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All Over America, Government Officials Are Cracking Down On Preppers

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Police State Big Brother Prison Grid - Public DomainWhy would the government want to punish people that are just trying to work hard, become more self-sufficient and take care of their families?  There are approximately 3 million preppers in the United States today, and often they appear to be singled out for punishment by bureaucratic control freaks that are horrified at the thought that there are families out there that actually want to try to become less dependent on the system.  So if you use alternative methods to heat your home, or if you are not connected to the utility grid, or if you collect rainwater on your property, or if you believe that parents should have the ultimate say when it comes to health decisions for their children, you could become a target for overzealous government enforcers.  Once upon a time, America was the land of the free and the home of the brave, but now we are being transformed into a socialist police state where control freak bureaucrats use millions of laws, rules and regulations to crack down on anyone that dares to think for themselves.

For example, people have been burning wood to heat their homes since this country began.  And this is still very common in rural areas.  But the Obama administration does not like this at all.  The Obama bureaucrats at the EPA fear that our little wood stoves may be contributing to “global warming”, so they have outlawed the production and sale of 80 percent of the wood stoves that are currently in use.  The following comes from a recent Forbes article

It seems that even wood isn’t green or renewable enough anymore. The EPA has recently banned the production and sale of 80 percent of America’s current wood-burning stoves, the oldest heating method known to mankind and mainstay of rural homes and many of our nation’s poorest residents. The agency’s stringent one-size-fits-all rules apply equally to heavily air-polluted cities and far cleaner plus typically colder off-grid wilderness areas such as large regions of Alaska and the American West.

While EPA’s most recent regulations aren’t altogether new, their impacts will nonetheless be severe. Whereas restrictions had previously banned wood-burning stoves that didn’t limit fine airborne particulate emissions to 15 micrograms per cubic meter of air, the change will impose a maximum 12 microgram limit. To put this amount in context, EPA estimates that secondhand tobacco smoke in a closed car can expose a person to 3,000-4,000 micrograms of particulates per cubic meter.

Most wood stoves that warm cabin and home residents from coast-to-coast can’t meet that standard. Older stoves that don’t cannot be traded in for updated types, but instead must be rendered inoperable, destroyed, or recycled as scrap metal.

Does that make you angry?

It should.

There are other preppers that try to use very “clean” methods to power their homes, but that is still not good enough for some government control freaks.

For example, one prepper down in south Florida that had gone “off the grid” was recently ordered by a court to connect back to the grid or face eviction from his home.  The following is an excerpt from a recent article by Guiles Hendrik

Think you are still free to make choices in your life? Do you think the government will allow you to live independent of their utility monopolies? If you think so, try opting for renewable non-grid tied power and utilize environmentally friendly composting toilets and your own self-sufficient water supply. Today, those life choices could land you in jail if you live in South Florida. Take the case of Robin Speronis.

Robin Speronis has lived off the grid, independent of the city’s water and electric system. A Florida court ruled this off-the-grid living illegal last week and has given Robin until March to connect her home to a municipal water line or face possible eviction. Further, officials in the city of Cape Coral have justified this by deeming Robin’s home “unsanitary,” citing the International Property Maintenance Code. First of all, since when did we begin to locally recognize “international codes?” Where in the US Constitution does it provide for international jurisdiction over local codes? Ironically, this “international” code mandates that homes be connected to an electricity grid and a running water source, even though most of the world lives without reliable electricity and municipal water and sewer. Further, the code is outdated and obsolete because it was written without consideration to both old and new technologies that relegate the need for grid tied power and municipal water as unnecessary and expensive; especially, in locations where it simply isn’t feasible to have grid tied utilities. Nonetheless, Speronis’ home does in fact have power and water through far cheaper and more environmentally friendly means — solar panels and rainwater, but that reality is ignored by the local government.

Incredibly, most Americans still seem to believe that we live in a “free country”.  But we don’t.  Our lives are very tightly constrained by literally millions of laws, rules and regulations, and more are being added every single day.

Even some of our most basic fundamental rights have been seriously eroded.  One of these is the right to make basic health decisions for our own children.  In New York state, children that have not received all of the designated vaccines can now be banned from attending public school, and this requirement was recently upheld by a federal appeals court

New York state’s requirement that children be vaccinated before attending public school does not violate their constitutional rights, a federal appeals court in Manhattan said on Wednesday.

In affirming the requirement’s constitutionality, a three-judge panel of the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals also upheld a previous ruling by a federal judge that students exempted from the requirement for religious reasons can be barred from school when another child has a disease preventable by a vaccine.

The decision was the latest to go against three parents from New York City who say their religious rights were violated when their children were kept out of school as a result of the immunization policies. The parents’ lawyer, Patricia Finn, said her clients planned to appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.

So what are we free to do without government interference these days?

Not much.

In fact, in some states we can’t even sit on our own land and collect the rain as it falls from the sky for our own personal use.

If you do this in the state of Oregon, for example, you could go to prison

Gary Harrington, the Oregon man convicted of collecting rainwater and snow runoff on his rural property surrendered Wednesday morning to begin serving his 30-day, jail sentence in Medford, Ore.

“I’m sacrificing my liberty so we can stand up as a country and stand for our liberty,” Harrington told a small crowd of people gathered outside of the Jackson County (Ore.) Jail.

Several people held signs that showed support for Harrington as he was taken inside the jail.

And of course these are just a few examples.  Almost every single day there are more stories in the news about government bureaucrats cracking down on preppers.  They almost seem to relish the opportunity to go after the “non-conformists”.

But the good news is that the number of Americans that are seeking to become less dependent on the system just continues to grow.

So what about you?

Are you a prepper?

My friend Daisy Luther recently wrote a piece entitled “45 MORE Signs That You Might Be One of Those Crazy Preppers“.  The following are some of the most interesting “signs” from her list…

*You spend your days off digging an underground bunker in your backyard.

*Your family doesn’t dare take something from the food stockpile without marking it off the list.

*Your kids know how to don a gas mask in 30 seconds.

*Everyone in your survival group carries the same firearm so that ammo is standardized.

*Your family is no longer surprised when you announce, “Hey, we’re going to learn how to make (insert anything here)!”

*You have long since accepted the idea that if you’re not on someone’s list, you’re probably not doing it right.

*You don’t just rotate food, you rotate ammo.

*Moving to a new house is no longer “moving”, but “strategic relocation”.

*Your kids think it’s a fun game to see who can find the most potential weapons in a room.

*Your EDC includes a knife, firearm w/extra mag, flashlight, mylar blanket, Chapstick, and an ounce of silver — and that’s just for when you’re walking the dog.

*One criterion for your new winter coat is that it fits over your body armor.

You can read her entire article right here.

America was built by people that loved their families, worked hard and were self-sufficient.

Now our government is specifically targeting those kinds of people.

What in the world is happening to us?

  • K

    Most of the preppers who are having trouble have made one of two possible mistakes. They live within a city limit, or they live on a public road. The trick is to live in the county, far enough down a private road, that your property can not even be seen. Not foolproof, but it helps.

    • Douglas M. Green

      Drones will fix that.

      • Mark Are

        50 cals will fix the drones

        • kfilly

          You probably won’t even see the predator drone or whatever else they have. It would monitor or kill you before you even knew what hit you.

          • packsack

            They will go after your cell phone?

    • stevesmitty79

      I strongly suspect one day soon, chem-trails will evolve into biowep-trails, making the “back road of a back road” plan compromised. But, you are right. It does help in a lot of cases.

    • jcd0101

      i also think you have to make your home as non descript as possible.. i personally think that you keep your electric and water hooked up – but plan and setup alternatives – this way you keep the liberals off your back – and your dont raise eyebrows – until crap hits the fan and then your prepared..

      I believe you cannot be conspicuous and obvious but instead must be
      (in an elmer fudd voice)
      very very quiet…

  • dontblamemeborn1981

    I’m thirty-three, and I can’t believe we have sunk this low as a country in my lifetime. I don’t know what any of us did to deserve this.

    • T.

      These un-American laws are part of the herding process in order for Government to maintain control. Everyone must remain in the system – That is the primary mission of our present Government. When the economic collapse comes – people will be herded to Government run feeding stations. Then sorted out into other camps for indoctrination or extermination.

    • Liberty First

      You are likely a beneficiary of white privilege. Hence you deserve enslavement and must pay penance. No kidding. Sadly, most of our issues stem from misplaced white guilt over the abomination of slavery. Unfortunately, it is placing us right in subservience as well.

      • Mike Smithy

        You are an idiot and you should stick with selling your claptrap garbage on PBS.

        • Liberty First

          Brother, I am totally joking. Tongue in cheek. Irony.

          If I were serious I would agree with our statement.

          • Mike Smithy

            Sorry man. I should have known you were joking.

      • AzDi

        Obama’s payback for white people coming in and killing indians, slavery and pushing mexicans out. Let’ see….. sure wasn’t us or our parents. But we “whites” are to pay for our ancestors according to Obama.

        • MstrJames

          When clueless liberal socialists bitch about past treatment of blacks, just say “if blacks were property with no rights, education or guns….. Who freed them from the southern democrats? Because all 13 southern states had democrat governors. After they attacked their northern brothers they created a new government with a democrat president!… So who freed them?” Then just walk away before they get flustered and begin attacking you personally.

          • AzDi

            Thanks for the tip!! I’ll use that!

          • Gay Veteran

            interesting how those southern democrats ultimately became southern republicans

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            It’s interesting that you’re parroting that nonsense leftist talking point that you know is a crock of bull.

          • Gay Veteran

            Malcolm is back! so the IQ level of the comments just plunged.

            and sorry if facts confuse you

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Awww, children say the darndest things.

          • Gay Veteran

            you’re right, you do

          • Kablam

            Malcom, YOU are WRONG. READ YOUR DAMN HISTORY!!!! Just because as a liberal Democrat you don’t like facts TOUGH CRAP!!!. It was the Democrats that were fought against and also the FIRST slave owner in this country was also BLACK!!!. That is a FACT!!!

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Ummm, you responded to the wrong person you dope. Gay Vet is the democrat claiming democrats own the mantle of civil rights.

          • Gay Veteran

            “… Gay Vet is the democrat claiming democrats own the mantle of civil rights.”

            you’re lying yet again

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            interesting how those southern democrats ultimately became southern republicans – Gay Moron


          • Gay Veteran

            riiiiiiiiiight, like those racist southern democrats in the 1950s didn’t become racist southern republicans in the 1960s

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Hmmm, there’s that lie again.

          • Gay Veteran

            you have a problem with reality

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            ..said the moron that’s parroted the lie over and over again despite being proven wrong…over and over again.

          • Gay Veteran

            oh you are so correct, there was never a southern strategy by Nixon and the Republicans.
            f-ing retard

          • Gay Veteran

            you’re lying because I am not a Democrat nor a Republican because both parties serve the elite, and I have told you that numerous times.
            nor have I said that the democrats own the mantle of civil rights.
            you just like to make s hit up

          • Kablam

            My bad. whoever “Gay Vet” is, is who I intended that for. I am thinking I need to change my alias to “Proud STRAIGHT White Male” Not sure why these liberal morons ignore facts, base their discussion totally on illogical emotion based on a view of the world that cannot exist given the state of basic human nature.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            No sweat.
            He’s the super special case on this site. He and I have had this conversation before and it’s easy to prove his claim a lie. He, like all leftards, just rejected those facts for ensconced leftard narrative.

          • Gay Veteran

            “…it’s easy to prove his claim a lie….”

            and yet you have never done it, but go ahead and puff yourself up

          • Gay Veteran

            since believing the left/right BS, eh

          • Gay Veteran

            since you reading problems, let me rephrase it:

            interesting how those southern democrats [1860] ultimately became southern republicans [1965].

            or maybe you believe that the Civil Rights Act had no affect on party affillitation in the south

          • sparksnavy

            Kablam–your last TWO sentence’s is a FACT !
            I read that also–the first slave owners were BLACK-PERIOD!

        • sparksnavy

          Obama is a very sick person!

      • Chubby Freen

        I have no white guilt.

        • Gay Veteran

          nothing like approving a treaty at the point of a bayonet:

          “…Following the defeat of the Mexican army and the fall of Mexico City, in September 1847, the Mexican government surrendered and peace negotiations began. The war officially ended with the February 2, 1848, signing in Mexico of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. The treaty added an additional 525,000 square miles to United States territory, including the land that makes up all or parts of present-day Arizona, California, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, Utah and Wyoming. Mexico also gave up all claims to Texas and recognized the Rio Grande as America’s southern boundary. In return, the United States paid Mexico $15 million and agreed to settle all claims of U.S. citizens against Mexico….”

      • sparksnavy

        Liberty First–
        You are sick and biased as can possibly be! White privilege–hardly–yes, slavery was and is an abomination–just be glad that your relatives were brought over here from Africa– and you can check the UK English) for that one! One cannot help the color one was born!

        • Liberty First

          I was being facetious.

    • Anon

      We chose security for freedom.

      • Private Name

        Whos’ “we”? It isn’t us here. We provide our own security and it doesn’t cost taxpayers a copper plated cent.

      • T.

        Actually the Government just Created new Laws for greater Security – All in our best interest you know. While each new Law took away more and more of our Freedoms. How do you boil a Frog? This what the Government is doing to U.S. The majority has not said a word.

      • tieman

        And lost both.

      • Northohio

        I don’t think it has anything to do with security, I think it’s all from the selfish society we have become and just vote for whomever is offering the most freebees.

    • jcd0101

      america has abandoned GOD and the biblical teachings our nation and its laws were based upon..

      So now its pretty much every man for himself and his own devices (and to a liberal) commie that means – controlling others …

    • AzDi

      I am 65 and very sad about what is happening to our country. But more importantly, I feel very sad and scared for people your age and kids today. When I was 33, I felt pretty secure although we had issues in those days also, but not like this. But growing up in my family was a wonderful and safe time. Our parents would say go outside and play and be sure to be back by dinner. No worries (at least for us, maybe for our parents) at that time.

      The other sad thing is people today don’t even know what it used to be like and at time time God and Country was everywhere. People were nice to other people, we worshiped in our churches and you never heard about people who did not believe in God. This country has lost its morals and this is what we end up with.

      • tieman

        I remember that America.
        And I miss it.
        As a kid I never even heard the word “muslim”.
        Almost everyone at least claimed to be Christian. Atheists were rare. Never heard of satanism.
        And best of all I had never heard the word “hussein”.

      • anon

        The America we knew when young is completely gone.

      • sparksnavy

        You are correct–one of the major things that has happened–is our education system does not teach History anymore–so the young ones don’t know or can learn from the past! The education system has been corrupted on purpose!

        • AzDi

          You are so right! It is very sad.

    • Michael Schaper

      We voted for goons! Got rid of God! Let the media raise our children!

    • laura m.

      No doubt the stupidity of my parent’s generation who allowed the UN , medicare, SS to control the masses, then my dumb generation who voted in both Bush’s, Clinton who allowed GATT, NAFTA in the early 90’s, then open borders. America is trashed to the point of no return. I could go on but only stupid idiots voted for Obozo the jerk.

      • LAWD

        Do you think voting otherwise would have made any difference?

    • Tea Party

      What we did is nothing. That’s it. Simply put we did nothing. We stand by while our freedom and country are being taken away by the “Obola Islamic Socialist Nation and progressive movement through Islamic indoctrination” and we do nothing. We vote knowing that neither party gives a damn about WE THE PEOPLE and we hope that things will change. We let Obola murder citizens of our country and commit crime after crime against our Constitution and Founding beliefs and we do nothing. We allow Agenda 21 to be implemented step by step and we do nothing. The people of the United States have become complacent and selfish. We care only about ourselves and we are getting what we deserve because we do nothing. We did not become the greatest nation in history by doing nothing but we will fall because we did nothing. There is only one way to stop this downfall and everyone is afraid to say it. We must do what we did to become a free society and fight for it. Not by voting and not by waiting for someone else to do something. We must unite for one purpose and that is to be free and our Founding fathers fought for it and died for it and we must do it again.

    • sparksnavy

      “We” didn’t do anything “wrong” this is about “CONTROL” POWER CORRUPTS and ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY! That is what it is all about!

  • PK

    The best thing a prepper can do is no to admit it or brag about it.

    • Mike Smithy

      This is especially true with your firearms and related accessories. Don’t ever register your weapons because it is the first step to confiscation.

      • Steph

        how do you not register your weapons? required when you buy it

        • jcd0101

          their are many ways but cant be mentioned here.. But a big clue is how badly liberals are trying to crack down and outlaw private sales – gun shows – and private collections..

        • Paula Gentry-Mann

          Depends how bad you want them. Move to a state that doesnt require registration. Nevada is one. Thats why i live here.

        • j m.

          depends on who you buy it from. Notice I didn’t say “where”.

        • Bubba

          If you have aging parents or grandparents that ask you what you want from them when they pass tell them ,guns, guns, guns. Legal to hand down and take possession of without a transfer or fuss in most states, unless you are prohibited from owning, controlling or possessing of course. In which case I would not suggest it. Just a thought.

    • I agree with you. The best prepper is the one who shuts his mouth in the first place. Not like those unwise on TV shows “advertising” how, when and what they are doing…

      • jcd0101

        i was thinking about that – if you advertize on a tv show you just opened yourself to either bad guys finding out what you have or the government bad guys coming after you

      • Mike Adams

        If you had a budget named AsEW?

      • stacky512a

        Kinda sad that one would even have to consider being quiet about something considered SOP back in the days of little house on the prarie.

      • packsack

        That right tell no one, because the un peppers will be at your door? Remember the old saying SSS?

        • sparksnavy

          Don’t tell your neighbors what you are doing, unless you are absolutely sure of heir friendship and allegiance!
          Remember in WWII the neighbors were telling on their neighbors etc. The Gestapo was soon knocking or kicking down their door!
          Just a matter of time that it is or will be here!
          Only in American can the deceived people vote in a President that is not a citizen of this country–check with his grandmother!

    • jcd0101

      AMEN – i read an article that said to try and NOT advertise your buying prepper supplies (or any supplies) for that matter.. I think it is wise advice as you cannot trust any – ANY government official..

    • MrApple

      OPSEC is everything.

      • SunwolfNC

        PERSEC helps too, but then again, we’re all here posting about this stuff so we’re all already on a list somewhere…so hold no illusions of anonymity.

        • MeMadMax

          Network Security 101:
          My teacher walks in during the first day of class and writes on the board: “Any computer or device connected to the internet is considered unsecured.”

          While I was in the Navy this was also drummed into our heads repeatedly several times.

          • sparksnavy

            That is true MeMadMax–we know they can read everything–“big brother” is reading and watching!
            Former Navy Radioman

    • MegaYacht

      As a 30 year senior military officer I have seen this coming for a very long time. Now there is little that can be done to reverse the trend toward more and more tyranny.
      A number of former senior and Flag officers have taken our families and relocated to several remote areas in Southern Chile.
      America WAR is coming and it will be unlike any in history. Biological, Chemical and Nuclear will all be employed on the American people. There is NO way to stop what is already in motion, you have few choices.
      1. Get out while you can.
      2. Mover to a secure and remote location
      3. Pray but remember “Hope” is what you have left when all else is LOST.
      Some of you younger men can and should stay and fight. just remember every War comes with a price. It could be your life or the lives of your family.
      Good Luck, the coming fight will be brutal and bloody.


        Hey mate: USS America crewman here.
        I served long ago from 1985 to 1989. I can see with eyes wide open what is about
        to come down. I just got back from Chile, we are moving our family out as well
        to a secure location in the Mid South – island based – Respectfully, May
        I confer with you?

        This American simply does not see the percentages in what is
        about to go down and I know exactly how they are going to do it now. You’re
        correct, there is not much time for folks. We have 2 ships at our disposal for
        long term use deep in the fjords. Please advise as to the best way to reach
        you. I know this is an open forum, but speak to you I must. We must band

        This is all going to get very messy in the coming year and frankly, I
        want no part of an engagement that has zero chance of winning anything but
        death and sorrow. There is no strategic relocation in the US – Period.
        Please advise to contact.

        • Becky

          You are right on!!! I have been seeing this coming too but now it is in our face and I need to figure out what to do now so that my family and I can safely get through this living hell that is knocking on our front door!!!

        • Karen Cole

          hi im just wondering where and what i can do to get out of here before m.L comes to get me and a few family members. its already starting if we dont leave now we will not be able to

        • KC187

          i will keep you and your family in my prayers.i hope to get me and mine out of here before its to late. m.l is coming out here any day and i am scared as hell specialy when you have no way out.

      • Nick

        Yeah how poetic! Us “younger” men should stay and fight while your generation has screwed the pooch to the nth degree! What a f’ing joke you are! Your generation is repsonsible for all the crappy foreign policy decisions, tyranny, corruption, etc. that has gone on for the last 30+ years in America. I”m 35 years old. I wish I had the money and pension to move to Chile! What a pathetic traitor you are! As long as there are young naive men to serve old men like you this country will never change!

        • anon

          Bitter kid. Don’t forget that boomers invented the internet, personal computers, cell phones, Netflix, Microsoft, special effects movies,
          among other things.

          • kfilly

            His oath to defend the Constitution never ended just because his service did. He is a coward. It doesn’t make a difference where you go. It is called the New World Order for a reason. It will be a one world totalitarian communist government. Go live on your knees slave.

          • T.

            Yes. For Americans the war will begin here first – Eventually it will spread to the whole world. But America must be disposed of first – The Old World Order – Because we stand in the way of their goal – The New World Order.

          • sparksnavy

            u r correct also—

          • sparksnavy

            right on—the AntiChrist is coming and will declare himself GOD and deceive many!

          • j m.

            You sound excited by this…you forget that he will FAIL. The New World Order is nothing but an effort to collect all of the ammo of the world to destroy Jesus in the Second Coming. All you Atheists better get a clue! You don’t believe in God, but are blind to Satan as well? You can’t see it seriously? What is the opposite of good? What is the opposite of right? What is the opposite of God?
            WRONG! God created Satan…there is no opposite to God. God is EVERYTHING…..dumbass

          • Deep State Infiltrator

            Clearly you have no understanding of the events that will unfold. There is

            As well, if you’re playing a game for all the marbles, then that means all options
            are on the table. No matter how many rounds you have, no matter how well you
            no matter how much BRAVADO coming from a man hiding behind the screen
            is going to change the fact that in each targeted zone, they will simply
            a bio weapon or a simple low level fly over and dust the entire area they want
            to effect.

            You’ll either be 1: DEAD from it, or

            incapacitated for at least 24 hours and they will send in pick up teams
            for to begin hauling you off to detainment in one of the now operation
            internment camps.

            You best get a real grip on reality, all of you
            and very quickly, there is NO PLACE SAFE in the US Period!!!! This is
            not going to be a war between the BLUE
            COAT Continentals against the Red Coats man. This is going to be a rout in extreme fashion.

            When – NOT IF – the power goes out, a bunker is a TOMB – you cannot defend a
            fixed position. USS AMERICA absolutely gets this and is dead on the money. The
            only ones that will be left alive INTENTIONALLY will be the ones who will
            willingly become subjugated. And mind you, this will be what is left of say
            maybe less than 10% of the entire populace after this begins and ends in utter horror say after a FEW YEARS of it.

            Mr are not goign to survive 10 Weeks as chaos is not containable. You
            must be far removed from it and even then, even then you will have to be
            provisioned in a location that can sustain how ever many of you there
            are indefinately. Yo usir don’t strike me as the type who can
            fundamentally make this happen. You sir are going to end very badly from
            behind your PC..

            You sniveling little cowards blah blah blah… Bravado does not win an
            engagement. Real tactical thinking and deeply well thought out processes are
            builds and in this case REBUILDS a society. Those people sound to me
            like they have a solid clue as to not only what to do, but how to do it.
            I only wish I could reach out to them.

            This is not about an engagement, this is about a complete RESET of humanity
            all at one time and it will go down like this. Take if from a man who has been
            in the military. Our capabilities and assets are in the wrong hands and for what we
            have here in the US alone is enough to wipe out the entirety of humanity many
            over. We have complete PSYCHOPATHS running the show who are not going
            to just GO AWAY. Not now and certainly not ever unless they are
            literally ripped out of office and incarcerated by the people. That is
            literally what has to happen in order to REGAIN ORDER.

            Those who are looking at intentional forced retreat is what I suspect they
            are doing in order to make certain there are cool level headed minds left to
            rebuild and survive.

            So let me ask you – what are you doing to beat back adversity? Tell us
            before you start ripping into men of clear and overwhelming intelligent
            prudence to ensure that those who are left are the ones to make the best go of
            it after this all comes crashing in.

            If I were you, I’d stop thinking with my testicles and start using your
            grey matter to figure out a real plan to relocate out of this nation
            before the lights go out. And go out they will. If it were me doing
            this, my plane to DISARM A NATION IS SIMPLE – SHUT OFF THE LIGHTS and
            let them rip each other to pieces.

            How do I know this, because
            if it were me doing it, that is exactly my plan. Use the human psyche as
            well as the natural human beast to unleash its predatorial self upon
            humanity in a survival insticnt mode.

            Coward, ME – no – the only
            sane thing to do in a completely untenable and totally unwinable
            scenario that is absolutely going to roll out like this is get the hell
            out of
            dodge before you cannot.

            Clearly you’re as frustrated as I am and as many of us are, however frustrated you are mate, it does not change the rules of
            engagement and in this case there will be NO RULES. Use that beautiful mind of
            yours and find reason and wisdom in this, you cannot defend chaos much like you
            cannot argue with blatant ignorance.

            It’s just that simple.

        • CarriedbyGrace

          And your generation will do what to change the course we are on? Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it.

        • sparksnavy

          Don’t be so damn critical–your butt would not be here if not for the “young men” of WWII, Korea, Vietnam etc.
          I am a “cold war” vet. am coming up on 80 yrs of age in 3 months–te timing of my birth and age not my doing of course!
          If you want to “go after” someone–go after the non-citizen Muslim in the WH and some other politicos in Congress!

          • Gay Veteran

            “…Don’t be so damn critical–your butt would not be here if not for the “young men” of WWII, Korea, Vietnam etc…..”

            WWII true. Korea and Vietnam only served the military-industrial complex

          • William Beattie

            AND, we will be there to teach and lead when the REMF brass is in hiding.

        • Kevin Michaels

          Chile.hmm? Is that where the Odessa hide.and control the worlds fate ?

        • scottbashaw

          actually its the younger generation that got Obama elected

      • CarriedbyGrace

        So powerfully stated, I wept.

    • Tvasquez

      Yes ‘cos when the day comes people will be knocking at your door for supplies or worse attacking you for them. best to keep it on the down low…

  • watchmanonthetower


    *The word ‘Barter’ suddenly enters your vocabulary; bringing in its wake all of the assorted implications thereof…


  • Bill

    Land of the harassed, home of the jailed.

  • DJohn1

    Outside of a court declaring such laws unconstitutional I see us becoming more and more like England.
    The bureaucrats rule!
    That the laws and regulations could not possibly be read in a lifetime is no excuse. That is how ridiculous it is.
    I keep waiting to see these bureaucrats try to rule places like Detroit.
    Until we get a better system of bringing these bureaucrats down legally, they will continue to create new rules in a sickening way.

    • watchmanonthetower

      Here in these examples Michael has highlighted – and many more unreported – we see the diabolical effectiveness of the UN’s Agenda 21…all this insanity in the name of ‘sustainable environment.’

      Better get used to it; like the slow, inevitable approach of a nasty squall, the first few drops in your face rarely reveal the full force of the storm to come. A21 is a velvet-lined and heavily spiked tool in the NWO arsenal with a wide sweep and cruel logic, devised, of course, ‘for our own good.’ Evil genius in motion.

      As far as the horror to come, we’ve only just seen the trailer, if you will; their Feature Presentation is just about ready…


      • Soosh Poosh

        This World is going crazy

        • T.

          Say “gone” and I double up vote you.

    • Lennie Pike

      Jury nullification or if not honored whatever it takes because I wouldn’t hold my breath on any court to declare a law unconstitutional.

      • T.

        You’ll hold your breath if “dirtondummies” is in the courtroom.

        • Lennie Pike

          Who is dirtondummies? – sounds like I would like them if they can influence judges to declare laws unconstitutional.

          • T.

            Scroll up the page about 8 or 9 posts from here and you will see his comment.

          • Lennie Pike

            Oh. Thanks. My bad. I thought he had been in the MSM news or something. Probably will be some day since that’s the type of story they like to give us, but that one would be ignored if possible.

          • Lennie Pike

            And that one of yours was a good one. Made me laugh post postly.

  • rentslave

    I still want to know why we can have one law for one state-Nevada-and one law for the other 49.

  • reasonsformoving

    I agree with the rule in NY. You’re right to refuse vaccination for your child ends when it endangers herd immunity and therefore endangers the public. Rights come with the responsibilities.

    • DesertPaine

      Refusing vaccination is not a right that can be ended. In the American system rights are bestowed by God. They cannot be ‘ended’ by man. At best, the court can only opine that the action does not fall within the protection of the right. Don’t think the difference is semantic!

    • Raymond Jensen

      What “herd immunity?” When you are vaccinated, you are supposed to be immune from the disease. Or perhaps “herd immunity” is simply a tacit admission that vaccines are ineffective?

      • PreppingRN

        There are some individuals that cannot be given vaccines due to allergies to some component of said vaccine (egg allergy is the most common). Also, there are some other people with compromised immune systems, recipients of transplanted organs, etc. that cannot have vaccines. To keep these individuals safe and prevent a massive outbreak among them, individuals that are healthy should get vaccinations…..not only to protect themselves, but also protect the most vulnerable in our society. Speaking as a medical professional (RN, BSN, CRNA) I can definitely say that vaccines are lifesavers and it is imperative that those people able to be vaccinated should do so. If people are too stupid to vaccinate themselves and their children when they are healthy enough to do so, then by all means the government needs to step in and mandate it.

        • Raymond Jensen

          ” If people are too stupid to vaccinate themselves…”

          You know what is stupid? Putting ethyl mercury and foreign pathogens grown in aborted fetal cells in your body and calling it a “lifesaver.” I call it a recipe for autism and childhood leukemia among other things.

          • PreppingRN

            It is moronic not to vaccinate. First, the idea that vaccines cause autism, or anything else of the sort, are ludicrous and have been thoroughly debunked. Wakefield was found to have made those claims for money, was exposed as a fraud and a charlatan, and has had his medical license yanked. Secondly, people that have no knowledge of chemistry are seeing these seemingly scary sounding vaccine “ingredients” and making completely ignorant and uneducated assumptions. They don’t realize that acids are cancelled out by bases, resulting in neutrality. They don’t realize that some chemicals are added as stabilizers during the manufacture of vaccines, but are completely removed from the finished product and are not injected into people. Then you have the idiots that don’t realize that there is a difference between methyl mercury and ethyl mercury. They have no clue that the bad one is methyl mercury. You’ve got loons that don’t realize there is more formaldehyde in a single apple than there is in a vial containing numerous doses of vaccine. I have no idea what your point is about the medium in which some vaccines are manufactured, as they are cell lines that have been around 50+ years. We eat carrots which are grown in dirt (the horror!) which has most likely been treated with an unhealthy dose of chemical fertilizer at some point during the last century. While this may not be ideal, I’m kind of partial to living and recognize that to do so I’m going to have to eat something that was grown in some yucky dirt. The benefits far outweigh the risks of not eating at all. Same thing with vaccines. They have immeasurable benefits and virtually zero risk (unless you have an egg allergy or something). If you are looking for causes of autism, cancers, etc. maybe the dirt would be a better place to start.

          • HotRain

            And Fukushima radiation equals bananas..
            Your government-shill posting makes me sick.

          • PreppingRN

            Wow….that’s certainly the first time I have ever been accused of being a government shill. I’m not aware of any preppers like myself that trust the government or are shills for it. No, sir/madam, I simply swore an oath to be the best damn patient and health care advocate that I can be. That’s what I am doing using facts, science, data, and my personal experience within healthcare settings across the world. What your illogical post says is that you have no idea about the science of vaccines and were unable to comprehend logic, therefore you picked two unrelated objects to somehow link and threw in some name calling for good measure.

            I’m going to assume since you said you were sick that you were referring to feeling nauseous. Try some peppermint, it is a good natural remedy for that. If that’s not it, then I suggest a visit to your healthcare provider.

            Please find some unbiased, verifiable, replicable, data-driven research and do try again.

          • GSOB

            I agree 100%

        • GSOB

          Yeah! Excellent post.

          • PreppingRN

            Thanks….so glad I’m not the lone voice in the wilderness here 🙂

    • Paul F

      If the other children are vaccinated and immune–why worry about a child who is not vaccinated? The answer is simple: vaccinations are a a hoax–poison injected into innocent children that weakens their immune system, therefore, causing them to believe that children who are not vaccinated made them sick. Chldren who are not vacinnated are healthier than children who are. Do the research.

      • Cyan

        I’m curious; how is it that we can vilify a vaccination (a very small amount of a compound) for causing so much harm in our bodies and completely ignore the medications, hormones, pesticides, herbicides, and industrial waste that winds up in the food that we eat over a lifetime? Making mountains out of molehills if you ask me.

        • Paul F

          if you’re careful about what you eat, bring the dangers of gmo awareness forward, then you can eat healthy, avoid vaccines, seeks natural cures, and live a healthy life (minus the chem trails being sprayed over your head, the car fumes in traffic, the germs you touch on a gas handle pumping gas, the water you drink full of fluoride, etc…). It’s up to the person to take the responsible steps for his/her health–and even though we can’t avoid every health danger, we can try to.

      • Knutekritt

        Paul….all vacinations are not evil or a hoax…I worked with a virologist at CDC who has spent his entire life…from the time he was a child in India who watched his family killed via starvation adn (disease because of no vacinations)…working night and day on finding ways to take down designer and mutant viruses..I worked in Virology as well…what is really bad is the additives in the multi dose vaccines…mercury, aluminum, stabilizers etc. They dont have these in the single dose vials, which cost more. I would never get a vacination from a multi dose bottle. I am not saying that some evil force could inspire dangerous additives to be funneled into the vaccines developed to help us at some point. Probably the sick kids after vacination are suffereing effects those additives…even a little mercury is toxic..any tooth fillings with Mercury are toxic…check out no mercury dentistry for proff of this….if your immune system cannot recognize the invader it cannot act….the vaccines are designed to “teach” the immune system to recognize and destroy the invaders…flu vacs are a crap shoot…may have the right bugs targeted and may not..go to Doctor Bones and nurse Amy site and download their book…love you patriots and we need to get ready to take care of ourselves without outside help—get out of debt now no matter how many jobs you need to work

        • Paul F

          vaccines are man made poison–poison that weakness and harms the natural body. the body can fend and learn for itself. in history, take the Biblical days for example, man did not need vaccines. The native Americans had natural remedies and were a healthy people. but in today’s time you have a vaccine for everything–but the body doesn’t need them. Natural remedies are the route to take, the healthy route.

          • Knutekritt

            Paul F, respectfully…where is your proof of this…history shows examples of when Native Americans were exposed to disease brought in by white people and they had no immunity to this and died…natural remedies did not help them at all…what was their life expectancy …if you can show me some demographics I will gladly change my stance on this…I do respect what you are saying and you must have seen some things or you wouldnt be saying this…share this please

          • Gay Veteran

            “…take the Biblical days for example, man did not need vaccines….”

            jeebus, are you that dense? ever hear of the Black Death?
            and to use your “logic”, why are our life spans so much longer now?

          • Paul F

            How did Noah live compared to the life span of man now? His years outweighed the years of man now beyond measure. my advice to you is to know facts before you speak.

          • Gay Veteran

            and what PROOF do you have of Noah’s age?

      • PreppingRN

        That is a load of poppycock. I am a medical professional and there is NO legitimate research that claims what you are stating. Vaccines are not a hoax, nor are they poison. They save lives, and that is a proven, scientific fact. And to answer your question about why we should worry about unvaccinated children: the first is because those children can catch an entirely preventable disease and die. The second reason is something called herd immunity that helps people that are unable to be vaccinated (transplant recipients, those with weakened immune systems, people that are allergic to some component of the vaccine, etc) and greatly reduces the chance that they will end up dead as a result of an entirely preventable disease.

        • Paul F

          Research shows vaccinations could be causing an increase in autism. Vaccinations are poison–that is why there is such a powerful movement by parents to bring awareness about the dangers. The vacinnaton program as increased exponentially over the years–the southern border is wide open, we have open ports that allow anyone from around the world to enter america, america is a breeding ground for germs and diseases, hence, the vaccinations come in. Before the white man came to America the native Americans had natural cures–and natural cures still work today. In my grandfather’s time they did not have vaccination–men worked hard and lived long and took natural remedies. I recommend all do the same.

          • Paul F

            There is a powerful movement by concerned parents to prevent vaccinations—we, as parents, don’t need man made poison created in a lab injected into our children. There is a growing movement that is revealing the dangers of vaccinations that is growing. Parents are becoming more and more aware. When your own doctor can’t name every ingredient in a vaccine and tell you the adverse health effects, then you have something to worry about–why should a doctor push a vaccine when he/she can’t name every ingredient and tell you the dangers? After all, he/she is a doctor, right? More and more people are fighting against the dangers of vaccinations and movements are in action to make aware the dangers. this is a fact. do the research.

          • Paul F

            Enough said. moving on. reply what you will. Lies come out in the end and truth stands.

          • PreppingRN

            Seriously, for the love of little baby Jesus, put links up here to the research you are using to justify your thought process. I really, really, really want to read it.

          • PreppingRN

            Okay, it’s been 3 days and I am still waiting for you to put some credible data and information up here…..Please, please, please put the info that you are using to justify your position up so that I, and everyone else, can have a look.

          • PreppingRN

            I AM the research. I’ve worked in medicine for the past 20 years. I’ve been to other countries where hardly anyone is vaccinated, and I have seen the devastation these diseases cause. It’s my job to know the research regarding medications and vaccines, and what you are claiming is just wrong. As for being able to list off ingredients…..are you serious? There are approximately 4000-6000 commonly prescribed medications and vaccines. Could you remember all of the ingredients in every one of those? No, you can’t. And if you can, then I guess you should probably change your screen name to Rain Man.

            Please, I am begging you: put the links to the research you are using to justify your position. I would love to have the opportunity to educate you on how flawed and inaccurate it is.

          • PreppingRN

            I’m afraid you are gravely mistaken. First, there are no legitimate studies or any data supporting the claim that vaccines cause autism. If you think you’ve got some, please post it here so I can point out all of the flawed information (high p values, low subject count, paid for by a vested interest, no control group, etc) Second, those natural cures sure worked when us Native Americans were given syphilis blankets (yes, I’m 1/4 Cherokee), didn’t they? Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for using natural remedies when possible but even the most dense individual has to realize that there comes a point when natural remedies just won’t do the trick. Lastly, why don’t you look up the average lifespans of people in the 1600’s, 1700’s, 1800’s, and early 1900’s along with the average lifespan today. Go ahead, I’ll be waiting with baited breath to see how long those previous generations lived compared to today. The truth is, these parents that are against vaccines are uneducated, egotistical, and narcissistic. That’s about the nicest way I can couch people that somehow think they are smarter than medical professionals and scientists that have untold years of schooling, research, and experience in this area and are willing to bank their health and the health of their children on it. These are the same people that think the Kardashians are quality entertainment. The truth is these parents are of the helicopter variety and they have latched onto some patently false info from a disgraced man that published fake data and had his medical license yanked as a result of his unethical behavior. They are so obtuse that they would cut off their nose to spite their face, and unfortunately their children will have to pay the price if and when they contract the mumps, measles, etc.

  • GSOB


    How does God direct all things according to their appointed end?

    In inert matter God acts by physical force.

    In brute animals, by instinct and appetite.

    In intelligent beings, by motives suited to their faculties.

    In His redeemed people, by the influence of Grace.

    Very good and helpful, don’t you think?

    Proverbs 21:1

    The Kings heart is a stream of water in the hand of lord.

    He turns it wherever He will.

    Nothing sketchy or vague about this in the bible.

    • alan

      I don’t understand a thing you wrote. Sketchy or vague who knows. Sorry just helping out.

      • Ian Beattie

        I think he’s trying to say….

        “For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.”

        Ephesians 2:8-9

  • Herbert

    Here come the lowest of the lows….

  • Icarus

    You hit the nail on the head. The sheeple will not wake up until the collapse comes. They will continue to bury their heads in their TV’s and iphones and their 15 minutes of fame on social media. Our government education system has developed a generation of idiots who can’t read, write, do math or think critically. 95% couldn’t find Switzerland on a map. It’s an easy life. Thinking is way too hard. They are very comfortable with it. They won’t change until their lives become very difficult, and that happens only after the collapse

  • Lennie Pike

    Hopefully this highly organized gang of control freaks (Fascists) won’t come up with a regulation that every day determined by lottery, a certain number of people will be required to commit suicide or be subject to arrest because many of you idiots out there will kill yourselves before breaking an uncostitutional law created by your enemy. Farfetched you might say? I believe it is illegal for you to purchase lifesaving medications from Canada and Mexico. You can’t sue an HMO or health insurance company if they dont fullfill they’re obligations that you have paid them for, etc., etc., etc..

    It’s called Fascism folks – these laws and regulations are paid for to eliminate competition in the marketplace and to force you to buy from the law purchasers and to buy what you don’t want or need. They don’t give a damn about global warming – they are creating global warming.

    A jury of your peers decides not only guilt or innocence but also whether a law is just, and whether the punishment fits the crime. Claim your freedoms, get arrested (or not) and fight this highly organized satanic gang (see agenda 21) – they are greatly outnumbered. Not guilty!!!

  • George

    You can count how many rights you have on one hand compared to how many right you don’t have any more.
    www. G-H. THRIVELIFE . COM and get prepared before its to late.
    even earn a little money at the same time. OH and most of it GMO free can you say that about your food.

    Question: Why would you store GM food if your trying to save your family?

  • Bill

    In 1964 I read 1984. At the time it seemed like a fantasy. Today it has become reality. It is now difficult to imagine that for me, after 69 years on this earth that there are so few that understand and are preparing. Complacency along with corruption, greed and lust have consumed the rest along with the many freedoms and happiness we all used to enjoy. For the few years I have left I will LIVE FREE or DIE trying.

    • smallergovnow

      I’m with you Bill….

  • PatFields

    Excerpt: “Incredibly, most Americans still seem to believe that we live in a “free country”. But we don’t.”

    That’s because people generally allow themselves to believe the original, ordinary ‘jural society’ of ‘The People’ which authorize government’s existence, has somehow morphed into what’s seen all around them. This is an illusion. All the statutes, codes, rules and regulations are actually internal to government and the unique members of its ‘jural society’.

    In 1871 an independent government was instituted for the District of Columbia, apart from State control, yet calling itself ‘United States’. By 1968, all State legislatures succeeded in altering their own Constitutions, defining office holders and ‘voters’ as ‘citizens of the United States’, thus making sneaky politicians and unwary … ‘persons’ … ‘volunteers’ to become … members of the jural society called the ‘United States’.

    But, so ‘judges’ could preserve their ‘honor’, it was decreed …

    “Whereas the right of expatriation is a natural right and inherent right of all people, indispensible to the enjoyment of the rights of life, liberty, and happiness … Therefore any declaration, instruction, opinion, order, or decision of any officer of the United States which denies, restricts, impairs, or questions the right of expatriation, is declared inconsistent with the fundamental principles of the Republic,” –Statutes at Large, 43rd Cong., 1st Sess., Vol. 18, Pt. 1, Title XXV, Sec. 1999. (1868)

    ‘Expatriate’ from what, to what? This is the question answered by the Kitchens court …

    “A citizen of the United States is a citizen of the federal government …” –Kitchens v. Steele 112 F.Supp 383

    “Citizenship of the United States does not entitle citizen to privileges and immunities of citizen of state, since privileges and immunities of one are not the same as the other.” –K. Tashiro v. Jordan, 256 P 545 (1927)

    So, in conclusion, the objective is for one to reorient one’s legal status as a member of the original, ordinary State wherein they make their inhabitance. This is the jural society comprised of the Sovereign People.

    “There are, then, two classes of citizens; one of the United States, and one of the state. One class of citizenship may exist in a person without the other, as in the case of a resident of the District of Columbia”. –Gardina v. Board of Registrars of Jefferson County, 48 So. 788, 790, 791, 160 Ala. 155

    • GSOB

      Philippians 3:20

      • PatFields

        Well, that’s certainly one way to get a compass bearing on the correct heading. Also …

        “The order of things is confounded if every one preserves not his jurisdiction.” 4 Co. Inst. Proem.

  • sarah

    The Federal Government has become like an abusive lover.

    The abusive lover will never stop abusing the victim voluntarily.

    Only the victim has any chance of stopping the abusive lover.

    If the victim does not stand up for self and put a stop to the abuse … why would the abuser ever stop the abuse?

    And, most of the time the abuse gets worse and worse as time goes by until either the abuser or the abused are destroyed.

    • Ian Beattie

      I would say abusive father. I am just too comfortable with my allowance and free rent to leave the house….

  • Aardvark

    I think the government wants us all to be fat blobs that ride around on motorized carts in the grocery store. Such a pitiful species many of us have become. We’ll make great pets.

    • jcd0101

      i actually saw this and i am way overweight – so this year – instead of becoming FATTER i am starting to go to the gym and instead of eating out – i am trying to eat right – try to loose some weight so i wont be a

      I may be 55 years too late – but you gotta start someplace..
      to all americans i say this
      Get off your butts

      • GSOB

        Good. 2 to 3 times a week. Push lots of fluid and get lots of rest.

        Exercise is profitable to your over all well being.

        See 1 Timothy 4:8

      • kfilly

        Good luck. A healthy lifestyle will definitely benefit you. Health care cost reduction alone is a good enough reason to start getting into shape. Depending upon what you do for exercises, you will want to go 6 to 7 days a week. If you are doing low impact exercises like walking, shoot for seven days a week as that is not hard on your body. Lift your own body weight. Things like push-ups, pull-ups, and dips will be the absolute best exercises. Heck, save your gym membership and install a pull-up bar at your house. Put that money towards other stuff. Walk or run outside. You can do dips with a chair. All of those exercises can be modified so that you can cheat if you can’t do them right off of the bat (knee push ups, use a chair to help do pull-ups). It’s free, safer, and you will see faster results lifting your own body weight than by lifting free weights. Just think what prisoners did after some jails removed their weights.

    • Orange Jean

      The problem with your attitude is not understanding why some people have to ride around on motorized carts in the grocery store…. and I am one of them! I have severe arthritis (spine and knees), degenerative disc disease, and lymphedema in my legs.

      IF I did not have a motorized cart to ride around the grocery store… I could not do my own shopping because of extreme pain when I walk or stand more than about 15 minutes. The last time I tried… about 6 months ago, just pushing a cart… I was in agony (despite using pain meds daily) about the 2nd aisle I went down and was not sure if I could even be able to get safely to my car. My suspicion is MOST of those who ride those carts do so out of necessity… and I BLESS the stores that have them available.

      Unfortunately, a lot of the same conditions that make a person use a motorized cart… also make it very hard to exercise, and it’s not uncommon to put on weight… no matter what or how moderate your eating habits are. Have a little compassion please, and count your blessings that you can walk. I would be happy to trade places with someone who can walk without severe pain in exchange for that motorized cart, that’s for sure!

      • Linda

        Thank you!

    • Hot Rain


  • jcrosby35

    What happen to us?
    To start with we let government take over the country and now we have socialism. Socialism is another name for communism. And the whole point of communism is to control. Communism wants to control you from birth to death and dictate to you everything from religion to how you live and what you eat.
    Wake up people. 65% of the children in this country are on food stamps. Or some other government controlled social welfare program..
    95 million people are out of work and many others are under employed and on some kind of government program to subsidize their living. Government wants to play god and in doing so makes you dependent on them. It is about control of the people. In the long term it will lead us to the socialistic NWO.
    When the economic balloon breaks and the economy of this country is broke you will be required to give up your freedom which (was) provided through your Constitution and Bill of Right and become a citizen of the NWO submitting yourself to their rule of law,(for the good of all people). You will be required to take a RFID chip so you can buy and sell and government can tack and control you. (All for the good of the people).
    The elite will rule and you will be given people chosen by the elite to vote for and govern you. (Their form of democracy). The illusion of freedom. You do what you are told to do and the government will continue to provide programs for your living.
    For further information please feel free to consult your Bible and read Revelation chp. 13 and 14 for your near future.
    Thank you, have a good day.

    • Priszilla

      And you get your knowledge about communism from your MSM whom you trust and believe.

      • kate

        Socialism is definitely about control.

        • Priszilla

          It’s all about control.

          Do the people control the government, or does the government control the people.

      • jcrosby35

        What a dumb, presumptuous comment. (Next

      • kfilly

        Socialism-rules so good that they are mandatory.

      • tieman

        Communism is so goooood!
        That’s why commie countries have to lock down the borders to keep the subjects in.

        • Priszilla

          Human resources are important. Don’t want to have them stolen. And stealing humans is easy with lies and promises of a great life, freedom, and gossiping all day, and opportunities …

          And in regard to unemployment, you know, people who want to work, will find work. Isn’t that what the MSM tell us?

          • tieman

            Have you actually lived in a communist country?
            Maybe they lock down their borders to keep the masses OUT….you know, so many people wish to be owned by some dictator.
            You must be very young!
            Gossip all day? Hmmm…maybe I’ll move to the island paradise of Cuba where life is gooooood. I have met many people from Cuba and they told me all about it. Some still had their scars.

          • Priszilla

            Yes, I did.
            And yes, compared with my grandma I’m very young.
            She lived about half her life in capitalism and tye last half in socialism.
            Capitalism cost her her farm and husband and sent her children to war and camp. Socialism gave education to her children and grandchildren and a comfortable old age.
            When someone from west europe told her:”I wouldn’t want to be buried here in the East.” She replied:”I don’t care where I’m buried, but I wouldn’t want to live in the West.”

    • smallergovnow

      freedom was given to us by our Maker, NOT the constitution or government…

      • jcrosby35

        Smallerovnow And the Constitution ratifies that freedom is God given and a right.
        Thus the government is busy working to turn the Constitution into toilet papers so people remain ignorant. The Constitution and Bill of Rights are there for you not against you.
        If you love God and freedom then get ready to do what God calls you to do to protect those rights. While salvation is freely given by God’s grace through faith, freedom is not free.
        Jesus Christ is Lord.

  • alan

    Don’t tell anyone or post it, and don’t make it obvious either. For example if your Mormon you will get looted automatically.

    • Ian Beattie

      I wouldn’t want my Mormon to get looted…

      • Bruce

        Mormon = Jamaican welfare recipient

        • Knutekritt

          better be nice to Mormons Bruce…they’re the first into any disaster area with supplies and the last to leave,,,better be nice to Mennonites also…they have the skills and tools except for best weapons cache

        • VigilanteCaregiver


          • Bruce

            More Mon

    • VigilanteCaregiver

      No, we won’t.

  • Chris Webb

    You ask “what in the world is happening to us”. Referring to a disparate nation of 300+ million people as “us” is what happened. Continually applying the concept of “America” to everyone instead of recognizing the individual as being free is how this mess developed. Flying the flag, saying the pledge, and believing one is exceptional simply because one was born within an arbitrary set of imaginary lines creates a collective mentality, and the greater the size of the collective, the greater the friction. The only way to freedom is to abandon the silly ideas of nationalities and to move to the idea of self-ownership. “America” is nothing but an abstract idea, and a bad one at that.

    • Ian Beattie

      Love your post, well said….

    • T.

      Not so. The United States of America is not an abstract. It was founded upon the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. That is, a Nation Governed by rule of Law as set forth in the Preamble to the Constitution of the United States of America. The Constitution is NO abstract document – It is the single greatest secular document ever penned by man and declared to be the Law of the Land. This Nation has been “Captured” by Criminals. They trample our Constitution under foot and say as “W” did, “It’s just a piece of paper.” The people of this Nation derive ALL of our FREEDOMS from this great document – The Constitution of the United States of America. Our forefathers fought and died to give our Nation that great document. I and millions of other Americans raised our right hand and swore to defend it against ALL enemies Foreign and Domestic. The United States of America has always been too powerful to fall to an outside adversary. The enemy now in control arose from within – Through the shadow banking system and Captured first the Executive Branch with all of its Departments; Then They captured the Senate and next the House of Representatives and Supreme Court.

      • Chris Webb

        First, I don’t think you understand what ‘abstract’ means. It is merely an idea or a concept, it is not a physical entity, so yes, “America” is an abstract.

        Second, The United States of America is nothing but a legal entity that is forced upon all of us at the point of a gun. There is no method to opt out. If you don’t obey the commands of the rulers, you will either have your property taken, be put in a cage, or get killed. The US government, like ALL governments, claims to own you; you are a piece of revenue generating property to it, that’s all, and borders are nothing but fences used for keeping track of its property (you).

        Third, the US rose to such spectacular highs in spite of government, not because of it. When the US was officially created, it had one of the smallest governments in history and that is the reason why the US was so successful – there wasn’t a giant parasite leeching all the wealth away from the productive people. However, as ALL governments do, they grow in size over time. There simply is no such thing as a limited government, there is only undeveloped government. No matter what fancy words you put down on a piece of paper, they are literally useless to limit government because it’s the government that not only interprets the document, but is also the only entity that is able to change it. How can a document be limiting when the very thing it’s supposed to limit is the very thing in charge of it? It’s a logical fallacy.

        Fourth, if our freedoms are derived from a document, then they aren’t freedoms, they are permissions. However, if our rights are inalienable, then we don’t need a document declaring them. The only purpose of the bill of rights is to fool good hearted but ultimately gullible people into thinking that government is there to protect them. It’s not, it’s there to protect special interests. Always has, always will.

        Lastly, the government was never captured, it has always been populated by people who used the power of the government for their personal gain. That’s human nature. Creating a system where it’s REQUIRED that the right people be in power for the system to work will always fail because sociopaths are drawn to power like moths to light. There simply isn’t anyway to keep out the bad people from getting those positions.

        I know you aren’t going to agree with me, that’s what years of propaganda like the pledge of allegiance (which was written by national socialist Francis Bellamy to specifically create an indoctrinated people) will do to a person, but if you could, at least try to step outside of your paradigm and look at things objectively. If you’re honest with yourself, you’ll find that most of your world view is completely upside down. It’s a tough process but well worth the effort.

        • T.

          There are a thing or two I agree with you on. First, The “America” I grew up with in the 50’s and 60’s is GONE. It was destroyed completely on September 11, 2001. All the unconstitutional laws that have been written since then have done nothing but destroy what freedoms we still had left. Therefore, I have often referred to our beloved Nation today as Amerika – which is nothing but a shell of and a bastardization of the one I grew up in. So, had you made that distinction when writing about the “America” I once knew and what it is now – I would agree with you. Where I definitely disagree with you is that the reason and the cause “America” achieved such greatness for the first 180 years of her existence is Directly because of the Constitution and Bill of Rights she lived under and our people prospered under. All one has to do is study a little world history both modern and ancient to see what blessings this Nation once enjoyed. To deny that is to but to deny the truth of man’s history upon this earth. That has nothing whatsoever to do with propaganda – It is recorded historical fact. I certainly do not like what our Nation has become just as you and I did not go off to a foreign war as a 19 year old thinking that this is how our Nation would turn out. But as I wrote above – Our Nation has been captured by very evil men and “Changed” “America” into “Amerika”. I stand by that – Along with my guns I have to protect my family and my property – To the Death.

  • Fiona, being a Belgian I share the same feeling as you, as many Belgians – It is probably a general feeling in Europe as a whole… Sadly I don’t know much Europeans who continue to see the US as a place of “dream”…

    I grew with an incredible respect for that country and all the sacrifices (their life, their blood, their swet) many people made 70 years ago to free Europe from dictatorship and fascism… and yet, I’m completely gobsmacked by the increased loss of freedom and moral in the US once the country showing the most wonderful example of a true Great Country…

    The USA is made of a resilient people, but this time I’m convince they will not come back before a collapse has taken place first…which will lead to a dark and heavy period of their History… but the light will be at the end of the tunnel 🙂

    • Xj Digger

      Europe is equally engulfed in this problem as America. You were taught that America Helped save your nations during WW1&2, While it was your European Bankers Who America Fought for the rights and freedoms under the Constitutional organization of Government and tried to throw off the evil chains of European Corruption. Those European Bankers brought fiat usury and BAR Lawyers here to bribe and destroy our government and propogandize the people to sell our souls for the immediate gratification of debt. That golden debt was sold to the Central Banks of the world and built the false economy of America while destroying our production industry. You must remember the history that the European Bankers brought communism to Russia and China and divided and conquered the world. Communisim is just banker controled Government rule cloaked as Socialism that propagandized the people and those who would not believe it was murdered by the millions. Yes it is time for America to Wake up to this Satanistic monster but the world needs to wake up also. America is not the only one to be deceived.

  • James

    Eventually, this will lead to the logical extreme control freaks in Washington want. I bet the world they imagine, is one in which LITERALLY need a license to live! On top of that, I’ve been reproduction will also be a licensed activity. On a sidenote, even though The leadership class, condemns North Korea with all their might, that is merely meant for public consumption. In private, when the masses are looking, what the truly feel is the purest form of ENVY that mankind can conceivably imagine.


      You got the makings of a very interesting novel there.

    • Michael Schaper

      “LITERALLY need a license to live.” They already have basically done that with the (non) affordable care act!

  • MrPissonyourgrave .

    AH when they come to arrest you for collecting rainwater-meet them with a Rifle……..

  • Ian Beattie

    Satanic Illuminati, with New World Order plans. Fallen Angels pulling all stops with our political puppet masters. Does that about sum it up? Get tight with Jesus…..

    • tieman

      Yes sir, in a nutshell.

  • Tom

    Michael, I’m curious whether New York State has mandated vaccines and has records of the over 2,000 illegal immigrant children and adults that were placed around the state in 2014 by the US government. These children are placed in our local public schools and are required to receive a taxpayer funded education. If our kids are required to be immunized, these kids had better be!


    Do we really know what is in these “vaccines”? Requiring people to take a “vaccine” is an excellent way to bring them under control, even finish them off. Look at how everyone “over 60” is “urged” to get a flu “vaccine”. Today, the government “urges”. Tomorrow, they “mandate”. You say you want that SS check and Medicare? Have you had your “vaccine”? Orwell was an optimist.

    • Orange Jean

      Personally, I really don’t understand the fear some people have towards vaccines. I was 5 when the first polio shots came out, but I remember well how terrified the mothers in my neighborhood were that their kids could catch polio before they figured that out (and in fact several kids did get polio in my town and were paralyzed).

      My 4 brothers and I also had measles, Rubella, chicken pox… and one of my brothers also got mumps. I did not enjoy getting those diseases and I know some people in my age group that have had severe health problems due to catching some of those diseases before they could control them. One of my friends back when I was a young mother had a son who was severely damaged from the fact that she had Rubella when she was pregnant. The boy did not have his tubes (urinary and penal) working correctly, in the wrong places… and had to have extensive surgery and would not ever be able to have children.

      Also, back when I was in school you still had to have a smallpox vaccination before you started school and had to show the school nurse your “scar” every year. For some odd reason, my brothers and I never got scars from that vaccine … so every year we had to get yet another smallpox vaccination.

      I have had seasonal flu shots every year for about 20 years; prior to that I would get flu every year. I have not had flu since.

      As far as I am aware, neither myself nor any of my brothers had any adverse reaction from any of the vaccines we ever got. I would only worry about it if you have allergies of the ingredients in a shot (which some people do… mostly because a lot of vaccines are grown in an egg medium).

      • robobbob

        well, vaccines, like food, education, even debt, at one time were useful and helpful. then the banksters and elites got a hold of them and corrupted them to the lowest possible state. food and vaccines are loaded with junk and even dangerous chemicals, to make money, or even for other purposes, education is for creating dumb ed down slaves, who are willing to take on unsustainable debt that is bankrupting people. You can make mothers milk dangerous, if you can trick mom into eating enough slow acting poison disguised as medicine
        all of the things you remember as helpful from days gone by has been corrupted at every level for one over all purpose, create more power for the elites.

        • Orange Jean

          Thanks…you make some interesting points. I don’t like the fact they’ve added mercury to those things.

          But the problem is a number of those “old” controlled diseases are coming back as serious problems… recent outbreaks of measles and pertussis for example.

  • markww

    These people are totally crazy blaming you for burning wood. How are they going to fine forest fires. Bar b q pits. Seems every time OBOZO does something its totally wrong. Example global warming the wholew USA IS FREEZING not heating up it is the sun that controls the events.

    • tieman

      Global warming….ya know?
      I sure wish that global warming would kick in.
      Its coooold in Colorado.
      Al Gore said years ago that by now winters would be snow-less.

  • Priszilla

    In socialism this was handled like this: take notice, save the money for a new oven, but when the inspector comes, let THEM remove and replace everything. Then wait for the invoice.

    • Mike Smithy

      No thanks. I would rather be in charge of my own destiny.

  • Priszilla

    Lol. The list proves that the population in the communist bloc are all preppers. Which might be the reason why people are paranoid about preppers in America.

    • tieman

      Commie-ism has failed everywhere it was tried.
      Hard to imagine it still has any proponents

      • Priszilla

        Democracy and Capitalism took several hunded years until they were established in most countries.

        England had it for 300 years when China and Russia were still imprisoned in feudalism.

        Spring will come after Winter. If you try to grow veggies in snow, you will fail.

        The conditions must be right.

  • dirtonodummies

    I make it a must to fart in courtrooms…

    • Mike Smithy

      As Michael Savage once said: “The stench from the bench is making me clench”.

      • T.


    • T.

      Are you saying you been escorted out of many courtrooms?

    • Orange Jean

      They’ll use it as an excuse to charge you a “carbon” tax!

  • Km

    ‘O’ was seated to (finish) the collapse. And he’s using the muzzies and the negros to do it! It’s judgement from above, and ‘O’ is the hammer!

  • NotAHappyCamper

    ALL OF IT, AND I MEAN ALL OF IT is based upon this premise;


    The majority of humans on this planet actually believe that Utopia can be attained in this reality. IT CANNOT, NOT AS LONG AS HUMANS INHABIT THIS SPHERE !!!

    They believe erroneously that if they just have enough laws, all those supposed bad guys will tow the line. THEY WON’T, because humans enjoy being in conflict as it makes them feel alive, when they can get an emotional jolt out of overpowering those they believe are inferior !!!

    Until the humans on this planet face up to their sickness, they will be continually at war with each other.

    • GSOB

      1 Corinthians 1:30

  • Cyan

    I’m not against the burning of wood for heat or having a burn barrel to dispose of paper & yard wastes. But I have to counter; don’t people also have the right to breath clean air- especially if they have allergies or lung ailments?
    Every year the community surrounding ours burns their fall leaves- we however are not permitted to burn anything. Sometimes the air becomes stagnant and the smoke/smell will linger for days and certain people are forced to stay indoors. How is this right for them?

    • grumpyhillbilly

      Climate change is about charging you for air via carbon taxes. So I would say no to your answer, but not in the way you meant it. BTW properly dried woods burns pretty clean in the woodstove.

      • Orange Jean

        I would suggest anyone who does have allergies and/or asthma to avoid using wood pellet stoves though… I have a friend in Maine who has one and has been suffering terribly from her asthma (more than a regular wood stove).

    • tieman

      People have burned wood to keep warm from time immemorial.
      Global warming is a lie.
      Obama/Soetoro is soooooo concerned about global warming that he jets around the world on vacations, polluting as he goes.

    • Orange Jean

      I have severe allergies (mostly to trees, weeds and grass) and I have *never* expected other people have a responsibility to get rid of what I am allergic to… it’s MY responsibility to do what I can to avoid things that cause me grief.

      I wish I had not left southern CA (where for some reason I had no allergy symptoms at all, even tho they do have trees, weeds, and grass) and moved to the southeast where I live in Allergy Hell… and have to stay indoors a lot because of it. Can’t find a job back where I left tho so I have to stick it out. Maybe one day I’ll figure out how I can move to the desert somewhere and survive and be better off health wise, but until I do… I certainly don’t expect my neighbors to cut down their trees and pave over their lawn.

      That being said, it’s not a smart idea to burn leaves on a windy day, because you never know when the fire will get out of control.

  • brotherjohnf

    “most Americans still seem to believe that we live in a “free country”

    Hahahaha. Hilarious!

    • Michael Schaper

      Most of your subscribers actually think you have the right idea on silver too!

      • T.

        Most of his subscribers are but a very tiny portion of Americans too.

  • Darryl Lawton

    In government, there is power. There is money by the tons, which is also a form of power. Even those that run for office with good intentions seem to get corrupted by the massive amounts of money and power in the federal government. It is little wonder that control freak types gravitate toward this kind of position……and there is NOTHING that a control freak hates worse than someone that is not willing to BOW DOWN to their control.
    Some wield their power by legislation, but far more wield their power through regulation, which is worse, because you never hear anything about anything, until it is already done.
    This is EXACTLY the kind of megalomaniacs that the first settlers that came to America were trying to escape! King George, in all his tyranny has NOTHING on these people!
    It is time to take a stand against these people! If not now…..then when?

  • Knutekritt

    …guy down the road was out skeet shooting and missed badly and took out that last drone by mistake 🙂 ….it seems we are heading for civil war..

  • Bill

    Congrats Michael, this article made rumurmillnews.

  • sharonsj

    A lot of these rules have nothing to do with prepping and everything to do with corporate control, especially when it comes to living off the grid. If the corporations can’t make money off you, then they will get state legislatures to pass laws forcing you to pay them.

    I’d like to see them try and enforce the off-the-grid laws in Hawaii, where most of the houses are off the grid….


    Be locked and loaded at all times, in all places. No compromise; No surrender!

  • Richard O. Mann

    What a lot of people don’t understand is that no matter how well prepped you are, sooner or later you will run out of things. When this world system as we now know it, goes into total shut down as it is about to do, it will not be a quick fix and return to normal. The US is going down fast, and I expect it to be hit by Russia or Iran or some other group, with nukes of one type or another. Most people in the know, understand that it will take only one or two well placed nukes to take this country back to the stone age. EMP will take out all the electric, communications, and anything with a micro processor in it. It really is hard to even imagine just how bad it is going to be. I see this county coming under the judgement of a righteous and angry God for the things this country has been guilty of since the 60’s. The current President is a part of that Judgement. When it is all said and done, there may be survivors of the coming chaos coming to the US, but the world they inhabit will in no way resemble what we know today.

    • Gay Veteran

      “…The US is going down fast, and I expect it to be hit by Russia or Iran or some other group, with nukes of one type or another….”

      note that it is the U.S. that has military bases surrounding Russia and Iran

      • Malcolm Reynolds

        So you think that would justify nuking us.
        I bet you think it’s ok for Muslims to gun people down over cartoons too.

        • Gay Veteran

          you are truly an expert…… building strawmen.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Yea, it ranks right up there with your stupid 50s comment above. And was intended as so…

          • Gay Veteran

            what are you babbling about?

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            I bet you miss the 50s when hatred of Blacks was socially acceptable.
            Apparently it was you babbling, I’m parodying.

          • Gay Veteran

            that quote wasn’t directed at you.
            but with you context means nothing

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Please cite where I thought anything of the sort. Yikes dude, You’re having an exceptionally hard time keeping up today.

          • Gay Veteran

            hey junior, you’re the one who brought it up

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            You posted to someone else an idiotic strawman.
            I replied to you and parroted your stupid strawman based on something stupid you said.
            And you devolved into incoherent blather from there. Is it actually hard to keep your head upright?

          • Gay Veteran

            sounds like you need to pry your head out of your own a ss

        • Gay Veteran

          “So of course you think that would justify nuking us.
          I bet you think it’s ok for Muslims to gun people down over cartoons too.”

          you’re spreading more lies, again

    • Orange Jean

      Knowledge is the ultimate prepping. Can’t take it way.

  • Lennie Pike

    “I want to know why Nurse Ratchet has locked up all the cigarettes and just squeezes out a pack when she feels like it. – I’m no little kid!!!. I don’t want his cigarettes, or his, or his!!! I want my cigarettes!!! I want my cigarettes!!!!!” – Get this mad and let’s get the ball rolling! Or keep on stuttering like Billy Bibbit as you have been since JFK was murdered by these cowardly Godless saltless zeroes.

  • grumpyhillbilly

    I can’t even begin to recall all the times that I’ve relied on a woodstove for heat and cooking because the grid was down. However I guess I’m not a true prepper. I figure death isn’t a bad option in the case of either radioactive or chemical poisoning. I do plan on working thru enomic collapse and natural disaster. So do they hate half a prepper? Probably.

    • Roger Smith

      I rely on my wood stove for probably 80% of my heat during winter. When I look at my 3 cords of wood stacked up in the fall, I see the result of a bunch of my unpaid labor. What the government sees is a bunch of labor that they weren’t able to tax. So they have to disable me from using such a heat source. That way I will be compelled to work a job, pay those blood-suckers half my wages, turn around and be forced to purchase gas or electricity from one of their “crony” monopolies. At that point, I’m treated to another pile of taxes tacked onto the utility bill…..and intrusions onto my property. You see what this is REALLY about?
      This is the exact same reason they don’t like stay at home mothers. They need those women out in the work force, where their efforts can be tracked and taxed. Plus they need their children in day care…where they can create more taxable jobs. Also, it’s important that the kids don’t become too attached to their parents…or grow up in a home, learning skills and work habits while working along side their parents and siblings. You see, the kids need to know that “it takes a village”. Parents and family are just kind of an outdated, unnecessary hassle.
      A healthy family unit is always in the cross-hairs of fascists and communists. It’s the biggest threat against their satanic efforts. Dividing the family was the objective of Hitler youth and the re-education camps of the Khmer Rouge.

      • Orange Jean


        The day care thing is also when and where they start indoctrinating kids into accepting the so-called “socialism” aka communism. Prepping the kiddies for Commie Core, etc.

  • Jason Anderson

    Destroy The Government !!

  • Nick

    one could argue that the wealthy are all preppers, because if SHTF they have the most items that could be used for barter to get what ever they need. Not to mention things like gold and silver they might have laying around.

  • Roger Smith

    Anyone notice the constant pressure for returning vets to seek help for PTSD? Of course those with problems should seek help but it seems like they’re pushing it on everyone. My opinion is they want to get as many vets as possible certified with PTSD. At some point in the future, these folks will be deemed unfit to own firearms… will anyone in their household. Governments will always de-claw those they fear.

  • goldminer

    They can have my wood stove when they pry it out of my cold dead hands. Second Amendment 2.5 says……The Right to own and heat your home with a wood stove shall not be infringed.
    You can refer to Second Amendment 2.0 for clarification.

  • disqus_lsSGzxBypZ

    The best thing is to stay under the radar at all costs. The worst thing is to brag, or even worse than that is to appear on a prepper tv show.

  • GSOB

    “What in the world is happening to us?”

    You know. See Luke 22:25

    Here is how we go on…

    The sword of the Spirit is the sword with which the disciples of Christ must furnish themselves.

  • Jack

    Follow the G”s guns, gold, a garden, good water, a generator, gasoline, generic medicine, and God for wisdom

    • …maybe put the: “BIG G” first though. Amen buddy! (I’m not a fan of guns myself…being the clutz I am…but I sure as Heaven dont think anyone should touch yours! …Scary how new idiots think they are greater than the constitution. and scarier still how many turn a blind eye. I don’t care for them, but I’d pick one up If i felt absolutely called. -Till then I’ll keep praying!

  • Robert

    I am guessing that most posters here did NOT grow up during the polio days when kids and adults were struck down by the virus. The vaccines were a godsend. For me, measles and mumps both almost killed me. I would have been grateful for a vaccine. In the military I stood in line and got hit with every vaccine known to man at the time, no choice, and no telling how many in a single syringe: typhoid, yellow fever, typhus, plague and more. No body parts fell off. I have had 3 smallpox vaccinations. Still have my parts. Malaria still kills hundreds of thousands a year and if a vaccine is made, it will be welcomed by millions. This vaccine hysteria is just that, unfounded hysteria just like climate change. Get a grip people. A pediatrician friend will not take patients whose parents refuse vaccinations. She has seen too much damage from unvaccinated children and simple refuses to take on cases that are entirely preventable. She is still free to do that.

    As for prepping, what happens after your prep stuff runs out? I know of one couple who live on a farm who might make it after the market shelves are bare because they can hunt and fish and are skilled at it. They do not know how to make candles though. Their well is not solar or wind powered. What happens when the power goes off. What happens when the coffee and toilet paper run out? I never hear or read about “post prep days”.

    As for the good old days in America, what days do you mean? The days before anesthesia and penicillin? The days when women as well as black people or people who did not own property could not vote? The days when the majority were ramrodded because they did not support independence from England? The days when a handful of slave owners drove many non-slave owners onto the Civil War battlefields to be slaughtered on the behalf of the rich landowners and politically connected? States rights my foot. It was a rich man’s war and a poor man’s fight. There were confederate commanders who put units behind advancing units to shoot any soldier trying to leave the fight. Glory my foot.

    The good old days never existed. The rich were always in charge. They are in charge now. There were government bureaucrats in the “good old days”, just fewer of them. Ever heard of Indian Agents and the good work they did. Bah!

    For my part I keep a low profile. I want to be invisible everywhere I go. Your government can take you down in so many ways if you antagonize them. I’ve been in two of the government’s wars. The first one I had no choice. Thank you my fellow Americans.


      seems if you have no preps, you tend to run out a whole lot quicker than if you have some.

      • Mike Smithy

        Yep. A Prepper can’t prepare for every contingency that he or she may run up against. I would rather have an average plan that covers the basics as opposed to having no plan at all. This underlying premise is what differentiates Preppers from other mammals.

    • T.

      What happens when everything runs out? “Post prep days?” That’s easy. If you cannot get more – You die. No one lives forever in this physical body – Surely you know that. If you run out of stuff and want to cheat death a little while – Go to a Government feeding station (FEMA Camp). Do not let find out you were a prepper tho. Cause They will take great pleasure in ” water boarding & other nice things” before they let you die. You know? There are some things on this site that a person has to figure out for themselves.


    seems more like what has already happened to us!

  • jcrosby35

    What happen to us?
    To start with we let government take over the country and now we have socialism. Socialism is another name for communism. And the whole point of communism is to control. Communism wants to control you from birth to death and dictate to you everything from religion to how you live and what you eat.
    Wake up people this is how socialism works. 65% of the children in this country are on food stamps. Or some other government controlled social welfare program..
    95 million people are out of work and many others are under employed and on some kind of government program to subsidize their living. Government wants to play god and in doing so makes you dependent on them. It is about control of the people. In the long term it will lead us to the socialistic NWO.
    When the economic balloon breaks and the economy of this country is broke you will be required to give up your freedom which (was) provided through your Constitution and Bill of Right and become a citizen of the NWO submitting yourself to their rule of law,(for the good of all people). You will be required to take a RFID chip so you can buy and sell and government can tack and control you. (All for the good of the people).
    The elite will rule and you will be given people chosen by the elite to vote for and govern you. (Their form of democracy), is a two party system with people they have chosen. The illusion of freedom.
    You do what you are told to do and the government will continue to provide programs for your living. You get out of line and a swat team shows up at your door at 3AM to correct you, or dispose of the problem.
    For further information please feel free to consult your Bible and read Revelation chps. 13 and 14 for your near future experience.
    Thank you, have a good day.

  • Yort

    I must say, out of all the threads I read, on all of the news groups I follow. This group is by FAR the most intelligent group of posters, bar none. The posts are on point, and most, well thought out. I think pepper’s are some level headed, pretty intelligent people, as evidenced by these posts. While not quite as old as AzDi, I too am sad to see the downfall of our country, and world. Sad to read comments from Fiona, and Joel Peeters, knowing that it’s true. I could insert many great quotes here, but this one from President Reagan is fitting. “If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth.” I hope and pray, this last beacon of freedom, which is dimming, is not extinguished. And if it is, I know that most of the people posting here, will be some of those still around, to relight it. God bless America. Stand strong everyone.

    • AMEN…And may GOD BLESS the HOPE of what AMERICA (and us all) can yet BECOME! -No greater glory can be found than that of Living up to our Father’s Wishes!

    • SunnyFlaSnotress

      I take a very different stand.

  • Mondobeyondo

    It won’t be only preppers that the government will be cracking down on. It’ll be anyone who stands up or supports the Constitution, or the Bible, or anyone who does not conform to the suggestions (soon to be commands) of the power-mad lunatics who hide behind the scenes (yes, the Illuminati, New World Order, etc.) They will label you a “fanatic” or worse, a “terrorist” – which would give them full license to deny you any of your rights.

    They do NOT want you to be free and independent. They want you under their thumb, with total control. Preferably, from cradle to grave.

    • you know its sad but true….all it is…ever…ever was…will be…ever…twisting…turning…

  • PreppingRN

    As a medical professional I am appalled at the suggestion that religious freedom somehow trumps all else when regarding vaccines. Religious freedom ends when it infringes upon another person’s right to life. The fact is vaccines save lives. They save the lives of those that receive them, as well as those that can’t as a result of medical conditions preventing them from getting vaccinated. Just as a a Satanist wouldn’t be afforded exemption for offering me as a ritual sacrifice, neither should individuals that are healthy enough to receive vaccines and decline to do so be afforded exemption, either. As surely as my life can be ended by some Satanist practicing his/her religion, so too can someone else’s life be ended by someone that has refused to be vaccinated on the grounds of religion. The only difference is that the chance of someone becoming a ritual sacrifice is highly unlikely, while the chance of someone being murdered from contracting a preventable disease spread by some kook that didn’t get vaccinated is pretty much guaranteed. Last time I checked, not many religions approved of murder, which is exactly what happens to the defenseless in our society when those that are healthy enough to be immunized opt not to be.

    • Orange Jean

      Agreed, and I’m an epidemiologist.

    • SunnyFlaSnotress

      Agreed, though I take a softer stand because I almost died due to a vaccine (the old outdated dead vaccine) that caused a worse case of measles than if I hadn’t been vaccinated at all. Numbers of other people went through similar.
      Vaccines are a great thing, but we shouldn’t lose circumspection on how they can also cause unforeseen problems, and how they can be pushed too soon, too aggressively.
      We shouldn’t have to accept the unvaccinated into our public schools, but a little understanding of those who choose not to accept vaccines may be in order.

  • SL

    So many things wrong today. Have to say that behind all the rules and laws is a person. Too many times I here that it is this Company or that One, and that it is this government. It is easy for the certain people behind all this, to hide in the background, and proclaim they had no control. These people that desire regulations have one basic agenda, Their own Wallet.

  • worker72a

    Give anyone a monopoly on creating money from nothing and then act real surprised when they buy, bribe and bully their way to power? C’mon. The Fed is the fuel in the engine of repression. Turn off the supply and they sputter and die. (figuratively, no death threats here. Honest, Boss.)

  • FortuneSeek3rz

    Great jobs report today. Sub 5% unemployment coming in 2015, hopefully.

  • riftcliff

    Why many of you US citizens confound socialism with fascism? Your country, as many others, is becoming utterly fascist, not socialist. Or you think definitions are not important at all?

    • El Pollo de Oro

      “This is not free-market capitalism. It’s crony capitalism. It’s a collusion of big government and big business, which is more a fascist system.”—Ron Paul

      “When Obama came in, they said, ‘He’s communist, he’s Marxist.’ No, he’s fascist. It’s the merger of state and corporate powers. Fascism has taken over this country. They’ve turned us into a police state.”—Gerald Celente

      “Los Estados Unidos has turned into a banana republic, a fascist banana republic.”—Gerald Celente

      “Next train to Auschwitz, all aboard! Kiss those calories goodbye, because we’re in a fascist state.”—Gerald Celente

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      Please ignore all the redistribution of wealth to arrive at your conclusion.

      • Gay Veteran

        you talking about socialism? or fascism in America (also known as bankism)?

  • riftcliff

    Fascism is not socialism.

  • El Pollo de Oro

    Fiona: As an aging Gen-Xer American who has done a lot of traveling in Europe over the years, I’ve seen a big shift. You ever heard the old Neapolitan song from the 1950s, “Tu Vuo’ Fare l’Americano?” by Renato Corasone. It was making fun of Italians who were so enamored of this country that they wanted to emulate us as much as possible. “Tu balla rock ‘n roll, tu gioca beisbol. Tu bevi whiskey e soda.” I knew many European immigrants back in the day here in Philly who equated this country with innovation and upward mobility. Now, The Banana Republic of America is equated with rot, decay, economic misery and a militarized police state. Italia and Spagna lived through fascism, and they recognize all the warning signs here in the BRA just as they recognized them with all the Latin American regimes. You’ve heard about all the recent unrest in Ferguson, Missouri. Well, all of that will pale in comparison to the mega-rioting that will take place when our government declares a bank holiday, the currency is formally devalued and millions of Americans can’t get their money out of the bank.

    Hell, some of my business contacts in Europe have told me that if they lived in the BRA, they’d probably become preppers themselves.

  • SunnyFlaSnotress

    About that case in Cape Coral where the woman didn’t want to connect to municipal sewer lines, having lived around that area a few years back, I’d say that’s more a local realty political money thing.. not an afront to preppers.
    They were doing some relatively large scale projects w/sewage connections and assessing property taxes for it. If I remember right, it was a mandatory program. Shopping for realty at the time, though not decidedly in Cape Coral, I was aware of the project and taxes. It’s understandable that some people wouldn’t want to pay the considerable special tax if they have alternate sewage systems. Then again, the area may actually be having ground water purity issues. Probably not..probably more of a local political realty thing.. a semi-urban issue.
    Going after the Oregon man for collecting rainwater.. I give up, that sure is a weird one. Makes me think he was personally targeted. I can’t think of any credible reason to stop him.

    • Orange Jean

      Don’t forget though… one of the ways the UN is trying to push it’s Agenda 21 is by convincing local governments that they are the best way to implement “sustainability.” And all local environmentally related laws are required to meet Federal guidelines.

      I worked doing environmental planning in CA from 1989-1992. Even then it was how they did it. CA for example, has it’s own EPA and it’s town laws regulating things like that (CEQA rather than NEPA)… but the only reason they are allowed to do that is they have to meet or exceed Federal EPA regs. And the rule of thumb in CA is… if you have a project requiring environmental review and you are asking for Federal funds (for example, most road projects) you have to follow both Federal and CA environmental laws. So you have to go through the process of both CEQA and NEPA, although you can do it jointly. The company I worked for specialized in joint CEQA/NEPA projects (things involving freeways, dams, etc.)

  • unbubbleslayr

    It’s also illegal in my state to ask a question to an aloof officer at the risk you will annoy him as I have found out.


    C-I-V-I-L D-I-S-O-B-E-I-E-N-C-E -….. Live it or run with the herd right over the cliff. Stop whining, man up and do it. Talking is wasting time as the largest sh&%ball in decades rolls downhill towards us all.

  • Mike Adams

    How much?

  • Mike Adams

    This is lame.

  • Getreadyfreddy

    That’s cause the crap is gonna hit the fan here real soon. People get ready. Big cities first with out of control terror from radical Is-slimests. Get some water and food ready cause it will disrupt the country. No-one is coming to help you, no-one can keep you safe. That is your job then we can help others as we band together. I’m getting a few cases of water and some canned foods tomorrow. Warnings are out there and we have reason to take head.

  • BeeKaaay

    What’s a free country?

  • Alleged Comment

    You do NOT have to obey an immoral, unjust, or unconstitutional law. THAT IS YOUR RIGHT.

    That said you ask them if there is ANY evidence that a wood burning stove is contributing to global warming? If they say yes let them prove it to you with some REAL evidence and not what some lieberal approved professor said.

    And if they try to arrest you, you and your buddies arrest them for not upholding the Constitutional laws of this land.

    Then your whole county should go after the governer. Then your whole State should go after your Cornygress man and then this whole nation should go after the illegal phony negro trying to be emperor.

  • Sunny

    CAN ANYONE, answer this?
    For the time being, forget about Bible revelations, prophecies and all similar blah, blah!
    When movies like “2012”, “Day After Tomorrow”, “Independence Day”, etc., etc., were NOT banned and its profits were reaped/shared by the governments (in the form of taxes and whatever), then why the same govt. is worried about preppers today???

    • Orange Jean

      Interesting question, but I don’t have an answer. And you can find today information on FEMA and CDC websites on how to prepare for emergencies, including encouraging your family to store food, water, toilet paper, etc.

  • Johnny Panzer

    What a wonderful government we live under here in the US. We’re so free, it’s unbelievable! We have a Marxist government that tells us over and over to prepare for “zombie apocalypse” scenarios, but when you do what they suggest, they put you on a watch list. Just proves our government is the NWO and it’s evil beyond all get out. They want to track who listens to their “advice” to root out subversives or preppers. Pure evil.

  • JohnO

    Another thing preppers should remember is to pay for any stock by cash. Don’t use internet sites, paying by card. The Government will know what you’re up to and know exactly where to find you when they want your supplies.

  • Ian Beattie

    I live in Hawaii, I just saw on my local news that the Navy is bring in more submarines and stealth destroyers. Preparing for something….

  • Poor Richard

    This began under Ronald Reagan with REX84

  • jschurchin

    I wonder when the EPA is going to make regulations against forest fires. I can see them now, chasing down thunderstorms and fining them for lightning.

    • Orange Jean

      Well, they already want to charge cows for farting! And people for breathing!!

  • Martin

    American government is losing grip of power on international scene, so it will try to milk those living in US more, just to maintain its revenue.
    It will only get worst, until complete atrophy of entire society and cultural collapse.
    Then there will be a Mexican type of life in chaos.


    We need a two pronged attack on anti-preppers. 1. The republicans should immediately de-fund the communist EPA. 2. With local citizens and corresponding sheriff’s should seek out and arrest these federal agents. Should those people resisit then let all hell break loose. If you don’t then prepare for slavery.

  • Otto

    Trust Jesus.

  • Mike Adams

    Yes, there is one big solution with Collapse. And who must be a Somme?

  • gfmucci

    I wouldn’t label these folks as “preppers.” I would call them people who just want to live their lives, be self sufficient and responsible for their own needs as much as possible – those who feel strength and significance by their hard work. This is anathema to our government and contrary to the the welfare state and entitlement mentality that the government promotes.

    • Gay Veteran

      I bet you miss the 50s when hatred of Blacks was socially acceptable.

      • guest

        Ever notice that those perverts claiming to be ‘gay’, never are ?
        They scream ‘hate’ without ever realizing that they are merely projecting……and it is obvious to the victims of their diatribes….. Better for the ‘gay’ to keep quiet and thought a fool, than to open his mouth and remove all doubt……
        Food for thought……… nothing there for you to sexualize in a perverted fashion…….

        • Gay Veteran

          ok, I’ll have to pretend that made some sense

          • guest

            Quit stalking me. I’m not an 8 year old boy……..

          • Gay Veteran

            you have me confused with your father

      • gfmucci

        It was never immoral to practice being black. Apples and oranges and crappy analogy. People prone to immoral lifestyles (I guess such as yourself) typically make inappropriate analogies and demean others to defend their own behavior.

        • Gay Veteran

          let me guess, you obey all the dictates of Leviticus, right?
          I’ll leave it to smug self-righteous pharisess like yourself to proclaim what is immoral.

          • gfmucci

            It does not require “smug” to acknowledge 2,000 years of widely accepted moral standards in the world, and over 200 years of Judeo-Christian-based morality in this nation. It requires ignorant and denial to ignore these facts, again to defend perverted personal behavior. Are animals next?

          • Gay Veteran

            AGAIN: let me guess, you obey all the dictates of Leviticus, right?

            your type loves to condemn those “sins” you don’t participate in. don’t you have some street corner to pray loudly at?

            you’re probably too dense to understand that slaveowners in the South used Judeo-Christian-based morality to justify slavery.
            so no, I’m not going to take any lectures on morality from the likes of you, pharisee

          • Gay Veteran

            “…This article was about “preppers”, not “perverts”, so let’s drop it.”

            hey junior, it was YOU that brought up gays, and the only thing perverted here is your hatred

  • Is anyone who is awake surprised!? The USA died in 1871, with the Washington DC Act… The take over of the entire world was easy. The last “eviction” of the masses/serfs will be even easier, unfortunately. When the time comes they will use their real “end all” suppressed super technology & super bio-weapons etc. Only the Lord Jesus Christ will save you. Besides the Spiritual battle which is the most important, we must all prepare for battle here too!

  • HotRain

    Ditto. If you want or have to leave US..well? Better to have some gold/silver chains/bracelets, easy cash ANYwhere. And as always, cash. Stay mobile prepared.

  • Newjerseyisthecode

    Passive aggressive that’s what we need to become to win if we must fight.

  • Keywee

    Oh boy, this really hits home! I’ve been targeted by authorities simply for wanting to be in control of my own life and property. Don’t think for one second that this is limited to the US. The fireplace ban is scary, especially when they claim it is for environmental reasons. Dry wood from fast-growing trees is one of the best, cleanest, most sustainable fuels.

    • Orange Jean

      I agree on your concerns re: fireplace ban. I’m sorry to hear apparently it’s becoming world wide…. their so-called “sustainability” I assume.

      EPA are a bunch of NUTS! I would also add to this our recent wood stove ban and RAIN BARREL ban. In the meantime, EPA pushing for mercury filled light bulbs as “good” (fortunately, they somehow have not yet been able to require that … in the meantime, my “stash” includes a good many regular light bulbs.

  • 1776

    WHO IS STILL BLIND ENOUGH OR NAIVE ENOUGH TO BELIEVE THAT THERE WILL BE AN ELECTION IN 2016??? … Are you kidding me? .. OBAMA WILL DECLARE MARTIAL LAW LONG BEFORE THEN!!! …. Is Obama Arming the DHS like an Army for Nothing? .. Has he Fired over 250 Patriotic Military Commanders for Nothing? .. Has he gathered Thousands of Foreign troops, Weapons, Ammo and Tanks in America for Nothing? .. Has he purchased almost 2 BILLION rounds of Hollow Point Ammunition for Nothing? .. Has he activated almost 400 FEMA Concentration Camps across America for Nothing? .. Has he signed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) which allows him to arrest Americans without trial for Nothing? .. Has he appointed Radical Black Racist Anti-Americans to Top Key posts (Attorney General, New head of DHS, etc) for Nothing? .. I could go on all day with the preparations he has made to subdue and control all Americans when he declares Martial Law.

    We are entering the very End Days spoken of in the Bible. I believe that Obama is Satanically Empowered and Satanically Protected. …. Why else would our Military, Secret Service, CIA, etc., stand passively by and knowingly allow him to totally destroy our Nation?


    • Gay Veteran

      “…Has he appointed Radical Black Racist Anti-Americans to Top Key posts (Attorney General, New head of DHS, etc) for Nothing?….”

      you do know that Attorney General Holder was a tool of the banksters, right?

  • Mike Adams

    If there is one new contents above, then check your butt.

  • undeRGRound

    OPSEC, People… don’t inform the SHEEPLE of your work!

  • Orange Jean

    Michael, I’ve been thinking about this article all day!

    I liked K’s suggestion to go find yourself a backwoods place to live, but I’d be cautious about the fact there are some places that attract a lot of criminals (think drug cartels and the like) because they are very rural. I don’t know that it necessarily needs to be all that remote .. but you
    know you’re in a place that makes some sense if the following applies:

    1. nobody calls it “prepping” … but it’s what everyone does
    2. everyone (even single people) always shops for at least a month worth of food at a time … myself… I live alone but do a month’s worth of shopping most weeks, so I always have a full fridge, pantry, and freezer
    3. you might have to take a “pit stop” to get from your house to work every day, due to the distance
    4. most people own one or more of the following: a gun, a boat, a truck, animals, farm equipment
    5. nearest grocery store, Walmart, ER or hospital… could be 20+ miles away, and often not in the same direction
    there will be many gas stations “in town” which is the nearest small
    town, because by the time they get there a lot of people could be
    running low on gas
    7. they carry propane at the grocery store
    8. fire department and search and rescue might well be volunteer

    The whole point is what others call “prepping” is such a normal way of life, you don’t stand out in one of those communities.

    “they” might come after you with a drone (and they make tiny ones now, the size of a fly), but the truth is… if you
    have to use dial-up (as I do) to get on the computer because of where you live… it’s not that easy to track you down and probably not worth the boether.

    I just got back from the grocery store and I had some reminders that I’m living in a place that feels safer than a lot of other places I’ve lived. For one thing, the “local” store I go to (that is, 20+ miles from my house)… has as many survival-type magazines as it does fashion or car magazines. You can find a good selection of magazines that are about backwoods living, collecting and using guns, hunting, fishing, raising chickens, etc., etc. If you came from a city and knew NOTHING about this stuff you could learn a lot from those sources, or books in your local library, or neighbors.

    Also strangers talk to each other in the store, and one guy I talked to out in the parking lot when I asked him not to put away a cart so I could use it to get into the store safely cracked a joke about those little carts being “redneck walkers”. I knew exactly what he was talking about too!

    If your family, co-workers or old friends who live in the city or suburbs worry about you being “way out there”…. it’s probably a good thing. If you get poked fun of for having too long a commute or turning into a redneck … that’s a good thing too.

  • Gay Veteran

    Birth of the Southern Strategy
    By Joshua Green

    When Lyndon Johnson signed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, he’s said to have predicted, “There goes the South for a generation.” He feared black suffrage would prompt white Southerners to abandon the Democratic Party. Under Richard Nixon, the GOP’s “Southern Strategy” aimed to ensure it by systematically making veiled (and often not-so-veiled) racist appeals to white voters. “From now on,” Nixon aide Kevin Phillips told him, “the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote, and they don’t need any more than that.”

  • Gay Veteran

    funny, you actually proved my point:

    “Many southern Democrats became Republicans at the national level, while remaining with their old party in state and local politics throughout the 1970s and 1980s”

    and btw Einstein, racist southern democrats are not merely limited to the elected politicians as you like to pretend

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      Nope. Not once not ever has the republican party been the party of racism. Sorry Charlie, no tuna. But then, I hear you don’t like it anyway a$$ miner.

      • Gay Veteran

        never said the republican party was the party of racism, just that southern racists joined it.
        guess that is too much for you to understand

  • James

    1) If you can’t buy any wood burning stove. You can make thin gs that will hold wood or fuel to burn like in a wood burning stove, such as a oil drum, or masonry like brick and mortar.

    2) As for not attending public school without vaccinations. You can home school your children. They will probably be much healthier, and better educated than the public school children anyways.

  • We hate it when our own governments considered us as threats to national security. People running governments and making policies are the real enemies of the people, to include the corporate world. Remember the announcement of Nestle recently that access to water is not a basic right?

  • Malcolm Reynolds

    Actually black people started to move to democrats back in FDRs days, DESPITE the overwhelming proof of flagrant democrat racism, because of the gimme dats. sorry liar.

    • Gay Veteran

      wow, too dense to know you lost

  • sparksnavy

    yep–Obama has gotten rid of the true Military leaders of America–they are aware of what is going on and will react accordingly when the time comes!

  • Gay Veteran

    “…Ultimately, we won’t be fighting our own military, that’s why they’re being forced out and replaced by the LGBT crowd….”


    but then any person who is awake would not volunteer to serve in the imperial military

    • kfilly

      That is what the idea of allowing illegals to gain citizenship by serving the military is for. The illegals will shoot at Americans.

      • Gay Veteran

        and Americans wouldn’t???

        • kfilly

          Not all but a lot would. I am more worried about the DHS and some of the other alphabet soup agencies. It is the reason Obama stated he wanted to create a security force equal to the strength of our army.

          • Gay Veteran

            look on the bright side, the TPTB couldn’t defeat a bunch of goat herders in Afghanistan

  • Gay Veteran

    how kind was Portugal in their colonies?

  • Gay Veteran

    was I talking about the mechanics of passage of the Civil Rights Act or Voting Rights Act?
    that is just a distraction for you to raise

  • Gay Veteran

    Pelosi and Obama built upon Bush the Stoopid’s work.

  • Jordan Friendly

    All you need is enough food and water on hand to get you through a major natural disaster, which should be just a few days. Anything else and you’re overreacting. Man will join hand in hand and work together to help one another when disaster strikes. These independents are basically saying, leave me alone, I don’t like you, if you come near me I’ll kill you, I don’t want your help and you’re not getting mine. But when those same preppers run out of food, guess who they’ll go running to for help? The government or someone else. You can’t stay independent and survive, you need others. If greed is the motivation for their actions then yes, it is wrong and they’ll pay in the end when they stand before God, but if unity and community is the goal then their actions are justified. Even these government enforcers are concerned for their own health and safety. If you’re a normalized individual then you’ll receive their help in times of trouble, but if you’re one of these weird, paranoid recluses who holes up with ammo and canned goods shooting at anyone who gets near, then you’re way out of line and need to be corrected.

  • Jordan Friendly

    Let’s think about this realistically, what is the reason people prep? The government must know with their great academics that a fundamental Human trait is fear. They will, because of this trait tend to make necessary arrangement for themselves to ensure their own safety. In a society of some unrest where there is violence and terror, people tend to turn inward and become more self-aware. A self survivalist mentality kicks in. This is something the government should be encouraging to prepare the populace for any type of threat, and not just keep them in line and tell them the military will handle it all. We need to all be prepared internally, and this is a basic Human right, because it is a basic biological factor of the Human Psyche. This can not be infringed upon by the government, but the government really only wants to keep order. They too have the survivalist mentality, but from the perspective of the ruling class? the aristocratic class? the high ranking officer class? and the highest class of them all in my opinion, the Judiciary class. For they have the power of the lock and key. But none the less, people should be being encouraged in the US to innovate energy generation technology and freely use it so that we CAN be more self sufficient. A wise government would know this. You can not robotize the populace without a never ending tug of war that can only be released if both sides let go of the rope and agree to be at peace and end the struggle and the tyranny.

  • Kevin Michaels

    KISS GOD BLESS ! America is my home why leave.If others are coming here then who is destroying there world.I will fight for mine along side you and yours

  • Kevin Michaels

    Q ? of the day. The Great Mystery Bablyon.

    In the prophecy’s in Revelations.(the future in the second half of the 7 year tribulation,no one who is not in Christ will not be saved.What you all speak of is those left behind.the future of America Overthrown, the Europeon Union Roman Empire will perish.

    Now the real survivalist Q is. who are 2/3 rds population to be eliminated what Nation or Countries in combined
    territories. Surely not America or Canada along with Central or S.America ? Remember A Warning written down given in Spirit (Jesus) to John.Will it be Europe that Revalations describes.”The boot is not land locked.”But! Iraq is it land locked the home of Babalyon and can access navigable waters.In the Legend the great Egale will fall. But who is the harlot over the world.Catholic Rome and Europe with The UK and France.Or America her self.The true Christian will be sheilded then taken.then Christ and his made Angel who fell will battle to the End.If Israel will Stand and wipe out Russia Iran and all the radical Moslims.why run. I live in a rural town in NV. Water is key and surviving hot and cold, hunting and trapping camping and farming and living off the land, is a way of life here.

    Waiting for Jesus and his new Heavens and Worlds..Is good enough for me.

  • Deep State Infiltrator

    As ex military myself, I assure you
    that the most sane thing to do is to look out for your own family and find a
    location far from what is coming. I totally understand why competent highly
    intelligent ex military are doing exactly what Mega Yacht and USS America are

    When it comes down mate, and it will, anyone who reads this must understand one
    very important thing; this will be a disastrous rout of civilization. This will
    not be a war between men and maggots, this will be an extermination.

    Think about the tactical scenario for a moment. The US is collapsed, more than
    130 million are heavily armed, pist off and the largest standing army on the
    planet period.

    I am telling you mate, the sanest thing to do is lose the bravado, end your
    balls out testosterone laden condemnations and get it that when this does go
    down, the powers that be have already prepared an end game plan with a full set
    of protocols in a procedural spatial plan. That plan is simple; those who can
    retire to the underground facilities which absolutely exist will do so. Anyone
    left outside will simply be either nuked in large cities, following the nuclear
    attacks will come the bio weapons designed to kill every human soul in any
    affected area of choosing.

    PERIOD –

    The latency of the bio attack is simple, the virus dies without a host and
    after about 7 to 9 months, the bio weapon attack will become completely inert.
    Thus, rendering the largest standing army on the planet simply dead and inert.
    I suspect there humanities epitaph won’t even be written as there will be no
    one left to write it and if there is, may God have mercy on there pathetic
    souls having to endure that existence.

    Get your head around this mate, very hi up military as well as many in these
    areas of warfare completely understand this. guns, ammo, hoarding supplies is
    completely useless mate.

    There is no safe strategic location anywhere in the US. The entire northern
    half of the US is a nuclear target, period. The remaining southern states which
    are heavily populated will of course be hit with nukes, followed by most likely
    a bio attack, a mid level flu should do it nicely to render the vast majority
    of survivors simply dead.

    If you survive these two most basic scenarios, you will be living amongst
    millions of rotting corpses and the diseases spawned from this alone will wipe
    out any possibility of survivors. Thus the reason Continuity of Government protocols
    for Deep Under Ground bases is a minimum of a two year stay from the time of
    the planned culling of humanity. They will likely stay an additional year
    within before coming our and the all clear is tested and then clearance given
    to return to the surface.

    How I know this is simple, I have read plenty of scenario reports that clearly
    outline this a an operational protocol. It’s just that matter of fact. Staying
    behind is an immediate death sentence mate for you and all around you.

    This is not the civil war with antiquated weapons of another century, this is
    the UN civil war that will ensue with extreme technology that have developed
    over the past 75 years which are as annihilistic and zero sum murderous as your
    mind can fathom. This final protocol of extermination is I suspect he intended
    goal for the US and EU as well as all large population centers across the
    globe. It will be a total loss of life for the vast amount of civilization.

    Keep in mind as well, I know what they know, the earth operates upon many
    different currents both sea and air. They are vastly different currents in the
    southern hemisphere than the northern hemisphere.

    Knowing this might just save you and yours bacon if you can get your head
    around this. I served in the Navy a long time ago as well and knowing what we
    had then in our arsenal was bewildering and humbling. What we have today kills
    with a depth of efficiency your psyche simply cannot grasp.

    When the first 1 to 4 nukes go off in what we suspect are preloaded targets in
    the US, assuming the INTEL I have seen is correct, as many as 20 to 30 cities
    in the US are now already preloaded.

    Just a couple EMP blast is enough to wipe out virtually every circuit in the
    northern hemisphere of north America. No matter how much prepping you do,
    unless you are underground and provisioned for at least 3 to 5 years assuming
    no fallout exists following in the aftermath of this scenario, you will have
    nothing to come up too.

    You need to be nimble, fast and super smart about where you go and more
    importantly, you simply disappear into the south and never return. The entire
    concept of a Constitution will only remain for those left alive.

    What will you fight for? How about the right to simply exist? There will be
    survivors in pockets, but that life will be a hell on earth I myself cannot
    even get my head around. I would not want to exist and eek out a life sucking
    psyche destroying mental explosion of insanity just dealing with day to day

    You must understand dear friend, I don’t see these men and woman as cowards, I
    see them as super intelligent for making these gut wrenching choices.

    When faced with a zero sum game, the winnings are still zero. There is no
    winner, only death, sorrow, starvation and mutation of those poor unfortunate
    souls who lived.

    If I were you, I’d re-evaluate your bravado and condemnation MR. If you stay,
    you will surely perish and likely will never even use a single round on an
    enemy you will never even see coming. If you’re lucky, you’ll never even see it
    coming mate and you’ll just be vaporized. Radiation death is slow and horrid.
    The HELL – absolute Hell that is unleashed via plagues and sickness, starvation
    and those who will blow your face clean off for your shoes or a mouthful of
    food or water… you should be so lucky to die first.

    The powers that be understand how to essentially cull humanity. They will pull
    the trigger, the lights will go out, those not killed by disease or a blast
    will turn into the natural predators’ we are.

    9 meals from ANARCHY mate and then the human beast which will do anything to
    survive comes out and those left behind will rip men and woman’s flesh to
    shreds with their bare hands to survive will be exactly what you will

    All of you who read this best get a real grip, a real dose of reality here and
    understand there will be no winning of anything as there will be nothing to

    May whatever god you pray to help us all. That dear friend is about as close to
    the reality of how it goes down as you can get. No sugar coated BS in order to
    sell you supplies from this veteran. This will be an extermination of the vast
    majority of humanities children.

    And lastly, what happens to all the nuclear power plants left to rot and CHINA
    SYNDROME out? Hmmm… you got an answer for that? Anyone? The bottom line is
    simple, if this comes even close to half of the bitch slapping I just gave most
    of you who have this “they are cowards for leaving attitude” We are
    all screwed as there is no place on earth that will survive no matter where you

    Not even those in the bunkers will survive this. What happens after this…

    A new species will evolve from – Humanities Childrens End Game.

  • Ady

    people who have power do not let go, and its going to be your police, army, navy , airforce , that will keep it for them and they are paid to kill people ! YOU ?

  • Eddy vinny

    If you have anything, those who we count on to protect our society will be the first line of government in martial law to come and take what you have. Law Enforcement academies teach that everyone should have at least have a 2 week supply of necessary items for each family member and this is just common sense. Those who live daily on the neighborhood store will be without after 3-4 days and will be the hordes. After years and years our own government started storing necessary items last year but don’t count on them those are for those figures who will be over the normal population , who say let them eat cake!

  • leg’o’lamb

    Yes we are better off with the internet. Television, the radio and books any form of media really is controlled to such extremes the internet is the last stand for free information and now that is under attack.

  • Mamaof5

    I have recently read of 2 Arkansas families who are considered “preppers”. They each had 7 of their children (all that still lived in their homes) taken away by officials for obscure reasons. They homeschooled, minded their own business, etc., and now they need everyone’s prayers.

  • Disquss1000

    Information is the tool that the state uses to control the masses but the people have to first give that information to the state in order for the state’s system to be effective. Unless freedom-loving Americans learn to take control of their information profiles they are destined to become slaves to the system. I recently read a good book available on Amazon about this called: The Privacy Book: How To Gain and Maintain Your Privacy.

  • PraiseGod

    May God be with us.

  • Allison Wanamaker

    Point 1. Those “International Building Codes” are actually developed here in the US by Union Tradespeople, and then “adopted” by the rest of the world, but each municipality has a choice in whether or not to adhere to them or develop their own code. International code does not in fact require a municipal water supply, just a running water supply. Well water is still legal. However, using city sewers without a fee is not.

  • G Gordon Liddy

    Stop blaming Obama. He doesn’t dictate the rules to the EPA. Global warming I real retards.

  • MargfromTassie

    “We are being transformed into a socialist police state….”
    As Gerald Celente says, the U.S. is rapidly becoming a FASCIST state, not socialist. Fascism is the close alliance between the Government and the industrial and corporate elites for the benefit of the latter. You can have democratic ‘socialism’ as in the Scandinavian countries where all essential services are owned by the elected representatives of the people, and all citizens are guaranteed basic human rights and welfare, and free and fair elections are still held. You can also have corrupted socialism, as in oligarchic communist states. But fascism can never be democratic, as its sole intent is for the wealth and power transfer away from the mass of people to the corporate elites. ‘Socialism’ per se isn’t bad, as many Americans have been brainwashed from McCarthy days to believe. Some people believe that the ideas Jesus preached accord closer to socialism than capitalism, especially the type of capitalism that exists today.
    So, Mike, you might be better to use the words ‘totalitarian’, ‘elitist’, ‘undemocratic’, or ‘autocratic’ instead of ‘socialist’.
    ( And no, I am not a socialist or communist schill – just have an interest in political philosophy).

  • j m.

    well said Nick! That flowed so smooth…and its so true! I love your outspokenness!

    • William Beattie

      Check out the voting statistics, it was YOUR generation that elected this freedom hating president, not ours. You talk big, but know little. Try thinking for yourself instead of letting the Lame Stream Media tell you what to think.

      • j m.

        I just saw your reply. How can one person be responsible for their generation? And secondly are you so naive in all your wisdom to really think your vote counts? Its all preplanned my friend…surprise! How do you like your democracy now? And if I wanted to I could bash your generation for being in the Congress that is too scared to impeach even though he has a proven record of treason 6 times over. You think i dont know anything..Ill orbit concepts around you while you stutter if you like…

  • Dustin

    This crap is all of our faults lazy complacency has lead to this we all just want to be free but no one seems to want to fight back talk is cheap arm your self prepping is fine but don’t be a traitor by leaving or just talking on the Internet walk the street yelling you have the human right to live free

  • Anne Mallin

    We love your honesty! Never deny the mess they left us in…. you bet us kids are bitter! College loans, .. what good are they?
    The H-B1 visas took most jobs, .. that were left.
    Computers predicted to do away with jobs since forever… and clintons +obummer flood the country with people from every other country.
    I consider any person who took a job in the military to have been very deceived.Actually believed they were ‘fighting for USA’..
    What a joke !
    Now they wanna bring these guys home?
    To WHAT?
    Jobs, uhhhmmm…….. nope.
    Military is just another word for welfare pups to us!
    Cream of the crop led astray.
    I hope they wake up in time to come home and kick out all the foreign nations in the USA.

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