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It Doesn’t Take Much For People To Start Behaving Like Crazed Lunatics

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Bread aisle of a Kroger in the Atlanta area - Posted on Twitter by Kris MuirIf an ice storm can cause this much panic in our major cities, what will a real crisis look like?  The biggest news story in the United States right now is the “historic ice storm” that is hammering the South.  Travel will be a nightmare, schools and businesses will be closed, and hundreds of thousands of people will lose power.  In fact, it is being projected that some people could be without power for up to a week.  But at the end of the day, the truth is that this ice storm is just an inconvenience.  Yes, the lives of millions of Americans will be disrupted for a few days, but soon the ice will melt and life will be back to normal.  Unfortunately, it doesn’t take much for people to start behaving like crazed lunatics.  As you will see below, the winter weather is causing average Americans to ransack grocery stores, fight over food items and even pull guns on one another.  If this is how people will behave during a temporary weather emergency, how will they behave when we are facing a real disaster?

This is a perfect example that shows why it is wise to always have emergency food supplies on hand.  According to CNN, all that is left on the shelves of some grocery stores in Atlanta is “corn and asparagus”…

As the skies turned heavy, Atlantans cleaned stores out of loaves of bread, gallons of milk, bundles of firewood and cans of beans and beer. In some stores, all that was left were the apparently less-popular corn and asparagus.

And according to an Infowars report, some people down in Atlanta were actually getting into fights over basic essentials such as milk and bread…

Atlanta residents ransacked neighborhood grocery stores in frantic preparation for their second major snowstorm of the year, waging fights over food items and leaving destruction and empty shelves in their wake, a stunning precursor to what will ensue once a major crisis impacts the U.S.

After three inches of snow shut the city down two weeks ago, causing major havoc and leaving miles of cars stranded on immobile roadways, the residents of Atlanta took heed and shopped early.

According to people who Tweeted photos of barren store shelves, residents went crazy over essentials like milk, bread, water and eggs, and in some cases “people were fighting. Yes fighting,” alleges one user.

The photo that I have shared below was posted to Twitter by Kris Muir.  It shows what the bread aisle at a Kroger in the Atlanta area looked like as the storm approached…

Bread aisle of a Kroger in the Atlanta area

So what would happen if this was an extended crisis and you had not stored up any emergency supplies for your own family?

That is something to think about.

And just like during the last major winter storm in the South, there are reports of hundreds of vehicles being abandoned on the side of the road in major cities.  For example, just check out what has been happening in Raleigh, North Carolina

“I live and work in downtown. I was able to get from my office back home. My wife works in Morrisville, about 25 minutes away. She left the office at 12 p.m. and is still on the road. I am coaching her home with Google Maps. It appears that, from WRAL TV, the ramp from Wade Avenue to 440 is blocked by abandoned cars. That is a HUGE ramp (downtown Raleigh to highway).”

We are also seeing quite a few reports of “snow rage” as this cold, snowy winter drags on.  In fact, on Sunday someone actually pulled out a shotgun and threatened to shoot a snow plow driver on Long Island

As CBS 2’s Carolyn Gusoff reported Tuesday, people have found themselves fed up with the hassle of plowing, shoveling and salting. In fact, they have been pushed to the edge, to the point where they have been taking out their frustrations on plow drivers.

Eric Ramirez, a snow plow driver on Long Island, said an irate man went so far as to rack a shotgun Sunday and threaten to shoot him because he was piling snow in front of the man’s Manorhaven home.

And a similar incident involving a pistol was recently reported in Union Township

The incident happened Monday afternoon along Underwood Street in Union Township.

Police say Eckert became angry when the self-employed driver, John Abraham, accidentally pushed some snow into his yard while cleaning a neighbor’s driveway.

“I went like this to put it in park and there was a gun right here in my face,” Abraham said.

Eckert is then accused of taking a .22-calibur pistol out of his coat, and pressing it against Abraham’s cheek, telling him to remove the snow.

As I write about so frequently, the thin veneer of civilization that we all take for granted is starting to disappear.  A whole host of surveys and opinion polls have shown that Americans are angrier and more frustrated than ever.  Our society has become a ticking time bomb, and it isn’t going to take much for it to explode.

When it does explode, most people are going to be depending on the government or someone else to take care of them.  The following is a brief excerpt from a recent article by Mac Slavo

Despite warnings from FEMA, as well as the prevalence of popular preparedness TV shows, Americans still don’t seem to understand how susceptible we are to a complete destabilization of life as we know it. It boggles the mind that most people seem to think that when disasters strikes they’ll be able to depend on someone else to provide them with assistance.

Fortunately, at least a few people seem to be learning some lessons about the importance of being prepared from these winter storms…

“Last time I was totally unprepared, I was completely blindsided,” said Lisa Nadir, of Acworth, who sat in traffic for 13 hours and then spent the night in her car when the storm hit Jan. 28. “I’m going to be prepared from now on for the rest of my life.”

What about you?

Are you prepared?

We live at a time when our world is becoming increasingly unstable, and it doesn’t take much to imagine a bunch of scenarios in which this nation would be facing a major crisis for an extended period of time…

-A major eruption of Mt. Rainier or the Yellowstone supervolcano

-The “Big One” hits California

-A massive earthquake along the New Madrid fault line

-A highly infectious pandemic that kills tens of millions of Americans

-Hackers bring down the Internet or crash the banking system

-A massive tsunami hits either the east coast or the west coast destroying numerous major cities

-A major war erupts in the Middle East and the United States gets involved

-A crisis involving North Korea sparks a major war in Asia

-A terror attack that specifically targets our power grid

-A terror attack involving a weapon of mass destruction in one of our major cities

-A terror attack or a major natural disaster causes one or more nuclear facilities in the heart of the United States to experience a “Fukushima-like crisis

-A massive EMP blast that fries our electrical grid and our communications systems

-Last but certainly not least, a massive economic collapse that fundamentally changes life in America on a permanent basis

So what do you think?

Are there additional scenarios that you would add to the list above?

Please feel free to share what you think by posting a comment below…

  • Mondobeyondo

    No, it doesn’t take much at all.
    Most people are not only unprepared, they aren’t even aware of what’s coming.

    “Flying high in April, shot down in May”
    — Frank Sinatra

    Hey, “That’s Life”, buddy.

    • americalsgt

      So what you going to do in July?

      • Mondobeyondo

        “Have a roasty toasty summer
        It’s the hottest time of year
        I’m quite sure, there won’t be snow
        But have a keg ‘o beer”….

    • FirstGarden

      I thought of quitting, but my heart wouldn’t buy it.

    • Richard Martin

      You know something? I don’t think it’s so much that people don’t know what MAY be coming, but more like they don’t believe it can happen. The government has always fixed everything before, why worry about anything in the future? We’ve endured hurricanes, volcanoes, earth quakes, economic crashes, wars, you name it, we’ve had it and always fixed it. They fail to understand that the virtual money we’ve created, society that relies heavily on electrical networks (Internet, telephone, electricity), the nuclear genie that has been released from the bottle, these are all new things that have never been put to the test of destruction. 100 years ago there were a whole lot less of us then there is now. And huge portions of those that were here were virtually self sufficient. In the massive sun storm of 1859, the telegraph network was destroyed and virtually no one was affected. If that happens now we are in deep po-po.

  • Mondobeyondo

    It’s not often when I get to be first to post on here!

  • K

    This is why I live in a remote location. Even here, I would not go to town before a major storm. Person on person violence is not as likely. But during emergency conditions, the locals drive even worse than usual. Figure in a real emergency, all those people fighting will be armed. Still trying to figure what people do with all that toilet paper, they buy just before an emergency. I have seen people with 100 or more rolls in their cart. Also why in an emergency, where you might lose your power. Why do people buy large amounts of perishables, like milk. See even when the majority reacts to an emergency, they do thinks that make no sense.

    • Tim

      Is the storm affecting you? I’m in SC, and it has been snowing and sleeting all day. It’s supposed to continue through the night. Thankfully, I still have power. I hope I don’t lose power tonight because it’s COLD.

      • K

        Yes, 5 inches on the ground 15 inches expected. For me the only problems is my roof. Place is kinda old. Do not trust more than 7 or 8 inches on the roof. Going out in the dark to try to clear some off, just not fun..

        • Tim

          Wow. I’m surprised to hear that. Be careful, man.

        • Annette Smith

          What state are you in, Tim? I’m in Virginia. Winchester. It has been lightly snowing for about an hour, now. It is supposed to pick up in amounts and speed around midnight.

          • K

            Tim mentioned he was in S.C., I am in the Mountains of TN.

          • Tim

            Hi Annette,

            I heard this evening that your area is supposed to get a lot of snow.

            I used to work with a guy who lived in Winchester, VA. We worked in downtown DC together at the GAO. He made that commute everyday.

          • Annette Smith

            We have the FEMA buildings close by…the unmarked one, where I have worked, and the one further up in the mountains. We have a friend who lives here and works in DC. Not for me! Tool ong a commute. We did get about 15″ of snow on my side of town. No power outages, either. We dodged that bullet.

          • xander cross

            Isn’t Winchester northwest of Virginia? I live in Virginia as well.

          • Annette Smith

            Winchester is in the northern half of Virginia. Google shows you.

      • prestodo

        If you’re afraid that you will lose power, then why not purchase a generator before hand, or at least make sure you have an alternative means of heating your home besides electricity. Geez, use some common sense.

        • Tim

          Well, this weather is very unusual for SC. I’ve only been here a few years, but this is the coldest winter we’ve had since I moved here. This is also the most snow I’ve seen here. A backup generator isn’t really necessary in this area. If I lose power for an extended period of time, I’ll certainly survive.

        • Ambermane

          Sometimes it’s not that simple. Some places simply do not have generators for sale. Here in North eastern Ohio, any kind of heater is in short supply. Wood pellets for stoves are scarce. One of our delivery drivers from Pittsburgh drove here to get salt for his sidewalks since he couldn’t find any by him. Propane prices have certainly increased. The key is to stock up on these thing prior to needing them and not when everyone else is in the market.

          • PaulC1

            Try Amazon… generators are cheaper and they come directly to your door.

          • 68Impala

            Need to store lots of gasoline. When Sandy hit people had generators but almost impossible to get gas

          • PaulC1

            So what would you recommend? Mr. Heater portable propane? Would love some ideas!

          • K

            Trouble with Mr. Heater, it goes through those 1 pound propane cartridges pretty fast. My set up is large portable kerosene heaters. The are much warmer, and the kerosene stores well. Also they stretch the fuel far better. In an abundance of caution, I use them in conjunction with a carbon monoxide detector. Do check for availability of kerosene in your area. Some places it is hard to find.

          • Dr. G.

            We store 200 gallons of gas in five gallon containers. Put in stabil to keep the gas from going bad. We replace all the gas once a year by using it in our vehicles. Its about a three months supply of gas for our cars.

          • Dr. G

            Amazon sells all kinds of generators. Huge savings. Shipped to your door. Anywhere in the USA. Great deals. No excuses.

      • LeseMajeste

        Years ago, took the simple step of replacing my electric cooking range with one that used Natural Gas.
        That way, if the electric does go out when it’s cold, you can manually light the range top burners and get some heat in your house.

        • JF

          It provides some heat but not a lot. I used that as a backup many years ago when we lost power on one of the coldest night of the winter on Long Island.

          • FirstGarden

            Where are you on Long Island? I grew up there.

    • Mondobeyondo

      I feel for you people. Here in Phoenix, it’s 79 degrees Fahrenheit. On February 13th. The middle of winter.

      Snow? What’s that? Ice? Had to scrape some ice from my refrigerator this morning.

      Don’t worry. Our turn is coming. And I am NOT looking forward to it, 122 degrees F.? Your swimming pool will be just a bathtub. Pour in some “Mr. Bubble” along with that chlorine mix, and you’ll be fine.

  • jonno

    The thin veneer of civilization is only being shattered in one large Western country, the USA. Nearly everywhere else is doing fine, particularly Asia and Oceania. It may appear your world is falling to pieces but it’s only your world and with Americans believing they are the center of the universe you may think the collapse is happening everywhere , but it’s not. The southern hemisphere does not suffer from ice storms or snow emergencies. It gets a bit hot at times and cyclones can whip up in summer but nothing like the weather disasters in the USA. And what we don’t have in the southern hemisphere is the blatant, uncaring attitude described in this article. The day after the massive floods in Brisbane, Queensland a while back, teams of volunteers turned up and began cleaning up peoples homes and yards. No one had to ask for help, the councils supplied skip bins and the volunteers stayed until each property was back in shape. The volunteers were just average people helping out their fellow Aussies. No, things are fine in plenty of other places around the world, it’s just the sick society in the USA created by a foolish belief that you’re exceptional, nurtured by a warmongering government, and fooled by a religious minority.

    • cateye

      What is this “religious minority” that you write about?

    • Mad Max

      Yes man! You got it!

    • FirstGarden

      I know an enormous amount of religious people, and those of New Age spiritual orientation. Not a single one of them have this attitude that you speak of. Not a drop of it. Beware of painting folks with too broad a brush. I never, ever hear people over here badmouthing Australia.

      And, if it weren’t for nations like Britain and America, your nation would be marching the German goose step, or would have become a Marxist satellite of the Soviet Union. And you certainly would not have the freedom of speech that you are enjoying now.

      Instead, please try to understand that we’re all made of the same stuff – just humans in different vessels, flavours, wrappers, whatever. No one is inherently better or worse than anyone else.

      Life is full of mixture. All nations have good and bad, some more bad than others. I’m certainly not defending America’s misdeeds. I’m one of the ones who laments the loudest over them.

      And we have lots of America-bashers here as well. It’s too easy to urinate all over our leaders, when in reality, they are but a reflection of society at large. And I love to ask the haters – why don’t you get out there and show us how it’s done? Let us observe your superior human stock, as you’re on stage and 50 canes are yanking you in all different directions. Let us see your towering ethic, and how it holds up, when you are hit with temptations like you’ve never imagined!

      Let’s just have a little more even-handed treatment of people. Hate the principle (or the lack of it) when you should. Hate principles, not personalities. Otherwise, we just generate a lot of heat and no light.

      • jonno

        You are right of course about generalizations but you will note my remarks stated your government and Israel loving religions were responsible for the peoples attitude, not just because you’re Americans. And I don’t believe criminal despots such as Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice and Colin Powell are a reflection of the American people. You’re a lot better than that. However, reading the comments here in respect to how many people are worried sick about so many negative aspects of how America now operates makes me so happy I don’t live there when at one time I would have loved to. As to the religious, I did the whole born again, bible believing thing for some years and most of my fellow christians turned out to be the lowest kind of people. Desperate for money and willing to commit adultery at a moments notice. Even the pastor ran off with a Filipino woman while a missionary . Thank god those days are over.

        • DJohn1

          Remember Jesus? He could read minds. I too have seen wolves in sheep’s clothing. They are not what it is all about. What it is about is you.
          That is right. It is about you and your personal relationship with Jesus.
          It has nothing to do with a church full of hypocrites. It has everything to do with how you are going to turn out in life and how you are going to feel at the end of that life.
          Personally, I feel those people that are disguised as Christians will probably have it worse than people that didn’t know better at all. Remember, Jesus can read minds. He knows who has done what and even what they think.
          Scares me. I wouldn’t dare do things I have seen these people do.
          The first thing a real Christian has to do is be honest with himself. I think you might be on that path.
          Even good people make mistakes. The people that really believe pick themselves up and try again.

        • Catalin Oancea

          “…most of my fellow christians turned out to be the lowest kind of people.”

          As sad as this makes me feel to say this, I can relate to that. You won’t find bigger hypocrites than religious people. The problem with these people is that they are into this “faith thing” for the fun of if and for making up excuses to place themselves up on a piedestal and judge everyone else.
          Consider the elite, who see everyone of us like rabbid animals who need to be put down. They have the money, power and position, socially speaking, to place themselves above all and disconsider everyone but themselves. The same is with these vermin who call themselves Christians. From a worldly perspective, they don’t have that much money or power to disconsider the rest, hence not being able to justify their condescending behavior; so they turn to the spiritual side and give themselves high authority by nitpicking the Bible and then judging everyone else:

          “He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.” – Mark 7:6

          “Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.” – Matthew 7:5

          You probably couldn’t stand to be with these people because they were what Jesus describes in Matthew 23: pharisaical hypocrites. Detestable people that cling after the teachings of men and justify their sins using the Bible or their twisted interpretation of it. People that think they are superior because they go to church, pray and fast, and they think they are better than everyone else because they “understand” God and are enlightened. They forget what Christ said to the apostles:

          “Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you…” – John 15:16

          Or this:

          “We love him, because he first loved us.” – 1 John 4:19

          Like Israel who thought they were special, these slimes consider themselves special and righteous. Woe to them, fools that, by their vain conversations, turn souls from Christ unto eternal damnation. Moses said to Israel:

          “Speak not thou in thine heart, after that the LORD thy God hath cast them out from before thee, saying, For my righteousness the LORD hath brought me in to possess this land: but for the wickedness of these nations the LORD doth drive them out from before thee.” – Deuteronomy 9:4

          Because of people like these I gave up on man, but I will never give up on the Lord Jesus Christ. Man is a failure, a degenerate creature, pathetic and blind. Follow Jesus, not man, and let not the wickedness of hypocrites avert your eyes from our blessed hope.

        • Gay Veteran

          America is not the only country with psychopaths for leaders. Blair in Britain? Sarkozy in France?

          • Mondobeyondo

            At least our psychopaths in the U.S. are smart. Oh wait, that’s a very bad thing. A smart psychopath. Uh-oh. One good example: Charles Manson.

        • FirstGarden

          Jonno, we are called to follow Christ, not the riff raff.

          I was wondering what you consider to be religion, and how it manipulates the G o v ‘ t s. Your remarks sound rather Zeitgeist-ish.

          True faith is not characterized by crusades, TV huckstering and Gentile authority (external coercion & control.) Spiritual authority is by persuasion and influence.

          For every counterfeit there’s a genuine article. Perhaps you are talking about MAN-MADE religion?

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      “The thin veneer of civilization is only being shattered in one large Western country”

      What strain of pot are you smoking. It’s gotta be goooood.

      • jonno

        I stopped drinking the other day because it was becoming a habit and my heads never been clearer. I miss the late night You Tube singalongs though.

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          Detox more and then go read the news all over again. That statement is completely contrary to world news.

        • FirstGarden


      • seth

        The UK will not survive. Too many people. Too few resources. An Unarmed populace against the Synagogue of Satan in the City of London, an aggregation of the most wicked bankers in the world.

        Worst thing is, I am seeing a regression of even 40-60 year old adults to the mental level of children. I mean, they have forgotten how to behave like adults, so it is no wonder the children have turned feral. I am going to blame external manipulations and the nanny state for this. As Edward Bernays (US) and Lord Rothsmere (UK) had noted in 1925, only 13% of people at that time were capable of adult level thinking. Obviously, that number has decreased dramatically. I blame the welfare state (what you call EBT) for part of this, as negative social engineering designed to get people apathetic and wholly dependent on the state to do their thinking and for their survival.

      • SMASH


        • Malcolm Reynolds


    • Steve

      jonno. What are you saying “everywhere else is doing fine” you need to take a hard look at your self you are one ANGRY human, This country of ours yes Australia is fast going down the same path as the USA, just take a look around you Job losses, Fires in Victoria, Drought in Qld. I can not believe you are so uneducated.

      • jonno

        Steve , you must be doing it tough not to realize how lucky you are to be an Aussie. This is a big country and there’s always drought and bushfires and sometimes floods but look at the help that’s available from the gov and how we tend to help each other out during these situations. Would you rather be in England or perhaps the USA? If your not here already move to Qld, best people in the world.

    • Reader1

      Boy, I’m glad to hear it’s all in my head. I was afraid to go see the world, since I thought they were doing much worse than I am, but now I’m going to call my travel agent about that dream vacation to Egypt, Libya, Somalia, Nigeria, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Chechnya, the Central African Republic, and Greece (think I’m wrong? What do you call 54% youth unemployment?). -R1

  • Mondobeyondo

    One more time, folks…
    “Optimistic Voices” is both the name of the song, and the name of the female vocal group singing this song.
    You know what movie this song is from.

    • Mondobeyondo

      Is “The Wizard of Oz” a metaphor for the Great Depression? You betcha.

      • FirstGarden

        No, they’re not. They’re being taught a remade version.

        Goodbye Yellowbrick Road…

      • El Pollo de Oro

        We used to follow the Yellow Brick Road. Now, we’re on the Highway to Hell and the Boulevard of Broken Dreams.

        “It’s like a jungle
        Sometimes it makes me wonder
        How I keep from going under”
        —Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five

        • guest

          “We used to follow the Yellow Brick Road”
          Now we’re on the Yellen Broke Road.
          ‘We’re off to see obama’…….

  • Libsare Ajoke

    gary is human excrement

    • Mike Smithy

      OK, OK we get it. 2Gary2 is an idiot. Give it a rest already.

    • Eric Quintero

      I happen to like Gary. We need some comedic relief, seriously 😛

      And you have to respect the fact he keeps showing up despite the abuse.

      • davidmpark

        Agreed. Derision and impertinence are not civilized.

  • Bubba Johnson

    It does not take much preparation to be able to survive in your home for any length of time. Get prepared and live, pilgrims.

    • Kim

      I don’t know about that. I mean, prepping can buy some time, but not any length of time. No one knows how this will play out. Scary times.

    • Mondobeyondo

      Depends on your individual situation, as it pertains to housing, finances, etc. Some people will be more prepared than others. Like I said before, it’s very hard to keep a cow in a studio apartment. The guy who has a garden and a 10 acre plot – not much of a problem.

  • Libsare Ajoke

    hey gary, how is Mayor Nagin the racist who was just convicted of accepting bribes turn you on? bwhahahahahahahahahaah

  • pizzedoff

    Please Mike you’re scaring me!.Now I can’t enjoy my Honey Boo Boo reruns.I must hurry to the store to buy all the potato chips ice cream and soda i have cart off

  • Libsare Ajoke

    filner of san diego is GONE, isn’t that cool gary? lets hear you make fun of San Diego you piece of garbage lib

  • Libsare Ajoke

    gary is a piece of liberal excrement

  • Libsare Ajoke

    gary dream of fellating obama

    • Libsare Ajoke

      gary’s effeminate response: ok hoss, whatever you say.


      • Gay Veteran

        chill out

        • AngelQ

          Agreed. Not a lib or dem, but sometimes the bashing does go to far. We need to go back to being civil to each other, if that is possible.

          • davidmpark

            Yeah, that went too far.

  • Mondobeyondo

    Please be careful, you folks in the Southeast U.S. Nashville, Atlanta, etc.You are in my prayers.
    The weather’s fine here, in the sunny Southwest.
    The weather wonks are predicting 88 degrees Fahrenheit for this weekend. Blessing in disguise.
    July 2014 – 127 degrees here… maybe

    • Annette Smith

      Mondo, we went through high temps like that in Vegas…fried the electric in my car!

    • K

      Thanks Mondo, this is a rough Winter. One thing for sure, no drought on this side of the Country.

  • Libsare Ajoke

    gary………. bwahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  • Libsare Ajoke

    nagin – CONVICTED. dig it gary, dig it

  • GSOB

    A kerosene heater and portable propane heater is whats needed as a back up for heat if the home juice goes out. Battery operated monoxide detectors and a fire extinguisher for sure. Adequate ventilation.

    B/t the two, I’d take the kerosene. More BTUs for the buck. No disposal problems like with the 1 lb propane tanks.

    Think ahead.

    • JF

      Yeah but make sure you get the kerosene rated for those home heaters – A1 – otherwise it will stink like crazy.

  • Deb

    I live in North Central Illinois and used to work at a grocery store. When a storm was predicted, the store would be swamped and people went crazy. Now these people lived and grew up with snow, rain, tornadoes, flooding. but they acted like they had never been through it before and if they didn’t get their junk fix they weren’t going to make it. I figured they didn’t keep much food in there homes. They also scramble to buy enough alcohol to last through the storms.
    I can understand people in an area that isn’t used to such hard weather to not be prepared. But wouldn’t you think they would understand and heed the warnings?????
    My daughter lives in Greenville, South Carolina It’s a ghost town right now. No one is out and the place is shut down for two days. She can’t go to work even if she wanted to. She knows how to drive in snow, but it’s all the locals that are the problem. She said the grocery store shelves were bare except for bagels and cream cheese.

  • davidmpark

    Those long-term disaster scenarios are nasty. What’s worse is when there’s more than one at a time. Compounding is the true problem.

    What’s going on now is a great example of such a problem: the massive storm that will last for days, and then the Iranians off the East Coast. Utilities goes down, people drink a keg of stupid, and the Iranians make a dumb move and fire off a few rockets or high-altitude EMP. Compounding – out of anyone’s control; I don’t care what secret organization they belong to, historically they’ll get it worse than the common man.

    As for preparations – do it fast.

    • Gay Veteran

      “…the Iranians make a dumb move and fire off a few rockets or high-altitude EMP….”
      of my god! panic! the Iranians are off the East Coast!

      • davidmpark

        Yes, they have brought 1 Destroyer, 1 helicopter transport ship, and 30 navy cadets! WE”RE DOOOOOMED!!! /sarc

        Then again, they do have missiles and a nuclear program… just saying.

        • Gay Veteran

          well gee, when was the last time that Iran started a war?
          whereas all the U.S. does is start wars

          • davidmpark

            So, that stuff with the Kurd’s and Iraqi’s didn’t happen, huh?

          • Gay Veteran

            such as?

          • Gay Veteran

            try comparing the wars of aggression started by the U.S. versus the wars of aggression started by Iran.

            well over a MILLION Iraqis are dead because we started a war of aggression against Iraq

    • Malcolm Reynolds

      lol. Capt pole smoker chimes in with a snide little comment and shows utter ignorance.

      You’d have to be an utter moron to completely ignore the Iranians and what they’ve said about what they want to do to this country.
      Maybe he’s an Obama intern. We know what leftist presidents like to do to their interns…

      • davidmpark

        Did you read Joel C. Rosenburg’s book “Dead Heat”? He covers a nuclear attack on DC and other targets from a cargo ship using truck mounted missile launchers. It’s quite doable, and that’s what’s really scary.

        How do we know what’s really on that helicopter transport ship they’re bringing? It may be a small and easy to beat force they’re sending, but it might just have a trump card on board.

        • Malcolm Reynolds

          No, I’ve only read his book “The Last Jihad”. I’ll check that out.

  • DJohn1

    Those of us that live in areas with a reasonable amount of snow each year think it is funny. 3 inches of ice and snow is nothing to people North of you.

    No, not the tragedy of people getting hurt. I mean the all out panic of people that ought to know better.
    3 inches might not even close the schools up north.
    I remember as a child wading through a foot or more of snow in the 50s. And we are not far north. I got to school just in time to get sent home as they closed the schools after about 8 inches and still falling. Fortunately I was only two blocks from the school.

    We missed a huge snow by a change in temperature this fall. It was an icy rain instead of snow. There are piles taller than a man in the retail parking lots from the last snow of about 4-6 inches. 10 inches of snow is supposed to be 1 inch of rain. We had about 2 inches of rain that night.

    Here are some basics.
    Your car just turned into a boat. No you cannot tail the person in front of you in snow. It means instead of stopping you slow way down and you are very gentle with the brake peddle or you will fishtail. Your back wheels go one direction and your front ones go in another direction. If that happens release the steering wheel and get your foot off the gas. When I say release I mean you keep your hand around the wheel but you do not fight it.

    Keep a lot of clearance because the people around you may or may not know the rules. They are your worst nightmare, not the snow.

    Don’t go out if you don’t have to. Call in and tell them you are stranded. They cannot fire everybody that does that. There is no reward for being a hero. Don’t be one.
    I suggest canned goods. Soups are good.
    I suggest a Kerosene Heater or a wood burning stove as a backup heat supply.
    If and when you are forced to use these backups, keep the place aired out with windows cracked open a very little bit.
    Keep a good supply of gasoline. At least two five gallon cans and put dry gas in them so they do not get watered up.
    Take the law into your own hands. You cannot come to a full stop on an icy stop sign. Treat it as a yield sign if you have to. Keep it under 10 miles an hour and 5 is even better around intersections. Drive defensively and give the other guy a lot of space. So if two of you are approaching a stop sign do it real slow and easy so if you have to stop you can. I know that is contradictory. But when you stop you lose momentum on ice. Sometimes that is what gets you stuck or in a ditch.
    Remember that snow and ice are nature’s way of giving you a Darwin Award. So if you don’t have to be out there, don’t be.

    It is not what you do, it is what that ignorant person that has never driven in snow does that gets you killed.

    • Orange Jean

      I grew up in New England but now live in Virginia and we got hit by some of that “laughable” snow… the problem is not JUST the people who don’t know how to drive in it… it’s also the road guys don’t know how to maintain it. It’s a lot different driving in 3″ of unplowed, unsalted, unsanded snow then it is to drive where the road crews know how to maintain it. Here they mostly wait for it to “melt”…

      Also, the design of our roads is different… the center is a bit higher with deep ditches on the side to help the rain slide off… but you can be going very slow and still slide into a ditch if its slippery. Yesterday they had about 3” and a glaze of ice, and ended up with 40 crashes in my very rural county in less than 3 hours.

      Last year I ended up stranded in town for 2 days because we got just a small bit of snow… but in a 3 mile stretch I saw about 8 cars that had slid into the ditch and myself I almost hit 2 guys, almost got hit once, and almost slid into a ditch 3 times. I was driving maybe 15 mph. Never again! I stay home…

      • Orange Jean

        I should also mention… a bunch of people who grew up in areas where it snowed a lot every year… also had problems driving on the rural uncared for roads. Not just locals.

        It’s easy to get arrogant and think you know how to deal with things but local conditions can be totally different than where you came from!

        • DJohn1

          Thank you for the first hand information. I was not aware that the roads were designed for rain rather than snow or that the road maintenance people wait for it to melt. We are blessed with good road crews. The biggest problem I have is people parking on the side roads so the trucks cannot shovel the snow. The chief complaint is the trucks drive the snow ahead of them and shovel as much back into our driveways when they come through with the plows. The only problem is snow blowers do not work in wet snow. They clog up even with a secondary blower in the channel. I keep a 20 inch electric paddle type for the wet snows. The gasoline snow blower is a craftsman and it is self-propelled. Some years we hardly get any snow. This year we have below zero and snow for most of January and I think we have had about 40 inches so far this year. It melts then we get more. In all fairness the gasoline blower starts right up in subzero weather and it works best around 20 degrees or less. I am retired and stay off the road when it is bad too.

          • Orange Jean

            You’re welcome! I wouldn’t have known it either. The road “banking” is subtle, you can’t really see it … I only know about it because my landlord (who grew up here) told me about it. Can see the consequences though…

            On the other hand, now the county is talking about adding storm drain management (some new state environmental regulation), and from what I’ve seen in the urban places around here… the way they do that is disastrous since the modern storm drains they use don’t seem to work any where as well as the cheaper “country boy can survive” ditches when we get heavy rains!

  • Bo

    Who makes the money out of thin air down under?

  • Syrin

    This is the GARY plan for economic prosperity for all. This is the reason you should be stockpiling food water and ammo. That last item is to be shared when GARY and the rest of the parasite class come creeping.

  • Mondobeyondo

    1963. The age of innocence.
    Wish I could have been around then.
    It ended that year, on Friday, November 22nd.
    We have yet to recapture it. And we never will.

    Ask Me Why – The Beatles

  • Bill

    If you think this storm is bad, see what happens when some brain figures the way to stop the imposter is to take away his pen.

  • Wizard of Aus

    Here in Adelaide, we have just had the longest stretch of days of over 40 degrees Celsius – Way over 100 degrees F in your world. Then today we have had over 30mm of rain & there is heaps of flooding. Tomorrow we are expecting 60mm. This is the largest amount of rain recorded in February for 40 years. Weird

    • Orange Jean

      I might want to trade with you… here (in southern Virginia) we jut had the worst winter in about 40 years also. It may seem like we are whimps, but the truth is… this area is not prepared for snow or ice (well nobody is really prepared for ice!)… they don’t have enough plows and I swear the road department is clueless how to use them anyway. They also do nothing for the rural roads, only “wait for it to melt”.

      Plus our roads are built to maximize getting rid of excess runoff from rainfall… so they are “banked” a bit higher in the center, then there are deep ditches on both sides of the road. This does keep us from flooding… but if it gets slick almost impossible to keep from sliding off the road into the ditch.

      We only got a few inches of snow, it was wet snow… then a bit of ice. In just under 3 hrs at peak hour (commuting time( there were 40 crashes in an area that is very rural. Glad I stayed home from work, tho my co-workers tend to poke fun of me for doing that.

  • JailBanksters

    There is a Magic Number when you spend ~35% of your wage on food, people get a little edgey.
    And edgey people with guns….
    Well glad I don’t live in the USA that’s all I can say.
    But that’s why the Entire US Food industry is subsidized, so you don’t get P’d off.

  • Selaretus

    There is no ‘safe place’. If you are stationary (in your home, bunker or getaway location) either the Gov. thugs or roving gangs will get you. You must be MOBILE, under the radar and prepared to be on the move constantly. Get your bug-out-bag ready and be prepared for the option that you may never be able to come back.

    • Bubba Johnson

      Be careful where you rest. One of us may mistake you for a Gov thug or roving gang member. HEE HEE. Good Luck

    • 68Impala

      and go where?

  • Bubba Johnson

    Prep of the day.
    Switch box installed into home electric box.
    Allows for simple generator to power up circuits in your house. Easy install for a determined prep per.

  • Donald Wilson

    The problem is that here in the NANNY STATE millions think someone is going to rush in and rescue then. Just look at the number of people on food stamps or welfare. Tens of millions expect the government or someone to save them from their own laziness and/or stupidity. During the Great Depression there were no food stamps, welfare or unemployment we had no one to rely on we found work or starved. Today millions upon millions depend on the government or some entity or someone to take care of there needs. Wake up America where has that resourcefulness that we as a nation once had?

    Good luck and Good night America

    Bravo Two Zero out…

  • 68Impala

    Here’s a scenario
    Alien invasion! 🙂

  • 68Impala

    Here’s a scenario:
    Invaders from space! 🙂
    We’ve already been invaded by aliens

  • grumpyhillbilly

    I’ve noticed despite some going crazy and violent, most are actually becoming aware that they are on their own. The hunker down mentality doesn’t seem limited to just the weather. So maybe the “winter that keeps getting worse” is a good thing?

    • Bubba Johnson

      I remember how the people of New Orleans reacted to a devastating storm compared to other cities with similar circumstances and devastation.

      • AngelQ

        It’s because some people have been taught/groomed to rely on others for help while others rely on themselves. Always rely on yourself first…

  • cjoakwood

    If a true crises developed , long term. over half ur population would perish…..they are totally unprepared to take care of them selves and live off the land! The good news 99% of these people would be Liberal Democrats!

    • Bubba Johnson

      Hee hee

    • Gay Veteran

      right, because conservative republicans are sooooooo prepared. Keep buying into the 2 party system

      • Malcolm Reynolds

        I admire anyone willing to throw caution into the wind and spout the nonsense you do over and over. Good for you.

        • Gay Veteran

          wth? you off your meds again? where have I thrown caution into the wind?

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Just in general. You spouted something idiotic to mirror what someone said about the left like spouting contrarian yak makes you sound good.

            It’s clear you don’t even think about the BS you post and you know the prepper types that scan these sites will rebut the dopey left wing crap you spout (especially me), ergo my comment to you.

            So your claim was essentially to rebut the claim that leftists prefer reliance on govt to self sufficiency (totally unprepared to take care of them selves and live off the land).

            So, go ahead and point out instance of “conservative republicans are sooooooo prepared”..
            I’m going to point to hurricane sandy had NJ and NYers eating out of garbage dumpsters and epsecially wailing about the absence of govt (As pointed out here)
            and also to New Orleans and hurricane Katrina.

            now you….

          • Gay Veteran

            Just in general you usually spouted something idiotic.
            And you have yet to rebut any “dopey left wing crap”.

            And last I checked there was a lot of right-wingers sucking on that government teat.

            “…I’m going to point to hurricane sandy had NJ and NYers eating out of garbage dumpsters…”

            oh I’m sorry, who is the governor of NJ? a democrat? NO, it’s Chris Christie, until recently the darling of the GOP

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            I knew you couldn’t stay on point.

            So Chris Christie makes NJ A right wing state? One of the the most progressive republicans out there?
            You’re really gonna make that claim? LOL.
            With your idiotic logic, Abortion Barbie makes texas a left wing state. LOL

          • Gay Veteran

            there you go making that strawman

          • Gay Veteran

            and btw, what happened to you proving I lied???


          • Veteransforpeace

            I agree with Malcom. Every time you post, it’s some small-minded, kneejerk reaction to someone else’s post. I never see you start any posts or contribute anything useful, positive or productive to the group. Always just some snide-ass response to what others post.
            Like a fly in the ointment that does nothing but stink.

            Why don’t you go somewhere else if you want to continue spewing out all this counter-productive venom?

          • Gay Veteran

            now Malcolm, you don’t have to use a different screen name

          • Veteranforpeace

            If you’re gonna talk to me, at least turn around and face me.

          • Gay Veteran

            chill out Malcolm

          • Veteranforpeace

            This is not Malcolm.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            Aww gee I dunno, maybe it was the 12 or so of your posts I put up there showing you doing exactly what you denied. Moron.

          • Gay Veteran

            hey sh*thead, all you did was put up quotes you disagreed with.

          • Malcolm Reynolds

            “hey sh*thead,”
            project much, rump ranger?

          • Gay Veteran

            sounds like you, REMF

  • MidtownMuse

    This dude needs to relax and stop fear mongering. Yes there would be some temporary unrest in any of these situations, particularly in the inner cities, but we would quickly figure it out and come together in community to make it work.

    • Scared Economist

      HA HA HA!!! HA HA HA!!!! LMAO!!!
      What dream world are you living in?

    • AngelQ

      Like they did in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina?

  • Kim

    They are already drug addicted crazed lunatics. Poor people. I feel bad for all the people, they are just thrown around and used up – now look at the average American. No direction, no focus, no money; consumed with hopelessness and anger. It’s not hard to see how a relatively small event like a storm can spur people to go ape-shit. But people are already ape-shit. Sad, sad.

  • Mondobeyondo

    Ah yes, the weather.
    Another variable to throw into the mix.

    Lifetime farmers know all about how weather can affect your crops, or lack of crops. Us city folk just turn to the Weather Channel to see if we should wear a T-shirt or a sweater or a jacket today.

    Just something to think about, as you plant those lima bean seeds, squash and tomato plants. Mother Nature is going to have the last laugh.

  • Richard O. Mann

    The problem is, when everyone else in the hood finds out that you have food, what then? If some one will pull a gun on another because of a bit of snow, what will they do for food?

  • ian

    Here in colorado, we are laughing at the rest of the country freaking out about a snow storm. Hilarious.

    • Bubba Johnson

      Got it, relax and just take another toke.

    • El Pollo de Oro

      Here in Killadelphia, I’m laughing at all the folks freaking out over a snowstorm. And I’m FROM here. Hilarious.

  • Drud

    At the most base level, we are a society of addicts and we are in denial, and I am not speaking of substance abuse. We are addicted to cheep energy, cheap food and cheap entertainment. We live lives that would be the envy of kings in ancient times, but we are not satisfied. Since this has been the lifestyle we have always known, we cannot comprehend what life would have been like before AC and water heaters and microwaves and refrigerators and huge SUVs that carry not only us but all of our toys wherever we desire. I insist on saying “we” in all of this because I am no different. i cannot truly understand what life would be like without modern conveniences and yet, I am wholly convinced that there was an added dimension to existence before everything became so friggin’ convenient, that there is something both noble and fulfilling in a daily struggle to survive and prosper. Unfortunately, we can never know what it may have been like in previous centuries of the brief history of humanity, but we may someday soon know what it is like to live without modern conveniences (I do know we are soft compared to our ancestors and this transition will be painful). Again, we are a society of addicts and addicts must hit bottom before they can recover.

  • Bubba Johnson

    I retired in the country and found out I too was a prep-per and did not even know it. That is how easy it is to survive. If you can find the time prep pin in is easy and saves money.

  • Wally

    This is nothing new. This stuff has been going on for many years. Just look at Black Fridays when people act like animals to buy a $100 Sansui Laptop or a $199 45″ Samblooey TV. I remember a story of a shipping container washing up on a new jersey beach filled with boxes of frito lay snacks. People were acting like animals then, fighting over who got a bag of chips.

    This is scary though because these nuts will be roaming the streets in every major city in the US when the next great depression hits. There are Craigslist ads now where people are saying don’t try anything stupid when you come to look at my car for sale I have a gun and I am not afraid to use it. Society has degraded to levels never seen before.

    When the great depression hit, it was a different time people were civil and had things like character, morals, integrity and a strong work ethic. Qualities like these are hard to find now in people. People helped their neighbor, people suffered together. Yes there were bad things happening during the great depression but it wasn’t the norm. When this collapse happens it will be anarchy.

  • Stephanie S

    Get to know your neighbors, your life and health could depend upon it in a crisis. As a survivor of a 6.8 earthquake in Calif (1994 Northridge quake) I can tell that no one from the govt. is rushing to your door to save you as emergency services will be stretched to the limit. Less than 5 min. after the quake neighbors were knocking at our door to see if we were okay or needed any help. That’s the kind of neighbors you will need.

  • FirstGarden

    Where O where, assets, art thou hiding?

    Well lookie here..


  • ImpudentStrumpet

    Get some preps. Doesn’t have to be a lot. Just to get you past the time when those who didn’t prep at all won’t be around any more. Food/water preparation without commercial fuel is a must. Ecozoom, Prep Stove, Grover, etc… Some kind of biomass fuel.

  • U.S.A. Patriot

    If this happens with just a few inches of snow.
    What will it be like if there is a Solar Flare, E.M.P. or War breaks out in America.
    The first two are a great possibility.
    The last one is a certainty.

  • WithoutJESUSitsall4nothing

    Any additional scenarios? Yeah, how about if any human being dies without being born again of Jesus’ spirit, then your souls burns in hell forever, I can’t really think of anything worse than that.

  • marc

    I would be fine for months, except for the insomnia I would have from knowing about so many people suffering. But if the majority of people where prepared for various crisis’, the suffering would be minimalized. And people with plenty would be able to easily share with the few who were caught unguarded.
    Instead, we have just a handful of people prepared for crisis; and we have a large mass population who will eat the condiments in their fridge the first day and be scratching their heads concerning what’s for second breakfast on the next day.
    Everything becomes more unpredictable with these scenarios.

  • Mondobeyondo

    One more time (maybe the last time)…
    Parody of the 1949 movie “On the Town”, starring Frank Sinatra and Gene Kelly:

    I’ve been shot, stabbed, raped, beaten, jumped by thugs and got mugged, in just one day

    New York, New York
    It’s a heck of a town
    My battery’s dead and the stock market’s down
    The rats all crawl through the holes underground
    New York, New York… what a wonderful town!

    • El Pollo de Oro

      “Rats in the front room
      Roaches in the back
      Junkies in the alley with a baseball bat
      I tried to get away, but I couldn’t get far
      ‘Cause a man with a tow truck repossessed my car”

      —Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five “The Message”

  • Mondobeyondo

    We will make it through this.
    Not without a lot of suffering and sacrifice.
    The next several years will be Brutal.
    But if you stick to your guns (figuratively, and literally)
    — you will pull through this.

  • dan

    as if people have not been dealing with snow storms and bad weather forever….and all news reports snow is closing roads and food and supplies are short….it has ALWAYS been this way….but now the home of the ‘brave’ …is being turned into a ‘wussie’ place…by the progressives and fear mongers that have taken control of this nation…..may they be the first to feel the wrath…of God or man….imho

    • Mondobeyondo

      If you’re prepared for it, or accustomed to it, it’s no big deal. The problem is, people in Atlanta, Dallas, etc. aren’t used to it. People in Chicago and Boston are used to it.

      Same here in Phoenix. We’re used to 110 ~ 115 degree heat in July. Many other people would just drop dead.

  • Elaine Perkins

    The one most important you failed to list. This one should have been top of the list. The “Rapture” of the Church. Just imagine what Hell on earth this will cause with planes falling from the sky; car wrecks everywhere; Surgeons disappearing while operating on someone and I could go on and on for hours. Are you ready for the “Rapture”. If not now, when?

  • voice in the wilderness

    The truth is that society is going to break down,also this government and all others are going to soon be replaced with something far better. God has always been involved with the installing and removal of world powers all through history. Assyria, Egypt,Babylon etc all came and went at Gods’ directive.
    Now the time has come to install his Messianic warrior king Jesus Christ and this economic,social,moral breakdown is just the leading edge of Gods’ plan to permanently remove human rule from the scene.Stop trusting in human plans for reform and recovery for they are only designed by Satan to confuse and veil the real behind the scenes activity.
    As for prepping, why not, when the time comes, put your faith in God to provide for your needs?
    He has provided miraculously for his people throughout bible history, why not now if we put real faith in him?
    May all who read this take heart that our loving creator has destined a far superior world to live in than the one we now live in.(same world,different
    government ) His Kingdom will satisfy all our needs and wants super abundantly.
    Go to Him in heartfelt prayer today and seek his guidance and help, believe me He will give it to you.

  • Reader1

    Hi, everyone. I’m doing some informal research here, so if you can give me an eye-witness answer, I would be very appreciative.

    Were you in an area hard-hit by the storm and did you see this kind of panic buying in the stores with folks scrambling for bread, milk, beanie weanies, etc?

    What items were not in high demand?

    I noticed in some pics things like donuts and cheap junkfood were left on the shelves, but all the bread, even crummy white bread, was gone.

    What was the situation with dry staples, such as flour, rice, and beans?
    What was the situation with spices?

    What was the situation with coffee?
    What was the situation with medicine?

    Please answer in detail, but only what you personally saw. Thank you-R1

  • wandakate robinson

    Good to always be prepared for whatever comes our way. I have studies the trends and signs of the times and it looks like by summer the prices will hit the roof. Stock up now while the food is in the store and you will have it then at today’s prices. That is called “smart” shopping.

    • It is the purchasing power of the dollar that is going doen which makes more of them necessary to buy everything. It is caused by fiat banking meaning manufacturing money with nothing behind it. It is the government stealing what you have earned by making more of it for free.

  • The Roman Emprite Collapsed. The Kingdom of France Collapsed, Russia Collapsed and So have the Central Bank of the United States three times so far. They were all for the same reason. Letting the government fool arund with market conditions for money. If it does not stop there will be no United States next year and the dollar will finally collapse again this time with a default. It is time to face the truth. Anyone can see it.

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