because its most prominent users are evil is like dismissing the entire profession of psychology because psychologists help the government design its torture programs.  </p>
<p>What do people think corn is in the first place?  It certainly isn&#8217;t naturally occurring in the form we recognize.  Indians waited for useful genetic mutations to occur spontaneously.  Is a large ear of corn conceptually different than a large salmon?  </p>
<p>Runoff from animal waste is profoundly disruptive to aquatic life, because it results in algal blooms whose decay sucks all the oxygen out of the water.  Less phosphorous from pigs would be good.  It would be much simpler to just stop eating pigs or any factory-farmed animals, but I doubt I&#8217;m going to convince anyone else to go vegan today.  </p>
<p>About the glowing cats&#8230;You do realize that people just got the Nobel Prize for the work that made the glowing cats possible, right?  Animal research works because we&#8217;re evolutionarily related to everything else.  Some aspects of our physiology are more similar to particular organisms than others, so different species are used as models for different things.  We can attach GFP to particular proteins to find out how they&#8217;re trafficked in a cell.  We can express GFP in particular cell types so that we can identify them under a microscope.  If the molecular biology of cats is useful for studying a particular problem, it&#8217;s a useful proof-of-concept to show that we can adapt the technique to cats.  It&#8217;s not &#8220;torture&#8221; for the cats.  They&#8217;re ordinary cats, except parts of them glow green when you shine certain wavelengths of light on them.  They&#8217;re born that way.  </p>
<p>Do people have any idea how much we have learned by being able to insert or delete genes in mice or fruit flies arbitrarily?  It&#8217;s how we know what some genes do.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not as black-and-white as evil Dr. Frankensteins in lab coats destroying the world for Monsanto.  Nobody worries about mutant mice or mutant fruit flies escaping into the wild, because you don&#8217;t HAVE to deliberately grow vast fields of these things out in the open to get rich.</p>
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		<title>By: Nice Picture</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nice Picture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 01:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How freaky is that genetically modified monster?  Great, now I will be having nightmares of that Al Gore look a like for a week, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How freaky is that genetically modified monster?  Great, now I will be having nightmares of that Al Gore look a like for a week, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Michaels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Michaels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The unfortunate assumption throughout this article is that the US Government is simply being reckless.  That is not the case.  This is being done deliberately with full knowledge of the outcomes.  The FDA KNOW that by the third generation, mammals fed GM soya become virtually completely infertile.  The plan is not to feed 9 billion people, its to kill of 5 billion.  Research Agenda 2000 and Bill Gates and the Rockefeller Foundation.  The info is out there if you choose to see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The unfortunate assumption throughout this article is that the US Government is simply being reckless.  That is not the case.  This is being done deliberately with full knowledge of the outcomes.  The FDA KNOW that by the third generation, mammals fed GM soya become virtually completely infertile.  The plan is not to feed 9 billion people, its to kill of 5 billion.  Research Agenda 2000 and Bill Gates and the Rockefeller Foundation.  The info is out there if you choose to see it.</p>
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