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It’s Not Over: Rogue Republican Elector Announces He Will Not Vote For Trump And Urges Others To Join Him

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trump-pence-official-photo-of-the-presidential-transition-of-donald-trump-with-vice-president-elect-mike-penceDonald Trump has already lost one of his electoral votes, and there are indications that a number of additional electors may be prepared to abandon him.  Prior to the election, I warned my readers that we would not officially know who the next president would be until December 19th.  On that Monday, the 538 members of the Electoral College will gather in their state capitals in all 50 states to formally elect the next president.  Throughout U.S. history electors have voted according to the will of the people more than 99 percent of the time, but in 2016 there is a concerted effort to persuade Republican electors not to vote for Trump.  If 37 Republican electors can be convinced to vote for someone other than Trump, that would keep Trump under the 270 vote threshold needed to win and it would throw the election into the House of Representatives.  Most people had considered this to be a longshot, but on Monday a Republican elector named Christopher Suprun publicly announced in the New York Times that he will not cast his vote for Donald Trump.  On the other side, there are at least 8 Democratic electors that have already publicly pledged to switch their votes from Hillary Clinton to a compromise Republican alternative to Trump.

So we already know that there will be quite a few “faithless electors” on December 19th.  The question will be whether or not they are able to rally enough electors to their cause to deny Donald Trump the presidency.

What Christopher Suprun has chosen to do is really unprecedented in the history of modern American politics.  Not only has he publicly announced that he is not voting for Trump, he is also attempting to convince other Republican electors to join him.  He explained his reasoning for this move in his editorial for the New York Times

Fifteen years ago, as a firefighter, I was part of the response to the Sept. 11 attacks against our nation. That attack and this year’s election may seem unrelated, but for me the relationship becomes clearer every day.

George W. Bush is an imperfect man, but he led us through the tragic days following the attacks. His leadership showed that America was a great nation. That was also the last time I remember the nation united. I watch Mr. Trump fail to unite America and drive a wedge between us.

Mr. Trump goes out of his way to attack the cast of “Saturday Night Live” for bias. He tweets day and night, but waited two days to offer sympathy to the Ohio State community after an attack there. He does not encourage civil discourse, but chooses to stoke fear and create outrage.

Of course this movement started long before Suprun made his surprise announcement.  A group of eight Democratic “Hamilton electors” have been lobbying for Republican electors to reject Trump and join them in agreeing on a compromise Republican alternative for quite some time.  And according to Politico, those associated with this group have been in active contact with the Clinton campaign…

Advocates of the long-shot bid to turn the Electoral College against Donald Trump have been in contact with close allies of Hillary Clinton, according to multiple sources familiar with the discussions, but the Clinton camp — and Clinton herself — have declined to weigh in on the merits of the plan.

Clinton’s team and the Democratic National Committee have steadfastly refused to endorse the efforts spearheaded by a group of electors in Colorado and Washington state. But, as with the ongoing recounts initiated by Green Party nominee Jill Stein, the Clinton team has not categorically rejected them, leaving the collection of mainly Democratic electors to push forward with no explicit public support from the failed Democratic nominee or any other prominent party leaders.

Of course the Clinton team is desperate to do something to salvage this election.  Clinton’s lead in the popular vote has now grown to more than 2.5 million, and it might end up around 3 million by the time all the votes have been counted.

There are Clinton advocates that are arguing that the American people clearly chose Hillary Clinton to be the next president and that therefore the Electoral College should choose to reject Trump on December 19th.  But for Christopher Suprun the popular vote doesn’t really matter.  To him, it is all about “the good of the country”.  Here is more from his editorial in the New York Times

The election of the next president is not yet a done deal. Electors of conscience can still do the right thing for the good of the country. Presidential electors have the legal right and a constitutional duty to vote their conscience. I believe electors should unify behind a Republican alternative, an honorable and qualified man or woman such as Gov. John Kasich of Ohio. I pray my fellow electors will do their job and join with me in discovering who that person should be.

Fifteen years ago, I swore an oath to defend my country and Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. On Dec. 19, I will do it again.

It is very interesting that he brought up Ohio Governor John Kasich, because Politico is reporting that Kasich is precisely the compromise candidate that the “Hamilton electors” are pushing…

Kasich is increasingly seen as the most acceptable Republican alternative to electors on both sides of the aisle, according to multiple electors familiar with the conversations. They note that Kasich defeated Trump in Ohio’s primary, that the governor boasts a high approval rating in his state and that Kasich was reportedly under consideration to be Trump’s vice president before he selected Indiana Gov. Mike Pence.

“Many Electors are saying that Gov. John Kasich would be best for our country. A consensus is beginning to form that Gov. Kasich would be best positioned to unite America,” Micheal Baca said in a statement to Politico on Sunday. Other electors involved in the effort confirmed this line of thinking.

Of course if it is only Christopher Suprun that switches his vote that isn’t going to make enough of a difference.

The “Hamilton electors” need a total of 37 Republican electors to switch their votes to deny Trump the presidency, and according to one report they already have 15…

In a sensational new development, TV host David Pakman says he was told by a high level source that 15 electors in states Trump won will refuse to vote for Donald Trump.

Pakman went on to say that the electors are also lobbying other members of the electoral college to not vote for Trump.

The goal is to prevent Trump from getting the 270 electoral votes he requires to become president.

If Trump loses 37 electoral votes, it will put him under the 270 benchmark and throw America into a constitutional crisis.

Of course the only “faithless” Republican elector that has come forward publicly is Christopher Suprun.  So if there actually are 14 others we do not know their identities at this point.

But without a doubt, this election is not over yet.  The votes that will decide the next president of the United States will not be cast until December 19th, and the next president will not be inaugurated until January 20th.

So we are still in “the danger zone“, and Trump supporters cannot rest easy until he is officially in the White House.

 
  • HarbaughsAcrybaby

    Sounds like a great way to spark a revolt immediately.

    • Rusty Nale

      Can’t think of anything more revolting than Hitlery in the WH.

      • SnodtBlossom

        Impeach President PigBastard T.Rump!!!

        • Rusty Nale

          Another troll…Boom! Its gone!

    • watchmannonthewall

      Also sounds like the defining statement of the book of Judges: “In those days there was no King in Israel; and every man did that which was right in his own eyes.” (Judges 21:25) The children of God did not recognize His Word as having any authority, “Law”, in their lives. Not a good thing!!

      Which, in turn, reminds me of Jesus’, Yeshua’s, statement in the NT: Depart from me you workers of lawlessness. I never knew you.” (Mt. 7:23)

      We live in a land of lawlessness!!

    • Tatiana Covington

      That’s the idea…!

  • thomas

    Torches and pitchforks will come out and the poo-poo will hit the propeller.

  • Cinderella Man

    Unbelievable Michael your peddling fear pure and simple…ok so you failed to shock us with the Itallian vote now you’re trying to scare us with this B.S. You used to be a writer I used to trust and respect with your thoughtful insight and facts to back up your claims this is pure garbage my friend. There is no way in hell the electors go against the will of the voters it would cause a collapse in faith of our voting system. They would have rioting without end. You’re starting to be like the writers of The Walking Dead. You use cheap scare tactics to keep us reading and entertained. This is too much man.It’s not gonna happen and I’m not losing sleep over one jerk**f who says he won’t support Trump. Oh well there are 305 others that will put him in.

    • Jason Samuelson

      I’m pretty sure Michael’s just reporting what other news sources have reported, no need to get belligerent bro…Everything he’s saying floats in the realm of possibilities and nothing can be discarded until the hand is played out.

      • alan

        Nothing can be discarded until the bribe money is handed out. “fixed”

        • Jason Samuelson

          Unfortunately, you’re probably right. Between the bribes and the death threats, we can only hope these Electors maintain their integrity to the People.

      • Cinderella Man

        Didn’t mean to sound angry Jason I’ve been reading Michael’s articles for almost 7 years now I’ve just noticed a change in his style it’s becoming more sensationalistic and not so much practical. Its as if he’s trying to stay relevant in the face of changing times. I’m a prepared person so I don’t stress out as much as I used to and it was articles from this blog and others that compelled me to take action. However articles like this are reporting irrelevant ramblings and speculation of what could and maybe happen. But this one is so far out of the realm of possibility it angers me. And the comment at the end where Trump supporters can’t rest easy till Dec. 19th further shows me that this article is meant to inspire fear and discontent.

        • socalbeachdude

          Yep.

        • Jason Samuelson

          I hear ya, I think most of his fears and thinking is stoked by the idea that most people know that the Clinton’s and the Democrat party don’t like losing and won’t go quietly. I’m sure they’re going to try and pull out all stops to turn the election results in their favor, but like you, I’m not going to stress about it. It’s like anything else in life, you’ve got to roll with the punches and just be ready to swing when the opportunity arises. Stay prepared and relax because it’s better to have and not need than to need and not have. If our Republic or liberties need rescue, I’ll be there, but until then it’s just business as usual.

        • Cinderella Man

          Oh deleted my comment? Must have struck a nerve eh? I just want you to improve the quality of your posts Michael you’re a talented writer and a good investigative journalist but stop with the irrational fear it doesn’t do any of us good

          • Mike’s a crybaby

            Mike is not a “talented writer.”

            He is a failed want to be attorney that seized the 2008 crisis to start a blog hat is now starting to lose popularity. Hence the new recent move into television evangelism.

            Like a spoiled child he deletes anything that doesn’t stroke him like he pleases.

          • LIZ THE SHIZ

            there are multiple fake commenters on this site under different names some paid some not, but all to bump up the click bate numbers cha ching IMHFO!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Scott Comin

          i love the drama of possibilities. anything is possible. probable no but possible yes.

      • LIZ THE SHIZ

        WARNING WARNING: this may be a fake news site , please go to CNN or MSNBC for the truth , that is all

        • merrileerj

          Oh that’s rich. (not)

    • socalbeachdude

      100% correct.

    • ALWAYSTOMORROW

      I do not think that Michael’s writing style or content has changed much over time.

      Cinderella Man, is it possible that you are more educated now and see the articles for what they have always been?

    • BS1986

      Hard pill to swallow?

  • CRAT

    According to the 12 th amendment, if none of the candidate, for whatever reason, obtain the requisite number of electoral votes, then it goes to the House of Reps; however, only the three candidates with the highest original electoral votes will be voted upon. The House can’t just vote for any Joe Blow!

    Atleast that is how I read the 12th!

    • socalbeachdude

      That certainly is not going to happen.

    • subotaibahadur

      Keep in mind that the plain text of the Constitution means nothing. The whims of politically appointed and subservient judges means everything.

      Subotai Bahadur

  • aldownunder

    The deep state always think they’ve got total control of everything

  • alan

    Soros opened this guy a nice fat Saudi bank account to reverse his vote. I think they are hoping a bunch more will follow. Very likely a couple fools will jump.

  • socalbeachdude

    Trump won the Electoral College votes by 306 to 232.

    The actual Electoral College vote to elect Donald Trump will take place on December 19, 2016 in the state capitals all around the United States.

    On January 20, 2017, Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the 45th President of the United States of America.

  • subotaibahadur

    If Trump loses the election because of bribed electors, or GOPe maneuvering in the House; there is no reason to take part in electoral politics ever again. That does not mean that there will be no more politics. It means that it will change, permanently, in form.

    Subotai Bahadur

    • XSANDIEGOCA

      Absolutely correct. It will be time to go off the grid.

  • socalbeachdude

    Sarah Palin condemns Trump’s deal with Carrier as ‘crony capitalism’… as rumors that she will get a cabinet job fade away

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3996262/Sarah-Palin-criticizes-Trump-s-Carrier-deal-crony-captialism.html

  • socalbeachdude

    Trump defends his historic phone call with the president of Taiwan: The Donald hits back at claims he risks rift with China by becoming first president-elect to speak to regime in 37 YEARS

    President-elect Trump strayed from the diplomatic tradition of his predecessors on Friday as he chatted on the phone with Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen. Their conversation marks the first direct official diplomatic contact between the two since 1979 when the US severed ties with Taiwan in a show of support for its neighbour, China. China and Taiwan foster a fragile relationship; the former believes the island is part of the country, while Taiwan considers itself an independent, self-governing nation. Trump celebrated his conversation on Twitter, telling followers it was the Taiwanese leader who initiated their chat.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3996074/Trump-strays-diplomatic-tradition-phone-call-Taiwanese-president-37-years-likely-infuriate-China.html

  • socalbeachdude

    CNN producer caught joking with crew about plane carrying Donald Trump and Mike Pence crashing during live shoot

    The female producer was working with correspondent Suzanne Malveaux as she prepared to go live from Carrier Corporation headquarters in Indiana for a report on Trump’s visit to the company. After going through the soundcheck the crew began to discuss with Malveaux what sign they would use to let her know that Trump’s plane (inset) had arrived and he was on his way to the press conference. Then, with less than a minute to go until Malveaux began her live report, the producer made some sort of sign off camera and said: ‘That means his plane’s crashed.’ She then quickly said that she was ‘just kidding.’ The flight the producer was joking about was not just carrying President-elect trump either, but also Vice President-elect Mike Pence.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3995452/CNN-producer-caught-joking-crew-plane-carrying-Donald-Trump-Mike-Pence-crashing-live-shoot.html

  • socalbeachdude

    NOVEMBER JOBS: +178,000…

    UNEMPLOYMENT 4.6 %…

    Record 95,055,000 Out Of Labor Force…

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/02/record-95055000-americans-out-of-the-labor-force/

    • LIZ THE SHIZ

      NOVEMBER JOBS: +178,000…
      UNEMPLOYMENT 4.6 %…FAKE NUMBERS probably more like 10.5%

  • socalbeachdude

    Rogue Republican Texas elector says he will NOT vote for Trump despite The Donald winning the state by 813,000 votes

    A Republican elector from Texas will not cast his vote for Donald Trump, saying: ‘I am here to elect a president, not a king.’Christopher Suprun, a conservative who worked as a firefighter in the wake of the September 11 attacks, slammed the president-elect for being unqualified, unfit and ‘dismissive’ of his own conflicts of interest in an op-ed piece in the New York Times on Monday. In the US, presidents are elected by the Electoral College – not by the popular vote, where Hillary Clinton’s lead has surpassed 2.5million votes. In most states, electors are ‘bound’ and required by law to cast a vote for the winner of their state’s popular vote. But other states like Texas don’t have a rule against electors going rogue, and at least six Democratic electors have already expressed their intentions to try to block Donald Trump from securing 270 Electoral College votes on December 19.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4003704/I-elect-president-not-king-Republican-elector-Texas-says-WON-T-vote-Trump.html

    • jakartaman

      This guy is in serious danger from his oun arrogant stupidity – He best be looking over his shoulder

  • socalbeachdude

    Trump picks his former presidential rival Ben Carson to be the new Housing Secretary

    The announcement of Ben Carson being picked as Housing Secretary by Donald Trump comes as he continues a series of interviews and other deliberations aimed at forming his administration.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4001278/Trump-taps-former-campaign-rival-Carson-housing-secretary.html

  • socalbeachdude
    • LIZ THE SHIZ

      Zuckerberg gets ZUCKER PUNCHED , couldn’t happen to a nicer guy

  • socalbeachdude
  • socalbeachdude

    Kellyanne Conway says Hillary might NOT be off the hook for her emails because Trump administration ‘may look at that again’

    ‘There will be officials who are in charge of such things in the Trump administration who may look at that again,’ the top Trump aide said.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3994146/Kellyanne-Conway-says-Hillary-NOT-hook-emails-Trump-administration-look-again.html

    • jakartaman

      Its not the individual – its the rule of law that needs protection and needs to be re-enforced after this current administration and DOJ – a clear message needs to be sent – Justice in America is for every American

      • alan

        I was thinking that too. WTF, she broke the law and needs to go to jail for it. This sets a very bad precedence.

    • LIZ THE SHIZ

      Kellyanne and Ivanka are the best spokpersons the Trump administration has , they should create a cabinet position for them called Department of Truth

  • socalbeachdude

    Anyone else fancy being Secretary of State? Now California Rep Dana Rohrabacher says he is in talks with Trump, too – saying he backs president-elect on China AND Russia

    Rohrabacker defended Trump’s call with Taiwan’s president and a detente with Russia to ‘defeat radical Islam’ It feels like they want to get back to the Cold War with such hostility.’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4001582/Anyone-fancy-Secretary-State-California-Rep-Dana-Rohrabacher-says-talks-Trump-saying-backs-president-elect-China-Russia.html

  • socalbeachdude

    SHAQ: TRUMP WON ELECTION ‘FAIR AND SQUARE’…

    Hillary nets 1 VOTE from Wisconsin recount first day…

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/02/first-day-of-wisconsin-recount-nets-hillary-one-vote/

    • MargfromTassie

      So the vote counting was quite accurate then?

  • socalbeachdude

    Mad Dog unleashed in the White House: Trump says he has selected respected and outspoken retired Marine General James Mattis, 66, as Defense Secretary

    President-elect Donald Trump told a crowd of supporters in Ohio that he has selected Marine General James Mattis to be his secretary of defense. The Washington Post and CNN reported the selection Thursday afternoon but the report was denied almost instantly by Trump spokesman who said: ‘No decision has been made yet.’ Mattis served four decades in the Marines, stepping down in 2013 as head of U.S. Central Command.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3992002/Trump-teams-denies-picked-Marine-General-Mad-Dog-Mattis-Defense-Secretary.html

  • socalbeachdude

    Bring on the billionaires! Donald Trump’s cabinet is the richest in modern history – with a combined wealth of $10 BILLION (excluding the man himself)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3990434/Bring-billionaires-Donald-Trump-s-cabinet-richest-modern-history.html

    • Richard O. Mann

      Rich white men made this country, and now rich white men are destroying it. It’s just as it should be.

      • Robert

        Why do “rich white men” owe anyone anything?

        • MargfromTassie

          Because if they’re like Donald Trump and boast about not paying any taxes, then they are getting the benefit of things that ordinary taxpayers have paid for – eg, public roads, bridges, transport infrastructure, airfields, medical research, national parks, water monitoring, health inspections, telecommunications, environmental cleanups, quarantine, policing, defence and national security, disaster relief and the myriad of services provided by Governments.
          The ordinary taxpayer is a mug if he, in any way supports candidates for Public Office who do not contribute with their taxes. The truth is that such people are greedy parasites.

    • thomas

      Well I guess they will not need to take any bribes! What is wrong with having money?

    • jaxon64

      Good–maybe they’ll be above all of the crony deals, bribes and lobbying

    • MargfromTassie

      The USA is all about money and very little else.

  • steambt

    Poor little guy a traitor to his oath.

  • Scott

    Yawn.

  • DJohn1

    What ever happened to the word “honor” and the Electoral College?
    Gov. John Kasich has no honor. This was proven when he signed on to back the candidate that won the primaries and backed out of doing so when it was someone he hated.
    So no he is not an acceptable candidate substitute to become President. He is a liar proven on television in the debates.
    If your word is no good then you cannot make agreements as nothing you say can be trusted period.
    Those electors that have no honor will rue the day they ever thought about not doing their duty and voting for the person their state majority has voted for. These people are directed as to how they are to vote on the first ballot.
    To do the dishonorable thing because of personal feelings towards the person that won will have many consequences down the road.
    Over three hundred electoral votes think Trump won the election.
    There are now two houses of congress controlled by Republicans. Don’t think for a minute they will not take offense at being cheated out of the White House by disloyal people. And those people in Congress can make themselves heard and in such a manner that might even mean jail time for those that do the wrong thing.
    The very least thing that might happen is they might raise the fine to $100,000 for doing the dirty thing.
    Then the IRS might be doing their thing to examine where the bribe money might have come from. Income tax evasion is a very serious offense. Ask the relatives of Al Capone.
    The entire revolt idea behind this is wrong in so many ways.
    It is no great secret where the money might be coming from. The question becomes who this man owns body and soul and where they work.
    It would not surprise me if the FBI didn’t find some charges against said individual in the near future.
    But then, the commander in chief of this country might or might not change in the next month or two.
    The bottom line is that until the administration changes no one in government is trustworthy that has to obey those above them.
    Especially if they belong to the losing side.
    Otherwise justice here has become a rather sour joke and the “untouchables” are no longer untouchable.
    No matter who actually won and no matter what they talk politically that is offensive to people, the bottom line is if they were elected by the rules and it is obvious that they were then it has to stand.

  • David

    Hillary has already publicly conceded and therefore can not accept
    the win by electoral college even if all the electors throw their ballots in her favor. a constitutional crisis will erupt if Trump does not win because the Traitors in the electoral college decide to turn their coats.
    blood will run in the streets of America and something tells me this whole thing is not by coincidence. it was planned!
    Be well all & Good luck.

  • BS1986

    What will these electors do when the people they just screwed over catch up to them?
    There will be violence.

  • David

    apparently Soros is bribing Electoral College electors with $150,000.00 to switch their votes & if that doesn’t work then they are threatening them with Death.

    • BS1986

      Soros is a terrorist who should be executed.

  • K

    A message to the dishonest electors. I am sure you see yourself as all high minded and everything. Let me tell you how I see you. Low life thieves. And a whole lot off other people will see you the same way. There just are not many who like thieves..

  • lostinthevalley

    “Mr. Trump goes out of his way to attack the cast of “Saturday Night Live” for bias.” Is this The Onion? I thought it was Michael’s blog. I fear we will hear from this elector that Trump wears an old corduroy robe while tweeting in bed, very unpresidential, and other shocking revelations.

  • Maple Curtain

    I hope Suprun finds his 37 or so voters to join him.

    There are a lot of guns and a lot of rope in America, and since civil war is a given anyway, it might as well get underway now, rather than 4 or 8 years from now.

    I wouldn’t expect Suprun and his 37 pals to see the second week of that civil war, but whatever…

  • billtheguy

    Any member of the electoral college votes opposite of what his/her state voted should be put in prison for 2 years, yea, that includes Christopher Suprun. Yes he took an oath to protect this country. He’s confused on his duty. His way of thinking is if you vote for the wrong candidate you should die.

  • Paul Patriot

    Patriots need to rise up if this election is tampered with. The left riots, protests, whines and cries….it is time freedom loving patriots rise up and start making your voices and presence heard, if you do not, and allow apathy, and normalcy bias get the best of you, then you don’t deserve to live free and deserve to have a trip to a FEMA camp.

    Time is now to start speaking up…..the liberal, left has been very successful in the commotion that they create, and folks limke George Soros have fiunded.

  • Paul Patriot

    Here is a thought….how about death threats on all those electors who will not vote the way they were elected to do so?

    Founding father approved I am certain. Just saying….

  • Constans Flavius Kim

    How do you elect the electors? Are they nominated? In a state where Trump won, the electors must be chosen all from the Republican list.

  • jakartaman

    All this anti Trump BS is just solidifying the Progressive party’s doom for years to come. I am loving it because they so richly deserve our scorn.

  • Cal

    The prince of darkness roams the earth looking for people to devour. Why not rogue electors who don’t give a d*** about anything. Praise the Lord, Jesus is at the door to bring the church home.

  • James Stamulis

    Funny how this elector thinks that pedophile Hillary or Rino Kasich makes a better president when both went against their promise to stand up for who the people picked and that they know better what is good for America and we the people are too stupid. What a traitor and as such belongs in prison along with Hillary and Obama!

    • Seen2013

      Note, Kasich narrowly avoided facing a general election recall under the basis he was neither nominated for President nor picked as a Vice President.

      • gnikt

        kasick is a sick man an opportunist, a man without soul.

  • Rick

    Suprun is obviously under some sort of mental duress and should be removed from his responsibilities immediately. If he swore an oath to uphold the Constitution 15 years ago, and the integrity of Presidential elections are still a big part of the Constitution, and if he cannot uphold that oath now, he must be removed as being mentally ill and not of sound mind, or charged with a Constitutional crime against this country and its voters, and stripped of his vote. He can’t have it both ways. As for the 3 million vote lead of Hillary, it may as well be 11 million, as we all know these are the illegals and other fraudulent votes they are still mining. This guy cries about unification, yet he knows that any attempt to change the vote will continue to divide the country and rip it apart to the point of a new Revolutionary war. I’m sure he’s just another weak snowflake wanting it’s way… And I’m sure the minute he illegally casts his vote, he will jump on a plane to New Zealand. Cowards, poor losers, liars, and deceives…wonder who these people worship? Don’t let them fool you.

  • Horiboyable .

    I have waited all my life to kill some evilness

  • LIZ THE SHIZ

    I expect the Democrats to concieve a plan to move large amounts of blue state voters into the heartland to insure themselves against another electorial college loss probably funded by the likes of George Soros. Watch out heartlanders, millennials , transgenders and EBT card holders are coming to a neighborhood near you

  • DB200

    Now something different about Mr Trump. In the NY Times article about him twittering against a new Airforce One, I find the following quote: “On the morning transition conference call with reporters, Mr. Trump’s spokesman, Jason Miller, said the president-elect sold his entire stock portfolio in June.”

    In June Mr Trump wasn’t sure about winning the Presidency. Under the assumption that he did not have to sell to pay for his (election campaign) bills, the question is: What made him do so?

    And then I have two more questions:
    Why did the reporters not ask the question above?
    What did Mr. Trump buy instead of shares?

  • lucila

    Did everyone just IGNORE pizza gate and the hard facts revealed that she and her ilk are all blood sacrificing pedophiles and satanic devotees with NO allegiance but to death and destruction as has been Hell and Bills MO for ever, yes and it crosses party lines, of course.

    • socalbeachdude

      That so-called story falls under the category of FAKE NEWS and no details of that conspiracy theory have ever been substantiated with any credible evidence whatsoever.

  • Jp

    Obama has done more damage in dividing our country. He never has stepped in to stop civil disobedience.

  • Seen2013

    “Throughout U.S. history electors have voted according to the will of the people more than 99 percent of the time, but in 2016 there is a concerted effort to persuade Republican electors not to vote for Trump.”

    In particular, Progressive Democrats have liberals convinced that the popular vote by national average is valid in violation of State’s powers that was not delegated to the Federal government, and Progressives are using to attempt altering the election that the majority of State’s determine their EC votes through the popular vote of their State.

    Bare in mind, the basis of the United States is derived by Nation-States who delegated some State powers to the Federal government and named to garner sympathies from the Belgium-Holland delegation of powers of the United Netherlands of the time.

    Christopher Suprun
    “…George W. Bush is an imperfect man, but he led us through the tragic days following the attacks. His leadership showed that America was a great nation. That was also the last time I remember the nation united. I watch Mr. Trump fail to unite America and drive a wedge between us.”

    Simply put, this statement ignoring Obama continued and expanded upon 20+ years of implementation especially W. Bush’s policies exposes Suprun as a Progressive Republican aka Republican In Name Only (RINO). No wonder, Bush Republicanism and Neocons support Obama behind closed door deals but publicly berate his policies.
    It’s kinda hard to unify behind sacrificing rights for security in the name of open border policies.

    Christopher Suprun
    “I believe electors should unify behind a Republican alternative, an honorable and qualified man or woman such as Gov. John Kasich of Ohio.”

    I suggest those not familiar with Kasich surviving a recall attempt should look into it.
    1). Kasich’s largest group of supporters support him AS Governor of Ohio not his Presidential run.
    2). The largest group who supported his Presidential run is also the group who wanted to implement a general election Recall Election if he won nomination or agreed to become a Vice President Pick of the eventual nominee.
    3). When Kasich failed to cinch nomination or picked VP, the petitions ultimately became DOA by Kasich’s largest group of supporters who saved his butt from the initial recall attempt. Hence why the petitions were left not turned in. Heck, the biggest fear before the pick was made was Trump was waiting to run out the clock on the deadline to recall Kasich as a VP pick.
    Let that burn in real good. If Kasich was picked as Trump’s VP, Trump wouldn’t have stood much of a chance in Ohio picking a Governor facing recall. Never Trump would have handed Hillary Clinton Ohio as a result.
    What Democrat’s Hamilton Electors are proposing seeking to nominate Kasich as a Republican alternative to Trump is strategically placing Ohio into Democrat’s camp in 2020. Bare in mind, those petitions were ready to be turned in; the only reason they weren’t is the majority of Ohioians right now support him as Governor making a recall attempt DOA. This would not be true if the Electoral College opts to nominate Kasich; it guarantees Ohio votes Democrat in 2020 with Kasich the Presidential incumbent. No need to reevaluating Democrat’s colossal screw-up in losing 2016 Presidential election if Republicans are dumb enough go this route… As Pelosi said, ‘I don’t think Democrats want a new direction’. Well, if Republicans are this dumb, they prove Pelosi right.

    • socalbeachdude

      More than 3 million illegal aliens are to blame for that and all of those need to be rounded up and deported.

  • guest

    I’ll bet he’s going to end up in a new house on Lake Champlain…right next door to Bernie.

    • socalbeachdude

      Donald Trump will be inaugurated as President of he United States on January 20, 2017 and then can start much needed renovations on the White House before moving into that rundown shabby shack sometime much later in 2017.

      • guest

        Just to clarify for you I was referring to the “elector” cited in the article, not Trump. Do you still want to “up vote” your own comment.

  • Robert

    Hey Michael, remember all the Diesel engines sitting at Benson, AZ? They are still there. They are the engines that used to transport coal for power plants. When Obama shut down the coal industry, the engines became excess. If Trump breathes life back into coal, then hopefully thousands of new jobs will appear and the engines come back to life.

    Sorry to go off topic but thought an update ok.

    Cheers.

  • Orac4Prez

    Its day 5 of the recount in Wisconsin. 1 million votes counted and Trump has increased his lead. Hillary’s helpers are going to have to find a lot of absentee votes and scour the graves for names of Democrat voters who failed to lodge an absentee vote…. but would have except for an untimely demise.

  • seekless

    No, its over quit hoping for a dem win your one the wrong side.

  • rentslave

    There’s an disinterested party in these proceedings:The international gambling houses who laid 15-1 against Trump getting 300 or more Electoral Votes.

    • socalbeachdude

      Anyone who made such a wrong way bet lost and paid out and needs to just get over it.

  • Fleming_007

    Either way, civil war is coming no matter who’s in office. I absolutely refuse Hillary to be president. I don’t support Trump but I’ll take him over her and I’d be willing to fight to keep it that way and I’m sure all the liberals are willing to do the same to get Trump out. So yeah, war is coming.

    • socalbeachdude

      Laughably false as to any “civil war.”

  • socalbeachdude

    Wisconsin recount is working well for… TRUMP! Results so far show it was The Donald who was under-counted in the contested state

    Trump prevailed in the Badger State by 22,871 votes. The ongoing recount has widened his margin by 146 so far. Green Party candidate Jill Stein paid $3.5 million to finance the recount despite winning just 1 per cent of the vote. ‘We’re not finding any problems with the machines,’ a Wisconsin Elections Commission spokesman said.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4010278/Wisconsin-recount-working-Results-far-TRUMP-counted.html

  • Bryce Ward

    Im not a fan of Trump but it’s delusional to think that he’s not going to be the next president.

  • Pig Farmer Bill

    Like it will change a thing. These attention seeking fools will change nothing. Trump won by a wide margin, flipped a lot of blue states. These cry babies need to grow up. This is the real world. Obama’s fantasy land will be closing next month.

  • MargfromTassie

    Boy – you Yanks are crazy. We in the rest of the developed world are looking at your election process and are shaking our heads. FFS get rid of the Electoral College! The popular vote was won by Hillary and she should be President. She didn’t get as many votes as Obama did both times because she had a lot of baggage. But she still won. And don’t kid yourself that the cheating and voter disenfranchisement was just on her side. Stop looking at only those websites that confirm your pre-existing biases. This election was a choice between gonorrhoea and syphillis – you can do better America !

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