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Have We Reached A Turning Point For Stocks? Tuesday Was The Worst Day For The Stock Market In 6 Months

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New York Stock Exchange Trading Floor - Public DomainThe post-election stock market rally is officially over.  After hovering near record highs for the past couple of weeks, U.S. stocks had their worst day in six months on Tuesday.  For quite some time it has been clear that the momentum of the post-election rally had been exhausted, and a pullback of this nature was widely anticipated.  But even though stocks fell by more than 1 percent during a single trading session for the first time since last September, it is going to take a whole lot more than that to bring stock prices back into balance.  In fact, stocks are so overvalued at this point that it would take a total decline of about 40 to 50 percent before key stock valuation measures return to their long-term averages.

So we are still in a giant stock market bubble.  All Tuesday did was shave about one percent off of that bubble.

Let’s review some of the numbers from the carnage that we witnessed…

-The Dow was down 237.85 points (1.14 percent)

-The S&P 500 was down 1.2 percent on the day

-The Nasdaq was down 1.8 percent at the closing bell

-Financial stocks were down more than 2.5 percent

-Overall, it was the worst day for banking stocks since the Brexit vote

-Bank of America is now down more than 10 percent since Trump’s speech to Congress

-The Russell 2000 (small-cap stocks) dropped about 2 percent

Some prominent names on Wall Street were warning ahead of time that this was coming.  Marko Kolanovic was one of those voices…

Marko Kolanovic has done it again.

Last Thursday, one day ahead of the massive quad-witching where over $1.4 trillion in options expired in relatively tame fashion, the JPM quant warned of “near-term market weakness” and suggested “reducing US equity exposure. And, sure enough, JP Merlin’s Gandalf timed it impeccably yet again. To be sure, the jury is still out on what caused the selloff – lack of votes to repeal Obamacare, fears about Trump’s fiscal policy agenda, the market’s sudden  realization that it is at 30 CAPE, or just a technical revulsion – what matters is that once again, like clockwork, Kolanovic called a key inflection point just days in advance.

Of course the mainstream media is telling everyone not to worry.  They are insisting that this is just a temporary blip and that a market “correction” is highly unlikely.  The following comes from CNN

Few experts are predicting a correction — which is a 10% pullback from a market high. Even fewer see a bear market, a 20% drop or more, on the horizon.

Hopefully CNN is correct.

But it should be noted that experts such as Kolanovic are warning that more panic selling may be coming in the days ahead

Furthermore, the modest but rising uptick in realized volatility is starting to cause outflows from volatility-sensitive investors the JPM quant calculated and, as a result, the break in short-term momentum may cause modest equity selling by trend following strategies.

In other words, in the absence of a positive catalyst over the next few days – and with uncertainty ahead of the Thursday Trumpcare vote only growing by the hour we fail to see one emerging – the double whammy of gamma positioning and the CTA momentum “flip” will be the catalyst for the next, extremely overdue, move lower.

It is going to take quite a few more days like today before we can talk about the kind of “financial crisis” that I have been warning about for a long time, but we may have already reached a key turning point.

So much of the post-election stock market rally was based purely on hope, and meanwhile the underlying economic numbers have continued to deteriorate.  Corporate earnings are down, it is being projected that U.S. GDP growth will be about one percent during the first quarter, and used vehicle prices are dropping for the first time since the last recession…

In its March report, the National Association of Auto Dealers (NADA) reported an anomaly: dropping used vehicle prices in February, which occurred only for the second time in the past 20 years. It was a big one: Its Used Car Guide’s seasonally adjusted used vehicle price index plunged 3.8% from January, “by far the worst recorded for any month since November 2008 as the result of a recession-related 5.6% tumble.”

The index has now dropped eight months in a row and hit the lowest level since September 2010. The index is down 8% year over year, and down 13% from its peak in 2014.

When the Federal Reserve raised rates, that was very bad news for stocks, and if Donald Trump cannot get his Obamacare replacement through Congress that will be more bad news for stocks.

But even if there was no bad news, it is inevitable that stock prices would decline at some point anyway.

It is simply not rational to have price-earnings ratios up around 30.  The only other times when price-earnings ratios have become so bloated were right before the stock market crash of 1929, right before the stock market crash of 2000 and right before the stock market crash of 2008.

Whenever it ultimately happens, the truth is that stocks always eventually return to their historical averages.  And if a “black swan event” or two are thrown in, that could push stocks well below their historical averages.

Never before has there been this much debt in the world, and not even in 2008 were global financial markets so primed for a crash.

Many people get caught up in trying to predict what month or what day the markets will crash, and if you could predict that accurately you could make a lot of money.

But that is not the point.

What everyone should be able to agree on is that this temporary stock market bubble that has been fueled by reckless intervention from the Federal Reserve is not sustainable and that it is inevitable that stock prices will be a lot lower in the future than they are right now.

We should be thankful that this bubble has lasted much longer than it should have, because what is going to come after this bubble bursts is going to be absolutely horrible.

Markets tend to go down a lot faster than they go up, and when the coming crash finally occurs it is going to make 2008 look like a Sunday picnic.

So whatever you need to do financially, you should think about doing it soon, because the alarm bells on Wall Street are starting to ring.

 
  • Mike Smithy

    My sister in law is making $7,000 a week working part time. She stole a printing press and a barrel of ink from the BEP and makes counterfeit Federal Reserve Notes in her garage. Send a SASE and a genuine $50 FRN to P.O. Box 9235, Topeka, KS 66061 for the instructional video. Just kidding, she is actually making $7,000 a week as a hooker.

    • socalbeachdude

      What utter rubbish nonsense.

      • Cinderella Man

        That describes perfectly everything you write and post

        • socalbeachdude

          Obviously not.

      • Mark

        Shut up b#tch!!!

    • SnodtBlossom

      I see the 3 biggest DIRTBAGS of the board are at it early

      • Mike Smithy

        Why don’t you STFU and go back to sucking on turds in your FemiNazi safe space.

        • SnodtBlossom

          Dirtbag#2, I will never leave

          • Stuey

            What must one do to become a dirtbag around here? I strive to achieve that goal one day, but i insist on being Dirtbag XX when i reach that status.

          • SnodtBlossom

            You need to be licensed. Please send a check to my PO box

          • Mike Smithy

            Or put a d!ck in her pie hole.

          • LIZ THE SHIZ

            you meant your PO PO BOX

          • Mark

            Dirtbag 1 to infinity and beyond belongs to your diseased ridden snatch!!!!!!!

          • SnodtBlossom

            Mark.. did your wife finally manage to escape from you?

          • Mark

            You wish you could get a man to touch you B#tch!!!!

          • LIZ THE SHIZ

            don’t worry Mark, it’s too busy touching it’s self

          • Mike Smithy

            Since you insist on not leaving where you are not wanted, feel free to lite the fuse on your nastyas$ tampon.

          • SnodtBlossom

            You aren’t wanted either.. But I know you are having sex w/the 2 other Dirtketeers.

      • CASTIEL

        Next time that you use a dildo in that putrid big hole….replace it with a stick of TNT…..

    • JC Teecher

      My ex brother in law tried to make it as a big city pimp, but all he ended up doing was going in the hole.

      • Mike Smithy

        Good one.

      • Zlatko Milanovic

        Not a good one. Exactly what I was talking about. We all say mean things in the passion of the moment, or to make a point, but It doesn’t benefit our witness to make snarky, mean spirited comments and then claim to be a follower of Jesus.

      • none

        With the number of teenage girls, out selling themselves?
        It’s no wonder. Look at what Uber has done to the taxi industry.

    • olde reb

      what is her telephone number ?

  • Cinderella Man

    Oh my God the sky is falling!! The Dow dropped 200 points quick I better get some gas masks and dehydrated chili!! This rally was built on the premise that there would be health care reform and tax cuts. The GOP azzwipes own this loss. If they got their crap together and stopped squabbling over every detail this wouldn’t of happened. Its not the end of anything as much as you wish it would be. We’ve been down this road before and nothing happened. Now snodtbeachdude will hijack the thread with reguitated news articles we already read.

    • socalbeachdude

      STOCKS CRASH DOWN INTO THE RABBIT HOLE…

      US stocks fall hard as financials shed 2%

      http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/21/us-markets.html

      • Cinderella Man

        Right on cue the enlightened dense one appears! Too bad I already read that article 3 hours ago…breaking news from socalbeachidiot recycled news stories and clickbait. How does it feel to have everyone hate you? Oh yeah you don’t care. Ok round 300 let’s go! Got anymore advice for my business dude? Since you know absolutely everything about the cattle ranching business? Nothing is gonna happen. The Dow has had many hundred plus point drops in the past 5 years. Every time we’re told that this is the black swan Lehman moment….then phiiiiz nothing

        • SnodtBlossom

          Socal is the best poster on the board.

          • LIZ THE SHIZ

            Snodt is talking to itself but I’m sure Socal will answer back, when you have multiple personalities you’re never alone and always good for two up votes

          • Mark

            And you’re the best “WHORE” on this site!!!!!

      • Mark

        Sure would be nice if you would get into a crash. A car crash!!!

    • SnodtBlossom

      GET A JOB DIRTBAG

  • Michael Dubin

    So what? The plunge protection team will pump it back up like they always do.

    • socalbeachdude

      Laughably false, and there is no such thing as the “Plunge Protection Team” and hasn’t been since that was abolished by Bill Clinton in 1993.

      Remember One Thing – Karl Denninger

      The Fed has never, in its history, managed to actually prevent a market collapse.

      It did not do so in 1929.

      It did not do so in 1987, despite it being evident that the market was going to blow up.

      It did not do so in 2000, despite it being evident that the market was grossly overheated.

      It did not do so in 2008, despite having more than a year worth of warning (the two Bear Stearns hedge funds) and in fact Bernanke testified under oath that “subprime was contained.”

      It will not do so this time either.

      https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=230456

      • Cinderella Man

        Rrreeeetard…muh nabe is beachdude I upvote myself because I’m special….read my articles duuuur I wish I had a blog laughably true ha!

      • Mark

        I wipe my a$$ with that website!!!

      • Michael Dubin

        Hmmm…after Brexit, the dow plunged 650 points, and after Trump’s victory, it plunged 1000 points, but it recovered the losses in a few days. But i’m sue it’s organic growth. Nothing to see here, move on.

        • socalbeachdude

          Now the Dow is headed for about 14,000 points in plunges dead ahead!

      • Michael Dubin

        Also, the Fed operates in secret, so Denninger cannot say what they did or didn’t do. They could have decided to let stocks collapse in 29, 87, and 2000.

  • socalbeachdude

    GDPNow Q1 forecast plunges to 1.3% with vehicle sales, factory orders reports

    https://mishtalk.com/2017/03/07/gdpnow-1st-quarter-forecast-plunges/

    • Mark

      I’m socalbeachdude and I’m a d#ck blower!!!

      • LIZ THE SHIZ

        Josh Flagg agrees!!

    • Mark

      I hope a powerful natural disaster destroys Beverly Hills California!!!!!!!

      • socalbeachdude

        Why?

  • socalbeachdude

    Markets fret as Trump agenda shows signs of cracks

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-stocks-analysis-idUSKBN16S2LR

    • Mark

      F#ck Beverly Hills california

  • socalbeachdude
    • Mark

      Blah Blah Blah

    • Cinderella Man

      No one cares you Can’t Understand Normal Thinking

    • Zenithon

      You have to laugh a little. Socal up votes every one of his own comments. He is clearly missing his meds.

  • socalbeachdude
    • Mark

      Kiss my a$$

  • socalbeachdude
    • Mark

      Go “F” yourself!!!

    • Cinderella Man

      Beachude the D is missing because it’s already in his mouth

  • socalbeachdude

    This is the most overvalued stock market on record — even worse than 1929

    This is the most dangerous and overvalued stock market on record — worse than 2007, worse than 2000, even worse than 1929.

    Or so warns Wall Street soothsayer John Hussman in his scariest jeremiad yet.

    “Presently, we observe the broadest market valuation extreme in history,” writes the chairman of the cautious Hussman Funds investment group, “with the steepest median valuations on record, and the most reliable capitalization-weighted measures within a few percent of their 2000 peaks.”

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-is-the-most-overvalued-stock-market-on-record-even-worse-than-1929-2017-03-13?mod=MW_story_top_stories

    • Wizard of Aus

      G’day Chas!

      • LIZ THE SHIZ

        the Dingos ate his baby , throw another troll on the Barbie

    • Cinderella Man

      Yep and nothing is gonna happen…yawn

    • Mark

      Go F#ck yourself!!!

  • aldownunder

    I’m thinking that you should think of the coming ‘mini-correction’ as a major buying opportunity. Look to buy your favorite stocks,then I’m thinking new all time highs later in the year will be the time to dump and run before TSHTF

  • VegasBob

    With CAPE at 30, rising inflation, and rising interest rates, it is absurd to think stocks have much additional upside potential.

    For those invested in the markets, the only way to lock in gains is to cash out.

    When enough investors figure it’s time to cash out, we could very well see losses exceeding Michael’s 40-50% target.

    • socalbeachdude

      Absolutely correct, and earnings are falling across the board for stocks and have been STAGNANT with no growth at all for the past 3+ years.

      • Spatial Memory

        Another LUDICROUSLY INACCURATE comment

        • socalbeachdude

          Nope, but YOURS sure is!!!

    • Spatial Memory

      ROFL

  • Cinderella Man

    What irks me is there are some great posts on here it’s just too bad socalbeachtwaat takes over and we have to scroll thru his bullschitt to read anything. So I will relentlessly troll you and your transvestite alter ego snodt the twaat no rest no quarter b#tches

    • Guest

      You need to flag his comments.

    • Hope

      If you’re gonna talk to us,
      at least turn around and face us.

    • SnodtBlossom

      You’ll just have to put up with it DIRRRRRTBAGGGGG

      • Mark

        Go take a shower you pig I can smell you through my computer screen!!!!!!

  • Priszilla

    6 months? It’s called profit taking. All those small investors who have been lured in need to have their money taken from.

    • socalbeachdude

      Do you not understand the concept of PRICE EARNINGS MULTIPLES and the fact that most stocks are trading at 24 or high PE multiples on the indices in the US? Many other stocks have no earnings in the US (but rather losses) so don’t even have PE multiples.

      Never before in the history of the stock markets in the US have stock valuations been so high. After markets crash (as they have many times) the average PE multiple typically returns to around 6 which is a valuation of 6 times current annual earnings. The Dow, S&P 500, and NASDAQ will all likely fall about 80% just to get back to normal and reasonable valuation floors.

      • Spatial Memory

        Most understand that Price/Earnings ratio is trailing data or BACKWARD looking data AND that capital markets are FORWARD looking price discovery mechanisms. CLASSIC rookie misconceptions and obvious in your continuous whipsawed predictions. ROFL

        • socalbeachdude

          Are you seriously SO STUPID AND SO CLUELESS that you don’t comprehend that EARNINGS ARE PLUNGING and that the current earnings are far higher than they will be in the near future? Really? Seriously? How did you ever get to be so incredibly brainless?

          • Spatial Memory

            Markets have CLEARLY PROVEN beyond any doubt whatsoever how CLUELESS your LUDICROUS predictions have been for MULTIPLE CONSECUTIVE YEARS.

            While SO MANY HAVE BENEFITED tremendously during the HISTORIC ECONOMIC EXPANSION and SKYROCKETING STOCKS and BONDS you have CONTINUOUSLY OBSESSIVELY foisted ABSURD and LUDICROUSLY INACCURATE GUESSWORK.

            MARKETS HAVE CLEARLY REJECTED your ANTICS as have MANY on multiple sites and blogs.

            Why continue posting such EXTRANEOUS BANTER which were CLEARLY PROVEN HARMFUL?

            SHOCKING that your antics are permitted EVEN AFTER READING THE VOLUMINOUS AMOUNTS of comments from SO MANY literally begging those running the blog to ADDRESS THE ISSUE!!!

          • socalbeachdude

            Laughably false and utterly clueless.

          • NorthernBud

            Why don’t you start your own blog. That way you can have people who actually want to listen to your crap.

      • Priszilla

        So? When the price is high you sell your stocks to those who buy while the stocks are rising. When they don’t find a buyer the price falls and they lost the money (to you) they paid for the stock.
        Those who sell earlier lose less than those who sell later.
        PE = 1 / interest rate.
        5% interest equals PE of 20.
        With 0.05% interest on savings you can still make money on dividends from stocks with a PE up to 2000,unless the price for the stock falls. Then see above.

        I was buying long johns for £10, and saved me heating costs of £5/month.
        What’s the ROI?

        • socalbeachdude

          You just don’t get it all, do you?

      • Priszilla

        Price = Earnings x PER.
        If you park $100 on stocks that give you $5 on earnings, then the PER is $100/$5= 20.
        http://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/price-earningsratio.asp
        With interest rates on savings of 0.05% you get $0.05 on £100 parked. Making the PER = 2000.
        Lowering interest rates shall motivate to buy stocks.
        Those who have the stocks, want to have money. With money they can buy gold and real estate. So you need to motivate other people to buy your stocks.
        You can always print more money or issue more shares. But it’s quite expensive to get more land.

  • socalbeachdude

    A popular Wall Street stock-market ‘black swans’ gauge is at a record level

    A popular options-market gauge of so-called black swan, or difficult to predict, events is drawing the attention of some bears on Wall Street as it trades at record levels.

    The CBOE Skew Index SKEW, -0.91% or simply Skew, which measures the relative cost of purchasing out-of-the money put options on the S&P 500 index SPX, -0.20% finished at a record of 153.34 on March 17, and maintained that level on Monday. Put options confer the right, but not necessarily an obligation, to sell an asset at a specific price and time, while calls give the owner the right to buy an underlying asset.

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/a-popular-wall-street-stock-market-black-swans-gauge-is-at-a-record-level-2017-03-20

    • CASTIEL

      You again!!!!! WTF is wrong with you???? Are you a fugitive of a mental institution?

      • SnodtBlossom

        Você está cansado, velho, plano e sem proveito. Você está sujo, calvo, com raiva e profano. Você é preguiçoso e repugnante. Você é um tolo, um homem ignorante. Monkeys olhar para baixo em você. Mesmo ovelhas fazer sexo com você. Você é totalmente patético, carente de atenção e perdido em um país que esqueceu a realidade.

        E o que significa que você espera que seus loucura-auto-afirmações a sua opinião ignorante, inexperiente com a gente? Que imaginação segurar que você acha que o seu minúsculo gefistenes birra teria mais peso do que um rato do deserto leprosa que raiva em um círculo virou-se e esperou que a mordida da cobra?

        Você é um desperdício de carne. Você não tem ritmo. Você é ridículo e repugnante. Você é o equivalente moral de uma sanguessuga. Você é um vazio de estar, um vazio sem sentido. Você está louco e senil, você é uma doença, você infantil, com uma só mão, de boca aberta, babando.

        • CASTIEL

          Vai para a grande puta que te pariu sua cabra do caralho!!!!!!! Dont have you truck drivers to attend??? Thats the way you treat your clients?

      • Zlatko Milanovic

        Just ignore him. Don’t respond, he lives for it.

  • socalbeachdude

    Junk Bonds may slam into $1 trillion wall as maturities hit record

    A record $1 trillion of junk debt will mature by 2021, leaving high-risk companies to hunt for new cash at a time when markets are likely to be less welcoming, according to Moody’s Investors Service.

    Speculative-grade companies have $1.06 trillion of debt maturing between 2017 and 2021, with the bulk of it, $933 billion, coming due after 2019, Moody’s said Wednesday in a report. New issuance is likely to rise in the second half of this year to start addressing those maturities, analysts led by Tiina Siilaberg wrote.

    Debt markets aren’t prepared to absorb the maturities, according to Moody’s. Demand for collateralized loan obligations, which bundle leveraged corporate loans into securities, has fallen from its 2014 peak, and credit ratings for both bank loans and high-yield bonds have deteriorated, according to the report.

    “If liquidity dries up, the default rate will be significantly higher than the last time around,” Siilaberg said in an interview. “Companies have more debt to deal with, and we’ve seen a lot of smaller companies take on substantial amounts of debt in a low-rate environment.”

    http://www.bloombergquint.com/markets/2017/02/08/junk-may-slam-into-1-trillion-wall-as-maturities-go-to-record

  • socalbeachdude
  • socalbeachdude

    NKOREA ‘FIRES MISSILES AT JAPAN’ FAIL… EXPLODED…
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/north-korea-fires-several-missiles-10072049

    KYODO UPDATE
    http://english.kyodonews.jp/

    NIKKEI DOWN 2.05%…
    http://www.Indexq.org

  • socalbeachdude
  • socalbeachdude
    • FirstGarden

      Wow, I just read that article. After 28 years in retail, I am very sensitive to the topic. Funny, we just a refrigerator from Sears yesterday.

  • socalbeachdude
    • LIZ THE SHIZ

      that was about the healthcare bill Mr. Cut / Copy / Paste , at least get your headlines correct !!

      • SnodtBlossom

        Du bist müde, abgestanden, flach und unrentabel. Du bist schmutzig, kahl, böse und profan. Du bist faul und ekelhaft. Du bist ein Narr, ein Unwissender. Affen schauen auf dich herab. Sogar Schafe haben keinen Sex mit dir. Du bist uneingeschränkt pathetisch, verhungert für Aufmerksamkeit und verloren in einem Land, das die Wirklichkeit vergaß.

        Und welche Bedeutung erwarten Sie, dass Ihre Wahnsinns-Selbst-Aussagen Ihre unwissenden, unerfahrenen Meinung mit uns haben? Welche Phantasie halten Sie, dass Sie glauben würden, dass Ihr winzig gefistenes Wutanfall mehr Gewicht haben würde als das einer aussätzigen Wüstenratte, die sich in einem Kreis wütend drehte und auf den Biss der Schlange wartete?

        Du bist eine Verschwendung von Fleisch. Sie haben keinen Rhythmus. Du bist lächerlich und widerlich. Du bist das moralische Äquivalent eines Blutegels. Du bist eine lebendige Leere, eine sinnlose Leere. Du bist sauer und senil Du bist eine Krankheit, Sie kindisch, einhändig, schlaff-jawed, sabbern, meatslapper.

        • Zlatko Milanovic

          Impressive language skills Snodt!

          • LIZ THE SHIZ

            it’s babel fish and Prozac

          • Zlatko Milanovic

            Liz, that made me laugh…

          • SnodtBlossom

            ty

        • Zlatko Milanovic

          Bilo srpski vještine jezik? Ili si ti samo pomoću Google prevoditelja?

          • JC Teecher

            Real bright, and just shows that you don’t practice what you preach.

          • Zlatko Milanovic

            You don’t even know what it says JC!

        • Mike Smithy

          is there any doubt that you are a FEMINAZI. If Hitler, Soros and you were locked in a room and I had a gun with only two (2) bullets, I would shoot you twice.

  • Cal

    The FED turned on the switch eight years ago and the FED just pulled the plug. Call on the name of the Lord and you shall be saved.

  • JC Teecher

    Move along folks, nothing to see here…in relation to the bloated/over valued, stock market, and more specifically the DOW.

    Banking stocks take a hit all the time, and good for them. The banking con game is partially to blame for the inflated numbers, and when the fed R puts out an increase in the rates, then the markets react and the big market players react as well. That is how they make $$ off the stock market…….”volatility”…up and down. it is part of the game.

    The average investor is in because of pension plans, and really have not much control over which stocks are bought and sold on a regular basis by their pension fund manager. The other group has banks and small fund managers playing their funds, and as long as they are making $$, they just go along with whatever the broker/fund manager says.

    In late 2008, early 2009 a close relative of mine had been retired for about 10 years, and still heavily invested. Tyson stock dropped to below $5.00 a share, and as a former stock market investor and player, I saw the writing on the wall. Tyson had a history of staying right around the 20 to 25 dollar per share mark, and I saw a chance to at least triple and possibly quadruple on a purchase of this stock.

    Knowing my relative’s portfolio, I suggested a sell off of half of his portfolio, which would allow about $100,000.00 in funds to purchase Tyson. Of course his broker talked him out of it, and in the process, caused him to lose an opportunity to make a million dollars off of the transaction over less than an 8 year period.

    Yes that is right; in September 2016 the stock hit an all time high of $76.76 per share. Even if the relative had missed the high, and sold at $75.00, and missed the low in 2008, and bought at $7.00, their profits after taxes and broker fees, would have been near a million dollars.

    Now that does not happen everyday, but the point is, markets drop and rise and that is where the smart investors make huge profits.

    Many of the big players have been watching and waiting for just such an opportunity to sell yesterday, today, and tomorrow; take their profits, and be ready to buy into the next “big deal”. Be it stocks, bonds, or commodities. The “dead in the water” odramacare lite plan, is just another excuse to do what the big stock market movers and shakers do.

    when the collapse of the market comes, it ain’t gonna be just a couple percentage points here and there over a week or so, it will be 5 to 10 points drop, “everyday”, for a week or so, and it ain’t coming back for sometime, or possibly never.

  • Zlatko Milanovic

    All thanks to the Insane Clown President…and his stupid, ignorant, ill-informed, brainwashed, poorly educated voters.

    • LIZ THE SHIZ

      were you in Serbia during the 1990’s ? Do you have friends on trial in the Hague?

      • Zlatko Milanovic

        No. How about you?

    • HadItWithThem

      Yeah, that’s how it happened.. You are obviously another brain-dead liberal M0R0N. So much for your “education”..

      • Zlatko Milanovic

        So much for your ignorance. Enjoy the collapse, fool.

      • Zlatko Milanovic

        So much for your ignorance. Enjoy the collapse, fool.

    • JC Teecher

      Thanks to libtards and establishment politicians, and….the ill-informed, brainwashed, poorly educated voters as well. Good people but still not clicking on all cylinders.
      Good people that continue to put their faith in ignorant preacher/teachers that lead them into a false sense of security (blanket) of the pre-trib, any-moment, fly away, crapture doctrine.
      Good people that still believe it is OK to kill innocents in the womb.
      Good people that believe that God is OK with queers marrying and doing each others bung-a-low.
      Sad people. Sadly mistaken people.

      • Zlatko Milanovic

        Well, I don’t have it in my heart to argue with you anymore JC. I know you think you’re right, and I share some of your concerns, but we are in dangerous territory here. I still find it amusing that you proclaim yourself a follower of Christ, and then turn around and call people “libtards”. Can you see the irony and hypocrisy in that? Do you think Jesus would call people liberal retards? I don’t.

        • According to all evidence, Jesus WAS a liberal.

          That’s why I stick to the Old Testament, or as I call it — the Only Testament.

          addictinginfo. org/2013/12/09/jesus-christ-liberal/

          reverbpress. com/discovery/spiritual/20-jesus-quotes-christian-right-wingers-will-hate/

          • Mr.Cipher

            I commend you for having your own picture for your avatar. Most people don’t have the guts.
            Looks like you could lose some weight.

          • Zlatko Milanovic

            Looks like you could find some manners.

          • Mr.Cipher

            kuso kurae!

          • Realist

            Looks like you could find a brain, scarecrow.

          • Oh, silly you — I used to have my own photo as my avatar, but too many men started asking me out.

            The photo, if you can suppress yourgag mechanism long enough to look at it more closely, has “Charla McComic” in red across her chins. She’s one of you.

          • Realist

            Dead wrong you are.
            I’m embarrassed for you.
            Try to at least pretend you’re intelligent.

          • I see no refutations from you, none. Feel embarrassed for yourself, as that is where all of the shame belongs.

          • socalbeachdude

            Do you not have anything of any actual substance to say? Why all of the irrelevant and stupid personal attacks on other members here?

        • JC Teecher

          I don’t really care what you think.
          I am who i am and make no apologies to men that follow a liberal agenda, and then try to tell someone what a Christian should or should not be.

          Truth shall set you free, or disregard of it will keep you in bondage.
          You have plenty of company as is evident by your up votes when you cast stones of judgment.

          That is proof enough of who is in your camp. All you radicals can have a good trip.

          • Mike Smithy

            Bingo.

        • JC Teecher

          Sorry for the confusion by mis-spelling liberal, I really meant “libturds”!

          Got anymore WWJD revelations?

          • Zlatko Milanovic

            ..”.But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.”
            Matthew 12:36 There you go. Keep running that mouth…

          • Zlatko Milanovic

            You’re mocking Christ? That’s a demon inside of you speaking…

          • JC Teecher

            Oh yea, and i would be the fool here if I listened to the likes of you, the epitome of a barking clown, that has no conception of what a demon or a Christian is. You have made your way into block, and as a Christian I pray for the rain of truth to come upon your head as the coals of fire.
            Got asbestos headgear? lol!

          • Zlatko Milanovic

            lol!

      • Gay Veteran

        STILL obsessed with Teh Gays

    • jox

      Wich part is thanks to the President, the records on SP500 or the future and previsible crash? The stupid, ignorant, ill-informed, brainwashed and poorly educated votes of Hillary Clinton are soooo boring.

  • Spatial Memory

    TMV junk?
    TMV generational opportunity?
    🙂

  • Spatial Memory

    All about end of first qtr funds reports Window Dressing vs indicies / benchmarks.

  • Marc

    These guys are getting excited folks. We are actually seeing some downward movement, YEEHAA. From Nov 4 – Mar 1, the DJIA went up >18% but in the last 3 weeks went down >2% – lets PANIC!!!! Love this quote “Many people get caught up in trying to predict what month or what day the markets will crash”…yah – like this site has done on a number of occasions. Cannot mention his name otherwise you get censored – people can say pretty much what they like on this site – just don’t mention…you know who.

  • df NJ

    Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of Heaven. (Matthew 5:3)
    Blessed are those who mourn: for they will be comforted. (5:4)
    Blessed are the meek: for they will inherit the earth. (5:5)
    Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness: for they will be filled. (5:6)
    Blessed are the merciful: for they will be shown mercy. (5:7)
    Blessed are the pure in heart: for they will see God. (5:8)
    Blessed are the peacemakers: for they will be called children of God. (5:9)
    Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. (5:10)
    Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you. 5:11-12
    Blessed are those who do not panic with market swings, for theirs is the greatest monetary rewards

    • GoldenGirl

      Your best comment EVER!

    • SnodtBlossom

      Oh Shut UP

      • Mark

        Go F#ck yourself atheist “WHORE”!!!

    • jox

      So, your strategy for the next stock market crash is to pray. Great.

  • Hope

    TO:

    LIZ THE SHILL
    Cinderella Man (Man?)
    (Dark) Mark
    CASTIEL C A S T R A T O R
    Space Head – Spatial Memory..

    And any other small minds I missed:

    If your frail egos can’t handle SocialBeachDudes’s posts, then don’t read them.
    That’s just common sense 101.

    If they are feeding his ego, that’s HIS problem.
    It doesn’t have to be YOUR problem.

    But to carry on like you do, flinging slime around all day,
    is only indicative of your wimpy inner state…
    projecting itself to be tough.

    Wimp! Wimp! Wuss! Wuss!
    All day long.

    Control & manipulation stems from insecurity.
    You’re acting like pathetic crybabies
    who desperately need a diaper change.
    Is that where all this c r a p is coming from??
    You just reach down, pull some out and fling it?

    What you are doing is FAR WORSE than any perceived offence from SocialBeachDude.

    I don’t know him personally.
    And at first, I, myself, did find his many posts overwhelming,
    and a bit irritating.
    But then I just adjusted.. got used to it.. ya know,
    like any normal person would do?

    His posts provide a lot of good information.
    And I’d much rather read those than your cruel, ugly posts.

    A good blog is INFORMATIONAL,
    not so downright PERSONAL,
    as you are making it.

    Many can benefit from Beach’s informative posts.
    NO ONE benefits from your hateful, low-crawling posts.

    So grow up. Get over it!!

    • Spatial Memory

      Your psychological profiling attempts are even more pathetic than his market predictions. ROFL

      • Hope

        Jmho?

        Not so humble afterall.

        • Spatial Memory

          hopeless 🙂

          • Hope

            No, Spatial is not hopeless.
            Neither are you.

            I believe in miracles.

      • Hope

        Spatial don’t lose this number
        You don’t want to call nobody else
        Send it off in a letter to yourself..

        National Suicide Prevention Lifeline
        Call 1-800-273-8255

    • Mark

      That son of a b#tch wants to constantly respond to my comments when I don’t give a f#ck about his opinions and harass me I will make his life on this site miserable so go F#ck yourself Hope!!!!!!!!

      • Hope

        Dark Mark – I hate to be the one to break it to you, but..

        If you could suddenly see yourself, it would be an extremely painful experience for you.

        When that moment arrives, (if it does), try not to panic. Call 911, or let us know, and we’ll call 911 for you.

        Also, some of the folks around here are bound to have some tranquilizers. It’s gonna be really rough for a while. You will need them. I’m sure they’ll have sympathy and give you some.

        Remember, help is just a phone call away.

        • Mark

          Hahahah!!! I’m having the time of my life!!! You and SoCaljackass can go get help!!!!

          • Hope

            HAhahah???

            When a wise man has a controversy with a foolish man,
            The foolish man either rages or laughs, and there is no rest.
            – Proverbs 29:9

            I may be no wise man, but you are definitely pushing hard to be the other.

          • Mark

            Don’t preech to me you want to preech to someone go preech to snodtslut and see how well it’s works for you!!!

          • Hope

            “The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction.”
            – Proverbs 1:7

          • CASTIEL

            Dont even talk about God you miserable idiot to defend stupidity….I hope you burn in hell you stupid B#tch!!!!

          • Hope

            You are a deep, caring soul,
            with a great capacity for love.
            I wish more people were like you.

    • CASTIEL

      Go f#ck yourself b#tch…….just normals retards like you….. like the crap of that monkey……if he can post ….I CAN POST!!!!……..GET OVER IT!!!!!! Maybe you need a diaper, caused by the 2 thousands d#cks that entered in your butt….and now you cant hold the crap….

      • Hope

        Is that all you got?

        • CASTIEL

          ,,,,,a idiot retires the opurtunity of opinions of other persons just to feed his weak ego……and you defend him because you are just a lost soul like him….I dont adapt to supidity….i batlle against that and people like you….You are just a stupid sheep…..

          • Hope

            Sheep-cockroach-monkey.
            Wow, 3 animals in one.

            Make up your mind, will you?
            According to LIZ THE SHIZ,
            I’m already suffering from “multiple personality disorder.”

    • LIZ THE SHIZ

      try Scientology since Psychiatry isn’t working for you , maybe you can scout out new boyfriends for Tom Cruise and John Travolta

      • Hope

        I’m not fond of e-meters, electrodes, primal screams and removal of “implants” hatched up by a SCI-FI huckster.

        I thought you might have a more thoughtful answer.

        • LIZ THE SHIZ

          Hope, you are the 4th manifestation of a m delusional multiple personality syndrome with narcessitic and neurotic tendencies and chronic insecurity that has appeared on this site and that’s as thoughtful as I get without charging you $150.00 per a 50 minute session.

          • Hope

            What a lot of psychobabble.
            Anyone can quote the jargon.

            Do you have anything original?

          • socalbeachdude

            Huh?

    • He is spamming this site, which is akin to online graffiti or tagging. It is also in violation to the rules he agreed to when he signed up for Disqus. (It is also against the terms of this site).

      Bad behavior should not be ignored, it should be addressed and fixed. It is not a matter of frail egos; I cannot even fathom why you equate “respect for rules” with “frail egos“.

      But then again, you created a sock-puppet to share your lowly opinion, so even you knew it wasn’t worth ruining your real name by affiliating yourself with that opinion.

      • socalbeachdude

        What utterly and TOTALLY FALSE and laughably bogus assertions. There is nothing in any of my comments that is even slightly a violation of any of the rules of Disqus, whereas your rude and bogus ad hominem attacks most certainly are a CLEAR VIOLATION.

  • Mark

    OH NO!!!! SoCalSOBdude had my comments deleted whatever shall I do???? Ahahahahahaha!!! Get your head out of Janet Yellins batcave and shut the hell up socalSOBdude!!!!

    • CASTIEL

      Repeat those comments again 🙂 until he gets tired

    • SnodtBlossom

      I flagged you… too bad.

      • Mark

        Be my guest!!! I’ll never be silenced!!!

  • Globalization is Not Globalism

    Even if a market correction does occur and results in a collapse, there exist many methods to profit from a falling market. Obviously, the most well known means of profit is selling a stock short.

    Other instruments are readily available OTC and through exchanges. These include options (everyone has heard of this instrument), forwards (buying or selling at an agreed upon price in the future), futures (everyone should know what these are) pertaining to commodities, currencies, interest rates; swaps (too complicated for people on this website), and other exotic derivatives.

    • socalbeachdude

      Please explain how anyone profiting from a collapsing market advances the public interest or interest of America at all. Yes, you can do that by shorting stocks, buying puts, buying the VIX, and a host of other methods such as ultra-short ETFs, but that is of no interest to the country and only makes crashes much worse.

  • socalbeachdude

    Why are you putting up such OUTRIGHT LIES AND MISREPRESENTATIONS? It is obviously YOU who is way out of line with Disqus policies. Go read them and attempt to comprehend them.

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