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Silver At Less Than 19 Dollars An Ounce? Are You Kidding Me???

SilverThe day that silver traders have been waiting for has arrived.  On Wednesday, the price of silver dropped another 5 percent.  As I write this, it is sitting at $18.55 an ounce.  On Wednesday it hit a low that had not been seen in three years.  Overall, the price of silver has declined by 34 percent this quarter.  That is the largest quarterly move in the price of silver in more than 30 years.  So what does all of this mean?  It means that we are looking at a historic buying opportunity for those that are interested in silver.  Yes, gold is undervalued right now as well, but it is absolutely ridiculous how low the price of silver is.  At the moment, the price of gold is about 66 times higher than the price of silver is.  But they come out of the ground at about a 9 to 1 ratio, and unlike gold, silver is used up in thousands of common consumer products.  Those that want to invest in silver should be shouting for joy that prices have fallen this low.  If you have been waiting and waiting and waiting to "load the boat", your moment has arrived.

In my previous articles, I have warned over and over again that we would see wild swings in the prices of gold and silver.  For example, I wrote the following back in April...

As I mentioned above, gold and silver are going to experience wild fluctuations over the next few years.  When the next stock market crash comes, gold and silver are probably going to go even lower than they are today for a short time.  But in the long run gold and silver are going to soar to unprecedented heights.

Investing in gold and silver is not for the faint of heart.  If you cannot handle the ride, you should sit on the sidelines.  We are entering a period of tremendous financial instability, and holding gold and silver is going to be like riding a roller coaster.  The ups and downs are going to shake a lot of people up, but the rewards are going to be great for those that stick with it the entire time.

Right now, a lot of people that bought silver when it was 25 dollars an ounce or 30 dollars an ounce are probably feeling discouraged.

Don't be.  You will be just fine.  When the price of an ounce of silver hits 100 dollars an ounce you will be very thankful for the silver that you stored away at those prices.

We are moving into a time when we will see more volatility in precious metals prices than we have ever seen before.  That means there will be some tremendous opportunities to make money.  But in order to make money, you have to buy low and sell high.

The current decline in the price of paper silver does not have anything to do with the demand for actual physical silver.  In fact, demand for physical silver is higher than it ever has been before.

For example, sales of silver coins by the U.S. Mint have set a brand new all-time record high during the first half of 2013.

Last year, the U.S. Mint sold 33 million ounces of silver for the entire year.

This year, the U.S. Mint is on pace to sell 50 million ounces of silver for the entire year.

So don't be alarmed that the price of silver is falling.

Instead, be very, very thankful.

Hopefully it will go even lower.

And you know what?  There is a decent possibility that the price of silver may go down a bit more.  This will especially be true during the initial stages of the next financial panic.

When the price of silver does dip, it is a perfect opportunity to load the boat, because even many mainstream analysts are projecting that the price of silver is headed into the stratosphere over the long-term.  For example, the following is what Citi analyst Tom Fitzpatrick told King World News the other day...

Again, if you look at silver going back to the 2008 correction, we got down to levels below $9, then we saw the silver price multiply by a factor of over 5 times. So assuming this marks a point near the end of the correction in silver, then our bias would be one that would take silver not only to new all-time highs, but we would look for a target as high as $100 for silver

A chart illustrating the projections that Fitzpatrick is making can be found right here.

There are so many reasons to own silver (even as opposed to owning gold).  The following is an excerpt from a recent article about silver that really caught my attention...

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7. Silver is way below its nominal record price of $50 in 1980.  It is even further below the government inflation adjusted level of $135.  And if you use REAL inflation adjusted numbers, like Shadowstats, the REAL 1980 inflation adjusted price of silver would have to be $450!  Silver is a precious and depleting resource and when you look at the price of housing, cars, education, food, energy, taxes, insurance back in the 1980′s, it is insane to think that silver is so cheap on any level.  Especially when the uses of silver have skyrocketed since the 1980’s.  It is now used in technology on a massive scale and is even now said to cure cancer.  Heck, they did not even have Silver Eagle sales back then, or the Silver Bullet Silver Shield for that matter.

8. This time it is going to be much larger!  None of the problems from the 2008 Banking Crisis have been solved.  In fact it is orders of magnitudes worse.   What started out as an institutional  problem, is now a sovereign nation problem.  This collapse will not be a puny multi – billion dollar corporation like AIG disintegrating, it will be the Trillion dollar economies of the nations of the world and the Quadrillion dollar derivative monster markets cracking apart.  There is no financial, political or social safety net left.  We destroyed all of that in 2008 and are on a debt based junkie delusion.

The collapse of currencies will affect every counter-party, debt based asset in the world. Your cash, stocks, bonds, Real Estate, pensions, insurance, all of it.  The collapse of financial contracts will lead to the collapse of all political and social contracts.  The Anger Phase of humanity is coming and only real assets with no counter party risk will be worth anything.  Most commodities have storage or degradation issues leaving only precious metals as a real store of wealth.

9. 1:65 Ratio makes silver the only choice.  The current gold to silver ratio is: 1 ounce of gold is worth 65 ounces of silver.  These come out of the ground at a 1:9 ratio!  That means just to get back to the natural mining ratio, silver would have to out perform gold 600%.  This is regardless what happens to the dollar value of gold.  If gold goes to $13,000 an ounce, silver at a 1:9 ratio would be $1,444 silver.

10. The historical stockpiles of silver are destroyed.  We know implicitly that gold has been treasured and kept secure.  While silver has been used and abused as a cheap, industrial metal like tin.  Since the price of silver has been under attack since the Crime of 1873, silver has been used in such small quantities that it has been destroyed.  The US government in 1950 had 5 billion ounces of silver in its strategic stockpile, now it has ZERO. So if gold and silver come out of the ground at a 1:9 ratio and gold has been treasured and silver stockpiles destroyed, logic would dictate that the end of this silver bull market will find the gold to silver ratio BELOW 1:9 and I think it will come close to a 1:1.  Either way, we are a long way away from those levels which makes silver so exciting right now.

It is the destruction of huge stockpiles like this that explains the decade long supply deficit to the growing demand of silver.  Do not forget that we are only 7 years away from the United States Geological Survey’s prediction that if we continue to consume silver at these rates, silver would be the first metal to become extinct.  When I challenged the USGS on that statement, they said that only a massive revaluation of silver to bring on more production and wiser use of silver would stop the extinction.  I don’t think we will ever run out of silver, but I do believe that the free market will crush this paper manipulation and that anyone holding physical silver on that day will then have a lottery ticket in real value.

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You can read the rest of that excellent article right here.

Do you want some more reasons to own silver?

The following are some excerpts from an excellent article by Mark Thomas...

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The amount of silver consumed annually and bought for investment exceeds currently exceeds total annual mining output and has for years. That gap has been filled by sellers willing to sell from existing inventories and as prices rise. As time passes this will naturally push prices significantly higher until this fundamental imbalance reaches a true equilibrium price where supply is closer to demand.

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Both industrial and investment demand for silver is growing in excess of the annual increase in mining production growth. The available inventory is low and will get even tighter over time. These two factors will lead to a continued tighter supply-demand situation going forward.

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Silver is an industrial metal with over 10,000 commercial applications. Because it is one of the best electrical and thermal conductors, that makes it ideal for electrical uses such as switches, multi-layer ceramic capacitors, conductive adhesives, and contacts. It is used in some brazing and soldering as well. Silver is also used in solar cells, heated automobile wind shields, DVD's and some mirrors.

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Silver is an essential element in the electronic gadgets that are a growing part of our digital age. It is in every cell phone, smart phone, tablet, computer keyboard, solar cells and every radio frequency if ID device (RFID). This makes it an essential element going forward as the world becomes more addicted to gadgets. The growth and rising living standards of people in the emerging economies will drive long-term growth of new customers that will demand more and more electronic gadgets.

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Silver's industrial demand should increase 60% to 666 million ounces per year by 2016 from 487 million ounces in 2010. Current annual mine production is only around 700 million ounces per year growing a few percent annually.

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Of a total of fifty billion ounces of silver that have been mined in history, only two ounces (estimate) or 5% remain in above ground inventories available to be bought and sold. This is due to silver being used up in industrial applications in very small quantities, which makes it unprofitable to recycle at today's prices. A lot of silver is used in minute quantities in industrial products which are used up and discarded without being recycled.

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The total amount of silver available to trade in the physical silver market is only about $70 billion versus the total gold market which now exceeds $4.3 trillion. As you can see from these numbers, the total market size of the silver market is only 1.6% of the size of the entire gold market. This lack of liquidity and use of extreme leverage in its respective futures market produces wild volatility in price fluctuations of silver.

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You can read the rest of his excellent article right here.

Are you starting to get the picture?

Let us hope that the price of silver stays below 20 dollars an ounce for as long as possible, because once this opportunity is gone we will probably never see it again.

It is important to realize where we are in the greater scheme of things.  The world is moving toward another major financial crisis which will usher in a brief period of deflation.  Unlike many others that are talking about the coming economic collapse, I have always maintained that we are going to see deflation first and then the response to the crisis will give us the rip-roaring inflation that so many talk about.  The following is an excerpt from one of my articles where I talk about this...

So cash will not be king for long.  In fact, eventually cash will be trash.  The actions of the U.S. government and the Federal Reserve in response to the coming financial crisis will greatly upset much of the rest of the world and cause the death of the U.S. dollar.

That is why gold, silver and other hard assets are going to be so good to have in the long-term.  In the short-term they will experience wild swings in price, but if you can handle the ride you will be smiling in the end.

During the initial stages of the next major stock market crash, gold and silver will not do very well.  But that is okay.  Dips are buying opportunities.

As the coming economic crisis unfolds, governments and central banks all over the world will desperately attempt to resuscitate the global financial system.  We are going to see money printing and "stimulus packages" on a scale that we have never seen before.  Crazy things will happen with stocks, bonds and currencies.

When the dust finally settles, those that are holding "real money" will be the ones that will be in the best shape.

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  • MichaelfromTheEconomicCollapse

    What does everyone else think the price of silver is going to do?

    Michael

    • Shmeggle Marxist

      40-50 in Q4.

      • Sarah Greenfeld

        I hope so, I have over 50,000 dollars in physical gold

        • Ralfine

          I put my savings into my house and reduced heating costs by 80%, and increased the sale value of the house.
          Gold is just dead weight.

    • RICHARD

      Michael, had to laugh about this blog, when i saw silver drop to below 19 dollars today and stay there I bought some more. I am holding back on Gold to see if it falls any more. I am in this for the long run. Silver might fall some more but it will recover in a big way in the future.

    • No666NoNewWorldorder

      It depends on the mining costs for silver (and gold).

      I assume this $18.00 silver is purposely driven down as real physical silver is hard to get at market value.

    • Ayn Rand

      Due to hyperinflation:
      1000000000000000 dollars.
      LOL

    • markthetruth

      Anything Matter on earth that can’t be reproduced artificially and become rare will be worth prices only time will tell. As Paintings by an artist that dies. Rare = Rich Value no if’s and or buts.

      the end…

    • Syrin

      Michael, I am so certain about what gold and silver are going to do, I bought a gold and silver mine in the Yukon. (we also get palladium and rhodium). Unfortunately, I had to sell off some of the gold I had stockpiled to get the operation going, but it can be easily replaced.

      • MichaelfromTheEconomicCollapse

        Wow that is very cool Syrin. Hopefully that mine will be very fruitful for you. :)

        Michael

      • Graham

        You offering a discount to blog readers and its host?

    • Joe Kleinkamp

      The price of silver will probably drop a little further until the myriad metals funds and ETFs have liquidated enough of their assets to satisfy redemptions. I would view this as a good thing as it could translate into less securitization. Within a few months, certainly within a year, silver prices will begin to stabilize and then resume their climb. Silver prices topped $100/ounce (inflation adjusted) in 1980 and neared $50 in the Spring of 2011. Unlike the stocks or bonds of a corporation that may cease to exist, physical silver is guaranteed to outlive us all. If you own silver it would be a big mistake to sell it now. This is the time to buy.

    • GSOB

      Long run….. >

    • Graham

      When the gross manipulation ends, precious metals will “skyrocket” and underpin the new financial system that is waiting in the wings.

  • Jedi

    It will fall for a little while longer and then skyrocket.
    I am going to buy some silver tomorrow.

    • Ayn Rand

      Me to. I seriously cannot wait. I already have a few scrap silver coins, but this will be a big buy.
      Also: I recently saw a documentary on the Documentary Channel (what else?) and it basically detailed why fiat money is worthless and why everyone should get into precious metals because the world banking system is a Ponzi scheme. The people in the documentary used simple easy to understand language and analogies. It made SO much sense. The information is at peoples fingertips, yet they look at none of it.

  • Optimist

    Considering the stock market will move perpetually higher due to increasing earnings. Gold and silver are for the people who fear life. Glad to see the metals crash. The more positive economic news can not be denied. Optimism. The only realism.

    • No666NoNewWorldorder

      Increased earnings? Maybe for the unionized employees, but not for the millions of non-unionized, laborers in communism.

      Checked Detroit lately?

      • Optimist

        Obviously china found value in detroit. Foreigners see the opportunity. Read Jeremy Siegel book. Stocks for the long run. Yes increasing earnings by publicly traded companies. Every year. Dividends increase yearly. Be open minded.

        • No666NoNewWorldorder

          Is it strange that Enron’s stock crashed in August 2001, resulting in the losses of millions of dollars and retirement savings?

          • Optimist

            Agree. I am all for a diversified investment portfolio of many stocks. Not one or two. The numbers don’t lie. About 10% yearly gains through ups and downs

          • Ayn Rand

            Traditionally all fiat currency systems fail. Our entire economy is a giant Ponzi scheme. Go to the sunshine and lollipops blog you F***ing troll.

          • SandysaysSo

            Why don’t you go back to trolling on the gay sites for your next cheap trick?

          • Ayn Rand

            I am gay? Number one: Not true. I am not happy or ecstatic at the moment. Number Two: are you trying to insult me? it ain’t working. Number Three: I am not a homosexual, but there is nothing wrong with being one.
            Please go learn how to accept others different lifestyles.

          • Gay Veteran

            hey sandy, project much?

        • Syrin

          I URGE you to sink all you have into stocks, bonds and the US dollar. Prove us all wrong. Prove history wrong.

      • Gay Veteran

        unions are weak, wages adjusted for inflation are down, wake up

    • markthetruth

      Not ! BBB can’t even match lower EPS . The stock market is higher because of Bernanke ,
      all bad news no growth, Low Low Volume he saved the 85 billion for this reason knowing he would have to hold the market from collapsing completely stocks are way overvalued. Who the heck is going to need netflex, facebook, priceline, when they can’t even buy food.

      the end…

  • Optimist

    Everyone forgets how long gold languished in the $300 level. Don’t fight capitalism. Nice to see stocks and bonds bounce higher the past 2 days. Fear is no way to live. Michael will continue to pound out negative articles costing you serious money in the long run. You have been warned.

    • No666NoNewWorldorder

      Actually, Liberal-communism is to blame. Under Liberal-socialism there are the ruling class who owns the government class with the working class as equals. The Liberal-Communism portrays humanitarian and equality while forcing their views onto people.

      If there was a free market, gold and silver will not be priced fixed by a few investors who have influence in the government. There was a time in history when gold was confiscated, which is a clear sign of communism.

      • Ayn Rand

        I think it is more akin to fascism, but either way it is totalitarian and evil.

    • Ayn Rand

      Dude, do some research into the Federal Reserve System and the Fractional Reserve Banking System. All fiat currencies have failed, historically. Right now the ENTIRE WORLD is run on fiat currency.

      • GSOB

        The US will be the exception.

        • Ayn Rand

          You ARE being sarcastic right? if so then I laugh with you.

          • GSOB

            yep

    • Gay Veteran

      capitalism? where? not here, the banksters admitted to rigging LIBOR interest rates

    • Yo mama

      You should all listen to this guy, he is one of the few posters here that actually seems to live in the real world. Look around see all those banner ads for silver and gold? How much money have you lost on precious metals this year listening to these doom and gloomers? Scammers. Ok, say the financial system collapses, check the 2008 charts. There will be time to pick up some metals if you want. They will collapse in the short run along with stocks. Pick up a few oz’s in case of a black swan event or unforeseen catastrophe if you want, but stop pissing all your meager pay checks into this crap. Never trust anyone’s advice that is also selling crap to you. Trust me Michael doesn’t have a P.M. stash. If he does he’s just as dumb as all you sheep. I dumped all of mine on April 1st this year. Read other sources. King world news is the worst possible source possible. Anything they say, do the exact opposite

  • Optimist

    Gold under $750 and silver $10. For a long time.

    • No666NoNewWorldorder

      That is impossible since the mining costs for gold is around $900 per ounce in a large scale gold mining company. Silver could reach $10 for only a few days, which would cause a mass buying and hopefully capitalism will prevent the government from confiscating precious metals when the people own the precious metals.

      • Optimist

        When gold languished in 300 range. Mining costs were less. Watch if gold dips below 1000. Mining costs miraculously drop to under that.

        • Syrin

          No, they don’t. You don’t know how business costs work. They typically go one way.

          • Ralfine

            Wages are business costs, and they drop for years.

          • Syrin

            No, wages go up every year unless you constantly hire and fire.

          • Ralfine

            Maybe I worked in the wrong company. My salary didn’t change for years, even in 10% inflation.

            But every year I could buy less.

            And yes, hiring and firing was practised there too. The experienced, expensive guys were fired, and fresh university graduates hired, who had no problems telling BS to the customers because they didn’t know any better.
            And every year less customers were satisfied with our services, and of course that was more reason to fire another expert.

      • Ralfine

        In about 2002 gold was about $240. So, $750 is still quite high. And not so long ago either was oil with $28 per barrel.

      • Gene Baugh BBA

        Prices in free financial markets can move below the cost of production. It is not at all impossible. This sometimes causes marginal producers to shut down operations.

        • Gay Veteran

          uh, we don’t have free financial markets, the banksters manipulate everything

          • Gene Baugh BBA

            Even the “Banksters” as you call them are human beings susceptible to the emotions of the society they are a part of. They make trading mistakes and take big losses just like the rest of us.
            Ever heard of Jamie Diamond?

          • Gay Veteran

            trading mistakes? quit licking the boots of the banksters, they engaged in wide spread FRAUD.
            go to Karl Denninger’s website and educate yourself

      • Gene Baugh BBA

        You underestimate the power of markets. Emotion rules the markets not common sense. People sell to cut losses and to get something they need badly CASH.

  • BK

    Genesis 19:28

  • markthetruth

    We are bombarded with way too much information, why do i have to listen and worry about what these other country’s are doing we have our own issues and were Paying the Government to worry and keep us Safe (right) but I’m sick about worrying about their problems and our entertainment industry junk news.

    the end…

    • Ayn Rand

      Please just stop being a bigot Mark. I think you are a cool guy, but the bigotry thing just messes me up man. The foster care/government indoctrination system will screw children up more than any homosexual parents would. Besides, if they raise the children right it doesn’t matter. Why should a heterosexual couple be allowed to raise children when they instill parasitic values into them, over a libertarian freedom loving homosexual couple?

      • markthetruth

        It’s not Being a Bigot . It’s evaluating a issue that is too new to bring children into as they are biologically bought into this world by a female and have a need for her that can’t be filled by a man . I’m a parent of 4 and i see how much they want mommy. Also what if their kissing in front of them and they believe that it is normal , and what if they change from a female or male to the opposite when they are 9,10 years of age. These children are innocent and don’t need to be involved in this matter at this time. Kids are messed up enough as it is.
        We can totally mess our society for good. This is a uncharted area and don’t involve a innocent human.

        the end…

        • Ayn Rand

          Ridiculous. You are advocating government intrusion into families by saying this. That is statism. Studies have shown that children raised by heterosexual couples and homosexuals couples have little to no differences on average. I don’t agree with what you are raising your children to believe, so does that gives me the right to intrude into your family and TAKE YOUR CHILDREN AWAY!?! NO! Besides, as I said before, the foster care system is far worse. FAR WORSE! You are advocating the destruction OF THEIR FAMILY UNIT! Seriously, how would you like me to advocate taking away YOUR CHILDREN!?!

          • Bad_Mr_Frosty

            I don’t believe any study done on modern politically sensitive issues. Scientists are paid by the government and corporations to come up with “politically correct” scientific conclusions.

            James Watson, who discovered the structure of DNA, was fired for daring to state IQ is mostly genetically determined. This has been proven over and over, but he was still fired for coming to a politically incorrect scientific conclusion.

          • Ayn Rand

            It still doesn’t matter. Nobody has a right to take children away from loving parents.

          • markthetruth

            Divorce ! In Lesbian or gay marriage when it comes time who then becomes the mother.

            the end…

          • Ralfine

            Divorce is an interesting subject.

            Let’s say a man and a woman get married, get children.

            Then the woman discovers she is lesbian.

            Who shall take care of the kids after the divorce? Do you agree they need their mommy?

            Then she lives in her new partnership. She has an accident – who shall take care of the kids?

            Yes, these are exceptions, But homosexuality is just an exception – only 5-10% of the population is homosexual. Most of the abuse (bullying) done on children of homosexual parents and on homosexual children and youth is done by “confused” heterosexuals like yourself.

          • Ayn Rand

            Whoever is more fit to care for the child. or partial custody. Quite simple.

          • Gay Veteran

            like heterosexuals haven’t been divorcing for decades!?!?!?

          • markthetruth

            Not take away, don’t let them adopt . If seen my dad kissing my male mother or my friends happened to see it . I wouldn’t want to go to school anymore.
            Most of the gay and lesbian couples adoption are to rich people .

            the end…

          • Ayn Rand

            They have already adopted. Are you saying single parents can’t adopt? The only reason those children with gay adopted parents wouldn’t want to go to school would be because of bigots like you. It is better than letting them rot in foster care. WHICH IS A GOVERNMENT TORTURE CHAMBER FOR ORPHANS! Better to have loving parents with a different lifestyle than no parents at all.

          • Gay Veteran

            you are truly an idiot

          • Robert (qslv)

            Your’e in a losing game, Ayn. Even if you manage to adopt some “throw away” kids and convert them into homosexuality, they will be unable to procreate normally, and natural selection will weed out their offspring. Nature doesn’t care about being sensitive to your feelings. Homosexuality is a failed experiment in the natural selection process, and will always be a malady and a perversion.

          • Ralfine

            If it were so easy to convert sexuality, why do homosexual children, who are born to and raised in heterosexual marriages do not turn out heterosexual?

            Actually, homosexuality is caused during pregnancy.
            It is just a malady and perversion as blue eyes, blond hair and left-handedness.

            Why is it that most of the humans have dark hair and eyes? Shouldn’t the blonds and especially the red hairs dye their hair to appear normal?

          • Graham

            Just a malady? How interesting. Did “God” make a few mistakes, or does his mansion have many rooms?

            Leave you with a profound clue. 99% of human DNA is anything but “junk”. It is also “alien” to this planet, but you aren’t supposed to know that. It’s all in the bloodlines!

            Try programming it correctly and see what happens! And I do not refer to artificial mutation or chemically induced interference. The latter has the opposite effect. Hence…

            Also checkout how much estrogen is in the food chain and why. What’s the outcome?

          • Ralfine

            Well, there are people that believe that god’s house has many rooms and there are others that believe anyone who is not a copy of themselves is a perversion.

            There are people who trust god that he will judge everyone some day and there are those who do not trust him, and they question his ways every day and they want to take “law” into their own hands and punish people for not being a clone of their normality.

            Maybe life would be better if those people wouldn’t question god’s ways all the time but their own.

            for example: how do my bombs and armies make other people hate me so much that they send suicide bombers my way?

          • Ayn Rand

            You are an idiot. I am not a homosexual. I am a FREEDOM FIGHTER! I fight to rid the world of controlling bigots like you. You are a disease. I am the cure.

          • DownWithLibs

            Have fun explaining your position on this to God someday! I really pity you.

          • Ayn Rand

            What God? Your God? Some God that a bunch of Hookah smoking Palestinians came up with? The Bible was written by mortal men. I bow down to NO MAN OR MASTER! I pity YOU! You are a slave to your religion. Live your life in fear of your PATHETIC GOD!

          • Gay Veteran

            gee, that must be why Nature keeps on producing gays in 1000s of species

          • Graham

            Are you referring to “non human” species? If so, they are one “density” further down the ladder from humans.

          • Gay Veteran

            uh, there’s only 1 human species, so yes I was referring to non-human species

        • Sarah Greenfeld

          I agree with you mark..I used to think that my lesbian sister was just the same as any person, until I caught here molesting kids!

          Do a literature search on homosexuals and their sexual abuse of kids, you will be amazed at the statistics!

          • Ayn Rand

            One isolated instance…
            I could see no proof to your claim after searching. You are a pathetic bigot.

          • Gay Veteran

            PROOF please!
            god knows that heterosexuals NEVER molest kids

          • Ayn Rand

            We don’t always agree Gay Veteran, but I am definitely on your side with this issue.

          • Gay Veteran

            the only reason being Gay is an issue is because some hets insist on using the power of the state to tyrannize us

        • Ralfine

          Well, if mommy and daddy are gone, what do you do with the kids?

          Have them disappear in order not to confuse you?

        • Gay Veteran

          gee, mark, parents who are single because their spouse died have raised kids for 1000s of years
          Sorry if that gets in the way of diatribe

      • DownWithLibs

        It’s not bigotry to tell the Truth.

        • Ayn Rand

          What truth? I detect no hint of truth. Only statist totalitarianism.

        • Gay Veteran

          but it is bigotry to be a bigot

    • MeMadMax

      We are repeating what the romans did as they were falling to oblivion: Fiat money, socialized everything, screwed up army, etc etc. And yes, of course homosexuality. Germans did something similar during the fall of the weimar republic, only they did prostitution on a huge scale.

      • Ralfine

        Germany didn’t fall because of the roaring 20s.

        Germany fell because they started a war too many.

        Likewise Carthage, Rome, and the US.

        The Soviet Union died because of the arms race in cold war. The US is still spending on armament as if money is falling from the skies.

        • Dr. G

          Actually, the debauchery (prostitution, homosexuality, etc. etc.) are tools used to pacify, numb, and erode the moral sensibilities of a nation at war. If you can redirect the moral compass, and entertain them with inexpensive sexual gratification, then getting the populace to kill the enemy that isn’t really a threat is a lot easier. Its hard to get a moral people to kill. Not so hard to get an immoral people to kill.

          • Ralfine

            According to your definition, show me a moral people.

          • Gay Veteran

            wake up, man has been killing man since the dawn of time

      • Gay Veteran

        yes, Gays caused the mighty Roman Empire to collapse
        eyeroll

        • DownWithLibs

          Exactly! You are right on target.

          • Gay Veteran

            oh noez! someone else who can’t recognize sarcasm.

        • Semper Fortis

          immigration combined with massive expansion, partly due to feed all the immigrants!

          thats why rome fell

          oh, and greed + hypocrisy

      • Charrick

        Homosexuality was normal in both Greece and Rome for hundreds of years, particularly during their peaks. On the other hand, Christianity became the state religion in the Roman Empire just shortly before collapse. Just sayin’.

    • Ralfine

      You are confused on what to do?

      Easy. Don’t hurt people. Don’t bully them. Tell your kids off if you see them bullying someone.

      If you can do that, that is a good first step.

      • Ayn Rand

        Thank you for making sense Ralfine.

    • Ayn Rand

      I really like the economic principles on this blog, but the bigots just kill me.

      • markthetruth

        This will create an economic impact , if they adopt it’s going to drive adoption rates to a new stratosphere.
        Plus we have enough kids here why do they have to go abroad , They should adopt the baby from the US first. And limit our issues in the Foster Homes.

        the end…

        • Ralfine

          It is usually a matter of permission. Did you ask them? I could imagine, they are not allowed to adopt in the US, because the christian care home doesn’t give the permission.

          • markthetruth

            Could be. But there are gay priest. Also in NY City they already have a Gay High school because abuse and bulling both ways. We are creating two new races.

            the end…

          • Bad_Mr_Frosty

            More useful idiots for the commies to use against what’s left of our normal, healthy society.

          • DownWithLibs

            Too true. What is the saying, “The Truth will out”. Stifle it all you want, but you cannot reverse it or contain it. And it will be a painful day for most when the Truth finally breaks free.

          • Ayn Rand

            Rambling on about your “Truth” again? What truth do you have? Any proof? An ancient book that could have been written by anyone? All you have is faith, and faith is for SHEEP!

        • Gay Veteran

          gee, gays wouldn’t adopt kids here if YOU heterosexuals adopted them.
          just like abortion, you want to place the burden on others

    • Graham

      Confusion is the perfect control mechanism. People just need to unravel how the “confusion syndrome” functions.

      Watch the things they have “right in your face” until you accept them as being “normal”. How many layers has an onion? How many have the capacity to peel it?

      What’s “normal” about the human brain “consciously” functioning on average with 10% awareness? Zilch. So that leaves 90% room for improvement.

      Many steps have been taken to ensure you don’t consciously awaken. Reading the alternate media is just a small step. Understanding the layers of the onion is where the truth lies.

      The process the majority will have to rely on is known as the “hundredth monkey effect”. Alternatively, magnetise 1% of an iron rod and what happens? It all gets a bit “quantum”. Find out how consciousness works as there is no shortage of data.

  • GSOB

    Hi Ho Silver, Away!

    • saintmatty

      He, you a drummer? Me too!

      • GSOB

        Yes. Great.!

  • Syrin

    Michael, can you answer this?

    Do you think the paper and physical market will ever split. I think physical gold is probably worth $2000/ounce right now based on the law of supply and demand, but it’s value is attached to the ETF paper junk which maybe be worth $50/ounce, but is so voluminous and being dumped by the ton, literally. I think all the paper jettisoning is dragging down the real value of the physical supply, so when will gold and silver have separate prices? (and as an aside, who in the WORLD is still buying paper PMs?)

    • MichaelfromTheEconomicCollapse

      Yes, I do think that it will split. But not entirely. Paper silver will also go much, much higher in the long-term.

      Michael

  • Gene Baugh BBA

    Of course a true deflationist would say, “You have to remember, it started a lot lower than that. It was five dollars when this whole crazy party started. After it had been crushed from $50.”
    If you look back far enough. If its a deflationary collapse we face it should collapse back to where it started; maybe more with momentum.

  • Gene Baugh BBA

    Off course a true deflationist would say. You have to remember where it started from. A deflationary collapse would put it back where it started maybe more with momentum overshoot.

  • Gene Baugh BBA

    Sometimes I feel like the last defender of the dollar.

  • Gene Baugh BBA

    You might have noticed that it (the dollar) bottomed over two years ago.

  • Gene Baugh BBA

    It (the dollar) had a wicked wave two but it didn’t make a new low. And now it appears to be going up in wave three to everybody’s disbelief.

  • Gene Baugh BBA

    Read your own story. The dollar has not gone up against silver so fast and so much in how many years? 30? Suddenly everybody wants, needs to have dollars. Not stuff. Amazing to see isn’t it?

    • Syrin

      The real question is will you come back here with your tail between your legs in a years time.

      • Gene Baugh BBA

        The future is uncertain. What we see right now before our eyes is the dollar gaining against assets. This is what you would expect in deflation.
        That being said, I would not ridicule someone for beginning to make regular monthly purchases at these prices.

  • Gene Baugh BBA

    Everybody in the bond market wishes they hadn’t loaned theirs.

  • Gene Baugh BBA

    Suddenly everybody is scrambling to get some dollars. I see many people that would love to get some more of it. Few who have enough to feel ‘over that.’

    • Non-GMOWheat

      More dollars to buy more silver.

      • Gene Baugh BBA

        Exactly! The dollar is still our medium of exchange.

  • Gene Baugh BBA

    I bet everyone reading this would like to have some more cash. Right? Who would not?

    • Ayn Rand

      Fiat currency systems are doomed to fail. They are an empire of falsehoods, ruled by a king who does not even exist. In the end, they have no value. They are faith based. All fiat currency systems, historically, have failed. Today, the ENTIRE WORLD has fiat currency. I would prefer goods rather than cash.

      • Gene Baugh BBA

        Maybe someday but today if you want a What-a-burger it costs dollars. Even gold and silver are priced in dollars.

        • Ayn Rand

          Do some research into the federal reserve system and the massive inflation and falling standard of living in America. I would like to see you say the same thing after that (:

    • Syrin

      Not a chance. I converted almost every asset I have out of US dollars, got out of stocks and bonds, paid off my mortgage, and bought a gold/silver mine in the Yukon. Ask Zimbabwe or the Weimar Republic what they would rather have. A trillion dollar bill or bought and paid for farm land. History is not your friend. Empiric numbers are not your friend. The normalcy bias is very strong with you.

      • Robert (qslv)

        Syrin, how much does it cost you to mine an ounce of silver?

      • Gene Baugh BBA

        If someone handed you $50 cash you would take it wouldn’t you?

        • GSOB

          Maybe

    • Non-GMOWheat

      More cash to buy more of the silver and store it as savings. The only thing is that the immigrants are coming into the country by the millions each year while millions of jobs are are being offshored every decade. My job is not represented by any communist trade union so you know that my retirement prospects are dependent on private insurance and private investments.

      • Yo mama

        I’m a commie teamster. I make $52 per hour 10 hr minimum days with full health and pension benefits. Maybe you Dummies would have been better going the commie route.

  • Richard

    “…even many mainstream analysts are projecting that the price of silver is headed into the stratosphere over the long-term.”

    Mainstream analysts are usually – almost ALWAYS – wrong! (Bullish at the top and bearish at the bottom…)

  • Richard

    I’ve read through all the comments (51 to date). NOT ONE BEAR AMONG THEM. That should give all you bulls shivers down your spine. Shaking my head in disbelief!

  • Sarah Greenfeld

    i don’t know about you “optimist” but with my physical gold, i can sleep soundly not having to worry about what the economy is gonna do. No stock, currency or ETF can give me that feeling of safety.

    That’s the value of physical gold and a lot more people are gonna be wanting to sleep soundly as well while the economy continuous to fall apart.

  • chilller

    Just read a good article on Kitco by Daryl Robert Schoon. According to his sources, the PM prices have been driven down (again) by the big bouillon bankers to cover their short positions. Now that they’ve covered their despicable hineys…they are net long investors. Should be an explosive upward move in PM’s in the near future. And I’d trade all my PM’s for an explosive upward move in the number of banking elitists incarcerations.

  • Optimist

    I would buy gold and silver when I believe the price is right. My portfolio mostly stocks. Would diversify into metals when I see it as a value play. Not at these prices. Gold under 750. Silver under 10. If not I won’t buy. Love real estate. And muni bonds.

  • Scipio

    “Of a total of fifty billion ounces of silver that have been mined in history, only two ounces (estimate) or 5% remain in above ground inventories available to be bought and sold.”

    Incredible !! Incredible !! Doesn’t anyone ever READ this nonsense before it is sent out ???

  • WCM

    I tried to buy some silver coins in a store yesterday and didn’t do it. They quoted the price at $25.46 per ounce. I said “NO THANK”!!!

    • Robert (qslv)

      The best deal you can get anywhere is about $3.50 over spot. That would be a place like Gainseville coins or Kitco. A retail store will charge a bit more. This spread is high because demand outstrips the supply in hard metals. I paid $24.65 a week ago and may buy 20 more Eagles this week for about $22.00. The more you buy, the smaller the spread. It costs about $24.00 to mine an ounce of silver so we’re in a good price range here.

      • Redneck Joe

        If it costs $24 to mine, why was I able to buy it anywhere for under $10 in 2009?
        I own quite a bit, but this mining cost logic always seems like a bunch of BS to me.

  • jokyjo

    I see silver going through the roof. Hard to say when because our gubmint seems very adept at keeping the charade going. The markets are no longer free, they are so manipulated that it’s almost impossible to predict when SHTF with any certainty. When this “economic recovery” ends, then we will see the death of the US dollar and gold and silver to new highs.

  • Nette Smith

    Michael, now that the same-sex marriage has been upheld by the Supreme Court, let’s watch and see what happens to America. I bet that we will have very severe weather, and we’ll be at war in the middle east within a few months. Our economy is going to tank this year. I have never seen God reward countries that kick Him out of their lives.

    • Ralfine

      Oh yes, especially since the economy was brilliant until yesterday, and the gay hating Middle East the best friends of America.

    • Ayn Rand

      Really? It is called cause and effect. Learn to apply it you fool.

    • MichaelfromTheEconomicCollapse

      The United States has rejected the instruction of the Lord in just about every way. In the end, we will see great judgment come to America.

      Michael

      • Ayn Rand

        I am disappointed in you Michael. A good economist uses cause and effect, not faith.

        • markthetruth

          Because for something to have value, you need to have Faith in It.

          the end…

          • Ayn Rand

            I only have faith in tangible things…

          • markthetruth

            I figured that , you have no Faith in your Thoughts.

            the end…

          • Ayn Rand

            My thoughts are tangible to myself my friend… I need no book written by mere mortal men to determine what I think and feel. I need only myself. My self is superior in power to anything else that attempts to influence me. I am the judge jury and executioner of my own thoughts and actions. I, in my own way, am god of myself. I determine my own destiny. Nothing shall stand in my way.

          • Graham

            You are destined for an almighty fall when you realise the ego is little more than an illusive parasite of the mind.

            Watch the stones you fail to overturn, for one may ruin your mastership over your own destiny. Your choice of nick is very telling. Who are you?

            No mind is an island!

          • Ayn Rand

            I know my limits friend. I am no fool.

          • Gay Veteran

            really? oxygen has value to us breathers but there is NO faith involved

          • markthetruth

            Your faith is that you keep breathing.

            the end…

          • Gay Veteran

            why does god hate amputees?
            not the end

      • Lisa

        you guys are really stupid with your God’s judgement..blah, blah,blah. You do realize for generations that people have committed heinous acts upon other people and you all want to make your stance about God’s judgement on the homosexual agenda? Really? Not the fact that innocent children are beaten and molested everyday in America, wives beaten, people murdered, stolen, governments interfering and creating crisis’ in other countries, the murder of millions of Iraqi’s since Sept. 11th, the wars we create, people our government murders to keep them quiet, people who die because they can’t pay for a necessary but not life or death operation because their insurance won’t cover it or they are uninsured, and the list can go on and on. Yet God’s judgement will just now come to fruition because of the homosexual thing? How narrow minded and sad.

        The truth is people lie. Niceness does not mean goodness and perhaps our interpretation of the instruction of the Lord is incorrect. How can it be correct when it comes from the mind and heart of a sinful creation?

        • GSOB

          Good question Lisa,

          “How can it be correct when it comes from the mind and heart of a sinful creation?”

          Jeremiah 17:9
          ‘The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?’

          But then in Ephesians 3:16b> 17 it says:

          be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
          17. That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that you, being rooted and grounded in love,

          Seems like a contradiction but, it implies, and in answer to your question, God in Christ has provided
          salvation through the process of regeneration.

          Apart from that – we remain in darkness.

        • Ayn Rand

          Why can’t all Christians be like you, who are obviously more tolerant and don’t have this “Lord’s Wrath” narrative?

          • DownWithLibs

            God IS NOT tolerant of sin. Ever hear of the flood of Noah? God nearly wiped out all of mankind. He is WRATH too. That cannot be understated. And the day of reckoning is getting much closer with each transgression we commit – and I mean all people of Earth and all sins. Anyone who says they are Christian and praddle on about God only being about love and tolerance are doing you a severe disservice.

          • Ayn Rand

            I don’t care about Christianity. I bow down to no god or master.

          • DownWithLibs

            You will!!!

          • Ayn Rand

            LOL. I will call you when that happens.

          • Gay Veteran

            you sound like a frightened child

      • Gay Veteran

        guess you mean when we had slavery, and the Bible was so UNclear that slaveholders used it to justify slavery

        • Shmeggle Marxist

          you mean when the democrats owned slaves and promoted slave ownership as a way of life?

          • Gay Veteran

            oh yes, the southern democrats were slave holders.
            but after the Civil Rights Act of 1964 the racist southern democrats became republicans

          • Shmeggle Marxist

            sorry liar, in 1976 they still voted for carter. you are a racist.

          • Ayn Rand

            F**k Democrats and Republicans. All statists if you ask me.

          • Gay Veteran

            and who won in 1968 and 1972? the Republican Nixon.
            ever hear of the Southern Strategy?
            educate yourself below opening that piehole of yours

        • GSOB

          During the first century New Testament times, slaves converted to Christianity, were regarded as freedman brothers in Christ and included in Christ’s kingdom inheritance.

          (Quoted)

          And true

          • Gay Veteran

            1860, America, southern slaveholders use the bible to justify slavery

      • Gay Veteran

        well the word of the “Lord” was used by southern slave masters to justify slavery. amazing the bible couldn’t get something as simple as that right

    • Non-GMOWheat

      The public schools are already conditioning kids to become s–ualized, thereby increasing the risk of peddle feelia. And we already know how many teachers are implicated in controversial relations with students. The education system has failed the children and this is bad, because same-ses marriages and peddle feelia are sometimes related.
      And these deviance all happen at the same time when economy is failing and government corruption is high.
      Check and see the types of videos and movies out there. The showing of bare buhtocks is considered a PG rating and dirty talk is G rating.

    • Gay Veteran

      hey Nette, we ALREADY have severe weather, and the Elites want us in war in Syria

      • Shmeggle Marxist

        severe weather, you mean the global warming hoax? bwahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

        • Gay Veteran

          the northern most range of plants is moving further and further north.
          gee, wonder why USDA is studying climate change and how it will affect agriculture

          • Shmeggle Marxist

            sure shmuck, sure

          • Gay Veteran

            too stupid to google it, eh

          • Shmeggle Marxist

            keeplickingthatcockmotherfucker

          • Gay Veteran

            you have a foul mouth, and I’m sure an equally foul personality

      • Shmeggle Marxist

        global warming hoax for effeminate pieces of garbage, bwahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

        • Gene Baugh BBA

          Tell that to the south seas islanders whose islands are disappearing due to the rise in sea level.

        • Gay Veteran

          project much?

  • Ayn Rand

    Most homosexuals do not consider themselves the opposite gender. Those are called transgendered people. People can live their lives the way they want to live them you statist neocon.

  • Trailer Park Investor

    Not to change the subject:
    But did anyone hear that Obummer signed into law a bill that would restrict the CO2 output of coal fired power plants. Effectively putting them out of business?
    Where are we going to make up that power (cheap power) that we will loose when these plants close their doors? We wont and power, (your power) will double, tripple, quadrupple and then rise some more in price. Get ready it’s coming, Obummer is out to destroy Amerika and he’s got a pretty good start on it. I think we should shut the power off to the Washington and see how how they like living in the dark, cold and heat of the elements. not fun uh?
    You can bet they got lots of power in Washington? And what about the veterans, old solders and senior citizens living on resperators and breathing machines who’s very lives depend on safe, reliable, cheap power, what about them?

    Michael this topic would make a great piece to write about???

  • Ralfine

    Yes, many gay people are molested BECAUSE they are gay.

    There is the “father” f***ing the son to show him what “he has chosen”, and the other “father” trying to “cure” his lesbian daughter by raping her.

    I, myself, was never molested or abused by anyone. I just happened to fall in love with my best friend and not being interested in girls at all, no matter how hard I tried.

    As homosexuality was “capitalist decadence” and therefore “didn’t exist in socialism”, there weren’t even any gay role models around. Not in public, not in movies, nor in literature.

    There was ONE book, that “explained” what homosexuality was: “a perversion”. I found it in the library of the next largest city.

    And it wasn’t any help at all.

    • Ayn Rand

      Maybe if these people were true capitalists and freedom fighters, they would accept other lifestyles!

      • Ralfine

        Yes. Where only money counts, like in Hong Kong, many different religions can live close together without killing each other.

  • Ralfine

    How about you shall not kill?

    There are 500 murders every year in Detroit alone. That can’t be healthy for a society.

  • Dave Webb

    There are two things wrong. Remember the Hunt episode where the government stepped in a ruined people.

    One reason for silver going down is that we no longer use silver to process photographs such as 35 mm cameras.
    That was an enormous drain on supply and demand for silver at one time.
    The question becomes a matter of When . . .
    I believe the government will step in one day and confiscate all the gold and possibly silver. Buy at one price, and make it illegal to own. Then sell on the international banking markets at one and half to two times what the resource was bought for. History repeats itself often. This happened in the 30s.
    It happened with silver in the 90s.
    Russia and China are a factor here.
    I suspect China will dump gold on the market. This will occur when a banking crisis in China threatens to close all the banks in China. I think that is happening right ow.
    India holds vast resources of Gold in their banks. I suggest they also might find it necessary to dump Gold on a massive scale. When . . .
    That is the critical question I have no answer for.
    I think the new metal might not be a metal at all. It might be the food resources of the world as they dwindle with weather conditions going crazy. It might be food because of the crisis in bees dying and not pollinating crops.
    It might be the water situation getting worse in the producing farm country of our nation.
    It might be the sterilization of mankind eating genetically altered foods by major food concerns.
    These companies attempt to protect themselves by making one generation seed that has to be repurchased every year. What is to say that is not a dangerous dead end in the life cycle of the entire planet. I simply do not know. But I do know it is possible.
    Don’t believe your food is safe from the government. They have already legislated the Presidential Authority to come in and take your food if it becomes necessary.

  • Contanium

    It always appears to me that the author of the articles always push people to buy emergency food listed on this site by intimidating people about economy fuss…….don’t care too much…each one have his or her own hidden agenda

    • ChingatchCroute

      “to buy emergency food listed on this site”
      >>>LISTED ON THIS SITE<<<

      "Hidden" Agenda!???
      I'd say they are pretty open about trying to help poor schmucks like you.

      • Yo mama

        3 words: y . 2 . K . Eat up dummies, make sure you stack some judgement day beans in the garage. Oh you don’t have any judgment day beans? Oh well we just so happen to have a sale going right now, only $29.99 a can. They have a picture of Jeeeezzzus on em to make you feel safe

  • goldminer

    The FED and Central banks have declared war on gold and silver to prop up the worthless dollar and make it look good.. . They are doing the best they can to beat down the price of PMs. Yet why are the central banks who run the FED buying physical gold at unprecedented amounts????
    You hear on the news that PMs are in a bear market and the dollar is strong. Yean right!
    LOL
    Dollar is strong against what? A bunch of other failing currencies? All the worlds fiat money is going down the drain together. The dollar is just floating at the top before finally being sucked down the drain.
    The FED and banksters want your gold and PMs. They are driving down the price with one hand while buying all they can all they can with the other. Demand for physical gold, silver and other PMs is thru the roof right now. Central banks are dumping their Paper gold & Buying the real thing.
    They know what is coming down.
    First they will buy all your gold. Because you panicked and sold it.
    You invest the money you have left in the markets. Where you are told “That is the best place to be now” Bull market….
    The banksters crash the market.
    Stealing all your wealth. Making you dependent on them or the government (Same Thing)
    We do not live in a free market economy anymore. It is a managed economy.
    Keep your gold and other PMs. Buy more. I just bought silver today This is a great buying opportunity to make your finances solid. Don’t depend on paper.
    The banksters fear wealth in the hands of the free people. Thay want all your money so they can control you.

    • Non-GMOWheat

      I think the market is government with a few corporations pulling the strings, so that is neither capitalism or communism. What is the term when the few corporations collude with the government? Corporateism? But in a free economy there is no few corporations. This is why I shouldn’t have spent 2 years in college learning about Marxism. Marxism believes if 1,000,000s of peasants rise against the New World Order, things would change. They will usher in Martial Law while the remaining survivors are taken care of in the FEMA camps.

      • Gay Veteran

        the merger of state and corporate power is called fascism

  • K Smith

    Silver has long had application killing viruses and bacteria, but that knowledge and application has been kept on the down low by big pharma seeking to marginalize its usefulness in that regard. In colloidal form it is an excellent antiviral and antibacterial.

  • markthetruth

    Your Right ! God does not make bad things happen in this world. We do, and when we don’t listen he will not stop us and will let’s us Destroy everything he built for us including ourselves .Then he will wipe it clean and will build it over again.

    the end…

    • Lisa

      What if God never wipes out the population and starts over as many Christians claim happens in the Bible? I mean how many decades and generations of sin can God really tolerate? It’s not going to get better God just in case you are listening. Each generation is filled with some that do evil and some that do good. We are all capable and have done both. Even a small act of cutting someone off in traffic can have a butterfly trigger effect that we do not even fathom or even know about as we move from place to place so fast and most never stop to consider how one small seemingly insignificant remark or action can cause so many bad things or good things to happen.

      • Gay Veteran

        jeez, the article is about SILVER and somehow the bible thumpers took over

        • Shmeggle Marxist

          and so did fools like you, look at your comments fool

          • Gay Veteran

            hey moron, I wasn’t the one that started this

        • markthetruth

          The crucible is for silver, and the furnace is for gold, and the Lord tests hearts

          the end…

      • Ayn Rand

        Who is to say what is evil and what is good? A book written by humans thousands of years ago? I say as long as you do not harm others, their rights, or their property then you did no harm.

    • GSOB

      “God does not make bad things happen in this world.”

      Ask Job about that.,,,
      Moses, Noah, Abraham….
      Think what God did to His son.
      ‘For God made Christ, who never sinned, to be the offering for our sin, so that we could be made right with God through Christ.’

      2 COR 5:2

      • DownWithLibs

        Man did it, God only allowed it. Nothing happens without Him at the helm. People forget, in Gods eyes we are free to chose and we were NEVER promised a rose garden existence!

        • GSOB

          You are deceived.

          The point of salvation is we, that is – no one can or is able to FREELY come to Christ unless it has been predestined by God, in all providence, for it to come to pass.

          It is not of him who wills or of him who runs, but it is of God, who shows mercy.

          Yes, it is all of him and none of us. That shows how depraved we are and how merciful He is.

          • DownWithLibs

            But we all have a CHOICE to come to God…he will not force us, even though it would be the best for us.

  • Gay Veteran

    oh, you know 1 gay person?

  • Gay Veteran

    gee mark, what about WIDOWERS????
    idiot

  • cpgone

    Cost to mine Ag is about 20-25 Usd per troy oz.
    Mines may start shutting

    • Yo mama

      Bull crap. Where did you read that king world news? Silver is mostly a by product of mining for other metals. I.e. junk, trash, etc. it’s going under $10. Mark my words, and I would sell on any bumps like we had on Friday. Maybe start buying in August. Maybe. But just for the cyclical short term. Under $10 by this time next year, barring any extreme events.

      • cpgone

        You are guessing. 100 % if the time when buying under the cost of production a profit was made. Keep hoping and waiting. If you luck out I will be buying at 10 w/you.

      • cpgone

        Lots of well documented info. about the cost of mining Ag. which you didn’t mention.

  • Mark

    While I was looking through my loose change the other day, I found a silver dime!!!

  • GSOB

  • DownWithLibs

    Thank you.

  • Gay Veteran

    and do you follow the REST of Leviticus? or do you just cherry pick the parts of the bible you agree with?

    • GSOB

      Do you even know?

      • Gay Veteran

        the only rule I follow is the golden rule

        • Graham

          And what may that golden rule be?

          • Gay Veteran

            google it

  • Gene Baugh BBA

    The metals markets have been signaling DEFLATION for over a year. And now they are screaming it.

    DEFLATION soon coming to a stock market near you?

    Our moderator agrees that deflation will come first.

    He and I differ in that my expectation is for a deflationary collapse followed by a generation long period before society embraces debt again. Enough to cause inflation again that is.
    This is in accordance with the Kondratiev wave.
    America has experienced four cycles of the Kondratiev wave and this appears to be the fifth, quite behind schedule thanks to the efforts of the Central Banks. 1986 would have been right on time but it took until 2000 for things to begin to fall apart,

    • Yo mama

      What is your investment strategy in a deflationary environment? Any idea of a time frame? Thanks for your insight, this board is in dire need of a sensible alternate viewpoint to Armageddon. Feel bad for all those poor old folks that have been fleeced by all the p.m. Hucksters.

  • Ralfine

    The term homosexuality was created in the 20th century. It was unknown to Leviticus.

    Are you faking quotes to make them fit for your own benefit?

    Wasn’t that Jesus who mentioned the timber in your eye?

    BTW, the bible talks about “lying with a boy as with a woman”

    And how many boy-abusing
    priests were put to death by the Christians in the last few years,
    and how many bishops covered for these priests, protecting them from
    prosecution?

    Is hypocrite a synonym for religious?

    You come back on this and report on the punishment of all those priests.

  • Andrew

    Silver below $20 is real!! Finally. But the high premiums on bullion bars still keep the price to the $20 mark or marginally higher. So if the price drops a couple of dollars, I can buy the silver bar I have been wanting to by since long…..

  • JohnO

    Just ordered a 10k Silver coin from the Perth Mint ;-)

  • Semper Fortis

    SO, “it will drop more”… but NOW is a GREAT time to BUY!?????

    any integrity. just trying yo cover your butt..knowing you HAVE BEEN DEAD WRONG on silver for 2 years..
    and anyone following your silver garbage over the last year are FOOLS and POORER becasue of it,

    SILVER ALREADY QUADRUPLED this decade!!

    what MORE CAN ANYONE with a BRAIN EXPECT?

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