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Smart Meters: Enforcement Of Mandatory Water Restrictions Is Only Just The Beginning

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Warning Signs 2 - Public DomainSmart meters are now being used by authorities to crack down on “water wasters” in the state of California, but this is just the tip of the iceberg as far as what they can be used for.  Ultimately, smart meters are designed to be part of an entire “smart grid” that will enable government bureaucrats “to control everything from your dishwasher to thermostat“.   And in recent years, there has been a massive push to install smart meters in as many homes in the United States and Europe as possible.  Back in December 2007, there were only 7 million smart meters installed in this country.  Today there are more than 51 million.  On the other side of the Atlantic, the European Parliament has set a goal of having smart meters in 80 percent of all homes by the year 2020.  This is being promoted as the “green” thing to do, but could it be possible that there is more to these smart meters than meets the eye?

In Long Beach, California authorities were getting complaints that a local McDonald’s restaurant was wasting water in the middle of the night.

So what did the authorities do?

They installed a smart meter which instantly started providing incriminating evidence against McDonald’s.  The following comes from CBS Los Angeles

The Long Beach Water Department says sprinklers at a McDonald’s restaurant on Bellflower Boulevard went on for 45 minutes at a time, twice a night, for an undefined number of nights. Complaints continued to mount as water pooled and wasted. The department, however, could do little about the wasting.

That was before the smart meter.

Since its installation in February, Long Beach Water Department General Manager Kevin Wattier says he saw an immediate spike by tens of thousands of gallons, each time McDonald’s overwatered their property.

And according to NPR, other large California cities are also now looking into how they can use smart meters to enforce the new mandatory water restrictions in the state…

By next February, California cities together are supposed to cut their water use by a quarter. Sacramento, San Francisco and some Central Valley cities are also seeing whether smart meters can help.

But smart meters are capable of determining far more than whether or not we are using too much water.

Already, police all over the country are using the data provided by smart meters to identify homes that are potentially growing marijuana.  Homes that grow marijuana tend to use much more electricity than other homes, and so if your home is using a high level of energy that is a red flag for the cops.

In addition, there are a whole host of other ways that smart meters can be used as surveillance devices by law enforcement.  The following list comes from an electronics and media expert from Burbank, California named Jerry Day…

1. They individually identify electrical devices inside the home and record when they are operated causing invasion of privacy.

2. They monitor household activity and occupancy in violation of rights and domestic security.

3. They transmit wireless signals which may be intercepted by unauthorized and unknown parties. Those signals can be used to monitor behavior and occupancy and they can be used by criminals to aid criminal activity against the occupants.

4. Data about occupant’s daily habits and activities are collected, recorded and stored in permanent databases which are accessed by parties not authorized or invited to know and share that private data.

5. Those with access to the smart meter databases can review a permanent history of household activities complete with calendar and time-of-day metrics to gain a highly invasive and detailed view of the lives of the occupants.

6. Those databases may be shared with, or fall into the hands of criminals, blackmailers, law enforcement, private hackers of wireless transmissions, power company employees, and other unidentified parties who may act against the interests of the occupants under metered surveillance.

7. “Smart Meters” are, by definition, surveillance devices which violate Federal and State wiretapping laws by recording and storing databases of private and personal activities and behaviors without the consent or knowledge of those people who are monitored.

8. It is possible for example, with analysis of certain “Smart Meter” data, for unauthorized and distant parties to determine medical conditions, sexual activities, physical locations of persons within the home, vacancy patterns and personal information and habits of the occupants.

If all of that wasn’t bad enough, there are also substantial concerns about the impact that these smart meters are having on our health

According to physician and epidemiologist Sam Milham, Smart Meters, which are linked to an array of health issues, emit as much as 100 times the amount of radiation as a cell phone.

Daniel Hirsch, a senior lecturer on nuclear policy at UCSC, says the federal government purposely misleads the public by conducting biased safety studies at the behest of power companies.

A Washington DC power company stirred controversy in 2013 after they were caught lying to the public about how often their smart meters emitted radiation. Despite claims that the meters only emitted radiation once every 4 to 6 hours, an investigation by WUSA9 News revealed the frequency to be closer to 4 to 6 times every minute.

When there is that much radiation blasting through our homes on a continual basis, it is inevitable that there are going to be health problems.

According to Infowars, tens of thousands of people have already reported significant health issues that they believe are directly related to the installation of smart meters in their homes…

Tens of thousands of individuals are reporting officially, to governments and utilities, that they are experiencing illness or functional impairments following the installation of “smart” meters. Reported symptoms include headaches, sleep problems, ear ringing, focus difficulties, fatigue, heart palpitations, nausea and statistically abnormal recurrences of cancer.

Perhaps you are dealing with one of the health issues just mentioned.

If so, you might want to check to see if you have a smart meter in your home.

There has got to be a better way for the state of California to monitor water usage rather than smart meters.

And without a doubt, the state of California is facing a crisis of unprecedented proportions.  The snowpack in the Sierras is only 5 percent of the long-term historical average.  Snow levels are currently at the lowest levels ever measured for this time of the year, and the snow is melting five to 30 days earlier than normal.  For much more on the nightmare that the state is dealing with, please see my previous article entitled “How Many People Will Have To Migrate Out Of California When All The Water Disappears?

Thankfully, there is a lot of waste that can be eliminated, so a lot of water can potentially be saved.  It turns out that Californians are some of the biggest water wasters on the entire planet.  The following statistic comes from the New York Times

California’s cities consume 178 gallons per person per day, on average. That’s 40 percent more than the per capita water consumption in New York City and more than double that of parched Sydney, in Australia.

So let’s hope that Californians start banding together and begin using water more wisely, because this drought is not likely to go away any time soon.

And the truth is that what is going on in the state of California is kind of a microcosm of the water crisis that is beginning to emerge all over the globe

The move by California to require mandatory cuts in water use for the first time in its history has highlighted the world’s looming water crisis and increased the focus on the links between sustainable water and sustainable energy.

“We need a new paradigm,” says Steven Solomon, author of Water: The Epic Struggle for Wealth, Power and Civilization. “The days when we could just go further into the mountains and find new sources of water are past. We need to make better use of the water we have.”

In the end, the drought in California is going to affect all of us.  A tremendous amount of our produce is grown in the state, and we will all soon be feeling the pain of the drought in our local grocery stores

As California’s multi-year drought rages on, consumers in the rest of the United States may soon be feeling the pinch at the grocery store as farmers around California reduce water and plant fewer crops.

California, sometimes called the ‘nation’s salad bowl’, is the country’s largest producer of grapes, kiwis, olives, avocados, broccoli, tomatoes, spinach, tree nuts and dairy. Now in the fourth year of a massive drought ‒ and facing only a year’s worth of water remaining in the state ‒ food prices in the US and agricultural unemployment in California are set to climb as farmers do what they can to conserve water and protect their investments.

So what do you think about all of this?

Please feel free to add to the discussion by posting a comment below…

  • K

    Yes, as someone who already has been stuck with a smart meter, for electricity. I can already tell you discussions are underway, to put similar devices on the water. Some states have gone so far, as discussing the monitoring of private wells. This is just the beginning..

    • Guest

      I’m surprised to hear that. Don’t you live in a rural area?

      • K

        Yes very rural, and up in the mountains. They got some sort of a deal on the meters, and did away with all the meter readers. Time, distance, fuel consumption, and dangerous conditions during the winter, were the reasons they gave.

    • quercus454

      They tried that where I used to live at in Ca. Metering wells. It didn’t work because land owners refused to allow them on their property. Refuse them access.

    • seth datta

      The smart meter has been proven to give off electromagnetic radiation which is a health hazard. Theoretically, if you pissed off the gov’t they could raise levels to such a degree that it impairs your thinking and your health. Such knowledge was covered-up as the owners of the system needed such a method of control over the population to be kept hidden for obvious reasons.

      Most of the planet is saturated by eletromagnetic radiation at this point due to satellites and proliferation of mobile technologies such as cellphones. But what can be used for good can also be hijacked to be used for evil.

      • K

        The type I have gives off far less radiation. It transmits through the electric lines. They really did not have a choice. Total dead zone for radio waves up here. Not even cellphone signal, Even the car radios in the cop cars, do not work up here.

        • Mangosteen, $1000 chair

          I am not trying to pry, but can you give me a general area? I want to live somewhere like that!

      • Backwoods Engineer

        BULLCRAP! PROVE IT!
        Such unsubstantiated nonsense would be considered actionable slander if we had a decent court system in this country.
        I’m a professional wireless & RF engineer, and I dispute nearly everything you’ve said.

      • nekksys

        1) The smart meter has been proven to give off electromagnetic radiation which is a health hazard.

        True. Sort of… Electromagnetic radiation (EMR) has, under certain conditions, been known to cause health problems. The level and frequency given off by Smart Meters is much like the wireless routers in many folks homes. Low-power, high frequency has little, if any, effect on health. If the Smart Meter has an RFID trigger, it only gives off radiation when told to do so. This limits exposures AND power consumption.

        2) Theoretically, if you pissed off the gov’t they could raise levels to such a degree that it impairs your thinking and your health.

        True. Sort of… If the system has been designed with an adjustable output RF transmitter. Most are not designed this way. In fact, the majority of Smart Meters in service in my area send their data over the power lines when triggered from home office. The few energy providers that do use RF probed meters are in the minority.

        3) Most of the planet is saturated by eletromagnetic radiation at this point due to satellites and proliferation of mobile technologies such as cellphones.

        True. Sort of… The level of EMR at ground level coming from a satellite is far lower then the radiation coming from our sun. For a geosynchronous satellite, the signal travels ~45000mi, uplink to downlink, so what starts as a 200W signal is maybe 1W on the return, usually less. Cellphones produce an extremely lower power signal which, again, isn’t nearly as powerful as some of the EMR from our sun. Cellphones produce 1-3W max, IIRC.

    • Funny thing

      A friend of mine had his stolen during a burglary by thieves, probably to sell to scrappers or gets used for whatever criminals use them for.

  • Bill

    Sounds like a leftover from 1984—–

    • seth datta

      Yes, the population control and mind control of our times is more intense. The banksters and their brethren are literally evil, as being made in the image of Satan, to enforce such measures upon the population as a method of population control.

      They needed to be ended a long time ago and wish to drag the world into a hell on earth. This they may achieve, before they and their evil descendents are finally sent to the grave.

  • Teodoro Cervantes-Leon

    As a Californian, I would anticipate that our heavy-handed and ineffective government will be exactly that. Solutions will generally be ill-planned and not very effective. Some will make things worse. If California finds a steady path to the future of less water, it will be in spite of government and their neighbors, not due to them. Pricing is the best solution. If the price of water rises sufficiently, use will respond accordingly. Whatever is left of the agricultural world will be very different. On the bright side, those with some money can look to the trends that will follow out of this. From migrating populations to alterations in urban living, there will be changes that can be capitalized to the benefit of the investor.

    I am personally going to see some negatives. I own land in the Sierras that is suffering greatly. Not only has the value plummeted but so is the ability to even sell it. It can’t produce the grazing that it needs to produce, yet the taxes will surely go up. Being advanced in age, I’m a bit too old to pull up stakes and move elsewhere. So, I’ll ride it out best I can. Life is a series of experiences and if we rest in the sovereignty and wisdom of the Lord, we can have much peace.

    • seth datta

      Does God give us water freely or do we pay some evil bankster Joo and his clan for it?

    • Richard O. Mann

      No matter what they do in California, they are still going to run out of water. By time they can implement all the conservation devices and other ways they are going to use to control water usage, the water will be gone. There are small towns that are already out of water. The larger cities will fight tooth and nail to maintain their water usage right up to the end. The question is just how soon the water runs out, and where will all those people go?

    • gman

      “Pricing is the best solution.”

      sorry, no. no amount of money will make water magically appear.

    • Pricing is the best solution?

      the fatal error your making is that your assuming is the all people place the same value on money as you do and many do not. Case in point a day care was trying to curb the problem parents being late in picking up their kids. The daycare set up a late fee that would discourage this – so what was the result? The problem grew out of control because people didn’t have the same value on money as the daycare owner did. Rather than curbing the problem it created even more problems.

      Just saying that the same thing will happen with Cali and water pricing.

  • Catman

    These devices that replace meter readers, etc. will become more common everywhere. Utility companies can greatly reduce personnel costs, thus increasing profitability.

    • Priszilla

      Or you could pay your meter reader a living wage for coming out to you.
      Let’s say it takes an hour to get to you so you pay $20 extra per month for meter reading + fuel.

  • Ben

    All things being equal, if you are going to make the life choice to live in a desert- where God did not intend for you to naturally reside in the first place- expect that you will not be able to utilize copious amounts of water if you lived in Washington State.

    I’m not for Big Brother monitoring and domination of our lives, but hey, you have to live within your means. Californians live well OUTSIDE of their ecological means, and the drought chickens are coming home to roost.

    • seth datta

      Agenda 21 is about forced relocation of populations through staged crises so people can be corralled into higher-density areas, where all will be dependent upon the bankster-corporate-state to provide for their needs. Obviously, this leads to slavery and genocide.

    • L O

      Eastern Washington state is a desert, did god not intend man to live there either?

      • TSA_TheSexualAssault

        Not so many people. People do live in deserts, but not many, unless you can divert the Colorado river.

      • Ben

        You shouldn’t live in the desert area. It’s just not a sustainable life choice, especially for us back to the land types.

  • Illegal

    Since Global whatever was to large of an issue a smaller target needed to be found. Ta da Califorina drought. Who are the benefliciaries? Why large corpoations. Drinking water is a large international business. Agriculture uses to much water no problem import food from China. Buy a rain barrel. Recycle your grey water. However, they will probsbly make you pay a fine because your not using the reqired minimum!

    • quercus454

      In Colorado there are places where it is illegal to catch rainwater run off from your roof.

      • Evil_shadow

        how on earth, they can forbid catching rain?! i know they can tax you high, but to be illegal catching rainwater? And i though our govt is waaay over their heads with forcing water meters to small local communities…

  • GSOB

    Cool, clear water.

    Water.

  • Daystrom2012

    He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads,
    and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.
    Revelation 13:16-18

    • seth datta

      The mark on their foreheads is perhaps a form of unclear thinking/mind control, that is forced upon us by our daily use of technologies which emit elctromagnetic radiation.

      In any case, smart meters are obviously a method of population control by elite interests.

  • T.

    Smart meters and dumb greedy politicians – What a great combination for an electronic Police State.

    • seth datta

      The politicians are just puppets for the banksters behind the scene and their backers, running everything. So I am not convinced that the politicians are really dumb, as opposed to paid actors of average/decent ability.

      • T.

        You are right about our Politicos. What we really have is symbiotic relationship between the Banksters and DC. The Banksters grease the Politicos with $’s and the Politicos pass legislation that benefits the Banksters – And Enslaves the Sheep.

  • Priszilla

    In Germany, utility companies use meters for ages to charge customers for every single drop of water, every kWh of energy.
    And consumers want meters too since they don’t want to pay for their wasteful neighbours.

    • seth datta

      Pushing this kind of thinking to its extreme, means that we should be charged for things that were free for otehr societies. They are used as methods of population control, but their usage by big money is evil.

      • Priszilla

        If you worked for a water company, would you like to be paid?

  • Priszilla

    A strong government could force companies to use fixed line smart meters to reduce radiation. But you’d probably then resent government influence.

    • You mean a strong corporate government? Corporatists surely would do that. Market solutions for everything, even as it kills ya…

  • Priszilla

    Another type of smart meter is fed with the current price for the utility so that the consumer can decide whether to consume or not.
    If you make an alu hat for the smart meter you could force the company to come out every other day to check for malfunction.

    • seth datta

      The government wants to make us all dependent on the system, which will mean that if you become a problem, your power is shut off or worse – essentially, you become a slave to the system and cannot really protest if they shut your amenities. Or the police force will come to kill you.

      This country and much of the world is becoming like the Roman Empire before the collapse (engineered in our case). But a collapse of a global society like ours will be much worse – it is inevitable, but as to when this will take place, that is a matter of debate. Only the blind would now say that a collapse on a global scale could never happen this century, and perhaps sooner rather than later.

      Greed by a small subset of people is the problem.

      • Priszilla

        If you reduce your power consumption to pretty much nothing, it will be much easier for you to get off-grid.

        • nekksys

          Hear hear!!! I’m in favor of that!!!

  • Priszilla

    The FCC regulates the radiation a device can use. No device shall interfere with military installations and other communication.
    In regard to health hazards there are liability laws. No large company is likely to intentionally expose themselves to millions of payouts.

    • Jack Frost

      What if exposure takes two or three decades to exhibit fatal symptoms? Much too late then to sue for liability if everyone inside each affected dwelling is dead or dying…

      • seth datta

        Those meters and many other related technologies are about control at an insidious level – they are harmful to human health and many scientific studies corroborate this, though many of those studies are buried by gig money.

        • Backwoods Engineer

          BULLCRAP! PROVE IT!
          Such unsubstantiated nonsense would be considered actionable slander if we had a decent court system in this country.
          I’m a professional wireless & RF engineer, and I dispute nearly everything you’ve said.

      • Priszilla

        Exposure to what exactly?

        An electricity meter is an electric motor.
        A smart meter is an electricity meter with a telephone and computer attached.
        That telephone can work like a fixed line phone or wireless like a cell phone.
        Maybe put aside the Bible for a few hours and read a physics book sometimes?

        • nekksys

          Priszilla, microwave level electromagnetic radiation (EMR) is what’s used for wireless communications; frequencies similar to what is used in, what else!, a microwave. These frequencies cause cell-level damage in living tissues IF the power behind them is high enough. Most cellphones, wireless routers and bluetooth devices emit such low power signals that they can’t cause damage. Even on a good day, wireless routers only produce enough power to carry about 500ft. Bluetooth, by design, only carries about 30ft. Cellphones only produce 1 to 3W which is negligible.

          • Priszilla

            The damage to the cell is because water absorbs the energy, heating up the cell.

            Here is a thought. If all those waves heat up the water in living tissue, then the body doesn’t need to burn sugars to keep the operating temperature within the limits?

            Hence, the energy is stored as fat?

            Which could explain why my IT manager is sooo fat.

    • Folgers 19

      Sure, let’s rely on them to have our best interests at heart. Just like when the govt. permitted aspartame. Leaded fuel. Or when they thought it was OK for kids to smoke cigarettes. Remember Thalidomide? How about that clean air chemical California approved as a fuel additive that turned out to be a deadly persistent chemical in drinking water? Remember when it was legal to have Xrays in shoe stores?

      • seth datta

        FCC is owned by bankers. They recently had a fake debate about regulating the internet – the bill passed and now we will see all websites becoming government sponsored propaganda with only nuggets of truth the banksters wish to share with us.

        • Backwoods Engineer

          Unbelievable nonsense. Slander!

          • TSA_TheSexualAssault

            Are you a Managed Persona? The looping is obvious. Who pays for your automation software?

  • Priszilla

    All those health symptoms reported are exactly the symptoms of chronic dehydration. Those people should drink more water.

    • seth datta

      Smart meters give off eletromagnetic radiation, amongst many other devices, all of which can lead to impaired thinking and reduced health. This infor is not shared with the masses by the corporate-banking-military complex as it ensures bankers can control populations without their knowledge. If you cause them enough of a problem, you become more ill all of a sudden, without necessarily knowing where it is coming from or who may be doing it.

      • Backwoods Engineer

        BULLCRAP! PROVE IT! !!!!
        Such unsubstantiated nonsense would be considered actionable slander if we had a decent court system in this country.
        I’m a professional wireless & RF engineer, and I dispute nearly everything you’ve said.

  • sara

    So forgive the dumb questions but how do you know if your meter is a smart meter? Can you force the electric company to change it back to a regular kind? I’ve never seen a meter reader here so I’m not too hopeful I have an old kind. But being early and dark out I haven’t checked yet and wanted to know what to look for….

    • K

      The old type had multiple dials, under a spinning disk. The new kind has a simple digital readout. If the radiation is your concern. There are filters that can be attached over the meter. However I have no personal experience with how well they work.

    • quercus454

      New smart meters are read by passing vehicles with special equipment. Old style meters had to be read by a person actually looking at the dials. Where I used to live they had smart water meters and smart electric meters

  • jakartaman

    Smart people can out smart the smart meters – That’s all I am going to say!

    • seth datta

      Government may force many to take ’em. And if everyone else has one, it may be difficult to resist. Even if you did resist, the meters have a wide range with regards to their eletromagnetic pollution, so the meters’ ranges would overlap with your property and you may suffer side effects from others’ having them.

      I agree the smart meters are not essential and are used by evil people at the top.

      • jakartaman

        Bingo seth – You are the winner.
        What would happen if a strong magnet was introduced to the meter

      • Priszilla

        Get a tin foil hat.

  • pintada37

    There is no human caused global warming. It is just hot and dry for no reason. If you are worried about “them” knowing how much water you are using, wear an aluminum hat. I get it now. :-)

    AGW theory has been predicting the drying out of CA and Brazil since Gore put his book out. Now that it is happening isn’t it time to admit the obvious?

    • seth datta

      Human global warming and peak oil are fabricated scams to give excuses as to why we should consume less and the evil elite should consume more. They are all lies. Any global temperature changes are due to normal variations, but some environmental problems are caused by the chemtrils the elite keep seeding into the atmosphere.

      • pintada37

        Heard that before. Have fun with it.

        Do you wear the tinfoil under another hat, or just out in the open? From the comment, I guess it is pretty much in the open.

  • Not Sure

    Oklahoma, which is probably the red-est state in the union, is already well under way with it’s switch to smart electric meters. The major metro areas will be completed by this fall along with smaller cities throughout the state.

    • seth datta

      Its an evil plan for control, mimicked in all western nations, particularly the Anglo ones. After all, you have to control your enemies. The corporations and banks own all countries in a form of neo-Colonialism; so the more ‘profitable’ places have to be controlled the most, before a global Communism has been achieved.

      Communism has always been an evil ideology that leads to much death and will result in a global holocaust.

      • Priszilla

        Your kind is the one that crucified Jesus because he was different.

  • seth datta

    I will claim I don’t know much, but I have researched this topic amongst many others and I have an MD. I would not take vaccines unless forced to, for employment reasons. And even then I would minimise my intake. In addition to that, I would say that the eletromagnetic radiation we face on a daily basis is used as a mthod of population control as part of UN Agenda 21. It is clearly unsafe, though many such studies are buried by the wealthy elite. The radiation can make your thinking unclear and make you sick, as well as causing may other diseases.

    I’m almost certain that having a variety of devices tied into a grid, like smart meters and cellphones, can enable mass population control as if a person becomes a problem, they simply up your radiation dose etc without you knowing who is doing it, where it is coming from, or why it is being done. Of course, all this technology is meant to ‘help’ us. Well technology can be used by people at the top who are either good or bad. I’m certain God does not want us using technology to enable a subset of people to ‘be as God’, falsely mimicing the ability to determine a person’s life or death.

  • Good thing I don’t live in Calif. I have a couple handicapped kids in my home that are OCD and they both wash their hands 20 times a day and run the water 45 minutes to 1 hour each and every time they wash their hands. I try to talk to them but somehow I am the one who is crazy for not having clean hands.

    • Evil_shadow

      I dont want to be rude, but your kids will suffer as hell, if you’ll ever get water reduction.45 minutes, just to clean their hands? damn, how high is your water bill then?!

  • DJohn1

    When I was in the military many years ago, we were told to drink heavily in the case of a nuclear attack. But only something that was contained in a manner to keep radiation out(whatever that was). The NCO jokingly said that it was a really good excuse to drink beer.
    The “Smart” designation applies to many devices including some brands of television with cameras built in to the screen. So some idiot out there is planning to visit my home via the TV and observe us in various states of undress at night?
    Most of your laptops have a small wide angle tv camera built right into the laptop screen. Which means if you are online they are in your living room. Or bedroom, or anywhere else you take the laptop.
    So I am not surprised that the meter can be used for any number of purposes other than reading a digital readout of your power or gas consumption or water consumption.
    Understand that any device using electromagnetic radiation of any kind is a direct target for lightening. Here in the Midwest at certain times of year we get enormous amounts of heat lightening.
    Translated that means it is likely to follow the radio signal right back to its source and strike it with lightening. Especially if someone has not bothered to put a proper water pipe ground on the entire system.
    Which basically means that not only is the meter likely to get hit, if it is on a gas line it is likely to blow up the house with it.
    I am sure that is very rare. NOT!

  • Rukander

    “Once the groundwater is all gone”…….. the Big One will be the solution.

  • AntonioOssa

    KEEP ON FRACKING, CALIFORNIA, YOU STUPID PIECE OF DRIED $HIT STATE!

  • DB200

    “Already, police all over the country are using the data provided by
    smart meters to identify homes that are potentially growing marijuana.
    Homes that grow marijuana tend to use much more electricity than other
    homes, and so if your home is using a high level of energy that is a red
    flag for the cops.”

    Advice: install solar panels to compensate. Only works for small growers.

    We have a smart meter since December. We had electronic ones already but these weren’t fit for measuring solar energy (feeding the net). Only afterwards I found out that energy companies can put you in the black by remote control, if you have a smart meter installed. So imagine that energy is rationed for environmental reasons or whatever, and that you use more energy than allowed. The energy company can simply switch you off ……

  • SunnyFlaSnotress

    I’m all for going with alternative energy.. even if on a small scale w/solar in an apartment. I’ve been eyeing items myself, but i have numerous irons in the fire and may not be here long.

  • annie

    Looking for alternatives. I live in the most cloudy state in the country. Indiana! What’s else is their besides solar panels???

    • Priszilla

      The best is still efficiency. If you don’t need it you don’t need to buy it/ generate it.
      For rural residents there is the wind mill. If you have life stock you could collect the manure and burn the methane. Farmers in china and the Philippines are doing this.
      Just google.

  • Backwoods Engineer

    “Ultimately, smart meters are designed to be part of an entire “smart grid” that will enable government bureaucrats “’to control everything from your dishwasher to thermostat’.”

    Sigh.

    Look, I design these things for a living, and have since 1997. They don’t control JACK unless you sign up for money-saving electric peak-demand pricing. And water smart-meters (I work for the best company in the business) don’t EVER control anything — even the cutoff valve controls are separate from metering.

    Look, these things are simpler than the computer in your car. They’re just simple microcontrollers. They don’t spy on you, report to the government, or any of the bad things they are supposed to do. They just report usage for the purpose of billing. THAT’S ALL.

    • L O

      they are flawed tho…i have a smart meter on my house and get this:
      During the winter months my power bill goes up, while using the exact same amount of electricity that I do in the summer months….I heat my home with wood, and My Stove is gas.. I cant for the life of me figure out why My bill reflects an increase in consumption when the same lights,fridge, computers and Tv, water heater, are all consistent in usage..

      All I can think of, is the meter has a bottoming out point, that wont allow it to drop lower than a certain point..

      Your thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated..

      • Priszilla

        Did you check the meter? Every meter shows the units that were counted. I write down the units every Saturday.

  • I’m not supporting smart meters, but it’s funny that people worry about meter radiation & complain about it online while their body is absorbing harmful EMFs from the computer (unless they’re grounded like barefoot outdoors). The same people will keep a phone (microwave) in their pocket & sleep right by AC fields (plugged in wires)!!

    You can even sort of see the electromagnetic fields from electric motors. Just get those magnetic particles like what’s in the sand & depending how u do it the metal pieces will surround the motor proving the field is there.

  • BillRind

    all idiots in that local and state government, all they have to do is deport the 10 million illegal alien felons harboring there and the problem will go away. talk about suicidal fools. God has blinded these idiot ideologues to the point of there own safety.

    • SunnyFlaSnotress

      It’s 10,000 immigrants, not 10,000 illegals.

      • TSA_TheSexualAssault

        Illegal Aliens is the correct term. Euphemisms for treason make me ill. Deportation is not punishment, merely administrative correction. Operation Wetback II, now.

  • Dave

    Same old retarded LIES repeated over and over again.
    If you don’t like THEIR meters … Don’t buy THEIR Product

  • Tatiana Covington

    The physical reality is that California is running short. Either cut back use or go for desalination.

    • L O

      or do the unthinkable..MOVE

  • You guest it

    I agree with most articles posted here but this one makes American look they should live in absolute fear of being monitored. A little over the top paranoia here.
    Second, most of the things it can “monitor” are things I wouldn’t mind having monitored; a pot house, neighbors from “terrorist” countries packing a house over occupancy, etc. If you are breaking the law you should get caught!
    And the “health issues”…gimme a break. I work in an ER and see that crap everyday as is…100’s times a week! Let’s worry about diet, exercise, and less iPads before worrying about a government who’s gonna get ‘cha thanks to your water meter!!! Weak…

  • Bk

    Dude i been reading this for over 2 years and i am pretty confident that this guy micheal synder is a big conspiracy theorists , most of the things u talk about never come true man and now ur picking on thermostats come on man.

  • Priszilla

    Really? Go green, renewable energy, sustainability? The flag waving hymn singing people will call you satan and lynch you.

    • Go green, renewable energy, sustainability?

      One of the three is not like the others 😉

      • Priszilla

        Explain

  • NatDaHat

    Of course, at least for electricity, the consumer actually *wants* a smart meter but one they own themselves, Not one provided by the utility company. That way *you* own the hardware & the data, *you* have control over *your* energy consumption and the cost reduction opportunities that the access to that data brings. There are plenty of *hard-line* options in the private sector, particularly for business owners.

    Wireless meters are, for sure, at risk of easy(ier?) hacking and radiation emission. Get ahead of the curve, keep control, and get your own – it’ll pay for itself in a year or two as it’s amazing how motivated you are to unplug that zombie charger when you can *see* it’s costing you money, and *exactly* how much. It’s also very nice in some places to be able to check your KWh usage against utility company ‘estimates’…

    The libertarian, free market solution to the problem of *forced* smart meter installation is already here and is coming from the smaller independent meter manufacturers/distributors. They are under the radar but they’re there.

    Imagine the following conversation:
    Utility company: “You HAVE to have a smart meter!”
    Consumer: “Er… Yeah. I have one already, thank you …*and* it seems to be more accurate than yours.”
    Utility company: “I…um……”

    A MUCH better position to be in methinks. Bend like the reed and all that, especially if the tech is coming down the line anyway. I’m calling it Met(er) Neutrality 😀

    Plus, especially if you are agnostic about climate change, won’t it be fun to be able to actually be able to demonstrate better energy efficiency commitment and performance than the greasiest of drum circles? All while saving yourself, and/or your company, lots of money. 😉

  • sharonsj

    My electric company sent me an email, telling me that I use more electricity than my neighbors. But they didn’t ask why (it’s because I can’t always get a propane delivery and using electric heaters are my only option). Now I’m wondering if the electric company passes this info to the cops.

    As for water meters, I moved out of New York just before they were installed. I was told that everyone with a meter would receive a bill for a minimum fee–and it had nothing to do with how much water you did or didn’t use. So I think these meters are just another way to squeeze more money out of the 99%.

    • El Pollo de Oro

      Sharonsj: in The Banana Republic of America, most Americans are now considered enemy combatants by the military junta. Even the most innocent behavior, like using a lot of electricity, arouses suspicion. Someone who uses an electric stove instead of a gas stove or electric heat instead of gas heat could be considered “suspicious.” But according to the neocons, it’s all for our own protection. Yeah right……just as Pinochet “protected” Chile and Trujillo “protected” La República Dominicana.

      • RageHard84

        Neocons? Aren’t liberals just as guilty?

    • Priszilla

      In England people grow Marihuana in terraced houses. They are discovered by their high electricity bills for the grow lamps.

  • GSOB

    Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind

  • old fart

    old fart

  • Georgiaboy61

    Re: “Smart Meters: Enforcement Of Mandatory Water Restrictions Is Only Just The Beginning”

    Will the homes of the wealthy, powerful and politically-connected have “smart meters” in them? Something tells me that they will not.

  • GetReal4U2

    big brother is alive and watching…

  • FactNotFiction

    Read the brilliant book: “BEHIND THE GREEN MASK” by ROSA KOIRE for a real understanding of the true agenda. Warning – this book will change your way of seeing the world. An honest book.

  • Thomas D Guastavino

    If California has to much sun and to little water then what about solar powered desalinization, unless of course it produces to little water for the cost. Any engineers out there who could answer this question.?

  • Gov ruining the country

    we always hear government this and that, but the government is really people like you and me. american’s are doing this to each other and a country divided cannot last. as the song goes, it was allllll for the money…

  • Joel Leshinsky

    Your so wrong we have the solution, atmospheric water geberators. We’ve been doing it for years around the world

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