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30 Statistics About Americans Under The Age Of 30 That Will Blow Your Mind

Young People - Photo by Jefferson liffeyWhy are young people in America so frustrated these days?  You are about to find out.  Most young adults started out having faith in the system.  They worked hard, they got good grades, they stayed out of trouble and many of them went on to college.  But when their educations where over, they discovered that the good jobs that they had been promised were not waiting for them at the end of the rainbow.  Even in the midst of this so-called “economic recovery”, the full-time employment rate for Americans under the age of 30 continues to fall.  And incomes for that age group continue to fall as well.  At the same time, young adults are dealing with record levels of student loan debt.  As a result, more young Americans than ever are putting off getting married and having families, and more of them than ever are moving back in with their parents.

It can be absolutely soul crushing when you discover that the “bright future” that the system had been promising you for so many years turns out to be a lie.  A lot of young people ultimately give up on the system and many of them end up just kind of drifting aimlessly through life.  The following is an example from a recent Wall Street Journal article

James Roy, 26, has spent the past six years paying off $14,000 in student loans for two years of college by skating from job to job. Now working as a supervisor for a coffee shop in the Chicago suburb of St. Charles, Ill., Mr. Roy describes his outlook as “kind of grim.”

“It seems to me that if you went to college and took on student debt, there used to be greater assurance that you could pay it off with a good job,” said the Colorado native, who majored in English before dropping out. “But now, for people living in this economy and in our age group, it’s a rough deal.”

Young adults as a group have been experiencing a tremendous amount of economic pain in recent years.  The following are 30 statistics about Americans under the age of 30 that will blow your mind…

#1 The labor force participation rate for men in the 18 to 24 year old age bracket is at an all-time low.

#2 The ratio of what men in the 18 to 29 year old age bracket are earning compared to the general population is at an all-time low.

#3 Only about a third of all adults in their early 20s are working a full-time job.

#4 For the entire 18 to 29 year old age bracket, the full-time employment rate continues to fall.  In June 2012, 47 percent of that entire age group had a full-time job.  One year later, in June 2013, only 43.6 percent of that entire age group had a full-time job.

#5 Back in the year 2000, 80 percent of men in their late 20s had a full-time job.  Today, only 65 percent do.

#6 In 2007, the unemployment rate for the 20 to 29 year old age bracket was about 6.5 percent.  Today, the unemployment rate for that same age group is about 13 percent.

#7 American families that have a head of household that is under the age of 30 have a poverty rate of 37 percent.

#8 During 2012, young adults under the age of 30 accounted for 23 percent of the workforce, but they accounted for a whopping 36 percent of the unemployed.

#9 During 2011, 53 percent of all Americans with a bachelor’s degree under the age of 25 were either unemployed or underemployed.

#10 At this point about half of all recent college graduates are working jobs that do not even require a college degree.

#11 The number of Americans in the 16 to 29 year old age bracket with a job declined by 18 percent between 2000 and 2010.

#12 According to one survey, 82 percent of all Americans believe that it is harder for young adults to find jobs today than it was for their parents to find jobs.

#13 Incomes for U.S. households led by someone between the ages of 25 and 34 have fallen by about 12 percent after you adjust for inflation since the year 2000.

#14 In 1984, the median net worth of households led by someone 65 or older was 10 times larger than the median net worth of households led by someone 35 or younger.  Today, the median net worth of households led by someone 65 or older is 47 times larger than the median net worth of households led by someone 35 or younger.

#15 In 2011, SAT scores for young men were the worst that they had been in 40 years.

#16 Incredibly, approximately two-thirds of all college students graduate with student loans.

#17 According to the Federal Reserve, the total amount of student loan debt has risen by 275 percent since 2003.

#18 In America today, 40 percent of all households that are led by someone under the age of 35 are paying off student loan debt.  Back in 1989, that figure was below 20 percent.

#19 The total amount of student loan debt in the United States now exceeds the total amount of credit card debt in the United States.

#20 According to the U.S. Department of Education, 11 percent of all student loans are at least 90 days delinquent.

#21 The student loan default rate in the United States has nearly doubled since 2005.

#22 One survey found that 70% of all college graduates wish that they had spent more time preparing for the “real world” while they were still in college.

#23 In the United States today, there are more than 100,000 janitors that have college degrees.

#24 In the United States today, 317,000 waiters and waitresses have college degrees.

#25 Today, an all-time low 44.2 percent of all Americans between the ages of 25 and 34 are married.

#26 According to the Pew Research Center, 57 percent of all Americans in the 18 to 24 year old age bracket lived with their parents during 2012.

#27 One poll discovered that 29 percent of all Americans in the 25 to 34 year old age bracket are still living with their parents.

#28 Young men are nearly twice as likely to live with their parents as young women the same age are.

#29 Overall, approximately 25 million American adults are living with their parents according to Time Magazine.

#30 Young Americans are becoming increasingly frustrated that previous generations have saddled them with a nearly 17 trillion dollar national debt that they are expected to make payments on for the rest of their lives.

And this trend is not just limited to the United States.  As I have written about frequently, unemployment rates for young adults throughout Europe have been soaring to unprecedented heights.  For example, the unemployment rate for those under the age of 25 in Italy has now reached 40.1 percent.

Simon Black of the Sovereign Man blog discussed this global trend in a recent article on his website…

Youth unemployment rates in these countries are upwards of 40% to nearly 70%. The most recent figures published by the Italian government show yet another record high in youth unemployment.

An entire generation is now coming of age without being able to leave the nest or have any prospect of earning a decent wage in their home country.

This underscores an important point that I’ve been writing about for a long time: young people in particular get the sharp end of the stick.

They’re the last to be hired, the first to be fired, the first to be sent off to fight and die in foreign lands, and the first to have their benefits cut.

And if they’re ever lucky enough to find meaningful employment, they can count on working their entire lives to pay down the debts of previous generations through higher and higher taxes.

But when it comes time to collect… finally… those benefits won’t be there for them.

Meanwhile, the overall economy continues to get even weaker.

In the United States, Gallup’s daily economic confidence index is now the lowest that it has been in more than a year.

For young people that are in high school or college right now, the future does not look bright.  In fact, this is probably as good as the U.S. economy is going to get.  It is probably only going to be downhill from here.

The system is failing, and young people are going to become even angrier and even more frustrated.

So what will that mean for our future?

Please feel free to share what you think by posting a comment below…

  • GSOB

    They should allow student loans to be erased in bankruptcy. Give them a clean slate at least.

    • GoldenEagles

      I couldn’t tell you how this works, some hidden law of nature I suppose — we are ruled by the laws of Nature’s God obviously, whether one recognizes it or not — but when people default on debts, that drives the value of the currency down. It is another aspect of inflation.

      The most obvious dimension of inflation is in the printing of money. When you print money out of nothing, money that has no intrinsic value in itself, the value of the currency in everyone’s pocket will fall to represent the true value of the money supply, in relationship to the true value of the goods that are currently for sale.

      That’s one-half of the inflation principle that drove up gas prices after all. That’s one-half of the principle that is constantly driving up food prices.

      When people default on loans, which the comment above recommends, this feeds the other half of the inflation principle.

      What was loaned to them at the time it was loaned to them, had a particular wealth value, in relationship to the goods for sale at that moment in time, in this case, an education, which is, in itself a multi-dimensional soup of commodities.

      Over the course of getting this education, these dollars flowed into the pockets of thousands of individuals in exchange for products of real value. When the loaned is “written off”, those dollars that are in the pockets of these thousands of people, which they received in exchange for products of real value, these dollars become instantly worthless.

      You know, the only thing that keeps an economy like this alive, is the life people put into the products and services they create. Whatever value the money supply has at a given moment, is this aggregate level of life that people have put into the products and services they created, in exchange for the money.

      So again, when people default on their loans, refusing to add, through their own life expression, in the form of meaningful work, to the value of the money supply, the commensurate return required associated with the loan, those dollars they have previous spent to receive real goods and services, those dollars, now in the pockets of other people, become instantly worthless.

      Say for example, that you receive a $100,000 loan for your education, and that in the course of receiving that education, that money was spent, for the purpose of placing into your hands, a wide spectrum of real goods and services. You had to buy food, pay rent, buy books, pay tuition, buy gas for your car, buy roses for your girl friend, by clothes, pay utilities, and so forth.

      To maintain the value of that money, in the overall money supply, the person who received this loan must do the work that will produce $100,000 worth of income. When that is done, the value of the money supply remains stable.

      If this is not done, the value of the money loaned, again in the pockets of thousands of people now, is made worthless. Sure they can still spend it. But the aggregate real value of the money supply becomes less. All of their dollars fall in purchasing power. Yes, to compensate for this zero value of a certain portion of the money supply, the value of everyone’s money is reduced accordingly.

      Think about it this way.

      Visualize a dollar as a bucket of water three-quarters full. And line up one-hundred of these buckets in a row. Each of these buckets, representing one dollar, one-hundred of them representing one-hundred dollars.

      Starting out, the water line in each bucket is the same. They all have the same purchasing power at a given moment in time. In this case, they are all at a level of three-quarters full.

      If the value of half of these buckets all of sudden becomes zero, meaning that the water in 50 of these buckets all of a sudden disappears, the water will flow from the 50 buckets that still have water, into the empty buckets. The water, which represents value, will flow to a state of equilibrium.

      Do the math. If you start out with 100 buckets 75% full, and all of sudden 50 of them are empty, what is the level at which the water will eventually find its equilibrium?

      I will start out with the given, that each bucket holds four gallons. And when we begin, with each bucket being only 75% full, that means each bucket will have three gallons. With 100 buckets, each holding three gallons, you have a total of 300 gallons of water, or value.

      Empty 50 of these buckets to zero, taking half of the total gallons away, you have 150 gallons remaining. These 150 gallons will spread themselves out equally throughout all of the 100 buckets.

      Divide the total gallons, 150 gallons, by the total number of buckets, 100, and you will find that you now have 1.5 gallons of water in each bucket.

      The people with real money in their pockets, found the purchasing power of their dollars fall by one half. Because the person to whom 50 dollars was loaned, refused to pay it back.

      What is the most valuable thing we have on this planet, without which survival is impossible? Of course, it is water. Water and value are synonymous, and both were created by God, with these same crucial characteristics of flow, and of seeking equilibrium.

      The economy is one gigantic organic mechanism, which the Mind of God understands perfectly, upon which his laws act unerringly. This aspect of flow, and of equilibrium are aspects of the law that are always in operation. Sure, people can manipulate the flow of water. They know how to build pumps and pipes and reservoirs, and dams, and so forth. The same is true with the commodity of value. But none of that reaches the question of the aggregate amount of water in each bucket. All buckets have an equal amount of water in them. And the amount of water in each will always find the point of equilibrium.

      Indeed, clever people have devised ways to put their wealth into reservoirs. But still, the amount of water in each bucket of value, stored in the reservoir, will be the same as the amount of water in each bucket of value in the pocket of all people.

      That why a loaf of bread costs at least four times as much as it did 20 years ago, if my memory serves me correctly, and the government can’t do anything about it. That’s why gas is nearly $5.00 a gallon today, when in the 1960’s, was only 30 cents a gallon.

      Both of these factors play into this process of grinding down the value of our money.

      When the fed is printing 85 billion dollars each month to “buy” government bonds, you know exactly what is happening. They are driving down the value of the dollar. There is no other outcome. As they relentlessly drive down the value of the dollar, people cannot buy as much with the dollars they have, and that reduces sales, and reduced sales, reduces manufacturing, and all of that puts people out of work, where they can only find lower paying jobs, with even less money to spend. And so forth.

      But that’s a whole other story.

      • Jimbo

        Well said. Everything you say is obvious to anyone who is not blind but 95% of people are economically blind. As long as that is the case, we are all doomed to live the life that the 95% accept that is inflicted by the 1% at the top. 100% are living through a collapse, 95% don’t realise it and of the 5% that understand what is going on. 1 in 5 of them created it and 4 in 5 can’t do anything about it.

        • GoldenEagles

          Can’t do anything about it?

          “Let that mind be in you which was in Christ Jesus”

          Remember that?

          Reverence unto God is the light that carries intelligence and power into the mind of man.

          However, the more the mind absorbs the spirit of mockery unto Christ, the more in shadow does it dwell. Behold America in a mental, emotional, and spiritual, shadow. A deep shadow.

          This American culture swims in an ocean of such mockery and disdain unto Christ. In this dark and polluted thinking space the people cannot see beyond the tip of their own nose. And yes, do they stumble around in the darkness, and fall over the chairs, and the sofa? Indeed they do.

          This used to be a reverent nation. And that was the key to her genius.

          It is a reverent nation no more. And that is the key to her downfall.

          The first step to reversing this situation, and establishing a reverse current of Light in every problem area America faces, is to restore the institution of Prayer to the Public Schools.

          Yet, where is there any hope for taking a step in the direction of national salvation, when in a group of people like this, who would be expected to have this level of attunement with the Light of Conscience, and yes, I am speaking of this group, I have not seen this principle even alluded to.

          I say to my friends, when you swim in the polluted pool of the national culture, your vision is no more penetrating than those who are pouring the pollution into the national culture. And that is a problem.

          I dare say, that if anyone here had the gumption in their heart to stand up and agree with me, on the important of restoring school prayer now, that person might start to move in the direction of affirmation, but would quickly sit back down before opening his mouth for FEAR that he would be considered a moron along with me.

          And that is why Christ said, blessed are they who are not offended in me.

          They are blessed in this respect at least, as they have no fear, or least their allegiance to truth is powerful enough to overcome their fear.

          Gauge the extent to which this step in the right direction, the restoration of prayer in the public schools is possible in America today. Give it a percentage value. Is it 80%? Is it 50%? Is it 10%

          I will give you my percentage value. ZERO PERCENT. To the extent that there is no hope of taking a step in what is actually the right direction, to that extent is there no hope, none, for the Saving of America.

          If you don’t mind the overused metaphor, people will continue to play their games upon the deck of the Titanic, until the very day the angle of the deck becomes so steep, they will all be swept over the railing, and into the sea.

          No one had any idea how to patch the hole in the side of the boat. Well some people had the idea, I will give you that. But they forced into silence by the fear of being mocked.

          The Pillar of Light, 12 feet in diameter, rising into the sky as far as the eye can see, from its point of origin in my front yard, attracting the immediate attention of the national and worldwide media, will help to get the people’s attention to the truth. Though it will not be enough by itself to galvanize a movement around a plan for national salvation. The onrushing storm will play an important role in that respect.

          • Jimbo

            I don’t subscribe to your beliefs but I agree with your thinking.

            But isn’t the USA nothing more than a false idol?
            If Jesus returns to earth will he align himself with the stars and stripes or the union jack?

            Or will he just refuse to recognise the false idols that are the worlds leaders and their flags?.

          • GoldenEagles

            The second coming of Jesus Christ is now, and will always be, within the hearts of the people. Remember that he said, that the Kingdom of God is within us. The Kingdom of God radiates out from the individual heart. Of course, the Power of Christ must live in that heart. When the Spirit of Christ appears in the heart of an American, and in the heart of an Austrailan, the heart of each will counsel cooperation in the defense of freedom, even as it was during World War Two, during the Korean War, and even in Vietnam. It is truly unfortunate, however, that unity in this world comes only under the pressures of war.

          • GSOB

            There is no ‘heart’ not subject to God.

          • GoldenEagles

            God is the power that beats every heart, that is for sure. Whether the mind that rides on top of the shoulders, will recognize that fact is another question.

          • Gay Veteran

            defense of freedom in Vietnam????
            wow, you have been brainwashed

          • GoldenEagles

            The forces of Communism, under the leadership of Ho Chi Minh, wanted to turn the whole of Vietnam into a slave labor camp, in the image of the Soviet Union, where there is no respect for the principle of individual liberty.

            President Dwight D. Eisenhower committed America to this fight against the forces of Communism in the late 1950’s. John F. Kennedy, when he took office in 1960 continued U.S. assistance to the South Vietnamese. President Lyndon Johnson, when he took office in 1963, continued this battle on behalf of the principle of freedom. Unfortunately, the outcome under President Nixon was an American retreat, which allowed the Communists, driving Soviet made tanks, to invade the south in 1975 virtually unopposed. The whole of Vietnam is under communist rule today. And there is no freedom there. It is a police state run on the principle of terror.

          • Gay Veteran

            “The forces of Communism, under the leadership of Ho Chi Minh, wanted to turn the whole of Vietnam into a slave labor camp, in the image of the Soviet Union….”
            totally clueless, the North Vietnamese were nationalists, they opposed ANY foreign control. And we were backing the DICTATORS in South Vietnam.

            “…President Lyndon Johnson, when he took office in 1963, continued this battle….”
            hey junior, did you know the Tonkin Gulf incident (which LBJ used to expand the war) was a FAKE?

            “…The whole of Vietnam is under Communist rule today. And there is no freedom there. It is a police state run on the principle of terror.”
            police state? sounds like American today, where the government records EVERY phone call, text message, email, internet search, and can make you “disappear” or even kill you without charges or a trial.
            grow up already

          • GoldenEagles

            The North Vietnamese were Communists, and by definition Atheists.

          • Gay Veteran

            hey junior, they were also nationalists.
            did they conquer their neighbors? NO

          • GoldenEagles

            Gay Veteran says, “they were also nationalists”

            I am happy that your sense of reality has become a little bit more accurate. Before they were just nationalists. But now, more accurately, you see them as both nationalists and communists.

            But you still have some distance to travel to get to a destination of accuracy on this point.

            Communists are NEVER nationalists. They appeal to the principle of nationalism to gain a broader base of support in the population. But in all truth, they are anti-nationalist at heart. Why?

            Their Communist policies, which they force on people at the point of a gun, will keep the people in poverty, while they sit on their thrones of power, feeding off the labor of the people. No private property, no rule of law, no free enterprise, no free speech, no freedom of religion, no freedom of assembly, no freedom to challenge the government.

            Moreover, they are Anti-God. Every nation belongs to God. God alone knows what is best for each nation. Only by communing with the heart of God, which is a heart of infinite love for the people, can leaders understand what is best for the nation. Communists by defininition, reject God, and thus set themselves outside of the domain of knowledge where they could ever understand what is truly in the best interests of God’s Children.

            Communists are only interested in power, and keeping the people under control, and in expanding their totalitarian dream beyond their borders.

          • Gay Veteran

            I figured you wouldn’t comment about Tonkin Gulf.
            And you continue drinking the Kool -Aid

          • GoldenEagles

            It is too bad that people sometimes need a shallow excuse to do the right thing. But in politics that is sometimes the case.

          • Gay Veteran

            hey chickenhawk, the Gulf of Tonkin resolution wasn’t a “shallow excuse”, it was a LIE

          • Gay Veteran

            sorry, but there are now (as throughout history) many intelligent and caring people who were NOT christian

          • GoldenEagles

            If they are caring people, they will not object to the restoration of prayer in the public schools, especially if they understand that the saving of the nation requires it.

          • Gay Veteran

            you are truly clueless, as if parroting a prayer does any good.
            sorry, religious indoctrination is the responsibility of parents. Quit trying to use the power of the state to impose your brand of religion on everyone else.

          • GoldenEagles

            Not believing in religion yourself, how is it possible for you to come to an accurate conclusion as to what God will do with the prayer that comes from the heart of the devoted? you have no basis in experience to draw such a conclusion.

            In the aggregate, prayer in the public schools is the most powerful kind of prayer that there is, as it relates directly to the level of treasure that God can pour into the national affairs of a nation.

            No prayer, no treasure.

          • Gay Veteran

            yeah, be like a Pharisee praying in public.
            Looks like you view god as a piggy bank

          • GoldenEagles

            As I noted before. There is nothing in the Bible that teaches against public prayer. Public prayer is a part of every gathering of devoted human beings. The teaching goes to the posture of the heart. Not to the venue.

            I would not use the word piggy bank. But his heart is a great treasury of Desire to give every child every good and perfect thing, and His heart has the capacity to deliver. For example, within that vast heart is a shelf millions of miles long, stacked up with the treasures he would give to you personally, once you can find the desire and the will to adopt the posture of the receptive heart necessary to receive those treasures. They are there waiting for you, and they are not gathering dust either.

          • Gay Veteran

            Wow, ignorant about religion too!

            Matthew 6:5
            New International Version (NIV)
            “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.”

          • GoldenEagles

            I don’t mind repeating myself.

            WHY do the hypocrites love to pray, standing in the synagogues and on the street corners? It is because they desire to be seen by others. It is a charade of piety. It is this charade of piety that the master is chastising.

            The lesson is, don’t pray to be seen by others. Pray to be heard by God. And that is what School prayer is all about, for the nation to be heard by God, and for God to hear the prayers and begin the process of healing the nation.

          • Gay Veteran

            utterly pathetic, you want to FORCE children to participate in YOUR particular brand of religion.

          • GoldenEagles

            No, this is about freedom. And it is about the restoration of tolerance in the American culture.

            This is about pulling the court enforced gags out of the mouths of the great majority of parents and children who desire to participate in the national devotional process of restoring the benefits of Divine Providence to our national affairs.

            In this respect the people of America need to be set free from the chains that have been wrapped around them by the U.S. Supreme Court. They need to be set free, as it was at our founding, to say their prayers unto God, in the way they see fit, in the places and in the manners they see fit, without any interference from government, legislative, executive, or judicial.

            And it about restoring the civic virtue of toleration to American society. If some people don’t like the prayers being said for the salvation of the nation, they can simply stand there, and be respectfully quiet, in a posture of toleration, which is after all a duty of American citizenship. This duty unto toleration is embodied in the First Amendment, where citizens are required, by the highest law of the land, to tolerate the expression of viewpoints they deem objectionable.

            The practice of school prayer has always been voluntary. No one will be forced to say or do anything that their conscience objects to.

          • Gay Veteran

            Freedom? Tolerance? ROFLOL, you’re a typical religious nut who wants to use the POWER of the State to force children to listen to YOUR brand of religious garbage.

            “court enforced gags”? EVERY person in school can pray, silently, unlike Pharisees like you.

            Gee, I want prayers to Mammon. After all, as you said: “…it about restoring the civic virtue of toleration to American society. If some people don’t like the prayers being said for the salvation of the nation, they can simply stand there, and be respectfully quiet, in a posture of toleration, which is after all a duty of American citizenship. This duty unto toleration is embodied in the First Amendment, where citizens are required, by the highest law of the land, to tolerate the expression of viewpoints they deem objectionable.”

            BTW, once again you show your appalling ignorance. The First Amendment places restrictions on Government, NOT people. I don’t have to tolerate anything spewing out of your mouth.

            The practice of school prayer has always been voluntary. No one will be forced to say or do anything that their conscience objects to.

          • GoldenEagles

            The last paragraph of your post should have been in quotes, as those are my words.

            Again, and thank you for repeating the truth, “The practice of school prayer has always been voluntary. No one will be forced to say or do anything that their conscience objects to.”

            The word “force” has a definition. Google it. “strength or energy as an attribute of physical action or movement.”

            To force someone to do something is to employ some form of physical action upon them. Security guards dragging people into a classroom to pray would fulfill the definition of force. Physical punishment of any type, of anyone who opts out, would fulfill the definition of force.

            However, there is nothing about the practice of voluntary school prayer that meets the definition of “force.” There are no physical actions taken upon anyone, to force them to participate, or to force them to value the practice itself.

            Your insistence on using that word “force” is simply an act of deception on your part.

            People who insist on using deception to get there way are admitting that they have no valid argument based on truth.

            On the subject of the First Amendment, the principle of toleration embodied in the First Amendment is universally applicable.

            While the force of law cannot cannot compel you to love what anyone says, the force of law can block you from taking any action that would materially hinder the exercise of another citizens First Amendment rights. Toleration to that extent is enforced by law.

            I am wondering about this. Are you in any way concerned that your attitude on this essential subject is diametrically opposed to what God our Father wants for His Children? You should be concerned.

            The anger and derision you exhibit in the face of this divine subject is like an acid that will eventually consume your soul. And when that is consumed, there is no way to return to your divine estate.

            To be on the safe side, your arguments against this should be made from the perspective of God’s Will. Arguments against School Prayer should explain why God would not want this to take place. If can commune with God, who is your Father as much as he is mine, in a spirit of Respect and Love, and you discover a reason in His Heart that exposes the folly of school prayer, then articulating that principle of opposition will not have any destructive impact upon your own soul.

            But to argue against the interests of God himself, to be motivated by an anger that in itself represents a state of alienation, signals a situation that poses danger to the life of your soul.

            This would be an interesting subject to explore more deeply.

          • Gay Veteran

            you must be unemployed to have so much time to write your massive amounts of drivel.

            And gee, I’m soooooo impressed that you are able to use Google to find a definition that suits your purposes.

            Yes, you indeed want to force children to listen to YOUR brand of religious garbage, that is just an attempt at brainwashing. I dare say that your opinion of “force” would change if you had to listen to a prayer to Satan every day.

            “…On the subject of the First Amendment, the principle of toleration embodied in the First Amendment is universally applicable….”
            Once again you show your appalling ignorance. The Bill of Rights limits government power.

            “…While the force of law cannot cannot compel you to love what anyone says, the force of law can block you from taking any action that would materially hinder the exercise of another citizens First Amendment rights. Toleration to that extent is enforced by law….”

            from Bartcop:
            “NO. I do not respect your religious beliefs.
            I respect your right to HAVE them.
            I respect your right to EXPRESS them [with adults, not children].
            I respect YOU so long as you respect ME.
            I do not “respect” your “right” to tell me I’m an EVIL person.
            I do not “respect” your “right” to tell me I am going to HELL.
            I do not “respect” your “right” to impose YOUR beliefs on ME.
            I do not respect IGNORANCE.
            I do not respect BRAINWASHING.
            I do not respect CULTS.
            I do not respect hatred, bigotry, misogyny, sexism, or tyranny.
            I do not respect your religion. And I don’t have to.”

          • GoldenEagles

            Every time I speak, you only get more angry.

            I think it is because you can see where this discussion is heading.

            I think you have an accurate sense that in this discussion, you will come face to face with the fact that the homosexual condition, to which you are enslaved, is product of demon possession, and you show every sign of it.

            This anger that you are expressing to me, is the anger of the demon who has you by throat, who feeds off your life force, through the homosexual activity, and who manipulates your feelings to hate anything that smells like the sweet fragrance of freedom.

            You don’t hate school prayer, in your heart, you probably love the idea of school prayer. It is the demon force working through you that hates school prayer.

            The demonic influence sends these rivers of derision through your feeling world in my direction, but you stay around, because in your heart, you know what I am saying has some value.

            I believe the reason you have stayed with this discussion so long, is because in your heart, you know the truth, and somehow, you knew you found somebody that would tell the truth to your face, but in a respectful manner.

            I do respect you as a fellow Child of the Most High God. But in my respect for you, I must tell you the truth. God never designed your soul to be enslaved to the homosexual lifestyle.

            Why do you advertise your homosexuality if you did not want somebody to tell you the truth about it?

            Am I right? Tell the truth.

            You have many indications in your life that the force you have aligned yourself with is of the darkside. And you need help. I am here to help.

            You find that you have hateful feelings in the direction of God, and you know that isn’t normal, but you don’t know what to do about it. After all, you know you are a child of God, yet, you have hateful feelings in the direction of God. You have a sense that this isn’t right, and you are correct.

            Alienation from God is not God’s Will for any child.

            It is this demonic force, that is associated with the condition of homosexual slavery, that is where the feelings of hate in the direction of God, hate in the direction of Christ, and hate in the direction of religion generally, originate.

            To get free from those feelings, you have to get free from those demons.

            Where is the Power of Freedom? The only power that can set you free from the power of these demons that keep you enslaved to the homosexual lifestyle is the Power of God.

            And God our Father wants to give that power of freedom to you.

            But you have to ask for it, and of course, you have to hold out your hand in the direction of the Master Jesus Christ, as the Power of God the Father flows into this world through his Healing Heart.

            That’s what he is here for. To help to set us all free.

            When it comes to getting your freedom from darkside manipulations, there are benefits to acting quickly in the direction of freedom, and not delaying.

          • GSOB

            The appearance of praying in public in school settings has been ruled against….

            but really,…. how can anyone stop anyone else from praying?

            I’m praying as I write this response. I pray continually…

            You are supporting the restoration of a fad… merely talking a form of Godliness…. but it don’t shell out, really….

            People don’t get saved in groups. Walk in the Spirit and do not fulfill the lust of the flesh. Put on the whole armor of God.

            Home schooling is the viable alternative.

          • Gay Veteran

            “…You are supporting the restoration of a fad….”
            what did Jesus say about praying in public?

          • GSOB

            What did Matthew write about what Jesus said?

          • Gay Veteran

            And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men.

          • GoldenEagles

            This is interesting, a person who does not believe in religion, quoting the Bible.

            And not understanding religion, you have applied the passage in haphazard and erroneous manner.

            That passage has nothing to do with public prayer. Public prayer is part of all religious worship rituals.

            This passage has everything to do with the posture of the heart, while you are participating in the ubiquitous practice of public prayer.

            The admonishment is to look to God while you are praying, and not look to the approval of men. It is that simple.

            Follow this admonishment, and all prayer becomes more sincere, and thus more powerful, including prayer in the public schools.

          • Gay Veteran

            EYEROLL. There has always been prayer in school. And there will always be prayer in school as long as there are tests.
            You just want to use the power of the State to impose your particular brand of religion on everyone else.

          • GSOB

            I am 85% against public schools…. and subjecting nonbelievers to participate in prayer there.., i.e when their parents object to it especially.
            borders non believers participating the Lord’s table.

            That my friend is the public education of an unknown God.

          • GoldenEagles

            The release of the resources of Divine Providence unto a nation depends on the level of unity under God that a nation has achieved through free will consensus. If there is 100% unity under God, the resources of Divine Providence will pour out upon a nation like a Niagara Falls of Abundance. If there is zero unity under God, then the tap will be closed off completely.

            In as much as the forces of Lucifer, Satan and so forth operate under the principle of Divide and Conquer, the level of unity a nation must express, must be a product of the people’s freewill rejection of the principles of division, which have their roots in the demonic world.

            In terms of its original foundation, the Institution of School Prayer was a product of the people’s consensus regarding their need to agree on the importance of the principle of Divine Providence and agree to come together in their collective identity to request it. When this consensus was operative, the resources of Divine Providence were released to the nation.

            When this consensus was blocked by the U.S. Supreme Court ruling in 1962, the resources of Divine Providence could no longer be released, at least not at the level of abundance previously experienced.

            All of our national problems have this common root. The cutting off of the resources of Divine Providence.

            It is very much like the contents of your refrigerator. If the electricity goes out, the refrigerator cannot maintain the proper inside temperature, a temperature that is essential to stop the growth of alien organisms. In this analogy, mold and fungus and bacteria. If the electricity stays off for a week, everything will begin to spoil. That’s the situation we face in America today. Except, in our case the electricity has been off for over 50 years now.

            ALL arguments against the restoration of school prayer are part of the divide and conquer tactics of the demonic world. They want to keep the electricity off, so that the whole thing can rot, for in the rotting process, the purposes and plans of God are destroyed.

          • GSOB

            The public education school system from its origin to it’s monstrosity today is not the answer or is it the vehicle
            for transformation for a better society.

            The Church has the keys to the kingdom = preaching the gospel. That authority is given to all believers in their evangelize.

            Civil government has the authority from God to execute capital punishment against evil doers… a necessary evil because of evil.

            The husband is the head of the family as Christ is the head of the church.

            Every individual is in a covenant with God, like it or not,….
            it’s a matter of the nature that covenant relationship… is it one of hostility or of peace?

            Redemption by the blood of Jesus Christ is the solution to everything, which will prove itself in time, but until then…

            the wheat and the tare grow together until the Lord sends His angels to gather up the tares first

            to throw them in the fire – because they are obstacles to the expansion of the heavenly kingdom as it unfolds….

          • GSOB

            The body of Christ – the Church – is better off now then at anytime in it’s past.

          • Gay Veteran

            I am simply amazed at the vast amount of drivel you produce!
            “…If there is 100% unity under God, the resources of Divine Providence will pour out upon a nation like a Niagara Falls of Abundance….”
            sounds like you want a theocracy where everybody believes or they are murdered by the State
            You want 100% unity? Move to Saudi Arabia.

          • Gay Veteran

            “…Gauge the extent to which this step in the right direction, the restoration of prayer in the public schools is possible in America today. Give it a percentage value. Is it 80%? Is it 50%? Is it 10%
            I will give you my percentage value. ZERO PERCENT….”
            Thy shalt not lie. Kids pray in school every day, every time they take a test. Plus there are religious clubs at schools.
            What you want is state sponsored prayer. Of course that prayer would be from YOUR brand of religion.

          • GoldenEagles

            There is a difference between individual prayer, asking for blessings of the individual, and prayers that ask for blessings in the domain of our national affairs. The institution of school prayer is the kind of prayer the goes to the intercession of the angelic legions in our national affairs. School prayer is a very unique institution in this regard, and there is no substitute for it.

            School prayer does not seek to promote any particular brand of religion. It goes only to building a the necessary consensus as to our need for the principle of Divine Providence to operate in the area of our national affairs. Adherents to all religions can find common ground here.

          • Gay Veteran

            oh, our resident Pharisee is back.

            “…School prayer does not seek to promote any particular brand of religion….”

            Thy shalt not lie. Everyone knows the prayer WILL be of the dominant religion in that area.

      • GSOB

        Again,
        filing bankruptcy should be an option now.

        The entire system is a ponzi system.. shouldering the backs of our college youth, who are victims of this scheme, based on some lesson of virtue you’d like to redeem – only fosters their demise.

        Debt is debt, and bankruptcy is legal but only for certain kinds of debt and not everyone files for bankruptcy.

        Once size shoe does not fit all.

      • Gay Veteran

        wow, a failure at history AND economics

    • Orange Jean

      Paid for by whom?

      • GSOB

        You

        • Orange Jean

          Nope, I already paid off my student loans and I didn’t co-sign for theirs.

      • PJ London

        The money is already spent! what you want is a refund

    • Gay Veteran

      if that happens then there will be fewer student loans, less demand, and college tuition will go down

    • NCBrian

      Why? Then the tax payer is even more on the hook for those subsidized loans?

      that’s the whole problem with education. The rich will always pay and the middle class will always take out loans – no matter what. And guess what the universities do, they hike up the prices.

      The cost of going to duke for a year, for example, is almost $60,000.

      Even 10 years ago that number was just under $36,000. Come on. If you adjust that for inflation you are still looking at about $47,000.

      That’s a 30% hike in cost over 10 years. Do you think the quality or value of an education at Duke as improved 30% in the past decade because I seriously doubt that it has. Not to mention the fact that it’s precisely this kind of fiscal policy that drives inflation up in the first place so the reality is that the cost of attendance at duke as doubled in just 10 years. that’s not even 3 cycles of graduates.

      And Duke is no different than almost any other school. This pattern is seen at every level from the top tier universities to the technical and community colleges.

  • Syrin

    They continue to vote for the authoritarian party. They deserve much of what has come their way.

    • GoldenEagles

      “Their way”? We are all in the same boat the last I looked.

      • SafetyViking

        Not likely….

      • GSOB

        The most important question that everyone will have to face and answer is this….

        Where do I stand in light of God’s judgement?

        We are not all in the same boat.

    • Gay Veteran

      the authoritarian party? which one? Democrats? Republicans?

  • James

    Many of them can join a branch of the military.

    • Gay Veteran

      LOL, and die for empire?

  • Rodster

    Thankfully I learned a trade in HS during the 70’s. Those days are over as the College ponzi scheme took off and did away with learning a free trade. I really feel bad for those in that age bracket.

    What’s worse is, that’s the generation that’s supposed to pay for the retirement and medical costs of the baby boomer generation.

    So how can we NOT collapse if there are no good jobs for our youth. We are witnessing a lost generation in many parts of the world. It has come to the US as well.

    • Jimbo

      This is why the western world economies are shafted. Pyramid schemes only work if the bottom layer is larger than the layer above it (hence pyramid). As people live longer and the proportion of dependents (retired etc.) increases, either pay and taxes must increase for those working, or spending will have to be slashed. Exponential government debt growth is the current solution but as we know on this site, it has an expiry date.

      Anyone under 30 has already had their lifetime tax dollars spent before they even earned them.

    • JustanOguy

      There are good jobs out there… Just not for kids wasting their time and dollars on worthless degrees such as in English, History, Basket Weaving, etc, etc.. (Topics that can all be self taught…. especially in today’s day and age of the internet.)

      As you know…. spend your tuition $$$ on a trade or a professional degree.

      • Rodster

        I agree that most college majors are worthless in the marketplace and while there are good jobs to be had there just isn’t enough available today. Those same good paying jobs you referred to have been shipped overseas for workers who are willing to make much less than our workers.

    • Gay Veteran

      “…What’s worse is, that’s the generation that’s supposed to pay for the retirement and medical costs of the baby boomer generation….”
      BINGO, you got it right!

  • Young American Expat

    I saw the start of these statistics back in 2009. That’s why I picked up and left right after college graduation. If TPTB couldn’t (more like wouldn’t) fix the financial problems we had back in 2008-9, why would they fix them later? So I as a young person decided that if my country would deliberately and needlessly sacrifice my future, and the future of the US over making more money in the short term with no positive benefit (for the country not the top 1%) why should I give them my labor, time or money in return? So I got my bags, my plane ticket, said goodbye to my folks, and 26 hours later I was on the other side of world working and earning money. The takeaway from this is if more and more young people see their future being destroyed, violence or mass emigration will follow (probably both). And once there is a tipping point, they will never come back. I don’t plan to. You can keep your high taxes, high costs of living, inability to make a living wage, and poor social environment all to yourselves. Cheers!

    – Young American Expat in Asia

    • GoldenEagles

      Very short sighted.

      • Young American Expat

        How so?

        -Young American Expat in Asia

        • GoldenEagles

          America is the global guarantor of freedom, and this includes religious, political and economic freedom, and the prosperity of ideas, innovation, and wealth, that goes with this threesome.

          In this respect, you are feeding off a flow of down stream water. When the source of that water dries up, you will find your cup empty. In other words, if America falls, repercussions will sweep across the planet, and what you think you have today, will disappear tomorrow.

          Look over your shoulder, Young Expat in Asia, the rising power, and shadow of totalitarianism, of Chinese Communism, looms over all of Asia. Cross America off your list of global powers, and freedom will become a memory throughout Asia.

          The smart thing, and far sighted thing to do is to stand your ground as an American, and to try to save America. That is the only hope for the planet.

          • Jimbo

            When the USMC outsources production of ammunition containers and rolling stock to a Chinese company, you can forget about patriotism and flag waving.

          • GoldenEagles

            What, does that act of blindness and betrayal diminish the light of patriotism in your own heart? It should make it grow the brighter in defense of America.

          • Jimbo

            Patriotism is about pursuing the best interests of your country. Is it better to pay more to employ US workers to build rolling stock and contribute taxes and make a profit for a US company? Or is it better to buy from the lowest bidder?
            That is why the British shipbuilding industry collapsed in the 80’s. Ships built overseas were cheaper but the destruction of the British shipbuilding, steel making and other feed in suppliers ended up costing more.
            If a government department has a billion to spend, why not spend it at home? Why go to a foreign supplier because they can do the job for a few dollars less?

          • GoldenEagles

            Who could argue with what you just said? Not me. Why aren’t these common sense decisions being made by those in leadership positions of the free nations? Why have such decisions not been made, on behalf of the light patriotism, for many decades now?

          • Jimbo

            It is all about money and not about the best interests of the the country. Each department gets a budget and they allocate spending on price only. Nobody looks at the big picture like what impact it will have on local industry or tax receipts.

            Margaret Thatcher closed down the coal mines in England and Wales and bought subsidised coal from Poland. She condemned South Wales, Cumbria and Northumberland to 30 years of poverty.
            Watch “The Full Monty” to get an idea of how things were.

          • GoldenEagles

            Why don’t they look at the big picture? After all, its right in front of their face, right? You can see it. Why can’t they see it?

          • Jimbo

            Even my wife can’t see it. I told her ten years ago that there was no way that things could continue the way they are. When the GFC happened she told me that it was just a numbers thing and it would be fixed.

            My answer to anyone who claims that world debt can be solved with creative accounting is this “Do it then”.

            If the answer to the worlds financial problems is to move some numbers on an excel spreadsheet from column A to column B, then do it and let’s get on with life as usual.

            Sadly, that isn’t the case.

          • Peace Angel

            You do not have a clear picture of what is happening in this nation at all and need to read my other comment. You have no clue what the picture or the FACTS are.

          • GoldenEagles

            A mind that is tangled up in conspiracy theories does not have a clear field of view. A mind that is tangled up in conspiracy theories is a mind that is living in a house of mirrors.

          • Peace Angel

            Yes, BUT again as a DC insider I KNOW the conspiracy theories in the US are almost ALWAYS true. I am a truth seer and a truth seeker and have spent my whole life learning the truth about the country I live in. You would be the one living in a house of mirrors. I have a very clear view of the past, present and future of the US.

          • Gay Veteran

            gee, because the banksters and the billionares control the government?
            that clue was for free

          • Pauly

            How else would the rest of the world get those fed notes to by oil and other commodities with? It’s how the debt $ scam keeps working.

          • Jimbo

            It is a scam from top to bottom. For someone to be able to live in a mansion with 50 servants there must be 1000 living in poverty who toil and sweat everyday for next to nothing. That has always been the case from the Romans through to Western Capitalism.

            Globalisation of capitalism has made a few people very rich but it has also leveled the playing field.

            What we are facing is not the end of the world. We will just have to accept that out living standards will decrease as the standards of others increase.

            We are not facing the end of the world. We are just going to experience a new and fairer system.

          • Steve

            Patriotism doesn’t pay the bills. Patriotism as you call it wasted the lives my father and brother gave for Americans and the 23 years of military service in three years I gave for naught. The American People are losers and deserve what is coming. I voted with my feet. I left. And frankly I am doing much better and living a very nice life unattainable in the U.S. because the IDIOTIC American Public continues to re-elect the same idiots to Congress they gripe about. Now how is that for being Schizophrenic?

          • Gay Veteran

            jeez, you sound like a paid shill

          • Jimbo

            I think you need to travel. See how hard a life others have. See real poverty. See how hard they work to survive.

            They have been exchanging their labor for USD and they have a hell of a lot of them.

            If they decide to unleash their saved up dollars, the USA will be toast.

          • Cranky

            A broke America can help no-one let alone themselves and in case you had not noticed, the USA debt ceiling has blown up again! The US needs to learn to live within their means and pay of their debt as goodwill will not extend for ever and these rising powers are funding your lifestyle that they will happily cash in as a form of economic warfare.

          • MeMadMax

            You think the world “depends on us”? Thats just a tipoff of your own personality: Self-Centered. I have been all over the world, they don’t give a rats about us. In fact, they rarely even hear about us, they just go about their business trying to make a living just like the rest of us. If we were to collapse, the one that would hurt the most is your apparent arch-enemy china, as we buy EVERYTHING from them. What do we make? Nothing. The so called GDP that we make is fake. All it is is money changing hands back and forth here. Here is an example that I mentioned here before: A guy walks into McDonald’s to buy a Double Cheeseburger. Some of that money eventually makes it’s way to the pocket of the guy that sold the first guy a double cheeseburger right? The guy that sold the double cheesburger goes across the street and buys a coffee at starbucks. The guy that sold him the coffee is the guy that bought the cheeseburger from before, “creating GDP”… All that is happening here is money is going back and forth, creating “GDP”… Why? Because we are a service based economy, we don’t build anything anymore because the factories are long gone. We make cars… BIG WHOOPDY DOOP…

          • GoldenEagles

            During the Second World War, the United States saved the world from the forces of totalitarianism, which were then marching under the banner of German Nazism, Italian Fascism, and Japanese Imperialism.

            All that has been built of economic prosperity in the countries set free, was built on the foundation of America’s military power, which was built on America’s industrial and economic might, which was built on the foundation of God’s Providence unto a reverent people.

            Standing for freedom, for the next 40 years, the United states saved the world from the forces of totalitarianism which would have marched again across the plains of Europe, then under the banner of Soviet Communism.

            And again, all that’s been built of economic prosperity in the countries which were kept free, was built on the foundation of America’s military power, which again was built on America’s industrial and economic might, which was built on the foundation of God’s Providence unto a reverent people.

            Looking at this foundation, if you remove the reverent people, you remove the foundation upon which all freedom and prosperity has been built up over the last 60 years across the entire face of this earth.

            For God’s Providence is no longer available to a people who have lost the posture of reverence unto the Almighty, and Provider of all good things.

            This process, by which the spigot of God’s Providence has been closed off, closed off, closed off, has been going on now for 50 years.

            The corresponding result of this loss of America’s access to the resources of Divine Providence which we see in all of the various pathologies, which this group knows so much about, will eventually cause America’s military power to crumble as well.

            We are on the very doorstep of that outcome in Asia. America projects power primarily through her aircraft carrier battle groups. The Communist Chinese have weapons now that can destroy our aircraft carriers.

            When America loses its capacity to project power in defense of freedom, the forces of totalitarianism will be on the march again.

            And you will see, that all the gains made for freedom, and its resulting economic prosperity around the world, will vanish under the boot of totalitarian control.

            Only those who believe in God, and respect God in their hearts, only these people really believe in Freedom. They are the only ones who will stand up and defend it, and give their lives for it.

            Without these courageous hearts who will stand up for freedom, and most importantly, who will stand up for the principles upon which freedom is based, the forces of tyranny will have an open field to run on.

            There are no dials on the economic control board that anyone can turn, this way or that way, that will make things better. The Fed is already taking steps of last resort, printing 85 billion dollars a month of funny money to buy treasury bonds. What does this do? It further weakens the purchasing power of the dollar, dumping more people into poverty. This is their solution? It is only making matters worse. And so it goes.

            It is all down hill from here, unless the core problem is recognized and addressed.

            America has lost access to the resources of Divine Providence. Figure out why, and address those causative factors, and America can be put back on the road to healing.

            Nothing else will work.

          • drums

            You need to read a real history book, not one of those fantasy books of made up historical facts. You might find it quite enlightening.

          • GoldenEagles

            drums: which of the above points of information which I consider to be facts do you dispute?

          • PJ London

            Start with :”During the Second World War, the United States saved the world from the forces of totalitarianism”
            USA waited until the war was won, (Russian forces chasing Germany back, ex Stalingrad, their forces and material destroyed ), forced weak Japan into a war via sanctions (just like Iran, but they have other allies and can withstand this evil) and then marched in to claim victory.
            USA has only ever (well, the last 60 odd years) beaten one country and won one war, Granada.

          • Gay Veteran

            good points

          • GoldenEagles

            PJ London, your viewpoint is lacking many pieces of essential information. You seemed to have skipped over Pearl Harbor. You seemed to have skipped over the U.S. convoy system supplying Britain with war materials, you seemed to have skipped over the battle of the Atlantic, and the U.S. supplying the Soviet Union, via Lend/Lease, with war materials, and the invasion of Normandy, and the Battle of the Bulge, and Patton’s defeat of Rommel in North Africa, and on, and on, and on.

          • PJ London

            You have completely validated my position. they sent tons of weapons, for which they were paid enormous amounts, as the British and Russians had no other possible supplier.

            In North Africa they were saved by the Brits

            “The U.S. II Corps had been badly mauled in their first encounter with the German-Italian forces in Tunisia in a series of battles that culminated in the disastrous Battle of the Kasserine Pass in late February 1943. Erwin Rommel—poised on the threshold of a complete tactical victory—turned from the battle to return to his eastward-facing defenses at the Mareth Line when he heard of the approach of Bernard Montgomery′s British 8th Army. Thus the battle concluded with the U.S. forces still in the field, but having lost ground and men, and with little confidence in some key commanders.”

            The German Army, as I said, were effectively defeated by 1944, after the defeats on the eastern front.

            Pearl Harbour, was a great American Victory?

            The Battle of the Atlantic or as the Germans called it “The U-boat crews glibly called it the “Second Happy Time” and the “American Shooting Season”.

            Drums had it right, contrary to Hollywood myths, John Wayne and Frank Sinatra did not win the second world war.
            But only one country made a fortune out of it.

          • GoldenEagles

            You validated my main paint, thank you. The question of how much they paid for the weapons is irrelevant. America was the only nation with the industrial capacity to produce the war materials they required to win. And of course, America was the only nation that could transport those materials across the Atlantic Ocean.

            Without America, Britain would have fallen, and without America, there would have been no second front against the Germans.

          • PJ London

            Dear Golden Eagle, you live in a world totally divorced from reality.

            I could suggest “One believes things because one has been conditioned to believe them.” – Aldous Huxley – Brave New World

            but I am sure that you wold find it impossible to break free from your conditioning.
            America sells things, that is it, that is all. It sells to both sides in every war It has no ethics, no morals and no courage. And once the fighting is (almost) over, it congratulates the winner and says how it was on their side all along. When Assad wins, US will dump Israel, as the cost of supporting it will be too high (in world wide ‘goodwill’)
            The rest of the world will say “You have stolen enough, go home and please stay there”

          • GSOB

            drummer?

          • GOM

            i hear violins playing….

          • GoldenEagles

            The vision of the heart is what is needed. You remember the old saying, I am sure, that without vision, the people perish.

          • GSOB

            True,

            However – one can not see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.

            2 Tim 2:19
            Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

          • MeMadMax

            Nope, I disagree. If the US didn’t exist, then it would’ve been some other place. Necessity is a pain… but it brings out the good in some places…

          • GoldenEagles

            If the U.S. did not exist, there was no power on the face of the earth that could have stood against forces of German Nazism, Italian Facism, and Japanese Imperialism.

          • MeMadMax

            You didn’t get the point. Some other country would’ve taken our place…. …….. ….

            Do you not have imagination?

          • Gay Veteran

            Italian Fascism? ROFLOL, the Italian army at that time couldn’t fight its way out of a wet paper bag!
            And the Russians would have bled the German army to death.

          • Gay Veteran

            “During the Second World War, the United States saved the world from the forces of totalitarianism…”
            couldn’t have done it without the USSR

            “….God’s Providence unto a reverent people….”
            hmmmm, after murdering a couple million natives and enslaving millions of Africans
            “…Standing for freedom….”

            oh, like when we overthrew the democratically elected government of Iran in the 1950s?

            The American economy was greatly helped by the vast resources of this country (timber, coal, iron ore, oil). NOTHING to do with “providence”.

            “…that all the gains made for freedom, and its resulting economic prosperity around the world, will vanish under the boot of totalitarian control….”
            WOW, really naïve, eh

            “…The first step in that direction is to restore prayer to the public schools.”
            ROFLOL, gee, would that include Muslim prayer? Wiccan? OR just YOUR particular branch of christianity?

          • GoldenEagles

            The Soviet Union would have been overrun by Hitler if it were not for the millions of tons of armaments sent to them through The U.S. Lend/ Lease program.

            This is not wise to mock the principle of Divine Providence. That power is the power that beats your very own heart after all.

          • Gay Veteran

            hey junior, I’m not the one who thinks it was America that singlehandedly saved the world.
            Religion exists for 2 reasons:
            (1) man fears death,
            (2) as a means of social control (obey the king or you’ll go to hell)

          • Peace Angel

            These are the propagandized versions of history created by the Bilderberg group who owned the media outlets at the time and today own far more and continue to propagandize those of you who are uninformed and brainwashed.

          • GoldenEagles

            The general outline that I gave is an accurate overview of the history. Minds that are all tangled up in conspiracy theories do not have a clear field of vision. It is like a house of mirrors.

          • Peace Angel

            Stop looking for someone to argue with because no knowledgeable person will agree with you.

            AND go watch ALL three seasons of Conspiracy Theory and rethink that one liner. Obama banned the production of the show and banned the “police state” episode in which the team infiltrated a working concentration camp from all media for a reason!!!!

            The reason is because they were exposing horrors about the politicians you defend and the crumbling nation you think you know!

            In three years there was only ONE episode in which they NOT able to prove the evil government conspiracies that his investigating team which included Oliver Stone’s son were in fact the truth and NOT conspiracy or theory. PROOF IS PROOF.

            Today with the truth in advertising laws, the documentaries, articles and online gov. documents being exposed PROVE that my 60 yrs. of hearing conspiracy theories were instead government lies and propaganda as I always knew that they were.

            THE TRUTH about Kennedy, VietNam, King, all the desert wars, 9/11, Katrina, Bohemian Grove, The Bilderberg group, the NWO, Agenda 21, the World Bank, the Federal Reserve were all once conspiracy theories.

            The lies about a 2 party system and a democratic nation and alien aircraft and agent orange, asbestos, lead, fluoride, poison baby vaccinations, poison flu and pneumonia shots, leaking nuclear power plants, drones in your house, smart meters, TV’s, computers,iphones and lots of other spying technics have ALL been exposed as lies perpetrated by our government who are puppets for the Bilderberg families and that is easy to research compared to how I did it the first time in a non digital library setting. So before you take on forty years of daily digging into these things you need to come back with more than one or two lines about mirrors and clear fields of vision because NO ONE here sees things the way you do.

          • GOM

            Hurt China? You mean the country who was stockpiling GOLD while the world was busy with other BS? China is lightyears ahead of the US in every aspect. Know why GridEX2 is coming in Nov? China now has the capability to EMP the whole friggin US from space! For God’s sake China doesn’t even pay for oil with USD! Oh, and in case you didn’t know China is BFF with Russia & Syria….your post is an epic fail.

          • El Pollo de Oro

            MeMadMax: I’ve done a lot of traveling around the world. Been to Europe, Latin America and North Africa. And you’re absolutely right: the BRA is not worshipped and adored around the world. The BRA is viewed as a broken country that is in serious decline. I have friends and business contacts in Europe who hoped that Barack “Goldman Sachs” Obama would reverse the country’s decline (ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!). But they have since gotten over that fantasy, and now, they see us for what we are: a decaying empire with serious problems.

          • Steve

            Nay he is right and you are wrong. Some times you must abandon ship. Most Americans don’t care anymore unless it PERSONALLY affects them or their wallet. Your view is naive at best. Your America died a long time ago. Thousands of Americans have left the States to live outside of the U.S. for all the aforementioned reasons. As far as your statement that if American goes so does the rest of the world has me laughing…seriously. Now Nationalistic can you be.

          • Peace Angel

            Three million a year are expatriating and I am doing in the next two months myself. I have been studying the expat blogs for two years and hate that I had to wait this long.

            Life is far better in dozens if not hundreds of nations around the world where the NWO is not being legislated and where police forces are NOT being militarized and where politicians are not going stupid with the taxpayers money as our have done for a hundred years.

            Americans are the physically and mentally sickest people on earth. Due to massive amounts of poisoning of our soils and water nationwide since Agent orange 6 decades ago and due to the distribution of massive amounts of RX drugs filled with poisons and baby shots filled with poisons AMERICA is number one for any and every disease you can name.

            THE American Psychiatric Assoc. just reported in a 20 year study that 50% of all AMERICANS are clinically depressed which is NOT about the economy or job loss or even a family death. IT is a brain disease that totally debilitates people and one in 25 Americans are sociopaths and one in 10 are psychopaths. Look those up. America is the most violent nation on earth that IS NOT AT WAR.

            I have lived abroad also and it is true, no one cares or admonishes or things about the US except to laugh at how we have let our nation go from being the greatest on earth and throwing that into the faces of the rest of the world to a joke and a laughing stock. More ppl. in other nations KNOW what is happening here regarding the NWO than we do.

          • gfmucci

            The APA makes its living off of establishing new mental illnesses that 30 years ago were merely creative behaviors. The APA is part of the problem, not a great source of data indicating how bad the USA is.

          • Peace Angel

            I actually agree with you about the APA—-

            BUT if you were counseling people over the past forty years as I have been and IF you pay attention to the poisons that the government has been putting into our soil and water and into RX drugs and food and dry wall and carpets and paints and well everything we eat drink and breathe is filled with poisons then you would have studied those things and their effects on the brain as I have.

            ONE in four Americans will have a serious food born illness every year.

            AND if you pay attention to the faces around you it is very clear that Americans suffer from many, many mental and physical illnesses and diseases and any ONE you can think of Americans are number one for. You can see an article on Front Sight website that profiles each one of the mass shooters in the US and find ALL of them were mentally ill and ALL were on or in withdrawal from a psychotropic drug. ALL these drugs have suicide and homicide as side effects and the APA recommends putting pre-schoolers on them.

            We are a very sick nation and our government caused that in order to fulfill AGENDA 21 which depopulates the world by 90% and creates the NWO.

            Twenty one of our war vets are committing suicide daily in this nation mostly from PTSD and the damaging drugs the VA treats them with.

            Kids are killing themselves and parents are killing 27 kids weekly in the US and gays are killing themselves and broke people are killing themselves.

            We are the most violent nation on earth that is not at war and from my viewpoint it is because of the poisons we have all been ingesting for many decades.

          • DownWithLibs

            Doesn’t matter where you go. The NWO will eventually catch up to you. Though you may stay safe a tiny bit longer than some.

          • Alice Lovecraft

            eat your GMO’D raw crap, FASCIST pig ameri-SCUM! you are a supporter of the biggest war-mongering nation that has ever exixted on planet HELL! gO STICK YOUR NOSE UP SOME CORP.’S BUTT, YOU PATHETIC EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING. Young peopel, get out of the u.s. of TERROR, WHILE YOU CAN!

          • Vlad Lenin

            Global guarantor of freedom. what a crock of s**t! The American way has turned into to some mutated form of fascism with howdy dowdy and his band of evil minions at the helm.

            Years ago, I would have agreed with you. BUT, America has changed for the bad. It’s like the dead coming back as zombies. We now have a majority of Americans who are angry, completely intolerant of people who are not like them or don’t agree with them, envious, lazy and just down right stupid or ignorant of how the world works. It’s a recipe for disaster that can’t be undone.

          • GoldenEagles

            If you want to win, you must have vision for victory. The way America used to be, that is a good place to begin the process of formulating a vision of the America we want to see. All soldiers in this battle need to guard their minds against the process of self-demoralization. Don’t look at the way things are so much as the way you want them to be. Think, feel, and march in that direction. I have plaque in my office. It says, “don’t give up the ship.” A patriot of long ago said that. It is worth remembering today.

          • Gay Veteran

            you a veteran?
            no?
            Then STFU

          • GSOB

            gay Gay Gay Gay Gay! Come on now…

            Be nice.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Dude, you are fighting the good fight, but you’re fighting the serious whack job leftist worldview of the clowns that infest this board. I’m immediately reminded why I stopped coming here.

          • Gay Veteran

            no, you left because you couldn’t intelligently defend your own positions

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Ya, not so much.

          • Ralfine

            How can a country that has the most prisoners in the world be a guarantor for freedom?

          • Gay Veteran

            good points!

          • GSOB

            America is bankrupt.
            America and the rest of the planet is going down.

            If Christ tarries, we may find grace to reform the civil government, but reformation always comes with a price.

            We are on the down slope as a nation and it all has to do with leadership.

          • nekksys

            Global gaurantor of freedom? Who appointed the US to that position? The UN _uses_ our military might and prowess to enforce it’s will… As for the US being freedom’s sole gaurantor, no; I have to disagree.

            The whole idea of “those freedom-hating commies” taking over the world is now moot. Communism failed in Russia and has been failing in other nations who experimented with it. China maintains it’s footing as a communist nation simply because the culture within China is conducive to communism.

            And as for economics, the US is inextricably economically tied to so many nations that global economic collapse is a known garantee if our own economy fails. This is a known hazard of globalized economics. If the US were to remove it dependence on foreign products, labor, oil, textiles and other such, the impact of a national economic collapse would be a considerably smaller ripple in the global marketplace. As it stands, we, by virtue of our rampant consumerism and greed, are leading the charge into financial oblivion.

            In all truth, and in my personal view, the only way to “save” the US and world economy is to allow this debt-based fiasco to collapse and rebuild again; basing our economic standards on something more solid with a strong preference toward a renewable resource as the foundation.

          • GoldenEagles

            God our Father appointed America to that position.

          • Gay Veteran

            you are part of the sickness that causes us to think that we are “exceptional”

          • GSOB

            …that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; for in Him we live and move and exist,

          • Gay Veteran

            hey! stop your gropeing perv

          • GoldenEagles

            Why would you use the word “sickness” to describe the principle of American exceptionalism? Any psychologist would tell you that self-esteem is a good thing, a healthy thing. That applies to individual self-esteem and national self-esteem. Perhaps that was a poor choice of words on your part. I will give you the opportunity to explain and retract.

          • Gay Veteran

            American exceptionalism has NOTHING to do with self-esteem. Its purpose is to justify using American power to do whatever our elites want done.

            “…Perhaps that was a poor choice of words on your part. I will give you the opportunity to explain and retract…..”
            man, you reek of arrogance

          • GSOB

            …and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation,

          • DownWithLibs

            Don’t forget…”you will know them by their fruits”. And don’t we ever!

          • DownWithLibs

            Don’t bother GE. They don’t believe in God, they mock us and Him and they wouldn’t know the truth about WWII if they gave birth to it. This is why Obozo and his band of merry men want the death panels. Do away with those that know the truth…our parents and grandparents…you know, the ones that WERE THERE! But you and I both know that they will eat their words one day. They can mock us all they wish, but they can’t take what we know to be TRUE away from us. :)

          • nekksys

            Seriously??? You’re going to play the “God is on OUR side!!!” card? Isn’t that what caused the Crusades, the Inquisition and countless other atrocities in the name of God???

          • GoldenEagles

            God sponsored the birth of America for a global mission in support of the principle of freedom.

            The resources of Divine Providence have been poured out upon this nation from its inception in furtherance of this mission.

            As we see increasingly the signs of our national decline, we must ask why is this so?

            The answer is, as a nation, we have left off our mission, and done so in many ways.

            This trend of walking away from the Purposes of God in our national life must be reversed.

            The most direct step back in the right direction, towards the restoration of our access to the resources of Divine Providence, is to restore the traditional practice of prayer in the public schools.

            If I was embodied during the times of the crusades, I would have opposed it. Yes, people can do evil things in the name of religion, but it is only because these people had come to receive their inspiration, unto hate, and killing, from the demonic realm, losing their connection to the heart of Christ, and to God of Love that lives therein.

          • nekksys

            If memory serves, the main reason the Pilgrims left England was to escape religious persecution and not because of some freedom mandate from God…

            As much as I despise Liberal extremism, I also have to say I equally despise the level of religious zealotry you’ve displayed here. For example, you say we must allow prayer in schools for us to return to God’s favor. Kids can pray in school if they want. No one will stop them. Every graduation I’ve ever been to has been kicked off with a prayer. Our idiotic and embattled Congress still opens every session with prayer. Where on Earth do you get the idea that allowing prayer in schools is the one thing that will return us to Godly ways?

            It isn’t the lack of prayer in schools that has brought about this social decline: the very core of human nature is the underlying cause. We, as humans, resist everything. We resist being told what to do, how to think, what to wear, etc… unless these things are part of something we have chosen; i.e., military service. This social decline is because people do not choose God; they choose the “way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof is Death.”

            In the end, everyone must choose a side but no one can force you to believe one way or the other. Have you never heard the phrase, “You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink”?? The same is true for people…

            “You can lead a soul to the Everlasting Water, but they must choose to take the first sip.”

            Think deep…

          • GoldenEagles

            “If memory serves, the main reason the Pilgrims left England was to escape religious persecution and not because of some freedom mandate from God.”

            This is an interesting statement, that has an inherent contradiction. So far so good up to the word “and”, but after the word “and” you’re thinking process appears to have been steered off the main track, and onto a side track. You need to station guards at the track switching stations, so the lever is not pulled unless by your own conscience freewill.

            Religious persecution means that the Pilgrims were NOT FREE to practice their religion according to the requirements of their conscience. They came to America, to seek FREEDOM to practice their religion according to the requirements of conscience. The impulse to seek freedom to practice one’s religion according to the requirements of conscience, is a directive of conscience. Because God is always at the center of a healthy heart-centered conscience, this great exodus to a free land, which is the very foundation of American history, has at its very roots, the mandate of God.

            “As much as I despise Liberal extremism, I also have to say I equally despise the level of religious zealotry you’ve displayed here.”

            Did you realize that this statement indicates that you are in direct disobedience to a very important Commandment of Christ? Christ commanded us to LOVE our enemies. And this has some very important practical benefits in the dialogue opportunities that this internet technology provides. To despise is to hate. To hate is to create a barrier between your soul and the fountain of all truth and wisdom in the heart. One of the main purposes for this commandment to love one’s enemy, is to ensure that we remain connected to the domain of the heart, out of which will pour the necessary words that will help your enemy understand the error of his ways. If you just pour out your disdain upon someone, you will only alienate, and never persuade.

            “For example, you say we must allow prayer in schools for us to return to God’s favor.”

            Yes, that is correct. We must be in favor with God to receive the abundance of His blessings.

            “Kids can pray in school if they want. No one will stop them. Every graduation I’ve ever been to has been kicked off with a prayer.”

            These points, while they may be true in their limited context, they do not get to the heart of the matter. Individual prayer, and prayer for a nation, these are two different things. Because national affairs are a province of the freewill of a group of people, this group must give its permission for benefits of Divine Providence to impact their national affairs. The people must prayer as a group, and the group must authorize the divine intercession.

            “Our idiotic and embattled Congress still opens every session with prayer.”

            As a general rule, the chamber is empty when the chaplain gives the prayer.

            “Where on Earth do you get the idea that allowing prayer in schools is the one thing that will return us to Godly ways?”

            The answer to this question is in the following seven (7) parts:

            I. This idea is built on this fundamental principle, that God our Father holds in his heart the solution to all our problems. Whatever problem we have, both in terms of individuals, and in terms of nations, God holds in His heart the solution to those problems. The challenge is A) getting that solution into the minds of the people for implementation, and B) getting the virtues of love, courage and persistence into their hearts to stay the course in pursuit of the solution.

            II. This idea is built further on this fundamental truth, that there are billions of Angels serving upon the earth, and that they are ready and willing to implement the prayers of the people. Every person on earth has a guardian angel for starters. And there are other angelic legions assigned to accomplish many other important tasks that are associated with the sustaining of the life systems that we require to keep our physical bodies alive.

            III. This idea is further built on this fundamental truth, that there are forces of the darkside, the demonic realm, that are always operating, primarily within the feeling worlds of the people, to derail the operation of all virtue, to create strife and conflict among people, and to create as much chaos and ill will among people as any given situation will allow. And, as a general rule, the actions of these forces of darkness can only be blocked by the aforementioned angelic hosts. Again, as a general rule, embodied humans have no way to block this darkside influence from impacting their lives.

            IV. This idea is further built on this fundamental principle, that to get the help of God, either individually, or nationally, we must ask. Prayer is the only mechanism by which the resources of Divine Providence can flow into the hearts of God’s children. The ministering angels cannot help anyone, unless they are asked. Our freewill rules completely what they are able to do for us.

            V. This idea is further built on the fundamental understanding that there is an important difference between prayers that seek divine assistance in the life of an individual, and prayers that seek divine assistance in the affairs of a nation. In this regard, there are two categories of freewill. A) The freewill associated with the individual. And B) the freewill associated with the nation.

            VI. When it comes to prayers that seek assistance in the area of national affairs, the response of the angelic legions are limited by the boundaries of the national freewill. Areas that are exclusively within the domain of the national life, must have the freewill consent of the majority for divine intercession to impact those areas. If the consent of the majority is not given, the angelic legions cannot intercede in those domains. And those domains are left free to be invaded by these darkside forces mentioned, to create havoc. This is the core reason that the framework of the national life is slowly falling into ruin.

            VII. This idea is further built on the fundamental understanding that prayer in the public schools is an organic institution that was intended to activate the function of the national immune system, which the angelic hosts would implement in response to the children’s prayers. You see, it is justice, that the children be allowed to pray for a future worth living. But this request for assistance must be done expressed according to the consensus of the majority. As a general rule, individual prayers of individual students do not reach the area of national affairs because of this consensus requirement.

            “It isn’t the lack of prayer in schools that has brought about this social decline: the very core of human nature is the underlying cause.”

            This statement is only half true. The weakness of human nature is definitely the root issue. The people are vulnerable to all manner of darkside influences that corrupt their vision, corrupt their sense of priority, and corrupt relationships, with all manner of hate and polarization. In the area of national affairs, these weaknesses translate directly to the weakness of our national institutions. Angelic legions could block a very high percentage of these darkside influences, if they were given the authority to do so, by the prayers of the people, praying in their collective mode. All national institutions would run much more smoothly within a much lighter atmosphere of mutual respect and cooperation if the angelic legions were allowed to act within the national domain. But they are not allowed to act within the national domain. The freewill of the people on a national scale, has not be granted to them, since 1962.

            Given this fundamental precept that God our Father has all power to solve all problems, and He would shower us with knowledge of these solutions, if we only asked, than the close analysis of this question will produce a great blossoming of understanding in any mind that will take the time to probe the issue: Why doesn’t the prayer of one person, to solve all problems, allow God to act, and to solve all problems? The answer is, FREEWILL. Where the freewill of the majority of the people will not allow divine assistance to enter, you will have a place were no divine solution can become anchored.

            “We, as humans, resist everything. We resist being told what to do, how to think, what to wear, etc… unless these things are part of something we have chosen; i.e., military service. This social decline is because people do not choose God; they choose the “way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof is Death.””

            Yes, this is all true. As noted, we must understand the source of this darkside power which is at the root of our resistance to all things of God. And we must understand that the angelic legions are with us on the earth, to block the influence of that darkside power in our worlds, if we ask, with the above caveat, regarding the difference between prayers that request intercession in the affairs of the individual, and prayers that request intercession in the affairs of the nation.

            “In the end, everyone must choose a side but no one can force you to believe one way or the other.”

            The practice of school prayer was never a mandatory practice, nor could it be. If parents want their children to participate, they will participate. If parents do not want their children to participate, accommodation will be made for that.

            School prayer would have an important and constructive educational impact of course. The children would be brought up to understand that their prayers mean something. That God will listen to their prayers. And that God will respond to their prayers, especially when spoken for the benefit of the nation. This is a consensus point among the people. Ninety present of the people would agree that this would be a good thing for all citizens to understand. It is a universal belief in all of our hearts anyway.

            “Have you never heard the phrase, “You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink”?? The same is true for people.. You can lead a soul to the Everlasting Water, but they must choose to take the first sip.”

            Ninety percent of the people believe in God. Ninety percent of the people have no problem with the idea that the nation requires God’s assistance to survive, and therefore, ninety percent of the children will have no problem in joining the morning prayer on behalf of the salvation of the nation.

            Yes, the majority will of the nation would lead them unto the water. But no one is there to force them to drink. If they don’t want to participate, they don’t have to participate.

            “Think deep…”

            I believe I have obeyed this commandment in an adequate manner.

          • GSOB

            The Lord Jesus Christ reigns now and forever.

            Every sinner that comes to Christ is actually a gift from the Father to the Son.

            Only the elect will come. They have been predestined in Christ before the foundation of the world.

            The number of the elect has been set. It is fixed.

            When the last of these elect comes to faith by the sanctifying work of the Spirit – of washing by regeneration – then the end is at hand.

            The centrality and universality of God’s economy is to pick a corporate bride for His Son.

            Human marriage is metaphoric language of this purpose of God. the two shall become one flesh. This mystery is great…

            but I am speaking of Christ and the Church.

            If you are not born again …i.e. one of the elect…, perhaps you are but your time has not come.

            In the meantime, God commands all men everywhere to repent.

            Many are called but few are chosen.

            America’s lamp is going out.

          • Gay Veteran

            “…The number of the elect has been set. It is fixed….”
            so much for free will

          • GSOB

            Agree.

            It is not of him who runs or of him who wills, but it is of God’s mercy.

          • Gay Veteran

            I’ll pretend that made sense

          • GSOB

            Knock yourself up … I mean out.

          • GSOB

            Kiss the Son

          • Josh

            What about the “Great multitude washed in white”? these are in addition to the 144,000.

          • PJ London

            See Jeff Bridges “Network” finest 3 minutes of TV (google)
            Try visiting (working) outside USA and find real world.

          • Axe

            Don’t for a second think any of this hasn’t been planned. Yes, USA first, the rest will be far easier.

          • Gay Veteran

            “America is the global guarantor of freedom….”
            LOL, what a load of BS. Freedom? Tell that to the over 1,000,000 Iraqis who have died because of our war of aggression.
            And what about our ally Saudi Arabia? lot of freedom there, NOT
            get a clue, we have become a FASCIST state (fascism is the merger of corporate and state power)

          • Gay Veteran

            guess you haven’t heard about “our” government recording every phone call, every text message, every email, and every Internet search.
            Freedom? god, what a SICK joke

          • Peace Angel

            Please tell us how to do that? I wrote speeches for DC dems and republicans in the 70’s and 80’s and the things you are saying are about an America that has NOT existed for decades and the PLAN to destroy it is a hundred years in the making.

            IF you ever traveled or lived in other nations you would know that the things you are saying are NOT our America today and will NOT be America in the future.

            For the past hundred and thirty years America and the UK have been hijacked by the Bilderberg families who now run the world. Those families have been selecting our presidents for that entire time. Just google POTUS voter fraud over the past hundred years. And over the past 6 decades the New World Order has been legislated in the UK, US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Most of those have been disarmed and their economy destroyed by the same families who own all the major corporations, all the news media in these nations and all the banks including the world bank and they own wall street and all the mortgage companies and much much more. THEIR agenda and political party began with two NAZI’S and spread with these families creating a UN treaty that was signed by Bush Sr. in 1992 along with 178 other nations agreeing to DEPOPULATE the entire world by 90% and to create a utopian NWO for the world’s elitist party, the Bilderberg group.

            AGENDA 21 the creation of the NWO was made law by executive order the same year by Clinton. Bush Sr. can be seen on youtube telling Congress on 22 different occasions that we have to create the NWO now.

            The past 14 POTUS have legislatively OVERTURNED the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights starting with REX 84 and continuing with all the NDAA acts and HAARP,NAFTA, PAC NAFTA, Agenda 21 and the Patriot Act and many others especially made law by executive order. Obama has signed into law 38 executive orders that are all to create the NWO in the US. THE US is the test case for the world. Clinton and Bush Sr. pretended to hate each other for years and then as soon as Clinton left the White House the two formed a group “The NWO for the 21st century” and took to the road worldwide campaigning for it. America is over without an armed run on the White House and Congress but that would require that ALL those who do not know what is happening wake up and learn the truth about the fact that our politicians don’t run the country and there are only a handful of them who do KNOW the truth and they are made a laughing stock by those who are uninformed like the Paul father and son.

            90% of Americans have no clue this is happening and after four decades of me and others telling them they either do NOT want to know or DO NOT want to believe and refuse to do the research to know all that I have learned over four decades. America is an ostrich nation and people care less and less every year. The people who want a happier, less taxed,less stressful, less police state, less violent place to live. IF you check it every day in the US 21 of our war vets are killing themselves, because they know they fought in wars where 90% of the kills were civilians and they come home to a nation that is broken, where the NDAA act of 2011 has labeled them as “domestic terrorists” and “psychotic” and “enemies of the state” and the only help that our VA has for them is bag loads of medicines. AND now this gov. is going to run health care. I could go on for days but you are wrong to tell this man to come here. THE Army has been hiring internment guards for a decade who have reopened and refurbished 800 concentration camps and Obama has brought in 3 million troops from NATO, UN, China, Germany and Russia who are living among US citizens and telling them they are here to herd the US into the camps the moment the FEDS collapse the economy and destroy the US dollar. AND DHS insiders are saying to foreign press that it is going to happen soon and very soon. THE people who KNOW what is happening are expatriating and the number one reason they do so is that America has become a paramilitary state headed for the camps.

          • Gay Veteran

            “America is the global guarantor of freedom….”
            That is a flat out LIE. We are more than willing to support dictators (see Saudi Arabia and the rest of the oil producing countries in that area).

            “…if America falls, repercussions will sweep across the planet…”
            and live WILL go on

            “…the rising power, and shadow of totalitarianism….”
            Eyeroll. The only totalitarian nation is North Korea. China has become a garden variety dictatorship.
            And America has become a FASCIST state (fascism is the merger of corporate and state power).

          • David Horace

            “America is the global guarantor of freedom”
            Yeah, that’s why Snowden has sought asylum in Russia.
            (BTW, Putin probably prevented WW III. Deserves the Nobel Peace Prize more than Obama.)

          • Hammerstrike

            Actually, no, that is not the case today. It has not been so since a long time.

            The current system seeks to destroy the christian faith, because it competes with its own faith, political correctness.
            It seeks to abolish economic freedom, because meritocracy is poison to it and it seek to establish monopolies (Obamacare) for its cronies.
            It seeks to abolish political freedom, see attacks on the 2nd and 1st amendement and the constitution in general (refered to as a “living document”, I.E. free to be interpreted at will by politcians).
            Through the federal reserve Printing dollars (international trade currency), it is draining the world economy.

            Same thing with the EU and Euro but on a lesser scale, it is laughable to associate both these entities with what they seek to destroy, not just in Germany or Texas but worldwide.

          • Gay Veteran

            “America is the global guarantor of freedom, and this includes religious, political and economic freedom….”
            How incredibly indoctrinated you are. Global guarantor of freedom?
            In Saudi Arabia?
            In Qatar?
            Egypt? oh, I guess you think they didn’t have a military coup recently

          • GoldenEagles

            The Mission of America, its Divine Purpose, and reason for being, is to defend freedom around the globe.

            However, being a democracy, one needs to establish a consensus as to how and where our national power can be used to fulfill those ends.

            A consensus is not readily available for the use of national power in areas where freedom is not a reality for God’s Children, for example, in the countries which you have listed. Sometimes the conditions in some countries are so confusing, because of the people’s own internal conflicts, that freedom is not a possibility for them.

            Because an unsure and doubtful people will not act, in defense of freedom in a given situation, does not cancel out the mandate of our national reason for being.

            We did our best in World War I, and World War II, and in the Korean War, and in Vietnam, and more recently in Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan. We tried. But confusion and a lack of will at home certainly has blunted our sword in this regard, I admit.

          • Gay Veteran

            our resident Pharisee is back.

            “…The Mission of America, its Divine Purpose, and reason for being, is to defend freedom around the globe….”

            utter BS, we support dictators around the world, like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc. And we have overthrown democratically elected governments, like Iran (Mohammad Mosaddegh in1953).

            “…We did our best in World War I, and World War II, and in the Korean War, and in Vietnam, and more recently in Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan….”

            yet more BS, we interfered in a civil war in Vietnam, and waged a war of aggression in Iraq.

          • GoldenEagles

            Thank you for illustrating this principle so well for the reading public. That the principle of freedom does not register on the homosexual mind, other than as an object of contempt.

          • Gay Veteran

            oh lookee, our resident Pharisee thinks he is being witty

      • Brendan Anthony

        No, it’s actually Insightful!

    • Vlad Lenin

      I’m with you bro!

    • nekksys

      You are absolutely right to leave this country! Why would you stick around to be swallowed up in the deluge of violence that’s coming our way?

      I applaud your decision to emigrate as I, unfortunately, can not due to having 5 children of my own to look after and a community of people who rely on me to help plan a positive road toward a brighter future once the devastation and decimation of our economy occurs.

      If the lights are still on after the dust settles, I invite you to return and join my community. I’ll need good clear thinkers to take over when us older folks are gone.

      • fred flinstone

        sounds as if you are making some long term for sure plans, I hope they work out for you, I know if there is a total civil/economic collapse it would probably look like something from mad max with certain factions and territories so good luck with your planed utopia there mayor or sheriff or whatever title you have settled on.

        • nekksys

          There is will be no utopia. It’s simply a plan to gather people of varying talents to make our post-collapse lives a little easier; a little better. We aren’t some group of nut jobs and wackos: we’re just an enclave of good folks who want to keep each other safe and well-fed.

          In light of your “Mad Max” comparison, keep in mind that it is easier for a larger group to defened itself than it is for an individual. It’s also easier to develop and gather natural resources such as wild edibles and game while keeping the rest of the group safe and protected. Your “Mad Max” scenario (and a few far worse than that) have already been discussed and contingency plans made.

          Of course, you are also indirectly referencing The Governor from the AMC series “The Walking Dead” by calling me Mayor or Sheriff… Too bad decentralization has also been considered and implemented within my group. Leadership depends on the heads of the households within the collective. Household leaders gather and discuss issues concerning the group and we plan the group’s direction collectively. No one gets the chance to be a usurper or Governor. Sorry to disappoint…

    • El Pollo de Oro

      Young American Expat: Congratulations on your escape from The Banana Republic of America, formerly the US of A. I’m older than you (aging, jaded, cynical Gen-X-er), and at least I was able to take advantage of the prosperity of the ’90s. Your generation never had that advantage. Gen-Y has been robbed of a future by a corrupt fascist bankster oligarchy, and things are only going to get worse. Violent crime, civil unrest, high unemployment, widespread poverty, more bankster bailouts, currency debasement, mass incarceration and a vicious police state are among the “fun” things we have to look forward to in the BRA. This was a wonderful country to grow up in, but now, it’s a decaying Third World hellhole.

      • 2Gary2

        hey pollo–I am also gen x. That 90’s prosperity sure was great. I also got to take advantage of it and get my own home. At least our generation had that. I really feel for gen Y etc,

        Consider this though–we know what we are now missing whereas gen Y never had it in the first place? Who do you really think has had it better? One can’t miss what one never had?

        I can remember in the 90’s having to pay custodians $12 per hour and these were people that we had to train as they had not worked before. The more skilled made way more. We also had to provide transportation to get the unskilled to the more affluent job sites (office cleaning)

        Just think how things could be if the fed focused way more on its full-employment mandate.

        I was happy these folks could get the $12 per hour as the office building owners who were almost always in the top 5% could easily afford to pay.

        BTW-these same positions now pay $8.15 per hour and that is skilled custodians with years of experience. (trust me skilled custodians is not an oxymoron)

        • El Pollo de Oro

          2Gary2: You raise an interesting point. Is the country’s transformation into a banana republic worse for those who didn’t start out financially screwed but eventually got screwed (Gen-X and the Boomers) or those who were financially screwed to begin with (Gen-Y)? I would say that it’s worse for Gen-Y (a.k.a. Generation Broke) because they’ve been beaten over the head with the American Dream but came to realize that they never had access to it. At least Gen-X and the Boomers were able to put some money away, save and invest back when weren’t a banana republic.

          I remember when one of the World War II Generation women in my family (a secretary in a big law firm) just up and quit a job because she hated her new boss. That was around 1979. She was home less than a week before she landed a new job at higher pay. It was a different world back then, one that Gen-Y has a hard time envisioning.

          • Garromond

            That’s pretty close.

      • Gay Veteran

        and don’t forget, when all else fails they take you to WAR (Gerald Celente)

        • Rodster

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          • Jennifer Beadle

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          • markthetruth

            2 things

            1. Michael has to be careful about comparing to the Year 2000 as that was the peak of the Internet Bubble and there were People with Jobs in companies that were created out of thin air .

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            the end…

    • STH

      Good for you. I am almost 60 years old and in banking. I saw this coming years ago and have prepared. Even so, I would love to leave for a better place as well. You owe no loyalty to a pleace that will destroy your life and future..

      • Bobby

        So, run away, instead of fight, thus making the sacrifice of hundreds of thousands before you meaningless. I see.

        • David Horace

          Only rats remain on a sinking ship.

          • Max Smith

            Actually rats don’t remain on a sinking ship. That’s a myth.

          • GoldenEagles

            America is the last hope. The last ship. This fiat given by one of our founding fathers, “Don’t Give Up the Ship” is not just for the saving of America, it is for the saving of the very idea of freedom across the entire planet.

          • Gay Veteran

            considering the dictatorships we protect (for example, Saudi Arabia), freedom will do very well without us

          • karlleuba

            Rats desert sinking ships. It is like the Miner’s Canary. When the bilges begin to fill with water the rats head for dry land. Real rats know how to survive.

          • chefshitpiece

            I’m not fighting for the society that back-turned me when my father left. No WAY!

        • chefshitpiece

          Were not the ones who made the sacrifice meaningless…you can blame that on the screaming legions of
          -hockey fans
          -hip-hoppers
          -liberals
          -Baby Boomers
          and all other manner of stupidity and cultural degredation. Not the vibrant youth such as myself that stay informed and have something original to say.

      • El Pollo de Oro

        STH: I have a friend who is an 86-year-old holocaust survivor. He was living in Italia with his parents when Il Duce got chummy with Hitler. Being Jewish, the family found that development to be extremely troubling, to say the least. So they left Europe for South America, which is why my friend is still alive (he eventually moved to the US). Had they decided to “stay and fight,” they’d likely be dead now. And when my friend hears me talk about how the former USA is now a Third World fascist banana republic, he agrees with me completely. This guy should know, having witnessed fascism in Europe and Latin America first hand. So you’re absolutely right: Young American Expat owes no loyalty to a failing country that will destroy his life and his future.

        • AG

          Yes. My family were jews in europe and saw it coming too – so they went to London. I am sure I only exist because of their foresight. I was a kid in London for a few years, but born here, which gives me the ability to see the US from the outside AND from the inside. It always surprises me that even now – under these current conditions – so many American’s are completely unable, unwilling to see the US objectively. The old system is dead, it just doesn’t know it yet. Kind of like a Financial Zombie.

    • Piglet

      Young American Expat: You are wise beyond your years, and as time goes on you’ll be even more glad you took the path you did.

      Some may criticize you for leaving the USA, but just because conditions were favorable in the past doesn’t mean they are now or will be in the future. No one had any obligation to ride the Titanic to the bottom of the ocean and you need not follow the USA on its downward spiral. And if anyone starts with “well, back in World War Two” fairy tales, remember that it took place 70 years ago and it has no bearing on your plans for the present and the future.

      Come to think of it, WW II does have some relevance to your plans – just not the way most people think. If you read the book “Human Smoke” by Nicholson Baker, written about the period leading up to the war when most of the 60 million who would die were still alive, you’ll see that many people were frozen in place by a state of denial, and they could have saved their lives and those of their loved ones if they had done a clear-eyed assessment of what was taking place and what was coming and then taken action. Instead, they remained with what was familiar rather than leaving for faraway lands, and they were enveloped by police states, concentration camps, and the most devastating war the world had ever known. As you read the book you want to shout at people, “Run! Run while you still can, while there’s still time!” but you already know how the story ended. You were far wiser than most of those in the book who stayed in place and perished.

      Two of the very best things anyone can do are to (1) live overseas and (2) learn foreign languages. One’s perspective of life outside of the USA will be far different from those who sit here wearing blinders, chanting “USA! USA!” and insisting the [not really] “exceptional” USA is God’s Country while knowing nothing about the world around them except silly propaganda fed to them by a manipulative news media and our own government. In the future there will be many more who will wish they followed in your footsteps while there was still the time and opportunity to do so.

      By the way, I must commend you on your clearly written, intelligent comments. As you may have noticed, many post badly written, ill-informed comments that often border on gibberish. With a clear head such as yours, you sound like you have a very promising life ahead of you.

      • Garromond

        Just a thought. Running is a great solution to solving problems. Cowards do it all the time.

        To belong to an exceptional group one must participate and contribute to that group. Good luck over there.

        • Piglet

          There is nothing exceptional about Americans but their inflated egos
          (and teenage pregnancy, obesity, and many other unpleasantries). At some
          point in the future, this baseless belief in “exceptionalism” will
          encounter something dreadful known as “reality.”

          In
          military pilot training courses, student pilots are taught how to deal
          with emergency situations in the aircraft. They are also taught to think
          ahead and determine when a situation is so far gone that one must exit
          the aircraft while there’s still time. Many pilots have lost their lives
          while trying to “he-man” the aircraft out of a hopeless situation and
          died in the inevitable crash. By the time they finally admit to
          themselves that nothing can turn the situation around, it’s too late.

          This is what most people do – they wait until it’s too late.

          There’s
          nothing cowardly about looking ahead, doing an honest, clear-headed
          assessment of what the future holds and taking action. Waiting to see
          what the crowd does while concerning oneself with little more than
          what’s on TV tonight is downright foolish.

          Like a
          pilot in a failing aircraft, there’s no point in sticking around when
          you can’t fix what’s wrong and things will only go from bad to worse.

          What is cowardly is ignoring what’s taking place, making no plans, and taking no action. Complacency kills.

        • chefshitpiece

          Fighting when you know you MIGHT win is courage….fighting when you know you WILL lose is stupidity.

    • 1sgmikec

      while I (somewhat) agree with what you are saying, you also demonstrated exactly why you could be successful here.
      The problem with the 20-29 age group these days is that they are lazy and lack the work ethic necessary to be worth taking the major risk on.
      Before everyone berates me for that comment, think about how the younger generation feels they are owed the big paycheck, the long lunch breaks, the twitter/facebook/etc time for updates…and so on.
      How many are really willing to get up, be to work on time (not sure why that has become so difficult) and work a steady 8-10 hour day. Again, don’t kid yourself…you are starting out, it will take a lot of extra effort.
      And quite honestly, if you are not willing to exert yourself in this manner, tell me why I should take a chance on you?

      • Gay Veteran

        gee, and the older generation feels they are owed Social Security and Medicare.
        what’s the total of all that? over 100 TRILLION dollars?
        the young will NOT be tax slaves for our benefit

      • Peace Angel

        You need to read a lot more articles on this blog. The ppl. running the US plan to collapse the economy and destroy the US dollar and take you to fema concentration camps. HE IS very smart to get out.

      • El Pollo de Oro

        Sgmikec: I totally disagree with your view of Generation Y (and this is coming from an aging Gen-Xer who graduated from college in the 80s). The Millennials have it a lot worse than I did when I was their age. They can look forwarding to working three times as hard for half the pay, assuming they can even find a job. Young American Expat doesn’t come across as lazy to me. He just wants his hard work to be rewarded. Who can blame him for leaving this broken down mess than my once-great country has become? Best of luck to Young American Expat.

      • Young American Expat

        You should take a chance on me because I already have proven to all around me that I can work my butt off. I pulled an Ivy league degree by working two jobs (40 hours during the academic year combined, and 70/55 hours every month with a two week rotation during the summer months) both in factories (the longest day I ever had was 17.5 hours, with the average workday being 13.5 hours). There is nothing like sweat, blood and tears to show the value of something. So while the rest of my much wealthier classmates were having trouble deciding which designer purse or clothes to buy, or which five star resort to stay at, I was focused on making sure my academic work was done and completed, putting food on the table, gas in my 20 year-old car, and managing my time to such an extant, that for me at least, college was tantamount to prison since I had no time for friends, to socialize, travel or even do much outside of work or school. I did that for 5 very long years. So much for being lazy! That’s why after all of that and the economic crisis in 2008-9, I did a thorough gut check. The numbers, the actions of TPTB, the social environment, the COLAs, the lack of economic opportunities said it was time to pack up on move on to other pastures and other opportunities. So the real question is not why should you take a chance on me, rather why should I take a chance on you, the very people who showed me the door and told me and others like me to get lost. So I obliged and all I can say is “Thank you!”

        And for your observation that most people of my generation are lazy, actually most of them are not. It’s rather they just don’t see the point of working hard since the rewards, despite the harping in grade school, have been so low to non-existent that most see working hard as a waste of time and effort with a low return on investment. So most of us unfortunately have not seen or observed the hard work equals success formula in action, rather the cheat, lie, steal and be lazy it will come no matter what formula has had a much higher and more successful profile in recent years (at least in America). So people, naturally copy what is successful. If you don’t believe me, look at the banking sector. They do it all the time and people just shrug their shoulders and move on.

        -Young American Expat in Asia

    • squashpants

      Young fella, unfortunately, your action makes complete sense and wisdom in the present day. Good luck to you, and we are sorry to lose someone with so much sense.

    • Peace Angel

      I have been counseling 20 year olds for years in what careers to pursue and what jobs they would be suited for and more. TODAY I tell them to leave the US and have been telling them this since 2000 when I learned about the plans to crash our economy by the FEDS and to destroy the US dollar as is happening now in spades and when I learned about the junk mortgages that were being put into the system. AND in 1992 when Bush Sr. signed a UN agreement which Clinton made law the same year to create the NWO starting in the US titled AGENDA 21. And I began learning how much happier, more free and less taxed and less stressed that people can be anywhere in the world but here from reading expat blogs I began directing these kids to get out and many have left the country and are thriving as you are abroad. It is sad that your forefathers ran you out of a nation where your family is and forced you to look for greener pastures BUT you did the right thing and you will see that sooner than you think. GOOD ON YA!!!

    • seth datta

      I’m in the UK. I have two science degrees. I’m about to get my medical degree. I speak 6 languages, amongst other educational achievements. UK is destroying itself and is finished. I have lived in several other countries and plan to leave real soon. The banksters central lynchpin is this country and this place has a severe problem in that the population of 80 million is far too high for the current available resources to this country.

      • piccadillybabe

        They tell us education is key to success in life but I have my doubts. I wouldn’t waste another dollar on so-called higher education. What a crock it is.

        • GSOB

          You can buy an education.

          Wisdom is a gift.

      • English Kev

        The central Lynchpin being the Guelphs maybe and their agenda of population reduction? Agenda 21 will be implemented.

    • piccadillybabe

      If you leave the US, you can always get a job teaching ESL in foreign countries. I hear a high school education is all that is needed and they pay around $30K+ a year. There are websites for it. Something to think about.

    • GSOB

      How much college loan debt you owe (owed)?

      • Young American Expat

        Started at 20k and now I am at zero. Did it all in two and a half years. I ran some numbers on COLAs for both where I am now and if I stayed in the US. The results were this: I was saving 75% of my paycheck every month(which I spent on paying back my debt at a very accelerated rate). If back in the US it would be closer to 5% and would have taken me closer to 7 years(realisticaly 8) and I would have to pay interest on top of all of that. The end result was no contest. If I had not moved away, I would be another statistic. Not doing that on yours or anyones life.

        -Young American Expat in Asia

        • GSOB

          Sorry I asked.

    • Pat Henry

      I definitely can’t blame ya. I graduated with a BA in 2010 and feel mostly the same way about the state of this country. I was close to graduating with a dual major but by that point, I had realized that my student debt was already more than I would be able to handle in the real world of Obama’s America. Or Bush’s America. Or whomever you want to blame it on, it all really stems from the global banking cartel behind the curtain, pulling the strings in D.C. and manipulating the hell out of the markets and the media.

      I had looked into leaving the country for work before graduation, but I don’t think I could ever find another country to permanently call home. Many of my ancestors were here before 1776, including (not to be too pretentious or anything) a captain under George Washington, so I kind of feel a strong connection to America.

      We are called the “Entitlement Generation” because so many were brainwashed into believing in the American Dream, and were enabled early and often until the time came to realize this dream. Then the veil was lifted and the unprepared were faced with major cognitive dissonance when finding out that the job market was not all corner offices and four-week vacations, but retail jobs and cold calling.

      We all expected more, but the only things I’ve felt entitled to are my rights as an American as outlined in the Constitution. I am more than willing to stay here and fight to turn the tide against the banking swine and their bastardizing of our government.

      I wish Young American Expat luck and also the other U.S. emigrants who are doing what they know is best for their futures. I’m not an optimist but I try stay positive, anticipating the day we finally take this country back from international bankers and their puppets. It will take a MAJOR event but eventually, awareness of the bankers’ intents will reach critical mass. But what do I know? I drive a delivery van around Los Angeles to scrape out a living.

    • Pauly

      “…never come back ” More like never come back in your lifetime. Freedom and prosperity come and go, and right now the U.S. is in serious decline with respect to those.

      • Young American Expat

        For sure not in the next decade or so except for family visits. For a lifetime, most likely, though I am still meditating on that. I will say I am leaning strongly towards never for the moment.

        -Young American Expat in Asia

    • Another young American Expat

      My thoughts exactly. So I went to New Zealand.

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  • markthetruth

    Why is it though here in NJ the High School students are driving new Hummers, Acura’s, Land rover’s and more . The Parents are spoiling them. The going joke is they drive better cars then the teachers.

    the end.

  • K

    You ask what does all this mean, for our future? I would say look to the past. And I say this with sadness When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. –

  • Monquarter

    It’s the same way here in Canada

  • SafetyViking

    Planning will help eliminate some -definitely not all- of those problems. Why kids -especially boys- in college continue to pursue worthless degrees that offer NO job prospects is beyond me. (A degree in English? Really?!)

    • Young American Expat

      I did plan. However like any plan, once it meets reality, it needs to be adapted. The fact that I could earn the same amount of money starting out, have lower living expenses, pay off my student debt, travel and learn a foreign language(add to the five I already know) and culture and later on have other job opportunites, man I would crazy not to go. This is what the US use to offer people like me: opportunity. Now it is only opportunity to those who already have money. So like others now, I go and seek my fortune abroad since my own country can’t do the same (sadly).

      -Young American Expat in Asia

      • SafetyViking

        The point is, you did plan. Then you adjusted. Same old story: adapt or die. I did the same thing; just made a boatload of coin in Saudi & not only paid off all remaining debt but paid cash for my home & have a substantial sum put away for whatever comes next….

        • Young American Expat

          Exactly! Same idea, just different place.

          -Young American Expat in Asia

          • SafetyViking

            I salute ya, sir…
            Cheers!

      • vlad the impaler

        I can’t blame you bud. I spent my time in SE Asia already and don’t want to go back. I’m happy it’s working out for you.

    • Alice Lovecraft

      WHAT LANGUAGE DO YOU SPEAK, ameri-SCUM MORON????????

      • SafetyViking

        How quaint. However, your humorous -albeit quite sad- attempts to engage in some sort of misdirected debate will go unheeded. I could not even BEGIN to describe the depths of the eff I do not give about what you -or anyone else- thinks. Go away, you sad little she-thing…

      • Peace Angel

        You must think you are on yahoo. People on this blog don’t speak to each other like you are speaking. We are civilized and engaging with all kinds of political views here. You really are sick.

  • Nitpicker

    Can you inform me who promised whom a good job? Your logic and the biased manner in which sometimes express yourself is embellishment to the Nth.

    • Young American Expat

      I understood there were no guarantees to be had. And despite the opinons here I DID NOT study English, rather Computer Science with a focus on computer programming, security and networking (they all overlap on some parts and to some degree). The issue was at the time I graduated, every business was scared that the end would come tomorrow. Obviously that hasn’t happen yet, but at the time it was the same as no job. So I was forced to think outside the box. Thus I left. Since then the trends have only been reinforced downward. So now I plan on opening my own business sometime soon, but not in the US. The fact that America would drive people like me away, simply over opportunity and productivity is crazy, but that is how it currently stands.

      -Young American Expat in Asia

      • Orange Jean

        I’m sorry you had to leave to make it work for you, but it sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders.

      • El Pollo de Oro

        Young American Expat: The Banana Republic of America has failed your generation badly, and you were smart to leave.

      • K

        You did what you needed to do, well done. I will only add one thing. If the economic collapse is global as many think. Observe your surroundings carefully. When the pressure gets severe, people stop looking for solutions. They tend to start looking for scapegoats. I call it, the burn the witch syndrome. There may come a time to leave, do not miss the signs.

  • eff

    hi debt hi unemployment
    whats next for you morons
    hardwork anyone
    didn’t think so

  • ian

    it’s very simple. Quit force feeding young people the horrendous lie that they need college in order to survive. I never set foot in a college classroom, and have never been broke or desperate. Not once.

    • XSANDIEGOCA

      Nothing but a support scheme for the campus elites. My brother in law is a plumber. Never finished high school. Owns his home free and clear. Owns land. Is retired. You get the message.

  • eff

    Maybe if we all turn one statistic into thirty everything could be understood and ok.

  • eff

    Killing for another is not handwork it is ignorance.

  • eff

    hard

  • Brendan Anthony

    Try to see that the monetary system is faith based. – A game of “confidence”. So, reason with me here o.k. If enough people lose faith in that system, it will collapse. From the below comments, life stories & statistics, it looks like many are losing faith, right?? END GAME!

    • Jimbo

      I see this daily on the mainstream media comments pages. More and more people are becoming aware that we are all signed up to a ponzi scheme.

      The end game is happening now. Britain, the USA, Eurozone etc. have all promised to control debt and then failed.

      Our industrial base has been shipped east and we have nothing left to export apart from our currency.

      It really is game over.

      • Brendan Anthony

        Very well said Jimbo

  • bobcat

    We are now reaping a bitter harvest whose seeds were sown when all the high paying jobs were outsourced to low wage countries.

    • Jimbo

      I worked in China supervising workers earning $5 a day who were doing the work that had been outsourced from the Australian company I worked for where workers were paid $200 a day.
      It changed my view of the world.
      On the one hand I was happy that Chinese people had work and on the other hand I wondered what this would mean for my economy back home.

      The simple answer is that there we be a re-balancing of living standards thoughout the world.
      The living standards of the Chinese peasant worker will increase while our standards decrease.

      The west will not begin to compete with the east until we are on an equal footing.
      The cheap Chinese made flat screen 3D TV we bought in the department store will end up costing us a lot more than we thought.

      • Gay Veteran

        we need to tear up these lies called “free trade” agreements which only benefit multi-national corporations

  • JustanOguy

    Don’t waste your money on worthless degrees… (Basically all majors in the Liberal Arts Departments)

    I have no sympathy for somebody who racks up $100K in student loan debt for a
    B.S. degree in Women’s Studies, English, blah, blah, blah.

    Spend your tuition money on learning a needed trade or a skilled degree.

    • roo08

      and then when those markets become over saturated, then what? this is what is currently happening in law and nursing. It’s getting harder and harder to find jobs no matter how you adapt and plan because there are so many other people doing the same thing.

      • Orange Jean

        True to a point… but it can work if you can think in terms of transferable skills and are adaptable and persistent! Focus more on what skills the particular type of degree provides you with rather than on the name of the major.

        For example, I have two somewhat useless degrees in terms of getting work in those actual fields (AAS in commercial art, BA in anthropology and MS in geography), but I also took a couple of hard statistics courses, learned to manage and analyze data, and developed computer programming in a language that is in demand in the field I ended up in… I managed to get a decent job despite the shortcomings of what I chose for a major.

        Being good at report writing and making graphics from my data that are clear and easy for the math-phobic reader to grasp the concept has also been important.

        So… it wasn’t what I got the degree in that helped so much; but having the degree of a certain level was required just to get me in the door. Once I got in I had to prove I could do the work and my skills are what enabled me to do that. Realize that it may take a lot of persistence though; I wanted to work in public health and I spent SIX years trying to get into the field since I had those funky other degrees, not an MPH (the normal requirement for public health entry level jobs).

        The first job I had after college was as a data manager and analyst. At the time I didn’t even know what data management was – I had to figure it out to do the work!

        It was having smarts and solid skills to back up the fact that I had the degree…. is what kept me able to stay there once I got my foot in the door.

        I only mention all this stuff because I hope this helps someone who is trying to figure out what they want to do and especially if you already have a degree and are having trouble figuring out how to get started in your career.

  • RarefiedSnotress

    MIchael is gayly going back to his men statistics.

  • Steve

    Tough.

    Per your article “they discovered that the good jobs that they had been promised were not waiting for them at the end of the rainbow”

    WHO promised them jobs? Ain’t no such thing.

    Per your article “discover that the “bright future” that the system had been promising you”

    Who in this “system” promised them a bright future?

    Who forced them to assume Student loan Debt?

    And your sniveling 26 y.o. that decided to major in English and then drop out…give me a break. Why did he not major in a hard science or math or engineering or computers? Duh here.

    And you can take reason #30 and place it where the sun don’t shine. These whiners voted for Obama. The youth vote went to Obama. Now you youngsters just need to suck up the results of your vote, grow up and get a life. DO NOT blame previous generations for your ‘problems’. Instead solve them.

    I have had to “retool” myself 3 times in my 61 years of life. I survived to include going outside of the U.S. to get job.

    All I can say is you got what you voted for. Hope you are enjoying that Obama vote and being put into eternal personal servitude via Student Loan Debt that the Obama Gov’t has taken over at almost credit card rates and NOT giving you a bail out as Obama did the banks.

    You voted. You got it. Now live with it.

    • Gay Veteran

      “#30 Young Americans are becoming increasingly frustrated that previous generations have saddled them with a nearly 17 trillion dollar national debt that they are expected to make payments on for the rest of their lives.”
      hmmmmm, I think a LOT of older Americans are about to get screwed out of their Social Security and Medicare. Low income jobs means low income tax receipts.
      Now live with that!

  • Buddy199

    “It seems to me that if you went to college and took on student debt, there used to be greater assurance that you could pay it off with a good job,” said the Colorado native, who majored in English before dropping out.
    ————
    Anybody else see his problem here?

    After high school, my 24 year old nephew went to school to be a helicopter mechanic. He started at $80,000 / year and just recently was certified as an FAA inspector making $120,000 / yr. English Lit and Womyns Studies will get you a great job pouring coffee at Starbuck’s.

    • NCBrian

      amen. news flash: there’s not a huge market for 22 year-olds with a BA in English. the very fact that you finished college isn’t a big enough achievement any more.

      if you really love english that much, get a library card and save yourself tens of thousands of dollars. or at the very least double major in something else as well to protect yourself.

      Because unless you plan on going to law school or you are one of the few who can go on to Academia or the even fewer who can be successful as a writer, you’re going to be doing exactly what this kid is doing…not much.

      I majored in music, but i also got a BS in Chemistry and went to medical school. they can’t take away my love of music, but I certainly had an easier time finding a job than I would have with a BA in music.

      I don’t mean to be indifferent towards the arts and I suppose it’s too bad that this is the way it is, but that’s the hard truth.

      As a parent I don’t know what to do – my kids aren’t college-aged yet, but I’m fairly certain that if they tell me they are going to college to study English or most other liberal arts, they better not expect me to pay for it. Hopefully that won’t come to pass…

  • Steve Myles

    At nearly 60 years of age I should be looking forward to retirement. I have not accumulated a retirement account and so expect to continue to work. I am not depending on social security etc…… Another part of the equation of the young being unable to find jobs is the fact that so many of us older people cannot move on to, what was, a natural conclusion to years of hard work. RETIREMENT It is like having a child that dies an untimely death and the parent, who has lived a long life, stating that there should be an order to things. Well, I would stand aside for any young person willing to work if I were able to do so. I can’t but I don’t see scores of young people lining up to apply for my 7.25/hour job either. It is a sad state of affairs.

  • Vlad Lenin

    Imagine that… an english major that couldn’t find a job. The problem is most of the majors these days would be completely unemployable if not for employers requiring at least a bachelors for minimal BS jobs.

    This is one of the systemic problems in the US. You can’t have everyone going to university. We are so fracked!!!! We have moved away from manufacturing to a service/knowledge based economy only to find out all that “higher” education really isn’t necessary for the majority of people. I honestly don’t a give a s**t if the guy making my milkshake is a well rounded lad with a deep appreciation of Socrates. All I want is a strawberry shake that doesn’t taste like a chocolate shake and a large fries… chop, chop.

  • Orange Jean

    I have been working for the past 8 years in a place were the vast majority of my co-workers are under 30, mostly interns (paid very well, I might add). Not all, but most of them… seem to start their career thinking they know it all and can get quite hostile when working with experienced people.

    I believe a lot of their problems in getting jobs comes from their poor attitude when first approaching the workplace. This comes from 2 main things: 1) parents who spoiled the kid rotten, telling them that nearly every breath they take was “amazing” , “awesome” etc.

    2) teachers who reinforced the notion that everything the kids do is utterly, unbelievably wonderful… no matter what they did. No criticism allowed for work that was poorly done as it would hurt their “self-esteem:…

    The Gen Y folks I’ve worked with who DO seem to get on and thrive in the workplace are more apt to be those who are willing to humble themselves at least to a point where they realize maybe they can learn from the people in the same line of work who have many years of experience.

    Just sayin’!

  • Cincinnati Dave

    All of this has been planned. It’s all about tracking and controlling the masses. It’s all leading to a one world government and economy. Our ONLY hope is the soon return of our Lord and Saviour – Jesus Christ!

  • Steve Myles

    There are no guarantees in life, only opportunity. I have worked as a janitor, material handler, welder, cost accountant, controller, real estate agent, packed eggs into cartons, etc….. All work is profitable. I have always worked at something. It may not have been what I wanted to do but few have that luxury in life. Somewhere there is someone who never had the opportunities you have had but has worked at A job for years. If you are ever made to be a supervisor over that person you should approach them with the deepest respect and take their advice. Your advantages don’t count for much

  • Jacob

    Hahaha, the joke is on the yuppies. Look at your life and decide your overpriced drudgery is worth the Output, and understand your life is worth the same of those Uneducated. Enjoy the Materialistic Wall of Ignoramus Following and see you are abiding to your own Slavery. Along with the fall of your twisted Yuppy enjoyment of Temporary Enjoyment: seeing the fall of the actual basis of such Liberty, which such Enjoyments see Privilege.

  • XSANDIEGOCA

    Advice to the young: Shun Obama Care. Just another wealth transfer scheme. Uncle Obama is counting on you to sign up! Do not do it.

  • W0X0F

    In 1975, couldn’t find a job with a BS in Science, so I worked construction and made a decent living until a better job came along.

    Now, all the construction jobs appear to be held by illegals. No where for the new college grad to turn except tending bars, etc.

  • MadMoto

    How many of these “college grads” majored in Engineering, Computer Sciences, etc. versus Art History, Kinesiology, or Basket weaving?

    If you take out a loan to learn about this history of paintings, with the VERY limited number of curator jobs, that’s your problem.

    • Gay Veteran

      The ONLY reason they could get these kind of college loans is because the government will not allow these loans to be discharged in bankruptcy. Without this guarantee then the loans would NOT be given

      • MadMoto

        I partially agree. Not being able to discharge the debt is one thing, but, having it insured and backed by the taxing power of the Fed is another. I think a large chunk of these are Sallie Mae type deals.

        • Gay Veteran

          very good points. that is why college tuition has gone up so much: artificially high demand

          • MadMoto

            I agree. The idea that everyone should or needs to go to college, own a home, and have a 100K/year career at the governments expense is what has gotten us here today.

          • Gay Veteran

            the banksters helped cause the mess we’re in, committing fraud by giving people mortgages when they knew the money would never be paid back (and the artificially high demand drove up housing prices)

  • Ralfine

    Imagine, parents would pay for their children’s college and living costs. Then the wealth of the 65 year olds would be lower, the young had less debts, the banks would earn less interests, students could finish university faster with less need to work, and these students’ jobs could be done by regular unemployed.

  • DJohn1

    The military started this college thing. No one can be an officer without a college degree.
    It is about money making for the colleges. They are in turn partnered with all the major corporations out there. There is definitely a glass ceiling for anyone that comes into business as a worker without a college degree. Doesn’t really matter what the degree is in. One of my last managers was an arts major. Had no experience. The last one was a fairly intelligent young(middle aged) woman. She was a manager at the local grocery store on the night shift. No experience on the job she was trying to do.
    Technical skills not required.
    Many of us had 30 or more years of experience dealing with all kinds of problems in our business. But none of us were qualified college grads so none of us were qualified to be managers!
    Many of us served 6-year apprenticeships. A trained person in my trade had approximately 10,000 dollars worth of training specifically in the business we were in. That was more than an equivalent education in college. Plus empiracle knowledge of the many situations that occur that can and will cost a company big money in lost revenues you would think that management would consider people for management positions. They do not.
    Only useless college grads need apply for management. That is the way it is. That these people did not even have an elementary knowledge of our business was not relevant.
    This all started at the end of World War II. And it was definitely the Elite that put it all together.
    Is it a conspiracy? Well, since all the companies require this education qualification I guess you could say so.
    General Curtis LeMay of Stragetic Air Command was the first that I know of to recognize this as a problem in the military. The problem is inexperience not intelligence. He started a warrant officer program with four ranks of warrant officer. To be a warrant officer you had to have years of experience as a non-commissioned officer and usually a rank of at least Master Sergeant. He bypassed the officer system to get experienced people running things. A W-4(top ranked non-commissioned warrant officer) was just under the base commander (Lt. Col. or above) and that worked. His command was the most sought after command in the Air Force. These were the brightest and the best at what they did.
    I criticize the college system because it is faulty. People have to spend years repeating knowledge they all ready have because it is a money system rather than an education system. A decent system would allow you to challenge out and be placed where you need to be to get a degree. And the degrees would not be in subjects that are nonsense degrees with no practical application in real life.

  • Bushisugly

    The school system in the western world, America in particular, is a scam. They trap your mind, waste your time and on top of that they make smart pepole pay large sums to take an education that is virtually useless in the real world.

  • Rufus T. Firefly

    66% of the 18-29 age group voted for Obama in 2008. They are getting exactly what they deserve.

    • Gay Veteran

      hey Dufus, our economic problems have been building up over DECADES

      • GSOB

        Its Rufus, not Dufus…
        can’t you reed?

        • Gay Veteran

          can’t you “reed”?

    • geauxgeaux

      So 2/3rds of that age group saw more benefit for themselves in casting a vote for O.

      What underlying problems in their lives would make that choice seem rational, do you think?

  • Jim

    Young people put Obama in office, now they can live with those consequences.

    • ian

      yep…this is all obamas fault. Maybe you should go to school. Seems you might need some more education.

    • Gay Veteran

      eyeroll, AS IF our problems started with Obama

      • GiantM

        wow you are lost, and I can consider you another informed Obama voter.

        • Gay Veteran

          because anyone who dares disagree with you is an Obama voter.
          btw, I did not vote for Obama. But then it didn’t matter, Obama and Romney were 2 sides of the same coin. Or haven’t you figured that out yet?

  • sherlock32555

    They were sold a false bill of goods just like everyone else. Nothing will ever change because the people will kept buying what they are selling!

  • hobo

    It is sad what has been done by greedy capitalists that shipped Americas economy and jobs overseas for the purpose of maximum profit. Where I have to disagree is about the 17 T debt the older generation left them. No that was yet another act of a small circle at the top that robbed everybody young and old.
    I am not 20/30 but even I have spent my life barely making it going from one low paying job with no benefits to another.
    I think the generation that would now be these people grand parents, lets say 65+, were the last ones to benefit from a society that cared about the well being of it’s citizens, since then unregulated capitalism has destroyed not only the economy of this country but countries around the world.
    The elites biggest trick is to lay the blame of their actions at the feet of somebody else, more times than not even the feet of their victims, as in this case they already point to the older generation and say. Look what they did to you, leaving you with their bad debts to pay.
    No you the wall street business men, the global corporations and bankers bankrupted this country, not the working citizens of any of the generations in it.

  • El Pollo de Oro

    When I was growing up in the ’60s, 70s and early 80s, there were different paths to financial success depending on what you were good at. I live in Philly, and I knew folks who went to college and did really well for themselves with college degrees as well as blue-collar guys who went to trade school and earned a good living as plumbers, carpenters, bricklayers, construction workers, machinists, etc. The American economy worked really well for college graduates as well as blue-collar workers. But that was when we were still the United States. Now, we’re The Banana Republic of America, a crap service economy that is failing both white-collar workers and blue-collar workers. You have an entire generation of youths, Generation Y, who have been condemned to miserable poverty and dead-end jobs while the bailed out bankster tyrants who robbed the country blind live high on the hog in gated communities. But this Ponzi scheme is unsustainable because so many youths are broke, they aren’t going to be pumping money into the economy.

    When you have a whole generation that can expect to do much worse than their parents and grandparents, it’s a recipe for disaster. The country is screwed. When the money stops flowing down to the man on the street, the blood begins to flow in the streets (Gerald Celente). Get ready for violent crime and civil unrest galore, and the Homeland Security goons who were empowered by George “Dumb-Ya” Bush and continue to be empowered by Barack “Goldman Sachs” Obama will be happy to shoot people dead in the streets. There will be an absolute bloodbath in The Banana Republic of America.

  • Natural Born Fool

    OK, so here’s the deal…..quit your @#$M sniveling and go make something happen. The “system” will not help you…. no system will. Only freedom a good idea and hard work will do that. Put your faith in your fellow man and be good enough so he will put his faith in you, then you will never fail. Teach your children to look out for eachother and the little guys then success will be easy, just be sure you don’t define success as “making all the money I can” rather define it as “the progressive realization of a worthy idea” stay out of debt…stay out of debt…stay of slavery.

  • David McElroy

    Back when Americans lived and worked primarily on family farms, higher education and employment were not problematic. It was not uncommon, but desired, for multigenerational farm living arrangements. There was always plenty of resources, and plenty of work. At least as long as the “hayseeds” did not allow themselves to fall into the “city slicker” traps set by the banksters and marketing industrialists plotting to separate the farm folks from their land with debt and make them depend upon the artifices of their fiat currency system leading them into slavery with delusions of grandeur. The land sustains us, as the Lord intended. Mammon’s system will not.

  • 2Gary2

    And the best stat–Young people under 30 are not conservative. Most of the depressing stats Michael wrote are a direct result of conservative policies that funnel wealth to the top 1%. The best thing about them is that the young folks KNOW it is conservative policy that caused their plight and guess what–THEY VOTE. LIBERAL.

    It must really suck to be a conservative and watch your party self-destruct, hopefully for the next generation or 2.

    Yep folks-there will never be another republican president. (actually Obama is a moderate republican).

    • Boo-urns

      Really? Last time I checked he was a far (FAR)-left Democrat. Not that that makes it any better or worse, both parties completely and utterly suck about equally.

      • Gay Veteran

        uh, no, he serves his corporate masters just like Bush did

    • Tobias Smith

      lmao, please take gayveterans weiner out of your mouth

      • Gay Veteran

        what, and place it in yours? no thanks, I have standards

    • DiscouragedOne

      Newsflash…they don’t like the Liberals either!

  • Lt_Greyman_NVA

    I thought Diversity was our Strength? Isn’t all those H1-B visa Indians boosting the economy to new heights? Isn’t the rich diversity of 30 million illegal workers creating jobs? Isn’t the majority of the black population who are on welfare bringing the unemployment level to all time lows?

    Now we see it. H1-B visas displace educated American employees, illegals displace entry level jobs for the young or just starting out and the taxes necessary to support the welfare population hurt everyone.
    But Remember:
    War is Peace!
    Freedom is Slavery!
    Diversity is Strength!

    • Gay Veteran

      H1-B visas have nothing to do with diversity. They have everything to do with multinational corporations paying the cheapest price they can for labor.

  • Naples Florida

    The America I remember (age 46) no one needed a college education. My mother stayed at home and my father had the same manufacturing job for 43 years. My father bought his first house at 19. Everyone I knew had a manufacturing job, a single family home, a car, lived in the suburbs and retired with a pension. Many people I knew had all of this and only had a grade school education, like my grandparents. Without manufacturing jobs, American’s will discover that they are not working class, or even middle class, but they are poor. More and more degrees in a service sector, part time retail economy will not get you out of the slavery of debt. Obama is no savior to the Millennial Generation, for he is a professor not a producer. He has no experience of creating jobs, just creating more debt. Sincerely, Generation X.

    • Jimbo

      And in China they make the stuff the USA used to make and the workers live in poverty. This is because the USA buys the stuff they make with dollars (debt). The USA gets free stuff and the Chinese get paper. The Chinese sit on the paper waiting for an opportunity to spend it. When they do decide to spend their paper Dollars the US economy will collapse.

  • Eddie Lutz

    James … who majored in English.

  • abinico

    I’ve never seen a capitalist in a soup kitchen line, get it? Nah, of course not, that’s why YOU are in the soup kitchen line.

  • BlueMeanie

    It will go downhill until we restructure it to make the wealthy pay.

  • Boo-urns

    All these young’uns need to do is believe in Jesus Christ and all will be magically better, right?

    • Gay Veteran

      LOL

    • GiantM

      And all you have to do is live as the world does, and all will remain the same.

      -You have no faith.
      -You have no idea what happens to you after death, and probably don’t even care.
      -You probably have no clear grasp of the glorious creation around you and GOD who created it all, yet the marvelous complexity of the human eye was supposedly part of this so-called big bang…..lol.
      – And finally, if you do decide the way of the world and reject “The One” who died for you on the cross, eternity in misery will be your fate.

      Oh and by the way, Jesus is not a magician but the man who died for your sins.

      Consider Jesus and live!

      • Kent Harris

        The Bible speaks of our Creator and His love for us. The people from the Bible had problems and many of them suffered a great deal but what brought them through the eye of the hurricane was God. I was in the Navy and our submarine flooded and it is ONLY because of God interveneing that I and those who served did not drown that day. It is a blessing each day that we are alive.

        • GiantM

          Amen to that brother. God is Good!

        • Gay Veteran

          gee, would have been better if god didn’t let the sub flood in the first place

          • GSOB

            we get, we get it, we got it Gay Vet..
            no chick

            no god

          • DownWithLibs

            Out of the mouth of an arrogant fool. I really hope and pray that you figure out what is REALLY going on here before it is too late. I will be awaiting your snarky reply!

          • Gay Veteran

            your ad hominem rant speaks for itself

    • GSOB

      Just the opposite

      • GoldenEagles

        GSOB, the meaning of your reply is not clear. What is your point here?

        • GSOB

          GoldenEagles…. I was
          replying to this question from

          Boo-urns..
          is believe in Jesus Christ and all will be magically better, right?”

      • GoldenEagles

        Boo-Urns Says: “All these young’uns need to do is believe in Jesus Christ and all will be magically better, right?”

        And GSOB replies: “Just the Opposite”

        Applying the principe of the “opposite” to Boo-Urns statement, my interpretation of your meaning is that “All these young’uns need to do is believe in Jesus Christ and all will be worse than it is right now.”

        So, your other posts don’t indicate an anti-christ attitude, so your statement here is confusing.

        If you have an important point to make you should clarify what that point is.

    • Tobias Smith

      no, the young men should suck off other men immediately, gay is the way

      • Gay Veteran

        hmmmm, sounds like what you want

  • Bobby

    And you know what, If they don’t stop listening to their communist leftist, social sciences, philosophy, sociology professors, they will continue to suffer, since most of those geniuses, will tell students that OPEN IMMIGRATION AND OPEN BORDERS IS “JUST A FINE THING” AND is the “Right thing to do”, as foreigners from every nation on earth, take away the jobs that could be waiting for them!!! Tell your open borders, internationalist, college professors to jump in a lake. WISE UP!!

    • Peace Angel

      America has already signed a UN agreement to open all the borders from Alaska to South America to form the North American Union. The NAU can be seen online. America is OVER>

      • bOBBY

        It does not have to be over. Treaties have been abrogated in the past. But it can’t be done by a cowardly subservient public., which is what Americans have become. PEACE.

        • Peace Angel

          I have spent four decades as a DC insider and the laws they have passed and are passing daily are for the sole purpose of creating the NWO starting in the US. I have worked tirelessly trying to educate the US people as to what was coming. NOW it is here and NOTHING short of the whole nation waking up to what is going on and that their futures lie in concentration camps in the very near future and an armed run on the White House and soon will change this hundred year course the NWO families have put the world on. THE same families who run the UN and run the world’s financial system and who built the 800 fema concentration camps and hire the internment guards through the ARMY will not be stopped. We are talking about way more than a couple of treaties. AGENDA 21, HAARP, NAFTA, PAC NAFTA, REX 84 and all the NDAA acts especially the one made law by executive order by Obama NDAA act of 2011 which lists 400 acts that make you and me and every other American a domestic terrorist who is not allowed to make a phone call, see an attorney, have a trial or ever get out of the camps. THESE acts include everyday things like collecting rain water in a barrel, stockpiling anything for more than 7 days, growing fruits and veges to sell on the side of the road IF you do not use GMO’s and holding prayer meetings in your home. THERE is an act on this list that all of us are committing that makes us domestic terrorists. THIS bill labels all our war vets back to Nam as “enemies of the state” and “psychotics” and “domestic terrorists” and daily 21 of them are killing themselves and many are experiencing paramilitary experiences nationwide any time they come into contact with LEO. America is an ostrich nation and will not see the light until they are all locked up for good.

  • Victor – www.endoftheworld.net

    Shalom, If The Rapture Happens Pre-Trib — There will be jobs the world-over maybe — maybe God’s Kindness will still be drawing people to Him from the event :) (The world will then have to contend with a deep mystery as well) >

    • Michael-www.BibleProvenTrue.co

      Proof the Rapture is next found at ThereisProof d o c m Even the EXACT date Israel was re-born is easily calculated from the Bible! See video of Pharaoh’s junkyard at the bottom of the Red Sea and hundreds of fantastic proofs at above site.

      • DownWithLibs

        Yeah, I would love to get that DVD on the Red Sea…chariot wheel hubs, petrified horse hooves…yes, we are discovering this stuff now for a reason!

    • Gay Veteran

      can I have your car and house post Rapture?

  • Brandigo

    Well you can forget truth from the likes of ABC, CBS, NBC, et al. They’re so far up Obama’s behind they can no longer see daylight.

  • JoeD

    No offense, guy, but you can’t afford that car payment. That’s why you’re still living at home. At $10.60/hr assuming you work 40 hours a week you’re spending almost 25% of your pretax income on car payments. What’s worse is you bought a Chevy, which is just about the worst car you could buy as far as value retention is concerned. Add in the insurance, gas, maintenance, and other expenses and you’re dangerously close to working so you can drive back and forth to work. Great if you’re some seventeen year old kid who needs the car to have a better shot at getting lucky but you’re nearly 30.

    If you were my kid you’d be out on your duff because you could easily afford to educate yourself for the amount of money you’re flushing down the toilet on your car. It’s time for you to get your act together.

  • piccadillybabe

    It’s never smart to attend college right after high school anyway. Most do not know what they want to do with themselves for the rest of their lives. Why waste all that money and time on an education and then find out, it is not what you want anyway. Leave your home towns and the state you grew up in and travel around a bit, meet new people, explore the country and keep an open mind. It’s the journey, not the destination and the best education there is.

    • DiscouragedOne

      How do you propose they afford to travel?

  • Simon Bailey

    Brilliant article, massive eye opener. The old always have the benefit, instead of getting the wage rises to go along with inflation, they have instead been promised lucrative pension schemes, which the government cannot pay without sacrificing the youth. They have also been silly with their money take out ridiculous loans that causes the employment life to increase. It would interesting to see how much the average age of working person has increased. The older generation has so many debts and taxation is so high that the entry level jobs are simply not there anymore as the older generation are occupying the higher level jobs so none can move up. Its a vicious cycle and one that can only be solved by raising wages or reducing taxation and i cant see either happening

  • RarefiedSnotress

    I wish Michael wouldn’t write so many obviously sexist trashy articles.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joseph.kuan.98 Joe

    I won’t encourage/push my son to the academic path (even though I got a PhD) if he is just average. In fact, I will encourage him to the get apprenticeship in handy skills at the same time. I personally think the academic path is way over emphasised, everywhere in the world. When every country only cares to push the service sector, you know there is an imbalance.

  • j h

    September 27th I was laid off from my full time job again. Twice in the last 5 years. I’m 47 years old. I thought as you get older life should be getting better but it’s not.

    • Lisa

      Not always. Yet I encourage you to persist and be open to new things and opportunities. It seems the golden years for many are not going to be about playing golf all day and visiting family.

      It seems only a small percentage of the population enjoy comfort and prosperity as they get older.

  • GSOB

    “That some receive the gift of faith from God and others do not receive it proceeds from God’s eternal decree, ‘For known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world’ (Acts 15:18). ‘Who worketh all things after the counsel of his will’ (Eph. 1:11).

    According to which decree He graciously softens the hearts of the elect, however obstinate, and inclines them to believe, while He leaves the non-elect in His just judgment to their own wickedness and obduracy.

    And herein is especially displayed the profound, the merciful, and at the same time the righteous discrimination between men equally involved in ruin;
    or
    that decree of election and reprobation, revealed in the Word of God,
    which,
    though men of perverse, impure, and unstable minds wrest to their own destruction,
    yet to holy and pious souls affords unspeakable consolation.”

    • Loren James

      No the gift of God is eternal life (God’s grace) Eph. 2:8 (Gr. word structure), God desires all people to come to repentance, people have a free will and a choice, “for whoever calls upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved”. That kind of fatalistic extreme calvanism does not square with scripture and “the whole council of God”.

      • GSOB

        I understand the difficulty of being in your position. The sanctification process continues.

        Keep going and work out your salvation, for it is God who does the work in you. It’s all His doing from beginning to end.

        • Kai

          Yes GSOB knows all about faith and salvation. How sad that some limit themselves to a book written by men thousands of years after Christ died to know who or what God is…

          As an English major I can appreciate the allegorical stories contained in the bible and understand they were never intended to be true stories to be retold as if factual.

          Of course when you have the uneducated interpreting the Bible and preaching it as gospel there are bound to be mistakes made.

          Only when we die will we actually know the truth.

          • GSOB

            Oh Yeah Kai?

            Well….
            (like I tell my 7 year old son)
            you are just a big, silly
            rabbit!

          • GoldenEagles

            My understanding is that the accounts of the life and mission of Jesus Christ, recorded in the Gospels, were recorded about 60 years after the death and resurrection events. In some cases recorded by eye witnesses, for example, the Gospel of John.

            With that said, there is common sense to your general thesis, that these writings could not possibly tell the whole story.

            So many deep truths were expressed through parables, all of which are open to interpretation. Surely there is much more to be said and known about everything to which the Master alluded.

            However, this idea, that ONLY when we die we will actually know the truth, is a false statement, when preceded by the word ONLY.

            Surely, when we die, we will see things that we do not see at the moment, and pertaining to those things, we will know the truth pertaining to them.

            But the truth that will set us free, is the truth that must be known NOW, and not after death.

            The most important of Christ’s teachings had to do with what needs to be known NOW.

            This after death you will know doctrine, never came out of the mouth of Christ himself.

  • Garromond

    I love the story about J. Roy at the beginning of the article. He’s stuck managing a coffee shop after completing his university requirements for a degree in ” English “. ( Nothing like strategic planning. )

    I fail to see why he cannot get a fantastic job as an IT guy at General motors or as a super programmer at IBM. They both require English.

    Maybe there is sustenance to be made writing pamphlets. Welcome to the 21st century.

    • condaggitt

      I know I know…Maybe our Colored presidente will declare a War on Ebonics and we will need tens of thousands of English teachers to meet the needs of the welfare and criminal crowds.

      Since speaking English will be a requirement to get and keep your EBT card or to apply for parole.

      • Gay Veteran

        didn’t George W. Bush start a war on English?

  • Garromond

    I hate to tell ya this, but in a global economy the competition is among wages. In the old days when we were manufacturing we needed skills. That’s when I was making $35 an hour with benefits.

    Unions today can’t cut it because they bid too high. The only $15 dollar an hour wage today is Welfare of any description and liberals are happy to fund the new ” middle class “.)

    • Gay Veteran

      repeal “free trade” laws which benefit the multi-national corporations

      • El Pollo de Oro

        “It’s not free trade, it’s slave trade.” —Gerald Celente

    • fred flinstone

      except for the rare ones like me making almost 16 an hr on reg 40 hr week job with added production bonus paid quarterly.and with major medical+ @54 bucks bi-weekly for 8 yrs now.all on a hs degree yet.

  • Joe R

    The most American thing a young American can do today is leave the United States and start a new life in another country.

    • condaggitt

      Fantastic Idea if you owe $100-200,000 in student debt they cant collect from you when you’re overseas.

  • RoyWatson

    “But when their educations where over…” – and they’d learnt the difference between “where” and “were” – …

    “53 percent of all Americans with a bachelor’s degree under the age of 25 were either unemployed or underemployed” – well, then, I’m lucky my bachelor’s degree is 26 years old.

    • DiscouragedOne

      There is no such word as “learnt”.

  • Kent Harris

    My family founded this country. I am involved with the Tea Party and I am very involved with the church. There are things we can do locally such as attend townhall meetings and writing your representatives and letting them know how you feel. Look Elijah, a great Old Testament prophet, ran away when he heard that Jezebel was going to kill him. Even though God had performed many amazing miracles he gave up but God didn’t. As we approach what maybe the Last Days God has called Christians to trust Him. It seems difficult, but our power comes from the Holy Spirit that resides in every Christian.

    • DownWithLibs

      Plus, we need to remember that this isn’t about us. It’s much bigger than us. And we Christians have a lot of work to do before God puts a “period on the end of this sentance”.

  • Truthisreal

    This truly is “The beginning of the end” of this system! Satans system!
    Read your bible people! Soon there will be a new government that will
    rule the whole earth forever! God’s Kingdom! As you can see it is futile
    to put any hope or faith in this system that is dying! It will not get
    better! Mankinds only hope is Gods Kingdom ruled by Christ the king! Go
    to jw dot org to learn the truth!

    • lynn

      You do realize that all over the world there are people in poverty and living in horrible conditions. Just because it is America’s turn has nothing to do with God or the bible.

      The reason we are in this mess is because complacent people keep voting the same liars into office.

      • Jimbo

        Totally correct. Britain,The USA and many other western countries have enjoyed living standards way beyond those of third world countries and yet much of that wealth has been generated by the third world. Chinese workers toil for 12 hours a day 13 days a fortnight for subsistence pay so that we can have cheap sneakers and flat screen TV’s. Their government gets dollars and the west accumulates debt.

        So the big question is can this continue forever or will there be a reversal?

        Anyone that really believes that the current situation can continue forever is deluded.

        The logical answer is that there will be a reversal and the rate of acceleration of Western debt suggests that the reversal is imminent.

        • Chris

          Have you seen the price of the sneakers/trainers made by the Chinese? Hardly cheap when they get to be sold over here in the West. No you are mistaken, the Chinese are working 12 hour days so that the branded sneaker business owner can make a massive markup selling cheaply produced sneakers to westerners at rip off prices.

          • Sara

            What is your point about the price of sneakers? The markup in the US is capitalism at it’s finest. If it was not for slave labor overseas and greed I wonder what the true price of goods and services would be.

            There will always be haves and havenots. The problem the haves have is when they have nothing and are left with not having any money to buy the luxury items they are used to.

            The Chinese government allows their people to be taken advantage of by US Corporations. Same in other third world countries.

            The fact is in America most have no concept of what goes on in the rest of the world and believe that when bad things happen here it is because God is somehow punishing us. As if God would endorse the prosperity of one country created because of lying, scheming and taking advantage of others. The reality of how things are is vastly different than what most people realize.

            However, many Americans would rather bury their heads in the sand and parrot trite statements about how this country was founded on Christian principles, etc.

            The truth is this country was founded by corruption, theft, bloodshed, etc. Nothing Christian about any of that.

            There are good people in the world but most allow the government to do the dirty work while they reap the fruits of the suffering of others. As long as we don’t see it or hear about it. Somehow that makes it OK.

          • Jimbo

            What people don’t get is that a collapse in living standards in the west will most likely take them to the lifestyle of the average Chinese worker. I don’t subscribe to the doomsday scenario that many envisage. The days of the 38 hour week factory worker providing comfortably for a wife and four kids are gone and will never return. That lifestyle was paid for first by industrial advantage and later with government debt.

          • Jimbo

            I was using sneakers as an example but I could have just as easily used any other item made in China. Yes there is a bigger rake off for the brand owner on some brands but there is also a lot of discount for non branded items. The fact remains that the US lives beyond its means and does so by exporting dollars.

      • ConcernedAmerican

        It doesn’t matter who one votes for. All of the politicians have the same boss. Politicians are chosen by those in power, not by those that cast votes.

  • cherylmeril

    It means more young females will be whoring themselves for a living.

    • Leebo

      No they wont lol, no ones gonna pay

  • GSOB

    Moving pictures

  • Dee

    Neither the younger generation nor any generation is paying for the trillions of dollars of National Debt. We are not even paying for the current annual Government budget, not at the national Level and not at the State level with very few exceptions, and in many cases not at the county or city level. The debts keep piling up.. you can take that one off your list until, if ever, somebody actually balances a budget and then starts paying down the debt.

    • Leebo

      hahahhaahahahahahahahaahhahahahaha HOLY MOLY hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahhahahha ARE YOU SMOKING SOMETHING hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahhh good luck with that mentality

  • Daystrom2012

    Woe,woe,woe to the inhabitants of the earth.
    Revelation 8:13

    • GoldenEagles

      The term “woe” wherever you see it in the Bible, refers to the return of karma. For all that men send forth, it is the law, that it must return to them.

      All thoughts, feelings, and actions, that revere truth, and thus champion the reality of God, and his purposes, are always positive and constructive, and will produce a positive return.

      On the other hand, all thoughts, feelings, and actions, that revere error, and thus champion the reality of Satan, or the Devil, and his purposes, are always negative and destructive, and will produce a negative return.

      We know, that out of God’s Infinite Love for us, he desires for us every good and perfect thing, and in great abundance. And he would have this reality of his abundance surround us, and embrace us, every moment of our lives.

      But you see, it is this law of karma, that is what governors our reality. If we have sent forth evil and destructive forces from our hearts, and our mouths, that is the quality of the force that will come back to us and surround us, and which will embrace us, as noted. It is only when positive and constructive things come forth from our hearts, and our mouths, that our lives are surrounded with the great abundance that is the Will of God for each one of us.

      And so, we see, that getting one’s heart right with God, is the center of everything. The Reality of God lives there. The Reality of God, as Love first, would shine forth from there, and in great abundance, yes, even from our own hearts.

      The key to reaping good karma, is to get one’s heart right with God, which is to say, to align one’s priority system with the priority system of God. And thus, our hearts become active players in the furtherance of God’s purposes in the earth, and this is on a wave of great love, and not hate.

      All children are intended to participate in the abundance of God. But because of this law of karma, you can see, that this participation is only possible, when we align our hearts with God’s Purposes.

      America has largely abandoned this foundation of first principle. Every economic downturn represents a wave of this returning negative karma, which destroys hopes and dreams. Yes, you can point to all the symptomatic factors, but addressing those, will never solve the problem. You must go to the root of the problem. The root of the problem is found in this law of karma, this law of energy return.

      All negative conditions that impact us, are always the result of our irreverence before God, and the resulting disobedience to his principles, laws, and purposes. Well, this is true the world around.

      How does America get itself right with God? That is the essential question. No other questions are relevant.

      It’s like a man in the desert is dying of thirst. The only thing that will assuage his thirst is a cup of cold water. Our range of options are that narrow.

      The only sure step in the direction of getting our hearts right with God, as a nation, is to overturn the Supreme Court opinion that banned prayer in the public schools in 1962, and this can only be done through a constitutional amendment, setting the state legislatures free to provide for prayer in the public schools of their respective states as the will of the people will allow.

      America cannot survive as a free nation without the divine assistance in our national affairs that the practice of school prayer will invoke. Every American should think long and hard upon this absolute truth.

      • Gay Veteran

        The Golden Rule predates the Bible.

        “…America cannot survive as a free nation without the divine assistance in our national affairs that the practice of school prayer will invoke….”

        ROFLOL, there will be prayer in school as long as there are algebra tests.
        You just want to use the power of the State to impose YOUR brand of religion on everyone else. And that is UN-American

        • GoldenEagles

          No, my interest is in saving America. When you understand that it was Divine Providence that provided for America’s birth, and that it was Divine Providence that provided for her wealth and unity unto a global superpower, you will understand the root of our problem. We have lost the sponsorship of Divine Providence. The solution is the restoration of our access to Divine Providence. The first step in that direction is the restoration of school prayer.

          In all the years that school prayer was a reality in America, Angels of God answered the prayers of the school children on a national basis, pouring out vast treasures of assistance in every aspect of American life.

          We were at the top of our game in 1960.

          When the U.S. Supreme Court outlawed prayer in the public schools in 1962, the prayers stopped, the intercession of the Angelic Host gradually came to an end. And all manner of problems were allowed to get out of control. And we are facing the bitter fruit of this loss of Divine Providence today.

          Our only hope is to move the nation back in the direction of a national consensus as to our need for the restoration of Divine Providence.

          The first step in that direction is the restoration of School prayer. For starters, the massive political effort required to do this will aligned the people’s attention back in the right direction.

          • Gay Veteran

            ROFLOL. You’re like a caveman sitting around the fire listening to the shamen explaining how thunder and lightning is because of god.

            You think American is “exceptional” and credit god. You watch the American Empire decline and say that only if we turn back to god will be prosper (I’m sure many a Roman felt the same way), only if we use the power of the State to impose YOUR particular brand of religion on kids will be great again.

            In other words, pathetically delusional.

          • GoldenEagles

            Well, thunder and lightning are of God. That is pretty obvious to most people.

            Beyond that, I see that you understand my point of view.

            Yes, as individuals, and as nations, all our blessings come from God our Father and Mother. When we see these blessings dry up around us, when we see the landscape of our lives becoming more and more of a desert wasteland, we must ask why? Our question in this regard must probe deep, beyond all surface symptoms, to the bedrock. As the answer is found in the bedrock regions.

            God our Father and Mother will pour out abundance to individuals, and nations, who freely choose to live their lives in appreciation of, in respect for, and in service to, God’s Purposes. As God’s Purpose, born out of universal and infinite love, is to bring the greatest abundance of treasure and happiness to as many of their children as possible.

            When our blessings disappear, both as individuals and as nations, we must understand that we have been drawn off our foundation of allegiance to God’s Purposes. And that the disappearance of these blessings is a signal to us, that we need to evaluate our present position and relationship to the foundation. God will not support with lavish abundance, any lifestyle, individual or national, that works against his purposes. Why? It is because all things which work against His Purposes, represent a path that destroys the tangible manifestation of His Abundance in the lives of His People. And here I am speaking of the abundance of the inner kingdom of the Heart.

            It’s like if you have wandered in the desert for many lifetimes, and you have finally found an oasis, you will stop there, and make that your home, because there is water, and trees growing, and from these trees grow the fruit that will keep you alive.

            Now, if you wake up one day, and find yourself thirsty, and famished, and you open your eyes, you will see that you have wandered far afield from the oasis. The solution to that problem, is to retrace your steps back to the oasis.

            This is not delusional. This is reasonable. This is logical. This is eminently practical.

            When it comes to school prayer, it would be, as it was before. The practice is founded on the people’s agreement that we need the abundance of God, and we must come together and pray for it. There is no particular brand of religion set above another in this practice of consensus and toleration. And of course, it is essential that the Children are taught this basic truth, because this is the foundation of a nation’s survival. It represents the central spine of citizenship, that which understands from whence all blessings flow.

          • Gay Veteran

            no, thunder and lightning are of nature

            as the old saying goes: god helps those who help themselves

            Sounds like you believe in prosperity theology. Are you some fat cat preacher of a mega-church? I’m sure you’re praying all right, to Mammon

            “… There is no particular brand of religion set above another in this practice of consensus and toleration.”
            Ohhhhhh, so you don’t mind if a Muslim publicly prays in school? A Hindu? A Wiccan?

          • GoldenEagles

            Nature is of God, therefore thunder and lightning are of God. And wondrous and and dramatic creations are they.

            God helps those who ask for help, and who then act on the guidance given.

            God is all about prosperity. Look at the universe. Our galaxy has nearly 500 billion stars all by itself. That is truly an abundance. God our Father would have us share his abundance, but the abundance cannot be shared unless there is an assurance that it will be used to further the Purposes of God.

            And so, I pray to the God who created me, who created you, along with the billions of galaxies that populate this universe. And I try to understand his purposes as best I can.

            The main morning prayer activity in each classroom of a particular school will have a structure that is product of local consensus. If there are some who do not agree with the consensus, they can opt out, and do the morning prayer ritual in the way that best suits their belief structure.

          • GoldenEagles

            Well, thunder and lightning are of God. That is pretty obvious to most people.

            Beyond that, I see that you understand my point of view.

            Yes, as individuals, and as nations, all our blessings come from God our Father and Mother. When we see these blessings dry up around us, when we see the landscape of our lives becoming more and more of a desert wasteland, we must ask why? Our question in this regard must probe deep, beyond all surface symptoms, to the bedrock. As the answer is found in the bedrock regions.

            God our Father and Mother will pour out abundance to individuals, and nations, who freely choose to live their lives in appreciation of, in respect for, and in service to, God’s Purposes. As God’s Purpose, born out of universal and infinite love, is to bring the greatest abundance of treasure and happiness to as many of their children as possible.

            When our blessings disappear, both as individuals and as nations, we must understand that we have been drawn off our foundation of allegiance to God’s Purposes. And that the disappearance of these blessings is a signal to us, that we need to evaluate our present position and relationship to the foundation. God will not support with lavish abundance, any lifestyle, individual or national, that works against his purposes. Why? It is because all things which work against His Purposes, represent a path that destroys the tangible manifestation of His Abundance in the lives of His People. And here I am speaking of the abundance of the inner kingdom of the Heart.

            It’s like if you have wandered in the desert for many lifetimes, and you have finally found an oasis, you will stop there, and make that your home, because there is water, and trees growing, and from these trees grow the fruit that will keep you alive.

            Now, if you wake up one day, and find yourself thirsty, and famished, and you open your eyes, you will see that you have wandered far afield from the oasis. The solution to that problem, is to retrace your steps back to the oasis.

            This is not delusional. This is reasonable. This is logical. This is eminently practical.

            When it comes to school prayer, it would be, as it was before. The practice is founded on the people’s agreement that we need the abundance of God, and we must come together and pray for it. There is no particular brand of religion set above another in this practice of consensus and toleration. And of course, it is essential that the Children are taught this basic truth, because this is the foundation of a nation’s survival. It represents the central spine of citizenship, that which understands from whence all blessings flow.

  • Dee

    I’ve been reading the comments, I even tried to find one in which to express my thoughts as a response, but decide just to make a fresh post.
    Folks keep talking about jobs and labor and wages and salaries , and I’m not knocking that.. but that isn’t working for a lot of people.. Folks that are breaking out today are writing books , handcrafting stuff, painting a picture, photography, enterprise, small business, blogs.. I got a friend who is back ordered and making pretty fair money with hand made fishing lures of all things .. just saying.. if you got a talent or some obscure, or even not so obscure expertise.. were I you, I would be finding a way to monetize it, consulting maybe.. or like the piano teacher of old, share your knowledge for a fee .. you could make a living as a consulting gardener if you are good enough.. Got buddies that get pretty fair money and free boats covered with sponsor stickers for sport fishing… not saying take up bass fishing.. but I am saying if you have a talent.. do something with it .. the world is not about cubicles .. I am not saying quit a job or turn down a job or stop looking for a job.. but dang it.. if you have a talent , monetize it, as second job or as a “get you thru until” job. I bet somebody could get paid for showing folks how to win at Halo 3 if they were good enough.

    • GSOB

      I’ll drum for food.

  • Nic

    Get out of the USA. USA is only 4% of the world population. Look for a job in Europe or Asia…
    Get experience, learn foreign languages, be smart and become someone.

    Nic from asia

    • GoldenEagles

      Very foolish advice.

  • JoeD

    Sorry, guy, it doesn’t work that way. You can’t come on here spilling your guts about how bad it is out there and then not expect people to call you out on your own questionable decisions. I know many people who make much much more money than you who drive cars that are significantly older than two years, and many other people who would never consider signing a car note with a $429 monthly payment. What you have is a luxury you cannot afford. And don’t give me the line about cheap car insurance, either. I lived in Chicago for close to 15 years, there is no such thing. You may think you’re getting a deal now by skimping but it will catch up with you sooner or later. I guarantee it.

    I don’t have any kids, in fact I’m close to the same age as you, but the reason I said you’d be out flat on your rear if you were my son is because you’re not showing any initiative or making very good decisions. Undergraduate courses at the local regional campus of the public university in my state are about $200/credit hour. Gen ed courses at the community college can be had for significantly less. The amount of money you’re dropping on car payments per year to finance a depreciable asset that is dropping in value like a rock could almost fund full-time tuition, which would be a significant investment in yourself. You’re showing your willful ignorance claiming that higher education isn’t worth it because I’ve got news from you: no one can ever take that education away from you whereas your shiny “new” car will likely be a rusted hulk sitting in a junk yard in 20 years. Where will you be then?

    I’ll grant you that the economy is lousy and that a lot of people are struggling, but you sir a walking excuse machine. Get a second job. Find a roommate. Enroll in school. Get a cheaper car. There are many things you could do to improve your situation and work toward moving out of mom’s basement, but apparently you’d rather blame all your problems on everyone besides yourself.

    • blackciti_fo5

      Hey, guy, you can assume all you want too. You not walking in my shoes. You seem to sit here and wonder “how did this guy buy a car while “only” making $10.60 an hour?” A real man don’t worry about what another man is doing. He focuses on his own life. You NOT a real man. Period. It’s not my job to sit here and babysit you and tell you how to be a man. I ain’t your pops. You have to figure that part out yourself. Good day sir.

      • JoeD

        No, I know how you bought the car. You’re still mooching off your parents for support and blaming your problems on expensive rent this and welfare deadbeats that.

        Funny you go around telling other people who have their act together they aren’t “real men” when you’re the 29 year old loser working a dead end job living with mommy and daddy. Good luck with that, particularly if you ever hope to find a decent woman that’s willing to touch you.

        • blackciti_fo5

          Lol this isn’t nothing new. I hear the same bullcrap all over the internet from losers like yourself. I knew you were going to say that crap about me not being a man because I live with mommy and daddy lol. That was the answer I was expecting from somebody that sits at home replying to people’s comments that live lives that’s not up to your standard. You’re a loser sir and you ain’t no man. Deal with it. People make mistakes. I know you wouldn’t dare say this to my face. This is the internet so its easier to talk about people here. If you ever make it back to Chicago and decide you wanna meet give me your facebook so I can inbox you where we can meet. If not then giving me your opinion means nothing. I find this funny lol that you know how I do things YET we never met. Hopefully we will though.

        • blackciti_fo5

          Lol this isn’t nothing new. I hear the same bullcrap all over the internet from losers like yourself. I knew you were going to say that crap about me not being a man because I live with mommy and daddy lol. That was the answer I was expecting from somebody that sits at home replying to people’s comments that live lives that’s not up to your standard. You’re a loser sir and you ain’t no man. Deal with it. People make mistakes. I know you wouldn’t dare say this to my face. This is the internet so its easier to talk about people here. If you ever make it back to Chicago and decide you wanna meet give me your facebook so I can inbox you where we can meet. If not then giving me your opinion means nothing. I find this funny lol that you know how I do things YET we never met. Hopefully we will though.

  • Joe Whitman

    America is turning brown and it is not ever coming back.

    Look around you: All brown countries are poor unless white people find oil under their feet and pay them a fortune for it.

    • GoldenEagles

      Well, that is a ridiculous comment Joe Whitman.

      All of the people of the earth are God’s Children. No matter the skin color, God loves every Child with a love that is absolutely infinite. Of course, He hopes that these fallen children, each one, would start paying attention to that fact once again. They all used to know about that Love, but fell away from the domain of Reality in which that love is self-evident, yes THE FALL.

      You, Joe Whitman, are not paying attention to that fact.

      It is the power of hatred that compels people to look away from the reality of God’s Love. All of us must fight against the temptations to be drawn into the domain of hate. The more integrated into the domain of hatred a person is, the more their attention is turned away from the reality of God’s Love, even from the Reality of God Himself.

      Each skin color is a gift of God’s Infinite Love. White is no better than black, or brown, or yellow, or red, or whatever. After all Adolf Hitler was white, and he was probably the most evil person that we have ever seen on the face of this earth.

      To be anti-racist is to be anti-hate. To be anti-racist, is to be pro-love. To be anti-racist, is to be Pro-God, for God is Love.

      I would say to you, that you need to spend some time every day, from this point forward, studying the principle of God’s Love, meditating on the Reality of God’s Love, and of course you will need to ask the Lord Christ to assist you in this study project, and to guide your meditations, bearing in your mind at all times, his commandments, that all go in the direction of love, and never in the direction of hate.

      If you do this, your perspective will clear, and you will be a happier person for the effort.

  • Rostis

    I’d like to add that here in my Russia the situation with the best professionals (both young and aged) is basically the same: they see no decent future with our rotten gangster regime and, forgetting their families’ traditional Russian patriotism, go East, to the more business-friendly Asian countries, like Korea, China, Thailand or Malaysia. The more numerous but the less enterprising part of our escapists (again, both young and aged), naturally, prefer a free-ride safety of the taxpayers-blessed welfare states of EU, USA and Australia. Rostislav, Saint-Petersburg, Russia

  • Tosheba

    31. They all voted for Obama and can’t quite figure out why things are so screwed up in America right now.

  • El Pollo de Oro

    The Typical American Worker: How Gen-Y and Gen-Z Will Cope With Life In a Corrupt Banana Republic
    By El Pollo de Oro

    If you serve Nutraloaf to people in orange jumpsuits, you might be a typical American
    worker.

    If you decided that being a narcotraficante, carjacker or professional kidnapper is preferable to working in a sweatshop, you might be a typical American worker.

    If you just finished beheading members of a rival drug cartel, you might be a typical
    American worker.

    If you spend your time listening to narcocorridos and are employed by the Sinaloa Cartel, La Familia Michoacana, or Los Zeta, you might be a typical American worker.

    If you refer to El Chapo Guzman as “jefe” or “patrón,” you might be a typical American
    worker.

    If you work as a “guardaespalda” (bodyguard) for a businessman who has paid ransom for at three
    of his relatives who were kidnapped in recent months, you might be a typical American
    worker.

    If you think that “La Reina del Sur” is a role model for your daughter, you might be a typical American worker.

    If you share your profits with a crooked cop every time you mug someone, you might be a typical American worker.

    If you often have people bound and
    gagged in the trunk of your car (the one you drive on dirt or gravel roads), you might be a typical American worker.

    If collecting a ransom means dinner for the wife and kids, you might be a typical American worker.

    If you live in a developed country that became a Third World hellhole, you might be a typical American worker.

    If you ignored Ross Perot, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Gerald Celente, Justin Raimondo and Paul Craig
    Roberts and had to find out the hard way that they were right about the evils of globalism, you might be a typical American worker.

  • ConcernedAmerican

    I recently met someone that had a PhD and worked making pizzas just to pay the student loans. This person also had to live with their parents to eat and have a roof over their head.

    If Americans were not required to take classes that have nothing to do with their majors, perhaps school wouldn’t be so expensive.

  • Tobias Smith

    31. your name is gary2

  • DiscouragedOne

    My son graduated in May with a BS (thankfully he has no student loans to pay), he is still looking for a job, and we are basically supporting him.

  • DiscouragedOne

    My son got his B.S. in May and still can’t find a job.

    • yahell

      exactly cuz its a BS Bull S—- degree

  • yahell

    LOL

  • A D

    Enjoy the SOCIALISM of ‘Barry Sorento’ aka Oboma where everyone shares misery.

  • A D

    Oboma (Barry Sorento) sounded to American so he changed it to a Muzlim name. They have NO room to complain they voted for him, cry to the socialist in office…. Or see if they can get foodstamps/hud/welfare with the rest of the losers.

  • crazyidiot

    You know I could say a lot about this issue. I mean I am not saying I have thought this all through completely, but it does seem that all these problems are basically because “WE WORSHIP MONEY AS GOD.” I mean really just get rid of money altogether. How many problems would that solve? All of them, unless it started the end.

    • Leon

      you are an idiot. Money is the representation of labor. Unless you are talking about the fiat paper then you got no idea what you are talking about.

      The reason “money” was made was because not everybody wanted to do farming and it allowed people to exchange goods and services.

      • ian

        Actually crazyidiot is not an idiot. The monetary system needs to be replaced.

        • Leon

          Ian. If you got no idea what you are talking about please don’t make a fool out of yourself.

          Read what he wrote.

          WE WORSHIP MONEY AS GOD.” I mean really just get rid of money altogether.

          Now that being said, you probably don’t know what “money” is. I don’t disagree that the monetary system needs to be replaced as it has been in history but he’s talking about removing money all together which is how we exchange goods and service I’m not talking about the monetary system.

          • Leon

            BTW he thinks money is the problem of the world. It’s not.

            The problem of the world is people that don’t want to work but want to live an amazing life. Laziness is the problem of the world.

            Borrowing hard work from other people to live in the now instead of the future.

            Money has nothing to do with it. It’s just those that don’t want to work that causes the money to be worth less.

          • Jimbo

            You are scathing in your response to a concept that you don’t understand. That would make you an idiot.

          • Leon

            lol you know why 80% of the people are employees then a few % are business owners then 1% is rich?

            If you don’t understand it then you’re just merely an employee. You have no idea about money, exchange, and other stuff that are real in this world.

          • Gay Veteran

            the system is rigged for the benefits of the BIGS: Wal-Mart, Home Depot, etc.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jack.harper.520562 Jack Harper

    You watch and see if Obama doesn’t throw in the towel and drop the keys to America on the desk of the U.N.’s secretary General.
    I seen that coming when Obama was seen dropping the gavel at the UN general assembly a couple of years ago.

  • Young American Expat

    Thanks! I speak English, Spanish, Arabic, Russian, Korean and Latin (useless outside the science and religious fields but still a language all the same). And you are correct in your observation of engineering and teaching being very successful right now, as I noticed the same thing. That is why I like Asia right now. Until you have seen just how low of a base (schooling, infrastructure, etc) most of Asia is rising from, you begin to realize this is where the economic action of the future is (exception being Africa, provided that they are willing to overcome their serious problems of tribalism). As schooling levels rise, all sectors of the economy will go on overdrive and force GDP upwards and the two biggest inflows of capital and focus will be teaching and engineering; teaching to get everyone up to speed, engineering to build and grow each country’s infrastructure and business needs/demands. So as much I didn’t want to, I made the switch. So over time I hope to acquire more skills and whatnot to eventually head back to my chosen field, though admittedly I am open to more possibilities than I was before. This is why I like Asia more than America right now: The elites take their share(corruption, sandals, and monopolies, etc) sure just like in the US, but they are all united in their vision of wanting their individual country to rise and be stronger economically and culturally by any and all means possible. The US elites by contrast are focused on their individual portion of the economic pie and are not really focused on the greater picture, thus leaving people like me with no chance to even try to compete let alone be successful. And all I want is the chance. At least over here in Asia I get the chance to do that, thus the move and the wanting to stay long term. Asia has chosen to copy what America did in the past and make it bigger. America on the other hand has decided to abandon that working formula. The why doesn’t really matter, it is the fact that it has already happened and has accelerated.

    -Young American Expat in Asia

    • El Pollo de Oro

      Young American Expat: you were smart to learn several foreign languages (hablo español, italiano y francés, aunque hablo francés con imperfecciónes). I’ve found that people who speak more than one language tend to have a broader perspective. As far as the elites in paises asiaticos, that sort of ties into something Alex Jones and Chris Hedges were recently saying about the BRA’s elites of 2013 compared to American elites of the past. The robber barons of 50 or 60 years ago saw the need for a middle class, whereas the BRA elites of 2013 will destroy society at all levels. And when the BRA ends up being as violent and unstable as Honduras and rivers of blood are flowing through the streets, you’ll be glad you escaped this rotting Third World hellhole.

  • Joseph E Fasciani

    I’ll be 71 next February and I’ve read the comments below before my writing here. Aside from the troll or two, nearly all were aware, intelligent, and could articulate what the problems are, their origins, and in a few cases, their cure, so to speak, as if there can ever be a cure for predatory crony capitalism and banksters, outside of life in prison.

    At age 19.5 yrs in 1963, I started self-employment in my own landscape maintenance and design/build business in the Oakland-East Bay area. By 1969 I’d become prosperous, earning US$ 6/hr, buying French wine by the case and w/a variety of golden futures ahead of me, just pick and choose. So I did: I immigrated to BC, Canada and never looked back.

    The USSA [not a typo] was too racist, violent, socially warped and far too war-prone for me to want to have a family and raise children in it, so my new wife and I left. It was the single best act of my life; I encourage all others to do the same.

    I was not a draft-dodger; when I appeared for induction my status was changed to 1-Y, due to a non-operable chronic medical condition. Within two years of that point I saw there was nothing I could ever do that would be meaningful to correct the present crisis in the time I had left in my life, so finding a better place to have a family became my first priority. Nothing’s changed in the fifty years since, in fact, it’s gotten much, much worse.

    I’m the first-born in the USSA of immigrant parents. They came as refugees from fascism, and wanted nothing of the old world to encumber them. They Anglo-cised us so much they never spoke Italian at home, so I ended by taking German in HS, as I’d learned Yiddish from my father’s business partners in their plumbing & heating business.

    I share all this not because my ego needs expansion, but to show younger people that we older folks had the same dreams and hopes as you; when we found ourselves in an era whose politico-social strictures were such that the destruction of human development had been made the over-riding matrix in our society, then self-preservation is the first and last refuge of patriots. I love my country, but I fear its government.

    Canada was very good to us: I had three children who are drug-free, positive-contributing citizens who will have healthy children when their time comes, just as they were raised. You need to do the same for yourself first, and then your children. No one else can do it for you; NEVER rely on the gubbmint to help you w/o your paying for it at some point. It may sound odd, but there are no free breakfasts, lunches, or dinners. None.

    The Three Laws of Thermodynamics rule all life on planet Earth, which is composed of closed systems sustained by the sun, and this simple fact alone if understood by HS students before graduation would ensure a better life for them and their society. It’s clear that 98% of all politicians don’t ‘get it,’ so we will all suffer until a majority do, and sensibility enters political and social life.

    Until then, your first duty is to devise a healthy lifestyle for yourself, then your partner and family, and then you are ready to do something for your country. Good luck in all endeavours, and above all, follow your heart!

    • Young American Expat

      Excellent response sir! My sentiments exactly.

      -Young American Expat in Asia

    • GoldenEagles

      Very shortsighted. It is beyond me how people can justify surrender and retreat. You were not born an American to abandon her in time of need. It was a privilege beyond the power of words to express to be born in America. God placed you here to stand and fight. There is nothing admirable about fleeing the battle. That you come back here as America approaches her darkest hour and counsel retreat again, and make it look like a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. And the Lord God will tell you that right to your face when the time comes. You can be sure of it. Aid and comfort to the enemy is what you are providing.

  • therooster

    Young Americans will be the segment of society to eventually see that gold (precious metals, actually) is a form of debt-free currency that purges existing debt (fiat) right out of circulation. It’s gold’s time to shine as a currency thanks to the fact that it has overcome its historical problem of illiquidy, in large part due to the fact that it is now free to float in trade value. Gold purges debt but the monetary application/ implementation, because of the real-time factor, must come from the grass roots, bottom-up. This process must come from the market. It cannot be a top-down process which is a blind spot for most. We tend to default to top-down thinking.

  • colin

    I read today that a Filipino newspaper from the Philippines has analyzed what is happening in our country. Their conclusion is that we have a party that simply refuses to believe that the US is run by a black man.

    We are watching the inevitable self suicide of the world’s economy by a group who are fanatic and have for the better part of a year refused to negotiate. I am speaking here about the House Republicans, who came together under the banner of the Williamsburg Accord to declare a strike against the nation. They made a decision not to work with the President.

    I know that many conservatives will believe what they told on the right wing blogosphere and on the right media. However, there is a small number of your people who are starting to wake up. We in the rational world have our arms open in peace and friendship, and we will take in your brothers and sisters who have come to their senses.

    • sadfasdf sodioi3

      LMAO, thank GOD for filipino newspapers

    • BillyBEAT

      By working with the President you mean going against your core beliefs to do what he wants? Um no.

  • Hammerstrike

    Long-haired baby boomer: This is the baby that will pay for my retirement.
    Baby: *speaks for 1st time* Not even in your dreams!

  • 2Gary2

    Let’s first be clear about this so-called ‘Tea Party phenomenon:’ it is
    entirely funded and promoted by Koch Industries for the purpose of
    giving the Koch Bros businesses advantages. The only reason they like
    conservative, libertarian groups is because of those groups’ willingness
    to be purchased with $.
    If the Kochs had successfully purchased
    Democratic office-holders or candidates, we would be seeing enormous
    amounts of money promoting the Democratic agenda–like Obamacare and
    immigration reform. Kochs don’t care a whit about ideology–they only
    want votes for their interests, and they are willing to pay the big $ to
    buy the people in congress.

  • Douglas M. Green

    IMO the most underreported event of the next decade will be the JUSTIFIABLE ANGER of our youth who are left with the debt, deficits and unfunded liabilities of their elders and forced to now subsidize the higher risk elder generation via Obamacare. I hope they REFUSE to pay for the bills they didn’t incur!!

    • Orange Jean

      I’m older and I hear the anger, but I don’t think it’s justifiable.

      Problem is they voted for Obama and his buddies, they continue to do that and support all these “programs”, and from what I’ve seen (working in a place where about 90% of my coworkers are in that age group) they themselves have no problem wracking up debt.

      I’ve seen time and again young people with short term jobs (1-2 years) going out and buying the biggest, fanciest car they can get and tons of new clothes. Then complaining about having to live at home and not being able to pay off their student loans and having no money. This is coming out of the mouths of babes who have landed internships in the $48K/year range.They are all optimistic, don’t think the government is going to default, don’t think the government (where we all work) is going to go bankrupt or be shut down for more than a few days… and if they had the chance they’d vote for Obama again.

      I’m NOT saying the young people who haven’t been able to find jobs or have only gotten very low paying jobs have the same mindset… but those in their cohort who’ve gotten the goodies, don’t seem to have a lick of common sense!

      Yes I’m older, but I sure never voted for Obama or anyone who supported the runaway spending or Obamacare. I pay my bills.

  • seads

    Have you noticed the slowdown in postings for the author here? I think he’s running out of steam. As the economy gets better, he has less and less to write about

    • Gay Veteran

      the economy is getting better? ROFLOL

    • RarefiedSnotress

      Probably a family thing.

  • Gay Veteran

    oh I don’t think anyone is a better liar than OUR politicians.

    “…that will allow it to defeat America in battle when the time comes….”
    Nope. No need to because we are a declining empire.
    Why do you think Obama backed off on Syria? Putin and the Chinese were going to dump their U.S. bonds.

  • Gay Veteran

    guess you never heard of the 16th Amendment to the Constitution

  • no what i mean vern?

    I happen to have a p.h.d. and can tell you it is no fun being 33, unemployed, living in the room I grew up in, and sharing a bathroom in Queens with my mom and pop. I am over 135K in student debt and won’t be able to even think about having my own place until after my parent kick the bucket and leave this place to me. I really didn’t think it would turn out this way for me. I have a 13 year old daughter my boyfriend (her father) has custody of because I don’t have my own place. I mean, REALLY americas??? Is this the best you can do for me and others like me??? REALLY???

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      The operative question is, what’s your PHD in?

      • no what i mean vern?

        Women’s Studies, why? Like is that really a big deal???

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          Honestly, I was originally going to ask – what’s your degree in, Black Women’s Studies?

          I asked because with a PHD, I knew you’d like, be under the mistaken impression that your degree is like, actually education. It’s not. You were suckered by leftism to get yourself 135K in student debt for an absolutely WORTHLESS piece of paper and I’m really sorry for you for that.

          You don’t have a PHD, you have a joke. So please, don’t ask if that’s all America has, and don’t hate America, hate the left and YOUR choices. You are responsible for yourself, not America.

          BTW, I do computer programming. I’ve got a 2 year degree and I make just under a 6 figure salary and I thank God on my knees for that.

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          *sigh* I wrote a nice response that apparently inflamed the roids of a censor.
          Yea it matters. Bottom line, You’re not educated. You’ve been duped by leftists.

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          Nope, and that’s why it’s a worthless degree

  • GoldenEagles

    Only when you are totally confused as to what constitutes Light and what constitutes Darkness, could that be called a brilliant post. It is the spirit of the betrayal of every American ideal of bravery, courage, in the fight for freedom.

    • Gay Veteran

      when was the last time we truly fought for freedom?

  • GoldenEagles

    Those who worship the god of gold will be led down the path of self-destruction every time. The fact that you believe that you somehow made good points that address the issues I raised confirms the thesis. Those points mean nothing. Freedom means everything.

    • Nickelthrower

      If that is true then you will move out of the USA immediately as we rank pretty low on any number of “freedom scales”.

      • GoldenEagles

        I can only say that any freedom scale that places America at any other position, but at the top, is a figment of an America hating ideological agenda. America has its problems. But there is no country on the face of the earth that has the level of freedom that we have. If you want to stand your ground on your assertion, give me an example of a particular freedom that another country has, that we do not.

        • Gay Veteran

          “I can only say that any freedom scale that places America at any other position, but at the top, is a figment of an America hating ideological agenda….”

          How many countries do NOT claim the power to kill their own citizens without a trail? without charges?

          How many countries REFUSE to engage in torture?

          How many countries REFUSED to join our war of aggression against Iraq?

          How many countries REFUSED to join our proposed war of aggression against Syria?

          YOU have been thoroughly brainwashed.

          • GoldenEagles

            None of those points go to the issue of the freedoms we have in America.

            In regards to the issues you raise, however, I would simply point out that this is a democracy, and the consensus you can reach on any of the tough issues we have faced since 9/11 is determined by the balance of political power at any given time, and has nothing to do with the issue of our freedom.

            The issues you raise point to actions of a nation currently divided and splintered in a time of great peril and moral confusion.

          • Gay Veteran

            Pharisee, you obviously have reading comprehension problems.

            So let me repeat the points I made about AmeriKa:

            How many countries do NOT claim the power to kill their own citizens without a trail? without charges?

            How many countries REFUSE to engage in torture?

            How many countries REFUSED to join our war of aggression against Iraq?

            How many countries REFUSED to join our proposed war of aggression against Syria?

            YOU have been thoroughly brainwashed.

  • GoldenEagles

    “I dare say the communists in China and Vietnam don’t give a rat’s [***] whether their people are religious.”

    The Communist Chinese raid Christian Church groups every day and throw them in jail.

    The Communist Chinese have banned Falon Gong, and placed tens of thousands of them in prison, and allow organ harvesting from this group.

    You can find plenty of information on this. Religion is what the communists hate most. When the communists took over Russia, the first thing they did was destroy churches, and murder the clergy. When the communist Chinese took over Tibet, the first thing they did was destroy Buddhist monasteries, and kill their clergy. I am surprised that your point of view could contain such a glaring error. This is such a fundamental aspect of the issue.

    Perhaps we have found a point were you are willing to say uncle? Let’s see. Are you capable of affirming an obvious truth, and apologize for stating a glaring falsehood?

    • Gay Veteran

      The Chinese, like any other dictatorship, will oppress those who threaten the elite’s power (which is why Occupy Wall Street was beaten down in “exceptional” America).

      to quote you back: “I am surprised that your point of view could contain such a glaring error.”
      And again, your comments reek of arrogance.

      • GoldenEagles

        I pray your judgment of arrogance upon me would be somewhat mitigated when you come to understand that everything I do and say is built on the foundation of the knowledge of God’s Infinite Love for every child, you, me, and everyone, regardless of culture, nationality, race, gender, or religious affiliation, all are precious in His sight.

        Therefore, it is impossible for me to believe that I am superior to other people, because I know that I am not superior, God’s treasures are available, in unimaginable abundance to all.

        Everything I have of value comes from God. I am grateful, not prideful.

        If I am aware of a path that leads to that fountain of God’s Abundance, and others are not aware of that path, it is not arrogance that sets up the road signs which point in that direction. This is helpfulness.

        And moreover, it is not arrogance that puts those road signs back up, when they are knocked down. This is a determination unto helpfulness.

        And moreover, it is not arrogance that keeps coming back to put the road signs back up, when they are repeatedly knocked down. This is a commitment to helpfulness.

        And you should ask yourself, as long as we are on the subject, what force is it, that would knock down the road signs that point in the direction of God’s Abundance for individuals and for nations?

        This is the force of evil, that flows from demonic realms, which flow through many hearts and minds, those which have not the knowledge of the importance of shutting and sealing those inner windows and doors; those who have become pawns of that force, unwittingly perhaps, simply because they have not yet come to the place where they understand that the fresh air of heaven’s paradise, are the only breezes that are meant to flow through the temple of the individual soul, as these breezes bring the power of unassailable happiness into the life of every child, and into the life of every nation.

        • Gay Veteran

          “…everything I do and say is built on the foundation of the knowledge of God’s Infinite Love for every child, you, me, and everyone, regardless of culture, nationality, race, gender, or religious affiliation, all are precious in His sight….”

          Any yet “exceptional” America murders innocent people around the globe. With drones, with wars of aggression.

          • GoldenEagles

            America is in the midst of the most tangled state of moral confusion in its history. The war on terror has required extraordinary measures to keep America safe. And yes there are moral trade offs. The leadership is working day by day to make sure another 9/11 does not take place. And so the best defense, is a strong offense, being forward deployed attacking the terrorist enemy while they are still far from America’s shores. There are no simple answers to this particular conundrum, other than to say, that we would not be in this situation today, if School Prayer had not been outlawed in 1962.

  • Kid Rob

    Never let it be said that it is not a great time to be an arms dealer. Major in that.

  • mwita samuel

    That is also the case in Kenya many graduates are not employed.When a vacancy is created it requires 10 years experience which we don’t have.Therefore we’re left out.

  • Joseph E Fasciani

    Well, that’s a genius politico for ya! What happens when his daughter marries one and they buy the house next door?

  • yeabuddy

    67% of statistic are made up.

  • GoldenEagles

    I don’t deny that this banner, “America, the Global Guarantor of Freedom” is fraying badly. That’s the whole point of this discussion.

    The point is to understand why, and in identifying the problem, a solution can be found.

    America’s access to the resources of Divine Providence have dried up.

    We must understand why this is so. And we must understand what can be done to reverse this trend.

    I believe that the restoration of prayer in the public schools is a good solid step in the direction of reversing this trend.

    If America’s role as the guarantor of freedom is not shored up, there is no other to take our place.

    The shadow of global tyranny looms, especially when the trend of American decline is affirmed in the minds of the Americans themselves.

  • Gay Veteran

    Oh I totally agree with that. The entire point of zero interest rates and quantitative easing is to prop up the banksters and the stock market.
    And in the process screw over the rest of the 99%.

  • Sam Falcon

    I blame feminist for neutering the last few generations of males

    • no what i mean vern?

      I am so sure that feminists are responsible for the sorry state of american males. Give me a break, please. Women are tired of having to wear the pants as well as the skirts. Take some responsibility? maybe????

      • NCBrian

        Seriously – well said.

      • Sam Falcon

        thanks for proving my point

  • V

    This is what happens for over 15 years now in the eastern Europe, young people have to abandon their families for jobs abroad…. Shouldn’t be better like young people may stay in teir own countries and learn about their culture and than everyone will be excited when travel abroad ( and discover different cultures) but the “250” group is over governments and they just try to have the global government. ( it may be good but till gets there many many lives will be screwed).
    good luck folks!!!

  • Abigail

    I do not blame Young American Expat from leaving America. However, (and you may call me negative) I do not believe anyone is going to have the luxury of the tactic to be able to run and hide. The whole economy is going to crash. You may disagree but the world has embraced immorality for many years. I can go into details if you want. Also, do not get me started about Islamic extremism. I do not desire everything going to hell in a hand basket. However maybe America and the world maybe the world deserves it in for many reasons. I will try to be smart, be prepared, fight to live, and trust in God.

  • Tony Lopez-Cisneros

    I Suggest That All Students &-Or Graduates To Read &-Or Listen To JOHN TODD–As He Spoke In The 1970s Not Only On ATLAS SHRUGGED–TODD PERSONALLY KNEW THE MAN BEHIND THE AUTHOR–BUT WHAT IS IN STORE FOR TODD’S AND THE NEXT GENERATION (GENERATION X):
    IT MAY VERY WELL “BLOW” YOUR MIND.
    Truthfully, Honestly, Sincerely Yours And Faithfully Recorded & Submitted,
    Tony Cisneros
    2011 (& Possible 2015) Candidate For City Treasurer,
    City Of Chicago,
    State Of Illinois,
    United States Of America.

  • fred flinstone

    what this means is when the ebt peoples benefits runs out these disillusioned ones will join them in their riots and home invasion attempts to get what they need in order to survive.

  • Anne Armstrong

    All our systems are failing, not only the economic one. Humanity has gone through, and is currently going through much upheaval and suffering but the coming years will be unprecedented if you factor in the global societal instabilities, modern slavery and migration; rampant corporate, political and other forms of corruption, radicalism of all sorts, disastrous global climate changes -which are both “natural” and caused/exacerbated by mankind.

    After 9/11 there was no air traffic above the US for several days. The air pollution caused by airplanes dropped, because the planes were not flying.

    This pollution actually functioned as an inadvertent filter between the sun and the earth, blocking the sun”s rays.

    Temperatures rose within several days after all domestic flights were grounded. There was less pollution, less filtering between the sun and the earth.
    Air traffic is not natural. It has been created by mankind.
    There is also scientific evidence that the sun’s rays and solar flares are increasing.

    Put the two together.

    Think…..think….think clearly. You will also be less easy to mislead. You do not need a college degree to think. Life is the greatest teacher.

    So why don’t we see? Why do we buy into all the garbage? What holds us back from seeing and then acting?

    The solutions lie in a global change in consciousness. Waking up. Getting together. Seeing the interconnectedness of life and not just our own needs.

    Seeing through the deceit and lies fed to us daily. Seeing the goodness that still manifests in the world.

    Whatever, don’t give up. New times are around the corner. We cannot go on this way. Something will give.

    Are there enough “decent”, wise and brave people out there ready to come forward? The answer is yes. As things crumble around us all, the seeds are sown for a new kind of society.

    This is not an ideology, but a fact.

  • Jabsdna

    Wow amazing and sad !

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