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37 Facts That Show How Cruel This Economy Has Been To Millions Of Desperate American Families

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Have you ever laid in bed awake at night with a knot in your stomach because you didn’t know how your family was possibly going to make it through the next month financially?  Have you ever felt the desperation of not being able to provide the basic necessities for your family even though you tried as hard as you could?  All over America tonight, there are millions of desperate families that are being ripped apart by this economy.  There aren’t nearly enough jobs, and millions of Americans that actually do have jobs aren’t making enough to even provide the basics for their families.  When you have tried everything that you can think of and nothing works, it can be absolutely soul crushing.  Today, one of my regular readers explained that he was not going to be online for a while because his power had been turned off.  He has been out of work for quite a while, and eventually the money runs out.  Have you ever been there?  If you have ever experienced that moment, you know that it stays with you for the rest of your life.  If you are single that is bad enough, but when you have to look into the eyes of your children and explain to them why there won’t be any dinner tonight or why they have to move into a homeless shelter it can feel like someone has driven a stake into your heart.  In this article you will find a lot of very shocking economic statistics.  But please remember that behind each statistic are the tragic stories of millions of desperately hurting American families.

Over the past decade, things have steadily gotten worse for American families no matter what our politicians have tried.  Poverty and government dependence continue to rise.  The cost of living continues to go up and incomes continue to go down.  It is truly frightening to think about what this country is going to look like if current trends continue.

The following are 37 facts that show how cruel this economy has been to millions of desperate American families…

1. One recent survey discovered that 40 percent of all Americans have $500 or less in savings.

2. A different recent survey found that 28 percent of all Americans do not have a single penny saved for emergencies.

3. In the United States today, there are close to 10 million households that do not have a single bank account.  That number has increased by about a million since 2009.

4. Family homelessness in the Washington D.C. region (one of the wealthiest regions in the entire country) has risen 23 percent since the last recession began.

5. The number of Americans living in poverty has increased by about 6 million over the past four years.

6. Median household income has fallen for four years in a row.  Overall, it has declined by more than $4000 over the past four years.

7. 62 percent of middle class Americans say that they have had to reduce household spending over the past year.

8. According to a survey conducted by the Pew Research Center, 85 percent of middle class Americans say that it is more difficult to maintain a middle class standard of living today than it was 10 years ago.

9. In the United States today, 77 percent of all Americans are living to paycheck to paycheck at least some of the time.

10. In the United States today, more than 41 percent of all working age Americans are not working.

11. Since January 2009, the “labor force” in the United States has increased by 827,000, but “those not in the labor force” has increased by 8,208,000.  This is how they have gotten the unemployment numbers to “come down”.

12. Sadly, 60 percent of the jobs lost during the last recession were mid-wage jobs, but 58 percent of the jobs created since then have been low wage jobs.

13. Today, about one out of every four workers in the United States brings home wages that are at or below the federal poverty level.

14. Right now, the United States actually has a higher percentage of workers doing low wage work than any other major industrialized nation does.

15. At this point, less than 25 percent of all jobs in the United States are “good jobs”, and that number continues to shrink.

16. There are now 20.2 million Americans that spend more than half of their incomes on housing.  That represents a 46 percent increase from 2001.

17. According to USA Today, many Americans have actually seen their water bills triple over the past 12 years.

18. Electricity bills in the United States have risen faster than the overall rate of inflation for five years in a row.

19. In 1999, 64.1 percent of all Americans were covered by employment-based health insurance.  Today, only 55.1 percent are covered by employment-based health insurance.

20. Health insurance premiums rose faster than the overall rate of inflation in 2011 and that is happening once again in 2012.  In fact, it has been happening for a very long time.

21. According to one recent survey, approximately 10 percent of all employers in the United States plan to drop health coverage when key provisions of the new health care law kick in less than two years from now.

22. Back in 1983, the bottom 95 percent of all income earners had 62 cents of debt for every dollar that they earned.  By 2007, that figure had soared to $1.48.

23. Total home mortgage debt in the United States is now about 5 times larger than it was just 20 years ago.

24. Total consumer debt in the United States has risen by 1700 percent since 1971.

25. Recently it was announced that total student loan debt in the United States has passed the one trillion dollar mark.

26. According to one recent survey, approximately one-third of all Americans are not paying their bills on time at this point.

27. Right now, approximately 25 million American adults are living at home with their parents.

28. The percentage of Americans that find that they are able to retire when they reach retirement age continues to decline.  According to one new survey, 70 percent of middle class Americans plan to work during retirement and 30 percent plan to work until they are at least 80 years old.

29. The U.S. economy lost more than 220,000 small businesses during the recent recession.

30. In 2010, the number of jobs created at new businesses in the United States was less than half of what it was back in the year 2000.

31. Back in 2007, 19.2 percent of all American families had a net worth of zero or less than zero.  By 2010, that figure had soared to 32.5 percent.

32. Approximately 57 percent of all children in the United States are living in homes that are either considered to be either “low income” or impoverished.

33. In the United States today, somewhere around 100 million Americans are considered to be either “poor” or “near poor”.

34. In October 2008, 30.8 million Americans were on food stamps.  Today, 46.7 million Americans are on food stamps.

35. Approximately one-fourth of all children in the United States are enrolled in the food stamp program.

36. Right now, more than 100 million Americans are enrolled in at least one welfare program run by the federal government.  And that does not even count Social Security or Medicare.

37. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, an all-time record 49 percent of all Americans live in a home where at least one person receives financial assistance from the federal government.  Back in 1983, that number was less than 30 percent.

What makes all of this even more frightening is that many homeless shelters and food banks around the nation are so overloaded at this point that they are already over capacity.  Just consider this example

When Janice Coe, a homeless advocate in Loudoun County, learned through her prayer group that a young woman was sleeping in the New Carrollton Metro station with a toddler and a 2-month-old, she sprang into action.

Coe contacted the young woman and arranged for her to take the train to Virginia, where she put the little family up in a Comfort Suites hotel. Then Coe began calling shelters to see who could take them.

Despite several phone calls, she came up empty. Coe was shocked to learn that many of the local shelters that cater to families were full, including Good Shepherd Alliance, where Coe was once director of social services.

“I don’t know why nobody will take this girl in,” Coe said. “The baby still had a hospital bracelet on her wrist.”

Keep in mind that Loudoun Country is smack dab in the middle of one of the wealthiest areas of Virginia.

So if things are that bad in the wealthy areas, exactly how bad are things getting in many of the poorer areas?

Unfortunately, things continue to get worse for this economy.  DuPont has just announced plans to eliminate 1,500 jobs.  There are more major layoff announcements almost every single day.  So how bad will things get when our crumbling economic system finally collapses?  When kind of chaos will be unleashed all over the nation when millions upon millions of Americans finally lose all hope?

In the introduction to this article, I mentioned that one of my regular readers has had his lights turned off.  The following is how he described his situation

No gas, no water, no electricity at my house. Couldn’t pay the bills. I’m broke. Desperately searching for any means of income, or at least enough cash to get the juice (electricity) restored.

Typing this missive in a dark house using the battery on my laptop. Feels like I’m camping out at home. Hope to get this situation fixed tomorrow… somehow. Needless to say, I *…. hate this.

I was ready for this, but it is still a major league inconvenience. For those of you who DO have power, etc. – and are not ready… oh brother. You need to get ready. Seriously, you do. Because what I’m going through is just an inconvenience. It may someday be a normal occurence. Ugh. (expletives deleted)

Hopefully a way can be found to get his situation turned around, but the truth is that there are tens of millions of other similar stories out there in America today.

What about you?  What are things like in your neck of the woods?  Please feel free to share your thoughts below…

  • Syrin

    It’s funny how waging war on the economy, the successful, job producers and businesses leads to wide spread poverty and misery. It happened in Ancient Rome, Argentina, USSR, Nazi Germany, Zimbabwe, etc. Pretty much anywhere any version of liberalism has been attempted, and any means of wealth re-distribution have been implemented, we get DISASTROUS results. Witness modern day Europe and all their bankrupt Keynesian welfare states. The really odd thing? Liberals are incapable of witnessing history and learning. Numbers and facts might as well be the fifth dimension. When was this nation most prosperous? When we didn’t have 75,000 PAGES of tax codes and over 100,000 PAGES of regulations that cost us $1.7 TRILLION annually (regulations alone). So what’s GARY’S and most liberals’ solutions? Punish the successful MORE, greedily take MORE of people’s property even though this leads to greater poverty, greater suffering, businesses closing, cutting back staff, etc. No, according to them, we need 125,000 PAGES of regulation. It’s bizarre how the greedy liberals think monopolies are evil re-incarnated yet fail to grasp the single biggest monopoly IS the gov’t. Now the gov’t just takes over huge swathes of our economy in true fascist manner by definition, and we all suffer while the left cheers. Detroit is a hell hole, spiraling into decay,and the same is true for all urban liberal utopias be it Memphis, Chicago, LA, etc. Solution? Do it on a NATIONAL scale. Pavlov’s dog showed more intelligence than the left.

    • Gary2

      the GAP between the rich and everyone else is so big that it can not be explained by the rich being successful. They have rigged the system. We can not have a democracy with the concentration of wealth so lop sided.

      • Dr. David G.

        What Gary refuses to admit, over and over again, is that it is the system, not the rich, that have impoverished so many. Our founding fathers understood that should we adopt a fiat currency (fake money), like the Bank of England tried to force on the colonies, instead of using silver coins (commodity money) we would end up bankrupt on the shores our forefathers fought to give us. Currency, and in our case fiat currency, is the sea that we all swim in when doing any transaction. By law its the only means by which we can carry out transactions. And from that fiat cesspool has arisen a system of debt instruments that only furthers the creation of fiat money and puts the common man further behind. It isn’t the successful businessman or woman, or the rich guy, who has gotten us into trouble. Its a much smaller group of behind-the-scenes bankers who have, over two centuries, so currupted our currency, and our instruments of debt so that we are now facing a debt bomb that is exploding in slow motion right before our eyes. So Gary, stop with the class warefare, and the division. Your castigation of the rich is far too large a net that captures good, honest, and fair successful people in a catch-22 damned if they do and damned if the don’t. If you’re going to blame “the rich”, you need to boil it down to a very small group of twenty living men and woman, and about a hundred souls since the beginning of our fiat system who are responsible for the deleveraging and debt cycles that are now causing the entire economy to tank.

        • Walter

          Dr. David,

          You couldn’t be more wrong about this history!

          I encourage you to look into the Continental Congress’ use of Continentals, which were partly a fiat based form of money!

          This history has been obscured and rewritten. Your guotes are highly misleading. That’s fine that you have a personal belief about fiat money, but you are rewriting history to pretend that the “founders” agreed with you (Hamilton and many others certainly did, so you got that one right). The founders are not Gods anyway . . .

          One way this history has been hidden I’ve noticed is on Wikipedia. I remember searching Greenbacks for instance last year and now when I go back the entries have been hijacked. I don’t care what side of this issue you come down on–the history is bad and incomplete as told.

          Anyway, lots of the images one sees on the internet of the Continentals show the ones that were backed by gold. Because they did back some of them with gold, is my understanding, to instill trust or to be used for certain debts, but then they used non gold backed ones as well and it’s hard to find evidence of that on the internet now.

          The fiat history has been hidden because it threatens the masters. Can’t have that.

          This history has been jacked with and hidden. You’ve turned Jefferson into something he wasn’t for instance, here’s a fuller explanation of his quote that you’ve misinterpreted and taken out of context: (there is a lot to unpack here but note for now the allegation of speculators jacking with thy money supply–I hope to explore these details fuller in the future)

          Also, why not include Benjamin Franklin’s pro fiat writings? His are probably most important on the subject because of his pioneering role. Also, why not include Andrew Jackson and Abraham Lincoln’s view of fiat money? Or discuss the fact that Hamilton and Madison represented the bankers interests?

        • Gary2

          there is class warfare and the rich have won.

        • Paul

          Yes, of course its the system.

          Want to have a revolution right now and overthrow the system, or just tax the rich?

      • Dr. David G.

        • George Washington wrote to Thomas Jefferson on Aug. 1, 1786, “Paper money has had the effect in your state that it will ever have, to ruin commerce, oppress the honest, and open the door to every species of fraud and injustice.”

        • “Paper is poverty,” Jefferson in turn observed in 1788. “It is only the ghost of money, and not money itself.” In 1817, the author of the Declaration of Independence wrote that paper money’s “abuses also are inevitable and, by breaking up the measure of value, make a lottery of all private property.”

        • “Paper money is unjust,” declared James Madison, chief architect of the Constitution. “It is unconstitutional, for it affects the rights of property as much as taking away equal value in land.”

        • Alexander Hamilton, America’s first Treasury secretary, warned: “To emit an unfunded paper as the sign of value ought not to continue a formal part of the Constitution, nor ever hereafter to be employed; being, in its nature, pregnant with abuses, and liable to be made the engine of imposition and fraud; holding out temptations equally pernicious to the integrity of government and to the morals of the people.”

        “The Founders recognized the perils of legal-tender paper money, which coerces people to accept something that may be inherently worthless — as is the case with our paper money today,” says Lawrence M. Parks, executive director of the Foundation for the Advancement of Monetary Education (FAME) in New York City.

        Why did the men who launched this nation disdain paper money? They had watched British colonial governments debauch their currencies and, consequently, impoverish their citizens — including some of the Founders.

        Connecticut’s Roger Sherman signed both the Declaration and the Constitution. Thomas Jefferson called him “a man who never said a foolish thing in his life.” Sherman recalled in 1752 that among the Rhode Island colony’s government-issued Bills of Credit, “in the year 1743 . . . twenty-seven shillings Old-Tenor was equal to one ounce of silver. And by an Act of their General Assembly passed in March last, they stated fifty-four shilling Old-Tenor Bills equal to one ounce of silver, which sunk their value one half.”

        During the Revolution, Virginia also issued paper money. Its unbearable lightness eventually made Madison and Washington wince as their tenants paid for leased land with worthless currency. For his part, Virginia’s devaluation left Jefferson on the losing end of a large bond transaction. He lived impecuniously for the rest of his life and died broke.

        Jefferson’s experience with fiat currency surely influenced his views. “If we determine that a Dollar shall be our Unit,” he wrote in 1784, “we must then say with precision what a Dollar is.” Indeed, the Coinage Act of 1792 declared each dollar worth 371.25 grains of pure silver or 24.75 grains of pure gold.

        For 179 years, the dollar and gold remained linked. But on Aug. 15, 1971, Pres. Richard Milhous Nixon ordered the Treasury “to suspend temporarily the convertibility of the dollar into gold or other reserve assets.” Since then, Washington has created cash as easily as saying, “Shazzam!” The M3 money-supply measure soared from $688.4 billion in 1971 to $10.3 trillion in March 13, 2006, whereupon the Fed suddenly stopped publishing these inconvenient truths. This loose cash has helped Washington boost the national debt from $398.13 billion in 1971 to $14.34 trillion today. The dollar’s purchasing power has slid, meanwhile, even as gold has climbed from $35 per ounce in 1971 to $1,511 per ounce on Thursday.

        In 2002, Ben Bernanke — then a Princeton economics professor and now Federal Reserve chairman — marveled at the Fed’s nearly supernatural powers. As he explained, it “has a technology called a printing press (or, today, its electronic equivalent) that allows it to produce as many U.S. dollars as it wishes at essentially no cost.”

        No cost?

        Bernanke’s estimated $1.7 trillion in quantitative easing, investment adviser Richard M. Salsman writes in Forbes magazine’s June 27 issue, is “a euphemism for money printing, a policy that’s akin to medical quackery — and potentially as lethal.” Salsman argues that Bernanke and his Fed buddies “contributed to massive budget deficits and then monetized the debt and caused inflation. The result has been a fiscal mess and interminable stagflation, but perhaps worst of all, the policies have established precedents for future monetary malpractice.”

        From his lair high above Midtown Manhattan, FAME’s Parks monitors all of this with a single-mindedness that skirts obsession. As the repercussions of letting politicians invent money simmer in Washington and boil in Athens, Parks sees the path to economic sanity as clearly in 2011 as the Founders did in 1776.

        “All we need to do is reassert the monetary powers and disabilities of the Constitution,” Parks says, “which require that America re-monetize gold and silver as money.”

        • Walter

          Maybe I was unfair to Madison above:

          “History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance.”
          President James Madison

          Anyway, here’s a good introduction to the Greenbacker vs. Goldbug debate I found:

        • Walter

          Here’s Benjamin Franklin describing the effects of the 1764 Currency Act which took away America’s ability to print fiat money and required them to pay taxes to Britain in gold or silver:

          “In one year, the conditions were so reversed that the era of prosperity ended, and a depression set in, to such an extent that the streets of the Colonies were filled with unemployed.”

          “The colonies would gladly have borne the little tax on tea and other matters had it not been that England took away from the colonies their money, which created unemployment and dissatisfaction. The inability of the colonists to get power to issue their own money permanently out of the hands of George III and the international bankers was the PRIME reason for the Revolutionary War.”

      • Eisenkreutz

        America isnt a democracy. Its a republic.

        • phelps

          America used to be a Republic. It is a Democracy now, just not a pure Democracy. We the people have no representation in the U.S. Congress. Lobbyists and special interests are more powerful than our congress.

          The average joe and jane are being squeezed from the right and left.

          We are like the guy who gets into the middle of two men fist fighting. We get hit from both sides.

          Good day.

          • John W.

            Amen brother. Best summation in a long time of why things are broke and will stay broke.

      • Donald Wilson

        Its a republic gary not a democracy.

      • MissBonnie123

        I agree that the concentration of wealth is lopsided. However, if you tax the “rich” it will not be the rich, that is multimillionaires and multibillionaires(like George Soros),who would be paying more taxes. It will be the middle class who will be paying more taxes and this will lead to their further impoverishment.

        It is actually extremely rich people like George Soros and the CEO’s of corporations who influence and guide economic policy in America. They are actually the “shadow government.” They could care less about the middle class.

        • Gary2

          I agree we have many unelected officials such as soros and the koch brothers,

      • Nancy

        I think most people here just tune out what Gary2 says – pretend socialists don’t carry any weight. Especially ones who sound like a broken record. I would suspect he’s never done a full days work in his life, just sponged off others while berating them.

        The problem is so much more than the libs “rich” vs “poor.” George Soros is behind so much of the evil in the world. He is the reason BO insists on having a blackberry with him at all times – where his calls aren’t monitored (unheard of for a President – I use that term very lightly because he is no president).

        Here is an article I got today about George Soros. Glenn Beck was ousted from FOX News because he was letting too many people know what he is all about.

        Steve Kroft (born August 22, 1945) is an American journalist and a longtime correspondent for “60 Minutes”. His investigative reporting has garnered him much acclaim, including three Peabody Awards and nine Emmy awards, one of which was an Emmy for Lifetime Achievement

        You can understand what is happening to our America after reading this.

        May God have mercy upon our nation.

        One Evil Human – FROM STEVE KROFT (“60 Minutes”)

        Glen Beck has been developing material to show all the ties that Soros has through the nation and world along with his goals. This article is written by Steve Kroft from “60 Minutes”. It begins to piece together the rise of Obama and his behavior in leading the nation along with many members of Congress (in particular the Democrats, such as the election of Pelosi as the minority leader in Congress).

        If you have wondered where Obama came from and just how he quickly moved from obscurity to President, or why the media is “selective” in what we are told, here is the man who most probably put him there and is responsible. He controls President Obama’s every move. Think this is absurd? Invest a few minutes and read this. You won’t regret it.

        Who is Obama? Obama is a puppet and here is the explanation of the man or demon that pulls his strings. It’s not by chance that Obama can manipulate the world. I don’t think he knows how to tie his shoe laces. After reading this and Obama’s reluctance to accept help on the oil spill you wonder if the spill is part of the plan to destroy the US? “In history, nothing happens by accident. If it happened, you can bet someone planned it.”/ Franklin Delano Roosevelt

        Who Is George Soros? He brought the market down in 2 days. Here is what CBS’ Mr. Steve Kroft’s research has turned up. It’s a bit of a read, and it took 4 months to put it together. “The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States. “George Soros”

        George Soros is an evil man. He’s anti-God, anti-family, anti-American, and anti-good.” He killed and robbed his own Jewish people. What we have in Soros, is a multi-billionaire atheist, with skewed moral values, and a sociopath’s lack of conscience. He considers himself to be an elitist World class philosopher, despises the American way, and just loves to do social engineering and change cultures.

        György Schwartz, better known to the world as George Soros, was born August 12, 1930 inHungary . Soros’ father, Tivadar, was a fervent practitioner of the Esperanto language invented in 1887, and designed to be the first global language, free of any national identity. The Schwartz’s, who were non-practicing Jews, changed the family name to Soros, in order to facilitate assimilation into the Gentile population, as the Nazis spread into Hungary during the 1930s.

        When Hitler’s henchman Adolf Eichmann arrived in Hungary , to oversee the murder of that country’s Jews, George Soros ended up with a man whose job was confiscating property from the Jewish population. Soros went with him on his rounds.

        Soros has repeatedly called 1944 “the best year of his life.” 70% of Mr. Soros’s fellow Jews in Hungary, nearly a half-million human beings, were annihilated in that year, yet he gives no sign that this put any damper on his elation, either at the time or indeed in retrospect” During an interview with “Sixty Minute’s” Steve Kroft, Soros was asked about his “best year.”

        KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson. SOROS: Yes. Yes.

        KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from your fellow Jews, friends and neighbors. SOROS: Yes. That’s right. Yes.

        KROFT: I mean, that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many, years. Was it difficult?

        SOROS: No, not at all. Not at all, I rather enjoyed it.

        KROFT: No feelings of guilt?

        SOROS: No, only feelings of absolute power.

        In his article, Muravchik describes how Soros has admitted to having carried some rather “potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood, which I felt I had to control, otherwise they might get me in trouble.” Be that as it may. After WWII, Soros attended the London School of Economics, where he fell under the thrall of fellow atheist and Hungarian, Karl Popper, one of his professors. Popper was a mentor to Soros until Popper’s death in 1994. Two of Popper’s most influential teachings concerned “the open society,” and Fallibilism.

        Fallibilism is the philosophical doctrine that all claims of knowledge could, in principle, be mistaken. (Then again, I could be wrong about that.) The “open society” basically refers to a “test and evaluate” approach to social engineering. Regarding “open society” Roy Childs writes, “Since the Second World War, most of the Western democracies have followed Popper’s advice about piecemeal social engineering and democratic social reform, and it has gotten them into a grand mess.”

        In 1956 Soros moved to New York City , where he worked on Wall Street, and started amassing his fortune. He specialized in hedge funds and currency speculation. Soros is absolutely ruthless, amoral, and clever in his business dealings, and quickly made his fortune. By the 1980s he was well on his way to becoming the global powerhouse that he is today.

        In an article Kyle-Anne Shiver wrote for “The American Thinker” she says, “Soros made his first billion in 1992 by shorting the British pound with leveraged billions in financial bets, and became known as the man who broke the Bank of England . He broke it on the backs of hard-working British citizens who immediately saw their homes severely devalued and their life savings cut drastically, almost overnight.”

        In 1994 Soros crowed in “The New Republic ,” that “the former Soviet Empire is now called the Soros Empire.” The Russia-gate scandal in 1999, which almost collapsed the Russian economy, was labeled by Rep. Jim Leach, then head of the House Banking Committee, to be “one of the greatest social robberies in human history. “The “Soros Empire” indeed. In 1997 Soros almost destroyed the economies of Thailand and Malaysia . At the time, Malaysia ‘s Prime Minister, Mahathir Mohammad, called Soros “a = villain, and a moron.” Thai activist Weng Tojirakarn said, “We regard George Soros as a kind of Dracula. He sucks the blood from the people.”

        The website Greek National Pride reports, “Soros was part of the full court press that dismantled Yugoslavia and caused trouble in Georgia , Ukraine and Myanmar [Burma] Calling himself a philanthropist, Soros’ role is to tighten the ideological stranglehold of globalization and the New World Order while promoting his own financial gain. He is without conscience; a capitalist who functions with absolute amorality.”

        France has upheld an earlier conviction against Soros, for felony insider trading. Soros was fined 2.9 million dollars. Recently, his native Hungary fined Soros 2.2 million dollars for “illegal market manipulation.” Elizabeth Crum writes that the Hungarian economy has been in a state of transition as the country seeks to become more financially stable and westernized. Soros deliberately driving down the share price of its largest bank put Hungary ‘s economy into a wicked tailspin, one from which it is still trying to recover.

        My point here is that Soros is a planetary parasite. His grasp, greed, and gluttony have a global reach. But what about America ? Soros told Australia ‘s national newspaper “The Australian.” ” America, as the centre of the globalised financial markets, was sucking up the savings of the world. This is now over. The game is out,” he said, adding that the time has come for “a very serious adjustment” in American’s consumption habits. He implied that he was the one with the power to bring this about.”

        Soros: “World financial crisis was “stimulating” and “in a way, the culmination of my life’s work.”

        Obama has recently promised 10 billion of our tax dollars to Brazil , in order to give them a leg-up in expanding their offshore oil fields. Obama’s largesse towards Brazil came shortly after his political financial backer, George Soros, invested heavily in Brazilian oil (Petrobras).

        Tait Trussel writes, “The Petrobras loan may be a windfall for Soros and Brazil, but it is a bad deal for the U. S. The American Petroleum Institute estimates that oil exploration in the U S could create 160,000 new, well-paying jobs, as well as $1.7 trillion in revenues to federal, state, and local governments, all while fostering greater energy security and independence.”

        A blog you might want to keep an eye on is Their mission: “This blog is dedicated to all who have suffered due to the ruthless financial pursuits of George Soros. Your stories are many and varied, but the theme is the same: the destructive power of greed without conscience. We pledge to tirelessly watch Soros wherever he goes and to print the truth in the hope that he will one day be made to stop preying upon the world’s poor, that justice will be served.”

        Back to America. Soros has been actively working to destroy America from the inside out for some years now. People have been warning us. Two years ago, news sources reported that “Soros [is] an extremist who wants open borders, a one-world foreign policy, legalized drugs, euthanasia, and on and on. This is off-the-chart dangerous.”\ In 1997 Rachel Ehrenfeld wrote, “Soros uses his philanthropy to change or more accurately deconstruct the moral values and attitudes of the Western world, and particularly of the American people. His “open society” is not about freedom; it is about license. His vision rejects the notion of ordered liberty, in favor of a PROGRESSIVE ideology of rights and entitlements.”

        Perhaps the most important of these “whistle blowers” are David Horowitz and Richard Poe. Their book “The Shadow Party” outlines in detail how Soros hijacked the Democratic Party, and now owns it lock, stock, and barrel. Soros has been packing the Democratic Party with radicals, and ousting moderate Democrats for years. The Shadow Party became the Shadow Government, which recently became the Obama Administration.

        Discover The Networks. org (another good source) writes, “By his [Soros’] own admission, he helped engineer coups in Slovakia, Croatia, Georgia and Yugoslavia . When Soros targets a country for “regime change,” he begins by creating a shadow government, a fully formed government-in-exile, ready to assume power when the opportunity arises. The Shadow Party he has built in America greatly resembles those he has created in other countries prior to instigating a coup.”

        November 2008 edition of the German magazine “Der Spiegel,” in which Soros gives his opinion on what the next POTUS (President of the U. S. ) should do after taking office. “I think we need a large stimulus package.” Soros thought that around 600 billion would be about right. Soros also said that “I think Obama presents us a great opportunity to finally deal with global warming and energy dependence. The U.S. needs a cap and trade system with auctioning of licenses for emissions rights.”

        Although Soros doesn’t (yet) own the Republican Party, like he does the Democrats, make no mistake, his tentacles are spread throughout the Republican Party as well.

        Soros is a partner in the Carlyle Group where he has invested more than 100 million dollars. According to an article by “The Baltimore Chronicle’s” Alice Cherbonnier, the Carlye Group is run by “a veritable who’s who of former Republican leaders,” from CIA man Frank Carlucci, to CIA head and ex-President George Bush, Sr.

        In late 2006, Soros bought about 2 million shares of Halliburton, Dick Cheney’s old stomping grounds. When the Democrats and Republicans held their conventions in 2000, Soros held Shadow Party conventions in the same cities, at the same time. In 2008, Soros donated $5,000,000,000 ( that’s Five Billion ) to the Democratic National Committee, DNC, to insure Obama’s win and wins for many other Alinsky trained Radical Rules Anti-American Socialist. George has been contributing a $ billion plus to the DNC since Clinton came on the scene.

        Soros has dirtied both sides of the aisle, trust me. And if that weren’t bad enough, he has long held connections with the CIA. And I mustn’t forget to mention Soros’ involvement with the MSM (Main Stream Media), the entertainment industry (e.g. he owns 2.6 million shares of Time Warner), and the various political advertising organizations he funnels millions to. In short, George Soros controls or influences most of the MSM. Little wonder they ignore the TEA PARTY, Soro’s NEMESIS.

        As Matthew Vadum writes, “The liberal billionaire-turned-philanthropist has been buying up media properties for years in order to drive home his message to the American public that they are too materialistic, too wasteful, too selfish, and too stupid to decide for themselves how to run their own lives.”

        Richard Poe writes, “Soros’ private philanthropy, totaling nearly $5 billion, continues underminingAmerica ‘s traditional Western values. His giving has provided funding of abortion rights, atheism, drug legalization, sex education, euthanasia, feminism, gun control, globalization, mass immigration, gay marriage and other radical experiments in social engineering.”

        Some of the many NGOs (Non-Government Organizations) that Soros funds with his billions are: MoveOn. org, the Apollo Alliance, Media Matters for America, the Tides Foundation, the ACLU, ACORN, PDIA (Project on Death In America), La Raza, and many more. For a more complete list, with brief descriptions of the NGOs, go to DiscoverTheNetworks. org.

        Poe continues, “Through his global web of Open Society Institutes and Open Society Foundations, Soros has spent 25 years recruiting, training, indoctrinating and installing a network of loyal operatives in 50 countries, placing them in positions of influence and power in media, government, finance and academia.”

        Without Soros’ money, would the Saul Alinsky’s Chicago machine still be rolling? Would SEIU, ACORN, and La Raza still be pursuing their nefarious activities? Would Big Money and lobbyists still be corrupting government? Would our college campuses still be retirement homes for 1960s radicals?

        America stands at the brink of an abyss, and that fact is directly attributable to Soros. Soros has vigorously, cleverly, and insidiously planned the ruination of America and his puppet, Barack Obama is leading the way.

        The words of Patrick Henry are apropos: “Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!”
        Above information researched by CBS Steve Kroft

        “The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. “Thomas Jefferson

        • Gay Veteran

          Soros? how about the Koch brothers buying elections

      • Kevin2


        No question about it. To ensure it they co-opted both political party’s to achieve it.

      • davidmpark

        Prove it. Now.

      • bobbobbob

        u r good
        they r stupid
        if uneed afew hundred letme know

    • Gary2

      The “Successful” are the ones who crashed the economy.

      • MarkieMark

        No Gary, it was the Liberal politicians who pushed banks, Fannie & Freddie to make available loans so EVERYONE could be a Homeowner. That money couldn’t be created out of thin air so they had to devise financial instruments to make it happen. Then when it went bust, they blame Wall Street and the Banks.

        • Nancy

          I have a friend who works in a bank and verified what you say. They were threatened – they had to make loans they knew were bad or be punished. Then they get punished for having made the loans.

          I don’t like the “too big to fail” banks at all – I wish BOA would go out of business. I want it back to the good old days when you had local banks and they knew the people. Same with stores and companies. I know I should have been born 100 years ago.

        • Kevin2


          So the Republicans are innocent of our demise?

          The housing loan crash was a symptom of a greater evil. Home construction was pushed to offset the loss of manufacturing employment. Home construction does not compete with global manufacturing. The ultra cheap loans to the unworthy was a falsehood that like it’s sibling the “service economy” bought time to keep things going until the de-industrialization mission was too far along to stop.

          The Republicans were 83% in favor of Free Trade (with the savour of the working man Democrats only 80% in favor) with slave labor nations and a like percentage supported abandoning Glass-Stegall (that Clinton actually penned) which facilitated the re-legalization of larceny in the Financial “Industry”.

          They’re all as guilty as sin.

        • Independentone

          And those banks were forced into taking those loans, they couldn’t say no. So, again, not very good businesspeople I guess. They saw that this was going to happen and did went along with it anyway. and remember it was your guy, Bush, who told everyone to go buy a house. **************** you guys don’t accept responsibility for anything.

          • Independentone

            just for you michael. we had a bet here with friends, I live in North Spokane area, that you would not print my comment or at the very least, you would edit it because deep down you are a conservative. I have read your blog for some time now finding some very useful information about collapse and taking care of my family. then you started veering off in the blog and the shadows of your agenda seemed to come forward more.
            Thanks for the free dinner.

        • sharonsj

          Sorry, but nobody MADE the banks loan money to people who couldn’t afford the house. And nobody MADE the banks turn the mortgages into weird stocks and bonds and all sorts of crazy stuff that was worthless. And nobody MADE the banks and the hedge funds sell that shit to unsuspecting people, and pension funds, and other banks, while swearing the shit didn’t stink. That’s why they all belong in jail.

          • Kevin2

            While no one made the banks and financial institutions do what they did what did happen is regulatory laws were changed or abandoned to facilitate a profit out of what was considered a risk or loss. Debt was packaged and sold as an asset and when the deck of cards came tumbling down the US taxpayer de-facto covered the loss.

            Many lament traditional domestic welfare and ignore corporate, finance, banking welfare.

        • Col. Wilson

          Its worthless trying to show Gary2 facts because he lives in a different world that does not work with facts.

          All he ever says is TAX THE RICH & SPREAD THE WEALTH.

          I tried to help, but all he does is promote the same rhetoric


          • Paul

            Tax the rich doesn’t help. They will leave the country.

            Tax the poor, they can’t leave.

        • Gary2

          none of the banks that went down are under that mandate you refer to. Sorry try again

        • Gay Veteran

          “it was the Liberal politicians who pushed banks, Fannie & Freddie to make available loans so EVERYONE could be a Homeowner.”

          pure garbage! the problem arose with the sub-prime mortgages which were made by companies that were NOT governed by the community reinvestment act

          and Bush ordered Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac to buy sub-primes mortgages

          • Kevin2

            The point is moot. Regardless of the validity of the mortgages Free Trade is at the root cause. Good jobs fled overseas to virtual slave labor and the formerly employed workers could not pay their bills. That in effect created a downhill snowball that gained in size and speed due to the overall excessive levels of debt created by too easy credit and the economy’s dependence upon that debt as the economic engine. That too easy credit fueled the economy in the absence of traditional manufacturing.

            All of this is no accident but rather an unavoidable outcome based upon the conditions.

      • JMorcan

        Every trader and banker who engaged in credit default swaps should be in prison for fraud. Instead, two administrations increased taxpayer debt to gift them out of the suffering they caused everyone else. This government is now a hostile adversary to all middle class Americans.

      • Rodster

        It’s the Saul Alinsky’s, Fox Piven’s, William Ayers who encouraged the system to collapse. They did it by wanting and working to overload the system with free stuff. Congrats, mission accomplished.

        I hope I can still get me an Obama phone. 😉

    • Glench

      Dude… the main stream media has been quick to pit the tough times we’re facing as kind of a ‘class war (ie… rich versus poor)’… sort of thing… This is all B.S. and could not be further from the truth….

      Warning bells were going off back in the 80’s that businesses either would have to shut down or get out due to the power of socialistic unions simply making to many absurd demands on them…

      With high corporate tax rates, punishing regulations, socialist unions to deal with… I don’t blame these businesses one bit for moving their operations elsewhere…

      Either the government finds a way to bring these businesses back… or we’re sunk…

      • Glench, I agree with you. As much as I dislike Obama, I don’t think Romney will really follow through on his promise to crackd own on China. Both men said Monday night that trade with China was a good thing. The only thing that will bring about real change is some kind of economic crisis in America, and a lot of middle class people are going to suffer–myself included.

      • Independent

        Labor union socialism AND CEOs sending jobs overseas. Read “The Age of Greed” Demographics are the root cause: The Boomers caused inflation of the late 70’s and now the deflation of the 21st century. You can’t blame people for trying to survive. You can blame the rich and the so-called compassionate conservatives for lack of compassion. The rich pay less taxes. Corps like GE pay no taxes. The poor pay no taxes. This is the destruction of the middle class by the greedy with power. There will be no jobs until there is demand and there will be no demand until people will spend and the largest consumer group is still being taxed to death. If you do not shift the tax burden back to corps and the rich this is going to end badly. Forget your ideology and look at it only pragmatically. Otherwise we are all doomed.

        • Gay Veteran

          “The poor pay no taxes.”

          garbage, the poor pay pay lots of taxes (sales, gas, excise, phone) but no INCOME taxes because they are POOR

      • Independentone

        Did you happen to read one of the earlier reports that showed the ownership of “mainstream media”. if you would have just googled those names, you would have found out that the majority of the media is in the hands of conservatives, they control the messaging.
        and unions built the middle class. I’m not a union person, but my father was and he is republican.
        everybody loves tearing each other down, but what are the solutions? neither party has anything worthwhile to bring to the table. just one against the other. how is that working out?

        • RainyDay

          You couldn’t be more wrong. Please do a little research who runs Disney, Time-Warner and many others….their names reveal the truth and they mist definitely NOT conservatives!

          • Independentone

            are you kidding? Rupert Murdoch alone owns and controls 39% of all media in the US. 91% or daily radio talk is conservative. you name a couple of items that give progressives a 34% voice but not nearly the majority. and it’s all in the messaging.
            I’ve read Michael and several other blogs for what is going on with communities and how they are responding to the situation but rarely watch TV or listen to the radio.
            Our community here in north spokane takes care of each other, supports one another and looks out for each other. and we are a blend politically but more concerned with taking care of our families and community than winning.
            the comment made earlier I think really makes the most important point. this is being controlled by a few people and they influence laws that benefit them not us.

      • Gay Veteran

        Glench: “Warning bells were going off back in the 80′s that businesses either would have to shut down or get out due to the power of socialistic unions simply making to many absurd demands on them…”

        pure pro-corporate garbage. the middle class was strong when unions were strong, now corporations have ALL the power (and the merger of state and corporate power is called fascism)

    • grd

      Poor thing. Still living in partisan talk radio land. Most people have moved beyond that by now.

    • Paula New Zealand

      Funny ..but watching all this unfold from New Zealand, I seem to remember it ALL happened while BUSH was in power for EIGHT years….

    • Walter

      Left v. Right is not a helpful paradigm. A lot of your assumptions/first principles are based on erroneous logic.

      For example:

      1. The ‘welfare’ state is causing problems. First, the implication that poor people welfare, as opposed to rich people welfare, is a substantial problem, is a laugh. Federal welfare is almost nonexistant now. Things like Social Security and Medicare are paid for mostly by payroll taxes, i.e., by the same people that receive the benefit. So the largest “welfare” benefit is really a required self-funded pension that works out pretty well for most people.

      Rich people welfare, on the other hand, is causing the real problems.

      2. People should have jobs to support their families (which nowadays often means 2 adults in a household). We need to cut back hours and number of people working. With advancing technology not everyone can or should have a job. It’s a race to the bottom that only serves the masters at the top. Jobs have always been wage slavery and it is becoming even more so now. We should all get a minimum income without doing a job using money printed by the people (like Greenbacks or Continentals–see below). Labor unions are indeed corrupt, but we do need strong worker protections if we are going to allow wage work. It’s the only way. Allowing ‘free market’ wage slavery is simply slavery where they have tricked the slave into thinking he has a choice.

      3. The biggest incorrect assumption of all–that printing money is bad. Printing money is good. It’s the people’s money. We should get rid of the private central bank and give the power back to the people. End the Federal Reserve. End selling bonds to raise funds. End most taxes. There is no need for taxes. Why does a sovereign state have to pay third parties to create its own money?

      Taxes should only be done to limit the wealth at the top–to prevent the accumulation of wealth that leads to oppression. We should simply print money that the government spends. Like they did in the Continental Congress with Continentals and as Lincoln did with Greenbacks. This way private bankers can’t control and benefit off our money as easily.

      So you see, it’s not about left of right (although most of the solutions are probably considered ‘leftist’ to most people). In fact, the fake left v. right fight distracts us from these erroneous first principles.

    • WarriorClass III

      Both Syrin and Gary2 are correct. It is the government that caused this economy, and it is the string pullers that have manipulated it to their benefit and the detriment of everyone else. The would not have been possible without the power of Government and especially the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve allows the banksters to steal from the productive society at large, and that is wealth by theft. The banksters should not be taxed at 90%, as Gary2 has suggested in another post, but be put in prison for mass theft, robbery and murder. Along with every member of Government that has enabled them.

      And you, Glench, are wrong. High corporate taxes, punishing regulations and socialist unions exist because big business wants them to exist. Why? Because these things eliminate the competition by raising the barriers to entering the market and having real competition. There are reasons the Founding Fathers outlawed corporations unless they were for the public good. Those reasons should be obvious by now, but apparently there are people that just don’t get it. Like the Bankster Cartel, MultiNational Corporations distort the economy and buy off the government.

      If American is going to survive, it will have to get back to it’s governing principles – very limited government bound by its Constitution and kept in check by an educated (not indoctrinated), moral people.

    • There is a good historical summary of how early Americans viewed corporate charters at this link:

      “For one hundred years after the American Revolution, citizens and legislators fashioned the nation’s economy by directing the chartering process.

      The laborers, small farmers, traders, artisans, seamstresses mechanics and landed gentry who sent King George III packing feared corporations. As pamphleteer Thomas Earle wrote:

      Chartered privileges are a burthen, under which the people of Britain, and other European nations, groan in misery.

      They knew that English kings chartered the East India Company, the Hudson’s Bay Company and many American colonies in order to control property and commerce. Kings appointed governors and judges, dispatched soldiers, dictated taxes, investments, production, labor and markets. The royal charter creating Maryland, for example, required that the colony’s exports be shipped to or through England.

      Having thrown off English rule, the revolutionaries did not give governors, judges or generals the authority to charter corporations. Citizens made certain that legislators issued charters, one at a time and for a limited number of years. They kept a tight hold on corporations by spelling out rules each business had to follow, by holding business owners liable for harms or injuries, and by revoking charters.”

      “Because of widespread public opposition, early legislators granted very few charters, and only after long, hard debate. Legislators usually denied charters to would-be incorporators when communities opposed their prospective business project.

      Citizens shared the belief that granting charters was their exclusive right. Moreover, as the Supreme Court of Virginia reasoned in 1809:

      if the applicants’ object is merely private or selfish; if it is detrimental to, or not promotive of, the public good, they have no adequate claim upon the legislature for the privileges.”

      It was the Rockefellers that worked to change these laws, along with the Banksters, and returned the American people to slavery. This will not change with an election, or through any governmental process. As long as there is a large portion of the population willing to take dishonest money, this system will continue. And it appears that at least half of the people currently living in this country are willing to do just that.

      If there is any hope of survival for the USA, it will come via a spiritual awakening, and a gathering of the courageous.

    • bobnoxy

      Oh please! Turn off Fox News and read something for a change. I keep hearing that we should buy stocks because corporate profits have never been higher.

      I also see that their effective tax rates have never been lower, as in how G.E. Exxon and at least ten other major, and very profitable companies, not only paid no taxes last year, but got money back!

      This government has never been more friendly to the ”job creators”, who in the mold of hyper-Republican job slasher Jack Welch, have never done more with so few workers.

      It started with your Saint Reagan firing the air traffic controllers and busting their union. Welch got the ball rolling on outsourcing the best paying jobs to China. Tell us again how that’s all Obama’s fault.

      Wake up.

    • Randome-11

      I would agree with the statement that among the wealthy, there is a significant percentage that are job producers but you caracterise them as the job producers or top producers.

      If they are the job producers, how comes there are so little jobs, when they have never been as wealthy as they are today?

      Why did the US have so many jobs in the 50s and latter 40s, when they where taxed far more?

      They got it better today than during the saint reagan years, yet living standards for the middle-class have DECLINED since then (gov numbers excludes offical inflation levels, which in turn isn´t the real inflation).
      No waite, there isn´t much of a middle-class left now, an increased percentage of the US population have third-world living standards. It is not true to say outsourcing to China happened solely because of lower cost labour, there are tens of millions in the US that are poorer than your average Chinese worker and would immigrate to China to get jobs there, if the Chinese governement tolerated non-Chinese immigrants.

      Most of their gaines are capital gains, which are taxed far less than income, that is how Warren Buffet gets to pays twice less taxes than his secretary.
      On top of that there is enough fiscal evasion to pay for the debts of France and Italy put together.

      So trickle-down economics is still going on, even more than during the saint reagan years, is it working? Nope, at least not for the country. What is proposed? Oh right, more trickle-down economics. Trickle-down ecoonomic effectively is wealth redistribution.

      Who benefit from this enormous expansion of the US federal governement? The so-called job producers do, very much, no wonder so many of them want their fellows to pay more, they are the ones that get the greatest return investement.

      Look at the Hollywood toadies or congress, they contribute to society? Really? Conservatives and republicans defending the “top producers” are nearly as smart as atheists and wiccans defending Islam, it isn´t going to pay off the way you think!

      • Gary2

        plain and simply truth is consumers are job creators through their purchasing power. Because the rich have all the money the rest of us have little to no disposable income to generate the demand.

        Demand, not tax cuts for the rich are what drives economic growth as you said in your post.

        • Kevin2


          The point is moot if purchasing power fuels manufacturing employment outside of the US.

          Clipping “The Rich” will just keep the unsustainable system afloat longer but in the end is no long term solution in itself.

    • Kevin2


      The wealth redistribution that is killing us is taking US wealth and transferring it to the world through globalist policies. It’s communism at an international level as opposed to the more classic domestic type.

      The above either outright facilitated or is a catalyst in the unhealthy concentration of wealth that is a root cause of so many domestic problems.

    • Matt R

      Great comment Syrin. I’m reading “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” at the moment and it’s eerily similar to what I see happening today. The media is a pulpit for the far left (propaganda here we come), it’s difficult to trust the figures coming out of the gov’t (see latest jobs report), and the world is swooning that one man can solve all the issues of the day (see crying ppl when Barak Obama was first elected). Please note that I do not compare Obama to Hitler – I just see that the state of affairs in the US that we are trending toward -more gov’t control and regulation- equals less freedom. The political candidate that says he is going to reduce the size, scope, and control of gov’t will get my vote every time… history proves that to do otherwise leads to slavery.

      • Gay Veteran

        “The media is a pulpit for the far left”

        garbage, most of the media is owned by a few corporations (like that well known “liberal” company General Electric)

    • DC

      This economy was the greatest in the 50’s right after WW2 when everyone had jobs, and the ultra wealthy were paying very high Federal Income Tax rates. The middle class aka the working people of the country made decent wages and could get that American Dream (home, white picket fence, etc.) Ever since we had DE-regulation of the corporate world and the lowering of tax rates in this country we have been on nothing but a downward slide…. The more and more deregulation that occurs the worse things get. Tighten back up the financial industry, close the trade gaps back up and raise the tax rates to even half of what they were before the 1980’s and I bet the economy goes back to what it used to be.

      Greed is the only reason for our problems right now, I mean look at the made up crap Wall Street was doing, half of them didn’t even know where or how it actually worked they just knew they were making billions. Don’t forget the trade agreements, which are utter horse crap. All those did was open up the profit margin for large corporations to make even more by shipping those jobs overseas to lower paying countries so they could line the investors pockets even more…..

      • Malcolm Reynolds

        “The more and more deregulation that occurs the worse things get.”

        Which deregulation is that? What’s deregulated? Deregulation is liberal fantasy. The problem is the more and more this country becomes c.e.n.t.r.a.l.l.y p.l.a.n.n.e.d, the more problems and bubbles we experience in every part of it.

        If tax cuts are the problem, why doesn’t the data indicate that?

        • Gay Veteran

          “Which deregulation is that?”

          financial deregulation, advocated by BOTH parties serving their corporate masters and Wall Street banksters

    • 007

      This is Obama economic justice. Love it or vote him and the socialist democrats out.

    • Rusty

      Nazi Germany? Economically, NG was light-years ahead of the rest of Europe and the US. NG was the first nation to get out of the depression, almost 10 years before the US did.

      Keep the propaganda to a minimum, if you can.

    • Gay Veteran

      your “job producers” are producing jobs in China, India, Vietnam, etc. because they are the ones who advocated for “free trade”.

      They don’t give a d*mn about Americans.

  • michelle

    how very sad, that our country has been reduced to these statistics, with a human attached to each one.

    • Glench

      You dudes ever notice how ‘guarded’ people are these days… even while driving, just signalling to get into the next lane often causes the other dude to ‘speed up’ so as not to let you in front of him… (and I’m a dude who always drives over 5 clicks the speed limit)…

      I grew up in a city that has always been ‘boom or bust’ always faced with strangers coming in… and always being polite to them… It’s understandable why people might have to migrant to more prosperous areas… but can’t say I’m much impressed with the these migrant kind of characters…

      Anyway you look at it… if a man’s work is worth anything… he’ll be in demand where he’s based at irregardless of the state of the regions local economy…

      It appears people become miserable when they have to resort taking to the road to find work elsewhere….

      • Paul

        Feel free to speed. I let you in front of me anytime. When I feel stressed on the motorway, I go in the left lane in line with the lorries and set the tempomat to their speed.

        You can be “there” 20 minutes before me, but I have still more fuel in the tank. 🙂

  • Jimi Dollar

    I’ve been a regular visitor to this website for some time now, but this is the first time I’ve left a comment. First, let me say that you are doing a great service to people with these posts. Second, I live in South Texas which hasn’t been hit as hard by the recession as some other areas. That’s mostly thanks to all the energy jobs in the area. This is the place to be if you are looking for a real job.

    However, no one is immune from financial difficulty and I’ve seen the damage first hand. We need to put the brakes on government spending and fast!

    Keep up the good work, sir.

    • Michael


      Thank you very much for the kind words. 🙂


  • markthetruth

    38. Although Millions and Millions of Americans are Waiting on line for days(camping out,parting on line) no jobs, but have buy a iphone or ipad to survive not food,water,or shelter.

    39. Media “Brainwashing” our society into a system of no morals at all. The Media is the problem and is taking us down as they are listing to the Devil.

    the end.

  • MeMadMax

    I know exactly how this article describes the statistics.

    I remember one time I used to be able to walk into ANY business and walk out an employee the next day.

    I remember when buying gas was an inconvenience once a month because I could fill the tank and not care, now it’s 3 or more times a week because I only put in 5 bucks, and I dread each time I gas up…

    I now find myself staring at the gas gauge more than the road now…

    I remember when I could walk into any used car dealership and buy a car for $500 and drive that car into the ground(over a year or so) and go out and get a new used car. Now I pray that my car never breaks down.

    I remember when I could go into any grocery store and buy a whole grocery cart worth of food for $80. Now it only buys 5-6 bags worth especially if I need to buy meat.

    I remember when I could buy stereos, dvd’s, cd’s, nick nacks, parts, toys, etc etc almost on the whim, now I pray that something doesn’t break because I can’t replace it…

    • MeMadMax

      I agree on the rise in grocery prices. I am an avid “juicer”, call it a healthy lifestyle or whatever. Today I went into the grocery store and bought kale, cucumbers, carrots, apples, pineapple, spinach and 1 pack of protein shake (4 total) and the tab was $54. FIFTY FOUR dollars!



    • mark

      I understnd, as I have walked in similar shoes at one time. We have been living the temporary dream that cheap imports brought to our economy. But the bill must be paid at some point. The jobs started to leave but it did not hurt until it affected so many. The Fed could print until the world noticed and the inflation started again with food and power. Government regulations were too small to worry about at first then they swoop in and cost you before you know it. They drove up energy costs and made it so hard to open a business here that companies left for greener pastures. Sorry but it always works out that way. Tax the rich Gary always shouts, well many of the rich take their game where they can still play. Look at France with their 75% tax on the rich, some are leaving inorder to avoid the tax. Compared to other countries we still have it good in a way. It is sad to hear that some will have to work until 80 years old. They still recieve social security, medicare and food stamps. Where my wife’s family lives in South America, they have no social security, medicare or food stamps. You can’t get a job after your 40 years old. Think about that for a minute and how many years of very hard times that would add up too. As hard as it is and things will get worse until we reduce our debts, we still are better off than 90% of the rest of the world. We need to freeze all government programs across the board starting in January with a new government. No more cost of living increases. The same goes for wages and pensions of government workers. At least we would start to stop some of the bleeding. Then Romney can start to make some cuts with congress and remove some regulations. Even though I would like huge cuts right away as the country did in 1921, the govenment has become such a huge part of the economy that we need to be careful so that we do not cause a depression. This might happen anyhow, but we need to try and walk with a light step. We can reign in costs if we are willing to try, otherwise we will fall off a cliff that will be worse than 1929. Believe me, we do not want to go there. Prepare for the worst, but hope for the best.

  • VegasBob

    Michael, as I look at the statistics you’ve compiled, I cannot believe this is the country where I was born and raised.

    Today I read that President Obama now says this election is about “trust.”

    I enthusiastically voted for Barack Obama in 2008. I actually believed that he would bring positive change to this country. While it is true that Obama has thrown a few scraps to those of us who consider ourselves progressives, most of what we have gotten over the last 4 years is George W Bush’s third term.

    The simple fact is that I do not trust Barack Obama any more. The “hope and change” mantra from 2008 was a complete lie. Obama has spent the last 4 years ignoring the plight of average Americans while he cozies up to Wall Street banking criminals, plays golf and takes expensive vacations. Therefore I cannot and will not vote to re-elect Barack Obama.

    I believe that 4 more years of Barack Obama would prove to be an economic disaster for millions more Americans. I do not believe for a moment that things will get any better under Mitt Romney, but it is hard for me to see how things in this country could possibly get worse under a President Romney compared to what we are enduring under Barack Obama.

    • Shogun_01

      Romney will do what Obama will do, but two times worse

      • Malcolm Reynolds

        your evidence of that?

        In reality, Obama was never up to the job. He’s been neck deep since day one. The guy is a community organizer, not an executive. No Romney isn’t a panacea, and he isn’t going to “fix it all”, but he’s an executive, knows what to do to make business work and isn’t a stark raving anti-American marxist.

        If you want to fix it, look to yourself. And I dont mean look to what you dont have, compared to what your neighbor has.

        • Gay Veteran

          “he’s an executive, knows what to do to make business work”

          in China

          folks, time to face reality, your choice is between Barack “Goldman Sachs” Obama and Mitt “Wall Street” Romney

          in other words, you have the illusion of choice, which is how the elites keep us from rebelling

    • PeteH

      “but it is hard for me to see how things in this country could possibly get worse under a President Romney compared to what we are enduring under Barack Obama.”

      Let me guess, you’re a male, so you wouldn’t be concerned about trans-vaginal ultrasounds, lack of birth control, being raped and being told its “not legitimate rape” so it doesn’t count, etc.

      • Malcolm Reynolds

        Nah, but he’s pretty concerned why Obama pays the women in his White House 18% les than the males tho.

  • Mondobeyondo

    First off, let me exprss my eternal gratitude to my neighbor for allowing me to charge the laptop which I am typing on now, otherwise, you would not be reading this message.

    1 hour 4 minutes left on my battery… (electricity to be restored hopefully by Thursday or Friday. Please, do NOT comment on the state of my refrigerator or icebox.)

    I don’t have much battery power (or electricity for that matter) so I will keep it short. Hopefully by Friday things will be well and good.

    #18: {expletive)!! Why do you think I’m typing this using a (expletive) flashlight after asking my next door neighbor to charge my laptop because I couldn’t pay my electric bill?

    If I were a beaver, I would say “dam it! dam it!!”

    1 hour annd 23 minutes left on my battery.
    I will be back.

    • Michael


      I sent you an email earlier today. Are you able to check that Yahoo email or should I try to contact you another way?



      If I were a beaver, I would say IM GETTING THE HELL OUT OF THIS CITY!GOODBYE PHOENIX!!

    • DownWithLibs

      Read Michaels first paragraph and was hoping it wasn’t you he was talking about. I sure hope you can get on your feet soon. You are in my thoughts and prayers.

    • Alasha

      i can’t help but laugh… seriously though, Mondobeyondo, please email me – Michael can you give my email address to Mondobeyondo if he asks since you know it is him and you can see my. Please let -me see if there is anything I can do although I am things r tight for me 2 -pleas tell me u went to Public Assistance and exhausted all other means – sometimes the Electricity company will accept a payment plan…

      Really – all theeconomicollapseblog readers – i really think we need to get on the ball and figure out SOME way we can help one other – we really should try to pool together some ideas to act on CUZ things r just going to get WORSE!

  • Mondobeyondo

    Thank you, Bob. I couldn’t do this without you. How much longer I can do this – well….

  • tez

    I fear for my country. And People are now threatning to kill Mitt Romney if he is elected….******!!! What is happening to us???? I love America and it’s breaking my heart to see it being torn apart like this. May God be with all you and may God protect and bless the United States of America.

  • BC

    Hey Mick,

    Thanks again for your great articles. Even though I live in Australia I can see the rot setting in here. Idiotic government, entitlement mentality from the general populace and an economy that is wholly centred around mining and China. This is all about to come to a screaming halt when China stops buying our resources because we don’t have a manufacturing base anymore. I remember as a kid we made our own washing machines, lawn mowers, kitchen appliances, you name it. It’s all gone now to overseas “free trade” countries who pay their workers slave wages. How do you compete with that? Free trade? NWO degradation I call it. Anyway, I’m stacking silver as fast as I can. Not be be wealthy but to help my family and others who will eventually need it. I live on a large acreage property not far from a major city. We have stables and other facilities and I said to my wife the other day that I can see homeless friends (and probably strangers) living in our stables and sheds when this whole thing comes crashing down. I am trying to tell coworkers, facebook friends, and anyone who will listen about the coming Armageddon but mostly to no avail. Some have listened and started to prepare but generally you get laughed at. Anyway, I suppose the situation is the same all over but I keep flicking your articles to my email list and hope people take notice. Thankfully my wife and kids are totally awake now. Keep up the good work, God Bless and keep your head down when this thing explodes because we are in unchartered waters economically, socially and morally. Cheers

    • the ragged trousered philanthropist

      Good man BC.
      I live in the other side of the world to you, (the UK) but my experiences are the same as yours (although I do not have much land).
      I suggest you read an article by Doug Casey “The Ascendence Of Sociopaths In US Governance”. It will strengthen your resolve, it certainly did mine.

    • JMorcan

      I’ve visited China frequently since the mid-’90s, and I couldn’t agree more with your assessment. “Free trade” with the massive (and massively poor) populations of China SE Asia has destroyed Western economies. Americans in particular had better become accustomed to being poor.

  • Courtney

    Michael. This is one of the MOST depressing websites I visit. Actually, more than visit, I have made it my home page. It’s depressing, because our country and the economy it has developed is actually just that depressing. By maintaining your site as my home page, it forces me to…every day…be ever so mindful! I am grateful for the input that provides a true balance to the fascade that the media presents. Keep on ‘keeping on’ dude!

    • Michael


      Thank you for the things that you said. I like to think of this site as a “reality check” rather than as a downer. We aren’t going to do ourselves any favors by putting our heads in the sand and pretending that everything is okay.

      I believe that there is hope in being informed and getting prepared. Yes, a horrible storm is coming, but if we understand what is happening and take appropriate action we will have a much better chance of making it through.


      • Michael,

        I will comment that your website is less of a “downer” and more of a reality check. I fully agree we need to be aware of what is staring us in the face and look for ways to survive or crawl out of this hole we are in. There is always hope and as bad as we think things are, people before us have gone through similar or worse. Bubonic plague anyone?

        Thanks for the work you put in Michael.


        • liberranter

          I will comment that your website is less of a “downer” and more of a reality check.

          Indeed. The sad thing is that the sheeple majority expends most of its scarce mental energy avoiding reality (hence the obsession with TV and other distractions). Bring up topics such as those Michael blogs about on a regular basis and try to get people to pay attention and you’ll get responses such as “you’re SO NEGATIVE!”, “I don’t even bother with that conspiracy theorist/right-wing nut job/[insert other straw man here] nonsense!”, or “shut up, I don’t want to hear it!”

          It’s especially painful when it comes from people you otherwise love and care about.

      • Bharat

        Congratulations for telling the truth as it is. The whole Western media is a joke and will never tell the truth as they believe its better to live in fantasy.

        The day the collapse happens,the mainstream media will have no option but to report it and the
        illusion of prosperity will be destroyed once and for all

        • liberranter

          The whole Western media is a joke and will never tell the truth as they believe its better to live in fantasy.

          And because, as I said in a previous post, the sheeple majority PREFER a life of fantasy, the lamestream media still have plenty of customers. Thinking people who recognize their output for the intelligence-insulting BS that it is are a tiny minority.*

          (*Of course you’ll hear both the dedicated Left and the hard-core Right whine about the media being “biased,” but each side ADORES its own outlets that are biased in its ideological favor [e.g., liberal socialists love left-wing CNN while right-wing conservative fascists love FoxNews].)

          • Gay Veteran

            “liberal socialists love left-wing CNN while right-wing conservative fascists love FoxNews”

            it is ALL corporate media

      • RainyDay

        I completely agree, Michael, but we also need to lean on God during these hard times. He made sure the ravens were fed the bible says. Things will be tough, very tough but his believers will not go hungry.

        • Michael

          Very good point.


  • Gary2

    Tax the rich and spread the wealth. Unless we address the huge gap in wealth and income between the top 5% and the bottom 95% nothing will change. We need to spread the wealth even to the point of simply taking the rich’s money and redistributing it.

    A poor person needs the money WAY more than a rich ***********.

    • Gary, while that might sound enticing I have a few links I’d like you to look at. The second one (Tony Robbins) really breaks down how much of a hole we are in, and why simply “taxing the rich” or even confiscating all of the wealth of the semi-rich and above won’t even come close to something that resembles a solution.


    • Joe

      Gary….you poor, poor, brainwashed soul. If I were a religious man, I’d pray for you.

    • OLdFART

      I love how ********* like Gary2 spout this nonsense, but a backhoe couldn’t drag him to any of the ********** socialist countries where such a system already exists.

    • phelps

      Be careful what you wish for as you just might get it. There is a great line in a movie and I wish more Americans would adopt this thought. “We’ll not be backing down from you anymore”.

      We’ve allowed many of you spoiled children to whine and live off of us for far too long. But you begin to “simply take” our property, which I take that to mean you’ll kick our ass, then you will get the fight that you have been longing for. Are you prepared for this?

      You whiny liberals know nothing about the 99% to 73% in this country. They are kind, good hearted people, but very tough when the time calls for it. When you come after us it will not be our money, or property that we fight to protect, but the people inside that property. We will not leave them to your mercy. Take that anyway you want it. Just be careful is all and limit your temper tantrum to the college campus, or other places that will put up with you because we will not.

      Good day.

    • DownWithLibs


    • davidmpark

      I’d like to try an experiment.

      Let’s just tax the Leftists calling for socialism and all other forms of oppression. They are calling for it – it’s up to them to prove it works.

      Now, as part of this experiment, all confiscatory laws and policies, and most tax and redistribute laws must be repealed and can only be reinstated local and nationwide when irrefutable proof is presented that it’s better than capitalism and liberty.

      I know many will say that it’s been done in Russia, Germany and so on: I’m calling for an actual scientific study and lab confined experiment to have solid proof – not history or academic dream flowers.

      Here’s the thing though: it has to be confined to a geographical location and be completely cut off from outside influence or assistance – this is a scientific experiment; no outside influences. Second, it must only have volunteers – no one can be forced into it. Third, all activity must be broadcasted to all; no editing or delays.

      Do this Gary2, and prove you’re right. Rhetoric and pipe dreams are not accepted as fact.

      • liberranter

        Folks, is there some reason you continue to feed the troll? It is obvious that it is impervious to reason, so why waste time and intellectual energy responding to its verbal diarrhea (what was it Confucius supposedly said, something to the effect of “the only person who attempts to reason with a fool is an even bigger fool?”).

        I can only assume that the people who claim to be annoyed by the troll and want it to go away for good express that sentiment purely for entertainment purposes. The volume and frequency of their pointless responses to it suggests that its disappearance would create an inexplicable void on the site.

        • Gary2

          I provide a counter balance to Michaels rabid right wing nuttiness.

        • davidmpark

          Yeah, you’re right liberranter – good point. Let ’em go off. Got better things to do with my life than justify a maladjusted psychopathic Leftist with attention issues.

    • Paul

      Phrase it differently.

      Tax capital income just the same as any other income.

      Find a way for corporations to profit from paying higher wages.

      After all, its the wages that create demand on the market.

  • TimeHasCome

    We could have 20 million homeless people and the Liberal press will NEVER report it . This depression will never be televised . I remember the endless reporting of homelessness under Reagan and Bush the elder . Then poof! As soon a Billy Bob got elected the homeless disappeared. This time around the presstitutes are every bit as guilty s Tokyo Rose.

    • Ian

      What liberal press? Where is this magical fairytale land you speak of where liberal values are upheld?

      Everytime in turn on the television iam bombarded by right wing conservative garbage and pro corporate agendas.

      People dont even know what liberalism is anymore.

      • liberranter

        Everytime in turn on the television iam bombarded by right wing conservative garbage and pro corporate agendas.

        Your TV must be frozen on the FauxNews channel. Try CNN and MSNBC for a sampling of garbage from the other side (which, you’ll probably notice, tastes and smells pretty much exactly like the garbage FauxNews tosses out).

  • Shelby

    I will be 78 years old in December and am still working full time. Including my house, business and IRA I had a net worth of around $400,000 in 2008. The reason I am still working is my net worth now is about $100,000. How long can you live today on that amount today. When you get my age medical cost is hard to believe. Even with medicare our medical expense is over $10,000 per year.

    • liberranter

      Hang in there, Shelby. Unfortunately, what you’re going through now is what the future for ALL of us middle-period Baby Boomers and younger will be.

    • Paul

      Isn’t medical insurance so bad for you? Just wait until Mitt rules, then you don’t have to pay insurance anymore.

  • Katherine

    As the previous poster stated, I, too, have been an eager and daily reader of your site. And, as has already been said, thank you very much for your excellent site and the well-chosen articles thereon.

    I know that the number of people who are suffering is increasing at an alarming rate and I, too, have to work at 2 low-paying part-time jobs in order to make my way. As the person in the article who had lost his electricity stated, however, if you are not prepared (and I would add, not anticipating such a state of affairs), you are indeed in BIG trouble.

    I cannot get over how many people I speak with who still believe that they are not susceptible to what I view as the inevitable collapse of the fiat US dollar and that what has been outlined in this article cannot happen to them. So sad because life is an impartial teacher, I have found.

  • Been There, Done That

    Yes, I’ve been there and I’m still there. I lost my job in 2009, mind you, I never made a lot of money, I worked for a non-profit. My husband also lost his job. We moved back to Canada (I’m a dual citizen) although I spent most of my life in the USA, so I feel like a stranger up here. What’s worse is I have not found work since coming up here, but I’ve been told I’m “overqualified.” Husband barely got a new job but it’s not set in stone. After you experience something like this, you never forget it and it does stay with you. By the way, every single member of my immediate family, including my mother, her husband, my sister and her boyfriend, also lost their jobs in the USA. Now they work for less wages and my mother had to quit her job and go on SS because they cut her hours to 3.9 a week. Anyone who tells me this is not a depression is full of it. Just look at what happened to us, six family members losing their jobs at the same time — how can anyone tell me this is just a “recession?” with a straight face? The only family members who seem to be doing okay for now are those with government jobs, but I’ve heard those are going to be in danger soon as well. But even those “better off” relatives of mine have had their houses devalued as well, and our neighbours who made six figures already back in California have gone through their 401Ks and savings after losing their jobs as well. Nothing is sacred. We’re in for a very bumpy ride and I believe it has only JUST BEGUN.

    • Maggie

      There is a lot of opportunity in the long term food storage business in Canada. The company my sister works for just recently opened their doors to being able to sell there. Check it out

    • Alasha

      Been There, Done That – u r n my prayers. Godspeed

  • Katherine

    Correction to my post . . . it ought to read “well-written” articles because they most assuredly are that. Thank you, again. K

  • Tina

    I too, have read your post for a long time and have never posted.

    This above article however, moved me to tears (and that’s tough to do to me)

    Thanks for all you do.

    • Michael


      Hopefully none of our hearts will ever grow so cold that we cannot empathize with our brothers and sisters that are going through so much pain.


      • the ragged trousered philanthropist

        Empathy – Understanding so intimate that the feelings, thoughts, and motives of one are readily comprehended by another.

        It seems a pre-requisite of all politicians to lack this.

        P.S. – Michael, I’ll be astounded if this current article does not elicit a record number of posts

        • Michael

          I would like to see this article get a great discussion going. Everyone please share it with as many people as you can.


          • the ragged trousered philanthropist

            You can take horses to water, but you can’t make them drink.

            God bless you for providing the water.

            I’ll keep drinking and getting as many sceptics as possible to at least THINK about what’s happening.

            Unfortunately too many of my colleagues are drugged on TPTB’s soma.

            In my small way I try to emulate you. – Keep up the good work. Without the likes of you soma would dope us all.

  • tappedops

    And to think these ARE the good-ol-days… injoy them, one day at a time, cause its about to hit the vortex…

  • Hello again Michael & fellow readers:

    “Mondobeyondo” in Arizona stated he was having economic problems in a comment for your previous post. Please have him contact me directly at the email below as I live in Phoenix.

    Over the past 3 years, my family and I have had some economic difficulties but not as severe as many other people. My erratic part-time enterprise consulting work is tolerable only because my spouse works full-time for a large federal contractor. With our 13-yr-old son, we keep all our expenses equal to her NET $2000/month income(after taxes, healthcare & 401K deductions). We fortuately have NO auto, credit card, student loan, mortgage or other debts. We have lived within our means for the past decade. (But many people have higher bills, more kids, poor health or no jobs. Therefore we can’t serve as a model for others.) My sporadic income is used for keeping up our meager savings, handling emergency expenses, and ocassionally taking a small vacation for our sanity. We will eventually have to replace our paid-for 8-yr-old car.

    The reality of life in the U.S. is far from what our politicians, business leaders, and members of academia can fathom. Michael’s objective facts and figures and those from other good Internet sites indicate that our leaders continue to fabricate information to protect themselves and continue the corrupt and bankrupt status quo. It will take time for a majority of Americans to realize there are no fundamental differences between the 2 political parties. The winner of this coming election will be our nation’s obscenely greedy and corrupt oligarchy/plutocracy/kleptocracy that has Have) obtained financial and intellectual control over our politicians and political/economic system.

    For all people who read this blog, please feel free to contact me personally as I need to use my extensive legal and business background to help others. I’ll listen and try to give some pertinent advice if you request, but I cannot promise I will be able to accomplish specific goals. I don’t charge for such assistance as I have to give back to society even though I’m going thru some challenging times over the past few years.

    Best wishes, Marc Pascal, J.D./M.B.A., from Phoenix, AZ (I’m over 50 now but I lived most of my life before 2006 in Ohio and Illinois.) Email:

    Please feel free to also read this site ( to find my blogs.

    • Alasha

      God Bless – Marc – you and I was thinking along the same lines too!!

  • Hello! I just wanted to let you know that I linked to your blog and mentioned it on my radio show today. The link is here It is the latest episode where I discuss what Homeschoolers and Homemakers can learn from Preppers.

    Thanks for all you do,
    The Homeschool Homemaker

  • maby

    I have been regular visitor too ,and I have to say you are excellent person, am in miami dade am not seen this
    terrible situation in my area , but am aware about the situation in other places thanks to you specially is sad what had happened to detroit I get impress with the pictures and videos about that city is that what is suppose to be the rest of the country if no measures are taken?

  • phelps

    I really never thought things were this bad. Just this past week I’ve been seeing several homeless people in an area where you usually don’t see them. On Thursday, I will go to the a soup kitchen ran by a Catholic charity. I’ve got to see who all is there. We have much meth use in this part of the country, but the homeless I’ve seen are not meth users. I can just tell.

    Folks, it may be time we found the solution and quit waiting for the State to do it.

    Residential property shouldn’t be taxed, gov salaries have to be cut, gov agencies have to be as well and jubilee is in order here to help those get out of debt.

    We have a gov run amok. Federal and State employees are fairing pretty well in this economy, but they are giving us no breaks when it comes to taxes and regulatory fees.

    How much more can we take? I don’t mean violence, but we need to demonstrate and make demands. If we go to the streets for peaceful protest, Ron Paul will lead us, if we even need a leader. It is time we pushed back against the State and quit waiting for a Dem or Repub to save us.

    Lets save ourselves and ask God for His support. If we take the first step, He will help us.

    Good day.

    • Martman

      Your Goverments FEMA has a nice little camp for those of you who want to demonstrate.

      • phelps

        Fema is incompetent. They’ll never be able to round us all up. And, if they do, then hopefully everyone wakes-up and fights back.

        It only took a few murders by British troops to spark a revolution, which is just one of many examples of abuse by the State that eventually led to their demise.

        “Is life so dear and peace so sweet….”

        Good day.

        • liberranter

          Let’s hope you’re right, Phelps. Either way, we’re gonna find out very soon.

    • Harsh Reality

      Federal and State employees are fairing pretty well in this economy, but they are giving us no breaks when it comes to taxes and regulatory fees.

      –Wondering how long this will continue though, if revenue is supposedly at an all time low. I also read a recent article that stated three million Americans leave the USA every year. Most of these people I presume are well-educated or wealthier types. I hear California has has a literal exodus of business owners leaving.

      • phelps

        Revenues are at an all time high. I may be wrong, but FedGov revenues alone are $3.1 trillion. Over spending is the problem. If our FedGov gets in too much trouble they will simply take valuable resources from other countries. The Afgan and Iraq wars were all about getting oil and natural gas for the EU so they wouldn’t be so dependent upon Russia for their energy needs.

        China will have to keep loaning us money (essentially giving to U.S), or their economy tanks faster than ours. China has no oil and very little energy resources of their own to fuel their industrialized economy. The U.S. has oil, tons of natural gas and nuclear power and the know how to industrialize rapidly.

        The Chinese are nothing without U.S. and so is most of the rest of world.

        Good day.

        • Paul

          You better start some reading.

          China has about 30 nuclear reactors and about 30 under construction.
          China is building large wind farms in the inner Mongolian steppes.
          Chinas energy still comes from coal.
          China is buying oil from Iran.

  • phelps

    I gotta say one more thing and I don’t even know if I’m up to the task.

    United we stand and divided we fall and I’m tired and forget who said that, but it is true.

    Those of us with money should help our struggling brothers and sisters by going on strike.

    Lets stop paying our electric bills, our auto insurance, credit card bills and anything else that we can think of to hurt the system, but we all gotta do it. Use the extra $ to begin our own charities and just simply take over abandoned property to house our homeless. We can take the copper and scrap metal from these properties, which are not being used and many are useless to get the $ to get started.

    I’m sick and tired of the State and its petty mean employees. We can take all our kids out of their schools, which have become nothing more than low-security prisons anyway.

    Thats all I got.

    Good day.

    • Kathy Smith

      I would love to see just 1 week of NO ONE paying there illegal income tax & 1 day of NO ONE buying gasoline. That would get THE PTB attention. But like you said Phelps we need everybody!!!

      • liberranter

        That would get THE PTB attention. But like you said Phelps we need everybody!!!

        That’s the problem. Everybody would be busy saying “Uh, okay… but YOU GO FIRST.”

    • Randome-11

      When the big one occures, governement/police forces likely won´t just resorte to looting anything they can put their hands on but would indeed become the most numerous and best armed looters there are.

      They´ll give nice guns and uniforms to gang members and the vaste stock of hardened criminals currently in prison, in exchange for things.

      Just like after Katrina, they´ll take all the things that they “need”, all the brand cloths, Louise Mutton parfums, basketball and PS3 games they can find.

      • phelps

        I know that biker gangs hate people who abuse children. The Outlaws, Hells Angels, El Diablos, etc. all show-up when we have fundraisers for Guardian ad Litum and CASA. They sport their B.A.C.A., Bikers Against Child Abuse, patches as opposed to their usual 1% patches. I talk to many of them and I’ll just bet they’ll be on our side when the SHTF. Many of the aforementioned biker gangs have folks in prison and they hate all the other inmates.

        So we’ll see which gangs prevail in this contest, if it ever comes down to it.

        Good day.

    • WM

      Phelps: Good suggestion as to a bunch of people getting together with a purpose and changing things, like 100 million people stopping paying their taxes until taxes are reduced….. The problem I see is that most American sheeple are too distracted by entertainment, materialism, even so consumed just trying to survive, that they give no thought of how our freedoms are being taken away little by little, and no thought or courage to organize and conduct some real protests against the system for change. The problem I see, is too many people are afraid of ‘what would happen” to take that step and draw the line in the sand as it were. I think major shaking could happen and major change, IF, and only IF, Americans could get more united and agree what to do and actually DO IT.

      Sadly, I think this nation is just too divided and diverse today for that to happen.

      • phelps

        Thanks WM. Your last line is too true. I guess I’ll just concentrate on my little corner of the world and hope things work out for the best.

    • Alasha

      my 2cents – phelps: Those of us with money should help our struggling brothers and sisters by going on strike. Lets stop paying our electric bills, our auto insurance, credit card bills and anything else that we can think of to hurt the system, but we all gotta do it. Use the extra $ to begin our own charities and just simply take over abandoned property to house our homeless. We can take the copper and scrap metal from these properties, which are not being used and many are useless to get the $ to get started

      mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm any feedback on this? i do agree we need 2 something…. somehow i thk this may be a bit extreme…….. come on theecnomiccollaspseblog readers i know i am at a BLANK!!!!!!!!!

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  • Mordecai

    Mordecai says:

    My daughter worked for an oil field water service and diesel repair company. She was laid off from her office manager job in June. Fortunately, they let her know it was coming and while she still had insurance she got all of her medical, vision, and dental needs taken care of. She went to working 3 part time jobs as a waitress and a cleaning lady. (She has a college degree) Last week she was contacted out of the blue by another oil field service company and will interview for a job this week. You better believe mom and I are praying for her to get the job. Last Friday her sister lost her job. She too has a college degree. She started hustling and looking for work on Saturday. Her first interview was this afternoon. Waiting to hear what happened. (She just called to report she has been asked to come back on Thursday for a second interview!!) She spent the rest of the day delivering seven resumes in response to job openings. Mom and I are thinking about coming out of retirement and just stashing the cash we earn in case the girls keep going through this.

    I started volunteering at a local food bank two weeks ago. The state allows us to keep food on the shelves for two years past the expiration date. It isn’t staying on the shelves long enough to expire. About all I can offer folks is a bag of groceries and a smile. I am VERY impressed with the generosity of others and how much stuff they donate to the food bank. They even donate the small bars of soap and bottles of shampoo from hotels for these needy folks. That makes me smile. Only in America.


    Im a 30 year old male living back at home with my mom, stepdad and 7 year old son. I had to give up custody of my son to them after being a single dad and things fell apart a few years ago. Needless to say its been an endless struggle ever since bouncing from place to place trying to find a steady job of any kind. Ive had needlessly long stretches of unemployment since employers have become so finicky with hiring, and if i so happened to find work i was never kept on for long as they would always find something wrong to nitpick about me, during the past couple years ive been from seattle to san diego and back trying to get stable. When i got back i was living with my now ex fiance whom im still madly in love with. The people that do have jobs are still incredibly in denial about how bad things have gotten. During my stay with my ex i attended a vocatinal coarse that got me nowhere and continued to look for work to no avail, my ex being willfully ignorant finally got fed up and jilted me, crushing my heart

    • liberranter

      Hang in there, Luke. I’m glad to see that at least you have some family to fall back on. That makes all the difference in the world.

      If you haven’t done so already, you might want to sit down and think of some ideas that you can put into motion for a “sideline” business. It might not be anything that will enable you to fully support yourself (at least not at first), but it can help you gain contacts out in the community that can lead to bigger and better opportunities, as well as bring in some much-needed cash. Just a thought. I’ve got one going and it’s been a great experience.

      Sorry to hear about the situation with your ex-fiancee. A lot of us out there feel your pain (or at least understand). Let me apologize in advance if this comes across as out of line, but allow me to just say this: If she was being “willfully ignorant” and, worse yet, got “fed up” and then just left when things got tough, you are MUCH better off without her in your life! In fact, you’re probably fortunate to have seen this side of her before you actually married her. You’ve saved yourself from a whole lot of pain and suffering later on in life. That said, maybe she’ll learn from life and change.

      Again, hang in there and good luck to you!

    • Alasha

      Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww – sigh……..LUKE THE KOOK… saying a prayer 4 u..

  • Ray

    Michael, is the Bank of North Dakota the type of banking system that you envision for the U.S.?

    • Michael

      I think it would be an improvement over what we have now, but I wouldn’t say it is ideal.


  • Jpritch

    Stop blaming the rich. If you add up all the rich peoples’ value it still wouldn’t come close to debt we are in. You forget that the rich are mostly millionaires, with a small percetn being billionaires. That is pennies compared to the 16 trillion dollar debt problem. Shut up about the rich. They could give all their money away and it won’t even put a dent in our problem. We need to be creative and innovative. We need new products that will create a big demand around the world. Getting oil is still cheaper than green energy. As long as Suadi Arabia can produce oil cheaper than any other country or any other energy form, than energy itself is not our future. It is hard to imagine what could create such a demand, but it comes from creaitivty and innovation. Also, we need to stop having kids that we can’t afford! Stop buying houses we can’t afford! Stop living on credit period!!!

    • Paul

      16 trillion = 300 x Bill Gates’ wealth

  • marissa

    Want to know what is killing America? In one word GREED!

    • liberranter

      Well, yes, that’s one factor. Add “laziness,” “immorality,” “ignorance,” and “hedonism,” and the picture will be more complete.

  • Mike I agree with your article, but they say the restaurants are full on the weekends. Most Starbucks are full, and their drinks are expensive. Any idea why that is? Who are these people that can afford to eat out all the time?

    • Michael

      Corporate profits have been hovering around all-time highs and in the wealthier areas the restaurants are most definitely full.

      It is a tale of two Americas right now.


      • dvk

        I noticed this past summer in my family’s suburban Midwest area – new cars, everyone eating out all the time and can only assume – that is where the debt is and the idea it’s all paid for with real wealth is illusatory.

      • liberranter

        Also, many of the people who eat out regularly CHARGE IT TO THEIR ALREADY ALMOST MAXED-OUT CREDIT CARDS.

        I tell people constantly: if you were to “look under the hood” at the people you see in public (or at work) who appear to be “rolling in dough,” you will probably find that they are in so much debt that they will NEVER get out of it. If you’re “poor” by comparison, but live a frugal and simple life without excessive debt, you are, whether or not you know it, a MUCH happier person than any of these ueber-wealthy (at least on paper) types who are just one bear market swing away from bankruptcy and the street.

    • Tim


      I have observed the same thing here in the upstate of South Carolina. The retail stores and restaurants are very busy. I live in one of the most affluent counties in SC, which partly explains what I see. Some very large corporations are located here, like General Electric, Fluor, Michelin, to name a few. But this state has one of the highest unemployment rates in the nation. I would imagine that many SC residents are using food stamps to buy food, but I can’t explain why the restaurants and other retail stores are so busy. And pretty soon the retail stores will be mobbed as people start shopping for X-Mas. And again this year I’ll wonder where people are getting the money for it. I cannot reconcile this. But I guess it confirms some of the statistics in this article, that many Americans have very little savings. I think those kind of people are going to be in a world of hurt in the near future.


      • chunkeroo

        I suspect it there is a vast underground economy….people who work “cash” jobs off the books and collect entitlements at the same time.

        I heard this is rampant in places like Spain for example.

        Honestly I think a sales tax should replace income tax. Why? Income tax punishes people for being productive and honest and working.

        Sales tax would capture the revenue from drug dealers, pimps, prostitutes, bartenders/waitresses/etc, “cash businesses”. The underground money resurfaces at some point.

        • liberranter

          I suspect it there is a vast underground economy….people who work “cash” jobs off the books and collect entitlements at the same time.

          Let us hope and pray that this is true, because it is the ONLY way that 1) we can keep the government theives’ paws out of our wallets and 2) our economy has even a vague hope of survival over the long term.

          Honestly I think a sales tax should replace income tax. Why? Income tax punishes people for being productive and honest and working.

          Honestly, NO TAX AT ALL should replace the income tax. Paying taxes simply gives the wasteful parasitic bastards an endless supply of money to waste. Starving the beast will kill it.

          Sales tax would capture the revenue from drug dealers, pimps, prostitutes, bartenders/waitresses/etc, “cash businesses”. The underground money resurfaces at some point.

          No, sales taxes would just give the same greedy, tyrannical parasitic bastards who now collect the income tax another source of stolen money to waste and buy more tyranny over us. Starving the beast to death and letting the market represented by these drug dealers, pimps, prostitutes, bartenders/waitresses, etc. [not sure why you’re lumping bartenders and waitresses in with the seamier examples you cite, but I’ll leave that be] work is magic is the ultimate cure. And without the redistributionist coercive violence that the state is able to exercise through its power to tax.

      • RainyDay

        This year our family is only giving practical gifts…for instance no frou frou gifts or useless trinkets for me. I need a sonicare toothbrush to help my teeth stay healthy as long as possible because the cost of dental work is outrageous! I agree about seeing people out at lunch all the time. I always pack my lunch. However, I do splurge every once in a great while and get a double decker taco supreme at taco bell. I realize Im blessed though because I always have food thanks be to God.

      • Paul

        Christmas came early this year. I took an old notebookof my partner and removed Windows and put on Linux. Never had such speed before.
        Now I’m working on upgrading my other computers. Now I have the time for it.

  • Washington

    Published on Sep 14, 2012 by SchiffReport The geniuses at the Federal Reserve have concocted a bold new plan to revive the U.S. economy — print a bunch of money, loan it to Americans at super low interest rates so they can speculate on rising real estate prices, extract the appreciated equity and spend it on consumer goods. In other words, build an economy of real estate, by real estate, and for real estate. The only problem is we’ve been there and done that. The last time it almost destroyed the U.S.economy. I guess almost isn’t quite good enough for the Fed, so now it’s determined to finish the job.

  • Paranoid

    Things are a little better here in Wyoming, so far, All I can say is; write down all you spend and see if you can cut enough to get a few sacks of rice, beans and sugar ahead; cause I think it’s going to get worse. Lots worse.

  • Makati1

    And what is so different about Americans that they should live better than the other 7 billion on this earth? The items listed above are the norm in most countries of the world, partly because Americans think they should have half of the worlds resources for their own use even though they are about 4% of the world’s population. That said: the problems today are being caused by the banking cartel that runs the world for their own benefit. Yes, it IS a class war and the wealthy are winning. They want serfs, not middle class problems. They want total control, not just some. They want you to fail and die so there is more for them. It’s obvious when you take the blinders off.

    A good haircut here in Manila costs $1.25, not the $14.00 I use to pay in the US. Gasoline is $5 here and has been for years. Labor wages are $5 per 8 hour day. And these people are happy and enjoy life. Americans have no idea how to enjoy life. I’m glad I moved here 5 years ago.

  • karen sampson

    I wonder if you will take ‘in god we trust’ off your bills when the whole economy collapses?

    • erheault

      No the new motto will be All Praise To Allah!

      • liberranter

        Not a chance.

  • Henry

    I just had a visit in Honolulu last month, but I don’t think that things are so bad in Hawaii. Most people I know there are quite rich. They own quite a few expensive houses, have very good salaries every month, and seem never have to worry about the economics. I did not realize that the disparity between the rich and the poor is so great now.

    • chunkeroo

      A lot of the properties are inherited – like 50% of homes here have no mortgage. Also many generations live together under one roof – it is jam packed here. The average price of a home to income ratio is absurd.

      Many many people have government jobs both state, federal and county so they have few employment worries.

      Its a very strange place economically.

      Oh – and there is a huge underground economy of gambling and “side jobs” and “cash jobs” and tip money here.

      • Islandgirl

        Just wanted to respond about Hawaii as well. Chunkeroo I agree that it is a very strange place economically and there are so many people living together like you said or there are properties that were bought years ago, so they can afford them. Other than that trying to buy property here is ridiculuos. Never have I seen it this bad. There are those that do really well, but overall I think there are so many people just getting by. I also agree that there are so many federal, state and county jobs here that is a big part outside of tourism.

        Lately I have seen quite a lot of people that are leaving here. It has never been more expensive. I am having trouble staying here with the costs. I am seeing some problems arrising that I have never seen here before. I am seeing a lot more transient/ homeless people. Someone was attacked out of the blue by a homeless person at the mall last week. You can look it up in the Hawaii news. Don’t know if these people have been here for awhile and lost there way here or where they are coming from, but there is a big increase. We usually do not see a lot of crime, but it is going up. Another sign that it is getting bad is I had someone come to my home begging for money just yesterday. I never ever before had someone come to my home to do that. The person said they needed money really bad. Don’t most of us live pay check to pay check now, week to week, day to day now.

        It is strange here in Hawaii at least on this island I see there are those that are wealthy and have a lot of money that come here for vacation to the resorts, so those are doing pretty well still, but they are not spending much outside of the resorts. I talked to someone recently who lost his job after 29 years because the tourism related business has slowed, but it also is a business that also got a lot of local customers, but not any more. I have seen several businesses close down now because the average people are not able to travel here any more. I think tourism now is for the most part coming from those that are well off or those that are still spending that really can’t. I think there a lot of people living falsely out there still. I know several people and heard about people that have not been paying their mortage for 1-2 years. What happens when all of these people have to start paying their way again and don’t have that money to spend. I believe this is going to have a huge impact on the economy. It’s been falsely pumping it up and now these people are not going to be putting this money into the economy any more. This is going to be a huge mess and I am afraid to see what is going to happen.

        • liberranter

          Everyone I’ve ever met on my trips to Hawaii who is a resident there juggles at least two jobs to make ends meet. The cost of everything is, for obvious reasons, RIDICULOUS (although the state’s fascialist government seems determined to make a bad situation worse, no matter what fake half of the Government Party holds power). Housing is indeed obscenely priced (again, for OBVIOUS reasons) and unless you work for the fedgov or do something related to tourism, there really isn’t much of an economy there at all.

          I’m not sure that Hawaii’s economic problems are really soluble, for the simple reason that the state itself is a contrivance, demographically, economically, and politically. The natives who want succession and independence (i.e., restoring Hawaii to the Hawaiians) are actually onto something sensible, although I fear that, thanks to time-tested American ethnic cleansing practices, there are too few of them anymore to make the attempt a success.

          Hawaii’s statehood is the culmination of nearly 150 years of foolish, reckless, and ultimately unsustainable imperialism and was a mistake from the very start. For this reason I fear that when TS ultimately HTF, Hawaii might actually find itself in a worse position than other states (think: too many people on too little land and depending on supplies from The Mainland to sustain themselves).

  • Alasha

    As a single parent and a child who was raised by her grandma – one and two were pretty much a constant for me my entire life. if i had an emergency – i asked for help
    1. One recent survey discovered that 40 percent of all Americans have $500 or less in savings.

    2. A different recent survey found that 28 percent of all Americans do not have a single penny saved for emergencies.

    and now this kicker –
    MILLIONS MUST WORK FOREVER:THE pensions crisis means millions of Britons will never be able to retire!

    • Paul

      Do you know the energy bills of Britons? On average they pay 5 times what I pay. Most houses are not insulated. Double glazing is still a special feature worth mentioning in ads.
      Not every house has a water meter. Water charges are fixed, depending on the neighborhood.

      I think it is time now to switch on the heater. Weather forecast speaks of freezing.

  • Cat Herder

    I’ve been reading this site for close on to 10 months or so (?). I live east of Loudon County. It is, indeed one of the more wealthier counties in Virginia. I, myself, cannot figure out how people live there with the costs of rent alone is staggering.

    The shelters cited are indeed filled up, there’s little relief in the way of popular support (read that as donations of cash from people) due to the amount of money it takes to even feed oneself. Certainly, we’re not suffering as badly as some parts of the Country, but we’re seeing more and more in the streets. In Manassas, I ran across an older lady – my daughter said it was sad. (I gave that lady all what I had in my wallet – but having only $8.00 myself I figured she needed it more than I…)
    But, I digress. We’re rapidly approaching a point of no return. IMO, we’ll likely see people that are fed up with being treated less than human and react accordingly. And what’s really sad is this: People will do whatever it takes to make certain that their children eat, stay warm, have clothes on their backs and a bed to sleep in. I know.

    • liberranter

      CH, Loudoun County, like the rest of Northern VA and Maryland, is “wealthy” ONLY because of neighboring Rome-on-the-Potomac and all of the parasites (both government employees and the “contractors” who “work” for them), with their inflated above-market incomes, who live there. Take away the “fedgov” factor, and the whole region would revert to becoming sleepy farmland again. The only genuinely private-sector employer (i.e., one that doesn’t depend primarily on some form of government for revenue and profit) of any size that I knew to call NoVA home was AOL which had its HQ in Dulles. I don’t even think that is the case anymore.

  • Wally Gator

    I am also hearing that people are letting their domestic animals loose because they cannot afford to take care of them anymore. Not just dogs and cats but horses and others as well. These are domesticated animals, they don’t know how to survive in the outdoors. We are in a very bad situation and things are getting worse by the day.

    • Alasha

      lol…. I can only imagine what the “others” are – Not just dogs and cats but horses and others as well.

      actually this is very sad… how can we care for the these animals when we can’t even help the PPL. gulp

      • liberranter

        Oh, there will ALWAYS be do-gooders who will go to the ends of the earth (and expect you to do so too) to help the animals. It’s just people that no one cares about.

    • Paul

      15 years ago, when eating dogs was still legal in China there weren’t any feral dogs. If your cat ventured out your home it most likely ended up in some pot.

  • vondellx

    well my take on this is i followed some advice given to me years ago, live within your means, i have solar power, no power bill, brought some land for cheap and paid it off, no morgage,use a laptop computer, and stayed out of debt.
    when my job went south i moved onto the propery did not keep trying to maintain what i knew i could not afford, i did find a low paying job, but at least i eat and have a roof over my head, bad as it sounds most people lived beond thier means and even after the ship sank still tryed to keep up with the jones

    • liberranter

      ive within your means

      Most Amoricons would rather be crucified and thrown into the bowels of hell first.

    • Paul

      When the Eastern Bloc collapsed I learned one thing: don’t trust that your government will always be there for you. Things can change over night, literally.

  • To add to the stats…the biggest bank in town (of 4200) was B of A. Closed. Also closed down out the in the little outpost of 230 population a few year back about 30 miles away. Several other business’s have closed. ALL long time, been around for ever type businesses. But the biggest bank? On top of it all? Something is very, very wrong. Inflation is a big deal and our pay has actually been cut. CUT, and that is not including inflation. Extremely difficult to make ends meet. We do it, but not without cutting other services. We will be cutting more as we go, too hard to make those ends meet. Union has not helped us in any way, play divide and conquer games, so that they can stay relevant I guess. Just tough times. All the way around.

    • liberranter

      You might have information that indicates otherwise, but I would strongly suspect that the reason BofA closed its branch in your town is because, like most large corporate entities, they didn’t think it was profitable to continue to operate a branch in a town of such small size. They probably consolidated your local branch with another one in a nearby town or a nearby big city (their logic being “hey, it’s only hicks who banked at that little branch. Let’em hoof it into the city if they want their money.”)

  • Generally, the problem is a build up of bad ideas, bad decisions and corruption. And why did these build up? They all build up during the good times, then end up causing the bad times.

    If the government had allowed recessions to play out naturally since the end of World War II, then we wouldn’t be in this mess. Instead it always seeks to smooth out the recessions. That means the people who make bad decisions get to keep their jobs, stupid ideas get to grow, and corruption gets to spread.

    • liberranter


  • Chris

    Americans were not doing anything great to uplift humanity when they had it all like some decades back…I don’t pity anyone in America right now except those who had it all but were in their own limits and knew the responsibility as a human being. I don’t see anyone showing quality of a human being here.

    You guys made babies and sent them to fight far off lands. All you had to do when you had it all was JUST SAYING NO. I won’t join the Army, even if i die hungry….thats just an example…A Good American is a dead American…look at your kids…I’m scared of your new generation….What they are capable off now..NO RESPECT for anyone let alone themselves..Do you really want a good life for brat teenagers of America…common…Its good its all getting ends fast…

    Also, you guys brought not one but multiple cars for your family, YOU NEVER SAVED BUT WASTED..remember those days..Its just Pay back time baby….even now with your iphone crap….You guys are no different than Indians or Chinese or Russian or Japanese or Africans…Same shit different paper…Humans beings are same…You guys had your time, most did not its destruction time…

    I’m from India, i never had a steady job, I’m still unemployed, I lived in squatter and poor. I could have gotten into Army or IT field and taken over American jobs BUT i said no, I won’t take a single American job that they deserve, I have considered suicide, I have engineering degree but its worthless, unless i take the earning of another human being somewhere in Planet. You see this is how the matrix is designed.

    Learn to SAY NO. I’m the good guy here and I do not fear anything and you guy don’t have to as well. If you are good. You will be saved. I guarantee you. This sh**t goes beyond earth. Many alien races space ships are already here….most of us will be saved.

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      You have a very sick view of life. Seek help.

  • Chris

    I want to add…Most of the stuff you guys cry about…You don’t need it…You are just about wasting it when you had it all stats…that would be interesting and America would top it for sure…You will equal like that of other great civilizations in the past…’cos human beings have not changed much..America was an experiment and you guys failed the entire human race. Now for most, the cycle will restart.

    I really believe there are good Americans who are stuck who do not relate to American way of life… they will be saved. You guys will be saved, Its 100% guaranteed. No good guys will be left behind. Aliens are already among us, they will contact you shortly and save you soon. The destruction is coming we can feel it and can read it through the stats here, your rescue is not far off..Nothing to worry guys..Its your homecoming…you are safe…

  • Rufus T Firefly

    Time for these losers to go into the forests and plains to live like American Indians did. Hunt buffalo and squirrels, harvest some corn, eat some roots, live in a tepee, make mocassins and clothes out of deer. You can’t make it in this world, too freaking bad. You want sympathy, look in the dictionary between “******” and “syphyllis”. Just don’t bother me for a handout when I enter an Apple store to buy a new iphone- I am as stingy with my charitable contributions as Obama and Biden. Life and its rewards belong to the strong, those who are strengthened by the crucible, not destroyed by it.
    And you can be assured that I have more than $500 in savings because I have working brain cells.

  • sally mae

    Heaven help you where I live if you have the electric cut off. They charge a disconnect pennalty of $35.00 and a reconnect fee og $85.00 – so that’s an additional $120.00 ON TOP OF the bill you couldn’t afford to pay! It’s actually cheaper to bounce a check!

    • jayjay

      Good answer.

    • Alasha

      which i have done plenty times in past while waiting for my next paycheck – what does one do though when you have a another paycheck coming………..

      It’s actually cheaper to bounce a check!

      “Oh Mercy, Mercy, Mercy Me – things ain’t what they used to be”

  • markthetruth

    Yep! their names are Syrin and Gary2 they came in as 1 and 2nd and 3rd posts .

    They were posting while driving, everyone wants to be the first.

    Although you check the site only to see you cooment is waiting , Because Michael(he’s a loafer) is a human not a machine.

    Everything created by humans in this world is getting faster and faster to the point where everything has to be “INSTANT”. But nature is not. Natural resources replenish at there natual time.

    “Speed Kills” and will kill us all just faster. Net Zero Gain.

    the end.

    Michael delete my last post i typed to fast with misakes

  • MarkieMark

    The coming years are about to get crueler especially for those on Social Security and fixed incomes.
    I have been forecasting for the last 4 years the course the government will take to deal with the massive debt and deficits. My predictions are coming true……
    The only way the government can get out of the debt/deficit situation they are in is to let inflation run hot while holding entitlement spending to near current levels. Witness the rise in fuel prices in the last 4 years — $1.86 then vs. $3.50 today. Witness the 15% rise in food prices. Yet Social Security recipients are seeing hardly any Cost-of-Living adjustments based on the manipulated government’s “Official” CPI.
    It will get worse. The government is counting on Chinese slave labor to continue to deflate prices on non-essential items like electronics and Chinese competion in car manufacturing to hold down prices on the categories they use to base the CPI. They also are secretly cheering the depressed prices in the housing market to further reduce the CPI. Yet consumers see food and fuel which are excluded from CPI calculations go through the roof.
    There will be Social Security payment increases, but the paltry 2 or 3% increases will lag behind the true 6 or 7% inflation.

  • trebor ozal

    Spot on Mike!

    My wife and I own a Small Barbershop in Milwaukee. Over the last 5 years our business has been slowly drying up. The shop has been established for over 50 years in the same location. We have owned it over 20 years. Having just done the last quarter paper work we are down over 35% from where we were before this “crunch” We are not sure what we are going to do. Not much left to cut back on.

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      A truly honest suggestion…

      Change to doing women’s hair. Think about it. If a guy is broke, he’ll cut his hair himself. I’ve been cutting my son’s and my own hair for 15 years. Because I’m frugal like that.

      But a woman’s hair is something sacred and she sure as hell ain’t gonna let her man cut it….

  • whtmtngirl

    I agree w/ Phelps. I’ve been line drying my clothes, been hyper-vigilent about electicity usage in our home, not because I cannot pay my rising electric bill, but because I am so MAD!! Same goes for gas, food, everything. Our family one income is doing without but it has more to do with whose in control here. I’m not going to let my man’s hard earned dollars go into the gas tank.

  • former Cal girl

    Here in our small town we are seeing an increase in homelessness and the soup kitchens have experienced a 50 percent increase over the summer. Walmart parking lot has one to two families daily who are seeking help. Our local charity organization embarrass rd me with thanks every time I drop off food. It is reported that 90 percent of the kids in our local public schools are on subsidise d lunch programs. Yes, it is a it t verwhelming and scary but we all need to get active and help out where we can.

  • Catherine

    The problem in this country is too many people glorify the rich. The income inequality is what is killing this country. We need to organize workers and fight against the greedy corporations. We need wages so we can live and not paycheck to paycheck. A person should not have to have a full-time and a part-time job to survive. Voting in the republicans will make it even worse. Go ahead vote from them we will all be at war with one another. No protections for women the republicans refuse to sign the Violence against woman act. Just this week in Wisconsin we have had two shootings involving domestic violence. One killed three women another one involved a couple yesterday with a police shoot out. The political agenda in this country is too weed out the poor by having us all kill each other.

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      “The income inequality is what is killing this country. We need to organize workers and fight against the greedy corporations”

      Yea, kill the corporations. The ones that hold the union pensions AND YOURS if you have a functioning brain. Yea, that’s the ticket.

      No honey, it’s not the corporations (at least SOLELY). Judging by your screed, I’m going to assume you haven’t thought to lok at govt.

      “No protections for women the republicans refuse to sign the Violence against woman act.”

      LOL! Really. Signing a law provides what “protection” again? You think that law would have stopped those shootings?

      Please name one law that stopped what it outlawed.

  • Faux Gary

    I say we should all demand that Gary2 be taxed some more and his wealth redistributed. He’s a moral relativist, right? He’s also more “wealthy” than some other people, regardless of how little he claims to have. Therefore, tax him, hard, and give it away to those it doesn’t belong to and who didn’t earn it. He’ll approve, I’m sure, because he’s a stand-up guy.

    • Walter

      As someone that leans socialist I say we abolish most taxes. Let’s not only lower taxes on the bottom 90% of people, let’s entirely eliminate them, eh?

      Taxes should only be used to limit excessive accumulations of wealth–like those in the top 10%. These taxes should be progressive so that those at the 90th percentile pay 35% in taxes and those in the top 1 percentile pay 75%, or something. Oh, and to be really fair we would tax capital gains and wealth at these same rates, or greater! It’s a shame we value capital gains over labor gains. We tax the banker who makes money of other people’s labor less than we tax the worker doing the labor. Shows how our society is run by immoral money lenders.

      But then to be really fair our money should be redistributed on a per capita basis by giving everyone a minimum income. I say $25,000 a year.

      So if you’re making $50,000 a year in a job and paying $15,000 in federal taxes (including payroll), you would then have an extra $40,000 to spend each year, or a total of $75,000 instead of $35,000.

      This is actually more fair and more moral than a system based on wage slavery and ‘free market’ capitalism.

      Our current system redistributes wealth from the many to the few at the top. There is no avoiding redistribution. Let’s do good redistribution.

    • liberranter

      I say we should all demand that Gary2 be taxed some more and his wealth redistributed.

      That MIGHT work if Gary had any wealth, which he obviously doesn’t. Hence his juvenile screeds.

      Maybe a better idea would be to enslave him to some of the “wealthy” people he so despises. Since he can’t make his own way in the world (why else would he advocate theft?) and since he apparently believes in slavery himself (the State owns everything and everybody), why not give him a taste of his own medicine?

  • William

    Stop the complaining. It is clear that Americans want to give away money to foreign countries, instead of taking care of Americans. And, the final cost of $3-4 TRILLION for the illegal and unnecessary war of choice in Iraq has been wasted on LIES. Americans largely supported the Smirking Chimp and war criminal Bush in this unnecessary war. Maybe when economic collapse affects YOU, you will start to be AMERICA FIRST. Just ask Max Boot.

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      5 snores.

      Hey, so what do you think of Obama lying his back side off about Benghazi?

      You know, the one where intelligence warned in advance, the State Dept knew what was happening, there was a drone on the scene watching it happen, security was drawn down, they KNEW it was terrorism, they left the ambassador and 3 others there to die, etc etc and yet, your president has shuckin and jivin about some idiotic video since day 1.

      BTW, your president is arming Al Qaeda with stinger missiles in Syria.

    • liberranter

      No, American POLITICIANS want to give money to foreign countries, in complete disregard for the LOUDLY VOICED objections to such a practice by the American citizenry.

  • canuck

    I live in Quebec. According to Statistics Canada Quebec unemployment is 9.1%, which is considerably higher than U.S. unemployment which I think fell below 8% recently.

    Let me tell you, things are booming here in Quebec compared to places I’ve been in the US! Our shopping mall parking lots are packed every day of the week with people buying things they cant afford on credit. You just don’t see the poverty and hardship that you do south of the border. If unemployment is at 8%, America should be booming!

    Sadly, everyone I know believes the stats and can’t see a global economic collapse. Friends of mine who go to the states don’t walk or drive just a few blocks away from their hotel resort to see what’s going on.

    There’s no fixing this current economic or political system. It must crash and only then can something new be rebuilt. I tell my friends to stack physical gold and silver and buy food while they can. Everyone laughs and tells me it won’t happen! It is absolutely frightening how the masses have become so delusional and detached from reality. I fear most people won’t know how to deal with the withdrawal pains of cheap credit when the plug is pulled.

    • 11110

      i’m from quebec too.
      man, the sheeples are in for
      a rude awakening.

    • Islandgirl

      I agree that it will crash and be newly built, but what system will be newly built? I am afraid that it is not something that we will want and the same people that got us into this mess are going to be the ones that build the new system to their benefit and will try to push us into this new system of theirs. Most people who do not realize what is happening I am afraid will be the people that will fall into it and be led down that path. How do we prevent that from happening? This is where it will get interesting.

    • Paul


      After German unification unemployment in the East jumped to 30-60%. It is still over 10%, but only because the young left, and the birthrate fell off a cliff after the wall came down.

  • Jeff

    I came across the website via a link posted on another. I must say I have never felt so much sorrow for my fellow Americans as I do after reading these statistics and thinking about people I know and don’t know who are these statistics. I find myself in a few categories and I’m very thankful for every damn thing I have, which is not much, material wise. But my most prized possessions are my wife and children and these stats make me weep. I live in North Dakota where are economy is very strong, unemployment of 3%, average income has risen, and jobs are abundant. But we are not immune. I was a small business owner for 7 years until 2011. Just could not afford all the red tape and paper work required for small s-corp business. I work in the construction industry and at one point there was severe price declines in labor and huge increases in materials due to our national economy. Forced me to cut back employees, expenses, ect, which led me to close operations. I don’t blame anyone, I was very successful. But since then I have gone back to work for another larger company, my wages decreased drastically and I have had to make severe changes to my way of life and it still scares me to this day. My point here is that just when you think “it won’t happen to me”, it does. In one way or another. I have a very big heart when it comes to seeing others suffer, especially women and children, so my thoughts and prayers go out to you all.

    • liberranter

      I was a small business owner for 7 years until 2011. Just could not afford all the red tape and paper work required for small s-corp business.

      This is a MAJOR reason for the state of our economy today. Government regulation, on top of confiscatory taxation of businesses (especially small businesses), is STRANGLING the entrepreneurship needed to get things back on track.

      As I’ve said here before and will say again, only a FOOL or a masochist would start a business “above ground” in today’s Amerika!

  • Lucille

    I gauge the economy by the amount of prostitutes I see on the street corner every morning when I am going to work in my 15 year old car. I wish I could post the pics of what I am seeing. Not only is the number quadrupled, but the women out there look like they may have had office jobs not too long ago. They actually look good. Some are even young they look like they are paying off college loans. Back in the 90’s most of them were crack heads and looked horrible. Also I have a friend who lives on the other side of town and he tells me that he is seeing young men selling themselves on the street too! Shit is hitting the fan people, maybe it’s not as dramatic as the movies, but it is starting to unwind bug time. My boss is also threatening to cut several of us off the payroll. Just hoping and hanging on that I am able to pay off my outrages mortgage payments. I drank the kool aid like everyone else since I grew up in the public education system too! Now I hate every thing and every one that tries to push that crap on any one.

  • markthetruth

    Yep! their names are Syrin and Gary2 they came in as 1 and 2nd and 3rd posts .

    They were posting while driving, everyone wants to be the first.

    Although you check the site only to see you cooment is waiting , Because Michael(he’s a loafer) is a human not a machine.

    Everything created by humans in this world is getting faster and faster to the point where everything has to be “INSTANT”. But nature is not. Natural resources replenish at there natual time.

    Vroom! Nation’s fastest road to open in Texas
    The final 41-mile stretch of Texas Highway 130 will open Wednesday after three years of construction. The speed limit will be 85 mph.

    “Speed Kills” and will kill us all just faster. Net Zero Gain.

    the end.

    Michael delete my last post i added something i just found

  • hydrogator

    I saw the economic downturn coming and knew how it would affect my small engineering company. I started a new and used tire business for extra income and it is growing slowly. I still do engineering work. I can not believe all the broke people that come here looking for used tires because they can not afford new ones. Sometimes I can save a low quality used tire with a few thousand miles left on it and put it on someone’s car that still has a minimum wage job and they can go to work. Obama said he fought China on the importation of cheap tires by putting a tariff on the Chinese tires. The American companies only raised their price to match the Chinese prices and put new tires out of reach of low-income and middle-class people. Romney was right about how the tariff would work. Thirty percent unemployment seems to be the tipping point at which violent civil unrest starts and we are getting closer all the time. Everyone I talk to knows the situation this country is in and they blame Washington and Wall Street. I hope Romney is serious about turning this country around. If not he will be a one-term President and the next one we elect will be a tea party conservative that will put the corrupt politicians and business leaders in a nice prison cell.

    • liberranter

      I hope Romney is serious about turning this country around.

      Do you also believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, and the official 9/11 story?

  • Just another avenue of the “Perfect Storm” that is battering our shores from every angle.
    How much can our people take before this house of cards (Ponzi Scheme) comes crashing dowm upon all our heads.
    Don’t forget food prices, drought, gas prices, money printing, all debt, the Euro Collapse and the huge derivatives bubble hanging over our heads, some 200 Trillion Dollars that the Banksters will saddle the American tax payer with. That comes to 666 Billion Dollars per man, woman and child in America. The IRS says they will take a check or a debit card number for what you owe them. (Nice round number that worked out to eh?)
    I don’t know, but one day soon it will all come crashing down.
    This crash will become the great equalizer, as then rich or poor will ALL BE SUPER POOR.
    Then a wealthy man with a PHd will be asking “How did this happen to me, how did I get here, Who did this to me, Who do I blame?”
    Then you will be finding yoeself asking the next question. “Where is my next meal coming from, Where can I find safe water to drink?”
    Prepare, Time is so very short.
    Prepare Like your LIFE depends on it, AS IT DOES.
    Prepare as IF the lives of your wife and children depends on it, AS IT DOES.
    Prepare as if there is no tomorrow, as there very well may NOT BE!
    As TIME is one presious commodity you have so very little of and NO ONE can give you one second more, after this event hits.
    Yes, HELL ON EARTH IS COMING, Get Ready!

  • Jim

    Hey Gary2 – there are 2 kinds of rich people. Good ones and bad ones. The good ones had desire and self-motivation and worked their ass off and succeeded, and helped alot of other people out on their way up by providing good jobs for them, and give a lot to charity. Bad ones are criminals that commit crimes to stomp on other people (eg, Goldman Sachs employees) to swindle them out of their money thru fraud and crime. Go after the bad ones and cheer for and support the good ones.

  • Tom

    Michael,I am very fortunate that I’m retired and can pay my bills-for now.My problem is that I’ve become very sick and may not live much longer.So I turned to Jesus to guide me.He is the only way.

    • Michael


      How can we be praying for you?


  • Washington

    Asian economies turn to yuan, “and dump dollar!” Updated: 2012-10-24 By Gao Changxin

    A “renminbi bloc” has been formed in East Asia, as nations in the region abandon the US dollar and peg their currency to the Chinese yuan — a major signal of China’s successful bid tointernationalize its currency, a research report has said.

  • Walking up escalator going down

    Those who got very successful in the past have changed the rules of the game in their favor. It’s no longer a free market but a highly manipulated market. When the rules of the game are no longer fair, who wants to play? Who wants to open or expand businesses? The rich can take huge risk and not having to worry about taking any loss. Any losses will be extracted from the little guy, the hard working American who had nothing to do with their Wall Street bets. Small business owners work so hard to clime the social latter only to face an escalator not only going in the opposite direction but also moving faster and faster. Politicians are all sold out and are passing more laws to control its people and their wealth. Schools are not teaching any more but more like a day care center. People get fooled to go to college, acquires huge debt to start off their lives. 4 Years later – “congratulation, Here is your Bachelor Certificate of Slavery!”. Oh there’s a cashier slot open at Walmart, Hurry!

    • jayjay

      It’s called privatizing profits, and socializing losses.

  • davidmpark

    We’ve been in it up to our necks in issues and problems that keep us in financial poverty. Just financial poverty – not true poverty.

    Poverty is a culture; a mindset; a decision.

    When it’s forced, it’s unnatural and cannot stand.

    Right now, we are finally saving, doing research, searching and working prayerfully. We are in a position to obtain a parcel of land to care for ourselves. 20 acres is great, but the areas we’re looking at have hundreds available for good prices. Places with water and minerals, arable plots, and raw materials!

    Constant home production, industry, and storage + steady income + decent, stable investments = real wealth 🙂

    God give many the inspiration to do the same and thrive providently.

  • jayjay

    phelps..that was tried.
    The nation was asked to not buy gas for 3 days, one Friday – Sunday weekend.
    It flopped.
    The sheeple are not gonna listen till Am Idol and DWTS is off tv.
    No tv in this house by the way…I support your revolutionary idea though.

    • phelps

      Thanks jayjay. We are keeping the TV to a minimum – no Fox, CNN or MSNBC and viewing websites instead. Shopping at stores more customer friendly than Wally, although I do like Wally’s prices. Cutting back on new goods and buying used when we can.

      If the worst does happen maybe we can all find each other, defend a piece of the country and rebuild a society that more reflects our values.

      Good day.

  • DownWithLibs

    I refuse to go on without Mondos’ commentary. Humor is what keeps me sane during these um…interesting times. Mondo, you are MUCH appreciated.

  • Pu

    All fiat currency’s fail !!!
    It’s only a matter of time !!!
    Why all the “we buy gold commercials ”
    Popping up all over the place?
    It’s because gold Does not lose value
    But a Dollar backed by nothing is worthless
    The problem is to big to fix, we can only slow it down a bit
    My advice is, enjoy life , help others if you can,
    Be responsible, show character…
    The definition of character : the way you treat the people
    That can’t do nothing for you , OR, doing the right thing
    Even when you think no ones watching . Find happiness in what you got and what you do…TRY TO! Everything in life is a privilage to experience
    EVERYTHING …. Good and bad….only 1 promise in life…we all know what that is? Be well to all

  • Kelly

    Hi Michael.. I was wondering… You know, a while back someone posted a message on your boards here and included a link to an old movie… maybe 1980s, 1990s, not sure, but it was a movie about a stock market crash or an economic collapse… and it was ironic how it was so similar to what we can be facing now. It showed scenes all over the world of riots starting, chaos, frightened stock market traders…

    I was wondering if you or anyone knows the name of this movie? I’m interested in finding it and watching it.

    Thank you!

    • Michael


      Hmmmm I am not sure which movie that was. Maybe Wall Street?

      Does anyone know?


      • Kelly

        I just googled “WallStreet”… that’s the one with Charlie Sheen. This one is even older than that. Almost looked like 70’s by the way everyone dressed.

        No worries. Hopefully someone will remember and re-post! Thank you and God Bless!


        • Kelly

          Actually, I think I may have found it… I think it’s called: “Rollover 1981” (Kris Kristoferson, Jane Fonda, etc.)

          Thank you!

    • davidmpark

      It’s called “Rollover” from 1981 starring Chris Christopherson and ‘Hanoi’ Jane Fonda.

      Here’s a link to some clips and other goodies:

    • Mondobeyondo

      I posted that link a couple months ago or so. I can’t look it up right now. Must conserve battery power…

      • Mondobeyondo

        Michael, is it possible to search through the archives to find it? I remember posting it back in August, I think.

  • Concerned mom

    Great article just wish there were better news for us. The media says everything is turning around but I don’t think the majority of Americans can feel it. I have some family members and friends out of work. I know many young HS graduates that can’t find work. Our family has felt the pinch. We lost 100,000 in Real Estate back in the crash of 08, over 30,000 in stocks, we are currently in bankruptcy after trying to hold on for the last 5 years for things to turn around. Our incomes went from approx 80,000/yr. to 29,000/yr. and don’t forget the inflation on gas, food, electricity, health insurance and most everything else. The worst part is, you can’t trust the politicians because they don’t say what they mean and mean what they say. It doesn’t appear to be any quick fix for us when we are spending 2 million a minute on our gov. debt. I’m really confused though Americans are having to pay for all this mismanagement and the politicians are giving our money to our enemies like the Muslim brotherhood in Egypt and God knows who else. What the heck is really going on here? Where’s the outrage. Our men and women have fought and died for our freedom, was it in vain? How long must we be oppressed and tyrannized over these corrupt lawyers that are running this great nation into the ground. Shame on the media and the politicians for not doing their due diligence for not serving the people instead looking after their own interests as they get paid off by lobbyist, and foreign countries at the cost of our freedom and liberty, may they remember that they work for us. UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL!!!!! GOD BLESS AMERICA!

  • JoeKidd

    ‘All of us are on the reservation now.’

    -Russell Means
    (Founder American Indian

    ‘The chickens are coming home to roost’.
    -Malcolm X

    • liberranter

      RIP, Russell. You were a GREAT man whose wisdom and inspiration will be SORELY missed (although we can almost envy you for choosing to go home when you did).

  • Ghulam

    “In the United States today, more than 41 percent of all working age Americans are not working.”

    Few women went out to work in times past, extending millennia into the past, and yet we ate a healthier diet and educated children. After the Second World War had Americans simply carried on with traditional ways, no enemy could have touched them for centuries. The oil that Americans had under their own land would have lasted many decades had it not been consumed in an orgy of material excess. Instead of following the standard model supported by of all of the world’s major religions, modern capitalists chose, like their fellow materialists the Communists, to use the Enlightenment rhetoric of liberation to rearrange the social order. By “liberating” women, putting them into the work force, the West embarked upon an unstable course of continually increasing consumption that could only be sustained by taking by force the resources of the rest of the world. This made their need to dominate other nations inevitable, their destruction of the environment was accelerated, and their family structures were undermined.

  • kt

    My husband and I have been helping those less fortunate since we have been married, over 30 yrs. We started out with not very much raised two sons, put them thru college w/ used cars on median income. Clipped a lot of coupons, bought much on clearance or secondhand. We live pretty simply with average dwelling buying only what we need and carry no credit card debt. Helping less fortunate remains a priority especially since the need continues to increase. “He that has pity upon the poor lends unto the Lord and that which he has given will be paid to him again.” Proverbs 19:17. The best investment anyone can make. Can anyone repay better than God?

  • Diane C.

    I truly believe we are in a depression (not a recession) but no one wants to say that. In the great depression which started in 1929, you see pictures of homeless people standing in soup lines. I guess the government at that time provided the soup, or maybe just people who could help.

    Today, we see people standing in line at food banks, (the modern soup line), homeless people who can’t find a place to stay because all the shelters are full. No jobs, but our government is now handing out food stamps, free medical, long term unemployment which at some point that will all crash too.

    What is the different between now and 1930’s depression? Government making it worse.

    • El Pollo de Oro

      Diane C.: Many people don’t like to use the “d word,” but I’ve repeatedly said that The Banana Republic of America entered a recession in late 2007 and a full-fledged depression in September 2008. Peter Schiff has a slightly different take; he thinks it has been a depression since late 2007. But Schiff and I are on the same page when it comes to the fact that we are still in a depression. And economist John Williams (Shadow Statistics) has said that the real unemployment rate in the BRA is 22.4% when you factor in all the Americans who’ve been unemployed for so long that they’ve fallen off the government radar. Plus, Williams has said that many of the 77.6% he doesn’t consider unemployed are likely to be making less than they were pre-depression. Another savvy person who thinks the BRA is in a depression is Gerald Celente, who believes that this depression will deepen considerably and become worse than the Great Depression of the 1930s. When that happens, keep your gun handy—there are going to be a lot of hungry, angry, desperate people doing very desperate things in the BRA.

  • El Pollo de Oro

    The real presidential debate (not the Marack Bitt Obamney puppet shows brought to you the Republi-Con hacks at Fox News and the Democrap hacks at MSNBC) took place last night with four third-party candidates, including Gary Johnson and Jill Stein. It was refreshing to hear people with different political views having an intelligent dialogue rather than the usual “carnival barker” crap we get from the corporate media. Gary Johnson, in my opinion, won the debate, saying that only true capitalism (as opposed to fascism) and entrepreneurism can save this country. But Stein was spot on when she said that a country without a middle class has a grim future. Johnson agreed, although they had different views on how to save the American middle class. And having visited both Latin America and North Africa, I can say without hesitation that things are going to get really nasty if The Banana Republic of America (formerly Les Etas Unis) continues its plunge into Third World squalor. What will happen when all these people who can’t feed their families get sick of their miserable lot in life? They will do what so many people in banana republics do in order to survive. Some will sell drugs, others will collect the Desperate People Doing Desperate Things Tax (DPDDTT). Corporate apologists will find out what hell is like when they can’t even go to el supermercado in the middle of the afternoon without armed bodyguards. If you want a sneak preview of what the BRA’s ugly future will be like, I suggest watching a Venezuelan movie called “Secuestro Express” (the movie Hugo Chavez hates–he doesn’t like to admit that his “workers paradise” has a horrible crime problem). It’s a trashy exploitation movie, but it does shed some light on the types of things that the angry have-nots do to the haves in banana republics.

    “The United States has collapsed economically, socially, politically, legally, constitutionally, and environmentally.”—Paul Craig Roberts

    “Prepare, prepare, prepare. Three months worth of water, fresh water, first aid supplies. If you are going to buy weapons, do it now for self-defense because it’s obvious that with 11 policemen being shot in a 24-hour period and police forces being cut back, you will have to look out for yourself. The predators will come out.”—Michael Ruppert

    “A lot of times, prosperity makes people very, very lackadaisical. They wear like it is a protective cloak, when really, it brings the wolves.”—Alex Jones

    “Take a place like Spain or Greece, and you have youth unemployment rates of over 50% in some of the countries. You don’t have to be Freud to figure this one out. You have young people with testosterone and hormones raging through their bodies—no future in front of them, they’re angry as hell and they’re raging mad. You think you’re not going to see class warfare? You don’t think you’re going to see civil unrest? You think they’re just going to lay down and get rolled over?”—Gerald Celente

    “Los Estados Unidos has turned into a banana republic, a fascist banana republic.”—Gerald Celente

    “This is the face of our political class: arrogant, authoritarian, and on the level of some banana republic south of the border. Welcome to the New America, where leader-worship has taken the place of politics, Team Red and Team Blue battle it out to see who gets to be El Supremo for the next four years, and politics resembles a prolonged soccer game.”—Justin Raimondo,

    The BRA’s corporate fascists have their goon squads in place to slaughter political dissenters, but those goon squads won’t protect you from the DPDDTT collectors. The White Shoe Boys are only worried about political dissent, not keeping you safe from the DPDDTT collectors who will slit your throat in a minute if they think it will keep their kids from going hungry. Various preppers have asked if I think they’re alarmists. Ararmists? Hell no! Preppers are the smartest, sanest people out there. Preppers don’t labor under the delusion that Barack “Goldman Sachs” Obama or Mitt “Wall Street” Romney will save them from the ravenous wolves when the you-know-what hits the fan. Preppers realize that the 11th hour is at hand. And preppers are more likely to escape the DPDDTT collectors when the DPDDTT comes a knockin’ in The Banana Republic of America, land of the corrupt and home of the desperate.

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      “The BRA’s corporate fascists have their goon squads in place to slaughter political dissenters”

      I’m sure you noticed that the DHS “fascist goon squad” graduated their first class of hitler youth this month.

      • liberranter

        I saw that. I can only imagine that this is being widely ignored by the MSM (nah, ya think?). Otherwise, there would just HAVE to be a sufficient number of “real” Americans left to raise a howl of protest.

  • Karen

    Michael on Janice Coe concerning the young women in the dc subway I would like to help is there any e mail or what ever so that I can any contact way to. Help please let me know you have my e mail

    • Michael

      I am afraid that I don’t have any contact info other than what was in that article.


  • jsmith

    Are you people blind, can’t you see it, can’t you feel them, are you people deaf, can’t you hear them? The same greedy International Banksters that shafted the Germans after WW1, are now doing it to us Americans and the Europeans. Wake up!

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      “The same greedy International Banksters that shafted the Germans after WW1”

      Uhh no. That belongs directly at the feet of p.o.l.i.t.i.c.i.a.n.s like that bastard Woodrow Wilson.

  • comnenus

    They will just wander from here to there until they all drop the dead.
    That’s how history worked for 10000+ years, from the days of the Pharaohs and even before.

  • Traffix

    I have been self-employed for years, was a cop before that. I went through the process to go back to my old P.D. in case Obama got in again, now I found out the county is 40 million in the hole and facing major lay-offs. The good news is I didn’t accept the job yet and my business got a contract last week for alot more work. God always makes a way, and I give him all the credit.

  • none

    GOOD NEWS: Micheal.

    I think we will be able to keep sending the foreign aid that we have been giving to the Chinese since the 1960’s.

  • Anna44

    Four years ago- I started putting food away knowing the prices would be going up. My friends teased me constantly- telling everyone “she thinks the world is going to end!”. They got a lot of laughs at my expense. Two years ago, my husband lost his job from government cuts to the military and he was forced out. That food supply has saved us. It’s lasted 2 years and I’ve only had to buy meat & cleaning supplies. Now- it’s running low- but my garden is helping in a big way. You know those so-called friends still tease & dismiss me and don’t even realize my world did end two years ago. At least I was prepared- and have become accustomed to the daily struggle & setbacks. When hard times hit THEM- I won’t laugh – but I’m not going to help either because I won’t be in a position to help. All of my resources will have been used up at that time and they didn’t think to offer assistance when we really needed it. I don’t even feel bad for them anymore. Any strength left on my end- must go to pushing my own family forward and not trying to drag their unbelieving behinds out of the fantasy world they chose to live in.

    • GodsMessenger

      A Christian lady living in the late 1800’s& early 1900’s saw all of this coming. She said,

      “The time is fast coming when the controlling power of the labor unions will be very oppressive. Again and again the Lord has instructed that our people are to take their families away from the cities, into the country, where they can raise their own provisions; for in the future the problem of buying and selling will be a very serious one. We should now begin to heed the instruction given us over and over again: Get out of the cities into rural districts, where the houses are not crowded closely together, and where you will be free from the interference of enemies.”—Letter 5, 1904. {Country Living pg.9, Ellen G. White}

      “The trades unions will be one of the agencies that will bring upon this earth a time of trouble such as has not been since the world began.”—Letter 200, 1903.
      The work of the people of God is to prepare for the events of the future, which will soon come upon them with blinding force. In the world gigantic monopolies will be formed. Men will bind themselves together in unions that will wrap them in the folds of the enemy. A few men will combine to grasp all the means to be obtained in certain lines of business. Trades unions will be formed, and those who refuse to join these unions will be marked men.—Letter 26, 1903. {Country Living pg. 10.3, Ellen G. White}

      “The trades unions and confederacies of the world are a snare. Keep out of them, and away from them, brethren. Have nothing to do with them. Because of these unions and confederacies, it will soon be very difficult for our institutions (businesses) to carry on their work in the cities. My warning is: Keep out of the cities…. Educate our people to get out of the cities into the country, where they can obtain a small piece of land, and make a home for themselves and their children….” {Country Living pg.10, Ellen G. White}

      “…erelong there will be such strife and confusion in the cities, that those who wish to leave them will not be able. We must be preparing for these issues. April 6, 1903. {Country Living 11, Ellen G. White}

      “Get out of the cities as soon as possible, and purchase a little piece of land, where you can have a garden…” {Country Living pg.17, Ellen G. White}

      …These are just a few quotes from this author. Her letters were compiled and put in a book called Country Living. The dates on these letters date back to the late 1800’s & early 1900’s. This statements are ringing true for us today! Get out of the cities! Get into the country rural areas where you can grow your own food!!!

      • Jonathan

        Too bad she was dead wrong about everything else. A rather poor ploy to promote your religion.

      • DL.

        And I thought EG White (who IS RIGHT about the Sabbath, BTW….still I’m not about to become a Seventh Day Adventist) was a compassionate person…back in her day, labor unions were vital, so I can’t understand why she hates them. She wanted workers to be exploited and liked child labor in coal mines at the age of 6? Really?

        • GodsMessenger

          President Obama by an executive order has given power to labor unions that havn’t been available to them for many years and in this article he says the labor unions are not part of the problems but part of the solution. (Who can like anything that comes out of his mouth lately).
          Obama said…”Mr. Obama said his goal was to reverse Bush administration labor policies and “level the playing field for workers and the unions that represent their interests.”…He (Obama) added: “I do not view the labor movement as part of the problem — to me, it’s part of the solution.”[Obama]”

          Read more: Obama reversing Bush on unions – Washington Times
          Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

          The Pope said….”WASHINGTON (CNS) — When Pope Benedict XVI released his third encyclical — “Caritas in Veritate” (“Charity in Truth”) — he stressed that the voice of workers must be heard as heads of state, industry moguls, labor union leaders and environmentalists develop long-term solutions for the ailing global economy.”…”The pope’s encyclical — released in early July — re-emphasizes the Catholic Church’s continuing support of workers associations going back to Pope Leo XIII’s encyclical, “Rerum Novarum,” in 1891, but it also challenges labor union leaders to adapt to a growing global economy to remain relevant.
          …According to John Carr, executive director of the Department of Justice, Peace and Human Development at the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, the pope’s encyclical says a healthy economy depends on workers who earn a sustainable wage, receive reliable health benefits and have a safe environment in which to perform their jobs….”Pope Benedict, like earlier popes, thinks labor unions are a big part of the solution,” Carr told Catholic News Service.

          …I dont believe anything that comes out of the Popes mouth either. But whenever you have the Pope and the President agreeing on issues that are leading to the financial economic colapse,New World Order & time of trouble we will have problems. Ellen G. White predicted these exact fulfillments over a century ago.

      • notaneoliberal

        Labor unions haven’t had a thing to do with it. In fact. it has been the destruction of organised labor that has helped lower the standard of living in the US. I would recommend you read “The White Lie” by Walter Rea.

        • GodsMessenger

          Walter Rea was a disgruntled Adventist. He was a former SDA who got his little 15 mins of fame. His book was proven false years ago.

          …It is a fact that the Labor Unions have been on the rise as the economic crisis worsens.

          Many see what is taking place in Detroit, Wisconsin, Chicago and many other places and do not always understand its relationship in world affairs. But what happens in Egypt & Greece can have a direct relationship to what happens in america and vice versa. This is why as a people we must understand world affairs.

          Well, the question may be asked how is what is happening in america directly related to what is happening in Cairo, Egypt that has led to an overthrow of the old regime or government. What does this have to do with the New World Order? Let me let you read a few paragraphs from the news reporters and then show you its place in the events to come:

          “CHICAGO (WBBM) — Hundreds of men and women in support of public sector union employees gathered for a second day at the Thompson Center in downtown Chicago for a peaceful protest of Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker’s proposal to strip unionized state employees of most of their collective bargaining rights.

          “It was one of several protests nationwide in a show of solidarity with union workers in Wisconsin, where the governor is pushing strict anti-union legislation.

          “Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker has threatened to layoff thousands next week if lawmakers do not vote to strip public sector union employees of most of their collective bargaining rights. Wisconsin Senate Democrats have fled the state to prevent a vote on that proposal.

          “Protestors at the Thompson Center said that getting rid of collective bargaining rights is getting rid of free speech and will ruin the middle class.

          “Big business and Republicans equal the death of the middle class. Wake up America, don’t drink the tea,” Adam Fielder, a member of Sheet Metal Workers Local 73, said. “This is about everyone, non-union, union. If our wages decrease, everyone’s wages decrease.”

          Those protests in Wisconsin are very important that link directly to what is going on in Egypt & Greece. Infact one protester made it clear with his protest sign which read, “This Is Our Tahrir Square.” (that is the place in Egypt which was the center of protest that toppled the old regime).

          Dont miss these important clues & red flags!!!

      • David


        I would like to make a few points in reference to EG White’s quotes that you have posted here.
        One; what does the Bible say about oppressed labor and oppression of the working people in general? I believe the gist of what the Bible says is that the ultra wealthy who have taken advantage of the workers will have to be held accountable.

        Two, what would Mrs. White or anyone think about the oppressive practices of Chinese labor camps? OR about 12 year old girls working more than 8 hours a day for a proverbial (actually closer to literal) nickel and a cup of rice? This is what labor unions were created for. To stop the gross mistreatment of workers from the hands of the owner class.

        Third, I am with you all the way on moving to the country and getting out of the cities. I am with you on looking for the 2nd return of Christ soon.

        Do we want to show the world an explanation / personal belief about why our economy is in the dumps by presenting these quotes of EG White?

        As a friend of mine who is not a Christian has elucidated; the reason we don’t have jobs is because they’ve been outsourced to wage slave nations like China.

        Perhaps it could be that the very first outsourcers did so to avoid paying union wages. But that does not fix the problem of outsourcing.

        Again, I hope and pray for our personel lives to rely more upon the Lord because we know these times are coming no matter what the reason.

    • the ragged trousered philanthropist

      Like you I’ve been preparing for 3 or 4 years and I am also writing a diary and survival guide as well.
      Just like you too, my friends think I’m a doom-monger and a bit crazy, BUT the more I’ve researched and written the more it CONVINCES me otherwise.
      Watch Michael Ruppert’s “Collapse” and you will see that when the bear attacks the campsite YOU are faster than the slowest camper.
      Just like you I know it’s not going to get any easier, but we have bought time and gained knowledge and experience.
      We are ALL going to have to adjust to live in a completely different world and the likes of us who have made some provisions will adjust easier.
      Ruppert also mentions his search for the hundredth monkey. You must try and find like minded individuals and re-inforce ties with them.
      Napoleon said “Alway reinforce a victory – Never reinforce a defeat”.
      So concentrate on your successes and rejoice in them and you will get more and more. Disregard your failures and you will find you get less and less. I have found this to be a maxim. Give it a go! JB the RTP

    • armel

      Here’s one to lighten the mood…we just drove through a truck stop in Alabama….my husband went in to use the bathroom and came back out to the truck, pulled out his iPhone and said “You gotta see THIS!!”

      I thought OH NO! what could he have possibly taken a photo of in a mens room bathroom stall that I would want to see?!

      Apparently, someone had carved into the metal above the paper toilet seat liner box the following: “Obama Hats”

      You know it’s bad when even the South Birmingham crowd turns on the guy!!!

  • Washington

    Dow Chemical Earnings Leak, Management Announces 2,400 Layoffs, Blames Economy Ernest Scheyder, Reuters | Oct. 24, 2012

  • bobinsherwood

    The movie to which you are referring may be ‘Rollover’ with Jane Fonda, Kris Kristofferson, and Hume Cronyn. These stories/present predicament are all just a re-telling of the ‘Ant and the Grasshopper’. Grasshoppers are ‘Party all the time’ redistribution-suckers. Now the (Kondratieff)Winter is coming again and the Ants are organized, well-stocked, armed, and warm. Sucks to be a Grasshopper.

  • 10% Flat tax for all(individuals and corporations). No exceptions , no exemptions.3 lines on a post card.
    Study Bulgaria , its booming.
    Slowly cut ALL govt. spending by 5% over the next 10 years.Close at least half the foreign military bases, tariffs of 10% on all imported goods, FOR A START……

    • Gay Veteran

      the flat tax would be grossly unfair to the middle class and working poor who must spend most of their money just to survive

      • SD

        Wrong as usual Ghey. Most lower middle class individuals/families fall in the 15% range currently. How will a 10% flat rate be “grossly unfair” if their tax burden is lowered 5%??

        • Gay Veteran

          and what of people too poor to pay the 15% range???

      • My Generation

        Why is that anyone elses problem? I am willing to pay 10% if EVERYBODY does.

    • Taxman

      As a tax preparer, I can tell you that many middle income folks are in the 15-25% tax bracket of taxable income. Many six-figured incomes are somehow only in the 15% bracket. Nearly ALL low income families have no taxable income and the rest of low income pay little or no taxes with many receiving credits in great amounts!!! Income tax is not a problem for low income families… it’s all the OTHER taxes that are an excessive burden.

      Due to low income, I had no taxable income to pay income taxes… and yet nearly 30% of my income was lost to other taxes!!!! This includes other withholding taxes(social security and medicare taxes), sales taxes, excise taxes, and other tax fees (vehicle fees, license fees, utility fees, etc.)all of which have gotten totally out of hand!!!

      The 10% flat tax across the board should be MORE than sufficient to cover ALL taxes currently held from all income. But it is shameful that if you earn enough, you can be exempt from other withholding taxes!!!

      Low income families would indeed suffer from such a flat tax system… it would add another 10% to the already burdening taxes I now pay. But I see no reason that low income and impoverished families should have to pay ANY such income withholding taxes.

      • DL.

        Really? Fact is is ALL Americans, even the one percent, paid 100 percent of their incomes to taxes, the national debt would still never be paid off.

  • Mondobeyondo

    I’m back, albeit on a short term basis.
    Hopefully by Friday, I’ll get the power restored. Will try to get a loan or something. But I do have my gas and water restored, and as Meat Loaf would sing, “Two out of three ain’t bad!”

    Michael, I haven’t had a chance to read the email you sent me, but will do so as soon as I can.

    Some people I’d like to thank:
    – My next door neighbor Bob, for allowing me to charge my laptop
    – Jesus Christ, for helping me get through this Personal Crisis
    – Everyone on this blog who has sent me messages of concern.

    It’s going to be another dark night. Not stormy. Just dark.

    • Michael

      At least you have gas and water. That is good. But once the sun goes down I am sure things are not pleasant.

      Hopefully we can chat soon. I want to bounce some ideas around.


      • Mondobeyondo

        Thank you Michael.


      • Mondobeyondo

        Will check my Yahoo emails after I log off ofo here.
        Thanks Michael!

      • the ragged trousered philanthropist

        I’ve just replied to Anna44’s post and have then come to yours.

        WELCOME to the post oil world Mondobeyondo before you know it most of us will be your predicament (if we’re still here at all)and will have to become accustomed to worse privations,
        You are a pioneer, America was “built” by pioneers.
        Try and see the positives (victories).
        You are a trailblazer and are ahead of the general game, learn from what you are experiencing and learn to adapt. (Seems like you have and are anyway, but nil desperandum)
        Most of us will be in your situation sooner rather than later and will also have to adapt or die.

        It would be good if we could be alerted when our posts are answered so a dialogue could be started, what do you think?

      • jayjay

        When our electricity failed one evening, my husband said he just knew from the main highway looking into our little culdesac that the only hoouse lit with lanterns was ours.
        I even went to all sides of my house with my headlamp(must have one for hands free)and lit up all sides of my yard!!!!:-)
        I have candles, 3 lanterns, headlamps, lots of matches and lots of lantern oil.Heck, you can make a lantern with shoelaces, lantern oil, and a pint canning jar.
        11 gallons of coleman fuel for cooking too.
        Bring It!!

        • Paul

          Why do you need lanterns around the yard at night? Just leave it dark. Have flood lights with motion sensors instead. Use the new ones with LED, that use a fraction of the power of a halogen lamp.

    • OLdFART

      Americans don’t realize how long a night actually is because they have never spent a whole night without electricity.

      • My Generation

        Some of us have. My parents did not pay their bills when I was young (80s really were hard) so I know what it is like to have no electric and have to heat water by fire for a month, sometimes more since we lived in a house for 5 months before the gas was ever turned on due to being broken lines. Not all of us are spoiled.

    • J.J.C.

      God bless you Mondo.

      Many of us have been there I know its scary. You are in our prayers.

  • Mondobeyondo

    [Windows is now loading updates]

    Oh please… nooooo! Not now!

    I need to conserve power! Uggghhhh.

    Hope to be back online tomorrow, if not then, surely by Friday or Saturday.

    • DownWithLibs

      That’s the Mondo we all know and love. Hang in there buddy and keep up the humor. It really does help! 😉

    • Paul

      You can switch the updates to manual, didn’t you know?

      I just switched to linux. Loads faster, shuts down faster, saves energy.

  • Mondobeyondo

    “We were meant to live for so much more
    But we lost ourselves”**

    That pretty much sums up America in 2012.
    ** Switchfoot, “Meant to Live”

    (I used to play that song when I was performing in my church’s youth group rock band 8 years ago. If you are a guitarist, and if you know string bends well, it is not a hard song to play. But it is in “drop D” – tune the top E string down to D. Easy-cheesy. Piece of cake.

    P.S. It sure is nice to have hot water!!

    • Michael

      Is your power back on Mondo?


      • Mondobeyondo

        No, it is not.

        8:16 right now. If I can make it until the next 12 hours (Sunrise! Woo-hoo!!!), I should be good.


        • Mondobeyondo

          What am I going to do with all this spoiled food??

    • RainyDay

      Praying for you in Arizona Mondo. Keep confessing the word…I say Psalm 91 before bed and when I wake up. It’s powerful. I pray that God blesses you and that your financial situation improves and that God will send people to help u. I was without money to pay the gas bill and the cupboard was almost empty…I asked an aqaintance if she knew of anyone that would need their house cleaned and she said her elderly mother would…so I drive over to her house and her mom hands me an envelope and said she didn’t need help cleaning…so I went back to the car and opened the envelope and there was $140 in it. I cried and thanked God and drive immediately over to where this lady worked and told her thank you over and over. I’m praying God will send angels like this to all people in need. God bless you.

      • My Generation

        Awe, you made me cry! That was so sweet. I love it when God does things like this. It gives me strength. Thanks for sharing.

  • Lazy Ike

    57% of the children in the USA are living in poverty. This means that impoverished mothers are having most of the children. Is there any wonder that the schools are unable to educate these children and that our country is turning into an apathetic and ignorant society that relies on late night comedy shows for its news. This explains why Americans voted a war criminal back into office in 2004. The Europeans couldn’t believe what had happened to this country.

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      Your namesake is probably key to why you believe such tripe.

      • DL.

        Spoken like a true neocon.

    • SD

      Where are you getting your figures from, the Obama administration? If you weren’t “lazy”, you could search and find the US child poverty rate is around 24%.
      BTW, who cares what Europe thinks of the US? Since you seem to be stuck in 2004, let me give you a news flash: Greece and the EU are on life support. Europe has ceased to be relevant, even Obama realizes the focus is shifting to the pacific/asia.

  • Mondobeyondo

    Battery is nearly drained.
    Bye for now!

  • You can’t talk about the economy and whose fault it is without talking about the TAX CODE. That is THE RULE BOOK. Without mentioning how taxes are assessed, you are quite simply “blowing smoke”.

    The US tax code favors businesses. Businesses are tax collectors. If you don’t understand this, here are a couple examples:
    1. Businesses pay employee taxes every pay period, providing a steady stream of revenue for the government–at the expense of employees.
    2. Businesses collect sales taxes from customers and pay those to the government. Many other businesses (resellers) do not pay those sales taxes.
    3. Businesses write-off the other taxes they pay as expenses.
    4. After businesses collect all this other money for the government and provide services that the government can’t provide at a lower cost, they are rewarded with a lower tax structure.

    So, if taxes are raised on these businesses, who pays for it? The customers. Rich consumers, buy everything they can through their businesses. That’s how they keep their money. Poor people get some of the money collected (about 10%–90% goes to government employees, government infrastructure, and reserve). The middle class w/o businesses pays for both the wealthy, and the poor. All increases in taxes help destroy the middle class.
    More government equals more oligarchy. Without addressing the fundamental premises of the tax system, rather than just rates, you can only destroy the middle class.

  • Mondobeyondo

    Stuck listening to NPR (National Public Radio) on my battery powered flashlight, in a house that’s as dark as night indoors.

    It is always good to be prepared.
    I was never a Boy Scout. But, boy am I glad to have paid attention to their motto.

    If you are prepping – pay heed.

    I. Wlll. Be. Back.


    • ScoutMotto

      I have lived by that motto off and on since the 70s, but more so lately.

  • Mondobeyondo

    “Whatever doesn’t kill you only makes you stronger:’

    I;m not dead yet,
    Bring it on, baby.

  • Jim

    I grew up in the 50’s. We lived in a uninsulated old home with a wood stove downstairs. On the cold winter nights, sleeping with your sister to keep warm was wonderful. We did not have a lap top nor anything else to plug in. The can house was full from the summer garden and dad had harvested the chickens and rabbits from the coops in the back yard.
    Millions of Americans will have to learn survival as a way of life as we did decades ago.

    • Walter

      Lots of municipalities have restrictions on chicken coops now. Same thing with gardens in certain parts of the yard. I guess wood burning stoves are regulated in some places . . . but that might be a good thing. If everyone in a major city had to heat by wood don’t think that would be very efficient and the particulates would be a health hazard.

      Back when the country did more public works, like the TVA, or the Big Creek project in California, they showed there need not be any problem creating ample energy in this country. Even though those projects still unduly benefited capitalists they were much better for the public than the current energy system.

      We need more socialized public power projects and more individual liberty re growing and processing food from local sources.

  • Connie

    I have gone through this situation. I was facing homelessness and to live with that everyday is something that i can not explain… It seems once you lose your job, friends, family everyone turns against you. I would hear things like well if you would just get a job, I was and still am trying.. The longer you are without work the more people look down on you, its almost as if you have a disease or something and need put out of your misery..I served in the military, i have worked hard all my life and to suddenly find it impossible to find work is something that well, honestly tears you down. I owe taxes, that i admit.. I was faithfully paying them on a payment plan until i lost my 60,000 a year job.. I found work making 8.75 an hour and had to drive 35 minutes to and from work.. I could not afford the huge payments on taxes that i had been paying so I tried to make arrangements for lower payments, but was denied several times…I was barely making enough to pay my household bills and what little i had left went into the gas tank to get back and forth to work. Then the state started garnishing my checks the whole thing! They did this on several different occasions and each time i would find myself without money to put gas into the car to go to work, I called them several times begging them to allow me to make smaller payments, finally they agreed, and I was to begin a smaller payment plan the next month, I worked some overtime hoping to be able to catch up on my household payments and make the extra money to make that payment to state, and low and behold they garnished me again…the whole check and when i called they said it was because the paperwork had not got turned in in time to prevent the i asked if i would be given until the next month to make the payment and they said no it was due the next week..well needless to say i could not pay it, i had no money to go to work it was a nightmare. Then the other day i read an article the government wants to put you on a no fly list and no work list if you owe taxes….omg! what can we do? I have already felt that these tax leins on me have been a major contributer to the fact that i can not get work..and now the government wants to pass a bill making sure if we owe taxes we cant get do we pay them then, makes no sense to me…
    My Dad gave me his fifth wheel trailer to live in and I tell you I thank the Father above for that… My life has completly changed. I read these articles that say to invest in gold and silver for the coming economic collapse, well in my opinion, those metals and trinkets will do nothing for you…Where you need to invest is in your neighbors and your family, doing all you can to develope a close bond with them. helping them when they are in need no matter what that need may be, weather its a plate of food or some type of labor project they are working on. That is where your real payback is, people are what is worth investing in…If I had not learned this when I did I would still be living in a state of desperation, but now I feel good.. I have absolutely nothing fancy, but I have fantastic neighbors, and a wonderful family…and I wake up everyday happy to be where i am… I have had no money whatsoever for several months at a time, but i have managed to live.. My sister brings me things at times like toilet paper and trash bags, and i will tell you i have a different appreciation for things. One would have to be faced with this situation to understand, but that gift of toilet paper made me cry..I was so happy to have it…I have learned that an act of kindness can do more to mend the heart and mind then a big fancy car..When i had lost my big payday job and recieved my first check at 8.75 i almost got sick…now two years later my sister gave me ten dollars the other day and she appologised she did not have a little more, omg! That ten dollars made me feel rich! They want us to blame each other for the economy, to blame race, to blame immigrants, to blame the rich, to blame those on foodstamps and i admit i do get foodstamps and thank god for that everyday as well.. This economy is imploding by design, this redistribution of wealth plan whoever is in charge wants for the world…And i fear that eventually we will see riots, we will see race aginst race, the rich against the poor, and we will fight each other instead of tackling the problem at the root…. This is my fear…I can live in poverty that is fine with me, but to think they might actually beat us and get us to turn against each other that is one thing that is going to be hard for me to handle…

    • K

      Connie you have learned much, of what is really important. That and your ability to adapt, will be a great help to you. If this is your first winter, in the fifth wheel. Have a plan to block off parts of it with old blankets, or something similar. If it is anything like a travel trailer, I spent most of a winter in. Keeping the whole thing warm, will not be easy. Just be careful, not to block off spaces that have water tanks, or water lines in them. Bet you can guess why.

    • Suzy Wong

      You are very adaptable so I think you’ll make it thru. One thing, you sound young enough, strong enough, etc. to head up to North Dakota or to Louisiana to work in the oil fields there. GOOD money!!! It won’t be forever, but short term you can make some serious cash. Watch out for the guys, they’re all animals. Get a job, a place to stay (not that easy, a trailer is best), a shotgun for self-defense, some allies, and make that cash!

    • RainyDay

      Connie! My mom is going through a similiar situation! My dad owes the IRS for back taxes and it’s not a small amount…he divorced her and his family for that matter, almost 2 years ago in Feb. The judge was awful and stuck my mom with half the taxes even though she gave my dad her inheritance from her parents to help him pay back taxes…anyway she isn’t able to work because of her health and if she does the state will garnish her wages too for back taxes. How can people pay their taxes if the stupid government makes it impossible for you to get a paycheck!!!!!! Tell me where in our constitution does it say we have to pay taxes?!! Its illegal and the IRS is a government run mafia. You are right about appreciating the small things. Interesting fact…in Russia, toilet paper was such rarity until the last couple decades. Prayers go out for u and your situation.

    • Kat

      No worries Connie. My husband and kids lived in a 5th wheel for 8 years. For a time, we had no power or water. We lived off of batteries and hauled water in 5 gallon jugs. The first winter, we had 2 feet of snow and couldn’t get off the property for several days. It was cold and miserable and scary. One winter the heater went out and we had to go for nearly a week with no heat while the part was shipped. We had many, many adventures during those years, but we made it and you will too. I don’t look back on those times and think “how awful.” I look back and see how faithful God was to get us through. We know we can make it though tough times and we can now encourage others to “hang in there.” The valley is only for a season and things will get better, maybe not right away but God is watching over you and He will provide for your needs. When you feel fear, just stand still and pray for God’s will in the situation. He hears you! Blessings to you and your family.

  • Andre

    It’s incredibly sad that such a mighty nation has come to this. It’s truly by the grace of God that I am taken care of in the little 3d world country that I live in…

  • Vicky

    Food pantries in our area are begging for more donations, as are the animal welfare people. My husband is still employed….I’m not, so it’s tight. I offered part of my garden to the food pantry which, very politely, told me they would prefer canned ravioli and peanut butter and jelly as their clients really didn’t know how to process raw foods. We go to Sam’s Club about twice a month and buy cases of soups, stews, chili, macaroni and cheese, etc. to donate, and I hope it helps. I offered to give a class on raw vegetables and canning, but have to give my fingerprint (!!!) and have a complete background check to interact. The background check is fine, but I’m not willing to submit a fingerprint, so guess that’s off.

    • RainyDay

      Same here! Food pantries in our area have empty shelves. It’s really sad.


    America hasn’t even gotten to the bad part. umerkins will think they have died and gone to hell.

  • Louise in MO

    Many churches have funds available for people who have had their utilities shut off. Check out the churches in your area. I know a single woman who found such help. You do not have to be a member of the church in most cases. However, usually these funds do go to their members first.

    The Salvation Army can sometimes help and if their funds ae deleted, they can often times give you help in finding assistance.

  • Another angle:

    When our version of Modern Capitalism began, most Americans had nothing. No electricity, no appliances, etc. Literally nothing. The goal was a ‘chicken in every pot,’ ‘a car in every driveway,’ robots and ‘others’ doing the hard labor so We The People could enjoy ‘the easy life.’ And, since the vast majority had nothing, the ‘experts’ believed perpetual consumption was more than just a fantasy.

    Well, it’s not. For the first time in our history, the vast majority has food, clothing, shelter, and tons of crap. We’re obese, both physically and materialistically. We couldn’t consume more even if we wanted to, and more and more of us are sick of consuming for the sake of consuming. Meanwhile, robots and ‘others’ do most of the hard labor 25 million jobless Americans used to do, freeing them up to enjoy ‘the easy life’… without money or purpose.

    Modern Capitalism succeeded and, hence, the Age of Over-Consumption and the never-ending greed-pursuit of more more more is ending. And we best figure out what the New American Way of Life is gonna be soon before we all start killing each other.

    • Walter

      The obesity is not a sign of wealth and good fortune. They are obese because they’ve been fattened up like cows on crap. It’s sugar and Frankenstein wheat designed to make them sick and make their masters rich.

      Same thing with the extra consumer crap. The only reason it’s readily available to America’s poor is because it makes some people rich. We have lots of consumer crap but not much of real value.

  • Gary2

    GOP Voter Fraud Accusations Suddenly Blowing Up In Their Faces

    Hypocritical scum nothing new here

  • lee

    i’m hearing reports in Houston of more people being attacked and murdered by people that real intent is to steal from them and if they happen to kill them, then that seems to be just part of stealing.

    IMO, the social decay of 50 years of putting whatever government decides is best over what a two parent family would decide is best or what reading the bible would tell you or going to church reguularly is showing up in these robberies and murders.

    The USA has been whistling past the graveyard for years believing there would be no consequences for leaving the principles that founded it and I know people that think that this is just a tough economic stretch and that the US will return to normal eventually. I think when the real collapse hits, a lot of people are going to see just how bad the societal decay of the people has become. We’ll see if they can turn it back.

    • Sunshine

      Yes, it’s indeed getting bad around Houston. Did you see where the security guard was making his rounds in The Woodlands when he came upon a man laying on the ground? He asked the man if he needed help and the man said he needed his inhaler. While the security guard tried to help, another man with an assualt rifle came out of the bushes. The man on the ground also got up with a gun and they proceeded to beat the security guard severely. They took his vehicle and crashed it through a gun store window front, stealing guns and taking off. It is awful when we have to think twice about helping others but you BETTER THINK TWICE these days if you don’t know the individual. Never forget the Tim Merka “Good Samaritan” murder case here in Texas in 1978. Regard for human life has only gotten worse.

      • DL.

        Lived in Houston latter part of 1975, near the Medical Center (off of Fannin and Braeswood), and I think that might be around the time things might have started getting bad. Couldn’t believe men there were the way they were. Result? I had to go back to Long Island! At least there you KNEW the men were just looking for one thing. When I realized southerners were the same I couldn’t handle it.

  • DownWithLibs

    Michael, What is up with this disturbing trend of children killing children? America is in a very bad way.

  • Rodster

    “Foreclosed family watches helplessly as craigslist crowds strip house bare”

    • Michael

      Frightening stuff.


    • Wally Gator

      Wow! Do not and I repeat do not ever post anything of value on Craigslist. If you are hurting for money and need to see Jewelery or something do it at a store or pawn shop. Here in San Diego crimes have been reported where people advertise diamond rings and such only to have a group of people show up and steal the item and even take more things. Also never ever let anyone in the house, my friend had two men come up dressed in work clothes and they said they were from the city water department and they needed to check things out. They asked the lady to go outside where the main water valve was and turn it off and stay there until they ask her to turn it on again. They went around the house unwatched stealing stuff like a laptop, jewelery, etc. all in 10 minutes and gone.

      • Paul

        Learned our lesson last year. After moving to England from China we weren’t used yet to the cheating culture here.
        Someone from the gas company asked to check the meter. He did and two days later I got a letter thanking me for switching the supplier.
        I raised hell and had them switching back. Since then we don’t even open the door for the postman. If it’s important they can leave a message.

    • Tel

      Don’t steal. The government hates competition.

      • DL.

        At least you could post that Ron Paul thought of this one before you did! He’s got a sign on his Congress office desk.

  • Washington
  • Wally Gator

    I see quite a few comments about God. I am a God fearing man myself but let me bring up this scripture: Psalm 9:17 – The wicked go down to the realm of the dead, all the nations that forget God.

    Have we not as a country and in large part as the nations of this world forgotten God? God was booed at the DNC. I think we are in serious trouble and if the end comes before we can comment again may God bless all of you and your families.

  • Going to get worse

    Looks like more bad news on the horizon.
    How long can we hold out..Days, weeks?

    Ford cuts 1400 jobs at UK plants
    Financial Times – ‎3 minutes ago‎
    Ford Motor announced on Thursday that it will close two of its UK manufacturing operations and cut 1,400 jobs, as the US carmaker seeks to stem its widening losses in Europe

    Colgate to Cut 6 Percent of Jobs in Restructuring Program
    Bloomberg – ‎7 hours ago‎
    Colgate-Palmolive Co. (CL), the world’s largest toothpaste maker, will cut its global workforce by 6 percent, or about 2,300 jobs, in a four-year restructuring program aimed at cutting costs amid slowing economies.

    Mass Layoffs Have Spiked In The Last Two Months
    Business Insider-39 minutes ago
    In precisely the kind of news president Obama does not want heading into the election, Ford (F), Dow Chemical (DOW), DuPont (DD), and …

    ‘Significant layoffs’ for Chemi-Con
    Jefferson Post-14 hours ago
    Longtime Ashe County manufacturing company United Chemi-Con announced to its employees today that there will be “significant layoffs” in …

    Turbine going through layoffs today
    Joystiq-38 minutes ago
    The Boston Globe is reporting that Turbine has laid off an unspecified number of employees today due to restructuring. It’s unclear how many of the 400-person …

    Nearly 160 LAPD jobs could be cut in City Hall plan, chief says
    Los Angeles Times-24 minutes ago
    While department officials would seek to work on “any and all possible solutions and outcomes,” a final decision on the layoffs will be made by Dec. 14, Beck

    Boomers Postponing Retirement Due to Financial Insecurity, Says …
    Senior Housing News-3 hours ago
    Job loss has been a major problem for many Americans given the economic recession, and for boomers aged 50 to 64, holding onto jobs has proven more …

    America’s middle class: An endangered species? hours ago
    The relatively shallow 1991 recession cost 32 months; 2001 took four years. …. Homi Kharas, an expert in the global middle class at the Brookings Institution.

    barely enough time or space to post all the significant news that a severe downturn is coming to all of us.

    • Mondobeyondo

      Halloween came a week early this year, huh?

      Are ya scared yet….??

  • Rodster

    “Man robs Church’s Chicken with samurai sword”

    • Mondobeyondo

      I can’t help but think of that samurai character that John Belushi played, in the early days of “Saturday Night Live”, when you mentioned that. Back in the late 1970’s, when it was actually good.

      SNL is pretty much a bore right now. It was decent 4 years ago, when Tina Fey and Amy Poehler were on the show. Tina went on to star in the TV sitcom “30 Rock”. Don’t know who Amy’s doing now.

      Sorry. That should be “what”. Don’t know WHAT Amy’s doing now. Yeah. WHAT.

      (in all honesty, I think Amy Poehler is a great actress. I apologize if that joke was at the expense of her integrity.)

      • Rodster

        LOL, I was thinking the same thing when I made that post. 🙂

      • DownWithLibs

        I think she is on Parks & Rec. I think.

  • grandpa

    soon youll be seeing roach coaches plugged in behind funeral homes in the morning

  • Paul

    Look, but all this isn’t new. I got a book more than 20 years ago describing the USA just like that – with a lot disturbing pictures as well.

  • Mondobeyondo

    What a difficult and challenging week it’s been. But, one pawned guitar later, in addition to some begging and pleading from the local utility company, things are finally looking better. My electricity has been restored 🙂

    I do miss my guitar, but I have another one (Epiphone Les Paul) One day, when I do find work, I will save up enough money to buy another Fender Strat. One major revelation: It’s extremely hard to play an electric guitar when you don’t have electricity.

    I’m back.


    • Michael

      It is good to have you back.

      But we still need to find some work for you.

      What kind of work would you like to do?


      • CatNap


        It was Mondo?

        Love you, Mondo!

        My 5-year-old son recently spent some of his allowance on a metronome! LoL

        From what I’ve seen of your posts, you’re very talented and personable. I love to look for your replies to this site. 🙂

        I’m praying for you!

      • Mondobeyondo

        Whatever is available…

        I’m a typesetter by trade (which is basically a glorified typist) but I do know some things about printing, CMYK and RGB colors, etc. More on the computer/tech side of things, than the mechanical end (as in mixing the inks, running the presses for printing, etc.)

        Thanks for any assistance you can provide. It is definitely, absolutely appreciated!!!

        • Michael


          There was someone from Phoenix who posted a comment earlier who wanted you to get in contact with him. That might be a promising lead.

          Also, email me back when you get a chance.


          • Mondobeyondo

            Okay, thanks! Will check that out.

      • the ragged trousered philanthropist

        Seems, that like you, Mondo’s a full time blogger.

        • Mondobeyondo

          Tends to happen when you are unemployed for an extended period of time. You become a full time blogger.

          I do keep myself busy though. I tend to hang out here, as well as jobing dot com, monster dot com, jobs listings on Craigslist (guess I’m not qualified to be a nanny…) – Google, to check where the latest job fairs are in my area… I think you get the idea. After that, I’m going to pop in the 1980 movie “Airplane!” later this afternoon. It keeps my spirits up.

          And don’t call me Shirley.

    • DownWithLibs

      Good to hear!!!! And don’t be too proud to accept help in any way. You paid into it, so let it return to you when you need it. Just don’t make a career of letting society support you. That’s when it chafes. That statement is directed at everyone. Let your taxes return to you if you need a hand up…there is no shame in it. This will be a very rough ride on the way down. Sadly, I feel like it is beyond repair. Here’s hoping to get a Pres. candidate that will at least slow the bleeding instead of continuing to saw through the arteries!!!

    • Mr. Moistpockets

      Mondo, your guitar pawning incident reminds me of the Bon Jovi song “Living On A Prayer” where the hero of the story has to hock his guitar so he and his young wife can survive. I used to mock him and think ” Huh! That’ll be the day when my vintage ’76 Gibson Explorer sits in a pawn shop”…but in the last three years I have stopped mocking those lyrics…and that scares me!

      BTW yer better off with the Epiphone!

  • Mondobeyondo

    Refrigerator inventory check time!!

    – Meat: Pretty much have to toss that out.
    – Veggies: See above sentence.
    – Eggs: Ditto. Don’t want salmonella poisoning. I can only imagine what tunaella poisoning is like.

    That’s all for now. I have some e-mails and Facebleech posts to catch up on.

    • Mondobeyondo

      I’m going to contact the folks at ASCAP, to see if I can get any royalties for writing “Happy Birthday”.

      (“Happy Birthday” is a public domain song. That means – if you play it on the radio, your favorite radio station won’t have to pay royalty fees to the artist and the recording company. That’s not the case with a song by Katy Perry for example, or Adele, the lady who sings “Rolling In the Deep”…

      I haven’t lost my sense of humor. Not going to, either… no matter how bad things get.

      “Always look on the bright side of life.” – Monty Python, “The Life of Brian” – I think. Not sure about that.)

      Still recovering. Will post more later and/or tomorrow.

  • CatNap

    Today I read the “open enrollment” for COBRA.

    No way can we afford that in addition to our monthly expenses, so we will have to find an alternative.

    This is the beginning of the descent into the hole, right?

    Michael, for the man you’re referring to…I’m going to pray for him tonight. It’s the best I can do.

  • Mondobeyondo

    “You can’t play the blues, unless you’ve lived the blues first”

    I don’t know who said that (B.B. King? Son House? Robert Johnson?)
    But it’s very true. You can learn the chords. Most every guitar player does that.

    The difference is, not everyone has the FEELING.
    Led Zeppelin played some awesome blues songs. So did Eric Clapton.
    BUT – they never felt the pain. Both were (are) very talented songwriters. But— they never FELT it. They played the music, they played the chords. But that’s it. So did Jimi Hendrix, before he joined the 101’st Airborne in 1961 or maybe it was 1962. Can’t remember. Sorry!

    B.B. King lived it. In order to feel it, you have to first live it. That’s why he is such a great blues guitarist. The last great one, in my opinion.

    I mean — playing a D minor chord sounds different, depending on your life experience. It’s hard to explain. But I’ll try. You put your pinkie finger on the bottom E string, your ring finger on the B string… oh, forget it. Can I find a bottle of Bacardi rum around here? No?? Yeah, didn’t think so.

    As I just said, it’s hard to explain.
    Play a chord when you’re down to your last $1.53.
    Can you buy a Mini Micro Mac, or any other McBurger for $1.53? No, you can’t.
    Now play it when you have $1,448,220.73, or something like that. (Is that your annual salary, Rod Stewart?) No? Oh, I forgot, that’s your DAILY salary!!)**
    It’s different.
    The first example in the above paragraph, is what is going to make you.
    The second sentence is what is going to break you – if you allow it to do so.
    “The thrill is gone… Oh Lord, the thrill is gone….

    (B.B. King, “The Thrill is Gone”) – do a Youtube search if you wanna hear it.
    I’m quite certain that is not Rod Stewart’s daily salary.
    But still… I would not mind having what he earns daily
    At least he can buy some eggs. I’d love to have am omelette tomorrow morning.

    • Mondobeyondo

      Have I felt it?
      I don’t know.
      I only know – these times sure do suck.

  • Frank

    If you come near my cache of food it will be over for you. I saved and put up food before this all happened. YOU didn’t plan for it.
    Go starve, its not my responsibility. I can only feed myself. Stay away.

  • Mondobeyondo

    Offline for a day or two]
    I’m doing my best.
    If I’m not online in the next two days
    Realize that a few things (something between
    three and seventeen) has happened,

    I will be back online and posting regularly

  • Mondobeyondo

    What do you do when the power goes out for three days?

    I can’t speak for everyone of course – every individual circumstance is different. As for me – I played the Beach Boys CD “Pet Sounds” (1966)* at least 4 times on Tuesday evening. The CD player was still working, even though everything else was shut off. (AA batteries are your best friends, in a time of crisis. Preppers, stock up on AA batteries if you can. Be advised though, they can rust/corrode on a long term storage basis.)

    I highly recommend listening to the entire CD, but my favorite track is:
    “God Only Knows” ***

    * “Pet Sounds” was highly influential in 1966. It was the inspiration for the Beatles to write/record their album “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band”. But I’m sure most Beatles fans already know this.

    ** This song was the inspiration for Paul McCartney to write/record the Beatles song “Here, There and Everywhere”, which is on the Beatles album “Revolver”.

  • Seb

    Here is my story.

    I’ll be 30 by the end of november, i’m belgian and currently living in brussels. I studied law at university and worked over the last 5 years in real estate in brussels then France. This spring my girlfriend and i decided to sell our company in the south of France since all competitors around where either going bankrupt or shutting down … this shows how things are doing bad in european real estate markets. We were to move in a tropical island where my gf had found a job and where the crisis might not have striken yet. I was to stay a little longer in europe to sell our company and stuffs. 2 months later when i was about to take my job there she broke up with me (our life’s been crapy for financial reasons no matter how hard we were working for the last 3 years, i was worried and didn’t take care of her). Since the island was too little, i had to refuse the job offer and decided to hit back brussels where my family and friends where living and where i’ve always had the opportunity to find a job within a week in the past … BUT things have changed. I’ve been looking for a job for 4 full months now. Companies fire people all around me, noone hiring and when someone is there are hundreds of candidates. I’m being told i’m “overqualified” all the time and that i won’t stay in the job if they give it to me, can’t find a single job even if i’m not looking for anything interesting nor good wages ! I’m taking tons of test for positions at the state but they’re just slow as hell (still in recrutment process for jobs i applied 3 months ago !)

    This is getting real desperating, don’t know how much longer i’ll be able to manage this awfull situation.

  • Kimberly O’Neal

    My husband lost his job of 20+ years to cut backs roughly 3 years ago, 8 months later his health declined of which I attribute to the depression he went through at not being able to find employment. I went back into the work force, or I should say tried… I’m a nursing assistant by trade but no nursing homes are hiring because the families are pulling their loved ones out because they cannot afford to keep them there, hospitals are not hiring because what jobs there are in my field go to nurses awaiting a nursing job and I’m sure my age (53) plays a role in it too. The closest hospital to us just announced it will be closing it’s doors on the 31 because despite it’s tries it cannot afford to remain open under Obamacare.

    We have in the last couple years armed ourselves with a gun, started a garden and now do serious couponing to stock pile for emergencies which seem more and more each day are coming. We have dropped from a life lived on 65,000 – 75,000 a year to living on under 23,000 a year. We have made cut backs in every area of life and hope for the best.

    We go to bed at night worried about tommorow, next week and next year .. you feel anxious all the time and panic attacks come more frequently with each passing day. I love the Lord with all my heart and I know He is in control, but am just human and one cannot stop the feelings that wash over them.

    I have children and grandchildren and am scared to death what faces them in the coiming years. We all lived in within miles of each other until my children lost their jobs and could find nothing here in Mobile, Al. so they moved to Texas and have found at least some work… something is better than nothing you know. We are hundreds of miles apart now and rarely get to see them as gas is also so very high. I have a grand daughter I have never met because we cannot afford the trip and neither can they.

    I know some of this seems petty, but it is a story of how drasticlly my life has changed but I thank God for giving us the know how to prepare in advance and at least try to survie, God willing we wont loose our home, it’s falling apart around us because we can’t afford repairs but is ours and the only saving grace is it is paid for….. but I know that can still be taken if I become ill because there is no money for insurance….. sorry I rambled but I think you get the idea of how this country has gone, the promise of hope and change? The only change is that all hope for a bright future and decent retirement are gone and no one can see any end in sight, Obama is succeeding in bring us down and I hope he and his croneys are happy because America is not!

  • whoever controls the system (state apparatus) will be the class that will be better off. If a few controls it, few will get rich. If more people control it, more people will get rich.

  • Randome-11

    The solution is to not only to have tax cuts for the wealthy but actually pay them to be wealthy.

    Also, don´t forget to blame the (private) Unions and pension plans.

    • DL.

      And the Middle Class and the Working Class and the rest of the 99 percent. Yes, blame 99 percent because the banksters aren’t rich enough. And while you’re at it, blame the sane folks for the rule of psychopaths. I am NOT being facisious here!

  • Jonathan

    Many post here about God and what he is alleged to have done for them.

    I do not give God credit for anything, since there is no evidence at all that he’s doing anything or ever has. What I do see however, is people, who are trying their hardest to get by and some that are helping others. But God isn’t even in the picture. I do not understand why people give blame or credit to God, since it doesn’t make any sense. God isn’t paying our bills, working at our jobs, helping our neighbors or leaving anonymous donations, people are.

    I also think it is terribly irresponsible for people to give credit to God (or to give blame). Our problems are our own. They are people problems, not “God problems”. Whatever is going right, or whatever is going wrong, is what people are doing to each other. God isn’t even in the picture, yet millions of people cannot see that.

    We are responsible for the world we make, whether it be bad or good. Bad people do bad things, good people struggle with that, but it’s not God’s fault, nor God’s responsibility, it’s ours. We can make the world better, more tolerable, and more livable if WE try, asking God to do this is rather ridiculous, since he’s never there.

    Many people seem to take great comfort in giving God credit, but then they utterly fail to give the credit where it is due (to the PEOPLE that helped them). It’s all very strange and does not make any sense, it defies logic and common sense.

    Then, when things go bad, they cry out to God, and some even blame God. Again, this makes no sense at all. God isn’t doing any of this evil, it is PEOPLE again who are doing evil to each other. And God doesn’t rescue any of the people either, if there is help or a rescue or anything good to come out of a bad situation, it is always at the hands of either themselves or other PEOPLE. Yet God once again, gets the credit.

    Use some common sense people. I know you believe in your Bible’s, but quite frankly you don’t know your Christian history very well. It was and always will be PEOPLE that are helping PEOPLE. The Bible emphasizes given praise to God, but you do need to put this into historical perspective, the authors of the Bible were many, none were as well educated as we are today (including Paul / Saul) and they were ALL superstitious to a fault. The Bible has gone on to spawn over 2000 Christian denominations, each claiming the “truth”, with hundreds of millions since slaughtered in “defense” of their “beliefs”. The justification was always “God” (and still is).

    Get a clue. As in wake up and accept reality. Our world is made up of what is REAL. Not some mystical, magical Sky God who is “saving” anyone (or helping anyone). You may still believe in the invisible, unprovable, mystical and mysterious, but by doing so you are abdicating your personal responsibility for what is going on in your life. You prefer to lay this all at the feet of “God”, both the good and the bad, which gives you an escape clause, ie., “the fine print” that say’s “it’s not your fault, your just being tested”. This is escapism and childish behavior. Put away childish things and grow up, what is going on in your life (every single bit of it) is your responsibility and none other.

    Your suffering on the planet is because of what humans are doing, not because of God or some mystical, magical, invisible beings who are playing chess with your lives. Those of you that believe this are unbelievably naive and irresponsible. You may be kind hearted, compassionate, caring and giving, but you’re actually quite clueless to the real world you are living in, and you are ineffectual at changing it in a meaningful way. Like Christians throughout all of history, you are constantly behind the curve of reality, unable to grasp the human forces actually at work.

    Your “comfort” in “knowing God” and giving him the blame / praise is your escape valve from this reality. Perhaps you need it, but so does a child with a teddy bear. One day, they grow up and accept adult responsibilities, putting away their childish things. You need to do the same.

  • BookMDanno

    No President will get us out of this mess because for about 30 yrs the gov’t has been a shill for business (that’s where the money is for campaigns). Businesses want all kinds of breaks…they get them…and wanted a situation where a glut of workers with too few jobs would depress wages (while businesses get breaks for outsourcing overseas). Business leaders had too much short-term vision to wonder, ‘what happens to our company…and our country…. once OTHER businesses ALSO downsize, there are no middle class consumers left, and we’ve inadvertently enriched our adversaries?” I’m a conservative, but recognize neither party has your interest at heart, money in politics has killed the golden goose, and talk of ‘a global economy’ was a smokescreen to benefit Big Business.

  • Washington

    Introduction speech of the NWO, George H. W. Bush from 9/11/90

    I am not superstitious or anything like that, but look at the date of this speech. Odd!

  • James Wentz

    One thing I have learned in my years on this planet is that contrary to what many believe, there is such a thing as true evil and it exists today. It has existed a very long time and is extremely organized, interconnected and exceedingly well funded. It has been spoken of in the past, even Woodrow Wilson spoke of it:

    Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.

    Just as people could not have conceived, nor were they cognizant of the true scope of the horrors of World Wars I & II and the Great Depression, so too are most people not prepared for the horrors we will go thru in the next decade or more. The destruction of the US social, education and economic systems has been a long and planned process.

    Our grandfathers would be appalled by the vulgarization, crassness and general stupidity of American society today.
    The USA has been set up over the decades step by step for the coming fall. From Great Society spending, to education policies, to the steady removal of post Great Depression laws separating banking from other financial institutions, etc… We are approaching the abyss and are ready plummet, and it will be a terrible time for everyone but the super-rich elite.

    When it is all said and done, Americans will gladly trade economic freedom for the coming One World Economy that has been preplanned for centuries. Most Americans today don’t live for anything more than the “Bread and Circuses” of sports, beer and whatever soft porn TV programs are popular these days. When the dark days finally arrive, they will be astounded at how changed the world will become. A good example is Hurricane Sandy, most people were unprepared for it. Stores were sold out of water and basic staples in hours after the announcement.

    Look at the number of people who (even if jokingly) made statements about looting afterwards. And times are still relatively good! Hopefully people will start to wake up from the walking stupors they seem to be in today. Times are going to get BAD, and you ain’t seen nothin yet!

  • dav1bg

    Maybe something like this, eliminate income tax and make up the difference with a tax on all imported stuff. Quit penalizing the patriotic who buy american and let the ones causing this problem pay for the unemployment it causes. Also tax products imported by those who have moved their corporate locations out of the USA to avoid taxes. THEN WE CAN SEE THE REAL COST OF BUYING FORIEGN KRAP. Get politicans to grow some b@lls.

  • winston

    These issues will NOT be alleviated under Mitt nor Obummer…..

    • Joilieder

      You are correct and that’s what scares me. I was just thinking of this earlier today. I only answer I can see (and that’s a maybe) is to get rid of all governments – Federal, State, County, Local – and start all over again BUT with the candidates NOT needing any money to run for office. Then keep the salary down comparable to the average American people that work part-time (maybe full-time). I wish that people with the power had the answers, but they don’t and are only interested in their own well-being. But as a Christian, I must turn all of my questions and fears over to God and live my life day-to-day for His glory. It is difficult to do sometimes, but that is my desire and I know God’s also.

  • Washington

    2012 – The Commission on Presidential Debates is a private corporation headed by the former chairmen of the Republican and Democratic parties. The CPD is a duopoly which allows the major party candidates to draft secret agreements about debate arrangements including moderators, debate format and even participants. The result is a travesty riddled with sterile, non-contentious arguments which consistently exclude alternative voices that Americans want to hear.
    This documentary also reveals the big corporations who “sponsor” the CPD and how third party candidates are purposely excluded. One of these sponsors, Annheiser Busch, is partly owned by Senator John McCain’s wife. Former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura’s election as an independent candidate proves that opening up debates can lead to real change – something the entrenched Republican and Democratic Parties don’t want to see.

    Who’s Afraid of an Open Debate? The Truth About the Commission on Presidential Debates (Full Version)

  • Hi Michael and crowd i just discovered your site and i am impressed first of all let me start with my background i am a mid 30 black man born in Africa that did my middle school in france high school and college in the usa. and now live in canada for the past ten years were i work in finance and own a house.What has happened to the USA is simple you are being turned into a welfare state and stripped of your wealth moral values and health. Obama is a catastrophy to both minorities whites and any one that believe in free markets. Second of all as an African, i know damn well that Obama is not an African American since hes not a descendant of slaves. the Blacks that follow him and are so proud dont understand that they have a lot more in common with any haitian or jamaican that they do with Barrack Obama, i know i am of African orgins and i can relate a lot more to him than to any African American we look the same but our backgrounds are completely different, sort of like Greeks and Italians are a lot closer to each other than to the germans although they are all (whites).i wish luck to you guys back in the USA because you will need it.
    Since the first world was created by the relentless exploitation of the rest of the world. the logical last people left to exploit are westerners. So if you want to know whats the future of Europe and the USA look at AFrica and Latin America or any country looted by the bilderberg gangs and the IMF the blue print is simple step1) easy access to cheap credit 2)austerity measures implemanted because of “Alarming debt level” 3)puppett governement put in place to continue the looting and charge more debts to the said country. 4) repeat steps 1 to 3….God Bless America, you are right Michael, The Obamabots are mindless idiots that were groomed to be just that and as this elections showed us they are now in power with a mendate to dig deep in everybody pockets to help the poors… God help us All…Mark my words the USA will be under the guidance of the IMF before the end of Herr Obama terms.

    • Michael

      Very interesting perspective. I am glad that you have discovered the site and I hope that you will comment more often. 🙂

      And I want to apologize to everyone for the problems that site has been experiencing lately. For some reason all comments are being sent to the spam folder and I have to dig through and find the legitimate ones. I don’t know why this is happening, but I will keep trying to figure it out.


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  • stock markets are not as easy to predict, because it takes a lot of statistical analysis, to improve it, so you have to know how it analyzes, and according to the analysis, taking the best measures of the case.

  • The building Lord, your noble sentiment so touched. Now such a materialistic society money could have seen the original poster such temperament middleman, no doubt, is my whole life the biggest lucky. Let I deeply feel the greatness of the human nature. A son of the building Lord, is in the dark of the night sky stab crack lightning, and like the sunshine of dark clouds tear, let me drink nectar as a moment, let me understand eternal truth in this world there is real. Only the building Lord that have broad mind and the complete knowledge system can be only one preface of this truth. Saw a son of the building Lord, I sank into the serious thinking. I think, if not the son of the building Lord top up, is a betrayal of the truth, is the great compromise on fallacy. Therefore, I decided to no top!

  • reality check

    Every society has poor people.

    Most Americans are sitting there at their do-nothing jobs, getting big pay checks to do nothing, then come home to:

    Big houses.
    Big televisions.
    Big boobies.

    and relax on a big couch, eat big plates, and grow more obese by the second.

    Not to mention the big vacation for two weeks, twice a year.

    America = Big, fat, lazy, useless people, who are rich for doing nothing.

    • JhoffaX

      Whine a little more, brah.. With feeling this time.

  • andrea289

    Just found your site. Wow I’m totally overwhelm with the info. I’m currently living paycheck to paycheck as a single parent with two kids. I haven’t been on welfare but things got very, very close. I’m downsizing and stretching every penny. I’m biggest debt – student loans. In the last couple of years I’ve really noticed how bad things are getting. My grandma always said learn the old ways you never know when you may need them. I thought about that last night while I was hand washing clothes in the bathtub. Then hanging them to dry.

  • mary

    i want to say a very big thanks and appreciation to chief priest Great OGUNA for bringing back my husband who left i and the kids for almost three months within the space of five days after following all instruction given to me. i am very much grateful for restoring peace in my marital home’ i pray God almighty give you the strength and wisdom to help more people having similar problem like mine,for help you can CONTACT HIM on this

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