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Are The Wild Teacher Protests In Wisconsin A Prelude To The Economic Riots That Are Coming To America?

Have you seen video of the teacher protests that are going on in Wisconsin?  We haven’t seen anything like this in America in quite some time.  If you haven’t seen video of the protests yet, some very good raw footage is posted below.  On the one hand it is good to see Americans coming together and standing up for what they believe in, but on the other hand what these teachers are freaking out about shows just how much America has changed.  These teachers are not protesting for liberty, freedom or to change the government.  Rather, they are protesting because they want things to remain the same.  They simply don’t want anyone to mess with their pay.  Well, the truth is that none of us ever wants to experience a pay cut.  It is not a lot of fun.  But sadly, states like Wisconsin are so broke that they have to find cuts somewhere.  Someone is going to have to make a sacrifice.  The teachers in Wisconsin just want to make sure that it is not them.

In the United States today, state and local governments are facing unprecedented budget crunches.  Tax revenues are way down and expenses are way up.  State and local government debt has reached at an all-time high of 22 percent of U.S. GDP, and many state and local governments are teetering on the brink of insolvency.

States like Wisconsin have to do something or else they will collapse financially.  Wisconsin is facing a $3.6 billion budget deficit (which for that state is huge), and Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker and the Republicans in the legislature are attempting to make some tough cuts.

In particular, they want public employees to pay a little more towards their health care premiums and pension programs.  In fact, what the Republicans are proposing would still leave Wisconsin public employees contributing far less to health care and pensions than their private sector counterparts.

U.S. Representative Paul Ryan recently appeared on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” program and described what Governor Scott Walker is asking the teachers to do….

Scott and I are very close friends. We e-mail each other quite a bit… He’s basically saying that state workers which have extremely generous benefits packages relative to their private sector counterparts, they contribute next to nothing to their pensions, very, very little in their health care packages.

He’s asking that they contribute about 12 percent for their health care premiums, which is about half of the private sector average, and about 5.6 percent to their pensions. It’s not asking a lot. It’s still about half of what private sector pensions do and health care packages do.

So he’s basically saying “I want you public workers half of what your private sector counterparts do” and he’s getting riots. It’s like Cairo has moved to Madison these days.

These proposed changes have caused a massive uproar in Wisconsin.  Just check out the following raw video footage from the last few days….

But this is what we have come to as a nation.  Almost everyone agrees that reducing government debt is a good thing “in theory”, but whenever anyone starts to put forward some specific proposals to cut government spending it makes those that will be affected by the cuts extremely upset.

Just look at what is happening with the federal government.  Republicans and Democrats are both frothing at the mouth over extremely small budget cuts that have been proposed.  Virtually none of our national politicians are even willing to discuss budget cuts that would actually make a serious dent in our budget deficits.

But we have got to do something.  Spending by the U.S. government is spinning wildly out of control.  Back in 1970, the U.S. government only spent about 200 billion dollars for the whole year.  Well, this year the federal government is going to spend somewhere around 3.6 trillion dollars, and Barack Obama’s newest budget proposal calls for U.S. government spending to increase to 5.6 trillion dollars by the year 2021.  If the government continues to spend money at such a rapid pace it is going to completely wipe out our entire economic system….

But it is not just the U.S. government that is spending like a drunken sailor.  Most of our state governments are complete financial disaster zones at this point as well.

As I have written about previously, the state of Illinois is such a financial disaster zone that it is hard to even describe.  According to 60 Minutes,  the state of Illinois is six months behind on their bill payments.  60 Minutes correspondent Steve Croft asked Illinois state Comptroller Dan Hynes how many people and organizations are waiting to be paid by the state, and this is how Hynes responded….

“It’s fair to say that there are tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people waiting to be paid by the state.”

Something has got to be done about our national addiction to debt.

Government spending has to be dramatically cut.  All of us are going to have to make sacrifices.  We simply cannot continue to spend far, far, far more than we bring in.

But we are Americans – we do not like to make sacrifices.

Our founding fathers warned us about this.  They warned that when the American people figured out that they could vote themselves money out of the U.S. Treasury it would greatly endanger our republic.

Unfortunately that is exactly what is happening today.  The vast majority of government spending on both the national and state levels consists of direct payments to individuals of one sort or another.

The American people have become addicted to the bread crumbs that they receive from the hand of their master.

This is not what our republic was supposed to look like.

As the U.S. economy continues to decline, we are going to see a lot more riots like we have seen in Wisconsin.  Once the American people realize that the “good times” are over, all hell is going to break loose.

Already the anger and the frustration of the American people is starting to boil over.  Unfortunately, that anger and frustration is focused in 1000 different directions.  The ruling elite and the establishment media are constantly encouraging us to hate one another.  I recently wrote about this phenomenon in an article on another website….

The truth is that the “establishment” is constantly trying to divide us and get us fighting with one another. They pit the Republicans against the Democrats (even as though control both sides). They pit one race against another. They pit one gender against another. We are told that the rich are against the poor, the north is against the south, urban is against rural and that there are even “generational battles” going on. Frustration and hate are rapidly growing in the United States today, and a lot of that frustration and hate is unfortunately aimed at the targets that the mainstream media has programmed all of us to hate. Meanwhile, those at the top of the pyramid who are controlling the whole game love it when we are divided because we can never become united and challenge their control.

Unfortunately, America is more divided today than ever.  Our extreme affluence has kept the thin veneer of civilization that we all take for granted from disappearing so far, but once our affluence is gone all of the hate and frustration in society is going to come bubbling to the surface and it is going to be horrifying to behold.

Once the economic collapse happens, most Americans are not going to take it sitting down.  Most Americans are going to want someone to blame.  Most Americans are going to want to lash out somehow.

America today is like a big, fat spoiled baby that is about to have its favorite pacifier permanently taken away.  America is going to whine and cry and complain like there is no tomorrow.

For decades the financial “gloom and doomers” have been warning about what would happen to this country if we didn’t get our house in order, but nobody wanted to listen.  Everyone just kept piling up more debt as if it would never be a problem.

Well, now our entire country is covered in red ink.  Large numbers of state and local governments across the country are on the verge of defaulting on their debts, and they are hoping that the federal government will bail them out.  The federal government has already accumulated the biggest pile of debt the world has ever seen and continues to behave as if we can just keep borrowing and spending massive amounts of money forever.

There is no way out of this nightmare under the current system.  Taxing people more is not going to solve our problems.  Taxing people less is not going to solve our problems.

We have gotten to the point where it is inevitable that the debt bubble that we have created is going to burst.  Our politicians can try to delay it for a while, but in the end the whole house of cards is going to come crashing down.

When the U.S. economy does totally collapse, it is going to make the riots that we have seen in Egypt and throughout the Middle East this year seem tame by comparison.

What we are witnessing right now in Wisconsin are just the “birth pains”.  The American people don’t want to “tighten their belts”.  In fact, most Americans have absolutely no idea what “hard times” would even look like.  When things go from bad to worse we are going to see temper tantrums in this country like we have never seen before.

So get ready.  Unless there is some kind of dramatic transformation in this country, in the years ahead we are going to see some horrific economic riots.

It would be nice if we had a brighter future to look forward to, but we don’t do ourselves any favors by living in denial.

So what do you all think about what has been going on in Wisconsin?  Do you all believe that we could see huge economic riots inside America in the years ahead?  Feel free to leave a comment with your opinion below….

  • Gary2

    If the government gave to the states what it gave to just bail out AIG then there would be no state deficits. No more corporate welfare and start taxing the rich hard.

  • Bob Gross

    This is simply another effort to use the government and legal system to destroy America’s last large union and privatize education. Out of one side of the leader’s mouth comes the comment “we are broke”. However, “broke people” don’t give billions away in tax breaks to the wealthy. Our federal government did it in December (and the same individuals responsible now are screaming for cuts to necessary programs to fund this break for the wealthy), our government bailed out the banks and Wall Street (again, nobody is talking about it), and they have the gall to talk about the deficit. They are right…we can’t afford it. We can’t afford necessary social programs if the rich need more money, and they have more money here than anywhere in the world.
    Trust me when I say Wisconsin was just the start of things, and it is going to get ugly.

  • Bianca De Chandos

    The 2 main causes are these :
    a) If Business pays costs and dividends of $100 to make a product or service it needs $110 in Sales to make a retained profitof $10 – Where does the extra $10 come from ? Ans : Debt (Consumer Debt, Government Debt) plus Business Fixed Assets – There is another source – Called NEFS : Net Export Financial Simulation but this is not used yet.
    b) ‘Cheap’ goods from China – China does not do Free Trade, it does Uni-Trade : they sell to us Period. They use the money we give them to lend back to us to buy more of there cheap goods and now we are broke and owned by China ! – All we have to do is take China to the WTO and sue them for $15 Trillion-ish for the decimation of Western Industry, skills and soon civilisation that their unfair trade practices have caused. Then we use NEFS so we don’t get back into this mess again – it’s only numbers we are short of not real stuff – it’s quite easy

  • LJE

    Things are bad here in Ireland, but this is at least a fairly cohesive, non-armed and low density population that can sustain itself on a very basic level if needs be. The USA is the most bankrupt country on the planet, way worse than Ireland, only the penny has not dropped yet. When people wake up from the dream they will realise that successive bad governments have created a nightmare that will take decades of pain to fix.

  • Lennie Pike

    Unicorn, You agree with me then, good – but take a course in reading comprehension.

  • WisconsinFighter

    Walker’s supporters needs to wake up. All Walker has done is make it more “Business friendly” for his bosses the Koch brothers who have cut over 2000 jobs nationwide while increasing their networth by 11 billion to be 42 billion currently. Of course they are the primary financers of the Tea Party and are both in the top 10 of richest Americans. David Koch is now the richest man in New York City.

    Koch Industries pretends that it thrives from the “free market,” and that the government only inhibits its growth. But in reality, as Koch slashed jobs, the company exploited government contracts, public forests, public land, narrow corporate loopholes, eminent domain seizures of private land, and has demanded taxpayer bailouts for its refineries. Yet still they donate millions to the museums and art centers in New York. Koch Industries owns Brawny paper towels, Dixie cups, Georgia-Pacific lumber, Stainmaster carpet, and Lycra, among other products.

    Because Koch Industries gets rich burning fossil fuels, the Koch brothers are the largest funders of climate change denying organizations and “libertarian” nonprofits in the world. Koch political donations have helped the company escape serious prosecution for emitting cancer-causing chemicals as well.

    And Walker’s all for the taxpayers here in Wisconsin. You mean his rich campaign funders. It’s just a smoke screen. Rich get richer thanks to Walker and the Tea Party. He is nothing more than their pawn and they will discard of him as soon as they get what they want. They want Wisconsin because because we support Obama, we are a battleground state. Before they can take Wisconsin they need to break the unions. They hate Obama and anything that he stands for and want their Palin in as president so they can reap more profits and power. Walker acts like the only taxpayers are his supporters and could not be further from the truth. By the way, can anyone show exactly when he promised during his campaign that he would do away with collective bargaining? Yes, he did say he would make changes but he conveniently failed to mention that part. We are starting a recall of the 8 senators on Walker’s side and of Walker. Wisconsin low and middle class are committed to this fight. We know it will take time. They started it but we will end it.$11_billion_in_recent_years,_they_laid_off_thousands


    The real protest should be that unions were allowed in public service to begin with! The idea that it is somehow an inherent right to collectively force higher taxation and debt onto the private citizenry is absurd on its face!

  • Steve

    It’s not that the teachers refuse to negotiate any cuts, it is that the desire to strip them of any bargaining power will reverse 100 years of progress in labor relations. Do we really want to return to the Gilded Age? Turing the private sector workers again the public sector workers is a brilliant tactic in hiding the fact that the newly elected majority lighten the load for the very wealthy. It is heartbreaking to watch, but I think this will wake the country up. GO WISCONSIN, YOU CAN BEAT THIS BILL!

  • Alice

    A man walks down the road, but stops at a peculiar sight. Two union guys are working by the side of the road, but the first is simply digging holes while the second is filling them up. Curiosity gets the best of the walker, so he asks the men what they are doing.

    “We’re a post-hole crew,” says the first.

    “But what about the posts?”

    The other union guy answers, “we’re a three man crew — Bob digs the holes, I fill them, and Charlie puts the posts in, but he’s out sick today.”

  • Nancy

    Cutting pensions or whatever is NOT going to fix this mess! Our Great-Great Grandchildren won’t even be able to fix it. I heard awhile back that 100,000 teachers will be layed off by the next school year. Does it bother me, of course, but there are so MANY other pressing problems that haven’t even been addressed. I work for the school system, so this issue is very close to my heart, but I am also a realist. This country doesn’t even resemble the country that I grew up in, and what’s even sadder, the “Globalists” aren’t done yet.

  • Aberdeen

    State government collects taxes from the public and then pays the public unions with it. The union then charges a fee to its members who are paid with tax $, a portion of which is returned to the very politicans(in the form of campaign contributions) who decide the salaries and benefits the unions recieve. Just a small conflict of interest.

    From a personal politician’s standpoint paying the unions more than they are worth in the public sector is just a future “investment” in thier re-election campaign fund and party coffers.

    Corporate donations are just as crooked.

    Ban all campaign donations from any group, corporations, unions, The United Federation of Big Slobbery Dogs, I don’t care who you are or what your charter proclaims as your purpose; if your membership wishes to support a candidate, let them cut a check from their personal account! This is the only way to end (or at least make it more difficult) the pay to play of our current system.

  • Basspig

    All of this is only possible because of property taxes. Eliminate property taxes and the teachers will have to get real jobs and actually WORK for a living. This dog and pony show with unions exists only because of the easy money which is extorted from homeowners at the end of a gun barrel. Legalize home ownership in the Land of the Free and put an end to these matters!

  • http://cite bert sargent

    as with most ,you must pay for what you get. we as a nation are responsible for to days situation and must take what comes.only the people can make a change but doubt that they will,but then who can say. bert,west colo

  • Louise in MO

    I am a native Pittsburgher. I lived through the fall of the steel mills. Cause….outlandish union demands; thirteen weeks of paid vacation was just one of them. Long lasting strikes crippled the industry. I also saw the collapse of two grocery chains …..caused by increased union demands. A once triving Pittsburgh lost 35% of its population .

    Union officials were corrupt thugs, often beating people up, smashing their cars and burning their homes to the ground. This was their “collective bargaining” behavior in those days. So, these protests by public employees leave me less than supportive.

    The public education system in America today is terribly flawed and my grandchildren thankfully can attend a private school; two of them are home-schooled. When school teachers call in sick when they aren’t and take to the streets with obscene signs and foul language…who wants them teaching our children?

  • Change In Wisconsin

    Where was all of this protesting and rioting when Jim Doyle was blowing $3.6B more money than he had to spend.

    I bet it all went to his rich DEMOCRAT friends.

  • Rex

    The government (BOTH PARTIES) refuse to address the FED RESERVE and BANKSTER issue to end the FED and punish the BANKSTERS who robbed our nation blind.

    BOTH PARTIES also refuse to end our Disasterous Trade policies of NAFTA, CAFTA, GATT and the WTO.

    We’re still paying for ILLEGAL ALIENS. Why should we be paying for their FREE BIRTHS, WIC, food stamps, housing, legal services, language services and FREE school (including FREE breakfasts and lunches) and in some cases, they already get the DREAM ACT.

    These cowards that dare to themselves “representatives” have NOT represented us in a very long time.

    They only serve their Globalist-goverminded Bankster and Corporate masters!

  • Donna

    Comments from a disabled, former teacher: (Please be patient and stay with me on this. This may be long, but what I have to say may change your life.)

    As Bob said, the politicians and Obama just gave billions of dollars away in tax breaks to the wealthy in December, since “the rich need more money.” So now there’s an even larger deficit, and the politicians want to take the money from our services to our children who need the money, so that the politicians can keep giving it to the rich, who don’t need the money. Now there’s a good example of insanity.

    The first writer said Americans need to get real and pay off their debts. That’s just it…the debts aren’t our debts…the debts belong to the corrupt politicians who misspent the money for bribes and favors, and now they are expecting us to pay off their debt for them. And because they have more political power than we do at the moment (the dirty deed of passing the legislation is done)…we’re stuck with the bill.

    Ok, so the bill from the bill that passed has to be paid…well, there are many other areas where badly needed cuts should be made. For one- unfathomable amounts of money are spent every single day for military spending!!!

    But we are all really missing the second point, which is that there ISN’T any savings in sucking money out of our education system. It’s ludicrous to not look at the research that shows this. When Reagan closed the Boy’s Clubs all over the US, it only raised state costs in crime. It left the kids out in the street with nothing to do but get into drugs, gangs, and vandalism, etc. When you hurt education and teachers, you hurt our children, and when you hurt children, you hurt the country financially. (We also hurt our country morally, and in mental health and physical health, and in countless other ways.) When you lay off teachers, raise student-teacher ratios so that even more students are ignored, cut funds for class materials, cut funds for school lunch, etc., and take away from our children in every way possible, it simply costs us MORE money as our nation has to battle even more crime, vandalism, a higher drop out rate, a higher pregnancy rate, a higher suicide rate, a higher drug rate, a higher gang rate, more shootings by more angry young people etc., etc, Do MORE innocent people need to be murdered by angry young people with guns who might have been saved from ever thinking up a violent act- by a caring teacher? Child neglect makes our streets even more unsafe to walk on than they already are. It creates more home break-ins, more murder. We already have the highest crime rate in the world, by far, compared to other countries. Do we need more? The greatest cost is the cost in human resources, since kids who would have grown up and made a contribution to society are, instead, taking from society. American kids are already in crisis. To take from education is an immoral crime against children and against our nation.

    Our kids usually have one parent or, if they are lucky, two parents working their heads off to pay the bills since the politicians let the utility companies raise their rates year after year. (Former President Jimmy Carter used to put price freezes on utility companies. He wouldn’t allow them to keep raising their rates.) (American parents often have less and less time and patience left for good parenting skills when they get home after a long days work, which results in our kids being raised with the negative influence of television, computer games, and/or internet porn.)

    In summation, do we need any MORE human suffering? More burden on the police, fire department, hospitals, and mental healthcare system?

    An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. It costs far less to prevent problems than to try and fix them once they occur. The last thing we want to do is take from where the money is most needed.

    Let’s look at government waste: Over a billion a day for two lost wars that are killing our young men and women and bankrupting our country? Driver’s licenses, welfare and free medical care for illegal aliens in many states? Citizenship automatically by birth on US soil if illegals sneak across the border and give birth in our hospitals that we pay for? Then there is the billions of dollars given to foreign countries. We give billions of dollars to Egypt, who votes against the US most of the time in the UN. For God’s sake, America can give to our own children. I would like to think we are not cheap and we are not people who allow robbery from children (or the disabled) to pay off politician’s debts.

    Children are our future. If one takes from children, one takes from our future. To take from education is an immoral crime against children and against our nation.

    Even if you eliminate lay offs and keep all the teacher’s employed, but lower the teacher’s benefits and salary, you are still hurting the kids because when you hurt the teachers, you hurt the children. If the teacher can’t afford medical care or to fix their car or to buy healthy food, they are even more stressed out and unable to teach effectively. How can they be a role model for throngs of needy children when they are so heavily burdened?

    My mother was a Wisconsin teacher. I grew up in poverty because of my mother’s salary, which was too low to cover many basic home repairs, clothing and proper food. We’d frequently get a peanut butter or bologna sandwich on white bread for lunch at school. I only have one memory of being able to buy clothes at a store. The rest were someone else’s clothes they’d outgrown. When it rained, we’d run around with pots and pans and towels, catching the drips. I remember sitting on my bed, holding an umbrella, as the rain came in my bedroom through the ceiling. I was a latchkey kid for many years because my mom didn’t get home from her college night classes until late at night after she worked a whole day at an elementary school. She is a hero who helped many very needy children from low income rural homes, many of whose parents both worked long hours, and had little time to spend with them, just as my mother had very little time to spend with me or my brother or sister, which was very upsetting to both her and us. My mother retired after 30 years of grueling work with a full pension, but she lost a good deal of her hard earned pension in the stock market crash after our mostly corrupt gov’t allowed the deregulation of banks so that the banks could rob us blind. (See the film, “Inside Job,” that tracks how the banks set us up and stole our investments. Although there is plenty of evidence, Obama is still not sending anyone to jail or forcing the banks to give us our money back.) She now can’t afford medical care she desperately needs in her 80’s, that will prevent her from dying a slow, living death of dementia. Her mind is slowly going and there is nothing she or I can do about it, since Medicare and her insurance refuses to pay for heavy metal chelation, oxygen therapy, nutritional therapy, and other therapies she needs… this is one of the most agonizing problems I have ever experienced!!! Why can’t I help this hero, who deserves The Golden Years rather than an agonizing, early death by brain death?

    Here is my story:
    I live in Georgia and I can’t help my mother with her medical care because I’m disabled with over 20 illnesses, and in severe, chronic pain throughout almost my entire body. Why am I forced to live in a daily existence that most people would equate with torture? Because Medicare has refused to pay for my treatment for years because several of the treatments I need, such as heavy metal detoxification, is classified as alternative medicine, not mainstream, Allopathic medicine. So it’s not covered. Our healthcare system is controlled by the Big Pharma/Monsanto/Codex/Big Agri/Big Bank/Big Oil/Big War & Weaponry cartel that secretly runs our country, and they make sure that alternative medicine, like herbs and vitamins and naturopathy, are not covered by insurance. This way people have to resort to buying drugs instead of using natural methods to heal the body, and the pharmaceutical companies make more money. Part of what I call “The Corrupt Corporation and Politician Cartel” takeover of America.

    For more info, see
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    and see: YouTube: Nutricide – Criminalizing Natural Health, Vitamins, and Herbs and anything with Dr. Rima Laibow and her husband, General Bert Stubblebine.
    Also see: How to Brainwash a Nation, the interview with the former KGB agent.

    Anyway, so help for disabled and elderly citizens, from social security, to food stamps and other disability programs were cut by politicians in Georgia to help pay off the debt they put us in by giving it to greedy, corrupt companies. (Speaking of the elderly, Georgia has a very high incidence of physical and emotional abuse of the elderly by staff in the underfunded nursing homes all across the state. How’s that to look forward to? Is anyone afraid to grow old? And how much social security will be there in the future to live on in old age, now that the politicians have been stealing our money and spending it?)

    At one point I couldn’t go to the doctor for over two years because they cut the funding for the medical transport vans for the disabled. Why? Because the politicians had almost no controls on the money they gave to the van transportation companies so the greedy companies committed fraud and huge amounts of the money. The politicians then closed down all the van companies, leaving us with no way to get to the doctor. I talked to one lady whose little son had chronic seizures and she couldn’t get him to the doctor.

    Speaking of corrupt companies, let’s take Georgia Power. Without authorization, they have already begun construction of yet another nuclear power plant that we don’t need since we have an excess of electricity in Georgia. They are using our taxes to build it, but Ga Power gets all the profit. The old nuclear power plants are leaking into the ground water and they are going to be kept operating. The water is poisoned in poor, black population areas, so it’s a kind of cultural racism.

    More sick people. More money for Big Pharma.

    Ok, now back to my story. My food stamp allotment of $127/month means I will be hungry for part of the month. The most you can receive per month is around $190 which I am eligible for, but they constantly refuse to give me the food stamps I qualify for, the same way they have done with my social security for eons. I have called one of my political reps over and over again, but after half a dozen calls, my rep’s assistant gave up trying to help me get the food I am supposed to be allowed. At 5’3,” I weigh 95 pounds and if I get much thinner, I will look like I’m straight out of a concentration camp. The churches I have called are routinely out of food and when they do have some, I have had often at least ¾ of the 2 to 3 plastic bags of food be expired, unsafe, or in some way inedible. I am also allergic to wheat, dairy, and sugar, and much of the food they give contains those foods. They said they only have what people donate. I was a dedicated teacher and I could still be working- my great love is still children. But now my life is being wasted and may be entirely lost because of corrupt politicians,
    Big Pharma/Codex/Monsanto, and inability to access the medical care I so desperately need, care that only costs about $1,500, but I am unable to work to earn it. (Obama never even mentioned putting an end to discrimination against alternative medicine, such as Naturopathic doctors who have no coverage by Medicare or other insurance companies. Chiropractors do get coverage, but patients can only receive about $20 to $25 coverage per patient visit.)

    So there you have it.
    This is how the big bully politicians balance the budget that they wrecked by their over spending and bad judgment…by slowly killing disabled and elderly people with denial of healthcare, food, transportation, and other services. And by taking money from our already underfunded education system and needy children.

    I was also just reading that, in NC, politicians are preparing to cut the early start education program, lay off many teachers, and cut the salary and benefits of the rest. (Some info on NC is below, and then my letter continues.)

    Here is information about N. Carolina:
    Article #1:

    Mountain Express News Report:
    Parent-teacher rally to oppose education cuts
    by Brian Postelle on 06/04/2009
    A rally has been planned for Monday at 6 p.m. at Enka High School in response to the possible loss of 80 Buncombe teachers. The rally comes on the heels of news that, due to an education budget currently working its way through the N.C. House of Representatives, class sizes statewide may be increased by two students each. That would mean that 6,000 teachers statewide — 80 in Buncombe County — would not have their contracts renewed. Other school staff, from counselors to, teachers assistants to bus drivers would also be affected.

    Article #2:
    Perdue’s proposals also cut 1,900 state-funded bus driver positions. In addition, 1,700 non-instructional support positions are part of the proposed reductions. Other public education cuts she suggests include 140 central office positions, 290 instructional support positions, and 380 jobs in building administration. School technology and textbooks also took big hits losing millions of dollars, and professional development for educators remains unfunded.

    It’s me again:
    Many single mothers will not be able to work because they can’t afford daycare since no state pre-K is provided, and they may go on welfare. Teachers who can’t find work may have to go on welfare, as well. More costs to the state. The unemployment rate will soar even higher and they will have to funnel money into creating new jobs. What kind of sense is that? Have they saved money? No, not over a period of time. All they have done is hurt a lot of children and teachers. I used to see this kind of thing in the school yard as a teacher: it’s called BULLYING. These are incredibly selfish, greedy politicians who mis-spent OUR money by giving it to corrupt, greedy corporations to line their own political pockets with- now want US to pay for THEIR crime. Just the way Americans were forced to pay for the bank bail outs after the banks robbed us blind. Instead of going to jail, the CEO’s got paid off. These “Big Corps” are all in bed together and the only way out is for Americans to do exactly what the Wi teachers are doing: Taking the power back with media covered public protests and the democratic process.

    I applaud them! It is my hope and prayer that they win. Wisconsin teachers won many years ago when the politicians stole their pension money to spend on politician’s pet projects. Wisconsin teachers have a strong union and they saw what was happening and took swift action. They had saved up the funds to hire a team of high power lawyers and they sued the politicians and won their money back. Americans should be suing the politicians in Washington to get social security and other monies back. Yes, you are “suing yourself,” in many ways, but it seems to be the only way to control the corrupt politicians.

    America is under takeover and we have to get her back. The only way out of hell is to start taking action, and we must ALL take action, quickly. I may not be able to do much, but I walked for a few minutes in the Martin Luther King march in Atlanta in January with a small, lightweight sign. I cried on the way home, from the emotion of seeing the American people standing up for what is right, standing up to be counted. Heroes, every one.

    Will calling our reps, signing petitions, joining protests that are covered by supportive news agencies, waging lawsuits, public political education, and other kinds of democratic processes work?

    Yes, if enough of us take action- the right kind of action. But if we sit by and twiddle our thumbs and allow this, we will surely lose and it will be partly our own fault because we did not exercise our rights when we had them.

    But we should all understand one thing:
    It’s not enough to win a political battle. We need permanent political reform to bring about permanent change. For it is the actual political system that encourages the corruption in that politicians without the funds on their own end up taking money from corporations in exchange for favors…in order to get the funds to run for office. We MUST change how politicians are elected in America or they will continue to represent Big Corporations instead of “We, The People,” who pay their salary in exchange for representation. We could lose more than we can even imagine, including the collapse of the dollar and the entire economy!

    Get out there and be heard, America! Don’t wait until it’s too late!

    Good luck!

    P.S. I know I can sound cynical and prejudice, sometimes, so I want to say thank you, from the bottom of my heart, to all honest politicians who are out there representing the public will and fighting for our rights. Same goes for the wealthy, who pay their taxes fairly and give to the community. THANK YOU SO MUCH- you are all heroes!

  • Bobby Cox

    My question would be this. If the Federal government can’t balance it’s budget, why would anyone expect that anything will improve, when the government itself is the best example of dismal failure?
    Americans can’t raise their debt ceiling. We can’t borrow to pay for heat for light. Government doesn’t pay for our 401k losses.
    I do see economic riots. I do see food riots, in our future. But remember one thing it will be the unions and the ones on the government gravy train that will be having the tantrum. But you need to look at the majority of hard working Americans, struggling or no jobs. They will want America back. They will demand the government cut back and balance the budget. There are enough older people who went through tough times in the 70’s to help younger folks understand what America is about. To the folks who have the temper tantrums…I say tough luck, because when the majority of Americans stand up,
    You will be a voice in the wilderness. And that is my take on things from talking to everyday average Americans who are plain fed up and are on the brink. I predict this summer will be a watershed moment in our countries history.

  • angellight

    Why do the workers have to Sacrifice in this country? How come the Rich and Corporate America aren’t Asked to sacrifice? Why won’t they Do away with their tax cuts, tax breaks, shelters and loopholes. Why won’t they take-up some of the burden put on the backs of the working poor? And FYI, the teachers in Wisconsin did give in to the demands of Gov. Walker — all except the collective bargaining, but that still is not good enough. Wake up America, Hitler abolished Unions in 1933; Sound Familar?

    And that is why GOP have been doing away with the the Manufacturing jobs here in America, to weaken unions, but it also weaknes the middle class and the very fabric America!

  • Dave Shelter

    All of the protests in the world can be summed up. They are all about money. Egypt, Libya, Iran , Bahrain, Wisconsin, there all over the same thing, MONEY. In the middle east the protesters see Americans and the other countries of the west enjoying nice cars, big houses and they want the same for themselves. They see their dictator rulers as taking their share of the pie. Well it’s the same in Madison, Wisconsin, the teachers are protesting over basically the same thing. I have to laugh at these fools in Wisconsin who would fight over a rotten egg. The state of Wisconsin is bankrupt, can’t pay it’s bills, and these people are fighting over a little 5% loss to their pension payments. How do you think they will feel when there is no Wisconsin state government to pay them at all? As a former software developer, I have been doing odd jobs, yes I even swung a mop at McDonald’s, to make a living for the past two years. My website on survival is doing well, click on my name if you want the link ( I live simple, and am actually very happy. I have everything ready for the economic collapse. These protesting greedy teachers have no clue what is about to happen to them…

  • Bonnie

    In my opinion, the unions should pay more into their pensions and toward their health care. If I am to believe the recent news, they have agreed to do so. However, they should not be stripped of their right to organize themselves and have collective bargaining. The crux of the matter is the governor wants to bust the union and will not compromise.

    So my question to everyone who opposes the right of individuals to organize is just how far down the road toward totalitarian government are you willing to go?

  • upsman

    What is this known as the SECOND set of books each local, county and state gov have and feds too? Why doesn’t a news research check it.

    Thank you!

  • bachu

    Dan McDonald’s comments are brilliant & easy to understand at the same time.

  • dea80

    Here is my report that I sent out to my contact list regarding the protests:

    I went with XXX and my brother, XXX. Shortly after we arrived I moved ahead of XXX and XXX to get to the east side where the pro-bill supporters were. The anti-bill crowd was circling the capitol in a march chanting things like “kill the bill”. As I walked along I countered their chanting with “Go Walker”. I was immediately confronted by a guy who got in my face and yelled, “Who are you here with?” I responded with, “these two guys” and turned to show him XXX and XXX coming up behind me. He immediately lowered his tone and nervously laughed. I said “so you want to take me on?’ He then said, not yelling, “go ahead, punch me”. So much for their signs in the capitol rotunda warning that we pro-bill people would be confrontational and not to be provoked by them.

    We continued on and I resumed by chanting to counter their’s. A women immediately again got in my face and demanded to know who paid me to be their. I responded with “no one paid me to be here. Who paid you to be here.” Her answer? “I’m getting paid from your brain trust, which isn’t much.” Nice, huh? These people are the people who have your children held hostage for seven hours a day.

    At the pro-bill portion of the rally there were a lot of neocon speakers including people quoting Sarah Palin and a woman whose claim to fame was that she called in to Rush’s program in regards to the rally and got on to the show and was able to speak to Rush for twenty minutes. I found that speech a little embarrassing. At one point an anti-bill protestor pulled the wires on the speakers and was quickly hauled away by sheriff’s deputies. The speaker wire was quickly reattached and the speeches continued. The rally lasted till about 1:30 p.m. After that we went over the west side of the building and waited for XXX to find XXX for a ride home as XXX had to take my van and leave over a situation he had at home. We waited there for about forty-five minutes and watched the mostly anti-bill crowd marching, chanting, and carrying (really stupid ) signs. Their ignorance and arrogance really came through with their signs and behavior. One sign made a reference to “teaching your retarded kids”. This was a teacher who was calling kids of pro-bill people retarded. This man has a classroom full of children under his control everyday. The militancy of these people really struck me and I wonder what repercussions children will face from these people if their parents are known to be in favor of this bill. There were many signs about compromise but I see no attitude of compromise in any of these people.

    Another constant theme in this crowd was that fact that Govenor Walker had no college education. This really seemed to them to be a problem with him being qualified to be governor. The arrogance of this idea is outrageous and they looked ridiculous with their signs about their “rights being denied them“. These people teach our children and have no idea that the constitution which lists our rights does not once mention unions. Also sign after sign talked about democracy. These are teachers who are absolutely clueless to the knowledge that our government is not a democracy but a constitutional republic. Again we are counting on these people to give our children an education.

    Overall these anti-bill people were pretty arrogant, rude, and in-your-face. If you are wondering if you should home school your children I recommend that you hang out with this crowd of protestors for a few hours and that should help you with your decision. On the bright side there were a few people who carried signs like “I am a teacher and I support this bill.” And the end of the day it was good to go home and get away from these people. I doubt it did any good to go there. The bill will pass and I would like to see the behavior of these people when that happens-or perhaps not.

    In regards to this being a peaceful protest-it is not. When the woman came up to me demanding to know who paid me a police officer immediately got in between us and told us both to leave. There were sheriff’s deputies and Madison police everywhere. Everyone I know who was involved in or witnessed an “event” between opposing parties described an in-your-face, you-have-no-right-to-an-opposing-view attitude. My only hope is that these people do not represent Wisconsin teachers as a whole. I have heard many reports this week of children being harrassed in the classroom for opposing the teachers’ viewpoints or Walker being trashed in the classroom by their teachers.

    One of my biggest thoughts when watching these people is that if you cannot handle having to help pay some of your own pension and more to your health insurance what will these people do when there is no food on the store shelves? When the dollar is worthless? These are the “entitled” people who will believe that they have a “right” to your food that you have stored in preparation for tough times. These people are truly oblivious to what is going on for people in the private sector and that hard times are not coming-they are here.

    My husband worked for GM and we have first hand experience with unions. The UAW is corrupt as the day is long and after years of dealing with them he is very much in favor of Walker’s bill. The corruption of the unions is huge and with unionized government workers we the taxpayers are the ones who lose. Many people say this is not about the money it is about the collective bargaining. I say it is about the money. Particularly the part about not forcing people to pay union dues and a yearly vote to decide to keep the union. That is what scares the union. If the union is so loved by the workers what do they have to worry about. The union bosses would lose a huge cash cow and they know it.

  • mondobeyondo

    Are the outstanding debts we have really our own?

    Well…back in ancient times (1959 or so), the U.S. didn’t owe any foreign government any debt, to the best of my knowledge. We actually funded the Marshall Plan which helped to rebuild much of war-torn Europe. Our federal debt was owed to us, the American people.

    These days, we owe the vast majority to foreign countries and governments who graciously lended us money so we Americans could buy more Chia Pets and cheap TV’s. In exchange, we sold them our economic soul. One of those Faustian type bargains (“Damn Yankees” comes to mind. Some guy selling his soul to the devil, so that the New York Yankees could win the World Series.)

    Bad, bad, bad move on our part. Globalization has been a massive failure for the U.S.
    Asian countries got our industry and manufacturing base – the backbone of an advanced society.

    What did WE get?
    Ch-ch-ch-Chia!! (and $3 picture frames from Wal-Mart)

  • mondobeyondo

    The protests in Wisconsin are about money, but I have to disagree about the protests in the Arab world being about money.

    Those protests and revolutions are more about oppressed people being denied freedom and basic rights. People who want to kick out the local Darth Vader and replace him with someone who actually respects and represents them.

    Thank goodness they’re at least allowed to protest without being shot (although Wacky Qaddafi has a say about that!)

    “Somewhere I read, that the right of Americans is the right to protest FOR rights!”
    Martin Luther King Jr. – April 3, 1968

  • Duke

    Some sound advice about ‘Education’

    “Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehoods school. And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool” (Plato)

  • hadenough

    shut down the fed, and JAIL the crooks,before it’s too is probitlty allready too late.

  • Kevin


    UAW corrupt? Think GM qualifies for Sainthood?

    My wife’s family we’re very hard working UAW workers. Some on “the line” and others in skilled trades. The 30 and out was there for good reason. Ever see what someone functions like after 30 years on “the line”?

    Read up about Walter Reuther and how Ford goons beat him within an inch of his life in 1937. Those same goons killed people when they we’re organizing and walked away scott free.

    The UAW leveled the playing field and the wages and benefits they got their members put many a kid through college. They got paid too much? Nonsense, before “globalization” they we’re doing just fine. Why can compete with 50 cent/hr labor? Not even the textile workers making minimum wage in the south (Norma Ray) could stand up to that.

    I’m not siding with those workers in public service: We’re broke. The root cause was Free Trade agreements / globalization that decimated the middle class and turned tax payers into welfare recipients.From the Physician to the laborer we’re all feeling or will be feeling the effects. None of those feelings will be good.

  • JR

    People rioting in the streets of the United States and chaos,is exactly what the neocon globalists want. Then they can declare martial
    law,and throw the Constitution of the United States in the trash for good.

  • Melissa

    What is wrong with you people? Teachers are not evil and they are not greedy. Tax payers bail out the billionaires, but when teachers want rights, they are called greedy? We are professionals, we are educated and we work very hard. Our work rarely ends and most of need to get an extra part time job to make ends meet. That is poor judgment and you should be disappointed in yourself for being so ill informed and ignorant. As a teacher, I know that I face challenges but I also know how important my students are. I work to ensure that each student feels special and accomplishes each and every lesson and task. (Since my sixth through eighth graders work in photoshop and illustrator and utilize their critical and creative thinking skills on a daily basis, I suppose they know more than half of you know already). If I am going to be getting minimum wage and no benefits, I will work at Starbucks and shed no light on our future. You will see nobodies with a half of a brain teaching your kids. I don’t have kids…so good luck to all of you who do. When your kids can’t make it into college and can’t accomplish basic tasks, teachers will be the ones laughing. I see already many parents who don’t have a clue about raising a child. It’s not only the teacher’s job, but it is also the parent’s job. That is why so many kids are failing to succeed. The parents are failing to parent. GO Wisconsin! You can beat this bill and prove once again that there are intelligent and compassionate people in the U.S.

  • C

    I worked for a school system for two years, most of the schools were plumb full of asbestos, giving the often unlucky teacher cancer later in life, this nation is lost.

  • C.

    Your article left out (unless I missed it)the real complaint of these parasites (i.e., public “servants”/employees), which is collective bargaining “rights” for public employee unions, which are not rights, but come from the general collectivist mindset.

    Wisconsin has been a socialist/communist state for quite sometime. All others are as well, but Wisconsin has a long history of it. Madison is sometimes referred to by those who have eyes to see as “Das Capital” (Karl Marx’s “other book”).

    Back in the ’30s, those who were responsible for the book “Psycho Politics” (a blueprint of how to take us over to that ideology via psychological warfare), were headquartered in Milwaukee.

    Personally, I say close all the non essential offices down and send the all parasites home, especially the public fool system employees that have done little more than turn the sons and daughters into sodomites and whores — and they still can’t read!

    Free Public Education = 10th plank of The Communist Manifesto and it’s funded by the private land rent (a.k.a. “property tax”) described in the 1st plank (abolition of the right to property). And don’t forget to keep funding the rest of this wickedness via the income tax – 2nd plank, comrades.

    Really think it’s a good idea to keep paying for the conquering and enslavement of us and our progeny by continuing to “feed the beast”?

    P.S. The above does not necessarily mean Gov. Walker is a “good guy”, but he’s a little better than the last moron.

  • jan

    I am a teacher in Florida and these statements do no add up. As a start teachers are very unpaid for the amount of work and education that is required. Why do people think we do not contribute to our pensions and healthcare? We do!! For a family we are required to pay for quality healthcare a minimum of almost 600.00 a month. Yes, we do have a pension, but it does not include healthcare and the pension is extremely low unless we contribute to a 401K. I can’t even count the amount of money I have shelled out for my students because simple supplies are just not given…like paper,books that are recent (not 20 years old)…the list goes on and on. The only reason education is targeted is because we make a large percentage of the task force therefore it is easier for those in power to work the numbers.

  • Constitutionalist

    While it seems intuitive to me that largess of government grab bags is wrong, too many people I know and am related too see no problem with robbing producers to fork over money to government created monopolies. I say end government control over education… these so called friends or family of mine literally scream “Why do you hate so much?” or “You are just a greedy selfish person who hates teachers.”

    When I hear these teachers, police, firefighters and others chanting “This is what democracy looks like”… I feel a sense of foreboding and a sense of dread over what is going to come next because democracy is only despotism of the numerical majority. Democracy is in its purest form, pure evil and dangerous. As our Republic dies, it is being replaced, cell by cell by a democracy.

  • Terry

    I totally concur with your observations. I have been looking for this information for a while and I finally found it here. I thank you very much.

  • Marty Slabey

    How about a more recent article than February 2011 since I am making this comment on April 22, 2013?!?
    Marty Slabey
    Canton, MI.

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