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14 Signs That There Is A Plot To Use Russia As An Excuse To Steal The Presidency From Trump On December 19th Or January 6th

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14-sign-public-domainDonald Trump could have the election legally stolen from him on either December 19th when the Electoral College casts their votes or on January 6th when a joint session of Congress gathers to count those votes.  The establishment is in full-blown panic mode at this point, and they seem to have settled on “Russian interference in the election” as the angle that they plan to use to try to deny Trump the presidency.  As you will see below, there is an all-out effort to try to persuade members of the Electoral College that are supposed to be committed to Donald Trump to cast their votes for someone else instead.  And if that doesn’t work, the groundwork is being laid for the Electoral College votes to potentially be invalidated when a joint session of Congress meets to count those votes on January 6th.  I will explain how that would work later on in this article, but first let’s take a look at 14 signs that indicate that there is a plot to use Russia as an excuse to steal the presidency from Donald Trump…

#1 A group of 10 presidential electors has sent a letter to National Intelligence Director James Clapper asking to be briefed on Russian efforts to interfere in the election in November.  This group is being led by Nancy Pelosi’s daughter Christine.

#2 The Clinton campaign is publicly supporting the effort to arrange for the members of the Electoral College to be given an “intelligence briefing” on Russian interference in the election before they cast their votes.

#3 White House spokesman Josh Earnest claims that Donald Trump “called on Russia to hack his opponent” and that Trump “benefited from malicious Russian cyberactivity”.

#4 Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has announced that he supports an investigation into “Russian election interference”.

#5 On Sunday, U.S. Senators Chuck Schumer, Jack Reed, John McCain and Lindsey Graham announced that they very much desire to see an investigation into Russian interference in the election.

#6 U.S. Representative David Cicilline is urging electors to consider the “extent that foreign interference in the United States presidential elections may have influenced the final result” before they cast their votes.

#7 U.S. Representative Jim Himes is calling Donald Trump “a danger to the republic” and is publicly encouraging members of the Electoral College to vote for someone other than Donald Trump on December 19th.  I don’t recall any member of Congress ever suggesting members of the Electoral College do such a thing in any other election.

#8 Time Magazine is openly lobbying for members of the Electoral College to vote for someone other than Donald Trump on December 19th.

#9 The former acting director of the CIA has boldly proclaimed that Russian attempts to alter the outcome of the election in November were “the political equivalent of 9/11”.

#10 Former CIA agent Bob Baer recently went on CNN and publicly called for a new election if it can be shown that the first election was not legitimate due to Russian interference.

#11 Former CIA operative and erstwhile presidential candidate Evan McMullin says that Donald Trump is “not a loyal American” because his views are not anti-Russian enough.

#12 The Huffington Post is touting a 1995 federal court ruling as a precedent that could be used to take the presidency from Donald Trump and hand it to Hillary Clinton if a court finds that Russian interference altered the outcome of the election.

#13 Hillary Clinton’s Communications Director Jennifer Palmieri is now claiming that a “foreign state” tried to hack her Gmail account just days before the election.

#14 Barack Obama has ordered the intelligence community to gather all of the evidence that it can find of Russian interference in the election and to deliver that evidence to him before he leaves office.

Most Trump supporters do not realize how very serious this is.  The establishment absolutely hates Trump and wants to find a way to keep him from taking office.  Now that they have gained traction with this “Russian hacking” angle, they plan to push this as hard as they can.  An article that was just posted by Time Magazine explained why this issue could potentially cause some members of the Electoral College to change their votes…

And still further, we now learn that the Russians played a significant role in manipulating information available to the American people in a concerted effort to bring about the election of Trump. Even if this was not Trump’s doing, is it not the duty of the members of the Electoral College to consider whether the 2016 presidential election was undermined by a foreign power? And mustn’t it matter that the foreign power did so in order to bring about the election of a particular candidate? As Alexander Hamilton made clear, this was, one of the chief concerns of the Framers. As Hamilton explained in The Federalist Papers, a primary reason for the Electoral College was the need to protect our nation against “the desire of foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils . . . by raising a creature of their own to the chief magistracy of the Union.”

Of course this is completely and utterly ridiculous, but this is the kind of mental gymnastics that they are going through right now.  They want to feel justified in denying Donald Trump the presidency, and so they are going to make this “Russian interference in the election” into the biggest issue that they possibly can.

Which is ironic, because as Paul Joseph Watson has pointed out, foreigners have been influencing our elections and we have been influencing foreign elections for many, many years…

Isn’t it funny how all you democrats who cry over foreign influence had no objection whatsoever to Saudi Arabia bankrolling Hillary’s campaign. You had no problem taking all that George Soros money, did you? You had no problem with the Obama State Department overthrowing the government of Ukraine. You had no problem with Obama interfering in the U.K.’s referendum on leaving the EU.

But ultimately this is not about Russian interference in our election.

Rather, this is all about the elite doing whatever is necessary to stop Donald Trump.  The elite are going to fight against him every step of the way, and they are never, ever going to give up.  This is a point that I made during an interview with Alex Jones on Monday

The next key date that we need to be watching for is December 19th.

On Monday, members of the Electoral College will gather in Washington D.C. and in all 50 state capitols to cast their votes.  We know that at least one Republican elector that is supposed to be pledged to Trump will not be voting for him, and that elector claims that there are others that also will not be voting for Trump.

If 37 Republican electors can be persuaded to cast their votes for someone other than Trump, that would throw the election into the House of Representatives, and it is unclear what the House would do in that scenario.

If Trump is not stopped at the Electoral College, there is also the possibility that he could be derailed when a joint session of Congress gathers to count the Electoral votes on January 6th.

As I discussed yesterday, all it takes to force a vote on the validity of Electoral College votes is an objection in writing that is signed by at least one member of the House and one member of the Senate.  As the official website explains, if both the House and the Senate vote to approve the objection, the votes covered by the objection are not counted…

Since 1887, 3 U.S.C. 15 sets the method for objections to electoral votes. During the Joint Session, Members of Congress may object to individual electoral votes or to state returns as a whole. An objection must be declared in writing and signed by at least one Representative and one Senator. In the case of an objection, the Joint Session recesses and each chamber considers the objection separately in a session which cannot last more than two hours with each Member speaking for no more than five minutes. After each house votes on whether or not to accept the objection, the Joint Session reconvenes and both chambers disclose their decisions. If they agree to the objection, the votes in question are not counted. If either chamber does not agree with the objection, the votes are counted.

In both the Senate and the House, there are anti-Trump Republicans that would absolutely cherish the opportunity to deny him the presidency.

I don’t know if it will happen, but this Russian interference issue is the kind of thing that could be used to justify taking this kind of action.

Of course if the election was stolen from Donald Trump that would likely throw the entire nation into a state of chaos, but I think that at this point the elite would be willing to risk just about anything to keep Donald Trump out of the White House.

  • BS1986

    Get ready if they steal this from Trump all hell will break loose.

    • Mike Smithy

      Trump will not be denied the oath of office. However, this charade is all about laying the ground work for de-legitimizing a Trump presidency. If Trump is serious about draining the swamp, he should start with the CIA.

      • SnodtBlossom

        Impeach President PigBastard T.Rump!!!

        • Mike Smithy

          No way, Trump’s my boy.

        • Richard O. Mann

          You can’t impeach until he is sworn in. Until then, there really is nothing that can be done. Have a Xanax and a glass of white wine there Snodt. Mellow you right out. Take the edge off. It’s all just rock and roll anyhow.

          • SnodtBlossom

            I’m a coffee drinker.. not a pill popper like you old man..

        • GSOB

          Do you realize?
          You have the most beautiful

          • SnodtBlossom

            I’m definitely prettier than Bill from Wilmington

          • GSOB

            Have not seen him lately.

          • SnodtBlossom

            He had some comment towards the top the last blog or so.. recent

          • GSOB

            Acts 2:40

        • CensoredSpeech✓ᴰᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

          Impeach SnotBlossom!

        • Julie Forrest

          Your president!!

      • GSOB

        Judges 7:22

        1 Samuel 14:20

        2 Chronicles 20:23
        Ezekiel 38:21
        Isaiah 19:2

        Haggai 2:22

        • Julie Forrest

          Yes He does! And when God drains the swamp everyone will see and know it just like biblical times!

      • BS1986


      • Jean

        I wish i had your confidence. This is a real possibility.

      • MattS123

        Nobody should ever trust the CIA. All they are really is propagandists. Their job is to feed everyone lies and try to disrupt everything.

      • tnetcenter

        Start with the CIA, the FBI, the DoJ, then the DIA! DE-CORRUPT the intelligence and law enforcement wings and then sich them on the DNC and the Clinton Campaign


      • Eileen Kuch

        You’re 100% correct, Mike. Trump won’t be denied the Oath of Office, but this charade is all about laying the groundwork for de-legitimizing a Trump presidency. I agree. If Trump’s serious about draining the swamp, he should start with the CIA. It’s the CIA that hacked this election and, now, it’s trying to cover its tracks by blaming its Russian counterpart.

      • Spiritof76Revisited

        Those of us who supported Trump and still do, could care less what they do. The left is the scum of the earth, and needs to be put in mental institutions. They are sick people.

      • Robert49 ✓Trump 2016

        That is in fact going to happen. Notice that President Elect Trump has nominated all Veteran military men to head up all the intelligence agencies. All of his picks are in the know to the extreme of the phsy-op tricks trying to be pulled and problem for the powers trying to steal it from Trump do not have the backing of the local, state or federal law enforcement agencies not the loyalty of the US military. Think that’s why all these hundreds of US military Generals and Admirals, local, state and federal law enforcement agencies started endorsing Donald Trump from the outset of his campaign.

    • Paul Patriot

      And what may that look like? Are patriots going to hit the streets, and start rallying, protesting? That is what should happen, but, it seems noons has enough guts or unity to actually do that. Only the liberal, left hoits the streets and riots.

      I think as a nation, those who love freedom, have not yet collectively arrived at the point where liberty is the most important thing, and we are willing to lose everything to preserve it.

      If/when we arrive at the point where millions of citizens are willing to lose everything, (even their lives) to preserve/restore liberty, then, things may happen….until then it will be apathy and normalcy bias as usual.

      • Occupational Therapist Thomas

        First of all let me say there’s almost a zero % chance anything is going to be taken from Trump. If it is, however, then hell yes there’s going to be riots. Could even become a civil war. But rest assured, it’s over. Trump won.

        • fnd111

          You are correct. There is one thing these filthy elites fear more than Trump: political instability. All just a lot of white noise. +FD

          • MattS123

            Obama would love a huge war right now. Then he’d say he can’t leave office and become King Obama.

        • JC Teecher

          Agreed! Why do you think all these retired Military are in high positions within the new administration?

          Because any attempt at such a ludicrous theft of the potus position would come down to a “military coup”.

          Most of the Generals hate the muzzie commie coddling liberals like billery and odrama, so it would not be such a stretch.
          If these kind of traitors had been around in the 1800’s they would have been “stretching” the end of a rope, at the hands of the Patriots.
          Just sayin’, because it is my 1st Amendment Right, and one that many of my former relatives shed blood, sweat, and tears to defend.

          • Rick

            Hypothetically I could think of about 500 members of congress, 6 or 7 Supreme Court justices, and a president and Vice President who would qualify for that rope based on the crimes they’ve committed against our country. You could also throw in some heads of government agencies for good measure.

          • shpazhist

            We gotta do a list of them and the entire world needs to know who are all these traitors are. To start with:

            House of Representatives:

            – Paul Ryan

            – Nancy Pelosi


            – Tim Kaine

            – John McCain

            – Rob Portman -R (just passed HR6393, censorship Act)

            – Chris Murphy -D (just passed HR6393, censorship Act)

            Top bureaucrats:

            – John Brennan – CIA

            – James Comey – FBI

            Top Lobbyists:

            – John Podesta

            Top Cronies/oligarchs:

            – George Soros

            – Warren Buffett

            – Mark Zuckerberg/Sheryl Sandberg


            – Barack Obama

            – Joe Biden

            – Mitt Romney


          • Rick

            You’ve got a great list there, but I’d probably throw in about 70 more senators, and 300 more from the House. As well as some from SCOTUS. Remember, not all have been public in their complicity, but are just as guilty by their votes.

          • Raymond Chow

            i would include all Democrats regardless of who they are. I always believe in the Air Force Ofiicer code that says “Thou shall not LIE, CHEAT or STEAL nor TOLERATE THOSE AMONG US WHO DO”.

          • Pat Enery

            And those heads should be dual citizens. The Israeli kind. Where does anyone suppose their loyalties lie?

          • Eileen Kuch

            Certainly, not the US, Pat. There are a few in both Houses of Congress, as well as 4 justices of SCOTUS.

        • Rick

          I’d go so far as to say there will be civil war if Trump does not take office. And it won’t be civil war as we knew of it some 150 years ago, but one where we Americans will be fighting the insurrection from within. Those scum satanists that have come to impose their terror on us. Well, we won’t be moved or intimidated.

          • GSOB

            US intelligence is to smart to allow itself to be drawn into a civil war.

            Ironically, all of this is to convince everyone that their vote matters.

          • Pat Enery

            Go for the dual Israeli citizens first. If you kill the head, all else will die. Then end their bank, the Fed.

          • Eileen Kuch

            Exactly, Pat. One must go for the dual Israeli citizens first. If you kill the head, all else will certainly die. Then end their bank, the so-called “Fed”.
            Anyway, the US Constitution forbids dual citizens from holding public office, whether elected or unelected; thus. every single dual citizen in office must be removed.

        • GSOB


      • watchmannonthewall

        Pharaoh took Sari, Abraham’s bride and put her in his harem. Egypt took Israel, God’s bride, and put her into slavery. At the time of the end, God’s people are being hunted down by the entire world.
        At the end of all three exmples mentioned, God delivered or delivers His people after they are given “gifts” from those who oppressed them. Whatever happened to the Fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, will also happen to the children!
        What we are seeing is the final confrontation being set up between those who live by God’s Word and those who don’t.
        “The wicked strut about on every side, when vileness is exalted among the sons of men.” (Ps 12:8)
        “A senseless man has no knowledge; and a stupid man does not understand this; that when the wicked sprouted up as like grass, and all who did iniquity flourished, it was only that they might be destroyed forevermore. (Ps 92:6-7)
        The final time the vile and wicked spring up is just before the return of Messiah! We are living in such days! Thing are going to get worse during the birth pains of the Kingdom!

      • Tobias J

        It would be all tracked on social media.

      • BS1986

        Civil wars start slow(Yugoslavia is an example) BUT when the situation is right it doesn’t take much. Honestly with as angry as people are, and divided as they are-combine that with a Currency/Economic crisis and you could see the spark that sets it off.

    • CensoredSpeech✓ᴰᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

      All Hell, times a thousand, if the “Establishment” tries to “repudiate” the will of “We the People”! They had better prepare to bend over and kiss their @$$es goodbye if they go through with their plans!

      • jakartaman

        The military and law enforcement will be on the side of the American voters

        • Tobias J

          It would be crippled by those holding the keys to the IT systems used by the military.

        • Pat Enery

          You better hope so because the cops nationwide are killing innocent civilians now.

        • Scott Todd

          What makes you so sure? Obama got rid of all the patriot generals in the military.

      • BS1986

        I hope.

      • andywade

        2.8 million more people voted for Hillary. The will of the people seems pretty clear to me.

        • Pat Enery

          That’s how many have no moral compass. Like her.

        • Bill

          That number is BEFORE they take out the Illegals that voted, or are you saying that NONE voted for her??
          why don’t you hear them talking about that part of “stealing the
          election”?? while your at it check on the DEAD people that
          voted and ALWAYS do because your Pres and AT wouldn’t LET their names
          be stricken from the voting records!! oh but no one’s talking about
          such things, Maybe if the CIA and such would focus on the actual
          Illegal Voting going on in CA, NY and her big win states then they’d
          have a legitimate beef, but NO its always ONE SIDED, lets be clear
          here NOBODY is denying the TRUTH of the Leaked emails that were
          supposed to have kept Hillary from winning the election, there just
          Pissed off that the American Public found out the TRUTH about HER and
          her cronies, that’s all, so in short They didn’t want WE THE PEOPLE
          to actually KNOW the REAL candidate and what she’s said and done,

        • Brian Coy

          If it is 2.8 Mil as you say then there were at least 6.2 Illegal votes

          • andywade

            How does one cast .2 of an illegal vote?


      Now its the time to buy an RPG 🙂

      • BS1986

        I agree.

    • Jeh Charles II

      BS1986, please explain what actions you would take and who they would be directed towards and what your goal would be.

      • Richard Dorfman

        First I would shoot you in the face and then anally rape your fat pig wife to death and then nail your retarded kids heads to the floor. How’s that for an action F’ing LIBTARD.

      • BS1986

        OK, SURE, Mr. DHS/FBI/NSA plant to get me to incriminate myself let me tell you what I plan to do….I plan to keep having intercourse with federal agents wives while their husbands are away persecuting American Citizens and violating the US Constitution.

      • Pat Enery

        Here’s a thought. If you believe in the democrat/republican paradigm, you are already lost. Both are controlled by their paymasters. The idea is to create the appearance of sides, both of whom are controlled by the same people. You have no choice in this setup. A more realistic choice is to figure out who controls them & eliminate that group. There is more than enough info as to who these people are. That is the reason they are seeking to take over the Internet & censor real info. The campaign against “fake” news. We are at the tipping point. Restore the Constitutional Republic & our national sovereignty. Hitler did it for 7 years before the same group turned the world against him. Our numbers are much larger. That is why they seek to divide us by any & all means possible. Does illegal immigration, LGBT rights, militarizing the police, & all the rest make sense now?

    • GSOB

      There the Lord told him, “Divide them into two groups decided by the way they drink.

      • BS1986

        Civil wars generally involve to disagreeing groups.

    • GSOB

      Joshua 23:10-11

      • BS1986

        Arsenal SLR-107FR……..

    • ISA41:10

      Liberals are NOTHING but Liars and Criminals

      • BS1986


    • Horiboyable .

      Someone strike Mike Moore first. That guys is evil.

      • BS1986

        I want to make him run on a treadmill till his legs break.

    • yep

      if this happens, the people should get together and hunt down clinton, the head of the CIA, the head of the FBI, and obama , the people do not want a ww3, but if we go to a ww3 situation , hunt these people down, and point your guns at those that take away your loved one from you…period

      • BS1986

        HA the Russians will do it for us-they tend to be very thorough.

    • Nick

      I’m not sure how “all hell will break loose”. Perhaps you can tell me who will lead the charge? Where do we go when hell breaks loose? Will we have leaders, or as typically is the case the same people who tell us they will rise up just stay at home and whimper?
      We’re kidding ourselves if we think anyone other than those paid by the likes of Soros to cause disruption will do anything other than complain.
      Our Founders were both highly educated in the course of history they were astute in their engineering of a Constitution that recognized that it was the body of the People who had the authority “to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections, and repel Invasions”.
      There is no other force recognized in the rule of law.

      • BS1986

        Timothy McVeigh……..
        ALl hell will break loose. The people who voted in Trump feel ignored and exploited, if somehow they were to deny these people the election they would have no choice but to use violence to air out their grievances.

        • Nick

          I asked specific questions, and pointed to a specific part of the Constitution.
          Perhaps someone can be more specific in answering the questions before this country turns into a real mess.

          • BS1986

            HAHA you know what I think is funny is you forget that in Civil Wars people don’t care about rules, laws or Constitutions-its War.
            HAHAHAHA do you think our Q&A session is going to save America from is already in the cards?
            Don’t wet yourself Nick, you have no say in this much like me-you can simply prepare and hope for the best.

          • Nick

            You know what’s not funny? Lots of dead and dying people, and that’s what we’re heading for.
            I’m a veteran, and one of the first things I learned from my drill instructor was that his job was to get me home safe. So we prepared. We knew what the chain of command was. We knew what our jobs were. We knew that we didn’t hope for the best, but rather we worked to make it so.
            Listen, the point I was making, although it seems to be lost on the fact that the modern American has a reading comprehension level of a fig, is that you use the specifically set out rules that were designed to prevent the mess we’ve gotten ourselves in to. Those rules were set by men who were well schooled in the lessons of history.
            You haven’t got the smarts to contemplate what I asked so what makes you think that you, or most of those like you will last 5 minutes if all hell brakes loose.

          • BS1986

            OK YOU cant control the lots of dead and dying people. People die. It is an unfortunate side effect of life that at some point it must end. Dwelling on that little tidbit wont get you anywhere there boot.

            The “rules” have been ignored for the last 50 years and in the last 10-12 have been especially ignored-SOOOO if you think that will miraculously save you keep dreaming. They have no intention of saving you-SORRY to burst your bubble. I’m convinced the powers that be want it to fail, want America to suffer, so they can try to rebuild it in their own controlling way. Hate to burst your bubble but you will have to shed blood to maintain your freedom before all of this is over-so toughen up chief.
            My SOI instructor taught me something too in war ALOT of trash gets taken out-trick is not to get taken out with it. I have lasted a lot more than 5 minutes in several war zones so save the insults for some civilian.

          • Nick

            I have no clue as to who you are addressing with your comments. Perhaps you should re-read what I wrote.

          • BS1986

            You wrote me dummy.

          • Nick

            The question was prompted by the fact that you were certainly not addressing what I wrote. Perhaps the issue is that you have a reading comprehension level quite sub-par.

          • BS1986

            Perhaps you ability to write a question that makes sense is lagging? Perhaps your skinny jeans and a safe space will save you?
            Perhaps your balls have fallen off and a vagina appeared?
            Perhaps one day your spine will straiten, your voice will deepen, and you too can wear normal jeans…….????

    • MargfromTassie

      Well the Electoral College voted for Chump, so you fear mongers and paranoids were wrong – again.

      • BS1986

        They got the hint when they threatened too vote against us.
        Hil-da-beasts own people turned their back on her though……..

  • w

    Are you serious ? like APAC has never tried to shape elections in USA ??????

  • David

    this is horsecrap! if the American people let our Government do this to us they will allow them to do anything to us. This CIA investigation into russia’s hacking is ludicrous!

    The late Friday news published by both the Washington Post and New
    York Times claims that a secret C.I.A. assessment has confirmed that
    Russia not only meddled in the U.S. election but directly did so in
    order to help Trump win the presidency.

    The reports, completely based on the claims of unnamed U.S. officials
    and therefore almost impossible to confirm or debunk, have set off a
    firestorm in the corporate media and have led to a direct call by a left
    leaning C.I.A. agent for a second election.

    Appearing on the openly anti-Trump cable news network CNN, “former”
    C.I.A. agent Bob Baer called for a second Presidential election. His
    reasoning? The unproven claims
    by unnamed U.S. officials that the C.I.A. has concluded that the
    election was tampered with by Russia. (It’s important to note here that
    the FBI does not believe this to be the case.)
    and this is the same wonderful Intelligence agency that told us about Saddam Hussein possessing WMD’S in Iraq!
    they have no credibility whatsoever anymore and they are trying to shove this down our throats.
    I think we are in for a very bumpy ride come 2017.
    BS1986 is spot on, all hell will break loose should the left push this Turd on the American people.

    • fnd111

      Isn’t that guy Baer the one running around South America looking for Hitler on one of those reality TeeVee shows? What a creep this guy is. +FD

    • Nam Marine

      SCREW THE C.I.A. !

  • rentslave

    Wait until Arpaio lays out his case against Obama Thursday afternoon.

  • barry oldwater

    They know the consequences to what they conspire, and it won’t be good, is this what the government has been preparing for?

    • kinarow1

      Maybe that’s why every federal agency has been stockpiling ammo – over 1B bullets.

      • Rusty Nale

        The American gun owners have much, much more.

  • barry oldwater

    Russians swayed the election by exposing the nefarious things Hillary and the Democrats do or did, and for that she deserves to be president, who thinks like that?

    • GSOB

      Its all about ideas anyways.

  • Hamish

    It’s just a distraction to get people all up in arms as if their Republican “messiah” Trump has real enemies within the establishment when truth be told he IS the establishment. Just like Obama campaigned on “hope” and “change” Trump has done the same, but for the Republican side of the coin. And like Obama he’s not going to do anything substantial to effect real change in changing the status quo. He was a stooge for Clinton and now he’s a stooge for the same people behind Clinton that his hoodwinked voters believed he was going to work against. Nothing is going to happen between now and inauguration day.

    • Sentient


    • jox

      Nonsense. Have you actually read the article?

    • Nam Marine

      HAMSANDWICH you are full of Obama !

  • billtheguy

    This all started in 1963 when Kennedy was shot. The Government got away with it and have been doing it ever since. The Government saw how easy it was, and continued with it. Another false flag if that is the appropriate term.

    • Pat Enery

      Partially true. Lincoln & his reconvening congress under martial law to supplant the original !3th Amendment & waging war against the secessionist states laid the groundwork for the infiltration of our government by a foreign entity. The same entity today headed by the banking system. Remember, Lincoln was a lawyer first & knew the Constitution. That means it was deliberate. That makes him a criminal traitor. When he tried to right the wrong by printing greenback dollars to finance the war, they shot him. BTW, this resulted in the 2nd “version” of the 13th amendment & the dubious 14th amendment a few years later. History hidden but factually true.

  • Paul Vosper

    What a F..ked up country the usa is , nothing real, in this fake back stabbing killing place they call freedom ,never was and never will BE !!!!!!!!!!!!! ……….

  • mister_roboto

    I’m pretty sure there won’t be a second election. The electorate would not respond well to coastal elites trying to get them to vote the way these elites would have them vote.

    • Seabass120

      Agreed but a second election would give them another chance to change the results.

      • GSOB

        I’m sure you meant change the diaper.

    • andywade

      Too late. Clinton is already 2.8 million votes ahead. Your boy Trumpski’s only in on a technicality… And because of various Jim Crowe laws keeping black people from voting in key marginals.

      • mister_roboto

        I have no emotional investment in either candidate. In fact, the discrepancy between exit-polls and the actual results of the election suggests to me that some cheating in counting the votes took place in order to hand Trump his EC victory. I’ve long thought that we really should replace our national patchwork of different voting-systems with a single, transparent, easily-audited, paper-ballot system. But I know it won’t happen anymore than will campaign finance reform because our corrupt and oligarchic political class likes our current dysfunctional system the way it is, screw you very much. 🙂

  • chriscas

    Soros and the Dems must be called out on his malicious mischief and stopped! Trump is going to have to go on the offensive on all of this nonsense.

    • alan

      I think with loads of Soros money they will attempt to swing the vote. I suspect if they can’t clearly get him out they will say we’ll let you win but here’s what you can and can’t do., first thing on the list will be no draining the swamp.

  • Rey

    Civil War is a very real possibility here. And make no mistake about it, the majority of the U.S. military will side with Trump. Did you see the way they revered him at the Army-Navy game? This new Civil War will make the one in the 1800’s look like a cake walk.

    • Rick

      I agree, but who would the military be shooting at? You know the cowardly cockroache progressive libs wouldn’t show up for a fight. We all dress the same, eat the same, do many of the same things. The only way it would work would be for the military to go grab the Clinton’s, Obama’s, majority of those in Congress, and the SCOTUS, and drag them out into the streets to be tried. That might just send a powerful message.

    • Mary Kotomski

      The scary part about your comment, is that we didn’t have nukes in the 1860’s.

  • Black

    You bible thumping whackos really are hoping for the end of the world

    • Duke Claymoor

      Push us MF’er

    • jox

      What age are you? I mean, mental age?

  • Duke Claymoor

    Start with all local gov’t and any L.E. supporting them and keep moving up the food chain.

  • William

    The elites are not even slightly concerned about riots, or Trump supporters clamoring in the streets, or anything at all that will happen if they steel the election from him.

    They have called the shots, been in control, blinded the masses with false propaganda for so long they simply cannot image that they have lost and they wI’ll do anything they can to stay in power.


      that’s right , when you hear the sound of a Predator drone it’s already too late

    • Jason

      i guess they are not concerned about riots. The DHS bought enough bullets to kill every single person multiple times over.

  • K

    This is classic CIA. This is how they fix elections in other Countries. Ask yourself a question. When was the last time the CIA. Confirmed the existence of a secret document of any kind? In short, they say a document exists. The document says the Russians interfered with the election. Oh, but by the way, you can not see it. Why, because it is a secret document. Who authorised them to divulge the contents of a secret document? The CIA lies, and manipulates for a living .If the American people buy into this. they get what they deserve.

    • K

      Office of the Director of National Intelligence, while not contesting CIA assessment. Does not embrace CIA conclusion. Evidence inconclusive. per Drudge

    • Suzie R

      The American people aren’t buying into anything. We had our say November 8. Now, our only “voice”… Donald Trump… who was duly elected by the overwhelming majority (factoring in the massive dem fraud) is in the hands of the power elite. Hell… there are only a small percentage of Americans who seek true news and will take the time to find it. Most… even Trump supporters… are in the dark. In a sense, we will get what we deserve, as we have traded freedom for false security and false prosperity… both of which will come crashing down on our heads shortly. One more thing and the most important reason we will get what we deserve… “The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all nations that forget GOD.” Psalm 9:17

      • K

        Well said.

    • Bill

      Could the cia still be behind a “bush”?

  • Mr.Conservative

    Why aren’t the liberals bitching and griping about hillary clintons campaign manager john podesta having direct ties to Russia. Remember he’s the one that negotiated the uranium deal with Putin. It was the bank that he is associated with that handled the money transfer. If Russia was going to intervene in this election it would be on the behalf of clinton. It was her and obama that gave them the reset button, it was obama that told them he would have more lead-way after the election of 2012. Russia was doing great with a liberal administration. Who was it that removed the missile defence system from the baltic right after he came into office. The Russians didn’t help Trump.

    • JC Teecher

      Why? Because it is the liberals operatus morandi to lie and confuse the ignorant with the ole double standard.
      They had a pretty good run going with that m.o. until the ole jezebel for potus, they chose, got caught with her hand in the proverbial cookie jar.

  • Jill

    I suppose this makes for a fun fantasy, but deep down I believe everyone knows it to be hand-wringing and supposition. For better or worse, Trump will definitely be the next President.

  • Mr.Cipher

    The clintons could have bowed out with a small sliver of dignity in tact. Accepted responsibility for the loss with grace. But they chose the low road. The only road they know.


      dignity and the Clintons will never happen , don’t be deplorable

  • Tim Francis

    This is a Coup attempt, or as the CIA calls it a Junta attempt and it is being orchestrated by the CIA and the Democrats. A revolt against the American System?

  • JC Teecher

    The bottom line is…..”Liberals LIE!”.
    They would rather climb a tree backwards, than to tell the truth.
    Their leader is soon coming to this world to play to their lies and sadly to those of the church that teach/preach, and follow the pre-trib lie.
    They want it so badly, they will be duped into believing that the old Dragon is the Angel of Light, the Morning Star, and will follow him right up to the gates of hell, and the last/Seventh Trump, when all are changed into their spirit bodies. Some with an incorruptible soul, but sadly, most with one that is “still” liable to die.

    Thank God for the Millennium, so the truth can be taught without hangups of the flesh interfering.

    • GSOB

      The Messianic kingdom is prior to the Second Coming.

  • David

    I remember after the 3rd debate how they said Trump was “dangerous!” if he didn’t accept the outcome of this election & how we all need to unite & move on regardless who wins. why is it the left lost & are now having a temper tantrum and they are eating their own words in regards to accepting the outcome of this election, uniting & moving on?

    • American Gentleman

      Because…functional psychopaths

  • jakartaman

    There are many of us Tump voters that will be very very unhappy.
    My guess is that there would be an armed insurrection and armed march on Washington DC.
    Ther is no way – The establishment, the liberal progressives. the MSM, Hollywood, and the elite educators will steal this election from the American people. This activity is EXACTLY why our forefathers gave us the 2nd amendment. If they try this i will go on record that it will be used with extreme prejudice.

  • David

    what is disturbing is our Government stealing the election
    from Trump and calling the election “illegitimate” because of so
    called CIA evidence the CIA refuses to share with the American people because
    it’s “Classified” BS!! also officials within the CIA that have
    discovered this Evidence of hacking into the DNC refuse to attach their names
    to their findings! we the American people are just going to have to believe
    them and this debate about evidence is no longer up for debate is their
    attitude about the whole thing.

    this is the same agency that proclaimed Saddam Hussein’s WMD’S in Iraq that to
    this day was never found. The CIA has forgotten that they have lost all
    credibility with the American public. Try to force another election on the
    American people

    and watch blood run through our streets. they can take that to the bank &
    cash it!!


    WARNING WARNING: this may be a FAKE news site , please only use reliable news sources such as CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times or Time Magazine for the actual TRUTH, this is a public service announcement brought to you by the Clinton and George Soros Foundations

  • PedoKilla

    Sorry Michael. You lost all credibility when you appeared on InfoWars. Alex F’in Jones? Seriously?

    • HeyAHuman

      He’s been affiliated with Jones and InfoWars for a long time. Your surprise is pretty odd.

    • American Gentleman

      It would have been better if he went on a real channel like CNN.

  • RedPillPlease

    On December 19th, the state electors will meet in Washington DC and elect Donald Trump as the 45th president. Come January 20th, he will be sworn into office. Enough with the Fake News and noise offering credibility to the Clinton team in their attempts to undermine the CIA and lobby the state electors to overturn the will of the people. Ain’t gonna happen!! Geesh!

  • Yep you nailed it Mr.Snyder. November 30, 2016 Jill Stein’s Vote-Recounts Aim for a Hillary Clinton Victory

    Prior to the U.S. election, Hillary Clinton’s campaign, and the Obama White House, were saying that Russia’s President Vladimir Putin was aiming to make Americans distrust the results of the November election. Of course, at that time, Clinton was considered almost certain to win.

  • James Johnson

    Anyone remember obama trying to influence the election by telling illegal aliens to go vote and not to worry about being deported if they did? Maybe there should be an investigation of him.

    • Pat Enery

      Some people can’t see what is directly in front of them.

  • I can tell you from all around my neighborhood, if Trump is denied the presidency for any reason, there will be a general uprising the likes of which few have seen. Mass demonstrations will occur in almost every city and town and will not stop until the wrong has been put right as it inevitably will when the people clearly see who the enemy really is.

  • Nam Marine

    What a crock of bull ! They (Demoncrats) are just sore losers !

  • These psychopaths are still supplying arms to their proxy terrorists despite congressional resolutions. The Establishment are getting very desperate now. And at the higher tiers of control this is merely the start of final phase in the disintegration of America. Let’s hope things don’t go as planned…

    • American Gentleman

      Interesting thoughts.

  • Seen2013

    “Donald Trump could have the election legally stolen from him on either
    December 19th when the Electoral College casts their votes or (on January
    6th when a joint session of Congress gathers to count those votes).”

    The State’s EC elector’s vote is determined by State powers in which the majority ties their elector’s votes to their State’s popular vote.
    This is why some electors’ are challenging State’s powers in Federal court where the Federal government short of a candidate acquiring 270 EC votes possesses no delegated powers from the States.
    This makes January 6th the primary date to watch.

    “The establishment absolutely hates Trump and wants to find a way to keep him from taking office.”

    With who Trump is selecting/appointing, I am increasingly thinking reverse psychology. With Trump’s picking at a factor of 3 to 1 Keynesian Economists and globalization proponents (public-private merger proponents), Trump supporters better start pondering; whether, Trump is being leveraged by political expediency or was a ‘False Prophet/Firebrand’ from the get go.

    “I don’t know if it will happen, but this Russian interference issue is
    the kind of thing that could be used to justify taking this kind of

    1). It also means that altering foreign policy path trend that leads to triggering Russo-Sino military pacts expanding over 3 continents can be leveraged to continuing under a Trump administration despite War College war-game scenarios. If Trump also fails to return US military focus to conventional warfare accommodating asymmetric aka unconventional warfare components, the War College state’s the US places itself into a disturbing lose-lose proposition.
    I don’t know about anyone else, but I doubt that Russia and China are bluffing.
    2). These actions simply doubles down on ultimately either leveraging a Trump administration to continue British styled free trade agreements that led to the genocide of the Potato Famine, or it will increase support to the Constitutional Convention that like opening a union contract enables a major rewrite of the Constitution or even grant another justification for secession such as California’s secession movement or the 50k petition signers in Alaska to return Alaska to Russia.

    No, I’m not swayed by the argument ‘keep your friends close, your enemies closer’ and ‘the enemy of my enemy is my friend’ requires ignoring that the source was stabbed in the back. Quite literally if memory serves.

    • alan

      I think if it ends up a tie, they may let Trump win but under the condition he doesn’t drain the swamp. He has picked a lot of ex-military in his cabinet. I am thinking this is protection. My guess is by January 22 we won’t remember what was going on in December.

      • Seen2013

        -Military Politicians do exist, and they tend to be strategic and tactic incompetent via their emphasis on political impact rather than focus on strategy and tactics…
        Eisenhower was one of the few competent military politicians who understood how to balance strategy and tactics with political impact… Patton was hardly a military politician.

        -Trump selecting/appointing public-private merger advocates by a factor of 3 to 1 in opposition states Trump isn’t just open to not draining the swamp that the swamp is going to get bigger given public-private mergers are the aspiration foundation of Plutocracy public-private partnerships foundation of Kleptocracy strives to become.
        Plutocracy makes the pinnacle of Progressive Government possible…

  • Chris utter

    good god we all hope trump is denied office. Dangerous and ignorant trump would ensure then end of the USA

    • GSOB

      God is merciful and kind. He is good.

      • Gay Veteran

        your “god” ordered the murder of children and babies

        • GSOB

          Laws of warfare.

          Deuteronomy 20:17-18

          But you shall utterly destroy them, the Hittite and the Amorite, the Canaanite and the Perizzite, the Hivite and the Jebusite, as the LORD your God has commanded you,


          ……….so that they may not teach you to
          do according to all their detestable things which they have done for their gods, so that you would sin against the LORD your God.

          • Gay Veteran

            hey Einstein, how do little children and babies “teach you to
            do according to all their detestable things which they have done for their gods”?

  • Mike Smithy

    That theory is very plausible.

  • Richard O. Mann

    Trump has made it this far with ever thing being against him. I was amazed that he was elected president and thought that Hillary already had the fix in to be elected. Apparently, so did the Dem. They, and I, were wrong. I did not vote for Hillary simply because of what I know about her. That being said, we just have to wait and see what happens with this made up false news the Dems and leftest are pushing. Like many other things this election season, it may just blow up in their face, and make them look even more stupid than what they already do.

  • Liberty First

    The good news here, the silver lining, is that Trump will hate the Establishment so much after all of this that he will not think twice about savaging their sacred cows.

  • mtntrek3

    The elite want to get us fighting one another …… any way they can. They don’t want civility, period. They’re looking for things to help bring about martial law. Divide and conquer, ….”out of chaos comes order”.

  • Mark

    Few seem to get it. Trump cannot be robbed of the Presidency, period. God SAID, through His true Prophets, beginning 5 years ago that Trump would be president. Any human who thought they could stop him from becoming President and or take it from him is sadly mistaken. They are fighting against God Himself. End of story.

  • GSOB

    Hey preppers, Hebrews 11:7

    • watchmannonthewall

      Great verse! By Noah listening to God and being obedient, he prepared a place of safety for his family and “condemned” the world. How did he “condemn” the world? By being obedient to God’s Word! Perhaps we should do the same! Live like you are in the next world now!! We will be soon enough, might as well practice here!

      • GSOB

        Genesis 22:18

    • mtntrek3

      God’s Word is our Ark. Yes.

      • GSOB

        Yes, even better yet, the Holy Word is a sure guide to eternal life.
        Christ the Spirit is our ark today, for He is God’s gift of salvation to us.

        • mtntrek3

          Amen. Our ways are fallible. God is our sure thing. When our ways fail us, we can take comfort in God that He won’t ever fail us. He’s greater than our sins. Saying this very thankfully……. .

          • GSOB

            Yes and real thankfulness leads to gratitude and true worship.

            1 Samuel 12:24
            John 4:23

            Ephesians 1:6
            Philippians 3:3

          • mtntrek3

            Yes, true. Thanks for the Scripture. The wheat being separated from the chaff is beginning and will continue. Personally, I tremble at the Word of God. If one really considers the Word as we all should (me first) …. I mean really think about It. Whew. Wow. God is Great. I am sincerely hoping as many as can are found in Christ. This forgiven sinner is clinging to faith in our God through Jesus and hoping the same for all others of our sisters and brothers. Hoping for as many as can to come to know Him as well. God Bless. Take care GSOB. Chris.

          • GSOB

            Genesis 2:7

          • mtntrek3

            Again, thanks and God Bless GSOB. Looked up the Scripture you referred me to. In the near future more than ever according to the Word…. we (as humanity) will either draw closer to God, or depart from Him. I for one can’t imagine what we will go through as God’s own if we are still alive in the body when times get exceedingly bad. Yet, as horrible as that may be…… it doesn’t compare in any way to the everlasting punishment for the ones that leave the faith/or never have faith in God. God first as we know already brother. 🙂 Take care, God Bless again. Chris.

          • GSOB

            John 20:22

          • mtntrek3

            Yes, we were born….. then born again through His Holy Spirit. Both I’m grateful for…. the rebirth through Jesus most importantly. : ) .

          • mtntrek3

            Guess my first response didn’t go through. Anyway, yes…. we’re born into this world, then the most important thing is our rebirth through His Holy Spirit. Thankful for both…. , the latter the most. : ) .

  • GetReal4U2

    It’s not happening…but then again…who knows in this election…I’m more afraid of a war with Russia BEFORE Trump gets into office…freaky things are converging at the same time…we truly live in the last days and time is short…before everything as we knew it changes forever…
    Peace to all those who frequent this site…it’s not by coincidence…

    • mtntrek3

      Aren’t we all concerned as to what is happening in the world. It’s getting to the point we can’t have a civil discussion about pertinent things that are happening. God is the go to for our information concerning future world events imho. Times are tough and are to become worse. We need our faith in God now more than ever.

  • none

    I think you missed the real story in this article!
    The emphasis should have been on Nancy Pelosis daughter Christine.
    And Hillararies daughter Chelsea.
    Both working very hard, to help out there mothers. Working late into the night, leaving together. With there shoulders pushed up to eachother!
    Parking their cars, next to eachother. Leaving the same exit, together…. The two C’s.
    Like mother like daughter! What a wonderful story.

    • JC Teecher

      There is nothing new under the Sun, according to God’s Word……so; when the Queen of Evil, Jezebel, was thrown to be eaten by the dogs, her evil/demonic power was double portioned to her daughter (grand daughter), Athalia.

      So evil that she killed off all her relatives in order to hold on to her power of the throne of Israel.

      Evil begats evil, and fruit don’t fall far from the tree. What goes around with the evilness of Pelosi and Hitlery, comes back around with the two C’s.

      • GSOB

        2 Chronicles

      • Pat Enery

        This would be a fitting end for Christine & Chelsea.

    • Lazarovic

      Fantasizing? Weirdo. Creep. Degenerate.

    • Pat Enery

      Their behavior may not be tolerated by a Trump presidency. The possibility of displaying it for 30 odd years is sickening.

  • bobbi

    Russia would be pulling for Hillary since she sold them all of that uranium.

    • Seen2013

      Russia and China pull for Progressive Democratic-Republican Party aka Uniparty.

  • riftcliff

    if you are speaking about rigging…elections, why not start with Hillary vs Sanders? Make actions to show her essential dirtiness and make sure she is out of that option. I can not believe many of you believe the fake Russian factor.

  • Tobias J

    Trump had some anti-establishment appeal but he was never going to be the solution.

    • American Gentleman

      True. But it’s interesting the steps they are taking against him.

  • mtntrek3

    My conversations with others on-line on certain websites about Trump seem to go about as well as those with my immediate family. I say give him a chance. He’s our next President. All the while watching, hoping for better. Faith in God first.

  • Horiboyable .

    If it’s true that Russia was able to get so much access to influence the out come of the election well the CIA should be closed down for not doing their job, they must have been sleeping.
    I can’t wait to see Putin giving out cookies at the inauguration

  • Mark

    This is what George Soros and Obama are trying to do. Create chaos through this thing so Obama can declare martial law before Trump gets in. Its all part of the Elite’s plan but nothing they do will work.

  • Horiboyable .

    I am not even an American but I love reading about your founding fathers. Not only were they courageous but they were intellectual men too.
    How far the USA has fallen from its original ethos. These Ivy League clowns are more concerned about transgender toilet habits than how many USA citizens are homeless or living in their cars.

  • Priszilla

    Many people use the fear of Russia for many things. Get used to it.

    • American Gentleman


  • Bruce

    The whole idea of the PTB taking the presidency back from trump is preposterous. To say that there would be ” Chaos and hell on the streets” is a massive understatement. All businesses would close, all public transportation would cease, everyone would be unemployed and the economy as a whole would collapse in short order.
    The degree of Mayhem and Carnage that would result is NOT what any party or ideology wants. In other words NO ONE would win. It would be war on the streets. Any Military or Police who tried to quell the riots would be on a suicide mission. So NO, none of this is going to happen. Contrary to all the hype spewed forth by the various forms of media, Trump’s victory will stand be that good or bad! It is what it is!
    December 19th and January 6th will pass with no surprises and the reason is because ALL people, elite, PTB and even the general public would have too much to lose. Nothing to see here, Move along!

  • Lazarovic

    So, you traitors are on the Russians side?? Commies! Benedict Arnolds! Bunch of phony Americans!

    • Gay Veteran

      screaming “RUSSIA” is soooooooooo much easier than thinking for yourself

  • socalbeachdude

    Pro-Hillary Dark Forces Plot Anti-Trump Coup – Stephen Lendman

    It shouldn’t surprise. Since the deplorable Clinton co-presidency, America has been on a slippery slope toward full-blown tyranny – notably post-the-9/11 mother of all false flags.

    It was followed by an array of police state laws, new ones recently enacted, flagrant constitutional violations, media scoundrels silent on an unprecedented abuse of power.

    McCarthyism is back on steroids. Truth-telling is now considered fake news and/or pro-Russian. We’re perilously close to criminalizing content or advocacy for anything opposing America’s deplorable agenda, its imperial wars, its high crimes against humanity at home and abroad.

    Perhaps I and others like me are considered Kremlin agents for supporting Putin’s anti-war, anti-imperial, anti-uni-polarity agenda, a leader supporting rule of law principles and mutual cooperation among all nations.

    It’s polar opposite how America operates, a rogue state like no others earlier, threatening humanity’s survival like never before, a terrifying reality too few people realize.

    Now there’s a plot afoot to deny Trump his electoral triumph – the Clintons, their supporters and other dark forces behind it, their goal to turn America into an illegitimate putschist state like Nazi-run Ukraine, installed by Obama.

    According to Politico, Hillary’s top political advisor, John Podesta, wants an intelligence briefing on phony charges of Russian election hacking given Electoral College members before they vote on December 19. In a Monday statement, he said:

    “Electors have a solemn responsibility under the Constitution…(O)ur campaign decried the interference of Russia in our campaign and its evident goal of hurting our campaign to aid Donald Trump.”

    “Despite our protestations, this matter did not receive the attention it deserved by the media in the campaign. We now know that the CIA has determined Russia’s interference in our elections was for the purpose of electing Donald Trump. This should distress every American.”

    Reliable independent sources debunked the fabricated allegation. Not a shred of evidence supports it. None exists. Even the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) refuses to endorse it “because of a lack of conclusive evidence.” So does the FBI for the same reason.

  • American Gentleman

    The cyber thing is like a propagandist dream. Nobody can substantiate anything. Just make it up as you go along. It’s the new boogey man.

  • socalbeachdude
  • James Staten

    Recent Drudge Headline..the DHS tried hacking the State of Georgia Website 10 times says the Sec State of Ga. Jeh very vague in his response to the Georgia inquire. Tell me it ain’t so!!!!

  • Jean

    A man claiming for many years that he is visited from heaven has said neither candidate will take office and Obama wont finish his term. His name is charlie johnson. Everything to come after that is freefall.

  • socalbeachdude


    EXCLUSIVE: Ex-British ambassador who is now a WikiLeaks operative claims Russia did NOT provide Clinton emails – they were handed over to him at a D.C. park by an intermediary for ‘disgusted’ Democratic whistleblowers

    Craig Murray, former British ambassador to Uzbekistan and associate of Julian Assange, told the he flew to Washington, D.C. for emails

    He claims he had a clandestine hand-off in a wooded area near American University with one of the email sources

    The leakers’ motivation was ‘disgust at the corruption of the Clinton Foundation and the ’tilting of the primary election playing field against Bernie Sanders’

    Murray says: ‘The source had legal access to the information. The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks’

  • mister_roboto

    Another thought: I doubt the goal here is to deprive Trump of his victory. That would be too destabilizing. Rather, this would appear to be the opening volley of a campaign to undercut the legitimacy of the Trump Administration so that he can’t really build up the political power-base which he’s coming into the Oval Office sorely lacking, and so that he ends up being an unpopular one-term president. Trump’s personality will certainly do the rest of the job, IMHO.

  • bogart1

    I am sorry but I see no scenario where Trump loses short of ALL Branches of Government literally conspiring against him. The Republicans control both Houses of Congress and the House in particular is decided Republican. So even if any of these goof balls like McCain or Romney or McConnel could convince Electors to vote AGAINST their state laws through a promise of Presidential or Governor Granted Pardons the whole thing will end in the House where Trumps own party holds a decided advantage. So not only will there need to be a conspiracy among the Electors, Governors, and President, there has to be a Supreme Court part to vote in favor of the illegal vote of the Electors to keep the whole thing from going to the House.

    Now maybe Hillary could promise the entire world to these House Members but I seriously doubt it. For example if you were a House member would you value a promise of glory and perpetual elections from Hillary or would you put your trust in Trump.

    Now there is only one thing that kind of makes this all possible: That is that Trump is not known to be vindictive (Unlike the Clintons) But he demands loyalty and if stabbed in the back I am sure that very few of those with the blades in their hands will survive the next election cycle.

  • Raymond Chow

    You think some people will just sit idly by while the authoritarians appoints a president not elected by the people? There will be a civil war. We are not some unarmed banana republic.

  • Raymond Chow

    If this happens all we need is one leader to rally the people to overthrow the government. After all, it’s the duty and right of the people to get rid the government when the people can no longer thrust the government. Trump might even do it himself.

  • socalbeachdude
  • socalbeachdude

    Electoral college voters will NOT rebel against Trump they say – as they tell of desperate appeals from ‘idiots’ to oppose president-elect on Monday

    Hopes by Hillary Clinton’s last desperate holdout supporters that the electoral college will vote against Trump are dispelled by an Associated Press survey of 330 which says they will not rebel.

  • socalbeachdude

    CIA officials REFUSE to brief Congress on the truth about Russian hacking claims – and are rebuked by GOP congressman for ‘disgraceful’ move

    Members of the House Intelligence Committee are fuming that the CIA is refusing to provide an immediate briefing on Russian interference in the U.S. elections.

  • opm6065

    Where in the Constitution does it even allow for such a secretive agency? Is there an amendment? Maybe that should be what we argue now. That the CIA is unconstitutional by nature and needs to be done away with. Then that heaping pile of chickensh*t Brennan will shut up.

  • GSOB

    Postmillennialism existed long before theological liberalism arose in the late nineteenth century.

    • RedPillPlease

      The greatest problem with postmillennialism is the fact that the Bible just does not teach it. Where is a specific passage that teaches the postmillennial concept? Not a passage that they think it their best, from which they attempt to develop a postmillennial theology. I am asking for a passage that teaches the idea of postmillennialism. It is nowhere to be found in the Bible. Lack of specific biblical support is fatal to postmillennialism for any Bible believing Christian. This explains why their normal presentation approach is to first attack premillennialism and then present broad theological concepts that one must adopt as a framework with which it needs to approach biblical texts.

  • J. Bunn

    What a bunch of “Deplorable” bastards! The crybaby whiners just can’t accept that Hillary Clinton lost, and she damned sure did. I would not trust any Democrat politician.

  • democratsAREracistIDIOTS


  • socalbeachdude


    Obama’s new onslaught at Putin over hacking as FBI says it agrees with CIA – Russia stole Clinton’s emails to hand Trump the election

    President Barack Obama indicated Friday that he believes Russian President Vladimir Putin hand a hand on hacking Democratic operatives before the election. ‘Not much happens in Russia without Vladimir Putin. This is a pretty hierarchical operation,’ Obama said. He stopped shy of pointing the finger at the foreign leader outright yet said, ‘Last I checked there’s not a lot of debate and democratic deliberation, particularly when it comes to policies directed at the United States. ‘I will let you make that determination whether there are high level Russian officials who go off rogue and decide to tamper with the U.S. election process without Vladimir Putin knowing about it,’ the U.S. president stated. The CIA said this week that it believed Russia intervened to help Trump and hurt Hilary Clinton – an assessment the FBI echoed minutes before Obama’s remarks.

  • socalbeachdude
  • socalbeachdude


    Clinton mega donor George Soros leads line-up of liberal billionaires who are funding Facebook’s fake news fact checker

    George Soros, who has given more than $25million to Clinton’s campaign and charities, is among businessmen whose organizations are funding the pilot feature through grants.

  • socalbeachdude




    Podesta still bitching about FBI…

  • socalbeachdude

    How dare the NYPD investigate my Muslim hate-crime hoaxer sister’s lies: Sibling blames the cops for ‘trauma’ of scandal over made-up attack by Trump supporters

    Yasmin Seweid, 18, has been charged with falsifying a police report and obstructing governmental administration. NYPD officers investigated her story but found no evidence of it.

    She later confessed to making it up to get out of trouble for staying out late drinking with friends. On Thursday, her older sister Sara penned a furious Facebook post blaming the police and the media for her family’s ordeal. Her brother Abdoul was accused of lying to police in 2012.

  • socalbeachdude

    Trump and Obama at war: Handover turns sour as the President vows to hit back at Russia over hacking after ‘ignoring it because he thought Hillary would win’ – as Trump AGAIN dismisses the intrusion by bringing up DNC dirt

    President Barack Obama says the US must and will take action against Russia in response to cyber interference with the election, as Donald Trump and the White House again clash over hacking.

  • socalbeachdude

    Prove it or shut up, Russia tells CIA: Putin’s spokesman accuses US of being ‘extremely scurrilous’ over hacking allegations

    Russian President Vladimir Putin during an official visit to Tokyo on December 16, 2016 ©Tomohiro Ohsumi (POOL/AFP)

    The Kremlin has slammed Washington for pointing the finger at President Vladimir Putin over cyber attacks targeting the US election, telling America to either provide proof of the allegations or keep quiet.

  • socalbeachdude

    Wikileaks’ founder Julian Assange goes on the offensive over claims Russia was behind Clinton email hack, saying Kremlin is NOT its source

    Wikileaks founder has Julian Assange flatly rejected U.S. intelligence claims that his organization received leaked Clinton emails from the Russian government.

  • socalbeachdude

    Republican elector who plans to vote against Trump is a ‘9/11 faker’ whose claim to be a first responder at the Pentagon is FALSE

    Texas Republican elector Chris Suprun, 42, who says he a first responder when a hijacked plane flew into the Pentagon on 9/11. He has made false claims of being a first responder for several years, a local television station has concluded. The Dallas, Texas, resident, portrayed himself as a heroic firefighter in a heavily-publicized editorial this month for The New York Times, in which he declared he would not be voting for Trump at the Electoral College on December 19. He has claimed to be a first responder with the Manassas Park, Virginia, fire department and has made at least two appearances at Major League Baseball games where he was introduced as a 9/11 veteran and threw out the first pitch. But the Manassas Park Fire Department didn’t respond to the 2001 attacks and Suprun wasn’t hired by the department until October 2001, a month after the planes struck, WFAA discovered.

  • MattS123

    If the Demoncrats try to steal the election they better be ready for a real civil war. No way will everyone who voted for Trump just sit back and let Hillary steal the presidency. She’ll never be my President. She’s a fraud who should be rotting in prison.

  • mtntrek3

    Seriously, we had better learn to get along political leanings aside. Division will be the fall of all of us otherwise. ……… O.K., lets just go out into the streets and hack one another to death. Sounds like a plan. Riiiight. We need to learn to give and take while there is time. Common ground. Seriously.

  • mtntrek3

    We are living in the last times as prophesied in the Bible. Faith in God first and foremost. Our ways are failing us. Check it out for yourself.

  • mtntrek3

    Michael, thanks to you and your wife for all the great posts. I’m serious about this. However, our leanings politically either way should be taken with a grain of salt (or two, or three). I personally am grateful for those out here in the political world doing what they can for us sincerely.They are the exception and are desperately needed. ….. But, as you and all of us as Christians know, our ultimate faith is in Christ. Both political sides are in error in various degrees. Personally I believe our solutions can be found in between the two. My take on matters and wishing the best for all. Chris.

  • Pat Enery

    This is the real reason for their push at gun control. They KNOW what it means. Especially those dual citizens.

  • Michael

    These globalists’ are hoping to steal the voting as it tried to steal more votes than registered people that could vote! Hillary and Obama doesn’t want the Constitution to be represented truthfully as they are liars! John McCain needs to be tried for treason while in prison in Viet Nam! Just because Soros has paid untold people to riot and cause chaos that they are hoping that these few can bring about the total end of our freedoms by stealing the vote of the people that are truly registered to vote, not the 11 million illegals in this country that this imposter half breed president told them to go vote and don’t worry about anyone stopping you! DO you think those illegals were going to vote for Trump/Pence who are wanting to remove them from this country because they don’t belong and to stop giving them money to live here when out own people don’t get that kind of help from this administration? Obama and Hillary are corrupt as they come! And do you think the good and true people who voted for Trump will stand by and let this tyranny go by without a voice of our own being heard loud and clear? The silent majority has finally came to the voting polls and cast their vote to end this tyranny of these people who are the ones wanting to not let THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE be completed in Trump becoming our president who only wants good for the American people and not war with Russia that Obama and Hillary are wanting over all this fake news BS!

  • john

    Communists are evil and lying bastards from hell. I’m telling you, the only way to make them cease attacking is to build Gulag’s – incarcerate and then execute!

  • Tyronne Shoelaces

    There will be blood in the streets and it will consist of communists/democrats/leftists/liberals.

  • Brian Coy

    Not a very funny JOKE!!!

    • HeyAHuman

      I thought it was pretty funny when Hillary kept repeating that in the debates lol.

  • steve larsen

    Nothing is going to be stolen at electoral college. This story is overblown by author and others. Congress will ok a Trump presidency. The major worry is Obama seems intent on starting war with russia before inauguration this is because globalists…Soros et al and islamist supporters…..USA and UK desire it. My guess if there is war….Trump picks up phone calls putin and both agree to stop fighting.

  • Hambone

    Samurai, make no mistake, the market will crash. Of course this will not be Trump’s fault, it would have crashed even if hitlery won. It is the inevitable consequences of the so called shadow governments, and just time for it to happen. Everyone needs to be prepared for it, but not panic, because the establishment lives off of panic and fear. I only hope Donald Trump will be able to counteract enough of the blow in time so it doesn’t hurt so bad. They want us to be another Greece. Destabilize! Destabilize! Destabilize! That is all the current idiots in power know how to do.

    • Spiritof76Revisited

      People that invest in the market are risking their future on a controlled system. Get out while you still can. They forced the Great Depression, and they will do it again. Invest in food, shelter, water, guns and plenty of ammo. That is all you need to survive. Eventually, we “peasants” will “storm” the Bastille, so to speak.

  • Hambone

    Don’t listen to the stupid, idiot politicians currently in power. They do not want to give up that power and will do anything necessary to retain it. The American citizens need to do everything in their power to ensure that doesn’t happen!

  • Hambone

    The only reason why the killery camp wants intel is to sell it to foreign governments so she can replenish her slush fund!

  • Wayne

    I guess since obama started so many civil wars in the middle east that his last job in office will be to start a civil war here. We are waiting.

  • Alleged Comment

    CLEARLY the left does not want to see America great again. They don’t like that.

    They want us to become like a TURD WORLD nation so they can become our PLANTATION MANAGERS to beat and whip us.

    They hate HUMANS, especially the free and successful ones like AMERICANS most of all.

    Thus, they flood our country with TURD WORLD immigrants of Megroes, Mexicans, Moslems, Migrants, and Mongrels.

    Time to export all Demoncraps to TURD WORLD nations. Why aren’t they there?? This is what they want and they can rule there.

  • HarryLola

    The US needs a news agency. Brother Donald John needs to start with the information whores. Create a news agency to end ABC, CBS, NBC, MSM, CNN and the news services. Then the Fed, and then the CIA. We are praying for you Brother Donald John! Keep going, you are winning!

  • jamieobomber

    They will blow up the whole damn planet before they give up their power and control and allow Trump to assume power. I’ve never been more concerned and anxious.

    • socalbeachdude


  • Danuta Ewiak

    As can be seen, Donald Trump has many enemies. His election is associated with the plan of God, and therefore his enemies will not defeat him. Let me remind here a fragment of an ancient vision: “And [the king of the north] will go back (to) his land with great wealth [1945. This detail indicated that Hitler will attack also the Soviet Union and will fight to the bitter end. In the beginning there were no signs of such the ending of this war]; and his heart (will be) against the holy covenant [hostility towards Christians. Soviet Union introduced state atheism]; and will act [it means activity in the international arena]; and turned back to his own land [1991-1993. The collapse of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact. Russian troops returned to their country]. At the appointed time [he] will return back.” (Daniel 11:28, 29a) The return of Russia in this context means the breakup of the European Union and NATO. Many countries of the former Eastern block will reconcile with Russia. Such is the plan of God. It is no coincidence that Barack Obama wins presidency in 2008 and 2012. God in this way has secured us against a premature world war. The first should be the return of Russia, and then the war, and not vice versa. (Daniel 11:29,30; Matthew 24:7; Revelation 6:4; cf. Jeremiah 1:12) The victory of Donald Trump also is not accidental. There is hope for improvement in Russian-American relations. The world will be safer, at least for a moment.

    In 1882 British troops occupied Egypt. Great Britain then took the role of “the king of the south”. Around the same time, Russia expanded its influence in the region, which previously belonged to Seleucus I Nicator, and took the role of “the king of the north”. (Daniel 11:27)

    All the details of this vision are being fulfilled from the time of ancient Persia, in chronological order. It is true that this vision is variously interpreted. As one can see, it has a lot of details. Therefore the insightful person is able to detect any error or sophistry. (Daniel 12:10)

  • They Live

    Honestly do not believe they will get away with it. When you factor in that over 90% of the USA military, Federal Law and Intelligence agencies voted for Trump, this soft coup attempt would be met with a hard coup.

    Funny too that Podesta is on TV now singing the Russia Hack song. For now #pizzagate has only died down because of criminal omission by the #MSM. We can conjecture the current CIA officials pushing the Russia narrative are the same globalist whom brought us WMDs. And we can also conjecture there are opposing views within that organization and given the chance, will turn on the globalist elements within their own organization.

    That said, its only a matter of time before the pro-American elements of our these agencies launch a counter-coup. Only yesterday, Arthel Neville on Fox was interviewing a CIA analyst. And as we know Fox seems to have been usurped by globalist forces. And true to form as soon as it was apparent that the CIA analyst’s opinion of the Russia investigation would only amount to how to conduct elections in the future, (as opposed to ending Trumps ascendency to the White House), she cut him off and said they were out of time.

    So the #MSM is fishing for intelligence people who carry the narrative. But it seems even within the CIA the factions are at war. While this guy agreed Russia was involved, my impression was that he told Fox that just to get on the show. Once questioned he allowed the narrative to continue. But would not venture into the area the globalist would want. It was fascinating to see the guy cut off so quickly. Such obvious little brats that aren’t getting their way, the globalist do not seem to know how to handle defeat.

    Our analysis points to this counter-coup not only installing Trump into the White House, but also cleaning house on the pro-globalist trash that has infected our press. Hence, the repealing of the FCC Act of 1996 is on the horizon. It was that act, if you remember, that gave rise to consolidation of media outlets. And that has resulted in only 6 corporations owning almost all of what are supposed to be the people’s airwaves.

  • as if

    “start with the CIA!” “disband the CIA!” “blah blah blah the CIA!”
    don’t forget whose goal it was to “tear up the CIA and scatter them to the winds” – JFK. and we all know exactly what happened to him.
    trump would not survive the CIA if he crossed them.

  • Bobby Lokey

    I would imagine that if Trump is denied the presidency (basically a coup against the U.S.) on such sheer idiocy as the Never Trumpers illegally and unlawfully advocate, this country will be destroyed in its Second Civil War, as the weapons that are available to both sides are thermonuclear ones. I think I will enjoy the whole affair, as I predicted quite a while ago that it would happen. It’s just that the actual causes of the affair (civil war) are being masked by the selfish motives of the coup creators. But it does not matter why my prediction of heavy societal destruction/ruin is coming to pass, so long as it comes. God and I know the real reason. If I live through it, all those that heard my words, and which also survive, may say, “You were right, Mr Lokey.”. It will be music to my ears.

  • Spiritof76Revisited

    IF that happens, the free militias and our allies will rise and take back America. That is a promise.

  • mrviolin

    1: Trump a Russian Spy
    2: Deny his Swearing in.
    3: Shut down internet
    4: Have the news not mention the internet again, or D. Trump

    • socalbeachdude

      Laughably and totally bogus assertions.

  • reyesmac

    If this site is willing to go this far on a limb to predict what may happen then try this on for size. Many modern prophecies speak of american cities either being nuked or burning or otherwise being destroyed. All major american cities are majority democrat. If major cities in this country are destroyed it would take a long time for any democrats to be elected president again. Why would the powers that be destroy their power base? Who would do the destroying? Russia is a possibility. By making sure no more democrats are elected in the US that makes things a lot more manageable for them. But what if the elite are not leftist after all? What if they need to use people like the democrats to do their dirty work? The Nazis were not just used by Hitler, they were used by the elite to change the balance of power in europe, northern africa, and asia. Then they were disposed of. What if the elite want a new American century? I am not saying Trump is in on this, the founding fathers were good guys and so was Washington. But the elite knew back then they would be taking over once the patriots time was over.
    The elite have time tables, this election changed none of what they ultimately have planned to occur. The only change the election made was to clearly show how terrible our current representatives are and what lengths they would go to please their masters. I think many people know that a game is taking place now, they just haven’t zoomed back to see that the coaches and spectators are being controlled as well. And that this whole thing is just meant to suck the viewing audience in long enough for them to get away with their real goal which isn’t even in the arena the game is being played in. Its possible we are all being played and suckered into investing all our energy on this circus.

  • Robert49 ✓Trump 2016

    Problem is from my research of Trump and the people like Dr. Judy Sheldon, it’s a very real possibility that Trump once in office is going to start proceedings to repeal the Federal Reserve System and go back to the original founding fathers principle of a National Bank with the US currency being of precious metals backing.
    Dr. Judy Sheldon has been advising Trump on monetary policy for 2 years now. She is a solid “Sound Money, Gold Backed Currency” advocate.

  • Patriot47

    My absolute favorite is ex-CIA calling for a Mulligan.

  • Synickel

    Hegelian dialectic.

  • socalbeachdude

    Donald Trump wins Electoral College – as attempts to cause rebellion turn to farce with DEMOCRATS deserting Hillary

    Donald Trump officially crossed the line to 270 electoral votes with electors in Texas casting a ballot for the Republican shortly before 5:30 p.m. EST. Calls for Trump to be voted down by members of the Electoral College were roundly ignored on Monday – with only two ‘faithless’ Republican electors rejecting him and four deserting Democrat Hillary Clinton.

  • socalbeachdude

    Surprise! Electoral college ‘rebels’ who wanted to stop Trump WERE in touch with Clinton campaign (and now movement’s leader is facing prosecution)

    Senior advisors to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign kept in touch by phone and email with a driver of the ill-fated, last-ditch effort to dump Donald Trump at the electoral college. The advisors kept tabs on Colorado elector Micheal Baca (pictured top), who was helping try to persuade Republican members of the Electoral College to vote against Trump. The effort ultimately flamed out, although a handful of Clinton electors ultimately ended up voting for other people. Baca himself is facing prosecution for his decision to cast his vote for Ohio Republican Governor John Kasich rather than Clinton, notwithstanding a state law directing him to back Clinton and the oath he swore. Baca and Clinton communications director Jennifer Palmieri (bottom left) exchanged text messages that indicated Palmieri’s interest in being informed about the effort

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