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The Tens Of Millions Of Forgotten Americans That The U.S. Economy Has Left Behind

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The evidence that the middle class in America is dying continues to mount.  As you will see below, nearly half the country would be unable “to cover an unexpected $400 expense”, and about two-thirds of the population lives paycheck to paycheck at least part of the time.  Of course the economy has not been doing that well overall in recent years.  Barack Obama was the only president in all of U.S. history not to have a single year when the economy grew by at least 3 percent, and U.S. GDP growth during the first quarter of 2017 was an anemic 0.7 percent.  During the Obama era, it is true that wealthy enclaves in New York, northern California and Washington D.C. did thrive, but meanwhile most of the rest of the country has been left behind.

Today, there are approximately 205 million working age Americans, and close to half of them have no financial cushion whatsoever.  In fact, a new survey conducted by the Federal Reserve has found that 44 percent of Americans do not even have enough money “to cover an unexpected $400 expense”

Nearly eight years into an economic recovery, nearly half of Americans didn’t have enough cash available to cover a $400 emergency. Specifically, the survey found that, in line with what the Fed had disclosed in previous years, 44% of respondents said they wouldn’t be able to cover an unexpected $400 expense like a car repair or medical bill, or would have to borrow money or sell something to meet it.

Not only that, the same survey discovered that 23 percent of U.S. adults will not be able to pay their bills this month

Just as concerning were other findings from the study: just under one-fourth of adults, or 23%, are not able to pay all of their current month’s bills in full while 25% reported skipping medical treatments due to cost in the prior year. Additionally, 28% of adults who haven’t retired yet reported to being grossly unprepared, indicating they had no retirement savings or pension whatsoever.

But just because you can pay your bills does not mean that you are doing well.  Tens of millions of Americans barely scrape by from paycheck to paycheck each and every month.

In fact, a survey by CareerBuilder discovered that 75 percent of all Americans live paycheck to paycheck at least some of the time…

Three-quarters of Americans (75 percent) are living paycheck-to-paycheck to make ends meet, according to a survey from CareerBuilder. Thirty-eight percent of employees said they sometimes live paycheck-to-paycheck, 15 percent said they usually do and 23 percent said they always do. While making ends meet is a struggle for many post-recession, those with minimum wage jobs continue to be hit the hardest. Of workers who currently have a minimum wage job or have held one in the past, 66 percent said they couldn’t make ends meet and 50 percent said they had to work more than one job to make it work.

So please don’t be fooled into thinking that the U.S. economy is doing well because the stock market has been hitting new record highs.

The stock market was soaring just before the financial crisis of 2008 too, and we remember how that turned out.

The truth is that the long-term trends that have been eating away at the foundations of the U.S. economy continue to accelerate, and the real economy is in substantially worse shape this year than it was last year.

Just about everywhere you look, businesses are struggling and stores are shutting down.  Yes, there are a few wealthy enclaves where everything seems wonderful for the moment, but for most of the country it seems like the last recession never ended.

In a desperate attempt to stay afloat, a lot of families have been turning to debt to make ends meet.  U.S. household debt has just hit a brand new all-time record high of 12.7 trillion dollars, but we are starting to see an alarming rise in auto loan defaults and consumer bankruptcies.  This is precisely what we would expect to see if the U.S. economy was moving into another major recession.

In fact, we are seeing all sorts of signs that point to a major economic slowdown right now.  Just check out the following from Wolf Richter’s latest article

Over the past five decades, each time commercial and industrial loan balances at US banks shrank or stalled as companies cut back or as banks tightened their lending standards in reaction to the economy they found themselves in, a recession was either already in progress or would start soon. There has been no exception since the 1960s. Last time this happened was during the Financial Crisis.

Now it’s happening again – with a 1990/91 recession twist.

Commercial and industrial loans outstanding fell to $2.095 trillion on May 10, according to the Fed’s Board of Governors weekly report on Friday. That’s down 4.5% from the peak on November 16, 2016. It’s below the level of outstanding C&I loans on October 19. And it marks the 30th week in a row of no growth in C&I loans.

Perhaps we will be very fortunate and break this pattern that has held up all the way back to the 1960s.

But I wouldn’t count on it.  Here is what Zero Hedge has to say about this alarming contraction in commercial and industrial loans…

Here’s the bottom line: unless there is a sharp rebound in loan growth in the next 3-6 months – whether due to greater demand or easier supply – this most accurate of leading economic indicators guarantees that a recession is now inevitable.

We are way overdue for a recession, the hard economic numbers are screaming that one is coming, and the financial markets are absolutely primed for a major crash.

As Americans, we tend to have such short memories.  Every time a new financial bubble starts forming, a lot of people out there start behaving as if it can last indefinitely.

But of course no financial bubble is going to last forever.  They all burst eventually, and now the biggest one in U.S. history is about to end in spectacular fashion.

Trump will get a lot of the blame since he is the current occupant of the White House, but the truth is that the conditions for the next crisis have been building up for many years, and the horrors that the U.S. economy is heading for were entirely predictable.

 
  • aldownunder

    The coming market collapse is going to rival the Great Depression in its intensity.
    The reason for this prediction is because hardly anyone is expecting it.

    • socalbeachdude

      The so-called “Great Depression was actually just a VERY MINOR AND SHORT-LIVED BLIP.

      The Great Depression itself was really nothing more than two separate periods of recession the first of which started in August 1929 two months before the stock market crash of 1929 and which lasted only until March 1933. Then there was a recovery which lasted 4 full years with positive growth in GDP until May 1937 when the economy dipped into another very short recession which only lasted until June 1938.

      http://ingrimayne.com/econ/EconomicCatastrophe/GreatDepression.html

      This time around the Grand Global Depression is likely to last considerably longer and actually started in August 2007 and will be with us last least out through the end of 2032. The affects of the GGD are being masked by huge government deficits without which GDP would be decisively negative and by such programs as food stamps which are the modern equivalent of soup kitchens for nearly 50 million Americans.

      The massive slowdown in the US economy began in 1928 as the huge credit bubble blown during the 1920s began to burst. The crash in the real estate markets began in 1926 in Florida and was epic and rolled through most of the country up in to the 1930s. The stock market crash of 1929 was just one of the many events during that time period from 1926 through 1938 caused by the bursting of the 1920s massive credit bubble.

      Herbert Hoover had nothing whatsoever to do with the cause of the so-called Great Depression. The cause was the COLLAPSE OF AN IMMENSE CREDIT AND SPECULATIVE BUBBLE from the 1920s on Wall Street, but yet America blamed Hoover and elected FDR, who lives in infamy as the single worst and most destructive President ever in the history of the United States of America.

    • alan

      Putin will take the blame for it, so there is nothing no one could have done to stop it. /sac

  • Daniel Berdichevsky

    I mean its hard to believe they have managed to keep it going for this long

    • aldownunder

      Yep, smoke and mirrors

  • Daniel Berdichevsky

    I was just in washington dc its much better than the rest of the country but even there there were a lot off commercial space available and apts for rent, so the average folk even in dc ar3 not doing that well either.

    • SnodtBlossom

      Houses sell in a blink, and rents are in a bubble around me in Tampa.

    • JC Teecher

      Several years ago, I was inside the DC beltway, in fact made a few turns on Pennsylvania Avenue, before making my destination.

      I stopped in at a McDonald’s for a quick breakfast sandwich to go, at about 10:30 am, on a weekday, and it was packed to the gills with people. As I scanned the place while waiting in line, something really got me. I was the only white person in the place besides a scrawny looking guy working behind the counter, that had such bad acne, he looked like he had been in a bobbing for french fries contest.

      Now, all those people surely did not work for the gov, cleaning offices and houses all night, so how did they survive, since they sure as hell did not have day jobs.
      I’ll tell you how most of them survived; they were on immigrant/refugee status, and/ or, welfare, riding on the backs of taxpayers.
      So, it (DC residents) may be much better off than the rest of the country, but to what expense to taxpayers?

      • SaulGoodman

        The DC Metro Region economy is fueled by Federal Government agency activity, that’s
        both DOD and civilian agency. I worked in support of the Fed for 15 years in DC, and only recently moved out. I witnessed the creation of new jobs through a practice called insourcing, which is simply directly hiring the contractor employee, the migration of federal jobs from states to the DC region, and the creation and filling of new positions.
        If the Fed moved away the region would fail both economically and psychologically.
        The US Government is the worlds largest purchases of products and services, DC is the contracting capital of the world. All activity in DC stems from the Fed.

  • Midwest Values

    To show how messed up things are in the US. I am paying $2,300/ Month for health insurance for 3 people total. Something is going to break.

    • aldownunder

      WOW $27600 a year
      How can people survive with bills like that and then all the essentials pm on top of that it’s all got to come crashing down……..unsustainable

      • socalbeachdude

        Very soon there will be no medical expense insurance available at any price so there will be no more premiums to pay at all and people can save all of that money and then simply negotiate with medical care providers to pay out of their own pocket when the need for any services arises.

        • alan

          What will happen is want to be doctors will open up garage clinics to treat people because there will be no option. Its third world, and was must embrace the third world.

          • socalbeachdude

            Doctors in Cuba are among the highest paid people in Cuba and get $68 per month now for being doctors! Perhaps we need to bring that model to America and totally do away with for-profit hospitals and pharmaceutical companies or implement the VA Tri-Care plan for pharmaceuticals (drugs) which cuts the cost of all drugs by 93%.

    • Liberty First

      Freaking sick! And the GOP Establishment, corrupt to the core, cannot get together enough to allow a free market approach.

      • socalbeachdude

        What on earth is a “free market” approach?

        • alan

          Put some money in the politicians pocket then your free to do whatever you want.

        • Liberty First

          Well, first help me understand your education level. Elementary or high school grad?

          • socalbeachdude

            Oh, pulease. Talk of “free markets” is nothing but vaporous vacuous rhetoric in regards to insurance matters.

            Insurance has ALWAYS been a HIGHLY REGULATED BUSINESS to ensure SOLVENCY of insurance companies throughout the 21 or so classes of insurance, and this has always been done in the USA by state insurance commissioners based on the core principles of RISK OF LOSS and sound and proper underwriting to at all times maintaining adequate reserves to cover anticipated losses based on actuarial statistics in the industry which are based on the law of large numbers.

            The core principles of insurance are based on the RISK OF LOSS and the LAW OF LARGE NUMBERS in order to develop actuarily sound premiums that are affordable while maintaining solvency (and hopefully profitability) for the insurance companies that offer coverages. In order for those principles to be achieved there MUST BE SOUND UNDERWRITING AND EXCLUSION OF GUARANTEED AND CATASTROPHIC LOSSES or else insurance premiums would not be affordable and insurance companies would not be able to MAINTAIN SOLVENCY as they are required to do by all state laws which regulate all classes of insurance.

            The ACA violates the core principles of insurance which would result in extreme ADVERSE RISK SELECTION where those with guaranteed losses flock to obtain coverages which would very rapidly render all medical expense insurers INSOLVENT.

            The ACA is really just a COST SHIFTING MECHANISM from those with losses to a third party. If that third party were the US government, then that would be a different story. Unlike the federal government, insurance companies are NOT A BOTTOMLESS PIT OF LOSSES and cannot be for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is that they are not allowed to be by state laws regulating insurance companies which require SOLVENCY at all times.

            This Atrocious Care Act nonsense is the biggest boondoggle in US government history and will not survive for a huge variety of reasons.

            There is no way that the ACA can remain. The Achilles heal is the the MASSIVE LOSSES IMPOSED ON MEDICAL EXPENSE INSURERS who cannot and will not continue to offer medical expense coverages. I think that was the intent in the first place in order to force a “single payer system” and drive the medical expense insurers totally out of business. The only other explanation would be TOTAL IGNORANCE OF INSURANCE PRINCIPLES by those who wrote the legislation. Either way, the result of NO MEDICAL INSURANCE AVAILABLE will rapidly be the same.

            Insurance companies that offer medical expenses coverages are the BIGGEST LOSERS with this debacle and will soon be WITHDRAWING ANY AND ALL MEDICAL EXPENSE COVERAGES FROM THE MARKET and shutting down medical expense insurance operations as they will be have no choice but to do so as they would be RENDERED INSOLVENT if they continued to offer coverages.

          • Eric

            Where did you copy/paste that from?

          • socalbeachdude

            I wrote it, and it is 100% original text with none of it copied from any other source than my direct knowledge of the industry.

          • aldownunder

            I concur it is yet another interesting and informative piece posted by socalbeachdude

          • beezh

            Sad, but true. I can see you understand how insurance works.

          • true

            True. It’s like the game monopoly, except it’s not a game and we all end up losers in the end.

          • socalbeachdude

            There are about 21 different lines of insurance in the 1) Property & Casualty, and 2) Life & Disability classifications. What is true for most all lines of insurance is that RISK IS DISTRIBUTED AMONG MANY FOR LOSSES THAT OCCUR TO THE FEW which is why premiums are generally very low for most insurance coverages.

            However, in the area of MEDICAL EXPENSE INSURANCE which is part of the Life & Disability classification, that really principle really isn’t true as NEARLY EVERYBODY SUBMITS CLAIMS ON THEIR POLICIES and towards the end of their life frequently run up CATASTROPHIC EXPENSES.

            That makes medical expense insurance more like a COST SHIFTING MECHANISM rather than true insurance.

          • thanks

            We live a lot longer these days, I wonder what will happen when all those baby boomers invested in the market sell to keep up with insurance costs. I don’t understand everything you wrote, but very informative, thanks for taking the time.

          • socalbeachdude

            Indeed, and that is a major issue ahead. Medical science has been FAR TOO SUCCESSFUL IN PROLONGING LIFE which is a major reason that medical costs throughout the lifetime of individuals has risen so dramatically.

            100 years ago the average life expectancy of an adult in the US was only 43 and today is it nearly double that with a vast array of treatments now available that were never available previously in order to prolong life.

          • Liberty First

            Blah, blah, blah.

    • SnodtBlossom

      Well either your job sucks or your self-employment isn’t cutting it because you’re whining

      • justwait

        It’s sad to see you treat your fellow humans like that. Wait until you’re in need, then we’ll see how you act.

        • SnodtBlossom

          keep waiting
          What do you know? Maybe he’s a millionaire complaining that his Wheaties get soggy too quickly too.

        • Cinderella Man

          Twaaty is just mad his post op tranny surgery got declined

          • JC Teecher

            He (farty) should get in touch with the recently pardoned Chelsea Manning, and they can touch sticks together and see if they turn into snakes. They can then snake each other til your cows come home.

          • SnodtBlossom

            This is the kind of crahp persona you mental god midgets upvote

    • socalbeachdude

      Don’t worry, as very soon you won’t be able to buy any medical expense insurance at any price in the USA as medical expense insurance companies will simply cease to offer any coverage at all due to the ObamaScare mess.

    • alan

      You just got economically collapsed!

      • wowowow

        yeah, and just wait until that quake hits, then we’ll really be shaking in our boots

    • john folger

      learn to speak islamic,tell them you came here illegaly and the goverment will pay for everything.

    • JC Teecher

      Put half that money in an emergency/accident, health care account. Get your family into a proactive, preventive, health/nutritional program. Stick to it…religiously, and keep Christianity as your back up plan.

      With Christ, all things are possible, and prayers and tithing can prevent a lot of accidents and bad health issues. In other words…clean living.

      You won’t need to subsidize the fat cats at the top of the insurance food chain any longer, for they and the medical establishment will suck the very life out of you, …if you allow it.

  • Cinderella Man

    I was just informed last week at my job that the company hasn’t grown since 2008. Wow a decade of stagnation. The economy is terrible. That’s why I let some cows go this week. Can’t afford to feed all of them. Its tough trying to hang on in this environment. But I’ve been through a lot worse and learned some painful lessons from the 08 crash. Never take a job for granted. Never take your family for granted. And always remember that unless you have it in your hands your money is not safe. I believe we are in for more pain. This gridlock in Washington is frustrating. They are playing political games with the well being of our citizens. This fake Russia crap needs to fade away. You lost Hillary sucks move on. Millions of people sucked it up when Obama got elected they can too. You wanna talk about scandal and impeachable offenses? That man had a laundry list of reasons to impeach but nothing happened. Nobody could criticize or attack him because they would pull the race card. The way President Trump is being treated is disgraceful. But if anything good comes of it you can see now that the MSM is biased and untrustworthy.

    • aldownunder

      Well said

      • SnodtBlossom

        Cinder has no family. He only has a new squeeze.
        He said it himself.
        He’s also been known to say “why buy the cow if you can get the milk for free” Now, ironically(?), he can’t keep his.

        • analogy

          Well obviously the milk isn’t free, and he already owns the cows. Now if cows weren’t so shallow, narcissistic and greedy maybe there would be a better market for cow ownership. Until then, many farmers will continue to go their own way or go broke back mountain.

          • socalbeachdude

            Yeppers!

        • LIZ THE SHIZ

          what is he squeezing, enlighten us?

          • SnodtBlossom

            You, his NaziSpawn out of his testosticlees

          • LIZ THE SHIZ

            you mean sperminazis from his Greek nut sack?

        • CASTIEL

          Sh#t the f#ck !!!!!! Im sure you are one type of rabid cow that cant offer milk and just use two legs……..

          • Cinderella Man

            Twaatblossom is a stupid focktard

          • SnodtBlossom

            Vá embora, sua Portuguese sujeira

          • CASTIEL

            Fat ugly Wh#re……I bet that your clients are blind people or mentally retarded…

    • Liberty First

      “Never take a job for granted. Never take your family for granted. And always remember that unless you have it in your hands your money is not safe. I believe we are in for more pain.”

      Awesome post.

      • SnodtBlossom

        Great ClapTrap

    • JC Teecher

      If life is miserable, you can move to our neck of the woods, where the next county has nearly 75 job openings. They have no hope of filling the needed positions in Tyson poultry processing plants. The openings have been in place for the past year, mostly due to an older retiring work force, and a new generation of spoiled kids that won’t work.

      • Cinderella Man

        Im good brother. Just reality caught up with me. Had to make some tough choices. The area I live in has a 2 percent unemployment rate. If you don’t have a job it’s because you’re lazy.

      • William Lutz

        Oh boy I wish I were there so that I could work at the chicken plant. I only work as a pool guard and this job is not very satisfying.

        • TOUJOURS DEMAIN

          It is a shame that your education, experience and training are not paying off.

          Sorry.

          • aldownunder

            He is just a Muslim snowflake fool

          • SnodtBlossom

            All the Colombians around me at work are doing well.

        • JC Teecher

          Well, a chicken plant got me through 5 years of education, while buying a new (cheap) car, and a mobile home. It was a rough go sometimes, and i went around sleepy headed a lot, but I got through it and learned a valuable lesson.

          One lesson is that staying in an easy mental job, with back breaking duties, was “not” gonna be my future. Less pay with less stress, and stuck in a rut would have been an improvement.

          After college, I gave my 2 week notice, and management offered me a Supervisory position with double the pay, and I said, “thanks but no thanks, I want a real life, and not stuck in a rut for thirty years, with little chance for advancement, and receiving chicken scratch for raises, while increasing my responsibilities all the while”.
          Best decision I ever made was moving on and experiencing all the world had to offer.

      • wiseup

        With the cost of living so high and wages so low, I don’t think you can just blame it on laziness.

        • socalbeachdude

          Indeed, and most of that cost of living comes from HOUSING, EDUCATION, VEHICLE, and MEDICAL costs which are ENORMOUS relative to the incomes of most Americans.

        • JC Teecher

          Well, giving up working, to lay around on a couch that someone else bought, under a roof that someone else is paying for, while cashing in on benefits that other workers are paying for, isn’t the actions of respectful and obedient children either.

          High cost of living, and low wages is the cowards excuse for being lazy. Don’t tell me the sky is blue, when what I am seeing is grey clouds from one end to the other.

          The new generations of young adults, for the most part, are basically lazy azzes that play the victim game, feel entitled, and look for any excuse to get out of working at anything.
          In my generation, if you did not work, boy or girl, you got a boot up yer azz, until you did, or you left home.
          Now all the whiners get is coddled and pitied, and told how special they are.
          Special for what?

          • Concerned Capitalist

            As someone who is likely a “kid,” in the eyes of Social Security Slaves, I work… on creating algorithmic trading systems, creating active management strategies, on top of schoolwork. These are things that unfathomable even to relatively young people (<45-50), who are nearing retirement.

            The forex and equities gains that my trading ideas will yield will be more than those 75 menial positions. Robots are less lazy than plebeians who do monotonous work out of necessity. Some people enjoy such work, but most are unfortunately too unintelligent to do even skilled manual work (auto mechanic, plumber, technician, etc).

            I am entitled to nothing but the ideas and wealth I create. If someone wants to give me a gift, that is different from being forced to pay for welfare, medicaid/care, and elder care/SS insolvency.

          • JC Teecher

            May we all touch you, and hope that some of that brilliance rubs off. Evidently you have more than you need.

          • wiseup

            Sounds like you have a personal problem. Doesn’t make sense to punish everyone for the laziness of a few.

          • JC Teecher

            No personal problem, I just hate lazy people. Have no use for them and in most cases they are no better than drug pushers.

          • SnodtBlossom

            it’s more like plural.. as in problem(s)

      • LIZ THE SHIZ

        Robots will fill those jobs , nobody wants to spend their days chocking chickens

        • Meccaisbabylonthegreat

          “Nobody wants to spend their days choking chickens” hahahahahaha!!!!! Good one!

    • socalbeachdude

      Donald Trump just had a(nother) terrible week

      For a presidency pegged on unpredictability, there’s been one constant for Donald Trump these last two weeks: A series of absolutely horrible, largely self-inflicted political wounds.

      http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/21/politics/trump-worst-week/

      • ISA41:10

        STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • William Lutz

      I suggest retiring next year and taking a cow home with you, since you’re struggling so much.

      • Cinderella Man

        Never pity a man who made 17K on 7 cow calf pairs

        • socalbeachdude

          B3eef prices have plunged from where they were and we have have a massive global grain glut which is substantially lowering the cost of cattle ranching.

        • SnodtBlossom

          I bet that only supported your heroin habit for 3 months.

          • Richard O. Mann

            Snodt, why so angry and mean? Nothing nice to say these days?

          • Cinderella Man

            That’s why she/he/it is Twaatblossom. It’s so dumb it thinks I can read it’s response

          • Evan Elliott

            Yep. It has nothing better to do but make obnoxiously rude comments.

          • SnodtBlossom

            You know you can’t resist

        • Wealthy Capitalist

          Never pity the rich capitalist pig who made US$44K trading USD/JPY for a month.

          Also, farmers in the U.S. are not capitalistic; they are subsidized by Uncle Sam(e-old financial scheme). Why do we not as a nation allow some competitors here and abroad sell agri goods for less money?

          • TOUJOURS DEMAIN

            Everything is fine just the way it is. Those government subsidies are used in part by the farmers to continue to buy ridiculously overpriced herbicides for high yielding crops.

          • Cinderella Man

            Big difference between farmers and ranchers bud. If ranchers get subsidies it’s news to me amigo

        • JC Teecher

          Fast food burgers are being fried by the billions each week. Veal is still in big demand in the big cities around the world.
          Hey, CM, did you hear that Trump brokered a deal for US Ranchers to sell Beef to China?
          The demand is incredible over there, and it will put a premium on usa beef, and cause more of a demand on the already stressed chicken markets.
          Farmers can’t grow enough chickens these days to meet the demand in some areas.
          We are blessed in our area, as producers try to compete with two major poultry producers in this region. One such producer has a purchase/market program with two of our leading supermarket chains here.

          I was talking with a market employee the other day and she noticed I had five packages of boneless and skinless, “all natural” chicken thighs, that had been reduced for quick sell.
          She mentioned that I got a good deal, and that they were really tasty.

          I replied that I could not understand how they could sell the chicken for less than a buck 99 a lb. that was originally priced at $3.59 a lb. and make any money.

          she explained that the poultry producer has a contract with each store, and sends a case of their product weekly, of which the store/market, is only obligated to pay for the packages they sell at the full retail price. So, when the best buy date gets close, rather than have to dump the chicken, they mark it down so low that it almost always sells, and the market keeps the full amount of the reduced price, just for handling the product.
          Five years ago, this was unheard of, but I am sure loving it, as we eat chicken about 5 out of 7 days a week.

          • socalbeachdude

            With the price of beef continuing to fall.

    • LIZ THE SHIZ

      well, that’s how our corrupted system works, empty promises to get elected followed by fake news lead to distract the masses while legislators drag their feet and stall so nothing of any concequence happens

    • Gen11American

      Look up “Reasons to impeach Barack Obama.” It’s quite an enlightening (horrifying) experience! Over 50+ violations of the US Constitution and up to 100 reasons to impeach him but none of the Democrats or RINOs raised an issue about any of it! Hopefully the White Majority in US has learned its lesson about giving up Majority Rule, especially to a Muslim globalist puppet of George Soros!

    • Arthur Wholeflaffers

      I didn’t vote for Shillary, but she did NOT lose. Even with millions of Democratic thrown off the voting roles, Clinton still won the popular vote by 3 million. That figure would probably be at least 4 million if voters were not illegally thrown off the roles. I kind of hope in the future both parties would put up a better candidate, but I will still vote for minor parties, which represents the majority of Americans. But Americans have never been known for their critical thinking skills.

  • aldownunder

    “The beauty of me is that I’m very rich.” (actual Trump quote)
    “The point is, you can never be too greedy.” (actual Trump quote)

    • socalbeachdude

      Donnie has never been noted for his humility!

    • sad

      Scary right. Our leaders reflect the heart of the people. We have become a narcissistic society.

      • socalbeachdude

        As I have said elsewhere here tonight, CONCEIT is the biggest sin of all and is root of all sins.

        • Stuey

          Then you are in serious trouble.

          • youarepartoftheproblem

            we all are…….

          • socalbeachdude

            Huh? You apparently don’t even understand the meaning of the word.

  • socalbeachdude

    Around 50% of all Americans pay absolutely zero in federal income taxes and even more than that get federal government benefits of some sort. This group of the population is the biggest cause of the federal deficit of well over $1 trillion a year and the spending on these people at the federal level needs to be cut very dramatically without further delay.

  • socalbeachdude

    Here in Southern California you could buy as many dozen as you wanted to of Large Grade AA eggs for 77 cents a dozen all weekend Friday-Sunday and milk is only $2.49 per gallon. I just got a major amount of grocers for only $20 and just got them all put away including hard boiling the dozen eggs to make egg salad.

    http://www.Ralphs.com

    • LIZ THE SHIZ

      I’ve seen washed up has been movie stars shopping at Ralphs, makes sense

      • socalbeachdude

        I saw Linda Hunt the other week shopping at Vons and she was in a delightful mood and her show is doing great! Ralphs is a superb store and has great foods at wonderful prices and always gives away something free ever week on Free Fridays!

  • socalbeachdude

    Rents will fall all over the country just like they are now doing in NYC with rents down around 15% as landlords have increasing vacancies and attempt to attract new tenants.

    Nearly 1 million people have moved out of the NYC area since 2010 and apartments are going begging and sitting vacant at increasing rates.

    Escape from New York: 1 MILLION people have left the Big Apple since 2010 in search of cheaper and warmer areas of the US

    In total 902,000 more domestic migrants left the New York area than arrived between 2010 and 2016 as the economy improved, allowing people to shift west to areas such as Dallas and Houston.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4375154/1-MILLION-people-left-New-York-area-2010.html

  • socalbeachdude

    Most so-called “poor people” simply do not manage money properly at all and waste most of the money hey get. Most have big screen TVs, cable TV services, fancy dell phones, outrageously overpriced name-brand (typically Nike) sneakers, fancy cars, and then wonder why they don’t have any money.

    • TOUJOURS DEMAIN

      This is the most accurate and truthful statement ever made on this blog, except for the ones that I make.

      • Waxwings

        I was recently terminated from employment for commenting to my sociopathic supervisor that he was a bit emotional during a hypothetical discussion on cost savings measures.
        I didn’t have as much talk back money in the bank as I’d have liked, but I’ll make do.
        Now that I’m back on the open market I’m forced to obtain credentials that are now required for the work I do.
        So, I’m busy studying to take a professional cert exam next month. Pass or Fail it’s all on me, I accept this and understand both positive and negative sides to my success.
        I’m self funding this effort, and have cut out all non essential costs from our life.
        I have saved enough to carry us for 1 year, and even money set aside for cashews and fuel to and from the salmon fishing area…

    • whywhywhy

      There needs to be better education for the poor. But, it really starts
      with a healthy family unit, which has been greatly lacking in our modern
      society.

      • socalbeachdude

        100% correct, but there needs to be a much better EDUCATION SYSTEM FOR EVERYONE. The term “education” from the Latin words “e duco” which means TO DRAW OUT FROM WITHIN. Education in the classic liberal Socratic and Platonic sense is about GETTING FOLKS TO THINK AND REASON as the means to true understanding of the world around them and as to how people function.

        Today’s pitiful EDYOUKAYSHUNUL system is about almost exactly the opposite of throwing nearly irrelevant factoids at students so they can answer multiple choice questions rather than write essays and actually think things through which is precisely why over the past 40 years the once best in the world educational system has failed so miserably throughout America.

        As to family units, they along with school units and churches (the trinity) are what make for intelligent well-rounded reasonable intelligent functioning adults and all 3 institutions have been SEVERELY UNDERMINED over the years.

        As a young political science major in the early 1970s it was extremely clear that AFDC (Aid to Families with Dependent Children) was a huge factor in breaking apart the family unit for scores of millions of families – particularly in black communities – as aid was only available to single mothers with children which resulted in dads coming into the house through the bedroom window at night and leaving by the morning. We need a complete rethink of those programs designed to assist FAMILIES to ensure that really do strengthen the family unit.

        • yes

          I concur. If only we as a whole stopped seeing each other as commodities and started valuing humanity. The church included. There is also a purposeful intent in hiding the truth, which has very dark undertones.

          • socalbeachdude

            Yes, I couldn’t agree more!

          • Pastor Bob

            Amen! Yes!

  • socalbeachdude

    The substantial slowdown in the US economy began in 1928 as the huge credit bubble blown during the 1920s began to burst. The crash in the real estate markets began in 1926 in Florida and was epic and rolled through most of the country up in to the 1930s. The stock market crash of 1929 was just one of the many events during that time period from 1926 through 1938 caused by the bursting of the 1920s massive credit bubble.

    The entire process of correcting the huge credit bubble only lasted about 8 years in total and the 4 period from 1934 to 1937was actually a vibrant time of growth for the US economy followed by a very short downturn in 1937-1938.

    Many parts of the US were not affected at all by the so-called Great Depression including here in Beverly Hills, California where the economy was booming.

  • socalbeachdude

    Obamacare uncertainty could force insurers out of the medical expense insurance marketplaces

    Insurers may be forced to leave Obamacare markets or dramatically increase premiums if they don’t get answers soon on Republican plans to either repeal or modify the law, industry groups and experts say.

    Insurers could only watch as Republicans moved to repeal Obamacare, then abandoned that effort, and then said this week they want to try again in the next few months. That uncertainty is making it almost impossible for insurers to predict the state of the law in the short term, even as they have to quickly decide how engaged they’ll be in the Obamacare marketplaces.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/obamacare-uncertainty-could-force-insurers-out-of-the-marketplaces/article/2618840

  • socalbeachdude
  • socalbeachdude
  • socalbeachdude

    Kushner A ‘Person Of Interest’ In Russian Probe

    Donald Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, has become a “person of interest” in the ongoing investigation into the new US president and his team’s ties with Russia, according to a report.

    Investigators are believed to have questioned Kushner with regards to the case, the New York magazine reported on Friday.

    Earlier, The Washington Post reported that a senior adviser to Trump was being investigated. It said the person under investigation was close to the President, but did not identify them.

    “It’s Jared Kushner. Have confirmed this with four people. I’m not speculating,” Yashar Ali, a New York magazine reporter, said in a tweet.

    Kushner, who is married to Trump’s eldest daughter Ivanka, went to Washington earlier on Friday to accompany Trump on his first foreign trip.

    Trump’s critics say the trip, which involves stops in Saudi Arabia, Israel and Vatican respectively, is designed to take away attention from the chaos that swept the White House following Trump’s decision to fire FBI chief James Comey.

    http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/05/20/522525/US-Kushner-Trump-Russia-Comey-FBI/

  • socalbeachdude
  • socalbeachdude

    Most all major insurance companies – and there are really very few left from what there used to be 40 years ago – do market their products in ALL 50 STATES but those products must be approved by the insurance commissioners in each state and those selling the products must be licensed by the state in which they reside and sell those products.

    We already have essentially a national insurance system in terms of distribution but it is STATE REGULATED AND LICENSED in each of the 50 states by their own insurance commissioners rather than by the federal government.

    Nearly all insurance companies use policy language that has been nationally standardized by ISO (Insurance Services Office) for which that language and related forms have been approved by the state insurance commissioners.

    The biggest area of insurance into which federal government has meddled is medical expense insurance, particularly in Medicare, where there is very significant federal regulation including the specific definitions and forms for which Medicare Supplement coverage (Medicare Part B) can be offered and Prescription Drug coverage (Medicare Part D) which are already completely limited and standardized nationally.

    The ACA went much further than this in meddling and attempted to regulate and specify the entire medical expense insurance industry as to the types of policies and coverages that could be provided by any medical expense insurer. That is why there are “co-ops” and nearly all of the 23 of those set up are totally INSOLVENT with 16 of those having been shut down with all policies cancelled, and why there are 1) bronze, 2) silver, 3) gold, and 4) platinum levels of coverage available on the national insurance exchanges which bypass licensed agents in each of the 34 or so states where they exist.

    Most all people who signed up for the ACA (ObamaScare) were FORCED INTO MEDICAID (federal government / state shared medical welfare) based on their income levels and they did not even have a choice of purchasing one of the few available private insurance medical expense coverage plans.

  • socalbeachdude
  • socalbeachdude

    The fact of the matter is that the only reason a “Middle Class” ever existed in the US was due to BENEVOLENT PATERNALISM where people were simply way overpaid relative to what they were actually worth. As M&A (Mergers & Acquisitions) started dramatically accelerating in the late 1970s the concept of benevolent paternalism was thrown into the trash bin of history and many people were fired as vast debt was taken on by acquires to buy companies.

    Today, there are very few corporations relative to what there were and tens of millions of people have been fired and jobs have been outsourced abroad in the name of CORPORATE PROFITS which is the concept that runs America today in lieu of BENEVOLENT PATERNALISM.

    • Carl

      Interesting SoCal and very true. I encourage everyone to study their history. To see for themselves the truth about money, society, people. The reality of where we once were and how we will return to this again. The experiment is over. No more can a person be average or below and expect to provide a comfortable living for themselves and their families. Competition will bring poverty and starvation to many. America will be the third world it ignores and despises.

      • socalbeachdude

        Nobody has done a better job reviewing this issue than Rex Nutting of Dow Jones.

        Opinion: How the stock market destroyed the middle class – By Rex Nutting

        How did we get here?

        http://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-the-stock-market-destroyed-the-middle-class-2015-04-24?link=MW_popular

        • yup

          Douglas Rashkoff also has a good grasp on the issue.

          • socalbeachdude

            I fully concur. Do you have links you could post here on his take on the matter?

          • yup

            Not sure how to post links without getting flagged, but a search with his name in u tube brings up a good volume of information.

          • socalbeachdude

            Thanks!

  • socalbeachdude

    AT LEAST ONE THING IS GROWING EXPONENTIALLY IN AMERICA…

    109,631,000 Americans on Welfare…

    http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/terence-p-jeffrey/354-percent-109631000-welfare

    • amazing

      Amazing. The television always tries to convince us this is a race issue. Not true, unless they mean race to the bottom.

      • socalbeachdude

        This is not a race matter at all, but rather about the CORPORATISM that have overtaken the USA.

        • amazing

          amen, thanks for being informed.

      • JC Teecher

        Actually it is about race. When you boil it down, there are two groups of peoples that have continually and majorly always voted a liberal agenda, of which has cursed this Nation to the Point of extinction almost.
        African Americans and Hispanics have been the driving force that keeps dems in office.
        Forget the right / left argument just now, because we know heathen and evil has no right or left,.repub or dem, dedication.
        But; the two groups aforementioned are overwhelmingly Christian, and carry their bibles to church on Sunday religiously, and some even two, three or more days each week. They look so holy and spiritual, but yet they go in the booths every other year, and vote for an anti-God, anti-Christian agenda. Kill more babies, marry more homos, and take more of God out of the educational systems. All these are the agendas of the liberals left, of which the dems are 100% for.

        So, if the African American, and Hispanics were to not vote for ten years, the tables would turn dramatically. Just saying.
        The dems know this and have played to them for decades, yet has their lives improved any, or for the better? No they continue to be enslaved by them, and even some of their own skin types in leadership positions.
        I have no prejudice or hate towards any specific groups of people, but facts are facts, and pc is not what I follow.

        • socalbeachdude

          Absolutely false and very stupid assertions.

  • socalbeachdude

    Opinion: How the stock market destroyed the middle class – By Rex Nutting

    WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — There’s something seriously wrong with an economy that nurtures a few billionaires but can’t sustain the middle class.

    Many factors have been blamed for the plummeting fortunes of the American middle class: globalization, technology, deregulation, easy credit, the winner-take-all economy, and even the inevitable tide of history.

    But one under-appreciated factor is a pervasive business model that encourages top managers of American corporations to loot their company for short-term gains, depriving those companies of the funds they need to build and enlarge, and invest in their workers for the long haul.

    How do they loot their company? By using large stock buybacks to manage the short-term objectives that trigger higher compensation for themselves. By using those stock buybacks to manipulate the share price, which allows them to use inside information to time their own stock sales. By using buybacks to funnel most of the company’s profits back to shareholders (including themselves).

    They use the stock market to loot their companies.

    “The ‘buyback corporation’ is in large part responsible for a national economy characterized by income inequality, employment instability, and diminished innovative capacity,” wrote William Lazonick, an economics professor at the University of Massachusetts at Lowell in a new paper published by the Brookings Institution.

    Lazonick argues that corporations — which once retained a sizable share of profits to reinvest (including investing in their workforce by paying them enough to get them to stay) — have adopted a “downsize-and-distribute” model.

    How did we get here?

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-the-stock-market-destroyed-the-middle-class-2015-04-24?link=MW_popular

    • thanks

      good article. thanks for posting

      • socalbeachdude

        You’re welcome! In my opinion, Rex totally nailed the issue as to what is going on with the middle class.

  • cetude

    Trump is doing the same things Hillary would have done — different faces, same garbage. USA and the world is doomed. Nuclear war in a year or two we all die.

    • socalbeachdude

      Sad, but true except for the nuclear war part.

    • sosadsotrue

      so true. sad that not enough people realize that truth.

      • socalbeachdude

        Indeed, but that is becoming very apparent with ever single passing day.

    • JC Teecher

      Dying would be the easy part. It’s the living in the throes of war; God forbid, nuclear war.

  • tacoma

    Total national debt $20 trillion, about $14 trillion of that net and real. Everybody know not a cent of this debt, which is the sovereign debt of the U.S. of A., will be repaid. Not a cent. Any foreigner holder of this debt had better not get any ideas or they will have to deal with an angry Pentagon. This is the main mission of the military now. Which is why they keep getting that trillion dollar every year.

    Household debt is $12.7 trillion. This debt MUST be repaid because it is private sector real money. But only interests and tiny amount of the principle will be repaid. Meaning household debt will get bigger as the years go by.

    Student loans now about $1.4 trillion, owed by students to the government. Will they be repaid? Well, ask any student and they will laugh, then cry.

    What about commercial debt? It is a ‘bit’ more than household, close to $15 trillion. A ‘bit’ for America means a trillion or two. Commercial debts are secured with assets. Don’t pay, assets gone. But when commercial assets are liquidated to pay debt, business is gone, jobs gone.

    Writer and columnist Bill Bonner wrote a book called “Empire of Debt” years ago. People paid no attention, many laughed. There is a reason though. The U.S. Fed and Treasury are the world biggest issuer of debt. For decades they kept issuing and people kept buying. Trillions upon trillions, all debt backed by ‘the economy’. The American economy so strong there is no doubt about the debt.

    What about the economy now? An economy that creates only lousy jobs have less wealth and therefore can back only certain amount of debt. How much debt can the U.S. economy hold up now, or the future? To answer this question one can use rocket science. A rocket at launch is mighty powerful, lot of fuel (the economy) to hold up gravity. Then physics run things as the rocket goes up. Where is the American rocket now? Half way, near space, in orbit? How long it can hold up Mother Gravity?

    If you asked the Fed Chair, she assures the world ‘forever’.

    • socalbeachdude

      All $20 trillion of the US Treasury debt is net and real. The $14 trillion / $6 trillion split is for PUBLIC and NON-PUBLIC debt with the $6 trillion being owned by the various federal agencies with the largest of those being the Medicare and Social Security Trust Funds which are required by federal law to “invest” in US Treasuries and which is where those Trust funds monies were put.

      More than $6 trillion of the federal government debt is REPAID IN FULL EACH YEAR to its owners. More than $7 trillion of new US Treasuries are issued each year by the US Treasury to raise those funds to repay that debt which is DUE UPON MATURITY and to add an additional more than $1 trillion each year to the federal debt.

      ALL HOLDERS OF US TREASURIES ARE REPAID IN FULL UPON MATURITY OF THE US TREASURIES THAT THEY OWN. Interest on the federal deb is now extremely low at only around $240 billion a year due to the very low yields (interest rates) in the US Treasuries markets which are the largest bond markets in the world.

      Foreign holders (owners) of US Treasuries are treated no differently at all than any other owners of US Treasuries, and I would suggest you learn about the US Treasuries markets consisting of bills, bonds, notes, and TIPS at:

      http://www.TreasuryDirect.gov

      The federal government debt outstanding of $20 trillion is less than ONE-THIRD OF THE TOTAL OUTSTANDING DEBT IN THE US which now exceeds $67 trillion.

      By the way, the total US money supply as measured by M2 is currently only about $13.5 trillion and includes the total aggregate sum of all checking and savings accounts in the regulated US banking system.

    • serpentnation

      You’re right about that rocket analogy. America’s solvency is as real as it’s space program.

    • JC Teecher

      Good comments, of which I enjoy reading.
      People see the wealth and extravagance of Saudi Arabia, via the news of Trumps visit. They see the people’s that were once nomadic and living in tents, now living lavishly; even the poor aren’t poor like America’s poor.
      All this at the expense of the middle classes of people here in America by purchasing their over priced oil, for decades.

      They see all this and think, how did we get left behind when we are supposed to be the most wealthy and prosperous nation on Earth?
      It makes the people start to wake up and see the gov/leaders for what they really are…they are sell outs.
      They have sold out the American people for the purpose of lining their own pockets and making other nations filthy rich.
      It will have consequences and come back to bite us one day, and one day is not as far off as it once was.

      • Carl

        “People see the wealth and extravagance of Saudi Arabia, via the news of
        Trumps visit. They see the people’s that were once nomadic and living
        in tents, now living lavishly; even the poor aren’t poor like America’s
        poor.”

        Please stop your ignorance is showing once again. Do you really think the poor in saudi arabia are living a more lavish life than the poor in america? What exactly do the poor have there that most of the poor here don’t have? I would rather be poor and live in the USA then the “level of poor” you imagine and live in saudi arabia.

        Can you give examples of how much better the poor live there?

        • JC Teecher

          why, why, why, what what what, when when when, who who who?

          • Carl

            The religious hate questions. It makes them have to actually think about what they believe rather than blindly following along.

          • answer-none

            sad little man

  • MaxRockatansky33

    Solution is simple-buy less. Don’t waste your food and don’t be a hoarder. But if you fancy a new car every few years and a new smartphone every few months then you ask for trouble. Don’t be a scrooge as well. Everything with moderate amount.

    • huh?

      Solution to what? I don’t think there is a simple solution to get out of the financial pickle we’re in. Maybe a war that sends us back to the dark ages might be a good thing for the future of humanity.

      • socalbeachdude

        How would any further wars do anything BUT FOR VASTLY WORSENING THE FEDERAL DEBT?

    • Carl

      u should read about planned obsolescence. Lew rockwell had an article over the weekend about new cars and the purposeful cost of repair over replace. Google:

      A Great Time to Buy a Used Car . . . But Not Because They’re Cheap to read.

      Soon you won’t even have the option of buying used because those older models will be banned for inefficiency and emissions or some other government red tape designed to help their buddies in the car business.

  • JC Teecher

    The conditions for the next crisis has been building, and we will get a double or even a triple dose of 2008/09 if Trump and his administration continue to push for the division of Israel.

    Jerusalem, and Israel is the barometer for economic/political/spiritual changes in the world. There is ample evidence from past events. Every time America, via it’s leaders, tries to divide the land of Israel, America receives some bad juju, in the form of disasters.

    If Trump continues to double down on the “Two State Solution”, look for a big dividing of the land of USA. Maybe that ole New Madrid thing I posted about yesterday will come upon ole ussag.

    Cursings, not blessings; that is what we get when we start trying to monkey around with the Divine Covenant for the Land/Nation of Israel. Israel is divided enough as it is with Jerusalem’s Temple Mount being trodden down by the heathen peoples.
    You can dress up a big gathering of so-called wealthy elite ruling classes of peoples in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, and make a few elite business deals over pompous wealth and call it a “holy” place with holy peoples, but God still sees those that don’t accept Jesus Christ as His Son, in a different light. Saudi Arabia is still a sponsor of Terrorism through it’s Sunni brotherhood of the muzzies, and world dominance is their ultimate goal…infiltration..infiltration..infiltration.
    Pink lipstick and tutu’s on a pig, and it is still pork underneath.

    • Carl

      Stop spouting your religions lies and nonsense. This has nothing to do with your impotent god and everything to do with the false reality that was setup so that people would become willing slaves to the system – which was never sustainable.

      • JC Teecher

        Go chew on some fatback, ole stepson of perdition.

        • Carl

          Too bad you are unable to answer legitimate questions. Ignoring what you have no answer for and spewing your nonsense about morality and gods punishments which is nonsense. You obviously have no grasp of history or the way the world actually works.

          • JC Teecher

            I am not the one with continual rants about how unfair God is and what a liar everyone that believes in Christianity is.

            You have proven time and time again that you have an atheistic, God hating agenda here and that is priority one. You seem to me like a paid lefty troll, and never work, so what is your deal?
            Who is keeping you up Carl?
            How do you survive with your days and nights spent pushing keys?
            I have worked hard all my life and have been blessed to the point of early retirement, so I have the time and the money to teach biblical facts, while all you do is hate and blame.
            Your life seems like a very pitiful existence, and seriously, if I didn’t have anything worth living for, like you, I would just go off somewhere and end it so I could see, once and for all, just how real God can be, or not be, in your case.
            Get lost Carl, …oh wait a minute, you already are.

          • Carl

            I don’t hate god at all. What I hate is people like you who talk out of both sides of their mouths about god. One minute he can’t interfere in the lives of humans, the next he is exacting punishment on the wicked and unrepentant through natural and/or economic disasters. Maybe if christians were consistent in what their actual god will/can do I would have respect for their 2 cents which they seem to throw around all the time with useless bible quotes and verses or platitudes that do nothing to help anyone (you know like jesus saves and all that b.s.).

    • Stuey

      Then why did the USA do so well before the creation of Israel in 1947? Actually, things have went down culturally, spiritually, morally, and economically in this country since 1947.

      • JC Teecher

        USA liberals started in 1954 with the Johnson Amendment to the IRS code, determining what they decided was the meaning of “separation of church and state”. Wrong.

        Then again in 1962 the liberals of the Supreme Court took prayer out of public schools. Wrong.

        Then again in 1973 they legalized abortion. Wrong.

        Then in 1986 The Johnson Amendment was reintroduced and reinforced with the IRS code via ronnie cowpoke Reagan, as a stamp of approval of the determination of the separation of church and state. Wrong again.

        Jump ahead to June 16, 2015, the liberal majority of the SCOTUS, voted to make gay/qu**r marriage legal, and our muzzy potus disgraced the nation by lighting up the White House in the Rainbow colors of the gay pride gang. Wrong again and they are like a gang, a street gang.

        So, yes things have gone downhill, spiritually, morally, and now economically, since 1947. Your point does not really make sense. What does your interpretation of USA doing so well prior to the Creation of the State of Israel, mean?
        I don’t think you can say that WW1 and WW2, and the Great Depression was something to be proud of.

        • Carl

          If the old testament is history as most christians say and there was a new covenant with god and man with jesus and the new testament then all this israel stuff is now just mythology and nonsense.

          You are a liar about the morality of people in 1947 compared to now. People are what they are. Religion changes nothing about who or what a person really is. Look at Josh Duggar who was brought up with religion and faith since birth. It did not stop his illegal and immoral acts.

          Why do you care if gay people get married? How exactly does it impact your life in any way shape or form?

          • JC Teecher

            The gay agenda is now promoted in the educational system via the left and political correctness.

            Christians are now singled out and silenced if they are not on board the gay train in schools. this affects me indirectly through my grand children as they begin to be subjected to this evilness via the public education system which has ousted Prayer and mention of Jesus Christ and Christianity, yet promotes all other forms of worship by students of all other religions.

            You, Carl are the big liar on this site, and time and time again you have been proven wrong. I do not care what your stance on religion or God, or Christianity. Apparently, there are many many more that could care less about what you say and think.

            If I could, you would have been blocked a long time ago. I am going to contact Disqus, so, you may be going into the trash bin (where you belong) of ECB history, as far as I am concerned.

            Put that in your little self god pipe and smoke it, all the way to hades.

          • Carl

            That is NOT what I asked you. I asked you how two gay people getting married affects you not your grand children.

            Sex education and religious studies in schools is an entirely different topic.

            So again I am asking you how does two gay people getting married affect your life?

            Why do you care so much? Since all sin is equal in the eyes of your god, why are you only focused on gay people? Why not the million other things god hates just as much and just the same?

          • JC Teecher

            Don’t bother asking or replying to me again as I have figured out a way to block your posts from showing up on the replies, and from my emails.

            Thank God and greyhound it’s gone….bye bye!

          • Carl

            What’s the matter teech did my questions from the last article and this one strike a nerve. Hit too close to home for your faith.

          • JC Teecher

            The idiot can’t spew more of his rubbish towards me anymore. He is a pawn of the demonic forces that are ruling the planet, soon to become nothingness.

          • socalbeachdude

            Laughably false and very stupid assertions.

        • Stuey

          My point was we have been supporting and backing Israel since it was created and this country has still went to hell.

      • Dan Wingert

        We won our last war in 1945.

        • socalbeachdude

          So?

      • killumall

        kill the fcukin sionist chews. that’s why

  • Richard O. Mann

    Any day now. Any day.

    • socalbeachdude

      Any day for what?

  • Kent Harris

    Honestly, I may be the exception. My pay has continued to climb pretty good. I started out part time at $14.50 and now I am full time making $20.85 and will be getting another raise next month of $21.70 and I have been with this company, Southeastern Freight, for just over a year. I have about $3000 in the bank if I need it. God has been good to me and I am grateful to Him for giving me the ability and the chance to succeed.

    • JC Teecher

      Union?

    • TOUJOURS DEMAIN

      If you are young (in your 20’s) live on 80% maximum of your net pay. Try every year to live on 1% less than you did the year before. In the end you will be happy you did.

      I live on about 40% of my base net salary.

      • JC Teecher

        Bad advice. As the costs of living go up, and the beast system is soon to come, making the dollar obsolete; spend the money now while you have it, buying up preparedness/prepper items, and enjoying life as a young man should.

        A two year supply of canned and dried foods will come in real nicely when the shtf and people are starving. Make sure you have a way to prepare potable water without electricity, if the grid goes out by EMP or CME.

        Security will be a must, especially for those near larger cities. choose and supply wisely. Lead, brass, copper, and some of that black stuff called powder will be very important. The most important PMs of all.
        A small amount of silver may come in handy, unless it is outlawed by TPTB. Then all gold and silver will be only useful for barter, and that may be a stretch to find someone willing to trade anything for something that will be outlawed by the Beast System.

        There will come a time when some people will trade off an ounce of gold for a loaf of bread.
        But what can a man get for ab ounce of gold at that time if it becomes unlawful to hold such, and try to use in place of the NWO digital currency. Bitcoin? Nonexistent after the Beast System comes on line.

        • TOUJOURS DEMAIN

          I stand by my suggestion as mentioned.
          It may not be possible for everyone but it is good advise.

        • socalbeachdude

          What utter nonsense, dude.

  • aldownunder

    Another intelligent and informative post
    Thankyou

  • Dan Wingert

    Downtown Salt Lake City looks just like the 1930’s with 100’s of people on the street out of work.

  • James

    Not only that, the same survey discovered that 23 percent of U.S. adults will not be able to pay their bills this month…

    I thought all polling was inaccurate

  • BREAKING NEWS

    20 DEAD 100’s INJURED AT “SUSPECTED SUICIDE BOMBING” AT ARIANA GRANDE CONCERT IN MANCHESTER ENGLAND.

    • aldownunder

      What a sad place the world is becoming my sympathies to all the families affected
      Time to put a stop to all this crap,supposedly in the name of a religion

    • JC Teecher

      Yep, the trail of tears continues, and someday, we will be burying more innocent Americans, because of the Islamic serpents of Satan.

  • JC Teecher

    Technology is great when it works. I finally am able to block the gov shill troll carl. It is now blocked like the other atheist/deist snotbloss, and the ever so psychotic sbd, just to name a few. We are told in the Words of our Creator, to “never” argue with Satan or one of his minions.

    I have given all three of these, many opportunities to have intelligent conversations/discussions, like I try to do with 99% of folks I come into contact with. However; when it becomes evident that all they comprehend is hatred and anger, because something called love and compassion is absent from their lives, then it is time to give up and follow the instructions from above.
    No one, especially a Christian will ever win an argument with someone that has become possessed and controlled by demonic forces.
    God knows this and it’s why He says move along and don’t waste your time, because He will deal with them in time. Amen to that!

    • Satan Lucifer Beelzebub

      Correct! Do not waste your time sir, you haven’t much left.

      I’ll leave the fire on for you.

    • socalbeachdude

      What utter nonsense. Carl’s comments are EXCELLENT and always to the point and have enlightening information. Sorry to say, that certainly isn’t the case with your stuff which is way off base and typically way off topic.

    • Carl

      Yes the ole stand by when someone touches on something that even has you doubting your faith and your god. The brain shuts down and you use the ole that person is of the devil line. It is not about winning an argument teecher. It is about getting you to see that what you believe should be examined from the microscope of an outsider (same as christians do with all the other religions that they believe are false). Until you overcome your fear of doing this then you are a brainwashed prisoner and a fool.

      BTW: god will never deal with anyone (payback after a person is dead is meaningless to the living).

      If he did the population on a global scale would be greatly reduced on a daily basis as god dealt with those who harm others. But he doesn’t because he either 1. can’t. 2. doesn’t care 3. enjoys the pain on earth (he does like a good animal sacrifice after all) 4. doesn’t exist.

  • JC Teecher

    I wish I had a pool boy job. I could while away the days watching some of God’s most beautiful creatures walking by.

  • socalbeachdude

    True.

  • socalbeachdude

    HALF of American retail workers could be replaced by robots, chilling new study finds

    Nearly half of Americans working in retail are at risk of losing their job to a robot, a new stud found. Up to 7.5M of these jobs are set to be automated – and most of them are held by women.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4532118/Study-warns-7-5M-retail-jobs-automated.html

  • “V”

    I know many of my co-workers, friends and neighbors who have family living with them due to rising rents, lost jobs, foreclosures etc. The cost of living is outpacing wages. I feel the collapse is closer than ever, maybe late this year or next. Be prepared.

  • JC Teecher

    This site is like Mother Teresa compared to most sites unless they are the heavily moderated Christian sites.
    Seems like I have seen your name on a couple of those sites in the past???

  • socalbeachdude

    Donnie will soon be a forgotten American.

    • Stuey

      He will always be remembered by the people as the peoples president and the man who tried to save this country. And he will always be listed as a president of the USA rather you like it or not.

      • socalbeachdude

        Donnie will only be remembered as a DERANGED DUFUS DINGALING who even made enemies out of all of the prior friends o the USA and then quickly forgotten as a lunatic fringe moment in the history of America.

        • Stuey

          Guess YOU voted for the wrong person then. So what does that say about your judgement. You campaigned for him and was 100% behind him now just within a few months you are his biggest enemy.

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