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Is It “Anti-Faith” To Prepare For The Coming Economic Collapse?

PreppersDoes being a prepper show a lack of faith in God?  Should good Christians reject prepping altogether?  Yesterday, someone actually accused me of being “anti-faith” because I am encouraging people to prepare for the coming economic collapse.  This person believes that if I had faith, then I would make “no provision” for what is ahead and simply trust “in God’s providence alone”.  So is that person right?  Is it really “anti-faith” to prepare for the coming economic collapse?  I spent quite a bit of time thinking about these questions today.

Those that visit my site on a regular basis know that I am a Christian and I am very open about that fact.  I am someone that places a very high value on faith.  The Scriptures tell us to “trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding”.  Without God, none of us has any hope.  In fact, without God I would probably be dead by now.

But faith is not about sitting on your couch and waiting for God to do everything for you.  Rather, faith is about taking action on what God has directed you to do.

What I don’t understand is why any of these Christians that are 100% against prepping continue to go to work.  If we are to make “no provision” for ourselves and simply trust “in God’s providence alone”, then why do they need to earn a paycheck?  Why can’t they just sit home and wait for God to fill up their bank accounts?

Yes, God can do mind blowing supernatural things that require absolutely no participation on our part.  I know, because it has happened to me.  But the vast majority of the time, God works with us.  He requires us to take steps of faith and obedience, and in the process He leads us, He guides us, He blesses us and He opens doors for us.

The story of Noah is a perfect example of this.  He was perhaps the very first “prepper”.  God could have kept Noah and his family safe from the flood by transporting them to some sort of very comfortable “heavenly waiting area” and brought them back when everything was dry, but He didn’t do that.  Instead, God warned Noah about what was coming and ordered him to build a boat.

So did Noah just sit back and wait for God to do everything for Him?  No, he exercised his faith by taking action.  He believed the warning and he built a giant boat.  In Hebrews 11:7, Noah is commended for his radical faith which produced radical action…

By faith Noah, when warned about things not yet seen, in holy fear built an ark to save his family. By his faith he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness that is in keeping with faith.

Faith almost always involves action.  God wants to see if we are going to believe Him and do what He has instructed us to do.

And the amount of faith that Noah exhibited was staggering.  The boat that he and his family built was approximately the size of a World War II aircraft carrier.  It took a very, very long time to build that boat and collect all of the food and supplies for his family and for all of the animals.

And surely Noah must have gotten very tired of all of the mocking as he warned everyone else about what was coming for decades.

But in the end, Noah’s prepping paid off.  He and his family were saved, and everyone else drowned.

Unfortunately, there are lots of Christians out there today that are 100% against preparing for what is ahead, even though they will admit that an economic collapse is coming.

The individual that accused me of being “anti-faith” is an example of this.  The following is an excerpt from the message that this person wrote to me…

Now, although I agree with you about the things you write about the corruption of the financial system, and that there will be a collapse, yet I do not agree with you in promoting people to be self-sufficient contrary to the Lord’s teaching. If you truly have God then no provision needs to be made at all for yourself, just trust in God’s providence alone.

This individual agrees that a collapse is coming, but insists that we should do absolutely nothing to prepare for it.

Is that really what God would have us do?

In Genesis 41, God revealed to Joseph that there would be seven good years followed by seven lean years.  So did Joseph party for seven years and “trust in God’s providence alone” for the lean years?

No, Joseph engaged in an “emergency food storage project” unlike anything that the world had ever seen up until that point.  By heeding God’s warning and taking action, he ended up saving the nation of Egypt and his entire family.

Some people believe that preparing for hard times means that you are “fearful”, but I don’t see it that way at all.

Rather, I believe that there is hope in understanding what is happening and that there is hope in getting prepared.

The people that stick their heads in the sand right now are going to get blindsided by what is coming.  Many of them will totally give in to despair when they realize that they have lost everything.

I think that we would all benefit greatly by taking advantage of the wisdom found in Proverbs 6:6-11…

Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores its provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest.

How long will you lie there, you sluggard? When will you get up from your sleep? A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest— and poverty will come on you like a thief and scarcity like an armed man.

You don’t prepare when the storm hits.  Rather, you prepare while the storm is still off in the distance.

Throughout the Scriptures, those that “prepare” are commended.

For example, just check out the following parable of Jesus that we find in Matthew 25

“At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. Five of them were foolish and five were wise. The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them. The wise ones, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps. The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep.

“At midnight the cry rang out: ‘Here’s the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!’

“Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps. 8 The foolish ones said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.’

“‘No,’ they replied, ‘there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.’

“But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut.

“Later the others also came. ‘Lord, Lord,’ they said, ‘open the door for us!’

“But he replied, ‘Truly I tell you, I don’t know you.’

“Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour.

Do we want to be like the wise virgins or the foolish virgins?

Yes, we never want to become obsessed with material things.  We need to keep our priorities in order and focus on the things that are really important.

But that doesn’t mean that we can all just sit on our couches, eat chips, and wait for God to do everything for us.

In my opinion, we have been warned about the coming economic collapse in a multitude of different ways.  At this point, what is coming should be glaringly obvious to anyone with half a brain.

On my site, I have shared thousands upon thousands of facts and statistics that show that a horrific economic collapse is coming.  If you are new to all of this, the following are just a couple of articles that can get you started…

-“40 Statistics About The Fall Of The U.S. Economy That Are Almost Too Crazy To Believe

-“Show This To Anyone That Believes That Things Are Getting Better In America

I am trying to do my best to warn people about what is coming from my little spot on the wall.  In the Scriptures, those that are aware that a threat is coming are responsible for warning others about it.  The following is a short excerpt from Ezekiel 33

Son of man, speak to your people and say to them: ‘When I bring the sword against a land, and the people of the land choose one of their men and make him their watchman, and he sees the sword coming against the land and blows the trumpet to warn the people, then if anyone hears the trumpet but does not heed the warning and the sword comes and takes their life, their blood will be on their own head. Since they heard the sound of the trumpet but did not heed the warning, their blood will be on their own head. If they had heeded the warning, they would have saved themselves. But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet to warn the people and the sword comes and takes someone’s life, that person’s life will be taken because of their sin, but I will hold the watchman accountable for their blood.’

Are you a watchman on the wall?

Are you blowing your trumpet?

That is one of the reasons why I work so hard on my articles.  I hope that people will use them as a tool to help warn others about what is coming.

My goal is never to create fear.  Rather, my goal is to wake people up and give them hope.

Yes, very, very painful economic times are coming.

Those that heed the warnings and diligently prepare will have a good chance of weathering the coming storm.

I honestly don’t know what those that have made absolutely no preparations are going to do.

  • MichaelfromTheEconomicCollapse

    Yes, I know that a lot of people that are not Christians come to this site.

    In this article I was addressing the objection of a Christian that was confronting me as a fellow Christian.

    Most preppers happen to be Christians. If you don’t like articles that mention God or Christians then just skip this one. This is an important discussion that the Christian community needs to have, and I am a Christian.

    I am certainly not going to apologize for being a Christian. In fact, I am extremely proud of my heavenly Father. If you do now know Him yet, I hope that you will soon.

    Michael

    • CRAT

      Michael:

      Thanks for your work. I always look forward to your articles. Is that a picture of your pantry?

      • MichaelfromTheEconomicCollapse

        Thank you CRAT. :)

        Not a picture of my pantry. I wouldn’t eat Spam. :)

        Michael

        • John

          MichaelIf things get as bad as you say they will be, then there may come a time when you will be more than happy to eat spam.

        • Steve

          Ate spam yesterday Michael. Don’t know what is in it and don’t really want to know but it was good fried in a pan with some mustard. To each his own I guess. My neighbor is in shock that I eat peanut butter but I do it without much thought a spoonful at a time. Yum

          • Gay Veteran

            spam is processed ham

          • marcuserious

            SPAM is pork… every part of the pig is included with one exception… the squeal.

        • JayJay

          Hey, watch it!! I have lots of spam! :-)

          • gfmucci

            I LOVE Spam. Brings back great childhood school lunch memories.

          • KJC

            Someday you may be rich! Maybe worth more than Gold!

        • Mondobeyondo

          Spam… ewww. What’s in that stuff? Hamburger mixed with motor oil?

          • DownWithLibs

            Nice to see you posting again. And, yes, Rock On Spam!!!!

        • Joseph Michael

          Spam is great with scrambled eggs, rice, whole garlic and soy sauce mixed in. Corned Beef is fantastic cooked with lots of whole garlic and chopped cooked potatoes mixed in with rice and soy sauce. 8-) Be Rapture Ready!!! ThereisProof d o c m

      • SK Turner

        Koreans think Spam is a delicacy. He said when he was stationed in Korea during the 90s that the Army had to ration Spam as the Korean wives would buy it and sell it on the black market or to their families.

    • Rodster

      Personally, I would not want to be part of any organized religion that purposely put you in a bad spot. OK here’s one, they forget to mention that by YOU prepping you can help out your fellow Christians who might need food etc.

      I bet you NOT one of those Christians would walk away and not prepare their home if they knew a hurricane or some other natural disaster was heading their way.

      • http://lastdayrapture.blogspot.com/2011/08/jesus-said-at-last-day.html TK

        Rodster, I agree with you about organized religion, and here is why:

        “Pre-Trib Rapture”

        This is taught by many of these 501C3 tax exempt “churches” and it couldn’t be further from the truth.

        As
        a matter of fact, believing in the lie of the pre-trib rapture is why
        so many Christians do not, or are not, preparing for what is plainly
        coming down the road for America. They believe falsley that “Christians”
        will be whisped away before it gets too bad.

        Jesus told us 4X that the rapture would take place on the last day.

        • Rodster

          Well said !

        • Little Cessna

          I’m curious what Scripture points to that. I don’t know if the Lord will rescue His people before the beast is revealed or after, and do they go through the 3 1/2 years of tribulation?

          • http://lastdayrapture.blogspot.com/2011/08/jesus-said-at-last-day.html TK

            At Guest:

            The “Rapture” is tied in with the “1st Resurection” (when the dead in Christ will rise with those who are alive and remain) as shown by the scripture’s below.

            Revalations talks about the 1st resurection in chapter 20 versus 4-6. It also talks about Christians who were beheaded because they did not want to take the mark of the beast.

            To answer your question, yes Christians will have to face the beast, which is why the teaching of the “Pre-Trib Rapture” is so dangerous.

            1st Thessalonians 4:16-18
            For
            the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice
            of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ
            shall rise first.

            Then we which are alive [and]
            remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the
            Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

            Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

        • samsyd

          Actually “Pre-Tribbers” do not believe that God will whisk them away before things get too bad. They believe that they will be whisked away before the GREAT TRIBULATION. That’s a whole different story than what you have said because Christians have suffered at times extreme persecution unto death but no one has suffered through the GREAT TRIBULATION or the time of JACOB’s trouble because that hasn’t come upon planet earth. Jesus and all the prophets taught that time was about to come upon Israel and the earth but as Paul taught that time has been put off during this Dispensation of Grace that God brought in through the Apostle to the Gentiles, Paul. That time will come but only when Jesus is about to come back to set up His kingdom on earth. Until that time we are supposed to follow the teachings and doctrines of the Apostle Paul and Paul certainly taught a PRE TRIB Rapture or snatching away of the Church,The Body of Christ. Corinthians and Thessalonians teach this doctrine and it was not even in any of the 4 Gospels or Kingdom teachings. It was hidden in Christ before the foundation of the world and disclosed through Paul’s teachings. So again Paul teaches us to prepare for the worst and provide for our families and loved ones (1Tim5:8) and that only makes sense to do whatever we can do to be able to survive and to give hope to a lost world on a one to one basis so that people may be saved by God’s Grace through Faith (not good works lest any man should boast). Noah was a just man who was also saved by God’s grace and faith but he had to prepare an ark for his salvation and that salvation was promised to him with the proviso that he built the ark. We are promised eternal salvation of our souls, spirit and eventually our bodies on the promise of God’s Word. We accept that truth by faith and that deal is sealed by the Holy Spirit. But..that salvation doesn’t mean that we are saved through hard times down here. We must do what we can to help ourselves and others as we can while we can. The Kingdom promises to the Jewish remnant (followers of Jesus while He was on earth) are not promises to us Gentiles (and Jews during this Dispensation of Grace as there is no difference spiritually speaking and Paul says this) and we have to be careful not to apply God’s promises to the Jewish nation and His followers in the flesh, to this Dispensation of believers who live by faith in God’s Word not signs and wonders as they did in the past.

          • jaxon64

            accurate..although I suspect that the original poster–TK–will not reply or reply with such an informative post-after all, he made a big point about tax status for some reason ( eye roll here)

          • http://lastdayrapture.blogspot.com/2011/08/jesus-said-at-last-day.html TK

            jaxon64——-

            There are many good people who are tied in with a 501C3 corporation acting as a church. It is a shame, but true.

            Most of these corporations run like a buisness, and that is where the church has eered from the truth.

            Most of these corporations teach bad doctrines, such as:

            1) Pre-Trip Rapture

            2) Tithing (tithing is not for the new testamant Christian, and when it was practiced in the old testament, they used food)

            3) Carnality (adopting the worlds standards of dress, speach, music, and money)

          • http://lastdayrapture.blogspot.com/2011/08/jesus-said-at-last-day.html TK

            samsyd——

            You don’t have to use paragraphs when typing. Paragraphs are only for those who have made it through highschool english classes ;)

            ;)

            Anyhow, it is very clear where you are coming from. You hold up the teaching of men (Scofield) over the clear Word of God. Here is a classic expample:

            You believe that Jews and Christians are different, and that we should only follow the teaching of Paul, and not Jesus.

            I am going to post 2 passages of scripture which prove beyond a shodow of a doubt that you are spreading lies and heresy:

            Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter, whose praise is not of men, but of God.

            Galatians 3:28-29 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

            As you can see by the clear word of God, we are the seed of Abraham.

            I used to believe like you did samsyd, but thankfully, I repented of my pride, and threw away my “scofield” notes. I pray that you will do the same.

            Later,
            TK

        • ort

          Wrong. Paul taught pre trib. Go to http://www.raptureready.com and look it up. I do not know how to post links. Also http://www.gracethrufaith.com (jack Kelly)

          Tread lightly, for you are teaching falsely.

          • http://lastdayrapture.blogspot.com/2011/08/jesus-said-at-last-day.html TK

            Oh ort———

            When you read the letters that John wrote to the Churches in Revelations, it is very clear that several of those Churches were falling away from the truth very quickly, and those Churches needed rebuking.

            Now fast forward a couple of thousand years, and take a good look at the Churches of the US.

            Step back and take a hard look at your church, the one you attend on a weekly basis.

            Do you seriously think that everything that comes out of the pulpit is correct?

            Do you?

            Are you thinking about this?

            Or is it too late for you?

            Are you so deceived that there is no turning back?

            ort——– you remind me of the Pharisees that were around in Jesus time, they were so busy “knowing” they were right, that they missed the boat completely.

            Don’t let this happen to you.

      • Hammerstrike

        Is non-organized religion any better? Nope.

    • Syrin

      The Mormons preach as PART of their religion to prepare. I know several Mormons, and all have confirmed this. So no, it is not anti-faith to believe we should take care of ourselves and our families. If you saw your loved one in a street, and a car barreling down on them, would it be anti-faith to push them out of the way of the car? It’s a stupid argument at its very core.

      Plus, why did God give me a brain and reasoning ability to see what’s coming, and the means to prepare if I am supposed to do nothing about it? Wouldn’t that be a waste of his blessings? Again, a STUPID argument at its core.

      • mleblanc138

        Indeed, which is why I think Utah County Utah is going to be one of the best places to be during the collapse. As a bonus, tons of people don’t want to move here because of the “crazy” Mormons, of which I am one.

        • monsterdog

          Crazy like foxes, maybe. I’m not a Mormon, but I certainly admire the results of their faith and way of life. I got to know them through some LDS troops that came through when I was working at a Boy Scout camp…as a general (but not absolute) rule, the LDS scouts were far more respectful and likeable than the average. That was in the late 80s, and I would guess it’s about the same today. Certainly your views on preparedness make far more sense than what the MSM would have us believe. “Doomsday Preppers” indeed.

      • JustanOguy

        Yep… I’ve been in the homes of several Mormon families that are prepped and ready.

      • jaxon64

        I don’t want to get started in a long discourse on this however I felt it was important to inform you that Mormonism is not even close to being Christian. In fact, Mormonism is a polytheistic belief system which has Jesus and Lucifer as brothers, Elohim the father lives on saturn–jesus lives on the moon, elohim physically came to earth and impregnated Mary–among other strange beliefs ( the least of which is that good mormons will eventually become gods and get to seed their own planets–a lot more like scientology than christianity) Just thought you’d like to know–for what it’s worth…
        Not all who profess the name of Jesus are Christian but have a different god than the God of the Bible…

        • Graham

          This sounds very reminiscent of what the “Brotherhood of the Snake” is all about.

          • Rosie Nanette Gagnon

            Sadly, Jaxon has misrepresented some of our beliefs…just as if he had implied that Catholics are cannibals for believing the Eucharistic and the transformation into the actual blood and body of Christ. Without a proper understanding of a religious belief taken into context, it is very easy and not necessarily honest, to twist their beliefs in an attempt to make them look bad. The LDS church believes that Jesus christ is the literal son of God, and that through his atoning sacrifice, and only through our complete belief and devotion to him and acceptance of Him as our Savior, can we be saved…tell me how that is not Christian? Many of the other ‘unusual beliefs’ are a simply a matter of an interpretation of scripture that is different than yours, ie: our believing we can, as stated bibilically, be “joint heirs” with Christ…(ie: our pusuing potential for Godhood, like a son follows in the footsteps of his father…? ) What else is the meaning of a joint heir? Your church’s definition is really no better than ours…just your perspective is different
            .

        • Syrin

          Not saying you’re wrong, but that’s all new to me. Regardless, they behave in their DAILY LIVES (where it counts) in a more Christian manner than almost all self proclaimed Christians I know.

        • gfmucci

          Mormonism would more accurately be referred to as “not orthodox” Christian. Most Christian denominations today, especially the mainline churches, are so apostately unorthodox that they make Mormons look mainstream, at least the mainstream of 50 or 100 years ago. But today most “Christian” churches are hardly recognizable as Christian in the sense of what the church was 50 or 100 years ago.
          Why are there literally 1000’s of Christian denominations? Because they felt a need to separate from the “orthodox” Church, whether from the mother Catholic Church, or from the quickly liberalizing Methodist, Episcopal, Lutheran, or Presbyterian “orthodox” church. It is disingenuous to call Mormons “not Christian” in view of the apostasy going on today in the “orthodox” churches. Bottom line: some churches are more orthodox than others. It does not necessarily make them “not Christian.” And calling a church “orthodox” does not necessarily maintain the doctrinal purity of the original churches, either.

        • monsterdog

          My main rule of thumb in such matters is to never pay any attention whatsoever to a description of a faith volunteered by someone who is not of that faith. ESPECIALLY if they feel it important to inform you about that faith.

        • Hammerstrike

          Why did yaya need Mary to birth Josuah?

    • cannuck21

      Amen

    • MeMadMax

      You know what, me and my wife had a conversation about this a month ago. The condensed version goes like this: I tell my wife we need to store up food, water, gas and buy a boat just in case the SHTF and we need to leave quickly. My wife says something to the effect that she isn’t afraid to die and god will take care of her etc etc. My reaction is I want to climb a freakin wall…

      • marcopolojetlag

        MeMadMax, Please don’t feel like you have to accept advice from me, but please let me give you an idea. I think the focus in your case should be on your relationship with your wife and on coming to the point that you see things together. Don’t do anything until you can both agree and then pull together in it. The load will be much lighter if you can pull together. Why would you want to let these things pull you apart? What is more important to you… making your life more comfortable and secure or loving your wife? You can probably find some food when you need it (if God helps you), but your wife is the greatest treasure you have. You don’t want anything to come between you and begin to divide you.

        • MeMadMax

          Oh no no, this issue is far from dividing us, it’s just a disagreement that’s no different her preferring coke and me pepsi… =D In the end, I will prep anyways, it’s part of the job that comes with protecting the family lol

          • marcopolojetlag

            That’s great. Really glad to hear that!

        • GiantM

          That is the exact issue in my house. I just can’t get my wife to see things the way I see them. I went out and spent just over a grand on food 2-1/2 years ago and albeit canned goods and other things from Sam’s they have reached the time to eat or send to the local food pantry. But then I get the “I told you so” attitude.

          But now I begin to feel like unless I have ample amounts of cash to prepare for just about any situation, I think if I missed anything, everything else would be in jeopardy. In other words the scenarios for failure to prep properly are endless if you didn’t prepare correctly.

          Besides I have read enough to know that if your spouse thinks and sees things just as you do, that’s 99% out of the way the rest of the 1% is prepping.

          At least that’s how i feel atm

          • jaxon64

            Okay men—my wife lets me be the man and I keep 3+ months of stores in the home.
            However I also do the work. I bought the food, I built the shelves, and I rotate the food so there is nothing “expiring”.There is never an issue if you simply grab some corn and green beans from your canning or canned goods and eat them for dinner–then I buy more to replenish the stores with newer stuff and rotate the shelf.
            If I have some cans of Chef boyR Dee or Chunky Soup nearing expiration?–well then I’m saving money on lunches for the next few weeks as I’m packing a bowl, some crackers or bread and using the lunch room microwave–and then I buy more to maintain a fresh and current supply of 3+ months of food stores—
            Come on men. We are supposed to be the spiritual heads of our households, the rock of security for our children and providers—sometimes you just let the wife know this is a man thing–and treat it as such, man up!! Build some shelves, pantries..whatever…sheesh.

        • jaxon64

          You sounded like Dr Phil for a second…your points are true–just a bit of an assumption of their marital relationship and quick to counsel ..it made me laugh a little ( not trying to be mean–just struck me as funny)

          • marcopolojetlag

            Jaxon64, thank you for that… No, I don’t mind. It’s just that it’s such a big thing with me. I see so many frazzled relationships, and I see people arguing over things that are so trivial, hurting each other over “nothings”. To some people, their own comfort or fulfilling their own desires is more important than the relationship, and that greatly damages the relationship. There are such infinite possibilities and depths of love available–we ought to guard our relationships with extreme care.

      • AnotherWife

        appeal to her frugal side… tell her the food you buy now would have cost you much more next year. If she does the grocery shopping in the family, surely she has noticed the rising prices. And if you stock up on ammo or metals think of it is on “sale” now and you can resell to someone next year at a higher price than you would have made putting that money in a mutual fund or savings account. And if you just happen to need the supplies yourself then all the better you had them bought.

        • MeMadMax

          We do the shopping together. I point out that this and this was only this much only so long ago and it’s gonna get worse… She stands there as if I just gave a speech on spatial physics… We can’t get ammo or metals we live in california(I’m hoping to get out of here soon however, this place is going tick tock tick tock) One time, I caught my wife throwing away bottles of water that I had stored up in the kitchen(it was a temp place till I had cleaned another area lol)I told her not to throw those away. She said the water went bad………. She tried the same thing with a box of canned food too. The stuff was far from expiring but it was the same excuse.

          • JayJay

            OMGOSH!!
            I am just now eating foods I stored from year 2008.
            I am amazed sometimes at the stupidity out there!
            I ate home-canned green beans from 1992. They were delicious!!! I had tomato juice I canned for over 15 years.
            PUH–LEEZE, people, stop throwing away perfectly good food.
            Maranatha.

    • callmecordelia1

      Thank you, Michael, for all you do. Thank you for being a watchman on the wall and having the courage to stand up for what you believe in. You are a great example to me, and I need to follow your example and be better at speaking up.

    • markthetruth

      This is ” Pro Faith ” if you believe in God he would like to see us prepare against for what the Devil is temping us to do and are already doing which is to be ” GREEDY ” and to forget all of what God has Taught us about Life and Destroy the earth and Steal From the Future Humans All for our Greedy Luxury Style of Living and Defying all his Morals and Ethics . You are Free to Stand in the Fire and Burn or Find Shelter . I prefer the Latter !!!

      the end…

      • markthetruth

        This Whole subject is why George Carlin’s Epic Quote is so True.

        I’m completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death.

        the end…

        • jaxon64

          George Carlin is an avid “atheist” who made entire stand-up routines mocking Christian beliefs and faith..some of the vile and loathsome comments/”jokes” he made about Jesus’ masculinity or sexuality were pure hate.
          I am a monarchist–Jesus is my savoiur and King…..

          • L Lewis

            he is an empty vessel
            prepare till you are content

          • markthetruth

            Regardless of his beliefs and mocking of Christians it’s his right to be an atheist.

            That’s exactly why the two should separate . The Christian faith itself is made up with numerous denominations

            the end…

          • marcopolojetlag

            markthetruth, of course it’s his right to be an atheist. I wouldn’t want to force anyone to believe anything, unlike some other religions that will kill you if you don’t convert.

            To be sure, the Christian church of today, and especially of America is filled with hypocrisy, self-seeking, and greed, and the denominations are in direct contradiction to the scriptures where we see that the only division was due to locality, as in the church in Ephesus, the church in Galatia, Corinth, and so on. I believe there are people in many of these groups that love God, but the overall testimony is nothing like what you see in the Bible.

            So despite the fact that the so-called church in America is for the most part a complete disgrace to the name of Christ, that does not mean that there is not a remnant and a true church where people actually love each other, practice what they preach, and live in a way that brings glory to God. Have you ever met a genuine Christian that you could admire?

          • Sam

            Yeh because the inquisition wasn’t about killing people if they didn’t convert to Christianity.

          • marcopolojetlag

            Sam, you have probably heard of false flag attacks where someone flies the flag of their opponent in order to make an attack look as if done by the opponent. In my opinion the inquisition definitely qualifies as that. Not everyone that claims to be a Christian is a Christian. Where in the Bible do you see Jesus telling us to kill those who will not convert to Christianity? On the contrary, Jesus told us to love our enemies and pray for those that treat us badly. (Matthew 5:43, 44)

            And then just a little farther along (Matthew 7:21 – 23) He makes it very clear that it is only those that are actually doing the right thing that will make it into Heaven. Being wicked (killing others) will keep you out of Heaven. Read the Bible if you want to know who is going to make it in. It doesn’t matter what people around you think or say.

          • LadyFloridaCracker

            It’s freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion! :)

          • Mondobeyondo

            Carlin was one of those classic “faith vs. proof” guys – if I don’t see it with my own eyes, it didn’t happen. The apostle Thomas was the same way. Many, if not most people are.

    • cherylmeril

      If you think you have a Christian based site Michael, you are gravely mistaken and misleading others by not equipping them with His Word daily, what it takes for a non-believer to be saved of Jesus return forthcoming.

      Here’s where you stand in God’s time line.

      You are promoting the fact the Heaven & Earth 2.0 program is coming to an end, that there is a transition taking place and are thus profiting from educating people of this fact without delcaring and promoting their only salvation in accepting Jesus Christ in order to be recognized by the new Heaven & Earth 3.0 system God’s rolling out. The damned are visiting your site and not getting God’s message Michael, you have a lot of missed opportunities to save souls through Jesus because of it

      To continue. . .

      You are reporting on the facts and fearful effects of the old 2.0 program disintigrating in its becoming more transparent with Satan the hacker at its helm. You are really parallel to being what God’s Word refers to as a Watchmen, but are failing to educate people Scripturaly to put on God’s armor and what they need to do spiritually in order not to end up in the lake of fire endgame program.

      What this all means:

      So, though you’re sort of warning people of coming disaster, you’re ineffective in terms of anything God would honor in heaven because it’s secular based. As with Alex Jones, your communications have a strong hint of Christian dooms day end world caution but you clearly leave it up to the reader on what to do about it while offering them options in surviving into the tribulation period. You profit in falling short of pointing people to spiritual salvation and this is likely a very serious problem God has with you at this point in time.

      If you think of yourself as what you are, a fallen human being and sinner, you won’t get caught up into believing your website, book etc. has gotten you anywhere with God where you’ve clearly become over confident of your salvatio. n Because you may want to consider your failure to be a strong supporter of Jesus and His Word on your site is testimony to the fact you merely promoting the fear of a fallen society without providing people with any means of salvation and spiritual warfare against Satan through Jesus Christ whatsoever. The fact you profit and have made a business of this is serious. Self examination through God’s Word is in order, as well as whether you have a true relationship with God having accepted His Holy Spirit.

      Thus Far What You’re Doing From a Christian Perspective is Cruel to Your Fellow Human Beings Michael:

      It’s cruel not to let non-believers know they’re headed for the lake of fire dead end program Michael, where they won’t make it into God’s new operational system. It’s very cruel to promote their survival into the horrifying anti-Christ tribulation program rather than promoting Jesus Christ return as what any true Christian should be looking for.

      • GSOB

        cherymeril,

        What are you doing to build up the body, besides getting on Michael for not filling all the needs in the presence of the people you are trying to help? You really should have taken your concern to him in private.

        The body builds itself in love, each one contributing their part out of gratitude to God for His Christ.

        What Michael does not address, others can contribute. Blog.

        We all could be doing more.

      • Graham

        Superb example of another whackphant suffering from mass delusion. It is people like you that the powers that be want to dispose of in FEMA camps and likely DUMB’s.

        That will be your “rapture” after they initiate the “voice to skull” technology en masse to ensure that “God told you not to resist”.

        Your diatribe is making Christianity look like a narcissisticly orientated disorder. Some might say psychotic.

        Get your mind cleaned out love. The devil works in mysterious ways too and it would appear he has a very firm hold over your unfortunate state of consciousness.

        If you work for one of the intelligence agencies, accept my apologies as I realise you are “just doing your job”.

        • http://loyal9.org/ Josh, Loyal9.org

          Regarding “If you work for one of the intelligence agencies, accept my apologies as I realise you are “just doing your job”.

          Hilarious

      • Graham

        Are you the person who contacted Michael, hence the underlying reason why this story was born? Irrespective of, you have some audacity calling yourself a “Christian”.

        The wording in your post is a very clear attack against a very rational and sane person who is achieving far more in his “service to others” than the written poison that arose from your mind.

        Allow me to get even more specific wirh you. You are behaving like somebody who is little more than a lapdog for Satan. You are also an embarrassment and a severe liability to “balanced” Christians.

        To be even more brutal, you don’t even know “what” God is, aside from what you have been brainwashed into believing. Try some Christian based meditation and help yourself to “waken up”.

        [Censor this if you please Michael but I have had enough of this type of deranged buffoon]

      • http://loyal9.org/ Josh, Loyal9.org

        Also, CherylMeril, if you believe, as you seem to preach, that accepting Christ as savior is the only step and process to salvation and nothing can take that away, then you are now denying Christ’s power to save…

      • K

        Not all are meant to reap the Harvest. Some are meant to plant the seed. That is how I view this place. A place where seeds are planted. Judge not lest ye be judged.

      • MichaelfromTheEconomicCollapse

        This is one of the reasons why the Church is such a mess. Christians love to attack other Christians instead of using their time and efforts to advance His Kingdom.

        Have you even read my book?

        You attack my book for not preaching the gospel, and yet the longest chapter in the book by far is at the very end and it is a very extended invitation to become a Christian.

        I have taken a lot of heat for that chapter, but I wanted to let people know that the most important thing they can do is to receive Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord.

        Is that not enough?

        And there is a link on every single page of this site, every single page on the American Dream and every single page of The Truth to a page which explains how to become a Christian.

        Have you even read this page?…

        http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/the-most-important-thing

        Not only that, but my sites link to tons of Christian ministries, Christian books and Christian articles.

        In addition, my YouTube videos that present the gospel have been viewed millions of times.

        This site is a site about economics. It is my “workplace”. I engage the world with economic articles, and in the process, countless numbers of people are exposed to the gospel.

        But apparently I am doing something wrong.

        So could you please explain how you are getting the message of the gospel to people?

        In your workplace, do you share the full message of the gospel with every single person that comes in?

        If not, why not?

        If you are going to take the time and the energy to judge me, then you must be doing a far better job than I am.

        So could you please explain your evangelistic program to the rest of us so that we could learn?

        Michael

        • Mondobeyondo

          It’s all part of Satan’s strategy. Most people don’t realize it, but the devil is a far better general than Patton or Eisenhower ever were.

          This is no comical character wearing horns, a spiked tail and red suit. He is extremely powerful, extremely intelligent, and without the help of God and the Lord Jesus, mankind doesn’t stand a chance against the devil. You cannot defeat him by your own power.

          Satan is well prepared. He has armies (principalities). He knows when and how to attack. But he can be defeated, if we put on the full armor of God, and study His Word (the King James Version is the only trustworthy one, IMO)

        • cherylmeril

          Michael, I wasn’t aware of much of what you’ve just disclosed, that’s really great and your rewards are in heaven. However, ,when someone is basing someting on His Word, it isn’t an “attack” on you unless you’re doing something ungodly. We as Christians may certainly bring certain things to each other’s attention out of love, and since you’re the one who brought up being consiered “anti-Faith” and asked questions in your article, I felt it within my rights as a Christian to bring up issues I’ve noted about your sight using fear mongering.

          No I haven’t read your book and I’m very happy you are promoting Jesus as people’s salvation. No one can detract what you’re doing on behalf of Jesus and His Kingdom, there shouldn’t be any hard feelings you have over allegedly being attacked. When one is strongly rooted in the Word and God, you can certainly laugh at your detractor’s ignorance instead of taking it so personally and lashing out as such with “what are you doing for God?” kind of thing.

          You should be fully secure with your relationship with God that no person should be able to disturb you at all, and that’s where faith and trust come in .

          So when you posed a question in your article I merely responded and am perfectly secure with that fact. It wasn’t a personal attack on you at all.

          • Graham

            Hilarious. You arrive as “Judge” then return as the “Jury” and then back to being “Judge” again.

            You were obviously made “consciously aware” of the facts before realising your error, before rave two started.

            I would take a very close look into your other “beliefs” and start to recognise where you are lacking.

            If you start thinking for yourself you might come to your senses. It is “unconscious” clowns like you that has led to so much religious based trouble in this world.

            Look at the mess your country is in now. The attitude seems to be to ignore it and push onto the next part of the fundamentalist Christian agenda because your group are going to be “saved”.

            The only thing that doesn’t save itself from blind stupidity is a fool.

          • MichaelfromTheEconomicCollapse

            I forgive you, and I hope that you will forgive me.

            Sadly, I still think that you fundamentally misunderstand the nature of this site.

            I am not giving people fear.

            I am helping to wake people up and giving them hope.

            Throughout the Scriptures, there are lots of people that you may consider to be “fearmongers”, but they were really warning the people.

            Isaiah, Jeremiah, Hosea, etc. constantly warned about horrible, horrible things that were about to happen.

            But it was not about fear.

            It was about love.

            There is a lot more that you need to hear, but I don’t think that you are willing to receive it from me.

            So I will just say may you be blessed and wish you the very best.

            Michael

      • Makati1

        And you set yourself up as judge cherylmeril? Where does it say that you can do that? How do you know what the plans of your master are? Some words from the pulpit? Some dusty old words that have been translated many times over the centuries?

        How about the FACT that Christians and Muslims worship the SAME god? Who is right? You? Why? Because you were born into a Christian family and not a Muslim one? Had you been born a Muslim, you would be defending that one with as much vigor, believe me. Religions blind people to the truth…

        • Graham

          A very relevant point. I have been “open ears” to what several Islamic friends have to say about their own beliefs and religion. Very interesting.

          There are so many points in common, but then we are all “human”.

          [Note to the NSA folks and the Big Ears (see Noddy) at GCHQ]

          Yep, you are human too. Just unplug yourself from the “beast” you work with for a living and maybe try organic farming instead.

          The farm has “beasts” to, just so you feel at home. Note that slaughter is a part of the process, but for different reasons.

          So is it food farming or continued data farming? Your terabytes need to keep an eye on the terrapins like myself. When’s the “babysitter” arriving?

      • Mondobeyondo

        *whew!*

        “Deranged buffoon”? Really, Ms. Meril? Who’s the one being deceived? The devil does his work very well.

        True Christianity – the way, and the way of life, that Jesus taught – is offensive to many. There’s a reason for that. You may have seen a satellite, but you haven’t seen the Light.

      • Mondobeyondo

        Oh by the way – quit stealing my name ideas! LOL :)

        I’m tempted to change my name to Summer Autumn Winterspring – but I believe it’s already copyrighted. Ugh. Would have been a great “nom de plume”.

      • George

        Wow. Good job Michael! You are not doing your job if your not pissing these pentecostal Christians off. Only the narsissistic ones speak like this. They are truly horrible. Nothing but vampires I tell you what. I know what I’m talking about I grew up pentecostal.

    • squashpants

      Hey, Michael, I am one of the non-Christians on this site, but I totally understand the issue here. I think that the Creator meant for our relationship to Him/Her/It to be a cooperative one. It’s the old “God helps those who help themselves”. We aren’t here on holiday to be served by the supernatural and completely taken care of. If we act in our behalf, we will have at hand the resources of Providence. I believe we are expected to perform the mission that we signed on for, not to just cruise. So, yes, we will be subject to the troubles of the world, but it is not something to be endured so much, as exploited for all the soul growth we can muster out of it. The challenge for Christian preppers, IMO, is to what degree they will be compassionate and share their supplies. A really difficult prospect, because they, and their loved ones, may suffer deprivations if they go that route. But to completely disregard the dilemma is to put them in a position to question their own Christian ethics. Even though I am not a Christian, I agree with the spiritual princilples that Christ imparted, so I am as much in that dilemma as are the rest of you.

      • GSOB

        squashpants,

        Though you may agree with the spiritual principles that Christ imparted – you have another dilemma,………..

        Jesus said, “Truly, truly, I say to you, Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh, and drinks my blood, has eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed”. …

        Jesus is the bread that comes down out of heaven.

        • squashpants

          You are as entitled to your beliefs as I am, and I think we should all go with what makes sense to us. But in spiritual matters, by the very nature of the beast, one cannot scientifically prove or disprove any certain belief. We can only choose to take on faith what we are told. We will each only know the truth of things when we die. That is why I take my spiritual cues from the accounts of people who have died and have been brought back to life. I choose to believe what they say they learned about the Big Picture while they were out of body, rather than the sayings of men millennia ago. The afterlife and the purpose of existence that Near Death Experiencers report both makes more sense and is kinder than anything I have read in the books of Organized Religion. So it’s not a dilemma for me, because as I said, I am not a believer in the standard Christian line.

    • garand555

      Michael, I am not a Christian. I try to not be “In your face” with my views, but it is difficult sometimes with the government involved in just about everything. The more that government is involved in things, the more likely that it will be doing something contrary to somebody’s religious beliefs. Therein lies the rub with staying out of other people’s business on this matter. And no, when it comes to government, I do not want anarchy, I just wish to be left alone.

      I bet you’d agree with me that the stupidity in banking in government is mind boggling. I bet you’d agree with me that the fraud in DC and banking is also mind boggling. I agree with you that our current system is unsustainable, and quite frankly, I am frightened because I know that something is going to break and I don’t know how big that break will be.

      No, I do not find articles like this offensive. In fact, I appreciate it. I may have to depend on somebody like you in the future and somebody like you may have to depend on me. I’d rather know how people like you think now than when times are uncertain. I don’t have a lot to offer in terms of physical resources, but I am getting my connection to the earth back by pulling my own food out of it, which I think will be of high value in the future. I also don’t think that being concerned with how you’re going to eat tomorrow or in a month or in a year is being materialistic.

      And I was under the impression that most Christians believed in free will. If you knew that things were going to get bad and you had free will, wouldn’t you prepare?

    • http://americandictators.blogspot.com/ WarriorClass III

      Proverbs 22:3. Says it all really.

      • GSOB

        ‘A prudent person foresees danger and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.’

        Yes, it does

    • Gay Veteran

      how many 10s of 1000s of terrestrial species are there? they couldn’t fit into a ship the size of Rhode Island

    • JustanOguy

      Don’t let a survivor of the People’s Temple get to you. ;)

      • Mondobeyondo

        Don’t worry. I drank the Nestle Quik. It wasn’t spiked.

    • energizedmortal

      I prepare because there is a survival chemical in my brain that I did not design but obey naturally even though I know that dying will be my end game. The economic collapse is one thing, the nuclear bombs that will follow and wipe my whole stockpile in less than one second is another. I sleep well knowing that I am not responsible for creation that turns into destruction being possible. Being part of a time that will never come again is an honor no matter what.

    • afchief

      I too am a Born Again Believer. But, the question I have for you Michael is when the economy collapses and you see your brother in need, will you share with him or will you hoard?

      • Graham

        You will maybe have to consult what the “manual” says on that one as it appears the free will to choose with “your own” mind doesn’t come into it.

        Forget your brother for a second. What will you do if a Jew or Moslem comes for help? Preach, shoot or feed?

    • Chy

      Well said Michael!!! I’ve had similar experiences when God wants me to warn people and they choose to bury their head in the sand or pretend I’m out my mind…..I’ve had many dreams telling me to start to prepare…and I am.

    • sj4jss

      This is a fantastic article. Sums up the current challenges we all have and how we can address them. So many people seem to loose interest in what is so relevant and get side tracked…..I have not quite worked this out why some as open to this knowledge and others are so closed?

  • Rodster

    I have friends who are JW’s and I say the same thing to them as I would to any christian. You prepare the best you can for the economic collapse and leave the rest up to God. You need to do your part.

    Question, is preparing your home for a hurricane or any other natural disaster and taking the necessary steps to protect your home, family and pets anti christian? The answer is an emphatic NO.

    You prepare the best you can then you leave it up to God to help out. The incoming economic collapse should be NO different.

    • MichaelfromTheEconomicCollapse

      I agree. We should do the best that we can and leave the rest up to God. :)

      Michael

  • Prepper Website

    And those Christians shouldn’t put gas in their car either because it will miraculously appear…

    I appreciate your work and your faith!

    Peace,
    Todd

    • MichaelfromTheEconomicCollapse

      Very good point Todd.

    • Rodster

      Where would we be today as a human race if Noah hadn’t prepped? ;)

      Noah = The original prepper

    • Graham

      Gas has a better chance of “rapturing” due to natural evaporation.

      The “gas bags” will have difficulty doing likewise unless they find a way to dematerialise every cell in their body.

  • George

    It is completely foolish for someone to say that to you Michael. I’m not a very smart man, but what I lack in intelligence I more than make up in empathy. I can feel moods extremely intense. Can you guys out there feel the mood of the country and world? Be wise, prepare and keep the faith!

    • MichaelfromTheEconomicCollapse

      It sounds like you have a great gift George. What is your assessment of the mood of the country right now?

      Michael

      • George

        If I had to describe it I would use words such as depressed, fearful, anxious, edgy and faintheartedness. If you guys are having trouble sleeping here’s a lullaby.

        In peace I will lie down and sleep, for you alone, LORD, make me dwell in safety. Psalms 4:8

        Good Night!

        • garand555

          I would add that things seem surreal. What happened to the country that I cherished while growing up? What happened to the idea that you should strive to leave the world a better place than when you came into it? I don’t recognize this country or even the world itself anymore. Fear has taken away our reason and we are gripped by mass insanity with a healthy dose of cognitive dissonance. Yes, I have my fears, but I would rather realize that we are in for hard times and face that fact directly rather than cower.

          • George

            Right you are. Its so difficult to notice the change because it is so subtle. If we could “tune out” the programming for some time then return to it we could notice the change.

            I left and lived abroad for a year and when I returned I noticed how much our country had changed.

            I propose a programming ‘fast’ for a month. Turn your TV off, do not read any newspapers, do not communicate with people using technology. Instead plant a garden, read self help books, talk with your fellow human face to face and just listen do not have any input.

            Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent’s fate.
            Sun Tzu

          • garand555

            Are the changes really that subtle, or have they just been obscured by the time that they have taken to occur? I think that the change is major, but hidden. From the 16th Amendment to Wickard v Filburn to the Patriot Act to Kelo v New London to the NDAA, we, as a collective have, at some point in time, decided that the state is more important than We The People. I do not want an opponent, but I think that one will call me out, regardless of what I want.

            As for the garden, I have one. I’m no master gardener, but I am getting food out of it. I think that a lot of people would be better ripping up their lawns and growing food. It would be better for the land, people would know what they’re eating and they’d be able to choose varieties that are not sold in the stores, and it would be taking some of the leverage that the state has against them away.

  • Gary

    Here’s the real issue; it isn’t to prep or not to prep. It is a matter of doing what God tells you to do.

    If God tells you to store up and prepare, do so.

    At any rate, God’s Word states quite clearly that the promises are yes and amen and we have a God who provides for His own–regardless of what the world is experiencing. He hasn’t forgotten the recipe for manna. So, either way, whether you store up some stuff or not, your ultimate trust has to be in God–not in your provision.

    Would you want to be the only one on your block with food and provision in a time of trouble? Would you hoard it instead of giving it away? These are the hard questions we need to ask ourselves.

    It goes deeper than to prep or not.

    • Rodster

      God ask me for your address so I can send you food when you didn’t take the time to prepare.

      • Gary

        I never said not to prepare. Go back and read and understand. If God says to prep, no problem. You need to be Spirit led not hand fed. It is a matter of priority.

    • MichaelfromTheEconomicCollapse

      Good points.

      If we prepare, we will have something to share with those in need during times of trouble.

      And you are very right – our ultimate trust needs to be in God.

      Michael

    • rtrout

      “He hasn’t forgotten the recipe for manna”. That made me smile, rare commodity for me lately.

  • lynnie

    In the wilderness, food fell from the sky and water came out of a rock. God provided and nobody had to do a thing. In the Promised Land, people had to farm the soil and dig wells and mine for ore. The promised land meant God providing as people worked hard, knowing that it was God who gave them the ability to provide food and water and tools and fiber and everything else.
    A lot of Christians want to live in a wilderness where food will fall out of the sky and they will pick up manna off the ground to eat when troubles come. But in this promised land of abundance we are in, it is time to work hard now to have food during that coming season.

    • MichaelfromTheEconomicCollapse

      Good points. :)

      Michael

      • Deb

        Michael,
        I am not a Christian but I prep. I can’t believe that most preppers are Christian. I know a lot of atheists that are prepping. And to me, it just seems like the logical thing to do.
        Yours is just one blog I read about the coming collapse. The fact that you are Christian doesn’t change how I view what is happening.

        • Gay Veteran

          totally agree.
          but Michael needs to be careful who he allows to interview because some of them are religiously insane

          • Graham

            Many of your posts make rational sense GV and as such, you undoubetdly serve an important role in the forums… keeping the “balloons” and their “hot air” well tethered.

          • Gay Veteran

            thank you

  • K

    Michael from my perspective you have hit the nail on the head. These are the same people who say you must support the government, and not speak out when they commit evil acts. Or that you should take no action to protect yourself and your loved ones. Why would the Lord warn any of us, except we should prepare. Yes do what you can, and leave the rest with the Lord. Quoting a scripture, and saying it means you should do nothing, even when warned. Sounds like taking the easy path. As I recall the Lord had a bit to say about folks that take the easy path.

    • http://lastdayrapture.blogspot.com/2011/08/jesus-said-at-last-day.html TK

      Great Post K!

  • WM

    Great article Michael, I think you are right on. The Christians who say God will provide for everything , still go to work to make money to pay their bills. Seems a little hypocritical to do that then critsize you for writing about being prepared.

    I am sure many of the critics are fr the charismatic camp, as well as those who have been fed the peace and prosperity, feel good, God has a wonderful plan for your life, “gospel”

    Kind of like those who mocked Noah and died when the water flowed.

    Thank you for your hard work, please don’t let the mockers get to you.
    Grace be with you.

    • MichaelfromTheEconomicCollapse

      No, the mockers don’t really get to me. But sometimes I use them for story ideas. :)

      Michael

      • http://loyal9.org/ Josh, Loyal9.org

        Great response.

    • Mondobeyondo

      God will provide, but not necessarily what you want. In the words of that great sage, Mick Jagger – “You can’t always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you get what you need”.

      Yes, God will provide. But you have to do your part. He won’t just give it to you. You have to earn it. When Adam and Eve sinned in the Garden of Eden, they lost any opportunity for God to give them what they wanted without effort. So now, we must till the earth, There is a penalty for sin.

      Genesis 3:17-19

  • Moose Dr.

    Thanks for the article. I have not had people directly challenge me about the wisdom of prepping as a Christian. However, I have put the issue through my thought mill.

    I very much agree with your analysis, there is good Christian theology to justify prepping. We who are able to prep, and who can see the storm coming are fools to not do so.

    When the crisis hits, there will be plenty of time for faith. There will also be an overabundance of opportunity for charity, for sharing our wisdom and our prep with those who did not prep, or didn’t do enough prep.

    I have done some prepping, but will not be “prepped” until fall of 2014. I just hope and pray that the crisis holds off until then.

  • http://www.facebook.com/barbara.j.blevins.5 Barbara Jean Blevins

    yes i know for sure something is coming, i am a christian, i would love to move to ky, tenn, get some land take my family and prep, but i am on ss and its always food or medicine.where do you get the money to prep??? so you tell me, what do we christians do who has no money???? and believe me theres a lot of us. if you ask me we are already in a downward spiral, a 5.00 raise last year for ss. thats a shame. they get it all back anyway.and i tell you when the time comes there’s going to be a lot of hungry christians who couldn’t prep.and i hope the preppers will take care of them.

    • jamie

      Barb I’m on SSD and I prep! I don’t know your situation or what it costs where you live. But $20.00 will get you 50 pounds of flour or rice or oats and at least 20-25 pounds of beans if you buy in bulk. You can work on skills like foraging, camp cooking for a crowd or a container garden of herbs and quick growing plants like lettuce. Learning skills is very cheap if you have an internet connection and no one can ever steal that knowledge.

      Claiming you are a Christian and hungry and thirsty gets no more consideration from me than if you claim you are pagan, muslim or atheist or whatever. Why should I give you what I have scrimped, saved and sacrificed in my life because you claim to be a christian? Sorry to say you are no better than hoping others prep and they will save you!

      • GSOB

        jamie,

        Matthew 25:34 > 40

        The parable of the sheep and the goats (Jesus said the following will come to pass)

        ….Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

  • Marc

    Proverbs 22:3
    A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.

  • Ralfine

    Yes, and do not worry about all that snooping. Have faith that everything will be for your own good and that God will punish the wrongdoers.

    (how to switch sarcasm off?)

    • George

      Who can punish the people doing ill will to good people you or God? This is how you turn off the sarcasm.

      Luke 6: 25 Woe to you who are well-fed now, for you shall be hungry. Woe to you who laugh now, for you shall mourn and weep. 26 Woe to you when all men speak well of you, for their fathers used to treat the false prophets in the same way.

      I’m by no mean saying we shouldn’t do anything but be calm as a dove and sneaky like a serpent my friend.

  • JailBanksters

    A Collapse indicates the Economy is going to turned off like a Light Switch, but it’s going to be more like a Dimmer Switch. So slow, their will be no defining moment. How can you prepare for something that doesn’t actually have a beginning or a middle, and if you don’t know when it starts how can you possibly know when it ends. As each month goes by, that becomes the new Norm. One of the new Norms, High Unemployment

    • marcopolojetlag

      JailBanksters, it may not be like a light switch, but I think it’s going to be much more sudden than you are expecting. The whole financial realm is so interconnected that once things really start hitting the fan, I think the whole thing is going to blow skyhigh. Right now we are seeing things getting worse little by little, but we have not yet seen the major events that are going to really start it. The crisis of 2008 was a little preview. This one will be the real deal, and the governments are not going to step in and bail out the banks like they did in 2008. This time it will be more like Cyprus. They already have the legal framework in place.

      • JailBanksters

        In a normal universe it might happen that way.
        But these guys are going to Lie, Cheat, Steal, Print Money until Infinity to keep this Ponzi Scheme Alive until they control 100% of the Planet.
        Even if it did crash a week gone Tuesday, the same criminals will still be in change. The only way to speed it up, people are going to have to start whacking people and demanding real Political Change not this Red/Blue Team Propaganda Krap, I can’t see that happening in the Western World. Alternatively a Mega Volcano or Huge Asteroid would help.

    • Rebecca

      The government has indicated that they are planning to flick off the light switch in a planned event. Ammo stockpiling, government/police training like military, all govt employees being warned to prep (even though the public is NOT warned), white house officials acknowledging that the administration fully intends to “kill the dollar.” I think under normal circumstances things will happen gradually, but there is a lot of suspicious stuff out there to make me think otherwise. Best to be prepared for either scenario.

      • JailBanksters

        You can only be prepared so far. How long will it last, 1 month, 6 months,1 year, 5 years. You can only keep so much Fuel, Beans in the cellar. The Revenuers are only prepping for an event that may or may not occur. But if the public decided to go ape sh#t tomorrow, the Revenuers will do anything possible to save the Gov’mint, even if that means whacking half the Population.

  • Cosmic2011

    If a person has the money and space to prep, by all means they should do so. I plan to go into the wild and eat weeds and drink potentially contaminated water. If it kills me, oh well.

    • marcopolojetlag

      Cosmic2011, I’ve got a better idea… why not learn to pray and get in touch with the One that made you? Then He will tell you what to do in the hard times. The idea of drinking pond water doesn’t sound very appealing to me. Life will be unpleasant enough… having diarrhea on top of it all could make it unbearable. If there is a God that made us, do you think He can communicate with us, give us wisdom on what to do, and care for us?

  • Neil Boxer

    The teachers are training their students to become oversexualised, obedient to authority and having faith in the SYSTEM.

    SYSTEM= Mark of the Beast/One World Government.

  • Ralfine

    Michael, ask the good faithful why they wear shoes.

  • Ralfine

    If you go cold and hungry and die, how can you help your family and neighbour?

    And as a Christian, aren’t you supposed to help those less fortunate? God has given you your body and brain and soul to use.

    And didn’t he tell you to leave the judging and punishing to him? So do not waste your god-given abilities to hunt and kill people, use them to build houses and grow food and heal people.

  • Makati1

    I was born a Protestant, lived most of my adult life as a Mormon in the high priesthood, and quit all of it 12 years ago when I saw the hypocrisy, lies, coverups and power of control by leaders ‘called by God’ (when often they were called because no one else would serve), for their positions, only to later witness pedophilia and adultery by those same men, being covered up. The Catholics don’t have the market cornered on bad leadership. It is just being exposed while others have managed to keep it covered up.

    Faith is for those who rely on some other entity to give them courage or strength. Faith in yourself and your family and friends is logical and encouraged. Faith in your neighbors is good also. But faith in anything else is just wishful thinking.

    Anyone who does not prepare will be left in the dust or for the dogs to eat. There is no power guiding your life except you. There is nothing that is going to save you except yourself. If that makes you angry, good! Maybe it will also make you think.

    I am preparing for what I see coming. What is coming is not prophecy, it is the result of greed and arrogance and slothfulness. There is no quick release from these problems except death and oblivion. The government is taking away the safety nets you have relied on. Now you have to rely on your own intelligence and abilities. And about time!

    • marcopolojetlag

      Makati1, the fact that there is a counterfeit does not mean there is not a real, in fact it can be a sign that there is a real thing. I completely believe what you are saying about what you have seen, and unfortunately those problems are even more widespread than what you are seeing. But have you met the power of God that can change a life and make a person love others more than himself, and lay down his own life in the place of another? How does that sound?

      • Makati1

        There is no “power of god” just the human power to control one’s own life and direction. Mankind did quite well before gods or a god was invented to control them by power hungry men.

        Every person has the power to change his/her life, as many do when they break the indoctrination of their youth, and grow up as independent, responsible adults. Unfortunately, we have too few of them today.

        • marcopolojetlag

          Makati1 Please tell me if you agree with this. Either the universe was created, or it created itself.

        • marcopolojetlag

          Mankind did quite well before mankind was created? Tell me if you agree with this: “Either Someone created mankind, or mankind created itself. Either Someone created the universe, or the universe created itself.” There are certainly many gods created by mankind, but could there also be a true God? There are many false religions, but could there be a true?

    • GSOB

      “Faith in yourself and your family and friends is logical and encouraged.”

      How did we get in this mess in the first place?

      • Makati1

        By ignoring that premise and putting faith in other things and people out of our control.

  • Nancy

    “God helps those who help themselves”

    • GSOB

      That is a very popular sentiment.

  • Michael from Australia

    Michael,

    You forgot a verse
    1 Timothy 5:8

    “But if any provide not for his own, and especially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith and is worse than an infidel.”

    • http://lastdayrapture.blogspot.com/2011/08/jesus-said-at-last-day.html TK

      Right on dude!

    • MichaelfromTheEconomicCollapse

      Great point Michael from Australia. :)

      Michael

  • Jimbo

    I am not Christian or any other faith. I do not disbelieve Christianity or any other faith. Most faiths are based on simple rules and principles. Basically they all boil down to the same thing. We should live our lives in a positive way without detriment to others. If everybody in the world obeyed the Ten Commandments, there would be no war, no theft, no adultery and we would all help eachother in times of need. If everybody followed the Commandments we would not be in this situation now where many provide for the fortunate few and the many will suffer because of the greed of the fortunate few.

    • GSOB

      Jimbo,

      I like your handle. It reminds me of a great drummer, Akira Jimbo.

      Hey, just so you know, unlike all the other so called faiths or religions – are you aware that the Gospel Jesus brings to the world is not about living our lives in a positive way without detriment to others?

      Check out Matthew 10:34 and context
      Jesus said,
      “Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.”

      The way I see it, only the true faith is contrary to the all the others which are trying to emulate it’s fruit. But, no Christ, no fruit.

      • Gay Veteran

        “Hey, just so you know, unlike all the other so called faiths or religions – are you aware that the Gospel Jesus brings to the world is not about living our lives in a positive way without detriment to others?”
        and that is the problem

        • GSOB

          It’s your problem. Sooner or later you’ll have to deal with Jesus.

          Once, a long time ago, the gospel of Christ was my problem too.

          • Graham

            The gospel of the church has never been a problem for me, so stop making ludicrous assumptions.

            The only problem I see is the way it has been delivered by too many elements of mankind.

        • Graham

          GV..

          You have also highlighted the hidden danger such ludicrous commentary brings onto others.

          It not only puts many Christian countries in the targets of other religions, but their citizens too, especially your average and mentally balanced Christian who have respect “for all life”.

          What the fundamentalists don’t see is their own pathetic selfishness and hypocrisy, always prepared to resort to a form of subtle blackmail when it suits.

          Example:-
          Accept Jesus as your saviour, or you will perish.

          That type of statement single handedly deals with Judaism, Islam, Buddhism and many others. I thought all life was of “God’s” creation?

          “God” being the field of creative intelligence where consciousness thrives. Something the “disconnected” (egoic) mind is unlikely to know about unless it experiences it and/or has an understanding of quantum physics which attempts to explain it.

          I don’t think the “tax exempt” churches are teaching anything to do with quantum physics as they seem to be so busy completely brainwashing their subjects with nonsense (whilst generating billions).

  • watching and waiting

    I don’t believe anyone is wrong here. The Bible teaches us to each prepare as we see fit, that the body is made up of many parts. That the church is made up of many people, each fulfilling their own purpose. Perhaps some will go into the period of the end of this age armed only with faith. But there will be a place for those who have prepared materially. The bigger question all Christian Preppers must face, what will you do when your brother who is lacking comes to you in need. Will you point your shotgun at him and tell him to go away, in the name of Christ?

    • GSOB

      Why, feed him –
      if he is your brother.

  • VGraham

    I would say that I mostly agree with everything that you post on here…some good stuff. And I have read your book…pretty good read! My family decided to prepare for an “economic collapse” based on what we felt the Holy Spirit was revealing to us. I believe it has made a real difference in our lives, BUT not so we could be “self-sufficient”…but so we can be completely DEPENDENT on God our Father. He in fact is Provider. I feel deep conviction that our prepping is not only for our family but so that we can be a support and help to others during that time. I believe the story of Joseph is key for us! We are here by design, during this time, for Divine purposes…to see the KINGDOM COME! And as that happens, I want to be as one who will be prepared to carry the baskets of loaves and fishes (so to speak) to those who’s hearts have been prepared (maybe through extreme suffering) to hear from Y’shua. This is in no way meant to be critical…BUT we must find our dependency ONLY on Christ Jesus. And for those with ears to hear and hearts to understand, I believe it could involve setting aside “grain” into storage bins for the coming famine. Bless you as you seek to keep pointing others to Him, Michael!

    • marcopolojetlag

      VGraham, I think that’s great and that’s very close to how I see it. We will never be able to buy everything we need for the next 20 years, so there is no way we can be totally independent, and who wants to be independent? I want to be dependent on God! But I believe there is wisdom in doing what we can and hopefully accumulating enough to be able to share with others around us such as neighbors, friends, and co-workers. Just think about the opportunity for sharing the gospel when you are giving the last bit of food you have to your neighbor who has nothing! Once we give away what we have (as God directs), then we can ask God to step in and make the miraculous provision that some are talking about.

      I personally feel that it is right for some people to prep, and for other people it is not right to prep. How about Elijah? Was he a prepper? He was doing exactly what God told him to do, and every day the ravens brought him food. And then one day the brook dried up and the ravens stopped bringing him food, and it was time to move on. that’s what it’s like to walk with God. You can’t put a formula on it.

      • VGraham

        Right….no formula.

        Sensitivity to hearing His voice and obedience to what He directs is KEY. Prep or don’t prep, move or don’t move…etc…

        I plan on being in a posture of compassion and giving. We do that now and we will when it all goes down. I think it’s all part of being a good steward. And that’s probably why I think it’s so important for us to prep now. We store up so we can give when it is time.

        Love that story of Elijah…and in the next verses you see that he still did not prep, but instead went under God’s direction to a widow who provided for him for that season.

        Good stuff! Thanks for sharing!

  • JulRan

    Thank you for this article, Michael, as it is very timely in my life. I started prepping in 2009. Well, I started stumbling around at it, made a few cheap buying mistakes. Then I “figured out” long-term food buying strategies.

    A couple of years ago, my pastor made a comment about preppers, and I wasn’t sure if he was joking or not. I learned later that he caught a lot of crap for what he said!

    The reason this article is timely for me is because of an internal struggle of my own. I continue to order FD items and tell myself it’s my last order. Then, I examine my spreadsheet inventory calculations and worry that perhaps I need more of this or that.

    I think the faith issue comes into play partly when we focus on ourselves and our worries rather than on what God can do for us. I’ve never been much of a worrier, per se, but about the issue of providing for my family in the coming collapse, I sometimes take my eyes off God. I admit it.

    I thank God every day that he has provided me a decent income with which to make these important purchases. But I do need to pray about some of my feelings of insecurity.

    Proverbs 21:20 The wise store up choice food and olive oil, but fools gulp theirs down.

    **By the way, my husband isn’t fully on board with the prepping. Most recent statement about the toilet paper stored in the rafters, “who in the world needs that much TP”

    • callmecordelia1

      I struggle a little with the same things, Jul. I’m a “prepper”, but I always want to be motivated by faith, and not by fear. It’s definitely hard when some of the things we see ahead of us are pretty scary. Whenever I start considering a large purchase for my prepping, I always pray for clarity. For example, last year I wanted to get a wood-burning stove. I knew it would be a large chunk of change, and I didn’t want to be wasting money that could be spent more wisely. I prayed about it for a couple of weeks, asking God to please help me think with faith and not with fear. One day, I finally felt the answer. I knew that it would be a blessing in the lives of my family and my neighbors, and I felt complete peace about going ahead with it. I’ve also had times when I’ve felt like I “needed” a big ticket item, and prayed for clarity, and ended up being able to let it go and move on. Keep praying, and He will guide you in your decisions and help calm your fears. You’re definitely not alone in your struggles.

  • Digofthedump

    Hi Michael,

    Your website and articles are fantastic and much appreciated. The pantry picture makes me think that a great article to do would be a food guide. What are the best things to store? It may seem an obvious thing to know what to store…but a seasoned prepper or survivalist might have a few good pointers….from a nutritional, shelf-life, and ‘cookability’ (in case of power outages) perspective.

    Best wishes
    David from UK

    • Rebecca

      There are tons of prepper blogs out there that contain all that information that you are looking for. :)

  • marcopolojetlag

    I have been discussing these things very intensely with a friend and family members recently, so it was interesting to see this article. I want to share some of what he wrote to me. He prefers not to be named, so I’ll keep him anonymous.

    ************

    True spirituality takes into account that we live in two realms, that God has created us in such a way that we have life sustaining needs in both realms
    (which chiefly serve the purpose of keeping us subject to Him), and that the primary position taken in having these needs supplied is faith and trust in God, understanding and believing that He is not limited in any way as to how He can supply these needs. We see this, as the Bible is filled with accounts of both natural and miraculous provision, and this should be the testimony of
    every Christian who is walking with the Lord. Most all Christians can tell of times when the Lord supernaturally provided for them, but can anyone
    testify of a life void of natural provision? Of course not, this is not reality. Do we not give God thanks for our daily bread which we work (that work also being provided by God) for as we would for food delivered by ravens if we found ourselves in some desolate place where there was nothing to eat?

    Jesus Himself not only is our example in this, but He taught His disciples the same thing. When Jesus first sent them out to minister, He told them not to take any provisions (Luke 10:4), but at the end of His ministry, when He was ready to depart this world, He told them to use what natural provision they had and to deal wisely in the things of this world in order to secure the things
    they needed (Luke 22:35-36). I believe that Jesus wisely told them this because He knew that if He did not, some would remember that He had sent them with nothing, that they might experience the supernatural provision of God, and then wrongly claim it as not “spiritual” to reasonably prepare for
    the perceived needs of the journey. When the disciples provided for Paul and Barnabas/Silas for their missionary journeys, (something they certainly didn’t ask anyone but God for) they didn’t say, “Oh no brethren! We are leaving with nothing trusting God to supply all our needs”, as that would have been totally undiscerning as to the fact that this was God’s provision, and at the same time, if the Holy Spirit told them to “Go!”, they would not say, “But Lord, we can’t go because You have not yet supplied all our need for the journey”. No, they were spiritual men who were well aware of their needs, wise in dealing with the things of this world, and also discerning of the times. The prophet Agabus warned of a coming famine and the Church heeded his warning and, under the leadership of the apostles, provision was secured for the people of God.
    (Note: The hyper spirituality of seeing the invisible (supernatural) things as spiritual, while viewing visible (natural) things as unspiritual, is actually
    the foundational belief of the Gnostic heresies which many of the epistles, especially the epistles of John, were written to combat. Of course, the
    opposite of this is Hedonism which, in this day and time, is by far the most voluminous error. Interestingly and ominously enough, this day has also brought the hybridization of the two in the hyper-spiritual, prosperity driven (covetousness) Word of Faith heresy that is so prevalent today. )

    Probably the greatest Biblical picture of this issue of divine provision is that of Joseph. In short, Joseph was raised up (by God) in a way such as
    to teach Him to be totally dependent on and loyal to God, but this was for the specific purpose of providing for the people of God (and others) during a famine which the Lord showed Joseph. God didn’t have to go this route, He could have easily provided for His people in the midst of the famine, but instead, He chose to glorify Himself by having Joseph store up 7 years of plenty to provide for the seven years of poverty. However, God does not always work this way, and I personally believe that this portion of scripture moving into the book of Exodus is prophetic of these last days and very instructive, not only in
    showing how God will provide for His people, but also in the order in which certain events will happen. And they match up remarkably with events foretold in the Revelation.

    The things that you are currently seeing are true to the reality of this current season of time and you should speak them while they apply, and if there is one thing that I would encourage you to search out further, it is that the Bible teaches that there will come a time, and possibly very soon, when ALL natural provision will come under the control of the devil and that no amount of gold
    or any other temporal commodity will secure it. In this time, the only way to secure natural provision will be to deny Christ. But these events are the revealed will of God and at that time, His people will need to have the faith to depend solely on His supernatural provision.

    The Pharaoh under which Joseph served was put there by the Lord in order to allow His plan of natural provision to occur. At the same time, the Pharaoh after him (which the Lord raised up), as well as all of the circumstances (the wilderness) leading up the entrance into the promised land (eternity) was hostile to God’s people and during this time when there was no natural provision available to them, God provided supernaturally.

    I believe that we have been and, to date, still are living under the reign of the first Pharaoh so to speak, but the very things that you are seeing, and especially the fact that they incorporate the whole world, are themselves signs that we are transitioning into the time in which this world will be totally hostile towards God’s people, and no natural means will be of any assistance to us. Think on this: The children of Israel departed Egypt with what basically amounted to all of the treasure of Egypt, but of what use was it in procuring personal provision in the wilderness?
    All of that gold was completely worthless on a personal level and the Lord wants us to see this. It’s only use was of a spiritual nature and the symbolism is that it only had two uses:

    1) to be used for God’s glory in the building of His tabernacle, or

    2) to the glory of the devil in the constructing of the golden calf.

    This is (though closely related) actually a whole different topic that I won’t go into now, but suffice it to say that gold was of no use in obtaining personal provision in that wilderness and God provided supernaturally during that time. The same is going to happen with God’s people as the transition is made into the wilderness of the last days, and we must have the discernment to know when this happens, and when to abandon our use of the world system which, at that point, will become a trap.

    One additional point that I would make here that I ask you to consider more deeply than I perceive that you have (meaning I may be wrong in my perception), is that what you so clearly see and are disclosing to others, requires not only knowledge of the facts, but also certain gifts in order to be able to work in this arena to make the knowledge profitable, and that if people don’t have those gifts, that to enter into such ventures could and probably would be disastrous. One of the things that I see over and over in the scriptures is that God uniquely gifts different people in different ways to supply certain
    needs to the entire body. The New Testament speaks of gifts of administration, but not all have those gifts. Simply understanding complex math is a gift and those who have it, tend to be perplexed at others who don’t get it, but I can speak from the experience of one who is not so gifted, in that there comes a point where no matter how much you strive and study, you just cannot get it and you never will because the ability is simply not in you. Financial matters are very much this way and the greatest evidence of this is that if it were not so, everyone would own a thriving business and be rich. The truth of the matter is, that this world has gotten so complicated, that most people cannot even handle their household budgets, much less even begin to understand how to work within a financial system which is far beyond their comprehension. There is no doubt that you have been gifted of the Lord and given wisdom in areas which allow you to understand and have insight into these things, but you have always got to be
    aware that you are (at times) speaking to others who are not gifted as you are, and, though you may indeed impart wisdom to them, they have no means of accomplishing what you are advocating, and so, to them, the message translates
    to fear.

    Let me attempt to relate this with an analogy that just came to me. There are two birds and a cat 100 feet up in the top of a tree which is on fire.
    They realize that there is no going down and they can climb no higher. Seeing the desperation of the situation, one cries out, “What shall we do!”, and a bird, being given wisdom from God says, “We must fly to safety, it is the only way!”. Now, the other bird, seeing the wisdom, rejoices as he spreads his wings to take flight. But what of the
    cat? Of what value is that wisdom to him? To him, it translates to nothing more than terror. So what is the hope for the cat? It is that the wisdom was not given to the bird solely for his deliverance and for only those who are gifted in like manner, but also that he can do for others what they cannot do for themselves and thereby demonstrate the love of Christ, the Great Deliverer. The answer is that the birds not try to go through the vanity of attempting to teach the cat to fly, but rather carry him to safety. I am called and gifted to preach the gospel in a public format and have too often fallen into trying to admonish others who are not so called to do the same and I always try to watch this carefully. We are all called to witness for the Lord and evangelize to some degree and I do rightly vigilantly encourage others in this, but we are not all called to preach on a street corner. I believe it is the same with administrative/ provisional things concerning the body of Christ. All are called to be personally responsible in their finances, but some are called to see a bigger picture and gifted to operate in that realm for the benefit of those who are not so called. Always remember that the financial realm of this world is where the most voracious wolves on the planet abide and little lambs ill equipped to deal with them will be devoured, so you must be careful who you advise to do so, realizing also that others will hold you personally responsible for advice
    you give them, and if it doesn’t work out, it more likely will get extremely ugly, and that is a sobering thought. Being gifted with the insight to know how to deal with these things, will also likely have the insight to know when to pull away and let go, but if others who have no clue what they are doing merely follow one who does, they would have no true sight into the matter and will likely not discern when to let go.

    I see much spiritual wisdom in God’s ways, for we are called to deny ourselves and be not concerned about what we shall eat or what we shall wear, and so, if the greater volume of the flock is simply going about their Father’s business and seeking Him for their daily bread, trusting Him for tomorrow, and then a few who are so called are looking out for tomorrow, not for themselves, but for the benefit of the flock, then no one has their thoughts centered on themselves and their own well being, but on the kingdom of God. This was the way with Joseph. He warned the people of what was coming, but he didn’t attempt to impart to them his administrative skills. He just basically transferred a message to be prudent in their day to day lives and God provided through him. So I ask, could it be possible that the Lord has gifted you in ways to the end that you are the one through which He will provide for your family? Have you considered that, instead of trying to get each one to venture into these lofty things which they may not be gifted in (and which will possibly focus their thoughts on their own lives), that he has already provided for them, and possibly many more. through you? I want to state that I am not saying that I know this as fact, because I do not, but it is very Biblical and a preferred way of God. You see it in the Book of Acts for sure; those gifted in such matters (ie. Barnabas) didn’t teach others how to be prosperous, rather they were used as channels of blessing through which God’s people had their needs met. All of this reflects the love of God, and (in the writings of a particular individual), though masked behind claims of joy and peace, I am discerning fear, and I believe that (that individual), like multitudes of others may very well be the cat in the top of the tree hearing “Fly! Fly!”, and so, knowing she can’t “fly” but too proud to say so, just looks at the pretty sky above, proclaiming it’s beauty to all, and pretends that the fire isn’t really there. Of course, the fire is there, and so the birds need to ready to carry her to safety.

  • chilller

    The atheists are acting like the gays by slamming anyone who doesn’t think their way. They feel as though they are on some kind of burning crusade to rid the world of Christians (Christian-o-phobics). You won’t find many Christians visiting their blogs saying vile things about their lifestyle, yet they just can’t help themselves when it comes to ridiculing those who don’t believe. Why do you come here? You won’t sway and Christians to your side so why bother? Is your life so hollow this is the only venue you have to fill it? If you believe you know more or are more informed, then you must be smarter than Einstein who did believe in God.
    Since there is no God in your life then He can’t hurt you…right? I suggest you take a more scientific approach by putting Him to the test, a sin in itself. Plan to do something like steal or deface someone else’s property and DARE God to make you pay for your sin. Nothing will happen…right?
    Let us know how that turns out for you.

    • Gay Veteran

      not an atheist because I believe both theists and atheists are arrogant, but being Gay I slam someone when they want to use the power of the state to impose tyranny on others.

      and btw, is this a Christian only blog???

      “…Plan to do something like steal or deface someone else’s property and DARE God to make you pay for your sin. Nothing will happen…right?….”

      very odd argument because it will be the STATE or the person you wronged that will punish you, not god

  • Epi Sadural

    I know how it feels. I’m trying to buy as much foreign currency, because when the USD falls, foreign currency takes over. Yet, people around continue being ignorant. A lot Christians are also waiting for their “rapture”, I’m new to this site, I don’t know if you believe in a rapture or not but many Christians believe that a “rapture” will save them. Ask Noah himself, God told him to built an ark, he never got “raptured” from the earth. If a Christian tells you preparing is “anti-faith”, imagine their reaction when you say that owning guns is Biblical?

    • WM

      Yeah, many in this camp will also tell you that there is no need to own a firearm for self defense, in fact, the majority are anti self defense pacifists, a subject matter the Bible also gives us advise about.

      Funny thing about the rapture thing, is even if one believes in a pre- trib rapture, we will not know the timing of it, and there is no guarantee that total economic collapse. Will not happen prior to rapture.

  • SmOakley

    Do Christians wear their seatbelts or expect devine intervention in the case of an accident? Safety devices are prepping.
    Einstein did not believe in a god. Another mistake Christians make. Read his publications to see the context in which he uses the term “god”. He uses it to essentially mean the laws of the universe because religious zealots have a history of trying to bring down scientists.

  • Dad of two

    Is it to harsh to suggest that at no time and in no place in the bible does god tell us we will be raptured?!? I’m affraid of anyone who doesn’t at the very least buy an extra weeks worth of groceries simply for the fact that those same people will see my family and I like Alex the lion saw his best friend Marty after a few days without food.

    Christian or not, we ALL will face tribulation. Tough times indeed for all mankind are soon upon us and sitting with idle hands will help no one but buying a case of ramen noodles will feed many. It’s very simple.

    • Graham

      Would you kindly share with us all where in the bible it mentions “rapture”? You end your first sentence with a question mark, as if questioning the claim yourself, despite what you said before it.

      This rapture theory sounds more like the promotion of “sitting duck” material to encourage inaction against today’s ongoing’s. Such inaction must be suiting somebody or something to ensure their agenda unfolds unabated.

      Add that on to the point this person has made to Michael. I would certainly question the integrity of the people or groups this nonsensical thinking is arising from and why.

      If I had an agenda to overrun the USA, I would have to seriously consider the strength of the Christian movement within. If I considered blind faith to be a weakness, I would purposely exploit it.

      The rapture, whilst its concept predates the USA, is a cracker. Advising not to prep is another. The “fallen one” has certainly been busy working “all fronts” to ensure the mirrors placed in the mind are not reflecting the absolute truth.

      • http://lastdayrapture.blogspot.com/2011/08/jesus-said-at-last-day.html TK

        Great Post Graham!

    • http://lastdayrapture.blogspot.com/2011/08/jesus-said-at-last-day.html TK

      Definition of Rature:

      “Magic Carpet Ride”

  • Graham

    If faith isn’t followed through with appropriate and decisive action, it could be rightfully regarded as “wishful thinking”. I would certainly question the “voice” this person seems to be hearing inside their head, or perhaps outside of it.

    This person seems to be prepared to put their life and that of their family on the line based on such a principle. If this person fell ill, do they call a doctor, visit a hospital, or simply sit in “faith” that everything will be dealt with from “above”.

    There is a weakness in this persons argument that defies belief. If you have a country thinking in a similar manner, what becomes of that country?

    Did the population of Egypt not just “act” for a second time on their “faith” (belief), that corruption was no longer acceptable in their country? America still seems to be “sitting at home”, preparing to take what is coming. Why?

    When the present tyranny has passed, I think many who found your blogs Mchael will be very thankful for the effort you have made in delivering fundamentally important knowledge, of which prepping is an essential part for those wishing to ensure the integrity of their family remains intact for as long as possible.

    Faith can be meaningless without being supported by concise action. Time to unite and act America? Whose prepared to lead the way? No leaders? What power has the church got to lead it’s people?

  • Jake

    Shouldn’t the global economy have crashed by now? Instead many developing countries are doing quite well. And you can not dispute the US jobs being created. Technological and medical advances. Keep scaring the crap out of people who should rather be contributing to society in more meaningful ways. Same recycled articles a year fom now. Detroit. Inflation. Gold. Silver. Dollar.

    • GSOB

      Well Jake,

      Here is some more good news for you. The Bronze, Silver, Gold and Platinum health care plans will soon be out. The Fed government will cover the states expenses at 100% for a few years, if the state set up an exchange.

      RFID tracking of people for medical records identity and other safety related issues will follow along side of increased austerity measures imposed by the gub.

      Parking fines, traffic fees, late payment fees. HOA dues, food prices, energy bills, registration renewal fees, home insurance, fuel and water – all are going up $.

      • Graham

        Where is this coming from?

        • GSOB

          My wallet.

  • americalsgt

    Last time I checked, it was still God helps those who help themselves.

    • GSOB

      Where is this coming from?

      • americalsgt

        i don’t understand your response. Do you think I’m being disrespectful? I’m not. I ask God for guidance, but how is my statement offensive to you? I was simply agreeing that God will help us, but we need to do our share and responsible.

  • Heather

    I want to say thank you for putting out posts and articles that not only are something I can share, but which contain the information for people to check out your conclusions on their own……..that is incredibly lacking these days with so many other bloggers calling “The sky is falling! The sky is falling!”. The Lord also has been motivating me for five + years now to prepare, to learn skills, to make us less dependent on others, and I am thankful for a place to go where I can read more about it and be forewarned. Thank you Michael, and blessings to you!
    ~Heather @ The Welcoming House

    • MichaelfromTheEconomicCollapse

      Thank you for those kind words Heather. :)

  • BKT

    When it comes to the natural part of man, preparing is a good thing! Only the Lord Jesus Christ can do the preparing to the spiritual part of man!

  • Steve

    The problem with Christianity is Christians, as any non-christian will tell you. People who are supposed to love and care for each other who go to church on Sunday and live the rest of the week like their faith did not matter. The only difference between the worst sinner and a christian is salvation. It is a gift of God so that no man boast of his good works. So the comparison is this: If I am saved by the grace of God and continue to live my life like I had not been touched by His love for me then those who are not saved will look at me and say, “whatever he has I don’t want it”. Those of us who do believe understand the end game according to His word and yes, things will get much worse. We are to be about being a witness of His love for man in the person of Jesus Christ. I read these articles because they seem closer to the truth of how things really are than what I read in mainstream media. Prepping is a choice and those who are may have some advantage over those who don’t. I don’t feel it is a biblical conflict nor that it is something I should be critical of in light of God’s providence. I am convinced that time is short in lots of ways. Do you know Jesus Christ? Ask Him to come into your life. He has already prepped for you and paid the price for your salvation. Think about it and when you are in a quiet place in your busy day speak with Him and He will answer.

    • GSOB

      “If I am saved by the grace of God and continue to live my life like I had not been touched by His love for me then those who are not saved will look at me and say, “whatever he has I don’t want it”.” –

      Do not look at the outward things. Our Lord and heavenly Father disciplines those that are His.

      His love teaches what forgiveness is
      and humbles us.

      The bigger picture….,

      The wheat and tare parable in Matthew’s gospel, the one with the Kingdom perspective, describes that the enemy sows the tares in with the wheat.

      The Kingdom of heaven citizens have been on this planet since Adam and Eve. They are the wheat – the children of God. They are the elect.

      The tares are the children of the devil.
      Though outwardly, they look the same as they grow together in this world – the harvest time will surely identify each of us once and for all, because the angel will come and gather up the tares first, bundle them up and burn them – because they are obstacles to the expansion of the kingdom of God.

      I was once a total tare. Now I’m wheat overlapping tare. One day I’ll be a total piece of wheat.

      Let’s break bread.

      • Steve

        It is much easier to find those things we agree on than to be critical of each other and I do appreciate your perspective GSOB. May God bless your day and give us the strength in the midst of this present world.

        • GSOB

          It’s not a matter of what’s easier.

          Love covers a multitude of sins – while trying to do whats right.

          Even Calvin and Luther did not agree on all things.

          • Steve

            I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, 2With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; 3Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 4There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

    • jaxon64

      Excellent post Steve…reminds me of an old joke……
      A man was driving down the road, tailgaiting, cutting people off in traffic and making gestures and shouting at other motorists who weren’t driving as fast as he wished………..
      A cop saw this man and pulled him over to the side of the road–the cop advanced with weapon drawn and ordered the driver to get out of the car and face down on the ground…
      The man, with his face in the dirt asked the cop, “why are you treating me like a criminal?’
      The cop said..”I saw your Christian bumper stickers and Fish symbol and assumed that the have been stolen”.
      If we as Christians had to stand trial for being a Christian, could the prosecutors call witnesses with strong enough testimony to convict us?
      PS: Don’t presume that I am a “salvation by works” type. I am a fundementalist and understand fully my despicable nature and unworthiness of God’s glory. I am so humbled and grateful by His amazing grace and love for each and every one of us humans–such a wonderful sacrifice and gift if we only accept and profess…..

  • Roger M. Johnson

    God helps those who help themselves…

    • GSOB

      Where is that verse?

      • Graham

        Under the chapter called “Common Sense”.

        • GSOB

          Oh yes,

          The typical book for those not being sanctified in Christ.

          Thanks

  • writeheiney

    The Holy Bible (as you pointed out) has numerous references to societal collapses and the consequences of “government” abuse of its citizens. I am at a stage in my life where I write off those who wish to live in a “godless” world – which as your blog also points out, is a world of irrational madness. America today is like Judah and Israel of the Old Testament. Decaying, Perverted. Irrational. The Economic Collapse Blog is probably the best source of information, recording the step-by-step collapse of a once great nation. It is full of Godly Wisdom and discernment.

  • janedough1

    As recently as sixty years ago, this would have been a ridiculous discussion. When we were an agrarian society, at the end of the year you simply had a year’s worth of food in the house and barn. Its just the farm year cycle. You grew your garden, your grain and your livestock. You preserved your vegetables by canning and drying. You put up your grain in the barn or granary and had some ground at the mill. You stocked up potatoes, carrots and cabbages in the root cellar. You butchered a hog and salted and smoked it.

    Its only been in the last sixty years that there has been such a thing as a supermarket in which to buy your food. It is amazing to me how quickly buying food at the supermarket has become normal, and having food in the house has become abnormal. Growing and storing your own food requires faith in God. Rains might not come. You are dependent on God’s providence. Buying all your food means you are putting your faith in the grocery store and the food distribution system instead of God. How can you sell that as faith?

    • GSOB

      “How can you sell that as faith?”

      Faith does not necessarily exclude
      inconveniences.

  • jakartaman

    I have a sister who is very strong in faith.
    She is always asking me why am I preparing – Don’t you have faith GOD will take care of you like the birds of the field.
    Great article and right on
    Thanks for the rienforcement

  • James

    Michael,

    I don’t mean to try and contradict you but as I am one of the few lucky ones who still has some disposable income I have a question. I am taking a vacation to Navoo and the hotels are all completely booked just like the area I was planning to go for Christmas if why is the hotel industry still doing well in this economic collapse?

    • GSOB

      Because it’s a major LDS hub?

  • Patrick

    I’ll point out a hard truth about the parable of the Ten Virgins; the five wise were not considered wise solely because they were prepared-they were wise because they also recognized that if they shared what little they had, there would not have been enough for themselves, but also there still would not have been enough for the five foolish ones.

    This doesn’t mean charity is discouraged, but that the time may come when very hard choices may have to be made and wisdom will have to be exercised.

    I have made great sacrifices to be able to lay in store for the future, all the while encouraging others I care about to do the same. If they refuse to listen to me and refuse to reduce by even a small bit their $200 a month St@rbuck’s habit, am I on the hook to provide for them? I think not. I may choose to be charitable, but as a Watchman, my primary work is done before the crisis, not after.

    Many people have listened to my warnings and afterward whispered amongst themselves “well, if it happens the way he says it will, I’ll just go to his house”. And that’s why I also lay in store small rubbermaid containers and bottled water; to hand out a few pounds of rice, a gallon of water, wish them well, and send them away.

    “If any provide not for his own, specially they that be of his own house, he is worse than an infidel and hath denied the faith.” So I’ll provide for my own, can’t make any promises beyond that…

  • North of the 52

    Hello Michael,
    You are doing us all a big favor with your commentary and fact gathering. You are wise to be pleading with people to prepare! get ready! watch out!
    In a world where people are horribly skeptical about practically everything you say, you are starting to wonder if anybody is listening or cares. Some people will not believe you when you say their house is on fire until the flames are licking at their feet.
    You will have done practically all that was possible to reach the people by that time which sane people know is near.
    I will speak for a remnant of your audience and say WE believe you. Your efforts are not in vain! We appreciate your hard work.
    Most governments tell people to be prepared for natural disasters and look how many do nothing at all for the future.
    I thank you for your dedication, preaching even to those that deliberately ignore your warnings.
    In the wise words of a Russian commander, be careful to watch out for prolonged frustration as it is hard on the well-being, for it affects your perception and judgement.
    Some refuse to face reality, and you will wear yourself out screaming at them.
    Even Jesus took time for Himself to be alone with the Father. When He climbed the mountains to pray He could get a better vantage point and hear
    the Spirit without the clamor of the crowds.
    The bible is the ultimate preparedness handbook!

    We need you frosty and on your game.
    Thanks again!

  • Susan Jones

    I agree….too bad Im pretty much dirt poor and really CANT prepare…but I take heart in the fact that they will most likely kill me….

  • Fortitude

    I read your blog regularly, but did not know that you were a Christian. I rejoice in hearing this news!

    Preparing for the future, as you pointed out in your article, is very Biblical. In Proverbs 6:6-11, God says,”[6] Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise:[7] Which having no guide, overseer, or ruler, [8] Provideth her meat in the summer, and gathereth her food in the harvest. [9] How long wilt thou sleep, O sluggard? when wilt thou arise out of thy sleep? [10] Yet a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to sleep:[11] So shall thy poverty come as one that travelleth, and thy want as an armed man.

    This is a lesson lost to those want to be taken care of by the state instead of relying on God to provide the opportunities to work, doing their part for their needs. Instead, we have too many who have “wants” instead.

  • SuperKrazykiki

    I have been wondering about this also…I have prayed and ask the Lord to show me that I should not prepare…He hasn’t and I have to believe that He would expect me to do my part as long as I can…

  • Richard Madsen

    I heard a phrase repeatedly as I was growing up:

    “The lord helps those that help themselves”

    Meaning if you do the work and planning to survive, The Lord will help you. Conversely, if you won’t help yourself then you cannot count on The Lord to provide that which you should have provided. He won’t tend your garden, your animals, or your pantry if you do nothing.

  • WordNU .

    Excellent article. I’m a Christian and haven’t done anything to “prep” at this point. Until now, I have leaned more toward the “trust God” side; however, I must say I agree with all of the points you’ve made here and I’m definitely going to rethink my position. There’s just something about the “spirit” of prepping that still bothers me. I think it’s the defense aspect of prepping that doesn’t sit right with me (ie. arming to the teeth). How do we reconcile that with Luke 6:29 “…and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.”. But then again, the foolish virgins were out of luck for not being ready so maybe that’s just the way it’s supposed to be. Perhaps that is where trusting God comes into play. In other words, we should stock up and prepare but trust that God will ensure that our provisions will be adequate to cover our needs. Personally, I’m hoping to be raptured out of here before things get too ugly so they can have anything I’ve stocked up. Anyway, thanks for the article. It’s definitely thought provoking.

  • Deana

    Martian Luther said to do as if everything depends on you, but pray as if everything you are doing depends on God. God gave us logical thinking brains for a reason, skills and talents for a reason. We must use them in life to help ourselves, our family, friends and others that God places in our path. May God help and Bless all of us in our quests in life.

  • Boo-urns

    “Is It “Anti-Faith” To Prepare For The Coming Economic Collapse?”

    No, but it’s anti-smart to rely on faith to prepare. Sorry folks, ancient mythology and fables from another millennium aren’t going to save you, no matter how sore your knees are.

    • jaxon64

      yawn…couldn’t resist trolling some hatred hunh?

      Ephesians 4:18- They are darkened in their understandings and seperated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to the hardening of their heart.

      Romans 1:26- They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshipped and sethings rather than the Creator ( can you say darwinists?)

      Psalm 14:1- The fool says in his heart, “There is no God”

      Romans 1:20-For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities- His eternal power and divine nature- have been clearly seen, being understood by what has been made, so that men are without excuse..

      2 Peter 3:3- …….that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires……..

      • jaxon64

        Romans 1:25 reads–” they exchanged the truth of God for a lie; and worshipped and served created things rather than the Creator….

        Sometimes when I am typing on this site if a new comment pops up I’ll lose a sentence or two of text I’ve written…..

      • Boo-urns

        Ancient fables written by men who had no other rational explanation for the world around them. Wake up.

  • uh-huh

    Michael: Just because a man such as your email person claims to have “faith,” do not actions speak louder than words?. It is a lazy person who does not work to prepare. There is NOWHERE in the Bible that states it is okay to sit back and the Lord handle everything:

    James 2:14-26

    King James Version (KJV)

    14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

    15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,

    16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?

    17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

  • tfb

    Reminds me of a story a preacher told me about a guy who drowned in a flood after not getting in a van, a boat, or a helicopter. He gets to heaven and asks God why he had to die. God replies, I sent a van, a boat, and a freakin helicopter, why didn’t you use them?

  • k9style

    A prudent person foresees danger and takes precautions.
    The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.

  • Paul

    Joseph prepared Egypt for the seven years of bad during the seven years of good–was he ‘anti-faith’? No. By faith, he knew to prepare. If you know a storm is coming, do you stand in the way of the storm and wait for YAHWEH, our TRUE LIVING GOD of Israel, to move you? No, by understanding you realize you must take shelter or bare the consequences. But many believe that only in ‘other parts’ of the world do dangerous storms affect people, and not them. As long as people have their ‘comfort zone’, they will refuse to listen, and when that comfort zone is taken away they might cry woe is them.

  • Gary Bertnick

    Good word from a true friend. Thanks

  • DamDoc

    The lord helps those who help themselves!

    • GSOB

      Oh brother

  • DamDoc

    As I recall, didn’t Noah build an arc?

  • Rodney Wimberly Sr

    Michael,

    Rodney Wimberly here, I had the privilege of interviewing you a few years ago. What an outstanding, and timely, article. Something many of us Christians are struggling with.

    Whether others agree with you or not, there is no reason to doubt your sincerity or how well thought out your opinion is.

    Keep up the good work!

    LiveFree

    Rodney

  • Eleazar

    What you say is true, however, I want to add one little caveat, if you will. You can warn those you love the most about what is coming. You can show them the signs, and do your best to “get prepared” but if those you love the most are actively working against you…what is a person to do?

  • Washington76

    The US’s advantage throughout the post-War years was its dollar reserve currency; US officials could fund deficit spending by printing dollars without generating price inflation. Countries around the world had to hold dollars because they needed dollars to buy oil.

    This system is changing now. The dollar is under attack by the BRICs, specifically by the Chinese and Russians, and it seems clear the world community wants to move to something else as the world’s major financial support.John Maynard Keynes dreamt of a world currency and so does the IMF that supports its Special Drawing Rights as a potential replacement for the dollar.

    The US in particular will not benefit from ever-more globalized fiat money. What the US needs is a stiff dose of freedom: fewer taxes, less regulation and, above all, the re-imposition of the kind of free-banking system that served the nation well prior to the Civil War. Money needs to be competitive, not monopolized by a clique of central bankers.

    Those running the system obviously know it is not working, just as they know what would fix it. But they do not seem to care. If anything, they seem to actively wish for things to get worse – to further impose socialism and globalism on the suffering West.

    I’d characterize this not as a rational strategy but as a kind of “grand illusion.” Look around the world from Southern Europe to Africa to the Middle East to Brazil and even China, and one can see growing signs of violent disturbances. These have not yet reached the US but civil protests are growing there, as well.

    Proponents are supporting a flawed sociopolitical and economic methodology that can yield explosions they will perhaps not be able to control. Egypt may only prove the latest example. This is the danger that lies beyond the numbers and is not often discussed with the seriousness it deserves.

    • Gay Veteran

      “re-imposition of the kind of free-banking system that served the nation well prior to the Civil War”

      A lot of those banks failed, and the depositors lost their money. What we need is the banking system FDR set up: heavily regulated

  • Cindy

    If most Americans identify themselves with being a christian why are there so many rude people on our roadways?

    Oh yes the answer to so called christians behaving badly is free will (which is nowhere in the bible).

    The truth is if the holy spirit did indeed all of a sudden take up residence in a christians heart and soul when they accepted Jesus in their hearts our society should be the best of the best.

    Yet we are not. I believe that people can choose to act according to Godly things and intentions or hellish and evil things and intentions.

    That duality is evident in human society, nature and animal. You cannot have good without evil.

    Perhaps we are all reading the bible wrong. Maybe it was never intended for modern society but rather only for the people of the time when it was written.

    • Graham

      A very wisely worded and meaningful post Cindy. You seem to be well in tune with “reality” and likely at peace within your own mind.

  • Patrick

    Actually this person has got it backwards.

    Anti Faith to be ready?

    The Bible says that at the 6th trump the (Anti) instead of christ will come.

    At this time people will whoreafter this instead of christ because they will think it is in fact him(Christ).

    So people will buy into this Anti Christ’s message which means you will have to use the “currency” to purchase what you need. What will this “currency” be?

    Who know’s…….but the ones with real “faith” knowing that the Anti Christ comes first will be the ones that have prepared and have precious metals so that they may barter for what they need.

    This way not having to fall victim to the new “currency” and whoreing after the Anti Christ.

    So to answer your question…..are you Anti Faith?

    I say not a chance if anything your acting as God would have you to….being prepared and knowing who comes back first and what is and will go down at the end of this age.

    Stay Thirsty for Knowledge My Friends

  • Heretic

    Michael, I have been where you are now. If your pursuit for the truth is strong, you will eventually need to consider the real gospel of the Christ. It was his message that was the good news, not him. He proclaimed to the people of his time that they could never be separate from the true Creator, no matter what. Original sin was and is a lie, and no matter how many tithes they paid, or animals they sacrificed, or laws they observed, they could never fix the lie they were consenting to. They had denied their birthright because of a lie.

    The same people that are running the economic chaos today are the same ones telling the same lies about everything, as in the times of Noah, as in the time of the last Christ… politics, economics, science, and yes, religion.

    The Christ was not the son of YHWH. He came to destroy the systems of YWHW. Your answers will not be found in a book. As it was then, so it is now.

    • Graham

      You have just uncovered one of the “greatest deceptions” of all time, including how it is playing out to this day and by who.

      The truth also lies in the 50 miles of sealed vaults at the Vatican. I find it astounding how others cannot join all the visible dots that stare them in the face.

      They also miss the true meaning of the term “G-d” in written form. In fact they never seem to question it, yet their ultimate “prize” lies in the very country whose “globally based” citizens use it.

      The known genealogy verifies everything. If I go any further it will be “censored”.

    • Mondobeyondo

      Christ himself said He was the son of YHWH (Jehovah, God). Many, many times in the New Testament.

      And God the Father confirmed it.

      “This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased” (Matthew 3:17, among other verses)

      He did not come into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. Read John 3:17.

      • Graham

        The New Testament? That says it all. What was said in the original teachings, writings and scriptures?

        The New Testament became just that for a reason. The answers, although already evident, will reveal themselves to all in due course.

      • Heretic

        May be time for you to look into the cannon’s origins.

  • ForJESUS

    I applaud what you are doing. I am in my 60’s & have done financial planning in the past. One of favorite saying was that there are those who plan for what happens & those that wonder what happened? I too am a Christian & have encountered people who say that GOD will take care of us. But they fail to read the entire context of the Bible where GOD outlines our responsibilities. A lot of GOD’s promises are conditional, i.e. HE will prosper IF we obey him. This is not an automatic. That is why in the final judgement, I think many Christians will be surprised at the end results. I have seen people come back to life after being sheeted for 45 minutes (Code Blue) & other miracles. This is documented in Hawaii.

  • jim_robert

    One other relevant verse: Luke 22:36-37
    “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword , sell your cloak and buy one.”

    Clearly, the implications of this are consistent with what is written above.

  • Patriot Alice

    I know someone who’s been storing prep food for 25 years.. Should he continue to buy more prep food? Doesn’t the can food, etc. go bad? I think he is wasting his money….

    • K

      It is according to what he is storing. Number 10 cans of freeze dried food, can be good up to 30 years. As to most anything else, yeah 25 years is too long in my opinion. Are you sure they are not rotating their stock?

      • Mark Caldwell

        I buy new regularly and eat my oldest prep food. It’s delicious. :)

  • r.bitting

    I don’t have a problem with folks prepping, But I have been reading your blog long enough to know without a doubt that there a some ” Christians ” who post here regularly who have elevated the mindset of a survivalist above having love for their neighbors. ” And because eniquity will abound, the love of many will grow cold”. God is judging this nation for it’s rejection of Him as God ( Romans 1 ). While I agree that God would want his people to prepare, I sense that many here are ultimately trusting in their provision to save them, and by many I’m referring to Christians. They will forget Jesus’s command to love one another, and turn on their neighbor. This will prove to be tragic. Others will see this calamity as an opportunity to show the light of Christ to a world in chaos, not loving Thiers lives to the death, and God will use these saints in a mighty way. Think of your preparation as a future ministry, and store up for yourselves treasure in Heaven.

  • Sophia

    Why bother? The FEMA camps will take you as they take your food. Futile! Truth hurts!

    • webfulfill

      You can bury yourself underground and also the food, so that even dogs won’t detect it. If you can hold up 6 months this way, you will outlast them.

  • Melanie Sue Lynch-Evans

    we have tried to prepare but we are renters and without our own property. it is senseless to have a huge portable garden with no where to transfer it. we keep eating the things we have put back and back in 2o11 started the couponing and stacking food that expired. Also i felt like the old testament manna story a little…i felt greedy. if u dont own land, just what can you move if it all comes crashing down? Our landlord just lost our rental house which will be sold in two weeks. we now have to come up wiyh moving expenses. Great article but times are very difficult. be sure you are thankful you have the ability to prep. i already feel blindsided.

  • Mark Caldwell

    It is insulting to be accused of a lack of faith simply for preparing for the inevitable consequences of corruption and malfeasance.

    I suppose a Christian explorer should take no sword or provision, simply rely on divine providence to ward of every feral animal you encounter and shower you with rain on regular intervals so you may drink.

  • faded

    Proverbs 6:6

    New International Version (NIV)

    6 Go to the ant, you sluggard;
    consider its ways and be wise!
    At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Five of them were foolish and five were wise. 3 The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them. 4 The wise ones, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps. 5 The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep.

    6 “At midnight the cry rang out: ‘Here’s the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!’

    7 “Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps. 8 The foolish ones said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.’

    9 “‘No,’ they replied, ‘there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.’

    10 “But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut.

    11 “Later the others also came. ‘Lord, Lord,’ they said, ‘open the door for us!’

    12 “But he replied, ‘Truly I tell you, I don’t know you.’

    13 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour.

    Proverbs 22:3 NIV

    New International Version

    A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.

    I think all Christians should prep seeing as if the mark of the beast does show up your not caught with your pants down. Because No man can Buy or sell without that mark.

  • LifeLongLearner71

    Thank You Michael for what you are doing. You are fulfilling a great need in the world. Many blessings to you!

  • JustanOguy

    I wouldn’t get too worked up over an Obamamaniac that thinks Pres. Obama is the Messiah and we are all in good hands if we just all go along with his plans. ;)

    • Mondobeyondo

      But what God was Jim Jones following?

  • JayJay

    I Timothy 5:8….Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

  • http://www.endtimesandwar.com Joshua Marks

    I was brought directly to the established and firm ground of St. Thomas Aquinas:

    “Supernatural revelation (faith) and natural revelation (reason) are complementary rather than contradictory in nature, for they pertain to the same unity: truth.”

    Truth. It is an expression of unity (e.g., Tri-unity). There is no element inside or outside of the cosmos that exists outside of this framework. Only deception, and all of deception, resides outside of this domain and expression of the unity of Truth – and ultimately deception is rooted in something other than unity. And in the pursuit of the footsteps of Truth… there requires an integrated natural and supernatural “revelation.” Reason is a necessary and complimentary (integral) component, and when infused with Life, transcends rationality.

    The revelation of God is all around us. His revelation is manifest in the life of every living crefature, the infinite complexity of the depth of the microcosm, the immeasurable expanse of the telecoms, the hearts of man, and the Holy Scriptures. Spiritually, God’s antidote to complexity is simplicity: Love your God (Creator) with all your heart, mind, and soul. Love others equally as you love yourself. Pray, “Thy Will be done.”

    We are surrounded by… stuffed with… and tattooed in… God’s revelation. His Spirit lives within us, and his creation reveals His handiwork. And, most of us now have personal hardcopies of Scripture in probably more than one translation.

    To the degree we are properly focused, we are absolutely assured in God Almighty’s support and affirmation – we are pursuing the story He attempted to communicate and point to from within the Pentateuch, through His prophets, is reported to have addressed in First-Person, is a topic of His Apostles, a “canon” book of Scripture detailing the “vision” of John, and topic of commentary from within the deepest reaches of the modern church. We are meant to be asking these questions, discerning our belief, and to move forward in faith and courage.

    God wants us to know the unity and wholeness of the expression of His revelation – He is the one that provides it, He is the One that has revealed it, and he is the One that embodies it – literally embodying all of what He Himself has to say, becoming The Word that is the revelation incarnate, as flesh… and named “Jesus.”

    This is a powerful and strong foundation on which all of Christendom is anchored. And it is a foundation on which we can contemplate these many seeming “externalities” of our faith – these many “words” which we can struggle to know how to integrate, these “inputs” that are commonly tagged with “gods word,” “prophetic,” or otherwise branded somehow with spiritual, personal and urgent significance.

    1. The truth is unified. We are given the integrated and full toolbox of reason and supernatural revelation – and they are complimentary, pertaining to the same unity: Truth.
    2. We are drenched in God’s revelation – and His revelation is manifest in truth.
    3. God is, and always has been, actively engaged in revealing His Story – from ancient times to present. When looking at the Tree of Life, whether we study the fallen leaves or those emerging from the branch, we do so in pursuit of knowing the nature and value of the tree, not the leaves themselves.

    My reflection and amplification in the context of your notes is for us to look for the the coherence and wholeness in all that we consider as a part of the potential “fingerprint” of God. All of creation sings out in a harmonic resonance of this same unity of truth. What do our texts point to if anything within our modern and immediate context? How confidently can we proclaim knowing the intimacy of His Word in our time? Is there a “piercing cry for peace” throughout the world that we hear resonating from within the harmonies of His Chorus? Is the face of our Lord revealed and His Word being spoken from within the suffering children of poverty, the war battles encroaching on holy land, the shadow work of global powers…? Am I adding my voice… and is it spoken with clarity and in harmony as a portion of this coherence of truth? Do we see a “unique” assault on Truth today – does deception move in a coordinated and strategic ways that effectively “cloud” what is otherwise quite clear? What can we do in our fellowship(s) to shine bright light on this encroaching shadow of darkness?

    These are meditations and prayers that immediately come to mind from within this topic of “faith and preparation.”

    I want to suggest that there is great clarity in the revelation which we have been invited into and drenched in by Him. I am quite “skeptical” of all the many modern day “prophets” and “seers” – and generally see little “value-add”… Many time the casual passing of “anointed words” seems out of place with the sacred… But regardless, in the process of discernment, we can know that there is no word from Him that is outside of the unity of truth – and we have been given the full compliment and rigor of “natural reason” as tools in our pursuit of revelation of this truth!

    This essay and the blog of Economic Collapse stands as a resource for those evaluating truth in this special time and preparing for tribulation.

  • Hammerstrike

    I rather think it is anti-Darwinian, lol!

    Srs, the Grand Architect of the Cosmos help those who help themselves, not those who refuses to help themselves.

  • Prepper

    It’s surprising to me that Michael is so smart when it comes to economics but then when it comes to the Bible… Maybe its just a cultural thing in the states.

    • GSOB

      That’s real cute there Prepper,

      Knowing the bible is indeed a good thing – however, you should also know – if you are not made righteous in Christ, that knowledge won’t save you.

      • Prepper

        I know the Bible very well as I studied it for quite a few years, including the many interpretations of it. It also helps to have a wider understanding of biology, the history of human culture and psychology.

  • John Walton

    you forgot the other words of Jesus that say “lay not up for yourself treasures on earth, where moth and rust does corrupt and where theives break through and steal”.. my thinks too many preppers are not putting the spiritual preparation FIRST and listening to too much alex jones paranoia, thinking carnal things will save their butts when the time or trial comes.. ask yourself, when christians were getting hauled to the roman arenas and being fed to the lions, do you think they were prepping up victuals and weapons and treasures of this earth? maybe they did lay up things, but I doubt very much it was like this pictures where people spend 100,000 dollars on food and make a supermarket out of their basements.. that is not trusting in God anymore, sorry.

    • GSOB

      John Walton,

      What is trusting in God for you could very well be not what trusting in God is for others.

      The verses you refer to are out of context.

      You need to balance your interpretation with the rest of scripture, many verses which have already been quoted here.

      Here is some help:

      (Quoted – from Matthew Henry’s commentary)

      “Christ counsels to make our best things the joys and glories of the other world, those things not seen which are eternal, and to place our happiness in them.

      There are treasures in heaven.
      It is our wisdom to give all diligence to make our title to eternal life sure through Jesus Christ, and to look on all things here below, as not worthy to be compared with it, and to be content with nothing short of it. It is happiness above and beyond the changes and chances of time, an inheritance incorruptible. The worldly man is wrong in his first principle; therefore all his reasonings and actions therefrom must be wrong.”

      In essence, Jesus was alluding to salvation, which he would provide.

      Where your treasure is, your heart will be – so seek the Lord continually…
      All the day’s of your life

    • Mondobeyondo

      John,
      Sometimes I too have been torn by that verse. But you know what? How much of your earthly wealth do you take with you when you die? Not one red cent (or one wooden nickel, if you prefer.)

      On one hand: Storing up food is not true faith in the Biblical perspective. True faith is – oh, read Hebrews 11:1 to know what faith is. Abraham had it. Noah had it. Peter, to an extent, had it. He walked on water alongside Jesus on the Sea of Galilee. David had it. Jesus lived it. I’m not ashamed to admit, I don’t have it. Most of you don’t have it.

      Trusting your Citibank account to provide you with lobster in your time of need – you are trusting yourself to provide for your needs, not God. That is a fatal flaw. Don’t trust yourself. You can’t do it all by yourself. Trust God! That is the very essence of faith – trusting God!

      On the other hand, you cannot please God without faith. (Hebrews 11:6) Faith is what pleases God. That’s hard for most of us to accept. Not because we don’t think it’s true, but because of what we’ll have to give up to accomplish the goal.

      I have no other hands. Sorry. Only got 2 hands to work with.

  • Chris I.

    This reminds me of an old story. A family surrounded by rising flood waters has climbed to their roof. A boat comes by and offers help. They decline saying “No thanks, God will save us.” The second boat to pass hears the same answer as does the third boat. As the flood waters overtake them they look to God asking ” Why didn’t you save us? ” to which of course God answers, “I tried three times.”. I think the moral is God expects us to be prudent and use common sense. You don’t have to be a full scale prepper to be wise and be prepared for disaster. Compare it to buying insurance, locking your doors at night, taking medicine, etc. God helps those who help themselves…

  • Joe D

    I’m a Christian and a Catholic. I keep an umbrella in my trunk.

  • davidbyrden

    So you’re “anti faith” because you don’t believe in the same things as that guy?
    What a self-centered person.
    Suppose you drank a different brand of beer to him/her. Would they call you “anti beer”?

  • Fran

    Very well stated, Michael. I have been a regular visitor to this site for some time now and appreciate your hard work to spread warning to as many who want to listen. The Noah, Joseph, etc. situations clearly support your efforts. Keep it up!

  • Neither Nor

    God helps those who help themselves

    • Mondobeyondo

      The vast majority sit back and say “Let God help me”, while they do nothing. Kick back, eat grapes and so forth.

      Sorry, you guys. This isn’t the Garden of Eden anymore.

  • Mondobeyondo

    To make it through the days ahead, you are going to need supernatural help. There is only so much one person, or a group of people, will be able to do. You can stockpile food, gold, silver, lead (bullets), etc, but remember the Source.

    Sit back and relax, this is gonna be long.

    “The silver is mine, and the gold is mine, saith the Lord of hosts” (Haggai 2:9, KJV). God owns the cattle on a thousand hills. God owns the HILLS! People say that this is Satan’s world, and they are right. It IS Satan’s world – for now. The devil is in control (“it’s Satan’s world, we’re just living in it”), but God is in command. The devil rules the world – for now. God rules the universe. He is in command of Mars, Venus, Jupiter, every galaxy, nebula, comet and meteor… There is NOTHING Satan can do without God’s permission. Don’t believe it? Read Job, chapters 2 and 3. God tells the devil what to do. Satan’s not allowed to put a hand on Job’s person (Job 1:12). Later, God places poor Job under Satan’s control – BUT the devil isn’t allowed to take Job’s life (Job 2:6)

    Read Job 38 through 42 too. This is what God can do. It’s a long list. God rained fire from heaven on disobedient cities long before nuclear weapons were cool. He can do the same today, and it’s only by His divine mercy that he hasn’t yet done so.

    My suggestion as a Christian: (and if you didn’t know I am a Christian by now, well now you do!): Pray daily for guidance, for courage and faith in the days ahead, and for your daily bread. Never take God for granted, for as the Apostle Paul said “It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God” (Hebrews 10:31)

    Okay, sermon over! Hey, it’s Sunday morning, what did you expect?!

  • Mondobeyondo

    Jesus plainly explains, “I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No man comes to the Father, but by Me: (John 14:6)

    There’s several things you can take away from that verse:

    – Jesus was a hypocrite
    – Jesus was a liar (He was lying when he said he was the way, the truth, etc)
    – Jesus really was Who he said He was

  • anon

    I once heard a joke, and it went something like this:

    A man desperately wanted to win the lottery, so the following week, just before the lottery draw, he prayed to God for help, to win the lottery. That week’s lottery draw came by, but the man didn’t win it.

    The following week, the man prayed to God again, asking for His help to win the lottery. The second week’s lottery draw came by, but the man didn’t win it again.

    On the third week, the man prayed even harder to God, asking for His help to win the lottery. The third week’s lottery draw came by, and the man, once again, did not win the lottery.

    This time, the man asked God, “why oh why… do you not help me to win the lottery, oh God?”. The man then waited for God’s answer…

    Suddenly, clouds gathered, and a thunderous voice came bellowing out…saying, “My son…if you want me to help you, then you have to at least buy a ticket”.

    The above joke pretty much encapsulates the absurdity of any Christian’s concern that “preppers” are “anti-faith”.

    If you do not have faith in yourself, do you actually believe that God would have faith in you?

  • Not paying taxes

    I Thought one CEO once said that the banksters were doing God’s work…

    As I am an atheist, I prefer to be prepared and keep faith in gold and silver.

    • Graham

      That would be “G-d’s” work you speak of. Entirely different thing but plausible enough to deter your average “unconscious” being from asking why the “o” is missing.

  • Rebel

    As a fellow Christian, I totally agree with the way you see things.
    However. For the others who believe differently. I guess the scriture “…hast thou faith? Have it to thyself before God…” (Rom 14:22) Applies.

  • http://lastdayrapture.blogspot.com/2011/08/jesus-said-at-last-day.html TK

    Missy,

    Thank you, that is a great video.

  • Graham

    Nice to meet you Miranda… in electronic form :).

    I”m the “off his rocker” poster who is motivated by nature to “sometimes” make others think a little bit deeper and consider other possibilities and/or concepts. One’s that have been well researched and/or experienced first hand.

    Behind a successful man, there is often a strong woman. The blog’s success speaks for itself.

    Tip:-
    Get more of the truth “winning” in the other one! It gets a bit desolate in their and there is plenty to expose.

  • mijj

    faith or gnosis?

    Be guided by faith in the assertions of individuals or institutions, or be guided by personal experience, doubt, and tests? How did science make it’s progress?

    If it wasn’t for Thomas and his test, the disciples would have followed anyone asserting they were the savior.

    An honest man doesn’t expect to be trusted. (Eg. an honest man doesn’t expect to be regarded as infallible. Nor does an honest man assume perfect communication). Any person or institution that demands faith should be regarded as pulling a confidence trick.

  • gfmucci

    Yes, let God and let go. Ahaa. Yup, that is really what God expects of us – pray our way to safety and while we do nothing ourselves to help it happen? BS!! People who cling to that belief system are ripe for socialism and communism – rely on someone else, a government or a god to take care of them while they sit back and do nothing. I. Don’t. Think. So. Actually that is quite stupid.

    Though not Mormon at the moment, I believe this is good theology for any Christian, one of their favorite expressions is:

    “For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.”

    While this applies to salvation, it is also applicable to prepping: “For we labor diligently to prepare, to persuade others to prepare while we trust in Christ to save us, AFTER ALL WE CAN DO.

    I firmly believe we have a key role in our diligent prepping, relying on ourselves to the extent of our capacity, while at the same time relying on God for the things that are beyond our capacity, whether it be salvation or survival.

  • Graham

    By the year 2014, if not sooner, I hope you purchase a calculator in order to aide your inaccuracy in handling facts.

  • Karyn

    The Lord looks at our hearts. If we hoard with a motive of feeding only ourself… that is wrong. If we prepare based upon the motive of sharing (stockpile Bibles too!) and sharing the wonderful gospel good news of Jesus, He will bless our motive. Meanwhile, train! I am in a scripture memory group once a week. Another group I am in prays for our community, churches, schools. If you use the “day” to train to be salt and light with likeminded believers, the Lord WILL use you! He is sooo good! I believe a rich harvest is coming where disciplined believers willingly give up our stuff as workers in His amazing harvest and are amazed by His provision for us through daily bread! Both the sheep and goats say “Lord when did we feed etc. YOU?” The sheep say it in humility and the goats in pride. Matthew 25.

    • MichaelfromTheEconomicCollapse

      Memorizing Scripture is a great thing to do. :)

      Michael

      • Karyn

        Thanks Michael! I really appreciate your posts and read them all. I do believe we have to prepare in EVERY way; spiritually emotionally, physically. My verse this week is 2 Timothy 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind – (some versions say discipline). The ability to walk in the power of the Holy Spirit by faith not by sight is going to be crucial in the days ahead. But His Word is a lamp and light, instructing us which way to go and what to do. Memorizing scripture now or storing Bibles now-because the famine won’t just be food (Amos 8)

  • Hans Zandvliet

    Noah built his Ark high and dry as well, while everybody around him thought has had become mad. Of course, Noah had the advantage (at least in hindsight, as recorded in Genesis) that he had received a message from god to do so.

    So maybe we can settle the preppers’ case that they’re acting on a message from god as well, a message other faithfuls refuse to heed. Anyway, who could determine the veracity of such a new message from god anyway? Case closed.

    • Brenda (and Charlie)

      That is the bottom line for me … are they being directed by God to do so or not? I can only wonder: Are they even looking around at the signs before them and asking for wisdom from above anew, day by day? Are they walking in presumption or obedience, as Father may have another plan for their life at this time?

      Truly, just because others hear the call to do so and tell them, does not mean they are being told themselves. BUT I would think it would cause them to AT THE LEAST seek God as to whether He is speaking to them through the other person or not. We are not to be man pleasers and do something because another is doing it or telling them to; we are to at least step back and consider afresh, so we don’t come from preconditioning that may come from carnal thinking alone. For them to step out in fear and not obedient faith could very well be part of their spiritual lesson, one of teaching them to hear His Voice for themselves, in their present.

      In 1989 just before it began to come to pass, among other things the Spirit of God burned this message into my heart: ‘I am going to pick you up and put you in the Country and teach you to live off the land because hard times are coming. I will be doing this for others as well as I shake that which is shakable. You will become spiritual City’s of Refuge.

      I will be putting pressure on the Global Economy. In the doing I will expose corruption in the Kingdoms of the world; the Kingdom of Finance and Economics, Religion and Politics, Health and Welfare, Entertainment and Education being only a few of them.

      Globally the unredeemed nature will be exposed, giving all the opportunity to look at their own hearts and the choices they are making. This is only part of what will bring about the greatest Spiritual Renaissance since the acts of Pentecost.

      YOU are not to go after money, if someone offers to pay for your abilities you may receive it as a blessing. Ask Me how to spend it for it may not be for you but another. Simply, give of yourself with a generous heart. Live a modest lifestyle. Your husband will be ingenious by way of example for others. Go with My flow and do what YOUR hand finds to do with a knowing I am in control … all is unfolding according to My eternal Plan. See through My eyes of Eternity.

      Your experiences will become stories to share of My provision and how I brought it about and the lessons you both learned in the process. Trust Me completely. Surrender all into My care. Enter into My Rest.’

      I was moved to stock up … to live a debt free frugal life style, leaning on our Father for His daily direction. I do not consider myself to be a Prepper, just someone who has been trained to live off the land if need be and share of our Bounty while we set aside for what is yet to take place. We are taking it a day at a time as we ponder over what is unfolding in our life and around us globally in light of the above words from God and that which took place afterwards. Wondering what our part will be as His plan continues to unfold. Surely we can at least teach others what we have learned as they learn to use wisdom and trust our Father with what will transpire next. The main issue is spiritual… not fleshly. Trusting Him with or without money … can we do it? Only walking it out will show us…

  • tinyzoo

    May the Lord BLESS YOU for posting this! I started feeling the Lord telling me to store up some extra provisions about a year ago. I never used to be one to store up extra. But this compulsion from the Lord was so compelling I started to feel like a squirrel gathering nuts for winter! Yet just like you I’ve had people accuse me of being fearful, or lacking faith. I do not feel afraid. I just feel like God has told me to do something and I should do it! I feel like God has given me a window of opportunity to prepare for something that is to come. I don’t know when it will come or how bad it will be or if I will even be able to save up enough (I don’t have a lot of familial support on this effort – they want to eat up everything I buy as fast as I buy it). Our financial situation is not good. I don’t have the resources to buy all the things I think we will need. But I’m trying as best I am able. I don’t want my family to starve when the crisis comes. Maybe Jesus will take those of us who are saved away from all this, we’re not told for sure the day or the hour or if it will be before or after the great tribulation. (There is a verse that indicates it won’t be until at least middle if not afterward though. Not that I WANT to live through that but I don’t think we get a choice in the matter.) But not all of my family is saved yet. I want them to have provision that will carry them through the difficult times, if possible. At any rate, thank you for gathering together all the scriptures and arguments I’ve thought of (that no one ever wants to listen to) into one place that identify the obedience factor involved in this faith walk. I look forward to meeting you in heaven someday! God bless you! Keep posting encouraging words.

  • FleetingShadow

    I commend you for your dedication; to sit idly by without using the tools we’re born with would be wasteful and careless. With myself, I have resolved in avoidance of persuading naysayers, but instead exert my focus in striking the balance with preparedness and enjoyment of life’s pleasures.

  • Roches

    Michael, Thanks for all the work you do on this blog. It is indeed a warning for those who choose to listen. After a great deal of prayer my wife and I have been directed to purchase land in a specific region away from city centers and produce food. God is moved by faith and we must step out in our faith every once in a while. We have left a good paying jobs and 18 years of service to follow Gods call and to serve Him however we can in the dark days that are coming. While I do not understand Gods purpose in this, I do believe that He is positioning His followers. The signs are out there. For those who are skeptical, accept Jesus as your lord and savior and then ask “Lord what may I do for you?” You will get an answer.

  • Master Reynolds

    Space Jesus isn’t saving anyone. So if your relying on the Magical Savior from outer space your screwed. Prepare, prepare, prepare.

    • Richard T.

      You and I are the ones that can’t save anyone with any amount of prepping. If getting to know God and Jesus isn’t part of your prepping then I fear for your future in eternity.

  • jtbrannigan

    Michael: I read your post everyday. I believe it provides useful and important information. As a Christian, I do not see prepping as a failure to have faith in God’s provision. Nor do I prepare out of a spirit of fear. My sense is that God is calling me and my family to a more sustainable life. One where we rely on Him, through the work of our hands, to live without being dependent on the corrupt and Godless system that has overtaken much of our economy and politics. Prepping is a part of growing into that life. If we have taken steps to receive God’s abundance outside of the present system we will have little to worry about when it is gone.

  • Randy Townsend

    We don’t live in God’s world: That ended with the first humans being evicted from the Garden of Eden. After that, it was pain, trouble, disease, suffering, and death, none of which were to be known by mankind before sin. “If a man will not work, he shall not eat.” 2 Thes 3:10. Prepare all you like: What’s gonna happen is gonna happen. We have NO influence on any of it.

  • The Concerned Citizen

    There once was a huge flood around a Christian’s home. The man, being flooded out, climbed up onto the roof. Some Boy Scouts came along in a row boat and yelled, “Hey Mister! Hop in! We’re headed to the relief center downstream. Our camp was flooded and we’re trying to get back to civilization.”

    The man answer, “No! Its OK! I’m fine. God will take care of me!”

    A few minutes later, some fishermen came along in a bass boad, “Dude! Hop in! We’re headed back home and we’ll give you a ride.”

    “No thank you! God will take care of me. I’m fine.”

    ….the water kept rising.

    Then, overhead, a Coast Guard helicopter hovered overhead, dropped a basked for the man to get in. For nearly half an hour while the man refused to get into the basket.

    Only 1 foot of roof above the rushing waters remained. Eventually, the water rose, washed the man downstream and he died.

    When the man got to heaven, we has very upset, “LORD!!! I had faith in you and you failed me!”

    And The Lord Said, “Sir, I did not fail you! I sent you some Boy Scouts in a row boat, some fishermen in a bass boat and a Coast Guard helicopter, but you refused. So, in the end, your death was your own fault.”

    God helps those who help themselves. Criticism of preppers by so-called “Christians” is out of a massive ignorance fed by a huge case of normalcy bias. Get over it. Frankly, most “Christians” use their faith for profit and so they don’t have to do anything. You won’t find very many true Christians in America anymore. If you do, you find them working their butts off for others. (…or prepping.)

  • Daive

    Michael, I agree wholeheartedly with what you’ve exposed here with only 1 exception: The reference of Matthew 25 I believe has to do with spiritual preparation for the end of the age versus building up storehouses for time of calamity. The promise recorded by John in Revelation to “remove you from the trouble that is coming upon the whole world” does not presuppose severe trials that are just ahead. David Wilkerson once warned that God’s judgments upon nations begin economically. I had a close friend in seminary tell me recently that God’s judgements upon a nation are more a result of the actions of leadership (including the Supreme court, I would assume) than the populace. Keep up the great work. I will await comment.

  • Jonathan

    I have never been to your site (probably because i am not a prepper, or relatively unstimulated by politics and current affairs), but a friend posted a link and i bit. Upon reading your article, i was greatly dismayed at your misuse of the Noah story as well as your misunderstanding of the purpose of holding a job. As i stated before, i am not a prepper, but I am a Christian. I fully understand why people are preppers and I do not think that prepping is necessarily a bad thing. Preparedness, in and of itself, is a virtue, not a sin. However, as is often the case, the motivations that drive our actions are the root of the sinful behavior. I’ll begin by critiquing your Noah correlation. Noah was not the first “prepper”. Noah received a direct revelation from God to build an ark because the flood was coming. Noah was also what we call a prophet, because he was the mouthpiece of God at that time in history, proclaiming that because of the evilness of the world, the Lord was going to judge the world by flood. God, through Noah, was calling the people to repent. The reason this correlation does not make sense today concerning “prepping” is that there isn’t a general revelation to the church, from God, that there is a financial crisis coming, nor is there a call to prep. Noah acted on what God directly told him, while preppers are reacting what they see and “think” or “believe” will happen. These are two totally separate matters. Noah’s actions were “God-centered” and preppers actions are “man centered.” In any of the actions dealing with faith in the bible, the result is always God-centered and God-glorifying, never man-centered.

    Secondly, you stated…

    “What I don’t understand is why any of these Christians that are 100%
    against prepping continue to go to work. If we are to make “no
    provision” for ourselves and simply trust “in God’s providence alone”,
    then why do they need to earn a paycheck? Why can’t they just sit home
    and wait for God to fill up their bank accounts?”

    We go to work because work is a fruit bearing endeavor. Faith is a gift. Faith is also proven by our works. Our works are an expression of that faith. I don’t work to gain faith; i work because i have been gifted faith (Ephesians 2:8-10). Work is a fruit born from faith as is following the commandments, being a good parent or child, helping the poor….the list goes on.

    All this to say, there is nothing wrong with preparing to take care of your family. That is a good thing and can be fruit bearing. The issue comes in with the motivation. The issues comes in when “prepping” becomes and idol. I believe this is what your friend is concerned about. When you take care of your family because you love God, that is right and just. When you spend all your time and money investing into a fortress of solitude, your desire for security (or even your preparedness) becomes the idol. Our first duty as Christians is to be in daily the word, growing in faith and bearing fruit in keeping with repentance. When our man-centered goals slide in and overtake the focus of our lives, repentance must be the next step. If it isn’t, your faith may be in the wrong place. John Calvin once said “The heart is an idol factory” and oh how true those words are.

    • Richard T.

      Indeed everything and anything can become and idol and takes the place of God in our hearts. I think the biggest one of them all is “Self”.

      Indeed, Noah was a prophet and he was instructed by God to prepare for the coming flood. As you may have heard, in our times, there are true prophets also that are sending out warnings and callings of repentance and returning unto the Lord, for a dark dark time is coming! Indeed, it has come already! So it is time to prepare, spiritually and physically. Of course always spiritually first.

      Of course many people prep for different reasons, and many people are sucked in by the idea of prepping. I was one of them, too, that got distracted by this. God in His mercy and grace redirected me to focus on Him and prepare myself for Him. But definitely God has given us the warning, in the Bible about the end times and through many prophets in our age.

  • Ellie

    I started to store up food for the two of us plus 2 dogs with a small reserve for emergency visitors.
    We have a large extended family and I pushed the idea with them that gradual food build-up was a wise thing to do and they all agreed.
    After a couple of years, I took a survey of the hoard of about 30 who descended for Christmas. Not one family had more than a couple of weeks food and quite a few openly said, “Our plan is to come see you when it hits the fan.”
    I’ve since let it be known “the federal emergency is obviously over and I’m using up our stockpile,” we’re back down from 9 months to 4 months supply.

  • Elizabeth

    It is my personal opinion that one must be Biblically ignorant to believe we are not to do what we know to do and what we are able to do in the “natural” (our own abilities, knowledge, talents, and skills in this world) before we expect Holy G-d to take over in the supernatural. I also believe that in every case I can find in the Bible, the humans have been given clear instructions on what they are to do, and when they have acted in full obedience – every i dotted and every t crossed – then, and only then, has Holy G-d taken over and said, “Well done; now, watch and see what the Great I AM shall do on your behalf”. It is only when humans tried to change G-d’s instructions that the promises were not fulfilled in all measure.

    I believe that all knowledge is a gift of Holy G-d; I believe He gave us a brain for a reason, and nowhere does He encourage us to pretend we have no brain – no ability to reason, based on His Word. I believe that when we refuse to use the knowledge that Holy G-d has provided, we greatly insult Him.

    Thank you for being a watchman on the wall; I am with you!

  • LillyBean

    Can someone answer this question?
    If I prep and have no weapon, what’s the point? It will be looted and I have prepped for naught. Okay, so if I get a weapon and kill for my food… is that what God wants me to do???
    I can’t see Jesus sitting infront of his stash with a riffle.

    • Richard T.

      That’s why you need to do what God tells you to do in your situation. If He prompts you to store food, then do that. If He prompts you to get a weapon, then do that.

      Personally I will not kill anyone over anything, but I would use a weapon with the threat of force to scare them away. But that’s my personal conviction.

      That’s why it is so important to know God right now and when things happen, we can hear from Him and know what to do.

  • thedocisin

    James 2;14

    14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and
    one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but
    you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

  • motorsportsnz

    Yes our Father works with us. I will continue to step out and be a doer and I know He will be where I step out in faith. I do not hold to building ourselves stockades and arming ourselves. I hold to having sufficient nouse to store a bit if food and water warm clothing etc keeping it simple.
    Trust in God let your heart not be afraid.

  • Adolphusw

    A very good article, and a very Biblical one. Burying your head in the sand and using God simply as an escape valve in the face of obvious warnings is not a display of faith, but of sloth, disrespect to God as well as disobedience.

    I am a Christian and nearly all of my extended family are Christians. I have a sister and niece who think my prepping is silly. They say that if all the bad stuff happens, then they will just be happy dying and going on to heaven.

    Yeah, right. The first thing that will happen if (when) the crap hits the fan is that they will be the first at my house because they know where the food and guns are. I’m not an extreme prepper, but I’m working on it bits at a time.

  • c child

    Outstanding job of supporting a perfectly valid viewpoint. I support you 110%.

  • Gregge K Johnson

    Wow Michael , First time in a long time,you let someone get under your skin. Thank you for your insights.

  • Richard T.

    Thank you for your warnings to all of us out here. We just studied Noah last Friday night in our Bible study, and the verse in Hebrew 11 came up. Noah by faith, trusting in God and by obeying God condemned the world! Because the world refused to repent for 120 years! Thinking about preaching for what is coming for 120 years! Nothing happened during all those time and yet Noah keeps on believing God and obeying God! Amazing!

    I am sure we need to “prep” ourselves for the coming evil and darkness that is already here. Yes, I believe we need to prepare physically, but most importantly is to prepare spiritually. I do hope that people who see this website will not stop at physical preparations. After all our only anchor is the Lord Jesus Christ Himself. I think the key is like Noah, to hear from God and have direct instruction of what to do and how to prepare. And the reward for trusting in God and obeying God is that he and his household were all saved. And he became a blessing to many for generations to come.

  • ExPat_in_Krakow

    I have only one response to people who think this way. It’s a joke, and the punchline is:

    ‘So God says to the man, “What are you talking about? I sent two boats and a helicopter!”‘

    I learned an expression as a child: ‘God helps those who help themselves.’

    Even native Americans had a saying for this (not sure which): ‘Pray to God, but row away from the rocks.’

    Anyone who questions the actions you take to prepare for the future in addition to praying to God for a solution to our problems has a fundamental misunderstanding of the human condition.

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  • Debra Kay Lewis Hall

    The Bible uses the word infidel one time only, it is to describe someone who does not care for their family. Does one sit twiddling their thumbs when the weather service says a bad tornado is on the way? Does getting up and walking to the basement mean you are a atheist? Our good Christian friends will perish for lack of knowledge. Wise up prep for yourself and all brothers and sisters who do not. God works through us all. He will provide for many through the watchmen and women who have prepped. Prep on.

  • jhunted7667

    the Believer will do as the spirit directs them

  • God’s servant

    Michael let’s not forget that two times in Proverbs we are told to prepare and if we don’t we are foolish! Proverbs 27:12 A prudent man foresees evil and hides himself; The simple pass on and are punished.

    and again in 22:3
    A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.

    The bible is replete with written instructions to be wise about your surroundings. This time is no exception! I will end by saying that we all need to be in prayer right now and doing exactly what God is instruction each of us to do. I was instructed to move to South America (I hate it here) but I know this where God instructed me to go, so I’m here.
    Blessings

  • Vivian

    I got the same accusation about my faith. My response is Matthew
    24:45-46. No matter what we’re supposed to be good stewards
    unless we’re traveling missionaries (which most of us are NOT). Too
    many so-called believers act no different than those with their hands
    out. Only caring for themselves. Not caring for others.

    James 2:18 is another good reference against such stupidity in the church. James 2:20 is even more telling how dead their faith is.

    I don’t like being labeled a prepper, I’m a homesteader. lol. There are things I cannot ever cover though I would like to if I could. These are the areas I trust God to take care if and when the time comes.

  • Z

    Are the 5 wise virgins in Matt 25 who came prepared to meet the bridegroom (Jesus’ return) without faith ? There’s an one line answer to your question: the ONLY difference between the 5 stupid virgins and the 5 wise virgins is: the 5 wise one were preppers !!! Faith is a VERB (action), those who sit on the butts are like the 5 stupid virgins.

  • John

    Matthew 24:

    37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

    38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

    39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

    This is not evil, sinful, acts that God will poor out his wrath on the world, NO but it is a picture of Christians who choose to not read God’s word and prepare for the real facts. We as Christians are to prepare for not ourselves but for those that are not ready. To store up for our friends and family that is still here if we are not.

  • Katrina survivor

    He who does not work, shall not eat.

  • JonathanandBriana Bennett

    Awesome post! thank you for writing this. Several of my family members have made this same point to me about my lifestyle. I am a Christian first of all.. I am madly in love with my savior and I am devoted to surrendering to His plan for my life. Second of all, I am a mother who refuses to feed her children gm foods, drink poisoned fluoridated water, or to be assaulted at the pediatricians office..God did not create food or water to be this way and I do not believe that He makes mistakes. “Do you not trust the Lord to protect your family?” I am asked this all the time. I believe that God will protect my family but I also believe that God gave me a brain and led me down this path for a purpose..and I am very vocal about it. As you mentioned..I feel it is my duty to blow the horn and warn others. This post nailed it. the passage from Ezekiel could not be more perfect. I believe God truly gave you this message and I thank you for sharing it.

  • timo45

    AS a Christian we have to prepare our self spiritually most of all. The bible talks about how bad things will get and those who don’t prepare will not be ready for Christ coming. But also just like Micheal pointed out in his article we can be smart and store food and things we may need. The bible doesn’t talks against storing food but it do show we should be peaceful people. It tell us to turn our swords to plowshares and leave vengeance to God. We shouldn’t be storing up weapons because it is Gods job defend us.Nobody will be fully prepared but as least we can do somethings that will help us and our family and friends. This system is totally corrupt we can’t depend on it when times of need. We have to depend on God and his son and the warnings He is giving us.

  • jill

    I must say, these comments have been one of the most bizarre things I’ve seen in a long time. No wonder no one wants to be a Christian. The name calling, the rudeness. I’m seriously considering changing my religion, just haven’t decided which one, maybe Jehovah Witness, they always seem so nice and loving, none of this arguing and meaness. I grew up learning to be a born again and believe Jesus died for my sins. I quit going to church, just can’t stand how people can be claiming to love jesus, blah, blah, blah, then turn around and do these things. I’m sure god led me here to be the icing on my cake as to make a final decision to get out while I can. Where is the love you Christians profess? What Bible are you studying? Couldn’t be the one like mine.

  • preprose

    It’s like the story of the lady who was waiting for God to save her from the hurricane. She turned away rescue three times and died. When She went to heaven she asked GOD why he hadn’t saved her, hiss response was he had sent a cop, a boat and a helicopter and she turned all three away. He then asked what ore she had expected him to do.

  • Fort4everblessed

    Dear Michael, your latest article on it being “anti-faith” to prepare for the coming economic collapse is EXACTLY what I needed to read! I have been a bit on the fence about “all this stuff”, not wanting to actually believe that the collapse is actually going to happen. And yet, knowing in my heart of hearts that it is beginning to happen elsewhere in other countries. Also, part of my fence included the issue of faith and your response to another Christian’s opinion really hit the nail on the head for me. THANK YOU!! Please continue to do what you do, be a watchman and keep warning people. And may God bless you abundantly!

  • Child of God

    Michael;
    Is your prepping a calling from God? Did God instruct you to do so? Or are you following your natural instinct?

  • Phillip Pinson

    Being raised Christian and working in Buddhist centers I have come to dislike organized religions with there holier than thou attitudes. People will be people with their differing opinions in all religions. What I’ve come to learn through all the research and just plain being aware of what’s happening around us is there is a dark entity in this world. That entity(satan) is clearly pulling the strings of the people in power of the world. It’s working on keeping us all separated through all these different religious beliefs arguing with one another. It knows we would have extreme power if we were all united as one. Now if there is a dark entity which we know there is, we have seen its work, then there must be a good entity(holy spirit) and I feel that power, that Holy Spirit exists in all of us. The dark entity is constantly working to keep us distracted from noticing that. If we found that power within ourselves and were all to gather as one, we as a human race would be unstoppable and satan wouldn’t stand a chance at whatever he has planned.

  • TheSunDidIt

    My view is honestly “mine” but, I would like to say that, what you do not have, you do without or you beg, borrow or steal it. As stealing is out (not real “Christian”) then, you’re stuck with “begging” and “borrowing”. “BUYING” will be pretty much out as you won’t have any value to the money (China owns our economy anyway). IF I do not have something to meet the needs of the needy, what good am I to the Kingdom of God. And as for “faith”, Jesus TOLD US to take a bag and a staff and a sword if we had one. Even told us to sell our cloaks to buy one. The Bible states there is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. If someone wants to “prep”, fine. If not, that’s ok too. I believe we’ll be pulled out of here prior to the world getting TRULY horrible but, we don’t know when that will be or how long. So, those who say, “don’t prep, there’s no faith in that” I ask you, do you save money? Do you still have TWO pair of shoes? You are a “prepper” if you answer yes to this or any of the follow up questions that are implied. I propose that we prepare NOT for ourselves but, for those left in this world. FILL your pantry but, add BIBLES to it and concordances and song books and teaching materials. Prep like you won’t be here. Someone who JUST came to Jesus during the end times may need that blessing.

  • FollowingTruth

    I really appreciate your article. As a Christian, this is a question I have contemplated myself. Your article completely confirms the same conclusions I have come to. One of my favorite Scriptures says, “The prudent sees danger and hides himself, but the simple go on and suffer for it” (Pro 22:3 &27:12). A better translation of “suffer for it” is “to be punished.” Sadly, those who have not diligently prepared for what is coming are going to feel as though they are being punished.

  • Roberto

    Love your article. Yes, we all should “prep.” So long as we don’t put all of our faith in our “prepping” (from a Christian faith standpoint). As Christians, we should be prepping (ESPECIALLY when we see what is coming). And especially we should prep if we are in the power to do so. Unfortunately most Christians just don’t get it. Many say that to prep is not having faith. To use that logic then why have auto insurance? Or life insurance?

  • marconi314

    Thank you for publishing this article. I’ve often wondered about this myself and the biblical examples cited are very helpful.

    One of my reasons for my preparing is very straight forward. So many other Christian brothers and sisters either do not know of what’s coming, or as you say, knowingly ignore the warning signs. I not only want my family to be prepared, but to be ready to help those of the faith in disparate need. Ignorance is forgivable. Even stupidity is forgivable. I’ll look forward to helping those I can. God bless.

  • Bob Sledd

    I uised to be a Christian and prayed for years, but now I don’t believe it much anymore. My prayers were answered sometimes and other times they weren’t. Finally I got tired of hearing the wornout, prepared answers from other Christians like “God answered in his way not yours” oh please…get real! The invisible man in the sky just wasn’t working for me…at least not for me as an individual. Now my prayers are for this country, this world and other people!

    We need to have faith in oursleves, and being prepared is essential. Didn’t Jesus tell us to prepare for his second cooming…he often talked about preparedness in many different forums…preparing for a Wedding feast, go a prepare a place…he would say.

    AN ECONOMIC COLLAPSE IS COMING AND IS INEVITABLE. This could actually lead to Armageddon and his second coming Prepare yourself with food, water, silver and gold, guns and ammo to protect yourself and your family from evil forces. I wouldn’t hestitate for a moment to kill an attacker. By the samre token, over-preparing can also be used to help those who need food and water during civil unrest after a collapse.
    Be smart…God gave you a brain…use God’s gifts…like the parable of the ten talents.
    Like the joke about the guy who wa seriously injured in a car wreck and refused medical attention saying that God would help him. He later died and when he got to heaven he asked God why he didn’t save him. God replied ” I sent you an ambulance but you refused it”. Imaginr that conversation with the man upstairs!

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