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For Americans Wishing To Leave The United States, What Is The Best Country In The World To Move To?

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For those seeking to move outside of the United States, figuring out the best country to move to can be a very daunting task.  There are a ton of social, cultural, economic and safety issues to be considered.  In addition, those who have never been outside of North America should not underestimate the severe “culture shock” that can take place when moving to another nation.  While moving outside of the United States may seem like an attractive alternative, the truth is that it is not easy and it is not something to be done lightly.  But there have been many Americans who have done it successfully and are now loving life.  Our recent article, “Is Moving Out Of The United States A Way To Escape The Coming Economic Collapse?”, generated some really great comments about what various areas of the world are like for Americans who move there.  Today we wanted to share with you some of those comments.  These commenters have some very strong opinions about where the best places for Americans to move to are, but the reality is that each person and each situation is different so keep that in mind as you read these…. 


I’ve lived in China, Vietnam, and am currently living in Malaysia for the last few years. I’ve also traveled extensively during that time. Given the likely future problems in the US it’s certainly prudent to at least evaluate an alternative.

Our top two choices would be New Zealand (NZ) and Costa Rica (CR) with Malaysia coming in 3rd. NZ and CR are both beautiful countries and pretty much self-sufficient in needed resources. English, of course, is the language of NZ and it is widely spoken in CR. Though if you choose a country where English is not the native language; you’d be way better off learning the local language.

Some other options would be: Thailand; a beautiful very expat friendly country. Indonesia, in particular Bali. Vietnam and Cambodia would be OK for the more adventurous and they are cheap, cheap. Australia is fine, though the prices are pretty much US level. Singapore is nice if you want to live in one big city. Malaysia is interesting. It tries very hard to get expats to retire there. They have a formal program called “Malaysia My Second Home” (MM2H). You apply for it, and if you meet the criteria, you get a 10 yr, unlimited entry visa. There should be no trouble renewing it. You need to keep about $30,000 USD in a local bank account, buy a home that costs at least $175,000 USD, and have an income of $3,000 a month. I suspect these requirements will lessen. The program is relatively new and the government hasn’t seem to have chosen which expat group they’re really targeting: rich foreigners, well off investors, or retirees with more modest moola. The country is beautiful and fairly cheap to live in. We have a gorgeous 5,000 sf apartment with great, modern security features. Did I mention it’s on the beach with amazing views. The cost? About $2,400 USD a month!! Our electric bill, and we run the aircon a lot; is $25 bucks. We haven’t used our health insurance yet, as we’d not hit the deductible limit and the prices are very cheap. And the quality of care is 1st rate. My daughter twisted her ankle recently so we put the system to the test. The initial exam by an orthopedic surgeon, xrays, and a soft cast cost about $35 USD! Follow-up visits with the orthopedic surgeon cost $9 USD! Pretty darn good. My primary concern? The worry that the country will become too islamic. It is the official state religion though now it does treat the Chinese and Indian minorities relatively fairly. I’m just not sure it can resist the tendency for islam to become more intrusive and radical. Hopefully not, but the jury is still out.

Overall I’d suggest doing some research and find a few contenders. Then go to these places for a vacation. That will give you some 1st hand data. One thing you notice living overseas is that Americans are the least adventurous, 1st world; folks. We need to get over that.

Bon voyage!

Gringo in Brazil:

I recently made the move to Brazil with my family based primarily on the social and economic factors I witnessed and experienced. In Michigan, I found my business drying up, my home value plummeting, the job market disappearing, etc. More importantly, if the youth I saw at the malls and high schools are any indication of the future leadership of our country; we are in serious trouble. With less than 50% of our youth even graduating from High School, how do we stand a chance.

Fortunately I speak fluent Portuguese so I am able to adapt. I am earning about $1,300/mo plus commissions which is enough for a simple apartment and living expenses. My wife is looking for the right job and should be able to earn about the same which will afford us a modest lifestyle.

Most Americans couldn’t cope with the heat, mosquitoes, open sewers, long lines, hellish traffic, and other cultural issues, unless they could afford to live in a luxury neighborhood and have a maid and personal assistant. However, the outlook here in Brazil is very positive. Most young people are investing in their education and advancement. I liken it to stepping back 70 years in our country and being on the verge of a great industrial revolution that I can be a part of. I have decided it is better to be starting at the bottom of the hill, climbing towards the top, then to be at the top and sliding out of control towards the bottom.

If you can afford it, do what my wife and I did, we took a two month “vacation” a couple of years ago, rented a furnished apartment and did a trial “residency” in which we had time to evaluate the pros and cons. When we moved here last month, we were well prepared, knowing what we were getting into, bringing along the necessary items and resources to be able to live relatively comfortably.

If you can master the native language sufficiently (or take an immersion course when you arrive for 6 months), you can often get a job at a language school, or company needing bi-lingual workers or professionals. Best bet is to scour the classifieds online ahead of time so you have something guaranteed when you arrive.


Australia is the best country in the world to live in. This is the statement of Australians who have been to USA and other countries. It is what USA used to be years ago. It will be a few years before Australia becomes like USA. USA has left its Christian roots and I am afraid there are those who will make sure it never goes back.


Singapore is the best place to live and work. It has a real future and very reasonable taxes. Peaceful, modern, they even speak English (kind of). Bring your best attitude and a necktie, because you have to work and you have to be kind to your neighbors. Who wants to be cloistered nervously behind a wall, anyway?


Best places as far as quality of life? Social Democratic countries like Scandanavia- Norway, Finland, Sweden, Denmark.

If language is a problem Canada would be the closest best choice, then Australia, New Zealand, and for Central America, Costa Rica would be the number one choice for climate, civility, medical care and a beautiful environment.

For most places that provide good quality of life, expect to pay high taxes, which most civilized countries, yours excepted, equate with civilization. I’m afraid you folks are letting your inherent selfishness, ignorance of other cultures, militarism and a “screw you Jack, I’ve got mine” mentality destroy you.

Better than moving, stay there and try to turn things around. You have too much that is still good to lose it all. We’re all hoping-well, your firends are anyway- that you’ll pull out of this before its too late.
Time is running out folks.


Not all Americans are “ugly Americans.” We are guests in the host country and most expats act as such. I retired in Sept 2009 and plan on living, teaching, and writing in Thailand. I have lived and worked overseas before, so this is nothing new for me. You make do and blend in and stay out of trouble. Leave your attitudes and preconceptions at the door when you check in. Otherwise, you will be creating problems for those of us who wish to live in peace and enjoy the pleasures of a different culture.


There are over 100,000 Americans living in Costa Rica and loving it. Things are getting stronger here everyday and in most schools they teach English for half the day and Spanish for the other. The majority of the people like Americans and if you want to have it shipped here you can get everything here that you can get there. WalMart is the largest retail chain here as well as there.

This week Costa Rica moved ahead of the US in medical care. A huge % of the national income is from Medical Tourism. They are using adult stem cell treatment here to cure MS, Heart Decease, diabetes, Spinal Cord Injuries, Cancer and many other conditions. A good source for getting information on Costa Rica is the Association of Residents of Costa Rica.

They have a seminar once a month that brings in Doctors, Lawyers, Dentist, Shippers, Realtors, Investment Councilors and many other experts to brief you on the pros and cons of moving to Costa Rica. There are many communities here that are all American and the “Culture Shock” is nonexistent. The weather is perfect and they have never had a hurricane.


We moved to the French Riviera 10 years ago when we retired. Cost of living here in Nice is much less than New York or any other major American city. We’re on the sea, a big plus, near Italy, also a big plus, and we enjoy terrific food that we can afford. The medical system in France is incomparable and truly inexpensive compared to the U.S. We calculated our fixed living expenses for the year: it came to 11,000 Euros, or about $15,000 for all our taxes, medical coverage, utilities, condo fees, dentistry, etc. We live in a 2 bedroom top floor condo with a very large terrace and 2 balconies. There’s plenty of money left for travel, dining out, movies, and quick jaunts up to London and Paris for culture and ethnic food (especially London). Don’t regret the move at all.


I moved to Ensenada Mexico in 2000. It was the best thing I ever did for my future because there is no future in America. I now enjoy more freedom than I ever had in the US. Spanish is easy to learn and the people are much more friendly here. There are lots of ex-pats here also. In the coming years the US is going to be the worst place to be. Escape now while you still can.


I am an American that immigrated to Australia in 2001 (after Bush took office). My wife and I didn’t like what we saw coming. Politically, culturally, financially and socially.

When Big Media first started covering the US’s economic problems here in 2008 they drug out the old phrase “When America catches a cold Australia gets a flu”. Two plus years on and this couldn’t be further from the truth. The economy here is going great guns, and demand from Asia and a better government are a good part of the reason.

House prices are having solid gains every year, unemployment is reasonably steady, and the federal reserve is trying to raise interest rates to cool the economy (.25% again today)

To that point, the government here doesn’t subsidise 30 year fixed mortgages the way they do in the US, so they can still manage the economy by slightly manipulating interest rates. The longest you can fix a mortgage for is 5 years, at a very high premium, so most people don’t.

America has become an after thought, if not the laughing stock, of many Australians. It saddens me to see how far everything has fallen over there. I no longer try to defend the US or the American people. The time for real public outrage passed many years ago, and I have not only given up on the government, but also on the people themselves. So many dear family and friends spend their lives watching TV while their freedoms, lifestyle, culture and wealth were/are being destroyed around them. Ignorant and apathetic to the realities of the real world. Living with some strange notion of the past as if it represents the present.

Not all is doom and gloom here. And although it could still come, if it does it will have little, if nothing at all, to do with the problems in America.

  • Tera

    I’m an American, and I can’t tell you how badly I want to get out of this country. I want to move to China, but I don’t even have the money to buy food much less a ticket out of here for me and my family. We get foodstamps from the government so we can go buy food, without them we would starve. To be honest, everyone says that America is the strongest country in the world. If so them why are its people suffering. If I could I would get my family out of here to a better future, but its impossable becasue I’m so poor.

    • Carina

      I’m right there with you. Wanna get out, but can’t.

  • infocyde

    I am torn about leaving. On the one hand my ancestors invested a lot in making America what it was. It saddens me enormously to see the sacrifices that my family made down the line result it…this. My grandfather who was a Pearl Harbor pretty much predicted the what was coming before he died about 15 years ago. My father, x-Air Force and now defense contractor sometimes is almost unbearable because he gets so angry at what is happening with the country. Me I’m active with the tea party movement, but unless your average metro-sexual idiot is reigned in and all the side lining small business owners go from groaning to action, things won’t change. Things haven’t gotten uncomfortable enough yet for people to really act, unfortunately things will gradually continue to decline until the frog is fully boiled or there will be a snap all at once and chaos will reign.

    I’m not sure I can leave. House, bills, work, no savings, huge medical bill, struggling to keep afloat. I’d have to pretty much say f’ it and let everything go back to the banks, and from what I understand their reach is long. You may not be able to run from your debts in any country that takes Visa or Mastercard. So I’m kind of stuck. But if things appear to be about to really get bad, I’ll take my chances just grabbing my wife, whatever cash and clothes we have in hand, and getting out anyway we can.

    One point though, if America goes down, expect the whole world to be affected in ways people don’t think about. Having a hegemon is a pain for countries chaffing under its yoke, but not having one causes instability, power vacuums, and often armed conflicts as new players establish new power boundaries. That will affect everyone on the globe. There are places outside of America that will fair better, but no one on the face of the planet will be untouched.

    • Brennan

      Screw the sentimentality. I myself fought for this country and I’m leaving. I went through hell and came back to find that everything the Constitution says I have a right to, I didn’t have a right to. I know how to fight that’s all I know how to do. I’m joining the NZ Army and splitting ways. I too have a mortgage and debt including education debt. Screw it, it’s business, file bankruptcy, get a strategic mortgage, and roll out while they are still letting people leave.

  • Guys, where ever you go, please don’t ever move to India, I have made that mistake and regret it. I thought of that country as developing, its no where close to a developing country and like the local Indians say it will always be like that. I would say CANADA is a good choice for the Americans, although you have to send a resume to work at a gas station but still if you are lucky you will find some thing.

  • Paul

    I have lived in US for 12 years and I have returned to India. I do not think Americans could live here. For people like me who migrated to US, now its time for come back. I love Amrica and Americans a lot. Its really a great country and I had a great time out there.

    I started investing in India from 97 and I do not need to work any more. I am 37 and retired. Indian economy is going strong and next 20 years real growth will be here and China. I am trading both US and Indian market, reason being the time difference does allow me to do that.

    I am having great time here!

  • octaviameister

    If I had the money, I would already have moved.

    My research shows Uruguay would be my final destination, I just need to win the lottery, which will be difficult since I do not play it.

    I figure I can move to Uruguay and live well with $100K or so to start out. Unfortunately, my elderly father believes the economy is great and we are in a recovery, keeping all his money in the stock market. Good bye inheritance!

    My destiny a FEMA camp? Time will tell.

  • ann

    please stay out of Asia, fix your own country first. Don’t assume you’re wanted there. Juth, stay in your own country instead of complaining about others. America will be much worse off than the developing world soon.

    If you do move to another country, learn the language, don’t expect people to accommodate to you. Alot of americans are ignorant to other cultures.

    • erica

      tell that same thing to everyone that floods america from other tax dollars pay to give immigrants benefits i cant even have.
      they dont learn american culture before they come here..they expect american to bow down to their cultures..hypocrite

    • Jake

      Well…aren’t you just sweet. Where are you located? I certainly don’t want to bring my obnoxious, self-serving American ass to your little corner of the world.

    • Emily

      What a moron. All these illegal immagrants come to our country, mooching off of my paycheck, and they dont respect our land, or our language, and the liberals who fight for “tolerance” defend them. Today’s immagrants are part of our economic problem, and since anyone is allowed to come in, it makes it impossible to “Fix our own country”

      You want to talk about someone being ignorant to other peoples cultures should look in the mirror before they set sail to “The land of opportunity”

  • You know, that’s a loaded question…a good one, but loaded nevertheless. Why?

    Well, how can I be sure that the countries I recommend to you are the right ones?

    That’s just it, I CAN’T! NO ONE CAN.
    All of us are as different and distinct as night and day and what works for me may or may not work for you. That’s why I scoff at the so-called gurus that praise this country or that one based solely on the UN Human Development Index or investment opportunities or financial profiles in a manila folder. As you mentioned, there are a ton of things far more important to take into consideration.

    The 2nd biggest mistake I’ve seen potential expats make is having unrealistic expectations. The 1st biggest by far is something the investment gurus simply ignore outright (and is the main reason why most end up back stateside within 2 years).

    My goal is to make sure you move overseas in a LONG-TERM, SUSTAINABLE SUCCESS way without having to jump from country to country wasting time, energy and money. That’s why I teach a system that puts the one person in the world that knows best for you the into decision-making driver’s seat…



    With the right system and the willingness and ability to take action, anyone can find the perfect expat destination…wherever on Earth that may be.

  • sharonsj

    America is where I will stay. You forget that in comparison to other countries, America is huge. We have enormous open spaces and plenty of water, so you can always find somewhere to live that is safe and survivable.

    I’ve got my large house and unpolluted land, lots of trees, year-round water, pets, wild animals, etc. I’ve learned how to live without expensive heat and without buying Chinese crap that falls apart or poisons you. If need be, I could even spin and weave my own clothes. And I have a massive how-to library. And if I stay, I will be able to help my community.

    Instead of facing our problems and trying to solve them, too many of you are running away.

  • If anyone is interested in Costa Rica, we have a place on the Carribbean side, Puerto Viejo in the Limon district. We are trying to sell it since I cannot handle the humidity. It’s a very nice place for a couple or small family in a laid back area of Costa Rica.

  • jw

    Ann wrote:
    March 15th, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    please stay out of Asia, fix your own country first. Don’t assume you’re wanted there. ‘

    Hey, Ann, a lot of Asians who weren’t wanted came to America. Ordinary Americans suffered, but those who were complained were suppressed.

    Now what goes around comes around. Karma is not always pleasant.

    • lina

      SO ************* TRUE

  • I live in the Czech Republic. The cost of living is cheap. Bread costs about a buck, two tops. Eggs are two dollars for a dozen. A pound of ground meat costs about three dollars. A big sack of potatoes costs a buck. A meal in a decent restaurant can easily be had for 10, a beer about a buck and a half. You get the picture. Language is tough, if you don’t know any Slavic tongues. Country is situated nicely, smack in the middle of Europe, with Germany, Austria on the borders and Switzerland not too far either. Hungary is alright, but Poland is still struggling and really not worth ‘sightseeing’. Slovakia has some breathtaking mountains, the Tatras. I love the European way of life, somewhat slower, plus I’m a big soccer fan. Seems everyone in the US is rushed or stressed. After fifteen years here, can’t imagine going back.

    • Wrong23

      I’m in Poland and couldn’t disagree more, been here for three years. It’s an absolutely breath taking place – mountains, sea, great lake area nominated last year to become one of the wonders of the world, the last primordial forest in the EU, great social system, great schooling for my kids and nice healthcare… language – toughest in the world, but I’ve met people here who after living here just few years manage, so not so bad after all. Plenty of investment opportunities. Not for everyone though… cultural differences are huge, but that’s what I enjoy about it most.

      • Matt

        Hi Wrong33,
        It is great that you are living in Poland. Can you let me know how you moved/ got a job there?
        I really need to get out of here..

  • Bateman

    Ann –

    I’ll go anywhere I damn well please.

    And by the way – “alot” is not “a lot”, ie: I will not “alot” another ounce of time to your comment because I have “a lot” to do.

    And also – it’s America, not america. And also again, you’re likely referring to United States citizens correct? “Americans” can be found from the northern coast of Alaska to the southern tip of Chile.

    A non-ignorant “American”.

  • I’ve lived in Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and spent some time in Australia and Thailand.

    While Australia and Thailand would be the best picks of the four to live permanently, I am now learning all I can of the central and south American countries. They seem to be getting the highest recommendations from all the people I’ve spoken to that live there.

  • Whatever you do don’t come to Thailand. There are too many DUHmerican’ts here already!!!!!!

    • Larry

      Hey bosunj, Piss off. If I wanted to go to Thailand, I would. Your remark about Americans being stupid shows your mentality. What a dumb shit. This country has done in just over 300 years, more than the world has done in thousands.

      Unfortunately, it is not Americans, but the elitist jackasses who have made this country what it is. Unfortunately, it will fall just like every other country. Including Thailand.

      In not so long, we will all experience the wrath of the wealthy, unmoral, pieces of ********* that want their world government. May they all burn in hell.

  • As an Australian who has lived around the world, I have to agree with the comments about it being a decent place to live. Strong economy, circa 5% unemployment, fantastic place to raise children, beautiful scenery, very advanced cities (Sydney is the largest with 4.2m people, followed by Melbourne with 3.8m) but tranquil beach and country regions. Pretty much something for everyone… This country is massive – equivalent to the USA or Europe in size

    Not sure about the doomsday issues for the world – we’ve confronted them before and survived (I don’t see a WW2 on the horizon and the US rebuilt itself after the Great Depression).

    As a nation of immigrants, much like the US, the get on and do it attitude is part of our national psyche. When we were first colonised we were that much more isolated than even the US from the UK, so our founding fathers really had to make do with what was on hand.

    However, we don’t like loud-mouthed, holier-than-thou people.

    Welcome to have a look around…

  • Ivan New Zealand

    It would not be a good idea for you people to try to move to NZ. Residents of cowardly countries that torture prisoners and murder Pakistani children by remote control are not exactly admired here.

    • erica what the dutch did when they took over Australia and NZ…we have to defend ourselves against muslims who want to destroy America by any means. Those poor tortured prisoners are pieces of crap that deserve what they get..ask the victims of 9/11

  • transpac pilot

    Ivan – You must be one of those cool, relaxed, intelligent New Zealanders we all exactly admire so much.

  • I moved to Costa Rica five years ago due to the general decline I saw coming in the U.S. Costa Rica has the strongest middle class in Central America, the lowest crime rate, and — most importantly — a history of peace without a military. The health care system is not perfect, but is light years beyond the U.S. For those who are looking for a self-sufficient lifestyle, Costa Rica is still very locally driven where every community is self supporting. Perfect year-round climate, and only 5 hours flight from most U.S. cities. I have started a relocation and tourism business here, so if anyone needs more information, feel free to contact me at

  • fergie

    Well since Obama is 10 X worst then Bush it looks like I need to get going. The Democrat party is so corrupt and 10 X worst than Republicans. Who is going to pay for the $14 Trillion dollar debt? Not me.

    Austrialia looks like the best bet for me. Just hoping Texas or Wyoming secedes soon.

  • wacky pete

    What ann said is quite right. Why should countries welcome you to their land when you’ve perfectly screwed up your own?

    Oh sure, you’ll tell me it’s the elites that did it, and that you’re poor, and that you can’t do anything about it. That’s total BS and you know it.

    If you are still so mindlessly, cruelly indifferent to what you to do the world by walking into the voting booth and pulling the lever for bloodthirsty maniac #1 (republican) or bloodthirsty maniac #2 (democrat) instead of standing up and doing what is right, well, I wouldn’t want you in my country either.

    • erica

      china is a horrible cruel commie country, ann is wrong

  • big wave

    how about 1st world Berlin Germany…..low rents and the best artists scene anywhere in the world….i am an ashamed american….sad how the corrupt pols did this to us.

  • Chris

    Hey Ivan, most of us that want to leave the U.S. do not support the endless wars and the murder of innocents, please do not lump us all together just because we live here. I was born American, it’s not something I chose.
    I have friends in El Salvador and Colombia that I plan to visit and I may move to one of those, but I find Russia fascinating also.

    • dontknow

      my grandma fled germany during the switch from nazi to ussr in her region she said during the nazi occupation the horror stories of seein jewish families rounded up and not bein able to do anything not bein able to trust anyone she said she said that after america beat the nazis they celebrating with joy only to find out that the ussr was takin over she hated feeling unsafe uncertain so she and my grandpa snuck here to america everything was ok she felt safe they ran a bakery then vietnam came they forced her children to go fight in vietnam they all lived but came back had health and mental problems agent orange she lived to be 103 my grandpa died in the 80s she watched all her sons die from that agent orange stuff as i grew up she always told me to save my money and move to australia her sister moved there after germany she loved if there. my grandma died in 2000 she said if war was to happen to just leave i have a son now just starting school and i think i can provide him a better life if we go to where my distant cousins live in australia i found a few on fb explained how bad our history has been since the family moved to the united states i really like how she describes it out of the loop away from all the caos and americans here are so adicted to usless things materials i was raised on that when you die you can take that stuff with you. americans will protest corp greed meanwhile buy iphones and feed it. so i will be moving away to from here. i can speak 2 languages german and american. i have saved up for 5 years just so i can do this hopefully austrlia will except me even though i was born in america nothing good has happen i need to seek a new begin not for me but my son and my distant family welcomes me to austrlia with open arms so yes you can hate americans. and yes jeremiah you guys are all respnsible i have no debt what so ever and i raise a child by myself through not bein adicted to things i dont need i have saved up just to go away. all you americans are to blame you are all so greedy so wastful alwayslook for a handout. the greatest day will be when i am out of here even if aussies dont like me it can not compare to the hell we went through when my family moved here. i belong with my grandma would be proud of me im sure that i saved money never got in debt. ive never voted because i dont like this democrat republican stuff the all do the same thing they think just for themself “a good leader will be a servant to his followers” quote from the lord jesus christ

  • Jeremiah Johnson

    Whoa there! Those of us who wish we could leave aren’t responsible for the state of the US, it’s people like Tera and Octaviameister above who sit around complaining someone else won’t pay their way instead of putting in the sweat equity to get where they want to go.

    There is no place for us to go. America was IT: founded and made great by folks who fled spiritual, financial, and political oppression everywhere else in the World so they could determine their destiny HERE. No place but America can provide what Obama refugees are looking for.

    Who’s up for off-world?

  • Eric

    wacky pete: I vote, but I have never belonged to either of our hated main parties (and I’m not a fake “independent”) nor have I voted for them. In most countries where I look like the natives, I’m often mistaken for one.

    What about those of us that are not like the rest of our kind? Some of us cannot help where we were born.

    Would any country accept refugees like me?

  • Francisco Almeida

    Here I go:

    South Brazil is mild weather, European immigrant descendants, growing industry, growing revenues, peacefulness and friendlyness, and …

    … no mosquitos, no Amazonic heat !

  • organicfrmr

    Now what goes around comes around. Karma is not always pleasant…..

    That’s exactly why we’re contemplating leaving this place, america’s karma is comming back to bite her in the ass.

  • david clay

    I just wanted to express that if any americans believe that australia will be imune to economic collapse, think again. Do your research. I noted the comments made by one U.S. expat here that our economy is “going gangbusters 2 years down the track”. I find that statement very simplistic and naive. We are being held together by government intervention, mineral export, and consumer ignorance. That can all change dramaticaly. If our interest rates rise greatly, which they may, we can expect a lot of stress. Public debt (ei: credit card and mortgage)has passed one trillion dollars. For our small population, this is very worrying. Generaly, it is true that if the U.S. catches cold, we go down. We are only experianceing a delay. Nothing more.

  • Sherylynn

    sharonsj …. I love and support your comment!

  • Syed

    Hi, I lived in the US for 23 years, and in 2005 picked up and left for New Zealand. Lived there for 3 years before moving to Malaysia for further studies (Ph.D. in Islamic Finance). I am longing to return to New Zealand – great place and good people with respect for alternative views.

  • Voted

    I’ve voted! Made it out of the USA. Didn’t have much money, have 5 children, and don’t know the language. The good news is we are learning the native tongue at a torrid pace. Education system is stellar, and loving life. We still have the option to go back, but for now, I’m tired of it all. I tried to ignore it on a national level and just get involved with it locally. It found its way into my everyday life through my kids, the stores, the jobs… Enough. Don’t regret the choice. One piece of advice: If you make up your mind, don’t worry about the details, just push as hard as you can to get there. People are going to discourage you, that is because they have no courage themselves. Just figured out what the phase means “see ya, wouldn’t want to be ya”

    • erica

      you are an overpopulator, you are arrogant to think you needed to spread your seed 5times..i wonder how much of other people hard earned money you used to raise your 5 kids

      • mskaty

        You talk like a frustrated homosexual on public assistance.

      • heimerdinger

        I agree with Erica. Stop making more babies. The world is reaching 7 billion people already. That’s 7, 000, 000, 000 people! That’s NINE zeroes after the 7.

    • Um, Voted? Just curious… where did you move your family to? Don’t you think it would have been been helpful to include that little bit of information? ;\

  • Even if I may be going off topic but are there any Americans who forsaken and plan to forsake the U.S. all because they’re bored with American culture or lifestyle and therefore want to experience a different type of culture and lifestyle? Also have some Americans left or plan to leave the U.S. because they feel that the U.S. is too large area wise and in fact is it possible that some Americans wonder what’s the point of there being 50 states when they don’t feel like 50 individual nations? I’m curious to know what are your thoughts ?

    Although I myself have not really made plans to leave Canada(my country) for the U.S. the fact is I overall enjoy visiting the U.S.(usually it’s Minnesota we visit since I have a sister and her family residing there),though it’s a matter of conjecture but I appreciate Canada being overall culturally similar to the States and finally don’t anyone take this the wrong way but for the most part I’m only surprised that there are Americans who are happier living outside their birth-land but then again wherever they choose to live is their decision.

  • kathy

    Canuck Man,
    I am considering leaving this hellhole cuz I cannot even recognize it as being America anymore! This country is the entire globe’s dumping ground for people who have no interest in supporting themselves; so, they move here & who gets to prop them up? The “middle class” of America — who, btw, does not even exist anymore thanks to bleeding us dry by Bush & now Obama. Also tired of catering to “specialty groups” of race/religion. Sick of folks living here for 30 years & can’t (or won’t)speak 1 word of English. Tired of being bled dry & seeing “poor” people buy steak with their govt free card while I buy cheap hamburger. Sick of so many folks paying ZERO taxes, while I get reamed. Tired of being barbecued by every politician (know matter that you vote them out at every opportunity). Tired of the United States of the Corporate Whore, which is the REAL name of this country now. Corporations call the tune; the public gets hosed. Dude, Canada is not anywhere near this hellhole of a mess. And I didn’t even mention the crime!!!

  • Where ever you go…

    We pondered upon the idea of leaving America. But why? Did we not believe in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights? Is that not why this land accepted those seeking escape from religious persecutions?

    We may have been misled into believing in certain ideas that contained bad intent and conspired by certain groups of people. But we are so pleased to see a LOT of Americans waking-up to the Real Truth.

    We came to this country with a dream to become Americans, not US Citizens. There is a difference, you see. Those who do not accept the system have only one choice and that is non-compliance. Research “96 is your fix.” It will do you very good to face your fears and understand the scope of the actual worldly events.

    Where ever you go, you will face different set of problems. Some of them you will tackle. But what truly will matter are the reasons why you left. If that was fear – it will chase you anywhere you go. You and I know it.


  • ron

    oh come on..if you cant get a job in usa forget cant get a job anywhere!

  • Ted

    I left NY around 8 years ago,i now live in Istanbul, Turkey,Warm people, excellent infrastructure, thriving businesses, Good weather, and wonderful food.
    It was my best decision ever and i am planning to live here for the next 25 years. One major problem that can face you is to find a job and to learn the language.

  • TT

    Stay where you are, and move to different cities in USA. You think US is bad? Try other countries, at least there is an affordable life in USA!

    I am moving to Canada and hopefully to USA from Australia. Life in Australia is beyond imagination how expensive it is, it is about 2 to 3 times more expensive than USA.

    Asia is very expensive, never even dream about owing even an apartment there.

  • Alysin09

    I am a single mother that wants to give my child the best life he can have. And I know in my heart that it’s not in the US. I speak nine languages, have a BS in sciences, and a BS in Psychology, and I am still having trouble finding a job over seas. I am still in school pushing for my master’s in hopes that my degrees will pay off. My issue is that you have to have a job in the country you want to move to before they will give you a work visa, but no jobs will hire you without the work visa. It’s a catch 22, really. Well, good luck to all, and maybe we will cross paths in another country one day and share our experiences!

  • Voodootree

    Interesting. A lot 🙂 of vitriol about Americans…

    Here’s a couple of points for you folks out there that are (apparently) so full of hate for these Americans who want to leave:

    1) They (likely) agree with you as to the behavior of the US abroad. Seeing as how they want to LEAVE the US, it stands to reason that they are not amongst the Americans who will yell at you about how America is the “Best” country in the world. They just might believe exactly as you do, and may even feel shame for having had these things done in their name.

    2) Individual Americans have no more power over their government than any other individuals. Prison is appealing to no one, and our “freedoms” have been undermined. Something like 300,000 people disappear in the US each year. Sure some of them are old people or children who wander off – but we all (US citizens) secretly know that if we found the right video or bit of paper we too would vanish. Do not let the US regime deceive you as effectively as it has us – the US is not a democratic republic. Instead (if coolly evaluated) we are far more along the lines of a corporatist fascism.

    3) Some of us have voted against the Republicrats – but to no avail. They have won the war of media and there isn’t much we can do aside from running for cover (in one shape or another) or submitting our children to the pain brought upon us by the cowards, idiots, etc. We tried. We fought. We failed. We were sorely outnumbered. You would hold that against us?

    4) We are not asking for charity. No one on this post has asked for anything for free. We are the builders and thinkers – the visionaries – who seek to leave at this point. Yes: when the ship of the US slips at last under the waves there will be vast throng awash and seeking refuge. That throng will consist of the same blind oafs that sunk their own boat, and I can’t blame you for not wanting them. I surely don’t. But us? We who tried to stop the ship from sinking, we who see the beams splitting. We are not seeking a handout, but peace. We are the people you DO want.

  • Voodootree


    (To the “Love it or leave it” fellows): Well – Here you go. I stopped loving it around the time I learned to read. Can you read?

    When atrocities are committed the force that commits those atrocities is rightfully hated by all good men. It is an atrocity to imprison so many for so little. It is an atrocity to send so many to face death (and to cause it) on the basis of false evidence – and even more egregious to continue (and even redouble) the effort when the fraudulent nature of the evidence is so clearly known. It is an atrocity to bankrupt the peaceful and wise to finance warmongers and the foolish. It is an atrocity to force a man to pay the thief that stole from him.

    And what force does this? What evil on earth is there that does all these things? Yeah… You love that?

    I love this LAND, I love SOME of these people, I love the ideas that the word “freedom” brings to mind – but this empire? Hell no. If you had any sense, you’d be thinking about where to leave to as well.

  • JWF

    I told anyone who would listen (and no one did) back in 2002 to get their Plan B together and get the Hell out of the US. Everyone looked at me like I was crazy.

    I told people the US was headed for all kinds of disasters, mostly of the political and economic kind and no one seemed to care. I saw it all coming and got out of the US back in 2003 while the getting was still good.

    Now, these same people I tried to warn are stuck in the very train wreck I saw coming and probably couldn’t get out now even if they wanted to.

    If leaving the US appeals to you, then do whatever you have to do to get out while you still can. Learn everything you can from the Internet, take calculated risks and find someplace to go before it’s really too late. I fear that time may have already come…

  • brokenhandsmma

    Ive been looking into many different countries ive been given a couple invites to various muay thai camps around the world looks like Thailand is where i will end up as Doc Thailand is probably the best Muay Thai instructor in the world coupled with an amazing country.

  • brokenhandsmma

    and to all the people saying stay out of our country and all that BS.. why should where you were born dictate where you live or how you spend your life?
    Funny i used to see a huge issue with illegal immigration in the US but ya know they can have it.

  • Sally

    You Americans can be so naive!
    Do you really think you are safe anywhere?
    When all hell breaks loose in these countries (and it will worldwide) who do you think the people will target?
    With no resources, the police will be minimal and you ( Americans) will be targeted first.
    Best to stay and “fight like crazy” for your own country.
    USA is the LAST bastion of freedom on the planet.
    All these people touting other countries know very well how limited their freedoms are.

    • Wrong23

      hahaha, the last bastion of freedom? Are you crazy?

  • Istvan

    Listen up you crybabies; I came to America a very long time ago after the Hungarian Upraising. I wanted nothing but a chance to be a free man in a free country and with nothing, no language, no money, no skills, I made a good life in America but I had to work very hard and do without for a number of years.
    America is a great place to live for all those who are willing to work hard and learn. An Armenian friend of mine told me not that long ago that in America only people who do not succeed are those who do not try.

    • erica

      very true, but democrats have created a welfare lazy country that is taking from the hard working and giving to the people who wont work. obama is turning america into a communist hell hole.

  • Kristoffer

    I have lived in America my whole life and I cannot take the corporate greed anymore that’s literally running the entire country, and the lack of healthcare. “Istvan”, people who come here with nothing and make “something” of themselves isn’t done without a huge amount of greed, which I’m assuming you’re all about basing off of your comment. To some people, like me, money isn’t everything. I prefer to live my life without spending 60 hours a week at work, miserable, just for the money and hoping for a good retirement. You people are the ignorant jackoff’s of the country.

    Take a look at every single bank or hospital. None of those corporations are interested in anything else but money, which is why they grew from a small-town company into the huge corporations today. None of them care about the people, same as the Government.

    As soon as a politician smartens up and decides to fight against this greed, what happens? They’re talked bad about in the “news” (who are also paid off) to the point all the citizens are against doing the just thing, then the politician is paid off by the very corporations their trying to fight. With that amount of greed and corrupt actions, what is any ordinary citizen supposed to do? All of the propaganda, fake news, and corrupt politicians keep the citizens at bay, and that’s how it’ll always stay. So I’m moving. I’m sick of being treated like dirt, living in a shit house, can’t find a job and seeing my family without good healthcare. Meanwhile, I’m seeing every immigrant here who can hardly speak English with a brand new 2 story house and a BMW because the Government prefers to give them money and leave the rest to rot.

  • amerigirl

    I read all your posts. I never understood why some Americans would want to take such a drastic step like moving to another country. Not me! I love the USA and yes we have some problems but we are a huge country with many places that are different from eachother. The great thing here is you can move from one state to another and it can be totally different. I have lived in many states and small cities in the US that are peaceful, beautiful and make you feel like you are in the 1960’s (only with high technology and good infrastructure):) If you think it is expensive then sell your big mansion and live cheaper in a small home, cottage or condo and don’t buy so much “junk”. Me..I would not want to live somewhere where I am the “outsider” foreigner looking at the locals. Most people don’t like Americans anyway and I frankly would rather stay somewhere where I don’t have to defend my nationality or get into arguments about politics. I love America and I don’t care…that’s it simple end-of-argument, I will pay my high taxes, work and support this country and rebuild it here and the mess we are in. I love our mountains, our oceans, our cities (good or bad), i love our history, our sacrifices and tears and our ignorance too. I love our forgiveness and our work ethic. yes we have some stupid people, but we have all types of people from many different countries who call this great nation home. Move from this beautiful and annoying USA. NO WAY…I love it too much. Ex-pat..not me, my dogs love it here too (they are bilingual Spanish and English too :). We watch foreign films and if we want to travel we can hop on an airplane and “visit” the different countries. Live there, no way Jose. Grass is always greener? Just go to Vermont, Kentucky, North Carolina, the forests in the northwest USA. Asia..nope, Australia..nope, South America..nope, Eastern Europe..nope, not for me and doggies..USA YES AW YES. Home Sweet Home.

    • Wrong23

      Nobody hates Americans, nobody will bore you with discussions on politics and policies. They’ll ask you why you chose to leave, but that’s the extent of it. These are just some seriously misguided ideas sold to you by the mainstream media.

  • William Gibson

    I have read most of the posts. My experience is that Nepal would be best if the peace deal is complete over the year.
    peoples there are always friendly and receptive to the peoples from Europe, America and Australia. The money value to the Nepalese rupee is great ! US $ 1: NPR 76 You can enjoy with any trade, business or profesion. Great country in nature: the land of Mt. Everest(top of the world)

  • JC

    Besides Canada, and Australia, what countires could I move to that would have the technical infrastructure to allow me to trade stocks. That’s hos I make money now, and Costa Rica is enticing, but not if I couldn’t access technically efficient trading sites that would allow me to do technical analysis and trade electronically. I like Uruguay too, though I don’t speak spanish now. I know a little, and am also able to pick up languages pretty well.

  • Larry

    America is still the greatest country on the planet, unfortunately, most Americans have bought into the social system and now cannot do anything without a handout. Obama is a shit brain, communist, prick. But so are the past 7-10 presidents. They all buy into the world system and will screw America and sell out American citizens including their own mothers for a buck. It is more than corporate America, it is the same organizations that created the Federal Reserve, IRS, etc. The Illuminati’s and such. It is to late now, we have been to quiet to long, and this Great Nation will fall. I will enjoy life here until I die, and I hope I die taking out a few of the bastards who have destroyed our nation. WE once were a Godly, free nation, now God will lift his hand of protection from us, and I those who think they are above the rest of us will burn in hell.

  • Nate

    I just read in the news that American citizens can now be legally detained as “terror suspects” without trial on US soil. Two wars that the bulk of the population opposes with no sign of ceasing, others on the horizon popping off. 1.3 trillion in tax cuts to education and healthcare by the end of the year? I didn’t VOTE for any of that. We get two choices for president and regardless who we pick he’s going to carry on as the last one. Anyone who isn’t an American: Your idea of how things operate here are lies. Think Nazi Germany. Got it? Good. Those that are American and deny these things: You’re the reason why I plan on getting my family out of this place before I’m murdered in front of them while the rest of my family cheers it on. All because people like me with voices are a threat to the global dominion of the UN and it’s warhorse, the USA.

    • Wrong23

      exactly why we left…

    • Emily

      I completely agree. We are thinking Costa Rica. I have a 2 year old daughter, and the idea of the malitia coming in my house in the middle of the night and separating us or killing us, just because they can, scares the crap out of me. I hear that they are teaching kids how to point out a terrorist in school now, and a couple examples of the signs are having a stockpile of food and toiletries, and also talking about the end of days. Therefore, if you have a Bible in the house, they have the right to assume that you are a terrorist

    • Joe Neckbone

      My words exactly! That’s why I’m about to leave!!!

  • tjisse

    Zambia is a sparsely populated English speaking country without big brother, consumerism, pollution, racism. The coming economic collapse will be accompanied or followed by a big war in the northern hemisphere and with it more state suppression of all rights.

  • Thank God I live with my Philippine wife and new baby son here on the island of Mindanao. I do not miss much of anything in the USA, except the food. I feel more free and relaxed here than in “the land of the free and home of the brave”. No more government interference in my life. Just live it and be happy. No hassels! The USA is a mess now and greatly deteriorated in so many ways. Its hard to tell witch is worse, the arrogent, stupid, brainwashed people in general, or all the levels of government and the endless unneeded rules regulations and laws. Its really a dangerous left wing socialist police state over there, and anyone who does not act like a dummed down, placid mouse, is in danger. Drugs, crime, economic, and social, moral, decline, and discord and disunited fragmented society are evident. Business intrests have sold out the country and bankrupted it. Endless series of usless wars…. If I move again it’s to New Zealand or Australia.

  • anyonymous

    I do not plan to help anyone. I can help to restore the economy. But, I won’t. You deserve it. Because of such abuses by the cops, gay marriage and proposition 8, and Mormons and Mormons cannot restore the economy because poverty will come sooner or later that they will beg God to help them. I will not hear their cries nor I will return my hand to them neither I will give them bread and water nor food. I will treat you as you have treated me. As the Lord saith,vengeance is mine. Because of your pride and racism, I will never help you. Let the poverty eat you up and I will not hear your cries and your pleas and even the cops shall come to poverty and become homeless. Because it shall come to pass. Even my heart breaks into pieces I will not give my eyes to tears and even I love you and feel so much compassion, I will not open my hand to you. Because it is not good to be so much good with you. I am tired to be so much good. I want to move on and forget about you. You have not been good with me. You have ignored me when I was there, you passed by and you never were there for me. You were given to drugs, alcohol, sex, crimes, and no one were with me. Now, pay your price and you will pay your own doom. Because you deserve it.

  • anyonymous

    It is too late! Do not come to pray in the synagogues and in the churches and I will not help you and the Lord will not hear your cries and nor he will help you. I am angry with you. It is too late. I will not accept your offerings and your songs and nor of your tithing. It is too late. Go and have fun without me and be happy and die with poverty. I will not help you even my heart tear part into pieces. I will never help you. The time shall come that you shall regret because you do not know who I am. It is not my obligation to tell you who I am. You do not deserve to know it. Because you will never forgive yourself.

  • tomco

    I think we are getting off the subject here, the question is where is a good place to move to, i am a parent with a 14 year old, i do not wish my child to pay the Obama bills. Where is a easy to immigrate to, good place to live without the American cops stopping me every time i turn around for a bad tailight?

  • sherry

    Here in Costa Rica for 6yrs now, saw what was coming.
    Have an opportunity for those wanting to get out check out our ad

  • Justin

    Hello all, I am a 27 year old young man and i have a few things to say as humble as possible. I am not perfect nor ever will be and I’m looking for some wise advise from those who may be more experienced in life than myself. I have inherited about 100k and i am not proud of this but i have to make a decision. I am not looking to retire rich and i want to work, even if only for charity. What bothers me is i feel guilty when my income is taxed and supports a corrupt government that I don’t want to support but have no choice in the matter. The only budget cuts i see happening in local papers is in the school system and this is disturbing. I just want to move somewhere that doesn’t focus so much on military power and control. I only speak English but I’m willing to start taking classes and learning another language if it is necessary. I want a simple lifestyle without big brother telling me what i can and cant do, and if i pay taxes i want to feel proud that it is supporting the people and not a select few warmongers. (No offense to those brave souls in the military, just towards the ones behind the curtain running the show). What country could i legally move to if i wanted to make a positive impact on society? I just cant support big brother anymore, i feel morally obligated to move. I appreciate any criticism and advise because I’m still so young and really don’t have much family or guidance. Please help and thanks so much

    • dan

      hey justin i feel the same email me we can chat
      i am in south fla, 48 white male

    • Joe Neckbone

      Justin: My advise to you is to not trust anyone with your money. Do your own research and ask questions in a roundabout way. By you telling the world that you are young, have 100K and naive is asking for trouble! You are basically making yourself a sheep in a den of wolves, but that’s just my opinion!

  • benjie

    i think 9/11 has ruined the usa for a long time. it’s a prison. 25% of prisoners in the world are in the ysa.

  • patty

    Best will be Thailand. We are us citizan and been Thailand too long. People are very kind and all American stuff is available. Every thing fine and if you loke travelling all coutries are around. Lots of people from all around the world moving here. All fresh fruit and vegetable. Every thing like USA and you don’t die in nursing home. Move fast. Phuket and Chaigmai is best places. Outside Bangkok too. BKK is best airport. Cabs are cheap about one to two dollar. You don’t need car also.

  • Avers89

    Kinda angry aren’t we all? The question is about what? Someone doesn’t want people from the Americas to move to their country because it is SUCH a great place. Why not move here? If it’s as advanced and free as you say, come on over. Legally, please.

    As for not wanting people to move to your country. Okay. That’s fine, but make sure that no one from yours comes to mine. If that’s the case, then let’s all just close the boarders and get back to basics. My father lost his job because they moved the plant to China. My grandfather was laid off because they hired an illegal immigrant to do his job at a quarter of the wages. You know what they did? They got new jobs. They worked harder for less, and you know what they have now? My grandfather owns a farm. My father and my mother work 12-14 hours 7 days a week to raise their three children, which they thought they could afford, when my father had a good paying job.

    Those who are going to move to your country are the ones that have the ability to do as such as well as the drive. You’re nto going to get the welfare babies or the low income/ghetto families. Why not? Because they cannot even afford to feed themselves and cloth their children. If it’s too hard to get a job, how are they ever going to jump through the hoops required to move to a different country? The answer is that they are not.

    I feel like perhaps everyone here assumed that by Americans it meant “United States Citizens who want a way out from under their bills and to be given a hand out”. People moved here didn’t they? So why can’t they move anywhere else? Long and short of my opinion: the United States is an ok place to live. Good people (for the most part). Some beautiful country side. Booming cities. The problem is the same as can be found anywhere. The greedy and corupt rise to the top. You can fight for it, die for it, be imprisoned for it, or you can run from it.

    You follow Rafiki, he knows the way.

  • How about instead of moving WE FIGHT to take back America!!! America Revolution part two will be the only way. I tired of hearing the only why we can change is by elections. BS, we might have to get a little nasty.

    • How old are you?

      I have re-written this reply several times most of them saying my feelings on revolution and America, but the jest of it was
      Hey we suck a lot maybe not the worst but at the end of the day we suck , and that sentence should be fixed

      ‘the only wAy’ not ‘the only wHy’ but I’m sure that , that has been bothering you.

  • M&C

    My husband and I moved to Ecuador about a month ago from NY. We quit our jobs, put our stuff in storage. In Ecuador we got a $150.00 a month for a beautiful 3 bedroom apt and 2 bathrooms. Overlooking the mountains. It’s sunny everyday, a little chilly at night because it’s winter now, but overall great weather. Food is super cheap we get a healthy meal every afternoon for $1.50 each. It consist of fresh organic juice, homeade soup of the day, and your main course. Rice with salad and either steak, chicken or fish. Depending on what they make that day. It’s all been delicious. Each restaurant makes a different ” almuerzo” everyday. We have lost weight without even trying. Theres a lot of hills to walk because we live at the top of a mountain but its great excersize. We do miss sushi, Italian, Indian, Chinese food from NY & our friends & night life. Themulticulural life of NY. But for now working as designers making US $ we are able to save so much more because we no longer have the NY expenses. We’re gonna give it a year or 6 months. So far so good…+ we are only about 3-4 hrs from Miami if we need an American fix. There’s great opportunity to buy beautiful hoes here…it’s not USA but it has everything you need to live in peace if you need that break to think about the real cost of living.

    • Lauran

      WOW!! I would love to establish com with you about making this type of move. I have nothing here….no family. friends are all married with kids…I am alone in NJ and its too expensive for me. Makes no sense to keep struggling just to make ends meet and be miserable the few moments I do have to breathe. I would love to have a better climate YEAR ROUND and just peace of mind. Im a simple person…I dont need fancy extravagant things. I went to Costa Rica for 6 weeks last summer and just loved how nice everyone was to me…I walked the entire beach daily…felt healthier than I have in years!!

      I do have some savings and right now Im in school finishing up my LPN courses by end of june 2012. I was hoping to go somewhere and learn and get hands on training in clinics or hospitals. I just need a change. I feel myself getting increasingly more depressed and I want my old self back…the happy & hopeful person I used to be.

      Any information and advice you could offer is greatly appreciated!!
      Thanks in advance

    • AJ

      Where in Ecuador did you move, if you don’t mind me asking? My wife and I are interested in getting out of the States for a while, if not permanently. Are you both working there or just on an extended vacation?

    • Tom

      Hey! I’m a graphic / web designer living in Charlotte, NC. I would love to get in contact with you and pick your brain! I’m like Lauran, I need a change.

      Please contact me! Thanks

    • mskaty

      OK Wow!! We are looking at leaving as well. What is there stance on American pets coming in? What part of Ecuador are you in & what can people do for livlihoods?

    • karen

      where in ecuador do u live? Do they use the american dollar? If not what do they use?

    • karen

      do most people speak english there? I am wanting to retire and it would be nice to know where you live and if you have alot of friends from u.s. there. I am single with 2 dogs and would like to retire someplace safe and nice but around people who speak english to. Are there alot of people liveing their for the u.s.?

      • Daniel

        Justt o letyou know, outside of th US and parts of canada, you may find some people to speak english but the in the Western Hemishphere mostly everyone speaks a dialque of Spanish. It does vary from country to country, but it is Spanish.

    • Barry

      How is the crime? Are citizens allowed to protect themselves with guns?

    • nicole

      Tom and Lauran, did you ever relocate to Ecuador? if so, how is it going so far?

    • joey

      M&C Did you mean houses or hoes???? You said “There’s great opportunity to buy beautiful hoes here…”
      Do you mean prostitutes??? hoes=hookers?

      sorry had to ask bc if it is hoes as in hookers then I say WTF

  • Jeff

    It’s sad what’s happening here in this country. So many lucky ones defend it. In America it’s not exactly about hard work anymore, it’s about who you know always. The ability to keep people stupid as well as in debt was established here well by corporations also. You cannot start a solid hiring business like you could years ago.

    I know many of folks who don’t break a sweat and earn more money than I ever will in a week. The system is getting crazy only creating two extremes. I fought for this country right after 9/11 as a young naive person. Using my grandfather’s old stories to see the dream that this country was always suppose to have.

    The company I still unfortunately work for (cause other places are worse), 4 years ago they froze our salaries. No raises yet, this is when the company was bought by an investment group for 500 million.

    Now we are getting sold to Japan for 1 billion. A 500 million dollar profit. Sorry if I may be ignorant in this way of business. But it seems the only one who benefited from this is that group of investors. 400+ jobs well skilled jobs lost, no raises or rewards, a whole lot more work and contract obligations to meet, and less contact with management when problems surfaces.

    I just think the United States of America is becoming the world’s poker table.

    I want out of this country so bad. I don’t even know what happen to people here. The younger generation scares me how dumb they are and everyone seems so easily bought with eyecandy.
    Its even harder for me to get in conversations with folks I hear words but nothing is real. I can’t take this fake pretending this country is great an ol’ country song played over and over like some brain washed nazis would do. I want out of here so bad even though my wife and I just moved into a smaller peaceful town, little house on few acres. But I’d like to have that somewhere else.

    Anyone know of a place you can own some land too?

  • emelio

    there is not such a place anymore… Soon enough we all wear uniforms, work for free and sing patriotic songs… All the globalists touch is cursed;they succeed in their plans because it is too much of “I, Me, and myself”…


    Move to a forest! I know a dude that moved to the amazon rain forest & lives free in peace with nature & another in the alaskan wilderness w/ his wife & children! Nature is true freedom! Get lost in nature! Study it & survive & live an amazing life in NATURE! True freedom, true beauty! 🙂

  • Rose

    I agree this USA is going down the drain and the only people who prosper are the rich and the poor. We are very sad to see the country being destroyed with help from Obama and his cornies.

    • SteMeYo

      You realize that it’s statements like that, that are driving people away from all the rancor and racism in the US these days?

    • Leonard

      I agree with you Rose.
      If Obama gets re-elected I’m looking to get out of the USA

      • elijahblake

        Same here Leonard.. I’m 31 with a 25 year old wife and as of (around July 4th) i’ll have a baby boy…

      • LunarSpoon

        hmm… funny. I was actually researching this topic just in case Romney gets elected. I got out for the first few months of Bush’s second term after I sat in front of the television on election day and cried my eyes out. I just can’t stand to even think of what will happen to this country if Romney is our president.

        • Claude Slagenhop

          There is no way to spend or print our way out of our problems. The only hope is to grow. I don’t mean solar factories or wind-farms or friends of barak industries. Growing means someone has to invest and save and take risk. If you penalize risk, demonize investors, punish success- everyone loses. There is a coming collapse, with too much bloodshed. Obama or Romney- over the cliff we go. At least with Obama a lot of stupid people will be disappointed.

    • Hilarious

      As compared to Rmoney and his cronies, who will work tirelessly for the people.

      You are truly blind. Good luck.

    • NYU Student

      The above is exactly what has made me desperate to leave what was once America. US flag + ****** + racism = American swastika.

      The country is untenable. The hateful have outnumbered the sane.

      I want out.

  • Ray

    This country is so funny. It’s like a comedy/puppet show. People are dumb’d down and are in debt. Student loan debt reaches near a trillion. Fed prints money like it’s no tmrw. The religous leaders still argue over moral issues. People are mad and complain to the government.

    BUT..Lobbyists are in the government. Politicians are funded by Wall Street. Wall Street has always been dominated by the rich families, J.P Morgan, Loeb and Kuhn, Rockerfellers, Rothschilds, etc. But then who are they? What do they stand for? What do they do? Well, now it becomes a “conspiracy” theory.

    It’s weird how im 18 and I’m discovering/learning all this. I’m glad that I’m not the only one out here who feels like this. Hopefully, I can finish my bio degree and become a physicans assistant or something and than move to costa rica or south America. I wish all you guys luck with your plans.

    Btw, can anyone recommend a good investment I could make in the market? I kinda want to buy into silver or commodities right now

    • Rob

      You are 18 and if you have $3,000 lying around Roth IRA is the way to go. When you reach 63-65 years of age and you contribute $5,000 a year or close to that then you will end up with $1-1.5 million.

      • Mike

        We don’t have 45 years to let a Roth IRA mature into 1.5 Million. That is the status quo mindset. This country, this economic system is broken and is about to collapse! We need to think more short term about how to sustain our families in the face of the coming crisis, moving to a better environment (if that is a possibility for you), and getting right with God. The only investment that I could support would be the purchase of small gold and silver coins that you could use to purchase goods and services very soon.

  • Amy

    Am I to understand that all of these countries you are so in love with have no problems? Why do you think America is so in debt? How many countries have we helped? Instead of looking at everything wrong with our country, look at what is right! Now, I’m not saying I wouldn’t love to live in another country, because there is a lot of things I see going on here that I absolutely hate! But I have to wonder why everything is so cheap in other countries? Who are the people profitting off of? Trafficking victims? Yeah, I know. It happens here, too, but it is best to admit it rather than say the United States is a cesspool and everything is grand in this other country. The United States has its problems. So does every other country out there. Let’s at least all be honest here.

    • hush a booboo

      No one is saying that anywhere is safer or better, some are just admitting they would prefer X over this sinking ship of a country.
      I am growing tired of the attitude “It could be worse” . It has made some people not take action for making anything better because it could be worse. Isn’t that annoying ?

      • NYU Student

        I’d stay and fight to make America better, but I am African-American and exhausted from fighting every day of my life to make America better. The racists outnumber us and are growing in numbers every day. Our media is poisoned and the nation’s mind is weak, easily seduced by lies and hyperbole.

        I’d love to see my children one day grow up someplace where their skin color does not make them a target, and where extremist Republicans who said nothing as this country began sinking under Bush are suddenly desperate to leave now that Obama is in office.

        Racists, you made America the way it is with your hate-filled policies. Stay there and enjoy the ride down. The rest of us are going to Norway.

        • Reality

          Republican racists with their hate-filled policies? Give me a break. I agree that there are many ‘racists’ who are Republicans, but they certainly don’t have a monopoly on prejudice. If you really research the hardcore racists – or racialists as they call themselves – as I have studied them and their writings, you’ll find a great many of them are socialists. They want the power of the state to use it to enforce their discriminatory policies. Just look at WWII Germany. It was a socialist state. The main problem with the Repubs is that they’ve become warmongers and have forgotten their roots in support of limited government. And, they incorrectly assume that everyone who is poor is somehow an irresponsible bum. Likewise, the Democrats have abandoned their traditional (and sensible) policies of helping the poor in favor of exploiting the poor in order to garner votes. In other words, both parties have become corrupt. And the politicos know how to keep us divided so we’ll be distracted from larger issue of their corruption and their selling out to lobbyists, etc.

        • Travis

          Your comment is laughable. It was Republican’s that freed slaves. It was Republican’s that push the civil rights movement. It was Democrats, like Woodrow Wilson and LBJ who openly called blacks niggers. Now we have an entire race who vote for Obama because he’s black, even though he’s done nothing but put more of them on welfare, all the while Republicans keep saying you can’t tax forever, cut gov’t spending and they are called racists. I too am tired of racism, and I’m tired of blacks constantly using as an excuse for their shortcomings.

  • fod

    Ray I’m sorry that your generation has to put up with this and have to think of leaving this once great country and that so few people in a short period of time have screwed this country for all of us. If you want to invest in precious metals like at stock of companies minning gold.

    • Nonyabiznus

      Gold mining companies aren’t necessarily good investments, even when they seem promising (look at Kinross losses the last two years, how can you LOSE money mining gold at these prices if you even halfway know what you’re doing!?!)
      Probably it’s best to invest in silver, copper or peer to peer lending. If you want to go traditional, Mickey D’s and Wally World are all over the globe now, so they may survive the coming economic probs……..

  • Ron

    The Republicans have allowed the greed to take over the U.S. Bush destroyed our economy. That’s why I want out of here. And what’s with all the guns and defending people who shot teenagers? It’s a sick society we live in. America has changed.

    • Rod

      It doesn’t matter if you talk about Republicans or Democrats, most from both parties are corrupt and don’t care about the average person. Until Americans forget about party lines and vote out every incumbent the politicians will continue to only care about themselves. If 95% of every incumbent got voted out of office this year, maybe the others that were not up for reelection would wake up. Until something like that happens in America, things will continue to go downhill fast. You have to understand that Americans also now have less FREEDOM than people in most countries.

    • Horace

      It’s not a partisan thing pal. Screw your brain in a little tighter. Obama has only continued and expanded on the policies Bush implemented. Bush did wrong and Obama is enthusiastically following suit. If you are content to be stabbed in the back and thrown under the bus just as long as it is “your guy” then you are the whole problem in a nutshell. Think through the lense of truth first and throw your partisan costume off and you’ll see things in a whole new light. Good luck.

  • Roberto

    I don’t want US Americans living overseas or in my country. They have nothing to add to our cultures. Stay in your country and take care of your politics end economy.

    • Robert

      What country would that be Roberto? I be sure not to go.

    • kim

      Roberto, if you live in mexico why should you care all of the people in mexico have come to the usa ??

    • Mtt Romney

      Likewise. Americans are weary of illegal immigrants, terrorists, and drug smugglers sneaking into our country to wreck the economy and destroy lives. We’re also tired of sending out large quantities of money for foreign aid. We need to stop this now.

  • donnybravo

    i moved to jamaica 8 years took a very long time to get use to the wY THINGS ARE HERE BUT I MUCH PREFER IT TO AMERICA NOW AND FEEL”AT HOME”HERE.I MARRIED A JAMAICAN GIRL and have never been brother says i turned my back on my home country but i haven’t.i am simply happy.when i come up to america to visit it is so stark how americans number one motivation in life is to get “stuff”and money.i can’t understand that anymore.there are many wonderful people in the u.s.but they have been bombarded by what they should do by others(intent on making money off of them!)and they don’t seem to take the trouble to THINK for themselves.we may not have anything to eat tomorrow but we laugh and sing tonite,literally, which do i prefer?jamaica forever.

  • Alf

    It’s all about Jesus, guys. Keep looking up!

  • Robert

    As radical as some would think “Hurricane Bob'” post is, it has a lot of truth in it. We Americans are electing what we think are the moderate middle politicians and hoping they will get something done. Well folks, it ain’t going to happen with Mr. Vanilla Politician man. The middle (Romney) are a bunch of apple polishers that will get no where fast. Always trying to keep everyone happy and never getting nothing done. So we keep electing the people that we think won’t hurt us but in reality they are the source of our collective pain. Now, back to “Hurricane Bob'” post. If the government is truly afraid of the citizens in the USA like the citizens are afraid of the IRS (example only) then we will get things done but that is only part of the problem. The other part of the problem is who votes and this is where I get slammed every time. The real working folks that pay taxes vote for who they think will help them the most and make life a little easier by lowering taxes and restrictions. Well, the non-working folk that don’t pay taxes and expect entitlements vote for who will help them the most by keeping them un-employed and in the money (other peoples money). So I think that if you haven’t paid at least $500K in taxes to the government you should not be allowed to vote. There it is, I said it. Don’t move away to the 3rd world, fight for what we had not so long ago. Lets not become europe and sit on our behinds waiting for the government to hand out our living on a platter. Lets do something about it and get tough with these people that say they are in charge……WE ARE IN CHARGE.

    • Hilarious

      Wow, you clearly have no idea of what the whole point of establishing the United States was about.

      You are deranged.

    • Laronda

      thank you Robert, I like the way you think! Join “Oath Keepers” I did!

    • They see me trollin’ they hating


  • SadAmerican

    If the Republicans win in 2012 I’m outta here..But where to? That is the question. Any suggestions?

    • Quixote

      Could I suggest you try Portland, Oregon in the interim between now and your official expatriation? We were labeled ‘Little Beirut’ by Bush Sr. and take great pride in this. There’s a palpable distaste for conservatism of any type here, and an outward aggression towards the far-right, corporations, tea party advocates, and religious wack-jobs like Christainofacists (i.e. the ‘religious wrong’).
      We also have exceptional beer, copious amounts of marijuana (most of it decriminalized on a state level), fabulous parks, miles of bike trails that run directly through the city, a strong public transportation system, and are situated at the base of beautiful Mount Hood, just one hour’s drive from the Pacific Ocean.

      • dziggy

        Oh Quixote…. for those of us who grew up Portland, I find it horrible that you would try to “sell it” the way you have. Again, like everyone else, you only give the good. Do you quote crime rates? No. Do you quote unemployment rates? No. Don’t listen to him people… Portland IS NOT a great place to be unless you live off society and don’t feel the need to pull your own weight.

        • catt

          Portland is beautiful lots of homeless and unemployment rate is high crime is going up because lack of jobs. Portland is friendly laid back educated hippies living it has a differnt pulse then the rest of the nation. We are fortunate we have traveled to Europe, Malta, South America, Africa, India,Carribean but I still do feel drawn to live anywhere my husband wants me to make a decision, so we are going to Australia my father’s very favorite place on this planet. So we will check it out If Nova Scotia was was warm I would there! We are going to move it just a question of where? When you see the wealthiest and most talented exiting the country quickly what do they know that you don’t know? Since they are interconnectedness to the more elite and powerful they obviously know something. My experience has been when I bump into a super wealthy person they are making plans to exit the country it is mind blowing. Politically I think Clinton said it best, t”there are even people I have to answer to” he told a report that and I think that says it all

        • MichaelinTaiwan

          Does Portland have Rats?

      • I’ll be moving to Portland, Oregon with my boyfriend within the year. I’ve been researching and contemplating leaving the US for years. I still may. I lived abroad as a kid. But I think from what I have learned about Portland, Oregon, it would be the perfect fit for me. An expatriate mentality and lifestyle right here in the States. A Pacific Northwest version of the Florida, Keys; another internal expatriate location. A place where open minded, free thinkers and non-conformists co-exist. Hooray!

        • Steve Nelson

          You sound like the type of people which lead us into this mess.

    • Mtt Romney

      Thank you. Please convince as many of your friends as you can to do the same.

    • Travis

      That’s funny, I feel the same way about Obama. We are less then 100 days away from the biggest tax increase in history.

  • angelfood

    I just read on one website starting in March 2013 all Americans will have to be chipped. This will lead to the breakdown of the American money. No one will be able to buy or sell without this chip in our right hand.You will not be able to leave this country without getting this chip.My suggestion is to start looking for the cheapest place that we could move to before this all takes place. The Obama Administration has ordered all Americans to have this by 2013. He says it is because of health care problems, but believe me it is not. Read Revelations about the number that will have to be taken. Run to the hills and hide because it is coming soon, sooner then you think.

    • KinDn3ss

      Whether this chip will come or not, I shouldn’t be worried about it. Jesus will come again, that’s for sure. Where or when,… – it’s not my problem. I’m just waiting for Him, and when He’ll show up again, oh my! That’s the LAND I want to go to, rather than anywhere else in this world (I still want out of USA too… My wife’s killing me with France, and although I’m European, I still am not convinced that’s a great country to establish a family for yourself). Come Jesus, Come!!!

      • LEWRN

        You are nuts.

        • disgusted and fedup wheelchair

          I agree with you

    • kim

      I have seen this to. I also heard there will be roadblocks set up to force us to take this chip or be put in concentration camps ?? This person that told me this is in the united states army? You will be loaded onto a bus if you don’t take this chip. She said that she was at a training class just for this purpose. So i would love to get out of here if this is really going to happen. I just don’t know how to go about it.

    • Quixote

      Do you know specifically what type of chip this will be? I am slightly allergic to corn so I would really prefer a potato or maybe wheat variety. I’m currently into Sun Chips ‘Harvest Cheddar’, but am totally open to trying out different things.

      (seriously, i do think they are RIFD-ing passports now, so maybe you aren’t that nuts…)

      • disgusted and fedup wheelchair

        your right they have it on passports

    • Hilarious

      You “read on one website”?

      Well, it’s official everyone.

  • metcash

    Here is what I cannot understand. Everyone says everyone is this or that, but never thought that the people calling them this or that are actually THATS too? problem is parents sucks; not people, not adults. Parents. The people who raised you fucked up and say that THEY did it! they did what? WHERE ARE WE AMERICA?! People survived forever with no SS or SSD! This is why we are broke. they don’t WANT to save the world anymore, they are done trying. now they have to save their family. but they wont do WHATS best, they will do what THEY believe to be best. what might that be? exactly what every one else did: 40 hour work week, buy a car buy a house, raise a family. instead of trying to BREAK the CHAIN! why cant enough people move to a small town, elect THEIR friends, and stay off the grid?! It all started that way and got out of control as we all can see. Time to start small and rebuild!

    a sect did this in oregon state, poisoned the entire town so THEIR candidate was elected. look it up!! 1984 Rajneeshee bioterror attack. if THEY could do this why cant WE do something RIGHT?! Something legitimate!? SOMETHING LEGAL! because you all CLAIM benevolence but you will get greedy too.
    Want to form a street? then a city (for use of the word CITY only) block? then a neighborhood? then a township? then a school district? then a county? and then STOP THERE!!?? CREATE A HOA THAT EVERYONE MUST BELONG TO KEEP OUT THE RIFF RAFF??!! then feel FREE to tell everyone you know and NOT who they know, but for their family. Your friend and their immediate family.

    NOW, no blacks, no jews, no irish, no germans, no spanish or portuguese speakers, no indians or white WHITES, definitely no religious people, no atheists either though, no islanders or natives, no aliens, no dogs or cats. Did I forget anyone?

  • Rudy

    The U.S. is a heaping pile of dung.

    • bosunj

      And getting smellier by the minute.

  • mskaty

    How about Singapore?

  • Ali

    First, this is a very serious question(blog) and folks should not just jump on it leaving “quickie” comments and insulting comments.

    Its a valid post there are many who really need direction.

    1st. The reason why USA was loved in the past was because of the money. Nations did not love Americans visiting they loved the tourist dollars. Everyone loves you when you have money to bring.

    2. Americans will fast wake up to see which countries are really their friends and which ones are not…when things turn around the USA will know how exactly how to treat those nations that closed their borders…and things always turn around…

    3. For the Americans who are looking to immigrate out of the country you will have to ask yourselves some hard questions A. What race are you and will you feel comfortable living in xyz country? Be honest. B. Do you have the money to even think about immigration? DO you know about moving costs, renting apartments etc…? C. Many countries give Americans the illusion they are loved while they are not, its the money they like and nothing else… now that you may want to immigrate…what benefit are you to that particular country? You have to have SKILLS that are in DEMAND. Being American does not give a carte blanche to walk in any place you wish. Other countries want Americans that have MONEY and not just a little but a whole lot. They NO NOT want American refugees they want Americans who can even BUY immigration (residency or citizenship”. Yup, several nations allow you to buy your citizenship in business “schemes”. They are called schemes but not in a derogatory way. To sum it up: You have to spend time on the internet researching for hours if not weeks on where to move to. Americans will have to get over the shock of nations they simply cant move to.

    6. Americans who wish to get out( AND YOU SHOULD-just go to YOUTUBE and type search “Global Economic Collapse) should realize this is global. Other countries have not even seen the 1% of it. This is going to be major…so Americans should find countries that are insulated and insulated well. Canada is not as safe as people think…it is the cousin of US and England, US and Canada are so interconnected …well…. I will say no more…its just common sense.

    7. While I can go on and on…here are some countries you may wish to consider 1. Caribbean islands.some are expensive some are easy….you get what you pay for. Nevis…but what will you do there? Look at all South American countries….ALL… do your research. SINGAPORE….is GROSSLY EXPENSIVE…unless you have enough reserves to truly last you…I would avoid it.. INDIA is a great choice…but again…can you cope with the culture shock? Canada is a great choice…but how long will it be a great choice? Canada also is very picky… don’t believe they love Americans….. They will treat Americans with even more scrutiny than others… Again…what skills are you bringing to these countries… Go through each nation and find out their requirements and what the nation is like. Do they even like Americans? Do they like your particular race, class etc…? Don’t be so sure.

    • Qualis Rex

      India is a great choice? Is that why so many Indians are on a waiting-list and desperate to come to the US…STILL? India is beyond governable and the recent gang-rapes underscore the society is beyond redemption. When sectarian violence strikes (and it does MANY times a year, according to amnesty international) it can take the lives of hundreds, with little or no justice for the victims. I’d say the only countries worse-off socially would be India’s neighbours; Bengladesh, Pakistan and Afghanistan (yes, I know it doesn’t border…no need to throw a tizzy and correct). Out of all the other nonsense from posters, yours was the only one I felt compelled to correct, because your misinformation is that dangerous.

      • ra232

        India is a great choice if you are able to accept the culture. It is vastly different from the US. You are not in any more danger of rape there than here. After all we are supposed to have a “rape culture” here.

    • Ariel Castro

      I think the fat single moms are the better off in the US. They have babies from 5 different men, then sue all the men for child support.

  • i came to america years ago I was underage but now im adult and really wanna get out, go back to my homeland, thing is I got no job, no money I got nothing, is there a way other than have to get deported to go back to where I come from? I know I wont make much money back in my country but I dont care, not planning on going back to work either, got my own ideas, i do anything just so I could go back to my homeland, Any of you whores think can help me?

    • A Davies

      Find ways to help yourself and stop being like a huge percentage of Americans. codependent twits! Think for yourself and figure it out. Stop thinking someone else is responsible for you.

  • Mr A

    I would love to find a way to leave this country anonymously…no paperwork whatsoever. Nothing lose …no reason to stay…no one to leave behind. I’m ready for this. Any ideas?

    • I am in same position wish I had ideas

      • im in the same boat… how to get out of here without any issues….. the us is doing things that need to be addressed, but when you do… well you get arrested or in trouble

      • justsoyouknow

        the united states shares borders with other countries. Some of these borders are more heavily guarded than others. It is much easier to get out than it is to get in.

        • EyEs WiDe OpEn

          YEAH 4 NOW.

    • A Grievance With the Flag

      I need answers. Should I hop a freight ship? I have a passport. Can I book a one-way flight without raising eyebrows? What do I do? The time is now.

    • EyEs WiDe OpEn

      check out: Blake Sawyer

    • bebe68

      Sure. Apply for a work visa to a country like Denmark or Switzerland which actually believes in liberty and then relinquish your U.S. citizenship – like Tina Turner just did. I mention Denmark because it’s a heck of a lot easier to work in Denmark than Switzerland and many people speak English. Once you’re in Denmark it makes it easier to work in another European country if you fulfill the requirements of the work visa program.

      • sootheater .

        Switzerland is a good choice for now. There was recently a Sharia parade in Denmark so I don’t know how long that country will be safe.

    • NO BS HERE

      Me too let me know, and I’m ready

    • NO BS HERE

      2 Years ago? Your still here?

    • Mike Breen

      Now completely impossible. The USA has introduced FATCA, US law foisted on the worlds banks. No matter where you go in the world, unless you can survive without banking of financial service of any kind, the USA will know where you are and you will be punished for leaving and not reporting back with your annual bank accounts and tax reports.

    • Perry Grant

      Everything I feared would happen is happening right under our noses. I would leave right now if i could. Why should I even attempt to defend a nation or a people I have no stock with? America has been told for some time now that the time is coming when you will reap what you have sown. And now that time is at hand. Good luck, you’re going to need it.

    • bosunj

      Buy a boat and go. What’s the problem?

    • Firecat

      It is not as difficult as most people make it out to be. Consider one of the basic fears of all the paranoid, xenophobic Trump supporters, as an example… all; those Mexican illegals! The US has one of the strictest immigration vetting systems on the planet, yet there are about 11 million illegal residents in America. Do you think it would be safe to say an American trying the same thing, in another country, would be much easier to accomplish? You bet your ass it is!

      I have lived for 3 months or more, in eight different countries. Excluding the USA, three of those eight countries for more than a couple years. In fact, I could have lived in any one of them for 10, 20 or more years, if I had so chosen to do so. How?

      It’s real simple: Just get to the country where you want to stay! That’s it… just get there! Once you are there, all sorts of opportunities can come your way, if you are even the slightest bit friendly and sociable. Internet based employment, being a local handyman, a techie, artist, writer, musician, day worker … there are so very many things you can do to make and earn money, if you need it – all without the need of a visa.

      You do not need a visa to buy a house or live in your new home. Will you be seeking work that would require a visa? Will you be seeking to enroll in a government recognized educational system?

      Best advice, if you really want to move somewhere… anywhere but elsewhere in the USA … take the next couple months, research where you would like to go – also check visa and residence requirements, as some places (like Belgium) are REALLY EASY and not even worth trying to ignore. Start some type of internet business that will make you at least $800 – $1200 a month. You can worry about how to improve that amount, once in your new home.

      I could, literally, continue for hours, on the so very many ideas and methods I have done and could still easily do.

      But, fair warning, be sure to check the laws with regards to your lifestyle. For instance: drugs? alcohol? sexual orientation? In some countries, your 1st DUI is met with a tiny fine and a ride home from the police. However, I know of one country whose 2nd DUI is met with the death penalty. If you are gay, in many countries, it’s no big deal. In others, it can get you killed. To this regard, America spews it’s delusional nonsense about freedom. Meanwhile, in the Netherlands, you can smoke a joint, while screwing a hooker, right in front of a cop and it is completely legal. However, in Turkey, merely possessing that very same joint can land you with up to a 10 years prison sentence.

  • TheDisillusionedRussian

    My husband is American and I came to the US from Russia via Israel over six years ago.

    As a US citizen, I now realize that this isn’t the land of opportunity and we are looking to get the hell out of here. Our first choice is Canada.

    I have an MBA from one of the top business schools in the country and my husband a BS in engineering from an Ivy League school and an MBA.

    Many would say we have a nice life in Bethesda, MD, but the reality is that we are extremely unhappy having been forced into the rat race just to make ends meet. Our life is expensive, boring, and sterile. I’m outraged that we’ve had to pay $22,000 per year for four years for a Montessori preschool, just because there are no good quality child care centers available in the US. You either pay up, become a stay-at-home Mom, or send your kid to one of the chain centers where he/she won’t learn anything, as they only watch stupid cartoons all day. Now, if we stay, we are faced with paying $30,000 per year for a private school (because public schools here are scary)and footing a $200,000-$300,000 college tuition bill.

    I work for a large engineering company and after they laid off half of the employees, the rest of us are forced to work 24/7. On top of having to come to the office at 8 am and leave at 9 pm, I work over the holidays and every other weekend at no additional pay. Is this what I came here for????

    When I gave birth to my daughter, they said I had to come back to work after three weeks. I’d worked up until I went into labor!

    I also see that most of my friends from grad school are never getting out of debt. It’s so disturbing to see people in their early thirties with over $100,000 in student loans that they will never be able to pay back because of the crappy job market. Many have credit card debt as well, not because they are irresponsible, but because they need money to survive day-to-day.

    I really hope we can get out of this crazy place. I’d dreamed of coming to America since I was a child and now realize the move was one of the biggest mistakes I’ve ever made.

    Be careful what you wish for!

    • SelfEmployedNoFixedAddress

      Wow…you are quite the whiner and complainer, aren’t you?! You brag about your’s and your husband’s education levels, yet you don’t have the smarts to start your own business and create your own destiny (and wealth). And with all that “knowledge” you have obtained, you proceed to have a child that you clearly can’t afford. Stop blaming others and take some responsibility for your own actions/decisions. Grow Up!

      • LEWRN

        Thanks so much, SelfEmployed….! You said EXACTLY what I wanted to say to that sense-of-entitlement person. Bleah….

      • mclott

        I dont think she was braging. I do think she was letting us know the effort she put into being successfull. No ones perfect and that was a very low blow about not being able to afford a child. They are paying their way as US citizens and not living off the system. They can afford their child. They just want the very best education for their baby. I paid for a montessori school for my two children when they where younger but I could not afford to continue to do so. If you are able to continue giving your child a good education please do so because the our future depends on sacrafices as such. Bless you and yours!!!

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      • ron paul

        Dumb American comment. Not everyone should be forced to create a business for themselves. That is to say everyone in their position should be mocked, for not having a “head for business?” That’s exactly what republicans would want you to believe.

        • Veni Vidi Vici

          Agreed, But small business startup may be a better option for some then college.

      • nunyabizness

        wow dude you’re not nice at all. go somewhere else with that bad attitude.

      • gofuckyourself

        @selfemploednofixedaddress: you are whats wrong with our country…from one business owner to another.

        • Veni Vidi Vici

          In a nutshell, Excessive and complex taxation that discourages entrepreneurship combined with corporate welfare and lobbies for Big Business, finally unions and pensions and healthcare which make government larger and more expensive then necessary. All public schools should be private and the money is assigned to each student, this allows school choice.

      • DontTreadOnMe

        You must be an Obama Lover.. Your an idiot.. Our economy is going to crash soon. By 2014 Obama Care is going to put mom and pop businesses out of business which will cause a domino effect. More and more people will loose their jobs over Obama care… If you don’t see this coming you must be watching mainstream media, and have your head in the sand… The majority of people can’t afford to put their kids in great schools, most people work longer hours than they have ever had to work before with less money. The list goes on and on… So before you criticize this woman, you better know what your talking about. You are the clueless one… One more Obama supporter idiot! Go get an education…

        • EyEs WiDe OpEn

          Yeah, he hasn’t got a clue just like many others, I’m with the lady. I don’t have much money at all but I’m searching for another country also because they’re not creating all of these concentration camps for no reason. It’s getting harder, and harder to make it here and pretty soon they’ll be trying to leave but they won’t be able to because they will be denied a passport. In short I’m with the TheDisillusionedRussian. KEEP YOUR HEAD UP AND TRUST YA TO LEAD U BECAUSE HE’S THE ONLY WAY.

        • StavoV

          Say….when you shine a lighted flashlight up to one ear….the light shines out the other….yes?

        • Gingertee

          If all else fails blame Obama. Try to find a more original argument. You are indeed an idiot .

        • RogueChocolate

          This might be the dumbest comment I’ve ever read on the internet. You’re calling someone else an idiot, then go about misspelling every other word and ranting in some psychopathic way about Obamacare. I’m pretty sure the original post had nothing to do with Obama, considering this country has been heading in this direction for the past 30 years. It’s only getting worse, and the reason it’s not much worse now is that we have a Democratic president. Lord help us if the Republicans get back into power.

      • bebe68

        Hmnm. Seems like you have a bit of growing up to do. I saw my employment prospects diminishing and began my own business four years ago. Now, instead of working 50 hour, 5-day weeks, I work 100 hour 7 day weeks. My reward is about 1/2 of what I made before. Got that? I doubled my work commitment for half the pay and ten times the headaches – plus a 50% taxation rate on top of that.

        Have you failed to notice that we have a dictator “president” who is destroying the wealth of the country? People can’t buy much when their income is being distributed to others via Obamacare, inflation and rising taxes. I would escape this country in a heartbeat if I could,

        • Jeff

          Inflation continues to be very low. Unless your household income is over $250k, your taxes under onamacare have not changed. Unless you are among the very wealthy your taxes are probably Lowe today than under Bush. You’re a moron, a slave to your wealthy masters.

          • Terrie Goodson Henderson

            Jeff ask any small buisness. I have friends who were making about 70K online and they passed it yes your beloved president to take 50 pecent of what they make it happened last year. He has killed small buisness.The Big Corps are making more now than they did under Bush. So there!

      • bphilbrick

        Totally agree with your coment. This women’s post is pure ignorance. There obviously very educated AMD well off of they can afford to send there 4 year old to a $22000 preschool. And they claim broke and its Americas fault. Haha. Its there option to stuggle on there 6 figure income. This Russian immigrant should be thankful she even has the opportunity to send her kid to a school like that and have the schooling and job opportunity she has because it would probably never happen in Russia.

    • klou

      You may enjoy Vermont (just 3 hours from Boston and 5 from NYC). The cost of living is still high, but the schools are great (even the public schools), and the quality of life is really good too. The state is very friendly to entrepreneurs and the quality of life and laid back nature here is great.

    • Chris Pasquariello

      Ironically, we are in this mess because of Israel’s influence on US foreign policy in the Middle East (ie the recent multi-trillion dollar war and non-stop military conflicts). Go back to Israel; America wasn’t this bad before the Jews got involved in our financial, political, and educational systems (not to mention the media).

      • bebe68

        What an anti-Semite! My god, you Europeans just won’t stop persecuting Jews, will you? You actually think that the rest of the Middle East is capable of being rational, honest actors on any front?

        • Chris Pasquariello

          The Arabs have been extremely rational considering the oppression they’ve had to deal with from Israel. I’d have nuked them by now.

    • neodeville .

      So sorry you came here. Many of us here have realized that something was wrong with this nation since we were young. As I grew up and became more educated I realized how badly I’ve been lied to my entire life. To hell with the U.S.

      • Perry Grant

        I am 59 years of age at this writing. I came to the realization of what this country really is, and the direction it was taking as early as age 6. Take a look in the Bible as to how you end. Anywhere you read “Babylon” or “Mystery Babylon”, substitute “America”, then the picture will become clearer.

    • Sharon

      Your first mistake was moving to Bethesda Maryland. Very small minded to compare the options of this big country with the limited and poor choices you made. We have a wonderful life with zero debt and everything we need and love on far less money and stress than you have put your self through. Engineers are brainy but don’t always have common sense.

    • Veni Vidi Vici

      Wow I wish I had your problems, try being a paycheck away from homelessness or if your unlucky enough to get a $150 ticket either you don’t eat that week or you lose your license. But I agree Russia might be cold but the USA is spiritualty dead…

  • John

    Hello I lived in the United States in Florida for 11 years with my family lived.
    I moved with my mother from the Czech Republic in early 1999 to live with my dad.
    I was a kid done school there now i am not going to express my self on this subject.
    I just go to the point i wanted to state.

    I don”t care what country it is if its Rome or the Persians if its USA or China or EU i am tired of all of this.

    The world needs a change we don”t need borders we don”t need differences that divide us no more.
    The Illuminati controls our history and they know what there doing but there evil there very evil ?
    I thought Human nature has no Evil or Good ?
    WE create the world we live in want a change then make the change.


  • To remove all your stress and pain in moving from one place to another. it is much more beneficial to hire professional moving company.

    • A Davies

      That’s a good idea if one has two cents to rub together. Many in America have nothing. But it is wise to network and get the help we need. We are not all gifted in doing everything well. It does save much time and stress to make wise decisions if one can.

  • True Believer

    This country is a vile criminal infested cesspool. Like Tom I too am a Creative Designer/Fine Artist living in the hell known as the deep south. I am working now on my immigration and how to be out of this wasteland soon. There is no art here and opportunities are only given to those who are in the know. It’s all about who you know. No place on earth reflects this more than New York City, Cronie Central! But most of all my reasons for leaving are related to the fact that the usa is no place for Men. This society hates men, all men. It is a very dangerous and depressing place for men and boys. Men are completely degraded in this society and blatantly disenfranchised. masculinity is villianized and many males suffer through depression, drugs and loneliness. The usa is a Matriarchal society that follows the old soviet feminist doctrine. Obama’s vision of America is of a society where all families are lesbian and women control are areas of commerce. It is a vision of a manless country. There is no freedom and no democracy here any more. Accept gays or be jailed. Its as simple as that. In addition to this nightmare there is also the issue with Ghetto culture. This filth and those who follow it have laid waste to much of this country’s population centers. It is a “culture” that promotes ignorance, violence and greed. There is no difference between the criminals of Camden nj and those on wall street. America is dead, its soul was killed but most of all, its men were killed. America is no land for Men, leave while you can and have a happier life. Intelligent creative men are the ones who build new possibilities. Lets take our dreams someplace else to lands where men are still appreciated, supported, respected and rewarded for doing the right things.

    • NYU Student

      True Believer, please stay in America.
      You’re precisely the problem here and why all the good people are leaving.

      • David

        Actually it’s you who is the problem, what he said is 100% truth, if you cannot see that then guess what? You are a moron beyond description, and it’s you who needs to stay in the USA to worship Obama as god.

        • NYU says it all.

        • EyEs WiDe OpEn

          Don’t be mad this person is just one of many who don’t know the truth.

    • mclott

      As a women you kinda pissed me off. But as a christian I can say that some of your views is correct. But as a African American my view is this our land is build on bad blood and will always be cursed. You can not steal and kill to get what you have and then stand out and think you are invinsible.There are many things wrong with our country besides our men beind *******. And yes most of them are **********. And its because they will not stand up.Blacks and women had to fight for there rights but ummm men want do the same. Well thats their own fault. So anybody that brought they ass over here on hopes to get a slice of the American pie should had did their homework first. That pie is truly homemade. Rotten, slimmy, and nasty by the bit as its maker America.

      • A Davies

        If you are a true believer, don’t use words like “pissed off” and “a_ _.” Those are profane words and God says not to let any profane thing come from our lips. Also, it is not Godly to live in the past and blame others. As believers, we need to learn to think like God and focus on the solution and not who did what. If you don’t like the rotten, slimmy, nasty America, do something about it besides complaining and pointing fingers. Plan your future with God’s help and get out. God’s benefits and promises work by believing them and acting on them. I hope you will do that and I say that as a servant of God.

        • christianitymakesmeill

          Your “god” is what has polluted this country. More lives have been taken in “his” name than any other reason in the world. Educate yourself.

          • bebe68

            That that award would actually go to Socialism. Believe it or not, failure of a person to think like you do does not indicate stupidity or lack of education. Just a different belief system.

        • Le French Haskins

          Thank you for those words of encouragement , putting God first and acting on it .Planning my future. You don’t know how that has helped me. Thank You.

      • Perry Grant

        Native Americans were brutalized, massacred, and murdered so this evil empire can be perpetuated. The father and mother countries were England and France, after all; two old time tyrannies. America will be living proof that apples truly do not fall far from their trees.

    • David

      I could not have said that better myself. This country, the USA, absolutely hates men 100%. I’m a very good looking blonde hair blue eyed man and I’m hated by women for being a real man, not a gay, and hated by other men who are also just as miserable as myself because we are all competition to each other. The USA is dead, it’s the most pathetic country the world has ever seen before, hands down.

      • Y’allarefullofshit

        Did you ever think that the women hate you because you whine too much? Justsayin…

        • Qualis Rex

          LOL. Sorry…that was awesome (and most likely accurate).

      • P. McCoy

        How ‘manly’ are you really? Can’t stand an independent woman because the rights to abortion and contraception mean you can’t bluff poor sexual performance and force her to spew out a kid for you every 1.5 years until she dies? Or you’re so threatened by LGBT people demanding the same rights that non-Whites were fighting for 70 years ago?

        Or do you support the thug police who negotiate with the Cliven Bundys and their armed terrorists ready to kill, but are’ terrified’ of unarmed Black youths and have to gun them down, leave them to rot like carrion on the streets and desecrate Christian memorials to them by allowing police dogs to urinate on them and finally destroy them with an excelerant for good measure?

        Sounds like a KKK and Elliot Rodger supporter to me. Hets are SO overated!

    • A Davies

      I think you’ve made some very valid points here and I’m a female. The USA has become a culture that promotes ignorance and greed. I remember the day when people paid for their own healthcare by hard work. Unmotivated, irresponsible people weren’t rewarded with government handouts. I have grieved over the loss of this country. I’m totally amazed that so many Americans would elect someone to the highest position in the land, who had almost no experience. What gross ignorance. How is he going to run the most advanced country in the world? We have become a laughing stock to the world. It’s completely insane. Our economy will hit another huge depression within 1-1.5yrs. Run, Forest, Run!!!

    • buttercup

      Wow. Your comments really hit a truth nerve. I actually think you are largely correct. Boys, little children, are arrested for doing healthy, normal boy things. I see american males being humiliated for their beautiful manliness. My father was a real man, a proud Marine, a loving example of integrity, clean shaven and a noted vocalist. I look at males today and see versions of obama, reid, bohner, etc and wonder where have the real men gone? I think you explained it. We are trying to figure how to get out too. So sad what happened to the u.s.a. New Zealand looks good. Canada might be better than this. Costa Rica is being investigated. Best wishes. I don’t have any confidence that America can be revived… she is gone and we mourn.

    • Perry Grant


  • Hi All – I came to the North Shore Region of the Dominican Republic in Nov. 2011 and have gone back “home” 2 times because I take care of my Mom economically. I transitioned from a lawyer to having an online new business. For me, the country I loved simply was not the country I grew up in. I do not blame the people or immigrants, legal or illegal, I blame our elected officials. I will not say what party I lean towards because I believe there are some good persons in both major parties but, let’s be candid, the politics have become some partisan, nothing substantive will ever get done and special interests have become so powerful, the only thing that does get done benefits them and not the people as a whole. This will not change in my lifetime and the precious years I have left mean something to me. Life here is certainly different but, in a simple sense, much more rewarding. I am able to help people without red tape just an act of kindness that goes a long way. Certainly, the government here is just as bad but the funny thing is here, its expected! Imagine the wild west on a beautiful tropical island…just for a moment….:-)

    Economics are just about 35% to 50% less depending about what you are discussing. Labor is about 80% less than the USA for comparable work. Medical insurance is easy to get and about 80% cheaper for medical insurance. There are two large cities for very serious matters. There is no 911 and security is nice to have in your community just because but it should not be misconstrued as we had cruisers and local police stations in our town.

    Food is fresh. Water must be bottled. Beaches are everywhere and pristine. Music is awesome; news is local and you have to try to know what is going on in the world and I use to be a news junky.

    People all smile and why not as they are in a paradise. Sure there are things that I miss but all in all I am much happier.


  • nicole

    My husband and I have been thinking of moving also. Im a massage therapist and he is a computer tech but neither of us have degrees so finding work anywhere in Europe is out of the question. We started looking into Belize, Ecuador, and Costa Rica but we want to visit several times before making a decision. I’ve been researching: cost if living, job Outlook, and health care but I don’t know which one would be better between the three. Any ideas?

    • If you include the DR, check out Cabarete in the North Shore. There is a project just starting near Cabrera on the North Shore as well. It will have an Aman Resorts [there are only 23 in the world now] and I am sure massage therapists will be in demand.. Finally, there is also the Punta Cana region in the SE Carribean side.



    • A Davies

      Do your own research. This is a huge decision and you should not depend on others advise but search things for yourself.

  • nicole

    Thanks Steve! I did have some trouble finding upcoming locations for Aman Resorts in Cabrera. I only came across Playa Grande in DR and newly released ones in the Philippines and Greece. If you have a link to anything regarding expected dates of completion I would appreciate it it. Punta Cana is breathtaking! I would love to be surrounded by such scenery instead of the same old stuff in Texas

    • Hi Nicole – The Cabrera Aman is probably incorrect; it is actually going to be located where the current 13th Hole Green is on the Playa Grande Campo de Golf Course. They are redoing and relocating the 13th Green to accommodate the small but very pricey resort. I used Cabrera since it is referred to in just local speak as the most closest town [+/- 7Km]. I was born and raised in Florida but lived in Houston since 82′. Most definitely, the scenery in the beats DR, both coastal and interior, beats both locations. Best of luck. Steve

      • should read: “…Most definitely, the scenery in the DR, both coastal and interior, beats both locations….”

        • nicole

          Thanks again Steve. I lived in Houston most of my life (the medical center, rice village area, and then in the heights) but I want something different. Its scary to pick up and move somewhere so we plan on traveling quite a bit to see what places we like. What sucks is that some countries require a work visa prior to moving, or other factors like pets and furniture are very difficult to transport. The list of countries that are less complex in regards to relocating is very small but I’m not going to give up. We’re both flexible and realistic in our expectations of things.

          • Hi Nicole – Sell the furniture and get the dogs rabies tested! I brought two dogs with me and, as long as you have the proper papers and flip the guy at the airport $10.00 bucks you and the dog are in quick. Most places you can rent have furniture. There are, for some reason, an abundance of great veterinarians here. Come visit! Steve

          • nicole

            Since we live in Texas, I’m thinking Mexico would be an easier move. I know san miguel and merida are tourist towns and expensive so I am looking into smaller towns nearby

          • A Davies

            I don’t know much about the future of Mexico. I would investigate the government more and what you might expect there economically.

          • A Davies

            I think it’s best to ditch the furnishings and start over. I’ve had to move around the USA a couple of times. It’s just not wise to spend such funds on taking your things with you internationally. Things can be replaced far easier. Cut the strings and fly away. Best wishes.

  • Brian

    Hmmm. “USA is a cess pool” ,”‘hate it here”, ” got no money, no job……don’t plan on going back to work when I get to my homeland”. BLAH BLAH. Get what you can, then high tail it out of there when things get tough or someone doesn’t pay your way anymore. Is that it? PLEASE, by all means, GO!!!!!!!!!! Renounce your citizenship from the USA. Yeah, that’s it… The microchips are coming!!!! RUN!!!!! Romney’s getting elected, obama’s getting re-elected!!! Scream in terror and catch the first thing smoking!!!!!!! What ever excuse you need to conjur up in order to leave, make one up and go. Just don’t come back!!!! I refuse to run from our problems and, granted there are many, but the solution isn’t running away. The solutions are many, like ohh say, making the government stop spending money we don’t have, repairing the judicial system ( 10 yrs of appeals and crap like that……since we pay for that. Harsher penalties for crimes, political term limits without 100 percent retirement. Government official pay reductions( why should they get paid more than our service men and women on the front lines?) stop paying for “pet projects”‘with tax payer money. Using a more than abundant CLEAN nat gas supply for energy, and getting over the whole ” entitlement ” attitude and lazy attitude, and ” I should have everything my way” mentality. TIME TO GROW UP!!!!!! You wanna leave instead of fighting to get this country back in shape? PLEASE DO!!!!! Just don’t come back!!!!!

  • Brian

    Oh yeah, if you would, take Ms. ” You have to sign and pass the bill before you know what’s in it” Palosi with you….. Oh yeah, and you have to give me an open amount – signed check and let it get cashed before you know what it’s for and how much it cost you. Makes sense, doesn’t it ?!?!

  • heathero

    Middle class america is extinct. must wait to exit- terminal parent. Then I’m out. I will no longer support a communist regime- I love the country we had too much to become a part of it’s death. No use in pointing fingers.

    • A Davies

      So well said!!! The best to you. I’m still in the USA because of a very elderly parent. Once that changes, it’s outta here fast.

  • Plain & Simple

    It isnt going to change overnight it wont change in your lifetime!…. but here is how to do it …indoctrination…or telling your kids the truth from the start…. stop filling their heads with fairy tales and other lies.. Tell them the TRUTH… and then you will see a smarter population who wont stand for this any longer!

  • Americans dont run… fight back…. a request from indian friend… all the best.

  • MichaelinTaiwan

    Only a complete fool would think either political party in America give a ******** about you.

    Wake up America, move overseas with your kids and get them out of that mess created by the political parties so many of you love. Dems or Rep. are both criminals and the bank bail-out proves it.

    Wake up

    • DAVID A.

      The two party system in the U.S is fabricated to divide the people . The criminality in Washington is out of control.

    • drewman

      to be fair, no politician in history has ever cared about anything except maintaining power and control (Except George Washington- only leader of a free country who ever ceded power completely voluntarily)

  • Looking to Leave

    It makes me somewhat happy to know that I’m not alone in this. I came to this country from Europe 12 years ago and now I’m looking to leave too. I just don’t see a future here anymore. The debt bubble will collapse eventually and taxes will go way up. It is impossible to talk to people about the problems that this country is facing, especially when you are a immigrant. Everybody seems to expect you to love it here and that it is the best place in the world. I do agree that it is better then many African countries. But is that the standard that we should look to? Many of my friends have no healthcare and basically are waiting to get so sick so that they will end up in the ER, and then eventually by the bankruptcy lawyer. If I had the option I would leave today but with the student loan debt, the mortgage, and no money, it is a bit hard. Considering the costs, most jobs don’t pay nearly enough to live a decent life. Does anybody have any suggestions how to get hired internationally? I’ve tried some websites but no luck.

    • disgusted and fedup wheelchair

      why don’t you go back to your country of birth if it is not that bad of a place.

  • arthur johnson

    Ever hear of Belize?
    Most people can’t tell you where it is.
    They speak English and for a few $$ you can get permanent residency.
    It has the world’s second largest barrier reef, a 1,600 ft waterfall in the mountains and it never gets cold!

  • Here is a good guide for people interested in leaving America.

  • Brooke

    I’m so glad to see I’m not the only one thinking about leaving the country. I currently live in Southern California and can barely afford to get by anymore. There are no jobs, if you do get a job there are no benefits. The government here is so broke they nickle and dime you any way possible. I’ve been wanting to move to Australia for about a year now. I see no hope for this country which really breaks my heart, I never thought I would feel this way. If anyone has any advice on moving to Australia please let me know 🙂

    • SelfEmployedNoFixedAddress

      Brooke, do you think that Australia (or any other first world country) is interested in having an unemployed, broke foreigner immigrate to their country?? You’d be smart to start your own business in the State’s, one that you can do from anywhere in the world.

      • Reality

        Things aren’t that simple, so step off your high horse. I’ve known many self-employed, self-driven, responsible folks here and the truth is, many of them are having a hard time for reasons beyond their control. The U.S. has become corrupt and petty bureaucrats are everywhere looking for reasons to fine people into bankruptcy for not ‘having their papers in order.’ I’ve seen it happen from relatively big businesses to a food stand being closed down on a road I pass by coming home from work, because the business owner didn’t have the proper paper work. You have a small restaurant? You’d better have the latest, most expensive industrial equipment in your kitchen and the fridge better be set exactly at X degrees or you’ll be fined. One of your employees is busted smoking a joint in the bathroom without your knowledge? Here comes the government to seize your assets under asset forfeiture statutes adopted ostensibly to fight ‘big time’ drug dealers, and even though you had no idea your employee was toking up in the bathroom of your restaurant. That is what America has become. It’s not a question of left or right, but rather of right and wrong and both political parties are beholden to lobbyists and megacorptocracy.

    • A Davies

      If you want to know about Australia, do the homework yourself and don’t be dependent on others to educate you. There are plenty of expat Americans in Australia. Connect with them online.

    • MadMike

      Good Luck, Unlike the USA that opens it’s borders to 3rd World low skill immigrants,
      Australia is pretty fussy on who it lets in…

  • john petrino

    as a man of my word the day after that” born again” murderer bush got re-elected we moved to Italy. Living here for 8 years or so I would not live or go back to the US for any realizes what a violent ill place it really is.just go to “fat americans” on your computer and see what people we are. not to mention all the serial killers,phycopaths and prozac takers,and all the supporters of war,not to mention the police state it is.the point is americans,you are not no. one in anything,except war and killing woman and children.who ever reads this:if you can,get out of there as fast as you can,because anywhere in europe is a better place to live.

    • Dear John – As indicated above, I now spend most of my time in the DR. I recently lost my Mother who lived to 88 and it was, by far, my greatest loss in my 56 year old life. I am not usually quick to defend the actions of our broken political system [once again as above, I am not speaking of any particular political party as there are truly good people in all of them who only wish to serve]. However, the political system is not the same that my Mother grew up in or I grew up in. Yes, there was always a Congress, a President and a Judiciary and, yes, there were always Parliamentary Rules of Procedure but something has changed in its functionality. I think the problem of which I speak is as a result of an ever-shrinking middle class so we are left with an increasing number of poor and ‘less than middle class’ citizens that have less and less political clout on the one hand and the small number of wealthy that have more and more political input.

      However, I REPLY to your post because you are flat wrong in generalizing so terribly. If you had directed your statements to the government officials and/or military industrial complex that make decisions to go to war or to elected officials that pass laws that allow persons to be taken into custody on their failure to produce certain documentation, I would agree with your statements regarding war and a police state. But you didn’t. In fact, when you read the rest of your comments all together, you seem to say almost all Americans are bad and that I definitely disagree with. They are generally AWESOME people from all different countries, cultures and heritages. Yes, the American Dream has changed a bunch but the US is still a beacon of freedom and opportunity to many in the world.

      You live in Italy where there are one-fifth of the population of the US; You live in Europe where there is just over twice the population than the US and it includes +/- 35 countries. If you are saying you do not like that melting pot but you should not lump everyone into “…serial killers, phycopaths [sic] and prozac takers…”. There are so many great people in the US and I write to defend them from your generalizations. I am happy you are happy in Italy; I am happy that you were financially able to move.

      In summary, as we watch the bankers crush the world with things like LIBOR; as we watch the Euro, and other currencies, slowly move into the abyss requiring police states everywhere to keep the “haves” protected; as we watch geopolitical decisions being made that make war and/or puppet governments; as we watch corporatocracy run the environment into irreversible damage…..remember that the US masses (1) did not make those things happen and (2) will be suffering with the rest of the world’s citizenry [including you in Italy].


    • Travis

      If you think Bush was bad, you should see the idiot we got now. On January 1, we are going to have the biggest tax increase in history and nobody seems to care.

  • Gary

    As a 70 year old with $7000, poor health, and an ability to forge ahead alone, what is the best country to move?

  • Cee

    all one needs to move are the balls.
    really. i know a bunch of people who have done it without jobs, without a plan, and without help. life just goes on. you find a way to survive… i’m not the typical american, and i don’t hang with typical people, but they make it look easy. for the moment i have a career here, but i do plan to move abroad in 5-10 years. i’ve spent the last ten traveling and trying to decide where to go, there are so many amazing options.. canada (though it’s sort of usa-lite,) australia, new zealand, many countries in europe, argentina, brazil etc etc
    i’m still young enough that i’m going to get my master’s degree, then go.
    but if i was 70, or 17, i’d probably just leave. anything is possible, other countries are a lot cheaper if you can deal with a simpler standard of living, so if you aren’t intimidated by a language barrier just check some places out.

    • A Davies

      If you plan to remain in the USA for 5-10yrs, I think you will miss the boat by many years. We are headed for a huge economic depression within a yr to 1.5yrs. It’s wise to get out while we can and be very realistic about the future of this country. There is no way you want to be here in 1-1.5yrs.

  • CC in Texas

    I did not read all the post/replies…just in case you live outside the U.S. now or are planning to, as I am, please look into the FATCA rules. Some banks are asking U.S. citz to “please find another bank to do business with”. Again, sorry if someone else has posted, but I didn’t have time to read all the replies. Night

  • Olivia

    My husband and I want to move out of the country. Ecuador or Belize. We have $0 in savings but do have his 401k and Employee Stock Option Plan. We know there is a tax hit (substantial) for taking it out early. My question is basically this: In our early 50’s, can we take that money, pack up and move and survive? I’d really like serious answers to this question. We have lived out of the country when we were growing up and understand about cultural differences, etc. We just want to enjoy our time together living a quiet life in a seaside village.

    • Jack


      How much do you have? Unfortunately, there has been a good deal of inflation with the US dollar are around the world. You wouldn’t be able to make it with less than 100,000 in Ecuador, for sure. How much do you have? One possibility would be to move to a country with the intention of living there for 10-15 years, before starting to receive social security. But you might find yourself fairly lonely and alienated if you couldn’t actually live a shade “better” than the locals; i.e. have hot water, internet, cable, etc. Because there are no books or other ways to really entertain yourself. You can email me at jackscholop3 at if you’d like to ask more questions. If you are really set on this, I’d love to help you out, as I have a good deal of experience with one country in particular where you can live very comfortably for around $5,000 per year.

    • A Davies

      Don’t count on the USA having the money to fund your retirement. Where will it come from? I hate to burst your bubble. You need to think of a country where you can make a living there. Don’t rely on the USA to fund your future. Sad but very true. The economy here will only get worst. We have inept people running it, who know zero about managing debt or money. Run, Americans, Run!

  • When I leave, it will not be for reasons entirely my own. I want this land to be depopulated via abandonment, whether or not that can really occur, so TPTB are weakened even more. In light of interactions with Israel, of which I recently became aware, this nation cannot be taken seriously. This land must be weakened and Israel hopefully one day dissolved. But I think people must be helped to make the jump (even illegal immigrants possibly).

  • LeoBassey

    As a proud American my belief is the only way the US will ever again achieve it’s once great status will require a catastrophic upheaval. Our government has become a machine of career politicians devoid of any real concern towards the populace. Their only desire is to maintain the privileged position they have and this is true of both the left and right. These politicians will say whatever they think their constituents want to hear to keep them in office while we continue to pay their bloated and undeserved perks. It amazes me that America has not become aware of this sick and broken form of government. It simply can’t continue this way and soon we will find our lot similar to what is happening in Western Europe. A reckoning is coming and there is no stopping it, every empire has fallen. When the fall happens we the people have only one hope, will the military back us or those on Capitol Hill?

    • Terrie Goodson Henderson

      Leo I think a lot of people of wondering if the military will back us and I know most of military are from the south not all but most and most are Republians or at least conservative if not so yes there is a good chance they would if it came to that but I don’t know if I want to place my bets on that or not. I just want to live somewhere thats normal nice people etc.. Not people who talk trash all day filled with hate for anything that is good.

      • Perry Grant

        I have worked with a few people that have been in the Army, none of which are associated with each other, and each one has told me this; the Army was formed more specifically to protect government from us. Fact? Or fiction? I would appreciate dome reassurance that this might not be correct.

    • Perry Grant

      This is very similar to a post i have made on another page in the past. Every empire all have five basic things in common;
      1) They all thought they were invincible
      2) They all thought their ideology was forever
      3) THEY ALL FELL
      4) They all rotted from within
      5) They all thought themselves to be exempt of #3

  • chahca

    Well, it’s the morning after Ovomit’s re-election. I can’t bear watching the continuation of four more years of wealth distribution, so here I am at this site. I am looking for a place to go that has a similar culture to mine (white,English-speaking),and a society that values hard work and moral standards.

    • Terrie Goodson Henderson

      Amen Chahca after listening to the trash comments above non stop 24 hrs a day. They are devils let loose!


    “USA has left its Christian roots” and it is good ! I wish the whole world will be without these bloody murderers!

    • A Davies

      The USA’s leaving it’s Christian roots is why the country is so unstable. “Righteousness exalts a nation and sin is a reproach to any people.” The nation has abandoned morals and high standards of living. Instead doing anything they wish. Remember Sodom and Gommorah. You need to study the Bible and open your eyes!!! What we send out is what returns to us. America is a sespool of immorality and they have voted in spiritually ignorant leaders whose own lives are spiritually unstable. How can they lead the most advanced country in the world? When people leave God and have no spiritual boundaries, they’re headed for doom. It’s happened in every society in history.

      • Josh8550

        The United States doesn’t even have “Christian roots” you nut case. The majority of the founding fathers were DEISTS who also believed that religion should have no place what-so-ever in government. The “root” is the very beginning so I assume you meant BEFORE the mid 1900’s when Christianity started to impose a little too much on government. Which is when they added “In God we Trust” on money and “God” to the pledge, etc. The United States was never intended to favor any religion in particular. So if you want a Christian nation, why don’t you go start one yourself. I’ll be living contently in my secular nation which should stay such.

        • Wubester

          In god we trust was placed on the dollar because the gold standard was done away with. In god we trust basically means that the tax payer will now back this currency

          • SouthronAmerican

            No, “In God We Trust” was placed on the currency so as to contrast the US with the “godlessness” of the USSR. Ceremonial professions of faith like that became common in the post-WWII era to emphasize disagreement with and protest against global communism.

        • SouthronAmerican

          America was neither founded as a nation based on Evangelical Christian principles nor Secularism as the terms are understood in contemporary usage.

          If we define the founding fathers as the group that drafted the Constitution then they certainly reflected the anti-clericalism and distrust of religious establishment that was common at the time, only a small fraction were what we could deists. The vast majority were with Enlightenment era Christians with the tendencies towards unitarianism and the like that were common during the period.

          However, if we define the founding fathers as the generation who agitated for and then fought the American War for Independence then we’re speaking of a generation that was dominated by orthodox Protestantism, primarily in it’s Anglican and Presbyterian forms. Many of these earlier founders who were still active by the late 1780’s when the Constitution was drafted were deeply anti-Federalist and so, aside for their influence on the Bill of Rights, we don’t see much of them in the Constitution itself.

          By 1824, with the beginning of Jacksonian American, they would again rise to be dominant force in US Public life and would continue to be until the late 19th and early 20th century and the rise of more Liberal Christianity and to a lesser extent out and out secularism which would in turn dominate until the late 1970s and the rise of Evangelicalism which remained dominant until the past few years.

        • Terrie Goodson Henderson

          Josh how old are you 2? Cause you haven’t learned a thing!

      • Josh8550

        Oh, and by the way, you’re saying that every society in history was once Christian and then collapsed? Really? I won’t even start on your ignorance to history…

        • Steve Nelson

          Rome was highly immoral when it collapsed. Just like the immorality that you condone.

          • Terrie Goodson Henderson

            Steve they don’t understand and never will. They are double minded and hypocritical!

      • Cathy Pool

        A Davies, the problem, the REAL problem in the USA is the kiss assing to the JEWS, who have ruined our country and if you can’t see that than you are a HUGE part of the problem. The “christians'” who suck up to Israel are just one of the problems, the other is the JEWS who have a strangle hold on the right and the left media. On the left they push every kind of perversion imaginable, and on the right they push their form of Judeo-Christianity. Filth, utter FILTH, The jews are the downfall of country after country. So go on and call me names, at least I CAN freaking SEE.

        • Terrie Goodson Henderson

          sillly silly cathy you are a idiot too and it is people like you bringing down our country. Israel has always our ally so when everything was good in America Israel was there then nothing has change but hate people like you who have swayed the masses in your direction. You really think all the illegal immigration, terrible healthare, shootings in schools, low paying or no paying jobs, taxes, taxes and more taxes, More people in our prisons than anyone in the world and you actually have the gall to say its cause of the Jews? Hey when I was in High school things were great in our country and I wore a cross around my neck every day. Kids can’t even wear a cross or they are sent home.or expelled. Talk about no freedom of expression but the gays can light up the streets and nothing is said about that .. You want tolerance for that which is immoral but you have no tolerance for others not like you. That is hypocritical! You make no sense despite how smart you think you really are.

      • Terrie Goodson Henderson

        Davies your right and cathy is a idiot!

  • Dustin

    I’m interested in finding any country that doesn’t have the outrageous building code that America has. I just want a tiny little homestead in the countryside, close enough to the equator it doesn’t snow, and let me keep my guns even if I have to jump through some hoops. The economic situation isn’t so important to me because I’m capable of making money optional in my life. It matters, but it’s not the big deal that it is for people who can’t live without it because they’re helpless. USA won’t let me build anything rational, forces me to spend hundreds of thousands on junk I don’t need. Any country that has little to no rural building code, lets me keep my guns, and doesn’t snow. That’s all I want. The rest is details. France?

  • Tupac_ThugAngel

    America just needs to win another major war and they will be back to prominance. It is my belief that Americans should learn to live less for the dollar though. By moving to a smaller country you will escape the perails of life and enjoy breathing again. I lived in america, amongst other places, I lived alot of countries as a youth. I live in Costa Rica ahora. You all should consider here

  • disgusted and fedup wheelchair

    Can anyone tell me about Australia, New Zealand, Mexico, Ecuador, India and how they are for people to start their own business and what is the insurance situation and do they sell insurance to disabled persons like a Kidney patient and how about wheelchairs. Wheelchair Vans do they make and sell those in any of these places. Main thing how easy is it to start a business.? I know their is no welfair in any of these places. I guess these places have a lot of homeless or do they just find jobs? just wondering.

  • disgusted and fedup wheelchair

    I have a question for Americans and long time green card holders who want to leave America for Job or to start a business. I am wondering if you would pay to
    enter a 1 in 10000. chance to win $2,500,000. for
    $3000. for a business started in USA by Americans or
    $12,500. for a business started out side your country of birth immigrating. One thing you may not know but Americans who work overseas have to pay double taxes so the costs are higher for those leaving their own country whether it is Immigrants coming to USA or Americans immigrating to other countries. Anyway
    the lowest is $500,000. to $1,000,000. so a lottery
    for $1,000,000. could be done for $4,000. if the
    bigger one can’t be afforded .
    Would any to be immigrants play for the 1 in 10000
    chance to win $1. Million or $2.5Million

  • Not In Kansas Anymore

    It is now July 2013 here in America – and you folks were all wise to leave back when you did. The gov’t just enacted the “Immigration Innovation Act”, which streamlines entry for the “brightest” hispanics – so there go even more jobs to cheaper labor! There’s a reward in knowing they’ll get what they pay for! This, on top of the patriot whistleblower who exposed the NSA massive covert surveillance program on everyone & everything; 24/7. George Orwell’s “1984” has come to fruition. Yes, it’s clearly time to go – well past it, actually – shoulda left when all you guys did. This is not the country I was born in – so they can have it; I shall commence finding out what i must do to get out of here. I shall back out gracefully
    and leave them to their cheap labor and cheap products and “Monopoly Money” system. The French Riviera sounds nice to me – thanks to all of you for your input here; it gives me hope that I can do it too.

  • Olaf

    I lived in Germany for 16 years before returning to the U.S. a few years ago for a brief intermission and to test the waters here one final time. I must say that the waters have grown more stagnant than they were when I left the first time, and I’ll be too glad to return to Germany permanently once my contract expires in another two years. It’s truly painful and disturbing to see these dumb tea party people fighting the president tooth and nail over health care, gun laws, immigration, and abortion. Europeans are sick with laughter from watching all the antics that began to unfold as soon as it was clear that then candidate Obama was about to achieve a clear victory over John McCain and Sarah Palin back in 2008. The tea party and the rest of the republicans are an absolute disgrace to humanity, and the dumb people who keep them alive and in power with their ignorance and racial hatred of the president are exemplary products of America’s poor education system, which is one of the worst in the entire world.

    • Steve Nelson

      You are a complete idiot and reveal yourself to be aiding in the cause of moral and social decline in the world.

    • Terrie Goodson Henderson

      I second what steve said you are a idiot and its that mindset that is in fact destroying America. Tea party and republicans aren’t racist. You are and your dumb Demwhit party . Who ever is bringing it up all the time and never stops talking about it keeps the fire of racism going you idiot!

  • Einstein

    Yes u are boring us to death. How astute of you, not, to waste time talking about things u obviously know nothing about.

    First of all, there is nothing wrong with having daddy and mommy pay for one’s education. Surely having 100k of debt is an attractive alternative? U think?

    This is why I say u should just shut up as u clearly know very little about what u are talking about.

    Next…You think this has to do with voting? Grow a brain. It does not matter who u vote for, are u really that naive?

    Finally, I have been to some of the 3rd world hell holes that u refer to. Mark my words. U r gonna find such hell holes preferable to our US of A. Its pretty clear that its time to get out of here.

    I think also what two of u failed to hear, is that she is saying even with an MBA and an IVY league education, they are not faring well. The point being, that things are way out of sorts. And wait for Obamacare to kick in and then it will really become apparent u should have gotten out sooner. This is just the beginning of a land in crisis. You have seen nothing yet. Get out before u cant leave. As that will be next.

    • Terra Magnum Imperium

      I came from a low income family and joined the military at 18, so when someone who had mommy & daddy pay there way though college makes snide comments I get a little defense but I am nowhere near as judgmental as you are…But I do agree the USA is going to hell in a hand basket and it’s time to consider an exit strategy .

      • lgcamp

        Even in the animal world, we don’t see diversity. Foxes don’t hole up with wolves. Snakes don’t nest with birds. And even different species of ants don’t colonize together. Pay attention to nature and emulate it. There is nothing wrong with voluntary segregation.

    • educatedandpissedoff

      Its “you”, not “u”. “Are” not “r”. This society is completely dumbing down. That is why I want out.

    • Veni Vidi Vici

      Einstein, Not !!! I know as an 18 year liberal you think you know everything, reality check you don’t…
      I have nothing against parents helping there children though college but when one these spoiled brats acts superior because I lack a degree I enjoy giving them a
      “real world education”…
      The reality is 70% of jobs do not require a degree and for many it’s a way to show some level of superiority. While the Liberal Arts grad begs for a 35000 a year customer service job 70000+ Electrician and Plumbing jobs go unfilled all because this myth of degree supremacy…

  • very true

  • Qualis Rex

    I just arrived at this site, and after reading through the comments (and responding to a couple) I’m hoping they NEVER leave their homes, let alone darken the door-step of any other country. I immigrated to the US as a child with my family, and as an adult have the privilege of working from home: which I do 1/2 of the time in the US and 1/2 of the time in my home country, located in the EU. 3 points I would like to make here: 1. the grass is always greener. If you leave any country because you despise someone/something you will most likely take that bad attitude with you wherever you go and end up just as miserable for other reasons. 2. Rather than focus on the reasons you are leaving, identify what you are seeking. Is it a stronger sense of morality/spirituality/religion? Is it a better cost of living? Is it a more open/welcoming/traditional social environment? 3. As has been said already, being American is not a viable skill-set. Professionally and educationally, whatever you are leaving with is all you can expect to bring; and if it is not a marketable skill for the location you have identified, then there is a reason you will not be granted a visa.

    I’m not going to guide anyone in any particular direction, because if someone really is motivated, they should be able to take points 2 and 3 and do their own homework here. It is absolutely possible to emmigrate from the US, and there are countless benefits AND drawbacks to doing so. Just try not to export your values, bad attitude and self-absorption to a society/culture/country that might not welcome it, because you will fail, be miserable, and most likely make those around you annoyed as well. There is NOTHING worse than being stuck around expats who begin every sentence with “Well in MY country…”

    • Mike Breen

      If you have only ever lived in one other country, it’s perfectly normal to make comparisons. Regardless, Americans are no longer free to leave the USA. Those ridiculed a few years back for saying “get out now while you still can” have been proven right. The US tax code and FATCA means the only way to leave the USA is to lose US nationality. Doing that is expensive both financially and emotionally. Other citizenships do not grow on trees, but you need one to renounce. It is no longer possible to live a normal life as an American outside of the USA. Nobody wants to be close to an American any more. Nobody marries one, let’s them bank, invest and nobody wants to go in to business with one. Well done Obama, you should pass on your wall building skills to Trump.

  • maria

    we live in costa rica and making a plantaion sustainable compound for expats maria at jcbranch dot com we need good neighbors and people who will contribute to the lifestyle

  • bebe68

    Communist, you really need to go join your people elsewhere. Thanks to many with faulty thought processes like yours, this is no longer a Capitalist country. Don’t you understand that the term “crony capitalist” is the politically correct term for corporatist/fascist? We are transitioning, thanks to statists like George Bush and Barack Obama, from a capitalist Democratic Republic to basically, a Communist state. My wish for you is that you find out EXACTLY what that entails. Hello police state.

    • Terra Magnum Imperium

      Wow, drinking your narcissistic kool-aide again and drunk on your own BS.

    • Veni Vidi Vici

      I was born here being retired I guess I could leave but not without a few parting shots
      The middle class is a serious problem, they settle for crumbs instead of reaching for the cake. For starters They vote the same 2 political parties time and time again allowing ideology to trump common sense so agreement and rational solutions become impossible.
      Haiti is an example of 3rd world HH…

  • CaliforniaMom

    I’ve lived in Los Angeles my entire life. I want out, not just from California but the entire United States. If it was just me I would have moved out of the country years ago, but I have two kids now. A recent statistic rating of California school systems showed that we are now ranked next to West Virginia schools. I cannot tell you how sad and pathetic this makes me feel as a parent. My oldest child is 13, she has maintained a 3.8 GPA but my youngest who is 7 is struggling through 1st grade. The teachers just don’t care and don’t want to get involved to provide extra help while he is at school. The educational system here is one of the main reasons I want to leave the country, I simply want a better chance for my kids to thrive, be able to go to college and have a career they are happy with. It sounds even more crazy and impossible saying that out loud right now. Where in the world can we go that will give my children the education and chances that they deserve? How are the public school systems in other parts of the world? Can someone offer any advice on that? I also feel like in America its a crushing paralyzing feeling every day when the kids leave for school and I worry myself sick about school shootings happening. Are there shootings in schools every week in other parts of the world like there are here? Any information/advice on the school safety in other parts of the world would be appreciated too.

  • MarkmBha

    Americans wishing to leave the US should move to Antartica !

  • Elizabeth

    I’m thirteen, turning fourteen this year……is it sad that I agree with all of this? I feel like me and my sister are the only people in our house that have brains. My mom and dad both voted for obama TWICE because he is black. Sigh :(. Hopefully it wont be to late to get out of here in 4 years!

  • Heleni Domasi


  • see

    Great post Bebe. I am glad you mentioned graduate school because I would like to do this myself.

  • Terrie Goodson Henderson

    Your a devil! Be gone!

    • Veni Vidi Vici

      Damn, I thought the hoodie hid my horns ^ ^

      • Terrie Goodson Henderson

        Well I don’t agree with you about the middle Class Cause its being pounded and not far from being lower class. The Middle Class is footing the bill. The rich are getting richer. The poor is well still getting their benefits. But I can say you do seem to have a sense of humor.

  • Carole

    What about Barbados in the Caribbean? I wonder if they are tough about letting people move there. I used to travel there when I worked for the airlines. Or perhaps another island?

  • Rick Moranis

    It sucks for those who moved to Australia, not knowing that it would become a bigger surveillance state than the United States.

  • david hickle

    how can i leave usa when i dont have enough money to leave it even though i really would love to become a cittizen of another place why the usa has failed and ruined my life by leaving me in pain for 28 to 30 years of my life and nothing can be done about it to help me to me thats abuse neglect neglance torcher conspiracy courption descrimonation terroney treason gennoside heirocy i will never trust usa ever again i will always hate usa until i die or permonettlly leave it

  • ghaud jon

    I want to leave the USA and just go on a life time adventure. Is that ok ?

  • Wheatley24

    There are times when I feel like moving over to the UK, since it sounds like such a fun place to live, especially since they are far more liberal, and people are far less religious. Heck, they even have legalized prostitution. I also hear that there are more rave clubs, something that is strangely unpopular in America, save for the electric daisy carnival :p.

    Sure, America isn’t too bad I guess, especially since the religious right is waning here. and I know a lot of people from the UK would want to live here because of Hollywood or whatever, but it really isn’t as awesome as they think it is. Hollywood is very fake, and plastic, and the city around it is just one big rat hole.

    England seems elegant, cheerful, and simple. Just the kind of place I would like to live.

  • FiscalConservativeSocialLib

    I searched for this article because of one horrible feeling I have about this country and then I read these ridiculous comments after the article, hoping to find some additional useful points….boy I should have known. Here are my feelings about the USA that I am so proud of yet so ashamed of at the same time. We’ve become a nation that does not hold people accountable. What I mean by that is the rich seem to make any rules that suit them and simply change them when necessary without any repercussions. And the poor, well we have generations of “Americans” who’s only job is to have another child, because the check gets bigger. Why I’ve stayed is because the majority of Americans don’t fall into either of those two camps, so there is hope, but what we get in Washington are reps who cater to those smaller groups. I’m so sick of the rich being above the law and the poor feeling entitled. As a financial advisor, I’ve adapted a saying with my clients to help clearly articulate what I feel is important for this nation to be great again…..”if you aren’t part of the solution, you are the problem”. We need to close every damn loophole in the tax code that benefits any one class of Americans more than another and put a limit both in the size of the monthly check and length of time someone can collect Welfare. Put those tax savings to work in lifting up the poor with a starting level education and we can watch this country thrive again. I think the military says, you are only as strong as your weakest link. Sorry welfare people, you are going to go to school and work (and maybe a job you think is beneath you), live on the street, or move somewhere else. 2 of the three benefit this country and the third is probably your last choice anyway. And all you rich people. First congratulations, you either were fortunate to be born to the right family, got a great opportunity whether deserved or not, or took risks, in any case you are “rich”. My wish is that you understand that God has given you an amazing life and while you don’t need to share it if you don’t choose to, please do not exploit it and feel you are entitled either. And for all of the hardworking American’s whether white collar or blue collar, you are part of the solution and please keep being that. you are the only reason I am still here……although watching Hillary seemingly escape jail time and Trump leading the GOP polls, makes me question my decision to stay.

  • sootheater .

    There are some seriously stupid comments in this article. Why the f**** would one move to a country with high taxes when the ENTIRE POINT of leaving the USA is to seek a country with an adult population that doesn’t rely on the government for everything?!

    I’m not working myself into an early grave so that ungrateful people who hate my guts can live large off my taxes!

  • Mike Breen

    It’s rather sad reading all these comments about just leaving. The government is ahead of you. There is now pretty much nowhere to hide. The USA has told the world to report your presence back to the USA or they will shut down that countries banking system. You will then be subject to a punitive reporting regime with life destroying fines should you fail to cross a T or dot an I. FATCA came in to force properly last year, signed in by Obama in 2010.

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