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19 Facts About The Deindustrialization Of America That Will Blow Your Mind

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The United States is rapidly becoming the very first “post-industrial” nation on the globe.  All great economic empires eventually become fat and lazy and squander the great wealth that their forefathers have left them, but the pace at which America is accomplishing this is absolutely amazing.  It was America that was at the forefront of the industrial revolution.  It was America that showed the world how to mass produce everything from automobiles to televisions to airplanes.  It was the great American manufacturing base that crushed Germany and Japan in World War II.  But now we are witnessing the deindustrialization of America.  Tens of thousands of factories have left the United States in the past decade alone.  Millions upon millions of manufacturing jobs have been lost in the same time period.  The United States has become a nation that consumes everything in sight and yet produces increasingly little.  Do you know what our biggest export is today?  Waste paper.  Yes, trash is the number one thing that we ship out to the rest of the world as we voraciously blow our money on whatever the rest of the world wants to sell to us.  The United States has become bloated and spoiled and our economy is now  just a shadow of what it once was.  Once upon a time America could literally outproduce the rest of the world combined.  Today that is no longer true, but Americans sure do consume more than anyone else in the world.  If the deindustrialization of America continues at this current pace, what possible kind of a future are we going to be leaving to our children?

Any great nation throughout history has been great at making things.  So if the United States continues to allow its manufacturing base to erode at a staggering pace how in the world can the U.S. continue to consider itself to be a great nation?  We have created the biggest debt bubble in the history of the world in an effort to maintain a very high standard of living, but the current state of affairs is not anywhere close to sustainable.  Every single month America does into more debt and every single month America gets poorer.

So what happens when the debt bubble pops?

The deindustrialization of the United States should be a top concern for every man, woman and child in the country.  But sadly, most Americans do not have any idea what is going on around them.

For people like that, take this article and print it out and hand it to them.  Perhaps what they will read below will shock them badly enough to awaken them from their slumber.    

The following are 19 facts about the deindustrialization of America that will blow your mind….

#1 The United States has lost approximately 42,400 factories since 2001. 

#2 Dell Inc., one of America’s largest manufacturers of computers, has announced plans to dramatically expand its operations in China with an investment of over $100 billion over the next decade.

#3 Dell has announced that it will be closing its last large U.S. manufacturing facility in Winston-Salem, North Carolina in November.  Approximately 900 jobs will be lost.

#4 In 2008, 1.2 billion cellphones were sold worldwide.  So how many of them were manufactured inside the United States?  Zero.

#5 According to a new study conducted by the Economic Policy Institute, if the U.S. trade deficit with China continues to increase at its current rate, the U.S. economy will lose over half a million jobs this year alone.

#6 As of the end of July, the U.S. trade deficit with China had risen 18 percent compared to the same time period a year ago.

#7 The United States has lost a total of about 5.5 million manufacturing jobs since October 2000.

#8 According to Tax Notes, between 1999 and 2008 employment at the foreign affiliates of U.S. parent companies increased an astounding 30 percent to 10.1 million. During that exact same time period, U.S. employment at American multinational corporations declined 8 percent to 21.1 million.

#9 In 1959, manufacturing represented 28 percent of U.S. economic output.  In 2008, it represented 11.5 percent.

#10 Ford Motor Company recently announced the closure of a factory that produces the Ford Ranger in St. Paul, Minnesota. Approximately 750 good paying middle class jobs are going to be lost because making Ford Rangers in Minnesota does not fit in with Ford’s new “global” manufacturing strategy.

#11 As of the end of 2009, less than 12 million Americans worked in manufacturing.  The last time less than 12 million Americans were employed in manufacturing was in 1941.

#12 In the United States today, consumption accounts for 70 percent of GDP. Of this 70 percent, over half is spent on services.

#13 The United States has lost a whopping 32 percent of its manufacturing jobs since the year 2000.

#14 In 2001, the United States ranked fourth in the world in per capita broadband Internet use.  Today it ranks 15th.

#15 Manufacturing employment in the U.S. computer industry is actually lower in 2010 than it was in 1975.

#16 Printed circuit boards are used in tens of thousands of different products.  Asia now produces 84 percent of them worldwide.

#17 The United States spends approximately $3.90 on Chinese goods for every $1 that the Chinese spend on goods from the United States.

#18 One prominent economist is projecting that the Chinese economy will be three times larger than the U.S. economy by the year 2040.

#19 The U.S. Census Bureau says that 43.6 million Americans are now living in poverty and according to them that is the highest number of poor Americans in the 51 years that records have been kept.

So how many tens of thousands more factories do we need to lose before we do something about it?

How many millions more Americans are going to become unemployed before we all admit that we have a very, very serious problem on our hands?

How many more trillions of dollars are going to leave the country before we realize that we are losing wealth at a pace that is killing our economy?

How many once great manufacturing cities are going to become rotting war zones like Detroit before we understand that we are committing national economic suicide?

The deindustrialization of America is a national crisis.  It needs to be treated like one.

If you disagree with this article, I have a direct challenge for you.  If anyone can explain how a deindustrialized America has any kind of viable economic future, please do so below in the comments section.

America is in deep, deep trouble folks.  It is time to wake up.

  • Very sobering information about the state of our economy and the issues we need to be focused on fixing. However, no one in leadership is discussing these issues let along trying to solve them. This situation will only lead to further joblessness, poverty and underemployment except for investment bankers.

  • Patriot One

    Repeal NAFTA!! Ross said it well back in the 90’s. Remember the huge sucking sound he discribed, that will be jobs leaving the United States. 20 year later how true it is.

  • sonnyboy

    As a nation we traded working with our hands for working with our mouths. Too many talkers and not enough doers. It is going to continue to spiral downward for quite some time. A second “George Washington” type of leader will hopefully lead us out of this mess at some point. The new REPUBLIC OF AMERICA will eventually emerge. Birth pangs accompany birth and the next 10 to 15 years will be the most difficult time in our history. In the meantime say goodbye to much of what is taken for granted today.

  • Pappy

    Everyone knows action is needed but what form will that take? This year an angry electorate will replace Democrats with a new flock of Republicans similar to those they angrily replaced with Democrats in the preceding election. We continue to foam at the mouth and chase our tails on our way to purchase foreign made goods at the Chinese mega-factory outlets. The best idea I’ve seen appeared as a comment here in reply to a previous post. We need some wealthy patriotic entrepreneurs to establish companies that produce and market ONLY U.S. merchandise. Most of our countrymen and women are becoming aware of the looming crises and would likely cough up the few extra dollars to help avert or delay the bleak future promised by this disasterous trade imbalance.

  • Mike

    You can think the mindless leftists and the regulations they have been imposing on companies in the US. The costs associated with hiring an American: every thing from payroll taxes, to covering their health insurance, is enormous.

    To add to all that, you have the Civil Rights Act, which has degraded America’s civil services, by forcing municipalities and state governments to abolish the use of competency tests for hiring and promotion purposes (since it leads to too few minorities being hired/promoted, which opens them up to lawsuits via the Civil Rights Act).

  • Scott M.

    One word: Communism.

  • Matt

    Yeah he has it right. The people that run the world want America down and borders to disappear. How can we be fighting an apparent “war on terror” but our borders are left wide open?

    Do an article on things like this that just don’t make sense if you are to believe what they are telling us on face value.

  • Something Wicked This Way Comes

    We screwed the pooch. And because we have lost all of those manufacturing jobs- we simply do not have the capacity to pay off our debt.

    And the FED just keeps buying and buying and buying…3 failed CREDIT UNION got bailed today= taxpayers.

    I just keep wondering what cataclysmic event is going to send this whole scrap heap of a nation into the abyss…I can’t tell ya what it is…but its coming.

  • Chris L

    I agree America’s industrial power certainly helped crush Japan, and it was a big factor against Germany, but I think we have to remember that during WWII one of the biggest factors leading to Germany’s defeat was the 20,000,000 people who died in the former USSR who bore the brunt of the Nazi wrath and who fought those Nazi sob’s tooth and nail. Let’s give the Russians their due and not take all the credit.

  • Whatdoyoupropose?

    I think a lot of people know about it. But do you propose people actually do about it? What can they do about it? The only thing that America creates that the world wants is the UFC. Dana White for President of the US!

  • Automation Bob

    I startup factories for a living and the jobs breakdown into 2 categories. College required jobs and essentially physical labor jobs. Most of the college educated employees can still find jobs in many parts of the US at non-factory firms. Engineers, accountants, marketing, sales, HR, IT, etc…. You just have to MOVE where the jobs are, just look on the Web!
    I do not mean to sound cruel but it has NEVER been the responsibility of a society to provide high paying jobs for manual labor positions that are mastered in a few weeks of training!
    Most modern machines are controlled by computer automation and the machine operators are no more skilled than a barista at Starbucks. One of the first factories I ever visited back in 1989 was a plant in Chicago where almost all the operators were illegals and could not speak a WORD of english!
    Bringing factories back to the US will NOT fix the problem. Advanced education will make a serious dent in the problem but you still have to choose the growing career paths, not be a philosophy major!

  • Good riddance. Destroying the landbase to make crap wasn’t very smart to begin with. I’d be happier than a pig in shit to see America completely deindustrialize.

    If the rest of the world wants to follow, that would be nice too. I mean, peak oil/peak rare earths, etc. will make that choice for us if we don’t elect to do it ourselves.

  • The solution is perfectly obvious. Firstly, cancel the ‘wars’, and bring ALL the troops home from your 700 and something overseas bases. Secondly, impose a prohibitive tax on offshore manufacturing. Chances of this happening until circumstances make it the only choice – next to none. Chances of the United States becoming less ‘united’ as chaos increses and areas such as California try to go it alone – bet on it!

  • Owen

    Current U.S. leadership no longer believes in the nation state. They are pushing us into a one world global system where there will not be any independent states at all. It appears in order to get Americans to go along with this plan, they must first bankrupt the country. If I read the handwriting on the wall correctly, it also appears that we will be nuked as well. In the unfolding tragedy that we are now witnessing there will be no winners. I see only death and destruction coming from these plans.

  • If i was a banker i would see the world in rose colored glasses……(I doing fine) or later on should i say “i see the the world though BLOOD RED eyes”, when the “SHTF”?…!!

  • No one cares, as long as there’s a bikini-clad model on the next beer commercial. Makes you feel great, dun’t it, America?!

  • Chuck

    This is the surest and best way to pull in all of the excess cash in the system, end the sleight of hand schemes between the Treasury and the financial sector, and begin to ALLOW THE ECONOMY TO CONTRACT as it must and as it should. All of the stated purposes for keeping rates at ground level go up in smoke as the depression deepens. There is no logical reason to artificially keep the discount rate down.
    That, at least, is how I see it.

  • Nothing is going to change until we have public funding of campaigns. Politicians spend taxpayer dollars because they ARE PAID to spend taxpayer dollars, and robbing the SSI fund gives them the cash needed to attract campaign dollars. What is it about political bribes do we not understand?

    Our problem is NOT government, and it is not R’s or D’s. It *IS* that government is owned by the special interests that want in the taxpayer’s pockets.

    CEOs want short-term profits to increase their already massive salaries, and are willing to share those profits with the politicians that made it all happen. Thus NAFTA and other laws are passed that enable outsourcing to countries with wage scales one-tenth ours. And our country crashes while China and India flourish.

    As a former CEO my company would not have survived if I had an employee or board of directors who took money on the side and gave away company assets in return. Our country can’t survive this corruption either.

    If politicians are going to be beholden to their funders, those funders should be the taxpayers. And at $5 per taxpayer per year it would be a bargain. Even at 100 times that. We MUST demand that our senators and representative pass the bill at:

    Jack Lohman …

  • a_reader

    The Republican talking heads never talk about the consequences of offshoring jobs to countries that withhold our standard of freedom and respect for the individual. At least in theory, it puts American worker pay in competition with slave labor (and to varying degrees that’s already happened). This is a simple concept that teenagers could grasp if someone made the point. Rush Limbaugh, et al, never go there and it shows them as shallow and irresponsible. We’ll need a bold national policy against this: sure, you can offshore jobs, but you must first leave our country. No more enjoying the freedom, benefit, and protections that our citizens give you while you thumb your nose at them and offshore jobs to pseudo slave-labor in China and support a brutal government that throws people in jail and tortures them for having unapproved “beliefs”. On the surface, the Democratic Party’s stealth socialism may seem like an answer, but in reality it’s a means to the same end.

  • It only makes sense that China will eclipse the U.S.’s economy….they have, what, 40 times the population? And they’re not shy about reproducing, either, unlike Americans (true americans, the ones that realize their incomes cannot support their lifestyle and children, too).

    America is too busy ‘diversifying’ (dumbing down the population to 4th world levels) to be concerned about her economic future.

  • Pitchforks, Torches, and Revolutions

    The sun has long set on the age of the American Empire. Contrary to what the sheeple think, this is NOT the greatest nation on earth. Were America to disintegrate (at this point, what other path is there?), it would be no great loss. The Republic would simply have to rebuild itself into something new, rising from the ashes of the rot it has now become.

  • Maria

    Deindustrialization kills viable economies.

    The remedy is reindustrialization.

    It took decades to deindustrialize the U.S.

    How long will it take to reindustrialize?

    With current legislation and “leaders”…

    Too long.

    Stock up folks…it is going to get rough.

  • Death Spiral

    If the politicans were serious they’d do the following:

    1. No more Lobbyists and Special Interest Groups
    2. Campaign Finance Reform (No big donations from corporations or special interest groups)
    3. TORT Reform
    4. Repeal NAFTA and similar bills
    5. Put Glass-Steagall Act back in place which would get the Wall Street casino under control.

    Until I see these measures enacted by EITHER PARTY then I consider everything they say to be nothing but a well crafted speech playing to the public’s sentiment.

  • sPEktrall

    America is finsihed

  • Ken

    Nothing surprising here since there has been a lot of reporting over the years that we are moving towards a service economy. Unfortunately, people didn’t realize that many of the services could be performed overseas. So, when the manufacturing jobs migrated to overseas, most of the americans didn’t think the migration would eventually touch them because they were high on the value chain of production (the value added services). Unfortunately, our international competitors weren’t satisfied with just the manufacturing work, but wanted to move up the value chain as well. So here we have service jobs (accounting, business processes, call centers, etc….) moving away. What we also forgot (and here’s the sad part) was that a lot of these positions were the training ground for Americans to move up the value chain (you get your first job and learn how to add value as you move up). So the ladder to success had the lower rungs systematically removed. That means the future generations cannot climb. This is what is happening to our country. The question for us is NOW WHAT DO WE DO?

  • Mr kuntz

    These things have been prophesied Get ready Get ready

  • kfdisme

    It doesnt bother me too much that we dont make everything here anymore. Manufacturing is a huge source of industrial pollution; so better China/Asia than here…I guess we will be forced to return to the land once we cannot pay for all those imports -cheap as they are, and we will be forced to grow what we need. This is after a substantial winnowing/downsizing of the population, of course. On the bright side, maybe all the illegals will go home when the current spiral completely unwinds itself…

  • TB

    You yourself used the term “post-industrial” in your post, however, after that, you only mention “deindustrialization”.
    We live in the 21st century, man. Yeah, that’s the century when information, innovation and optimization defines a country’s economic power to a much higher extent than antiquated ideas of “industry” or “population”. OK, Asia produces 84 percent of the world’s printed circuits, but they are dependent on developments in that area, and where does that take place? The same is true (with few examples) of all other branches.
    The cost of production is as close to zero as it has been at any time in history, that’s why the price of innovation has soared higher and higher. In your place (I’m not American) I’d worry more about the scientific potential of my country than about the industrial one.

    Best regards,

  • tyler durden

    maybe the US gubmint plans on using the awesome power of its nuclear arsenal/big stick to bully countries around for the next 20 yrs not to mention its haarp facility and its so called weather control powers to flood or drought other countries, cause devastating earth quakes/hurricanes/sunamis or maybe its reverse engineered some great fusion type power source at area 51 from crashed ufos. 😉
    or maybe the people/corporations/banks that are really running the gubmint dont give a shit about north america and will just use the next emerging superpower/super economy to get even more filthy rich n powerful

  • What is required is a complete repeal of the Nanny State. The most important enemy to defeat is the “green” movement. “Green” is the new “Red” (Marxists). A totally pristine environment is a luxury, one that we can no longer afford. This isn’t rocket science. Just ask yourself what would happen if every human being spent all day cleaning up the streets and parks, instead of working (e.g., delivering groceries to supermarkets). Would things be cleaner? Yes. Would everyone (except a few farmers) starve to death? Yes.

    Get it? A totally pristine environment is a luxury, and we are not living in luxurious times.

  • Tweetyboy

    There is no “George Washington” on the horizon. There is no politician willing to risk ridicule, their income and censure to repeal NAFTA. They might be run out on a rail from D.C. We are in dire straights indeed. I knew of a man that was shot and hanged over a bridge in the early 1900’s because he supported the unions at the time. It cost his life. If you believe in the bible as the word of God, read the whole chapter of Deuteronomy 28 slowly and carefully. Is it just me, or does it seem to describe our nation? If we don’t wake up and turn this ship around soon, we will be like the Titanic. Our train is about to come off the tracks. We are going over a cliff into the sea. Hello! Knock knock! Anyone home???

  • Morgan

    Shouldn’t this put a dent in our polution problems that aren’t being caused by BP?

  • anonymous56

    I think that USA will have the same economy as Nauru and Zimbabwe in the next years.
    Coffee will soon be a luxury good in USA.

    Take a look at this analysis :

    The Global systemic crisis – Spring 2011: Welcome to the United States of Austerity / Towards a very serious breakdown of the world economic and financial system

  • Michael

    The poverty rate is defined as 22K for a family of 4. That’s 2 adults making $5/hr! A family of 4 cannot live on that anywhere. Here in Nor Cal I doubt 1 person could scrape by on 22K. I’ll bet that the real povery rate is double what our lying gov’t says it is.

  • wayne pacific

    In my profession I travel and analyze different types of business concerns and I observed that this crisis is not only in manufacturing but other sectors as well. For example, a healthy large orange grove near Los Angeles was bull dozed and left as raw unproductive land. According to the orchard manager, oranges could be shipped all the way from Chile (thousands of miles) and sold in Los Angeles for less than they could grow and then ship them only 20 miles. This orchard manager went to Chile to see how this is possible. He discovered that the orchard workers were literally starving people that worked for food only – they were fed off of trucks that came by twice a day and dumped off, in bulk,the cheapest food available – corn, oats, etc. This is what they call “free trade” and “leaders” like Bush have said they are confident that Americans can compete. This is outrageous and we need protective tariffs, which was the system that built America. “Free trade” is in reality “slave trade.”

  • Robert

    One of the reasons the Obama Administration is pushing for Green technology is to open up a new front for domestic manufacturing. Care to guess who’s opposed to this policy and in favor of remaining dependent on foreign oil instead?

  • It is high time America and the rest of the western world realized that competing with Asia on price is not an option, while living standards are so high. Manufacturing carbon-friendly, quality products will at least stave off the inevitable for a while. Learning to manage with less is the best long-term strategy and that goes for all of us. The world’s resources – and that is what the large corporations have not grasped – are finite and will not support our expanding population beyond the next few years. Industrialization is the cause of climate change and that will very soon depopulate the globe. Back to basics guys, simple food, work from home and cut travel (isn’t that what the internet was supposed to do) and learn to live simpler, less materialistic, lives. Be creative, learn to play a musical instrument, instead of demanding the latest in surround sound. Read a book online and save paper… Oh! I forgot… That will destroy America’s largest export.

  • Good essay. But I disagree that Americans don’t know or don’t care about de-industialization. On the contrary, I speak with people every day who express the opinion that our economic problems & joblessness stem from our loss of manufacturing.

    The problem is that this opinion means absolutely nothing to the ruling class. Our “leaders” continue to sell-us out at a rapid pace. The average citizen has no more control of this policy than over the continuing wars or the bank bailouts.

  • American Cesarean section

    Manufacturing will come back to the USA, but the USA may not be around to see it return. The reason for the destruction of the industrial base comes down to money, both labor and raw material costs.

    Labor costs in the countries where our industries are migrating towards are a pittance compared to the US. So starve the US population of industrial job wages, even unto the point of economic collapse and at some point those labor costs will become competitive against the 3rd world when the mass of unemployed Americans beg for a job at any cost.

    The bonus points come in should there be an economic collapse of the USA which would pave the way for removing or ignoring most industrial regulations that makes re-establishing manufacturing plants expensive.

  • mbabsit

    There are lots of solutions, most involving the same persons in Washington who got us into this mess. However, we all can do something if we first resolve to Buy American. Not just from American companies, but those who manufacture in this country. Sometimes they may be hard to find or costly, but I’d rather have something that is WELL MADE, rather than something that falls apart the minute it slides out of the box. Remember, an American-made good is a job saved and a factory not closed. Those whose jobs are saved could well save yours.

  • jmndodge

    Grandpa worked in manufacturing, saved, bought a home, sent his kids to college, invested in stock and the corporations sent the jobs he used to do to foreign countries. Couldn’t happen before the unions were busted, Nixon, Regan and the GOP accomplished that, while Clinton supported NAPTA. We can feed the world, and used to, but we don’t want to work in agriculture unless we can use large machinery and turn corn to sugar, we complain vigorously about migrant workers, illegals, taking our jobs, but we will not do their work. We refuse to support American made clothes or furniture, but want their name brands. Our political leaders have failed us, because they found out what we wanted and gave it to us.

  • wolfgang

    You can speculate on what is going on …

    However, it won’t help……….

    Due to unsound policy ,,, Amerika is as
    the old Soviet Union ,,, a failed state.

    Caused by the “free lunch” and unbounded
    tolerance of sub-standards ….. in all areas.

    The politics of choice based on lies….

    Rome did not fall overnight,,, we still
    have bread and circus…

    no wonder they voted in OBOMBARAMA

  • I personally believe your right on the money!!! In 2011 things are really going to go down hill very fast, just watch and see!!! The Jesuits have accomplished just what they have set out to do, is to make the USA a third world country and destroy the middle class citizen!!!They are beginning to realize that a Revolution II is coming to a neighborhood just like theirs real soon!!!

  • Gary

    This is a result if the CEO greed and corp short term focus. Now that all we have left for a large majority of people are crap low paying service jobs. We need to unionize the crap jobs and force them to be family supporting jobs. McDonald’s and Wal-mart er at can easily afford to pay their staff a living wage. They will not do this willingly so they must be threatened with massive strikes. They will soon see the light.

    Corp will never do the right thing for society unless it is dragged kicking and screaming by government.

    Someone said Benedict Arnold CEO’s. This was very true. If you ship jobs overseas and lower our standard of living then you can follow the jobs and hope the Chinese gov will help you.

  • Paul

    Right from 2008, economy has not even improved little bit in US. Then how come Banks and corporations make profit? Back in 2008 and 2009, they laid of people and save money to show profit to the investors.

    Now, they invest like crazy in India and China( I live in India now). The top BPO companies in India are from US. They hire people like anything in India and make profit and declare the result in wall street.

    All the auto makers including Ford and GM are hiring like crazy and investing like crazy in India now. Korean companies invest like crazy in India, so these American companies has to compete with them so they have to invest in India. Indian economy is booming like anything and they grow almost 10% every year.

    Most of the IT service companies (Accenture, IBM and you name any) and manufacturing companies (Dell, HP and you name any) hire like crazy here. Health care companies start pumping money here never before.

    Both Indian based off shore and big 5 from US, keep out sourcing jobs here and IT job market is too good here. You get min 5 jobs, if you have experience. And these companies make 20% profit years on year.

    That said, FED or president Mr. Obama can not do anything. The corporations should take the responsibility. And do they care about US economy or job market? Definitely NOT. Reason is they need profit to please the wall street.

    There is a city called Chennai in India and its a Auto manufacturing hub for the world now. The development happened just with in 7 years. You name any auto company they are here. When Hyundai first came in they set all the auxiliary units here. This city has a port and government gives all the incentives. On seeing all the infrastructure and all the auxiliary units all the manufacturing companies are here now.

    I lived in US for many years and my first IT consulting job was in Detroit. I did consulting for GM. At that time Chennai was a desert and DETROIT was like a heaven. I had been in Detroit back in 2009 Feb, and that places is like a desert and look like a post war zone. Where us, 10 years back desert Chennai has become a heaven. This change happened with in 7 years. I have lived both countries and let me tell you something Auto industry will NEVER come back to US. Plain reason is even Korean and Japaneses companies has to set up their units in India to make profit, then how come US will keep the jobs in US.

  • Paul

    I am an IT guy and worked like crazy in US. I wanted to develop a product and I spent almost 16 hours daily. Most of the ERP packages from SAP or Oracle was very expensive. So I spent almost 10 years day and night and developed the product. There was no investors and I had to drop off the product development. You need domain expert from ERP and computer programming knowledge to develop the product and I had both. Its a failure for me and my 10 years hard working went in a vain.

    Where as there are kids create social networking web sites like YOU TUBE, FACE BOOK. ( I am not jealous with their success story). So what I learned is most of the people in US just want to spent time in social networking sites and buy things. And these companies are valued in billions. For what? College out kids spent time in social networking sites and they are valued in Billions of dollars. They grow like anything with in a year.

    Take my case, US companies spent millions of dollars for ERP implementation like SAP and Oracle. I was developing a product which will be the best product with less expensive price and implementation cost, but there are no takers. I may not know how to market or how to get the investors and I agree with my mistake. But the point is people live in US like spending time in social networking sites and buying things from best deal sites. Instead of creating this websites they should produce something, which can not be produced in any where in the world. Thats the fundamental issues for the economic growth in US.

    Bottom line is, most of the people live in America forgot what their founding fathers are good at ( Innovation and manufacturing) and spend their time and innovation in social networking sites, playing games, spend time in ipods. Thats the real issue now.

  • CJFYuma

    We will all need to prepare for survival in a post-industrial America – for those who wish to remain here. Ironically, this will be a good thing for most Americans. They’ll learn how to grow, and prepare their own food (healthier), barter with their neighbors, instead of charging up credit cards, manage their own banking with hard money (gold, silver, copper). Simply put, they’ll learn again the skills to manage their economic activities like their forefathers once did, instead of relying on banksters and corporations to feed, shelter, and cloth them from cradle to grave.

    The old, federal reserve notes will be used as kindling for fires to cook food, or recycled to save trees. Don’t worry people, everyone will be employed – each family member will be utilized; we’ll be too busy managing our own lives by trading the things we make & grow ourselves for those things produced by our neighbors that we need.

    Let’s welcome this new, post-industrial order, instead of fearing it, and wasting time & energy trying to salvage the old, worn-out corporate, American capitalist system that is “junking” so many unemployed Americans, and causing untold misery in this once, great nation!

    There’s no future for our children, as long as we continue to procrastinate and prolong the inevitable collapse, and restructuring of the present, perverse financial system, and the crony, imposter government that keeps it alive with our taxes and China’s loans – bankrolled by years of wasteful spending of those devaluing federal reserve notes, which, by the way, amounted, in the long-run, to buying crap with more crap.

  • First i owuld like ot know why George Bush just announced that we were being globalized, no one asked me to vote on it. Having said that, we are tossing every job market to the Chinese and borrowing money from them at the same time, we are deeply in debt to them. I owuld also like ot know why situations like the BP oil spill have turned out to be a money maker for Brazil because Obama decided ot end oil drilling here in Louisiana, in addition to that t made George Soros a richer man than he already is since he immediately invested in a Brazilian oil co. just before that. Why is no one in Congress stopping all of this, could it be that everyone is in league with tearing our country down? We have no Judicial watch who can actually stop this. What about all the mortgages from forclosures that were sold to the Chinese, this is all illegal operations yet no one has done a thing about it, not the Democrats and not the Republicans. How long do they expect to be in office if there is no office to be in?

  • alice

    No, no, no fellows, it just costs too much to produce anything here in the USA. Anything we can make, others can make better and at lower costs. In order for us to compete, income taxes have to be eliminated, close the IRS, charge an import tax, reduce all taxes across the board, reduce, eliminate consolidate all levels of government, because it’s gotten too big to maintain on a smaller economy, deficits need to be eliminated, budgets balanced. We have to run a much tighter ship, otherwise our system of government will have to change, more and more Socialist policies will be enacted, thus changing the landscape of America!

  • mike D

    I remember the talking heads touting the benefits of the ‘service economy’ since the early nineties. Sadly, the truth is that America is already lost. This situation is irrevocable. the majority of the population has been lulled into a stupor by an incessant onslaught of mind numbing ‘entertainment’; the youth for the most part have been infused with empty-headed dreams of fame and the party life. In the mean time the political issues that get people fired up are abortion and gay marriage. Insisting on saying ‘we’re number one’ when it’s obviously not true is not patriotism – just empty headed foolishness.

  • “If we don’t overthrow capitalism, we don’t have a chance of
    saving the world ecologically. I think it is possible to have
    an ecologically sound society under socialism.
    I don’t think it is possible under capitalism”
    – Judi Bari,
    principal organiser of Earth First!


    “Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the
    industrialized civilizations collapse?
    Isn’t it our responsiblity to bring that about?”
    – Maurice Strong,
    founder of the UN Environment Programme


    “A massive campaign must be launched to de-develop the
    United States. De-development means bringing our
    economic system into line with the realities of
    ecology and the world resource situation.”
    – Paul Ehrlich,
    Professor of Population Studies


    “The only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another
    United States. We can’t let other countries have the same
    number of cars, the amount of industrialization, we have in the US.
    We have to stop these Third World countries right where they are.”
    – Michael Oppenheimer,
    Environmental Defense Fund


    “Global Sustainability requires the deliberate quest of poverty,
    reduced resource consumption and set levels of mortality control.”
    – Professor Maurice King


    “We must make this an insecure and inhospitable place
    for capitalists and their projects. We must reclaim the roads and
    plowed land, halt dam construction, tear down existing dams,
    free shackled rivers and return to wilderness
    millions of acres of presently settled land.”
    – David Foreman,
    co-founder of Earth First!


    “Complex technology of any sort is an assault on
    human dignity. It would be little short of disastrous for us to
    discover a source of clean, cheap, abundant energy,
    because of what we might do with it.”
    – Amory Lovins, Rocky Mountain Institute

  • It’s exactly the same situation in the UK. The government doesn’t give a flying hoot about anyone but themselves. They feed off of taxes like pigs at a trough with exorbitant spending on themselves and in their “work”. The rest of us are to get on our bikes and pedal over to India to get a job as one particularly nasty and stupid government minister suggested only a couple of days ago.

  • carse

    We have the ability to make our educational system much better. Americans can become more efficient and outcompete the competition. If we fail we will become a lesser nation. If we fail we cannot blame the Chinese. The Chinese didn’t ruin our educational system, the Democrats did.


  • WillieG51

    These sobering facts are while interesting, just scratch the surface. There are two underlying causes to all of this, one is globalization in which some countries will build, and others will consume. The other is simple GREED. How much profit is enough, and where does on draw the line. We are no longer a republic, but a corporate oligarchy. Our “treasonous” politicians have, sold us out and continue to sell us out. They work for themselves, and their futures not YOURS.
    There are several solutions, but you’ll have to drag Congress screaming and kicking from their corporate “masters”. Good Luck. Also the term “free trade” is a misnomer, it doesn’t exist, someone is always manipulating the playing field, so we need to get out of our trade agreements and begin protecting our own. The Chinese do so, but the Austrian/Chicago school of economics, seem to favor everyone, but the US… Lots of things can be done. It’s as I said getting it done, but most importantly. . GET RID OF The Federal Reserve, it’s one of the greatest hindrances that exists. .Good Luck with that one too.

  • Rich

    You people don’t get it. Argue all you want, it will make no difference. We are being bankrupted on purpose and for a reason. You can’t change that through words.

  • John Hendricks

    An excellent article. Financially, the US could collapse any time. The problem is that the American people will not stand up for themselves. We’ve lost the sense of nation that made the country successful. We’re just a human zoo. The rot is everywhere.

    The powers that be have engineered this, and the American people have been deceived into going along with it. At this point, I don’t see how we have an alternative. The average American – even people who should know better – equates “patriotism” with blind support for present government policy. We’re headed into the wall at 200 mph and the people are cheering it on.

    I wish I could see something positive, but I don’t. It is a battle between a completely disorganized, financially stressed public against an infinitely funded, highly organized and dedicated oligarchy dedicated to the destruction of civilization as we know it.

  • jayson adams

    The article is not strictly true. The UK was the world’s first industrial nation and the world’s first post industrial nation.

    All empires fall flat eventually, get used to it America. The uk had it’s century in the 19th, America the 20th, and asia(particularly India and China) the 21st.

    I wouldnt worry, your fall wont be too bad. You will still be a great nation, but you’ll find it increasingly expensive to be a so-called super power. America will come to exhaust itself on yet more pointless wars and meet an eventual suez canal moment.

  • The quotes featured in my previous post should leave no question as to the reality of the Global Warming Agenda and the Enviro-nazis plans for us all….There can be no doubt as to the implementation of a communist/socialist world govt based on the premise of environmentalism. Population control (reduction) and tyranny on a massive scale is what they want, are we going to allow it??

  • John Hendricks

    If you would be so kind as to allow me to conclude my thought, I have tried for many years to awaken people to the direction our country was headed. All I have to show for it is grief. People don’t want to hear it, they don’t care, they don’t see what it has to do with them, and they hate you for being “negative.” If you don’t think this is wonderful, you will be ostracized from polite society. What chance does that leave us?

  • Dave

    Well, NBC, ABC and of course Katie Couric says you’re wrong! They say the economy is good and things are warm and fuzzy and will be for a long time, in fact they say we will all be able to retire, go to our doctors for all kinds of approved drugs that make us young and wonderful grandparents.

    I know the truth because Katie says, Obama says and even Oprah says! I know I’m right because I watch TV all the time and everything I learned came from TV – It’s educational when you watch Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune – Alex and Pat are like the best teachers ever!

    The truth is, all you doom and gloomers are just plan wrong! As if you know anything…

  • Seer

    > In 2040 China’s economy will be 3 times the USA’s one.

    Yeah. It also has three times as much inhabitants. So this means that in 2040, an even distribution of the economic activity between China and USA will be achieved.

    This will of course lead to an equilibrium of global prices as well.

    So things will even out for EVERYBODY, not just for some of God’s children.

    God bless America. Why not, indeed. But why resting on a selfish wish while praying?

    God bless everybody!

  • ReadyOrNot

    There is no easy fix but a fix is required immediately. Obama has done America a BIG favor. He woke us up before they got everything. His hatred of America, his greed, his determination to destroy the middle class and his inexperience caused him to try and execute “their” whole plan in the first 90 days. And because he wasn’t able to control the airwaves and people like Beck and Limbaugh, only the news media, many Americans were graphically shown what we have elected and what their plan is. I think many of us now see what is happening and our future demise. The question is what do we do and we only have 6 weeks left to do it. If we don’t take back control of one of the three branches of government, they will finish the job of making us a third world country before the next presidential election.
    We need to (1) have each person running for Congress sign a contract to vote on very specific bills and agree if they don’t they will resign or agree to impeachment. (2) Then list what has to be done. Put a moritorium on all “green” laws, adopt the Fair Tax, repeal or unfund ObamaCare, put Dept. of Ed. back into HEW and reduce it to less than 500 people. Abolish the IRS. Eliminate Dept. of Engergy and put a watchdog division under Commerce (won’t need many since we are repealing all these regulations that forced our companies overseas. (3) Then impose a huge import tax on anything coming into the country from US corporations. Make it cost as much as staying here. (It is a misnomer that Americans want cheaper rather than American made. We now pay $1200 for a washing machine made in China!!!)
    I could go on, it won’t be easy and it will create a lot of unemployment initially in Washington DC, but we have got to stop regulating everything.

    • I don’t agree with much of what Obama has done, but one thing he tried was to differentiate between taxation on Corporations that create American jobs and Corporations that move work overseas. Not rewarding the 2nd.

      Republicans killed that.

      Democrats also suggested a tax cut on the Middle Class. Republicans refused that unless the CEOs of the Bailout TBTF banks got a bigger tax cut.

      Tax cuts are good, but the GOP actually wants HIGHER taxes and higher interest and mandatory financial sector fees (privatization) on most Americans.

      At the same time, Democrats (Geithner, Bernanke, key Senators) have at times been at par with Republicans on refusing to investigate, prosecute, or prevent past or future financial fraud and general parasitism.

      Post-Industrial has a meaning: Marx wrote about Capitalism as M-C-M, Money > Commodities > Money (profit). Alternate is C > M > C. The bleeding edge of Post-Industrial economics is M > M, profits from purely-financial transactions. Instead of the WPA, where some people moved piles of dirt back and forth for dirt wages (and some built huge dams and roads), now we allow Federally-financed parasites move notional numbers back and forth on spreadsheets and between counter-parties for Billionaire wages.

      Prof of Corp Law Lynn Stout explained why the term “Casino Capitalism” really is applicable. Derivatives are essentially “bets” “wagers” “gambling”. This has always existed. Aristotle’s writings mentioned derivatives on Olive Oil. It’s another matter when “bets” are given the legal status of “contracts”, when speculators who are not buyers overwhelm markets in tangible commodities and securities and land/homes, when inflating asset prices is considered the KEY to a vibrant economy.

      This does not come down to one President. Obama is merely the mop-up guy for decades of Reaganomics, but he’s NOT stopping or changing Reaganomics even as the original founders of Reaganomics denounce a 1980s set of economic tweaks as inappropriate for this decade.

      And Reaganomics did not begin with Reagan. The philosophical vision of Neo-Classical economics as a response to radical grassroots Socialism in the USA and Europe — the drive to end special economic PRIVILEGE — goes back over a century, but it morphed into a more and more vigorous virus. State-Capitalism worked for the USA after World War One and Two with crises halted by vast government spending on Defense ($12 Trillion of Military Communism and Road Communism and Financial Communism to defeat the “evil” empire of Soviet Communism). We were HAPPY with a Permanent War economy … many of us were. It was part and parcel of the American ethic.

      Now they spend as much on fighting a global “counter-insurgency” (i.e. “people”) (real and imaginary) as they did fighting one of the most highly mechanized and industrialized armies in the world, Nazi Germany (which had the benefit of a lot US Corp industry, technology, and cash advances). But WW2 did create industrial jobs. How many jobs are created for fighting some phantom force of 50 guys in Afghanistan, or even by creating new enemies that can be murdered by remote control drones?

      As for the DEFICIT PHOBIA, you need to check out Warren Mosler, Randall Wray, Stephanie Kelton, Michael Hudson, etc. They aren’t for “socialism” they are for fixing the financial aspects of Capitalism so the REAL economy can work.

      A history of MMT.

  • Brace for further corruption and deprivation. Stock up. Grow at least some of your own food. Leave the system.

  • Jeff

    I’ve known this for years and have been telling people for years that this is by design. Of course people just give you that blank look have no idea what I was talking about and would rather talk about Sunday’s NFL game. People are idiots these days and I don’t even bother to talk about anything with anyone in regards to this country’s decline. The oligarchs that finance and own both past and current administrations as well as the mainstream media outlets have an agenda to slowly dismantle America from the superpower it once was to a bankrupt nation full of immoral jobless idiots that can’t go without their sunday football. The earlier guy had it right…people have pursued “careers” using their mouths rather than their hands. We don’t produce anything anymore, and everyone wants to be a lawyer or a doctor or a $100K a year pharmaceutical sales rep. or a $100K a year insurance rep. or financial adviser. Colleges these days produce 14 lawyers to every 1 engineer. Everyone wants a law degree so they can pretend they are in the upper class and pretend like they are one of the people they see on Boston Legal on TV. Most of them anymore just come out of law school with debt and no job. These are all non-producing jobs and will not exist if our country is not producing anything that the world wants because manufacturing is the backbone of our country.

    But let’s not forget unions either. I like unions and they’ve done a lot for the worker in this country’s past, but these days I’ve seen union workers making $40/hr to do a job that a 1st grader can do and then they bitch and complain about wanting more $. They get gold plated healthcare and pensions after they retire from their job turning a screwdriver. This drives manufacturing jobs out of the country as well because business just cannot support outrageous union wages.

    Where is the money coming from anymore? The whole thing is just unwinding and takes years to fully unwind. Once the dollar is finally dropped as a world reserve currency, America will look just like one of the WTC buildings on 9/11. It will all the sudden within a blink of a eye come crashing down.

  • Gary B.

    How about this? If industry wants to ship manufacturing over seas, courtesy of NAFTA, et al, wish them well. Then, when the product comes into this country, raise the tarrif high enough to equal the lost wage difference between the originating country and the US. At least we can pay to support those whose jobs have gone overseas. Hmmmmmm. Maybe we could send the politicians instead of a tariff.

  • SilverMoon

    Great article with detailed research. I think #19 is the most upsetting to happen of all places in the world.

    There is no real prospects down the line for the nxt 10+ yrs. for industry in America. No real future for our children except to work at fast food & motels that caters to foreign tourists.

    It’s time to take a stand. I recommend that everyone just read a new book out that’s powerful cause it’s about a small town in America that does stand up to federal tyranny!

    It’s a must read for today’s times cause it could be our home town & freedoms that we’ll be defending soon. I recommend it

  • Thuggler

    American cellphone specifications are crap largely because US carriers refused to subsidise handsets. In Europe, cellphones are made here and they are cutting edge thanks to investment oriented carriers.

  • DMiddle

    Do take note of all foreign cars people buy and send profits to overseas companies.
    The “big 3” have excellant cars, but a stigma has been built against them swayed by Consumers Reports started in the 80’s.
    I could not even get a fellow union employee to test drive a new Malibu before he purchased a Toyota…

    Machinist @ a Toledo glass manufacture-

  • I read the article and it is quite sobering. the problem lays not in the greed of the wall street human waste nore in the morally defunct people we call leaders. the problem squarely lays upon your shoulders, the American people. you must field a candidate or locally, candidates that will give back the freedoms that memorial day is all about. most of you suck up beer and eat your hot dogs on that day and are ignorant of what it really means to be Americans. these people have no power you do not allow them. locally field people who will tell the state to keeps its nose out of local politics and laws,field people who will tell the feds that they can stay out of our personal state business. and maybe we can eventually put people in office who even though greed for power and wealth drives them will realize they work for us. but I do not believe this will happen because most of you are too lazey and self serving to do whats needed to acomplish the task. prove me wrong. I think most of you care more for your comfort than the constitution or bill of wrights.

  • rrv

    Let me expalin the advantages of deindustrialization to everyone.

    Withg no jobs and a poor excuse for an edication system our kids will be mych better off working as mercenaries and sex workers for those countries that own our mortgages, government bonds, politicians and compnay stocks.

    There will always be a need for wars and whores and that kind of job security is well worth it.

    Who really wants a regular job anyway?

  • rrv

    Let me expalin the advantages of deindustrialization to everyone.

    With no jobs and a poor excuse for an education system our kids will be much better off working as mercenaries and sex workers for those countries that own our mortgages, government bonds, politicians and compnay stocks.

    There will always be a need for wars and whores and that kind of job security is well worth it.

    Who really wants a regular job anyway?

  • Bill

    This has been going on for well over fifteen years. Fifteen years is a lot of time to follow the money trail out of the U.S. and invest in those same emerging economies that the jobs are going to.

    Everyone should be an astronaut so they can look down on earth. They would realize there are no borders. We are individuals first and inhabitants of a beautiful large world full of opportunities.

    A lot of people now are frustrated because they are out of work. Or someone they know is out of work. I know, my post here is hindsight.

    But the real issue is most people cannot stand the fact that other countries have freed up their economies and they want what Americans have had for decades. Ironically the same Americans who dislike other countries becoming wealthy want to use the government power to control our own economy and put a gun to the head of businesses trying to flee the overregulated, overtaxed, overunionized environment.

  • Something Wicked This Way Comes

    Kudos to Chuck and Colonel Girdle- they get it.

    We have a lot of problems. Triaging what comes first is difficult. For me it’s the FED. In my mind the the worst piece of legislation ever signed- was the bill bringing the FED into existence in 1913. In fact, the President that signed it into existence later revealed that he considered it the greatest mistake he ever made.
    Wow, thats a powerful statement.

    The FED is truly morphed into the 4th arm of government. In fact, it may have more power than any of the other existing branches. It has financed every war, it buys debt that can’t be paid back, it creates money out of thin air, it inflates and steals from you.

    It has no constitutional mandate- quite honestly- it is the greatest enemy of our state.

    It has indebted and enslaved us for the foreseeable future- and it is a private bank. We’ll be making payments to JPN, CHN, and the FED for ever. Welcome fellow sharecroppers.

    Who owns the FED? Can’t answer can you? Who audits the FED? Nobody. And yet this unelected, undefined abomination runs our world, does whatever government tells us to do.

    You want your government back? Get rid of the FED now. Without a FED, the government can’t finance wars, it cannot bailout bankers, auto manufacturers, and print money out of thin air.
    The FED is the governments mercenary, it’s hit man. The FED is legalized unaudited thievery- no better than the mob in suits. Really.

  • TSGordon

    In the wake of a sudden and severe deflation of our buying power, Gold/Silver will be deflated as well, as the primary ‘currency’ shifts to nutritionally sound food. (read: non-GMO!)

    Only then will the average American accept that this is a carbon-copy of the Rothschild’s playbook. Therefore, it’s time for stockpiling supplies in anticipation of les BREAD RIOTS, v.2.0. Another approach would be to get really handy at aviation & marine skills, as the ultra-rich will quickly recognize and greatly value those with like minded ‘pirate’ skills.

    *Software/hardware engineering specialists need apply!!

  • TheLoneWatchman

    This is no accident. The de-industrialization of the US was intentional & was an inside job perpetrated by domestic backstabbers (AKA Wall Street banksters) & the Free Trade trojan horse stable (AKA out-sourcing, off-shoring, H1B recruitment, illegal immigration, & derivatives-based financial “services” hedge funds).
    The steps to recovery:
    1. Reinstate Glass-Stegall;
    2. Reinstate Bretton Woods fixed currency exchange rates;
    3. Freeze all home foreclosures for 5 years;
    4. Reinstate the Hill-Burton health care system;
    5. Begin construction of NAWAPA, the North American Water & power Alliance, the TVA for the 21st century.

  • Ju Ju Eyeball

    Just impose a duty on everything an American based company has manufactured over seas and imports back into the United States so that it cost more to have that item built overseas. Problem solved.


    Pass a law that says that all goods manufactured overseas by an American company to be shipped back here for sale, that company must pay the workers the same as they would have to them here, not ten cents an hour…

  • RC

    The key to fixing this situation, is for the US to recognize that a strong manufacturing base is part of a strong National Security foundation. Looking back to ’41 will show you that the country that can ramp up the fastest can gain strategic advantage by just out producing the opponent. Buy American… build demand for domestic products.

  • Gustaf

    Sadly all this deindustrialization has lead directly to a plastic, low quality, junk society. All to just make a few men fiscally wealthy. Maybe if America re-embraced HEMP, and became the world leader in HEMP technology, and the numerous applications (food,fuel,material) of it. Release the thousands of non-violent ‘criminals’ that were locked away because of it, putting them to work into its production and development. The USA could once again become know as a country that produces ‘QUALITY’ products, and not just plastic throw away JUNK that we are literally about to drown in. In effect the USA would also become the world leader, in efficient, clean, ‘Green’ technology, and production.
    The last two times America resorted to HEMP, was during the last two world-wars. I think maybe this time, the citizens should turn to it, to support the war against greed, and the corporate suck that is feeding us all the contaminated, adulterated, unnatural, chemical, death.
    What would happen if, We Just Did IT? Started acting like we were free, and doing the things we believe are ‘RIGHT’. Heck if it happened it large enough numbers, what could they do?

  • Dell

    Dell was never really a manufacturer to begin with.. just final assembly and marketing.

  • Samantha

    I was one of thousands that marched in the “Battle of Seattle” in 1999. This was a massive effort by Americans to stop Bill Clinton, Al Gore and their criminal congressional allies from selling our country out with their free trade agreements. Our work to stop these traitors failed.
    Today I’m taking a direct action to save our country. I’m ordering a daypack made in Schenectady, New York, by

    From now on, every time I need to buy something, I’ll first try to find that item Made in USA. We citizens have to save ourselves.

  • Tom

    As shown by the comments left as a response to this post some people are close to understanding “why” we are deindustrializing. Some people actually understand that industrial capital flows to the land of the lowest “cost of production”. Period. Some have commented, and rightly so, American labor can not compete witih Chinese slave labor. So true. However there is another cause for increased cost of production in the US (and other industrialized nations). That is that in america and other nations, REAL ESTATE has become the industry of choice. Americans are too close to the problem to actually SEE IT. They are part of the problem.

    For the last 40 years that I can remember (and I am in my mid 50’s) the only way anyone that I know has made any money is in real estate. Americans want that housing appreciation. As someone that is still in what is left in the manufacturing sector (hanging by a thread) I see the results of this all the time. When I need to hire someone I can’t pay them below what it takes for them to find a place to live. It makes the goods and services that I produce more expensive.

    If you want to start the reindustrialization of america then start with eliminating the home owners tax credit. Then move to eliminate the Federal Reserve (where is it written in stone that any nation needs a central bank?). Then revise NAFTA.

    By the way, I am sorry to tell you “green energy” folks that you are living in a dream land. I’m an electronics engineer and have been for 30 years. Many people have good intentions but are not trained to use logic very well. Too many reasons to mention here but that is not going to save us.

    • I believe there’s a reasonable assumption that if all the Govt subsidies and protections for Coal, Oil, Gas, (and even Nuclear) were shifted to other advanced tech (or simply eliminated), Green would be a no-brainer.

      It’s like how we complain about industrial farming pollution and weight gain, but we subsidize corn, corn syrup, high fructose corn syrup, ethanol, and various other corn products.

      If anyone is responsible for “Communism” in the USA, it’s Capitalists. People have called it “inverted Leninism” to differentiate between varying forms of State-Capitalism, and the human-molding ideals of Fascism. We ARE molded and shaped in America … but instead of by Govt propaganda per se — not excluding that — it’s more Corporate propaganda.

      The Father of Modern Propaganda was Edward Bernays, nephew of Freud. His first customer was the Woodrow Wilson admin, turning from “peace” to “war”, the Creel Commission (think Fox News). His other big govt customer was Goebbels and Nazi Germany. But his main customer was the drive to turn Americans from active “citizens” to passive “consumers” — forget about being “workers” — to provide a stable base for the rising Corporate America, for fashion, for planned obsolescence, for buying crap we don’t need in order to throw it away.

      Bernays could sell anything emotionally, from a military actions against the “communist threat” in Guatemala, to cigarettes for women, to must-have conveniences for housewives, to sexy automobiles, to cigarette smoking being “chic” for women.

      Since then it’s been further extended to sell “capitalism” itself and to sell “elections” and “candidates”, all through more emotional symbols rather than the old informational style of stated “features” and “benefits”.

      This did produce a thriving American economy, high profits, but also a lot of and frenzied consumers, but also a lot of waste and mindlessness, and a need for vast military spending, more Empire.

  • Prent

    Time to take a hard look at what we have to produce. Not much.

    What is the new widget that requires us to manufacture it? There ain’t one.

    What new fad, gadget or technology is ready to go that we can keep here and make, to sell to other countries? None.

    The talk is way late in getting this turned around. It won’t, because there is no item that the world will want, and there is no corporation that will pay Americans what they think they deserve versus a third-world employee who asks barely anything for his time.

    Whether I like it, or you like it, or we all go hungry and part crazy in the process, our clock has ticked to the last moments and all we have is the memory of the way it was…

  • Ken Dobberpuhl

    Excellent article. I thought maybe sending a copy of this to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave and Capitol Hill would be a good start.

  • Jim Carter

    “Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?” – Maurice Strong, 1992,founder of the UN Environment Programme

  • Craig

    Three reason for this economic situation:
    1. GREED
    2. APATHY

  • Nicholas

    If Ron Paul was elected president, he would probably do great things for our economy. He seems to have a great understand of our current economic climate though “Austrian Economics”.

  • Henry

    One can sum up in one word the direction obama and our elected officials are quickly taking America. That word is simply… MARXISM. It is happening so quickly and quietly that very few are awake enough to see and accept this reality. Many in The Ignorant Class (which has nothing to do with income or race) refuse to wake up to the reality. They would prefer to say America is exempt from reality. It is not.

  • Jawman

    Do you think this is all by accident? As the great communist FDR stated, “nothing happens by accident if it happens you damn well bet is was PLANNED”. We are moving into a global union, one world govt, if you please. So enjoy sheep the next few years will be fun.

  • Bill

    I’m a Pell Granted Associate’s in Fine Arts Student these days because the only way to acheive the American Dream is to draw and later paint it it on paper.

    **** doing taxable things.

    Oh, and I laugh at those seeking careers in the healthcare industry thinkin’ they’ll have job security.

    Law Enforcement, yes, until the King can no longer afford to pay his men.

    Healthcare industry? nope, it’s a goner like manufacturing and real estate.

  • musings

    There are those who say that the price of gold never fluctuates – what does happen is that the currency becomes less valuable and more inflated.

    How does a post-industrial culture pay for manufactured goods? It must be that those laid off workers somehow serve the credit system – as people often, once laid off, pay for ordinary expenses with their credit cards, maxing them out and defaulting (while feeling just awful and guilty about entering the debtor class, after having paid their own way for years). And then the banks with the “toxic” accounts are bailed out with funny money.

    This has been the picture of our economy. Don’t forget that some the post-WWII primacy of American manufacture had to do with Europe and Japan having been reduced to rubble. Of course we could extend credit to them and get them to buy our goods! But now the shoe is on the other foot. We must buy from China, because it is the only game in town – new and bustling. Not because of its inherent virtue and superiority. Only because of our bankers’ and planners’ choices. Of course our pollution has gone down – and theirs has gone up. That shoe is also on the other foot.

    The question is, what new course must our nation take to keep it from being a beggar in the world? What do we have going for us?

  • Ronin

    This was all planned decades ago and spelled out in detail in a little document called Agenda 21. Google it. Council of Foreign Relations/Bilderberg types and their pointy-headed pals in Academia have bragged openly for years how Americans were too wealthly, that their standard of living was too high, that were going to take us down a few notches. Well they want to utterly destroy the American Middle-class because we are the only ones who can oppose the Globalist Banksters’s One World Government Dictatorship.

  • Big Nana

    The most naive comment came from “Automation Bob.” He indicated that Americans must simply “move” to find the jobs. Are you kidding me? As an owner of several mid-sized businesses, this makes me laugh. For every one job that we post, whether it be in sales, HR, engineering, etc., we receive upwards of 100 resumes within two days. For engineering spots 1 post typically brings in 400+ responses. Where are they coming from? Well the bulk are coming from out of state. As such, the only way to limit this flood of resumes is to draw a circle around our city or our state – to limit the applicant pool. There is absolutely no shortage of talented applicants with experience and what “Bob” calls advanced education. In fact, many VERY experienced applicants are now applying for entry level positions, especially engineers – they are a dime a dozen now. I rarely see an applicant that is applying with a non-relevant degree. This is just not the case out there. Many are calling us up or trying to network with our staff on blogs or sites such as LinkedIn. Yes, networking has become the mantra, and everyone and there brother does it now. So, “Bob” many, many Americans are more than willing to move for a job, but there are no jobs to be had. Wake up and smell the coffee, we don’t need more educated applicants.

  • roger

    We need to know who were responsible for the massive outsourcing of manufacturing jobs overseas. Who are their “puppets” in Congress that pushed through with this huge transfer? Main issue is was the deindustrialization of this great nation planned? Who are the powers-that-be that are behind this?

  • Publius

    Missing from the discussion is mere morality. Is the only worth of a human labor for profit? Once that labor value is off-shored is the value of that human now zero because no other work is to be found? This is mental illness. We must value human beings not merely as labor factors but as human beings worthy of respect. I note that no money is avaialable for small business creation, for education, for warfare and political subsidy there is plenty. Who is to blame? The process, or you and me. Can it be changed? No. This has gone on too long. The globalist has won, the Raj is on upon us.

  • Cogito Man

    The only sensible answer in this forum comes from Jack E Lohman. It hits the nail in the proverbial head.This is all one needs to understand, all other things are consequence of the above.Anything one attempts to do will fail as long as government is owned by special interests.

  • Tom

    The red state tea baggers drive jobs away. They demand employers to pay healthcare and we lose jobs. They wont pay taxes to fund healthcare but instead push it off to a for profit system that has failed.

    They use religion to divide us and try to let goverment control us with their religous beliefs. At this point I’d rather buy a car built in Japan over one from a red state.

    Sad. A divided country just like the rich and religous right want. They divide us and conquer.

  • MontgomeryScott

    Good article.
    One fact regarding reason #11 (less than 12 million mfg. jobs, lowest since 1941):
    If one factors the number of jobs vs. the population at these two dates, one will find 8.9% in mfg. in 1941, vs. 3.8% in 2010 (133,402,000 vs. 309,162,000, 12 million divided by).
    ALSO, is this using the hedonically adjusted number (I.E. McDonalds’ workers are in ‘manufacturing’, as they assemble hamburgers)?
    YUP, it is a freefall…

  • KS

    I knew back in the 70s when all the steel mills started closing down that we were heading in the wrong direction. This has been going on for a long long time.

  • ….er…..But there are reports that the de-industrialization of the USA, was planned by Rockefeller around 1968!!!

  • suck on it, jerks

    xero sympathy for americans. wake me when you stop killing 100% innocent brown people allk over the world. until then, you’re the bad guys, and your misery is joy to world. suffer, jerks.

  • joef

    How about a 28th amendment to the Constitution allowing the citizens of each state to recall their Senators and Representatives ?

  • Sammyone

    The economy of the United States is the world’s largest national economy. Its nominal GDP was estimated to be $14.3 trillion in 2009, approximately a quarter of nominal global GDP. Its GDP at purchasing power parity was also the largest in the world, approximately a fifth of global GDP at purchasing power parity. The U.S. economy also maintains a very high level of output per capita. In 2009, it was estimated to have a per capita GDP (PPP) of $46,381, the 6th highest in the world.

    The US has been the world’s largest national economy since 1870 and remains the world’s largest manufacturer, representing 19% of the world’s manufacturing output.

    The US manufactures much of the world’s commercial aircraft, hydroelectric turbine engines, pharmeceuticals and much of the world’s other high-end manufactured goods.

  • Steve from Ohio

    John Boehner keeps asking Obama where the jobs are.

    Mr. Boehner should know. He voted for NAFTA, GATT and any other job killing bill that was put forth by the criminal congress.

    Until we take control of our money by killing the FED, we will always have the problems we have.

  • tyler

    The republicans opened a website for Americans to discuss the issues most important to them and it produced the pledge they just came out with. The number two issue brought up by the people was creating manufacturing jobs and stop shipping jobs over seas. Unfortuanetly like the good globalists they are they never adressed this issue in their pledge and I saw a republican get asked about it and he changed the subject. Both parties helped to ship jobs over seas but now the democrats are at least bringing the issue up. The republicans get a lot of money from companies that ship over seas and nothing will change if they are in power.

  • leo

    Unions have killed America for an illusion of hefty pensions they will never get anyway. Corporations have legal obligation to follow laws. However, when a guy who does mindless job makes $100K a year, and a guy who has PhD in Engineering makes $80K a year, then Houston we have a problem.
    Do not underestimate the role and influence of Unions in America. They are the uberclass that trumps all of us, and they are the destroyers who make corporations look for greener pastures in Asia.
    The problem is that every empire in history could not fathom that people elsewhere will catch up. People are born equal at least when it comes to their potential. So if we have to work harder for less in order to stay competitive, is that humiliating? Or is it a necessary step to regain former leadership again?
    Unions won’t have any of it. The sense of entitlement at the expense of vast majority of Americans is just sickening.
    No, greed of corporations and evil bankers has nothing to do with all this.
    Just look for Teamsters shirts next time you look who’s making US policies.

  • Joe7000

    It appears that the majority of responses are negative therefore three choices come to mind: 1) Revolution. 2) Civil war. 3) WW-III.

    Since the USA is now the Dis-United States of America, options 1 & 2 are not viable. This leaves option 3; WW-III.

    The questions then is WHEN?

    This year?
    Next year?

    Can we reasonably prepare for WW-III?

    Can we reasonably prepare for a deadly auto accident?

    Enjoy life today ~ tomorrow there may not be a today….

  • GoneWithTheWInd

    Gary: Ironically it is the unions that have caused the problem. We all pay more for products and services because unions have a stranglehold on us. If McDonalds is unionized and everyone gets paid more then the food will cost more and customers will buy less. This will result in closing of McDonalds stores where the sales are insufficient to support the much higher jobs and higher costs. This will result in lower sales and even more closings, etc. etc.

    I live in a state with a much higher minimum wage. This has forced two national fast food chains out of the state. Higher wages push jobs offshore.

    Unions are protectionist societies that protect their own members at the expense of everyone else. We all pay higher taxes because EVERYTHING the government builds cost 30% more because of the laws requiring union wages. Taxes are the single biggest expense of the middle class and in some cases the total taxes paid exceed the total non-tax living expenses. The double whammy of our government colluding with unions against their citizens and unions colluding with government to raise taxes is killing us. If the union thugs come to take what little we have left they may get more then they bargained for.

  • Sammyone

    The US has five percent of the people and twenty to twenty five percent of GDP, manufacturing output and wealth.

    Why are we so afraid? Let’s eliminate teachers’ unions so kids can get a real education, allow assets like houses to fall in price until their real value is established and unseat every cock-eyed r or d that gets in the way.

    We are the greatest nation on earth because we see our own self interests to align with those of all other peace-loving nations; and because our form of government assures that the voice of the people is heard; and because the American people have a history of always rising above adversity to greatness.

    Valley Forge.
    Pearl Harbor.


  • Russell

    One problem is that banks are withholding credit, which makes it very difficult for companies to hire. Check out the video, “The Secret of OZ”, probably on YouTube. It goes into solutions, such as having the individual states start banks such as the Bank of North Dakota. That solves the credit problem and we can get the economy going again. A good book on the subject is “Web of Debt” by Ellen Brown.

    Tariffs are also indispensable. The founding fathers insisted upon them in order to protect American workers from being driven down to the slave-wages level of European workers at the time. Tell your congressman and senators that if they do not support tariffs and an end to NAFTA, you will not support them.

  • hank

    First of all Congress should have it’s bloated salaries and benefit packages cut back by 20%…until they turn this economy around with meaningful and effective legislation designed to keep our jobs here where they started and where they belong. Every CEO bonus given out for outsourcing American jobs should be seized and the unpatriotic SOB thrown in jail or put in a zoo for public display as a slime creature.

  • Josh, Gasland, USA

    Let’s make stuff that lasts 100 years instead of planned junk like cars that barely last 10 years.

    That’s the only way out of this mess.

  • craig

    Producing manufactured goods in a non-polluting and efficient manner is cutting edge technology, which is developing new industries and producing high employment in the countries that still produce manufactured goods. The trend of thought that the U.S. should develop the science and other countires produce the goods has never been realistic. New technologies and products develop in areas where the science and the means of production are in close proximity and communication with each other. Vibrant economies produce everything from clothes pins to computers.

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  • mubtuc

    Hire 50,000 more diverse people at the patent office. Get the 6 million pending applications processed. More inventions. More jobs.

  • plumbob

    Throughout history, the only long lasting economic system that has proven itself beneficial to the working man has been one based on agriculture. Industrialization of the country was never a good idea and the only people to ever benefited from it were land speculators and money lenders.

  • Steve Jobs

    We have to get rid of affirmative action. I work for an auto supplier and we’re mandated by the Big 3 to have so many minorities or lose contracts. The Big 3 are mandated by the Feds to enforce this policy. Most of these people are dead weight and destroy the moral of the entire company. I sometimes don’t blame companies for moving overseas.

  • Watcher1

    Hi folks,

    No solution in sight. The possibilities are great but only people that don’t play the divisive BS of Demo and Repub are eligible to think it through.

    1. All corporate structures operating in the physical boundaries of the 50 geographic states are given one year to dismantle back into companies where investors are directly responsible for their share of support. Any corpse that is overseas cannot operate in the 50 geographical states, period. No workaround allowed. No more corporations (including the United States Corporation that has supported this mess.). D.C. rights diminished, including article 1 and 2 courts. Article 3 courts re-established in all 50 geographical states (not regions). No territorial rights of the D.C. crowd within any geographical state border. The nature of contracts made clear to all students in grammer and high school.

    This also means the death of NAFTA style agreements. They would be made null and void. No tax (presently unlawful through manipulative wordart and corruption of courts) on labor, ever, ever, ever.

    Please remember – what we call government here is just a corporate activity (including departments and alphabet agencies). Government can never be the answer to revitalizing this land, impossible. They are intentionally criminal minded or ignorant and unethical at best. They can never serve the interest of even one single natural man and/or woman in America. So little government is needed that it is pathetic what has been permitted here. If the S__t agencies were disbanded today, just plain get out of the way, then you could see a free society that would rebuild itself. But most folks just can’t get to seeing this. So . . .

  • Kevin S

    Sock puppet on the Left, sock puppet on the Right, what do we expect when the ruling class and politicians we are presented with see the world as a giant market and nothing more? They see us as numbers on an actuarial chart: consumers, labor units, a cost-benefit equation to be plugged into an investment portfolio for the upper one-half of one percent. Any type of movement to see ourselves as Citizens and this land as a country with borders and regulations which benefit the human beings who live within in them is met with cries of “protectionism” and “nationalism” from the talking heads. Slap some tariffs on imported goods to offset the cheap wages and lack of environmental regulations abroad? That would hurt the investors bottom line and can only be discussed in the media as reactionary.

  • Jose Lopez

    As a Mexican national living in the US I would like to thank the American Congress for promoting the destruction of the US and stupid white voters for allowing it to happen.
    Where will I go in a few years for a job – there will be no social security

  • Lisa

    The numbers in these articles are hard to comprehend but the pain is real. My husband worked for Dell until January when his and several hundred of his coworkers’ jobs were shipped to China. Good luck trying to get support for your Dell computer in the future! The quality is not what it used to be and I can imagine that it will get worse.

    My husband is now blessed to be working with a tiny startup computer company, whose owners take great pride in designing, building and providing lifetime support for their products here in the USA. We have redoubled our efforts to buy American products as a result of what happened to us.

  • All these cited “facts” are just facts. When “Americans” is used in generalizations there is no finger to point to who, what or how…Even if these facts are all true, they still do not express the spirit of Americans. Each individual fights their battle everyday, with little or no help from anyone…or recognition. We have been boycotting for years to buy American. Our government is Fascist…And we can only change things by changing that…We want to live in peace…BUT and that’s a big BUTT, Americans need to start kicking some ass. Did you know that only one person was ever hanged, for anything done during the Civil War. That was the Warden of Andersonville, who shot and murdered my GGGGrandfather Philander P. Warriner, while being held POW. I think that thwe Americans of today need to start paying attention to who, what and why. Yesterday I learned that the FBI in trying to profile Serial Murderers, found that CEOs share the exact same traits. POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!

  • Hey, relax guys the recession is over.

    You know, every country is being told that all it has to do is lower its currency value compared to other countries and it will export its way to prosperity. Hey, every country can’t do that! The supposed solution shows the bankruptcy of the whole mess. The only solution is tariff barriers. Make it yourself in your own country. America has the resources and manpower to do it. Sure we are talking trade wars, but out of the mess will come a country ready to rock and roll.

  • If the United States is going to continue as a great nation then we are going to have to get out of NAFTA and go back to a Tariff to protect the home industries from foreign low cost labor for those manufactured goods and services that we are buying.

    But, that only part of the problem, we are also going to have to impeach this President, cancel those bail out to those big banks and to those Wall Street thugs that have gotten over 26 trillions of dollars of tax payers money. A Glass Segal re-enactment Act to separate real dept from those gambling dept that that Wall Street and those big banks generated or those derivatives which do not conform to a Glass Segal standard will be wiped off the books as unplayable or worthless paper dept or gambling dept that will not be paid by the US Government.

    This will stop the hemorrhage of the US Economy, but it won’t repair the damage that has already been done to the US Economy. We need the US Government to implement a four rivers project like what FDR did, but on a much larger scale to rebuild the US Economy. Those four target rivers were the Columbia, Colorado, St. Lowrance and the Tennessee River project. The current project that is being billed as the TVA or the Tennessee Valley Authority of the 21st Century it NAWAPA or the North American Water And Power Agreement. Basically what is does is bring 10% to 15% of the Yukon and Mackenzie River down the Rocky Mountain trench to water the Western have of Canada and the United States which is mostly desert lands and such. This artificial river will have two to three times the average flow of the Mississippi River. To accomplish a project this big we will need hundreds of nuclear power plants and rebuild the rail roads of the United States to do it and maybe even have to national project of building an entire levitated rail system throughout the whole United States.

    It not good enough to say that we been screwed, because that doesn’t help us, but we need real plan for getting out of this mess. For more information about NAWAPA and why it is the only legitimate plan for undoing this mess we are in. Go to this Web site for more information.

    Larry Moore

  • rachel

    The problem sure does glare one in the face here. Millions of fat stupid cry babies begging for a master to serve. Do slaves have a right to a master? Forget a job, I want my own business. Baker, butcher whatever. People today sacrifice their dignity for a weekly paycheck because they dont want to think to hard. I have no sympathy here. Their combined ignorance is a greater enemy than any other America has ever faced. This is a purge to get rid of the greasy meat bags choking up the place.

  • mondobeyondo

    Three key phrases every American should learn, to enhance their future job prospects:

    1) “Welcome to…. (Walmart, Home Depot, Kmart, Kroger, Winn Dixie, etc)”

    2) “Any ice or stamps today?”

    3) “Would you like fries with that?”

  • rachel

    Why cant they just send Walmart overseas, with its army of sell outs and we can have a small town America again?

  • Rosie

    A country without a strong manufacturing base will fall like a house of cards. While this article mentions dates no later than 2001, it was in the 1980’s when we, as a family, knew things weren’t looking good. The tool and die industry was hemorrhaging first to Portugal, then to China. I sorry to inform one poster that this trade took fourteen years to learn; it wasn’t a quick learn by any means. They also weren’t making “crap.” While it is politically correct to bash plastic, it was plastic that drove the engine of affordable goods to the consumer. It also helped the health industry, and of course the patient, to use disposables rather than autoclave everything, but I digress.

    One need not worry about the tool an die industry making a comeback. CNC machines have replaced the high skill tool and die maker with a lesser skilled machinist. They may have the lesser skill than the tool and die maker, but they are still skilled. One person knowledgeable in programming, usually a college grad, programs the machines.

    The machines make a better product quicker, but at great cost. The era of the small shop owner is over. It was the small shop owner who employed most of America and the tool shop was no different. Who makes the steel for the “tool?” (tool: mold to make plastic part such as the keyboard that is before you.) It isn’t Bethlehem Steel that currently has two casinos in its place instead. Who makes the computer parts for the CNC machine? It isn’t here in the US.

    If the tool and die industry had remained in the US, and we did not have our industries/small businesses gutted by the “greater profit” overseas and the punitive government rules, laws, and costs, it probably would have made it. We have lost much more than manufacturing jobs. It was those jobs that made our country strong and independent.

  • If as happened a tiny ethnic minority with nazi principles gains control of government as they have,goodbye Amerika.No not talking about Germans.

  • Barry Lynn

    Politic: poli = “many” tic is “a blood sucker”
    Stop getting a license to get married, drive, play, fish, hunt, traffic tickets and work these are all a form of taxes.
    Your tax dollars are used to feed the beast that is consuming you and everyone else.
    If we all STOPPED VOTING and all STOPPED PAYING TAXES it would be over by May of next year.
    Love, Pease and Liberty to all people every where.

  • Haig Adomian

    Wayne (above) is right. Tariffs are the answer. Huge ones. Along with other common sense pro-industrial policies – e.g. government-guaranteed bank loans to industrial borrowers on the same terms as “refugees” now get them from the INS when they show up here, or at least on the same terms as non-whites, women and “transgendered” now get them from the SBA. Plus cancelling the income tax and nationalizing the Fed and confiscating the estates of its owners.

  • Sammyone

    It is a symptom of hysteria and the collapse of reason that so many seem to find solace scab-picking over the current economic difficulty.

    Can any amount of evidence or appeal to self-interest quell this shrieking parade of half-wits finding solace in mutual misery?

    It’s bad, oh, it’s very bad! Yes, it is, it is very very bad!

    Message received, get on with it. If a planet-killing meteor was revealed to be nearing earth impact could the squealing be any louder?

    There is such a thing as calm in the face of adversity and self-fulfilling prophecy.

    Perhaps this will demonstrate my point. Slap! Now the other cheek. Slap! Again for good measure. Slap! Slap!


  • Wm Alias

    Looking outward, the almost exponential (?) world population growth, depletion of natural resources,
    weather changes, potential world: famine, financial collapse, and war ; a logical conclusion is depletion: of population, job skills, and materials, may result in a downward standard of living, returning to the need to relearn the skill sets of the times of the beginning of the US. Whew, that was a mouthful. Will this be an improvement? That is possible, depending on the morality of the survivors.

    We are addressing time, which is really change of a Quantum reality called now. These are the current projections of (my?) perception. They portray the duality and the inherent imbalances thereof …. and the possible direction of the current manifestation of destiny. As duality or opposites agree, so to does a duality of null cease to happen as now or even then.

    A balance of positive and negative duality eliminates the manifestations outlined above and based on a duality of good/evil, the outcome favors improvement.

    Actually improvement depends on which side of a specific duality one chooses to believe in.
    What one thinks is one’s reality, good or bad … a duality too.
    Balance is an end of strife and discordance; in-harmony.
    Looking from my side of duality, this is improvement.

    What one thinks (thoughts), words, then deeds (actions) when combined with others of like mind increase in magnitude. Thoughts focused with strong emotion have much more force and energy.

    Many have heard and experienced “Be careful what you wish for, you may receive it!” .

    Was it Lau Tzu that said exciting times?

    Ending of duality or opposites is accomplished by balance.
    Balance is an end of opposites, discordance; an in-harmony condition.
    Achieving balance is indeed improvement; although the process of change can be “disturbing”.

  • Ivan. New Zealand

    Thank you for brightening up my day.You bloody deserve all you get.

  • Rex

    NOT a word did the author mention of these things and why did not the author mention them? These are:

    1a. NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement), CAFTA (Central American Free Trade Agreement), GATT (General Agreement on Trade and Tarrifs) and the WTO (World Trade Organization).

    1b. Go after the Chambers of Commerce and Commonwealths across this nation as well as hitting the politicians (BOTH PARTIES) and the Prez and the DEPARTMENT OF LABOR—Be aware though that HILDA SOLIS is a Major, major supporter of ILLEGAL ALIENS. She should be fired on account of that!

    Q: How can any of these people blather (including JOHN BOEHNER and the Ruplicans) on about jobs when they NEVER mention: NAFTA, CAFTA, GATT and the WTO?

    2. ALL businesses must lose their tax breaks if they: Outsource, offshore and hire VISA WORKERS AND ILLEGAL ALIENS.

    3. All Visa workers and Illegal Aliens must go home!

    4. All businesses must be forced to use E-VERIFY and be heavily penalized if they are caught with ILLEGAL ALIEN employees. (Just look at any fast-food restaurant, restaurants, hotels, construction, gardening and maintenance for starters). Look at HOME DEPOT (with their Spanish signs in their stores) and Day Laborers hanging around.

    5. Place an immigration Moratorium and end the GREEN CARDS.
    Q: How is it we already have so many LEGAL CITIZENS who are either unemployed or underemployed and yet the businesses still demand more immigrants?

    A: Businesses are greedy and want to drive down wages.

    6. END CORPORATE PERSONHOOD LAW–This is essential!

    What I personally do, is I constantly write the politicians, prez, etc and alert other people what’s going on (ever since the BUSH-KERRY run-off).

    I intentionally go into a store and read the labels, saying very loudly, (“MADE IN CHINA, INDIA, SRI LANKA, VIETNAM, MEXICO, HONDURAS, CANADA, etc) when people are walking by–unfortunately, they either ignore me or think I’m crazy. I’ve also pointed this out to various sales people (usually young who also just roll their eyes)and I’ve tried contacting store management and email sites.

    I also try to buy (MADE IN USA) whenever possible…That’s becoming more difficult every day.

    POINTS: WE ALL HAVE TO GET BUSY and stop watching all those video games, sports and whatever distraction is being served and contact all these people and when you are going to buy something, look at the labels.

    FINALLY: This deindustrialization is ENTIRELY BY DELIBERATE DESIGN.

    To be part of the NWO (NEW WORLD ORDER) aka 1-WORLD ORDER, the U.S.A. must be reduced down to 3rd-World-Status.

    Does anybody understand that? The NWO is the reason this is being done to us–Entirely by design!

    FIGHT the NWO!

    BTW: I’m sick and tired of hearing how fat and lazy Americans are! The description of “fat and lazy” can apply to people in any nation.

  • Rex

    Correction: “Republicans.”

    I forgot to mention (one person already did, thank you) that the FEDERAL RESERVE needs to be abolished, these BANKSTERS punished and GLASS-STEAGALL must be reinstated!

    It’s mind boggling to me how the majority of BOTH political parties signed these BANKSTER BAILOUTS twice (without reading the bills-loaded with earmarks), (JOHN BOEHNER included) and these Banksters were rewarded with lavish bonuses for DELIBERATELY creating the Housing Bubble and their Derivatives Fiasco.

    What makes these Banksters so special? They should be in jail with MADOFF.

    BTW: Most of (BOTH PARTIES) serve the NWO (New World Order) aka 1-World Order: Run by the Banksters, particularly the (ROTHSCHILDS and ROCKEFELLERS)and corrupt, globalist-minded corporations.

    Many of BOTH PARTIES belong to groups like the: CFR (Council on Foreign Relations), the Trilateral Commission), the Skull-Bones Society, AIPAC, Freemasonry and attend events-meetings like the Bohemian Club and the Bilderbergs.

    Didn’t the majority of BOTH PARTIES make it crystal clear they do NOT represent us by:

    1a. Did either party do anything to secure our borders and enforce our IMMIGRATION LAWS and cutting off ALL employment and social, medical, educational, lawyer, housing, etc services to ILLEGAL ALIENS?????
    1b. Don’t they repeatedly allow ILLEGAL ALIENS to march throughout our streets across the entire nation and look the other way?
    1c. Why do BOTH parties keep allowing endless and relentless AMNESTY PROPOSALS to come up?
    1d. Many polticians of BOTH parties support the **NAU (NORTH AMERICAN UNION)**-the plan to merge: Canada, teh US and Mexico together, that’s why!

    2. Did either party do anything to end: NAFTA, CAFTA, GATT and the WTO? NO!

    Now, I get to hear about how the Republicans “care so much” about jobs, especially that BOEHNER character. It’s just naueasting to watch them, but I guess I’ll contact them next with the same questions.

    But I have No intention of voting for people of either party who refuse to represent their own legal citizens. I realize the RIGHT-LEFT Paradigm is completely false and we’re being played against each other, aka the HEGELIAN DIALECT.

  • brett bazant

    This may be true, but it is also irrelevant. The oil age is nearly done, so all this high-intensity manufacturing will end anyhow, no matter where it is. Since 100% of our nitrogen fertilizer is made directly from natural gas, we can also expect the carrying capacity of the planet to be reduced to probably less than 1 billion, within 20 years.

    So in this context, the discussion about industrialization seems somewhat… irrelevant.

  • Failure

    I’m just over 29 right now. I’ve seen nothing but failure, upon failure, upon failure in the US. By government, by businesses, but mostly by people. When I read Atlas Shrugged in high school, I thought the most unrealistic part of the story was that foolish, unrealistic, worthless people could possibly be able to run everything. And then the last 20 years happened. This country in it’s current form is doomed to fall the same way every empire has before it. Almost all solutions are made irrelevant by the current entrenched power and money structure.

    At this point might as well just wait for the next bomb to drop, so to speak. And hope to god you’re not just a silhouette on the side of a building afterwords. Hell, that’s probably the best way ‘out’.

  • Zeke

    Focus on production. Encourage your state to nullify the federal burdens on business, then start your own. Political entrepreneurs have weighted the US system against innovation and small business, so a business minded person should also prepare to leave. I’m hedging my bets and encouraging and preparing for both.

    The insanity of the US tyranny has unfortunately made staying less viable with every passing day. Never root yourself like the serfs of the Middle Ages. Prepare to find freedom wherever it may be, as this is the very concept that made this country. Our spirit, not our government, makes us great!

  • Michael P. Koryciak

    Leo: I take issue with your opinions on Unions.Not one thing you said about them is true.The transplanted,and imported vehicle manufacturers not having unions don’t have cheaper vehicles than Unionized makers. Unions came about because of abuse heaped on workers.The amount of Americans represented by Unions are at a post-WW2 low.You harp on Unions for this Countries’ problems,yet they have very little power to represent their members’ interests.They talk a good game,reality is different.
    Unions today,unlike in the past;are the friend of Management;and the bosses do not want to get rid of them…they are a great benefit in helping to placate workers….a roving group of management helpers….keeping the workers “In line”.Big business NEEDS Unions.

  • Robert R

    We need to get serious about colonizing The Moon,then Mars and beyond. Industrial Societies need expanding markets to grow and justify their existence. We can disperse our population and pollution problems by moving outward into The Solar System. The adventure!!!

  • Rex

    Why do unions insist on supporting Illegal Aliens?

  • FredW

    I agree with Joe7000, WW-III is what is next. That’s the only way to distract the people and paper over the financial mess.

  • Rex

    Thank you Ronin on AGENDA 21 and Something Wicked this Way Comes and for all those who recognize that the FEDERAL RESERVE is the problem and our deindustrialization is being done by design.

  • Don’t blame the evil manufacturers! Put the blame where it belongs – on GOVERNMENT.- The united States Government and all the complicit state governments and all the complicit local governments. Business wants to produce the products consumers want at a competitive price: consumers want the products they want at a reasonable price. If GOVERNMENT puts obstacles and costs in the production process, business will find ways to reduce these costs, and one way is to move production offshore. Again, don’t blame business – blame GOVERNMENT. As long as YOU want the cheapest cost for manufactured products, business will find a way to deliver it.

    The consequences of government driving the costs of production up are what we are faced with now – deindustrialization. Of course this has been with the complicity of both big business and big labor.

    I think it is too late to change as we are past the point of no return economically. The permanently entrenched bureaucracy – from city worker to President – will never relinquish power voluntarily. We can only hope for a rebirth of the foundations of America after the collapse.

    In the meantime, I propose restoring the concept of “Tar and Feather” for our illustrious politicians who have run this country into the ground.

  • Rex

    The reason our borders are left wide open is because of the NAU (NORTH AMERICAN UNION)-the plan to merge: Canada, the USA and Mexico together.

    That’s why absolutely nothing is being done to enforce our immigration laws and secure our borders, why Illegal aliens are continually allowed to march through our streets demanding AMNESTY-DREAM ACT, why all services are NOT cut off or all employment of ILLEGALS ended, why retail is allowed to cater to the Spanish-speaking illegal aliens (note the increased Spanish signage in stores, packaging, advertising), etc.

    And why we have umpteenth attempts to grant another AMNESTY. Anybody remember the 1986 AMNESTY?

    The “SYSTEM IS BROKEN?” Our government, (BOTH PARTIES) refuse to enforce the laws already on the books!

    In San Jose, CA, they are displacing the culture. They have NOT funded the U.S.A. INDEPENCE DAY HOLIDAY for 2 years and ended the TAPESTRY AND TALENT EVENT.

    Instead, what San Jose did, was make a move to boycott Arizona and had a huge bash for CINCO de MAYO and the MEXICAN INDEPENDENCE DAY in September and now, they have a big Mariachi festival going on. They also cater to other (“multicultural events”).

    Just like the EU (European Union), we’re next.

    The planet’s nations’ borders are being erased and set up in blocs for the NWO (NEW WORLD ORDER) aka 1-WORLD ORDER.

  • SilverMoon

    When the People fear the governmet there is tyranny….when the government fears the People there is liberty.

    The US govt. is showing cracks of fear when they start arresting ‘suspected domestic terrorist’ & we are now seeing more of this in America.

  • Rex


    The You Tube trailer has actor, Danny Trejo saying very menacingly, “This is MACHETE with a Cinco de Mayo message for Arizona,” which very conviently came out on May 1st, (the MAY DAY AMNESTY march).

    According to the website of Vdare and a couple of others, this movie could have the potential of starting a potential race war and the director plans on making 2 more just like it.

    OTHER PRO-ILLEGAL ALIEN GROUPS TO WATCH OUT FOR: La Raza, MEChA, MALDEF, LULAC, La Voz de Aztlan, Mexica Movement and of course our MSM, (Mainstream Media) who insists on calling ILLEGAL ALIENS the, (“Undocumented, Migrants, immigrants, etc), but seldom calls them ILLEGAL ALIENS.

  • chunky

    if america is a 14 trillion dollar economy then why are we borrowing or printing 3 trillion a year. there seems to be a massive disconnect goin on.china’s got the cash so can’t blame companies for heading over there.the fastest growing jobs in america are cashiers, home health aides, and janitors, if that’s what a 14 trillion dollar economy looks like,we’re in trouble big time

  • Natalie

    Ross Perot warned us about this years ago and everyone just laughed at him.

  • Ken Brodeur

    #20 1987 more people worked Government jobs (not helping the GDP because it is TAXES that pay their salaries) than manufacturing. I will never forget that announcement. Also, how does SPENDING account for the P in GDP? Products are not you spending money! Lies and lying are order of the day. Maybe it should be a law that until you try to do your own business you are not allowed a job in this country!

  • Charles

    The cause of all this is capitalism itself, in which production is to serve the private profits of the owner pr shareholders.

    The answer is socialism (not the welfare-state kind of “socialism”), in which the means of production, distribution and exchange is owned by the working class and production is for social need, not private profit.

    To elaborate:-

    Many people speak in terms of a productive, industrial capitalism versus a speculative finance capitalism; small-holder (mom and pop) style capitalism providing a huge variety of competitive choices as in a bazaar versus an oligopoly or a monopoly capitalism as in a Wal Mart or a Microsoft; free market capitalism versus regulated capitalism monopolies.

    However, what they do not realise is that these different kinds of capitalism are like two sides of a coin, just as us in the flower of our youth are the same person as us in the twilight years of our old age.

    In the early days of an industry,such as the auto, entertainment, oil & gas, information technology and other industries, they are very much at the small-holder stage and exist in a free-market ecosystem in which there is intense competition and choice.

    In the process of competition, the weaker players drop out, leaving fewer strong, bigger and richer players in the field and this process repeats until there are only a handful of big corporate players left. This state may exist for a very long time but eventually gravitates into a monopoly.

    For example, in the 1970s there was Boeing, McDonnell Douglas and Lockheed which made most commercial airliners in the U.S. and while there were more earlier, however today,only Boeing is left standing.

    The information technology is in an oligopoly state now, in which Microsoft dominates by far on desktop PCs, while Apple has a minor share and Linux, a mere sliver.

    In the 1980s, while Microsoft MS-DOS was the major operating system on most desktop PCs, there was a huge, competitive market for applications software such as word processors (WordStar, Word Perfect, Multimate, Display Write, PFS Write, Microsoft Word, etc); database (dBase, Foxbase, etc); spreadsheet (VisiCalc, Lotus 123, Quattro Pro, Easy Office, Framework, etc).

    However, in the late 80s and early 90s, Microsoft’s OfficeSuite (Word, Excel, Access and PowerPoint), riding on top of Windows, pushed all of the others into the sidelines and now dominates the desktop PC space.

    So what began 30 years ago as a competitive, free-market capitalist ecosystem has now gravitated into what practically is a monopoly capitalist environment – basically, a free-market has gravitated towards a monopoly.

    This process has happened with other which came industries before IT and will happen with the emerging industries and to come, and preventing it within the framework of capitalism requires regulation, not the unfettered capitalism; just as dams and levees are required to hold back water, remove them and you have a flood.

    Moving on to wages, protectionism and tariff barriers – even without unions demanding higher wages, as the capitalist economy grows and there’s more employment, rising consumer demand for goods and services leads to a rising cost of living, leading in turn to employees needing higher wages just to maintain their living standard in a particular country. This has happened in Asian countries, such as Japan, Taiwan and South Korea, where prices are much higher than even in the U.S., where these were once low-wage countries.

    With protectionism and tariff barriers, the capitalist economic ecosystem can be maintained, where goods are produced in a country to supply markets in the country or neighbouring countries with similar standards of living.

    The manufacturers set up factories in other countries to produce goods for those markets, for example For cars made in Britain for the British market and smaller than those made in the U.S. for the American market.

    Also, manufacturers have set up assembly plants in poorer countries to supply more affordable cars in those markets.

    However, with globalisation and open borders, which came into prominence, especially after the end of the Cold War, these respective “fenced” ecosystems have been upset, which is what has happened in the developed countries of North America, Europe and even Asia, leading to the loss of jobs for workers with an average level of education and now even with high levels of education, to regions where labour costs are lower.

    While proponents of globalisation and open borders argue that workers in the more developed countries must re-skill themselves for higher skilled work, how many people either have the capability or the finances to do so. Well the result is there for all to see in countries such as the U.S. and even in countries such as Malaysia and Singapore, where the many foreign and domestically owned assembly plants are moving to lower wage countries such as Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam and China.

    For example, assembly plant workers in Singapore are being retrained to work in casinos.

    So what’s the solution?

    Well, the only one within the capitalist framework is to revert back to the protected market environments, especially prior to the 1994 GATT which led to the World Trade Organisation.

    However, how long these regulation will last is another questions, just as protective legistation such as the Glass-Steagal Act were overturned by politicians.

    The other solution and a permanent one – is to get rid of capitalism altogether and to establish socialism, in which production serves the needs of society, not private profit.

    Under socialism, since the facilitie sof production are in the hands of the workers, robotics and automation will not result in unemployment but in workers being able to upgrade themselves to develop, produce and improve upon the machines of production.

    At the same time, more people will be able to work in other areas such as healthcare, education and so on to improve upon the overall livelihood of society, where medical care will either be highly affordable or even free.

    Workers will also also enjoy more leisure time and much greater security in life.

    However, getting there will require a revolution.

  • Robert Bolman

    Human beings in general but politicians and corporate executives in particular have the most amazing capacity for talking themselves into believing absolutely ridiculous thing when doing so happens to be convenient. If we had a friend who was an abusive alcoholic, we would talk about human psychology. We’d say, “He’s in a lot of denial. How are we going to get him to so some soul searching?”, etc. Meanwhile, the politicians and corporate executives who are screwing the majority of the world’s people and future generations are in deep denial and delusion or perhaps they are sociopaths, pure & simple. And yet, all we can say is, “That politician is sleazy and that corporate executive id greedy.” We have got to bring human psychology into the discussion. And this is in perfect keeping with the old truism that HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS MUST CHANGE for our problems to be solved. Indeed, we may fixate on the behavior of politicians and corporate executives, but this is a broadly human thing. We all do this to some extent. Our species needs to develop an enhanced faculty of discernment. An increased ability to see what’s in front of out eyes – in the hope that we will begin to believe what is true rather than believing what happens to be convenient.

  • Emery

    “Global free trade has become a sacred principle of modern economic theory, a sort of generally accepted moral dogma. That is why it is so difficult to persuade politicians and economists to reassess its effects on a world economy which is changing radically.
    The ultimate objective of global free trade is to create a worldwide market in products, services, capital and labour. Its instrument to achieve this is GATT, the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade.
    I believe that GATT and the theories on which it is based are flawed. If it is implemented, it will impoverish and destabilize the industrialized world while at the same time cruelly ravaging the third world.” -SIR JAMES GOLDSMITH

    This part of the testimony delivered by Sir James Goldsmith before congress in 1994. They did not listen. I quote it because it is stated so well. The disaster he predicted in 1994 is now becoming our economic reality.

    America is being destroyed by the Free Traitors. They make lots of money while they betray us and sell us off. Free Trade Robber Baron Warren Buffet is a good example. He made his billions by selling of America one factory at a time. It’s a CFR policy to destroy America and turn us into economic slaves of the New World Order. Debt is slavery.

  • Been watching manufacturing leave the US for years. Soon the only jobs will be at Walmart and McDonalds, not to knock them at least they provide jobs. Used to work in manufacturing, computer/video/audio tape and disks for disk drives, all that went out of the country in the 80’s, been in sales since. Unfortunately nothing we can do. The government, has learned to protect itself and will destroy any who endanger it. Exagerating, but not much, and not for long…

    Lee Murray

  • gregg

    Instead of the U.S.A. we should be using U.T.C.= United Territories of China!!!.

  • Tom

    Ross Perot was a religous righter. We dodged a bullet avoiding him!

  • Paul

    Jeff and Rosie,

    Good points and I am with you!

  • Paul

    I am not joking. Just shut down face book, you tube and all the social networking sites for two months. People may realize whats going on in US.

  • Sheraz

    I see lot of people are talking about various solutions, but what is the actual probability of thing getting better, I mean does anyone think that government will do anything to make things better, it haven’t so far.

  • l fitton

    there is only one way america can recover its manufacturing capacity: robotics and robots. the future will find them ubiquitous. time to get in on the ground floor or lose out once again to east asia.

  • Heatmiser

    Losing manufacturing jobs to other nations may not have mattered as much if we had taken the next step in industrialization. We should have spent the last 20 years opening technical schools and enticing young people to careers in Science and Engineering. We could have been developing technology that all the other countries in the world needed – and would pay for. This could have off-set those lost jobs.

    However, we spent those years sending our young people to law school, business school and fashion school. We laughed the whole time at scientists and engineers and thought of them as nerds. Who wants to be a nerd? Not us, we want to work for a good law firm and be well dressed.

    We used to generate wealth by innovating new technology and applying good old-fashioned elbow grease, but now our idea of generating wealth is to charge each other hidden interest charges, force more and better types of insurance on each other and, when that isn’t enough, we sue each other into oblivion. How do you export law suits?

    BTW – I happen to believe in capitalism. The problem with ours is, as the article states, that we are fat and lazy.

  • Bettijo

    I have read some excellent thoughts and suggestions here. I, personally, think our biggest problem is our tax on production. Our income tax has driven many of our manufacturing businesses off shore. We need The FairTax. This is not a VAT, it is a one-time sales tax on the final sale of a new item. Resales are not taxed. If you are not familiar with this, please Google it, they have a web site. It is a-win-win situation. First introduced by my representative, John Linder of Georgia, it is now being promoted by a lot of people including TEA Partiers. The FairTax would replace all taxes and would solve the Social Security problem. I saw Donald Thrump on TV and he said he knew of businesses who had left this country because of the tax. The announcer commented that Mr. Trump had not left. His answer, “Yet.”

    Then get the federal government out of the way. Cut regulations, restrictions, government oversight, etc. and let businesses get on with what they do best.

    We must get rid of this “entitlement mentality.” We must again take pride in a hard day’s work.

    The next thing we need to do is get rid of unions, both public and private. I believe unions are one of the main causes of the auto makers problems. Of course poor management made unwise contracts with labor. Labor unions were needed at one time, but not any more.

    We must secure our borders and find someway to solve the illegal problem that is taking some jobs away from citizens.

    Turn education back to the states. As you can see, once I got started I just thinking of more and more things that need to be fixed.

  • Fred

    The ridiculously high U.S. corporate tax rate is pushing jobs overseas. Corporations will do whatever the can to book their profits in foreign countries where the taxes are lower. By manufacturing goods overseas, they can claim all their profits in the country where they did the manufacturing. They end up paying no taxes in the U.S.

    So we have a high tax rate that results in little tax revenue. The solution is simple: lower the corporate tax rate. This would actually INCREASE revenue.

    For those who say the jobs would leave anyway, yes, that is true for some products. But for bulky or high cost products, the cost of logistics and inventory usually outweigh the labor savings. The deciding factor is usually the tax rate.

    Cut the tax rate from 35% to 20%, and the jobs would flow back into the U.S. like a river.

  • Marek Janko

    September 27th, 2010 at 3:07 am

    “The answer is socialism (n…”

    You have no idea what socialism is, or what socialism creates. I lived in so called socialism based on Marxism-Leninism for thirty (30) years. How much experience with socialism do you have?

    All socialist experiments collapsed economies in respective states. That is a fact in last sixty (60) years.

    Tell me what socialism do you have on your mind and why should YOUR idea works!

    Marxist-Leninist ideas does not work. They create fascism and ruling oligarchy, while they destroy it’s own people.

  • Perry Reed

    A partial solution would be to increase domestic (US) oil production, partiuclarly in Alaska where the USGS says we have 8% of the worlds known oil reserves in the ANWR. This would not only produce trillions of dollars of wealth, but much of this wealth would find it’s way into the tax base and other oil-related industries.

    I realize this does not directly address the author’s request for direct solutions to America’s industrial erosion, but it is a start. Wealth production is wealth production, whether it is from industrial or raw material production.

  • No one here has given a good explanation how our nation can survive in a post-industrial, post-employment America. Fortunately, I have a plan that I have based on the the Zero Point Profit phenomenon presently occurring. For example, papers are going broke because you can get your news free on the internet. Also, young people are using couch surfing via the web to travel without housing charges. Based on ZPP, I think we need to begin developing new tribal and clan identities based on my Montana Sanctuary concept. This is in fact a change of state (water to ice)process. You can read more about it here:

  • David

    The next crisis, coming soon is: The Student Loan Bubble is just about to burst! Almost One Trillion Dollars in Student loan debts, which US Government along with their predatory lenders like Sallie Mae have scammed American people with those so called worthless pieces of papers in their hands and very unlikely those graduates able to find a job, especially in this time of serious recession and crisis! Please visit
    For more information. The United States of America is sham, and this the biggest scandal of this century as far as I am concern. We all know more troubles would be ahead for America, but this is more serious than Sub-Prime Mortgage crisis coming up. I wish it were just problem in US to focus on. America is in trouble folks!

  • I notice there is no mention of planned obsolescence in the article. John Kenneth Galbraith wrote about it in 1959 in his book, The Affluent Society.

    That was 10 years before the Moon landing. What have most economists said about it since 1969.

    In 1995 there were 200,000,000 cars in the US. How much do Americans lose on the depreciation of automobiles every year? At $1,500 per care per year that is $300,000,000,000 every year. But out economists have said nothing about that.

    STUPID CONSUMERISM may be a form of capitalism but I don’t hear economists saying that accounting should be mandatory in our schools. Double-entry accounting is SEVEN HUNDRED YEARS OLD. Stupid consumerism is just a high technology form of SLAVERY. Now we have the planned obsolescence of computer software. Sure kindergarten kids need computers more powerful than 1980 mainframes.

  • Charles

    I forgot to mention in my earlier the competitive forces driving capitalism to outsource production and services overseas.

    It begins with one company in an industry moving its production and services to a lower wage, lower cost country to realise cost benefits,which allows it to produce goods cheaper, which it can then sell cheaper in the United States and elsewhere.

    That puts competitive pressure on the others withing its industry to do the same.

    Hence, it’s the very market forces which Neo Liberals economic advocates so love which compels companies to move production and operations overseas, leading to a hollowing out of good paying jobs at home.

    The immediate solution within the capitalist framework is a more tightly regulated capitalism which is forced to keep production at home, especially for the home market.

    If they want to set up production plants overseas, it should be to produce goods cheaper for people in those markets where incomes are generally lower.

    Neo Liberals may not like this but it’s necessary for the social good.

    That way, it provides them jobs and raises their standard of living as well, while it enables the companies to make a profit from these markets – basically a win-win situation which prospers all.

  • Well folks America has also taken more lives through GENOCIDE/chattle slavery nuclear attacks on innocent women and babies NOW SHE MUST PAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Doug

    Charles socialism always sounds good on paper. I don’t understand why the whole world has not gone to socialism. It seems even now Europe is moving away from it. Seeing the history of socialism tells me it might be good on paper, but it does not work in the real word. From the research I have done Socialism only extends the poverty level higher into the middle class in stead of reducing it. It brings people down not up, except for the elite ruling class who get the most benefit. I also think Socialism takes away the initiative of the average Joe. When everyone is expecting someone else to take care of them eventually you overcome the producers with consumers. I believe this is major flaw in Socialism and the reason it will never work in any form.

  • Darryl

    I have a very simple solution to the problem..
    what do you guys think about and import duty tax on all foreign made goods and services that is directly equal to the of labor rate of foreign labor versus domestic labor?

    let’s take two factories for example…
    1 in the united states, and 1 in china …both of them produce microwave ovens. the factory in the united states pays its workers $15 per hour, the 1 the in china, $2 per hour.

    each microwave that is produced requires 10 hours of labor… socal 1 produced in the united states has $150 worth of labor associated with its price tag, the 1 from china, $20.

    under our current free market economic model, both the chinese and american made microwaves sell for $200… the difference is the chinese company pockets an additional $130 over the american company for the exact same sale of the exact same product ,,,though we clearly now that the american produced model will generally be of the superior quality workmanship and materials that we expect of american made products.

    as a direct result the chinese company can sell hits microwave 450 or 60 bucks or less then the american company and still realize a significantly higher profit margin than the american company … naturally the consumer will choose the cheaper of the 2 products .

    if an “labor import offset duty tax” were introduced, the chinese company would be forced to pay $130 in taxes per microwave for the privilege of selling its products in the united states at the EXPENSE off american jobs.

    if this idea were implemented, both of microwaves would cost exactly the same amount. the chinese company would not be able 2 discount its products below that of the american manufacturer, allowing american consumers to choose the higher quality domestically produced unit without sacrificing american jobs.

    this idea has the double benefit of allowing foreign manufacturers to produce products that are of superior quality to american made products.. like for example mercedes-benz or bmw automobiles, that discriminating consumers who demand the highest quality, would not mind paying the premium for.

    since the government would then be able to collect the majority of business taxes from this import duty, if they would not be required it too subject domestic manufacturing facilities and businesses to the outrageous 32% business tax .

    this idea alone could save american manufacturing , put our country back to work , and level the playing field against cheap foreign labor while still giving consumers a choice any level playing field .

  • Tom

    Socalism would be much better. We have out of control capitalism and no democracy. Vote out the republicans they are killing the middle class.

  • navywetvet

    The export of manufacturing jobs was inevitable and absolutely predictable, unheeded voices have been warning for two generations that unless we compete we’ll sink. Labor not only refused to compete, they refused even to allow those who would. Have we forgotten so soon that for instance……..a simple basic small portable American built tv was costing two or three weeks salary back in the seventies, even though they were poorly made and undependable, and millions could not afford them except on a “major appliance” basis, many times requiring a loan. Then certain Asian companies simply took over the market that American labor was ignoring, the lower income American consumer. That little illustration is but the tip of the immense consumer iceberg against which big labor crashed and tore a gash in it’s side DESPITE FORTY YEARS OF WARNINGS THAT IT WAS COMING! It is completely impossible to stop consumers from looking for the most for their money, and immoral to even consider it. Why would the man who builds your furniture down in Tennessee for nine dollars an hour support your “buy American” campaign when you’re charging him seventy one dollars an hour (actual industry figure)to build his cars??? Not gonna happen, nor should it. Also, and perhaps more importantly, the one eyed beast on your desk is helping in the killing of America now. It’s a bottomless pit of free porn, blood soaked “games”, low level “pop” wisdom, sophomoric BS posing as “expert” information, unparalleled eye candy, stolen music, stolen app’s, stolen intelligence data with potentially deadly consequences, well crafted spin and outright lies, and that’s only the obvious. It’s not safe to even imply more than that. He who has an ear. A new reality is upon us, and there can be no going back. We’re rapidly approaching an era when you will earn only what you’re actually worth. Simple as that sounds it will be a terrible trial for many who have never had to face such a brutal reality, but an actual blessing to many who have never earned as much.

  • Scott

    Charles couldn’t be more wrong about Linux. Charles also doesn’t mention open office – works just as well as MS Office, but is free.

    Go lookat the statistics on NetCraft. Linux and Unix rule the server world. We’re now starting on the desktop users, too.

    There is technology out there that you can use which is safe, secure, and not written by the pirates in Redmond.

  • Danno

    This is actually kind of comical. The article is unfortunate (more on that later) but the comments are great. Haha, ha!

    Anyways, if the manufacturing base in America is declining (and we’re not the first. England.) then it’s either because

    A) American’s are too good for this crap


    B) Corporations can get it done cheaper.

    Obviously many Americans feel they are just right for this kind of crap, which leads to the question, why can it be done somewhere else for cheaper?

    Many Asian countries have developed a slick model for manufacturing. Governments make it very easy, don’t burden employers with things like working conditions or decent wage requirements.

    Well, there! This is clearly unfair!

    Not at all. If Asian people would rather be subsistence farmers than work for $30 a month, they would. But it frigging sucks being a subsistence farmer, and they’d rather not starve if it doesn’t rain one spring. They voluntarily decide to go work for a manufacturing company that pays them crap and shoves them in a sweatshop, and frankly, all the power to them!

    The truth is free trade is creating an international middle class that is truly ending poverty. Helicopter drop as many crates of food in Africa as you’d like, but they’ll keep starving a week later until the day Nike decides that Chinese workers are getting too rowdy and relocates to Somalia.

    Now, how do we save the American worker base?

    I doubt we can. We’re too wealthy, and now our wealth is being redistributed in the most macro of ways possible (until we start trading with Saturn). This is awesome news for the world, but crappy news for America.

    Our only chance is to totally embrace free labor markets and cut down on business regulation and see if we’re competitive with that. I doubt many Americans would take the pay cut, though. Which is a shame.

  • mk

    Read history. Socialism does not work. Human beings are flawed. They corrupt socialism, too. Socialism forms an elite which holds all the money and power and makes all the decisions. They are rich; the rest are poor.

    We need to return to the constitution. The founding fathers knew what they were protecting America from, and we are just about to give it over to them….complete loss of our freedom and rights.

    Wake up! We need a moral base, a foundation that will enable people to be HONEST.

    We need an honest judicial system which promotes equal rights for ALL. If you do the crime, you pay the time.

    We need to be able to trust our politicians; we need to hold them accountable.

    We need to get down on our knees and pray that we can salvage this land. It is the last bastion of freedom.

  • Manufacturing plants moving away has to do with our monetary system. A system based on debt and inflation. Our fiat systems devalues the currency to the point our dollar is worth nothing. Manufacturing plants leave because they can’t afford to pay Americans a living wage because the dollar is worthless. They have to pay so much just to allow people to survive in this economy. They can’t make money in our country. It isn’t capitalism, we haven’t had capitalism since 1913. We need to get back to a commodity based currency and get rid of the Federal Reserve. They are destroying this nation. We need to get back to capitalism and away from imperialism. Our elected officials have been bribed to allow monopolies in almost every business, look at gas, electricity, phone service, garbage there is no competition. No competition means no capitalism. An we suffer as consumers. End the Fed!

  • Brad Rice

    The greatest expense to business has never been taxes. Labor has always been the most expensive asset for business. Off shoring is about cheap labor. If you want to abolish union in America, then get your kids ready for factory jobs that pay pennies. Adults will not be able to find jobs put kids will be exploited again. The government is not a living being, it is a company made up of the same people that run your precious private industry. Private industry goes out of business and everyone forgets, government has no such luck. government trains our soldiers and do a great job doing so. So please stop saying it does nothing right! They are just our neighbors and friends trying to do there best.

  • Lotsa dumb folks

    I love these clowns who say it’s unions that are the bad guys. Talk about brainwashed morons.
    Hey stupid people – try and figure this out – the objective of a business is PROFIT. PROFIT is the difference between the selling price and the production costs.
    What is the objective of a worker? The objective of a worker is to obtain the highest amount of money for their labor possible.
    Which of these two organizations has been heavily subsidized by governments the world over?
    For example: Was it unions that demanded a new stadium for their football team (you know the stadium – it’s the one your local government used the tax money off your paycheck to pay for – NICE REBATE FOR THE businessman right?) Or how about all those car companies from all around the world (oh yeh – as a worker, you’re not allowed to try selling your labor all around the world, ARE YOU? But a business can seek profits wherever it wants!) that came into your town and beat you local government like a bitch to pony up money for a new manufacturing plant?

    See how it works you stupid, moronic union bashing idiots?
    Workers can’t do what corporations do. The only power unions have is by being local and sticking up for workers.
    Next time a fireman or a cop comes to your house over another molestation complaint, I’d love to hear you complain about unions- you snivelling crybaby.

    OH and PS you losers : Walmart in China is unionized. So suck that down.

  • Chad

    Das Kapital…..Karl Marx. Ever read it?

  • Carl

    You are wrong Tom; socialism is individual slavery to the needs of others, led by an elitist few and administered by an entrenched bureaucracy. Socialism will always lead to Totalitarianism.

    You are wrong navywetvet; the export of manufacturing jobs was NOT inevitable, it was planned and executed in service to the neoliberal ideology of global economic interdependency and the redistribution of economic wealth.

  • JerBear

    It blows my mind that people still advocate socialism as the “solution” to all of our ills. I agree that our current corporatist state is completely corrupt and broken (except from the perspective of those reaping the benefits!). However, this is not the fault of capitalism, but rather a natural result of a powerful centralized government. A corporation is a legal fiction that is only able to come into being because it has been granted special protections and privileges by government dictate. Without special government protection, most business monopolies would naturally fail over time as they are undermined by smaller, more innovative businesses.

  • Kev

    I’ll ask you all one question. Would you pay $800 for a basic DVD player so your neighbor could have a union job in the local DVD player factory?

    • Do some research – the cost of DVD player is basically the same, no matter where it is manufactured.

    • JLK

      Why not? After all, how often does one need to purchase a DVD player – at most every few years. If it’s built domestically by Americans making a living wage with good benefits, and my own access to quality jobs were dramatically better than it is now as it certainly would be with a healthy and protected manufacturing base, then yes, it would be worth the premium, and besides, if you believe a US built DVD player would cost $800, I think you are severely overestimating how much labor contributes to the cost of such things.

  • Eric

    Nothing happens by chance, laws are written by foreign governments, and corporations and passed through to congress via lobbyists. I don’t believe for one second that china and others are not playing an active role in this. It is not the high corporate tax rate in the US, nor the unions, nor lack of willing workers. It is businesses making decisions based only upon those factors that can be measured, i.e. labor costs, etc. Edward Deming tried to point out that there are things in business that can’t be measured, but must be considered, such as the impact of loss of production. The dollar amount of a plants production can be measured, but the amount of lost revenue from customers who went elsewhere can’t be measured, but is very real. The same can be said of the loss of jobs in the US from the outsourcing frienzy. The exact amount of lost market base due to a poorer population can’t be measured, but the immediate labor savings from moving to a low wage country can. Also, the quality of the outsourced products almost never goes up, so this is another unmeasureable, but negative side effect of management decisions. The real problem is lack of good management, and leadership in the US. Nuff said.

  • Doooooglass

    You need a dictator . You’re too stupid to vote !

  • 55medical

    I never cease to be amazed at the folks who think socialism is the way to go. It has never worked in the history of the world. Freedom is the answer. The plot is so thick that most simply do not see it, and they don’t want to. It is depressing. There has never been a nation like the United States, ever, in history. We have not lived under the nation our founders envisioned since shortly after our beginning. Once the elitist got their toe hold by getting control of our currency (Bank Of The United States) through a central bank, the slide began. The elite care not about the masses, because they believe that they know best,not the rest of us. The present day Federal Reserve, is neither Federal or has any Reserve. By their own admission, money is simply created out of thin air. We need to return to our founding principals, as envisioned by our founders. We have the capacity to change our government. It is called an Amendment to the Constitution. The whole issue here is complex, but We The People need to wake up. Perhaps those of us who understand what is going on can override the simpletons who have no idea.

  • 55medical

    It seems that some on here say capitalism is so terrible and needs to go away. Capitalism is the one thing that has created the most creative advancement of technology and benefits to mankind in history, not socialism. Socialism is a spawn of the devil.

  • Richard

    Whatever the case, you’ll have to be willing to pay WAY more for everything if you want to buy a product that’s made here, in our $10/hr real minimum wage, $40-$75/hour typical union factory worker pay (PLUS costly retirement, medical, unemployment benefits). The Japanese have accepted paying the highest prices in the world in order to support their domestic manufacturing base as well as supporting the multitude of middle-men that make up the Japanese product distribution system. It’s each Japanese citizen’s patriotic obligation to do their part to support their country, economy and thus their fellow countrymen.
    Result? An economy that’s a stagnant albatross. But they DO still have a (diminishing) MANUFACTURING base that adds enough vital fuel to keep their economic engine chugging along. That’s one solution, Voluntary High Dollar Capitalist Socialism.

    Another answer is a floating of the Chinese yuan, coupled with a reduction in worker pay competitive with the pay for the same job in China and India. Nobody will have any money, prices for everything will have to come down to meet demand. We will HAVE to rebuild our manufacturing base because the shipping cost to import Chinese goods will be higher than it costs to produce the same product here.

    This is pie in the sky, I know, but fact is, the ONLY way to keep manufacturing at home is to pay for it in one way or another. We didn’t want to, so we opted for lower cost production overseas.

    “The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.”
    – Margaret Thatcher –

    • bo

      You know, the biggest reason prices are so high in this country is INFLATION, because of too much debt, too much printed money from the fed to “correct” the situation. Bring back manufacturings, pay off debt, get rid of super high inflation and our wages and prices will be that of the 50’s again.

  • Lindsay Lohan

    The simple answer is that there is no simple answer. We have become a nation more interested in what’s happening on TMZ that whats happening in Washington. The rock star mentality has affected politics, business, sports, education, etc. Americans don’t care what’s really going on, until it affects them personally. By then it’s too late.

    Treu there have been warninbg signs that we were headed for this, for over 40 years. We feared the Middle East, in the 70’s, because they controlled the oil and we were dependent. What did we do? Why build the SUV, of course! THIS solved the problem!

    We feared the Japanese in the 80s because they were efficient and thrifty. they bought our failing businesses and made them profitable again. We imported their products to the point where they were buying US real estate at break-neck speed. What did we do? We got them involved in derivitives and US securities and nearly bankrupted their economy.

    In the 90s, we thought ‘tech’ was going to make us dominant, again and everyone would retire rich. Anyone with a url could get millions of dollars in financing from dopy, greedy investors, who wanted to take an easy ride to riches. The bubble burst and billions were lost. People lost their retirements and more, then, too.

    Bring on the new millenium. EVERYONE deserves a new home! Those who already HAVE a home, deserve an much BIGGER home! Our crafty politicians designed legislation to not only make borrowing easier, but FORCED lenders to give out the cash, when the borrower had no documentation that the information on the application was accurate or even true. Lenders KNEW this was wrong and didn’t want to get stuck with huge amounts of high risk paper, so they bundled ’em up and sold them around the world as ‘investments’. THEN they bought securities, betting that these securities would default.

    Our population has been duped time after time, not by business, not by politicians, not by foriegn governments, but by ourselves. We refuse to read. We refuse to learn how the world works. We refuse to work hard, save a little, invest conservatively and live a quiet life. We’re always looking for ‘the next big thing’ so we can get ahead of the other guy. We’re so focused on what the other person does or has, we ignore what we SHOULD be doing.

    Our problems are not business, or politics or the other guy. Our problem is our own culture and how WE direct it. Want to fix things? Take stock of what you do, every day, including reading this post. How productive is it? How is this improving you, as a person? Grow up!! I’d be willing to bet that half of you read this just because of the name at the top.

  • Ed

    Dear Readers,

    This deindustrialisation has been planned for decades. The elite (politicians in any party and any country going WAY back)have an inside line, therefore, they plan on being the aristocrats of the world. They know that the implementation of this plan requires servants to comply. To comply, the rationale is to convince servants that kaos will happen. To create kaos the elite know that war is not the answer. The elite know that kaos will happen with the threat of economic disaster and that economic disaster will happen by removing industry in any over-producing country and shift it to an under-producing country, to “balance” or “share” the wealth.
    This is PLANNED. Industry worldwide has the technology to produce energy related products to use liitle or no energy after the initial manufacturing process, ie; solar panels. The big oil industry cannoy allow this. The oil industry will collapse along with all associated production.
    The U.S. Gov is the leader in this analysis. The plan is in full implementation and is constantly being evaluted.
    The last report issued by the U.S. Department of NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE COUNCIL can be found and downloaded by anyone with internet. This may change soon so here is the link.

    The report is a link on this page:

    Fox News will be covering this report on Friday, 9-1-2010 at 5:00 U.S. Eastern time on the GB program.
    I always knew that energy technology was not utilized and developed to its full potential because of the fall of enrgy companies and the associated companies to maintain certain economical reasons, but to reduce the welfare of the United States citizen and put them at an elevated economic risk to appease the small number of elitest is unconstitutional.

    And, now you know that one of the best industries that you can go to college and obtain a degree for is Economics 101.


  • Robert

    Civilizations take a long time to collapse; an economy can collapse overnight.
    While there are millions of Americans right now who suspect this has already happened – we ain’t seen nothing yet.

  • Retiredtanker

    Bottom Line…The USA needs to make it as painful as it can to import goods into the US. Offer incentives to those companies that moved overseas to move back to the US. Offer other incentives for other companies to move their production facilities into the US. Their is no such thing as fair trade when your Country’s economic health is at risk.

  • John Hoctor

    Get the cobwebs out Amurika this is the sudden death match the Repunks wanted for years. It’s too late Mr. Author of this excellent piece, I’m sorry to report. They strangled the country the ruling class. So you think you want a revolution? Damn right. You have nothing to loose as comment 193 implies but your chains. OR do you continually want to be a slave to China and its USA corpros masters? Get a grip, get control and get angry, off with the masters of wars heads, our president and his Repunk stand in coming next yr will do nothing to really stop the slide ONLY we can stop it with our faith in our country, strength in numbers, and a firm stand NOW!!! OUT of empire wars now. That is number one, and Mr Author you didn’t mention it…how come every other country in the world either defends themselves from the barbarians at the gates or has Mr Gates at DOD actually and directly defend them from the bowels of the USA wehrmach? Out of empire now to save this great Republic!!!! Tax cuts and pandering Jesus soccer moms are not the answer.

  • Doug G

    In response:
    Ladalang, if you want to return to a comodity based currency, I presume gold, where are you going to get enough to cover all the current wealth, value, and price of everything? How much gold will it take to buy a loaf of Great Value 100% whole wheat bread? It’s $1.48 I think. That’s not a lot of gold @ $1200 / ounce. “Money” is a tool, a convenience allowing more extensive trade than swapping arrowheads and skins.
    And as for monopolies, because of delivery constrictions we have few natural gas suppliers in a state or region. However, some clever MBA (probably) figured out that with one electricity delivery company you could have many retailers. Electricity prices for my zipcode range from 8.8 cents per KWH to 16.1 cents. There are lots of competing companies and technologies for phone service. There are also many garbage collecting companies that can compete for a municipality’s business.

    55medical, who died and left you to be the elite? You state that the current elite do not care about the masses. (You are probably correct!) But, with your overriding the simpletons who don’t believe what you want them to, I do not see that you are any better an elite than what we have know.

  • john

    A simple challeng to charles the socialist…name ONE successful socialist economy…no, not the fake Swedish socialism where they sell their manufactured goods to good capitlaist countries….volvo, saab, ikea, etc….but a real socialist country. You know, one where the workers live in the lap of luxury, never having to worry about where their bread comes from………..i’m waiting………………a workers paradise, free from those nasty capitalist inventions like cars, phones, airplanes,cigarettes, stoves,toilets, pharmacuticals,hospitals……….im waiting charles.

  • (1) What is nature of this problem?
    you mention trade deficits, job loss, services vs. manufacturing, loss of “wealth”
    (2) What are the advisable solutions?
    (3) Do you subscribe to the pre-Adam Smith idea that a negative trade balance means that “wealth” is leaving the country? Do you realize that this idea was the justification for colonialism?
    (4) Do you realize that to an economist, a negative trade balance means that foreign nations are investing in America?

  • razor

    Lindsay Lohan, for the record I didn’t even notice your screenname until you mentioned it. 🙂

    Your post was the most coherent and realistic take on the state of affairs in all the comments in the whole thread. You are 100% correct. I know this and you know this. The problem is the average citizen is either too dumb, too busy or too ignorant to understand that their behavior, en masse with the rest of the like “minded” (term used liberally) population, is the cause of their own misery. My friend I am sad to say it’s too late. I don’t see how things turn around at this point. People like you and I are no longer surrounded by a majority of what we would refer to as peers. Time to circle the wagons and watch out for yourself and your family since that is all you can control at this point…

  • had enough

    Now that we have 35 million migrants and 12-20 million illegals all of these manufacturing companies say they needed and the companies leave the U.S to China and India and for less salaries.
    Now there are no jobs for all of the migrants & illegals are left to U.S. citizens to now care for
    at the cost of what few U.S. citizens are left.
    What a pathetic government. Why can’t this article make headlines in CNN & FOX NEWS to inform the public!

  • Fred

    Americans are reaping what they have sown.

    To quote the great Nelson Munce “HA-HA!”

  • j

    manufacturing leaves a country for a reason: more and more restrictive laws are passed that make continued operation in a restricted region unwise. This is inevitable economic law. Crying about it and trying to force everyone to do something else about it is not the answer. Eliminating the coercive power of those who use oppression to enforce these restrictive laws is what is needed. And its not going to happen until the majority gets truly educated about freedom.

  • Paul Barbot

    I can see your point from a business standpoint, yet the human implications need to also be considered as well. These large corporations need to understand that the people who work for them drive their profits. The government is the real culprit though, for not making this type of maneuver illegal. Corporations that move jobs over seas should be taxed aggressively and then be hit again when they try and import those same goods that they had made. The regulations are for the consumers safety as well. Why do you think companies move jobs, one is the slave wages they can pay for the manfuacturing of those products and the second is the complete removal of any safety precautions, both for the workers and the products that are being made. You really need to stop looking at things so narrowly. Broaden your view and you will see the whole picture.

  • Jerry

    Everyone will be shocked to know that:

    1. The US manufactures more now than any other time in its history.

    2. The US manufactures more now than any other country in the world.

    100% true – don’t take my word for it; do some research online. Hard to believe given the constant implication by the media and articles like above that would lead you to believe we don’t produce anything in the U.S. anymore. It’s simply not true.

    Most of the decrease in manufacturing jobs comes from technology. What took 20 men to manufacture 50 years ago can now be done with one man. Robotics and computers have made every industry more efficient including manufacturing.

    What the U.S. does need to do is resist the temptation to jerry-rig the economy by forcing companies to do this or do that. That is what will drive companies offshore. We need to make this the best place in the world to do business. Reasonable tax rates and sensible regulations.

    Here’s another lie that the media and politicians have been pushing for years: tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. A lot of political ads are pushing that right now. It’s a myth. There are no tax breaks for offshore outsourcing jobs. I know – I own my own business and outsource about 15 positions to Pakistan. I told my CPA after the Bush/Kerry election that I wanted to get these tax breaks I kept hearing about for having jobs overseas. Well, there’s no such thing. It’s unbelievable that this lie continues with no one calling anyone on it. Again, don’t take my word for it, ask a CPA or tax attorney. They won’t be able to tell you what these tax breaks are b/c they don’t exist. It sure sounds good in a political sound bite though.

    Demand the truth.

  • Free trade!! We need more free trade! Only by maximizing the profits to be made by offshoring can we hope to minimize offshoring!
    uh, right?

    Is there any intelligent life out there??

  • JP

    “The US manufactures more now than any other time in its history”

    Not in relative terms

    “The US manufactures more now than any other country in the world.”

    Not so long ago, the US manufactured more than the rest of the world combined. The US quota of world manufacture has declined steadily.

    “What took 20 men to manufacture 50 years ago can now be done with one man”

    False. Technology just shifts human work elsewhere.
    A fully mechanized production process produces even more entropy than a manual one; that’s the 2nd law of thermodynamics. Entropy has to be dealt with. And since nature will not help with robots — nature likes to depreciate this kind of capital — it falls on human hands and brains to do the the job of keeping the machines humming along. Economists say this is capital intensive to the extreme. Labor has to be used up elsewhere to generate that kind of capital.

  • jimbo

    The article doesn’t talk about the living conditions or working conditions of those Chinese workers making all of the product for “consuming” Americans. Politicians all talk about ” bringing jobs back to America”. But they don’t make the decisions on where jobs go. CEO’s of major corporations do. And they make those decisions based on global competition. So if we have global competition, then why not have global safety standards (OSHA), global environmental standards (EPA), and global minimum wage standards. The US needs to push for these changes through the United Nations.

  • Ampibian

    I wonder if there is any hope left? The people who built the America we used to know came from the depression and WWII and the Korean era knew hardships. These people didn’t know luxury but only what a meal meant, a warm house, family, and community.I beleive our core values as a nation have been compromised by hollow promises that have never been fullfiled and never will. Today a college education means almost nothing a young person has to have a graduate degree, what is next? Do we all have to make 100,000.00 dolalrs a year? If why? Becasue capitalism has to expand, that is why we have recessions, to adjust the system and begin over. Some people say let it go and start all over, I think this is the only way to wake ourselves up.

  • KooKooKaChu

    Socialism? really? That is the response to someone voicing their opinion that globalism and De-industrialization are not great things for the USA. That is just sad and it shows that those who use the socialism card don’t see a problem with weakening the USA in a time of war. Globalism is treason.

  • Ms. Whoseville?

    I hear all these fancy sayings, some I agree with some I do not. But what the hay!! What are we gonna do about it? I say take back what has been taken from us. There really is plenty to go around. So what’s the point in being greedy? Our friends and family need their jobs. We have good people right here that can do the same job as those over seas, yes it cost more here cause of the cost of living. Just think if housing cost here was like that of those countries over seas we would not have a high rate of homelessness. Think about that.

  • CW

    I think that you said it all. Anyone that can’t see this is either an idiot or a complete fool.
    America has turned into an upside down pyramid, where only the wealthy have enough food and housing. And what they don’t understand is this: while they sip on their martinis poolside their insulated world is crumbling all around them and it is over for them too.
    America’s days are numbered that is clear. Short-term goals and extreme greed at the top has caused these collapses and they will continue until America is the laughing stock of the whole world.

    (note, please delete the first two posts for misspellings. Thanks)

  • The problem with america is 2 fold
    unrestricted trade .it is impossible to compete with someone that pays 6 dollars a month for rent..when it is 200 times that in america.secondly non productive workers in america such as politicians sports figures entertainers etc.should be taxed at 99% while productive workers should pay no tax….after all they produce everything.without these 2 reforms…america will cease to be, before the end of this decade

    • I’m With the Band

      Every time you turn on the radio or tv, you are enjoying something that entertainers have produced. Why pick on us?

  • carlos

    our forefathers left us instructions on how to run and live in this country .polititions keep changing our constitution to benefit themselfs.lobyist are criminals yet its in white and black and we turn our backs on it .news media is controled.botton line companies move away,to not pay taxes and give the same jobs to underpayed employees its call slavery all over again . its so sad what this country is becoming big bussiness has taking over this country..what our forefathers said not to do but is being done evryday …

  • Jay

    Ever heard of tariff wars. Making the import of foreign goods just makes things far worse. How about eliminating unions, minimum wages, public assistance, government subsidies, and just being more competitive. Having strong independent citizens not dependent on government will build a powerful economy.

    • Guy_Fawkes

      The British empire tried free trade in the 19th century and had to abandon it for much the same reasons America is going to have to abandon it. The irony of the current situation is that it has happened before. It just happened so long ago, nobody except a few history professors and students know about it. We forget the reasons certain policies and social group were originally enacted and created, such as labour unions, public assistance, government subsidies, etc. The amount of violence you will be unleashing if you eliminate food subsidies on basic staples (eggs, milk, wheat, etc.) and remove minimum wage and social assistance will be catastrophic. The United States WILL have to simply stop trading with China and any other military dictatorships which can oppress their people with direct force to keep wages down, or you’ll have to become just like them. Believe it.

    • Bruce

      your logic fails when you realize that when we had tarrifs and unions and minimum wages we also had the largest economy of the world outproducing the entire world. We are now forced to compete with slave wages in China and now the economy is going into the crapper

      • Thats when America started dying. Go back to the 20’s when more upward mobility has happened than in anytime in history. There was no unions nor minimum wages.

        • That Guy

          Yeah, because the roarin’ 20s ended on such a positive note

        • DagNabBit

          I’ll bet there are no unions or minimum wages where these factories are moving to, either. And I hear the Chinesee built 200 cities that are still empty. Over 60,000,000 empty apartments that go for $300,000 that no one can afford because they only make $6,000/year. But the Chin had a lot of extra cash and bought a lot of resources and building material that kept the illusion going for quite some time now. And now the music is stopping. What happens next ? The people in the USA will be too broke to buy Chin stuff, and Chin will quit buying material from USA, so what we get is…COLLAPSE !

    • mikem68

      that is the corporate kool aid you are supposed to drink. much like your freedom of speech stops when you scream “fire” in a crowded movie theatre, freedom of capitalism should stop when it threatens national security. I think shipping american jobs overseas easily meets that criteria

      • robert108

        The cost of Marxist/Democrat govt is what is driving those jobs overseas. If it were just about wages, no business would want to locate here, but the reality is that they only leave when taxation and regulation drive them out. Unionism has metastasized out of control. “Collective bargaining” is a joke when the union is national and the employer is local, and when the public sector unions bargain with elected officials whose campaigns they have financed and promoted. Stop the circle of corruption between the Democrat Party and the unions, and dial back on taxation and regulation, and the jobs will come flying back.

        • That Guy

          The United States has the smallest amount of workforce that is unionised in the industrialised world

  • @Jay: The whole system is faked because of

    a) The Federal Reserve System Ron Paul fights against

    b) The destructive free trade, Lyndon LaRouche as a democratic humanist and progressive Tea Party Member is against…I prefer intelligent protectionism!

    Peak Oil and 9.11.: Michael C. Ruppters Peak Oil Blog

    100 Mal Niedergang [07.10.2011]

    100 Zahlen und Fakten über den Niedergang der US-Ökonomie.

    China kommt natürlich auch darin vor, unter Nr. 65, 67, 68 und 69.

    » weiterlesen »

    Lyndon LaRouche: Against free trade and for protectionism

  • 15 Mind-Blowing Facts About Wealth And Inequality In America. Information Clearing House, Grafiken über Einkommens- und Vermögensverteilung in den USA

    The LaRouche Movement

    Critically I have to say, that Lyndon LaRouche makes misstake about three themes

    a) The is an islamic terrorism, it is not just a fake!

    b) Climate change is real, Ice is melting at the Andes and Alpes

    c) There is a real Peak Oil (and soon also gas, uran (ium), copper, Phosphor and helium in 20 – 30 years maximum) near…and Michael C. Ruppert (see his daily Peak Oil Blog) decribed it in “Crossing the Rubicon – the decline of the American empire at the end of the age of oil”

  • #3 The Federal Reserve made $16.1 trillion in secret loans to their friends during the last financial crisis.

    #2 The Federal Reserve is a perpetual debt machine. Today, the U.S. national debt is more than 4700 times larger than it was when the Federal Reserve was created back in 1913.

    #1 According to a new CNN/ORC International Poll, 27 percent of all Americans have never even heard of Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke.

    Michael C. Rupperts daily Peak Oil Blog

    Michael C. Ruppert “Crossing the Rubicon – the decline of the American
    empire at the end of the age of oil”

    • robert108

      instead of obsessing about the Fed, turn your attention to the Sherman Anti-Trust Act of 1890; that’s the origin point of today’s problems with govt intrusion into business.

  • @EyesWideOpen :

    There is indeed a solution for the worlds problems…get rid of the FED or Federal Reserve System and the private banks behind it!

    J.M. Keynes about Silvio Gesell

    Silvio Gesell’s Theory and Accelerated Money Experiments

    by Jérôme Blanc

    Keywords : money – employment – Alternative currency – economic history and theories

    Language : English

    Silvio Gesell (1862-1930) proposed a system of stamped money in order to accelerate monetary circulation and to free money from interest. This was part of a global socialist system intended to free economy from rent and interest. In the 1930s, Irving Fisher, who proposed the system to President Roosevelt, and John Maynard Keynes rendered homage to Gesell’s monetary proposals in the context of the economic depression. Among the experiments that took place, several were based on his ideas, notably in the Austrian town of Wörgl and in the United States. These experiments were always local and never lasted more than a few months. This article shows that trust is the main issue of this kind of monetary organization; and therefore, that such experiments can only take place successfully on a small scale.

    100 Facts about the USA and China

  • David Gearheart

    International countries should create their own damn companies or jobs.. Don’t they have inventors? These USA companies left because of 30%+ corp taxes.. Is the us gov. insane? You should tax no one over 10%. We’re back to when we left Europe or England in the 1700’s…. Why Washington/Jefferson created this country in the first place. Fuck Lawyers!

    • Tarik Dean

      LMAO! US large firms pay the lowest rates the stated rate on paper is meaningless. it’s what they pay come tax time, that’s all that matters. sounds like somebody hasn’t read enough books and reports on economics and has been watching and listening to far too much right wing “political economics”…

  • Factories full of mcwage temp workers , with an upper crust of boomer permanents are not going too save america.

    Try instead of whining push a national level program to bring 3 d printers to public. Totally negating , the slave wage advantage of china.

    An empire based on happy meals and happy endings is not going “recover” in age of resource scarcity.

    Tire of china’s crap ? Do two things buy nothing new and stock up on long term staple foods. Beat them without firing a shot , a country with a billion starving , angry people will collapse for sure.

    • robert108

      Yeah, that strategy really worked well with post WW1 Germany, didn’t it? How about we stop penalizing the producers in this country and let them do what they do best, without the heavy hand of govt on their necks?

      • What producers ? Without the friendly combat boot on the middle east face. Along with cloak and dagger shenanigans. The producers in this country would not have the extreme luxury of cheap fossil fuels , petrodollar recycling and reserve currency status. The so called producers would not be so productive. So anyways good luck with getting goverment off your sack. When goverment is gone , you will be left to fend for yourself in a wasteland full of zarps , Zombie A$$ Rape Pirates )

  • Pubby

    We have forgotten the one simple principle which built this country. ” I am going to pay my employees enough so they can afford my products” – Henry Ford. “I am going to take care of you so you can take care of me” – Armand Hammer, spoken directly to ME when I worked with HIM. With a Masters and work toward my Doctorate, I am forced to work for 11.75 per hour BECAUSE HIGHER PAYING JOBS DO NOT EXIST IN MY AREA. I am regarded as an upper wage-earner. I have done things in my life that most will never be able to do, and am capable of MUCH more if I have the resources. They are economic resources. Invest in the potential of a person and that potential pays you back enormously. Where is THAT investment?

    • FLukeisAFish

      Sucked away so someone not working is treated fairly while they sit on the couch and fire up a blunt to play x-box all day.

    • FooMaster

      Apparently you chose poorly when deciding your career and educational path.

  • Just an Honest Kanuck

    The problem with the worlds economic situation. In a word “Greed”. From the bottom with Free Obama phones, self believing entitlements, unions, public servemts, CEOs, to politicians. It’s always the same motivator “Greed”.

  • Chuck23250

    I think that the deindustrialization of America plays into the long range plan that the Progressive Liberals have for “Amerika”. Reduce the wages of medium and high wage earners through redistribution, raise the income of low and no wage earners through redistribution. The long term plan results in a three class society. The low to medium level wage earners who are the labor force, then the government regulators and enforcers to force government on to the labor force to keep them in line, then the upper class who will be the President and his administration, actually the upper class will be split into the royalty which will be the President, his mentors and closest advisers. Saul Alinsky would be proud of his protege

  • Karlo1956

    You are right and the free trade agreements have done significant damage in the US job picture and the current president and congress are still driving us into the ground further by maintaining the same destructive policies.

  • Shibfilet

    We do what Germany did: smart and significant investing in high-end manufacturing. The education requirements may be higher than typical manufacturing jobs, but the wages do compensate for the comparative advantage that we’ve ilost n the industry since the 1970’s.

  • Servando Gonzalez

    The most important fact about the deindustrialization of America is missing: It is not the product of chance or happenstance but of a carefully designed plan. See all the facts in my just appeared book I Dare Call It Treason: The Council on Foreign Relations and the Betrayal America.

    Servando Gonzalez

  • It really doesn’t matter. The extreme polarization of the political scene will result in the USA disintegrating into several mutually antagonistic countries within 50 years.

  • That Guy

    Almost three years after this article was written I’m leaving my two cents. Is this how people really view the world? Cynically and dismally like this? My mind is far from blown at these statistics. We’re not “deindustrializing” we are evolving with the globalized economy. Jobs will be lost to trade deficits, and out sourcing but will eventually be replaced; the “theory of economic creative destruction” is a cruel one, however, necessary; new jobs will be created out of the ashes. The United States still reigns supreme in manufacturing and has ranked only 3rd in oil production; a year after his article was written we exported MORE oil than we IMPORTED. This is all an alarmist folly. This article doesn’t mention that over the last 5 years our trade deficit has nearly been closed; the US ranks 1 in almost EVERY single ISIC division of manufacturing, excluding textiles and wearing apparel; the US represents ONE FIFTH of the entire global manufacturing output; The BSA Software Alliance ranks the US in technology/IT competitiveness as unparalleled. Our economy isn’t the dumps, it embroiled in a downturn; a cyclical process that will have, and has already shown signs of, an economic upturn.

  • Swagato Barman Roy

    Americans have to accept the global wage arbitrage, the competition from third world and then cheaper goods as well. As simple as that. Calling China an oppressor and blaming it all on Chinese is just evading the responsibility. Bring back labor unions, more regulations if you like, more jobs will leave US. So far it was only the jobs and factories that were leaving while the company CEOs and directors sat in their comfy offices in New York or LA, now people have started leaving, believe me or not. Read about Eduardo Sverin and others. The US government is charging a fee of 500$ on the form to denounce your citizenship, which was free for a few years ago. Why? It’s all about market-they are charging because so many people are ready to pay for it. The implications-think for yourself.



  • rally2xs

    There’s a silver bullet that will turn this all around, and make the USA the manufacturing center of the world again. It is the Fair Tax. That is because the Fair Tax gets rid of the income taxes, and the income taxes are what is screwing up the manufacturing ability of the USA. The Fair Tax, couple with SANE, RATIONAL regulations for pollution and worker protection and so forth, would have all the world’s manufacturers building factories here. We would have full employment in America in about 2 years after passage of the Fair Tax, and the USA’s GDP would increase about 10.5% in the 1st year.

    The biggest obstacle to this is the politicians, who love the income tax because it is their instrument of corruption, that they use to reward friends with tax breaks and target enemies. The IRS and the income taxes need to go away for many reasons, but the restoration of prosperity is the biggest one.

  • Rusty Shackelford

    Yeah, so, hows that economic collapse working out for you?

  • Timbo

    the biggest US export is machinery at $121bn, waste paper stands at $1.8bn as of April 2015

  • Colt Robbins

    Yes the United States deindustrialized and many jobs were lost. However, the United States is now a service based economy, which means that the GDP is much higher than any NIC or other country with a secondary based economy. Also, we developed more from this economic change. If we didn’t deindustrialize, then our country would be spending a gigantic amount of money compared to what we could be doing off shoring. Countries like China have also developed from this change. Overall, the economics of the United States have improved.

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