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America’s Roads Have Been Turned Into A Revenue Generating Surveillance Grid

Traffic Stop - Photo by DarkKomodoWhat do speed traps, parking tickets, toll roads, speed cameras and red light cameras all have in common?  They are all major revenue sources for state and local governments.  All over America today there are state and local governments that are drowning in debt.  Many have chosen to use "traffic enforcement" as a way to raise desperately needed revenue.  According to the National Motorist Association, issuing speeding tickets raises somewhere between 4.5 billion and 6 billion dollars in the United States each year.  And the average price of a speeding ticket just keeps going up.  Today, the national average is about $150, but in many jurisdictions it is far higher.  For example, more than 16 million traffic tickets are issued in the state of California each year, and the average fine is approximately $250.  If you are wealthy that may not be much of a problem, but if you are a family that is barely scraping by every month that can be a major financial setback.  Meanwhile, America's roads are also being systematically transformed into a surveillance grid.  The number of cameras watching our roads is absolutely exploding, and automated license plate readers are capturing hundreds of millions of data points on all of us.  As you drive down the highway, a police vehicle coming up behind you can instantly read your license plate and pull up a whole host of information about you.  This happened to me a few years ago.  I had pulled on to a very crowded highway in Virginia and within less than a minute a cop car had scanned me and was pulling me over because one of my stickers had expired.  But these automated license plate readers are being used for far more than just traffic enforcement now.  For example, officials in Washington D.C. are now using automated license plate readers to track the movements of every single vehicle that enters the city.  They know when you enter Washington, and they know when you leave.  So where is all of this headed?  Do we really want to live in a "Big Brother" society where the government constantly tracks all of our movements?

Back in the old days, the highways of America were great examples to the rest of the world of the tremendous liberties and freedoms that we enjoyed.  Americans loved to hop into their vehicles and take a drive.  But now government is sucking all of the fun out of driving.  The control freak bureaucrats that dominate our political system have figured out that giant piles of money can be raised by turning our roads into revenue raising tools.

At this point things have gotten so bad that even some police officers are admitting what is going on.  Just check out what a few of them told Car and Driver...

The president of a state police union isn’t pretending it doesn’t happen. James Tignanelli, president of the Police Officers Association of Michigan union, says, “When elected officials say, ‘We need more money,’ they can’t look to the department of public works to raise revenues, so where do they find it? Police departments.

“A lot of police chiefs will tell you the goal is to have nobody speeding through their community, but heaven forbid if it should actually happen—they’d be out of money,” Tignanelli says.

Police Chief Michael Reaves of Utica, Michigan, says the role of law enforcement has changed over the years. “When I first started in this job 30 years ago, police work was never about revenue enhancement, but if you’re a chief now, you have to look at whether your department produces revenues,” he says. “That’s just the reality nowadays.”

And as the economy has gone downhill, many jurisdictions have massively jacked up traffic fines.  According to the Los Angeles Times, various traffic fines in the Los Angeles area are far higher than they once were...

If you're caught running a red light in Los Angeles, be prepared to shell out $446, up from $271 eight years ago. Make a rolling right turn at a stoplight and the ticket comes to $381 -- more than double what it cost in 2008.

And of course the cost to the driver does not end with the ticket.  Your car insurance will likely go up as well.  In fact, one study found that a driver that just gets one speeding ticket will pay an additional 20 percent for car insurance for the next three to six years.

That can add up to a lot of money.

But politicians just keep wanting to find a way to issue even more tickets.  One of the hottest trends all over the country is to automate the issuing of traffic tickets by installing cameras.  According to USA Today, this has become a huge growth industry...

Sales of the cameras have nearly quadrupled since companies moved to digital and wireless technology in the mid-2000s. The number of local contracts for cameras was up to 689 last year, from 155 in 2005, according to industry data complied by market leader American Traffic Solutions (ATS).

And these automated traffic cameras can raise an enormous amount of cash.  Just check out what has been happening in Washington D.C....

The speeding and traffic light cameras have become more lucrative as their number in the District has increased. Combined, they issued tickets valued at $24.4 million in 2007. That figure more than doubled by 2010, to $50.9 million, and it reached $84.9 million in the last fiscal year.

But as annoying as those traffic cameras are, automated license plate readers are perhaps even more insidious.

The amount of data that these automated license plate readers are capturing is astounding.  The following is from a recent article by the Electronic Frontier Foundation...

Photographing a single license plate one time on a public city street may not seem problematic, but when that data is put into a database, combined with other scans of that same plate on other city streets, and stored forever, it can become very revealing. Information about your location over time can show not only where you live and work, but your political and religious beliefs, your social and sexual habits, your visits to the doctor, and your associations with others. And, according to recent research reported in Nature, it’s possible to identify 95% of individuals with as few as four randomly selected geospatial datapoints (location + time), making location data the ultimate biometric identifier.

Our license plates have essentially become "our papers" which the government can read whenever it would like without even asking for our permission.

According to L.A. Weekly, local police agencies in the L.A. area have captured more than 160 million data points on private citizens using these automated license plate readers...

L.A. Weekly has learned that more than two dozen law enforcement agencies in Los Angeles County are using hundreds of these "automatic license plate recognition" devices (LPRs) — units about the size of a paperback book, usually mounted atop police cruisers — to devour data on every car that catches their electronic eye.

The L.A. County Sheriff's Department and the Los Angeles Police Department are two of the biggest gatherers of automatic license plate recognition information. Local police agencies have logged more than 160 million data points — a massive database of the movements of millions of drivers in Southern California.

Each data point represents a car and its exact whereabouts at a given time. Police have already conducted, on average, some 22 scans for every one of the 7,014,131 vehicles registered in L.A. County.

As the use of these devices becomes more widespread and they become even more sophisticated, eventually the government will know where almost all of us are and what almost all of us are doing at all times.

The following is a brief except from a Washington Post article that detailed how automated license plate readers are now being used to create a "dragnet" that will track the movements of all vehicles from the time that they enter Washington D.C. to the time that they leave...

More than 250 cameras in the District and its suburbs scan license plates in real time, helping police pinpoint stolen cars and fleeing killers. But the program quietly has expanded beyond what anyone had imagined even a few years ago.

With virtually no public debate, police agencies have begun storing the information from the cameras, building databases that document the travels of millions of vehicles.

Nowhere is that more prevalent than in the District, which has more than one plate-reader per square mile, the highest concentration in the nation. Police in the Washington suburbs have dozens of them as well, and local agencies plan to add many more in coming months, creating a comprehensive dragnet that will include all the approaches into the District.

This is just the beginning.

For now, as long as you carefully obey all traffic laws and you don't work in a major city like Washington D.C., the changes that are happening probably do not affect you too much.

But the key is to see where all of this is going.  Our roads are slowly but surely being transformed into a revenue generating control grid.  And this is just yet another example of how government feels the need to constantly watch, monitor, track and regulate everything that we do.

Does anyone else feel like the life is slowly being choked out of our society, or am I alone?

Traffic Stop Photo By Jeff Dean

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  • Rodster

    Slowly but surely we are headed towards George Orwell’s 1984 society.

    • markthetruth

      This is true , I always notice the Authors of these Novels have a keen ability to Foresee the Future, as alot of The science Fiction Movies come to Reality . Or are we emulating the Fiction to Come to reality.

      the end…

      • English Kev

        Both Wells and Huxley were members of the 300. THey were fully aware of the agenda.

        • Chris Bieber

          they were not only aware but fully on the front line pushing it down our throats…

      • 2Gary2

        the word a lot is 2 separate words. It is not one word. I do not get why everyone keeps making this error.

        • northernconservative

          Who cares dude. Besides you my guess is very few of us care. Its not life changing….

          • 2Gary2

            I know but I still wanted to point it out as so many make this mistake.

          • seth datta

            ive missed your grade A trolling as to why socialism(cough! nazism) is so great. Welcome back.

          • sharonsj

            Please read a dictionary because you obviously don’t know the difference between the two. And learn some punctuation while you’re at it.

        • bob123454321

          you’re hole point is nighther hear or their

  • markthetruth

    1. My Town people where complaining about the cops overtime , the chief explained that the tickets that are given on overtime are more then enough to cover it in the budget.

    2. Your Tracked by five items now.
    License Plate.
    Cell Phone.
    Computer
    Camera’s
    Credit or Debit Card.

    3. One thing about the Camera Tickets is they can’t prove who was driving the car at that time !!!

    ” Law’s are Made to be Broken ” and our Government is taking Full Advantage of it !!!

    the end…

  • saintmatty

    Court fee will be charged regardless of guilt or innocence. It is a major rip off the an innocent person must pay a court fee. Bullshit!

    • markthetruth

      And what about the inconvenience of going to court and waiting for hours, and having to miss work if your lucky to have a job !

      the end…

  • Stezie

    Even if you ignore all of this surveillance, there is still one major problem: America’s roads are pretty crappy. Actually, it’s not just the roads; the entire infrastructure is decaying. According to some estimates, the US government would have to invest several trillion dollars in infrastructure over the next two decades just to meet first-world standards, and that simply isn’t going to happen with the way things are going.

    It’s often said that when a society is in decline, one can see that there is physical decay, along with social decay, as well. In the end, this is simply just another sign. Look at America’s inner cities to see what I mean.

    • markthetruth

      Our highways will never Fixed Right, in order to Pave the Roads right they would need to be paved all lanes in one directions at a time. Now they do one lane at a time a they end up with a Cold Patch Seam. which cracks, then water gets under it and it breaks apart.

      the end…

    • 2Gary2

      well I will say one good thing about our drop out Governor–he is fixing the roads. He is failing in everything else but WI will have good roads.

    • bob123454321

      it would only cost 2 million to fix the roads…the other 1,999,998,000,000 goes to union thugs and their pensions..

      • sharonsj

        No, the rest of the money goes to the Pentagon for their endless wars.

  • K

    Add to all the drawbacks you mention, the fact that a lot of the money never goes into local coffers. Some of the money from your fines, does not even stay in the Country. You see the company that sets up and maintains the cameras, gets a piece of the action. As much as 40% of the take. Some of these companies are not even U.S. based. The fact that any part of a legally levied fine, can be sent to a private entity, should be illegal. But not anymore it seems. The Feds act like fascists who want full control over you at all times. And local governments, and police act like an old time Chicago mob. Whatever you are doing, they want a piece of the action. What’s next? Cops showing up at your door to collect protection money?

    • Handog

      Well put. Chicago is a prime example. There are toll booths everywhere. Without a sticker on your wind shield you would have to stop every 2.5 miles. But the roads are full of pot holes. The streets are crumbling. Makes you wonder where, or should I say who’s pocket does all that money go to.

      • markthetruth

        What’s next? Cops showing up at your door to collect protection money?

        They Don’t have to It’s in your Taxes !

        the end…

        • K

          That is the point. They seem to no longer feel taxes are enough.

      • Americanius

        Pensions. Especially in I’ll. State and local governments have severely underfunded them and they are looking for any means to keep from going bankrupt.

        • seth datta

          nope. the companies are offshored so money can be taken from americans. You can’t rule a financially independent populace. Global socialism at its finest.

  • Syrin

    STOP !! Ze must show me zein papers !! Seig Heil Obama !!

    • markthetruth

      That’s why it’s better to be an ” ILLEGAL ”

      the end…

      • Cripus Attiks

        This is even more moronic than Syrin’s comment.
        The article points out various ways that lawbreakers are detected and penalized; NOTHING suggests that it is better to break the law, or to travel across borders, whether lawfully or not.

    • Diogenes

      Oh for crying out stupid loud!
      The article points out that it is possible to see where you have *been* already. There is nothing about getting permission to go there. And no where in the piece is any reference to the President. Do you have nothing else to direct your displeasure toward?
      Get a life!

    • seth datta

      This comment is hilarious! Who couldve predicted that an AA man would be the one to usher in the nazism of the modern era. You couldnt make it up!

  • Handog

    Here in Texas there is a camera on every stop light in the city. It’s creepy. There are toll roads with cameras that scan your lic. plate and send you a bill.
    I could not agree more, it is one big revenue generating scheme. I really don’t like to drive any more. This police state has made me paranoid. I’m constantly looking at my speed. I dare not cross that yellow line. I know I’m under constant surveillance yet I just received a speeding ticket last month. The Cop said I was doing 40 in a 30 MPH zone. Which was a lie! I took it to court and met with the prosecutor. I ended up pleading no contest, agreeing not to fight it and the ticket will be dismissed. Here’s the thing. I asked if I could do community service because I am unemployed at the moment. He said that was not an option.

    THEY WANT CASH!

    • RICHARD

      My wife got one of those camera ticket for running a red light. It cost 465.00. Can you believe that. I also heard that it was a company from Canada that owned the light and about 80% of the money went to them. Took about 45% of my SSI for that month. What a rip off.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Smith/673386997 Jim Smith

        There are no Canadian companies that own camera systems. Lot’s in the US though.

    • seth datta

      its not about money, its about control primarily.

      • markthetruth

        Been here for a while it’s called

        ” BIRTH CONTROL ! PERIOD…”

        the end…

      • Jodi

        Yes, we live in a society of control freaks.

        • Handog

          USA

          U nder
          S urveillance
          A lways

          • markthetruth

            FREEDOM is now a anagram for ;

            DEFORME
            (Lacking a definition or value)

            the end…

      • sylvaester

        no, it is about the money. Don’t run the light, and there is no problem.

        • bob123454321

          lol except the send tickets even when it’s not you. Im fighting a camera ticket from DC…except I wasn’t there and the pic wasn’t my car and it was a license plate I turned in 2 years ago. Doesn’t matter. They say it has to be me.

        • Seriously?

          Next year it’s “Don’t criticize our political leaders, and there is no problem” or “Don’t refuse to worship Allah and there is no problem”. Tyranny inches its way in.

      • tim ho

        No – it is extracting money to spend without having to acknowledge a tax increase – for fear of rebellion – pick on all those deviants violating the law and none will complain … or so they hope.

      • Brian

        MONEY IS THEIR CONTROL

    • markthetruth

      Cops Break every Traffic Law out There and never pay unless it involves a Accident.

      the end…

      • http://www.facebook.com/gino.venaglia Gino Venaglia

        I stopped a judge once for drunk driving and I was on the carpet faster than a speeding bullet being chastised for doing my job. I f I had my way I would have thrown the A-hole in Jail. The irony of this is that a month later I am in court tp testify on another drunk driver case and the same judge I stopped was presiding.

        • Brack

          Laws are only for the underclass of this society. The elites live by their own set of rules.

          • Brian

            You mean no rules. Justice in their eyes means “JUST US”.

        • Toodles

          Thx for your honesty. I am a lawyer appalled at what the legal profession and judges have done to this nation. If people had any idea they would truly lynch anybody with Esquire or Judge after his name. We have handed our lives over to moral filth.

    • Anne Rockwell

      you still had to pay to get the ticket dismissed?

      • Handog

        Yes. “Court fees” they agreed not to put points on my record if I paid the $150.00

        The other option was to go to trial. My word against the revenue collection agent. Another day in court. If I had lost the case I would have been stuck with additional court fees. Assuming I have a job at that point, the cost of fighting in exceeds 150.00

        And they know it.

        • Anne Rockwell

          I am in TX, and I’ve had enough with the crap you’re dealing with. I am about to go to court soon for speeding 60 in a 45 (I was NOT speeding and I have a witness) and harassed to sign a citation stating “I waive my rights to trial by jury” above the signature line. The office cuffed and detained me for not signing away my rights on the side of the road an eventually let me go. My followup question to you, as a fellow texan, do you think there are enough of us out there willing to push for legislation telling them to back off? This is something I am wrestling with.

          • Handog

            The problem as I see it is that there are so many ways they can and will extract money from us. For example, in TX as you know we must pay for a “safety inspection” sticker for our vehicles regularly. Even on new vehicles. Raising this tax is already on the table among others.
            No wonder disability fraud is going through the roof. It’s becoming too expensive to go to work. The people see the system is a racket so they have no problem playing the system just as they are being played.

    • saintmatty

      Community service will cost the county more. Not a good deal for them. I asked for jail time and I was not granted that! Too much money to house me. You used to have options.

    • cpgone

      “Here in Texas”
      What cities or city in Tx?

      • Adonai Zedek

        dallas

        • cpgone

          They took the red light cams out of Lubbock.
          Im moving there.

    • Texan

      I live in Texas and my wife esp. has noticed the same thing. Freaks her out. Nasty control freak politicians. Thanks Rick Perry. Too bad liberty loving people pay attention to their own business, at some point we will need to turn our attention towards stopping these aggressive fools from ruining our lives in total.

  • Jagrick

    Ride a bicycle or walk. Smaller footprint in the process. You can do it if you really wanted to and then you wouldn’t be stressed about this stuff.

    • Roger Smith

      Yeah, I’ll just strap my table saw, my 100 lbs of tools, repair parts, painting equipment and all the other crap I need to do my job…all in one nice bundle and tie it to the handlebars of my Huffy Pro Thunder…. Why the heck did I ever waste money on a truck?

      • markthetruth

        Just Don’t get caught JayWalking !

        the end…

      • saintmatty

        Yeah, don’t you love those tiny Obama Mobiles that would tip over like Fred Flintstones car if you tried to put a ladder on top?!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brett-McQuigg/1248594583 Brett McQuigg

    Definitely not alone, and more are waking each day.

  • Makati1

    You are placed in ‘lock-down’ any time the government wants to do it. See Boston for the recent example. They call it “secured in place” but it is a lock-down as sure as in any prison. And it can be done at the whim of any of your government masters. I live in the Philippines for a reason, and it is not the beaches.

    • Andrew

      In America and the Illuminati-occupied countries, a public sector worker can have illegal relations with underaged children and the police wouldn’t even lift a finger.

      But for a person to walk in front of a police and barely shout a word, the police could use their finger to pull a trigger and defend himself saying the person was a “threat to national security”. That is why many Americans are afraid to openly protest on the streets these days. The police are psychopaths.

    • jenifer divine

      well said, and ITS NOT GETTING BETTER THERE!!! its also one of the 1,000,000+ reasons i live on an island in Thailand (although i Do love our beaches, walk the beach every night at sunset!!!)

  • Andrew

    Quote from Michael Synder post :
    “For example, more than 16 million traffic tickets are issued in the
    state of California each year, and the average fine is approximately
    $250. If you are wealthy that may not be much of a problem, but if you
    are a family that is barely scraping by every month that can be a major
    financial setback.”

    An example of class w@rf@re. A person earning over $200,000 a year on a unionized salary would not mind a $250 fine, but ask a college graduate who is in student loan debt working for minimum wage part time to pay that $250.00.

    I’m telling you Michael, the NWO wants to make the middle class turn poor, and the poor turn poorer while the elite have their agents (government, politicians, public sector union fat cats, etc) at the middle rung and the elite (corporations, CEOs, etc) at the top.

    The elites have the money, and you are either rich or poor. Gone were the days when someone could work harder and go higher up the ladder.

    A poor person is more likely to be incarcerated than a upper-middle class or upper class person. Eg- A Principal of a school has illegal relations with underaged students but gets her license suspended and a meagre probation, but a poor person would not receive that meagre sentence for even the smallest of crimes in the book.

    • 2Gary2

      now extrapolate what you said to race. Read the new jim crow by author michelle alexander.

    • Joe Hill

      Do you know even a single person who earns $200,000 on a union salary, unless it is one of the union officers? Or are you just trying to impugn the notion of unions as a general principle? This tirade reads like a routine conspiracy theory jumble of unsupported accusations.

  • Justin Queso

    This isn’t a problem if you drive the speed limit and obey traffic laws, right? What am I missing?

    • Andrew

      The punishment does not fit the traffic crime. Even teachers who do it with their students and politicians stealing monies get lesser penalties in court than the citizens being accused of traffic violations.

    • Andrew

      The punishment is too harsh for meagre traffic violations.

    • Pauly

      The cops have quotas and their performance review is partly based on how many tickets they write. Who is to say they won’t just snag an innocent driver?

      • wk680

        Also they are starting to implement arrest quotas so the cops are looking for any excuse to arrest people on trumped up charges. I had it happen to me personally. I am thoroughly convinced we have passed the point of no return

    • MeMadMax

      They either just make up the violation, or get nit picky “38 in a 35!”… In all truthfulness we are at a total disadvantage as our cars’ speedometers are not accurate enough to tell us what speed we are actually going. They are usually +- 2-3 mph…. and in all actuality its like petty crime, why fight it… right? Whos gonna care about a ticket that is + 2-3 mph over the speed limit right?

    • seth datta

      it goes beyond speeding fines. this system will be used to violate citizen rights and crush the citizenry in the not too distant future.

    • Handog

      There are tickets being issued for driving too slow as well. Are you telling us you drive the exact speed limit all the time?

      You are a criminal too. You just haven’t been caught YET.

  • Tex May

    Simple solution. Don’t speed! Yellow means stop- Not boot it!

    What is it that the law and order types are always saying?- Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time!

    • Aaron

      So, Tex May, you wouldn’t mind if the punishment for littering was to have your arms amputated at the shoulder and to be chemically castrated? All you have to do is not litter!

      The point is, the punishment should be in proportion to the crime. If the deadliness of speeding isn’t going up (it’s going down), then why are speeding ticket prices increasing faster than inflation?

  • Mondobeyondo

    It’s not about infrastructure improvement, not at all. Our local, state and federal governments will do anything to get decent, hard-working law abiding citizens to part with their cash.Why? Because they’re BROKE! They need money (specifically, your money). Our infrastructure is rotting because governments have no cash to pay for repairs!

    And all this surveillance (it’s not just the roads and highways, there’s a CCTV camera on almost every corner) is, of course, to make you feel “safe”. Gotta get them terrorists!! You never know if some Islamic radical is going to blow up a rest stop along Interstate 10 between L.A. and Phoenix.That would be a tragedy for truck drivers and travellers, and we just can’t have that in America! These are dangerous times! But never fear, the TSA has your back(side).

    • 2Gary2

      they need to simply tax the rich hard.

      • alan watson

        ypu are true obama idiot

      • seth datta

        how is it that simple. because its not!

  • Roger Smith

    The infrastructure CANNOT be crumbling as so many of you say. After “investing” over 850 billion in “shovel ready” projects via the stimulus bill, Our roads must be grade A……right? Yikes, OK so I’m not even going to try to mask my contempt for these snakes we call politicians. What Washington D.C. needs is a pied piper.

    I know a guy who drives back and forth between Oregon and Washington. He’s self employed and his business requires it. One day he gets pulled over by Washington State Police and questioned as to why his OR plate has pinged their database that he’s crossed the border so many times. So this “traffic stop” was triggered by the computer telling the cop that this plate had crossed to many times in a month. The reason: Washington has no income tax, Oregon does. So people often live in WA but try to register their cars in OR because the registration is cheaper. Long story short…..Here’s a guy getting pulled over by WA state patrol for absolutely NOTHING to do with traffic safety. This State Cop was acting purely as an enforcement officer for the State department of Revenue.

  • Mondobeyondo

    A few years ago here in Arizona, the DPS (Department of Public Safety) installed “speed cameras” on many of the major highways and freeways. They were especially noticeable around Phoenix. The way they work is, if you’re driving too fast, the camera takes a flash photo of you and your vehicle. The camera takes a photo of your license plate.

    A few days later, you’ll receive a ticket in the mail. Pay up, or you’ll get a court notice next. The claim the state government used was, “Photo radar cuts down on speeding and unsafe drivers, and reduces accidents”. Translation: “We’re broke, we’re desperate and if we don’t do this we’ll have to lay off policemen and highway patrolmen”,

    AZ. got rid of photo radar in 2008 I think. It did nothing to cut down speeding. But it DID raise some revenue for the state…

  • English Kev

    Been happening here for years all under the banner of
    ‘road safety’. All our police forces are registered businesses.

  • Hammerstrike

    The old yankees, for all their faults, would just have smashed or shot all those nifty cameras, then sold the scraps.

    But now, their descendents are too “civilized”, too soft and unable to get themselves to work together, cuz organized religion and politics is BAAAAAD.
    At least the economic crisis brings a sense of reality to those that may still awaken.

  • MeMadMax

    I live in Los Angeles, been here a couple of years now(unfortunately!). When I first got here, they used to have street sweepers come down once a week around 2-3 in the morning, and a pothole patching crew come thru shortly after the cleaners. Not anymore. Unless they do it during the day AND are doing a crappy job(hint: they are not running anymore)… Anyways, it seems like someone is getting all the money and it isn’t the roads department. I know the cops are getting a good chunk of money cause they are able to run their stupid helicopters ragged night and day… Seriously, can’t wait to get out of here, was a big mistake coming here, now if only I can convince my wife too >_>

  • http://www.facebook.com/roger.stamper.965 Roger Stamper

    ypu are not alone

  • euroguy

    The same going on in many european countries. This is the new way of taxation. We’ve got used to it.
    Byciclers are also target for ticketing.

    It looks like they get commition for each ticket. What a dirty business set up by the state.

  • BlackDog

    We had cameras in Phoenix for awhile, but the Department of Public Safety killed them BECAUSE they were revenue-generators and had NOTHING to do with saving lives. See? We got common sense here in Arizona. What you got in NYC? Bwahahahahaha!!

  • Johnny

    3000 teen drivers died last year text while driving. Red light cameras cool with me. Boy traffic light laws. More older drivers on the road. Many drive worse as they get older. I read about DWI every day. Cars are big weapons that inflict much damage and death daily. Obey traffic laws. I received a red light ticket for rolling right turn on red. None since. I have become a better driver.

    • das

      Ban all cars and then no one will die in a car crash

  • seth datta

    even in rural uk, its been proven that increased surveillance doesnt solve crimes, as the cctv footage is often too grainy. rather, it causes citizens to psychologically police themselves and others’.

  • Andy Cowling

    “if you are a family that is barely scraping by every month that can be a major financial setback.”

    Or they could just drive slower.

    • Anne Rockwell

      It is not, there wouldn’t be so many people complaining if corruption wasn’t on the rise. I myself thought the same way until it happened to me.

      • 2Gary2

        ditto

  • milou

    the same in France.

  • JAH666

    Besides just needing the money for the STATE, another reason to put all of these punitive measures on drivers is to force people to use public transit. While they may say it is for various good reasons, coerced use of public transit is a form of control over a population and a way to wean peoples away from feeling free. Once you crush a population with controls and punitive reforms, the succeeding generations know this as normal and accept it. “The future is a boot stamping on a human face forever.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/casey.t.rodriguez Casey Thomas Rodriguez

    :::YAWWWnnnnn:::: I’m still waiting for the revolution to begin…:yawnnn::::

    • JAH666

      I’m with you on this also. The sheep will not rise up.

      • seth datta

        Sheep won’t rise up without the leader. Only 1 in 100 have this gene. It is a genetic trait (real leaders, not ‘yes’ men). Also, look at experiments done in the past; I believe the Milford experiment showed that 65% of any population would do the utmost evil if commanded to do it. People will do and believe mostly anything if ‘persuaded’ enough, without questioning it.

        Only a minority of Europeans had the civilization building gene. The better of these peoples emigrated from Europe to the US, Canada etc… They had to be smarter and hardier. The main European contingent in their own countries were lost in the two World Wars and propped up by oil and fiat afterwards. That can only last so long, hence why things are in the state they’re in now. Between an insane elite and a dumbed down and unconfident population (partly the elite’s fault), there aren’t enough ‘civilization-minded’ people to maintain society.

    • seth datta

      They own the media, most of the gov’t and control the water and food supply. Can’t take them on without a lot of people who are nowadays dependent on gov’t dying. Can’t wait for them to slowly enslave us either…

      Plus they take out every leader. Just look at JFK. Ive tried in the UK but they shut you down and hound you out. Worse still, you begin to wonder if modern humanity is worth saving, because many of the people are just as bad as the rulers.

      I guess that’s why I realised that there is no other way than for this soon to be awful chapter in history to happen and then for the elite’s plan to collapse, either due to their stupidity or the Lord’s will.

      Worst thing is, I’m pretty sure the UK is finished either way. Ive seen an explosion in immorality and stupidity in both locals and immigrants alike. Also, there are too many people, not enough resources for the mass of people and nowhere to run or hide in this CCTV infested nation. That’s why I’m moving abroad, because other places have a tactically better chance of surviving.

  • SanMateo

    One guy got a ticket in the mail with a picture of his license plate. So he took a picture of a $100 bill and sent it back! Not sure he got away with it but a great idea.

    • wpjljr

      They sent him a picture of handcuffs and he paid the ticket.

    • Tim

      I wouldn’t try that, but I find it humorous.

  • Orac4Prez

    Fortunately in Australia we dont have as many surveillance cameras as you have in have US (or thankfully as many as the UK- I think they have more cameras than people!) However, we have introduced hundreds of new speed zones, with roadwork signs restricting speeds on both sides of the road. If you slow down to comply with the speed signs, you can expect to be told to speed up because you are obstructing traffic (and get a massive fine). About two weeks ago that happened to me and then as the cops veered off, I continued on through a speed trap. I’ve complained – it probably wont do any good. Either way you will get a massive fine. Personally, I intend getting an “in car” camera and will record the next “event”, posting it on YouTube or somewhere. Of course that is probably a crime (bringing the police into disrepute or somethingt similar)

    • seth datta

      You guys have the ‘carbon tax’ right? This will kill small businesses – as if they arent having enough problems already.

  • suelark

    The next step is for the govt to build a database of how many miles you travel and how much you use the road and implement a use tax. The only question is: when?

    • Chris Bieber

      they are and do!!! SCAG out here in CA has come up with just that plan…ugh….Part of Agenda21 and Surveillance State…stop it in your city or state before it happens!!!

  • sharonsj

    You didn’t mention privatization–where politicians sell 99-year leases for toll roads to corporations and foreign companies. They do it for quick up-front money and then stick the taxpayers with future problems. It’s another way of taking money out of our pockets and putting it in theirs because I’ll make you a bet that every one of those politicians is either getting kickbacks or campaign contributions.

  • goldminer

    Answer to this problem is a product called Veil G4…. Good stuff. If everyone would use IR reflecting stuff, radar detectors. ect . It would make it too expensive for police to use IR reading, Lazer and Radar equipment. If the police go high tech then the citizen must also go high tech. IR reflecting coatings and radar/lazer detectors are cheap. Cost about the same as 1 speeding ticket .Yet the sheeple wont use them.
    They would rather be tracked where ever they go and pay huge fines. Dumb. Considering the tech is out there, and can be had fairly cheaply, to defeat the police state tech.

  • saintmatty

    Heard a rumor that something berwy berwy bad was happening to surveillance cameras in Arizona. Elmer Jay Fudd is on the loose. Now time to teach those waskerly drones a lesson

  • kikonut

    I was caught on camera slowing down at a red light , but not completely stopping to make a right turn. It was very safe, but I admit, unlawful, okay, fine. But what gets to me is the irony of it: The video of my car can be seen online but the video of the airplane crashing into the Pentagon on 9/11 is nowhere to be seen. ???

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=819893585 Nathan Justice

      A simple debate on the cops being used to get money for the county/state turns into some whack job conspiracy manifesto

  • 2Gary2

    This is a copy paste from a radio blog. I think it sums up the conservative mindset very well.

    For many conservatives–especially the Tea Party types–opinion
    substitutes for evidence. I heard on the radio the other day a
    right-wing talk-show host say the he and the other “common folk” know
    more about education than the educators and researchers who study it.
    (“Common sense” always trumps rigorous research.) In their view,
    denying more educational opportunities to children in kindergarten makes
    sense. Full-day kindergarten is an expense taxpayers don’t need.
    (After all, all children do in kindergarten is play, right?) This sort
    of short-sighted thinking is what Republicans seem good at. Anything
    that costs less and makes the wealthy wealthier is good. As for health
    care, all the far-right sees is money.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ray-Williams/100001156761329 Ray Williams

      what does this have to do with cameras and license readers? progressive tripe is all.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ray-Williams/100001156761329 Ray Williams

      barack hussein obama, mmm, mmm, mmm!

  • 2Gary2

    Michael–I got a $88.80 ticket last month for going over the speed limit in the town I live in. The pig said I was going 15 over the limit. Never mind that I work second shift as it was 1am and there was not a soul to be seen but the lazy pig sitting in the squad car.

    The pig was rude even though all I did was ask to see the radar gun he used to track my speed.

    These ex McDonald’s fry cooks with a gun need to be told that they work for the citizens and they need to take a class in how to communicate and treat other people.

    So I ask the chief pig why he thinks it is OK to pay an office to sit in a squad car and catch traffic stuff instead of patrolling through the parks, businesses parking lots and generally doing police work. The pig would not answer.

    I have zero respect for police until they earn it from me.

    • Handog

      Infidelity is much higher than other proffesions who don’t have a badge to hide behind. I’ve seen it first hand, what are you going to do if you catch a pig hitting on your wife?

      It’s 98% of the cops that give the rest of them a bad name.

      • 2Gary2

        Good question. I have a cam I can film cops with if they are doing things inappropriately. Makes for good you tube viewing.

        • Brian

          Now they are trying to make filming cops illegal! We’re drifting quickly into North Korea territory.

      • Brian

        I’ve seen it myself, the cops use investigations to pick up on the women they are suppose to be helping. There has to be some accountability for these guys. One of the most overlooked points is how the public expects the government to govern itself. Example: Internal Affairs. What a f*cking sad joke we’re living in.

    • http://www.facebook.com/joe.kleinkamp Joe Kleinkamp

      Next time you get stopped give the officer a really hard time so he locks you up and keeps you there for a while. We’ll all win. You get the three hots and a cot on the government’s dime you seem to crave and we won’t be subjected to your blegging (that’s what it’s called when beggars blog.)

      • 2Gary2

        it is low mentality comments like this that allows our freedoms to be lost. Go back to watching American Idol.

        • http://www.facebook.com/joe.kleinkamp Joe Kleinkamp

          But Gary don’t you realize the government knows how to spend that $88.80 better than you do? Surely as a committed liberal you can appreciate this. The anger you feel is no different than most hard working folks feel when they mail in their check to the IRS. Man up, admit your mistake and move on. I’ve had speeding tickets too because I exceeded the speed limit and got caught. Admitted my mistake, paid the fine and moved on. So deal with it Gary and get on with your blegging.

          • Fuqoff

            Wow. Talk about someone who totally missed the point. Then again I’m not surprised.

        • English Kev

          Funny though.

    • wk680

      It’s true most of these cops nowadays have no respect for the citizenry, and they tend to be extremely rude and condescending when you try to talk to them. I think all the crap we have been hearing in the lamestream media since 2001 about the ‘first responders’ being heroes is a big part of the problem – has gone to their heads and has them thinking they are on higher level than the average joe. But also, like someone else posted, a lot of these guys are just sociopaths. It is a dirty job and well-intentioned people don’t last long at it (burn out and quit or get run off) – leaving the angry scumbags to fill the ranks of the miserable excuse we have for law enforcement.

    • tim ho

      A lot of that may have to do with the Federal government providing “services” to you – grant money for “traffic safety” buys car and officer that has no option other than to wait for you wanting to get home to sleep. Thank Congress

    • Ralfine

      Check the calibration sticker and certificate.

  • Chris Bieber

    for a year and half I helped my friend in Murrieta California with little money get signatures, get on the ballot and WIN to get rid of the ATS RedLightCams..now stuck in Appeals Court..ugh..finally the City has surrendered and now is willing to consider supporting Fighting the Appeal. One woman(and a few friends) helped stop Big Brother and his Scam….you can too…but cant keep waiting..and expect others to do it…YOU have to do it!!! Big Brother’s snout was smoted out here….the Camera Co’s are like the communists(literally and figuratively)..keep popping up and trying to bribe their way into the city coffers…..ie YOUR pocketbook…..
    Stop them while you still can!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Webb/100001371414176 David Webb

    The racket is to gimmick the yellow light so it turns red before you can stop. It is right in the camera company contract that the light be set on yellow for 3.5 seconds. If you are close to the light when it turns you will run a red light.
    I think in communities with little police control, a lot of these cameras are going down. The people are destroying them. Blame it on gangs. Apparently there is more freedom there than we have here.
    I suggest we unelect the officials that put these contracts in place. But that would entail digging up the city manager’s records that approved these things!
    The issue isn’t really cameras. The issue is thieves in our courts and thieves in our local city offices.
    When the police become thieves then they no longer have the public respect that they need to do their jobs.
    This lack of respect eventually will cause anarchy all over this country.

    This already has happened on our freeways. They put in laws restricting everyone to 55 mph through any town.
    I drive highways regularly and I have yet to see anyone doing the speed limit.

    I have clocked people doing 90 and they were sometimes the majority of people on the highway. It can be dangerous to obey the speed limits on our interstates right now. You might get run over.

  • raptor45

    I have also heard, from a pretty reliable source, that there are surveillance readers that can read the tiny strips in the paper cash you are carrying in your car as you drive down the road. Apparently these readers can tell how much paper cash you’re carrying and in what denominations, and the cops can pull you over if they think its warranted.

    ain’t it great??

  • Patriot Alice

    OK, now what do we do about it? We will get used to and live with it, because that’s what we do…It doesn’t matter which political party is in charge, this is our future…

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=819893585 Nathan Justice

      amen

  • SMASH THE CONTROL MACHINE

    ONE HALF WAY THROUGH MICHAELS’ NEW BOOK !!! WOW WHAT A RIDE I CANT WAIT TO SEE HOW THIS ENDS!!10 BUCKS AND READ IT ON MY COMPUTER!!!IITS THE BEGINNING OF THE END !!!BUT I AM ONLY HALFWAY THROUGH!!WELL BACK TO READING !!GOOD JOB MICHAEL !!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000633875894 Randy Townsend

    He said: “When I first started in this job 30 years ago, police work was never
    about revenue enhancement, but if you’re a chief now, you have to look
    at whether your department produces revenues,” he says. “That’s just the
    reality nowadays.” Which is why I do not support law enforcement in any form, in any way, regardless of the reason. Agents of the state deserve no respect from anyone.

  • Julie Bahr

    What do speed traps, parking tickets, toll roads, speed cameras and red light cameras all have in common? They protect us that try to dry safely from the dummies that are driving illegally, and those that speed, and don’t obey stop signs and traffic lights.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=819893585 Nathan Justice

      You’re an idiot.

  • mike1120

    I am in 100% agreement with you on all the things you said in this article. I drive 50 miles one way everyday on I-95 / I-495 in the Washington DC area. It is a joke. Don’t dare go in Montgomery County, MD! The other thing that kills me is that ALL new freeways/expressways they build in this area are now TOLL ROADS! So after I give up a good portion on my hard earned income to the 50 million different forms of taxes they already are hitting me with, they want to throw another tax (use of the toll rd) on top of the taxes I used to help build that road. What a bunch of crooks! What is funny though is that they just spent millions of dollars making part of I-495 (Capital Beltway) a toll road and no one drives it! The other day while coming home from work I heard an ad, that’s right…an advertisement, on the radio saying how much time you’ll save by using their toll road. Just pay to use the toll road and utopia is yours. They all deserve to be in jail.
    Good post!

    • Satan is evil to humanity

      Agenda 21 wants everyone to move to the cities and live in shoebox condo units and pay CONDO FEES!

  • Satan is evil to humanity

    Soon the feds might put cameras up our @$$ to prevent Isslamik extremists.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gino.venaglia Gino Venaglia

    It has always been revenue generation along with young cop ego busting chops.

  • seth datta

    The prez is lonely. His wife doesnt love him. He needs something to do and he cares about us. He cares about where we go, who we see, what we spend… In fact, he cares so much, that he wants to hold my tool in his hand when I go to the bathroom to take a leak. He’s such a caring guy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jack.lovett.526 Jack Lovett

    I left the cesspool 2 years ago. And I feel I was late in doing so. And now one way to see it is,,anyone who still lives in the us or has $ in a bank their is a total fool. ( sorry my daughters & kids) If you don’t have gold/silver in your hand,sorry for you.
    Also, sorry but the pig theifs in costume’s do need to be taken out. As in final.

    jclbiz

  • John Williams

    It’s even worse if you carry a pistol (legal permit), get stopped for even an equipment failure, the LEO is having a bad hair day, and asks to you step out of the vehicle if you are carrying. Of course you are always polite, compliant and respectful in that situation but it is not an enjoyable experience as it makes you feel like a criminal. For that reason I find myself being extra careful obeying traffic laws, not just for the fines involved.

  • http://www.facebook.com/drlous.place Drlous Place

    as usual, instead of being used to help by stopping criminals, whom the government profits from and pretends to chase, the result is squeezing the life and potential liberty out of the innocent law-biding citizen…The SAD part is that even at the local levels, it seems politicians go dim on “reality” and live in a world where all that matters is they’re little groups and having their name on the placard in front of them.

  • glamandvampallround

    This makes me very glad I don’t have a car and I don’t want one any time soon – it really seems like a big bill and a constant vulnerability to more bills to me…..I didn’t used to see cars this way but now with tickets costing what they do…..better to just give up on the whole racket.

  • Mohanned

    Thought this was interesting we need overall reform we are the smartest species in earth but everyone can’t agree that money is a backbone for society but if we do a global bankruptcy things just might get better we have stupid policies that’s bleeding our country dry stabbing the right hand with the left hand not smart at all. If we’re so smart why can’t we just get along and strive for peace and equality and stop letting people say its not possible last time I checked nothing is forever and things change peace on earth is a dream we still should strive for it not over till somebody pushes society to the brink the people who are smart need to stand for policy changes ASAP!

  • JAS

    Not only are they making millions off of these cameras, but here in Florida they are pushing a bill through that will take away your right to a hearing before a judge. If you get get a red light camera ticket, you either pay the $158, or go before a hired and payed city employee to argue your case. If you loose, you pay the $158 fine plus a $250 hearing fee. Guess whose side the city employee will always agree with. They have basically taken away your constitutional right to a fair trial.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gregge.k.johnson Gregge K Johnson

    With 6.7 million people graduate from college this month and 7.5 million from high school,were are they going to find JOBS ?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shmeggle-Marxist/100001597489122 Shmeggle Marxist

      back to mom and dads basement

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Shmeggle-Marxist/100001597489122 Shmeggle Marxist

    happy mothers day y’all

  • Bruce

    I am a retired police officer. Seldom do I ever mention that. I used to be proud of what I did and subsequently retired from. Trust me Law-enforcement didn’t used to be that way. I come from the old school and we actually tried to help people. Now it’s how many tickets can you write and how many can you arrest and lock up! In the old days we issued a summons for most offences however, today many are locked up for offences that a summons used to take care of. It’s without question a revenue generating game and they have all the game pieces. It’s unfair, unjust and unequal! The judicial system is as much of a joke and crooked as the enforcement end is. As I have said MANY times, unless and until we take our country back things WILL not change. We are being forced to sit and wait our turn to be victimized by the system that’s run amuck.
    I also am infuriated that we have a President and Congressmen who supported and voted for the NDAA. It without question violates constitutional rights and these Neanderthals took and oath and swore to uphold the U.S. Constitution. They have not kept the oath and in fact have committed a treasonas act as far as I am concerned. There is NO doubt there!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Leon
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  • strangewalk

    No surprises in this article. We have a government that allowed the greedy corporatists to transfer the industrial base job engine to China because they knew the Chinese would have to buy trillion$ of their worthless treasury paper. What this amounts to plain and simple is that the US government intentionally impoverished its own people in order to enrich itself.

  • exirapitt

    I was an otr driver for 27 years—you are just noticing this now???? Actually, I was fortunate that I never got tickets [just lucky] but its been this way for years, especially in calif because of thei financial situation. its easy money.

  • El Pollo de Oro

    There’s a scene in the movie “Secuestro Express” (filmed in Caracas, Venezuela) in which a venezolana who has just been freed by
    some kidnapper thugs (after they got the ransom from her parents) runs into some cops who turn out to be even more treacherous and vile than the kidnappers. And before los policías can gangrape her, she is rescued by one of the three kidnappers who just finished draining her parents’ bank account. You know you’re living in
    the sewers of hell when you’re being abused by the cops and the robbers simultaneously,
    and as The Banana Republic of America (the Third World snakepit that used to be Los Estados Unidos) goes from bad to much worse, Americans will be terrorized by the police state as well as by gangbangers, kidnappers and carjackers. The police state, as Alex Jones often points out, will abuse you at every turn but won’t make
    you any safer. Americans chose security over liberty but will get neither.

    “George Orwell would be shocked if he saw what was happening. It’s far greater than he could have ever imagined.”—Gerald Celente

    “We’re in the midst of a financial crash, and they want the Gestapo in place to keep the
    people in place because when the money stops flowing down to the man on the street, the blood begins flowing in the streets.”—Gerald Celente

    “Next train to Auschwitz, all aboard! Kiss those calories goodbye, because we’re in a
    fascist state.”—Gerald Celente

    “It is clear that the purpose of the police state is not to protect Americans from Muslim terrorists. The purpose of the police state is to terrorize US citizens.”—Dr. Paul Craig Roberts

    “No one in their right mind could possibly think that a 90-year old grandmother in a wheel
    chair is a terrorist whose diaper needs to be checked or that blond and blue-eyed parents would have strapped a bomb around their 5-year old daughter’s waist. No one except the gestapo Department of Homeland Security.”—Dr. Paul
    Craig Roberts

    “Barack Obama is so dangerous because he makes people that are traditionally anti-torture, anti-war, anti-police state just say, ‘Hey, I want NDAA. I want troops on the street. I want TSA sticking their hands down our pants. I want banker bailouts because it’s Obama.’ And strong conservatives went to sleep under Bush because hey, he’s a Republican.”—Alex Jones

    “So many of the things that are in 1984 have been surpassed.”—Alex Jones

    “If America becomes this pure tyranny,
    the world better look out. If they think we’ve been doing bad stuff so far, look out.”—Alex Jones

    “Why are mainline conservatives so into getting gangraped? Why do they love getting conned? They worship the corporate fascists so much. It’s just insane.”—Alex Jones

    “This is acollapse of empire. One thing that is an ingredient of all collapses of empire is an absence of justice. There is no justice. There is no (accountability) for the 1%, and therefore, there is no justice at all.”—Stacy Herbert of “The
    Keiser Report”

    The BRA became a rogue pariah government during George “Dumb-Ya” Bush’s reign of terror, and the police state continues under Barack “Goldman Sachs” Obama. In fact, it has been enhanced with the NDAA. Welcome to Ground Zero in hell.

  • frank1569

    11 yrs ago, I get a $250 parking ticket in L.A. I don’t have the money, so I try and fight it. At that time, the first level of ‘traffic court’ had been subcontracted out to a private firm. My ‘hearing’ is in a store-front featuring a girl behind a desk, on which sits a tape recorder. I state my case to the tape recorder… and, 2 weeks later, the tape recorder finds me guilty.

    Now the fine is $500. Can’t appeal unless ya put up the money, and they offer no payment plan or community service options. So I’m, like, oh well…

    A few months later, my driver’s license is suspended for failure to pay that ticket, which is now around $750. A couple of months after that, my car re-registration is denied due to failure to pay that ticket, which is now $1,000.

    What’s a guy gonna do? He’s gotta work, so he keeps driving… for a few months, until he’s caught by a motorcycle cop scanning license plates in a bank parking lot. Cop adds another $850 worth of tickets, and, just for fun, impounds the car.

    Police impound violated the lease, so the car was repo-ed and sold at auction, then I was billed for the diff between the full retail and the auction price: $7,000.

    Left the state… by bus. 2 years later, I applied for a DL in TX, learned I was on the ‘National Driver’s Registry,’ (what?) and, until all tickets, penalties and fees were paid, I was disallowed from obtaining a DL in ANY state. Last time I checked, said payment required topped $3,300. Not counting the $7,000 for the broken lease.

    That was 11 years ago. Haven’t driven (legally) since.

  • Zzznorch

    “…and you don’t work in a major city like Washington D.C., the changes that are happening probably do not affect you too much.”

    I wish that were true. Here on Long Island, close to where I live is the tiny City of Glen Cove (legally a “city” but you won’t find any tall buildings or urbanization like in a big city). They currently have pole mounted license plates readers on route NY-107 that monitor cars entering and leaving the “city”. The funding was provided by DHS. More funding will be forthcoming to add more cameras so that all entry and exit points to the city are monitored.

  • Gil

    Gee, they’re only a “revenue-generating grid” if you’re constantly speeding and running red lights. Unless people are getting fined for not committing crimes there’s no injustice.

  • Mr Lizard

    Get a passport 9500ix or equivalent with GPS. Gives you alerts for everything but laser, and let’s you know when you’re approaching a red light camera

  • timho

    Toll Roads benefit politicians and toll road industry whose whose many lobbyists help with PAC support. By ‘deciding the best for the public’ is to convey effective ownership of infrastructure to private, usually foreign, corporations none ever need confess of a vote “to raise taxes” insuring re-election and continuing power.

    The tax paying user on the other hand gets to complain about the minimal annual ‘reset’ of toll rates as guaranteed by those politicos in contract. After all, someone must pay the “fee” to pay the higher cost of private funds, overhead, people to watch the people who take the money, expense of buying license registration information for billing, funds for dividends of stockholders … you get the point.

    Various ‘neutral’ government studies have found that ‘toll roads only occasionally benefit the taxpayers’. (OMB/CBO/GAO/PIRG)
    And then there is the inconvenient ‘problem’ created by greed with access to honey pots sending elected officials off to jail. (Pennsylvania has 8 headed there now.)
    Footnote of caution: several toll roads went/going bankrupt returning the costs to the public – oh joy!

    The contracts being 50 – 75- or 99 year in length guarantees it will be your great great grandchildren who will first have opportunity to see what a “free”way is – the others will find them in WIkipedia.

  • Ralfine

    Don’t speed, don’t get ticket, save money.

    Easy.

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