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16 Critical Economic Issues That Obama And Romney Avoided During The Debate

Did you watch the presidential debate on Wednesday night?  It is absolutely amazing how they can have an hour and a half debate about the economy and say so little.  It seemed like both candidates were falling all over each other wanting to talk about how much they value education, but will more education really solve our problems?  After all, 53 percent of all Americans with a bachelor’s degree under the age of 25 were either unemployed or underemployed in 2011.  So perhaps they should just both agree that education is a good thing and start talking about how to create more jobs for all of us.  If you want to grade the debate from a technical standpoint, clearly Romney was the winner of the debate.  Romney was full of energy and was generally sharp with his answers.  Obama looked like he had just popped a couple of antidepressants and was ready for nap time.  As a result, this might have been the worst blowout in the history of presidential debates.  A CNN/ORC International poll that was taken right after the debate found that 67 percent of all Americans that had watched the debate thought that Romney was the winner.  Never before had any presidential candidate crossed the 60 percent mark in the history of their post-debate polling.  So Romney definitely had a big night.  But the reality is that both candidates were telling the American people what they want to hear.  If either Obama or Romney told the truth about what we are facing they would lose votes, and in a race this tight both of them really want to avoid doing that.  Obama and Romney both desperately want to win this election, and the words that are coming out of their mouths have been carefully crafted to appeal to the “undecided voters” in the swing states.  If you actually believe that they can deliver on everything that they are promising, then you must not have been paying much attention to U.S. politics over the past several decades.

Perhaps the biggest failure on Wednesday night was debate moderator Jim Lehrer of PBS.  His questions were about as far from “hard hitting” as you could get.

The hour and a half debate was almost entirely about the economy, and yet almost all of the critical economic issues were ignored.

Yes, Obama and Romney have slight differences when it comes to tax rates and regulations, but those small differences are not going to do much to change the direction of this country one way or another.

Meanwhile, there were some really huge issues about the economy that were not addressed at all last night….

1 – In an hour and a half debate about the economy, the Federal Reserve was not mentioned a single time.

2 – In an hour and a half debate about the economy, Ben Bernanke was not mentioned a single time.

3 – In an hour and a half debate about the economy, quantitative easing was not mentioned a single time.

4 – In an hour and a half debate about the economy, the term “derivatives” was not used a single time.  Considering the fact that derivatives could bring down our financial system at any moment, this is an issue that should be talked about.

5 – In an hour and a half debate about the economy, there was no mention of the millions of jobs that have been shipped out of the country.  Considering the fact that both Obama and Romney have played a role in this, it is probably a topic they both want to avoid.  Overall, the United States has lost more than 56,000 manufacturing facilities since 2001.

6 – In an hour and a half debate about the economy, neither candidate mentioned that the velocity of money has plunged to a post-World War II low.

7 – In an hour and a half debate about the economy, the fact that the rest of the world is beginning to reject the U.S. dollar as a reserve currency was not mentioned a single time, but this has enormous implications for our economy in the years ahead.

8 – The fact that the Social Security system is headed for massive trouble was only briefly touched on during the debate.  At the moment, there are approximately 56 million Americans that are collecting Social Security benefits.  By 2035, that number is projected to grow to an astounding 91 million.  Overall, the Social Security system is facing a 134 trillion dollar shortfall over the next 75 years.  When are our politicians going to honestly address this massive problem?

9 – In an hour and a half debate about the economy, the nightmarish drought the country is experiencing right now was not mentioned a single time.

10 – In an hour and a half debate about the economy, the financial meltdown in Europe was basically totally ignored.  But considering the fact that Europe has a larger economy and a much larger banking system than we do, perhaps someone should have asked Obama and Romney what they plan to do when the financial system of Europe implodes.

11 – In an hour and a half debate about the economy, the student loan debt bubble was only briefly mentioned.

12 – In an hour and a half debate about the economy, there was not a single word about the fact that the gap between the wealthy and the poor is now larger than it has been at any point since the Great Depression.

13 – In an hour and a half debate about the economy, there was no mention of TARP (which they both supported at the time).  Would they both bail out the big banks if another financial crisis erupted?

14 – In an hour and a half debate about the economy, there was no mention of the economic stimulus packages (which they both supported at the time).  Would they both want more “economic stimulus” if we entered another recession?

15 – In an hour and a half debate about the economy, neither candidate talked about the fact that most of the jobs our economy is producing now are low income jobs.  In fact, since the end of the last recession, 58 percent of the jobs that have been created are low paying jobs.

16 – In an hour and a half debate about the economy, neither candidate mentioned that more than 100 million Americans are enrolled in at least one welfare program run by the federal government or that more than half of all Americans are now at least partially financially dependent on the government.  I can’t blame Romney for avoiding this point though – he probably wanted to avoid the phrase “47 percent” at all costs.

Is this really the best that America can do?

Tens of millions of Americans tuned in hoping to become more informed about the candidates, and instead what they got was an hour and a half of tap dancing as Obama and Romney constantly tossed out buzzwords such as “education”, “energy independent” and “middle class”.

I honestly don’t know how you can possibly have a debate about the economy without talking about the Federal Reserve, quantitative easing, the trade deficit, Europe or the decline of the U.S. dollar.

But it just happened right in front of our eyes.

I don’t think that I can ever remember another presidential debate that lacked substance as much as this one did.

So what did you all think about the debate?  Please feel free to post a comment with your thoughts below….

  • Rodster

    The whole political process has morphed into American Idol. I did not watch the debate nor do I care who wins i’ve tuned out. The two party system has become Diet Coke vs Diet Pepsi.

    I’m now more interested in making sure i’m as ready as possible when the whole global economic system collapses. ;)

    • Gary2

      maybe true, however, the republicans are insane, and the dems are mildly sane.

    • Eisenkreutz

      I heard that, brother. My preps are on overdrive these last few weeks, though they were formidable to begin with.

    • OLdFART

      If you own a 3D TV, you could have had the sensation of being lied to to your face.

      • Gary2

        Ha that was a good one–brought a smile to my face on a cold Friday afternoon.

        • Rodster

          And if you had a place to live it would be much warmer than living out on the streets. :)

  • http://www.mensalmanac.com Mike

    I agree with you 100% Mike. I was waiting for Ben Bernanke’s name to be mentioned and didn’t hear it once. I am a fan of neither candidate but Romney clearly won the ‘debate’ in my opinion. We need to revolt against these oppressors, liars, thieves, tricksters. They all answer to the same ruler regardless of their party affiliation.

    • John W.

      Why would Bernankes name be mentioned? Half the voters don’t even know who the VP is. Why confuse a stupid electorate. Maybe Snooki should be Fed Chair, then everyone would be up to speed.

  • Mondobeyondo

    First impressions, based on the 30 minutes I watched:

    Barack Obama: “My track record against terrorism is impeccable!”
    Mitt Romney: “Massachusetts is the number 1 state in education in the U.S.!”

    Barack Obama: “The economy much better now than under my predecessor’s administation!”
    Mitt Romney: “Massachusetts is the number 1 economic powerhouse in
    the U.S.!”

    Barack Obama: “My administration loves puppies! Even Hillary loves a stray dog!
    Mitt Romney: “Massachusetts is the number 1 state for pet adoption in the U.S.!”

    Okay, so who won? Oh boy. I believe Romney won. Hard to not love a man who likes a strong economy and puppies.

  • Steve

    I’m pretty sure Point # 5 was discussed. You’re right though, many of those things were either not even mentioned or otherwise given scarce acknowledgement. Could be because most of swinging voters are stupid so what matters more in order to win the election is mere rhetoric and stage presence and performance.

    • Michael

      Well, Obama did say how proud he was of his new “free trade agreements” which will cause millions more jobs to be exported from this country.

      Michael

      • Gary2

        Michael–can you review the death by china and really delve into how chinia and the free trade has really hurt this country?

        After hearing an interview with the books/films author my eyes were really opened.

        http://www.deathbychina.com/

  • Paul M

    The debate was a farce. I have come to the realization that neither Romney nor Obama can prevent an economic meltdown. Both Romney and Obama want to keep their head in the sand in regards to serious economic issues the U.S and other countries accross the globe are facing.

    • http://yahoo.com richard swank

      YOU HIT THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD. WHEN THE SHIT HITS THE FAN WHO EVER IS PRESIDENT CAN LOOK SUPRISED LIKE I DIDN’T SEE IT COMING. LOL

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      “I have come to the realization that neither Romney nor Obama can prevent an economic meltdown”

      No kidding. What you’re voting for here is who ISNT going to seize power, fundamentally transform the country (your fist clue) and slaughter Americans that object (which leftists ALWAYS DO when they seize power).

      Your mantra should be, “At least Romney isn’t an anti-American communist”

      • concerned person

        Which is why I’m voting for Romney. He’s an empty suit – harmless.

      • Gay Veteran

        “Your mantra should be, “At least Romney isn’t an anti-American communist””

        no, just another corporate fascist (just like Obama)

  • Paul M

    Michael,

    Which canidate is more likely to start a war. Romney or Obama? If Iran is attacked the price of gas and food will skyrocket.

    • Michael

      I think both of them would be likely to start more wars.

      Michael

      • Josh

        I think Iran is the most likely to start the war. If we preemptively attack them in order to stop a nuclear attack on our only democratic ally in the Mid East we can hardly consider the President a warmongor who is “starting a war”. I am basically a pacifist. But if someone is about to be nuked by a psychopathic gov’t, how can we just stand by?

        • GSOB

          Josh,
          I’m not so brave as to be a pacifist.
          Most people are not pacifist.

          Israel can take care of herself.
          There is no such thing as being a pacifist and promoting a premptive stike… that’s an oxymoron.
          Wether you stike first or second as in defense, you are not a pacifist any loner once you strike.

          Iran is not a threat to us. We are a threat to them because of their oil, we want it distributed through the petrodallar system and not any other. That’s what these wars have been about for the longest time.
          It’s all about the petrodollar, not about nukes, not about Israel.

          It’s our countries’ foreign policy and runaway spending – that’s the problem.

        • Gay Veteran

          the ONLY reason we’re trying to overthrow the Iranian government (yet again!), is OIL

      • http://n/a Patrick

        Correction on the Iranian War:

        It’s already started, last fall sanctions and war ships etc. Check it out on infowars-
        Hey, got to get those central banks installed with help from rebels! Don’t think the Iranians don’t know just who is invading their country under a thin and false excuse. Duck and cover
        Why is oil and in the case of Afghanistan, lithium worth invasion?
        Free energy has been crushed, as in Ford’s first car meant to run on hemp ethanol, Diesel’s car on hemp oil (vegie oil) Control folks, control!

    • Mondobeyondo

      Well, Obama is a peacemaker. He won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009.

      [can’t stop laughing]

    • uncle bill

      If anyone saw condy rices speech at the rep convention she spelled out the plans for war. The first 10 minutes of the debate were spent with obama repeating that romney “will” not “would”(if he won) give a 5 trillion $ tax cut and increase military spending by 2trillion which they have not asked for. Romney kept correcting (for want of a better word) that there is no 5 trillion tax cut but did not deny at all the extra 2trillion to the military.

      josh get a clue virginia.

  • http://www.conservativemormonmom.blogspot.com E B

    You should give Romney some credit for hitting Obama hard on his economic failures. He did explain more about tax cuts and their consequences than I expected, even though I quite agree with him. Blame Obama for the education talk, he brought it up every time and Romney was just rebutting to say there is no argument about education. In a long-winded but at least sensible way, unlike Obama. Romney gave 10 times the substance of Obama. Read through the transcript and you’ll see what I mean. Obama was all rhetoric. Romney talked statistics and studies and data.

    • Rhynn

      I would be more than happy to give Romney credit for hitting hard. As long as he was hitting himself in the face hard, that is.

      Obama’s economic failures were a lot easier to pull off with help over all four years from Republican sandbox ninjas and their pledges to block everything Obama tried to put through. Romney should Chuck Norris kick himself in the back of the head for even bringing ineffectiveness of economic policy up.

      Right after that, he should start working on a way to convince America that there will never be a subsection of it chosen arbitrarily for oppression he can later turn around and claim are struggling because they are culturally inferior when asked why they are doing worse than those oppressing them.

      When it’s time to wrap things up, he can run outside trailing the leash he tugged away from AIPAC and take a bite out of the first electric fence he encounters.

      It’s what a patriot who has put his country ahead of himself would do. For the greater good that is.

    • k

      you are right….obama came grossly unprepared to the debate.

    • Johnny Apple Seed

      Romney then would be called a true businessman

  • Diego

    Yeah, the main issues were never going to get attention. It’s always the same old rethorics, buzzwords and bull******** catering to stupid people who still believe that changing the president ‘piece’ on the government ‘game’ changes anything solid when the only thing it does is heighten or slow down the speed in which government grows.

    No your vote doesn’t count and yes Obama and Romney are just the same guys with different skin color. Heard a comedian say once that he doesn’t consider himself a voter but a casting director instead, he’s just gonna pick the guy that looks better on tv for the next years since that’s all they do, show up in front of the cameras and act a role for the ignorant and disinformed who are still caught up watching the movie.

    Learn some real economics and start spoting the bull******, cuz once you see some bull****** you start spoting it all. Follow blogs like this and look up Austrian Economics, it’s not perfect but it’s based on reality and facts, not bull************* for office and Keynes.

    • John W.

      They debate at the intelectual level of the audience which is mostly borderline retard. These same retards send other retards back to Congress for decades. Until this changes no progress will be made and I doubt if either Romney or Obama can stop the economic train wreck. I prefer Romney to be in charge because he will not use a crisis to seize more power which is all Obama lives for.

  • Larry

    Brilliant article as usual! Would like to have heard their take on NDAA or illegal immigration, or the FDIC no longer insuring bank account next year!

  • http://theeconomiccollapseblog Leonard

    I haven’t even finished reading this article yet and the first 3 or 4 points are absolutely brilliant! NOTHING has been mentioned about the federal reserve or Ben Bernanke… All this is telling me that a majority of people know absolutely NOTHING of what is really going on in the system.
    A majority of people don’t even know what the velocity of money really means.
    When you want to be ignorant and watch bogus programs on TV all the time, the system can fool most people and make serfs out of them!

    • Patrick M.

      I don’t know what the velocity of money means, either. However I’m sure I can Google it and find out more. Although I’m probably not as smart as most people here, I’m thankfully not one of those mindless drones who get their news from the MSM.

      • Michael

        In simple terms, the velocity of money is how rapidly money circulates in the economy. In a healthy economy, money tends to circulate very rapidly.

        • GSOB

          no no no Michael

          The velocity of money is the bullet that killed JFK.

  • http://TheEconomicCollapse Dixicat22

    I honestly believe November’s election will be the country’s last before there is an incredible reset that wipes the slate clean and allows Americans to experiment with new forms of government. Is this good? It could be, especially if whatever system replaces the one we now have has the ability to find candidates who are true leaders, visionaries who try to solve problems instead of ignore them.

    • Eisenkreutz

      THIS IS GOING TO TURN OUT LIKE THE KRONSTADT SAILORS AND THE BOLSHEVIKS. IN THIS DAY AND AGE OF STUPID PEOPLE AND CYBERSTALKER GOVERNMENT, THE POWERS THAT BE WILL TRAMPLE THE PEOPLE AFTER THE COLLAPSE, UNLESS YOU FIGHT BACK.

    • joe

      I disagree with you for the most part. We need to reject leaders. people need to take personal responsibility. The greatest leaders are those that refuse to lead (george washington turned down the opportunity to be king, and was also the person who demanded limited terms for presidents). Individual freedom is the only hope. As much as michael needs to talk more about derivatives he must also mention KOWLOON WALLED CITY. I’m not really an anarchist but the historical example that is “kowloon walled city” is important for the world to understand IMO.

  • Graham

    Be very wary of CNN polls. I’m not saying I disagree with last nights, but several people online were tracking them live earlier this year and grabbed screenshots showing Ron Paul walking over everybody with figures like 75-85%. Within a few hours, CNN removed those polls and replaced them with one’s showing Ron Paul had between 0 and 5%.

    CNN has a very clear agenda and that agenda becomes blatantly obvious when you research the company, whose who and their background etc. They certainly haven’t aired this (6 mins), neither have the UK media. Ties up with Abrahamic versus Khazarian bloodlines!

    Israeli leaders meet Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in NYC:-
    http://youtu.be/bCw-oWp1wf8

    • concerned person

      The Israeli “leaders” you show here are most likely from the extremist fringe group the Neturai Karta. They are an offshoot of the Hasidic Satmar sect but basically all Jews refuse to acknowlege this group as legit. Sorry to burst your bubble.

      • Graham

        concerned person:-

        You say…
        1) “most likely from”
        2) “they are an offshoot”
        3) “but basically all Jews refuse”

        I suggest you do some homework before posting such misleading “assumptions”. Offshoot? Complete nonsence. There is no bubble to burst in my life but it seems you have left yourself “very vulnerable”. Any group that adheres to the “Torah” is unlikely to be “extremist”.

        Quote:-
        Neturei Karta is not – as is often alleged – a small sect or an extremist group of “ultra-orthodox” Jews. The Neturei Karta have added nothing to nor have they taken anything away from the written and oral law of the Torah as it is expressed in the Halacha and the Shulchan Aruch. The Neturei Karta are fighting the changes and inroads made by political Zionism during the past one-hundred odd years.

  • Larry

    I think that your spot on about the two candidates ignoring the real economic issues which you listed above. I could only imagine if this was Ron Paul vs Obama, a debate of real economics. It was interesting to hear Romney to mention the decrease in wealth of the average middle class income and 50% of college graduates can’t find work which is true in some sense but he failed to mention the “CAUSE” of this.

    http://www.policymic.com/articles/15854/ron-paul-would-have-crushed-obama-in-the-presidential-debate

  • GSOB

    I thought the debates were interesting. It was easier for me to understand Mitt than it was Obama…. although overall, I don’t like either one of them, because of their proven, political record.

    what both candidates lacked was discussion on the most grave and important issue I think… that’s abortion. I did not see the entire debate but I what I did get to hear, there was no mention of these unrepresented victims.

    Our most fragile are murdered, about three thousand just in the US everyday… because of someone else’s decision to do so.
    That’s 1,095,000 precious, defenseless human beings every year.

    So, let me get this straight… here we are talking about the economy with eager concern, but we couldn’t care less about the santity of our most cherished possesion of all, the gift of life. Some will say that the debate on the economy is not the right venue for that discussion.

    But doesn’t it affect the economy? I think it does. But the real priority concern is more money rather than protecting human life, which really is the original role of government.
    Surely there can be some reduction there in the sacrifice of these bitty ones, don’t you think?

    But, really folks, the controlled MSM armed with preselected questions and candidates are all meant to convince us and keep us in line with the choices and answers they provide for us, to keep with the secret agenda going,

    this agenda is progressive socialism and it will continue in destroying this great country of ours. There is really no stopping it.

    We need God’s mercy, each and everyone of us.

    Obama is a Muslim
    Mitt is a Mormon
    Both claim to be Christans.

    It really don’t mean anything though. Jesus said that the closest thing to heaven is a child.

    So, where are we trying to get too when we simply neglect these unwanted babies?

    HELL

    • onething

      Why do you feel that abortion is more important than 100,000 Iraqi civilians being killed by our armed forces?

      • GSOB

        onething

        I don’t feel this… I think it.

        The Iraqi total numbers are smaller and they are not the most fragile.

        War is one thing, just or unjust….
        Murder is not war. Killing is not murder.
        Killing happens in war. Murder happens to our most fragile in high numbers, year after year after year after year.

        It adds up for both groups over time but I hope I have impressed you with at least a distinction B/T them.

        When the bible says Thou shall not kill, it means thou shall not murder.
        For if we take it to the logical and strict adherence to it, and without further study – we could not kill our food before we eat it, even if you were a vegan.

        • uncle bill

          he said innocent civilians. Vey young children. Thats ok with you in war? Thats not murder? 100,000 is not “high numbers”?

          • GSOB

            uncle bill

            He did not say innocent civilians, but suppose he meant them to be included…. ok, so…

            who is more innocent… babies in the womb or civilian babies?

            Let’s get priorites straight. None of us are innocent.
            We all will die because of sin. So, now that I have leveled the playing field …. isn’t it obvious that the youngest hold the best promise for our future and prosperity in the eyes of God?

            Again,…
            War is one thing, just or unjust….
            Murder is not war. Killing is not murder.
            Killing happens in war. Murder happens to our most fragile in high numbers, year after year after year after year.

            It adds up for both groups over time but I hope I have impressed you with at least a distinction B/T them.

    • Gary2

      dude–no one cares about abortion or gay marrige. That ship sailed long ago. Move on.

      • GSOB

        Gary2,

        Exactly. No one cares.
        I do though. The basic ‘most BASIC’ role of government at any level is to protect life. Human government is given to us – a necessary evil because of evil- with the authority to exercise capital punishment against those who disregard life and takes another, a disregard for law and order. A lawless society that feeds itself on what treasures it can obtain, at any cost.

    • this guy

      Ummmmm, maybe you don’t quite understand this. We are are not in a recession due to people having or not having abortions. What are you thinking???

      • GSOB

        this guy….
        Let me put it another way….

        The hallmark of socialism is not resdistribution of wealth. All systems of government in this world redistribute wealth to one degree or another…

        The hallmark of socialism is the politicization of our economy.
        Look it up.
        Anyways, that’s what I see in these debates and we are asked to join in to choose from either of them, to keep on the same path.

        Meantime, the murders of babies go on everyday.
        Perhaps you can understand where I’m coming from now, fortunately you were given the chance to connect the dots the first time I pointed out how our political leaders have lost their way.
        These most fragile don’t stand a chance.

        AMERICA has lost it’s way.

    • GSOB

      Oh, how I forgot mention, sad to admit,

      the defeated Ron Paul delivered over what… 4000 bitty babies?
      and
      the defeated Ron Paul

      that most our children at war support him more than the others?

    • joe

      Abortion is a distraction issue. So is gay marriage. How do i know?

      They are the only issues that the two(fake) parties disagree on.

      They should clearly be left up to the states. Im sorry, but I feel like only fools could be distracted by those two issues, which are clearly state issues.

      When it comes to policies that create the massive poverty levels that lead to acts such as abortion…

      look at the federal reserve and the overall size and scope of government.

      Governent actions like “policing abortions”(in one way, for everybody) are the kinds of fiscal boondoggles that cause POVERTY.

      and poverty leads to abortions.

      STOP federal intervention in personal issues and you may achieve your goal of less abortions.

      • GSOB

        I agree Joe,

        it’s sad that no one, or I have not herad either Obama or Mitt – push that simple solution, not even if it ends up saving many babies. Ron Paul has.

        Leave it up to the states is a better solution that will save babies.
        Why has that not been done…..?
        It’s beyond me.

        Your money or your life?
        Well?
        What’s your answer?

        Oh… still thinking about it.

        • uncle bill

          you missed his point that abortion is just a distraction issue. Do you agree wirh that?

          • GSOB

            uncle bill

            I did not miss Joe’s point.
            You missed mine, I guess cause you don’t understand the predigament we’re in.

            The million or so babies murdered every year was due to them being a distraction. Left unchecked, we thus allow the murder of these unborn babies to continue,…

            ABORTION, a political distraction – as dubbed by Joe, defended and supported by you, others… and not talked about much amongst our highest, potential government leaders. It’s a level of political sophistication adopted to quickly dismiss any discussion on it in the debates. That’s worldliness if you asked me.

            To suggest the state thing as Joe did and Ron Paul did, is to save the lives of many of these bitty ones, with minimal distraction to the Federal government. But, during the first Presidential debate, it’s to much of a distraction, fore it’s not high up in their value system that they hold and reflect when running for public office –
            which is probably yours’ and Joes’ too, I’m afraid to say.
            But, it should be the first issue to talk about – doing away with it at the Fed level. That’s a good start.

            Again,
            not to follow through on it because the Presidential candidates view it as distraction issue, or something beneath them, even in light of this simple state solution – is to not do anything at all. It don’t get done and the murdering of innocent babies goes on.

            People want to continue to dismiss abortion as a distraction issue, a distraction from the economy in this case, which is more important they suggest. That unholy, herd mentality most people are caught up in jepardizes our most fragile from protection.

            In reality, this is not a distraction issue … because protecting human life in all it’s stages is #1 priority at any level of sound government. Thou shall not murder.
            Get a life and save a life, please don’t consider murder any longer as a distraction.

            We don’t have a sound government anymore.

      • concerned person

        brilliant comment.

        • concerned person

          This was directed at Joe but for some reason got placed here. oh well.

    • otter

      If you use abortion as a deciding factor, you simply can’t vote for Obama. He is the most pro-abortion president in history! All of his supreme court justices are radically pro-abortion. The democratic convention had the heads of NARAL and Planned Parenthood as prominent speakers!

      Mitt Romney is pro-life. Paul Ryan is pro-life.

      The fact is either Romney or Obama will be our next president. Obama has been an absolute disaster on just about every issue. Voting for Ron Paul, Gary Johnson, or anyone else is throwing away your vote. We must get Obama out.

      Would Mitt be able to stop an economic collapse? Maybe not. But I’d much rather have him in charge to manage any crisis that comes our way than Obama.

      • Gary2

        if ryan or mittens are so pro life why do they do nothing for the kid after they are born? They want to cut every program that would give a helping hand to those children so they can succeed in this world. Programs like WIC/Food Stamps. Obamacare etc.

        I literally want to vomit through my nose when I hear repubes say pro life when they are anything but pro life if you look at their actions.

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          “why do they do nothing for the kid after they are born?”

          You’re so full of *********** your eyes are brown.

        • uncle bill

          “so they can succeed in this world”, staring welfare addiction early with those programs prevents them succeeding in this world.

      • GSOB

        When it comes to the economy I would rather have neither one.
        When it comes to different faiths – I would rather have Obama than Mitt.
        But I’m not voting for either. And their is really only two categories of faith – the true or the false.

        I am a Chrisitan and after studying the bible for many years – the main threat to Israel in the OT and the Church in the NT is false prophets within. that’s the enemy within. They are the most deceitful.

        Most people in this country do not think that Mormonism is any different
        from the true faith.

      • GSOB

        otter

        Pro life
        Pro Choice
        Mormon
        Muslim
        Democrat
        Republican

        what the heck difference these labels actually make if the most
        promise for a persons’ or countries’ future of any kind is simply overlooked, while doctors suck the life out before they’re given breath.

        God will judge.

    • Ian

      do you eat meat? do you let your tax dollars go to the war machine?

      if so, then get your head out of your ass and stop saying you are pro life.

      By the way, nowhere in the bible doea it state that you should care more about unborn fetus’ than those who are born.

      Nowhere. Absolutely nowhere.

      please show me the bible verse that speaks of abortion and i will gladly go on my merry way.

      • GSOB

        Ian,

        If you really wanted to know this, you don’t need me to assist you in getting your head in the bible or google it.

        Thanks for your kind words… it my head and my a__

        You need further evaluation.

        • Ian

          again, i googled and found no quoutes from the bible directly addressing the killing of the unbor\n. T

          • GSOB

            Ian,

            You did not find it because you do not understand the holy scriptures, therefore… you will have to pray about this and afterwards, see if you can read through the book of Exodus.

            You may find a way out of the ignorance you have been subject to. God cares about the unborn as well as the born… He is concerned with life at it’s very conception in the womb.

            If God did not care about the unborn, think about it, you would not be here, neither would I. He makes the unborn, before they are born, into his image. God cares about that and that is why we have the commandment to not murder.

            Moses was to be killed by the handmaids when they assisted mothers in childbearing and yet they did not obey the human powers to kill the babies. Moses was saved from being murdered!

            God’s power is displayed even in the miracle of conception – every conception that’s conceived is His doing, through the instrumentation of his creation. All of life is from God.

            If you can’t find even that theme in the Bible, which would cover these bitty ones, then your understanding of God needs to be re-evaluated.

        • uncle bill

          “it my head and my a-” you sound very pro abortion, “its my body”.
          Notice you have no answer to the question that it is not anywhere in the bible that abortion is murder. Is masturbation mass murder by your logic?

          I am not arguing for abortion, i just find it amazing you could care less for real children and have upside down logic.

          • GSOB

            uncle bill

            Since you define real children as children being outside the womb.
            Your problem is with God, not me. If you want to debate about it more with me, it’s not a distraction.

            Human life from God starts at conception.
            You need to raise your standard to His and not your own or the worlds.

            Your question, if masturbation is mass murder is my logic.
            It’s sin for sure at least. That’s God’s logic.
            Enough for you to die in it.

          • GSOB

            uncle bill

            The Bible teaches that human life is different from other types of life, because human beings are made in the very image of God.

            Ian

            The Bible teaches that the child in the womb is truly a human child, who even has a relationship with the Lord.

            God knows the preborn child. “You knit me in my mother’s womb . . . nor was my frame unknown to you when I was made in secret” (Psalm 139:13,15). God also helps and calls the preborn child. “You have been my guide since I was first formed . . . from my mother’s womb you are my God” (Psalm 22:10-11). “God… from my mother’s womb had set me apart and called me through his grace” (St. Paul to the Galatians 1:15).

            Scripture repeatedly condemns the killing of the innocent.

            This flows from everything that has been seen so far. God’s own finger writes in stone the commandment “Thou shalt not kill” (Exodus 20:13, Deuteronomy 5:17) and Christ reaffirms it (Matthew 19:18 – notice that He mentions this commandment first). The Book of Revelation affirms that (unrepentant) murderers cannot enter the kingdom of heaven (Revelation 22:15).

            The killing of children is especially condemned by God through the prophets. In the land God gave his people to occupy, foreign nations had the custom of sacrificing some of their children in fire. God told His people that they were not to share in this sin. They did, however, as Psalm 106 relates: “They mingled with the nations and learned their works…They sacrificed their sons and their daughters to demons, and they shed innocent blood, the blood of their sons and their daughters, whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan, desecrating the land with bloodshed” (Psalm 106:35, 37-38).

            This sin of child-sacrifice, in fact, is mentioned as one of the major reasons that the Kingdom of Israel was destroyed by the Assyrians and the people taken into exile. “They mutilated their sons and daughters by fire…till the Lord, in his great anger against Israel, put them away out of his sight” (2 Kings 17:17-18).

            Notice that this practice was a religious ritual. Not even for “religious freedom” can the killing of children be tolerated.

            The Bible teaches that God is a God of justice.

            An act of justice is an act of intervention for the helpless, an act of defense for those who are too weak to defend themselves. In foretelling the Messiah, Psalm 72 says, “Justice shall flower in his days…for he shall rescue the poor man when he cries out and the afflicted when he has no one to help him” (Psalms 72:7,12). Jesus Christ is our justice (1 Corinthians 1:30) because He rescued us from sin and death when we had none to help us (see Romans 5:6, Ephesians 2:4-5).

            If God does justice for His people, He expects His people to do justice for one another. “Be merciful as your heavenly Father is merciful” (Luke 6:36). “Go and do likewise” (Luke 10:37). “Do unto others as you would have them do to you” (Matthew 7:12). “Love one another” (John 15:17).

            Abortion is the opposite of these teachings. It is a reversal of justice. It is a destruction of the helpless rather than a rescue of them. If God’s people do not intervene to save those whose lives are attacked, then the people are not pleasing or worshiping Him.

            God says through Isaiah, “Trample my courts no more! Bring no more worthless offerings…Your festivals I detest…When you spread out your hands, I close my eyes to you; though you pray the more, I will not listen. Your hands are full of blood! Wash yourselves clean…learn to do good. Make justice your aim: redress the wronged, hear the orphan’s plea, defend the widow” (Isaiah 1:13-17).

            Indeed, those who worship God but support abortion are falling into the same contradiction as God’s people of old, and need to hear the same message.

            (Ian – I copied these themes and teachings after googled the following for search “The Bible teaching on abortion”. I have provided them for you…. but really for the bitty ones)

  • markthetruth

    It Was a Joke!!!!

    We are living the life of the game of Monopoly, your given money then you play with it until you lose. Then you wait for another game. Round and Round we go where we land nobody knows.

    the end…

  • ed

    these two canidates,republican & democrat,are clueless & a great threat to america !!!

    • Michael

      I wanted to let everyone know that I taped a new interview with TruNews on Thursday.

      If you are interested, you can find the full interview right here….

      http://www.trunews.com/listen_now.htm

      Michael

      • Gary2

        Michael–I listened to this show. The host is insane. There is no other way to put it. Compared to the host even you sound unbiased.

        The host is a few fries short of a happy meal and it was amusing to hear you try to steer the interview back in to a more sane direction.

        You should not lower yourself by going on this crazy mans show.–Oh yeah I woke up at 2am and the lord told me to tell you this.

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          Gary, please refrain from calling your homosexual lover the Lord. We all already know you’re moonbat nutz, have no original thought processes and are a useless eater, but exercise some adult restraint.

          • Gary2

            still waiting for Michael to answer why he goes on a crazy mans show.

            I felt so soiled after listening to this nut I needed to take a shower. (no the nut was not michael)

          • Gary2

            Malcom-I never referred to you as the lord….ha ha ha got you there

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Thanks Gary, but I wouldnt let you touch me fully clothed. You’re a disgusting, disease riddled freak

        • uncle bill

          have to agree with you this time, he means well with one man one microphone but there is enough real things to worry about without going way overboard.

  • Bentley

    17) In an hour and a half debate the court ruling allowing banks to keep customer segregated funds as collateral for loans even though that collateral was fraudulently pledged was not mentioned.

    18) In an hour and a half debate there was no mention of the court ruling overturning the the position limit rules.

    19) In an hour and a half debate it was not mentioned the Dodd-Frank provisions holding banks that sell investments to pension funds Etc. be held accountable to the highest standards of fiduciary duty were repealed by congress.

  • nowwthen

    Yes, a lot of issues that could, even should have been addressed were not. But you have to agree that one of them looked like he was whipped by the other one who administered the whipping. Let’s see what we hear in the next two debates. . . not that any of it will be anything other than campaign promises.

    I think Romney could gain a lot of credibility if he told Grover Norquist to take a hike and asked Republican Congress people to sign a pledge renouncing their allegiance to Norquist based on the dire need for compromise if we have any hope of averting economic armageddon. . . maybe late in the campaign after it’s too late for Grover to pull his extortionist gang’s campaign funding.

    I can’t remember a recent election where I didn’t feel like I was voting for the lesser of two evils. This one just has a larger degree of separation. Nobody knows what a President Romney will do if given the job. It’s pretty clear however that 4 more years of Obama will guarantee a continuation of our demise.

    • John W.

      Norquist and Rove both give me the creeps. Just a couple of grifters.

  • J

    This was the worst debate that I had ever seen. I watched it for half an hour, and then turned off the TV. I watched some George Carlin specials on DVD instead.

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  • TtT Engine

    Michael, The economic tsunami on the horizon can only be confronted and defeated by Americans with a total commitment to the truth and the Red, White and Blue and its perpetuity. If you are a typical American that is brain dead from the main stream media outlets’ brainwashing, or you have already extinguished your work ethic, or never had it this web-cite and we that post here are alarmist kooks to you. Let’s face it, it is going to take a miracle to prevent a total collapse of the financial system. Kuhner constantly refers to Greece. Rush has been using the “total financial collapse” terminology for weeks. Hannity continually uses the phrase the U.S. is headed for bankruptcy. I saw a lighted sign today while driving that read, “plan/prepare/ready.gov”. Romney atleast made a reference to Spain. The PPP looked scared, sick and worried. The quietness I see on a daily basis from everyday people is deafening. I fear the masterplan for total world governance is already in place. Al Gore [the enviro carbon tax pirate] has made some quiet references to it and the world tax pigs are toying with a global tax. We must all understand that the deep problems the U.S. is facing did not happen over night. They started this evil on 8-15-1969. They cannnot be fixed over night. It starts with first and foremost with life and the moral culture. Second, vote for Romney on Nov. 6th and Forget Politics. The PPP has had 4 years and has made America significantly worse. Vote for Romney, if for no other reason than logic and common sense. Then and only then can we begin to have a chance to no longer have a need for this valuable web-cite called “The Economic Collapse”. Thanks, Michael. Christi Fidelis !

  • Phillip Sherwood

    Since each candidate only “answers” a question by rattling off a previously memorized policy statement triggered by a key word in a question, my question is could any moderator get the candidates to answer a question? The whole point is NEVER to answer a question. I didn’t bother watching since I have already seen their political advertising.

  • Mike

    I wanted to text in my vote for my “Presidential Idol”, but I didn’t know where to send it!?!?!?

  • Gary2

    The moderater is a d-bag who looks like he has one foot in the grave and the other foot is slipping.

  • Gary2

    I agree with everything except #8. All we need to do is lift the cap on oncome subject to social security tax and the issue is solved.

    To go further I would subject all capital gains to social security tax. capital gains are nothing more than income by a different name.

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      Ahh yes, Gary. Idiocy on display and doesn’t even know it. SS is bankrupt and at best gives you

      • Malcolm Reynolds

        *uugh*

        …at best gives you

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          OGL! Dang less than sign.

          <10% of your money back in amounts as dictated by some govt beurocrat.

    • uncle bill

      capital gain is the very reason for investment. remove that reson and we stop providing you with buildings for work or home. Of course u would expect everyone to have a govt house. good luck in the projects then.

  • Caz

    Biggest debt crisis in human history, and the only cut either could mention to gov’t spending was PBS TV channel. Pathetic excuses for leadership in hard times. Bottom line is, Americans will have to fix the problems before politicians do.

  • Paul M

    Below are a few questions I would ask Obama and Romney if I was debate moderator. Gridlock will only make our economic issues worse.

    Obama:
    You promised in February 2009 that the deficit would be cut. Why do you think the debt has instead risen to 16 Trillion instead?
    Please explain why the number of Americans on food stamps has increased from 32 Million to 47 Million in just four years?

    Why did you sign the National Defense Authorization Act?

    People cannot keep paying $4 dollars of gallon of gas forever. What measures are you going to take to bring gas prices down?

    Why did the Federal Reserve implement QE3? This move suppresses interest rates on CD’s etc. Also what about inflationary pressures?

    The U.S has a 300 Billion dollar trade deficit with China. What would you do eliminate this deficit.?
    How are you going to deal with continued tensions between Iran and Israel?

    The U.S is projected to have a 20 Trillion dollar plus deficit if you are elected. Give concrete deals detailing how you will balance the National
    Budget.

    Why should the Federal Reserve be allowed to be in existence when the dollar has lost 95% of its value since its inception in 1913?

    Romney:

    Explain your comments about how “47% of Americans consider themselves to be victims”

    What if anything would you have done differently at Bain Capital. Explain how you were successful at Bain Capital.

    Why do you think it is necessary to spend an additional 2 Trillion dollars on the military? The U.S already spends six times more on its military
    than China does.

    The U.S has a 300 Billion dollar trade deficit with China. What would do eliminate this deficit.

    Please elaborate on the 1985 video where you stated at Bain where you would “harvest” companies.

    How are you going to deal with continued tensions between Iran and Israel?

    Will you scale back the powers and scope of the EPA?

    College graduates in the U.S have amassed over 1 Trillion dollars in debt. Thus it makes it more difficult to purchase a house. What if anything should be done to address the student loan bubble?

    Will you take any steps to end or revamp the Federal Reserve

  • Sam

    Hey Michael! I didn’t watch much of the debate, but I agree with your assessment. Sadly I think Obama will win this election and we’ll have another four years of his bad policies. Also, I read your other article “Warnings That A Massive Stock Market Crash Is Imminent” and I have to admit it had me on the edge of my seat. I was confused about derivatives so thanks for shedding some light on this issue. These banking scoundrels are creating a lot of pain for people and I believe they will get what’s coming to them God willing.

  • Ghulam

    This is so like the time just before the First World War. Our world rolls on, but we seem to be waiting for Netanyahu to shoot an archduke.

    When an economy crashes as dramatically as this one is likely to do, it has been a long-standing tradition in the West to go after somebody to blame. Ask yourself just how well placed is the traditional fall-guy today to play this roll in the coming years when too many Americans find that they have lost everything? Is it going to be easy for whatever general or demagogue decides to become leader-for-the-common man to spot and convict a culprit in the common mind? Americans may consider themselves totally modern and beyond the reach of traditional ways, but it is going to be hard for them to find a new way to play this when it has been laid on so thick. It is not allowed to ask questions about Ben Bernanke yet, is it?

  • FK

    I watched and YES, disappointed. The hard subject like global economy, The Fed, Wall Street manipulations, corruptions, too big to fail, etc. never came up. Senator Ron Paul should have been the moderator.

    I received a survey call asking who would I vote for – I simply asked back “who is my third choice?”. No matter which of these two lesser evil win, I’m afraid we are doom. Check gun/ammo sale volume lately? – huge increase during these past few years and still going up.

  • this guy

    In their defense, nobody could address in even a brief summary all of the problems in the economy along with solutions for them. It would be unreasonable to expect them to. Don’t get me wrong, I’m as pessimistic about both of them as the next guy, but we can’t all just jump on the “lets bash on the politicians” bandwagon before we even have a chance to here what they have to say, corrupted as it may be.

  • Mike The Thai Guy

    It doesn’t matter one iota who is elected. It is irrelevant who “won” the presidential debate. The name of the game is distraction. Give the peasants bread and circuses.

    As somebody once said the poor must be kept ignorant. Even if the topics listed above had been discussed the vast majority would either not be interested or simply would not understand the implications.

    This is why Romney is the Republican candidate and not Ron Paul

  • Sam

    Hey Michael! I didn’t watch much of the debate, but I agree with your assessment. I think Obama will win this election and we’ll have another four years of his bad policies. On the other hand, I don’t think Romney would be any better. I read your other article “Warnings That A Massive Stock Market Crash Is Imminent” and I have to admit it had me on the edge of my seat. I was confused about derivatives so thanks for shedding some light on this issue. These banking scoundrels are creating a lot of pain for people and I believe they will get what’s coming to them God willing.

  • Roger

    BIG government vs. Big government. You pick.

  • Michael

    They both suck in my opinion, I’m probably not even going to vote. On another note, anybody else find it weird that almost every website you visit has an add for selling silver and gold?

  • Ben

    Why is everyone dancing around it? Gary Johnson 2012! Let’s just come out and say it.

  • Bob

    In an hour and a half debate not one mention of NDAA is probably the worst omission of them all.

  • tappedops

    Nice job on Tru Mr.M… great topic also…in fact id listen more often if theyd staple you…

  • k

    Michael, the reason politicians dont talk about fed, bernanke, QE is because they are part of the financial markets as opposed to the real economy.

    Politicians usually dont talk about, ignore, dont bother about fin markets during campaigning. Maybe its because they think that its left best to the economists on tv to debate about it or they think people dont give a s**t about it.

    They were never historically a part of the political or public discourse.

    Maybe it should be, but it isnt.

  • Bill

    Michael, I agree with you on the issues, you raised, that were not discussed. There is only one reason for such a perfect avoidance. This was a controlled debate among all involved. It proves our agreement that there is no freedom of choice in selecting the government we Americans want. It proves that no matter who is elected under this puppet government the destruction of America will continue. Until a majority of true Americans agree to this fact AND agree to do something about it—it’s the same ole same ole.

    True Americans can start by voting for “not good enough” by a write in vote. For short just write in “No Good”. These votes are counted. Big numbers will get recognized. Do YOU care enough to make a difference? I pledge to vote “NO Good” until a True Americam Leader appears on the ballot. Do you?

  • Justanoguy

    This about sums it all up of why you are not going to get any real economic dialogue during a debate between the two branches of the one political party system:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-shhhh%E2%80%A6-it%E2%80%99s-even-worse-great-depression

    Neither branch wants to mess up a good thing going on in D.C.

    Just look at what happens to Ron Paul when you stray from the “system” and threaten to turn the status quo upside down with the truth.

  • jox

    American options remind me those of Spain one year ago. A lot of people was fed up with the president Zapatero. Everybody blamed the economical crisis on his socialist policies. The the spaniards elected a right wing president. He was going to put the economy ‘right’. Look the results, deep cuts, a lot of pain, people demonstrating on the street… I think that if you elect Romney, in one year there will be blood in the streets of America.

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      The Spaniard solution is hardly ‘right wing’. They arent cutting the size and scope of govt. They are merely reducing the deficit by cutting people’s salaries and pensions. Of course that’s gonna piss alot of people off. It’s like saying, “You put $10 on your charge card every day at Starbucks and you’re brooke. If you only put $5 on your charge card, you’ll be ok”.

      And even then, compare the ‘right wing’ Spaniard solution to the left wing socialist in France once all those policies come to fruition. People are fleeeeeeeing.

      If you wanna see actual differences between a right wing and left wing solution, see the depression of 1920 vs the GREAT depression of 1929 – 1939.

      There’s no way out of the pain, and you’re a liar for trying to insinuate that the right says there wont be. The difference is how long and how painful.

      http://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/spain-unveils-deep-budget-cuts-amid-eu-economic-fears-3802/

  • rhetorical questions (are fun)

    How can the leader of the executive branch of government create any jobs besides government jobs?

  • john.s

    t think the country is in BIG TROUBLE.

  • uncle bill

    But, but, but,,, gary 2 told me mitt didnt stand a chance and i believed it. How could this have happened?

    • Gary2

      mitt is toast. anyone with a brain can see this.

      • uncle bill

        of course hes the fall guy, he should not have steppd out of line and won the debate. In his second term O should send the traitors who refused to let him have his teleprompter to geetmo or femur summer camp.

  • Jodi

    I agree, you can’t talk about the economy without talking about the Fed. I didn’t expect anything new would come to the table. The debate was the typical talking points. I wonder if there will be a debate on foreign policy? I wonder if they will talk about the Middle East, Muslim Brotherhood & the ambassador that was killed? The truth needs to be told.

  • JoshB

    I totally agree with Rodster. The whole nomination process has become like an episode of southpark I once watched. Your choices are a giant douche or a terd sandwich. Where was any mention of the constitution?I have an idea how bout we get a canidate up there that wants restore our nation to what our founding fathers envisioned. One that is ruled by the people. Where is the canidate that will say “ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country?”

  • Syrin

    FOUR MORE YEARS !!

    FOUR MORE YEARS !!

    If we give the crack smoker four more years, he can ensure that 100% of jobs created, all 8 of them, will be low paying. Furthermore, in January, we get the single biggest tax increase in the history of the world. That will be the death blow to economy, one that people cannot recover from as everyone with ability will leave this country for more business friendly nations like China, Iran, Venezuela. Pretty much ANY nation on the planet not named the USA. We are already the most heavily taxed nation on the planet, but the problems we face aren’t the 80,000 PAGES of tax code, nor the 110,000 PAGES of regulation our poor businesses must navigate and surrender to, no, no no. Ask Gary. The problem is people aren’t giving ALL their property to the wonderful gov’t that has given such wonderful products such as the worst education system on the planet, the War on Drugs leading to the most addicted pop’l on the planet, the War on Poverty while we face record poverty, the War on Crime while we have some of the worst crime on the planet, mostly in dense virtually 100% democratic urban centers. Give the man child FOUR MORE YEARS to completely “transform” this nation from a land of hope and opportunity to one of despair and poverty. I know he can do it. Gary will help him.

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      “Give the man child FOUR MORE YEARS to completely “transform” this nation from a land of hope and opportunity to one of despair and poverty”

      OUCH!

    • Gary2

      taxes, especially on the rich are at the lowest level ever. Liberals like me always have a reality bias.

  • Ed

    While Romney trounced Obama, his performance was incredibly disappointing! He revealed himself to be softer version of the “Government Is The Answer” radicals lead by the Marxist in chief and his cronies. Any of the other original candidates for the GOP nomination would have delivered a knockout blow while Obama was sulking against the ropes with his hands down and his chin completely exposed. Unfortunately he has survived to fight another day, all because Romney true colors are PROGRESSIVE. He is part of the cancer that is destroying this country from within. God help us all.

  • maby

    this article is so much better than the debate .

  • Rietje

    “Blessed be the name of God forever and ever, to whom belong wisdom and might. He changes times and seasons; he removes kings and sets up kings; he gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to those who have understanding.” (Daniel 2:21)

  • Econman

    They should’ve just had the debate @ a bar & had the candidates/morons/puppets just talk about sports.

    These debates are a joke. Teachers have to be certified, doctors have to go to school forever, … How come these guys don’t have to take tests to make sure they know about the country they’ll be entrusted to run (into the ground).

  • Econman

    I’ve heard more substance in a debate between 2 drunks arguing over Absolut vs. Stolichnaya.

  • lee

    The only thing I would have hit that you mentioned, if were romney; would be to hit obama over the head that most of the jobs he’s creating are low paying and part-time and the offer little help to people struggling month to month to pay bills.

    But all the things you listed would have most people’s eyes glaze over.

    Unfortunately, no matter who wins; a second crash is imminent as neither are going to do enough radical change to stop the coming train.

    If it weren’t for Obamacare becomes almost unable to get out of if Obama gets 4 more years; I would be out campaigning for him as 4 more years of him might wake up enough people to turn the tide that the US has been heading down for decades now.

    Now matter who gets in, the next 4 years should show all Americans the real state of the country they live in. We’ll see if they go along willingly.

  • Dusty

    I listened to your TruNews interview last night; I read the article yesterday and then went to listen to TruNews like I do every night befiore bed, and I recognized your name and points that belonged to this article immediately! Good to know you and Rick Wiles are on the same page; I think Pastor Rick is a wise man and you guys are doing God’s work. Thank you! It really baffles me how people say they’re Obama supporters, and then when asked to provide an example of why they like him, they get all “Obama phone lady” on me and say, “Well, Romney sucks! BAD!” HELLO, are American’s really this stupid? Why am I being asked to vote for the lesser of 2 evils, and then being expected to forget that the lesser evil is still evil? I have learned in the past few months how brain dead most of my friends really are. It’s a shame.

  • http://Infowars.com Rey

    The perfect example of The Hegelian Dialectic.

  • http://www.survive2balive.com GA

    Even if they did talk about it there ain’t a damn thing they can do about it. It’s too far gone. DRASTIC measures are required an there is not an empty suit in DC willing to push the reset button. Enjoy today because in a few years these days will be looked back on as the good ole days.

  • SanMateo

    What about the looming federal cuts coming at the end of the year and the fact that taxes will rise at least $2000 per year for most working families? I support federal spending cuts but not reckless defense cuts and certainly I am against increased taxes for any working Americans. Not one reference to this. Senate leader Harry Reid said this will not even come up until after the election however there will be little time after the election and the end of the year for them to be in session.

  • Bob

    Actually Michael, Obama did mention outsourcing how they need to stop companies which move jobs overseas from getting tax breaks for it. Romney landed a couple of nice blows on the real issues when he mentioned Obama’s fascism by bailing out the big banks and rewarding big green contracts to those who have supported him with legal bribes during his campaign.

    • Michael

      Bob:

      That is a good point – I forgot about that one.

      Michael

  • Imaplaneiac

    Michael, and fellow bloggers, I just checked http://www.mittromney.com for any references that address the sixteen above issues. I found none.

    For the record, I’m voting AGAINST the DEMONcrats – as I ALWAYS do in every election!

    • Gary2

      u r retarded

      • Libs are Turds

        Shut up pinko commie rat libturd troll.

  • Patriotone

    This whole financial mess we are in stems from both parties. In the 1990′s they both supported NAFTA & the WTO. Easy money Greenspan kept it flowing into the economy while good paying jobs left. Thereby creating the false prosperity and malinvestment in tech. That wasn’t enough because, after the tech crash, they then moved more easy money and legislation to inflate real estate. Creating more malinvestment and false prosperity. They are doing the same thing again with government and the dollar.

    All this was done to take Americans eyes off of the real problem. The lose of good paying manufacturing job here in America.

    The American worker was laid upon the alter and sacrificed for corporate profit.

    SAY NO TO FREE TRADE, THIS IS THE REAL CAUSE OF LOST PROSPERITY.

    • Kathy Smith

      Patriotone very good comment it amazes me how they harp on helping the middle class while continuing to ship our jobs over seas.

    • Richard Crooks

      What happened to Obama’s spirit. I hope you get on the stick and take Romney for a real shalking in the next debate. You can’t give up now we have come so far and so many people are counting on you. Get Romney up against the wall..

    • Kathy Lohberger

      YOU are RIGHT

  • ALICE

    It seemed to me this was a debate by an Entitled vs. Untitled attitudes…Public vs private mentality. The Entitled fall asleep on the job, while the Un entitled can’t fall asleep because they’ll get FIRED…The private will always be more alert, than the public…More productive…

  • The Claymobile.

    Did not watch the debate. Both candidates are WEASEL politicians . We have a choice between Obama and Obama Lite. Some choice! Why the brain dead, moronic, stupid Republicans nominated another RINO like McCain is hard to fathom! We need a principled statesman who is willing to make the hard choices to lead America out of the horrible condition it is in. Both candidates fail this qualification miserably! Very depressing.

    • Maz

      If we had a candidate that would really talk about the issues, that candidate would never stand a chance in an election. Last person to do that was Barry Goldwater when he ran against Lyndon B.Johnson. Goldwater got beat and everything he stated during the campaign came true. Every thing LBJ said turned out to be wrong. American Public just can’t stand the truth.

  • Washington

    Agenda 21 explained very well. Including implications it will have on humanity. Opinions within the video come in some cases from those that were in on the negotiations. Truly an interesting watch.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzEEgtOFFlM&feature=player_embedded

  • Senna

    Dude, This is brilliant.

  • http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/16-critical-economic-issues-that-obama-and-romney-avoided-during-the-debate Hallen

    We haven’t seen a real good debate since Ross Perot in the 1992 election cycle. Ross Perot told us the giant sucking sound we will hear will be the jobs leaving America.

    Those who supported NAFTA and all the other trade agreements are responsible for the unemployment and the economic down turn.

    Those who supported tax incentives for manufacturers to leave America are responsible.

    Now the real question to ask, who did this to us. Answer, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama and Romney.

    Americans are responsible too for voting for these guys.

    • JMorcan

      “Americans are responsible too for voting for these guys.”

      Not me. I have a policy against validating liars and hypocrites.

  • dianec

    I need to say two things (and maybe more) :)

    Romney did mention that he will change (Dodd-Frank) the regulations so we DO NOT have these current big banks that are too big to fail. All the money has been going to them and not to the smaller banks. He mentioned a few thinks about Dodd-Frank.

    Romney ALSO mentioned he will not let “us” go the path of Spain.

    So he DID mention some of the issues without saying it the way you wanted it said. If I am not mistaken, that means stimulis, FED money, TARP and Europe failing.

    So many people think that Romney needs to be more clear and give more details, however he is very good at stating what he plans to do and that is to bring jobs back, and work on the debt issues. Details may be dangerous because once a person gets into that White House and SEE EVERYTHING that is wrong, trying to fix what 50-80 years has done to this country may be impossible, especially in 4-8 years.

    Yes, as one person commented, he is the lesser of two evils. However what another person said here also is this MAY be the last election given what is going on in this World. I would rather have Romney in there than Obama if this is true!!

  • Rowell

    Good questions to ask. But I have one question…Who is to blame for this?

    The answer is: The American people. They don’t know or even care to know the answers to the important questions. They want to make sure that they, themselves, as individuals, are going to do okay under whoever is elected president. That means the people on food stamps, that means the owner of the small business, that means the stock brokers and bankers. They all care about #1….themselves, and damn everyone else.

    It’s not about what the next president can do for the country.
    It’s about what the next president can do for them.

    Will the next president lower taxes? Will the next president take away mortgage interest deductions? Will the next president cut social security/medicare/food stamps? Will the next president cut defense spending? So on and so forth. It all comes down to two things: 1) “What will you take away from me?” and 2) “What will you give to me?”

    That’s what most Americans are like these days.

    • Richard Crooks

      This is so true. Americans drive arount in their foreign cars and shop at Chna Stores and then blame Obama for high unemployment. Are we brain dead. Get off your ass and take back government and our country.

  • JH

    I am no Obama supporter, but that guy that interviewed you on TruNews is bat******** crazy.

  • CAngel

    To tell the truth, I couldn’t make myself watch it. I didn’t feel like puking that night.

  • http://www.surviving12-21-2012.blogspot.com doctor blue

    IF I were president?
    I would make it illegal to Lobby or to accept a gift of cash or property or anything of value from a Lobbyist.
    I would make it illegal to ship jobs over seas.
    I would make it illegal to do business with business who has overseas workers, IF they want overseas workers they can sell those products ONLY overseas and NOT in America.
    IF China can sell a Jeep Grand Cherokee for $98,000 then I think a solar panel made in China should sell here in America for about $1,000 minium.
    I would close all the borders, I would ship home illegal immagrants.
    I would STOP feeding, caring, stop free medical and STOP the hiring of illegal aliens and any one caught doing so would pay extremely high fines and the second time they got caught they would go to jail 10 years minimum.
    I would have lower taxes on the poor, lower taxes on the middle class and close a LOT of loop holes on all the deductions the rich and the well to do enjoy so as NOT to raise taxes but to generate income from closing loop holes.
    I would make the 28,000 pages of IRS regulations down to 10 pages MAXIUM and then I would fire and close the IRS.
    I would close the Housing administration, the Education department and the Interstate Commerce department.
    I would fire and close the Federal Reserve and have congress print our own money.
    I would back our money with gold, silver or land since the Goverment owns so much land we can back out currancy in land.
    IF I were president I would repeal NAFTA, and the NDAA bill.
    I would make the Federal Government smaller and make the States more powerful as it was suppose to be in our Constitution.
    I would CLOSE all the FEMA camps in which you will soon find yourself imprisoned very soon and I would burn all the FEMA coffins stored around the country to put you in IF they don’t like you…
    I would raise tarrifs on products manufactured outside the country until business over seas cried unkle and moved them BACK into America.
    I would re-institute the CCC and have them fix, build etc. our failing infrastructure.
    It’s not fair that a country can have slave labor make products to sell in America at bargain basement prices and we have to compete with that. I say we do NOT allow businesses to import products who treat employees as slaves or sub-standard workers.
    STOP being a corporate entity and be a Republic like the Constitution envisioned it to be. Stop putting bonds on ALL Birth certificates payable to the World Bank or the IMF upon our death. (Yep it’s true)
    It’s not fair that some business overseas have Government help to prop them up so they can sell their goods BELOW what it cost them to make the items they make JUST so they can drive the compitetion OUT of business and then the Government help stops when the American competition is out of business then they can raise the prices and THEN they fairly compete. This practice has to stop.
    ONLY IF I were President I would FIRE EVERYONE and re-hire everyone all over again from the ranks of the unemployees.
    IF I were president I would stop banks from being to big to fail, I would STOP them from doing derivatives, credit default swaps etc. Gambling with your money is what they are doing. I would put EVERY banker, invester etc. who broke the law (trust) of the people and put them all in jail for a very long time. And the people who STOLE money from private accounts to gamble with would go to jail for a VERY VERY long time too.
    The sign on my desk would say “The Buck STOPS Here”.
    I would stop the printing of worthless money.
    I would fire the EPA and have states have there own EPA and EPA laws they would enforce.
    Any Questions? NO, Then your fired…

    • http://yahoo.com richard swank

      DR. YOU HAVE MY VOTE

      • Richard Crooks

        Dr. Blue you have it right on the head. The whole system has to have a complete overhaul and get rid of the whole bunch. The country is in the toilet and nothing is being done. A bunch of idiots bitching about everything thats going on with each other on the internet and nothing happens. GET YOUR ASS OFF THE INTERNET AND HIT THE STREETS. The country is in the toilet and if it keeps going it only a matter of time tell China flushs

        • http://militantjeffersonian.com Republicae

          While I am in agreement with the majority of what the Dr. has written, I do have a major problem with the following and for very good reasons:

          “I would make it illegal to ship jobs over seas.
          I would make it illegal to do business with business who has overseas workers, IF they want overseas workers they can sell those products ONLY overseas and NOT in America.”

          Again, you are asking for the government to intervene in an area that should totally and absolutely be governed by the market alone. That being said, the market today is not free therefore, the idea that more government intervention will help the situation by limiting businesses as you suggest, does not actually address the problem. The problem is too much government meddling in the affairs of the market, too many laws and far too many regulations that tend to favor the very industries that are being regulated.

          The idea that making it illegal to ship jobs overseas or to limit the ability of a business to do business freely as it sees fit smacks of the very thing that you are railing against. What should be done is getting this cronyism our of the market, to stop the unfair advantages, tax incentives and Mercantilism that prevails in this country today which, if the truth be known is little more than a form of fascism or corporatism, mixing the power of government patronages with the power of corporate influences.

          Again, you seem to suggest that by limiting the choices of the consumer you are doing the consumer or this country a favor when in fact just the opposite is true. The competition of the market must be restored, when that happens, when the government and its powerful influence is removed from the market then you will see the equalization of market forces, the balance of trade that is more closely associated with the principles of the free market. Only in a market free of such government influences and intervention will this country once again witness a revival of prosperity. For the last 150 years we have seen a gradual increase of government intervention into the market, it has not helped this country only hindered it and to assume that by making it illegal for either businesses or consumers to have a real market choice will help matters defies the very principles of the free market and the ideals upon which this country was founded.

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      “I would make it illegal to do business with business who has overseas workers, If they want overseas workers they can sell those products ONLY overseas and NOT in America.”

      The results of this stupid policy would kill coffee and companies like Folgers and Starbucks. I’d prolly end up a moonbat in a matter of weeks without coffee. No thanks.

      • Richard Crooks

        You are so right. The politicians aren’t going to do anything except lie cheat and fill their pockets. Screw the American Public

    • Kathy Lohberger

      YOU HAVE MY VOTE TOO

  • El Pollo de Oro

    The debate was a sham, just as the two-party system is a sham. It might have been an interesting debate if Gary Johnson and Jill Stein had been allowed to participate, but no, the presstitutes are collaborators in the abomination that is The Banana Republic of America’s two-party system.

    “We have an election coming up between Romney and Obama. It’s not the lesser of two evils: it’s the greater of two stooges. These are no choices.”—Gerald Celente

    “If you vote for the lesser of two evils in a criminal organization, you are an accessory to a crime—the crime being committed against democracy and freedom in America. If you voted for one of the two members of the two-headed one-party system, you are an accessory to the crime.”—Gerald Celente

    “I will not vote for the lesser of two evils. I will not support this criminality any longer. I will not vote for the Gambinos or the Bonannos. I will not vote for the Republicans or the Democrats. To me, it’s a two-bit freak show.”—Gerald Celente

    “We have two choices, only two. And it’s not Romney or Obama. It’s fascism or freedom, and I’m voting for freedom.”—Gerald Celente

    “I’m all for Ron Paul: let’s end these wars, bring back the troops and rebuild America.”—Gerald Celente

    “The policies of George W. Bush have been assiduously carried out, for the large part, by Barack Obama. Even figures like Dick Cheney have confirmed this.”—Chris Hedges

    “George Orwell would be shocked if he saw what was happening. It’s far greater than he could have ever imagined.”—Gerald Celente

    “Because we have a zombie population living in a trance, the criminal elite have gotten away with things that are just staggering.”—Alex Jones

    Welcome to the fall of the Roman Empire. Welcome to The Banana Republic of America and its rotten two-party system.

  • Michael

    One of the readers of this site named Melody has started a blog of her own….

    http://emergencypreparedness911.blogspot.com/

    I love when others start their own sites because the more people spreading this kind of information the better. :)

    Michael

  • http://none Brody Warner

    They are allowing Obama to loose with dignity. Give the communist some credit for trying.

  • Mark

    Michael,
    I agree with you that these are very important points. However, the forum structure restricts debate and the time allotted is sadly, not near enough. We desperately need more debating time. And yes, bad times will come our way, it’s just that I would rather they be bad times under Romney instead of more serious bad times under Obama. And by the way, I very much enjoy your blog. Thanks, Mark

    And to the Ron Paul supporters,
    I don’t care who are candidate would have been, I would enthusiastically support that person. Romney was not my first choice either but, he is our only chance at defeating Obama. That is what is critical here. We can deal with other issues later. We need your support now!

    And to the “tune-out” crowd,
    I have to tell you, the world does not revolve around you.

    • Brandon

      Sorry Mark,

      I am never again going to vote “against” someone. Only for someone. The lesser of two evils is still evil.

      Gary Johnson all the way!

      • Mark

        Then on that premise I submit, in your opinion you would be voting for the lesser of three evils.

  • Sharon Buck

    It would be impossible to hit every topic that really needs to be addressed in a 2-hour debate. What would be helpful is if a list of serious questions was submitted to each candidate and they would simply go down the list and answer each one without accusations, taking turns. That way we would have substance, be able to see (I think the visual is important)their body language as they speak, and hear their words. As long as we have this 2-party system, elections are going to be contrived. As long as it requires so much money, good people are going to be excluded. Name-calling and derision aren’t helpful. Romney isn’t a crook. He’s just a guy who thinks he can make a difference. Obama also wants to make a difference. Unfortunately if he is allowed to stay, we won’t be able to tell the difference between us and other socialist countries in four years! If there are true statesmen out there, they aren’t stepping up. Personally I think we would recognize them because they would stand out so clearly. So, we’re stuck, aren’t we? Stop complaining, be upright, live honestly, serve others, and trust God!

  • Gary2

    Jobs Report: U.S. Economy Adds 114,000 Jobs In September; Jobless Rate Down To 7.8 Percent

    Mittens is gonna loose! ha ha ha ha

    • Mark
    • REED RICHARDS

      Gary2,

      Another Obama lie and deception. Just like Obama’s Department of Labor has told all Defense Contractors to not give 60 day layoff notices to contractor employees whose contracts expired 30 September until “AFTER THE ELECTION”. Once the election is over and those “convenient two month extensions expire”, then heads are going to roll and job losses mount.

      There is no way that the unemployment rate dropped that sharply in just one month.

      But that aside, another four years of Obama or four years of Romney will put the final nail in the coffin of the Amerikan empire……………..

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      The propaganda office did their jobs.

      Despite the ridiculously obvious manipulation, slack jawed morons like Gary parrot it like it’s real.

      http://www.theblaze.com/stories/influential-september-jobs-report-unemployment-drops-to-7-8/

      BTW moron, it’s ‘lose’.

    • GSOB

      its fixed Gary2

      regardless of who gets in, the majority of us common folk lose.

    • uncle bill

      So maybe just lately slightly more people ran out of their 99 weeks unemployment and stopped being counted as unemployed. they didnt find jobs to bring the rate down. the big O could tell you night is day and up is down. Of course he couldnt tell u that without a teleprompter, just ah, um, welll…. But damn is he good at sucking sheep like gary in, thats why he is the chosen one for the job. But you know that deep down dont you.

  • RICH99

    Well like my brother says…….its the communists that are trying to destroy the country……..hahahahahahah
    If it were the communists then I would be getting a piece of the pie and I’m not !!!!
    Just another fox news Glenn beck fool

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      “If it were the communists then I would be getting a piece of the pie and I’m not !!!!”

      That was just the lie of communism and the folly of the stupid people that believe it. So doesn’t that make you the fool. That aint a question either.

      Poor stupid democrat zombie. You can call Glenn all the names you want, but you sure as hell cant point out how he’s wrong.

      • RICH99

        I sure can…..what TRUTH does he really talk about ???? The fed , the derivatives ?

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          Obviously you dont watch. He’s talked about both. And BTW, NOT talking about something doesn’t make you wrong about what you DO talk about.

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          Instead of listening to your leftist masters, why doncha just listen and watch. You may not agree with everything, but where and when does that happen? I’m not holding my breath for you to point out how he’s wrong.

  • REED RICHARDS

    Michael,

    Seeing as how I was part of an elite group that had the presence of mind and force of intellect to not watch that silly “debate” for all the reasons you mentioned and more, I must say it is instructive to note that this is not the first vapid, substance free debate. Not by a long shot. Amerikans have been getting substance free debates since and before all third party and independent candidates were excluded (after Ross Perot). Personally, I am tickled pink and believe that the sheeple are getting exactly what they deserve seeing as how 98 percent plus are going to vote for “THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS” as they see it……………..

    • Lynsey

      Reed, as someone who agrees with your position, I can’t agree with the sentiment. Is it not somewhat spiteful to be tickled pink that the sheeple are getting exactly what they deserve, in light of the fact that you (assuming you reside in America) are also subject to the bull******? I guess I just still feel naive enough to believe that slowly, but hopefully surely, the sheeple are waking up? I feel like it’s the only thing that gives me hope, I’m not ready to adopt the defeatist attitude.. :/

  • Mark

    Presidential debates are a way for the candidate and incumbent to take a few last shots towards wooing the uninformed and the undecided. Those people don’t know QE from GE, derivatives from directions, and probably think that Ben Bernanke and the Federal Reserve is the name of a 50’s swing band. Anyone who doesn’t know by now who they’re voting for, or why they’re not gonna vote should probably go ahead and sit this whole thing out, anyway.

  • Washington

    Keyes to the Republic Vol. 1 President Obama and Mitt Romney. Our Nation faces a great crisis and the integrity of our Republic is at stake. Barack Obama offers a path of socialism; but is there real hope in the alternative?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R4KtYVF-74&feature=endscreen

  • concerned person

    Oh come on Michael. We know the really important topic is whether the government will keep paying for Sesame Street. /sarc rolls eyes

  • Zharkov

    Obama’s vision of America looks more like Zimbabwe every day. The U.S. dollar is quickly becoming worthless, producers are leaving the country as fast as possible, and government employees are doing asset seizures of our citizen’s assets. An impotent Congress is watching from the sidelines, doing nothing but cheering the demolition job done by both political parties.

    It’s time to re-read our Declaration of Independence for further instructions.

  • http://www.TrumpetCallofGodonline.com Thomas Hildebrand

    “”Thus says The Lord of Hosts to all the sons and daughters of this, the last generation of men: You have all inherited the error of your fathers! You have altogether become like them! Behold, you have surpassed the sins of ancient Egypt, when I poured out My wrath upon them! Your wickedness has increased beyond every tribe, people, and nation, which has dwelled upon the earth!… THIS GENERATION IS WICKED BEYOND MEASURE!
    Thus great wrath is stirred up and My indignation has come to the full! My anger is fully aroused and shall surely be poured out!… RECOMPENSE for all nations! RECOMPENSE for all these churches of men who have spoken presumptuously in My name! RECOMPENSE for all these corrupt workers who have done falsely on My behalf!… I HAVE NOT SENT YOU!
    And you, O peoples of the earth, I have seen how you perform every form of evil at your leisure! You cease not from reveling in that which I hate! Behold, you murder the innocent day and night and plot evil against your neighbor! You stand up for the rights of those who commit abomination and clap your hands as wickedness is celebrated openly in the streets!… O MOST PERVERSE AND ABOMINABLE GENERATION, SHALL I NOT REPAY?!
    Behold, My body is persecuted in every land, and My bride is murdered at the hands of idolators! My people are bruised and beaten! My servants slandered and hated, without cause! Therefore I am come down to take vengeance, to pour out wrath upon this people for all their wickedness!… I SHALL IMPART RECOMPENSE IN FULL!””

    THE TIME HAS COME!…
    Hear the WORD of the LORD spoken to THIS modern generation!…

    Letters from God and His Christ, given to a modern man for modern man’s sake!…

    http://www.TrumpetCallofGodonline.com

    http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=ABASEMENT

  • Dr. Dana

    A COUPLE of EMPTY SUITES…

  • pkeyrie

    Neither is any good ,both are bought and paid for ,But i would like to see the back end of that bigoted obnoxious arrogant full of himself Ospama

  • http://www.facebook.com/erikcb84 Erik Bergum

    Obama and Romney definitely need to look at the 16 issues. I think if Romney is elected, he should definitely take a hard look at all of these issues. That definitely would bring real change to America.

    • Lynsey

      It’s funny. I feel like simply acknowledging that all this corruption and mismanagement exists will render either opponent the undeniable winner. (Like so many self-help program say acknowledging the problem is the first step to resolving it). But, that’s assuming all voters are educated enough to attribute the appropriate level of importance to each issue at hand.

  • Kathy Lohberger

    Dear Lord Jesus please have mercy on our country and help it QUICKLY we’re in need…in Jesus name. Amen

  • http://n/a jgouig

    I didn’t bother to watch. I know what those things are like: 2 guys barking at each other. The Unreality that the American people have bought into is astounding, and this is what pushes all the problems forward. The average Man on the Street has never heard of quantitative easing or derivatives; he’s mostly concerned with what color tie the candidates are wearing. And yet these are the people who vote. Isn’t that scary?!

    I’m glad I didn’t waste my time.

  • SMASH THE CONTROL MACHINE

    ITS THE FOOD STAMPS, STUPID!!!!!

  • Buzz Mann

    Has anyone seen 2016? That has not been addressed by anyone. Has anyone looked at how many executive orders Obama has made and what they are? Scary stuff. Ron Paul was our best bet, but the powers that be did not want their boat rocked so they(media) basically eliminated him. Obama, a great orator, but would love to be a dictator if he could. I hate to say this but one should vote for Romney unless they want to live in an interment camp or be the employees of the new sweat shop capitol of the world.

  • http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/16-critical-economic-issues-that-obama-and-romney-avoided-during-the-debate Hallen

    Those who would like a biblical perspective on voting for the lesser of the two evils.

    http://www.missiontoisrael.org/vote.php

  • Tall Tom

    I disagree with #5. Obama did mention it in reference to stopping the Tax Subsidies given to corporations that offshore their activites. I am sorry. I paid attention…

    I also paid more Conscious attention to their Body Language as that told me a lot more about the messages and who was likely to prevail than I did to their words. The words, as you know, as I knew, were not going to be anything of real substance.

    But according to Zogby International, Obama, regardless of the debates, will be victorious. The Silver Lining is really a Gold one. The price of Gold should soar, according to Zogby International when polling investors about their plans after November.

    Buy Gold.

  • linda

    Ha! The REAL discussion needs to be had over the future of what we call “work” today. And NOBODY even comes CLOSE to touching that one…
    The 5-day, 40-hour week is an anachronism. Anything that can be done via digital technology can be done in a fraction of the time it could be done 50 years ago. Obviously, if you allow corporate interests to capitalize on that by paying workers at the old pre-digital rates, yet they are getting so much more productivity…Well, you don’t have to be a genius to figure out what happens next.
    It’s happening today. More work is being done by fewer workers, yet the overall wages are in steep decline. Corporate profits at an all-time high, so much so that risks unthinkable a few decades ago are now standard operating procedure, simply because the gamblers see an unlimited source of funding, and very limited payback if something goes wrong.
    Meanwhile, the labor class has to make do with less and less. Now the powers-that-be are trying to convince people that it isn’t their GREED that caused the problem, but their neighbors NEED…all those envious lazy unwashed hordes…
    ****************************

  • Homer Simpson

    What debate? Dancing With The Stars was on.

  • badbrian from grass valley

    Michael, you are attracting some really intellegent people to comment on your blogs.You may be approaching ZH with quality of your writings ( in your style of course) As proof of this trend I offer that even Gary 2 comments far less than he used to. Does anybody think that this trend may be having an effect on him? If so , it shows that there is hope for just about about anyone.

    • Michael

      I am so thankful for all of the wonderful people that leave comments on these articles. I think that a terrific community has developed around this site, and I am very excited about that.

      Michael

      • Dano

        I only wish people all over the US would see this blog, as they would stop believing the bullschmidt the one-party system throws our way.

  • Norma. Ippolito

    @Richard Crooks, you said. Get Up and hit the trees…!!! And Do What Out On The Streets…???

  • MaryAnn Stuart

    I have no idea what derivatives and quantitative easings are, and I suspect that I am not the only one, so why would they be mentioned in a short timeframe for the general public.
    Point #5 is not true.
    The candidates were not free to choose all their own topics, so why blame them?
    And because O. did not hear things the first time, R. had to repeat many things over and over, instead of bringing up new issues.
    R. did explain his plans. So, the author of this article could have done a much better job of writing the truth. And, if derivatives and quantitative easings are so important, whatever they are (they’re not in the Constitution), then the author could have explained them, since R. did not have time to do so, and O. probably does not know what they are, either.

    • john doe

      If you don’t know what Q.E. and Derivatives are maybe you should spend some time learning about them rather than bashing the points. Derivatives are “bets,” so gambling with your money and calling it insurance. QE is printing more paper money and flooding the market with it, with no backing, which makes the little bit you have in your pocket worth less every day, thus the increase in all costs like food, fuel, ect., all the things you need to make it day to day. If I can get a “general public” handle on them, I think you could too. And just for your info Im not a finance person, but an unemployed (layed off) telecom worker- so much for unions protecting our jobs. What a joke.

  • JT$$

    I’m with Dr. Blue

  • Knavechild

    Wanna see something that will make you want to smash your monitor? Watch this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXZNFTVzD_w&list=FLn7MT-6RTrlDzPqJ9TeRQBw

    DemocracyNow.org – As President Obama and Mitt Romney prepare to square off in Denver, Colorado tonight, we look at how the Democrats and Republicans manage to shut out all third parties from the presidential debates. The Obama and Romney campaigns have secretly negotiated a detailed contract that dictates many of the terms of the 2012 presidential debates. This includes who gets to participate, as well as the topics raised during the debates. We’re joined by George Farah, founder and executive director of Open Debates, and author of the book, “No Debate: How the Republican and Democratic Parties Secretly Control the Presidential Debates.”

    AMAZING!!!!

  • Bob Marshall

    America has to have the most ignorant citizens on God’s green earth when it come to our government.

  • Rancher

    Hey… The limp wristed light in the loafers moderator did not ask about any of those topics either. Go figure?

  • Cathy M

    Part of the “47 percent” video where Romney was busted talking to supporters about 47% on the dole who probably wouldn’t vote for him also contained a segment where he is explaining what the Fed is doing and what deep trouble we are going to be in. My instict is that Romney knows exactly what is going on, but resists sounding the alarms for fear of being demonized by the lame stream media and many of the uninformed idiots wouldn’t get it anyway.

  • Washington

    1929 : The Great Crash.

    Examining the causes of the Wall Street Crash, when the US stock market lost a third of its value over six desperate days in October 1929, causing the loss of more than $25billion in individual wealth. 3,000 banks later failed and took investors’ savings with them. People who lived through that turbulent period describe the biggest financial catastrophe in history.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp1CttLLR0k&feature=related

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