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Read This First Before You Decide That Preppers Are Crazy

Do you believe that preppers are a few cards short of a full deck?  Do you assume that anyone that is “preparing for doomsday” does not have their elevator going all the way to the top floor?  Well, you might want to read this first before you make a final decision that all preppers are crazy.  The information that you are about to read shook me up a bit when I first looked it over.  To be honest, I had no idea how incredibly vulnerable our economic system is to a transportation disruption.  I am continually getting emails and comments on my websites asking “how to prepare” for what is coming, so when I came across this information I knew that I had to share it with all of you.  Hopefully what you are about to read will motivate you to prepare like never before, and hopefully you will share this information with others.

Originally, I was going to write an article about the rising unemployment in Europe today.  Did you know that unemployment in the eurozone is now at a 15 year high?  It has risen for 10 months in a row with no end in sight.

But I have written dozens of articles about the economic crisis in Europe already.  So before starting on that article I started thinking of all the “preparation” questions I have been getting lately and I went over and checked out one of my favorite preparation websites: shtfplan.com.

Well, an article had just been posted over there about a report put out by the American Trucker Associations entitled “When Trucks Stop, America Stops“.

I went and found that original report and I was stunned as I read it.

The truth is that our “just in time” inventory and delivery systems leave us incredibly vulnerable to a nationwide disaster.

You see, it is very expensive to hold and store inventory, so most manufacturers and retailers rely on a continual flow of deliveries that are scheduled to arrive “just in time”, and this significantly reduces their operating expenses.

This is considered to be good business practice for manufacturers and retailers, but it also means that if there was a major nationwide transportation disruption that our economic system would grind to a halt almost immediately.

Once store shelves are picked clean, they would not be able to be replenished until trucks could get back on the road.  In the event of a major nationwide disaster, that could be quite a while.

So what could potentially cause a nationwide transportation shutdown?

Well, it is easy to imagine a lot of potential scenarios – a volcanic eruption, a historic earthquake, an EMP attack, a solar megastorm, a war, a major terror attack, an asteroid strike, a killer pandemic, mass rioting in U.S. cities, or even martial law.

If something caused the trucks to stop running, life in America would immediately start changing.

So exactly what would that look like?

The following is an excerpt from the report mentioned above put out by the American Trucker Associations entitled “When Trucks Stop, America Stops“….

*****

A Timeline Showing the Deterioration of Major Industries Following a Truck Stoppage

The first 24 hours

• Delivery of medical supplies to the affected area will cease.
• Hospitals will run out of basic supplies such as syringes and catheters within hours. Radiopharmaceuticals will deteriorate and become unusable.
• Service stations will begin to run out of fuel.
• Manufacturers using just-in-time manufacturing will develop component shortages.
• U.S. mail and other package delivery will cease.

Within one day

• Food shortages will begin to develop.
• Automobile fuel availability and delivery will dwindle, leading to skyrocketing prices and long lines at the gas pumps.
• Without manufacturing components and trucks for product delivery,
assembly lines will shut down, putting thousands out of work.

Within two to three days

• Food shortages will escalate, especially in the face of hoarding and consumer panic.
• Supplies of essentials—such as bottled water, powdered milk, and
canned meat—at major retailers will disappear.
• ATMs will run out of cash and banks will be unable to process
transactions.
• Service stations will completely run out of fuel for autos and trucks.
• Garbage will start piling up in urban and suburban areas.
• Container ships will sit idle in ports and rail transport will be disrupted, eventually coming to a standstill.

Within a week

• Automobile travel will cease due to the lack of fuel. Without autos and busses, many people will not be able to get to work, shop for groceries, or access medical care.
• Hospitals will begin to exhaust oxygen supplies.

Within two weeks

• The nation’s clean water supply will begin to run dry.

Within four weeks

• The nation will exhaust its clean water supply and water will be safe for drinking only after boiling. As a result gastrointestinal illnesses will increase, further taxing an already weakened health care system.

This timeline presents only the primary effects of a freeze on truck travel. Secondary effects must be considered as well, such as inability to maintain telecommunications service, reduced law enforcement, increased crime, increased illness and injury, higher death rates, and likely, civil unrest.

*****

Earlier in the report, the reasons why America’s water supply would be in such jeopardy are described in greater detail….

According to the American Water Works Association, Americans drink more than one billion glasses of tap water per day. For safety and security reasons, most water supply plants maintain a larger inventory of supplies than the typical business. However, the amount of chemical storage varies significantly and is site specific. According to the Chlorine Institute, most water treatment facilities receive chlorine in cylinders (150 pounds and one ton cylinders) that are delivered by motor carriers. On average, trucks deliver purification chemicals to water supply plants every seven to 14 days. Without these chemicals, water cannot be purified and made safe for drinking. Without truck deliveries of purification chemicals, water supply plants will run out of drinkable water in 14 to 28 days. Once the water supply is drained, water will be deemed safe for drinking only when boiled. Lack of clean drinking water will lead to increased gastrointestinal and other illnesses, further taxing an already weakened healthcare system.

Can you see why I always recommend that you make sure that you and your family have access to fresh water and a way to purify it?

This report should be very sobering for all of us.

What would you and your family do if you had no food, no clean water and the stores were shut down because their supplies were gone?

An article by Tess Pennington entitled “Emergency Items: What Will Disappear First” contains a list of 100 things that are likely to disappear from store shelves first.  The following are the first 10 things on her list….

1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy…target of
thieves; maintenance etc.)
2. Water Filters/Purifiers
3. Portable Toilets
4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 – 12 months to become dried, for home
uses.
5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile
ANY!)
6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.
7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.
8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
10. Rice – Beans – Wheat

You can find the rest of the list right here.

Most Americans just assume that they will always be able to run out to the supermarket or to Wal-Mart and buy anything that they need.

But if the trucks stop running that will change almost overnight.

After reading the information above, does anyone out there still believe that preppers are crazy?

The truth is that there are good, solid reasons why millions of Americans have been storing up food, water filters and other supplies.

Our world is becoming increasingly unstable, and all of us need to get educated about how to prepare for the difficult years that are coming.

One nightmarish event can change everything that we take for granted in a single moment.

Just remember what happened after Hurricane Katrina.  Even though that was only a regional disaster, millions of people had their lives completely turned upside down by that tragedy.

Don’t make the mistake of assuming that just because the U.S. has always known tremendous peace and prosperity since World War II that things will always be that way.

Our lives will only continue to be “normal” as long as the trucks continue running.

When the trucks stop running in America, there will be mass chaos.

Are you prepared for that?

  • callmecordelia1

    The water is what worries me the most. We use water for EVERYTHING. Just try to not use water for even a couple hours. I have quite a bit of water stored, but even “quite a bit” will be gone in a few weeks. I don’t think most people realize how precarious our supply chain is.

    • Michael

      Yes, what you have said is very, very true.

      Michael

      • Scott

        Michael, there is a good website for locating nearby springs for good quality free spring water:

        http://www.findaspring.com

        Purchase some clean new bottles and start stocking up now, the water can be stored indefinitely as long as they’re capped and sealed properly. If the bottles need to be re-filled in an emergency though, they will have to be cleaned and sterilized to prevent algae buildup.

    • Gary2

      When you live next to the great lakes water is not an issue. I can not imagine living in a place where water shortages exist. All I have even known is almost too much water.

      • StrayCat1911

        Gary,
        Hate to bust your bubble, but the water in the Great Lakes is NOT the cleanest in the world, especially near big cities like Chicago. Every summer, the authorities have to close the beaches because the E. Coli count goes through the roof.
        In addition on the Michigan side, you get a lot of minerals in the water; that’s why it’s brown coming out of the rivers. Not sure what that would do to your guts but it probably won’t be nice.
        If I was gonna use lake water, I’d make sure I was way away from a big city and filter the hell out of the water to be sure.

        • rickisadick

          go to youtube and learn how to make a home made water filter with 2 5 gallon buckets and ceramic water filters. You can dump very nasty water in and get great drinking water out. Look into a berkey water filter system also.
          p.s. Hate to burst your bubble!! :)

    • Bone Idle

      Water is even more important for pushing the waste products (sewage) through the system. In large cities underground sewage is moved away by electric pumps to treatment areas. No power = No power for pumps. Sewage backs up and you have a disease problem within 10 days.

      The introduction of underground sewage removal in London during the 1800’s virtually wiped out cholera from the city within weeks.

      Within a couple of weeks large cities with many apartment buildings become inhabitable.

    • MisterC

      You can thank the “Just On Time” system for running inventory. JIT just doesn’t work. Where I work people all to often will be standing around not able to do anything because they have no parts, on overtime! Ugh.

    • Rhynn

      This is pretty dire. As far as water goes however at least dirty water is better than none at all. So long as you can make a fire for boiling, that is. Even toilet water will do. The problem is what happens if water pressure disappears altogether and water can’t be drawn from a tap, toilet, hydrant or hose anywhere.

      Purification tablets and filters are all well and good but those supplies are a lot more finite than good old matches. People have been purifying water for a long time. This might be one of the few things mentioned that can always be worked out.

      I would be more concerned about having to either jerry-rig a waste removal system on the fly, inside. Talk about gastrointestinal and other problems. Try having nowhere to dispose of waste for days on end because of something like fallout or other radiation, firefights between citizens and each other or police/military, or extreme climate issues.

    • Jodi

      Water is a worry for me too! We have those blue 55 gallon jugs and I was reading yesterday that those will sustain a family of 4 for only 14 days. We only have 3 of them and not much space. Kinda scary! We are stocking up on the 5 gallon containers and those stack pretty well and they are affordable!

    • Karel

      I will call you Anne!

      • callmecordelia1

        :) Just make sure it’s with an E!

  • Laura

    My emergency supply includes a good stash of duct tape!

    • Joel

      haaa, you probably watch the last Mythbusters episode. “Duct Tape Island”. You can do a lot of things with duct tape… :o)

  • Michael Crisafulli

    From the article…”Consider a truck stoppage in the states around Washington, D.C. The federal government will be slowed down within a week and could grind to a halt within two or three weeks.”

    This is good news. Perhaps we should blockade D.C. now…

  • mondobeyondo

    SHTFplan is one of my fave websites as well, even though I’m not an active commenter on there. (So many websites, so little time. hehe!) But I enjoy reading the articles, discussions and comments on there.

    When the trucks stop running, and the planes stop flying, and the trains stop rolling – the country will grind to a halt.

    What do planes, trains and trucks have in common?
    They all run on fuel based on petroleum products, namely oil, jet fuel, diesel and gasoline. Shut off or control the oil, and you have a choke hold on the American economy.

  • CJ

    I’ve passed it on to family. What loss could there really be if you store goods? So I’m crazy! Twenty-five years from now I won’t have to buy breakfast, lunch and/or dinner.

    Quite honestly, I’m about to give up on friends and family…

    Signed,

    Lone Ant in a world of laughing Grasshoppers

    • Jodi

      There is no loss! I feel the same way about my food storage. I’ll have plenty to eat in the future.

    • http://yahoo.com richard swank

      MY FAMILY THINKS I AM NUTS.

      • rickisadick

        Just wait, in a couple of years they will be calling you a genius! Or kill you and take your food! :)

  • Ozmo

    Michael,

    Great Article!!!!!

    I cannot say that enough. I do wish you would write more articles about how fragile our system is in this aspect. People do not realize how quickly they will run out of food. I realized this when I had to move out of the corrections business.

    I can honestly say I don’t care what people think of me. I prep for my family, and I believe God has awoken this in me for the dark times ahead.

    Again, I loved this article…..This my be typical American thought going on here and I will apologize in advance, but I really don’t care about the Greek government. Sorry, I know several people who live there now and they are considered preppers and they are doing just fine. Again I think it goes to show those who have taken time and listened to what God is saying and showing us we will make it through these hard times.

    Michael,

    God Bless, I hope all is well with you and your family.

    P.S. I’m still working on organization of that information for you. (If you want to edit this last part please feel free)

    • Michael

      Ozmo:

      I know sometimes you disagree with me (which is perfectly okay), and I am glad that you really enjoyed this article. :)

      Michael

  • mondobeyondo

    The hand that rocks the [oil] cradle, is the hand that rules the world. Once you realize that, you’ll begin to understand world politics a little better. You’ll have a few more pieces to add to the big puzzle picture.

    What does Iraq have a lot of? Oil. What does Iran have a lot of? Even more oil. China, India and emerging third world economies want oil. America NEEDS oil. This country’s economy would collapse without easy access to oil. Our domestic economy is based on cheap oil. Planes, trains, and automobiles, not to mention farms, all need oil based products to function..

    Afghanistan has no oil. So why are our soldiers there? Because it’s a potential gateway for countries that DO have oil!! Our government could care less about “freedom and democracy for the Afghan people” and so forth. That excuse is just a front – a nice cover story for the evening news.

    • http://Gardenforyourlife.blogspot.com Ken

      We have more oil than Saudi Arabia! Our government, Obama, won’t let us drill for it.

  • Alex

    I am glad that we have a lot of mineral springs here, a lot of highlands and natural springs as well. One day clean water for drinking will be a valuable currency.

  • Craig

    That first picture reminds me of the movie “Fargo”.

  • tappedops

    Speaking of prep… there was a group of well informed (culturally)people in my home town that over the past few years bought up thousands of cases of 45ACP ammo at very reasonable prices…NOW there rolling in it… all the ammos gone and there writing there own ticket…

  • 007

    An economic collapse will stop those trucks. A good round of inflation or deflation will keep the goods from coming. Riots will stop the trucks. A spike in gas prices or a gas shortage could stop the trucks. And of course, a public that has no income and no jobs will stop the trucks. These are the most likely causes for transportation disruption.

  • Hans

    Comments from an outsider:

    The scenario shown above does not need any specific big event to kick in. It seems to be inevitable through a combination of factors.

    1.Involvement in costly wars. It costs resources, money, equipment and manpower. It shows vulnerabilities. If Afghanistan and Iraq keeps you busy for so long, will others not try their luck? Even if you win militarily, you lose “hearts & minds”.

    2.Financial system fraud. Wall Street and the big banks are largely responsible for the current financial crisis. This, coupled with a dysfunctional political system, leads to a lack of trust in the US. Fewer outsiders are interested in US bonds. The unsustainable debt levels and artificial stock and derivates markets shows that a collapse has to happen. Is it any wonder that the BRICS countries are moving away from the dollar?

    3.Dollar collapse/devaluation. Higher prices for everything, including fuel. How many truckers will work at a loss? How many shops will want products if the public is unable to buy it? Will the US be able to afford fuel on the open market if nobody wants the dollar?

    4.Infrastructure collapse. Just one example. is your power grid reliable? How much was invested here recently and how is it maintained? Any long disruption to your electricity supply will also mean that water purification plants will cease to function. People with “money” in the banks will face a rude surprise. Most “money” and stocks exist only as data on computer systems. Computers rely on electricity.

    5.Unemployment will not improve. You have moved manufacturing offshore in the interest of short- time profit. Not only do you lose the factories, but also the skills required to operate factories.

    A combination of spending more than you earn and consuming more than you produce can only have a bad ending. Prepping does have merits.

  • http:goldenladyfun.blogspot.com Pat

    Two years ago here in Spain we had a strike of truckers. Food disappeared off the shelf in two days! There was no gasoline at the gas stations, and we had no cooking fuel since our fuel is brought in by truck.

    Thankfully the strike was over in a week. But it was scary and a lesson learned.

    I might also add that the government and the unions worked together in creating this strike. Here in Europe there are no strikes that are not part of a bigger political agenda and under government control. We just had a teachers strike on Friday.

    Many countries have been exempted from the U.S. sanctions against Iranian oil including Spain. But in the U.S. oil is slowly being cut off so that you will be more dependent on foreign oil.

    Also, it has recently come to light that Mexican truckers are being given preferential treatment on American roads at the complete disregard of the American independent trucker.

    My advice is that you get ready. If I were you I would expect strikes due to rising fuel costs, a very hot summer leading to the absence of necessities. Next winter will be very cold with many people without provisions.

    This is done on purpose and you must fight back. You need at least three months of supplies including water.

    The best thing is to have a small garden and raise your own food. If that is not the possible I suggest the following for your food: 1. Protein from hemp or whey. (Meat is not a good source of protein because of the hormones and anti biotics they use). 2. flax seed containing Essential Fatty Acids (Omega 3, Omega 6 and Omega 9). 3. Vitamins: D3, E (8 forms), A, K, (Q10 if you are elderly or have any chronic disease) in therapeutic amounts. 4. minerals: Magnesium, Zinc, Selenium; Lysine L.Arginine 5. Broad spectrum probiotics. You must have 4 liters of water per day per person. You can not buy it all at once so you must store a little at a time. I prefer distilled water instead of the usual bottled water. 5. Do not forget toilet paper and other personal hygene items. If you need pharmaceuticals you must stock up.

    Use Himalayan crystal salt not table salt. It has 84 minerals not just 1. Nuts are good. Avoid complex carbohydrates like pastas, rice, potatoes (sweet potatoes are good),artificial sweeteners, high fructose corn syrup, GMO foods, additives, junk foods, manufactured foods, soda pops, cookies, potato chips,white flour, etc. These things cause diabetes and other problems. You may need other foods but these are the basics in my opinion.

    Reduce your caloric intake. Use coconut oil. Stay fit, healthy, avoid medications. How can you survive if you are ill?

    I like the idea of trapping your own food but that involves going outside and exposing yourself to roving gangs.

    Be aware that most people will not be prepared and will try to take your survival provisions. Even your government has stated that they have a right to your stuff. Hide your stuff and protect it.

    Finally, buy cheap stuff with which to barter. I like to sell affordable bits of gold. But you can buy copper pennies, seeds, batteries, flashlights, first aid kits, band aids, shoes, alcohol, etc. The list goes on.

    There is plenty of information around. My family and I discuss this situation daily. We can not afford all that we need. In fact, most of what is available to Americans are not available here in Europe. But we do the best we can.

    We have found youtube an excellent source of information to learn things that we would otherwise have no access to here in Europe.

    We are planning to return to North America to take care of my mother. We have located cheap rural land on which to build a house and farm.

    Finally, you are welcome to contact me if you have any questions. Read more about the take over of your water supply here: goldenladyfun.blogspot.com

    • http://yahoo.com richard swank

      GOOD INFO PAT THANKS !!

    • http://Gardenforyourlife.blogspot.com Ken

      You can grow a lot on a small plot, but you must condition the soil as most soil is so depleted. It only grows grass if you use enough fertilizer. I grow a lot on my corner lot in a suburban subdivision. You can too.
      Gardenforyourlife.blogspot.com

  • Airborne 71

    The best Hand operated portable water filter is the Katardin water filter ,YES ITS EXPENSIVE ! But one filter lasts for a long time and the last thing you want to expierence is drinking bad water . The least expensive I have found is on E-Bay , you will pay about $ 200.00 for one . but you can use it anywhere ,I have one thing to add to the above list in the article : A well stocked First aid kit ! To include the blood stopper packets used by our Military . REI has those in stock and of course E-Bay as well .

  • James Potkins

    Hi Michael

    Have been reading for months but this is my first time post. I live in the UK and we have just had direct expierence of fuel shortages. We have a potential strike for the fuel lorry drivers coming up. The government gave advice to fill up our tanks and keep fuel in jerry cans. The result? Panic buying, petrol shortages, price increases and every petrol station in my area running out. In TWO days. So that timeline is accurate. We are truly vunerable to this supply problem and petrol is still going up in price. Thats £6.37 or $10.21 a gallon!

    • Michael

      James:

      Great comment and it is always good to hear from someone in the UK. :)

      Michael

  • Observer

    Rain catchment and Millbank bags would be the answer to the water problem.

    With the bags, you still have to boil the water after it drips out but it filters any bits of bugs/bird crap/dirt/etc in the water that you would rather not drink with the water.

    God help us.

    • Observer

      Something I should add, I can’t find a place that sells millbank bags anywhere, there was one place in the UK that did but they stopped as far as I know.

      If anyone knows where to get them, It would be great if you could put a link in the comments here.

  • Big Dave

    Water was the biggest concern I had until I attached gutters to my metal roof and started collecting rain. I can collect 1500 gallons an inch. I then use a five gallon jug to fill a Berky water filter in the house. We have been drinking filtered rain water for five years exclusively. It tastes so pure my boys will drink nothing else. My brother does not have a metal roof and he does likewise. Unless your shingles are more than 10 years old it is safe to filter and drink. Check with the manufacturer. We have more water than we need!

    • http://yahoo.com richard swank

      BIG DAVE OR ANYONE I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO BUY A BIG BERKEY WATER FILTER FOR ABOUT 2 MONTHS CAN’T GET ONE THEY WILL NOT DELIVER TO THE STATE OF CALIF. CAN ANY ONE HELP ME OUT WITH SOME INFO TO GET ONE. THANKS

      • rickisadick

        go on ebay and buy the filters and parts and then you go to youtube and find a video on how to make your own with 2 five gallon food grade buckets with lids. Wah Lah! You just saved over $100.

      • rickisadick

        type in BERKEY REPLACEMENT KIT on ebay for all you need and a seperate search for BERKEY FILTER. The black ones are better than the white ones. They filter chlorine I think.

      • MisterC

        Get a Dalton filter from Survival Enterprises, http://www.se1.us They are better than Berkey filters.

      • http://Gardenforyourlife.blogspot.com Ken

        Take a trip to the nearest other state and get one. Have a out of state family member get you one and send it to you. They won’t sell to Kalifornia as there are to many stupid nanny state regulations. Better yet MOVE OUT! Vote to better your chances of survival by voting with your feet.

    • Horse

      You enjoy that little bit of Fukushima 131 you get in every last yummy glass full.

  • anne bright

    Buy a quality water purifier. If one cannot afford the few hundred dollars cancel cable and fancy cell phone programs for a few months and SAVE the money. Also, buy a pound of Pool Shock – store in GLASS container AWAY from any food, etc. It is enough to purify 16,000 gallons of water. Visit http://www.survivalblog.com and read pertinent articles from the more than HALF MILLION archived. STOCKPILE all essentials to survive for at least a month or two. After that, we are all probably dead anyway.

  • ScoutMotto

    At this point, the ONLY thing I don’t feel prepared for is having to defend my residence when all this breaks loose. Oh, I have arms and ammo, but just the idea of having to fend people off with hefty force is a thought I wish I did not have to entertain.

  • http://www.MiddleTennesseePreppers.com Aaron

    I have a 520 gallon SureWater Tank for storage inside my garage. However, I became worried about me having to shoot a robber inside my house and the risk that a bullet may go through the wall which would puncture my water storage tank.

    So now I have also invested in a large number of 5 gallon tanks and a crate of bottled 16.9 ounce bottles. You may laugh but a bullet through the cases of water will cause me to loose far fewer gallons than if a bullet goes through the big tank!

    Something to thing about – Backups for your Backups!

    God Bless and Be Safe!

  • TX4Life

    I would like to know how water can be purified with pool chlorine. I have some but have no idea how much to use to purify a gallon of water for drinking.

  • Paul

    Prudence is thinking in the hot summer of the cold winter.

  • Paul

    Storage sucks up peaks and levels out valleys.

    If you put your storage from the warehouse onto the road, you are dependent on road conditions.

    Just-in-time was thought up by those MBA guys to minimise “dead” costs.

    Storage was thought up by engineers to minimise disruptions.

    When engineering counts less than accountancy an organization goes down the drain.

    • Optimistic Pessimist

      From the UK
      Unfortunately I can fully verify your last two statements.
      Last Engineering company I worked for we (Engineers) had a constant battle with management as they just saw the storage cost rather than the value of having a part in stock. Less inventory = less cost = happier shareholder = Dismayed engineer who can’t get the part due to Just in time suppliers who don’t have the part in stock as they manufacture just in time = 2 weeks manufacture + 2 weeks delivery from China = Pushes the Critical Path out on the gantt chart = Frustrates many people in the company trying to do a good job = Customer wondering why the service department can’t turn their product round in a week

      What a life!

  • Paul

    Who needs bottled water, when the pipe delivers higher quality directly into the home at much lower costs?

    On vacation, when I drive every day, my tank lasts about a week. If there is fuel shortage, it would last much longer, if nobody steals it.

    My garbage can needs 2 weeks to fill up.

    I’d probably need to buy a bicycle. Current bicycles let you drive 20km/h quite easily. Make sure you take a good chain and lock with you, lock frame and both wheels to something immovable, and put your bike beside a better looking one. :-)

    With the motorway empty of cars, I could use it for a direct route to my office.

    I just bought myself some LED torches with handcrank.

    And if the trucks fail, there is still the army.

    And yes, if the trucks stop, then they stand somewhere. All you need is to hotwire them …

  • grandpa

    If people play their cards right ,doing away with those who stand in the way of keeping things from getting worse is key. Not only that but actually things would recover beyond the false talk of an actual recovery and stores would be stocked nice and possibly function under their own line of credit.

  • James in OK

    They think preppers are crazy, because we question society’s “easy life” nature. America needs to wake up. Prepping is a personal responsibility. You can’t rely on others, especially the Gov’t.

  • paul
  • http://www.thehomeforsurvival.com Survivor Mike

    Love the site. Agree with you that Mac over at SHTFPlan.com is awesome. Read it everyday.

    Also agree that these past natural disasters are a sign of things to come. I’ve written on my site that living through hurricanes, outages, etc. have made us realize that we are only a few days away from chaos.

    Great post.

  • paul

    Water is easy to come by if you have electricity.

    Humidity in the air condenses on cold surfaces, like inside a fridge. Operate the fridge with open doors and collect the water that is running down.

    You can get electricity from solar cells and windmills.
    A camping fridge operates with heat. The sun supplies heat.

    It isn’t really rocket science.

  • hefsmaster

    Michael, Why do you leave comments restricted. It has done nothing to prevent people from getting abusive and rude. Least of all gary…
    Who has been increasingly getting more vitriolic and abusive….
    One apple is ruining the tree, just saying…

    • Michael

      You should see all of the stuff that I do censor out.

      Michael

      • mondobeyondo

        And people wonder why I don’t start my own blog.. heheh!

        I will, eventually – provided I have the time and resources. Now is not the time, though.

      • hefsmaster

        I’m sure of that. But my point comes to this. Bloggers do what they do for the sake of getting the truth. Now i cannot tell who is being a true schmuck because we will never see their true colors. Being anonymous or the semblance thereof is likening it to alcohol and it’s ability to tell the truth.

        If you’re reading them all then put them (violators) on complete censorship till they clean it up. I want to know what people are thinking, even if it’s completely devoid of logic.

        Who’s kidding who? There is no decorum anymore….

  • Paul

    A solar cooker cooks and bakes without firewood, gas or electricity:
    http://www.solarcookers.org

    • TX4Life

      I can brown a casserole in one in less than 2 hours. It is amazing how quickly a solar cooker heats up with no work involved. Love the Sun Oven.

  • wheedle

    WOW :-(

  • Barn Cat

    Hyperinflation and the resulting economic collapse is the biggest danger to the transportation of goods across the country. The Fed has printed trillions of bogus dollars over the last few years. Eventually we’ll have hyperinflation like Zimbabwe did. Zimbabwe once had 100 trillion dollar notes. Think about what that means for our economy. The other consequence of hyperinflation is the world abandoning the dollar as the world’s reserve currency. We will see the day when OPEC no longer accepts dollars as payment for oil. Once people can’t afford their $5,000 electric bills the whole electrical grid will go down. No electricity, no commerce, no working truck stops and gas stations. Hyperinflation and the complete destruction of our economy is a 100% certainty. The only question is when. 6 months? 1 year? 2 years?

  • Josh

    In honor of the truckers who keep my belly full:
    East Bound and Down by Jerry Reed
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnRwQjTYfGI

    • mondobeyondo

      Every time I watch the 1977 movie “Convoy”, I think about what truckers do to help our economy. Even though that movie is about truckers delivering alcoholic beverages across state lines.

      • http://earthypoetgrrl.wordpress.com Beth

        No, that was Smokey and the Bandit, right? LOVED Jackie Gleason in it! I run a true blue Mom and Pop truckstop, definitely a dinosaur in the time of super-truck plazas. We’re really well known for our home cooking. General consensus of truckers is that of being disgruntled for high and rising fuel prices, big companies underbidding on the independent drivers, and a complete lack of appreciation. THEY know what would happen if they all decided to shut down their rigs for a day!

  • http://ginafrost6@gmail.com Gina Frost

    John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
    Romans 3:23 For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.
    Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death,but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
    Romans 5:8 But God commended His love toward us in that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us.
    Ephesians 2:8-9 For by Grace are you saved through faith ,it is the gift of God and not of ourselves.
    Not of works lest any man should boast.

    Because God is righteous He has to punish sin,but because He is merciful,He sent His Son to die and pay for our sins. This Easter season I wish everyone would stop and think of why we celebrate Easter. The only way to prepare for whats to come is to acknowledge the fact that we were all born sinners . Acknowledge the fact that Christ died on the cross for our sins and ask him for forgiveness for our sins and accept Him as the only way to get to Heaven. It was Christ shed blood. Christ paid the price. It was our sin that has separated us from God . He has always loved us and has made a way for us to get to Heaven. We just have to accept it. it is a free gift. Our you prepared?

  • Mainuh1

    You can only store so much and technology fails with time unless maintained – eventually you will have to live off the land – forage for food and water. You will also have to fight to keep it. We will have a Mad Max world.

    • rickisadick

      buy heirloom seeds now, learn to garden, raise rabbits and chickens.

  • Syrin

    I have been telling people to be ready. I know I am. You will need weapons. Once supplies become scarce, you’ll have brain dead hordes of GARYS running around feeling entitled to take what ever they want by force.

    FYI- Grocery stores only keep a three day supply of food on hand. That’s how long you have.

    • Optimistic Pessimist

      RE: FYI
      If there is a rush then you’ll be lucky if the stores goods are there for a day.

      As we have proved in the UK over the past week that petrol stations run out within a day given a rush.

  • Robert

    Remember that the Feds own the interstate system and have the authority to close it to non-government use. That is really all it would take to trigger this, which would be an excuse for martial law.

  • karen

    All you need is a strike and truckers will not be on the highway, look at the price for fuel can you guess how much it is to fill up a semi, both tanks hundreds of dollar you have a lot of independent drivers, and the price for tags on the trailer VERY high. You should not depend on anyone but yourself in hard times, because most people are not going to help you, they will rob you that you can be sure of. I know it boggles the mind with all that will happen but when I first found out 6 years ago I was very scared and upset, took me awhile to believe, but now you don’t have the time to sit and ponder, I am a single parent my daughter is grown now and I have grandchildren. At first people called me crazy even my daughter and did that hurt because we are very close. But I had a purpose and nothing could stop me my sister thinks I’m nuts but I know it going to get very bad and I will do or die my family will not starve my daughter finally understands she knows what is to happen and who cares if others think your off your rocker. They are nothing but words and I will be ready. I do all of this buy myself for 6 years it’s hard to have small children working the garden I won’t have a garden left ha!!! I work and raise a large garden always have chickens and so on, and I love it 24/7 there is all kinds of help on the web everything you can image about gardening just remember the area you live in so it will be right with your seasons. Buy adult chickens you can have eggs then, not having to wait until there grown which takes months, Mcmurry hatcher has a web where you can buy meat chickens X jumbo they will be sent through the mail, they go real fast in about 4 months they are ready to eat. You can do it, it’s all in the mind.

  • Pete Bromley

    The worst thing I think we should prep for would be a zombie apocolypse.Just the idea of the dead rising to eat the living,plus all of the breakdown of basic services and no more organized government as the dead overrun military positions and the infection spreads geometrically….the horrors that await us……

    • rickisadick

      I should change my handle from ************** to peteis…. well you get my drift don’cha petey!

  • Rancher

    Countryside folks are the best IMHO to handle any and all the above. Most countryside folks are not grid tied other than electricity and that can be overcome. Been there done that.

    It is the hoards depending on public utilities which will primarily suffer and die off. Good luck on that as all good things come to an end.

    The other day I was showing another prepper wishing to join us the ant hills scattered around the Ranch here. He learned they were at work already with snow still remaining feet away. They were out gathering debris and bugs to repair and improve their hill.

    All spring/summer/fall they labor endlessly to gather in their prepper supplies so they can endure the long winter buried alive under feet of snow. They are warm and cozy then surrounded by their heat producing pile of decomposing plant debris and insulation from pine needles and small stuff surrounding them.

    If another bug who did not prep comes along and wants into their heated well stocked home during the long winter crisis… they are attacked and killed and dragged into the mound for dinner. The ants do not share with non preppers…. get my drift?

    By the way most self titled preppers will also perish rather quickly…. they just refuse to prep in a well balanced way and spend the cash to do it.

  • Andy Cowling

    In the UK we have had some “dress rehearsals” for this.

    Fuel transport strikes – or the threat of them – caused a panic which led to garages being depleted of their stocks within hours of the warning. The strikes didn’t happen yet – but already many motorists were unable to get fuel after most petrol stations ran out. The stocks kept by garages don’t cope for for long
    Being snowed in – last winter our town got snowed in for a week. People panicked that this could go on weeks, so went and picked the shelves of the local store clean. The local store is normally always stocked – but within a day it was out of all the essentials. The trucks then couldn’t get in to re-supply the store due to the snow – but if people hadn’t have panicked, we probably would not have been in such a bad situation.

    So its not just the stock levels, its the demand peaks which seem to kick in during events like this which only make things worse.

    Neither of these 2 events were significant in the end, but they certainly highlighted our dependency on supply chains in the UK.

  • JAH666

    Supply chain disruption would affect water purification and delivery rapidly, oh yeah. Large metropolitan areas, and even smaller cities, have in recent years bowed to the green movements and begun switching to costly waste-water recycling systems to recover potable water. The systems and chemicals used for these processes are more involved both in use of high-tech and electricity. As the supplies run out during a transport disruption the processes involved in water purification would dwindle. The systems that purify the water would necessarily be shut down. Even water from rivers and reservoirs would have to be purified. The simple methods that rely on chlorine would then be stressed. Water rationing would be enforced quickly in such areas. “Unwashed Masses” would take on a whole new meaning in the hives that are our metropolitan centers.

  • Metzen

    The first video on this page will show you how to make a 1000 gallon cistern as cheaply as I know how: http://www.amesresearch.com/bluemax.htm. Of course you would want to stagger the blocks as usual, and fill them with concrete and rebar (though mortar between blocks shouldn’t be necessary, so even a novice can do it, as long as you can pour the base and put the first row in while it’s wet).

  • K

    Good article. However, you have missed the most likely reason the trucks will stop. Economic. Fuel prices are already causing the price of everything to rise. A sudden spike in fuel prices, such as war with Iran, would cause fuel to increase as much as two dollars a gallon. Seven dollar a gallon diesel. The price to now deliver things, would exceed what most people could pay. No buyers, no reason for the trucks to run.

  • Ashley B.

    Shelves most certainly will be empty and FAST! Anyone that believes otherwise is a fool.
    I am a “couponer” (but not to the extreme of those people on tv) and run across quite a few empty shelves because of a good deal on cheap vitamins, cereal, dog food and so many other things.

    If a good deal can keep shelves empty for a week or more (it happens a lot to me, deliveries can’t keep up with demand) what will a disaster be like? Can’t even stand the thought.

    Great article, love the site!

    • Michael

      I hope you will comment more often Ashley and I am glad you are enjoying the articles. :)

      Michael

  • MisterD

    Very good article! There is one thing that I haven’t been able to sort out concerning the access of clean water. We have stored water as well, but does anyone know what would be some of the best ways for the purification of water when everything begins to fall apart? I don’t think having stored water alone will be long enough to last.

  • http://www.youtube.com/thepreparedpastor Prepared Pastor

    One of the hardest things to teach my wilderness survival students is how to ‘see’ firewood in a forest. This article is correct that it takes several months to cure firewood, but deadfall wood is all over the place even in the wooded areas in city parks. Certainly, it is better to have several cords of wood ready to go, but those who learn to see differently there are alternatives – at least at the beginning of a crises.

    We live beneath the water tank so can immediately fill our 100 gallon $25 waterbob when the times comes and our hot water heater is quite large. We also leave between a river and a lake and have rain barrels and a 550 gallon water tank with three ways to treat/purify water.

  • jeff

    Living in a northern climate means that heating your home in the dead of winter is one of the biggest challenges. If you have a generator (like I do) that is great…until the fuel runs out. Does anyone know of a heater that uses kerosene or propane that can be used indoors?

    • Jeff

      assuming you do not have a wood stove of course…

    • Highspeedloafer

      Go to a local propane dealer, they have deals this time of year on propane wall mounted heaters. I have one in my rec room and it works very well without electricity.

      You can buy a kerosene heater at lowes home improvement for about $100.00.

    • Bob

      I have developed an easily constructed wood stove and published the instructions here:
      http://www.instructables.com/id/Convert-a-Hot-Water-Heater-Into-a-Wood-Stove/
      I use this to heat my house.

  • Chris

    Interesting read.

    I am all for having a few weeks supplies, maybe a month. I think the Doomsday preppers are another story.

    I know that things can happen. But, while the world groans and talk of “the end of the world is near,” we, who are true believers in Jesus as our savior, know that when it gets really bad, and it will, we will be taken up to heaven as we are not meant to go through the coming tribulation.

    Now, of course that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t stock up a little in case of a tornado, hurricane, etc. But, stocking up for a year or more, to me, just shows that either they don’t know Jesus as their savior, or they think the tribulation period to come is for them to suffer through as well.

    Without getting into much more of that, I say all this to say, yes, we should all prepare for a little, but doesn’t the Bible tell us that His children will never beg for food. God will provide.

    For those that don’t believe, then I ask that you pray and consider. You have no blessed assurance and you will go through terrible things to come. You can prep all you want, but someone will always be stronger or have more. You may think all the prepping will save you, but then a militia or army comes along and takes it.

    I trust that Jesus will supply my needs for me and my family – long term. I don’t think there is anything wrong prepping for short term scenarios… bad things happen to everyone, good or bad.

    Just my 2 cents! Thanks for the great read!

    • Sunday

      There is no rapture before the tribulation. Dont listen to this “self preservation” rhetoric. It’s prepping you for all the wrong reasons. What will you do when the Beast demands you get his mark to replenish your food items. If you arent willing to starve now, why would you be willing to starve when the Beast comes?

      • http://lastdayrapture.blogspot.com/ TK

        Good point Sunday!

  • YHVH

    Very true article. But there’s only one problem. If people know that you have survival items then you will become a target!

  • Cleo

    In regards to the ATA article, one thing that is not mentioned are all of the unintended consequences of all of the DOT and FMCSA (fed motor carrier safety administration. Not only have CDL holders lost many personal freedoms, regulations are driving (pardon the pun) seasoned drivers out of the industry by finding other means of employment or by retiring early if they are set up financially. Consequently, even in a down economy we are experiencing a severe shortage of “experienced” drivers. The void is being filled by foreigners (Mexican, Bosnians, Serbs, Russians, etc. You should try communicating with them…not an easy thing to do.

    Here’s just a couple of regs. In 2010, a program called CASA was started and still being added to. It’s supposed to weed “bad” drivers out of the system. You get points against your record for any required light that is out. Trucks have always been designed redundantly with lots of lights so if a turn signal goes out, there is always another one blinking. Doesn’t matter that it just went out and you haven’t had time to fix it.

    Now with a CDL, the blood alcohol limit has been reduced to .04%. So, if I’ve had a beer or two and get pulled over in my car, if I have a .04% blood alcohol, I can have my CDL suspended even though the limit is .08 for drivers in their cars. Well, I don’t plan on or advocate driving after a beer or two, but cut us some slack. Go figure, huh? Same way with speeding (my last speeding ticket was in 10/85 61 in a 55). I can have my CDL suspended even if the offense is in my car.

    So, older, experienced, safe drivers are leaving the industry and being replaced by inexperienced and sometimes foreign drivers. Our bureaucrats at work! They know best how to drive a truck, even though the majority of them have never driven.

  • mark

    In a talk by Ezra Taft Benson October 1980 he said ” Have you ever paused to realize what would happen to your community or nation if transportation were paralyzed or if we had a war or depression? How would you and your neighbors obtain food? How long would the corner grocery store or supermarket sustain the needs of the community?” It is nice to see many of you wake up to what many members of the LDS Church have known for a long time. We have been living much of what is said on some of these blogs for many years. We have been grinding our own wheat from storage for over 25 years. We have been raising a garden for many years. We bought a ranch in the spring of 2001 and raise our own beef. I understand that many of you would not want to live in the quiet of the country and the hard work that comes with taking care of a large ranch, but at least many of you can prepare along with your neighbors for what could be coming. It can’t hurt to be prepared. Start today by thinking about a plan and get together with your families and neighbors to work on one.

  • Already Preppin

    I have heard some people say that when food is scarce they will just go hunt and fish for food. They truely seem to think that each one of them is the only one with that idea. I have helped people accept the need for prepping but I encourage them to start slowly. I read somewhere that any major city has only 3 days of food in it. I started with the “If you have 2 months of food and water you could hunker down and wait for the worst of it to go by”. Almost all of the people. as they gathered up the 2 months supply started reading and researching more. As a result almost all of them are striving to get a years worth of food, personal protection devices, seeds, and books on how to grow vegetables,slaughter animals, and food preservation. The baby step for getting 2 months supply seemed to be a good transition time to full on preppin’

  • Larry

    Water is one heavy mother trucker. 1 gallon is 8 pounds. A five gallon bucket filled with water is 40+ pounds. Its difficult to carry for any distance.

    Imagine the whole neighborhood down at the local creek trying to fill their jars, waterbottles, or buckets. It will look like a story out of national geographic. I’m sure order and civility will be held up to the highest standard.

  • Erin

    Hi Michael, :)

    I’m a newbie to all this. I suppose you could say that I’m “just starting to wake up and prepare.” I must say that all the info I’ve been reading on your site is very disturbing but I don’t want to be one of those people that simply sticks their head in the sand anymore.

    If things don’t go bad, then I can simply sit back, take a big sigh of relief and have a good laugh at myself. However, if things do end up going south, I’d like to be able to prep as wisely as I can (even at this late date).

    If it’s at all possible, do you think you could email me some tips about what you’ve been doing with your money? I have a comfortable amount in savings and I really don’t know who to trust about what I should do with it in order to protect it. I’ve already taken steps as far as food, water and other things around my house. I’m out of debt and own the house free and clear.

    Any good, solid advice you could give me would be greatly appreciated. Should I buy gold, silver? Move some of my dollars into another currency? I just have no clue and have never played “the Market”.

    Btw, thanks for all your articles. As scary as some of them seem, it’s better to be aware and prepare for rainy days than to think the “party” will last forever.

    • Michael

      Erin:

      In the short-term the number one thing I recommend is that people have enough money stored up to be able to pay at least six months (preferably one year) of your household expenses.

      During the last economic downturn, millions of people lost their jobs and then they lost their homes because they had no cushion.

      Don’t let that happen to you.

      Michael

    • Optimistic Pessimist

      BIG THUMBS UP to this advice. Glad you have come across this site and started down the road.

      I’ve been working for myself the last year and had a bit of trouble after the fourth month when the realisation hit me: What happens if I run out of money and cannot buy food in a couple of months. After that enlightening and disturbing thought I have a well stocked kitchen now.

      It gives peace of mind to know that if I have a bad month working I only have to pay the rent and can feed myself for free until I can replenish.

      This is the right sort of mindset that you should be looking at. If you prepare for the future, when it comes you should be able to deal with it in an easier way.

      • Zedge Hero

        Prep for diaster, prep for unemployment, or my buddy says it best -prep for retirement and self suffiency!

        Get busy living or get busy dying! -Shawshank Redemption.

  • matt

    I have always assumed that this was a given. I mean really? The Economic Collapse. The name of the site kind of gives you the first clue. But seriously Michael i would like to thank you for your tireless posting. I know it is, at it’s base an advertising platform. You also have to pay the bills. How else could you possibly have the time to bring us this information. I ‘woke up’ late in 2010. tried for a time to convince others of coming danger,geeze talk about a thankless task. Gave that up and started getting ready. I figured I had been given a chance to prepare to help others who are at present to blind to see. the normalcy bias is going to wack the living crap out of most folks. They just cannot envision an America where the rule of law is gone, the healthcare system is gone, the very fabric of their nice soft lives will be torn asunder. Your site is a beacon. the truth is right there for all to see, if they would but open their eyes and WAKE UP! There has been no misdirection, no agenda. Just the truth. Take from it what you will, ignore and dismiss at you own peril. Thanks again. Matthew

  • M. Hapney

    A very small percentage of the population is preparing in any way for the coming collapse. What amazes me is the effort by the banker media to try and marginalize and ridicule people who are smart enough to prepare.

    Shows like Doomsday Preppers are nothing more than hit pieces, no doubt about that. Showing mentally unstable, irrational people as ‘preppers.’

    It just goes to show how greedy the banksters really are, and how badly they want every individual entirely dependent on them and their puppet gov/control/rules.

    So greedy that they don’t want even the 2% that prep to slip out of their grasp when they decide to pull the plug.

    Been learning things in that regard since 2004 and my best guess is 2013 will be the year they do a couple false flags and push us over the cliff.

    As Jim Rogers said, 2012 is when people EXPECT a collapse, it is a puppet/political year; they will keep the ponzi going until 2013. Just when people start to believe that truly all things are well and fine.

  • http://www,Back2theLand.com Old Timer

    The trucking industry has changed over the past 3 years or more. Wherein it used to be a corporate – usualy family bsiness – who owned dozens of big rigs; they have sold out. Today most of the truckers are indcependent, buying their own trucks with short term hauling back and forth,.

    For an example in cattle pick up here in Virginia they are hauled across the country -long expensive runs that require time consideratyions for perishable cargo.They then search for another load to haul elsewhere.

    This implies that the trucker, usually a husband and wife team, appear to make a lot of money but it all goes out quickly in health, wear and tear on the truck with tires, licenses, road fees and of copurse fuel costs now over $4.00 a gallon.

    Local short hauls just fold up. Small back hoe and such businesses just die since you can not pass on the costs of fuel and increased maintainence to a once in a while customer. You are still paying for that rig or equipment, and you have to keep it going and going and going. Credit costs imply interest costs.

    The trucking industry is one of our most valuable and risky businesses today.

    A Truckers strike would be liklely but with independent truckers in the majority they could strike for Government fuel coupons – subsidies. This of course would move D>C> along when Wally shuts down.

    Railroads move more than you think, but with urban sprawl you still have to have trucks that deliver.

    Prepping is several years of learning, planning and bit by bit accumulation of what you think you will need at your location. Try dealing with out paper products for a month. Water, well I have wrote several articles on this subject.

    OT- back in the garden.

  • rancher

    If Christians foolishly think the rapture is going to save their butts they are sadly mistaken. Just like the thousands or world wide disasters, wars and plagues which have destroyed humans from before recorded time.

    Mankind has been around a lot longer than 6k years or so and has been wasted more times than we care to admit. Since Jesus Christians have been tricking themselves into believing the next disaster will be the tribulation and they will exit early and go to the streets of gold. They died and did not get raptures…even once.

    I do not deny the rapture but I will also say only fools believe God will protect them in a disaster. Especially thinking God will trigger the rapture just to save them from undo suffering, starvation, rape and death. He gave you a brain…so use it and make Him proud of you. Learn from History and stop denying it….,

    • http://lastdayrapture.blogspot.com/ TK

      Amen Rancher, the idea of a rapture to keep us from suffering is a myth for sure. Click on my name to learn more about “The Last Day Rapture”

  • Zak

    M. Hapney, my guess is that the percentage of bankers that are Preppers might be higher than the general population. They just can talk about it in public because that would put them out of business.

    I feel that that a case study of Greece and Europe in general can provide a wealth of knowledge to the Prepper community. Michael, are there articles or forums discussing this topic?

    Thanks,

    Zak

  • Schwarzer Peter

    My adult son was making fun of my stash containing freeze dried food. He wanted to know if he is allowed to feed it to me in 20 years from now, after I become old and feeble. Yes, if it were to take that long to get used, by all means. The food will last for 25 years, but I have a feeling that our whole family will be using it long before the expiring date.

    • http://mozilla mr

      yes son and daughters ….make fun but when the time comes no matter what!! the disaster!!..readiness will not be on your shelves

  • http://worldendsat4newsat11.blogspot.com Tony Lamb

    I have been an over the road trucker for about 12 years I quit back in 2000 and back then I saw owner/operators doing their laundry in truck stop restrooms using their free hand soap to soap up their laundry and wash their clothes in the sink and using a hand dryer to dry their clothes. IF it was that bad in 1998 to 2000 how bad do you think it is for owner operators today with $4.00 a gallon diesel fuel. Owner operators have all but dissapeared from America. Is this for better or worse? When SHTF we will all be drinking from lakes and streams and eating rat meat and loving it….

  • Paranoid

    Having been one for over 50 years; I can state with assuramce preppers are nuts. The question is however, are we right?

    • J Gibbs, PhD

      Noah was a prepper for 150 years, and he was laughed at, scorned, mocked, etc. However, we all know the end of that story. ;)

      • Kim

        I like the Noah analogy!!! Reading The Harbinger rt. now..it all goes back to scripture, I feel soory for those who donot believe:(

  • Gay Veteran

    Prepping is like buying insurance, you hope you don’t need it but is valuable if you do need it.

    You need to get barter items: booze, tobacco, sugar, coffee

    So prepare now! But when a crisis hits don’t forget to go to the stores and buy as much as you can, everyone else will be.

    • rickisadick

      Me thinks I will prep now and stay home away from the stores when the ********* hits the fan.

  • J.J.C.

    I live in the Southwest.
    Without water, we will die first.

  • ky survivor

    remember opsec when prepping. when others know you have it they will try to take it shtf. dont forget archery as a option for hunting and defense.

    • Paranoid

      Or just pretend tp prep and make them into jerkey when they try to rob you.

      • wisefool

        I wouldn’t even joke about cannibalism, yuck. Eating the neighbors dog however, is no joke, and going on right now.

        • ann

          Tell me you aren’t eating the neighbors dog

    • GSOB

      As a back up plan to a shot gun, 22, blades and C-4.

  • davidmpark

    This is why home production and storage is essential.

    A family is capable of creating most of their needed commodities at their home. Grow food, build items, reuse and rework what is considered waste.

    Research how to do things, and then experiment – try your strengths and weaknesses.

  • James

    People will have to learn how to do without even the things on the list. If the trucks never regain their ability to run regular routes, people will have to use what is at hand, or found on the land. For thousands of years, man has been able to survive without the modern conveniences we have today. Food can be found all over nature if you know where to look. You don’t need Coleman fuel (petroleum derivative)when you can start a fire on your own. Portable toilets? Give me a break. You can dig a hole in the ground and do your business and cover it up. Leaves make wonderful toilet paper. Sand can be used to filter water, and then boiled to kill the bacteria. Weapons should include knives, clubs, bow and arrows, and your mind. Guns use gunpowder which won’t be available after the shutdown. Wood will be plentiful and it doesn’t need to be bone dry, you keep the wet wood near a fire to dry the bulk of your wood for use in a fire. Keep the semi-wet wood near the fire so it gets dry enough to ignite. You’re not going to want to build a big fire, just a fire big enough to cook with and to keep warm. There are large amounts of dry tinder in the woods and fields if you know how to find it. Animal dung makes good fuel. India has been using dung for ages. Source of light could come from campfires and other various natural materials. You don’t want to have a big light source to draw unfriendly people to your camp. Most people during this time period will be angry and desperate and will do anything to deprive you of your belongings and resources. Can openers can be made out of a hunting knife, if there are any cans to be found. The government will probably be giving out commodities such as beans, rice, and other dry foods for a limited time. Just enough time for you to adjust to the new norm, and to learn how to subsist on things found in the environment. Buy the latest copy of the Army Survival Manual and learn it. Small mammals make good food, most people would not eat the things found in nature. They wouldn’t know how to catch it, or prepare it in such a way that it doesn’t pass on disease and parasites.

    • Ranger2012

      You are right up to a point, like 150 years ago when the NA pop. was only 40 million. Now at 350 million, it means that compitition for that dandylion in your front yard is going to be fierce.

      • occumommy

        with the apathy of today’s people and their reliance on modern conviniences many people will die quickly lowering the competition quickly. as horrible as that sounds. if you take up a nice position in the woods with a natural shelter. you have a better chance of living already, knowing how to find your own food and drinkable water will also make your chances of surviveing a lot higher. the earth can support us, we just have to learn how to use the resources correctly. and you can take stock that there are a lot of people who will die because they never took the time to learn.

  • davidmpark

    1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy…target of
    thieves; maintenance etc.)
    *** I’ve made thirteen windmill generators from scrap lumber, junkyard alternators, and other leftovers. Hydro-power is the second easiest to build.***

    2. Water Filters/Purifiers
    *** Filters can be made from sand, gravel, and charcoal. Purifiers from cholrine can be chemically made from salt water. Seriously.***

    3. Portable Toilets
    *** extra 5-gal bucket with shopping bags, or build a good outhouse.***

    4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 – 12 months to become dried, for home
    uses.
    *** 3-4 weeks if kept under black plastic. Can also burn corn cobs, useless papers from work. Even dog poop can be made into charcoal. Most animal manures can be anaerobically digested to extract methane, or extract methanol from wood.***

    5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile
    ANY!)
    Can be made, extracted from fats***

    6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.
    ***extract methane from animal manure, or even humanure.***

    7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.
    *** Make ‘em. Not hard to do.***

    8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
    *** Most folks already have these. Trade or make ‘em. Again, not hard to do.***

    9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
    *** honeybees, maple trees, and sugar canes, sugar beets, and sorghum plants are where these come from. Raise ‘em and process.***

    10. Rice – Beans – Wheat
    *** Save seed, grow wherever and when you can.***

    Not hard to prepare and do these things if your willing to do.

    • mjfalken

      I’m interested in your comment about hydropower and how it’s the second easiest to build.You have any info on how to build the hydropower or where I can find the info online? I would appreciate any feedback you have.
      Thanks.

      • Ranger2012

        If you have a stream/river, that has enough volume/speed, then you could make an hydroelectric generator. Go to You Tube, to see the simple to the complex systems.

      • davidmpark

        Just funnel any naturally moving stream of water through a channel into a pipe that’s connected the proper generator. Practical Action has the blueprints on how to build it.

        The hydropower that I’ve been toying lately with isn’t based on water movements from streams. I’ve been trying to get the water to cycle through low-energy distillation (kinda like how the ocean currents work with hot and cold extremes) to run the alternators. I’ve had some success; but nothing great yet.

    • rickisadick

      out of curiosity, how the heck do you extract methane from human poop? Never mind. I am just going to buy a bunch of coleman propane canisters and add to the ones I have. :)

      • davidmpark

        Anaerobic digestion done by bacteria in a oxygen-void space.

    • judiannisbadass

      @davidmpark will you please email me about the windmill generators? Id like to pick your brain! Lol

      judiann

      judiannisbadass28 @ gmail .com

    • http://Gardenforyourlife.blogspot.com Ken

      Get paraffin oil for lamps. Much less smoke than kerosene from Walmart or other sources. Use a short half pint ball canning jar. Use a chisel to make a thre quarter inch slit in the top and insert a wide wick with less than 1/8 inch extended out. Fill with paraffin oil and you have a long lasting lamp. Use a extra jar top to seal it when not in use. I bought some small glass lamp shades use in ceiling fan light as a shade to protect the flame.

      • http://Gardenforyourlife.blogspot.com Ken

        Ps. Local church supply stores are your cheaper sources for pure paraffin oil.

  • rickisadick

    It will be terrible, imagine having to eat fido.

    • kathy

      no, we’re not going to eat Fido. He is our guardian, and alarm system.

      • rickisadick

        Spoken like someone that has never REALLY been that hungry before. If it comes down to fido or the kids starving…………..

        • Lorri

          Fido is family – and if the kids are starving and you eat fido then who do you eat after fido is gone?

  • md

    Noah was the first prepper in recorded history

    • DownWithLibs

      ;-)!

  • Maxx

    I’ve been prepping for a couple years – a little at a time as I can afford. My wife has been appreciative but probably thinks I’m a little over the edge. With all that I see happening in the world, I must admit, some preparation helps me sleep at night; just in case.

    Friends and family not so keen on any sense of urgency. Hopefully, we’ll never find out if the prepping becomes a life-saver.

    • GSOB

      I feel ya

  • KHill

    There have been times that blizzards and hurricanes have made it impossible for trucks to deliver to a region for over a week or more and it was not good but not as bad as this article makes it out to be. All the things in the article are bound to happen if trucks stop running, but I think it would take longer than the breakdown here. I believe everyone should be prepared with at least the basics regardless of where they live or what they believe the future holds. I can make anything i need from found items, hunt, skin and tan, farm, purify water, and I’m in the medical field. I feel sorry for people who can’t live without cellophane wrapped cuts of meat and a microwave.What will happen to all the elderly who rely on meals on wheels and oxygen tanks? That bothers me.

    • TripodXL

      KHill; The flaw in your logic about “it was not as bad as this article makes it out” is that a regional issue has the resources outside the region to draw on to mitigate the circumstances of a disaster. If there is a systemic issue and there are no “other resources” to draw from, IT WILL be that bad. Go to your local grocery store and have the manager explain to you how goods are ordered and how often a truck comes “just in time” to deliver groceries. You’ll be surprised and more so when you ask him how they would handle “manual orders” in the event the computers don’t work and trucks don’t run. Then ask him how long the shelves would have stock on them if a truck didn’t come in for a week.

    • kat

      Canning jars.
      Canning lids {rotate your supply to keep seals fresh] this year buy 5 yrs worth, next year buy fresh. but use out of your stash so you always are keeping fresh supply. “Lids could become currency. Not all foods dry well. And weather may not cooperate for large drying. Could dry down as much as possible then can.
      Pressure canner and extra gasket.

      Know where your local hypnotist is for emergency anesthesia for surgeries.

      Don’t eat all the cattle,oxen maybe needed to plow.

      Silver dollars for antimicrobial use in water containers

      • http://Gardenforyourlife.blogspot.com Ken

        Buy tattler reusable lids.

    • http://Gardenforyourlife.blogspot.com Ken

      I’m in the medical field too. I used to work in an er. There were many times that we would run out of supplies like Iv caths and 4×4’s over the weekend if we were really busy. And this was in a large city! I was in new Orleans on an ambulance the day after katrina hit. I became a real prepper that day. I spent a full week there before there was enough resources to relieve us. Most of the ambulances were private too. Fuel to take folks from NL to baton rouge was in short supply and night runs was out of the question due to safety. If your life saving plan includes the government coming to your rescue, your plan has a fatal flaw

  • Jeremy

    No, preppers are not crazy, but don’t assume that all Americans should do the same thing. The scenario you described could have happened at any time in the past, present or future.

    There is a country to fight for, and if everyone just goes underground, then there will be no one left to fight.

    Times are unprecedentally tough (for those of us who are young), and the situation has not gotten better, but this does not mean we should read this site everyday and fret from all the possible things that could go wrong.

  • JackieG

    About $10 worth of calcium chlorite (pool shock) will purify 20 thousand gallons of water.
    A one litre bottle of 50% food grade hydrogen peroxide will purify 1000 gallons of water.
    or 12 drops to a gallon.

    • Steve

      50% h2o2 can be very dangerous. Use extreme caution when handling this product.

      3% is normal dilution for all around use.

  • James

    It is very, very unlikely that a catostrophic event on a scale suffecient enough to completley demobilze the entire transportation infrustructure of the nation will ever occur. Where such an event to occur, it would most certainly not be permenant, why would it be? Would anyone honestly be content to merely survive in the animalistic sense of the word, when we have the knowledge and capability to do otherwise. If something like that was to happen, everyone would doubtlessly do everything possiable to reverse it, anyone who would’nt, would only be contributing to their own misery. Furthermore, believe it or not, the government would do everything possible to restore order, not for the benefit of the citizenzary, but for without oderly stability, they would become powerless, and power after all is what they value above everything.

    • GSOB

      Agree

    • jimmy

      That is an incredibly naive view.

    • Steve

      what about a ‘pole shift’?

      I’m glad you are not my neighbor.

      Go stick your head back in the sand or go watch some more tv.

  • http://infowars.com cletus van damme

    Ive been prepping for a while now as well, even though I do not have a steady, full time job. But, Ive always been like that, I remember making bug out bags when I was 10 in the 1990s. This article shows how fragile our whole transportation system is. One shock from oil prices or disruption in them for a few days can cause total turmoil. Its really foolish that we have based our whole society on a finite resource. I guess when something happens, the fema camps will be open for those non preppers.

  • http://americankleptocracy.com MatS

    I’d like to suggest a few things, and I’m sure I’ll think of many more after I hit “send”

    Baby diaper rash lotion, cheap at 99 cent stores

    Hand lotions, ditto

    A yachtsmen’s emergency dental kit that will allow you to replace fillings, etc.

    A CB or Ham radio (go ahead and get an FCC license…it’s easy. I did it at 71). Cell systems may be down, or you can’t afford it, but CB radios run on 12 volts, as do many ham walky-talkies. By becoming a ham now you can befriend some local hams, and learn how to stay on the air if there’s an emergency. They practice emergency communications once a year in the summer, called “Field Day”. (I might add that my brother who is 60 and works for a three-letter agency recently got a ham license out of the blue…he’d never expressed interest at all, yet he said he was doing it for emergency reasons. huh?)

    Some sort of filter that’ll allow you to drink pool water (a lot of pools out here).

    If you get a generator, try to get one that will use propane; the fuel doesn’t deteriorate and you can get a local company to install a tank for free if you tell them it’s for cooking. Of course you’ll have to pay to fill it.

    Get spare electric computers for your cars in case there’s an EMP strike. I’m told diesels are immune.

    Get a hand air pump for bicycles; get a tire patch kit for your car. And pickup a cheap bike and learn how it works.

    Stock up on WD-40, lithium grease, and duct tape. Get plenty of those strong tie wraps.

    You might want to buy bug sprays, but use them sparingly.

    Get a tow rope or chain for pulling a car.

    Get clothesline and clothes pins.

    • Cathi

      I totally agree. Especially the ham radio…it seems many hams are in gov,t work and seem to have a lot of knowledge about what the Feds are prepping for-maybe they(the Feds) know something we don’t. It’s funny that you mentioned Field day,since it was just this past weekend! And the higher you go,(there are 3levels) the more useful you can be in the event of a nationwide breakdown…

  • Thomas James

    Michael, I read that same article yesterday too then thought it was ironic how a truck depot was hit by the tornado yesterday and all the pictures of wrecked trucks!!

    • Michael

      That is a good point – I had not thought of that connection.

      Michael

  • Thomas James

    When Hurricane Irene hit last August you could not find a single flashlight or even batteries anywhere ! Now imagine if there was a REAL disaster or crisis that strecthed on for weeks or months !! I really think a lot of people will be killing themselves if they can’t obtain food, water, normal supplies.

    • Steve

      It has been suggested that when the ‘pole shift event’ takes place, that 90% will die, mostly due to the lack of will to live……………

  • http://www.magnifiedview.com Yoda

    Kudos Economic Collapse: Outstanding expose!

    Our great leader President Obama has facilitated the Muslim Brotherhood control of Libya and Egypt. The MB is on-a-roll thrughout North Africa, the Middle East and elsewhere in the world.

    Our great leader will have us starving and freezing in the dark waiting for our windmills to turn around.

    The Arab Spring has sprung and a Burka’s R US store is coming to a Sharia mall near you
    http://www.magnifiedview.com/2011/10/18/occupying-wall-street-style-uprisings-and-the-arab-spring-revolution

    Right on Economic Collapse – WRITE ON!

    Cordially, Yoda@magnifiedview.com

    P.S.: “May you live in interesting times.” Ancient Chinese curse.

    • Gay Veteran

      Yoda, you need to change your urine soaked pants.

      Sharia Law? we’re more likely to get “Christian” Sharia Law

      • wisefool

        And what would possess you to think that? The degenerates are clearly in more control than Christians. The closest thing to Christian Sharia would be observing the recent past. You are a moron.

        • Gay Veteran

          wisefool? got the last part right

          what about all the anti-abortion/anti-birth control laws being passed?

          • http://Logicalprepper.com The Logical Prepper

            Vet,

            Tell me please, who has authored and an anti-birth control law been passed? I would like to know. If you are referring to the Catholic Church rebelling against being forced to pay for birth control under their insurance plan, look at it like this; That would be like government telling you that you must, by law, use a woman for your sexual satisfaction. I am sure you would rebel in kind. As far as anti-abortion laws are concerned… better than pro-abortion laws. We need more natural born citizens.

          • http://Logicalprepper.com The Logical Prepper

            Meant to write, “Who has authored and passed anti-birth control laws?”

          • rickisadick

            you are gay, how do those laws affect you anyhow?

      • ScoutMotto

        “we’re more likely to get “Christian” Sharia Law”

        There is no such thing.

  • Marie

    Don’t forget toliet paper! Oh, and a shovel.

    • http://Logicalprepper.com The Logical Prepper

      Funny Marie!

    • Charles

      Lots of antacids! Stress levels will be through the roof.

  • Frank C

    Excellent article Michael…
    Although I don’t ever comment, I just want to say please keep up the good work and stay with the cause…
    Best Regards,
    Frank C.

    • Michael

      Frank:

      Thank you for the kinds words and I hope that you will comment more often. :)

      Michael

  • http://doomsdayprepperforums.com Krime

    i am a prepper, alot will tell you your full of it, and look down on you like your not right in the head!
    if i prep and nothing happens that will be great, but id rather prep and nothing happen, than not prep and something does, if your interested join our prepper forum, doomsdayprepperforums.com
    god bless!

  • A Prepper

    A single disaster, attack, skyrocketing fuel prices or other unforseen problem would not cause a nationwide panic, or breakdown of society. However, if one problem occurs it will not occur alone! One problem will lead to another, and so on. Skyrocketing fuel prices for example: Trucking companies will not be able to afford to run their trucks, the ones that do will have to charge outrageous prices for delivery, prices at stores, gas stations, ect will go through the roof, people will not be able to afford the higher prices, they wont be able to afford to go to work, riots will break out with untold of looting for the basics of which there wont be much! Martial law will be declared, the government will attempt to seize products and goods to stop people from hoarding them with the excuse that they are going to share them amongst all citizens. Gun fights will breakout with armed government troops and regular citizens! You see where this is going? Any one problem will lead to many more problems, and it’s just a matter of time.

  • Steve

    To stop trucking commerce just a simple blackout of our beloved Internet. Brought to you by our Government Martial-Law and the Kill-Switch, or something else, even a really bad Malware attack. On a bigger scale, yes if the Electric-Grid stops working. Maybe a Pan-Demic via Disease Epidemic where truckers just refuse to go to where people are dropping like flies. Maybe another Middle-East war where Diesel is $20 a gallon and everyone is stealing to get some. Or something simple where Truckers go out of business because a slow Economic decline that people do not have money to buy goods.

  • http://ginafrost6@gmail.com Gina Frost

    The only way to prepare for the future is by asking Christ in your heart ,to be your Savior. For what shall it profit a man if he should gain the whole world and loose his own soul. John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son that whosoever believeth in me should not perish but have everlasting life.

    • http://Logicalprepper.com The Logical Prepper

      Nice thought Gina, and that is the ultimate prep. I think the subject here has to do with survival in the mean time. Think about it. Should the world fall apart, wouldn’t you rather survive to spread the Word more and for a longer period of time? Or would you rather just give up the ghost and quit?

    • Insight

      God only helps those who help themselves…

  • Proftel
  • http://goto.glocalnet.net/pdn/ Urtica dioica

    Many christians today is by internet enlightened of our situation here on Earth. Yet an awful lot of us refuse to prepare of the simple reason called… PRIDE! If any christian was preparing, he would be called unfaithful to God. If Pre-trib rapture is false, expect christians like Rawfoodmommy on Youtube to break into your home!

  • SandiK

    Go preppers, few of us in Australia – they are too busy watching sport on TV!

    • Col B.

      Hi. I live in Australia. I’m preparing to be a prepper. Do you know of any prepper communities that has sprung up here?. I need to find one.

  • Michelle

    I know many Christian people that would like to prepare but they seem to focus on guns for their safety. My husband and I would like to learn how to effectively prepare so that we can protect our family members. We believe in Pretribulation or midtribulation but despite the religious belief, it is nonsense not to prepare.

    • http://Gardenforyourlife.blogspot.com Ken

      Pre, mid, post tribulation is a lot like the different theories of evolution is that they prove the others don’t work! It will happen when it happens. Til then your stuck here with whatever happens. Are you ready for whatever or not?

      • GSOB

        yeah right….evolution
        from goo to you by way of the zoo.

        Michelle,

        Your family should consider a bug in and bug out plan.
        The buggin in plan takes into consideration how long you will want to stay on your residence before the gangs and thugs become the local government in your neighborhood. Pick a point of no return and plan all your supplies needs for the buggin part to last you to that point of no return.
        For instance… 1 gal water per day per person and 2000 cals per person of food.

        The bugout plan is into two parts:

        Bugout from the bugging in is to leave with the idea of not coming back to your bugin place. Now you are looking for, (preepers already planned for this) a place to hide out, away from the violence and
        murders. People are desperate. You’ll need to protect your loved ones from danger. Prepare to live in the wilderness, being able to carry your house on your back.

        The other part is to leave the country.

        All three parts can be planned and you start with your residence, which means you can start now. Overall planning takes into consideration the needs to meet the defined goals of each stage.
        That way you will not spend money on great ideas that are not specific to your planning needs.

        Keep assessing the state of nation and adjust accordingly your plan, try to make the implementation of the three part plan to be commesurative to the faltering slide of the economy. Stay ahead of everyone else.

        Your family should plan to drop off the face of the map… meaning
        the enemy can not find you.

        Water
        Food
        Shelter
        Protection

        Grace and Faith.

  • http://theheirloom.blogspot.com/ Cherenkov

    The thing is most people do not realize that the countryside does not have the wildlife and wild flora to feed all 300,000,000 of us. Plus, you must take into account that the coasts, all three of them, are packed with people far too numerous to be fed from local resources. The Southwest will be worse off with its inherent lack of water or food sources.

    Fuel will also be a real problem. The idea that we will all simply go into the “forest” and chop down a few trees and make it through winter is pretty much insane. How will you transport all that very heavy wood to the population centers? Well, you won’t without cheap fossil fuel. So, those people in cold climes, which is far more of the US that you think, will find themselves freezing or suffering from exposure.

    Ultimately, that means refugees. Millions of refugees. All wandering around seeking someplace that is not suffering the same privation that they are fleeing. The problem is that those very few places which are not in the dumper will likely not take kindly to strangers marching in and taking their stuff. But, let’s say they do manage to overcome a well-armed region and swarm over the resources. Then those resources are picked over.

    If the U.S. military gets involved, as all of their planning and material prepositioning and ongoing restriction of rights indicates they are already involved, then what are their choices? If we game it out, what happens? 1. Stand by and let the people savage each other, then step in and clean up the aftermath. (A pretty good scenario strategically.) 2. They intervene immediately and force people into camps and relocation in order to prepare the population for land reform. The problem is they will be unable to train people to farm sustainably, let alone equip them, and the food will still run out causing starvation and food riots followed by extreme repression. 3. The military pulls back to preplanned positions designed to protect key facilities and populations. This would mean government personnel, productive farm regions adjacent to these reservations, power plants connected directly to the govt. reservations, military facilities, essential transportation corridors, and government warehouses pre-stocked with survival foods and equipment for post population crash recovery. Of course, they would wipe out anyone who attempted to overwhelm these protected reservations. Once the surplus population died out, they would expand back into the countryside in a gradual manner using more sustainable methods of living.

    Individual survivalists will only make do if they are lucky. A survivalist in New York City will have a minuscule chance of survival over a well-trained, equipped, and provisioned person who is in a remote area with good water and soil.

    But, the luck of the draw is a fickle thing. Like Sarge said in basic training, “Look to your right and to your left. Someone is not coming back. The enemy does not care which one of you it is.”

  • hidflect

    After the earthquake in Tokyo transport stopped so I slept till 4am in my office and then walked 10km home. As I passed each successive convenience store I noticed them emptier and emptier until the one near my house finding it stripped bare. I suddenly realised if they weren’t replenished I would have no food and could easily starve before walking far enough to find any food not already taken by my 22 million neighbours. Chilling.

  • Go veg

    I think the people who think preppers are crazy are morons so there. lol no really preppers are not crazy they are just smarter than non preppers. Sometimes intelligence is mistaken for crazy… Maybe because most people are too dumb to wrap their heads around anything logical, so to them it doesn’t make sense.

  • CitznKate

    To prepare for contingencies enables knowledge and confidence to replace abject fear of the unknown, and this is just common sense. To remain unprepared and to plan to be dependent on the government for assistance, or to plan to use violence to meet one’s needs in an emergency –now, THAT is crazy.

  • Steve

    Job destruction is permanent and escalating. U.S. employers and employers around the world are automating all jobs to do away with salaries, wages, commissions and bonuses along with all human workers so that they can make more and more money. They are too savage to care that if there are no longer any human workers no one will have the money to buy their goods and services. The private sector and governments are merging so the government will do next to nothing to help the displaced workers of the world. The middle class is being destroyed and the world will consist of 5% of the population who are rich and 95% of the population who are dirt poor. This change will create a tinderbox that will explode into a conflagration that the world hasn’t seen since the Peasant Rebellions of Europe and China in the 15th and 16th Centuries. The anti-Vietnam War protests were defused by the end of the military draft (1973) and the end of the war (1975). There is nothing to stop job destruction and wage stagnation. Worldwide protests will continue and increase in intensity until capitalism joins communism in the scrap heap of history.

  • scott

    I look at prepping this way. The people that prep do not mind if you (non-preppers) laugh at us, as long as you dont mind us laughing at you when we are feeding ourselves while you are going without because you failed to stock up.

    • rickisadick

      yeahhhhhhhhhhhh, buoyyyyyyy!!

  • DCA

    Save 2-liter PET soda bottles and store tap water in them – this is a good idea for people who live in apartments. If you live in a place where sunlight is plentiful you can also disinfect water in 2-liter bottles – this method has been used in developing countries and takes time but is cheaper than water filters or boiling(if fuel, matches, etc. are scarce). You might also want to stock upon coffee filters – they can be used in conjunction with chemical disinfection which does not kill Giardia or Cryptospora cysts.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_water_disinfection

  • Skip

    Yucca are nasty plants but can be eaten for food, when none is available! Same thing with prickley pear cattuce. Plant them all over your yards for emegecny rations. Start an herb garden, chives and rosemarry will be good on those squirels you knock out of those trees.

  • Nobody

    I can’t wait !!

  • Sky King

    First of all, people do not realize that when the earth is going to shift on it’s axis, as a similar planetary alignment did 26,000 yrs. ago, there is no amount of prepping anyone can do about it’s massive destruction…
    Earth will erupt and explode all over the place and the only way to survive will be in a high altitude solar blimp or possibly in ocean going spheres that can withstand the force of a boiling Niagra Falls.
    Aliens will be fetching a few of us, but there is no hope…

    • GSOB

      Pick me up at 12

    • Steve

      Happens every 3,657 years or so…………BTW……..people do survive, about 10% or so.

  • http://www.EcoReality.org Jan Steinman

    There’s going to be a lot of skeletons lying next to a pile of wrappers of survival food pulled out their “bug out” bag.

    People seem to think “prepping” means hoarding. But having a stash of food or ammo or water or whatever is not sustainable. It just means you get to live a few months longer than others.

    The survivors will be those who have turned “prepping” into a life-style. These people don’t stash food; they grow it. They don’t hoard ammo and guns; they are part of tight, mutually-dependent communities that will stand together in the face of civil strife. They don’t work a “nine-to-five” job while waiting for the end; they are used to the “five-to-nine” job that humanity has always had until they discovered fossil sunlight.

    So many so-called “preppers” are going to last just a bit longer than the totally unprepared, because we are in a “boiling frog” situation. Don’t prepare for an “event;” it’s going to be a process.

    Humanity will go out with a whimper, not a bang. According to the Club of Rome report of 1972, Limits to Growth, (recently validated in Smithsonian Magazine) things are going to just get steadily worse over the next 18 years or so before there’s any sort of big “die off” event, but half the population will be living in misery for the next 18 years, until they die of extended effects of malnutrition and poor health care.

    So if you’ve got your generator and bags of rice and beans, you’re no “prepper,” you’re just delusional. “Real preppers” are growing food and forming Transition Town groups of mutual support. The days of the rugged individualist are coming to an end. The only way to get through this with any grace will be working with others. We could use some help!

    • Steve

      Jan, well said.

      Store seeds or better yet…………..get them in the ground now and start the learning experience when you can make mistakes with little consequence.

      As things get closer, your friends and neighbors will wake up and see that you are on the right track.

      Keep giving them hints as you continue with your plan.

      Remember……..it’s not hoarding if you share with everyone.

      Learn what weeds and plants are edible where you live.

      Store spices to barter with that help the weeds taste better.

      You can never have too much toilet paper.

  • Cheryl

    Reading this thread, it has struck me that “doomsday preppers” would rather have a large percentage of the population die off, rather than relinquish their unsustainable lifestyle. And by unsustainable, I mean treating women like breeding cows, with the prize going to whatever group of men who can contrive a situation whereby women are encouraged to perceive security in large numbers of offspring.

    Look at this chart and tell me women aren’t breeding cows: http://predatorhaven.blogspot.com/2010/12/2010-census-disturbing-ads.html

    Until 1850 there were less than 20 million americans; now a hundred and fifty years later there are 300 million of us and that number is climbing straight up. You NEED people to die off so you can continue encouraging the same old chattel husbandry which men have practiced for eons.

    How about stop having so many freaking kids? TWO is replacement, Mrs. Dugger… There would have been PLENTY of everything to go around that way!

    • GSOB

      Who needs people to die off?

    • http://andrewcroke1@shaw.ca Andrew

      I’m a true prepper, I got guns and ammo and I’ll find other preppers and take what they got for me and my family. Sorry, only the strong will last.
      Please send me your address :-)
      Or, would it be the right thing to learn who are and join other preppers. Strength in numbers..

    • JSebastian

      Cheryl,

      I know your post is seven months old but the vast increase in population since 1970, adding 100M new persons, an increase of 50% in only 40 years, was due only to immigration (both legal and illegal) and its progeny. If it were not for the disastrous Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 then America would have had a stable population and might still be the greatest country on the planet. However I do see your point about the overpopulation crisis in general although it is far less pronounced here than in many other first world nations. A global population level of 1B (approximately the same population as in 1830) would be “sustainable”. And citizens should press their governments to stop subsidizing over-procreation in favor of truly sustainable populations. The reason that the US federal government does not do this is because it is running Ponzi schemes (SS and MediCare) that require new victims constantly and because they operate under the chattel slavery math of a human being worth 4% per year, (calculated by Thomas Jefferson). Now of course they have vastly increased the yield of the average subject/slave, even though they are not taking 100% of the labors, it is on higher value production and for a longer period of time.

    • Glenda

      wow…our unsustainable lifestyle…I suppose you are a member of PETA and pro-abortion…we are aware of the situation to come…we are getting prepared…a breeding cow…what kind of idiot would ever compare a woman to a breeding cow…do you actually think about and research your information before you open your mouth…your post has proven your ignorance…if you knew anything about people like us, then you would also know that we are not only preparing for ourselves but the masses of idiots like yourself, that will need help…please note that our unsustainable lifestyle is what puts the food onto your table that so many think they can always just run down to the grocery store and get…seems you need a huge reality check

  • Dr. Dave

    My children laughed when I prepped for Y2K. But when Katrina passed over our house here in south Ms. we had 10 to 14 days of power grid down~! as well as roads blocked with trees & elect. poles, blocking roads the laughing turned to grateful tears! With the generator, 300 gallons of Stabil gas, cases of H20, plenty food, and lanterns we did just fine. Most had a very tough time indeed. New Orleans overshadowed panic & mahem. One man was followed home, shot & killed for his generator. We would hear gunfire at night, mostly warning shots. Fights & gunfire at gas stations as they ran out in less than 2 days! The hospital ran out of diesel & had no running water of course. In the end all agreed it was good for us all to see how fast society deteriorates, & mass panic sets in! We finally had National Guard on every corner but that took a week!! FEMA just couldn’t grasp how bad it was in New Orleans, much less a town of 50,000 in Ms. What’s coming will be nationwide & the “power grid” Calvary will NOT be coming! God help us all as we will all need him prepared or not.

  • Bluez

    PLEASE HELP.

    The TV show about Preppers showed a gal who developed a portable water filter that she uses at a lake. Any info on where to buy?

  • Caroline

    I remember when the East Coast Indie Truckers went on strike and drove to Washington D.C. in the late 70’s- many non-indie drivers laid out of work as well. Not much moved those days. Over the years they have been pulling up railroad tracks, so the options decline even more.
    Besides the obvious items…consider learning how to make soap, even if you don’t do anything but stock a melt-and-pour because you don’t have tallow/ash access. Every survival action eventually has the component of ‘clean up’. Too often soap making is a skill overlooked, dismissed and under rated.

  • Andrew Tighe

    To the person who mentioned diesels as a better power source, please be aware that the majority of modern diesel engines are “electronic”, using a solid state control box, which is subject to power surges, EMP, corrosion of wires and other influences. If serious regarding diesel, find a MOD Land Rover, early Ford Diesel 4×4 or a surplus M35 or M800 series truck. Those are “mechanical” diesels, with pushrod activated valve sets, not subject to electronic foolishness. The CUCV series military trucks are “system hardened” and also are viable candidates for transport. Now tell me if you’ve calculated fuel use and storage – if so, triple your final result. And that’s for the first year.

    But seriously, all the preparation is useless unless a “bugout” site is available.

    As a last resort, be prepared to simply turn away and run for it. I find so many of the scenarios involve making some sort of stand.

    Always have a “bugout” plan, a route out of town, an alternative site that will enable you to refit, reconstitute and yes, if necessary, rearm and reload.

    Just sayin’.

  • Born for this

    Things I have not seen mentioned: Food in the ground and meat on the hoof and wing. If you think you’re going to hunt and forage you’ll live like a chicken because that is all you will do with your every waking minute. Consider all the ‘hunters’ out there with you who have never fired a weapon – let alone taken a hunters safety course.

    I get 7 eggs a day from 9 hens and chicks are hatching this week. Eggs can be stored for up to a year without refrigeration – google it.

    My three rabbits turned into 19 rabbits in 4 months even with losing several litters to hypothermia and one to an under experienced doe – she has experience now. 21 day gestation. Checkered Giants, one buc and two does can produce 300 lbs of meat per year. They grow incredibly fast and reach ave weight of 11 lbs at maturity but can be eaten long before maturity. (Rabbit is too lean to sustain optimal health so you’ll need to add some fat to your diet). I feed the rabbits and chickens a bulk mix from the local rural feed mill. Two 55 gal barrels will hold 500 lbs of feed at $10. to $11. per 100 lbs. ($56 last trip)
    Freeze dried food, Katadyn or Berkeley silver-impregnated candle style water filters, rain barrels and lengths of guttering/spouts.
    5 gal buckets are essential and make great toilets, seating, water tight containers, planters, misc storage, water filtration/collection, washing ‘machine’, and the list could go on and on. TOILET PAPER. Barrels of sawdust/wood chips for composting toilets and essential garden mulch. Gardening tools. Get a $98 roll of 6 mil clear plastic from Lowe’s – 20′ by 100′; You’ll need it for ground cover/water barrier under any alt housing and to make greenhouses with.

    Know this: If you live in a city you are absolutely screwed and that is a fact. GET OUT of the cities NOW. You will not survive in a large or even medium sized city – or within a 50 mile radius on a major route. If you do not already have land, I am sorry to say, it is my belief you are too late to get started. Get on preppergroups (dot) com and find yourself a situation. Make sure there is live water on the ground in the way of springs or large stocked ponds – springs are best. Municipalities will commandeer rivers and lakes. Rivers and lakes are a bad choice because human waste and filth from dead carcases will find their way to these very quickly – not to mention the idiots you’ll encounter on the banks and routes of either.
    I could write a book but many are published, and still yet, people believe they can survive in a city.

    • GSOB

      But I’ve seen them survive in the movies?

    • Steve

      again, alot of good advice.

      It takes time to grow food.

      Consider microgreens or sprouts which are fast growing. 3 days to a week or 10 days depending on what seed it is.

      Figure 3 months for other vegies from seed to harvest. Chickens, rabbits, guinea pigs(the cubans grew these during their gasoline crisis), goats, and fish if you have access to a pool or pond.

  • Earl Conlon

    I wrote a book about this about 6 years ago. title “And the trucks quit running”

  • anonymous

    Always good to be prepared, no offense but the start of that list is shit except water filters and guns/weapons. This list is of one who plans to sit around and wait for someone else to bring help and hope you have enough to last,whisks?wtf? People need to ne thinkin long term,what if help never comes? Need to learn to live off the land.ill be deep in the woods hunting and fishing to survive while these fools in town will be killing eachother for the last can of food.

  • Ron

    Yep most folks think there is a warehouse of stuff in the back of the store.
    Our grocery store starts to get bare once in awhile when the roads get closed down in the winter.
    Katrina should have been a wake up call for folks about having some food and water.All those people living below sea level with no inflatable rafts or anything.Getting out of big citys is good advice.

  • Joe Bassett

    The pizza store will always have pizza and what about McDonald’s and Subway? They will make sure they have food. I think you guys are prepping for no reason. Of course country folks will be able to feed themselves, but city folks have to rely on processed nutritious fast food.

    • Glenda

      I see posts like this and just go wow…seriously?

  • vtlasher

    Prepping is just like buying insurance but only a better deal. Each year we buy insurance to cover our homes, autos and health in case something should happen, and in most cases those thousands of dollars don’t return anything on the investment. Spending a few grand on a 20-25 year investment in food is a no-brainer. It’s very cheap insurance on your life should you need it. In light of the current global economic crisis and it’s potential for systemic break downs that will last for decades it is a smart investment. Today Hedgefund managers are buying up “land” by the thousands of acres. These are very rich people who are in the know about the potential risks that we face in the near future. Take a lesson from their actions.

    http://observer.com/2011/05/hedge-farm-the-doomsday-food-price-scenario-turning-hedgies-into-survivalists/

    It’s better to be a little nuts and have something to buy you some time to plan long term than to be starving or worse.

    Cheers.

    • Steve

      those hedge fund managers better have some serious firepower cause the populace will take that land and there will be nothing that those managers can do about it

    • Jackie Bautista

      I just read your comment and I totally agree! at first, I was against prepping but NOW I definitely see the value in simply … being prepared. I am new to this so I don’t really know where to begin. I currently rent a condo and space is limited. My home won’t be finished until Spring of 2014. Therefore, I’m hesitant about prepping since I don’t have any space. What do you recommend for now? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

      – Jackie Bautista

  • http://rense bruce

    I personally would suggest getting ready and get a BOAT. no problems offshore methinks. (given you go far enough away from the u.s.) you can be totally self suficient with batteries, wind and solar. water maker, on board sprouts and a garden. this is do-able, with willpower. just sayin…..other parts of the world (i.e. 3rd world) will not even notice the events, which most probably won’t even change their daily routine.

  • pua mana

    Having lived “off grid” for over 30 yrs, I’ve picked up a few tips. An LED headlamp is far superior to any flashlight, leaves your hands free. a staple gun and 1/2″ staples has a million uses. also seeds for sprouting gives fresh vegies every few days.

    • Steve

      pua, thanks for the tip on the led headlite.

      I need to refresh the batteries in mine.

      I have a couple of hand driven staple guns with a few thousand staples.

      Getting ready to buy a roll of 250 micron poly plastic for whatever.

      Buy lots of rope.

      I have enough sprout seeds to feed 4 people for 3/4 of a year while I grow sprouts to seed to keep it going.

      Seeds, seeds, and more seeds.

      Learn how to build a rabbit cage now.

      Stock up on things you can barter with.

  • DB RN

    I have a certification in Just In Time production from the Inventory Control Society (APICS). Everything stated above is 100% true.

  • Veryoldtimer

    I see little to do with health products other than stockpiling medicines and water purifying materials, let me add a little.
    Other water purifying products that don’t take up much space.

    Citrus fruit SEED extract or grapefruit SEED extract. Only a drop or two to a glass. Good for UTI infections and general stomach upsets as well
    Oral Aqueous Iodine Solution AKA Lugol,s Iodine Solution or SSKI. One drop per glass to purify, adults need 3 drops per day for optimum health unless you have an overactive Thyroid. Do not exceed three drops a day total for any long period. Betadine. 1% iodine good for skin cuts burns outbreaks, used in surgery to sterilize skin. Five drops of this equals one of Lugols’s

    Permanganate of potash AKA potassium permanganate, Condy’s Crytstals. Enough crystals to give a distinct Mauve color will sterilize utensils, water cooling porous canvas bags or unglazed stoneware and for drinking and sterilising fruit and vegs, again not for long term use for drinking.
    Some mentioned sterilising water in plastic bottles, putting them in a solar oven might speed the process, several hours over 165°F will fix most pathogens.
    Herbs and Spices
    Heart conditions. Cayenne Pepper can stop a heart attack in its tracks. One teaspoon in a glass of water or as is if no water available. It has worked for me and I always have it with me now, house car or shopping. For heart health eat some Hawthorn berries four or five a day, they can be dried. If berries are not available leaves and small twigs have the same effect, they can be dried or make an extract with alcohol. Look up how to make extracts.

    Turmeric which has the active ingredient Curcumin. Good for Arthritis, Cancer, clogged arteries, and a host of other ailments. Turmeric powder can be bought in bulk at heath food shops, store in screw top plastic or glass jars. Helps flavour spoiled meat as in curry and makes beans more palatable. Best taken with Black Pepper Powder as this increases absorption by orders of magnitude. Curcumin is one of the most researched health foods by University studies and has amazing health properties.

    Cinnamon flakes or powder for type 2 diabetics, teaspoon daily for average, look this up, although a month on hunter gatherer diet will fix this anyway!

    Coconut oil, cold pressed from health food store, most commercial stuff is hydrogenated and is almost poisonous. Coconut oil keeps at normal temperature for a year or so, has a high safe cooking temp, fixes first and second degree burns without scars and creates energy without fattening. Good for skin complaints.

    Olive leaf extract. Immune booster and parasite fungus and unhealthy bug killer taken internally. Topically, antiseptic qualities. Make your own from olive leaves as a tea for external use but is not so effective as commercial stuff internally as there is a process that stops stomach acid deactivating it.

    Tea Tree Oil, Cuts bites stings, may help with midges and mozzie protection.

    Young pine needles are a good source of vit C in spring.

    When cattle and game are all gone there will be plenty of grass. We can’t live on grass? wrong, we can’t eat it but macerated grass provides all the nutrients to build game and cattle if we discard the fibre. A hand juicer may be too cumbersome to take but you can improvise with two flat stones or pieces of concrete and a bowl, squeeze out the juice for the thicker juice and wash the remainder to get the rest out. Wheatgrass juice is very healthy, but it does taste pretty awful, mint helps, so don’t forget flavourings.

    Get a book on edible weeds and fungi, it may save your life. Many weeds are poisonous so with fungi. No grass is poisonous. Pits of apricot, plums cherries and other stone fruit have a type of cyanide in them but if you do not eat more of them than you would the whole fruit in one day they are pretty safe, I eat them, all but the strongest bitter almond taste. Elder berries are edible in moderation, (terrific wine) Some berries are ok if fully ripe, like the night shade family is supposed to be poisonous, but as some authorities said they are ok if ripe and I tried them, I’m still here. Like our Australian Gov. Botanical list of poisonous plants list Barberry and Field Mushrooms as poisonous, I haven’t found it so, and I enjoy a giant puffball too if found while it is white all through, big enough for one slice to fill a frypan.

  • Veryoldtimer

    A few afterthoughts, Dentists won’t be available so you must look after your teeth and gums. Bicarbonate of soda aka sodium bicarbonate not baking soda is good for a toothpaste, just dip the damp toothbrush in it. Toothache, Oil of Cloves is a painkiller for a bad filling and disinfects it too.

    Xylitol is a sugar made from birch-bark or now wood that has a marvellous preventative effect on tooth decay. It can be found at health food shops for around $20 a pound. Well researched by the Finnish Government, children who used chewing gum sweetend with xylitol for a few weeks had virtually no caries for 8 years after. Couln’t be too hard to fold some into softened chewing gum, or just let a small spoonful swill around the mouth occaisionally. It is also very effective for ear infections, even of long standing ones, just put a few drops of a solution in the ear.

  • CLB RN

    After reading the comments it appears we all have some work to do. A NOTE OF INTEREST; There is another web site you might want to look at. It is called AVOW- A Voice of Warning, Hosted by a fellow prepper. On it there is a free download. A 500 page book that covers everything people can do to prepare; called, LDS PREPAREDNESS MANUAL, Handbook 2. Also on ebay there are water filters made by the Sawyer Company which sell for $50.00 to $125.00, depending on what you want, which will filter over 1 million gallons without replacing the filter. They use hollow fiber filters and a two bucket method; and you backflush when the flow slows down.They remove 999.9% of everything down to less than 1 micron, all bacteria. Great website!! KEEP IT COMING.

  • http://google Garry

    I’ve been reading about 3/4 of the comments by a cross section of
    you preppers. All I can say is, we’re in a world of hurt. We can’t eat a bar of soap, you soap makers, or live on dog food, you pet owners. Food, even dog-food runs out. We can’t live on a hand-full of newly germinated sprouts. They run-out too. If you feel you can stay and defend your house by shooting a crook, his buddies will burn you out. The cities will burn down from there being no fire departments. No police (they’ll be at their own homes trying to protect their own families)..The freeways will become a parking lot with cars out of gas. The stores will be empty. People will be shot by others who think others will have something, anything of value. No one will want gold or diamonds. Food and water will be what desperate people will kill for. There will be dead bodies on the street, looting and the worst side of society will wander free.
    The fantasy of living through this in a populated area is a sad joke.
    If you’re seen outdoors you will be killed for anything you might have .Every river will be lined with the hungry, and the dead will be floating by. Everyone will be wanting to leave, just like you. Walking. Thieves will steal the bicycles after shooting the riders.
    Now picture yourself walking for two days and coming face to face with the people hoping where you just left is better than where they’re coming from, that’s the direction you’ve been walking towards for two days. (meaning there is no place to go) Hospitals and drug stores would be stripped clean. First by the junkies and then the hungry and the sick. People will resort to cannibalism and worse. Life will have no value. Now when solutions are suggested like buying WD-40 and duct tape, and backyard gardens, I’m shaking my head knowing these suggestions are being made by the people who’s bodies will be dead in the streets. This is what it means for when ‘the Shit Hits The Fan’..
    May God help us all from what’s coming our way.

  • http://google Garry

    I’m sorry for losing control with the picture I’ve painted above.
    I was talking out of turn and not considering every effort to prepare is a positive effort. What I accomplished was destroying
    positive efforts by good people. I wish I were able to erase what I said. Again, I’m so sorry.

  • Ernie

    Wow Garry, thanks for stating the obvious. I think the article was intended to help people to see that prepared people will be better off than non-prepared people in a crisis event. I don’t think the intent was to make anyone think they can prepare for TEOTWAWKI scenario or a near extinction-like event that you described.

  • Garry

    Yeah Ernie,
    I truly am sorry. I was out of line. A darker side of me got loose while my big mouth was open.
    Speaking at a more sane level, I agree with you. Any effort made to prepare for unforeseen circumstances is always a step in the right direction.

  • Justin

    How about take all your guns ammo, and other useful things and head over to a local farmer or rancher… Plenty of food and they’d probably be happy to have a hired hand/ guard. Just don’t whine about a little hard labor. Even after the infrastructure falls Agriculture won’t end. Some of us aren’t dumb

  • http://www.inthetropics.net mark

    People elsewhere are doing it now! I live in the SAFE HAVEN of Belize, a stable, english-speaking democracy, on the Caribbean coast of Central America. I live TOTALLY OFF-GRID. All our electricity and water comes from the sky! I have enough electricity (solar & wind) for AC, a modern kitchen, and a workshop. Go ahead, leave the light on, I don’t care, the sun will be out tomorrow, and the Caribbean breeze is constant. We can grow 3 CROP HARVESTS PER YEAR. We are on the Caribbean coast, with all the fish we can eat. By road (4WD) or by boat, we can get ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. We’ve even got private airstrips nearby.

    We are remote and lock-down secure. DEFWU. What we don’t grow on site (we do grow oranges, grapefruit, bananas, plantain, mangos, coffee, cacao, tropical fruits & vegetables, chickens, etc) we buy & trade from local bush farmers. 80 inches of rainfall/year. Everybody here knows how to weather hurricanes, in 2010 we hunkered down and withstood a direct hit from Hurricane Richard with little damage – however many more hurricanes hit the US every year.

    More people live in Colorado Springs than the entire country of Belize. We have zero neighbors, and are surrounded by thousands of hectares of wild, national lands. Jaguars have eaten two of our watchdogs, but they were here first so we dont bother them. Monkeys & parrots sometimes eat or bananas and corn, but we will figure a way limit that.

    There are many tropical safe havens throughout the world, with PEACEFUL & WISE residents who know how to thrive close to the land, and are glad to teach others. But Belize is where I will be when grids fail. If my sat-dish stops working at about the same time I see a dim flash way up in the northern sky, I might wonder in a week or so – why don’t they write?

    There is room for others. You really should check this out.

  • http://twopooches.com Robin

    Prepper… funny how a TV show brings to us the term that relates to “crazy people”. It does sound better than “survivalist” though. Reality needs to kick in and we need to stop thinking about some unrealistic scenario. Then preppers won’t be labeled as crazy. We need to see what is right in front of us. Bad weather, power outages, loss of income. These are all realistic situations that can quickly deplete what we have or able to get. Along with all of the extra food and supplies people should have on hand; they also need the skills that go along with the lack of electricity and other power sources. All my life we have camped, cooked things from scratch, canned, had a garden etc.. I have always had at minimum a 3 day supply of food and water for my family. I took my skills for granted. I am amazed at how many people really can’t survive well without everyday conveniences. I know people that are “Prepping” can’t even start a fire or even know what to do with all of that food they have stashed. Most people don’t even have a good emergency first aid book on hand. As “Preppers” we should help out our friends and neighbors, share what we learn along the way, learn the skills, network our skills,and know what is available so in a bad situation we can all work together.
    You don’t need to buy all of that expensive food and equipment, learn how to work with everyday items. I recently read a book that gave some common sense advice and suggestions. “Poverty Prepping: How to Stock up For Tomorrow When You Can’t Afford To Eat Today”. Also I strongly recommend “SAS Survival Handbook, Revised Edition: For Any Climate, in Any Situation”.
    Being a “Prepper” is not crazy, it’s just smart!

  • http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/read-this-first-before-you-decide-that-preppers-are-crazy nattyis

    Most companies like Walmart have their own trucks. The Mexicans are more than willing to take American trucking jobs for less pay. I am opposed to this but truckers can be replaced. Truth hurts but the dirty dogs in Washington has already calculated a plan B approach; “should truckers quit trucking products to the consumers”. Then you have SCHWANS who already bring frozen food, drink boxes, and ice cream to your door. YES, I buy from SCHWANS where most of their trucks are ran on propane gas. For those unfamiliar with Schwans they are those yellow trucks with a Schwan on the side. There are similar companies with their own trucks. Not to mention the Canadian trucks……there are still trains that run product. Some way or some how somebody will step up to the plate and be more than willing to get the job done.

    • dmw1122

      Ok problems with your statment first if truckers stop driving that means the trucks will be sitting on the side of the road second mexicans cant drive worth ******* jkjk lmfao third how in the hell do u think schwans gets that food trains deliver to warehouses then the trucks distribute it out to stores and not to forget a lot of trucks own there trucks i know my spelling and grammer suck so bite me

      • dmw1122

        Truckers^

  • Morgan

    What is described here is probably going to be the result of ONE event which is virtually inevitable. All of our trucking, ships, aircraft, monitary system, communication systems, and (most importantly) the power grid are controlled by the internet. Over the last twenty years it has grown to the point where it has become essential to our survival. As it has grown ever larger it has also become ever more vulnerable to attack, natural disaster, or just accidental failure. There are terrorist groups and governments (like Iran and North Korea) who are expending huge amounts of money and effort to find a way to bring down the Net. When one of them succeeds, the results will be immediate and it would take weeks or longer to rebuild it. The power generation and distribution systems all over the country will immediately go open-loop and shut down. Take a look at what happened in southwest Arizona, Southern California, and northern Mexico last year when a technician flipped the wrong switch at one distribution station. The resulting loss of power and communication would probably make it nearly impossible to reestablish the Net.
    Remember, we only experience the prosperity that we are enjoying because of our ability to distribute food, raw materials, power, money, and finished products over the entire country and our trading partners. The world does not have the ability to support the current population without this system.

    • TotallyRandomName

      Trucks can run just fine without the internet. We’d just work a little less efficiently. I bet you stockpiled like crazy for Y2K, didn’t you?

      • lisa

        you are not uderstanding that trucks won’t need to run . Especially if the rest of the world has no use for our money. The dollar is becoming less desireable all the time. The bigger you are the faster you fall. Look how hard it is to do without water or electricity for just a few days. One last note— Noah’s Ark—- Henny Penny read the stories!!

        • Glenda

          you can’t help someone who does not want to be helped…they are happy in their ignorance…they would rather live in their lit’l fantasy world than face reality…and so these people will mock, make fun of, and ridicule those who don’t

      • Glenda

        I read this and still am just going…wow…Y2K…what did ‘I’ buy…toilet paper…why because I was already prepared…just how I live…not paranoid…just prepared

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    When the SHTF you’re going to want a chemical protection suit for each one of your clan. The tychem “F” hazmat suit is the best availible for the money. $17 each (shipping included) is a small price to pay for piece of mind. Buy them on ebay at the link below or just go to ebay and search for item number 330805831929

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  • Pinball

    Hello US, I’ve only just picked up on the lead article by Michael back in April but readily concur with the sentiment that ‘disaster’ might only be moments away. I base that opinion on my observations of relatively minor incidents that have happened here in the UK in recent years, interestingly based on weather as opposed to ‘zombie making’ events. The first is that everytime we get caught out by a sudden spell of cold, snowy weather that lasts even only a couple of days our road and sometimes rail systems grind to a halt. Within days there are shortages in supermarkets, panic buying and a run on what few local shops that are left, totally depletes them. The second relates to excessive rainfall that we seem to be getting here in recent years causing widespread flooding. One (relatively localised)flood caused not only extensive water damage to private property but also knocked out only ONE electricity sub station. The knock-on effect was that water pumping stations couldn’t function. No tap water meant the distribution of tankered and bottled water. And here lays the issue – during the distribution of that water it didn’t take very long for law and order to break down – people gave up queing for it in an orderly manor, they just started to help themselves – and the (limited resourced)local police stood by and watched! (A water trailer was even stolen!) So for those who think Preppers are ‘a sandwich short of a full picnic’ my response is – if you have the confidence in the authorities to deal with such an emergency if it ever occurs on a national (or even international) basis effectively – you’ll be thristy before I will!

  • TotallyRandomName

    This article is about six kinds of dumb. As if all truckers are going to decide at once that they no longer need a paycheck.

    • Glenda

      with no electricity…there is no fuel…with no fuel…there is no trucking…simple actually if you think about it…do you have a horse? there might be grass.

    • dingdong

      Ahh..you know that fuel pumps require electricity in most cases right? You also realize that risking one’s life to deliver food to the grocery store will take on a whole nother dimension – one that most will not risk their lives for…right. ?

  • Responsible Adult !!!

    Fail To Plan?
    Plan To Fail.

    The people who fail to plan for anything are always the ones complaining that no one was there to help them after something happens. While some of you may disagree with the author’s specific concern of the trucks stopping, there are many other realistic things will happen (only a matter of time) that the foolish masses have ZERO plans for, a good example would be a lot of people that ended up in the SuperDome after Katrina, with dead bodies literally laying in the streets outside for days.

    Even FEMA and the CDC have spent huge amounts of money for years to convince people to AT A MINIMUM prepare so that their household can be completely self sufficient for at least 3 days… Wow, 3 days? FEMA is trying to get that across to the masses and its truly scary that most people couldn’t last THAT long.

    If you’re not in a financial position to get out (of wherever you are) and stay out for at least a month, you better be prepared to survive at home. Even Hurricane Wilma, only a category 1, that hit south Florida, an area where the population is supposedly educated and knowledgeable in Hurricane preparation, saw HUGE (like 4-5 hours huge) lines to get gas, water, ice and food for about 10 days after the storm hit. Even after that it was slow to get back to normal. Most people were without power for 7-10 days as well. Andrew was way worse. I’ll bet those people in the 5 hour water lines thought preppers were crazy too.

    Sure, maybe the trucks across the country won’t stop running, but somehow I’m thinking the odds of a strong hurricane hitting the southeast US sometime in my life is pretty darn realistic. And yes, there are some crazy friggin’ preppers out there, but how crazy is living in south Florida or in the New Orleans flood plain with no insurance, no food or water and no preparations in place for something that hits somewhere almost EVERY year.

    Call me crazy, but I think my month’s supply of food, water and generator fuel is simply being a RESPONSIBLE person who won’t be relying on the government to come save me WHEN the SHTF…

    • dingdong

      Well..being responsible is a whole nother thing. We are now living in a nation where our government has urged people to become dependent on government assistance, and about 40% of them have acquiesced.
      You, me and anyone else who sees the handwriting on the wall of things to come, should just get over “others being responsible for themselves”; cause very damned few of them will take that initiative.
      clearly a huge number of ignorant people voted the liar in not once, but twice and poll after poll show huge numbers supporting the liar and minions on clear constitutional violations, and nothing is done.
      GET OVER PEOPLE TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEMSEVLES.
      It’s simply not going to happen anymore.
      Those days are gone.

  • Devil dog

    You people are all nuts

    • Monkeywrench542 .

      yep, you call us nuts now. if something does in fact happen, you will be one of the 1st to be looting from people who have prepared, and probably lose your life in the process of looting.

  • Glenda

    my husband was sharing some of the comments from this site, as well as some others, with me…I guess I am amazed at how many people are freaking out about some of this and then at how many others just seem oblivious…we all should be prepared for the natural disasters that occur…I also believe that much worse is to come…so the question everyone needs to ask themselves…’would your lifestyle sustain you in the event that there is no electricity, no access to food and water’…if not, then where and how would you get these basic commodities needed for survival…there will come a time when there will be no restaurants, no grocery stores, no gas, and most of all…no help…are you ready?

  • Tracey

    I live way off the coast of australia, actually above a mountain range that would hopefully stop a tsunami of high magnitude. A few years ago we had a tsunami hit our town, this is not a joke just youtube tsunami toowoomba. This happened without warning, lives were lost. People driving down town did get washed away and were killed. We’ve had floods before but no one could’ve ever imagined what was comming. I’m getting to the point ! This happened early afternoon, and by that same time the next day- milk was GONE, bread was GONE, water was GONE- I remember going to the shops early that morning and being in complete shock that alot of the shelves were empty. Canned goods also disappeared quickly. It can happen anywhere, at anytime! And if you think because of your geographical location that you’re safe from these life changing events- you’re NUTS! Preppers are helping people become aware that you’re not always safe. Is it really going to hurt to be a little prepared? No. But it’ll hurt not being prepared.

  • dingdong

    To the arthor; people don’t think preppers are crazy because they don’t realize all of thing they understand could happen in a chain of events, they think preppers are crazy because preppers have absolutely no way of knowing that an event is even to occur, let alone an event which would be on the scale or level which would cause such a chain of events.
    There is a huge difference…you know that right?

  • Semper Fidelis

    This article is right on the nail. The only drawback for America is that the US government has just signed legislation allowing the Feds to enter ANY and all homes to confiscate any “hoarded ” food and drink . They want it for the army and rescue services!
    So prepping is a waste of time. How DARE they when the government could be stocking up with 25 year shelf-life food themselves!

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