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Russia And China Stand In Agreement On Ukraine – And That Is Very Bad News For The United States

Vladimir_Putin_with_Zhang_DeguangSo much for “isolating” Russia.  The Chinese government is publicly siding with Russia on the crisis in Ukraine, and that is very bad news for the United States.  Not only does it mean that the U.S. is essentially powerless to do anything about the situation in Ukraine, it also means that Russia and China are starting to understand how much economic leverage that they really have.  Yes, the Obama administration can threaten to slap “sanctions” on Russia or threaten to kick Russia “out of the G8“, but those actions would not actually hurt too much.  On the other hand, Russia and China hold approximately 25 percent of all foreign-owned U.S. debt, and if they started massively dumping U.S. debt it could rapidly create a nightmare scenario.  In addition, it is important to remember that Russia is the largest exporter of natural gas and the second largest exporter of oil in the world.  And China now imports more oil than anyone else on the planet does, including the United States.  If Russia and China got together and decided to kill the petrodollar, they could do it almost overnight.  So when it comes to Ukraine, it is definitely not the United States that has the leverage.

If China and the rest of the world abandoned Russia over Ukraine, that would be one thing.  But that is not happening at all.  In fact, China has chosen to publicly stand with Russia on this issue.  The following is from a Sky News article entitled “Russia And China ‘In Agreement’ Over Ukraine“…

Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov discussed Ukraine by telephone with his Chinese counterpart, Wang Yi, on Monday, and claimed they had “broadly coinciding points of view” on the situation there, according to a ministry statement.

And Chinese state news agency Xinhua is publicly rebuking the West for their handling of the Ukrainian crisis…

China’s state news agency Xinhua accused western powers of adopting a Cold War- like mindset towards Russia, trying to isolate Moscow at a time when much needed mediation is need to reach a diplomatic solution to the crisis in Crimea.

“Based on the fact that Russia and Ukraine have deep cultural, historical and economic connections, it is time for Western powers to abandon their Cold War thinking. Stop trying to exclude Russia from the political crisis they failed to mediate, and respect Russia’s unique role in mapping out the future of Ukraine,” Xinhua wrote in an opinion piece.

Apparently clueless as to how the geopolitical chips are falling, the Obama administration is busy planning all sorts of ways that it can punish Russia

Behind the scenes, Obama administration officials are preparing a series of possible battle plans for a potential economic assault on Russia in response to its invasion of Ukraine, an administration source close to the issue told The Daily Beast. Among the possible targets for these financial attacks: everyone from high-ranking Russian military officials to government leaders to top businessmen to Russian-speaking separatists in Ukraine. It’s all part of the work to prepare an executive order now under consideration at the Obama administration’s highest levels.

Does the Obama administration really want to start an “economic war” with Russia and potentially against China as well?

Considering how much money we owe them, and considering the fact that we desperately need them to continue to use the petrodollar, we stand to lose far more than they do.

This is one of the reasons why I have always insisted that the national debt was a national security issue.  By going into so much debt, we have given other nations such as Russia and China a tremendous amount of leverage over us.

Unfortunately, the debtmongers in Washington D.C. never have listened to common sense.

When it comes to Ukraine, there are other economic considerations as well.

For example, about 25 percent of the natural gas that Europe uses comes from Russia, and Ukraine only has about four months of natural gas supplies stockpiled.

If Russia cut off the natural gas, that would create some huge problems.  Fortunately, winter is just about over or the Russians would have even more leverage.

In addition, Ukraine is one of the leading exporters of wheat and corn on the planet, and a disruption in the growing of those crops could make the emerging global food crisis even worse.

But of course the biggest concern is that the Ukraine crisis could ultimately spark a global war.

Unfortunately, there is a treaty that requires the United States to defend Ukraine if it is attacked…

President Bill Clinton, along with the British, signed in 1994 a nearly forgotten agreement to protect Ukraine’s borders. Ukraine now is appealing to the countries that signed the agreement.

As the British Daily Mail points out, it means that, technically, if Russia were to invade Ukraine, it would be difficult for the U.S. and Britain to avoid going to war.

Given that the late Russian president, Boris Yeltsin also signed it, it was apparent that it wasn’t expected that the Russians would take the action that Putin now is undertaking.

And top Ukrainian politicians are now asking western nations to come to the aid of Ukraine militarily

Ukraine’s former prime minister Yulia Tymoshenko has appealed for the West to adopt ‘strongest means’ to intervene in Russia’s occupation of Crimea if diplomacy fails.

In an interview with CNN’s Christiane Amanpour, Tymoshenko, freed last week after the riots throughout the nation, said if Russia is allowed to ‘take away’ Crimea, life will change ‘practically everywhere in the world.’

She added: ‘Then we have to accept… an aggressor, can violate all the international agreements, take away territories, whenever she likes.’

On the other side, deposed Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych has formally requested that Russia militarily intervene in his nation…

Russia’s U.N. envoy said Monday that ousted Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych asked Russia to send troops to “establish legitimacy, peace, law and order, stability, and defending the people of Ukraine.” Russian Ambassador Vitaly Churkin read a letter from Yanukovych at the U.N. Security Council meeting.

“Ukraine is on the brink of civil war. In the country, there is chaos and anarchy. The life, the security and the rights of people, particularly in the southeast part in Crimea are being threatened. So under the influence of Western countries, there are open acts of terrorism and violence. People are being persecuted for language and political reasons,” the letter said. “So in this regard, I would call on the President of Russia, Mr. Putin, asking him to use the armed forces of the Russian Federation to establish legitimacy, peace, law and order, stability, and defending the people of Ukraine.”

And it is very important to note that Yanukovych would have never issued this letter if the Russian government has not asked him to.

So the stage is set.

Russia has already grabbed Crimea, and it is eyeing other territories in eastern Ukraine.

China is publicly backing Russia, and collectively they have a tremendous amount of economic leverage.

The Obama administration is barking loudly about what Russia has done, but the reality is that the U.S. has very little economic leverage at this point.

What the U.S. does have is the strongest military on the entire planet, but let us hope and pray that Obama does not decide to get the U.S. military involved in Ukraine.  That would be absolutely disastrous.

In the end, the U.S. has no good options in Ukraine.  The Obama administration helped aid and organize the violent revolution that overthrew the Ukrainian government, and now we have a giant mess.

Nobody is quite sure what comes next, but one thing is certain…

The relationship between the United States and Russia will never, ever be the same again.

  • Beanodle

    Ukraine is also one of the world’s largest grain exporters. Food prices would shoot up in Europe with the curtailing of this export

  • Robbie

    I Am a British and hope that Putin beats the west and hopeful puts an end to the terrible Socialist policies that have been ruining the west since WW2.

    • Syrin

      Do you understand that Putin is the head of a socialist state, one of the worst on the planet?

      • animalaura

        Wow… YOU ARE REALLY IN THE WRONG. Do some research about Russia in the past twenty years, and about Putin himself. Do this before you show the whole world how ignorant you… again.

      • Kirill

        Syrin, You are so much wrong! A little bit about Russia:
        low underemployment (5.5%) – no worrying about work
        hightly developed healthcare facility and free healthinsurance – no worrying about health
        free education – no worrying about education of your children
        strong army – no worrying about agression
        low depth – no worrying about banksters
        list goes on…

        Of course there are a lot of problems but we are getting better.

        An example:
        When my wife got pregnant she spent 2 weeks in clinic just to be sure that everything is ok. Then 2 weeks in midterm and 2 weeks when childbirth. 6 weeks for free(!). Could you imagine this happens in US? Now we are going to make second child. BTW we have medium income and no debh.

        • caschmid@centurytel.net

          Unfortunately, what the government gives can be taken away; or used as leverage to control.

          • Uh-hUh

            And that is different from America how? Do you guys not understand that we are ONLY allowed to do in America what the government allows us to do? And it is getting less and less all the time. How’s that extra-large soda? Did you light that cigarette in public? And tell me, why is it again that Americans pay more for food that doesn’t poison you with the additives versus less (i.e., natural, normal food)? THERE IS NOW NO DIFFERENCE!!!! WAKE UP!!!

        • ZZZ

          But all of the free stuff is Socialism…somebody is paying for it…and it isn’t coming out of Putin’s pocket.

          • Uh-hUh

            ZZZ…Russia is like the second largest exporter of oil and the first of gas…they can afford it. AND if you think America isn’t socialistic now…you can get your head examined by your Obamacare physicians…just don’t mention guns or the Constitution (like you used to be able to when it was a Constitutional Republic…shhhhhhhh!)

        • GSOB

          There is no such thing as a free puppy.

  • K

    It was not bad enough the U.S. got caught, supporting groups in Syria associated with Al Qaeda. Now we are supposed to support the Ukraine, even though it is being run by mostly Nazis? If we do this, then that is the final proof we as a Country,we are morally bankrupt

  • KillerKali

    i’d suggest china worry about fixing their polution problem, their economy is highly dependent on the U.S by the way

  • Hiroshi Yamamoto

    I always thought that Third World War will start in the Middle East and Israel will be the key. Well, Ukraine is de facto middle east of Europe. Just look on the Europe map. This middle east (Israel, Saudi Arabia,Egypt, etc) is more like of south east for the Old World (Europe). Crimea is close to Turkey. So then south of the Ukraine is de facto close to the Middle East and is a “middle east” of the Europe.

    • watchmanonthetower

      Your arrow struck close to center circle, Hiroshi.

      Syria IS the main event in WW3 – Ukraine is the momentary distraction; the feint meant to misdirect your eyes (we are all watching, right?)
      Keep an eye on the other hand; Syria is that hand.

      ~Watchman

  • PK

    I think many Americans side with Russia on this situation. I don’t understand the history well enough to have an educated opinion. I do have a gut feeling that we would be better off to stay away from any kind of conflict.

    • midwestprepper

      Sure got that right U.S. is bankrupt on all fronts and Puin KNOWS THIS!

      • Spelling bee

        Putin.

    • Syrin

      Let me summarize it for you. Central banks OWN the gov’ts of the world, including the US. The Ukraine had its gov’t toppled with the aid of CIA operatives, and a central banker was named president. The IMF has announced, not once, but twice, that the Ukraine is now on the auctioning block with the aid of numerous Soros funded groups. So, yet again, Soros and the central banks topple a nation for personal plunder. The Soviets are not happy about this turn of events and have blocked off all ports of access to the Ukraine so NATO cannot come to the aid. They have put their subs in location to sink potential NATO ships. The Ukraine is surrounded by Soviet forces who will retake the Ukraine in a matter of days assuming no intervention from the West. The entire situation is highly fluid and subject to change and could escalate rapidly to regional or even world war.

      • smallergovnow

        Great summary Syrin. Spot on…

      • caschmid@centurytel.net

        I understand everything except the relationship with the IMF. What does ‘on the chopping block’ mean?

        • Syrin

          I meant “auctioning block” meaning they are going to take all their resources and wealth.

          • caschmid@centurytel.net

            Thank you.

          • Gay Veteran

            can’t believe I’m agreeing with you.
            as Gerald Celente says: they will sell public assets for pennies on the dollar to their buddies

      • English Kev

        I’m pretty sure Mi6 has been doing business there also.

    • Uh-hUh

      Who in the world is NOT sick of the bankers’ meddling courtesy of their lapdog, the U,S.? As an American citizen, I am totally and thoroughly disgusted by everything that has been done in the last several decades. This meddling has NOT been along the lines of our involvement of WWII…this meddling since the Vietnam War has been NOTHING but banker meddling and war machine meddling that began with Johnson and his cronies and is ONLY intended to enrich their wallets…I am not one to judge BUT if I had the job of judge, I know where they would be headed in the next existence – where their money couldn’t buy them a way out.

      • Rob W

        Actually, that machine got it’s start in the Eisenhower administration, and is what he was warning us about in his 1961 farewell address when he talked about the “military industrial complex”, a term coined in that speech…

        • Uh-hUh

          Heck, Andrew Jackson was battling the bankers.

          Eisenhower warned that we were spending too much on the military and how influential it was becoming and the dangers of “unwarranted influence.”

          However, it was not until the false flag with the Gulf of Tonkin when Johnson was president that the war machine really started churning, with no thought to American deaths as long as it made HIM and his pals money.

          Johnson was as evil then as Obama is today.

          • Rob W

            Johnson didn’t wag the dog, and Obama is taking marching orders too. But, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

          • Uh-hUh

            At what point do we demand that people have accountability for their actions? If Johnson implemented their policies, then, yes, he DID do it. I don’t care who is giving the orders. At what point do you stand up and say, ” THIS IS WRONG!!!!” and refuse to do immoral acts?

            If Obama is carrying out “orders” …which are obviously NOT Constitutional orders given by anybody elected to office…then he TOO is wrong, wrong, wrong and just as guilty.

      • davidnrobyn

        Uh-hUh, I suspect your wish will be granted without your getting the job of Judge.
        BTW, it would behoove us all to be on the right side of said Judge when our time comes (and it will).

    • toray99

      Don’t you think it’s funny , how the USA wants Russia to respect the Ukraine’s border ? How about , the US respecting their own border , with Mexico.

      • davidnrobyn

        Huh? I’m not sure what you’re referring to. Is it the pre-1845 border? If that’s the case, rest assured that the border has, de facto, been restored.

  • PK

    What a shame that we are destroying our relationship with Russia after working hard for so many years toward peace.

  • FortuneSeek3rz

    If Russia decides to invade, say, mainland Ukraine or Latvia and Estonia, etc, then there is an international problem that cannot be ignored. But at this point, the U.S. needs to sit on their hands. This has not been a violent takeover.

    • GSOB

      The US needs to support the Ukrainian government to bring further stability in Kiev.

      To little,….perhaps to late.
      No need to go to war though.

      • garand555

        The US needs to stay out of this. I do not fancy eating SS-18 Satan irradiated food.

        • GSOB

          Think about it….
          What Putin did for the Russians in Crimea
          our POTUS should have done for Kiev months ago.

          Putin looks good now. Seems that many Americans
          favor him and beat up on Obama for ‘doing nothing’ or for spreading freedom.

          Obama is doing the right thing… that is, he is not going to war.
          His administration is supporting Kiev financially,…

          …and Kerry needs to watch his inflammatory remarks. Words can spark a fire real quick.

          I’m proud to be an American and what the POTUS is doing right now regarding this is good.
          (as of 3/4/2014)

          Both Putin and the POTUS are concerned about the government over in Crimea and the rest of the Ukraine.
          No need to go to war and start quoting scripture that has already been fulfilled..

          Stabilize the people’s government, let there be a democratic process of election and move on….

          • Gay Veteran

            sounds like you need to grab a rifle and fly to Kiev.
            we don’t need any more wars of foreign entanglements! think what that $5 BILLION we spent in Ukraine could have done for the American people

          • GSOB

            No. Just a Bible

          • Spelling bee

            or

      • Gay Veteran

        what Ukranian government? you mean the one we installed by spending $5 BILLION? the one backed by neo-nazis?

        • GSOB

          The one Clinton made a treaty with.

          • Gay Veteran

            you mean the nation whose lawful president just asked for Russian military assistance?
            btw, was that treaty ratified?

  • AvidReader

    Next up: China to invade Taiwan?

    • Gilbert

      With Putin’s blessings.

    • Mondobeyondo

      Oh please no.

      How many world wars will it take for us to finally figure it out?……

  • Abingdon

    Obama reminds me of old western movies where the cowboy puts a chip on his shoulder and dares the other man to knock it off . However, once the other man knocks it off he doesn’t do anything but put the chip back on his shoulder and repeat the same dare. I believe Obama will keep drawing lines and making speeches of sanctions and nothing more. I wish Obama would just shutup because those is not our fight. I still can’t get over the humiliation of Obama having his photographer take a picture with him in his denim talking to Putin via telephone . As if he can’t get enough attn with his selfies? Good grief!

    • Abingdon

      Statement just released:
      ” We hold a decent amount of treasury bonds – more than $200 billion – and if the United States dares to freeze accounts of Russian businesses and citizens, we can no longer view America as a reliable partner,” he said. “We will encourage everybody to dump US Treasury bonds, get rid of dollars as an unreliable currency and leave the US market.”

      • Abingdon

        Btw that was said by Russian presidential advisor, Sergei Glazyev, which came before Putin’s detente press conference early this morning.

  • Imaplaneiac

    Since the Divides States no longer has the Space Shuttles what happens to Americans on the Space Station if the Russians cease ferrying our astronauts to / from the Space Station; as a form of retaliation?! Americans could be imprisoned or marooned in Space!

    • Eric Quintero

      This made me lol for some reason.

      I dont think anyone ever thinks about that astronauts.

    • David Bowie

      “..for here am I floating in my tin can..far above the world…planet earth is blue and there’s nothing I can do..”

      • Imaplaneiac

        D B, is that a quote from the Ground Control to Major Tom track?

  • goldminer

    I am not very proud to be an American these days. Our government is against us and the whole world. Obama promised us hope and change. But gave us hate and despair. I am rooting for mother Russia in this one.
    I just hope our biggest crop is not mushrooms.

    • chilller

      The NWO has no sovereign countries in their future…only them. The more war and chaos on mother earth, the better chances for them to take the reins…The leaders of outside the west would be better suited to find these NWO miscreants and declare war on THEM! They are the true evil associated with most of the events we see unfolding today…

      • GSOB

        IN the NWO, everyone is a Federal employee.

      • Joe_HTH

        Spare me the BS conspiracy theories.

    • Drud

      Neither am I. We have been an international bully for decades and now the smaller kids have the power and all we have is posturing and the possibility of doomsday, recognizing that we can win we overturn the board over like a spoiled child. Also, though I am not one of the blame Obama crowd, since I believe our problems span many administrations and both sides of the aisle, every move this administration makes internationally is a disaster. It seems the West Wingers have that remarkable combination of extreme arrogance and tremendous incompetence. That is dangerous and could lead takes us down some very dark roads, including the one infested with mushrooms.

      • Wildcard1Texas

        I would not be so quick to jump on the bandwagon yet, as the US gov is definitely guilty of meddling however we must be cautious of Putin (although it is my hope he is for real and aginst the banster gangsters)

        • http://www.focusonrecovery.net 2012 Consciousness Shift Resou

          Greetings Wildcard.. It is possible Putin is working to protect us from those bankster gangsters. Even though Putin is controlled by same force(s), he may have gotten to the point in his life where he has had enough and is now fighting back against the banking cartel. If so, he will end up like JFK.

        • jonny blayze

          “Meddling” ? Shut the hell up. Since WWII the world was crying and begging america save me,america help me,america police the world because you have the power. But now its mind your own business america……that is until your sovereignty is threatend again then its america why aren’t you helping.

      • http://www.focusonrecovery.net 2012 Consciousness Shift Resou

        Greetings Drud, “We”? As I said to Goldminner.. “its only “our” government if we had/have a say. When was the last time a politician asked for your advise? Get my point? Is not our government. There is so much more to consider; Google The Loosh Effect. It may help explain to you why planet earth is as it is.”

      • Joe_HTH

        LOL! What kind of power do these smaller kids have? Please tell me?

    • English Kev

      don’t feel so bad about your nationality goldminer,us Brits have a huge legacy of pissing people off. I’ve always found Americans articulate,polite,better educated,respectful,remorseful and very interested in foreign culture.
      Sure you have Griswolds,but hey,we are the biggest exporters of human detritus bar none.

    • Gerroz Gsj

      Obama only ever promised change, he spoke very little of what kind of change. During his first campaign I pointed this out to a lot of people.

      Some change is change for the worse.

      -from Norway with love

      • davidnrobyn

        “Some change is change for the worse.”
        I can see you’re not a progressive, Gerroz.

    • GibbyD

      Democracy forces in The Ukraine are pro-west and that is what worried Putin and threatens his plan to rebuild an old Soviet Union style Russia . We need to quickly institute the Fair Tax . This will bring back manufacturing and jobs to The United States . We need to make our own stuff so we can start to dump Chinese imports . Unions have to get out of the way or we are doomed to lose our prosperity and our freedom . Mike Huckabee was the only one with a chance to win big who is also someone who is in favor of the Fair Tax.

      • Priszilla

        I wouldn’t go so far as to call those who show swastikas in the Ukraine “democracy forces”.

        The Unions have to get out of the way? What if they don’t?

        What if uinions demand an increase of wages and reduction of profit?

        • GibbyD

          “democracy forces” in the Ukraine have some idiots in their country just as we do in ours . They will realize as they continue to align with The West that respect for freedom will have to include all peoples and religions. This is unlike Russia where the Eastern Orthodox have control over everything with the blessing of Putin . Concerning Unions , The Pendulum swings back and forth and I believe that it has swung too far toward unreasonable demands by them in the face of a horrible economy and business just being able to stay above water . If they don’t compromise , we are doomed . We will become a socialist 3rd rate power and then we will lose our freedom . Huckabee and The Fair Tax could make a big difference toward a recovery but the powers that be won’t let that happen unless enough people get sick of this and become angry enough to vote in the Bull Dog conservative patriots who will do the job to save our Nation .

          • Priszilla

            If people would have decent wages, then they’d be able to pay their mortgages, and not be troubled by a raise of fuel prices to the extent to cause a financial crisis when they suddenly can’t repay their debts?

            No, to get out of this crisis, the minimum wage everywhere must be increased. Companies won’t let the CEO clean the toilet because they can’t afford cleaners anymore.

            And those companies won’t go bankrupt when their boss loses 50 dollar of his 5 million income, because his cleaners will each get 50 cent more.

          • GibbyD

            It is a starting wage and very few ever stay on it for long . To increase a starting wage for mostly young people , would necessitate the elimination of that job and many other jobs to pay for it . Companies would also feel forced to increase the cost of those goods and services . Raising the so called minimum wage is a lose lose situation for everybody . Not everyone is meant to own a home , I don’t.

          • Priszilla

            Maybe it was meant to be a starting wage, but in UK for example it is a regular wage for cleaners and carers who stay on the job for years.

            Many people don’t get trained on the job, and they don’t earn enough to pay for training by themselves, so they never can leave that job and take a better qualified job.

            In the meantime, profits rise.

            In the end, it is those on lower income that buy stuff and buy more stuff if they get paid more.

            Not those who get more profit. Even if their income rises by a million dollar a year, they won’t buy a million more breads.

          • GibbyD

            In the USA , it is a starting wager and quickly goes up as you prove yourself to be a good and dependable employee. It is better to start a job at a low pay rate than not to have a job at all when the companies eliminate positions to stay profitable . Not all businesses are making a huge profit and in fact some are just barely hanging on .

          • Priszilla

            If it is just a starting wage, then you can start at a higher minimum wage and then go up not quickly but slowly.

            If the minimum wage is on the other hand the standard wage for subcontractors, …

          • GibbyD

            raising the minimum wage would eliminate jobs and put some small businesses , out of business . The Starting minimum wage should be left as it is but the overall economy needs to be boosted by The Fair Tax.

          • Priszilla

            If the minimum wage is only the starting wage, then the minimum wage could be raised and the maximum salary lowered, and the busijess would still pay the same total on wages and salaries.

            If the minimum wage is the standard wage for whole industries especially for cleaning, cooking, nursing, caring, then all those cleaners will be fired and the cooks and nurses, and undertakers, ajd the whole country is drowning in muck.

          • GibbyD

            Salaries are not the only costs for business and industry . All those jobs you mentioned DO NOT hold to the current minimum wage . In each and every case some may start at the current minimum but they quickly jump to a moire competitive wage. They have to start low and quickly go up because there is a battle for the best and most reliable workers . If a company does not pay enough , he or she knows that they might lose that good worker to someone else willing to pay them more. This effects the bottom line so that it is not cost efficient for companies to keep wages at minimum . The current minimum wage is the starting place for an unskilled worker to be able to start a job , learn on the job and then be awarded a higher pay once he or she has acquired the needed ability for that job. This makes that employee more valuable and worth the higher investment .

          • Priszilla

            Actually, in UK carers start on zero hour contracts. They get a “job”, but they are told in the contract they are not guaranteed any work. And they are only paid for the work they do, and are not allowed to take up any other “work”, so tpo be available at all time.

            Then, they possibly advance to guaranteed 44h per week, where they stay until they leave or die.

            At least, minimum wage is increased every year by 10 pence or so.

      • tati

        If usa will be out of money, americans wouldn’t have anlything to eat, so in Russia will be capitalism and in usa comunism ))))

        • GibbyD

          NO , it is not food we would be without but rather maybe a second care or a second home . The United States is the bread basket of the world. We feed a large portion of the world . America may need to be on a diet but the rest of the world depends on our grain and livestock , fruits and vegetables . If the United States is hurt economically because of Russia , the whole world would suffer and many parts go hungry . We though would always have food . Russia is now moving back to the old style soviet union and wikl have the same problems they had back then.

    • http://www.focusonrecovery.net 2012 Consciousness Shift Resou

      Greetings Goldminer, its only “our” government if we had/have a say. When was the last time a politician asked for your advise? Get my point? Is not our government. There is so much more to consider; Google The Loosh Effect. It may help explain to you why planet earth is as it is.

    • tati

      I just read some commens of americans and I understood that if not the politisions, the people of America and the people of Russia will be good friends!
      Not the last is the role of the banks in international conflicts… and VERY rich people who want to be more and more richer…
      I just hope that one day we (Russia, Usa) will have governtments not consisted of baboons who want only dominate (making wars and collecting money) but of people who just want to live in peace!
      Ps sorry for my English…

      • Joe_HTH

        Russia does not want to be friends with the US. Never has.

        • Jaroslav Belicka

          I would say that you are 180 degrees wrong Joe. It is USA not wanting to be friends with Russia.

    • paul

      same in Romania, our government is against us since forever :) so dont worry you are not alone :)

    • Joe_HTH

      You’re not fit to call yourself an American. What the hell do you want Obama to do? Sit by and do nothing while Russia annexes Crimea? Or perhaps you would rather him send Americans to die over a country we have very little to do with.

      Just what the hell do you want man?

  • Tatiana Covington

    “absolutely disastrous” = nuclear holocaust: Ragnarok.

  • JustWatching

    What the U.S. does have is the strongest military on the entire planet — This is immaterial. The American military is set up to win battles, not wars. It does best against weak, little countries. Grenada was a prime example. When they moved up to an opponent like Afghanistan, it got a little dicey.

    During the cold war, Washington knew that the only chance to stop the soviet military in Europe was the use of nuclear weapons and they would have to use them first. While Cheney did express his willingness to use nukes to intervene in Iran (Just little ones to break up the buried sites), there are few people in this administration that are that stupid.

    And not even Obama wants to join Napoleon and Hitler on the list as someone dumb enough to invade Russia.

  • mikeymike61

    Hillary needs ta go to staples and get two reset buttons

    • k

      She wont be able to do much too.

    • Jersey_Prophet

      Staples sells EASY buttons.

      The hag needs to get her mouth (and stomach) stapled!

  • Jane Bobsky

    Clearly the KGB guy is much better than the clueless community organizer/theorist. The US allies are rethinking their reliance on the US for any potential help. This includes Israel for obvious reasons and Canada re the Keystone farce. The US is being transformed as OB stated. Into a bystander in the world.

    • Gay Veteran

      “…The US is being transformed as OB stated. Into a bystander in the world.”

      better a bystander than a threat to peace everywhere

  • GSOB

    I think everyone is over reacting.

    Putin sent in troops to protect others.
    Now the attention is on him and the troops..
    not a shot fired,
    no one killed,
    and the Russian troops, most of them, look like bored kids standing around, waiting for the big maybe to come down.

    Everyone is scared of Russia. No need to jump to conclusions though.

    I do think Putin has an ego and he is being very careful. I don’t think he’ll want to come down the negative side of history.

    The POTUS says he already has.

    • Mondobeyondo

      Putin sent in his troops to protect Russian interests in Ukraine.
      To protect Russian interests in Ukraine.
      To protect Russian interests in Ukraine.
      Let that sink in for a moment or three.

      • Kirill

        What wrong with that? People of Crimea quite happy about this and not a shot fired, no one killed . I guess they have same interests. :)

      • tom

        Sounds like history repeating itself…Does anyone remember Hitler and the Sudetenland?

      • TooLittleTooLate

        Exactly. We should have never been there, “spreading democracy”, in the first place.

        The u.s. has done this before… perfect example would be afghanistan where we put in a corrupt central govt. that nobody there will ever follow and we expect this to succeed?!?!

        The people there are used to following their tribe leader… you know, the one across the street from them… the family member… not some central govt. figure in a place they’ve never been.

        ussr has been dragged into this…. we blinked but, we will go after their economy now?!?!?!? one much stronger than ours?!?!?! ( not bigger but stronger )

        The stupidity is so thick you can cut it with a knife.

      • JustanOguy

        Crimea and Eastern Ukraine are primarily Russian and support Russia. The vast majority of people in Crimea want the Russians there.

        Let that sink in.

        Western Ukraine wants to be Eurozoned.. Eastern Ukraine wants to be EuroAsian Zoned (Russian and China).

        Let that Sink In.

        Europe wants the Natural Gas.

        Let that Sink In.

        Europe is technically broke and in debt up to their ears.

        Let that sink in.

        Get back to us when you understand the big picture of what is really going on….

  • Edwin Calais

    Put Obama & Putin in a cage and let them fight to the death. Whoever wins the cage-match, has won the war. End of story. (I don’t think Big Ears will be victorious, unless all those years he spent in “the hood” being Trayvon surprise me.)

  • Malcolm Reynolds

    LMAO! Doesn’t that BS just put a happy smiley on it.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  • JailBanksters

    Syria worked out really bad Kerry and the Obomba Dictatorship. This Ukraine thing is going to be the nail in Obomba’s Political Coffin. Can’t wait to read the FOI requests on this one, but more likely everything will be sealed for eternity due to National Security.

  • 2Gary2

    Why should we care about Ukraine? The USA has one of the highest child poverty rates for any first world country. When we have zero childhood poverty I will worry about Ukraine.

    • xander cross

      Exactly.

    • Drud

      The reason is because our government (no matter their silly letter) has interests that lay far outside the best interests of its citizenry, and to protect itself, our government will start become embroiled in WWIII. Then far more children will live in poverty. As so often happens, I have no issue with the morality of your vies, quite the contrary, but with the impracticality of them.

  • nevelle chamberlin jr

    china settin up for their own land grab, they’ll need russian cover when they move on okinawa,like hitler and stalin before ww2,end result of western weakness

  • animalaura

    MANY MANY Americans think highly of Russia and Putin. We understand he must DEFEND Russian interests, ports, military bases, and the Russian people living in Ukraine and Crimea. We understand that Putin LOVES Russia dearly.
    It would be nice if our own president felt the same way about the U.S.. If I could — I would move to Russia for a few years. It would be nice to live in a free country like Russia rather than a Police State like what is in the U.S. now.

    • Eric Quintero

      I wouldnt go so far as to calling the Russians “free.” Putin has very good marketing behind him. He’s a thug. A Respectable thug, but a thug nonetheless.

      No one is allowed to question Putin and people who speak out are usually thrown in prison. Putin is still a dictator – just a more likeable one.

      • Kirill

        I wouldnt go so far as to calling Putin is a dictator. Yes he has a lot of power by constitution but more than 70% russian people support him so it is not a dictatorship.
        BTW dictatorship could be a good thing if dictator do the best in order to protect interests of people and the state.

        • Eric Quintero

          That is true. It does appear that he is benevolent in his nature.

        • Jersey_Prophet

          A dictator is not measured by how many support him. A dictator is measured by his treatment of those who DON’T support him!

          • Drud

            Well said. Voltaire put it this way: “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”

          • davidnrobyn

            And in the US, it’s the PC establishment.

          • Kirill

            A good point and I agree with you. But where is line that divides dictator from non dictator?And where is Putin? I still dont see him as a dictator. He doesn’t throw dissenters into prisons doesn’t suppress freedom. He is strong politician and leader and this is a good. So I would rather use word monarch to describe him.

        • Drud

          The problem with that idea is that one can only become a dictator through ruthlessness, a trait that is in direct opposition the benevolence you suggest could be a good thing.

      • FirstGarden

        I must disagree. Russia has changed. The difference today is that Russia doesn’t throw their dissenters into prisons anymore. They have them walk in.

        • Jersey_Prophet

          Untrue! Read my answer to Kirill just above.

          • FirstGarden

            I think you took me too literally here. :-)

  • Mondobeyondo

    Sorry Cinderella – there’s no happy ending to this.

    Russia has always wanted the Crimea. Now they (apparently) have it, again. Nope, it’s not the first time they’ve had the Crimea. Ukraine will have to fight hard to get the Crimea back. if it wants it back. And that means… yep, you got it… WAR.

    America, and the West for that matter, will do what it always does – whatever is in their best interests. Same with Vladimir Putin. He’ll do whatever is in the best interest of Russia. So far, mission accomplished.

    • Gay Veteran

      you mean there’s no happy ending to a situation the U.S. created.

  • Mondobeyondo

    Putin has all the odds in his favor, and he knows it.

    The U.S. has the power to fight back any Russian invasion.
    But we will not use it, for several reasons. (Leviticus 26:19, anyone?) Sorry, Obama fans, but American leadership is weak. The ONLY reason why we are still a superpower, is because of our vast nuclear arsenal. Obama is a leader in name only. He is no Churchill, or Roosevelt, or Kennedy. He isn’t even a Reagan. Right now, we need leadership in the White House. We do not have it.

    Europe will sit on the sidelines – they do not want to get involved. East Asia? Not their problem. They are staying out of it. Won’t touch this conflict with a 10 meter pole.

    What’s going to happen next? Your guess is as good as mine.

    • Ernest Prayer

      Yes,I’ll have a go. Lev26:19? Are you in some way applying this verse to USA? The verses are discussing the consequences of disobeying the law of Moses upon ancient Israel,who entered a covenant with god at Sinai. It has nothing to do with the USA. The USA is not in a covenant with god to become his special representatives as Israel were. The Stars and Stripes do not fly behind gods throne. America like many other countries are merely reaping what they have sown. 1john5:19 says ‘the WHOLE WORLD is controlled by the devil’ and yes,that includes the good old u.s of a. too

      • Wildcard1Texas

        This is the no 1 problem we have here in the US. That refuse that is in Palestine is not I repeat not the Israel of the bible. Since 1948 we have been supporting this bunch and since then we have been CURSED. The evangelicals flock to flop houses that are 501c tax exempt whore churches i.e. wolves in sheep’s clothing. this group of devils that you worship own Hollywood,media,porn industry,the banks, Aipac,and heavily infiltrated in the school system universities, courts etc. they are heavily represented in DC etc. Look at the background of all the questionable orgs and there you go wake up get a good bible start with GEN1:1 throw out your commentaries and learn for a change

        • Ernest Prayer

          Indeed. Although Israel were a chosen people back in the O.T. era,I do not believe that they remain so. Cast off by god due to their rejection of messiah,the chosen nation today I believe to be the true Christian congregation,made up of people from all nations. True Israelites of the heart,and not of the flesh.

          • Wildcard1Texas

            Agreed it is my belief that this new doctrine of about 100 years or so is a critical reason of why we as a country are in the mess we are in scripture is taken out of context whole doctrines taught completely ignoring the biblical rules of interpretation two or three or more confirming doctrine worse yet doctrines ignoring Israel will not return until Christ returns Ezek 37

          • GSOB

            Yes Ernest prayer.
            Amen.
            They were a chosen people group, but not everyone within that group were circumcised in heart by the Spirit.

            We Gentiles, mostly,.. are being grafted in now with some of the Jews, but I think there will be more Jews that receive the gift of repentance and faith in Jesus Christ before he returns.

            The Lord is building his Church now through the foolishness of preaching of the Gospel and eventually
            we believers will overcome once and for all.

    • Gay Veteran

      and now the thread will be taken over by bible thumpers

      • bible thumpers

        I am here to take over….

        • Gay Veteran

          you’re late

      • veteranforpeace

        If I was in your position, I would dislike the Holy Scripture too. The book condemns you. And, because you’re so arrogant & hard-hearted, your future is as black as can be.

        The main difference between you and others is that they know they are sinful apart from God. You don’t know.

        But the worst part is not that you don’t know. The worst part is that you really don’t give a rip.

        And that’s your downfall.

        Repent of your evil and give your heart to God.

        • Gay Veteran

          perhaps you need to repent of your feelings of moral superiority.
          and wouldn’t you really be more comfortable in a country more sympathetic to your views? like Saudi Arabia

  • Mondobeyondo

    For those still wondering..
    No. I do not think a nuclear holocaust is in our immediate future. This is just a preview of the coming attractions. Hope your popcorn is still warm.

    But it’s bad enough right now.

  • http://www.ThePowerElite.com/ ThePowerElite

    ▲ PERMANENT WAR ECONOMY ▲

    • Gamble

      A permanent wartime economy ever since World War II.

  • Roger Smith

    The U.S. isn’t going to do squat in this conflict. Can you imagine trying to fight a battle with Russia in the Black Sea? In their wildest dreams, Russian admirals couldn’t come up with a better “kill box” than the Black Sea. Any ships that go in there, It would be like checking into the roach motel. They check in at the Bosporus but they don’t check out.
    Michael has already spelled out the barrel we are over with Russia because of the debt. In addition, any conflict between two major powers and we’ll see oil prices go to the stratosphere. That only helps Russia. Oh and they also make bank producing weapons. So any hostilities would ring like a giant cash register in the ears of Putin.

    • Eric Quintero

      It doesnt help that we just closed down the last ammo producing shop in the United States. All ammo will be imported now. Most of our 5.56 and 7.62 will have to come from Russia… oh wait.

    • Drud

      Yes, we have very few good options, and if any “economic sanctions” we try end up in collapse of the dollar, our government is likely to respond like the spoiled child it is: WWIII.

  • chilller

    The US operates just like the neighborhood bully…until someone stands up to them and they wet their panties.
    With Russia and China being the two biggest players in the BRICS nations, they are setting up a new gold based Development Bank. Being a threat to the petro-dollar, look for more financial warring between the value of the dollar and price of gold. The US manipulates gold price while China and Russia can smash dollar value at will.

  • Bruce

    This situation DOES have the potential to end up as a global war. To think that at ANY moment we could be thrown into economic collapse or/and world war 3 is unnerving. Is it likely? NO! however, the possibility IS THERE!

  • XSANDIEGOCA

    Debtor Nations are in no position to dictate terms to anyone.

    • TooLittleTooLate

      I agree with the premise but, we spend more than the rest of the entire world on weapons.

      What we have been doing here is poking a bear with a stick though. We clearly have put people in positions of power that are destructive to our way of life while at the same time so inept that it’s almost unbelievable.

      We have our hands all over toppling the old govt…. a government that is pro-ussr and of vital interest to the ussr…. they’re going to react. From their point of view, they have been dragged into this… a very large percentage of the population over there want to be part of the ussr.

      We have an obligation to protect based on a treaty we signed…. which we will not abide by…. and at the same time, we threaten the ussr with economic warfare…..

      Once again, we have gone in to reshape the world somewhere that has no vital interest to the u.s. and look at the situation we’re currently in…. If the ussr starts fighting back economically, this could get out of control very quickly.

      I hate to say it but, we deserve it. We have become the bully of the world and while I think I’d like to see a better govt. installed there, it’s none of our business and of no vital interest to the u.s…. in fact, it’s in our “vital” interest to back off and take our nose out of where it never belonged in the first place.

      • Rob W

        Well said.

      • XSANDIEGOCA

        D’accords. Excellent reply. Now, what we need here is some Regime Change of our own. Then, we need to rebuild our country. This will not happen overnight. Finally, we must hope the next Regime will choose our future battles very, very carefully. The 911 Wars are a bust! We are coming to the end of a 50 year cycle of Paying any Price and Bearing any Burden! Well, we did but the party is over and the bill has arrived in the mailbox.

  • Jus’my’2’cents

    IDIOTS running America into the dirt!!!

  • Jus’my’2’cents

    Hey! What would the Banksters do if, say the U.S. 6th Fleet Defected?!

  • Rafael Alvernaz

    Wake up people! Putin is KGB/Communist, they’re planning this for a long time now, and they’re sticking to the plan. Please read Jeffrey Nyquist website. Everything is there. Of course Russia is not the only power that want to control the world, you have NWO people pulling the strings, however, someone with a sane mind would prefer Russia/China hegemony? You see, Russia is putting the western nations in check, WW3 is upon us.

  • Bubba Johnson

    The Big Zero will do nothing but talk. Amerika no longer leads the world in much of anything now.

    • Rob W

      Why isn’t it a good thing that we won’t have to go to war for the bankers? When Russia invaded Hungary, Ike didn’t do much either…

      • Bubba Johnson

        I remember a guy forcing cement walls to fall, without a shot fired.

  • TooLittleTooLate

    So, let me see if I have this right…. Our government assisted a coup that would be the equivalent of russia toppling canada ( if canada had ever been a part of the U.S. and many canadians wanted to be part of the U.S. ) and, then russia reacts to this. Seems to me that russia ( ussr ) has vital national security interests there. That will trump anything we can do to them to “punish” them….. To make the situation much worse, we have signed a treaty to defend them against the USSR invading…. and, we’re going to break that treaty but, we of all people, are going to threaten them with economic sanctions?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?

    You seriously can’t make this stuff up. If I were our advisary (sp?), I’d wait for the U.S. to announce it’s intent to damage my economy then, I’d immediately dump 20% of my U.S. treasuries…. Then announce that I was going to dump the rest if they didn’t back off.

    • Drud

      You’re right, you can’t make this stuff up. This level of hubris, corruption and incompetence would be impossible to believe if it were fiction; it is ALMOST impossible to believe when it is clearly the truth.

  • Rob W

    We’ll find it about as difficult to ignore the treaty as Chamberlain did the treaty protecting Poland in 1939.

    • Gay Veteran

      Godwin’s Law

  • Kent Harris

    I know I keep saying this but the Isaiah 9 prophecy is being fulfilled. Russia and China are now going to partner otogether and will destroy the US. God spoke to this nation and said His hand is us and He said we would not at.return to Him no matter what.

    • Rob W

      Good grief. The sky is falling (again)!

      • Kent Harris

        May I just say one thing in regards to the prophecy and that is that after 9/11 Isaiah 9:10 was spoken not once but three times by Daschle, Edwards, and Obama. The rest of the chapter deals with judgement and our refusal to turn back to God. One can decide rather or not to believe it or not.

        • GSOB

          “our refusal to turn back to God.”

          It is impossible to turn back to God when one has never truly been called by God in the first place.

          Don’t be so naive as to think that there was a time in America’s history that everyone was saved…. or that America had a status once like the Jewish people.

    • GSOB

      This has nothing to do with with that portion of Scripture…

  • Dave Jenkins

    “it also means that Russia and China are starting to understand how much economic leverage that they really have.”

    I think they already had a good idea about how much leverage they have for at least the past 5 years or more…

    • FirstGarden

      The borrower is the lender’s slave.

  • Karen

    Putin ordered his ministry and troops back to Russia, because NATO and the US along with the EU have threatened to use nuclear weapons. Their going to bomb shelters that Putin had ordered to be completed by 2012, where are the American people to go, no government here has had any made for their citizens. The government has shelters for them but the rest of us are own are own.

    • GSOB

      So you want the government to be further empowered so as to take care of you during bombings.

  • toray99

    Don’t you think it’s funny , how the USA wants Russia to respect the Ukraine’s border ? How about , the US respecting their own border , with Mexico.

  • FirstGarden

    If there’s anything we *don’t* have to worry about, it’s Comrade Obama deciding to get the U.S. military involved in Ukraine.
    Pass the vodka.

    • Rob W

      Obama is a fascist. Marxists and fascists hate each other.

      • FirstGarden

        Well, their being bedfellows is not unheard of. Russia and Germany had a treaty for a time, albeit short-lived. You may be right, but ultimately, I believe they are taking orders from the same boss.

        • Rob W

          Same boss = banksters?

          • FirstGarden

            Actually a boss who presides in another dimension, if you will.

  • underaged

    Does this blogger ever have ‘good’ news for the US? So a bunch of European aristocrats lose their summer beach homes in the Crimea to a few Russian war lords – big deal!

  • Sam Fosk

    Hey, why are the stock markets rising and rising?

    Doesn’t look like a crash, does it?

    You shouldn’t be overly concerned, everything is well.

  • Guest

    Dictator Putin must be the moderator for this blog because any post that disputes the premise of the article appears to get deleted – how democratic.

    • Sam Fosk

      Don’t be silly.

      Where were you when the Weapons of Mass Destruction lies were reported in the US media?

      When Bush lied his way into war?

      Where were you?

  • DJohn1

    MYOB. That is what we need to do concerning the Ukraine.
    There are a lot of crazy people out there.
    I am all for allowing the persecuted people to re-settle here if the conquerors are willing to let them.
    Why would they settle here? This country is set up to make sure no one makes money and keeps it beyond a few savings for retirement. The Medicaid situation is that you lose everything (when not if) you ever get sick. Essentially we have two classes. You are either rich or poor. I define “rich” as having a billion or more dollars. Most of the rest of us will never see that kind of money. Most of us live check to check after retirement. It wasn’t always that way.
    In all fairness, the Ukraine is probably no different than it is here. The difference is a socialist nation with health care from the cradle to the grave.
    We, on the other hand, have none of this. What we do have is a government willing to give 300 million to people that hate us in the world(like most of the Middle East). Even after one of our diplomats was killed in Libya.
    If all that money was given back to the American People, all kinds of good things might happen.
    I say we should stay out of it and let the cards fall where they may.

    • Drud

      Agreed, but who is the “Your” in MYOB. Obviously, we citizens have no interest in getting into a war in the Ukraine, and certainly no interest in becoming involved in a Third World War. However, the people running the show my just have those EXACT interests in mind. After all, for bankers and CEO’s of huge MIC firms, war is the best business strategy.

  • Phil

    This idiot will get us into WWIII. Just like Wilson and F.D.R.
    With a gutted Military also just like the last two Progressive usurpers did.

  • DJohn1

    I have a parable based on national animals.
    The Russia is the Bear.
    The China is a Dragon.
    The USA is the Eagle.
    The Ukraine is the wily coyote.
    One day the dragon was starving to death. There was not enough food for its tremendous needs.
    The Dragon came to the Eagle and asked: Feed me for I am starving, and I will give you some of my treasures.
    So the Eagle flew back to its nest and found much food for the Dragon to eat. Eventually most of the food was gone and the treasure turned out to be defective goods cheaply made and put together. The Eagle continued to feed the Dragon.
    The Bear came along. It too wanted in on the food that no longer kept the Dragon fed. So the Dragon and the Bear became friends and shared the food from the Eagle. And all the other animals wanted their share of the food as well.
    But the Bear and the Dragon were most powerful. So they determined who got fed what.
    The coyote has been a pet of the Bear for many years. It unsuccessfully went out from the Bear to feed itself.
    So the coyote asked the Bear to rejoin his house.
    The Eagle protested that there was not enough to go around.
    So the Bear and the Dragon joined together against the Eagle.
    The Eagle loved the treasure given it. But when they joined against him, the Eagle got up and flew away.
    Then the Dragon and the Bear had no more food to give and started arguing over who would get what.
    The Coyote stole the food from both the Bear and the Dragon and accused each of stealing from the other.
    The morale of this story is not to offend the one that is feeding you.

    • FirstGarden

      Germany got Hungary and ate fried Turkey in Greece on Red China.

  • krinks

    Now that the Russians see that the west are paper tigers, they are free to do as they see fit. Like get talked into reluctantly invading Israel to take a spoil. Interesting isn’t it how China now has their back. This all sounds familiar.

  • JustanOguy

    Siding with Russia on this one. Crimea is majority Russian along with Eastern Ukraine.. half of the people in Ukraine want to be partners with Russia, the Western Half want to be Eurozoned.

    The EU obviously wants the Natural Gas and has called on Big Brother to get involved to waste more money..

    Best solution is split the country into two parts at the Dnieper River since East of the River is primarily Russian and West of this river supports Europe.

    Border country problem where half of the people want one thing and the other half want the other thing = U.S. is facing a losing battle either way and it’s best to stop playing World Police on our dime.

    • GSOB

      Not bad.

  • GrandDaddy

    Never forget this…

    “Mr. Dodd, all of us here at the policy-making level have had experience, either in the O.S.S. or the European Economic Administration, with directives from the White House. We operate under those directives here. Would you like to know what those directives are? [Dodd, replying in the affirmative, Gaither continued: ] The substance of them is that we shall use our grant-making power so to alter our life in the United States that we can be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union.” (H. Rowan Gaither, as reported by Norman Dodd, the director of the Congressionally established Reece Committee to investigate subersive activities of the tax exempt foundations. 1953.)

  • Yasha7

    The US is “barking”? Whining is much more like it.

  • FirstGarden

    This just out today. See the following article excerpts – Ominous stuff!..

    Moscow (AFP) – Russia could reduce to zero its economic dependency on the United States if Washington agreed on sanctions against Moscow over Ukraine, a Kremlin aide
    said on Tuesday, warning that the American financial system faced a “crash” if this happened.

    He told the RIA Novosti news agency Russia could stop using dollars for international transactions and create its own payment system using its “wonderful trade and economic relations with our partners in the East and South.”

    Russian firms and banks would also not return loans from American financial institutions, he said.

    “An attempt to announce sanctions would end in a crash for the financial system of the United States, which would cause the end of the domination of the United States in the global financial system,” he added.

    He said that economic sanctions imposed by the European Union would be a “catastrophe” for Europe, saying that Russia could halt gas supplies “which would be beneficial for the Americans” and give the Russian economy a useful “impulse”.

  • Gay Veteran

    “…What the U.S. does have is the strongest military on the entire planet….”

    and yet we were driven from Iraq and will be driven from Afghanistan

    • Warhead

      Yeah,but we wouldn’t be driven from those countries if we had just gotten on with it and thrown a few mushrooms in their direction. We need to push a few red buttons and clear out the nest. Then we can settle down for a nice hamburger and some tv.

      • Gay Veteran

        tough guy. why don’t you head down to your local Army recruiting center and join up?

  • Timothy Williams

    Does the US really have the strongest military on the planet?

    I understand it has the most expensive, but that is not the same.

  • davidnrobyn

    “very bad news for the United States”
    I’m wondering which United States the writer is referring to–the one within the Beltway or the rest of us? The Govt has worked very hard for a very long time to identify itself in the public mind with the country itself. It appears they’ve succeeded. I say: To not support the current regime is not necessarily to be unpatriotic. And the current predicament Washington finds itself in could ultimately be for the good of the country.

  • Quagmeyer

    WW 3 is very near.

  • GibbyD

    arm the Ukraine and make it cost Russia allot more than they thought they would have to pay . Help the freedom and democracy forces in The Ukraine . Don’t allow Putin to rebuild the old Soviet Union .

  • tacoma

    I love to see Obama impose all kinds of sanctions on Russia. I love to see US fleet entering the Black Sea to confront the Russian navy. I love to see the CIA meddling in Ukraine to overthrow its democratically elected president exposed.

    Then we will be able to see Russia’s response. See China’s response. See EU and others in the world respond.

    It won’t be pretty for the arrogant US government politicians – for Obama and the neocons in Congress. Their grand delusion of American hegemony will be put to the test. Once they found out their ships blown up in the Black Sea, the US petro dollar replaced and dumped, and there’s pity little friends left on their side, their minds of empire and grandeur will implode.

    This is very good for USA and the American people. They can proceed to take back their country. And let Ukraine and the rest of the world run their own business.

  • Jasmine White

    That is what I think as well. People keep posting articles on the net that China holds our debt and what would happen if they dumped it. I will tell you, we will stop buying all that crap they produce and their economy will fall a lot faster than ours.

  • http://www.FounderChurch.Blogspot.Com/ “FounderChurch”

    TWO SUPERPOWERS ONLY: US & CHINA-RUSSIA. All 200 other nations are constantly in play and can swing either way without warning. The US is now on very shaky ground, especially with wimpy limp wristed anti-American Democrats running the country. Expect a long series of loses from now on. “FounderChurch”

  • Brian Lane

    The key to this whole “the sky is falling” attitude frequently seen here is this…. “Considering how much money we owe them,” (taken from the article). It is not in either China or Russia’s interests to dump the dollar as it has been said in this article. If they were to over night dump everything, then it would drop the value of their “investment” to nothing. A more logical approach is already happening in China where the investment is being sold off in small sales to reduce the risk. It could take years to get rid of all of that exposure.

  • Joe_HTH

    “Considering how much money we owe them, and considering the fact that we desperately need them to continue to use the petrodollar, we stand to lose far more than they do.”

    ROTFLMAO! We don’t owe China anywhere near what idiots like you think we owe. They own less than 10% of our debt. As for China using something other than the petrodollar, what the hell else are they going to use? The Euro? That would be a laugh riot. The ruble? An even bigger laugh. They aren’t going to use anything else, despite any empty threats. Besides, China relies on the US far more than they rely on Russia.

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