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29 Percent Of All U.S. Adults Under The Age Of 35 Are Living With Their Parents

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Why Are So Many Young Adults Moving Back In With Mommy And DaddyWhy are so many young adults in America living with their parents?  According to a stunning Gallup survey that was recently released, nearly three out of every ten adults in the United States under the age of 35 are still living at home with Mom and Dad.  This closely lines up with a Pew Research Center analysis of Census data that looked at a younger sample of Americans which found that 36 percent of Americans 18 to 31 years old were still living with their parents.  That was the highest level that had ever been recorded.  Overall, approximately 25 million U.S. adults are currently living at home with their parents according to Time Magazine.  So what is causing all of this?  Well, there are certainly a lot of factors.  Overwhelming student loan debt, a depressing lack of jobs and the high cost of living are all definitely playing a role.  But many would argue that what we are witnessing goes far beyond temporary economic conditions.  There are many that believe that we have fundamentally failed our young people and have neglected to equip them with the skills and values that they need to be successful in the real world.

More Americans than ever before seem to be living in a state of “perpetual adolescence”.  As Gallup noted, one of the keys to adulthood is to be able to establish independence from your parents…

An important milestone in adulthood is establishing independence from one’s parents, including finding a job, a place to live and, for most, a spouse or partner, and starting one’s own family. However, there are potential roadblocks on the path to independence that may force young adults to live with their parents longer, including a weak job market, the high cost of living, significant college debt, and helping care for an elderly or disabled parent.

Unfortunately, it is becoming increasingly difficult for young people to become financially independent.  While they are in high school, we endlessly pound into their heads the need to go to college.  Then we urge them to take out whatever loans that they will need to pay for it, ensuring them that they will be able to get “good jobs” which will enable them to pay off those loans when they graduate.

Of course a very large percentage of them find that there aren’t any “good jobs” waiting for them when they graduate.  But because of the crippling loans that they have accumulated, they quickly realize that they have decades of debt slavery ahead of them.

Just consider the following numbers about the growth of student loan debt in the United States…

-The total amount of student loan debt in the United States has risen to a brand new all-time record of 1.08 trillion dollars.

-Student loan debt accounted for 3.1 percent of all consumer debt in 2003.  Today, it accounts for 9.4 percent of all consumer debt.

-In the third quarter of 2007, the student loan delinquency rate was 7.6 percent.  Today, it is up to 11.5 percent.

This is a student loan debt bubble unlike anything that we have ever seen before, and it seems to get worse with each passing year.

So when is the bubble going to finally burst?

Meanwhile, our young adults are still really struggling to find jobs.

For those in the 18 to 29-year-old age bracket, it is getting even harder to find full-time employment.  In June 2012, 47 percent of those in that entire age group had a full-time job.  One year later, in June 2013, only 43.6 percent of that entire age group had a full-time job.

And in many ways, things are far tougher for those that didn’t finish college than for those that did.  In fact, the unemployment rate for 27-year-old college dropouts is nearly three times as high as the unemployment rate for those that finished college.

In addition, since Barack Obama has been president close to 40 percent of all 27-year-olds have spent at least some time unemployed.

So it should be no surprise that 27-year-olds are really struggling financially.  Only about one out of every five 27-year-olds owns a home at this point, and an astounding 80 percent of all 27-year-olds are in debt.

Even if a young adult is able to find a job, that does not mean that it will be enough to survive on.  The quality of jobs in America continues to go downhill and so do wages.

The ratio of what men in the 18 to 29-year-old age bracket are earning compared to what the general population is earning is at an all-time low, and American families that have a head of household that is under the age of 30 have a poverty rate of 37 percent.

No wonder so many young people are living at home.  Trying to survive in the real world is not easy.

Many of those that are trying to make it on their own are really struggling to do so.  Just consider the case of Kevin Burgos.  He earns $10.50 an hour working as an assistant manager at a Dunkin Donuts location in Hartford, Connecticut.  According to CNN, he can’t seem to make enough to support his family no matter how hard he works…

He works 35 hours each week to support his family of three young children. All told, Burgos makes about $1,800 each month.

But his bills for basic necessities, including rent for his two-bedroom apartment, gas for his car, diapers and visits to the doctor, add up to $2,400. To cover these expenses without falling short, Burgos would need to make at least $17 per hour.

“I am always worried about what I’m going to do for tomorrow,” Burgos said.

There are millions of young people out there that are pounding their heads against the wall month after month trying to work hard and do the right thing.  Sometimes they get so frustrated that they snap.  Just consider the following example

Health officials have temporarily shut down a southern West Virginia pizza restaurant after a district manager was caught on surveillance video urinating into a sink.

Local media reported that the Mingo County health department ordered the Pizza Hut in Kermit, about 85 miles southwest of Charleston, to shut down.

But as I mentioned earlier, instead of blaming young people for their failures, perhaps we need to take a good, long look at how we have raised them.

The truth is that our public schools are a joke, SAT scores are at an all-time low, and we have pushed nearly all discussion of morality, values and faith out of the public square.

No wonder most of our young people are dumb as a rock and seem to have no moral compass.

Or could it be possible that I am being too hard on them?

Please feel free to share what you think by posting a comment below…

  • Bubba Johnson

    Guilty your honor. I spoiled my two sons and gave them a great life in my home. At ages 24 and 21 they will not leave. Guess I should start driving them crazy like my mother did to me.

    • I’m from an Asian country (India) where living with parents is a normal thingy even after you get a job. It makes a good strong family bonding. You take care of each other in need etc etc.

      This is only a western concept that you should live alone and buy a new home, new car aka new propaganda to make the elite rich and you in debt with loans. Think how much you will save in Home Loans, Car Loans.

      Family should stick together. Thanks to living with my parents, I never got into big loans, nor desperate enough to do corporate slavery, I’m now working from home, self employed and travel other Asian countries for vacation.

      Do not blame your kids for anything…For what they should go out …So that they could be useful as a corporate slaves. THEY WILL GET IT IN TIME…Let them create their own future..These timelines that kid should do this and that at certain age is really elite propaganda…May be your kid will do best when he is 40+ but what he does during that time would be 100 times better than what kids did when in 20 working as a corporate slave

      • JustanOguy

        Well Stated and I certainly agree.

    • Hammerstrike

      Instead of paying for their own homes, they should be prepping (don´t tell anyone), make sure they have a place away from major population centers.

    • Nicnak

      One day ur kid will take care of u…. Stay together, run a business… All of u can save big money.

      I live in thailand and people are happy here.

    • squashpants

      I don’t know about any of my other Boomer buds, but when I got a decent job, I couldn’t wait to move out of my Dad’s apartment. Now, I had been going to college for years at that point and did not graduate until I was a full 25 years old. But, I embraced being on my own with great enthusiasm, and not because it was expected. My Dad was actually sorry to see me leave, but I was ready to be a man. Ready to be on my own, and I went exceedingly willingly.

    • laura m.

      Parents in the 60’s drove teens crazy and they left home asap . It was considered odd if kids didn’t take off after high school. Some went to local colleges but got their own apt. w/room mate and worked also. Many went into factories or got an apprenticeship in plumbing and electric, etc. and bought houses and married younger than today.

      • Bubba Johnson

        Your post sounds like my biography, thanks, I was hoping I was not the only onethinking those thoughts.

  • James

    i am a 23 year old and I even agree with most of this article. I went to strict private schools and a Christian College where I was taught discipline. Also even though my parents fought they stayed together many parents don’t these days which leads to lack of discipline. The job market is why I am forced to stay at home for now am just working at a grocery store while I finalize transcripts. This generation is a product of the permissive baby boomers.

    • Ben

      It goes higher than any middle class baby boomers up to the illuminatti. People that WANT people to be in as much debt as possible so they can have more control.

    • Bill

      Permissive baby boomers -is that because they gave their children everything they wanted?

      • Jeremy

        That was part of it. My parents did not raise me this way, and it was insufferable growing up around people who were spoiled and pampered.
        At that point I realized that without a drastic revival our country would not remain great. Our system was not rewarding success, but laziness and mediocrity.

    • Annette Smith

      Gotta’ blame someone, huh?

  • Deb

    I don’t agree with you Michael. At least where my son is concerned. He’s 28 years old and having a very hard time with jobs and money right now. He doesn’t live at home but I do help him pay his bills. I think it’s very important for him to have his own place and a home to bring his daughter to. We would all be miserable if he were living at home. He has lost a very good job, then went a year not finding anything. Then he found another real good job but now his hours have been cut. Mix that with child support, health insurance, car problems ($$$) and a high price for everything and life is tough. The only way he will move back home is if things in this country get a lot worse. And he’s not dumb or stupid. He’s always been a responsible young man. Always had jobs and paid his own way. And I believe he can do it again. Things don’t look very good in this country but I try to stay positive and support my children in what they do and need.
    I raised my four children to be responsible people. And I’m proud of the way they’ve turned out. Ya know, sometimes life just isn’t fair.

    • Ben

      You sound like a very good parent. What about like if he moved back with his family into your home like 3-6 months a year? That should give him an extra boost and may be he will not need it ever again or at least having life at least half way fair? The true unemployment rate is not 6.6% or so . It is more like over 23%. Most news is false. Look at indicators like Sears,J.C.Pennys,Walmart….they are ALL hurting big time!

      • Mary Kotomski

        I’ve been to Wal-Mart because they’re somewhat cheaper than other stores. But I’ve noticed that they’re not restocking their shelves anymore.

    • You are correct, the problem is not with the children, it’s with the government. Specifically the Immigration Reform Act of 1965 and its subsequent iterations. Half the people in the country are here now as a result of that Act, when you include their descendants. Add to that fact that the government gave tax breaks to companies that off-shored all their labor, NAFTA and CAFTA, and America got the SHAFTA. And they want to increase even more immigration to push wages down even further and put the last of the Americans out of work.

      This is nothing short of a hostile take-over of America and it’s being done by our government, and the Traitors are in both political parties.

      Even Ted Cruz, the TEA Party “conservative” wants to double immigration, double the general work visa and increase visas for highly skilled workers by 500 percent.

      Most employers won’t even consider an American worker when they can get the same worker for half price from another country, so it’s likely your son won’t even get an interview. And if the foreigner is on a work visa, they like that even better because they will never have to give that worker a pay raise.

      An American can always look for another job if he doesn’t like his raise, but a foreigner on a work visa would have to go back to his home country to look for a higher paying job because his visa is sponsored by his employer here in America. So, when he asks for a raise, the employer can remind him that he’s here on their visa and they can send him back home if he wants to look for a higher paying job.

      Until Americans wake up and see what their government is doing to them, they will just keep voting for the same people that are putting them out of work, like Ted Cruz, who’s wife is an executive at Goldman Sachs, who also wants more immigration and slave laborers.

      I guess we’ll have to be starving in the streets like they are in Egypt before people wake up and try to do something about it. Of course by then we won’t have the means to do much. We’ll be homeless and hungry in the country our fathers founded.

      It’s really a shame that Michael won’t tell the truth about this, and would rather take a “holier than thou” attitude about Americans and our children, most of whom I know are like yours, hard working and suffering due to our government’s attack on us and our way of life.

      • BonusGift

        I agree; and immigration has been nothing less than a form of genocide against the people (and their descendants) that built the country. Killing off the goose that laid the golden egg has consequences; but pretending that importing more ‘hard working’ third worlders to replace the ‘lazy Americans’ and their ‘lazy’ “living at home” offspring is pure insanity. Anyone who laments the loss of ‘American values’ etc. yet doesn’t demand that it look demographically like it did before the AIPAC and Chamber of Commerce sponsored invasion needs to have their head examined. Because the basic reality is that third world people means third world politics, a third world economy, third world schools, etc. etcetera; and it is one thing to lie to others but quit another to lie to one’s self about what has caused the country to be in its clearly dire state; and it sure as heck isn’t the fault of the kids born into a world that is hell bent on their demographic replacement or outright death by, for example, a drunken illegal running them down with a car.

        • You nailed it.

          • BonusGift

            Thank you; I grow weary of people that should be supportive of fellow Americans buying the false propaganda/meme that we need someone else that doesn’t look or act like us to invade our space and quickly or slowly kill off our children or somehow our vegetables won’t get picked. How the heck do they think they got picked before and who the heck do they think will invent the machine to do it if it becomes too expensive to pick them now? The answer to the latter part is it sure isn’t likely going to be some drunken and unmarried MS13 gang banger all of 5′ 3″ tall 230lbs and full of tattoos; yet we endlessly hear of their ‘family values’ or the odd mostly European version is trotted out as the savior to all the problems they created in the first place. “Demographics is destiny”, by definition; and yet we never voted for the first, second, third etc. wave of amnesty and we are constantly badgered about how great the country is by importing more and more third worlders who are here for the wealth transfer you and your ancestors worked and bled for, yet they act like we owe them and not the other way around. Shear insanity and hatred of Christian Europeans lies behind the whole sordid affair. The various parasites and their enablers can scurry off to whatever hellhole they came from and stop defecating in our neck of the woods.

          • Kathy B

            I agree with the idea that corporations are bringing in people from third world countries to get cheaper labor at all levels and that’s a huge problem. But let’s leave the blame with the corporations and not cross the line into racism. Unless there’s a full blooded Native American commenting here, all of our ancestors were immigrants at some point and most of the recent immigrants in this country are not drunks or gang bangers. I reiterate you all make some excellent points in the comments above and below – but a few of you are blowing your credibility by sounding like ignorant white trash or just trolls.

      • JustanOguy

        Yep. I have a fiend that works for Apple and they are notorious for hiring tech savvy Indians with Work Visas and paying them 30% less than what they would have to pay a U.S. Citizen.

        Plenty of Tech companies are doing this…

        They make far more than they would make in India — and they wire a lot of their money back to India to support their families.

        The migrants from South of the Border that come to the U.S. do the same. Wire Billions of $$$ home to Mexico, Central and South America.

        The big corporations are saving tons of money on wages and banking the savings while the workers they are using are wiring billions out of the country.

        • Priszilla

          So, how do these foreign workes who have no families in America to support them, survive in America if they send all their money home?

          • Ceres

            One rents an apartment and 12 more move in with him!

          • Priszilla

            Exactly, that’s how the kids do it in China, too. And the domestic helpers in Hong Kong.

            That’s the way to save money.

            If you’d do it in your own country, you might be able to save enough money to buy your first home with cash, saving on mortgage interest.
            Cash is losing value? Yes, but only 5% a year. Mortgage interest is always higher than inflation.

      • Gay Veteran

        well written, bravo

    • 1Catolives1

      Why the child? Where is mom?
      The real issue is immorality in America. Divorce is a sin no longer thought of a such.
      I do not judge his situation, maybe mom ran off or is dead, The point is that in too many cases there never was even a sham marriage.

    • JustanOguy

      Right with you… Some things left out and not mentioned for consideration is that this particular demographic is very large.

      There are less jobs available as it is because of many factors… throw in illegal immigration on top of that taking up so many jobs.

      I remember working the Peach Fields during the summer time back when I was in High School (80’s) to save money for College and the pay was $10 an hour. Hard work but good money at the time for High School students.

      Today those jobs have been replaced with migrant workers — making $10 a hour.

      Worked for UPS during X-Mas breaks during college in the early 90’s making around $10 an hour. Talked to somebody who was a sorter for UPS (those guys really bust their butts) — he makes $10 an hour in today’s world.

      So many things going on today not mentioned — I actually feel bad for these kids with what they are up against. Calling them Dumb as Rocks? Some of them are but many of these kids can work circles around us when it comes to computers and tech.

      Living at home because of these Economic Conditions? Can’t say I don’t blame them. Most of us know what the real unemployment rate is and don’t fall for the government political propaganda.

      Start their own business? Licensing fees are through the roof where I live and you basically need a license to breathe.

      The U.S. Economy is far from healthy, give the kids a break.

      The flip side is maybe they’ll grow up to be like the generation before the Baby Boomers. Live within their means and save money — unlike the Baby Boomers that were spoiled growing up and still live like brats today working until the day they die because they are in debt up to their ears.

    • Priszilla

      What do you mean by fair?

      Fair is a myth.

      Those who have will get more,
      and those who have nothing, will llose more.

      That’s how it has always been.

      Pray and hope that life will be fair.

      But NEVER EVER tax the rich, or god forbid, try to change things.
      That would be against the god given rule of the world.

      Accept, pray and hope. This way you are no danger to the rulers.

      • Ben

        Hey SHE is his MOM so what she says is fair when he is in her home I have NO PROBLEM with do YOU?

  • K

    Look they were told, take out a loan, go to college, get a great paying job. Big debt, no job, or a lousy low paying job. In short they were conned. There is nothing that will kill a persons confidence, like falling for a con. As long as there are so few good paying jobs. I do not see how any of this can change.

    • Mike Smithy

      Thanks for nothing Obama.

      • Guy at work

        This is the thought process that go us into trouble in the first place. It should have nothing to do with Obama

        • Mike Smithy

          That’s where you are wrong. Obama’s anti-business, anti-growth and burdensome tax policies have done nothing to reverse this disturbing trend.

      • Mary Kotomski

        If he did nothing, we’d be better off. Government governs best when it governs least.

    • MP

      Did you know when you first visit college while still in high school they have legitimate bank sharks there to help “convince” some of the skeptics to take out that loan and “get their future started”. Bunch of con artists.

  • Drud

    Two of my nephews (I have 7) grew up in another state, so I would see them only once every other year. When they were young I was surprised at how smart they seemed. The when they were in high school (the older about to graduate) I was shocked by how uninformed and apathetic they were. This is an obvious failure of the school system, which is a microcosm of the government itself: a huge, wasteful, bureaucratic nightmare that dumps resources into useless administration and reduces teachers to apathetic and depressed functionaries.

    • karryokie

      Since most blacks peak about at age 11,the government must necessarily make schoolwork match that ability.

      • Tom_F

        Age 11 is also when they start reproducing.

    • JustanOguy

      What’s just as bad is states like Nevada that are dumping $50 Million into English as a second language programs so the illegal’s kids can learn English.

  • CharlesH

    The “dumb as rock” kids (young adults) I’ve spoken with and have had the privilege of meeting their parents – I’ve come away thinking that little rocks never fall far from the boulders that they come from

    • Priszilla

      And then these boulders have many small pebbles to please god.

  • PointofVue

    This must be Obama/2Gary2 math as don’t add up. $10.50 and hour with an average of 35 hours a week is $367.50 a week or a gross of $1470 a month, assuming a flat 4 weeks a month (not 4.33). That is before taxes. Then, he says he needs $2400 a month to pay all this bills, which would be after tax, in which they are again using the 35 hours a week, or 140 hours a month, based on 4 weeks a month, to come up with this $17 an hour. Once again, paying for all this after taxes and they are mixing the two, yet no one seems to question these numbers, just accept them.

  • markthetruth

    What’s happened !

    Work = is having to plug your phone or tablet in to charge.

    Job = is using the phone or tablet to text , and use 1 million useless Apps.

    Career = is School followed by paying bills the rest of your life.

    Exercise = getting out of bed.

    Life = Screens !!! , TV, Computer, Phone , Tablet, Car Navigator , google glass Ext.

    Marriage = well ? anything goes , and 50/50 chance of divorce of the person you met on the Screen.

    Inventions = anything that helps you to do nothing !

    Freedom = Death

    No such thing as “Life is not Fair’ Life is a Choice !!! people have to work hard to be Dumb these days.

    the end…

    • Tim

      You had been away for a while.

      • markthetruth

        Yea had rotator cuff sugery .

        • GSOB

          Good to see you

          • markthetruth


    • Mondobeyondo

      “Job” = “Just Over Broke”

    • Tatiana Covington

      It’s 2014…

      • markthetruth


        2 + 0 + 1 + 4 = 7

        The number 7 is the seeker, the thinker, the searcher of Truth (notice
        the capital “T”). The 7 doesn’t take anything at face value — it is
        always trying to understand the underlying, hidden truths. The 7 knows
        that nothing is exactly as it seems and that reality is often hidden
        behind illusions.

        the end…

        • Priszilla

          2 x 0 x 1 x 4 = 0

        • Ben

          Numerology is crap and a waste of one’s time.

    • Bubba Johnson

      Love The The End thingy
      I used it and want you to get the credit for it.

      • big e

        I’m sorry but I find it annoying.

  • kfilly

    The crappy educational system is all part of the plan. Just look what progressives did for the big cities. They created a new plantation to cultivate their new slaves. The progressives destroyed the educational system in those areas to keep those people ignorant. The progressives then gave just enough freebies for their serfs to get by, and not enough for them to escape the shackles of poverty. Now that the progressives have conquered the cities, they are in the process of enslaving us all. Yeah Amerika!

    • Gay Veteran

      the problems in the big cities would be easily solved with JOBS. oh wait, the fat cats shipped those jobs overseas

  • Orange Jean

    America certainly has changed since my day… the day I turned 16 (that was 1966) my parents expected me (and my brothers) to go out and find a part-time job after school. There were two main places you could do that in my town, the local factory or the local hospital. I ended up getting a part-time job for less than normal minimum wage in the hospital kitchen ($1.25/hour and all the hospital food I could eat… blah).

    I was also expected to pay 50% of my take home pay towards room and board and required to buy my own clothes and save whatever else I could from those wages. The idea wasn’t so much that my parents needed the money I contributed… it was to teach us to fend for ourselves. I left home the day after I turned 18 and never moved back in. I had some very hard years (because I became a single parent at 18, not the smartest thing I’ve ever done)… but in the end I think what they expected from us kids was the right thing. In the end, all but one of my brothers (he was spoiled) and myself have been self-supporting.

    At the very least, if you have adult kids living with you they ought to be required to be actively looking for work, contribute something from their earnings, and have a regular role in doing chores. Do that and you have a chance of raising self-sufficient kids… even if they can’t find a job, find chores for them to do so they know they are expected to make a contribution to the family.

    • DiscouragedOne

      My son is looking (since May) and has applied for everything of every level even though he earned a B.S. He signed up to volunteer and he does a ton to help us out, does the shopping, cooks dinner, helps with cleaning, runs errands. It is not bad having him around, but I hope for his sake he finds a job soon.

      • Priszilla

        Where did he apply?

        Did he consider going to a different country? Does he speak a second and third language?

        If he is shopping, cooking, and cleaning, ask him to write down his experiences. Maybe write a book or app with instructions for people like himself.

        He should start his own cookbook, with all the recipes and tricks he learned from you and your parents and in-laws.
        This book will become a most prized possession in the years to come, even when going abroad and cooking something that reminds him of home. Something to teach his children and grandchildren.

        So, get him a A5 notebook with hardcover and a pencil …
        (doesn’t need batteries, still works after getting wet, and fits into any vacation luggage for those foods at the other place)

    • DiscouragedOne

      And yes, I was working pt and paying board by the time I was 15, but we could get jobs back then.

    • Zip

      My dad required me to have a job from freshman year of high school on. I moved out at 18. At 21 got into a little financial trouble and asked if I could move back for a bit to get back on my feet. To my shock he said no. It was the best thing he ever did. I left college, went to work for a year, paid off me debt, went back to college and finished my degree as a much more serious student. I hated that job during my year off, but that is what made me go back to school. What he did when he turned me down was let me know that I had to make my own way and it put a fire under my behind.

    • jaxon64

      Agreed…I don’t understand an adult parent–owner of the home and working their butt off– going off to work in the morning and having an adult child still laying in bed.
      My dad would have gotten me up at 6 AM, had me get dressed and dropped me off in the middle of downtown or at a mall and said, ” call me this evening if you need a ride home–or if you find a job by lunch I’ll pick you up early and take you home to prepare for starting work”…no way in hell my dad would have left for work with me lying in bed or not up and dressed and ready to go out hunting for a job….

      • Bad Kitty Cat

        Totally hear you. Even in these trying times, young adults should contribute SOMETHING and not be allowed to slack off all day/night.

    • JustanOguy

      A lot of things have changed since 1966.

      In 1966, one income earner was all that was needed to live comfortably and there certainly was not a shortage of jobs…. Unlike today.

      Too bad the rest of your generation didn’t grow up and live within their means instead of blowing all their money and getting into debt up to their ears, having to work until the day they die and letting the banksters take over the country.

      When I read articles like this I always ask “Well… How did this all happen in the first place”?

  • davidmpark

    Well, what does everyone expect? Utopia?!

    Over 100 years of decline with islands of normalcy here and there. Good, production work ownership is outlawed for the lower castes, corrupt and evil “professionals” now run things (and what a great job they’ve done, huh?)Yes, I’m calling them evil as that’s what the results are. And people keep wondering why the world around them has gone to #$%& and their leaders won’t listen to ’em.

    You reap what you sow, and you get the leaders you deserve – not desire.

    Sorry about the attitude – had a very long day, today.

    • K

      My friend, never apologize for telling the truth.

      • Rene Girrard

        He’s not telling the truth, but he’s full of it as usual. Machinest are paid like grunts if they can find any work anywhere. They might make $15/hour, but 82K? Come on man.

        I would put DavidMPark on ignore if there was that feature on this board.

        • guest

          $15 /hour for machinists ? I got some news for you.
          Yesterday a local based machining company ( global entity ) had a job fair, looking to hire CNC machinists. Starting wage, 9 -10.75 depending on skill and experience.
          This is no small, rinky dink outfit mind you.
          Here’s another comedy.
          I have 30 years of welding experience in almost every process and am a certified welding supervisor with 10 years of management experience to boot.
          I was offered the ‘opportunity’ to set up and manage a complete second shift and expected to weld production in my ‘free’ time. They offered me a whopping14.75 /hour.
          I started laughing uncontrollably , got up and walked out. They were bewildered.
          My wife and I are in a good enough place financially, because we have always lived below our means. Eventually I will end up taking something. When it comes to that, said employer does not get 30 years of experience and wisdom. I am nothing more than a hired gun.

        • davidmpark

          Ignore, or silence? You don’t like me posting – then get over it. Don’t like what I’m typing, then don’t read it. You’re an adult – act like it!

          And yes; that machinist job was passed onto me by a college recruiter. There are some companies that do go that high depending on the work and experience. Industry average for Utah is $25 -$35/hr. after 10 years. Try researching before posting.

      • davidmpark

        Thanks K

  • Mondobeyondo

    Is college/university for everyone? It depends.

    For some high school graduates, a trade school of some type might be more relevant. Some people may wish to be car mechanics, or HVAC technicians, or plumbers. There are schools that emphasize these particular areas of study.

    If you wish to go into the medical field, or biology, or the judicial system, etc – then yes, a college education is pretty much a requirement.

    • davidmpark

      Machinists can make up to $82,000 annually with 20 years experience and a 6 month training certificate.

      • Mondobeyondo

        I should have become a machinist…

  • Tatiana Covington

    One has to live somewhere, so, if circumstances warrant, living at home is the cheapest, simplest option.

  • Bad Kitty Cat

    These stats unfortunately include the young who do work hard and get jobs… but rent is far too high to be on their own. I know one young family that lives with one set of parents, but all sides contributing. Things are far too expensive now… best for families to stick together, but expect the young adults to contribute in some way. Just saying, these stats don’t reflect those kinds of deals.

    • JustanOguy

      Agreed… I would rather have my children living at home saving money for a down payment to buy something of their own instead of paying rent (and utilities) and never being able to get ahead.

      I own rental properties so I know the game. I have chronic renters that will never have enough money to buy something of their own.

  • Mondobeyondo

    Kick them out of the nest.
    Fly – or die.
    I wish my parents had taught me that. But nooo. I had to learn on my own. If, by the time you’re 18 years old, educated, have your wings – and still don’t know how to fly? Well…

    • DiscouragedOne

      My son is a great kid and we love him, he is not getting kicked to the curb. It is not the days where you could just go out and get a job if that happened anymore, it is tough out there.

      • Zip

        Ok, I hear you, but how long does that last? Will you be in your 80’s and have your 50+ year old child still living at home, never having had the experience of making his own way? I have family like that and it is sad. I get helping out, but there has to be a plan and a timeline to let them go find their own way. The longer they wait, the harder it will be. Every year lost is just that, lost.

        • Annette Smith

          If there are no jobs, there are no careers. My son lives with me. He has started manufacturing things. People like those things. We’ll see what happens with his endeavors.

  • Wakulla Prepper

    Look to the parents for the failure of their children. My experience with public schools was that the teachers were willing to help my child in direct proportion to my wife’s and my involvement, thus overall a very good experience. My son was raised with traditional Southern values (by addressing adults as yes sir, no ma’am, he was constantly reminded of his place as a child). The example of self discipline was set for him. A very clear time line for his financial independence was set in high school, and followed through (2 years of college, no more). Boy Scouts reinforced these values. Travel across America showed him both the possibilities, and the fact that most people did not have the same standard of living as our neighborhood. Today at 28, married, homeowner, he is very well regarded by all who know him (I take great pride in the number of people who say he is such a nice polite young man). Growing up many people said I was too hard on him. Now it is clear to them I was right. A return to “traditional, conservative” values is the path young parents need to take, since in many ways it is too late for this “lost generation”,

    • Carl

      “My son was raised with traditional Southern values (by addressing adults
      as yes sir, no ma’am, he was constantly reminded of his place as a

      Not all adults deserve to be treated with respect. A moniker is just that a moniker. Using sir or maam when addressing adults is just conditioning by you as parents. It has little meaning except making you feel like you raised a good little soldier/puppet. While done with good intentions what did you hope to accomplish by making your son do this with strangers he did not know?

      In today’s morally decaying society teaching your children to blindly not question the authority of an adult can be trouble as not all adults have the best interest of children at heart.

      You can teach a child to respect their elders but you also have to teach them that sometimes you have to do the opposite.

      This is the lesson that needs to be taught because subservant children grow up to be adults that just go along to get along and are too afraid to stand up to those them deem with more authority, power, klout, what have you.

      The world is not black and white. There are always exceptions.

      • Wakulla Prepper

        Carl, teaching a child to offer respect doesn’t mean the lessons to learn how to decide who deserves on-going respect don’t follow. Many doors have been opened for my son due to being polite, and respectful, including a great job where the employer sought him out based on another firm’s brief meeting of him.

  • pricket

    EVERYONE in these posts wants to blame somebody, and there is more then enough blame to go around. We are in decline and times will get tougher. We created what we have at a unique time in history when we were able to rape the earth of all its easy wealth and spoil ourselves and our families without concern for the future. So much wealth and universal greed that the laws of responsible growth as individuals and civic duty did not matter, we had, perceived we had, or felt we would have sufficient power and wealth to pay someone to clean up the messes we were making and there would be no real hard or painful consequences. We are all responsible by omission and commission, and until we start baby step by baby step acting responsibly to our families and communities, we will fall faster than slipping on owl s–t into a society of utter fear and universal destruction where life is unfit to live for anyone. As Shakespeare wrote, “a plague on both your house” the just and unjust in destruction together.

  • Backdoor Barry

    This generation of youth voted for the most anti American president in the history of America, who wanted to fundamentally transform our way of life… Well, you got your transformation… Enjoy the hope and change suckers!!

    • Jeremy

      Not everyone. I am 30 years old and did not fall for the Obama lie. I tried to get the word out, and told hundreds of my classmates and colleagues about Obama. Most did not listen unfortunately, and they voted for hope and change. I do believe more young people are waking up.
      It has been a struggle to scrap together my life, but I am scraping it together. Right now I a professor for an American university’s study abroad program in China, and have done this for two years.
      Most in my generation were maleducated, including myself unfortunately (did my own work and research), and with my students I emphasize a classical, applications and principles based education. Start with principles and beliefs on how to learn, and teach the student how to apply that information.
      In my opinion the only way our world grows out of this debt is to provide value for other people. My goal is to teach students how to be self-sustaining, develop their ideas, develop entrepreneurial skills, and as a result build a life.
      I see many in my generation crushed by diminished hope and expectations, and while it has been so hard in my life to build (worked 4 jobs at one point to pay student loans, many many months with a negative balance in my account), I take it as my duty to not give in to despair. I have looked it in the face many times, and have looked back into the blackness, gave it the finger, and kept going. Maybe I can impart my knowledge to my brothers and sisters.
      I reflect many times, and sit here now, with good savings, paying down my student loan debt (which is gigantic), will marry next year (engaged), and will take the bar exam next week. I have worked so hard, and feel like a champion. Maybe I can inspire more people to keep fighting on.

      • Backdoor Barry

        The battle to save America is going to need young patriots like you. I sure hope you come back home some day and help fight to save our republic. Good luck to you.

        • Jeremy

          I want to come back, and after living within a country that has no liberty and freedom, it is imperative that we return to these principles. The need is desperate.

      • Priszilla

        So, instead for Obama you voted for Nader?

        Or someone from the Republicans you got you into this mess in the first place?

        • Jeremy

          What is your problem? You are as stupid as they come, and are not worth any more of my attention.
          If you had a problem with what I said, then it is YOU that has the problem.

        • Jeremy

          I don’t know whether to shake my head or just laugh in your face.
          I’ll choose to just laugh.

    • JustanOguy

      And the latest surveys taken for this generation shows that they would not elect him today and almost half of them would vote to have him impeached.

      They admit it was a mistake and feel they were lied to.

      That’s a BIG HUGE indicator that there is a lot of hope for this generation.

      Our biggest mistakes growing up are our best learning experiences.

      This generation has learned something huge from their mistake and many of them know it. It’s going to be a long time before any Politician has any automatic trust and that’s the way it should be.

      If only Baby Boomers would have learned..

  • Bubba Johnson

    A Secret to Success
    Live within your means always, and save some of your money always. Which is not what our government is teaching us.
    They would rather you borrow and buy a house with no money down and no income verification. We know what happened after that great government idea. Interest rates so low savers are punished for saving their money. SPEND SPEND SPEND. If you dont have any money the government will give it to you.

    • Zenithon

      I always tell young people to live below their means. When your ready, buy a small house way below what the bank says you can afford and get a 15 year loan. If you can afford to pay more each month, do it. In 10 years or so, you can buy a larger house if you need it and either rent the first house out or sell it to help buy the next one. Start small and build your way up.

  • DiscouragedOne

    My 27 year old son is still at home, and can’t find a job although he has a degree.

  • Quagmeyer

    Wow! This article couldn’t be more correct from what I’ve seen. Most of my friends either live at home off mommy and daddy or their ma and pay gave them their old house. A lack of motivation and enabling are mostly to blame but yes it is tough to make it on your own nowadays.

    • Annette Smith

      Who wants their kid living down at the local mission? I know folks that have had their kids move back, and they have a good time. Didn’t families use to have more than one generation living under the roof a long time ago? Families took care of each other. There is nothing wrong with that.

    • Rene Girrard

      Who in their right mind wants to live with mommy & daddy when you could have a good job and be independent?

  • bobcat

    Most of the high paying jobs are gone and many of those were in manufacturing. Entire industries have been outsourced and with them the future of our young people.

    There were probably close to 50,000 people employed in electronics manufacturing in the RTP NC area 30 years ago. Now it’s maybe a couple thousand at most. I retrained and went into software but now I’m nearly retirement age. I was in on the tail end of the good times. Careers like I had aren’t available to most young people anymore.

    Jobs which pay enough to enable people to live independently are scarce today. It’s little wonder so many people live with their parents. And not just in their 30s. I know people in their 40s and 50s living with their parents. One of my friends lives with his mother and he’s 50!

    • Rene Girrard

      bobcat you nailed it! I’ve been an electronics tech (RF Tech) all my life, and I know exactly what you are talking about. But there are very few people who will even talk about this–especially the media and our politicians in Washingotn, DC. Most ALL electronics mfg has been shipped to China or Mexico. The jobs still here, they want Asians and Mexicans to work and not white guys.

  • Alasha

    Good job on Dr. Stan tonight, Michael. So proud of you. You articulate the thoughts well. Godspeed!

  • none

    GOOD NEWS Michael:
    Their kids are living better than there parents did!
    Have you ever seen the movie “Failure to Launch”?
    These kids living at home are geniuses.

  • dadelaw

    This is a DEPRESSION, for Heaven’s sake. In all the comments (and the article itself) which I have read, the word “depression” doesn’t come up once.

    • Annette Smith

      dadelaw, you are so correct. It is a depression. Thank you!

    • cannuck21

      Absolutely correct. I suspect that few young people once they reach a certain age would willingly want to live with their parents. Some would but perhaps not all. When this economy become even worse then it is good that young people have a home to stay in. Families can and should support each other during hard times.

    • Mondobeyondo

      You are absolutely correct.
      No one wants to (publicly) admit it. But we are going through a depression.

      • JustanOguy

        Yes it is. Don’t know about you but everybody I knew that was a young adult during the great depression ended up being very savvy savers and died fairly wealthy. When my Grandfather passed away, he was living in a trailer watching an old TV (that he often bragged about being able to buy for $50 used) and driving a beat up old pickup truck but his net worth was in the $4 Million dollar range. Never had a credit card or loan of any kind and put 5 kids through some pretty good big name colleges.

        Unfortunately with all the Government get you into debt programs going on today, many of today’s young adults that do have decent jobs don’t know what it means to live within their means.

        Then I’ve come across others that are very savvy..

        The Gen Y generation is a HUGE demographic… anybody that really knows anything about Economic Demographics isn’t going to clump them all together because 30% or so are living at home.

        Just because some of them are living at home doesn’t automatically classify them as losers… they could be working and SAVING money to buy their own place instead of doing the rent trap with today’s poor economic conditions. (After paying rent and utilities, not much left over and you are trapped renting forever because you can’t save enough for a down payment.)

        Everybody also has to remember that it was just a few years ago when the biggest real estate bubble the country has ever seen popped. Think that has something to do with their Psychology and knowing that real estate is not always a good investment?

        • JustanOguy

          And business wise… I’m starting to come across some of the savers out of this generation that do have money…. from saving money when living at home and building a little something up. A complete joy to work with.

          Enough so to start making some changes to cater to them a little more than the many of the whining Baby Boomers that are spoiled (to be polite) and demand instant gratification.

          • Inheritancebuilder

            My wife and I were just talking about pulling our kids out of a private Christian school because they are moving more towards the contemporary public school mentality. I was just telling her that if we home schooled we could actually teach our kids what WE think is appropriate, relevant, and practical . In other words, real world skills and knowledge that prepare kids for the REAL world. We want our kids to be educated and trained by hands-on duplicatable resourcefulness and practicality that they can go anywhere and find a job! It might not be a luxurious job, but I know if I have my say, they will never “be forsaken nor begging for bread.”

          • PressedEarth

            Do it. Hard but worth it. Homeschoolers rock.

          • Toes

            That is encouraging. I hope those “savers” you mention are saving in something of value, and not just plunking currency into a bank account or the stock market.

    • FirstGarden

      Dade, you are correct. To split hairs, it is known as “a *contained* depression.”
      In 1929, the financial collapse was followed by an economic collapse. One by one, all the major pillars fell, as the government looked on.

      Today, we have a proactive Gov’t with a vast amount of tools to control and manipulate things. The downside, of course, is that we delay the inevitable.. more & more & more…

      Most insidious of all, is the way high level people are systematically looting the system for their own gain, before letting it all fall. I suspect there’s multi trillions stashed offshore in safe (?) havens.

      I would think assets like gold and real estate would be high in their portfolios. Otherwise, how else would they minimize the losses of inflation?

    • FirstGarden


      Recession – when your neighbor is out of work.
      Depression – when YOU are out of work.

    • Toes

      Hey, if you call this a “Depression”, then you must be a racist. No way this first black POTUS could get tagged with that without it being someone else’s fault.

      • Kat

        FYI – the depression (i.e., stock market crash, real estate bubble burst) started in 2008. Just in case you forgot, President Obama wasn’t inaugurated until 2009.

  • I’m from Asia, its a normal thing to stay with parents here, Dividing a strong family is one of elites propaganda. They want you to get out and do corporate slavery and get in debt with home loans, car loans etc etc.

    Its a good thing you live with your parents.

    I know all my friends are living with parents even after getting married taking care of them, while parents take care of kids and home. The kids know what grandparents really mean.

    Thanks to living with my parents, I don’t have any debt AT ALL…I’m self employed, work from home…I travel to other Asian countries easily on long vacations. I started late just because I NEVER WANTED TO DO CORPORATE SLAVERY….

    Everyone is happy now. Even when you get a job, stick with your family. American needs to learn this from other cultures.

    Trust me in this as a guy living all his life with parents. ITS REALLY A GOOD THING….talking about privacy, how about two months vacation in Thai resort with your GF that you would have paid for your home, car loans if you lived alone.

    When you with your family..the rewards are 100 fold…

    • Jeremy

      I live in China now, but am able to come back to the states about 5 months per year. I stay with my parents and love it. My fiancé and I plan to live near our parents, when we live in either the US or China.

  • DJohn1

    I think the Bible says that children should live at home until they get married. Might be a little bit of wisdom there. It certainly makes better financial sense.
    I suggest we have taken a wrong path in that industry insists people have a college education to get a good job. I suggest further that we had a better system when everyone did not have to have that level of education to get a job.
    There is a systematic glass ceiling against people going any further in life without a college education.
    What industry often ignores is experience vs. formal education.
    There are two levels. Even in service you have the “officer” ranks and the “Non-commissioned officer” ranks. The entire military is run on a day to day basis by Sergeants in the military. The day of the experienced officer ended formally with the end of world war II. What sergeants have is experience in their fields far in excess of what any college educated officer has. Smart upper rank officers know this and have a fast track to the men and women with experience vs wet behind the ears new officers.
    The colleges are guilty of encouraging debt as an answer to getting enrolled in their educational facilities. They encourage credit cards as a way of life. Now why would they steer all those children into debt? They are a rat based institution that encourages a lot of things we do not as a people believe in. To go against those that encourage this behavior is suicide in college. They have a grade system based on what the teachers think as much as any skill level picked up.
    This is all done with the discipline of those that do as I say make money and those that don’t do as I say will not. The entire system is set up on student labor with little or no pay.
    I have a brother intelligent enough to go to college and get a degree. He made approximately half of what I did when he got a job at the college. (I served a 6 year apprenticeship and it was full of on-the-job experience in learning my trade.)
    WE as a people have allowed all of this to happen. The current colleges are there to bleed the people, the commoners, into debts that are often impossible to ever pay off. Industry and the military have set up rules so a “good” job is only possible with a “college degree” and that ceiling is encouraged at every level of government.
    The other alternative is to find something you are good at and go into business for yourself. Only this is set up so most people within 5 years fail. The chief villain here is the rules of the IRS that consistantly discriminate against small business succeeding in our economy. Without the shield of a bigger business taking over the paperwork of the IRS it is almost impossible for someone to succeed as it stands right now. The Walmarts of this world do not want competition.
    This didn’t start over night. It won’t end anywhere soon. But what has to happen is we have to make it possible for people to make a living without being part of a large corporate structure.
    Not everyone needs a college education. Not everyone needs to be an officer class individual. Not everyone has to be a chief. We need workers as well as bosses.
    What normally has been happening is after 20 years as a boss, they let you go. They have fresher, newer inexperienced individuals to hire. At 50 you are a liability and they want to get rid of you before you get sick!
    Never mind that 20 years experience is saving a company millions. That is old school thought.
    The one thing wrong with this thinking is when they get rid of all the experienced people the company itself fails.

  • Mondobeyondo

    One more time…
    We are in a depression.

    There is no FDR – or anyone else – to lead us through this time around. If President Obama inspires you – well, good for you. But the American people need encouragement more than national health care.

    The world is starting to come apart. Look at what’s happening in Ukraine.

    Our children are staying at home more and more, because (one theory…) home is where the heart is. The kids see what’s happening around them, and they don’t like it. After all, it’s so much fun to venture out on your own, in a world that’s falling apart…

  • Hammerstrike

    The tradition of individual homes is a recent one, they are the luxury of a bygone era, of the America you knew but which is dead now.

    So no, they should not be spending on new cars, new apartments, new iphone and all that shiz unless it is going to be real usefull to them.

  • Piglet

    It used to be that remaining home with one’s parents was embarrassing, but that has changed over time. There’s no more shame. I well remember an Office Depot employee in her mid-20s happily telling me about a decade ago, long before this latest recession, that she lived with her parents. She added that all of her friends were doing the same, and she was quite happy with the situation and had no reason to change.

    [Only about one out of every five 27-year-olds owns a home at this point, and an astounding 80 percent of all 27-year-olds are in debt.]

    To those of us who face debt, this is terrible. To those on the receiving end of those debt payments, this is great news, and they’re looking for ways to go from 80% to 100%


    Who is going to buy the homes? Who is going to underwrite the Welfare State? Who is going to pay for the Social Security, the Medicare? Who can afford to have children? How can young people do this with no decent job and massive education debt? They can’t. (My frank advice to young people today is to head to North Dakota. Think outside the box. The tried and true no longer works.)
    As you ponder that consider the Ruling Elites, Demos and RINOs, are all excited about Comprehensive Immigration Reform. Yes, what a wonderful time to legalize another 30MM illegals, who will promptly bring another 30MM illegals in via chain migration!! This will change the country forever. Additionally, the Elites are contemplating the Pacific Trade Agreement. Yes, More Free Trade! More massive trade deficits. More jobs going overseas. More Debt Slavery to China, which has effectively made us a Colony. Just to keep things at a boil, OBAMA CARE! With all this going on is there any doubt why young people have moved back home?
    The only reason we do not have insurrection in the streets a la Kiev is because of Food Stamps. Yet, at some point, the levee will break. The government knows this. This explains the ammo purchases by the government, the tanks, the NSA, the IRS and Homeland Security.
    This past week, Mr. Income Inequality, hit the links at two of the most exclusive golf courses in the country. I heard Michelle and the girls hit the slopes. Mum is the word from the MSM!
    The next two elections will tell the story. Our last chance to turn this around before the America we love slips away forever.

    • Bubba Johnson

      Vote for conservatives and stay home if your only choice is a RINO.


        Spot on! We need another Reagan. A Thatcher. Where is he or her?

        • FirstGarden

          In the better place. 🙂
          We’re in the worse place.

        • Bubba Johnson

          Ted Cruz Rand Paul come to my mind.

        • Mike Smithy

          The optimist in me tries to keep it in perspective. Without Carter there could have been no Reagan. Without Obama the next great conservative cannot emerge.

          • XSANDIEGOCA

            How true!

        • Mondobeyondo

          The liberals keep voting them out. Ron Paul would have made a great President, IMHO. But each time he runs, he’s labeled a “lunatic” and only gets a fraction of the total vote.

        • Gay Veteran

          remember that the national debt really started to go up under Reagan. and Reagan raised Social Security taxes which hid the true size of the annual federal deficit

        • Priszilla

          Those elected are representing those who elect them.

          That’s why every people has the government it deserves.

          • XSANDIEGOCA

            We deserve better.

          • Priszilla

            How so? You always elect the same two parties that get you in this mess.

            One is spending on wars, the other one is starting new wars or not ending them.

            And you wonder where the money goes?

    • Drud

      Agree with everything until the last paragraph. We may not make it until the next election, let alone 2020. Our “last chance to turn this around” with the vote was in 1992. I do not wish to simply be contradictory, we must get past the idea of voting as any kind of solution. It can no longer work. Elections are rigged, both sides bought and paid for, third parties made to look foolish by the propaganda streaming 24 hour MSM. BUT, we do have the power. We simply need people to wake up and begin the civil disobedience in earnest, starting by hitting them where it hurts: the pocketbook.

      • Bubba Johnson

        I agree but do not forget about people like Ted Cruz.

        • garand555

          Ted Cruz is a banker shill. His wife is a Goldman Sachs muckety-muck. Think he is going to do anything to jeopardize her job? I sure don’t. He says a lot of good things, but I do not believe that he is sincere.

          • Bubba Johnson

            He lead the charge against socialize medicine and the government shut down. Pretty good work for a politician.

          • garand555

            And that was all politics that accomplished nothing. Did it kill Obamacare? Are you paying less in taxes than you would have otherwise? Do not trust the man. He is a shill for the banking industry. One thing that people need to realize is that despite the bickering between red team and blue team, a change of team still leads largely to continuity of policy regardless of the rhetoric. It is all a kabuki dance.

          • Bubba Johnson

            Sounds as though you have given up on all conservatives. Anyone you do approve of?

          • garand555

            In national office? Nope. We have the best congress money can buy.


        I really can’t argue. I wish I could but I can’t. I still have some hope but only some. The people must decide. Will they wake up?

    • Gay Veteran

      fixed your sentence: The last 8 elections told the story

  • Selaretus

    The student debt problem goes beyond the young. Many older displaced workers due to ‘downsizing’ or jobs off-shoring (thank you CEO’s!) were forced or encouraged to go back to school to get a degree. Of course, now that they have, there are no jobs waiting for them, and if there ARE jobs, the young HR managers don’t want to hire ‘old’ people: too old to work, too young to retire. So, there will likely be a reverse empty nest syndrome occurring: parents coming to live with their kids. Either way, the Fed will end up buying up loan defaults with toilet paper money to make the system appear solvent; to dissuade the bubble collapse. One giant clusterf***.

  • whodowetrust

    And how many voted for Obama? I can’t feel too sorry for them if they did.

    • Mike Smithy

      Sometimes sheeple get what they deserve.

  • Mike Smithy

    Sheeple scoffed at Ross Perot in his Independent run for President in 1992. He warned us of the dire economic conditions that lay ahead should America stay on the same trajectory. Did we listen? Nope! I fear that it is now too late. It is all over but the crying and gnashing of teeth.

  • Naples Fl

    What made America great? Manufacturing jobs. No manufacturing jobs = no middle class.

    • Bubba Johnson

      True, the individual built America. Looks like they want US to be one for all and all for one?

  • 2Gary2

    We live in a country filled to the brim with ignorance, in fact the cup
    runneth over. The main constituency of the GOP constantly without fail
    votes against their respective self interests.

    • Mike Smithy

      You are only partially correct. Evidence clearly indicates that liberals are traditionally the selfish ones, because they always vote in their self interests. If that means stealing from the producers via government redistribution to attain what they have not earned, then yes, they are selfish and self absorbed. Need more evidence? Poll after poll indicates that liberals, progressives, communists, socialists are much more stingy that conservatives when it comes donating their own money charitable causes. Conservatives like to choose their causes and deeply resent the government choosing causes on their behalf.

      • 2Gary2

        more conservative stupidity:

        We estimate the number of deaths attributable to the lack of
        Medicaid expansion in opt-out states at between 7,115 and 17,104.
        Medicaid expansion in opt-out states would have resulted in 712,037
        fewer persons screening positive for depression and 240,700 fewer
        individuals suffering catastrophic medical expenditures. Medicaid
        expansion in these states would have resulted in 422,553 more diabetics
        receiving medication for their illness, 195,492 more mammograms among
        women age 50-64 years and 443,677 more pap smears among women age 21-64.
        Expansion would have resulted in an additional 658,888 women in need of
        mammograms gaining insurance, as well as 3.1 million women who should
        receive regular pap smears..

        • Mike Smithy

          I find your commie stats highly dubious. Do you get your talking points from MSLSD?

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      YEA! The Nazis told the Jews the ghetto and the camps were for their own good too.
      The answer has NOTHING to do with what you advocate Gary. The ‘final solution’, sure, but ‘the answer’, not so much.
      You’re completely clueless.

      • 2Gary2

        I am not sure where your comment came from. I simply pointed out the conservatives being so dumb that they regularly vote against their self interests.

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          And I merely told you that you’re dumb.

  • 2Gary2

    Michael-is that you in the picture for this post? it sure looks like you…

  • piccadillybabe

    A 4-year degree is pretty useless these days. What kids need are basic skills that a technical education will provide them. If I had kids, I would steer them in that direction of getting good technical skills. Given the state of affairs in this country, they may even have a hard time getting a job with a basic-skill education but the odds are much more in their favor. At least if they have to live at home until they are 40, they can earn their keep by contributing to maintenance and upkeep in the home.

    • Mondobeyondo

      For some advanced professions, you do need a 4 year degree. Others, not so much.

      My dad was able to completely take apart a carburetor and put it back together again, and he didn’t graduate high school. I can’t do that. (Granted, cars are much different today than 40 years ago…)

  • Marc

    What is wrong with multi-generational living?
    i see no Problem in it.

  • Rob W

    “An important milestone in adulthood is establishing independence from one’s parents, including finding a job, a place to live and, for most, a spouse or partner, and starting one’s own family. However, there are potential roadblocks on the path to independence that may force young adults to live with their parents longer, including a weak job market, the high cost of living, significant college debt, and helping care for an elderly or disabled parent.”
    I’m not sure I agree with this idea. For most people, for most of human history, a multi-generational household was the norm. Until the great migrations into the cities, most people never even thought about having a place without mom and dad around, and maybe even some grands, too, if you were lucky.

  • My sister is definitely in the perpetual adolescence camp. She’s almost 30 and her days revolve around playing world of warcraft and knitting in my parents attic. I honestly don’t understand how anyone could be happy with living at home past 18… I couldn’t wait to get out and take advantage of my freedom.

  • FirstGarden

    I know this is off-topic, but if you’re weighing decisions about location, here’s another good reason to consider a rural homestead, as opposed to Big Metro.

    Eminent Domain: Being Abused?
    Is Seizure Of Private Property Always In Public’s Interest?

    Just about everyone knows that under a process called eminent domain, the government can (and does) seize private property for public use – to build a road, a school or a courthouse. But did you know the government can also seize your land for private use if they can prove that doing it will serve what’s called “the public good”?

    Cities across the country have been using eminent domain to force people off their land, so private developers can build more expensive homes and offices that will pay more in property taxes than the buildings they’re replacing.

    Under eminent domain, the government buys your property, paying you what’s determined to be fair market value.

    But now, people who don’t want to sell their homes at any price – just to see their land go to another private owner – are fighting back. Correspondent Mike Wallace reports on this story, which first aired last fall.Jim and Joanne Saleet are refusing to sell the home they’ve lived in for 38
    years. They live in a quiet neighborhood of single-family houses in Lakewood, Ohio, just outside Cleveland.

    The City of Lakewood is trying to use eminent domain to force the Saleets out to make way for more expensive condominiums. But the Saleets are telling the town, “Hell no! They won’t go.”

    “The bottom line is this is morally wrong, what they’re doing here. This is our home. And we’re going to
    stay here. And I’m gonna fight them tooth and nail. I’ve just begun to fight,” says Jim Saleet.

    “We talked about this when we were dating. I used to point to the houses and say, ‘Joanne, one of these days we’re going to have one of these houses.’ And I meant it. And I worked hard.”

    Jim Saleet worked in the pharmaceutical industry, paid off his house and then retired. Now, he and his wife plan to spend the rest of their days there, and pass their house on to their children.

    But Lakewood’s mayor, Madeleine Cain, has other plans.
    She wants to tear down the Saleets’ home, plus 55 homes around it, along with four apartment buildings and more than a dozen businesses.

    So that private developers can build high-priced condos, and a high-end shopping mall, and thus raise Lakewood’s property tax base.

    The mayor told 60 Minutes that she sought out a developer for the project because Lakewood’s aging tax base has been shrinking and the city simply needs more money.

    “This is about Lakewood’s future. Lakewood cannot survive without a strengthened tax base. Is it right to consider this a public good?
    Absolutely,” says the mayor, who admits that it’s difficult and unfortunate that the Saleets are being asked to give up their home.

    The Saleets live in an area called Scenic Park, and because it is so scenic, it’s a prime place to build upscale condominiums. With great views, over the Rocky River, those condos will be a cinch to sell.But the condos can’t go up unless the city can remove the Saleets and their
    neighbors through eminent domain. And to legally invoke eminent domain, the city had to certify that this scenic park area is, really, “blighted.”

    “We’re not blighted. This is an area that we absolutely love. This is a close-knit, beautiful neighborhood. It’s
    what America’s all about,” says Jim Saleet. “And, Mike, you don’t know how humiliating this is to have people tell you, ‘You live in a blighted area,’ and how degrading this is.”

    “The term ‘blighted’ is a statutory word,” says Mayor Cain. “It is, it really doesn’t have a lot to do with whether or not your home is painted. …A statutory term is used to describe an area. The question is whether or not that area can be used for a higher and better use.”

    But what’s higher and better than a home? “The term ‘blight’ is used to describe whether or not the structures generally in an area meet today’s standards,” says Cain.

    And it’s the city that sets those standards, so Lakewood
    set a standard for blight that would include most of the homes in the neighborhood. A home could be considered blighted, says Jim Saleet, if it doesn’t have the following: three bedrooms, two baths, an attached two-car garage and central air.

    “This community’s over 100 years old. Who has all those things? That’s the criteria. And it’s ridiculous,” says Jim Saleet. “And, by the way, we got up at a meeting and told the mayor and all seven council members, their houses are
    blighted, according to this criteria.”

    Cain admits that her house doesn’t have two bathrooms, a two-car garage and the lot size is less than 5,000 square feet.

    The Saleets may live in a cute little neighborhood, but without those new condos, the area won’t produce enough property taxes to satisfy the mayor and city council.

    “That’s no excuse for taking my home. My home is not for sale. And if my home isn’t safe, nobody’s home is safe, in the whole country,” says Jim Saleet. “Not only Ohio. But this
    is rampant all over the country. It’s like a plague.” Dana
    Berliner and Scott Bullock are attorneys at a libertarian non-profit group called The Institute for Justice, which has filed suit on behalf of the Saleets against the City of Lakewood. They claim that taking private property this way is unconstitutional.

    “This is a nationwide epidemic,” says Berliner. “We have documented more than 10,000 instances of government taking property from one person to give it to another in just the last five years.”

    “It is fundamentally wrong, and contrary to the Constitution for the government to take property from one private owner, and hand it over to another private owner, just because the government thinks that person is going to make more productive use of the land,” says Bullock.

    “Everyone knows that property can be taken for a road. But nobody thinks that property can be taken to give it to their neighbor or the large business down the street for their economic benefit,” adds Berliner. “People are shocked
    when they hear that this is going on around the country.”

    Andit’s not just people’s homes that are the targets in these eminent domain cases. The Institute for Justice has also filed suit against theCity of Mesa, Ariz., to save Randy Bailey’s Brake Repair Shop – the shop he got from his father and hopes to someday pass on to his son.

    The City of Mesa, citing the need for “redevelopment,” is trying to force Bailey to relocate to make way for an Ace Hardware Store that would look better and pay more taxes.

    “Redevelopment to me means work with existing people who are there and redevelop. Not, ‘You get out! We’re
    bringing this guy in,'” says Bailey, whose business has been on the same corner for more than 30 years.

    Business has been awesome, Bailey says. But now, he says they’re going to turn his business into dirt. In fact, the city has “made dirt” out of three restaurants and four businesses that once stood on a five-acre lot.

    “And it’s not just business properties that they’re going this on. You know, they wiped out eight people’s homes over here. Your home ain’t even safe,” says Bailey, who told 60 Minutes that his neighbors let the city buy them out. But he’s refusing to sell: “I’m standing in their way. I’m their thorn in their side.”

    And he’s a thorn in the side of Ken Lenhart, who owns the Ace Hardware Store a few blocks away. Lenhart wants a much bigger store. He could have negotiated with Bailey, but instead, he convinced the City of Mesa to try to buy Bailey’s land through eminent domain and then sell it to

    “The City of Mesa wants to move Mr. Bailey about a block
    away, and from what I understand it’s gonna be a new building, new equipment, moving expenses and everything set up for him,” says Lenhart. “I don’t see how Mr. Bailey is gonna get hurt.”

    “You can’t replace a business being in the same location. This place was built in 1952 as a brake and front-end shop,” says Bailey. “I don’t care where you move it in the City of Mesa, it would never be the same.”

    So Bailey went to Lenhart looking for a way to stay on his corner. “I tried to go to him and see if we couldn’t work something out on this. And he told me, ‘No, there ain’t room for you there. We’re gonna let the city just take care of you,'” says Bailey.

    Lenhart admits that he never tried to negotiate with Bailey: “It happens all over the country. In practically any town you want to go to, they’re redeveloping their town centers. Now, we are going to sit in Mesa, Arizona and have our town center decay? As a citizen of Mesa, I don’t want that to

    But Bailey says his business was on private property, and not for sale: “If I’d had a ‘For Sale’ sign out there, it would have been a whole different deal. And for them to come in and tell me how much my property’s worth and for me to get out because they’re bringing in somebody else when I own the land is unfounded to me. It doesn’t even sound like the United States.” And this isn’t happening just in small towns. In New York City, just a few blocks from Times Square, New York State has forced a man to sell a corner that his family owned for more than 100 years. And what’s going up instead? A courthouse? A school? Nope. The new headquarters of The New York Times.

    The world’s most prestigious newspaper wants to build a
    new home on that block, but Stratford Wallace and the block’s other property owners didn’t want to sell. Wallace told 60 Minutes that the newspaper never tried to negotiate with him. Instead, The Times teamed up with a major real estate developer, and together they convinced New York State to use eminent domain to force Wallace out. How? By declaring the block blighted.

    “I challenge them,” says Wallace. “This is not blighted property.”

    But New York State’s Supreme Court disagreed and ruled that the newspaper’s new headquarters would eliminate blight – and that even though a private entity (The New York Times) is the main beneficiary, improving the block would benefit the public.

    Executives from The New York Times wouldn’t talk to 60 Minutes about it on camera.

    Back in Lakewood, Ohio, Jim and Joanne Saleet are still waiting for their court decision. Most of their neighbors have agreed to sell if the project goes ahead. But the Saleets, plus a dozen others, are hanging tough.

    “I thought I bought this place. But I guess I just leased it, until the city wants it,” says Jim Saleet. “That’s what makes me very angry. This is my dream home. And I’m gonna fight for it.” He fought, and he won. In separate votes, Lakewood residents rejected the proposed development, removed the “blight” label from the Saleets’ neighborhood, and voted Mayor Cain out of office.

    In Mesa, Ariz., Randy Bailey can keep his brake shop right where it is. The week after this report aired, Arizona’s Court of Appeals ruled that turning his land over to a hardware store would not be a proper use of eminent domain.

    But in New York City, tenants and owners have been forced
    off their land so The New York Times can begin building its new headquarters.

  • Arne Saknussemm

    After I graduated college thirty years ago, I would never have considered moving back in with my parents. I would have felt like a loser and a failure. Had some rough times, even living in my car for a while, but that’s life, something I think a lot of these young people are missing out on.

    If I was in my twenty’s now I would give serious consideration to getting the hell out of the US. There’s no future in the third world police state the US is rapidly becoming.

    • Kyle

      Yeah I hate America myself. Born and raised here. It’s been hell

  • Cleft Asunder

    I’m a 32 year old living with my parents, and I disagree partly with this article. I’ve read other articles and they always scapegoat the economy or bad parenting, with ARE factors, but the main reason men (and not so much women) are living at home with their parents is because of poor health. If you’re healthy, you’re motivated and fearless and nothing can stop you, not even a bad economy. Buddha said it right: “Without health, life is not life. It is a state of languor and suffering, an image of death.”

    American men and women are not healthy these days, but women end up reversing their condition because the diets they go on help them get out of it. They are less likely to consume alcohol and eat poorly and more likely to cook for themselves and eat a diet with more antioxidents and such. How often do you see an american male that DOESN’T have a bloated stomach and pale skin? How often do you see beautiful and motivated women? More often than you see hansom healthy men! Men are chronically ill in this country, from mercury poisoning, wrong diet, alcohol consumption, energy drinks (which mess you up more than alcohol) and they are borderline numb/autistic sometimes because of it, oscillating between periods of motivation and productivity to periods of inactivity where projects and ideas get shelved for long periods of time due to languor.

    Now this is where you say, “suck it up and be a man. You gotta fight for health! Go out exercising, get a physical job, and be done with complaining already! ” Actually, there isn’t a single guy out there who hasn’t don’t exactly that, only to end up in the same hole he was in because he can’t shake his malidy. So when you tell him something like that, he probably imagines breaking your nose.

    I have some optimism for myself because my health is improving, but a lot of psychological damage has been done. When you’ve tried your hardest and failed as many times as me, you end up very resistant to trying any more, and there is an undercurrent of resistance to working in the world. Imagine being at a job interview where you have to convince the employer that you’re the man for the job, giving him the firm handshake and look in the eye, when you know that you definitely AREN’T the man for the job because work never works out for you. Fun times! I’ve lost/been fired from many jobs, but not because I didn’t try my hardest.

    • Frank Bell

      The condition is called:

      Learned helplessness.

      • Don Scott

        The condition is called:

        Republican mean-spiritedness.

  • Scared Economist

    Tons of jobs available in North Dakota. The owner of BMI Energy Services was on the radio the other day saying he needs 100 people immediately– no experience necessary — he will train. If you want to drive trucks he’ll get you your CDL. There are dozens of truck driver jobs that pay $56 an hour or more unfilled.
    When asked what the unemplyment rate was in North Dakota he laughed and said if you aren’t working in North Dakota it’s because you don’t want to work.
    A guy called into the radio show and confirmed he went up there right out of high school and made $80,000 in 6 months.

    • FirstGarden

      I’d love to see his W-2.

    • T

      Here’s my fear- are all they are hiring is illegals?

  • JustanOguy

    And How did all of this start to begin with to create today’s poor economic conditions where the country is in debt up to it’s ears?

    Here’s a Clue: The Instant Gratification Generation that had it easy growing up and blew all of the money they made AND got in debt up to their ears.

  • chris

    -Student loan debt accounted for 3.1 percent of all consumer debt in 2003. Today, it accounts for 9.4 percent of all consumer debt.

    Basically what this shows is that the US economy is being artificially pumped up by youngsters taking on debt and that this is the real reason they are being encouraged to get higher qualifications. It is easy to get economic growth if you can get people to go into debt and spend the money into the present economy. This is where a large amount of the ‘growth’ has come from in recent years.

    In addition keeping people in debt for years results in a more pliable population willing to take whatever rubbish jobs they can and put up with fascist management conditions.

  • Guest

    Nothing against my parents but before I would have lived with them at age 35 I would have worked for minimum wage and lived in a trailer.

  • Sandbagger

    I wonder how many parents will make a sacrifice for their children and place most of their own things up for sale in order to pay off those student loans?

    Especially for those who own their home, selling it and downsizing considerably NOW and using that money to help the kids early in life (an early inheritance) so they can get on their feet in this horrible economy my be the only way to launch them.

    If you’re a parent of one of these fail-to-launch kids, look around you. How much do you really need all of your possessions? Would a big estate sale be enough to give your child the breathing room they need? Now may be the only time to help them. With the economy getting worse, if there’s an outright collapse soon, nobody will want to buy used stuff.

    Of course, I’m not proposing a sort of trading of places with your child! I’m suggesting downsizing drastically and living well within your means. Get everyone out of debt.

    Our son is in elementary school and I seriously doubt he will be going to college someday. I don’t know what things will look like by then, but unless something dramatic happens to turn things around, it may not even matter. And that makes me sad for him.

  • Seeker

    More anti Obama comments… I can’t stand Obama and certainly hated Bush. What’s funny is that nobody every mentions the wealthy Bankers, Hedge Fund Managers, Private Equity Firms or the Wealthy Industrialist that shipped the Factories and High Paying Middle Class Jobs out of the country.

    Is it not clear who’s screwing the USA and its people? Blaming illegal immigrants and workers with visas is just strange and misguided. You better worry about the guys that wear Brooks Brothers suits that are coming for your pension. Some guy cutting grass or walking around with a leaf blower is not a threat.

    Your dealing with the same people your grandfather had to fight for higher wages, medical, dental, sick leave and other benefits during the last 80 – 100 years. Now, they want it all back!! You better figure out who the real enemy is and what they want. Clinton, Bush, Obama and the next President just do as they are told.

    If you haven’t figured this out by now, you are certainly doomed because you keep making the same mistakes.

    • FirstGarden

      Based on my own research, the problem is not nationality, but rather, g o v t tax incentives for corporations to hire from target groups, for the sake of building huge voting blocks. That’s the real game here. At least here in Hell-A county.

    • Jeremy

      I have engaged in many anti-Obama comments, but you are exactly right. I would also add that these people want to remove the ladder (for future generations) that they climbed to get to the top.

      • Priszilla

        There is no ladder.

        The middle class is needed as henchmen to keep the lower class in check for the upper class.

        For that they get a few silver pieces.

        • Jeremy

          Boo hoo boo! I have seen that “ladder” in real life; it exists. You may have given up on the world, but I have not.

          • Priszilla

            Yes, sell your soul. Get your 30 pieces of silver.

            But watch your back. The moment you don’t watch, someone will kick that ladder and you’ll be back where you came from.

            You want to invest in something?
            Forget that ladder. Invest in your family.
            Only family will be there for you if that ladder is gone up in smoke.

    • Zoltar

      They took the jobs out of the country because it was more profitable to do so.

      Now, why was it more profitable to do so?

      Higher taxes, and incentives in the ridiculously complex tax code – Politicians

      Labor Unions making unsustainable demands going to government arbitration and getting everything they wanted, even though it was unsustainable. – Government policies and involvement

      Higher energy prices because of government regulation and interference making it more expensive to make products here

      Now, which kind of people in government have promoted these policies, from both political parties?

      Progressives – They are the disease, everything else you mentioned are the symptoms

      • Priszilla

        Of you hate progress so much, would you rather go back to the old days, where you lived on land which belonged to the land lord and had to ask him for permission if you wanted to leave that land for whatever reason.

        Those times when the land lord had the right of the first night with your wife or daughter.

  • pulltheweeds

    go to prison , get a degree in leaf blowing, problem solved.
    yours truly ,

  • Veronica

    What an idiot this Kevin Burgos is. WHY did he have 3 children when he has no ability to support them? IDIOT! I do not feel sorry for him. Get a good job, then have a family. Without a job, don’t do it!

  • FirstGarden

    To the annoyance of my friends on both sides of the aisle. (I’m not on either side),
    please be reminded that the nightmare about to descend upon us is *not* based on the following:

    Capitalism – principles of sound capitalism work.
    (Hyper-capitalism is another story.)

    Collective greed does NOT work. Greed runs rampant in every political system. Measures of corruption, cronyism and oligarchy are found in every country,
    especially in the higher ranks.

    Conservatism – How is it “conservative” to practice wild and fiscally-suicidal money policy?

    Please, let’s try not to confuse value systems with agenda.

    Liberalism – (I know I invite flames for this.) If you care to know, look up “Liberalism” in Wikipedia. You will be shocked.

    Granted, it *has* changed over the decades & centuries.

    It was both Zell Miller and Walter Cronkite who said, “I never left the democratic party. The democratic party left me.”

    And though I was spoon-fed liberalism since infancy, I don’t identify myself as such today. But, dare I suggest that not *all* aspects of liberalism are bad, even by today’s definitions? (At least the dictionary meanings.)
    In fact, some of them sound downright Conservative.

    As such, wouldn’t it make more sense to espouse the redeemable aspects of both values sets, as the common connotations do not do either one justice?

    Oh, and if we are to think that right or left wing is all inherently good or evil (as if all the woes of humankind fall neatly on one side, and one side only), a quick look at our leaders or civil “servants” might be somewhat eye-opening.

    The 50 most obscenely rich congressmen:

    Republicans: 31
    Democrats: 19

    Today’s congress:

    Republicans: 28
    Democrats: 22

    Out of the TOP TEN, 7 are democrats.
    In the SENATE, 8 out of 10 are democrats.

    So, is it really fair to think of one party as all benevolent and the other all scrooges?

    Of course, money is not evil, in and of itself.
    But, WHO do you think they are taking real good care of?

    “Where your treasure is, so shall your heart be also.”

    Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) $220.40 Million
    Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) $193.07 Million
    Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) $81.63 Million
    Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) $76.30 Million
    Rep. Jared Polis (D-Colo.) $65.91 Million
    Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) $55.07 Million
    Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) $52.93* Million
    Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) $45.39 Million
    Rep. Vern Buchanan (R-Fla.) $44.21 Million
    Rep. Jim Renacci (R-Ohio) $35.87* Million
    Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) $35.20 Million
    Rep. Rick Berg (R-N.D.) $21.60* Million
    Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) $21.18 Million
    Rep. Rodney Frelinghuysen (R-N.J.) $20.35 Million
    Sen. James Risch (R-Idaho) $19.78 Million
    Rep. Gary Miller (R-Calif.) $17.45 Million
    Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) $17.00 Million
    Rep. Kenny Marchant (R-Texas) $16.45 Million
    Rep. Nita Lowey (D-N.Y.) $15.46 Million
    Rep. Richard Hanna (R-N.Y.) $13.73** Million
    Rep. Mike Kelly (R-Pa.) $11.90* Million
    Rep. Trent Franks (R-Ariz.) $11.60 Million
    Rep. Scott Rigell (R-Va.) $10.69* Million
    Rep. Diane Black (R-Tenn.) $10.63* Million
    Rep. Tom Petri (R-Wis.) $10.60 Million
    Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) $10.38 Million
    Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) $10.35 Million
    Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) $10.28 Million
    Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.) $10.14 Million
    Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (R-Wis. $10.14***Million
    Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) $9.88 Million
    Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) $9.84 Million
    Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.) $9.43 Million
    Rep. Nan Hayworth (R-N.Y.) $9.35* Million
    Rep. Shelley Berkley (D-Nev.) $9.29 Million
    Sen. Herb Kohl (D-Wis.) $9.23 Million
    Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-Texas) $8.53 Million
    Rep. Blake Farenthold (R-Texas) $8.51* Million
    Rep. John Campbell (R-Calif.) $8.44 Million
    Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) $8.18* Million
    Rep. Steve Pearce (R-N.M.) $8.03* Million
    Sen. John Hoeven (R-N.D.) $7.94* Million
    Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.) $7.93 Million
    Rep. Bill Flores (R-Texas) $7.71* Million
    Sen. Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.) $7.41 Million
    Sen. Kay Hagan (D-N.C.) $7.06 Million
    Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) $6.56 Million
    Sen. Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.) $6.47 Million
    Rep. Randy Neugebauer (R-Texas) $6.21 Million

  • Bubba Johnson

    Dont forget a couple of years at a community college and 2 at your state college is a go way to go. If you want 4 years at a private college you must pay the man.

    • Libsare Ajoke

      +1 for you sir

  • Kim

    I have a 23 year old son that manages a local hotel where we live. He doesn’t make a lot of money. It’s so heat breaking to see him reach out for a dream that is dead. I can’t help him. I can only be here for him when he needs me,

  • BenguluruHuduga

    I think you are being hard on the young people. Fundamentally debt is being taught as a good thing and most kids think its “ok” to get into debt. Whether its student loan or a brand new car loan, they think its fine. What they need is an understanding of exponents and interest rates and how tinkering with interest rates affects their growth potential. Sadly very few school teachers even understand this, let alone students !

  • Priszilla

    People are always told to accept lower wages for the good of the economy.

    And this is what you get.
    High profit today and nobody to buy your products next week.

  • Anonymous

    I agreed with everything right up to the end where you tried to push your own political opinions about morals and “values” (Christian religious extremist buzzwords) in the education system.

    • shazbot

      His political opinions, moral and values (Christian) clearly point to the problem and solution. His views are far from extreme. In fact, they are mainstream. Normal people realize that those like you, are the problem.

  • Luna Prey

    In the past, only the smart would go to college, and get a good degree. Now you have a bunch of unambitious losers going to college so they can get a piece of paper they think will magicaly get them a job.

    College gives you the skills, but I find the huge problem with society is a lack of ambition. A lack of motivation to chase your dreams.

  • krw0928

    I think the reason most kids are living with their parents is because 1)the parents make it easy for them and 2)policies such as being able to stay on your parent’s health insurance til your 26 encourage such things. Can you imagine what would happen if young people were broke, unemployed and out in the streets? There would be riots.

  • christopher

    I came from a no money family. Left my foster home month after high school. Worked 50hrs a week at a grocery store while attending community college. Eventually I ran out of money. I took the plunge and joined the USAF. Best thing I ever did. USAF saved my life. I did what I had to do to survive. I have mixed feelings about kids living at home. Make it too easy on them and they won’t leave. No reason to leave if your watching Dads wide screen and emptying the fridge out. I take resposibility for all my actions and decisions. You can use excuses if you want, it will not change your situation. Some people just don’t get it.

  • Jim Richardson

    You can’t ship all your middle class jobs to Asia. Flood your country with third worlders to drive down the wages of the few real jobs that remain and then act all surprised when your kids remain at home.

    America is a third world country now. Better get used to it.

    • ian

      no we’re not. Travel to 3rd world countries. We have a long way to fall before that happens.

  • A.S.

    It was all done by design. There will never be any salvation to fix anything.

  • Italics Mine

    Is anyone surveying the parents to see how they feel about the kids coming back home, likely living for free, and likely wanting mommy and daddy to take care of them again.

  • beth

    I agree, they are dumb as rocks. I teach 12th grade and they don’t know seasons, multiplication tables, cursive, grammar, their address (seriously, ask any teenager what his or her address is), what to do with the extra penny a customer gives them. In FL, students qualified for Bright Futures scholarships based on GPA and minimal SAT and ACT scores, so grade inflation is expected. If I don’t give them an A or B, then it’s my fault they can’t go to college. As far as I’m concerned, they shouldn’t even receive a diploma. It’s not a soccer trophy, after all. The SAT and ACT bar was raised this year, because too many students were going to college in need of remedial courses and, of course, unable to finish. They quit and were loaded with debt. It’s just another wealth transfer.

  • Bryan Garcia

    I’m one of these young adults im 25 going to be 26 this may. The reason why i still live with my is cause i’m still looking for a job, i really want to move out and be independent, but can’t afford on the count i’m not working at the moment, but i’m currently looking for a job.

  • Andrew

    I hate, despise, loathe the stigma, on how it looks worse in guys than it does in girls if a person is still living at home past a certain age, makes me raging mad that girls have that luxury of not being responsible, c’mon if all of us could be irresponsible and still be able to make a living I’m sure we all would, we work because we have to not because we want to

  • Average white 30 something in

    I respect the author of this article for writing about this important topic. Consider this: the 19th century and the early 20th century definitely experienced changes in technology and economics. We are at a more advanced stage of capitalism whereby the entire world is progressing down the path of population control, 50% of all accepted money in the hands of 85 people in the world, mass advertising and corporate manipulation being shoved down our throats from birth, and you are going to tell me that 18-31 or 30 whatever year olds are simply victims of their own character flaws? What a completely inacurate thing to suggest. Of course, working a job and going to school every single year since I have been in High School is not enough in this economy, now it is because I am a lazy person that I dont have the “motivation” to move out. I swear you idiots really believe what you write without actually talking to people in the world. Unempolyment could be eliminated in one day if the rich pompous a-holes had a convention and decided to live with a measly 20 million salary per year the rest of their lives. They would probably solve every world problem overnight….if rich Christians (or Muslims for example) just stopped talking about how right they are about the bible and actually decided to listen to the world we live in now instead of reading about it 2000 years ago maybe we could actually figure out why young people are living with their parents……………..exactly…….that aint gonna happen now is it. The reason is simple. YOU IDIOTS MESSED UP THE ECONOMY AND THE US SHIPS ITS JOBS OVERSEAS. The solution is to start a new locally-based people run government everywhere and tear up the constitution!!!!! Yes, I said the pledge of allegiance and went to Catholic school. It is all a big scam. History shows that the US is run by industrialist dynasties and that will never change – when you have billions one year and you stick it in the bank what happens – you have millions more, right? What happens to everyone else? They are screwed, and cannot keep up with the artificial inflation. Ohhhhh yes, sure, young people are just so much of less character than all you 60 and 70 year olds. You are so honorable, having driven the US into the ground in one generation while polluting the environment and managing to kill of all the greatest musicians and noble politicians in the process. Great job. How does it feel to be the last asshole standing that is looking down at everyone. You must be really concerned with the population, having written such a heartwarming article. PEOPLE LIVE WITH THEIR PARENTS BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY THE RICH/WEALTHY/GREEDY/OR INDEBTED LANDLORDS IN AMERICAN CITIES.

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