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20 Things You Will Need To Survive When The Economy Collapses And The Next Great Depression Begins

Today, millions of Americans say that they believe that the United States is on the verge of a major economic collapse and will soon be entering another Great Depression.  But only a small percentage of those same people are prepared for that to happen.  The sad truth is that the vast majority of Americans would last little more than a month on what they have stored up in their homes.  Most of us are so used to running out to the supermarket or to Wal-Mart for whatever we need that we never even stop to consider what would happen if suddenly we were not able to do that.  Already the U.S. economy is starting to stumble about like a drunken frat boy.  All it would take for the entire U.S. to resemble New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina would be for a major war, a terror attack, a deadly pandemic or a massive natural disaster to strike at just the right time and push the teetering U.S. economy over the edge.  So just how would you survive if you suddenly could not rely on the huge international corporate giants to feed, clothe and supply you and your family?  Do you have a plan?

Unless you already live in a cave or you are a complete and total mindless follower of the establishment media, you should be able to see very clearly that our society is more vulnerable now than it ever has been.  This year there have been an unprecedented number of large earthquakes around the world and volcanoes all over the globe are awakening.  You can just take a look at what has happened in Haiti and in Iceland to see how devastating a natural disaster can be.  Not only that, but we have a world that is full of lunatics in positions of power, and if one of them decides to set off a nuclear, chemical or biological weapon in a major city it could paralyze an entire region.  War could erupt in the Middle East at literally any moment, and if it does the price of oil will double or triple (at least) and there is the possibility that much of the entire world could be drawn into the conflict.  Scientists tell us that a massive high-altitude EMP (electromagnetic pulse) blast could send large portions of the United States back to the stone age in an instant.  In addition, there is the constant threat that the outbreak of a major viral pandemic (such as what happened with the 1918 Spanish Flu) could kill tens of millions of people around the globe and paralyze the economies of the world. 

But even without all of that, the truth is that the U.S. economy is going to collapse.  So just think of what will happen if one (or more) of those things does happen on top of all the economic problems that we are having.

Are you prepared?  

The following is a list of 20 things you and your family will need to survive when the economy totally collapses and the next Great Depression begins….

#1) Storable Food

Food is going to instantly become one of the most valuable commodities in existence in the event of an economic collapse.  If you do not have food you are not going to survive.  Most American families could not last much longer than a month on what they have in their house right now.  So what about you?  If disaster struck right now, how long could you survive on what you have?  The truth is that we all need to start storing up food.  If you and your family run out of food, you will suddenly find yourselves competing with the hordes of hungry people who are looting the stores and roaming the streets looking for something to eat.

Of course you can grow your own food, but that is going to take time.  So you need to have enough food stored up until the food that you plant has time to grow.  But if you have not stored up any seeds you might as well forget it.  When the economy totally collapses, the remaining seeds will disappear very quickly.  So if you think that you are going to need seeds, now is the time to get them.

#2) Clean Water

Most people can survive for a number of weeks without food, but without water you will die in just a few days.  So where would you get water if the water suddenly stopped flowing out of your taps?  Do you have a plan?  Is there an abundant supply of clean water near your home? Would you be able to boil water if you need to?

Besides storing water and figuring out how you are going to gather water if society breaks down, another thing to consider is water purification tablets.  The water you are able to gather during a time of crisis may not be suitable for drinking.  So you may find that water purification tablets come in very, very handy.

#3) Shelter

You can’t sleep on the streets, can you?  Well, some people will be able to get by living on the streets, but the vast majority of us will need some form of shelter to survive for long.  So what would you do if you and your family lost your home or suddenly were forced from your home?  Where would you go? 

The best thing to do is to come up with several plans.  Do you have relatives that you can bunk with in case of emergency?  Do you own a tent and sleeping bags if you had to rough it?  If one day everything hits the fan and you and your family have to “bug out” somewhere, where would that be?  You need to have a plan.

#4) Warm Clothing

If you plan to survive for long in a nightmare economic situation, you are probably going to need some warm, functional clothing.  If you live in a cold climate, this is going to mean storing up plenty of blankets and cold weather clothes.  If you live in an area where it rains a lot, you will need to be sure to store up some rain gear.  If you think you may have to survive outdoors in an emergency situation, make sure that you and your family have something warm to put on your heads.  Someday after the economy has collapsed and people are scrambling to survive, a lot of folks are going to end up freezing to death.  In fact, in the coldest areas it is actually possible to freeze to death in your own home.  Don’t let that happen to you.

#5) An Axe

Staying along the theme of staying warm, you may want to consider investing in a good axe.  In the event of a major emergency, gathering firewood will be a priority.  Without a good tool to cut the wood with that will be much more difficult.

#6) Lighters Or Matches

You will also want something to start a fire with.  If you can start a fire, you can cook food, you can boil water and you can stay warm.  So in a true emergency situation, how do you plan to start a fire?  By rubbing sticks together?  Now is the time to put away a supply of lighters or matches so that you will be prepared when you really need them.

In addition, you may want to consider storing up a good supply of candles.  Candles come in quite handy whenever the electricity goes out, and in the event of a long-term economic nightmare we will all see why our forefathers relied on candles so much.

#7) Hiking Boots Or Comfortable Shoes

When you ask most people to list things necessary for survival, this is not the first or the second thing that comes to mind.  But having hiking boots or very comfortable and functional shoes will be absolutely critical.  You may very well find yourself in a situation where you and your family must walk everywhere you want to go.  So how far do you think you will get in high heels?  You will want footwear that you would feel comfortable walking in for hours if necessary.  You will also want footwear that will last a long time, because when the economy truly collapses you may not be able to run out to the shoe store and get what you need at that point. 

#8) A Flashlight And/Or Lantern

When the power goes off in your home, what is the first thing that you grab?  Just think about it.  A flashlight or a lantern of course.  In a major emergency, a flashlight or a lantern is going to be a necessity – especially if you need to go anywhere at night. 

Solar powered or “crank style” flashlights or lanterns will probably be best during a long-term emergency.  If you have battery-powered units you will want to begin storing up lots and lots of batteries.   

#9) A Radio

If a major crisis does hit the United States, what will you and your family want?  Among other things, you will all want to know what in the world is going on.  A radio can be an invaluable tool for keeping up with the news. 

Once again, solar powered or “crank style” radios will probably work best for the long term.  A battery-powered until would work as well – but only for as long as your batteries are able to last.

#10) Communication Equipment

When things really hit the fan you are going to want to communicate with your family and friends.  You will also want to be able to contact an ambulance or law enforcement if necessary.  Having an emergency cell phone is great, but it may or may not work during a time of crisis.  The Internet also may or may not be available.  Be sure to have a plan (whether it be high-tech or low-tech) for staying in communication with others during a major emergency.

#11) A Swiss Army Knife

If you have ever owned a Swiss Army knife you probably already know how incredibly handy they can be.  It can be a very valuable and versatile tool.  In a true survival situation, a Swiss Army knife can literally do dozens of different things for you.  Make sure that you have at least one stored up for emergencies.

#12) Personal Hygiene Items 

While these may not be absolute “essentials”, the truth is that life will get very unpleasant very quickly without them.  For example, what would you do without toilet paper?  Just think about it.  Imagine that you just finished your last roll of toilet paper and now you can’t get any more.  What would you do? 

The truth is that soap, toothbrushes, toothpaste, shampoo, toilet paper and other hygiene products are things that we completely take for granted in society today.  So what would happen if we could not go out and buy them any longer?

#13) A First Aid Kit And Other Medical Supplies

One  a more serious note, you may not be able to access a hospital or a doctor during a major crisis.  In your survival supplies, be absolutely certain that you have a good first aid kit and any other medical supplies that you think you may need.

#14) Extra Gasoline

There may come a day when gasoline is rationed or is simply not available at all.  If that happens, how will you get around?  Be certain to have some extra gasoline stored away just in case you find yourself really needing to get somewhere someday.

#15) A Sewing Kit

If you were not able to run out and buy new clothes for you and your family, what would you do?  Well, you would want to repair the clothes that you have and make them last as long as possible.  Without a good sewing kit that will be very difficult to do.

#16) Self-Defense Equipment

Whether it is pepper spray to fend off wild animals or something more “robust” to fend off wild humans, millions of Americans will one day be thankful that they have something to defend themselves with.

#17) A Compass

In the event of a major emergency, you and your family may find yourselves having to be on the move.  If you are in a wilderness area, it will be very hard to tell what direction you are heading without a compass.  It is always a good idea to have at least one compass stored up. 

#18) A Hiking Backpack

If you and your family suddenly have to “bug out”, what will you carry all of your survival supplies in?  Having a good hiking backpack or “survival bag” for everyone in your family is extremely important.  If something happened in the city where you live and you suddenly had to “go”, what would you put your most important stuff in?  How would you carry it all if you had to travel by foot?  These are very important things to think about. 

#19) A Community

During a long-term crisis, it is those who are willing to work together that will have the best chance of making it.  Whether it is your family, your friends, a church or a local group of people that you know, make sure that you have some people that you can rely on and work together with in the event that everything hits the fan.  Loners are going to have a really hard time of surviving for long.

#20) A Backup Plan

Lastly, it is always, always, always important to have a backup plan for everything.

If someone comes in and steals all the food that you have stored up, what are you going to do?

If travel is restricted and your can’t get to your “bug out” location immediately do you have a Plan B?

If you have built your house into an impregnable survival fortress but circumstances force you to leave do you have an alternate plan?

The truth is that crisis situations rarely unfold just as we envision.  It is important to be flexible and to be ready with backup plans when disaster strikes. 

You don’t want to end up like the folks in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.  You don’t want to have to rely on the government to take care of you if something really bad happens. 

Right now the U.S. strategic grain reserve contains only enough wheat to make half a loaf of bread for each of the approximately 300 million people in the United States.

How long do you think that is going to last?

Now is the time to get ready.

Now is the time to prepare.

The United States economy is going to collapse and incredibly hard times are coming.

Will you be able to survive when it happens?

  • simon

    Why you need radio when there will no electricity to broadcast and everyone will eventually die?

  • MrPotato

    I’m not sure I agree with community, look at “Children of Men”, that horde of homeless people setting up that burning-car trap will be your community, how do you feed that many people? not easy, there will be huge arguments over food/water.

    I think the article would be more useful if it’s about pro’s and con’s, in this case there are definitely some pro’s of being a loner.

    If you can assemble a good small team however is ofcourse much better than being completely alone, however that’s easier said than done, and most likely your team is going to be of lazy people who’s unprepared (debt, out of shape, no equiptment, no survival skills).

  • http://ceeuropeaninfo.blogspot.com/ Tony W

    How does the economic collapse lead to a complete halt to all economic activity? More people may be poorer, but they will still have some money to motivate others to produce for a market. The natural disaster scenario seems more plausible for this type of warning. More and more foreclosures don’t. This posting is a bit much for me, seems just some much scaremongering.

  • http://www.survivormall.com Donna

    Simon, you can use a hand crank radio that can pick up the NOAA emergency channel, citizen band radios that will work off cells etc. Check it out at SurvivorMall.com

  • Dana

    How about firearms and plenty of ammo? What happens when the looting hordes arrive on your doorstep and you don’t have the means to defend yourself and your family?

  • Matt

    Military will eventually come in and set up most basic needs – food, shelter, medical. You just need enough to hold you over until then.

  • Milton

    Actually, I will start fires with two sticks. What will you do when you run out of matches?

  • Spencer

    ok – you’ve officially fallen off the deep end. This blog went from legitimate economic concerns to grand fear mongering. This is the same as Y2K all over again. I have friends who still have bunkers and thousands of dollars of expired canned food and you’re suggesting they go do it again…..

  • http://yes butch

    I have no food, water, clothing or anything else for an emergency other than 7 rifles, 3 pistols and boxes of ammo.

    I’ll just take what I want from all you responsible folks who plan ahead. Thanks in advance. Oh and I don’t like rice. Beans are better and have more protein.

    • El’Choppahead

      idiot,. don’t think WE DON’T have guns too?,.. try and take it while your starving and weak

      what a moronic comment!

    • El’Choppahead

      in fact,.. retards like you are the reason the countries circling the drain?

      to even say that in a half assed joking manor puts you on the endangered list as first to eradicate so good people can live,. Hitler had the right idea, just targeted the wrong people, it’s dip-shits like you that should have been gassed

      ass-hats like you piss me off, DO SOMETHING RIGHT AND APOLOGIZE FOR THAT COMMENT

  • diogene

    People that are accusing the author of this article of fear mongering, your are doing that, just because of frustration. Supposedly, that will not happen (God forbid), BUT IF HAPPENS, then what? Are you prepared, or you will explain to your family that collapse was mathematically impossible, or you will wait for someone to help you? You will get the same kind of support, the people from New Orleans, or Haiti got.

    You are pure morons and sheeple and behaving like ostrich, shoveling your head in sand and pretend nothing is happen. Ok, let’s say you will die quietly, because of lack of food and especially of water, accepting the fate that you were utterly stupid, but you, not, then you will suddenly discover that you are entitled to the food of those prepared, because your kids are not going to die of starvation! Yes, you will behave like this, you know, deep down, that you will do so; the preppers are knowing this and wait you “prepared”, be sure on that.

    In case nothing happens, that’s it, you have some stuff that anyway you will need and consume, so what the fuss? But you are like same fools from Noah times, or those in the coming of the 1929 crisis, that they were laughing of those that were alert and prepared. Not laugh so more, after the flood came, or the ’29 crisis. So will you!

  • SgtFear85

    If you want to know what it may very well look like when our own economy collapses, go to http://www.ferfal.blogspot.com Ferfal survived the Argentine economic collapse and has some very good insights on how to survive until things return to some sense of normalcy.

  • http://www.suburban-self-reliance.com Jerry

    For Butch:

    I’ve been a practicing Survivalist for several years, and also consult on the subject, in preparation for IDIOTS like you. Particularly after hearing some of my “fellow” Army Officers state that they would do the same as you.

    Well, guess what? I have just a few firearms, with CASES of ammo, as well as being debt free, stocked with food, fuel, and fertile land. This also includes barbed and concertina wire, tripwired devices,etc.

  • Chops

    Hey Butch,

    You’re the type of people that we “preppers” are preparing for. I’ll just add your “7 rifles, 3 pistols and boxes of ammo” to my arsenal.
    Thanks in advance.

  • Dianna

    Hey Butch.
    Seems as though
    you have a few fans. Has it ever occurred to you to be a productive member of your community. Those of us “preparers” have organized plans and communities we will protect from the lone wolf like yourself.I would plan on taking your arms to a group of people you trust and bringing something to the table other than a rouge attitude.You might eat a little longer. :)

  • http://yes butch

    Fools.

    You’ll never see or hear me coming.

    Your only hope is to have nothing of value to me or to be far far away.

  • /newsworks.webs.com/index.htm Smuggler

    This is the second article I’ve run across tonight on ” Preparedness, ” I was happy to note that this one mentioned “Community.” I was also a bit surprised that neither mention just how much weight this survival gear is going to add up to or how much space it will take up.

    As a long time hiker and back country lover I have had a bit of experience in rustic living. From Tents in the Rockies and Sierras to the bottom of the Grand Canyon and an old trapper’s cabin in Alaska I have pretty much lived in that way most of my life.

    Survival depends on a lot of things, not just how much grub you got or how many bottles of water are stashed away. If all roads are blocked your stocked RV is suddenly going to be a liability not an asset.With roads blocked by earthquake or check points the ability to travel cross country will be reduced to foot transportation, unless you plan to tote your pick-up over the mountains think lighter….

    If it all goes up the first thing you must do is realize that this is not a camping trip, you come home from a camping trip, you won’t have a home to come to if it all goes up. You are going to have to find food and water as you go and in the case of food you will most likely have to kill it and clean it. Man bites dog will have a whole new meaning.

    That is where the best survival tool will be most welcome. The nice thing about this tool is it takes up no room and it doesn’t weigh an oz. Become knowledgeable.learn about water and how to test it, find it and save it. learn how to preserve foods by drying or smoking. learn what plants in your area can be eaten or used for medicine.

    You get the idea here, the more ya know the longer you will live. One of the places I have spent some time hiking is the Idaho and Utah boarder area and parts of the old Boozeman Trail. one of the remarkable things you see on the Trail is tons of cast Iron cook stoves, nickel trimmed Parlor stoves, furniture, house hold goods, sinks etc. that litter the ground. All tossed off overloaded wagons, from about the middle part of the Trail tapering off to just a few items the farther west they got. Take to much you have to throw it away.

    A good make pro back pack, a good sleeping bag/ground pad, light tent, fire making items, [ I recommend a mag and steel striker. ]a good hand axe, a good hunting knife, a pro grade compass, [Learn how to use it.} Food, freeze dried is best very lite and can carry many days of food. Limit clothes as appropriate for the weather and how much you can carry. Water, what you can carry and treatment tablets for new sources if in doubt. Other wise boil it for ten mins.

    Things like sewing kits are nice but won’t kill ya if you don’t have one. Judge your wants balanced against your needs, in the case of candles and radios and such, they are heavy hard to secure and take up lots of room. In the case of candles I’ve had them melt all over the inside of my back pack not a fun thing.

    Keep it light and essential,you may have to relocate in a big hurry. Now, do you see why community is a good idea? You can survive one man alone, but in a group is easier, safer and more productive and more fun. Here’s hoping all your trips are camping trips and may you always come home.

  • Dennis

    If you wish to get an idea on how bad lfe could get if there were a collapse of the electrical grid & transportation (EMP) I recommend a visit to this website and also the author William Forstchen & his book One Second After.
    http://www.onesecondafter.com/
    The site contains many links that will take you to good info. The book is fiction based upon the findings of the EMP commission and the real damage EMP (or powerful solar storms) would cause.

  • Sunshine

    Fear is not good. People are fearful when they can not control and prevent things from happening. Fear causes a RE-action instead of an Action. Biblically a loaf of bread could cost a days wage in the future. Think about it. A loaf of bread could cost you $49.00 just for a loaf. (8 hours X $7.00). Better to be prepared at any given time then be fearful. There has been plenty of Flag waving/warnings going off, do you have the eyes to see and ears to hear and understand what is happening or going on? I like to think most people in general are intelligent and can do research and seek a matter out and make a wise and rational conclusion. But let’s face it, you can scream at some people and they would just look at you and continue on despite the warnings. It happens time and time again. Currently, food is going up and up in cost, and with a new VAT Tax coming that will be added to the costs of goods (a tax on everything you buy or purchase) food will go higher. Dinning out is becoming more expensive and they are adding a HC surcharge to the tab now to cover for the Health Care costs of the employees. What about Cap and Trade which is coming up. You will not be able to sell your house unless certain upgrades are made to it to bring it up to an environmental code. You could have heat for half a month during the winter if you go beyond the mandated consumption levels they want to put in place. The rest of the month you would be cold. Are you ready for this? You can be given a certain amount of water consumption and if you go beyond the standard that they have allot to you, it is shut off till the next month. What would you do with no water? These are just some possible scenarios. If you don’t believe this could happen, think again. It has happened in the past, it will happen again. You grow a garden, you keep 20% the rest is taken for consumption by others. Have the wisdom and knowledge to do research and understand what is going on in the world. A Prudent man will make preparations, a foolish man will let things go by the way side and then expect other to compensate for them.

  • charkee

    Butch will be too weak to pillage. When it comes there will be no food, those that have food all know what is coming and will be waiting for the hungry staggering Butches.

    Perhaps Mr. Butch will take up cannibalism, first his own children, then the wife and last his dog.

    When it comes it will be sudden and unexpected by the sheeple. Under such conditions pandemics will ravage vast swaths of humanity already weakend by hunger.

    There are communities that are prepared, we just don’t advertise.

  • Dano

    Sorry, I don;t buy it. You can watch the series of videos on uTube about the collapse of Argentine. The country did not roll up the sidewals and die. I have friends who went thru that event there, things were tough, no one starved to death except perhaps street bums.

  • Ilene

    @ Butch, people will never see you coming? Just remember that God Almighty is moe powerful than your guns and renegade behavior and anyone he plans to protect from you, you WILL NOT have access to.

  • RLTW!

    Invest in a good survival book (free MIL one (http://www.equipped.com/multiservice_ser_manual_1999.pdf and http://www.equipped.com/fm3-0570.htm) They are military oriented, but excellent.

    Some comments on your list, as its a start (I will not comment on the collapse, etc) This is really just the tip of the Ice cube:

    Food: If you are about to go on a long “hike” like for a couple of weeks… seriously fatten up. Talk to anyone who has done ranger school. They lose 20-45lbs in only 63days. Most fatten up just before going. If you only have one meal/ day, then eat in the morning and eat small amounts throughout the day (like a candy or cracker) and keep drinking water. Surprise salt is important, dont go low sodium in food especially if you are consuming a lot of water. On the move, Eat the most perishable first, eat based solely off the energy you are expending. If you open it consume it, or you will have unwanted pests/animals. In bear country, hang it from a high limb away from where you sleep. If you cant brush your teeth, chew gum, or chew soft twigs.

    Gerber or Leatherman is better than a Swiss knife, and BTW Butch I pack heat, so good luck and don’t let the laser sight on your forehead deter you.

    Gasoline doesnt store for very long, and know the difference between diesel and gas (I know this is basic, but some people cant tell except for what it says at the pump). And also know that Syphoning gas from new autos is impossible, so don’t try, remove it from the fuel line/filter under the car.

    Have a small tool kit/box, with basic tools.

    If you are on the move, the right Clothing is extremely important…. Get loose fitting clothing that you can easily layer, have about 3 layers or more (depending on your local climate). One layered set should be enough, but you NEED extra socks, 2-3 pair (or more) of heavy cushioned socks are ESSENTIAL if you are on the move. Change your socks every day, even if you cannot wash them. A week could turn into a month. Dont pack underwear, b/c after a week it will be gone anyway (Most infantry soldiers go without in the field) and is just extra weight. Think of going for a long hunting trip when packing this up, and remember its always colder than you think even in the summer especially when you cannot go indoors anywhere. Pack gloves and ski type hats. At a minimum, keep your feet and shoes dry. If they get wet, walk it out, & change socks more frequently. In the cold, Keep your shoes/boots next to you when you sleep to keep them warm and be ready if you need to move out quickly. Dont be unpacked, take out what you need and leave the rest packed. You may have to take off quickly. (Pack everything you want to keep dry in gallon-sized ziplocks)

    Don’t rely on a store first aid kits, buy a medium sized tool bag and get a good first aid “trauma” list(most stuff you can get at walmart). But also consider learning how to start an IV and get a few. Also, address all knicks and cuts, even the small ones. Infections can put you under, ESPECIALLY ON YOUR FEET/LEGS.

    Water: If you have bleach, you can use that to purify water. One drop per Quart. Be careful, if you use too much then you will have a bad case of buttmud.

    Fire: can be started with 2 D-cell batteries and steel wool, but invest in a magnesium stick that you can use with a knife.

    If Money is worthless, have things to bargin with & you will be better off. Consider gold coins, you can always cut off chucks to use as payment. CAUTION: To much of something valuable will make you a target, so consider things that are valuable other than Gold.

    A NON-digital watch is helpful, and can be used for navigation… plz dont ask, google it or get a survival book (which is also good) – I use the SAS survival book

    MAPS!!!!! Hello, a good map of your area where you intend on going is very helpful, especially of your immediate area (topographic) and will help you locate water. It is impossible to hand carry your water needs, know your sources along your route. Keep a good small atlas with your kit, may have to leave a contaminated area and may have to travel on the roads or beside the roads. You can easily use a good atlas to terrain navigate in lieu of a good topo map. Know the state evacuation routes, then plan an alternative b/c they will be packed.

    Set up “rally” points that everyone knows and will link up or leave messages if safe and no communications exist.

    Flashlight: invest in an efficient LED headlamp, that way you have both hands free.

    The AXE is not required: You need only a good Knife, like a K-bar…dont buy a cheap hollow survival knife (they will break), buy a regular good 5-8in blade that is heavy and durable. You can use the knife with a piece of wood or log to hammer the knife like an axe for firewood….but your call. Remember, you may have to carry it.

    If you have a friend in Spec ops or is a Ranger, Seal, etc… ask them for tips or advice… we train in this type of thing.

  • Simo

    When the NWO globalists spark WW3, then thats when you wanna take all the necassary actions. Food and water are the most important. Imagine having a smelly body and cant clean your teeth! The UK is way to small to hide in. Im doomed! lol

  • slim2none

    Matt-Military will show up to confiscate for their ‘needs’, along with wannabe predators like butch.

    Not listed but very needed will be work gloves for our soft hands.

    Be sure to have disinfectant in supplies. Infection from simple injuries will take many.

    Best of luck to all (except butch)

  • Starcade

    The problem is simple:

    There are going to be so many “Butch”s out there that “self defense” shouldn’t be #16 on the list…

    It should be #’s 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5.

    Without the means (and the willingness) to kill, you won’t make it long. If you’re in the inner city, you might not get out of the first night. If you’re in a smaller town, it depends on how long until the hordes get to you.

    He may well be a stupid Internet troll warrior, but the fact is that you have to be ready for people who are all but ready to kill you and take your stash — and that THAT is their only plan.

    Remember: Most people on the Internet no longer value the basic human lives of anyone else. Keep that in mind.

  • Heretic

    @Butch:
    The simple truth is that 10 guns will only do you good if you have 10 seperate fingers to squeeze the triggers. My neighbors (think rural rednecks)and I have more guns, cases of ammo, and more than enough fingers to squeeze that many triggers.
    Dumbass, you might want to re-think your “survival” plans because that is simply, in any real survivalists book, an “all else fails” idea.

  • Greybeard

    Butches approach should be a very real concern. Those who have no supplies may be regarded as “sheeple” by those that have prepared for hard times.

    Make no mistake, just because they haven’t prepared doesn’t mean they are stupid. It just means they will be more desperate. Humans are VERY dangerous animals. Desperate humans are even more dangerous and ruthless.

    The “lone wolf” types like Butch won’t really be much of a threat to a community. But when his type form a group, they can be a deadly threat. If you don’t think that is a real possibility, just check out any one of the “Gangland” episodes on the History channel.

    If you are willing to seriously consider what could happen in the next 18 months, read SgtFear85’s post and follow the link to Ferfal’s experiences in Argentina.

    Forget the “Mad Max” fantasies. Humans are social animals, and social groups will establish themselves on different levels. Subdivisions, small towns, or just local groups of like minded individuals.

    Be prepared to contribute something of value. Hard work, knowledge, or skills not dependent on electricity. The dependent class that can not, or will not, work will not have a place in hard times. There will no longer be the excesses in society to provide for the sloth of those who believe that they have a “right” to share in the fruits of others labors.

    The article may be a scare piece, and many remember that the “Y2K” issue had no impact.

    But, are you really willing to bet the lives of your loved ones on the capability of our government to maintain the status quo?

    Water, shelter, food, security. Remember how well the government provided during Hurricane Katrina.

    I believe that a certain amount of self reliance is prudent. A short visit to the FEMA website will give you their projected time lines for providing assistance. It will also provide information to help you sustain yourself and your family until help can arrive. And if you think their projections of when they will be able to provide ANY essentials is optimistic, increase your personal preparations.

    It’s your decision.

  • Muzhik

    @Spencer, you wrote:

    I have friends who still have bunkers and thousands of dollars of expired canned food…

    Well, there’s your problem right there! You don’t just buy it, stash it, and then forget it (until it’s needed). You need to go through regularly and recycle it. If the “Best by” dates on the cans are less than a year old, then they can still donate those cans to a shelter. Keep buying fresh to replace what is not-so-fresh and you’re giving away. It doesn’t have to be in one swell foop. Just a few extra cans a week (esp. when things are on sale) can keep you stocked up without fear of having it go bad.

  • Margo

    Yes, it sounds like fearmongering… but what if he’s right?

  • CGDoc

    Move # 2 to # 1.
    With all the sources for MRE’s, freeze-dried and canned food, eating shouldn’t be a problem. You can survive weeks without food.

    The real issue will be water because you will only last days without it. Then there is the storage issue for water.

  • jeff

    #21…Binoculars

  • Peace

    Have enough for forty days once the warning comes. Mej.com After that God will provide. History will repeat itself. (as in the Bible) God will save us once again. When you vote for a president that has a voting record of infantcide (to throw a baby in the garbage) this is the result. God want us on our knees to say we are sorry or he will put us on them. Watch this video that was on this holy site before the election and you will understand. Pray, Don’t worry and God will provide!

    Part1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCC8SGfCGd8&feature=channel

    Part 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkDVzLAdtZE&feature=channel_page

    Part 3

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACm5BRK0OiA&feature=channel

  • carmen

    we should be prepare for emergencies but people are going over board with this get the basics, and above all trust that God will get you thru this,i will put my trust in the Lord.if he can take care of the sparrow and the lilies of the field , He can surely take care of me.

  • Declan McRoy

    It is exactly because so many of you can not even entertain the idea of such a collapse, that it will happen.

    There have never been more deluded and brainwashed generations in the history of humanity, than the ones currently living…

    I used to try and make people like Tony W, Simon and Spencer understand how wrong they are and how fragile our situation is but it was like trying to teach trigonometry to my dog.

    Then one day, I realized that this is a self solving problem. These fools will perish in the first days or weeks of the new dark age that is coming and while that is itself sad, in the grand scheme of things the gene pool will be cleansed of morons and refreshed with smart, hard working, achieving individuals once again.

    So to those of you who want to argue with the author and with the very notion that we are at the edge of one of the darkest periods in history, I have this to say:

    Yeah, whatever!

  • Roger R.

    I think Butch will be cannibalized by his own family. I hope they stock up on alka seltzer.

  • http://www.truthmovementamerica.com/ Pat Anjali

    So “20th Century” mindset. Boring, Boring, Boring. Did you notice no “author” to the article? Besides, who is capable of surviving? That takes clarity, purpose and fortitude. Who has that in America? This country is so dumbed down, being preoccupied with food (one out of two are overweight and 1 out of 3 is Fat, Fat, FAT!) and entertainment (keep my brain continually submerged in the water; wash, wash, WASH!), while “denial” runs rampant like an infectious dis-ease…any chance of hope when a swiss army knife is in the hand of imbecile operator? Is that why a first aid kit is on the list?

    Besides, free energy, once released (i.e. shared), will change everything, overnight. LOL

    PS. A top of the line, quality Down Sleeping bag is a must! ;-0

  • godsgunner

    You forgot the most important thing of all, the necessary skills to use all of the above equipment.

  • http://www.truthmovementamerica.com/ Pat Anjali

    I forgot to mention. Butch is one of the “obese” types. Can you see him carrying 7 rifles, 3 pistols and all the rest of that ammo draped around his flabby neck, a la Arnold? He’s a just a puppy dog. A chubby mommy’s boy who lives in his basement and plays video game between refrigerator runs. Don’t mind him. Besides, wtshtf he’ll be sitting on the sidewalk, sniveling, and gnashing the last of his rotten teeth. Sorry for the regression, and the not so pretty picture of our make believe nasty brute.

  • Armed Progressive

    Yup, I have to say it too, Butch — I’m ready for you. I’m a hardcore progressive, I believe in green energy such as wind power, I support Obama, etc., etc., etc. — but I do think we’re heading to hell in a handbasket and I’ve prepared. I can grow most of my own food, I can heat my house and prepare my food with my woodstove and my many acres of forest, I have easy access to my own water source, I’ve got over 100 pounds of beans stored and ready, and I just bought a 12-gauge pump-action shotgun and lots and lots of ammo to protect it all.

    Steve

  • Steve

    0_o
    Or I could just marry me a Mormon wife… o_0

  • 4Blu

    Norway seems to have this doomsday mentality. They squirrel away money like there’s no tomorrow, (literally!) and have you seen that seed vault?

  • http://none jrsmac

    Do you really want to know what is going to happen to America?

    Do you “Really want to Know,” what is coming??????
    Really???????????????????????
    If nothing else go to this website and read the visions.
    http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.org/?page=dreamsvisions#America

    Millions killed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Please find out for yourself what is coming to America
    Amos 3:7 Surely the Sovereign LORD does nothing
    without revealing his plan
    to his servants the prophets.
    God reveals His Plans to His People who truly follow Him.
    God led me to these visions other Christians have had from God, about America’s future.
    On May 1, there will be a National Day of Prayer and Repentance at the Lincoln Memorial for our Nation.
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?f…..eId=137005
    2 Chronicles 7:14
    if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

    If God does not intervene and help our Nation turn back to Him, “WE ARE DONE!!!!!!!!”

    Except for those who are really seeking God’s leading and guidance, all this will suddenly come upon our whole nation of unaware people who think everything is OK.
    Here are many visions of America’s Destruction.
    PLEASE READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    http://www.unleavenedbreadmini…..ns#America

    Also many people say America is not in the Bible, and I used to think the same thing. That is not True!!!!!!!!!!!!
    America is described in Revelation 18, as Babylon the Great.
    Revelation 18: 9-10 9″When the kings of the earth who committed adultery with her and shared her luxury see the smoke of her burning, they will weep and mourn over her. 10Terrified at her torment, they will stand far off and cry:
    ” ‘Woe! Woe, O great city,
    O Babylon, city of power!
    In one hour your doom has come!’

    In one hour? Sounds like nuclear war.
    There are visions of America being destroyed by Russian submarines right off our own coasts with nuclear missles.
    Several different people have had this vision, A.A. Allen, Dimitru Duduman, and others

    This below is a very, very long read, showing that America is Babylon the Great.
    http://www.theforbiddenknowled…..abylon.htm
    I hope you will post this and let the wise take heed, for the foolish will scoff at me, and any who try to warn them!
    If we don’t return to God, “IT’S OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!”
    God Bless any who will heed this and pray and repent for our nation!

    God bless!

  • http://none jrsmac

    For some reason only the 1st URL link worked here.

    On May 1, there will be a National Day of Prayer and Repentance at the Lincoln Memorial for our Nation.
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=137005

    Here are many visions of America’s Destruction.
    PLEASE READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.org/?page=dreamsvisions#America

    This below is a very, very long read, showing that America is Babylon the Great.
    http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/america_babylon.htm

    God Bless!

  • http://none jrsmac

    On the National Day of Prayer, I did not find any coverage of it at all on TV.
    SAD!

  • Bearmaster

    Those of us who are preparing for what now seems to be at our door will be ready. Not only preparing with water, food, fuel, matches, seasonal clothing and whatever else is needed, we will be the few who do survive and will remember the rest of you who did not ‘believe’.

    There is no shame in getting ready for any event, especially when it comes on suddenly. Those caught by surprise are the ones who will suffer the most. If you think because you have guns and ammo that you will come and take away what you feel you need and deserve, how?

    Without water after two days you will be delirious to the point you can’t think straight. After five days of beans and bacon bits you’ll wish you had stocked up on toilet paper. When you come staggering up with gun in hand, do you really think you’ll be able to pull off this ‘robbery’ and take what you can, how?

    Will you have a shopping cart or a little red wagon? Maybe the back of your pickup would work but where will you get the gas? How can you carry anything with guns in hand, don’t you think there will be others waiting who will then take advantage of you?

    Those who think the ‘community’ idea won’t work are those who can’t get along with or won’t trust other people. How can you stay awake and alert for 24/7, you, the wife and kids against what odds? Think about it, trusting family, neighbors and friends in a small group will be the only way to get through this unless they bomb us into eternity.

    A small group can provide many things, sharing in the expense of preparing and putting things away in the best, safest location you can find. Those living in a city, large town or even in a development, you need to have a plan of escape to quickly get to a safer location.

    And finally, those who think God will take care of them. Unless you are Jewish living in Israel you will be out of luck. The Scripture teaches us to prepare for many things in life, this is no exception. Unlike Y2K which was a possible man-made problem, this is Prophesy and laid out in Scripture to let us know, get ready. At the pace things are moving along, better get prepared now.

  • Michael

    This discussion saddens me both as a Catholic and as an American. As a Catholic because we know Catholics realize that we are community. In a great disaster we are not loners, or alone, we are still community. We may think about disasters but our plans need to be based on community. How do we handle the panic and despair that will come after a tremendous disaster? What should we do as people prepared to get the community back and functioning, even if it is at a reduced level? What will we need to get us ALL through this? As Americans we have a rich Christian cultural heritage that reacted to disasters with a “can-do” attitude. Each person thought about the other and thus we acted in each others best interest. There is a problem and we will solve it as Americans or die trying. We must prepare but we must think about how we can best help each other. I can see from the posts that there are a lot people with a lot of talent. I would say let us put that talent together to prepare for helping each other. If more people do this then we will be thinking and acting like God wants us to and like our countries fore fathers acted.

  • mekrob

    i don’t know about you guys but im getting as far away from the cities i can. Take what I don’t already have and go. In my opinion after the collapse the situation in the cities is going to degenerate in the the biggest gang ruling. To really survive we would need to do what our fore fathers did and thats to live off the land. Lets face it the majority of people in this country are dependant on the “machine” and when the machine breakdown tthen they will also breakdown. Let just hope all the idiots kill themselves off.

  • Cleber

    Hi,
    I don’t think it will be that simple.
    There is a main thing that is not talked that so important. The Obama kind administration, that has some similar in some other countries, has a huge consequence
    It appears to bring us a civil war. The Obama administration put a lot of money into the hands of the very rich people and left the poor people alone. This kind of segregation used to be the cause of some civil wars.
    In the begining of a civil war it’s not clear who is your enemy. But you must be prepared to fight. It’s not important to have food, water, clothes and a shelter if there are famine poor people around you. You will need to defend your personal things too. Be prepared!

  • gb

    Well said, Michael.
    If “armed progressive” wants to be really armed, he needs to read Lk 12:13-20

  • Jean

    In the short run, skill and cunning will keep you alive; in the long run…only God will save you. You might as well turn to Him now and save yourself a lot of unnecessary suffering while you try to work it out without Him. God respects free will, but rewards the faithful with daily miracles. Remember, the Israelites ate manna in the desert for 40 years; water came miraculously from a rock. Jesus multiplied the loaves and fishes. There is a reason the stories of these miracles survived and are so well known to the Christian world. Because in His great love for humanity, God wants us to know what He will do for us when all our idols fall.

    • Victor

      Reading this list of comments, it’s frankly depressing to learn how many Americans are still following ol’ Santa-for-grownups in 2012. Get a grip folks. Human actions got us to this economic point and only human actions will determine the future from this point forward.

      I’d almost *wish* for an overall civilization reset if I thought it would bring an end to religion with it. Unfortunately, history shows us that dark times are when religions prosper.

  • Lisa

    Why don’t you ALL pull together and make plans with the local churches / or clubs you belong to. Even if you get a small percentage to store a little extra food & water, that will help overall. Just talking to your neighbors about being prepared may help. No one should depend on the Gov’t to help. I think most families in the US (at least conservatives) have guns/ammo and some food stored – with the exception of those who depend on the Gov’t for handouts.

  • David

    No one is taling about this but it is coming so prepare. http://tinyurl.com/2bpvu3q or Google “The Imminent Crash of the Oil Supply”.

    PS: don’t underestimate Butch. He’s probably trained military & a vetran of one of our colonial wars who’s killed his fair share.

  • Mark Stephen

    don’t forget to turn to God and pray.

  • sharonsj

    Trust in God but keep your powder dry….

    You need to take responsibility for your own survival. I for one do not plan to go anywhere. My rural property has plenty of water, game, trees, and plants. I already have 17 out of 20 on that list. I don’t have an axe but I’m sure I’ve got a machete somewhere. Maybe next to the rifles and boxes of ammo….

    And since I have no need to eat my dogs, I don’t think Butch is creeping up on anybody.

  • http://www.cammather.com Cam Mather

    This is a great list, but if the collapse doesn’t happen right away you might want to look at getting existing systems in your home more independent. These are outlined well in “Thriving During Challenging Times, The Energy, Food and Financial Independence Handbook.” http://www.cammather.com/

  • http://www.thunderdrake.com/blog/ Aury (Thunderdrake)

    The ones I’m lacking on this list so far is the swiss army knife, compass, Axe self defense weapons and compass. I live in a rather suburbian place, difficult to get lost around here. Though I ought to consider getting an axe. I’m a fair jack in in blacksmithing, so I could perhaps forge or improvise one when I need to wing it.

    Of course, I also protect my purchasing power as well.

  • http://none jrsmac

    Look at what this administration has done!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7115275.ece

    May 4 2010
    Boost for disarmament talks as US reveals size of nuclear arsenal

    Hillary Clinton, the US Secretary of State, announced the declassification of one of the Pentagon’s most closely guarded secrets at the opening day of a critical international meeting on global disarmament.

    The Pentagon’s figures show that the US stockpile consists of 5,113 nuclear warheads and “several thousand” more retired warheads that await dismantling. The figures reveal an 84 per cent reduction from the historic peak of 31,225 warheads in 1967 at the height of the Cold War.

    “Beginning today, the United States will make public the number of nuclear weapons in our stockpile and the number of weapons we have dismantled since 1991,” Mrs Clinton told the UN review conference on the Non-Proliferation Treaty. “So for those who doubt that the United States will do its part on disarmament, this is our record, these are our commitments and they send a clear, unmistakable signal.”

    Follow above link for full story.
    ============================================

    The Russian spies have discovered where the nuclear warehouses are in America.

    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message217339/pg1

    The Message For America by Dumitru Duduman

    Vision from God received on: September, 1984

    Part of the Vision.
    Follow link to full vision.
    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message217339/pg1

    You must yell in a loud voice that they must put an end to their sinning. They must turn toward the Lord. The Lord never gets tired of forgiving. They must draw close to the Lord, and live a clean life. If they have sinned until now, they must put an end to it, and start a new life as the Bible tells them to live.”

    I said, “How will America burn?” America is the most powerful country in this world. Why did you bring us here to burn? Why didn’t you at least let us die where ALL the Dudumans have died?”

    He said, “Remember this, Dumitru. The Russian spies have discovered where the nuclear warehouses are in America. When the Americans will think that it is peace and safety – from the middle of the country, some of the people will start fighting against the government. The government will be busy with internal problems. Then from the ocean, from Cuba, Nicaragua, Mexico,,..” (He told me two other countries, but I didn’t remember what they were.) “…they will bomb the nuclear warehouses. When they explode, America will burn!”

  • http://none jrsmac

    This one of the many visions of Dimitri is about half way down this page at this link
    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message217339/pg1.

    AMERICA REPENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Victor

      Please take your meds. Seriously. It might help.

  • steve

    A great book to get you started is “Surviving the economic collapse” by Agurrre

  • HvensFury

    I would truly like everyone to be able to come back to me and say I was crazy, but my fear is that im accurate when I say that I believe martial law is eminent within the next 7 months. For those who aren’t aware, our congress and pres. are NOT who controls our Gov. It is the Elite, the International Bankers who have established themselves as the FED. Power is their only goal, at any price and they have everything to loose with this next election if they don’t stop it, and martial law is that estoppel. If they are not removed very very soon, you will wish You sold everything of value and filled ever space in your home with your families needs. We have been warned!God protect us

    • the future

      7 months are up. please try again.

      • Victor

        Your last name isn’t Camping by any chance, is it? :)

  • http://none jrsmac

    Repeating myself:
    Here are many visions of America’s Destruction.
    http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.org/?page=dreamsvisions#America

    Also many people say America is not in the Bible, and I used to think the same thing. That is not True!!!!!!!!!!!!
    America is described in Revelation 18, as Babylon the Great.
    Revelation 18: 9-10 9″When the kings of the earth who committed adultery with her and shared her luxury see the smoke of her burning, they will weep and mourn over her. 10Terrified at her torment, they will stand far off and cry:
    ” ‘Woe! Woe, O great city,
    O Babylon, city of power!
    In one hour your doom has come!’

    In one hour? How do you destroy a nation like America in one hour?
    Coast to Coast, Nuclear Attack!!!!
    There are visions of America being destroyed by Russian submarines right off our own coasts with nuclear missles.
    Several different people have had this vision, A.A. Allen, Dimitru Duduman, and others

    I think you’re right!
    They have nothing to gain and everything to lose by having an election in November!
    You hear people on TV say all the time, “Wait until November!”
    I don’t think it’s going to happen.
    Checking out these visions,
    I am not exactly sure in which order things are going to happen.
    I am surmising, 1) economic collapse, 2) food riots, 3) UN troops (martial law), brought in to control Americans, 4) Civil war against our government, 5) and finally when Russia sees our nation distracted by inner turmoil, she will sneak nuclear attack us and destroy us in one hour, MILLIONS, IF NOT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS KILLED!!!
    If we don’t turn back to God, we are done!!
    God is judging us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ———————————————————————————————-
    HvensFury said;

    HvensFury
    May 5th, 2010 at 6:06 am

    I would truly like everyone to be able to come back to me and say I was crazy, but my fear is that im accurate when I say that I believe martial law is eminent within the next 7 months. For those who aren’t aware, our congress and pres. are NOT who controls our Gov. It is the Elite, the International Bankers who have established themselves as the FED. Power is their only goal, at any price and they have everything to loose with this next election if they don’t stop it, and martial law is that estoppel. If they are not removed very very soon, you will wish You sold everything of value and filled ever space in your home with your families needs. We have been warned!God protect us

  • http://taleof2nations.blogspot.com/ James Marshall

    America is in the Bible, that I can say irrefutably. The coming economic crash will be used by God to bring this nation to it’s spiritual senses, and establish our identity as the last days nation called Israel. Israel, NOT JUDAH. Judea/Jerusalem was not named Israel till 1948… Yes we ” America ” the lost ten tribes, which the bible prophesied to be gathered to our own land in the last days.

    Oh I’m sorry the lost 10 tribes are lost??? Have you read your Bible lately? The Bible tells exactly where they went… and you can find out by reading it.

    Incidentally the Book of Mormon most Christians think to be false will also be validated as true. But the powers of the devil must be shaken loose over man before he will begin to acknowledge the truth himself.

    Most reading this response will think me a luny ” Mormon ” on a lark, blowing off my mouth. Truth be told they could be right! On the other hand, if you’re a rare soul who trusts their inner voice, ( I call it Holy Spirit ) listen to what I say and see if you sense perhaps some truth.

    And Yes I tend to agree with this post article. The Bible and Book of Mormon prophecy the coming collapse of Babylon.
    Revelations 14:6 angel shall preach gospel, ( Book of Mormon ) Revelations 14:7 Fall of Babylon. Revelations 14:8 Mark of the Beast. The Mark of the Beast is here.

    All who are wise will pay attention. On the internet it’s called a human implant chip.

    In the news it’s called a medical records chip.

    Fox News wrote a story how this chip can kill you by radio signal.

    My point is that people need to pay attention. Read your Bible and get a Book of Mormon. For out of the Mouths or two or three witnesses every word, including Jesus Christ’s who is the Word ( John 1:1-3 ) shall be established and confirmed. 2 Corinthians 13:1

    Or if you have questions click my link, it will take you to my blog and I’ll be happy to answer questions.

    God Bless and get ready.

  • juandos

    Personally I think your number 16 should be number 1…

    Have enough of number 16 then getting the other 19 items is much, much easier…

    Been there, done that, and bought the t-shirt…

  • http://None Barb

    Quit quoting the bible – get real – God doesn’t exist and neither do you. Everyone should bet prepared for their own families to survive a crisis. Get some extra food, water, clothes, tools and have a plan “B” to escape if necessary.

    Good Luck!

    • don

      Well, good luck with that. but remember he is a prayer away when you find yourself alone and in need .

  • http://none jrsmac

    For Barb.
    Psalm 14:1 The fool says in his heart,
    “There is no God.”

  • SF

    Where is Governance. What is the Government / Leaders Doing. Will they fail again in the future when the next wave arrives ? Why dont the leaders see these things & have contingency plans ?????

  • Scared Out of My Wits

    You are a bunch of nutters!

  • Rellif

    Suggest you read “One Second After”, at least read the afterword at the back of the book and then check out the Commission Report on EMP.

  • Renita

    Here we go again! The media is putting out the FEAR card again. Get your heads on straight the media isn’t someone we can believe anymore they are powered by the higher ups that want us in fear.
    Start thinking for yourself. Go into your heart and ask what is truth. Is there something here that we need to be concerned about?
    We fell for this same garbage with Y2K and look what happened, nothing. I still have all the stuff, have given some away, but it cost us Thousands of Dollars and we decided not again.
    Trust God and if you don’t believe in God to bad because whether you do or don’t he is still inside of you. That is what the heart and your soul is all about. He isn’t out there he is in here in you.
    Trust your inner being and obey, don’t start clucking and acting like a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off. Have some cash on hand, use prayer and protect yourself, do have some food on hand, you should have that anyway just for general principal because of storms and earthquakes but don’t go out and spend all your money on this stuff. What if it never happens? What if we have someone out there that IS looking out for us and will protect us from these crooks that are trying to inject fear into us again. We don’t need their oil anymore there is plenty of free energy sources that they won’t tell us about. Stay away from all groups that is about fear.

    Let’s stand up to them and let them know they can’t scare us anymore. No more doom & gloom lets change our thinking so they don’t have the power over us. Take BACK YOUR POWER!

    Be Strong don’t be a victim! Joshua in the Bible says 7 times Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the LORD thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.
    Then Joshua commanded the officers of the people, saying, Pass through the host, and command the people, saying Prepare you victuals (articles of food; supplies, sustenance, provisions); for within 3 days ye shall pass over this Jordan, to go in to possess the land, which the LORD your God giveth you to possess it…
    Read Joshua 1 and stand strong!

  • Paul

    A couple of useful items: Clorox. Very cheap. Can purify water and also handy for sterilizing anything. Saving a pile of old newspapers is another good cheap item — useful for starting a fire and, hey— better than nothing, using as toilet paper. More expensive — a couple of handfuls of silver coins in case no one wants US paper dollars.

  • Toeser

    I do not refute that a major collapse could happen. I have met three people from collapsed countries, and they did not think it would happen to them. One was a retired college professor and his wife was a nurse. They were reduced to using a bicycle for transportation.

    But pessimism is our worst enemy. It can become a self-fulfilling philosophy. We need more realism, but not more pessimism. I have always been conservative with money, energy, and pretty much everything else. If that doesn’t carry me through, well, screw it. I am not going to buy a gun, dig a hole in Montana, and stock it with guns and food.

  • Brian

    Barb is probably correct, but none of us can be sure. The absence of proof of god is not a guarantee that there isn’t one, but believing in something based entirely on faith seems the weaker of the two basis for decision. I have faith that god is concept invented by powerful men to control the masses. The bible is one tool in the arsenal, revised, edited and refined over the ages to affect this end. I suggest human beings stop waiting for biblical prophesies to come to pass. That said, economic crisis, terrorism, electric grid collapse, war, climate change, water contamination or shortage, crop failure, supply chain disruption and pandemic are all possibilities to take practical and reasonable precautions against. I think we can be fairly confident that these things don’t happen because of something someone wrote 2000 years ago. They happen because the universe is a random and infinite place where anything that can happen, will…eventually. Anyway, we are all here for a very short time so try to enjoy it. Don’t sit in your bunker polishing your gold and oiling your weapons waiting for the Rapture. Take some of your precious and short time to do some good. If you are right about god, you must realise that’s what “he” would want. Anyway, we all become dust eventually. The human race as a whole is destined for this fate when the sun burns out (unless we seed ourselves on a younger solar system). Be good.

  • Arnold Fuggi

    I love the way people get web hits with fear mongering. Unless your scout troop is going camping this weekend I doubt you need half of this stuff.

    The economy has already started a mild collapse. You see less items in stores because of inventory control. But you still have necessary supplies. The frivolous excesses of the past are gone for good but we still can live like humans instead of cave men. People are cutting back and using more common sense, those who don’t may feel like the world is collapsing around them……………

    BOOOOO!!!!!!! did I scare you?

  • Arnold Fuggi

    [[Clorox. Very cheap. Can purify water and also handy for sterilizing anything.]]

    Clorox! yeah…….can mix with acetone and make ether to incapacitate some of the loud mouth knuckleheads.

  • http://www.aded.co.za Goldman

    I really doubt a total collapse – or perhaps we in Africa are used to a bit more Anarchy – that said…

    Number 21 on the list is surely small denomination silver and gold coins.

    Trade will once more be our salvation!

  • http://surviveabide.com Marc in Alabama

    When disaster strikes, normal, “good” people can turn nasty … especially if their children are going hungry. Most people have only 3 days of food in their homes … so we are only 9 meals away from anarchy anyway. If you live on subburbs or cites, your preparations to stay put may simply be that you are storing up things for others to take. Find a friend or family member who lives in the country .. contribute to the “group” stocking of food and equipment.

    Notes:
    A swiss army knife is genneraly useless … get several diferent multi-tools … a big locking folding knife with large serations.

    Clorox and other bleach has a shelf life of only 6 months … get Calcium Hypochloriate or commonly called pool shock … lasts forever … make sure there are no other “active” substances such as algicides.

    An axe yes, but also hatchet and sieria saw.

    BEST sruvival tool is your brain … get knoweldgable and PRACTICE skills you will need.

  • LocalHero

    @ jrsmacThe “…they will bomb the nuclear warehouses. When they explode, America will burn!”

    Sorry dude. It doesn’t work like that. You can blow up the entire nuclear arsenal over & over again but that does absolutely nothing. You need the triggers. Seems like your “Lord” would know how a nuclear device works (and a lot of other things).

    Put down your Bible & pick up a book that you can learn something from. You’re delusional.

  • bill in NH. Ca

    one thing we have prepared is 5 neighbors on the block,, and the weapons needed to keep the ( blank ) out.. take care all ///

    bill h

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  • Cathy

    I have to disagree about storing gasoline. Way too dangerous and it doesn’t store well. Please do NOT do this. Get a diesel car and store diesel fuel. Treat it with PRI-D. I stored 4 x 55 gal drums worth (from fruit juice, the drums, not the diesel) for about 5 years and it was fine. You have to rotate your stock and do NOT pump from the bottom because moisture will condense in the drum and drop to the bottom, a real killer to your engine. They also now sell 5 gal container specifically for diesel. Good luck to all.

  • abbas

    This is all nonsense. It’s all HOWARD RUFF all over again.

  • Lorie

    Amen to Renita’s suggestions…
    Whether one believes in YHVH (God) doesn’t change the FACT that He is real and we are living on borrowed time. Prepare thee the way of the Lord! ♫

  • Alexandra Mark

    Sorry,I’m not buying such an apocalyptical view. It’s one thing to be prepared for lean times, but the destruction of mankind is not in God’s plans, and the scenario described in the article is written by a mere, flawed mortal. Far better to think of how we can get better leaders in office; leaders who are not power hungry and corrupt.

  • Iconoclasm

    Watch this very carefully. It will happen sooner than you think:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIWFp4RPemY

  • http://none jrsmac

    I am glad you read my posting and hope you went to the web sites and read more of the visions.
    My duty is, “Warning People!”
    Whether you or they, believe it or not, is not my responsibility.
    “When,” this happens, then you will believe, if you are still alive.
    I want America to repent, so maybe God will relent, and not allow this to happen.
    “Repenting and turning to the “God of the Holy Bible, through His Son Jesus,” is our only hope!!!!!!!!!”
    —————————————–

    LocalHero
    May 11th, 2010 at 3:18 am

    @ jrsmacThe “…they will bomb the nuclear warehouses. When they explode, America will burn!”

    Sorry dude. It doesn’t work like that. You can blow up the entire nuclear arsenal over & over again but that does absolutely nothing. You need the triggers. Seems like your “Lord” would know how a nuclear device works (and a lot of other things).

    Put down your Bible & pick up a book that you can learn something from. You’re delusional.

  • http://wesurroundthemusa.ning.com/group/preparedness Banzai

    We must stick together. Stay in contact and unite!

    http://wesurroundthemusa.ning.com/group/preparedness

    http://wellregulatedamericanmilitias.com/group/floridaconstitutionalmilitia

    http://wellregulatedamericanmilitias.com/group/texashomesurvivalpreparations

    Check them out and help support the USA and protect the Constitution!

    “On every question of construction carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed.” –Thomas Jefferson

    I do not want to be a Global Citizen,
    I want to be a FREE AMERICAN.

    “I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.” — John Adams

    “For God so loved the world that He sent His only begotten Son; that whosoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.” — John 3:16

    “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it on to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children what it was once like in the United States when men were free. ”
    –Ronald Wilson Reagan, 1961

    If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” – Samuel Adams, speech at the Philadelphia State House on August 1, 1776.

  • Minor Prepper

    I think Butch is hilarious. Dude, if all heck breaks loose, you can come chew wheat kernels with us. Just promise to make us laugh, what?

  • Ken

    jrsmac:

    I’ve read your concerns and warnings, and have at the very least looked over similar “Doomsday” rants at least since Hal Lindsay’s heyday back in the 1970s.

    People should be concerned about their well-being in these days, however the fear, guilt and blame mongering perpetuated by you and others isn’t helping matters one jot or tittle. Nor is it helping anyone when so-called spiritual leaders insist that human kind cannot save itself from its self-created monsters.

    It is a slap in the face to the divine to state God alone can save us from ourselves when we, as a species, have been given every capability we need to set our own affairs to rights and save ourselves. And quite frankly, if we fail it is our own fault, not the “Judgement of the Almighty”.

    The Almighty, whatever that is, has producted a fantastic cosmos governed by fields of influence we call ‘natural laws’. These laws are, more or less,
    absolute, definable, predictable and can be used by curious creatures such as humans to perform the miraculous.

    Ignorance, fear, short sightedness, greed and arrogance can and do influence the rational mind, allowing us, in our voluntary subjugation to base impulse, to fashion nightmares for ourselves and others. God isn’t judging humanity. Humanity is judging God, and I find that far more reprehensible than all but a handful of the so-called ‘sins’ mentioned in the Judeo-Christian bible, Quran, or just about any other so-called holy book.

    Forget about what you -think- you know, because the truth is…you -know- nothing. Just like the rest of us. Cease using your narrow-minded and egotistical assumptions to spread fear in times of duress and set yourself on a course to actually assist your fellow humans. Or at least to encourage them to better themselves.

    There is a simple probability I like to consider as regards the “Holier than thou Doomsayers”: They seem to need others more than others need them…just like the -god- they profess to worship.

    That alone is enough to tell me the nature of such a -god-.

    God doesn’t need you or others like you to tell us what God wants. God is more than capable of speaking such things to each of us….directly…without your assistance or (more accurately) interference.

    For my part, God speaks to me through all of creation. And all of creation sings the praises of a God that is far more concerned with the most minute of details governing the properties of matter and energy than s/he/it seems to be concerned about the minutae of the human condition. WE are the ones who need to pay special concern to that! Not God!

  • G Stiles

    Most people have no idea what they’re talking about, when it comes to God and Man. America is NOT in the Bible. This is pure “newspaper exegesis”. You cannot use events to prove the Bible, rather, when the things prophesied in the Bible happen, they will occur EXACTLY as they were prophesied, to the last detail.

    If you want to know what the Bible says about the Last Days, ask a Jew. After all, the entire Bible was written by Jews. Romans 3:1,2 states that all revelation was to the Jews and not to the Gentiles. That’s right, Dr. Luke was a Jew. So have a little humility, you foolish Gentiles and learn something: You must be spirit baptized (born again) to understand God and to love Him.

    The 12 Apostles, themselves Jews, asked of Yeshua (Jesus), Himself a Jew, a few questions about the end times. “What will be the sign of Your coming and of the end of the world?” in Matthew 24. His reply is a Jewish idiom for world war, ‘when nation rises against nation and kingdom against kingdom’. So, WWI & II was the beginning of sorrows, the beginning of the end of this age.

    In Thessalonians, Paul (a Jew) tells the Church that that Day- meaning, the Tribulation Period- will not come, except there come a falling away first. What have we seen for the last 100 years, but a falling away from the faith with every kind of heresy, from Communism & Socialism to Branch Davidians?

    Johannan (John, yet another Jewish Apostle) tells us in Revelation that, “the time is at hand”, which means that when it starts, the Tribulation will be fast and furious.

    And Daniel lets us onto the fact that this Tribulation is the missing “seven” of the 49 sevens in his prophecy. It will be seven years of the wrath of God upon Mankind.

    But where are we? We are in the last great Gentile Kingdom on earth. “The Beast” is a kingdom that changes from its United Stage, strong as iron (63-285 BC) in the Roman Empire, to its Two-Division Stage, or east-west balance of power (364-Present), to its One World Gov’t Stage– toes of iron & miry clay– to its Ten Kingdom stage, ten horns (Kings)– three are uprooted leaving seven who will submit to the eighth horn– and finally, the AntiChrist Stage of Absolute Imperialism– the Little Horn who is the eleventh horn (in relation to the ten) and becomes the Eighth Horn to be destroyed by God ending Gentile domination of Israel. Right now we await the One World Government. So what will have to happen to bring this about? The balance of power will have to be upset. America will have to be destroyed from within, right? Remember, America is not in Bible prophesy. But Russia is. In Ezekiel 38 and 39, Russia is destroyed when they invade Israel from the north with a massive allied invasion of Iran, Turkey, Armenia, Germany and Somalia, and they are subsequently destroyed by God with rain, fire and brimstone from Heaven. Before you mock, consider that God’s destruction of Sodom and Gommorah with brimstone still can be seen in the archaeological record in balls of sulfur found embedded in early walls and earth. God will also rain fire on Russia itself, and totally destroy her for her anti-Semitism.

    The re-establishment of Israel, along with actual earthquakes & famines of the last 100 years, are all birthpangs which increase in frequency up to the end. There will even be the first of five blackouts of the sun before that Day comes. “The end” is not the end of it all, but God brings in the Kingdom of His dear Son as rightful King.

    There is so much more. Go to Ariel.org and Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum’s messages if you are interested. God bless you.

  • mac

    This is what is coming to America’s cities. Prepare!!! http://thecitymovie.com/

  • Kristin Thomas

    Here’s a thought to all those on here who are dismissing this as “alarmist thinking” and that this shouldn’t be taken seriously or even joked about…if the people in New Orleans had used these tips before Katrina hit, there would have been NO need for panic, because they would have been PREPARED for the worst. That is all this is. Being prepared. Why is that such a big joke?? Our materialistic, government guaranteed lives have made us lazy and unable to effectively care for ourselves if the need ever arose. It doesn’t take more than a major Category 4-5 hurricane, flood or major tornado to turn a normally active, 21st century town into a Stone Age camp. Don’t act like this a joke, take this seriously and maybe if the day ever comes that you are in that impossible position, you and your family will be ready.

  • Radio Flyer

    People that want the world to repent or suggest praying will solve the problem are missing the boat. God expects us to protect his most precious asset, which is our life and that of our family. Learning how to build a plan, thinking it though, and amassing the things needed for survival is our earthly responsibility. Going down as a martyr for the sake of having it on one’s tombstone will mean nothing unless there are people who belive in God to carry the message on. So get started and be ready. It takes time, and while some think tomorrow, in reality the decay will be a lot slower, possibly decades. Then when something major does happen, most of us will have forgotten the plan and let the amassed gear decay as well. So stay awake! That’s my 2 cents worth.

  • Radio Flyer

    Ken, get a real life! Get over the bitter. Get a lot more practical. It is interesting how you critically judge others in their thinking and your opinion is nothing more.

  • stiggybaby

    P L A N T F R U I T T R E E S T O D A Y ! ! ! Y O U H A V E T H E Y A R D S P A C E ! ! ! D U H ?

  • D. B.

    “He who seeks to save his life will lose it but he who loses his life for my sake will find it.” – Jesus

  • cc

    You folks are all a bit out there. Even tho I have everything on the list, this isn’t going to happen. This is fear mongering. It didn’t hapen after Kartina, it didn’t happen in Haiti, nor Iceland. It didn’t happen after the Sunami’s in the Indian Ocean. Relax. If you want to prepare that is good. You are better off really learning tho. Become an EMT and keep you skills sharp by volunteering in your Community. Get a HAM license and join the county reaponse unit. Become a volunteer fire fighter. This is time better spent then sitting in Church wringing your hands about an event that has been ‘forseen’ for thousands of years, yet has yet to come true. Relax and help your fellow man (and woman of course). That is what the ‘god’ really wants from us anyway.

  • Stu

    Thanks for the list, it’s a good start at identifying the needs of a family to survive as best they can “any” prolonged emergency situation.

    I have a moto:

    “believe in what gods you may, but TRUST in cold hard steel!”

    I believe that it’s my job to be as best prepared as I can be. I’ll learn the truth about the whole deity thing soon enough, till then I need all the preparation and common sense to survive what ever might happen.

    There is plenty of occurrences around the world and here in the US that give me cause for concern. I have little to no faith in our Government’s ability to steer us clear of economic ruin. In fact they seem of late to do their best to do the opposite imo

    So if I had to bet…I would bet that one day in my lifetime there will come a time where there is NO electricity or running water or gas to be had in my home or community, for an extended period of time.

    When and IF that happens…what would I do?

    I made a list the other night on a paper pad here at my desk. If actually has several of your suggestions ;)

    My wife and I have “some” food stuff and water and assorted supplies, but we need a lot more.

    Just in case ;)

    I think people will always have their own personal “belief system” or even “non-belief sys.) but the bottom line is that as a person with possibly a family of loved ones we care about.

    We owe it to ourselves and them to be as prepared as possible…to survive “another” way than what we’re use to.

    It doesn’t matter what you believe or what church you belong to…you’re still going to get thirsty fast!

    Good luck to all!!

    And yea, hopefully we’re all being a bit over cautious.

    But it’s best to be as ready as we can just in case :)

    Regards,

    Stu

  • peewee

    When the world ends because God’s appointed guys at the Federal Reserve decide to collapse the dollar and bring in the Amero and North American Union (as planned from back in 2006), I hope they let loose the zombie viruses from Fort Detrick at the same time, because I am SOOOOO ready!

  • Pauline

    I think the biggest threat, especially in the inner cities and ‘burbs will be the marauders that will try to take what they need/want. Just be prepared to defend yourself!

  • http://www.watchman2009.blogspot.com cliff hilbert

    Wednesday, December 2, 2009

    Your Ark and the Coming Flood

    For years now many of you have been ark-building and you didn’t even know it. What you thought was a horrible way that God had forced you to live – i.e. giving up your jobs, your homes, your precious possessions – was actually a building process. You were building your arks of faith and trust in the Lord while most, if not all, of your friends, family and other Christians didn’t understand, laughed at you, thought you were crazy and told you that you were not hearing from the Lord. They judged you, condemned you and ridiculed you, just as they did to Noah when he was building his boat.

    The process has not been easy. Instead, it has been very, very painful and very, very lonely. It has cost many of you, including myself, literally everything. Your lives, and mine, have been turned upside down. Everything that used to be normal is now abnormal. Everything that used to be abnormal is now normal. You, and I, long for some semblance of normality in our lives again because what we have had to go through has been absolutely horrendous – terribly, terribly painful. It has been the worst nightmare that we could have ever dreamed.

    But we have been building our arks of faith all this time. The Lord has taught us to trust Him in every way, for everything. But trusting Him to provide for us has been many times met with bitter disappointment after bitter disappointment after bitter disappointment. Many time we wanted to give up, but God would not let us. But we are still alive and our faith is now much stronger than it ever was before. Our arks of faith are just about finished and God is getting ready to tell us to enter our arks.

    These arks of faith are what we will enter when His judgment is poured out upon this nation, very, very soon. We have learned how to listen to Him, how to hear Him and how to obey Him. When He says to pack up and move, we will pack up and move, not always knowing where we will be moving to. When He says to go here, we will go here. When He says to go there, we will go there. We will be like Abraham, moving from place to place, from refuge to refuge. Some He will settle down in one place, others He will keep moving from place to place. But we will continually be in our arks of faith. We will move upon the floodwaters of evil and catastrophic judgment that will be unleashed upon this nation, but we will be at peace and we will experience God’s supernatural protection and provision.

    Wherever He tells us to go, they will be places where we will minister to others who have not been prepared as we have. The fearful we will lead to peace. The wounded and hurting we will comfort and heal. The trembling hearts we will still. The blind (to what is happening, and why) we will help see the truth. The captives (to the lies and false doctrines of today’s churches) we will set free.

    Others God has been instructing to build physical arks, places of refuge and safety. These will be places where you can be self-sufficient during the traumatic times that are coming. Places that you and your families, as well as others can survive during the coming years. It is now time to begin loading these arks with provisions – food, clothing, blankets, water purification tablets, candles, propane stoves, medical supplies, toiletries, etc., whatever the Lord puts upon your heart to store. THAT IS THE KEY for all of you, whatever THE LORD tells you personally to do. If you don’t know how to plant a garden and grow vegetables and fruits, now is the time to learn – it is also the time to begin storing up seeds for planting during those times. If you can now plant fruit trees in these places of refuge, I urge you to do so.

    The reason I say that it is now time to begin loading your arks is because when hyperinflation hits this country (and I suspect that it will happen in the latter part of next year), the prices of everything will skyrocket. It will cost much less if you can begin to purchase the items you will need beginning now, little by little. But before you do anything, PRAY, PRAY and PRAY some more. Make sure that it is the Lord who is telling you, individually to do this. Do not do it simply because I think it’s time, do it because you have prayed about it and received the Lord’s direction on it.

    Do not expect to spend just a few weeks or months in these places of refuge. Expect to spend several years in them. What is coming upon this nation will not be over with quickly, it will be several years before the danger has passed. You must be strong, patient and have great endurance. Only prayer and fasting will give you the strength needed. Please understand this – we are not talking about a short time in these “arks”, we are talking about several years. This is a strong warning not to take this lightly, but to prepare for a long seige. Life in this country will NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN.

    There are others, like myself, whom the Lord has not had make any physical plans for the future. Our preparations have all been spiritual, knowing that we will have to trust Him to lead and guide us when the time comes. To each as the Lord leads him or her. What we ALL need to do now is to load ourselves up with PRAYER. That is the best preparation we can have.

    When will you enter your arks? For many it will be when Mt. Rushmore collapses – this will be the sign of immediate judgment coming. I believe the solar storms will happen immediately after Mt. Rushmore falls. Life for many will become exceedingly difficult then. For many others the Lord will have wait until a later time to enter their arks. How will you know? By prayer, prayer, prayer and more prayer. You must begin to fill your arks with much prayer between now and then, so you will know when it is God’s time for you personally to enter your ark. DO NOT LOOK TO MAN TO TELL YOU WHEN IT IS TIME.If you do, you will be badly misled. You must develop a very, very close and personal relationship with the Lord now so that you will be able to hear clearly from Him – you do this through prayer, fasting and reading the Bible.

    What it is definitely NOT TIME TO DO is become fearful and frantic. That is not of the Lord, it is of the evil one. Many of you spend hours each day going from one Christian website to another, one religious forum to another, looking for man to tell you what to do, looking for something to be excited about. Many of you do the same thing looking to find something to panic about. What has happened is that you have been misled by supposed “prophets” who have caused you to be fearful every day. You listened to all the lies about the swine flu and how there would be computer chips in each flu shot which would allow the government to track and control you. Or the lies about the irremovable stainless steel bracelets you would be forced to wear once you got the flu shot, giving the government the ability to track you and control your mind. Or the lies about the FEMA camps that you would be sent to if you refused the shots. Or the lies about how when Obama declared a state of emergency regarding the flu shots (it was done to protect the clinics from medical malpractice lawsuits, so that they could quickly give the shots to anyone without needing to follow the normal governmental guidelines in this matter) that this was the beginning of you losing your freedom and the first step to Obama declaring martial law. Or the lies about how the borders would be closed and martial law being declared. You listened to the lies about how Washington, D.C. would be destroyed by a nuclear bomb on Nov. 10 (Vincent Xavier’s first “prophecy” about this was that it would happen in October, but not be realized until November. That should have immediately shown you that he was a fraud because it made no sense whatsoever). Or the lies about the banking holiday that would happen this year, and how you wouldn’t be able to get your money out of them. Or the many other lies out there on the internet.

    Little children, it is time to quit spending all your time on the internet looking for things to get excited or fearful about, and spend that time in prayer so the Lord can tell you what is coming. You would rather spend your time on the internet listening to what man has to say, because that is more exciting than spending time with the Lord in prayer. If you want to know what is about to happen, then seek the Lord while He may be found. You need wisdom and discernment, because few of you have any. Wisdom and discernment are given by the Holy Spirit after many, many, many hours spent in prayer and reading the Bible. You pay a price for them. That price is giving up the desires of the flesh and seeking the things of the Spirit. Few of you are willing to pay that price.

    God is giving us warnings of what is to come in the next few years, and He is giving us plenty of time to prepare for it. The first step in that preparation is much prayer. If you do not resolve to begin spending your time in prayer, you will be in great turmoil in the very near future.

    http://www.watchman2009.blogspot.com

  • mehan

    Are you ready for the Rapture? If not, then get your guns and bullets ready!

  • J.E.Chapman

    I just typed out a slew of great info on survival,as Ive been training over 20 years,but it came up as an error when I tried to post and Im not typing all that Again,But I will tell you that a swiss army knife wont cut it,you need a good beefy knife like a K-Bar fighting knife something you can use to pound,dig,chop,and even kill with if nessesary,a SOG is another good choice,remember you get what you pay for.Also read and study up time I believe is short a good manual is Emergency Preparedness and Survival Guide from Backwoods Home magazine is a very good book to have along with all tha military survival manuals you can get your hands on,arm up with a Good rifle a good sidearm and plenty of ammo,enough food for a year and good luck.Praying Helps moreso than most would believe,God Bless.

  • G Stiles

    Why is the general concensus that America is going to get what it deserves? God rules and He is superabundant in grace toward us. If we will only believe in the Son. I think this is just a symptom of American self-centeredness. We’re so important that the entire Bible is about us. Actually, the entire Old Testament is about Israel and is not for Christians, other than use for examples to us. The 10 commandments, part of a 613 commandment Law are entirely obsolete– do not apply to us. Messiah’s commands are for us. The Gospels, too, are written before there was ever a church. Only the Epistles address the church. And the Book of Revelation takes all the Old Testament prophecies and places them in chronological order of occurance.

    The next fulfillment maybe the Rapture of church Saints. The invisible church will go up and the visible, Laodicean church will remain to go through the Day of the LORD, the Tribulation. So get in the Ark– Jesus CHrist.

    • MX-MAD-MAN

      The ten commandments dont aply to us? You dont have the truth therefore you should not write false statements.

  • http://none jrsmac

    All this rapture talk to escape the tribulation, folks it is wrong.
    Christians are going to go thru it, at least the first half.
    I used to believe in pre-tib rapture, not any more.
    A time of testing is coming on the church, as well as judgment upon the nations.
    2 Thessalonians shows we will be going at least, thru the 1st half.

    2 Thessalonians 2: 1-4 2:1 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers,
    2Th 2:2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come.
    2Th 2:3 “DON’T LET ANYONE DECEIVE YOU” in any way, “FOR THAT DAY WILL NOT COME” until the rebellion occurs “AND THE MAN OF LAWLESSNESS IS REVEALED,” the man doomed to destruction.
    2Th 2:4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

    The 10 commandments don’t apply to us??????

    Matthew 5:17
    “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; “I HAVE NOT COME TO ABOLISH THEM” but to fulfill them.

    ————————————-

    Why is the general concensus that America is going to get what it deserves? God rules and He is superabundant in grace toward us. If we will only believe in the Son. I think this is just a symptom of American self-centeredness. We’re so important that the entire Bible is about us. Actually, the entire Old Testament is about Israel and is not for Christians, other than use for examples to us. The 10 commandments, part of a 613 commandment Law are entirely obsolete– do not apply to us. Messiah’s commands are for us. The Gospels, too, are written before there was ever a church. Only the Epistles address the church. And the Book of Revelation takes all the Old Testament prophecies and places them in chronological order of occurance.

    The next fulfillment maybe the Rapture of church Saints. The invisible church will go up and the visible, Laodicean church will remain to go through the Day of the LORD, the Tribulation. So get in the Ark– Jesus CHrist.

  • Figster

    The 21st century will be seen as one of increasing U.S. superiority in Global economics.

    Remember, with 5% of world population we produce approximately 25% of global GDP. Our naval power has more control over world waterways and thus high influence over trade.

    Our land to human ratio is 2 times what europe enjoys, we produce 85% of the amount of Crude of Saudi Arabia and are second in Natural gas production only to Russia.

    We hold more pending patents in biotechnology and nano technology than the next 14 countries combined.

    Afraid of China? With roughly 8.5 trillion in yearly GDP, they have well over 1 billion people. Only 60 million live above the US poverty level. They are more afraid of internal collapse than we are of external domination.

    There are fault lines of conflict, but the fear of invasion from external military forces is irrational.

    The life span in 1900 in the US was 40. Global gdp, even with our current situation, is expotentially higher than any time in world history.

    A metaphysical answer, when there is no proven evidence of metaphysical presence, is ridiculous.

    We will repair and evolve. Technology is coming at us faster and with it ingenuity.

    • rick

      just fyi.. they add GOVERNMENT spending to the GDP figures.. so, i would look to those numbers for hope.

  • Figster

    By the way, your comment board is full God talk. God judging, God is irritated.

    Is this belief system common to those leaning toward acopolypse? Is that why so many militia groups intertwine with religous groups?

    The use of mental energy considering the effects of unmeasurable God force on outcome of global improvement, then swinging it to the downside, is indicative of faulty education.

    We are the Universe thinking of itself. Science is unravelling the mysteries but it makes it no less wonderous.

    What would happen to the moral background of your readers if the body of Jesus was found. If the underpinning of spirituality would be undermined in this situation, what is the quality of your faith?

    The analysis of most of the commentors is based upon metaphysical thinking. The conclusion that we will see children, in mass , digging for food out of garbage heaps, is derived from this same level of keen analysis.

    I am sure they are ready for survival. I assume some just cant wait to show the world their preparedness.

    The middle path, cautious optimism and tenacity , will win the day.

  • http://www/jpj@yahoo.com.ph josephine jacquez

    My comment about those 20 things did you submit is perfect. I just want to add the two major things did you have is salt and water if you are in a hungry feelings just take small salt and 1 glass of water. To avoid pasma lipas gutom. thanks.

  • http://na Kevin

    None of us know if the scenarios above are in fact predictive. Preparedness for disasters is recommended anyway by Federal authorities. Is it possible for Western nations to have a long protracted depression? Of course it is. Therfore common sense approaches like batteries, flashlights, Swiss Army Knifes are as as basic as scouting and military training. THe global economy is very vulnerable because of the debt bomb. The Bible does predict a horrific time prior to a new world. But it also says to have faith, not fear. Another Christian viewpoint is “pan tribulation”. Everything will eventually pan out alright.

  • merada

    Speaking as someone who has lived through both the Rita and Ike hurricanes I can tell you that you had better be prepared to provide for yourself and your family. When there is no electricity, water, phone service, gasoline and other services we depend on, things can get primative in a hurry. You need food, water, medicine and first aid supplies, a camp stove or Hibachi to cook on and a way to protect yourself from the elements as well as from people. All of this was needed and it wasn’t even a complete breakdown of the government. If there is a complete breakdown there will be no one bringing bottled water and MREs. My father always taught us that if you need a helping hand you’d better look at the end of your arm. So you’d better learn to be self-sufficient.

    And, just a nod to those who are waiting to be raptured. “Blessed are the meek for they will inherit the EARTH.” Jesus was quoting Psalms 37:10-11 in his sermon on the mount. So, you’d better be prepared to survive on the earth whether it’s just a government meltdown or really THE END.

    • Judy

      I agree with your gpa Merada. and will add one comment to it…. the Natives of america knew how to live without all that we have today and so can we IF ppl are willing to relearn. We have an advantage over the ppl who went thru the huricanes. We’re getting an advansed warning, time to stack up on some essentials and lean how to survive. Plant some medicinal plants. Go buy u some essential oils. There are some that are great antibiotic’s and a drop goes along way. :)
      I’ve been learning about them for yrs now and had no clue why. But with all that is happening, I’m going to claim it is a God thing getting me ready for whats to come. It will be needed.

  • d. scott

    Remember Y2K Huh

  • HECTOR

    I cannot believe some of these comments. Example the GPD of the United States is today a fraction of what that used to be and this economy is no longer an exporting economy. People regardless if you do not or you believe the bible clearly things tell you that this boat has sunk and if you are intelligent enought to get around and travel not to exotic resorts where they want you to stay away from the squalor we have already in many of our cities that is your problem. Today we have two United States of America. The one class regardless color have it all and the one regardless of color have not period. The United States is a bankrupted nation and owes over 53 trillion dollars and China now keeps it running along with Europe. Stop your fantasy lies and wake up people.

  • Figster

    First of all, the food is still moving because the credit markets didnt freeze, the economy collapse, the bond market dumped and interest rates went through the roof. This is the crash of the dollar. It is based on the relationship of the economy to bonds to interest.

    Keeping the food and commerce moving was a key and decisive, if not perfect, maneuver.

    We have a ways to go, the President said so in the State of the Union. That was a little over a year ago. We are in a correction, the time of real risk was managed by the very government so many rail against.

    Butch, if serious, is taking things now. He is not, just getting people like us to spend hours on these crazy blogs…

    • rick

      “We have a ways to go, the President said so in the State of the Union.”

      HAHAHA! oh ***********, you’re funny.

  • GoneWithTheWind

    Figster! A perfect trap is one which even as you sense it you are drawn further into it. Sex is like that for teens and 20 somethings. If it weren’t so seducing most of us would never have been born. Our country is in a trap. Yes the bailouts the government have implemented have put off the inevitable but not prevented it. Our debt has exceeded our ability to pay. When either interest rates climb again and/or our total debt exceeds our GDP we will collapse. There is no other choice. Probably the last time in our history when we could have gotten out of this mess whole was in the late 70’s. We were cetainly warned back then! But since then we have continued to borrow, tax & spend until today we owe $13 trillion and we have to borrow another trillion or so each year to keep our heads above water. Like sex to a teenager our politicians just naturally prefer borrowing more rather then facing the music. But the piper must be paid. If not this year, maybe next, maybe the one after but soon. At least with sex the reality hits you 9 months later. There is less time then you think…

  • Wendy Cutler

    We lived on a sailboat for 23 years. All of the above sounds familiar. We were on our own, carried at least 6 months food and propane, and were happy. Who needs civilation?

  • robert

    I’m not worried. It will only happen in America or at least that’s where the worst social chaos will occur. Show the world what we see in your movies.

    • Nun yah

      Are you serious? The dollar is the only thing keeping the WHOLE world afloat. You really think the old Rome won’t burn when the new Rome does? Half thinking can be worse than not thinking.

  • Eric

    Thanks for posting this. I’ve been reading and worrying since I found the Market Ticker blog about 3 years ago, but am really not prepared. I am going to try to follow as many of these steps as possible. The world is in for some really tough times and I just hope civilization survives it (the economics are worse now than before the Great Depression and remember what that led to; it’s almost a certainty that a collapse of this magnitude brings war sooner or later).

  • dvrdown

    O common people do you not know a Troll like
    Butch when you see one? The idiot is purposely trying to stir up controversy so just ignore the fool.

    The article is valid and should get you thinking about what it would take to survive. Nothing in the future is guaranteed and learning survival techniques are invaluable. Take a look at the first 4 volumes of the Foxfire books.

    One thing that I would disagree with the author about is most of the population lives in cities in this country and when the food runs out they will migrate to the country or rural areas. You can only defend for so long but if you have a mob of desperate and crazed people bearing down on your hideout, you will not be able to stop them all with guns or all the ammo in the world.

    Keep in mind that being highly mobile by foot and with light and functional equipment may be your only hope to survive. The contingency plan idea at the end is extremely important. I would have put that first in the article.

  • heath

    Well this is it. We have to implement birth control policy at once.

  • Gratz

    Figster –
    Wise words

  • Elise

    @Sunshine, sorry man, I’m a professional researcher and I’ve personally debunked all those claims like not being able to sell your house without making energy saving upgrades etc. and there is no credible evidence supporting any of it.

    That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have food, water, medical supplies, pet food, heritage seeds, etc. for an emergency.

    A financial collapse IS a possibility, maybe a long shot possibility but…the way I see it, we take out health insurance in case we get sick, and car insurance in case we get into a wreck, it is relatively CHEAP to provide a little basic needs insurance for your family in the case of an economic collapse or any other kind of natural or man made disaster.

    I just don’t think it’s the big bad govmnt we need to be fretting about.

  • http://Mthomson@abcglobal.net Mary

    As we can all see, their is an established pattern of decline. History proves that all empires fail. Is the western Empire that we all live failing? YES! What type or group of individuals have weathered storms like this with the least impact? Typical rural family farmers are the best equipped for success. Learn, practice and remember a community is better then an individual when it comes to survival!

    • William

      If something were to happen, and the Economy were to collapse, or something even worse, you WOULD need to be prepared. Such as storing up water and sterilizing it. Make everthing you get last longer than it would if you could just run to your local Supermarket. Life wouldn’t be easy if something were to happen to the economy. All the essentials were told of up above. Now, for a Community, your family would be the best one. At least 4 people could survive. my guess would be up to about 8. Enough where you could survive, but not so many that supplies go down like there’s no tomorrow.

  • http://www.myspace.com/crockett4peace BonitaJeanne

    As far as the Law of Moses not applying to us, why do you think it is included in our Bibles? Jesus (Yeshua) said the law would not pass away until all is fulfilled. He fulfilled the Law of the Feast of Pentecost IN US FROM HEAVEN (SEE LEVITICUS 23) SO THE LAW IS STILL APPLICABLE.

    IN A TIME OF LAWLESSNESS TO HEAR PEOPLE SAY THIS WHO PROCLAIM THEY BELIEVE IN THE JEWISH MESSIAH IS A SHOCK. IT IS TIME TO DIG IN CHRISTIANS, AND SEE WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE LAW OF MOSES AND GOD WHEN OUR LEADERS ABANDON ALL LAWS AND COVENANTS.

    WE ARE IN SERIOUS TROUBLE SO DON’T BRING ANY MORE UPON THE CHURCH BY DOING WHAT OUR LORD SAID HE DID NOT COME TO DO. ALL WILL NOT BE FULFILLED UNTIL WE SEE CREATION REDEEMED AND EVERYTHING “RIGHT”.

    SEE LEVITICUS 23 FOR THE BLUEPRINT HE BEGAN ON PASSOVER, THE NEXT STEP WAS ON PENTECOST (THE FEAST OF WEEKS) AND THE NEXT GREAT MOVE OF GOD WILL BE THE LAST TRUMPET CALL OF GOD ( ROSH HASHANAH IS THE SAME FEAST DAY AS WAS GIVEN BY MOSES) 10 DAYS LATER THE DAY OF ATONEMENT BEGINS AND WILL ONLY LAST FOR FIVE DAYS, THEN THE FULFILLMENT OF THE FEAST OF TABERNACLES BEGINS FOR 1000 YEARS.

    IF YOU DON’T DO YOUR HOMEWORK, FOLKS…YOU DON’T GET TO GO ONTO GLORY. THE BRIDE MUST BE READY FOR THAT “SEASON” AND TIME (SEE 1 THESSALONIANS 5 FOR A CLEAR STATEMENT THAT PAUL WAS SPEAKING TO PEOPLE WHO ALREADY KNEW THE “LAW” AND WHAT THE FEASTS MEANT…IT HAS BEEN REMOVED BECAUSE IT IS “JEWISH”)…

    READ YOUR ENTIRE BIBLE AND BE READY AS THAT DAY APPROACHES. NO MAN CAN KNOW THE DAY OR HOUR, BUT WE SURE AS HEAVEN CAN KNOW THE TIME AND SEASON (1 THESSALONIANS 5).

    • keith

      Don’t you know it’s VERY RUDE to SHOUT.

  • SPIRITBLADE

    Just EXACTLY what Scriptures did the Messiah teach on in Tabernacle?

    A: “OLD TESTAMENT”

    Wake up younglings.

    The Bible is ONE Book, (not two).

    “ISRAELITES”, (not Israelies)are LITERALLY positioned CLOSER TO THE HOLY OF HOLIES, in the Heavenly Holy Temple. The Gentiles stay WITHOUT.

    Love the Law, it is my staff.

    There will be -0- “RAPTURE”, till the LORD OF HOSTS returns AS SUCH.

    sheesh

    • SmokinJoe

      Actually, Spiritblade, the Bible is comprised of 66 books, written over a period of over 1500 years. The OT is simply a shadow of things to come concerning Jesus. The NT is the revelation of Jesus. To have such perfect predictions, concerning Jesus, over so many centuries, is beyond measure, statisticly speaking.

      • WhatTheFdidBroJustSay?

        SmokinJoe…

        Actually, Spiritblade, the Bible is comprised of 66 books, written over a period of over 1500 years. The OT is simply a shadow of things to come concerning Jesus. The NT is the revelation of Jesus. To have such perfect predictions, concerning Jesus, over so many centuries, is beyond measure, statisticly speaking.

        First of all your not speaking statistically, smart guy. statistics are not the study of that which is beyond measure… quite the opposite… and to see perfect predictions in the bible requires self induced blindness… good luck with that…

        also, to defend a book with your words, body and mind against another person is an act of ignorace, **************.

        “simply a shadow” is an act of belittlement… as are my words… hows it feel to be belittleD? yea… get it?

    • Bill

      Actually SpiritBlade the Bible is 66 books, not one and not two. 66 books by 40 different authors.

  • Baja Joes

    Talk with Family or Friends that experienced
    the Depression of the 30’s.
    They have good advice and the depression we experience probably will have many similarities.

  • Reg Wannamaker

    I lived during the depression. hard times. We
    had chickens(for eggs) a pig, salted it down in
    layers(no refrigeration)A cow(for milk and meat
    A garden(my mother would can during the harvest)

    People helped others(much compassion) My father
    worked 12 hours a day 7 days a week and we just
    got by.(when he could find work)

    Be prepared for any eventuality: food, fuel,
    clothing, a few gold or silver coins, a motor
    bike or bicycle. learn to grow your own food.

    Have love in your heart for all and pray to the Lord for guidance in all you do.

    • Jenny

      thank-you for sharing – it will be much harder than we’re use to now, but with that example you give hope to many – trust in the Lord always.

  • hey hey hey

    “Im not typing all that Again”

    This attitude will serve you well in the hard times to come

    • Arcosanti

      How about some positive criticism instead. Something like putting all of the text into a notepad file and copying and pasting it into the web browser. Let’s not feed one another to the wolves. If we do that now, then we will certainly do it during the collapse. We need to think about helping each other out.

  • David

    If Christianity is the way–why then are there all these different denominations and endless disputes about doctrine and what the Bible is “really” saying. Utter confusion and nonsense.
    And to you survivalists—“the sky is falling–the sky is falling!”
    Great point from an earlier reply–remember Y2K?

    • Lary

      Your comment on all different denominations: Most are for profit, and as far as Christians, most are not really what they claim to be. The difference is that the Bible that speaks of Jesus the savior, who came to give his life for mans sin is without fault. It’s predictions are always correct, the history is proven, and the prophecies within have almost all been fulfilled. This bible tells all that many will deceive and be deceived, that is why it is essential to do your own research. As far as survivalist, let me say, the writing is on the wall. The dollar is the world standard which gives us an edge, but when all other currencies are going down, as are the economies, it is only common sense to be aware. If you make a paycheck of 500 weekly and spend 10,000 weekly, how long can you survive. Well that is what our country has done and now it’s time to pay back, and we cannot. Something has to give. SMART MOVE: Prepare, it is better to have prepared not needing to then not have prepared and wishing you had. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. As is other countries, one day we WILL wake up and realize the banks are closed, the feds cannot meet obligations to pay cops, firefighters, and all the 49% of US workforce. Then what.

    • mandm

      Y2K was a non-event but compare then to now…notice any differences that might make us a bit more wary? Like Greece, the end of the Euro, Iran…? Wake up. The hour is upon us.

    • ed

      Great question. There are many Christian churches due to the pagan and Egyptian culture which thinks in Greek not Hebrew which is the language of the Bible. The Bible was written by Hebrews and Lamb of God was Hebrew and taught Hebrew. Return to your Hebrew Roots and discover how beautiful the Word of God is and an end of confusion (human thinking). God is smarter than me. I know it and He knows it. So I will return to Him and learn my Hebrew culture and understanding of what the Bible says. Current modern day church roots came from the Roman Catholic Church which is Greek thinking. Once you see that evil pagan ways have been filled the churches. Start walking towards the God of Abraham Issac and Jacob and He will run to greet you and help you along your journey and path to find His truth. Don’t even accept what man teaches. You will most likly error. Always test what man says against the truth that you have been given. Hebrew Roots is not Jewish, or Jeresulem teachings. The promise land is almost as Greek thinking as America.
      Talk to our Heavenly Father just like you would your own earthly father. Tell me you need help clearning away the confusion of this world system which calls us to worship the pagan gods, or false church organizations. Prayer is simple conversation.

      • theedgeofchaos

        you are praying to a false phrophet….and will end up in hell!

  • Girlscout

    You know, for all those folks saying this wont happen, I understand they kept saying that in 1929 too. That the recession was over and good times were coming soon. Bernanke even said “unusually uncertain” economic future for us. Japan has been throwing stimulus money at their problem for years and it hasnt worked. There will be an “expert” assuring us “it wont happen” right up to the very day we go to the grocery store only to find empty shelves and rioting in the streets.

  • http://prattleonboyo.wordpress.com Peyton Farquhar

    Half the comments on this thread are from the god squad, the other half is from the gun nuts, and you all have one thing in common: You just can’t wait to show everyone how prepared you are, therefore, you cream yourselves waiting for the “rapture”or whatever term you’re using today to scare the crap out of everyone not on your wavelength.

    It’s very difficult to take anyone serious who gets his marching orders from a supernatural book of fiction and/or a militia/hate group. You all deserve each other.

    • Tomas

      Peyton, no one is forcing you to get your act together, it is strictly voluntary. Perhaps you are concerned that you aren’t prepared and are lashing out at those a bit more observant?

  • Bob

    I have bar soap, warm clothes, Toilet paper etc.

  • Mike

    As for a good knife, I agree with J.E. Chapman.. a swiss army knife may be good for cutting small twigs and string, but to cut larger items, a more robust knife or axe would be better. For me, I prefer the kukri, since it is designed to chop wood as well as to chop off body parts if necessary. Very sturdy and works as well as a good hatchet. In fact it is more like a cross between a machate and a hatchet.

  • Roxanne

    If only everyone had listened to Immortal Technique.

  • theedgeofchaos

    may god have mercy on your souls…you will ALL be destroyed because of your greed and selfishness!!

  • http://jasonmeggs.com J.M.

    Very important, and yet not on this list:

    BICYCLE!

    BICYCLE!

    BICYCLE!

    The most energy-efficient form of land transport on earth. Already faster than a car for most urban trips. Come on people, it’s fun, it’s healthy, and it’s cool! And it doesn’t need FUEL!

    (Well, you need to eat food, but your body becomes more efficient when you get in shape…speaking of survival…)

    GET A BICYCLE AND LEARN TO USE IT!

    (And no whining that you’re in the suburbs or out in the country unless you really are farther than 20km or so (12+ miles) than your destinations, which is still not an excuse. And if you can find a reliable one, electric bicycles take very little to charge, making it not so hard to charge by solar or wind, as well.)

    • Bob B

      If you are in an urban area, you will be a goner, expect home invasions by people with guns to get your food, people will kill to get food for their kids, have an alternate location escape route. Obama has set it up so those who do not want to work will take over al the wealth in urban areas.

  • tom bebington

    god forbid human beings might turn anarchistic out of a major catastrophy or due to weak leadership as tou know jack x british army i now live in usa survival you sayamerica has one major advantage a right to bear arms in my opinion u need more than a swiss army knife to protect your ffamily and turf on my list weapons ammo number 1 water food 2 medicine 3 medicine is going to be like gold money is useless and as u know jack one thing i can do lethaly well is shoot right

  • Kyle

    That’s the 1 million dinar question. How to survive the economic collapse when everything goes bye bye without killing yourself.

    I wonder if this is WAY off of what God thought since I believe in a multi-time line because God has said he will do terrible things but stopped when people turned around and respected his ways preventing the worst-case scenarios.

    The reason why we are not having hyper inflation is because the rest of the world is also sucking badly.

    Germany right now has the strongest bonds which they can pay off and are offering people to buy yet nobody is doing so.

  • Kyle

    What about if you live in a small town instead of a big city.

    We live in a small town and I wonder what will happen if the infastructure fails.

  • http://jenniferkizzy jennifer stewart

    i looked at this and shook my head if that is too occur then i have too get my fire place working asap other wise i’m screwed but hey their’s a large scale burn ban concerning fire places in my city sigh i hate the city i do also i think with all this talk about economic this and economic that i’m scared that one day america will end up like europe oh wait were already their we keep inflating our money it’s losing value fast and were still shirking our ability too do other thing’s like solar hydrogen and even wind power and leave fossil fuels behind some thing tell’s me were gonna be fucked soon royally fucked say good bye too the good life i was telling a man friend of mine how too prepare he told me their will not be an economic collapse i told him sure their won’t be because obama won’t let that happen i just rolled my eye’s and left god he’s so stupid bye

  • Judy

    It will take having to relearn how to live like the american indians did before europeans came over here and messed everything up. They had everything they needed. Food, shelter, medicine, weapons, family, friends, and God.
    Medicine was found in plants, animals, & tree’s. Now days u can learn about essential oils and the great medicinal qualities they have. A drop goes a long way, and the bottles are small enough to fit in a pocket.

    • http://dieoff.org/page125.htm madmax=thefuture

      True that! But it will have to also need RENT to be free. We can’t possibly live with 99% of us homeless! Back to Nature meets Mad Max? I think it will be more like a USA version of Nazi Germany with labor camps for the homeless masses to make Wal-Mart crap after we cut ties with China. Roving TSA groping on people with random checkpoints. Occupy sees further than most where this weimar republic (part two) is headed.

    • El’Choppahead

      HAHAHAHA!!!,….. with a major exception?

      MOST of the natural resources are destroyed now thanks to the over farming of corn, poison dirty water supply, wiped out species of plants and forests, smoggy environments, and shear loss of will power from the millions of zobified public saturated in pharmaceuticals approved by your government sanctioned FDA’s allowing side effects that need more drugs to counter act the symptoms?,..

      and POOF you woke up!,. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!?!?

  • Ann.B

    i dont think it will be anything like going back to nature. That idea sounds like the best poss scenario. Nope, really wish it was tho.

  • Joshua D

    This article highlights a lot of essential things that the mass populace does not take into consideration.A few years ago when I first became aware of the concept of something like this happening, I was horrified. Today, I am hopeful, we have over 7 billion people on the planet, that number has more than doubled since 1960, more than any period ever in human history. The idea that we can just keep trucking along oblivious to the cliff ahead is stupid and ignorant at best.

    After the initial collapse, based on common sense, I am by no means an expert… The first stage will be complete and total chaos. People will be asking themselves, how am I going to feed myself.. many will stupidly get themselves killed, by not thinking long-term. The ones that have others relying on them for survival, like those with a family, will likely be more dangerous. For example, before I had my daughter, I embraced a certain selfish protective attitude. Once I had my daughter, everything changed, I would gladly put myself in harms way to protect her well-being, I know I would go to extreme lengths to ensure her safety and well-being. I know that many people will be like this, making them dangerous.

    After the initial collapse, I project that about 6 weeks afterwards, things will begin to become a little more stable, Once those with stored food supplies run out (roughly 3-6 weeks) many more people will die off if they have no back up plan, waiting for a failed government to emerge and save the day.

    Gangs will band together, and control sections of cities, towns, or any major metropolitan area. So seeking refuge with others can quickly become dangerous. Staying in seclusion for a while is the best way to avoid any possible confrontation where you could be killed for a bottle of water, boots, a knife, and a can of corn. Learning to be self- sufficiant, and sadly making the hard choices on who NOT to let into your retreat. This can mean turning away friends, family, because if they have nothing to offer aside from companionship, you may end up signing your own death warrant by allowing them into your limited supplies of survival materials.

    WHEN this time comes, every human emotion will certainly be tested, as we lose loved ones, and do things we never thought possible.

    “you can give a man a fish, and feed him for a day, or teach a man to fish, and feed him for a lifetime” You will only go so far on a few hundred gallons of stored water and canned goods. Learning how to safely purify the water in the long run, either by building a filtration system or boiling it, will you be able to outlive the ‘short-term’ thinkers. Stocking up on perishable items is not going help you survive the hardship of a collapse, but only delay it.

    Learn as many skills about survival as possible, start now, pick and choose key individuals that you know you can rely on in this kind of situation. Protect yourself, your family unit, then your fellow neighbor if you want to keep this species alive.

    Personally, I dont see this as a horrible thing for this planet. It’s clear that the human race has exploited every possible avenue in order to kill this planet. We are a plague on this earth, and this is not only a wakeup call to those that survive, but a chance to have a real second chance in our lifetime. I don’t like the idea of billions of people dying, but I do view it as a necessity in order to help ensure the long-term survival of our species. This planet was in no way shape or form able to support the survival of 7 billion people long term. Not even half of that. In all honesty. I think about a tenth of our current population would be a decent number to help us live long term.

    Instead of thinking of the contradictory nature of what I am saying. Just ask yourselves if you have a plot of land, that can sustain 100 cows, they eat the grass, it grows back, all is fine. Now throw in 1000 cows… before you know it, they are eating everything faster than they can regrow it, defacating on everything else, creating a terrible stench… is it humane to keep all 1000 cows in that living situation? of course not, just like its not humane to keep all 7 billion people living on Earth like this. It’s not logical… weve exhausted our resources, its a matter of time before everything catches up with us… This collapse WILL happen. There is no logical arguement that says it wont.

    • http://dieoff.org/page125.htm madmax=thefuture

      The oil supplies of Planet Earth follow a bell-curve and coincide with human population… Oil makes life easier, which leads to babymaking. Overpopulation soon follows and exacerbates the mega-consumerism that rapes the earth and encourages wars for resources and makes the 1% a rich dictatorial oligarchy.

      The industrial revolution (oil use up, population up) leaves us at a point [Peak Oil]where we’re going to run out in 50-60 years… the drop in that oil bell-curve will lead to a sad yet logical drop in human population, and will stay down as people refuse to overbreed. Nobody wants mouths to feed during a depression so many will learn how to actually use a condom lol. But when oil goes away, so does the highly energy-dependent (pesticides and fertilizers are both oil and natural-gas based; and 1000-mile caesar salads will be so impossible) food production! We will end up with the natural carrying capacity of the earth… 2 billion tops. Maybe 500,000 at the worst.

      Dieoff.org seems to be very learned. I’ve known about peak oil and permaculture since 2000, years before all the make-money-off-of-preparedness “gurus” out there with their fancy books and courses. Geez, here’s some Free advice:

      Learn to be o.k. at a 3rd world ghetto level and be happy and nothing can touch you. Grow your own food and be a vegetarian. Be frugal/DIY and punk rock about it. Watch Mad Max 1 and 2 and get a shotgun lol. Simple. and free.

      Urban Homestead by coyne and knutzen is worth the money tho. Eat organic non-gmo to stick your middle finger to Monsanto :) The GOOD thing is that prissy people will suffer and Sustainable people will be happy/smug from knowing that PERMACULTURE is the Way.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTU8DCx5oEU

      One of my favorite videos to watch from G4Title!

  • http://GAumon@Aol.com Gilbert R. Aumon

    I am from Alaska and live in the state of South Carolina. I am truely aware about survival and with plenty of self research lately I have realized several more things. I have stocked up on supplies ever since I was able to afford to since moving to SC. After doing many years of research I realize that What I have saved for my wife and neighbors to serve if they needed help is not nearly close to the supplies that I have in store. The protection, ammunition, food and water althouth enough for the immediate will cripple us in the end. To further exlain that the with has some older self relient children on the government or Mommy or just plain stupid will exhaust the survivial provisions somewhat quick. They hang around less desriable people inorder to fit into society and they the kids would not give it a secounf thought to tell the make beleives to move in so we can help them servive. People the point is think out of the box…..Most family do not think but only for themselves and not parent or stepfather. Overstocking is a goood things and be prepared to protect ones self survival.

  • Cy C.

    Why does everyone have to bring in religion. Regardless of what the Bible says….look around…It doesnt matter who says what look at the hard facts in front of you.

  • http://www.bayousecurityandsurvival.com Mac

    In God’s word it states “The wise man sees the storm coming and prepares while the fool does nothing and pays the price”
    We should all be doing Whatever We Can and turning to Jesus Christ for the rest.
    Anyone who thinks that this kind of thing will not happen will be sorry.

  • Bruce A K

    I’m pretty close to being ready.I’ve been homeless a couple of times,so that helps.I ain’t sceared about such a thing happening and i will not deny ChristIf the house i’m staying in doesn’t fall down i should have plenty of water and i have a solar furnace on it.I will help the drug attic owners that own the house if they need it.The steal my money and anything else they want when they want it but i will still help them.I still need to buy a case of hemp seed oil for health purposes.I also need to get about 5 pounds of pot to make cannabis oil to treat different illness’s for people i come accrosed that are ill.I can cure cancers with the cannabis oil because there will be no treatments in hospitals thats for sure.I cured my arthritis and fibromyalgia with the stuff so i know it works.God didn’t put it here to keep the cops busy putting people in jail for using it.I have a good machettie.Thank you for reminding me about the purifacation pills.I have a backpack and lots of toilet paper and darn good solar flashlight i have.I always buy 2 or 3 more cans of food when i go to the store.I don’t eat alot of beef,so i won’t miss it,but there are a lot of critters running around that can be eaten anyway.

  • Kyle

    Good article!
    We need optomists more like you since the end of the world is coming and there will only be a handful of survivors.

    If the government were smart they would use the money to make more hydroelectric dams and allow drilling in Alaska since they have safety techniques they could only DREAM of 20 years ago but the government won’t allow them.

    Save the animals kill the humans is their agenda.

    Hopefully this isn’t the year the crap happens and EVEN MORE hopefully is we get small disasters yet big & long enough at the same time to get people to realize they cannot rely on our crappy infastructure Obama and his goonies wants to declare war on.

    All those Left Wing Green People are going to also be without a job when our infastructure fails from the very people they vote for and it serves them right.

    They tell us we can’t do this or that ON OUR OWN PROPERTY but they have their own private jets they go around as they please stinking up the world.

    All the money is going to the wrong places instead of investing in secure energy to keep the USA alive during the economic collapse.

    It’s too late to stop the collapse but it’s not too late to secure stable energy as there is plenty all around us not beig used.

    Edit: Not being used.

    Solor Panels only work in areas that recieve a lot of sun light and if you live in 45% or north you will lose out.

  • Kyle

    That’s actually the whole *New Age* agenda is to save the animals and kill the humans slowly.

    It’s all a total revenge-on-mankind and nothing whatsoever to do with peace yet people are allowing themselves to be boiled alive slowly as the thermostat rises.

    Hopefully the sheeple will jump out of the hot pot and shut off the burner before it’s too late.

  • El’Choppahead

    I’d like to quote this fella!,…..
    ———————————–

    Peyton Farquhar
    September 2nd, 2010 at 11:16 pm · Reply

    Half the comments on this thread are from the god squad, the other half is from the gun nuts, and you all have one thing in common: You just can’t wait to show everyone how prepared you are, therefore, you cream yourselves waiting for the “rapture”or whatever term you’re using today to scare the crap out of everyone not on your wavelength.

    It’s very difficult to take anyone serious who gets his marching orders from a supernatural book of fiction and/or a militia/hate group. You all deserve each other.

    ——————————–
    and add this to it?…

    when SHTF and WROL is in play,. sadly the armed idiots will no doubt wipe out the holy rollers in a fast assault while taking what they want and possibly raping women and child with out fear of consequences,. they fear no god devised by man kind, and god fearing are to stupid to save then selves, sorry but to quote a passage in your own damned book “GOD HELPS THOSE, WHO HELP THEM SELVES” and that’s the law of the jungle,. your ether IN?,. or IN THE WAY!!,.

    having said that?,. I prepare< for what I'm uncertain of, but I'm not going to be a vile criminal nor a statistic among the Shee'ople and let the government round me up and assign a shitty cot in a rotting gymnasium to me,. I will walk, ride, drive, swim into the forest with hope of prospering with a few smart like minded individuals, I'm sure there will be plenty,. for me?, I'm of the lucky ones with enough ******* brains to know prepping in the USA is futile and hopeless, the ARMY will take over and run it like any other bullshit tyrannical oppressed society and feed you all ***** it's for your own good, WAKE THE ****** UP!,. long term camping with indefinite terms attached are going to be the only non-slave driven methods of self preservation for future rebuilding of humanity in humane conditions,. every third world country was once a great continent and the USA is already on it's way into the shitter, look around you all with the economy flopping and the drug epidemic and government approved pharmaceutical dependent slaves walking the streets?,.. look back ten, twenty years ago?,. think real hard how different time were in just you life times?

    SHEEP WATCH OUT.

    • http://www.facebook.com/linda.stapleton.52 Linda Stapleton

      You are misinformed. God helps a man who helps himself is not in the book. Good try, though.

    • heyho

      El Choppahead, the fact that you quoted a Muslim is ENOUGH proof for me of your insanity. Perhaps you should read about Muhammed and Abu Bakkhar, and what murdering raiders they were. I’ll stick with the law-abiding, human valueing ‘rapture’ nuts, rather than the child molesting, women raping, murdering nut cases that come from Islamic tradition.

  • shudder to think

    I read this blog to get info on how 2 prepare for an extended emergency. I live in the tornado belt and the 72 hr (3 day)prep is standard in my household. There was some good advice in the blog but some of the comments left a lot to be desired. Wheather the disaster is caused by natural, manmade, economic, political or religious circumstances, let everyone add extra according to their belief system and not use this as a soap box for their favorite hobby horse. Use it to offer suggestions how to live through the disaster. You can add weapons and books to your kits as you see fit. My great-grand parents survived with preperation, and while their preperation included a hunting rifle and a bible, feel free to choose your own stand.

  • david khnom

    This list is nice but short sighted. All this stuff will belong to the men in gangs with guns who will simply kill to take all. You want to survive: become a police man–u get a gun and a tight gang immediately, radios and organization, too.
    Prepare to get and be deeply primative for the rest of your short lives.

  • phillip fielder

    EVEN IF You did ALL 20 things Recommended , You might NOT Survive at all for even a very short period of time ; in the event of Catistrophic Events , UNKNOWN VARIABLES/UNACCOUNTED FOR POSSIBLITIES CAN/MIGHT circumvent the BEST LAID PLANS ; BUT , haveing a PLAN is BETTER than “NOT” haveing a PLAN .

  • chad

    ALL this Religious CRAP has LITTLE or NO Meaning in REALITY or the REAL WORLD ; RELIGION IS ALL BOGUS/MEDEVIAL/UNSCIENTIFIC & FANATICAL IN ITS VERY NATURE , ITS THE IGNORANT RANT AGAINST the TRUTH .

    • Ben

      Just because you don’t believe in God doesn’t mean others shouldn’t believe in God. And just like others believe in God doesn’t mean you should believe in God.

    • Lotus1922

      Unscientific? Hmm, that’s funny, because some of the greatest scientists whose work even made formalized scientific study possible, were religious thinkers. Louis Pasteur and Amedeo Avogadro come to mind. The idea of universities and museums as we know them today— institutions of higher learning and exchange of knowledge— is a very religion-based concept for preserving the body of scientific learning during the Dark Ages. The modern world would be a vastly more ignorant and intellectually unstimulating place without the brainchildren (music, art, literature, physical and social sciences, etc) of some people who followed what you call bogus/ medieval/ unscientific crap. Maybe you should dig a little deeper before painting with that broad brush, huh?

    • William

      Christianity is not religion it is a way of life and a way to escape eternal death of a lake of fire if u think it is crap then u better prepare for eternal pain. I bet u even believe in that bogus evolution. you need to open your eyes and smell the roses. the coming of the Christ is near and you need to prepare your soul. your truth is a lie against God it has everything to do with reality and the real world. if you researched to prove that God doesn’t exist then you will prove he does exist because and explosion cant form all of the universe. Jesus Christ and God FOREVER!!!!!!!!!

      • Sean

        Evolution has a lot more evidence to back up its existence than what you’re talking about.

        • Brian Laughlin

          Evolutions has no such evidence. Humans have similar DNA to apes. We did not evolve from them, as if we did they would not exist anymore. We have been humans for millions of years. We are children of God that were made to perfection in his eyes, and we need to accept this before it is too late for some of you.

    • Charles

      Religion is self proclaimed “truths” appealing to only those who think inside the box of reality. There is nothing consistent with the Scriptures and reality. There is nothing proved or linked in such absurd fashion. Christianity has mirrored its 4 predecessor religions, mainly Horace, the Egyptian god. The stories are identical with different, yet similar names, only 2000 years prior to the Roman story told. There was no understanding of how the world worked so illiterate, uneducated barbarians wrote a book telling you it must be god. 2000 years later, the people still follow. Ironic, if the bible were truly gods word, it would have to remain consistent throughout eternity. We know the world is not flat, which renders the bibles merit as false pretense. Ignorance submits to what ever is dictated to it, reason and logic obeys itself.

      • easy2believe

        Please tell us where the Bible says that the world is flat?

  • http://Theeconomiccollapse Sharron mckelvey

    I could argue with many of you regarding the Lord Jesus and quite possibly you would never consider it.
    The truth is the Bible foretells everything any of you are mentioning, the collapse, unbelief, etc. The Bible says it will be a horrible time that the world has never seen.
    Eventually, one third of the people in the world will be destroyed, the one world govt and religion will be in place and you will take a mark in the hand or forehead to buy or sell. Taking this mark will mean you will go to hell. It is all a part of the devils plan to levy his pride into power. These actions will lead to Jesus’ return where all the forces of Satan will be defeated and all the people aligned with such. Remember the ark, folks. God loves us but will not spare any of us–he is warning us NOW! Yes, I want to survive, but I’d rather go to Heaven. Remember too, the Lord will remove all people who have obeyed His Truth. Look back in history after you read the book of Acts in the Bible. A lot of people, like now, offer “easy believing” and a candy coated gospel that was NOTHING like what Jesus preached or the apostles . Jesus said if we receivedHis Sporit, we could be changed and if we didn’t have that Spirit, we were none of His. I know firsthand that God can change ANYONE if they are willing!

    Jesus is coming to get those people that are ready and then it is ALL going to come upon the earth and no one will be laughing.
    Yes, prepare for the collapse, but if you’re not ready spiritually, you WILL NOT survive the wrath of God. May the honest hearts heed the warning, in Jesus’ Name!

    • Preparingmyfamily

      Very true. Amen!!

    • http://Hotmail Ricevile

      Won’t a chosen few be left

    • Amanda

      Amen… and not only are all of the historical and current events listed and forewarned of in the Bible. It also states that one day every knee shall bow as all will see the coming of Christ. All I have to say to the unbelieving, is that if we get to the end of our life and you’re right- Christians nor you have lost anything at all. But when we get to the end of our life and you see that the Christians were right- we have gained EVERYTHING in eternal life and you have lost it all in to damnation for your hardened hearts. It sounds harsh, yes I know. But the truth is the truth regardless of who believes it. God left the oldest, most famous, most controversial book known to mankind as a guide to get you through this life, explaining the “why’s” and the “how’s”. written by 40 different authors over a period of

    • get your facts straight please

      If your referring to the book of revelation you must not know anything.
      The book of revelation was not written to us. It was written to the 7 churches of the province of asia if it was written to us then it would have said. I write to those that walk in the faith or those to come.
      Know your bible before posting stuff like this please.
      They had to talk in apocrypha language so if a message was stolen by say roman guards , then they would have a very hard time understanding it. Also the beasts refer to the major civilizations that had risen and fell. The horned beast was the roman empire , and most of the book was speaking a about a time that was NEAR in which they would have great tribulation which is the time between when paul wrote the letter and ended when the roman empire fell.

      The end will come like a thief in the night.

    • doom

      shut up

    • Pablo

      You’re an idiot. The Bible is just a book wake up.

      • Monty Eugene Brannigan

        I agree I intend to live for those siting around reading the bible waiting for god to save them have always died first through out history. Look at Iraq today. Wheres god and what good is the bible doing for the Christian’s getting beheaded by the thousands. No thank you. In myself I trust.

  • richard f

    You forget one thing. God does not give us the spirit of fear. Fear ,doubt comes from the lower power. He has you where he wants you. All that is happening can not be averted but trust in the Lord is what we need.
    Faith without works is dead,Pray as though it depends on God and work as though it depends on you.Nothing wrong with preparation and plenty wrong with fear.
    We have two fears.We are afraid we will loose something we think is ours. Nothing belongs to us.Even our lives.It belongs to God.We are caretakers of it. Do not give it to Obama again.
    We are afraid we will get something we don’t want.We don’t get what we want we get what we need.He is our provider. Author and finisher.

  • http://survivalbackpackguide.com/ Survival Backpack

    Dont forget to bring knowledge! By this i mean books on sustained wilderness survival and herbal medicine relevant to your part of the world. Remember that at some point your “modern” supplies will run out and you will have to sustain yourself through knowledge of things such as hunting, fishing, gathering edible plants, medicine etc.

  • hecatesmoon

    I see things on homesteading sites sometimes that I think are big mistakes unless you live so far out no one can see you. Even then, you might not be safe if someone discovers your road or driveway. Don’t get solar panels on your roof. You’re just asking for people to invade if they see there’s electricity. Wind power too. It isn’t soft and cozy, but you’re best bet is to at least appear “uncomfortable”. That means no more than candles and flashlights. On the other hand, I think if you’re house appears completely dark it may be an invitation to people hoping its unoccupied. Keep your gardens as out of sight as possible. You don’t want them visible from roads or neighbors if it is avoidable. In the event that martial law is declared they can come in and take any food or water that they consider excess. Dig a pit, place stores inside, and disguise it if martial law is declared. As far as lacking toilet paper, its simple. You wipe your arse with a leaf that’s what you do! Lol

  • hecatesmoon

    Oh…and I think it might be better to be a little dirty. Again, you don’t want people to realize that you have comforts.

  • http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com Tig Bitty

    Exactly what harm can come from being prepared? Do like the Mormons do and store your goods. Once your stores are complete rotate your food and resupply what you need putting items at the end of the line.
    Makes sense.
    If you live within 50 miles of a big city you are going to be a target. Be prepared, it can’t hurt.
    You can sure pick out the liberals here. They think anyone who doesn’t fall in lock-step with their ideology is dumb and they are quick to apply labels.
    If a conservative goes to a movie and doesn’t like it they walk out. If a liberal doesn’t like a movie they don’t want anyone to watch it.
    They’ll be the first demographic to fall while they wait for a non-existent government to come bail their sorry butts out.
    Be prepared, tech your family and children how to shoot as well as weapons safety. A .22LR is a cheap round and will drop most small game.

    • Aledo Hardin

      Obviously you haven’t bought .22 ammo lately. If you can even find it.

  • CountryBoy

    El Chophead you are a dumm @$$, I believe in God and I have guns. In fact I know how to make ammunition. Hopefully when SHTF it takes you out with it. Just like your freedom of speach, I’d like to share some of mine with you too. This country was founded on God and our right to bare arms. If you don’t like that go back some where else you idiot. Its people like you who have turn this country into hell. I bet you even voted for Obama. Nuff said.

  • kelly

    my partner is looking forward to the collapse of our system and is hopeful that after a period of hardship we will all come together.
    On the other hand i am terrified. for one, I live in a rough area where you are robbed for drug money. I live in the UK. I am scared because I know we will be targeted and probably killed. my daughter is pregnant, thats a worry in case she goes into labour and theres no help.
    Also my whole family live on the same street as me. they laugh at all this talk and call me an extremist. could I really sit back and watch them die? they will beg for help. there are close to 20 people in my family. I couldnt possibly help them all./ also I already have anxiety and stress over every day life, imagine me, ******, I am dreading this so much.
    I pray for us all. I pray that we will all come together and change the way we think. I just hope we have enough about us to survive x

    • synn

      don’t live in fear. just prepare. deal with thigns once they happen but always prepare for the worst. worrying and stressing out about things will only drive you crazy or cause health problems. preparing can provide peace of mind.

  • Kim

    Kelly…God love you…I read your post and felt compelled to pray for you. I pray you will come to know the lord Jesus Christ as your personal savior. Only he can give you peace in this world. I pray for his protection over you and your entire family. God bless you and help us all we surely live in perilous times.

  • Bigd

    Read “One Second After” Forward by Newt Gingrich (Don’t let this stop you if you are Dem.)

  • rkc

    Very interesting topic. All sounds like a doomsday movie but i realize the shape our economy is in that something major is right around the corner. I really don’t know where i should start to prepare for the coming economic collapse. I am married and have two children that will depend on me should something like this happen. Any suggestions from anyone where and how i should start to prepare. Thanks!!

  • Sonia

    I suggest that people buy seeds. YOu can buy them 2 or 3 for $1.00 (USD)at dollar General. after the initial melt down and food runs out, seeds will be priceless means of bartering with others. If you want to join with groups for protection you may have to bring something to the table that will benefit the group community. Seeds will feed alot of people, especially when they are able to hoe, plow and harvest together. When you buy frutis and vegetables, dr the seeds out on a paper towel and them store them in a cool, dry place. The seeds from a single cantaloupe is enough to plant 1/4 of an acre of cantaloupes.

    • Patty

      Um, I believe that you have to purchase seeds that aren’t genetically altered in order to dry and save them for replanting! You cannot use seeds from fruits and veggies from the local grocery store and you cannot use seeds from Walmart! You need to order them from a seed company, such as Victory Seed Company or similar.

  • Christie

    PLEASE ADVISE!!! I have just become awake and do not have much stored at all nor the money to. I have talked to my parents on numerous occasions about getting food, water, silver with at least some of their retirement money, and petty cash in the event of bank run or collapse. My mothers comment when I urged them to get silver was they had a good rate until 2013. I can’t seem to get them to understand…come 2013 thay may have NOTHING at ALL in that account!!! She is very smart but can’t believe it could happened to “them”.

    They think I am being silly for preparing what little I can!!!

    My question is what would you do if you warned your family REPEATEDLY and they did NOTHING to prepare..would you give yours away and risk going without yourself??? I am not trying to be selfish at all but have a really hard time feeling sorry for them when they have not even done ANYTHING.

    Please share your thoughts! :-)

    • Rachel

      I’ve known about trouble brewing for a while… It didn’t truly register until recently. My parents seem similar to yours- when I was younger, I’d casually mention stuff such as an economic collapse or things like that and they’d dismiss it all as crazy talk.

      I haven’t got much prepared either. I’m thinking of storing up some canned soup or something in my closet… It sounds ridiculous but at least I’m trying.

      If this is truly the end times or there is a going to be an economic collapse, I’m going to have to try to take them with me to wherever I go. They raised me for most of my life (long story there) and I owe them for that; not only that but I love them deeply. About what’s happening in the world around us- it’s either that they don’t know, they don’t understand, or I’m losing my mind and succumbing to paranoia (along with what appears to be a large group of others).

      Do what you can for them, and try to have sympathy. I won’t be able to do much real preparation until I’m 18 (which is 3 years away), and what little I can do may very well be under their radar, but I’m going to try. And if something happens, I’ll do my best to protect myself and those whom I love. I suggest that you do the same.

      So as for now, do what you can. Keep trying to help them understand, but accept that people sometimes just don’t want to admit the eventuality of anything that threatens their current way of life. If you’re a Christian, pray. It’s not selfish to prepare. May God be with you always.

      • cherie

        you are so young but you are thinking very wisely..there is something coming very soon you can see it with the high cost of gas and the high food prices..i have been stock piling just recently and been praying over the whole situation..i have been telling god what i need and he has been making it available..right away so that tells me he wants me prepared..i pray other people see the light and realize that we are in for some hard times i believe 2013 there is gonna be some type of economic collapse..

    • http://survivetheapocalypse.net ApocalypseGuide

      Christie, I have alot of teen visitors to my survival website, and they all share that common theme- parents that are blind to what is really going on, and happening faster and faster. So many people are, they are set in their beliefs- trusting in their government to “save” them when TSHTF. Honestly, those who are not prepared will not make it if a disaster strikes. Look at the East coast now that Sandy has devastated it! Millions without power, dumpster diving, and dying. And all the “preppers” who were scoffed at and naysayed are the ones who have the generators and helping people charge their iPhones, they’re the ones who are well fed and warm with the correct clothing and are now helping the less prepared, they are th ones who do not have to stand in line for two hours for gas at the local Chevron, only to be told two cars from filling up that they had run out of gas. Show your family the devastation that the unprepared are facing RIGHT NOW in the aftermath of hurricane Sandy.
      And if that doesn’t work, quietly store food, water, weaponry, ammo and knowledge yourself. You never know.

  • Paranoidchick

    So far, this is my plan:

    Watch films like “The Road”, “The Day After Tomorrow”, even, “Hunger Games” with family–discuss the films and survival scenarios with “what-ifs”. Don’t get involved in family arguments–keep it light but logical. What hobbies do you parents have or used to have that might be useful in the face of an economic collapse? My mom has a garden and has started growing tomatoes, etc. I figure, we could spend quality time gradually learning and employing survival techniques like water conservation, seed storage, etc. in her garden.

    My dad worked with his hands most of his life; we could learn how to make tools and such from salvaged things as a way of spending time with him.

    My sister wants us to take our kids camping–like we used to when we were kids. If we make that our yearly family vacations, we could incorporate activities like learning orienteering, cooking in a can, identifying edible plants as part of what we do.

    I was thinking about planning potluck meetups with some of my friends and their kids, some family and neighbors where we pool our knowledge and skills (like, I have a lot of nurses in my family), and watch survival films and shows like “Survivorman” and talk about “what-ifs”–casual, friendly gatherings. We can alternate survival skills with low-tech activities like card games, board games, stress management, making instruments from hardware store and recycled materials(people need to be able to keep themselves from going totally nuts), papermaking, crafts from recycled objects, clothing repair…

    I think that the most important things I need to do are to learn survival skills, acquire tools, and cultivate a community.

  • the jamaican

    I agree to almost every thing you guys been saying they are 13 family that rule the world they all are reptilians they feed on human blood to have their human form ok you don’t when you were young you have been earing about the lost city of atlantis hmmm ring a bell yes not every one on earth is human for example barack obama is a reptilian and the queen of england elizabeth. Barack obama is also the beast that is menstion in the bible the bible is writing in hebrews that is how you will find out that he his if barack become president again 2012 watch out my friends it is all a plan only the person in the blood line of reptilian can vote to make him become president it’s not you that votes is them in the organisation they control every watch out for them peace.

    • Patty

      I couldn’t understand a thing you said here…can you please use proper grammar and punctuation?

  • allen

    dont worry be happy!-man doesnt live by bread alone!

  • jc

    Sharon, there is no hell, and you are not going to heaven. I do agree with you on the bible part, however, just not the way you translate it.

  • no comment

    jamaican:
    don’t be smokin when ya reeedin da skipture mon

  • magick

    Didn’t realize I was in a church group discussion…

  • blevin

    what about a gun if this happenned ???

  • Ana

    I am from Florida but my husband and I recently packed up our stuff and our daughter and moved to NY (He has family here) because there just weren’t any jobs at all there. We couldn’t afford to feed our 2 year old. It’s slightly better here but not by much but at least he found a full time job here. The taxes here are insane! They take so much. I use coupons (yes coupons) to stockpile food mainly canned goods that I get for super cheap/free so if anything happens we have something. I love that stores double coupons here not like in FL.

  • owen callagahn

    only the strong will survive ……. Bottom Line.
    Good Luck

  • Doug

    The economists I follow have been forecasting the next Great Depression for quite some time. However, they consistently predict 2030 to be the year. The were spot on with the 2008 Great Recession, are forecasting a mild recession at eoy2013 through 2014, booming economy 2015-2018, another Great Recession in 2019 almost identical to 2008. I cent remember what they say for the next decade other than the economic cycles will continue. To accelerate. By the end of the 2020s, the world governments will be completely out of economic ammunition to help with troubled times and the SHTF. Their somewhat humorous advice on the best way to prepare? Buy a big house because all of your kids and their families are coming to live with you.

  • disqus_4vXqt6Whxz

    MAY ALLAH PROTECT ME THROUGHOUT!

  • John

    God is dead. Get over it and live your life.

    • Rebecca

      If you state God is dead, then He must have been alive. You make no sense.

  • quran

    Say He Allah is one, Allah He is self sufficient,
    He neither begets nor was He begotten,
    and their is nothing like Him in comparison.

    this is a verse from quran ( revelation sent by God)
    to mohammed pbuh the final messenger.

    Islam’s is A way of life, and you begin be declaring the shahada (no other deities are worthy of worship but Allah and mohammed is the messanger of Allah) you belive In day of judgement and you agree with truth hat Jesus was a major messanger.
    and you avoid all evil and do righteous deeds eg you pray salat and pay zakat to poor

    then lord will be pleased with you and your final abode is paradise
    a place for eternity pleasure.
    if you deny the warning from quran (direct word from Allah)
    then wait for at time of your death you will be certain and it will be too late, as you will face the angel of death who will take out the disbelivers soul in a painful manner , a everlasting punishments will start

  • Fearymongerton

    It’s 2014… Did I miss it??

  • Chris Kozlik

    Wow,
    This blog talks about survival but cannot muster the courage to say the word ‘gun’. ‘More robust’? Really? Let me say what should have been said by the author. Get a pistol and a rifle. Commonly available calipers only. Learn how to use and maintain them. Teach your family how to use and maintain them. Have plenty of ammo. Store the ammo properly. Learn how to reload ammo.

  • gorilla

    jeebus this and jeebus that, he didnt exist and neither does god, if god does exist he has a lot to explain for like rapists, pedophiles and murderers. science is what should be believed.

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