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America The Divided: Everyone Knows We Have Problems But There Is Very Little Agreement On Solutions

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Argument - Public DomainA house divided against itself will surely fall.  America is more divided today than it has been in decades, and the deep divisions that are tearing us apart continue to get even worse.  In fact, a newly released Rasmussen Reports national survey discovered that 67 percent of voters believe that America is even more divided now than it was four years ago.  We are angry, we are frustrated and we love to fight with one another, but none of this strife and discord is getting us anywhere.  What most Americans can agree on is that we are facing tremendous problems as a nation.  One average of recent polls found that only 26 percent of Americans believe that this country is heading in the right direction and 63.8 percent of Americans believe that this country is heading in the wrong direction.  Unfortunately, there is very little agreement on what the solutions to our problems are.  That is where the division is.  As a nation, we no longer have a shared set of values or principles that provides a foundation for our decisions.  Everyone just kind of does whatever is right in their own eyes, and the result is chaos.  At a minimum, the U.S. Constitution was supposed to bond all of us together, but it has become clear that very few of our lawless politicians have any respect for that document at this point.  And the American people must not have too much respect left for the Constitution either, because they keep sending the very same politicians back to Washington over and over again.  Unless a miracle happens, everyone is going to keep pulling in different directions, and that is going to continue ripping our country to shreds.

The issues that divide us are countless.  The following are just a few examples…

-Illegal Immigration



-Government Debt

-U.S. Military Intervention In Foreign Countries

-Gay Marriage


-Racial Relations


-Shipping Our Jobs Overseas

-Cost Of Living/Inflation

-The Gap Between The Wealthy And The Poor

-Social Security/Medicare/Entitlements

-The Size And Role Of Government


-Political Correctness

-Sexual Morality

-Global Warming/Climate Change

-Guns/Gun Control

-Common Core

-Corporate Corruption

-Government Surveillance

-The Emerging Big Brother Police State

-The War On Drugs

-The War On Terror

-U.S. Relationship With Israel

-The Role Of Faith In Society

I could go on and on with this list, but I think that you get the point.

If you pick just about any issue on that list, there are large numbers of Americans that want to take us one way and large numbers of Americans that want to take us exactly in the opposite direction.  In many instances, both sides consider their opponents to be the epitome of evil.

Sadly, the fights that take place among those that are supposed to be on the same side are often even more disturbing.  Some of the most bitter fighting that I have ever witnessed has been between people that should be working together.  In fact, it often seems like a lot of people would rather fight others in their own “movement” than do something constructive.

And actually the establishment loves when we fight with one another.  The more divided that we are, the easier we are to control.

I am often asked if I think that there is any hope for a political solution in this country.

I wish that I could be more optimistic when I answer, but as divided as this country is right now I see absolutely no hope for a political solution on the national level any time soon.

Even though Darth Vader has a higher favorability rating than any 2016 White House contenders, it is inevitable that one of them (with the full backing of the elite) will be our next president.  And even though a few incumbents will be knocked out of Congress in 2014 and 2016, history has shown us that incumbents typically have a victory rate of more than 80 percent in election after election.

We keep sending the same jokers back to D.C. again and again and yet we continue to keep expecting different results.

Are we insane or what?

In a previous article, I noted a whole bunch of other polls and surveys that show how dissatisfied the American people have become with our government…

#1 65 percent of Americans are dissatisfied “with the U.S. system of government and its effectiveness”.  That is the highest level of dissatisfaction that Gallup has ever recorded.

#2 66 percent of Americans are dissatisfied “with the size and power of federal government”.

#3 70 percent of Americans do not have confidence that the government will “make progress on the important problems and issues facing the country in 2014.”

#4 Only 8 percent of Americans believe that Congress is doing a “good” or “excellent” job.

#5 Only 4 percent of Americans believe that it would “change Congress for the worse” if every member was voted out during the next election.

#6 60 percent of Americans report feeling “angry or irritable”.  Two years ago that number was at 50 percent.

#7 53 percent of Americans believe that the Obama administration is “not competent in running the government”.

#8 An all-time low 31 percent of Americans identify themselves as Democrats.

#9 An all-time low 25 percent of Americans identify themselves as Republicans.

#10 An all-time high 42 percent of Americans identify themselves as Independents.

Clearly the American people are sick and tired of politics as usual.

But even if we voted out every single member of Congress, who would we replace them with?

That is where not having a shared set of values and principles comes into play.

Even if we could start from scratch, the new politicians that the American people would send to Congress would not suddenly look like the founding fathers.

That is because we no longer believe in the same values and principles that they did.

Instead, an entirely new Congress would probably end up looking very much like the old Congress did.

I wish that national unity was just as easy as saying something like this: “Come on guys – let’s all just get together and agree to do what is right for the country.”

That sounds really good, but what is right for the country?

In America today, there is very little agreement about what is right and wrong anymore.

And politically, it is hard enough to get a handful of people to agree on much of anything these days, much less the millions upon millions of people that would be required to form a viable political movement.

So no, I don’t believe that there will be a political solution on the national level any time soon.  The government that we have already reflects what is in the hearts of the American people.

Until we start seeing hearts change on a widespread basis, we are not going to see any significant change in Washington.

  • Firstgarden

    “.. One nation, NOT under God
    Divisible, with shrinking Liberty,
    And Injustice for all.”

  • Dan Hanner

    Can’t agree on what to comment on but I will say that the Internet and social media played a major role in this with the exchanging of ideas.

  • K

    How can any people continue in a world with no facts. What most people consider as facts, is nothing but opinion. And those few facts, which have stood the test of time. Are often dismissed as opinion. There are laws that enslave men, and laws that set them free. Even this simple concept, is no longer understood. Safety is desired more than freedom. So they turn this once great Country, into a prison. All in an attempt to feel safe. Life is not safe, freedom is not free. When people can agree on these two things, change is possible. I do not expect to see it in my lifetime.

    • Mike Smithy

      You have touched on an interesting thread. I think you would enjoy reading “The Fourth Turning” by William Strauss and Neil Howe.

    • Firstgarden

      When most people “think”, they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

    • Cynical Guy 42

      The public schools in this country are already prisons – the kids know.

      • K

        Yes, I have heard this from people who still have children in school. When I ask why they put up with it? They just shrug their shoulders. Sad how useless the general population is.

        • laura m.

          Guy42 & K: Parents who are losers send their kids to gov schools. Savvy people do not. I refuse to have any interaction with these flops. Ref to article: As for patriots divided, groups thru the decades have always had infighting, bickering and most are gov infiltrated to break up the groups to incl tea party groups. Join nothing. Focus on small groups of close knit friends/family prep. and interact for bartering and community defense when shtf. Larger groups can split into smaller ones. Voting and org. rallies, protests are useless, stay low key.

          • Mike Smithy

            Not all public schools are atrocious. Unfortunately, not everyone can afford to send their kids to private schools, nor can everyone home school their children. That does not make the parents “losers”. It merely makes them victims of circumstance. An engaged and thoughtful parent should routinely monitor what their children are being taught and deprogram them if necessary.

          • davidmpark

            Agreed. I send my kids to a charter school here in Utah. They’re much better off: higher grades that mean something, actual skills, accountability, children are very well behaved and kind towards each other. And it’s cheaper to operate than the public schools and the teachers are accountable to the parents!

          • Arno Krause

            But higher grades according to whose standards.

          • davidmpark

            State of Utah. But what’s really good is the abilities and skills they’ve developed. Being their father, I do notice such things. And that’s where the standards come through around here – charter schools don’t really have to follow Common Core.

    • Reality

      Thank you K, I always look for your comments, Like “Agent K,” from
      “Men in Black”
      You tell it like it is, complete insight,
      SO lacking nowadays. 🙂

      • K

        Insight, perhaps a little. Mostly it is just seeing what is really there. I can not remember a time, when so many people see, only what they want to see. Hope I have been some small help to you.

    • III

      It is possible to ignore reality but not the consequences of ignoring reality.

      Hence eventually, those who accept the objective truth may survive while those rejecting it, delluding themselves and embracing covenient lies will find survival a whole lot more difficult.

      • K

        Perhaps if their decisions only affected just them. It would not bother me so much. But their foolishness will one day destroy their whole family. And then because there are so many, they will help destroy this Nation.

    • alan

      All the “news” today is news shows that are only opinion or entertainment. Facts are not needed anymore.

  • Imaplaneiac

    No WORRIES! The anti-Christ will soon have the ” answers ” to ALL these and other issues!

    • Firstgarden

      And a smooth operator shall he be;
      But a perfidious devil within.

  • Silver Lodge

    “If you pick just about any issue on that list, there are large numbers of Americans that want to take us one way and large numbers of Americans that want to take us exactly in the opposite direction. In many instances, both sides consider their opponents to be the epitome of evil.”

    Over the last 40-50 years, the country has gone only more to the side of liberal. As a collective, we’re more divided, immoral, and hateful than ever.. Sure, liberalism was the right direction to go..

    • Cynical Guy 42

      Liberals think the country has gotten more conservative because the government’s more in bed with the corporations. Conservatives think the country has gotten more liberal because it’s abandoned its traditional morality.
      So, basically, we’re divided over whether our country is more conservative or liberal.

  • Firstgarden

    Forget ye the article..
    Go straight to the comments!

  • Bill

    Until we find our rudder we will continue to live on the eave of destruction.

  • Bill

    The more we ask “of our government” the longer we will fail.

  • Bill

    Perhaps the rudder America seeks is called “Self Responsibility.”

  • Daystrom2012

    2Chronicles 7:14
    If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

  • davidmpark


    I’ll just go to a safe place with my wife and kids, live on the supplies for a while (I can renew it all); watch old looney tunes, Dukes of Hazzard, A-Team, and other good stuff while the lot of you mother’s sons and daughters go out and butcher some other other mother’s child, and so some other mother’s child can slaughter you. My son and I can give you all a good burial before we rebuild and renew.

    I wanted to avoid a multi-sided civil war; looks more and more inevitable. It was bound to happen. Lust for imaginary power needs conflict. Guess after a while, no amount of good words will change much. I’m just going to focus on the humbled poor, afflicted, and disabled.

    • Firstgarden

      Don’t forget Wonder Woman and Six Million Dollar Man.

      • davidmpark

        I’m sorry, can you elaborate?

      • davidmpark

        OH! You meant the TV shows! Ahhh! My bad! Thanks for the comment FirstGarden!

        • Firstgarden

          Ha, I was wondering about that. Thou art welcome.

  • Doug

    If there is a greater divide than ever before, it is because more people have access to limitless information and free thought (the internet) than ever before. The segments of society choosing to take advantage of this invaluable resource are no longer cattle being easily guided by monopolistic sources of false information like the government sponsored mainstream media and organized religion. Others unfortunately remain locked in that old paradigm and that is why, in my opinion, we are seeing such disagreement.

    Once more people are able to overcome their conditioning and undergo a shift to an elevated level of consciousness, I think we’ll start to see more agreement with how society should operate.

  • Nick

    I really believe we as a nation will have a nasty divorce coming in the near future. The fact of the matter is we have reached the point where “Progressive” liberals and Americans are two distinctly different peoples with a different set of values, a different set of morals, a different culture and vastly different set of beliefs. Furthermore the “Progressive” liberals have made it clear that they have no moral quandary with the idea of using color of law and force to inflict their views on others and subjugate others to their beliefs. These “progressive” liberals are truthfully a break away civilization that wishes to cast America into a shallow grave to be replaced with their fickle and ever shifting view of utopia. They have also demonstrated that they have no problem casting anyone who disagrees with them in a shallow mass grave as well. In my opinion it won’t be very long till they do just that. They are already using every bit of the nations intelligence resources to identify dissent so casting that dissent into gulags and shallow mass graves is only the next logical step.

    • MadAsHellYankee

      Yet according to progressive nazis we should relinquish our weapons for their fake health care and chicken nuggets.

      In the words of Chief Kessler:

      “Come and take em!!!!!!!!!”

      • Mike Smithy

        Yes, the Democrat Party has become very Nazi-esque. Don’t ever register your weapons because it is the first step to confiscation. I FOR ONE WILL FIGHT THESE NAZI-DEMS UNTIL MY LAST DYING BREATH.

        • davidmpark

          They’ve already called for a return to full eugenics – that means killing my disabled wife. I’ll end up protecting her right-to-life, too. Lord, please intervene.

          • Lolwut

            Why would they want to kill of their own support base?
            That being, the dead votes D, that is reason enough to worry.

          • davidmpark

            Yes, the dead do vote! 🙂

            I’m not entirely sure why, but there has been calls for it by Medical Ethicist’s and Eugenics supporters (the Blaze reported on this a couple years ago). Best guess is the same reason the Soviets killed their most adamant supporters along with their greatest adversaries. When the rose-tinted glasses come off and the supporters find out the betrayal, they become more adversarial than the previous objectors.

            And probably because many Leftist’s that we’ve met and some that we’re unfortunately related to have this odd disconnect with reality. The good works done in their group’s names in the media are referenced and held up as a trophy, while few actually want direct contact with the severely disabled. My side of the family were vicious and abusive to my wife, yet claimed to be compassionate and caring. Citing their monetary donations and fundraiser activities… which folks like us never see outside of LDS Welfare (which is non-political and doesn’t do those kinds of fundraisers).

        • III

          Godwin, the argument of the loosers.

          • Mike Smithy

            Mike Godwin is full of crap.

          • davidmpark

            Kinda like the devil convincing mankind he doesn’t exist.

          • Mike Smithy

            Mike Godwin is a self loathing Jew and full crap even-though he believes that he is clever. Godwin’s Law is a bogus axiom against comparisons to fascism that was initiated by a man whose political ramblings have inspired fascist political trends and policies in the modern era. Who else but the fascists does it serve if we can’t point at them and call them what they are. They say that the greatest trick ever played by the devil was convincing the world that he didn’t exist.The atrocities committed in Germany under National Socialism actually happened and refusing to heed the warnings of those who know how it happened is the surest way of seeing it again. As a corollary I say, fascism is the ban on calling a fascist a fascist. Have a nice day.

    • Firstgarden

      noun: a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are NOT ALLOWED TO DISAGREE with the government

      • Arno Krause

        You forgot to mention a dictator ruling in conjunction with major corporate entities. The true definition of Fascism.

    • davidmpark

      They’ve turned on their own already: CDC, WHO, State of Illinois, State of New York all announced they are actively tracking the behaviors and movements of the GLBT community. The reason is the very high outbreak of STD’s.

      The justifications are a concerns of new infections, but also cost of medications with Obamacare (ADA). The anti-viral meds are a combination of 3-4 separate pills. Those meds can cost in the thousands per month – and the CDC and WHO are both recommending taking them as a PRECAUTION for that community – the outbreaks are that bad. Medicare and Medicaid along with the exchanges cannot support the cost.

      I thought they were going for the severely disabled first: should’ve seen that they’d target their own supporters initially.

      • DerpDerp

        Yet, the largest group of people with STD’s are heterosexuals.

        Honestly, this sort of misinformation you’re spouting David helps no one.

        • davidmpark

          Once again, the Leftist misinformation.

          That data came from the CDC, WHO, State of New York, and State of Illinois – you don’t like it; take it up with them.

          The Left wanted Obamacare and this was part of Obamacare; getting into your personal life and controlling behavior. Your lot demanded it, so deal with it.

          • DerpDerp

            So, you’re saying that there are more homosexuals with STD’s than there are heterosexuals with STD’s, right?

            There are approximately 10.8 million (3%) LGBT people in the US, compared to about 350 million heterosexual people. I’m sorry, even if every LGBT person had an STD (which they don’t), that still would not overcome the number of heterosexual people with STDs. The math just isn’t there. Nice try though.

          • davidmpark

            “So, you’re saying that there are more homosexuals with STD’s than there are heterosexuals with STD’s, right?” is attributing a complete libelous fallacy to my namesake to fuel your argument. Typical Leftist misinformation tactic.

            Read about libel laws. You’re getting close to having a situation on your hands.

            You know exactly what I said. If you have a problem with what I said, then contact CDC, WHO, State of New York, and State of Illinois as to why they must track the LGBT citizens. You can add your math of HIV and AIDS in the general populace as an extension of my post, which is fine.

          • JULIAN DONKEYS

            Uh I hate be the bringer of bad tidings dude but what this guy said is true. It goes on in Cali already and in fact it is just “coming out” ha ha. You won’t believe me but they fund these think health tanks and then they used to give free gift cards and other goodies and then track them and send to NSA Law Enforcement also.
            It is ongoing and relates to other “projects”.

  • Antoine

    That Darth Vader thing is surreal, but also quite representative of how messed up people are when it comes to dreams and moral values.

    If I was asked to choose a fictional character for president, I would choose one that would bring good. Like King Arthur, Superman or something along those lines…
    I mean, if I have to dream about something impossible, why on Earth would I dream about being ruled by a dictator, fictional or otherwise?

    People are so messed up that even inside crazy dream land, they actually want someone dark and evil to rule.

    • MadAsHellYankee

      He left out info about that poll. Han Solo and Luke Skywalker were more popular than Lord Vader.

      • Antoine

        That’s definitely reassuring.

        But still, a lot of people voted for Vader… And the latest Star Wars stuff is more and more about the dark side being “cool”.

        It might not be as huge as I thought, but something has definitely changed in the galaxy far far away… and in the minds of the people buying fiction from that franchise.

  • anonymous1

    “And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.” -Mark 3:25

  • anonymous1

    Wasn’t the whole idea of State’s Rights supposed to be the solution to people not being able to agree, or even agree to peacefully disagree? In other words, everyone that believed that mint ice cream was best could all live in one state. Other people that believed that butter pecan ice cream was best all lived in another state. Then, people that didn’t like ice cream at all went and lived in another state. Somewhere along the line, people got too concerned in other people’s business and started demanding that the butter pecan people better start living like mint ice cream was the best. Perhaps this is why the coins in America once had “Mind YOUR business” on them?

    “When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace.” -Jimi Hendrix

    • davidmpark

      Absolutely right; state’s rights and the individual’s rights was the original answer.

      • Firstgarden

        States are being replaced THE STATE.

        • davidmpark

          Very true!

  • chilller

    Divide the country up into conservative and liberal states. It won’t take long for the liberal states to ‘go Detroit’ once they’ve been divorced from the conservative teet that keeps them afloat. After they’ve learned the error of their ways, we deport them all to Latin America and take our states back…

    • Orange Jean

      The problem with that is… some states also have a divide within them. For example, I live in VA… which in the most recent presidential election “turned blue”… but the reality of that is… the liberal parts are mostly in northern VA and a few liberal cities (like Norfolk) in the southern parts. Most of southern VA is conservative.

      Yup we lost this time, but still trying. There is a lot of political contention in this state and a lot of resentment in the southern and especially rural VA that the people in northern VA are mostly people working in DC, towing the DC line… and very often getting most of the benefits from our increasing taxes.

      And what about the recent ideas to divide CA into 6 parts? That is also mostly along liberal vs. conservative parts of the state.

      • III

        The problem with that is that these voters will simply immigrate to new states and vote for the same policies there.

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        • Mike Smithy

          Yes, just like cockroaches.

      • chilller

        I’m in VA too and not the north part. What you’re referring to is the big city part where all liberals reside…in the big, polluting, over populated, dirty cities. Like that everywhere. If nothing else we should divide the cities from the rest of the state…cities fend for themselves and countryside does the same.

      • Dave of OK

        States that are so divided, which includes most states, cities versus the country, will have to duke it out until one overwhelms the other.

        • davidmpark

          Which is funny because they both need each other!

          The cities manufacture and market the raw materials & first stage production from the countryside.

      • gfmucci

        In most states it is mostly a rural/urban divide, with “urban” being within a 10 mile radius of any city over 250,000 people. It appears that dense aggregations of people draw out the “socialist” in us.

      • alan

        The poorer the people get the more hand outs they need and the more likely they vote communist.

        • davidmpark

          Depends on the person. We’re in that situation and I’ve become more and more anti-Leftist and religious. I hate the castrating handouts, but am required by state law to accept (my wife has severe multiple disabilities).

          It’s probably not the poverty itself that does it, but the iniquity that spawned the poverty. An iniquity that raised adults to still retain a strong childish mentality with a passive intellect of an adult. To claim an educated mind, but without ability to use that intelligence for themselves or for civilization. So, they probably retain the emotional need for a mommy and daddy into adulthood.

          • Mike Smithy

            You have a very profound insight.

          • davidmpark

            Thank you! It’s just a working theory, though. Any insights of your own on it, Mike?

    • Mike Smithy


    • anonymous1

      Can those that have always been “Independent,” even before being “Independent” was cool have a nice warm state? Put the Politicians in Minnesota in the winter and move them to Ssouthern Arizona in the summer. Better yet, move all of the illegal immigrants that the Politicians are champions for into the homes of the politicians. Let all of the Americans that still support Legal immigration when 1/3 of Americans are unemployed open their homes to the LEGAL immigrants from Somalia.

  • selaretus

    I’m tired of the ‘liberal’ ‘conservative’ blame game banter. The collapse of what was once America goes far beyond that.

  • PointofVue

    “Even though Darth Vader has a higher favorability rating…..”

    In looking at that poll, it shows what I perceive as a bigger problem and they should expand on the questions. Such as, do you even know who Clinton, Pelosi, and Huckabee are? I was in the audience with a comedian, with 600-800+ people, average age easily over 40+. He asked how many people knew the name of the talking horse on TV. The crowd jubilantly responded, Mr. Ed! Then he asked how many people knew the name of their senators. I heard maybe 10 people, quietly say one name or another. If the older generation is not even paying attention, how can we expect the younger generator too?


    The nation is becoming as balkanized as the former Yugoslavia. Hatreds simmer beneath the surface waiting to explode. In 1960, we were a largely homogenized country that sang from the same hymn book. Those days are long gone. As I write, the Ruling Elites are seeking to replace the native born with a more pliant, fertile population. The Elites have grown weary of the constitution, democracy, the rule of law. They have especially grown weary of what used to be called the Middle Class. The Elites live the illusion they can safely hunker down in their gated sanctuaries. Yet, as I survey the very dangerous international scene, it is obvious to me our testing time is coming, again. It will be as big as WWII. Maybe bigger. We shall have to pull together in ways not seen since those days. Do we still have what it takes within us? Our very survival will rest upon it. One thing is for sure, we need a new crop of leaders. The current ones are simply not up to the task as hand.

  • Bob K

    We are all now focused upon ourselves, our own opinions, our own lives. The fruit of secular humanism = “It’s all about me.” The core political, moral, and ethical values of our grandparents were the glue that held us together in the form of nation, state, and community. Those were founded upon a Judeo-Christian worldview that has largely been rejected. There is a solution, but not the will to embrace it!

    • Andrew

      “grandparents” were as greedy as You are 🙁
      there’s no Judeo-Christian worldview – jewry rejected Messiah and His Holly Spirit ->Mt 21,23-27

      • III

        Roman Empire had a civilization and judea had a sacred book… kinda like the muslims today.

    • anonymous1

      Many grandparents seemed to value community more than current generations. For example, if someone grew fruits and vegetables, everyone in the neighborhood got some of the harvest. If there was a mechanic in the neighborhood, the mechanic would repair things for neighbors. If someone knew that someone else was a single mother, they let her kids come over to sit with their kids and had them all do their homework together. Now, people look at misfortune and say “I’m glad it wasn’t me. They must have deserved that.” Then, they often blame the person that the misfortune happened to: “The house they bought was too expensive. The car they drove was new, they should have only bought used. They should not have ever gone out to eat. They should not have thrown that birthday party for little Jenny.” Hindsight is always 20/20. Most people don’t think they will lose their income and their means of paying for their home, car, and birthday parties. Then, when all they can find is a minimum wage job, people say “Oh, they shouldn’t have bought a new car” as if the downsized person had a minimum wage job all along. Society is definitely narcissistic.

    • davidmpark

      You should read the flame war between Gay Veteran and myself on previous posts. Proves your point.

  • K2

    People regardless of party/ideological affiliation close-to-unanimously agree that some of those mentioned like price rise/inflation, shipping job overseas, govt debt, illegal immigration, corporate corruption, too much govt surveillance etc are problems.

    But there is a division among people, on those other issues.

    • K2

      Add unemployment too to the list of things people are united on.

      • anonymous1

        Americans are even divided on unemployment. I have heard wealthy people complain about those that were downsized getting an unemployment check. I have heard wealthy people complain about welfare checks and disability checks. When I have asked “What should those people do if they can’t find jobs because there are none left, and even fewer that actually pay a living wage” I was told “They should put themselves through college to be more valuable to employers.” When I asked about all of the college educated people that are currently unemployed many wealthy have said “They should go and get a second degree.” Some of the wealthy think poor people choose to be poor and enjoy being poor and that it is the fault of the poor that they are poor. Some of the wealthy enjoy looking down on others as they feel it confirms that they are superior. I have heard wealthy people say that poor people deserve to be poor. The wealthy usually never admit to being greedy, or not paying their employees a living wage while they raise rent prices.

        The poor ask how they are supposed to afford college when they are not even making enough money to eat, buy clothes, or pay rent. The poor ask how they are supposed to juggle multiple jobs and college too since they are barely sleeping now.

        Honestly, I don’t know that I could find 10 Americans that would agree on what colors stop lights are (red, yellow, green). Some people don’t think that there are any problems in America. Some people think that there are problems but they disagree on what the problems are. Others disagree on solutions to the problems. Others are just spinning in circles with their fingers in their ears and don’t realize that they live on planet earth.

        • Drud

          Stop lights are red, AMBER, and green…idiot.

          Well said. The root of the problems we face are cultural. We have been spoiled by seven decades of relative peace and prosperity, and have therefore become decadent and silly. We don’t have enough real problems (lack of food, water, shelter, medicine, etc.) so we have to invent problems.

        • K2

          I am not implying what yo u said doesnt exist, but by unemployment i meant unemployment numbers, and the importance of the problem of unemployment in the country.

  • The reason why people cannot come together on solutions is because the people do not understand the problem. The problem with the world is that people do not understand the problem with the world.

    Everything you listed here is a SYMPTOM of the problem, but the not the problem. Throughout history thousands have spent their time hacking away at the branches of Evil, to only One who is striking at the root.

    There is only one entity with the IMAGINED ‘Authority’ to create all of these ‘problems’. And 90% of people will beg the same entity to ‘fix’ the problems.

    No single individual Evil person could EVER get away with what ‘Government’ gets away with every day.

    What do you suppose would have to exist between the ears of 300 million people in order for them to IMAGINE they must obey the biggest gang of violent criminals on the planet? (Sometimes called the ‘US Government’)

  • dr_rythm

    Collectively speaking, the US and other western nations are insane. Just as an individual can lose his mind when various ideas are in conflict, so can a whole nation. The solution is a shared understanding, one set of rules for all.

    • Cynical Guy 42

      People should have the freedom to form their own opinions and won’t agree on everything, but I agree our nation is going insane. With the immorality, the violence, etc, it doesn’t seem like we’ve a lot of stability.

    • Community College Student

      We’re not the only insane ones. There are guys in Japan with virtual girlfriends.

    • aedelaossa

      Sounds like Putin knows what he is doing!

  • newpapyrus

    One huge problem, IMO, is the fact that we don’t have a truly moderate party that represents the large number of independent voters in this country who are politically turned off by both the extreme left and the extreme right.

    Nothing wrong with having a party that represents the right, and a party the represents the left. But we also need a party that represents the logical center in this country. And until that happens, the polarization between the left and right are going to continue to paralyze social and economic progress in America!


    • III

      So far it is the left and center, won´t be left-right unless the TEA party makes a big comeback in Nov.

      The majority of morons are happy with just complaining and whinning about the situation worsening, not actually do anything about it.

      • kfilly

        The majority of morons don’t even complain. They keep their heads in the sand.

    • Mike Smithy

      Today’s Republican Party platform has become so diluted and watered down that they are centrists. That is precisely why we need a conservative party in this country to represent the political interests of those right of center. That is what the Tea Party is trying to achieve.

  • jox

    In Spain the situation is quite similar: people is sick of politics, everything is corrupted. Both traditional parties are in record low support. The danger is that some ‘revolutionary’ parties are emergin. Next elections will be a complete unknown.

    • III

      They shóuld revolt instead of bitching.

  • Richard O. Mann

    Divide and conquer. Works every time.

  • Kim

    when satan and the demons control the earth there is no solution other than the intervention of God himself.

    in the meantime, love your neighbor as yourself, prepare, and endure.

    • III

      No, its name is Ahriman.

    • GSOB

      1 Corinthians 1:30

  • AzDesertRat

    I’ve argued this point more times than I can remember over the last 10 years or so. The US has reached the point where it is simply too big, and too diverse, to effectively manage on a cohesive level.
    What does someone from, say, southern Arizona have in common with someone from northern Maine? Or someone from Miami with someone who lives in Seattle?
    The answer is “They don’t”, other than a vague notion of “America”, which is actively being undermined in the public school system nationwide, anyway.
    Best thing to do would be to peaceably go our own separate ways into smaller regional nation-states with a mutual defense pact.

    3.930m miles in land area
    44 recognized nations

    Continental United States:
    2.959m miles in land area
    48 recognized States

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      Best thing to do would be to peaceably go our own separate ways into smaller regional nation-states with a mutual defense pact.
      *gasp* You mean the Founders actual Constitution…

  • wally

    Pure and simple. From Cloward and Piven to Salinsky to Zinn. We are being taken over with asymmetrical warfare. What is asymmetrical warfare – Asymmetrical: having parts that fail to correspond to one another in shape, size, or arrangement; lacking symmetry. Warfare: engagement in or the activities involved in war or conflict. Asymmetrical warfare is not uncommon and has been used many times in history, it is chaotic war nothing makes sense and it hits from all sides.

    • justsayin

      Americans must like what the professors teach and what the professors want for the country since people go into debt to learn from them. Student loan debt being 1 trillion + shows a strong support for Universities and what their professors teach.

  • Jodi

    I think we are winning on Common Core & people on all political sides agree that this is bad, its just getting the weasels to agree and take our side. That’s going to be the hard part.

    • davidmpark

      Keep fighting it, Jodi!

  • Dave in OK

    Amen-Amen-Amen, Michael, You have hit the problem squarely: we have no shared values and principles.
    And until we do as a nation, there is no hope for peace and unity.
    We have prided ourselves on our unity; it is even in our country’s name. But unless we turn this around soon, our nation is going to crumble into a series of regional powers made up groups of red states and blue states; New California, New Washington, New Zion, Texarkana, New Dixie, New Concord, with Russia controlling central Alaska, Canada controlling the Great Lakes States and the Pacific coast of Alaska, and Japan controlling Hawaii; with continual warfare between them over the no-man-lands between them. With you, Michael, I do not see us coming together as a country again, without a spiritual revival on a national scale. The United States and Pax America will be looked at and fondly remembered as Pax Romana was during the middle ages.

  • Greg Burton

    Take back the banks, create money that benefits people. Take back the factories, make jobs for people. Take back the MSM, tell the truth to the people. Take back food production, feed the people. Take back health-care, make people healthy. Take back the fore-closed homes, house the people. Take back the police, protect the human rights of the people. Take back the elections, free the people from the hackable electronic voting machines. Investigate 9/11, London 7/7, Madrid 3/11 free the people from the manufactured fear that has enslaved and impoverished them to a Satanic banking/drug cartel NWO.

  • Priszilla

    If you want change, then change.

  • Firstgarden

    “The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
    But while men slept, an enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
    But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
    So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
    He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
    Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.”

    • Firstgarden

      And his disciples came unto him, saying, “Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.”
      He answered and said unto them,
      “He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
      The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
      The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
      As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
      The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
      And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
      Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. WHO HATH EARS TO HEAR, LET HIM HEAR.”

  • Steve smith

    One thing everybody should do is vote out the incumbents. These bastards that have been senators for thirty or forty years need to go! A rank newcomer to Washington would probably get more done than an incumbent who is beholden to special interest groups.
    While I am on the subject of special interest groups and people who have their hands out, cut off all foreign aid to Israel, if the only reason they are surviving is because of our 4 billion plus subsidy……then they should be allowed to fall. We have WAY too much going on here in the US we need to deal with, strengthening our borders, stimulating jobs, rolling back the omnipresent police state!
    Vote the incumbents out!! Especially Charlie Rangel! What a douchebag, he should be in prison!

  • Priszilla

    Sometimes it helps to choose not to be angry or depressed or afraid any more.
    When I wait for the bus I get upset, so I walk.

    I try not to be in the same place as people who make me angry, upset, depressed, afraid.

    A few years ago I was so upset with the service at my bank, that I just left, crossed the street and opened an account at another bank.

    I told the office the new account number for transfer of the salary, and used the first account for all payments until that money was used up, except a few pounds.
    Now, THEY contacted me again and again, because they wanted to close that account. LOL

  • fukishima

    “And now the EPA is considering adding MORE radiation to the air and water!”
    The Japanese beat them to it !

    • Firstgarden

      “fukishima” – such language!

  • Bill

    Forget the sheeple, they have not a clue. Now understand that the so called “smart people have not a clue either. The manure is hitting the fan NOW and it’s 10x worse than you can imagine. Read between the lines-the world is going to h— at warp speed, faster than you can measure. We are done, doomed, cooked-stick a fork in it- it is OVER!!!!

  • Simon Hardinsky

    From what I hear from what people tell me it feels like America really wants to get it together as the great nation it is. All of our different races and people who have come to this great country for a better way of life and to be free.
    I do see hope and I know that we need each other to be the United States of America. I am putting my talents to work to make that happen too. If we each can be patient and accepting of each other and know that in our hearts we will be willing to work to make this happen when the opportunity arises and when it does, don’t worry, you will know.

  • Priszilla

    i’d vote GREEN.

  • davidmpark

    Maybe I should stop feeding the trolls?

  • frank1569

    It’s not like we’re alone – half the countries on Earth are in just as bad shape if not worse.

    The psychotic wealth-addicted ‘elite’ have become way Too Big To Care. And the majority of the rest of us have basically given up, aware that the Goliath we face is the most ruthless and well-armed in the known universe.

    Better to just kick back, enjoy life as best ya can, and let the world burn. There’s no turning back now.

  • Jared

    Why don’t we just make all the states leave the constitution and become independent this should change thing real fast.


    What it come down to is it doesn’t matter what side you take we are going to crash and burn one way or the other.

  • Allan Elliott

    Until we get the money out of politics, shut down the revolving door and end the corportocracy, there will be no change. That is the thing that is driving all of this.

    • Orange Jean

      I would LOVE to see that concept applied to “Global Warming”… I bet in a minute you’d have the most fervent of their supporters back tracking. The only reason they support “cap and trade” (by whatever name they are currently calling it)… is to fleece the taxpayers and line their deep pockets.

  • alan

    I think now the politicians realize they can not fix anything and fear for their jobs and money they stole. So they start more problems and divert attention away from themselves. The news has been a real circus the last month or so and getting worse.

  • GSOB

    John 3:8

  • 2Gary2

    the “official” corporate tax rate is 35%, but according to the
    Government Accountability Office, the effective, or real, rate corporations pay
    is 12.6%; clearly one of the lowest in the world. The 12.6% figure does
    not take into account corporations that claim no income or profit, or
    the inordinately large number of the richest corporations that pay
    nothing in taxes and get a refund from other taxpayers; 12.6% is the
    effective rate for corporations that do pay taxes.

    Tax the greedy to help the needy

    • Cynical Guy 42

      I could go for closing loopholes and unreasonable tax breaks, but keep the reasonable deductions in. I would also like to add that tax the corporations too hard and they will go someplace else – after all, they want to make as much money as possible.

    • Joe Kleinkamp

      What? Tax the greedy? And scare away all those fat cats paying $30,000 for a plate of Obama fundraiser BS stew. Never gonna’ happen dreamer.

    • liberalsEQUALexcrement

      Gary’s solution is more taxes, LMAO x 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

    • liberalsEQUALexcrement

      tax all the racist democrats, all 100% of them

    • davidmpark

      So, you’re still on welfare?

    • 1G25

      The “needy” like you “need” to get a job and support themselves.

  • Sandbagger

    Captain America is going to be black.

    Most would agree that the color white represents good and black represents evil in most children’s stories.

    Captain America’s change of color is sending a signal that America’s change is for evil.

  • Georgiaboy61

    Re: “America The Divided: Everyone Knows We Have Problems But There Is Very Little Agreement On Solutions”

    The powers-that-be, the political/economic elites who really run this country, have long depended upon a divide-and-conquer strategy whose chief aim is to keep various factions of the people fighting over one contentious issue or another – and thereby disunited and not a threat to those who hold wealth and power.

    Above all, the oligarchs – who are small in number – fear the mass of a united people; thus, the elites have striven mightily to sow discord and disagreement amongst the masses using such “wedge issues” as gay rights, feminism, immigration policy, and many more. In addition to wedge issues and manufactured controversies, the oligarchs have also used the time-tested tactic of breads-and-circuses – diversions and trivia of various kinds to distract the people from what their rulers are doing to them.

    Thus far, their strategy has worked like a charm; the nation is fast-going down the tubes, and everyday people remain as distracted and divided as ever.

  • liberalsEQUALexcrement

    we all agree that liberals are human excrement


  • davidmpark

    And crazy as all get out!

    You should read our last spat about gay marriage. He/she went nuts!

    Good to hear from ya, Mal! 🙂

  • davidmpark

    Along with projection and hypocrisy.

  • Roddy Pfeiffer

    In the democracy called America, the citizens choose their leaders by voting. In China, the leaders are chosen for the citizens.
    In America, most of the people do not support the President or Congress; they don’t believe their leaders are making the right decisions.
    In China, the overwhelming majority of citizens feel their lives are better now than 10 years ago, and that their leaders are making wise decisions.
    Funny how that democracy stuff works. Or doesn’t.

    • justsayin

      The USA is not a Democracy. ” …. and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands.”

      • Roddy Pfeiffer

        Not for a long time.

  • grumpyhillbilly

    How can you have a rational discourse over problems when the one side sees the real problems as something to take advantage of?

  • 1G25

    “Even if we could start from scratch, the new politicians that the American people would send to Congress would not suddenly look like the founding fathers.”

    Wrong. If we started from scratch, only white adult male tax-paying property owners would be allowed to vote. Minority tails wouldn’t be wagging the dog, and as most of the electorate described above would be middle-class working men, corporate cronyism would be kept to a minimum, if allowed at all, since said electorate would also be better educated than the dross that is handed high school diplomas today, which pathetic types will never own property .

  • liberalsEQUALexcrement

    2gary2 posts nowhere except this little website. he IS the owner of this website

  • English Kev

    no he’s just a natural born tw@t

  • Student

    Why and when did the US government decide We The People are the enemy?

  • Bill

    The arrogant imposter must be impeachef.

  • Colin

    The Founding Fathers had beliefs that I don’t share. Many believed that blacks and Native Americans were a lesser form of human and that women should not be involved in politics.

    The issue that I have read is that the Internet makes us more insular. If a person likes to read a point of view, he or she will go to that website. They may not take the risk of going to a site that has a contrary view.

    And people seem to behave in ways that are contrary to what is in their best interest. Mississippi has the highest number of SNAP receptients, yet the people in that state vote for politicians who want to cut funding for SNAP.

    • III

      They where right about that.
      If you disagree, you can Always spend some time in Detroit or any other city where they are the majority and see how you are welcomed.

  • davidmpark

    It’s my sacred duty and privilege! 🙂

  • Centurion53

    Michelle Obama…………

    “Yes…we need all of you Deranged Obama Zombies to go out there and commit massive vote fraud to help all of the Demo Rats get elected….just like you did in 2008 and 2012!! The Destruction of the
    United States of America is not finished and I and Barack will not rest until that job is done!!! So F Off Whitey…we’re Comin’ for YOU!!!”

  • tacoma

    During the decade of 1860s, the North considered the South the epitome of Evil. And the South considered the North the reincarnation of the Devil. Not to mention every shade of good & evil among any large group of people across the land.

    So they proceeded to fix the problem. The fix is somewhat nasty, more than 500,000 dead and 5,000,000 injured. But the country survived.

    Today, we can see a few countries practicing their fix of national division – Syria and Ukraine currently, Egypt and Libya of late.

    Anything in human affairs can be fixed. The price is usually high, but human beings never had problem paying it throughout history.

  • DerpDerp

    “But even if we voted out every single member of Congress, who would we replace them with?”

    “Instead, an entirely new Congress would probably end up looking very much like the old Congress did.”

    The reason for that is simple: in order to make into the federal races for president/senator/representative, one must sell their soul to their big campaign contributors. No one can make it to the national stage without special interest help. The elections are all rigged, because every candidate is beholden to the special interests that fund them.

    As long as this sort of thing remains legal, you’ll get the same government which acts in the best interest of the political parties and their big campaign donors; not the American people.

  • Cheesy Mogul

    Divide & conquer…
    After many centuries the same ol’ trick is still working perfectly.
    And the subjects still won’t get it…

  • Chris Linde

    WTF is there to debate about? When you abandon the beliefs, values, and practices that brought you success…then why would you expect your success to continue?
    If turning the steering wheel heads you toward a brick wall…then what is there to debate about? Turn the wheel back over!

  • davidmpark

    Uh, I don’t remember mentioning Africa.

    The big problem that most people giving me a interesting time here are failing to realize is that the LGBT community is being tracked and scrutinized because of the HIV outbreak. That’s what disturbs me. The other disturbing problem is the LGBT community as a whole is not taking precautions that led to the outbreak.

    As for HIV’s origins or being a biological weapon; I’m not concerned about that possibility. More concerned about what it’s doing and what civilization can do to beat it. Besides, HIV seems more likened to the black death that wiped out half of Europe in the middle ages. This new outbreak of Ebolavirus is transmitted in similar ways to HIV and the black death. Some folks of European descent have been known as immune carriers of HIV; believed to come as a leftover from surviving the black death.

    If the LGBT people (they are people) need to be tracked to save lives, then I think some more honesty about such programs and actions is definitely needed from the agencies and govs to prevent abuse.

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  • Batman

    Direct democracy doesn’t work either – look at CA. It sounds lovely and is a great concept and has been successful for a country with 8M people, but there is no way it translates to a society with 300M. Apples and watermelons my friend…

    • WolfThom


      I disagree: Direct Democracy works – it functioned for Switzerland and it functions for Iceland and Venezuela…plebiscites…
      The central point is: Decentral organisation – no Centralism as the Federal Reserve System of the FED, fought by Ron Paul and his son!
      The key to success of direct Democracy is: Strong Federalism!
      The present European Union EU is a centralistic construct, a non democratic buerocracy concentrated in Bruessel….as in former Sowjet Union with Moskau and Eastern Germany with Eastern Berlin…it should be a European Union with strong regions and national staates as independent republics, like the members of the EFTA (Switzerland Norway, Iceland…)….

      The Scandinavian states have a successful Economy with a strong middle class, where most people are working and generating the most jobs…
      Another sucessful economic example is Switzerland, and is Iceland and is Canada…or Chile…
      protectionism works better than neoliberal free trade and Monetarism of Milton Friedman…or the proven wrong economic politics of austerity!

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