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How Is The Central Economic Planning That The Federal Reserve Does Different From The Central Economic Planning That Communist China Does?

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Most Americans believe that we still live in a capitalist system and that free markets primarily determine the growth and development of our economy.  But is that really the case?  No, sadly it is not.  The truth is that the U.S. Federal Reserve does a tremendous amount of central economic planning.  So what makes the central economic planning that the Federal Reserve does different from the central economic planning that communist China does?  Yes, in China it is the government that does the central planning and in the United States it is a private central bank that does the central planning, but other than that are there any huge differences?  And if our economy is centrally planned, then how can we continue to claim that we still have a free market capitalist system?

Certainly China goes into greater detail in their economic planning, but that does not mean that the economic planning that the Federal Reserve and the U.S. government do is not similar.

After all, free markets do not set interest rates in this country – the Federal Reserve does.

The Federal Reserve also determines what the money supply will be.

The Federal Reserve is the one that decides if inflation is too high or too low.

The Federal Reserve is the one that decides if unemployment is too high or too low.

In addition, the Federal Reserve has a tremendous amount of regulatory power over U.S. banks and the entire financial system.  Most Americans simply do not realize how much power the Federal Reserve has over our banks.  Just last year Federal Reserve officials walked into one bank in Oklahoma and demanded that they take down all the Bible verses and the Christmas buttons that the bank had been displaying.

Like the communist Chinese, the Federal Reserve is not elected and it is essentially accountable to nobody.

Like the communist Chinese, the Federal Reserve also picks winners and losers.  You see, not all financial institutions are treated equally by the Fed.  For example, some have access to the Fed’s discount window and others do not.

How is that fair?

Certainly the Federal Reserve does not do all of the central economic planning in this country.  The U.S. government loves to get involved in economic planning as well.  For example, the U.S. government has decided that there are certain types of light bulbs that we are allowed to buy and certain types of light bulbs that we are no longer going to be allowed to buy.  It doesn’t matter that the new light bulbs are far more dangerous to children or that most of us would still like to have the choice to buy the old light bulbs.

But getting back to the Federal Reserve, how “democratic” or how “capitalist” is it to have 12 unelected people sitting around a table deciding the economic direction of this country?

The truth is that we live in a system that simply does not trust free markets and that believes that our economy needs to be “managed”.

I have to admit that my thinking on these issues was stimulated when I recently read an excellent article by Vitaliy Katsenelson in which he asked the following question….

It is a fundamental tenant of American capitalism that central planning of economies doesn’t work in the long term, whether in Soviet Union historically or in China today. But I often wonder: How is the Fed’s Board of Governors – the proverbial 12 guys in a room – any different than the 24 guys in a room who make up the Chinese politburo?

Is Katsenelson not right about this?

How in the world is the Fed’s Board of Governors all that much different from the Chinese Politburo?

In both cases, a group of unelected elitists makes the major economic decisions for all the rest of us.

That certainly does not sound like “capitalism” to me.

Would the free markets really produce worse results for our economy than the Federal Reserve does?

Would America ever have gone through the Great Depression if the Federal Reserve had not been created in 1913?

Would we have experienced the financial crash of 2008 if the policies of Greenspan and Bernanke had not created tremendous bubbles in the financial system?

Would the U.S. dollar have lost over 95 percent of its value since 1913 if the Federal Reserve was not around to constantly inflate our currency?

Would the U.S. government have the largest debt in the history of the world if we were not using the debt-based monetary system imposed upon us by the elite international bankers?

Now that the total debt of the U.S. government is $14,228,193,126,138.72, it is getting really hard to deny that the federal government is drowning in debt.

Dallas Federal Reserve Bank President Richard Fisher unknowingly indicted the very system he serves when he recently made the following statement….

“If we continue down on the path on which the fiscal authorities put us, we will become insolvent, the question is when.”

If the Federal Reserve had never been created, and the U.S. government had been issuing debt-free currency all this time, it is entirely conceivable that we would have absolutely no federal government debt at this point.

But defenders of the Federal Reserve tell us that if not for the brilliant people over at the Fed, America would be an economic basket case by now.

Oh really?

In case anyone has not noticed, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke has a very long track record of incompetence.  Nearly every major judgment that he has made since taking over that position has been wrong.  If one of us could go down the street and appoint the manager of our local Dairy Queen as the Chairman of the Federal Reserve, it is very doubtful that person could do a worse job than Bernanke has done.

Unfortunately, most Americans do not understand this.  Most Americans are still convinced that “the greatest economy on earth” will just keep roaring along forever.  Most Americans are spending and partying as if everything is going to be just fine.

Sadly, as Richard Daughty recently pointed out, most Americans will not wake up and realize just how bad our economic problems really are until it is too late….

In fact, to use an analogy, the economy is like a group of overpaid people, milking the government for every dollar and benefit they can get, on a chartered airplane that has been certified as “unsafe,” where one minute everybody is having fun, drunk as skunks, laughing and telling dirty jokes, and the next minute the plane is plunging out of the sky, out of fuel, one wing is in flames, the engines are dead, the entire electrical system is kaput, and, worst of all, the beverage cart is completely empty of cold beer and those little bottles of different kinds of tasty liquors. Uh-oh!

Most Americans have become so “dumbed down” that they still won’t even understand what is happening even after the economy has collapsed.  Newsweek recently found that 63 percent of Americans do not know how many justices are on the Supreme Court and 29 percent of Americans cannot even name the current Vice-President.

America today is rapidly degenerating in many of the same ways that the Roman Empire once did.  Tens of millions of Americans are lazy, slothful and absolutely addicted to entertainment.  It is frightening to see just how many Americans did not show any empathy during the recent crisis in Japan or when we started launching missiles on Libya.  The following mini-documentary that was recently posted on YouTube does a beautiful job of making this point….

So is there any hope for America?

Let us hope that people wake up, because there are going to be even more economic disasters coming our way.  Right now a large percentage of the American people don’t even know enough to realize what the real problems are, much less what the solutions may be.

When most Americans talk about economics, they instantly start blaming “Obama” or “Bush” and a lot of them never even bring up the Federal Reserve.

But it is the Federal Reserve that has the most power over our economy.

If Americans want to blame someone in Washington D.C. for the economic mess that we are in, the number one culprit is the Federal Reserve.

Yes, Obama, Bush and virtually every member of Congress has played a role in our economic nightmare as well.  But it is the Federal Reserve that is actually “managing” our economy.

We would have been much better off if we had allowed free markets to “manage” our economy all this time, but very few Americans actually seem to still believe in free markets anymore.

  • Maria

    Exactly Right, E.C.B.!

    Of the hundred or so people that my husband and I know well enough to mention politics or religion, very few are preparing for an economic collapse…none of them to the degree we are.

    We got a late start and haven’t done half of what we need to.

    I hope people out there are having better success at waking up friends and neighbors than we are.

    America, we are in the 11th hour.

    Are you ready?

  • Phrygian cap, aka Michael2

    There have been people pointing out the contradictions and hypocrisy in America’s economic system since the Federal was established and before it. There is really is not much new here other than some of the statistics. There is also nothing new in the hating on the American people by the author and others in this article either. At least this is what the following segments sound like to me.

    “Unfortunately, most Americans do not understand this. Most Americans are still convinced that “the greatest economy on earth” will just keep roaring along forever. Most Americans are spending and partying as if everything is going to be just fine.

    Sadly, as Richard Daughty recently pointed out, most Americans will not wake up and realize just how bad our economic problems really are until it is too late….

    Most Americans have become so “dumbed down” that they still won’t even understand what is happening even after the economy has collapsed. Newsweek recently found that 63 percent of Americans do not know how many justices are on the Supreme Court and 29 percent of Americans cannot even name the current Vice-President.”

    For the coup de grace,

    “America today is rapidly degenerating in many of the same ways that the Roman Empire once did. Tens of millions of Americans are lazy, slothful and absolutely addicted to entertainment. It is frightening to see just how many Americans did not show any empathy during the recent crisis in Japan or when we started launching missiles on Libya. The following mini-documentary that was recently posted on YouTube does a beautiful job of making this point….”

    And to kick the dead horse the author adds,

    “If Americans want to blame someone in Washington D.C. for the economic mess that we are in, the number one culprit is the Federal Reserve.”

    As always I beg to differ with these observations of the American people. From my conversations and observations on the street level many people know we are headed into economic oblivion. Recent sky rocketing sales of gold/silver, guns/ammo, and survival gear would seem to confirm this at least to some degree. As well increasing populace unrest adds further confirmation in my humble opinion.

    Many people know we have an absolutely corrupt political, legislative/judicial and economic system. I think many Americans have acquiesced to the overwhelming force with which the economic situation is being forced upon us. After all in the following quote the author plainly supports this position without making any alternative conclusions or observations about the American people.

    “Would the U.S. government have the largest debt in the history of the world if we were not using the debt-based monetary system imposed upon us by the elite international bankers?”

    The words, “imposed upon us” are the key to really understanding the dilemma with which the American people are faced. I don’t think Americans are “dumbed down”. I think we have given up caring while the dark side has control. Most people feel like what is the use in caring. Nothing is going to change anyway. I myself have learned to relax and enjoy the ride while we spin around the drain. Why not party like its 1999, if we are going down, why not party on the way? It all feels like it’s all totally out of control anyway. There are so many things wrong, on so many levels, giving a damn just feels totally futile. It feels like human self annihilation is inevitable and fighting the tide only gets one ridiculed as a conspiracy theorist, tin foil hat looney or the dreaded, disgruntled citizen label. So why not eat, drink and be merry while there is time left to do it? This is why drug use is so high too, people are just getting numb and oblivious to how grim it all seems.

    Just in case the world has forgot, Americans are people too. Piling on people who are already going down does not help at all. Instead of lazy, maybe Americans are exhausted, ever think of that? Also in case the world has forgotten Americans have built a nation that most of the world envies, wants to be like or to live in. I suppose that was all easy work and the sacrifice of blood, sweat, tears that went into making this country what it is are common and indefatigable. Maybe America would be better too if all those who do not like Americans or America just left.

    As far as our response to the Japanese crisis, could this have something to do with how the Japanese act towards others? Many Japanese are arrogantly ethnocentric, xenophobic, elitist and have been indifferent towards others when they are suffering hardships too. I have found in this world, you get what you give.

    When the American people get to taking names and kicking asses we’ll see who is lazy and slothful then. I still have faith and hope!!

    Ps. Censorship is not the hallmark of a free society either the last I heard. . .

  • Sure all those folk are responsible for this mess, but lets put part of the blame where it belongs, on the heads of the citizens of this nation.

    For generations the citizens of this nation have sit on their collective butts and let Washington and their state politicians do whatever they wanted, whenever they wanted and very few ever bothered to stand up and give a resounding HELL NO! to anything they did.

    That is what we have to do now. We have to teach our federal and state governments to respect the citizens they represent again.

    When a nation declares the founder of the Liberty Dollar an economic terrorist and yet allows the Fed to do QE1,QE2, and perhaps QE3 and call it critical financial intervention, its time for a serious wakeup call for both citizens and government.

    Inflation and loss of quality of life is UNACCEPTABLE to people in this country. Get used to it or be thrown out of office.

  • Kevin

    You can’t store a decades worth of food and even if you did you couldn’t protect it. Own a small farm and be in the maybe 5% of the US population that can do so: Well you can’t fight off the other 95%.

    If it gets that bad the entire world will be in kayos. What civilized nation are you going to move to? What nation do you store your assets in? Who thinks the “Rule of Law” regarding possession of anything would be upheld?

    If the worst happens the US Military is rendered incapable. Many would rejoice until they realize the cop is no longer on duty and if a new cop takes their place rest assured it would be no blessing.

    Yes have some precious metal, yes have some extra food (no brainer for any emergency) . By all means live now. All of this is an interesting academic exercise; no more no less.

  • me

    Not enough people care enough to actually learn what the Federal Reserve is about. So most Americans will never know its effects. It’s a sad situation.

  • ConcernedJ

    As a person that’s been hit with financial crisis recently, I sense your frustration….. The youth are more doomed than ever. They are entertained 24/7 with endless hours of the new COD, channels with 24 hour viewing times. Much love for these articles, but it is too late. Ignorant fools will only learn through hard, painful experience.

  • Actually it’s quite simple — in China, the Party hacks and politicians run the government, which owns the factories and corporations. In the US, the corporations that own the factories also run the government by owning all the politicians and the hacks of both major parties. The Fed is controlled by the financial corporations, which is why the people who created this situation are not in jail.

    Welcome to the Standard Cyberpunk Future in which elections are a sham and the elected government just window-dressing for the manipulations of the megacorporate executive elite who are accountable to no one except the shareholders.

  • Mr Carpenter


    Best yet, get right with Jesus Christ, who will be coming very soon. VERY soon.

    From Wesley Smith’s email blast (sent to me by my Aunt this morning):


    What Does the Future Hold?

    Many people are confused and feel very concerned about the future.

    Some even feel hopeless!

    U.S. Border Guards are being murdered by illegal Mexicans.

    Some people feel as though our nation is slowly being destroyed.

    Rioting, even in our own country, is increasing. Violence and bloodshed almost seems “normal” now.

    Radical Muslims are attempting to force Sharia Law upon us.

    Earthquakes are increasing in intensity and frequency.

    And now we are being told by FEMA that there will soon be a food shortage of such magnitude that it will even affect America. Food prices are already skyrocketing.

    And what about our children and grandchildren?

    Worry! Worry! Worry!

    This is the exact opposite of what Jesus told us to do during these last days. He told us not to worry! He said, “Don’t let your hearts be troubled.”

    He told us there would be “Birth Pains” just before he returns.

    He even told us what these birth pains would be (Mt. 24).

    Every one of these “pains” is upon us!

    Israel is surrounded by enemies.

    Even Russia is joining in and has a huge nuclear naval base on the Mediterrean—in Tartous, Syria. And last month Iran sent two of its war ships to its new port in Syria.

    So “The Bear” is in place, less than 150 miles from Israel’s border—just like the Bible predicted.

    Many Americans do not even know that Syria is located on the Med Sea.

    Look at a map and get clued in.

    Go to Google Earth and look at the Russian port.
    O.K., so now that we have this established, what’s next?

    America is placing demands on the Israelis to stop building homes in the West Bank.

    Try to imagine what we would do if another country told us we could not build any more homes in California or Arizona.

    The United Nations is against Israel and it is exerting tremendous pressure to make Israel even smaller.

    Do you realize that at one point Israel is only eight miles wide?

    But most of the world wants Israel to become even smaller.

    Actually, the world, just like Hitler, wants the Jews to cease to exist!

    But this is not going to happen. The Jewish people just happen to be God’s chosen people. This is why the Devil is raging with such jealousy throughout the Arab states.

    He wants to destroy every Jewish person on this planet.

    No matter how gloomy it might appear, there is not a chance in hell this will happen. God will soon step from the clouds and destroy every one of Israel’s enemies with his unlimited power.

    Personally, I can’t wait!

    Egypt, Lybia, Syria, . . .

    God says, “I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle” (Zech. 14:1-2).

    Israel will have no option but to use nuclear weapons when the 20 Muslim nations attack. Ezekiel 29:10-12 predicts that Egypt will not be inhabited for 40 years after it is laid waste (probably by a nuclear attack).

    Isaiah 19:15 tells of a time when there will be no work for the Egyptians. Even now the average Egyptian only makes $100 per month. And food is so scarce and high-priced that it takes $60 a month for the average family to eat!

    Eighty million people live in Egypt, and most of the country is desert, with only a half inch of rainfall per year. So most of the inhabitants live within two miles of the Nile River.

    In light of the fact that the Muslim Brotherhood will most likely rule Egypt, Israel has closed its embassy in Cairo. Jews will no longer be safe there.

    This portends a time when the Egyptians will once again sponsor suicide bombers and cooperate with Syria, Jordan, and Lebanon in attacking the Israelis. Israel is an embarrassment to every Muslim nation as she dwells and prospers in their midst.

    Did you know that the Egyptians are the descendants of Esau? And I’m sure that you know that Jacob and Esau were far from friends. At one time Esau was so jealous of Jacob that he planned to kill him (Ge. 26:34; 27:41).

    That jealousy has come down through the blood line!

    Our president is so clueless that he has appointed Rashad Hussain as Special Envoy of the White House. This man is a “hafiz”, which means that he has memorized the Koran!

    More Muslims are in the White House during Barrack Hussein Obama’s presidency than at any time in history. Have you ever wondered why he refuses to attend the annual National Day of Prayer of the Christians, but always is very eager to remove his shoes, kneel on a prayer carpet, and worship with the worshipers of Allah?

    A Christian recently told me that when Jesus returns he will come hand-in-hand with Allah. One minor problem with this concept: Allah does not even exist!

    Will we ever have anyone in Washington who will stop all funding for the United Nations?

    Our tax dollars, to the tune of $3 billion each year, goes to this fraudulent organization.

    In foreign countries where I often travel, the local people call the United Nation workers “UN”, or, to make it more clear, “UHN”.

    I asked the people why they call the U.N. “The UHN” and they said because they don’t do anything.

    But each U.N. worker receives a minimum of $60,000 per year. That’s not a bad salary, plus room, board, and transportation. They do nothing besides ride around in one hundred thousand dollar vehicles.

    God says that he will bring the nations of the world against tiny Israel. This is what he is doing at this present time.

    Then he (YHWH tseba’oth, Lord of Heaven’s Armies) will go out and personally fight against those nations.

    If this makes you eager to learn more, go to my website, . There you will find an extensive study on this subject.

    Yes, Jesus is coming soon, and the stage is being set by God himself.

    The nations of the world are like pieces on a chess board. God is positioning them and he is about to checkmate Satan.

    We will all see this take place!

    It will be glorious!

    And all the nations of the earth will know the Lord.

    In order to fully understand these passages, you must know something about Bozrah and Petra.

    Isaiah 63:1-6; Habakkuk 3:1-18; Isaiah 34:5-6; and Song of Songs chapter 3.

    After you study these passages you will understand the significance of Rev. 14:20. It is 180 miles from Haifa to Petra!

    Megiddo gave its name to the area where the armies opposing God’s people will assemble.

    Megiddo literally means “place of crowds”. It is said that more blood has been shed in this area than any other spot on earth.

    This valley (from Haifa to the Jordan River, and then south to Petra) will be the site of an epic battle foretold in Scripture.

    It will be very “crowded” when God brings the armies of the world there.

    Thutmose III said, “Megiddo is worth a thousand cities.”

    Today Megiddo is a vast plain about 15 miles wide. There is even a McDonalds there. Mt. Megiddo is actually a small hill. It is easy to imagine the sign: “Billions Sold”.

    Bozrah is modern Busaira, Jordan.

    Petra is nearby, but it is only large enough to hold about 1,000 people. Some Bible scholars think the Jews will flee to both Petra and Busaira.

    I have a Jewish friend living in Jerusalem who actually believes that God has called him to lead his people to Petra. He leads tourists to Petra and has already been there more than 300 times on “practice runs” in preparation for the “Big One.”

    However, as all these details play out, three things are for sure: 1. Jesus will return. 2. He will take over planet earth. 3. He will reign as King of Kings and Lord of Lords.

    Each of us needs to make sure we are on his team.

    Signs are everywhere and The Day is fast approaching. The main thing is that we should be ready for his coming. And we should also be about our Father’s business!

    We are now receiving telephone calls and emails from all over the world from folks who are reading my writings on the internet. Never have we lived in a time when we are able to influence so many people with such ease.

    We are literally “Reaching Out to the World”. This has been the theme of Full Life Crusade for more than 46 years.

    Thank you so much for your generous support, both spiritually and financially. I cannot thank you enough for believing in what we are doing and standing with us.

    Printing Bibles in China, visiting orphans and widows, helping the poor, supporting indigenous pastors, and preaching the gospel to the nations . . . these are all ways we are reaching our generation.

    May God richly bless you for helping us to tell the wonderful news about Jesus.

    In His Service,

    Wesley Smith

  • If the general public was not so much in fear of their jobs, paycheck or if they will be able to survive one more week then maybe they could take the time to injest your preparedness issues. But that is not the case. They are in survival mode and too scared to look outside of their coocoon. That creates more fear and it is easier to ignore it.

  • Rick

    When you say we are going to collapse what do you mean? What do you foresee happening to our country? What would happen if we become insolvent?

  • DownWithLibs

    Kudos! Mr. Carpenter!!!!

    Yes, the Trumpet will sound VERY soon. See you on the other side!!! 😉

  • John L Smith

    The federal reserve was established to measure and react to the overall banking system. In as much as gold was the standard monetary control at the time, maintaining a gold reserve, and requiring properly valued collateral on loans was critical. The oligarchs who set up the fed were concerned with voters voting themselves a living. The fed has evolved over time into what it is today as the result of popular opinion on the fed’s “true” role. The perceived “true role” to maintain full employment and loose lending standards is what has screwed up our economy. The “rescue” of the banks in 2008 was simply the result of the oligarchs forcing the public to pay for the cost of the “free loaders” that congress voted into the system such as no money down mortgages, etc. The rich don’t mind paying a fair share of taxes, but they always protect the system so they don’t get screwed.

  • Well, the obvious difference is that the Politboro makes its plans to better to benefit China, while out guys are global elitists.

    As for that “central tenet” guy bloviating about “central planning never works in the long run”, does anyone really believe that anymore? You might think China’s rise from feudalism to No. 2 world economy would end that talk, but I guess [1] no one “really” is “untainted” by central planning, so it doesn’t count to compare them, and [2] the “long run” isn’t up yet. Of course, that just shows that “free market” talk is just untestable, ahistorical ideology, useful to fool people into selling out to the global elite and local gangsters [Post-shock Russia and USA vs. China].

  • Thank you for another great article!!! The TRUTH will set you free!!! My friends, the evil forces around the world are firmly taking control!! Get prepared today spiritually and physically!!! The Reality video is excellent, just hope that people will wake up before it’s too late!!! For valuable information on a spiritual basis, go to this site There are over 200 free Bible studies that will firmly prepare you for what’s ahead for planet Earth.

  • Gary2

    We need to centrally plan to tax the rich HARD and spread the wealth.

  • Economist

    The difference is China has all the money & the USA is broke.

  • Progressive Ed

    Didn’t Obama put hundreds of Billions of “stimulus $$$” directly into the pension funds of the Public Employee Unions?

  • impeachRonPaul

    The bible crowd is the worst. Pure evil people. You are like parasites hoping for the worst so you can advance your religous agenda and take away freedom.

  • jim

    Did you know the Federal Government is spending an equuvelant of 2,6 KG GOLD per Second!!!

  • The Unicorn
  • I’d be very surprised if the gov’t imposed austerity measures. Given today’s global economic conditions and changes in currency, they’ll be hot and cold most of the time.

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  • Great post, I linked it to my banking page. Some thoughtful responses too. One thing almost anyone can do to prepare for economic and social meltdown is to get in shape physically. It will take stamina to survive when things get bad. Start training, even walking and lifting dumbbells (or anything of appropriate weight) at home.

  • America Socialist Failure

    Brilliant insightful article. The question now is if people are going to do anything about it. Knowing Americans, probably not. Take care and prepare. The socialists have sabotaged your country and robbed you blind..

  • faithsaves

    It seems to me Americans are ignorant and in total denial. None of the people i talk to think anything is about to happen or they do
    but in a very sureal sense where they have not
    chose to prepare for the coming riots, food shortages and general disaster scenario. So
    when it does, there will be that many more people on the streets rioting, scurrying for food and trying to pillage those that do have food, water, guns, ammo or fuel. I believe that the reason why congress has shut the doors to government are 2 fold: Either they are making their final preporations for the coming calamities or they are hunkering down for the end and i hope its not the latter cause i am still not ready spiritually. I thought i was but every time i read something
    that assures me that my theories were all correct i have a panic attack. I suppose there is no real way to prepare for this especially
    for those people living in the tri state area
    with its almost 20 million people. I would like to say that i am sorry for not paying more attention, for making alot of bad decisions, for not trying to stop this from happening when i found out about it and for not being more dilligent in informing those i love of what is coming and making them prepare!
    Also i’m sorry to all i have wronged, lied to,
    cheated on, and hurt emotionally or physically.
    To clear my conscience I will do nothing to try and survive this when it comes. this will be the price i will pay for my complacency, sloth, envy and pride. I just hope the lord will not let me suffer too much and my death
    will be quick. Good luck to all the rest of you in your futile efforts. Who knows maybe it wont happen as fast as i think it will and people will not panic.
    May The Lord bless you and keep you.

    May the Lord make his face to shine upon you, and be gracious to you.

    May the Lord lift up his countenance upon you, and give you peace.

  • why do liberals not understand free markets and understand we don’t have free markets we have corporatism threw Keynesian economic where the government gives bailout and cheap capital and favors to is corporate buddies squashing competition

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