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Society Is Crumbling Right In Front Of Our Eyes And Banning Guns Won’t Help

What in the world is happening to America?  I have written many articles about how society is crumbling right in front of our eyes, but now it is getting to the point where people are going to be afraid to go to school or go shopping at the mall.  Just consider what has happened over the past week.  Adam Lanza savagely murdered 20 children and 6 adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut.  42-year-old Marcus Gurrola threatened to shoot innocent shoppers and fired off more than 50 rounds in the parking lot of Fashion Island Mall in Newport Beach, California.  After police apprehended him, he told them that he "was unhappy with life".  Earlier in the week, a crazy man wearing a hockey mask and armed with a semi-automatic rifle opened fire on the second floor of a mall in Happy Valley, Oregon.  He killed two people and injured a third.  On Saturday morning, a lone gunman walked into a hospital in Alabama and opened fire.  He killed one police officer and two hospital employees before being gunned down by another police officer.  So have we now reached the point where every school, every mall and every hospital is going to need armed security?  How will society function efficiently if everyone is constantly worried about mass murderers?

In response to the horrible tragedy in Connecticut, many in the mainstream media are suggesting that much stricter gun laws are the obvious solution.

After all, if we get rid of all the guns these crazy people won't be able to commit these kinds of crimes, right?

Unfortunately, that is not how it works.  The criminals don't obey gun control laws.  Banning guns will just take them out of the hands of law-abiding American citizens that just want to protect their own families.

Adam Lanza didn't let the strict gun control laws up in Connecticut stop him from what he wanted to do.  Connecticut already has some of the strictest gun laws in the nation, and Adam Lanza broke at least three of them.

However, if there had been some armed security officers or some armed teachers at that school, they may have had a chance to protect those dear little children from being brutally gunned down.

If gun control was really the solution to our problems, then cities that have implemented strict gun control laws should be some of the safest in the entire country.

But sadly, just the opposite is true.

For example, Chicago has very strict gun laws.  But 10 people were shot in the city of Chicago on Friday alone.  Chicago is now considered to be "the deadliest global city", and the murder rate in Chicago is about 25 percent higher than it was last year.

So has gun control turned Chicago into a utopia?

Of course not.

And it won't solve our problems on a national level either.

You can find more statistics about the futility of gun control right here.

Well, how would things be if we did just the opposite and everyone had a gun?

Would gun crime go through the roof?

That is what liberals were warning of when the city of Kennesaw, Georgia passed a law requiring every home to have a gun.  But instead of disaster, the results turned out to be very impressive...

In March 1982, 25 years ago, the small town of Kennesaw – responding to a handgun ban in Morton Grove, Ill. – unanimously passed an ordinance requiring each head of household to own and maintain a gun. Since then, despite dire predictions of “Wild West” showdowns and increased violence and accidents, not a single resident has been involved in a fatal shooting – as a victim, attacker or defender.

The crime rate initially plummeted for several years after the passage of the ordinance, with the 2005 per capita crime rate actually significantly lower than it was in 1981, the year before passage of the law.

Prior to enactment of the law, Kennesaw had a population of just 5,242 but a crime rate significantly higher (4,332 per 100,000) than the national average (3,899 per 100,000). The latest statistics available – for the year 2005 – show the rate at 2,027 per 100,000. Meanwhile, the population has skyrocketed to 28,189.

When criminals know that everyone has guns, they are much less likely to try something.  And often armed citizens are able to prevent potential mass murderers from doing more damage.  You can find several examples of this right here.

But of course most of our politicians are not interested in common sense.  Instead, they are obsessed with the idea that gun control will make our country "safe" again.

Senator Diane Feinstein says that she is ready to introduce a strict gun control bill in January that will "ban the sale, the transfer, the importation and the possession" of many types of firearms.

Will such a law keep the criminals from getting guns?

No way.  Just look at what is happening with the cartels down in Mexico.  The criminals are always able to get guns.

If our "leaders" were really interested in stopping these mass murders, they would take a look at the role that mind-altering pharmaceutical drugs play in these incidents.  If you look at the mass murders that have occurred over the past several decades, in the vast majority of them the murderer had been using mind-altering pharmaceutical drugs...

The Institute for Safe Medication Practices (ISMP) has raised concerns about severe acts of violence as side effects of anti-psychotic and antidepressant drugs not only on individuals but on society as well.

Just a month ago PRWeb described drug induced violence as "medicine's best kept secret." 

And the Citizens Commission on Human Rights International (CCHRI) is calling for a federal investigation on its web page which links no less than 14 mass killings to the use of psychiatric drugs such as Prozac and Paxil.

And guess what?

According to the Washington Post, one neighbor says that Adam Lanza was "on medication".

But will our politicians ever consider a law against such drugs?

Of course not.  The big corporations that produce those drugs give mountains of money to the campaign funds of our politicians.

So the focus of the debate will remain on guns.

And a lot of liberals would have us believe that our society could be transformed into some type of "utopia" if we could just get rid of all the guns.

Unfortunately, that is simply not true.  Our society is in an advanced state of moral decay, and this moral decay is manifesting in our society in thousands of different ways.  The corruption runs from the highest levels of society all the way down to the lowest.

For those that believe that gun control would somehow "fix America", I have some questions for you...

Down in Texas, one set of parents kept their 10-year-old son locked in a bedroom and only fed him bread and water for months.  Eventually he died of starvation and they dumped his body in a creek.

Would banning guns have kept that from happening?

A pastor in north Texas was recently assaulted by an enraged man who beat him to death with an electric guitar.

Would banning guns have kept that from happening?

Police up in New Jersey say that a man kept his girlfriend padlocked in a bedroom for most of the last 10 years.

Would banning guns have kept that from happening?

A 31-year-old man up in Canada was found guilty of raping an 8-year-old girl, breaking 16 of her bones and smashing her in the face with a hammer.

Would banning guns have kept that from happening?

According to the FBI, a New York City police officer is being accused of “planning the kidnap, rape, torture and cannibilization of a number of women”.

Would banning guns have kept that from happening?

A Secret Service officer that had been assigned to protect Joe Biden’s residence has been charged with sexually assaulting a 14-year-old girl.

Would banning guns have kept that from happening?

Over in Texas, a very sick 29-year-old man stabbed his girlfriend to death and then burned his one-year-old baby alive because she had gone to court and filed for child support.

Would banning guns have kept that from happening?

Over in Utah, a 21-year-old man is accused of stabbing his grandmother 111 times and then removing her organs with a knife.

Would banning guns have kept that from happening?

There are more than 3 million reports of child abuse in the United States every single year.

Would banning guns keep that from happening?

An average of five children die as a result of child abuse in the United States every single day.

Would banning guns keep that from happening?

The United States has the highest child abuse death rate on the entire globe.

Would banning guns keep that from happening?

It is estimated that 500,000 Americans that will be born this year will be sexually abused before they turn 18.

Would banning guns keep that from happening?

In the United States today, it is estimated that one out of every four girls is sexually abused before they become adults.

Would banning guns keep that from happening?

If there was a way to take all of the guns away from all of the criminals, I would be all in favor of it.  Unfortunately, no government on the planet has been able to do that.

Instead, we have seen that criminals thrive whenever gun bans are instituted and the guns are taken away from law-abiding citizens.

But the bottom line is that our social decay will not be solved either by more guns or less guns.

Our social decay is the result of decades of bad decisions.  We have pushed morality out of our schools, out of government and out of almost every aspect of public life.  Now we are experiencing the bitter fruit of those decisions.

And this is not a problem that our government is going to be able to fix.  Violent crime increased by 18 percent in 2011, and this is just the beginning.

As our economy gets even worse, the rot and decay that have been eating away the foundations of America are going to become even more evident.  The number of Americans living in poverty grows with each passing day, and millions upon millions of people are becoming very desperate.

Desperate people do desperate things, and crime, rioting and looting are going to become commonplace in the United States in the years ahead.

So you can pretend that the government is going to be able to keep our society from crumbling all you want, but that is not going to help you when a gang of desperate criminals has invaded your home and is attacking your family.

We definitely should mourn for the victims in Connecticut.  It was a horrible national tragedy.

But this is just the beginning.  The fabric of our society is coming apart at the seams.  The feeling of safety and security that we all used to take for granted has been shattered, and the streets of America are going to steadily become much more dangerous.

I hope that you are ready.

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  • Luke

    I’m from Australia (Very tight gun controls) and I have travelled to Canada, UK, Israel and Sweeden. I picked those countries out of all the ones I have travelled too for a reason – Canada, Israel and Sweeden have what I would call relaxed gun laws – it isn’t hard to get one. UK and Australia have very tight gun laws. None of the 4 countries and my own have major issues with gun related crime. I don’t think guns are the problem.

    I think the US just has a lot of lunatics.

    None of our schools (and mostly in the countries above as well) have armed guards, in fact even security guards for that matter.
    Gun related crimes in these 5 countries is less then 100/year or far less
    Gun toting lunatics occur about once every 20years in these countries.
    Gun debates rarely, if ever, form a part of an everyday conversation in these countries.

    There is something wrong with your country and it isn’t guns. Perhaps you should be looking at what causes these lunatics rather then how the did the deed.

    • A.S.

      Ban psychotic pharmaceuticals — make all of them illegal. That is what causes the problem!

      • A.S.

        And btw–what do all of these mass murderers have in common:
        1. they are on very heavy pharmaceuticals to supposedly cure various psychotic behavior, mental illnesses, depression (in actually depression increases by taking these)
        2. they are loners
        3. everyone always says, “he was such a nice, energetic, funny person…” There must be at least one person that said something very negative (but not destructive behavior), either wise, that in itself sounds suspicious.

        • Mondobeyondo

          And that.. THAT seems to be a common theme in all these incidents. “He was such a quiet person”…”he was a loner”…”not the type of person who would never hurt anyone”, etc. How do you tell the difference between a social hermit, and one who has other nefarious plans in mind? It’s scary.

          • Tim

            There are many people in this world who are very shy or introverted by nature. That’s the way God made them. Does that mean that they’re prone to committing heinous acts like these? I don’t think so. There is nothing wrong with preferring to be by oneself.

          • Ralfine

            Highly Sensitive Person (HSP) – nothing wrong with them, they just can’t cope with pressure. Give them space and quiet, engage them, befriend them, and they will be fine.

            But put them under immense pressure and they will explode. And “immense” could mean just the current usual high pressure to deliver on deadlines, and work on millions of jobs the same time (because everybody else has been fired to save money) and answer thousands of questions (because nobody takes the time anymore to read up) and work for dozens opposing priorities.

            But usually those guys are fired first because they can’t deliver on deadlines, or they take too long to finish the job with a high quality or to the customer’s satisfaction.

      • Orange Jean

        One of the major problems with pharmaceuticals is that a LOT of them that are not labelled as psychotic pharmaceuticals are other types of drugs that have “side effects” of causing mental health problems. I just recently had my doctor prescribe a pain killer (for chronic arthritis pain) that she said was “safer” than asperin or ibuprophen… but the patient information sheet included things like causing suicidal thoughts and hallucinations, possible addiction even with one dose, severe adverse interactions with numerous other drugs, seizures, possibly even death.

        Some doctor’s tend to poo-poo side effect warnings, I do not – I research carefully before putting anything in my mouth and in this case – I did not and told my doctor forget it and why. But how many are trusting? BTW I don’t blame my doctor entirely as she was following what the guidelines for that drug said – only problem is the FDA allowed this drug in and later posted warnings, but hasn’t taken it off the market.

    • El Pollo de Oro

      Luke: You’re absolutely right. The Banana Republic of America (formerly the USA) does have a lot of lunatics, and tighter gun control laws will not change that. In the wake of Adam Lanza’s killing spree, Democrats will blame the NRA and push for stricter gun control, while Republican neocons (who are really fascists, not conservatives) will call for an expansion of the police state (that is, expand the powers of the Patriot Act, the NDAA and the TSA). But neither will make the country safer. This is a very dysfunctional, violent country, and gun control will not make it any less dysfunctional or any less violent. In fact, the violence will grow much worse as the BRA’s economy goes from bad to worse and this banana republic sinks deeper and deeper into financial misery. Americans who are unhinged to begin with will snap, and God help those of us who happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

      • apocalipsenow

        Republicans will blame mexican cartels for poisoning their children brains with drugs and start a new invasion to ‘protect their freedom’. (all this coordinated by El Chapo).

    • William Burke

      What CAUSES them? SSRIs, in every case I’ve looked at. It’s not like nobody knows. Just you.

    • disqus_so6VbPnXpx

      Very good observation. Many of those lunatics end up in public office. Wish we could learn more from some of these other countries. However, didn’t Australia make quite a blunder when they banned all firearms a number of years ago??? I understand that didn’t make matters any better.

  • dirtydave

    I agree Luke…There is something wrong with our country. We are a war loving,butt kicking,military worshiping,gun loving bunch of bad ass’s. Many of us have been completely dumbed down by the media ,our government and our education system into thinking a gun usually will solve are problems.

  • SD Mule

    Hey Michael,

    Some of your examples of atrocities with the subsequent question, ” Would banning guns have prevented this from happening?” are ridiculous. A NY cop HAS a gun and he is the one committing the crime. A Secret Service agent HAS a gun and he is the one committing the crime. Could the gun in their possession have been helpful in the committing of their crimes? Quite possible. If having a gun was the answer to all of the violent issues in society then the Old West of the 1800′s should have been the safest time in the history of our country. There were still plenty of deaths, criminals, cheats, thieves, and nefarious individuals in a time when most people were armed. They still had jails, local and federal law officers, judges, courts, ect. I am all for Freedom and Liberty, which means owning as many guns as one desires but arming a bunch of knucklehead teachers, having armed security guards, metal detectors, and turning schools into virtual prisons does not ring of Freedom and Liberty. These are the same stupid fear responses that ushered in the DHS, the Patriot Act, and a myriad of other Liberty stealing acts by our government after 911. Why do people always choose MORE government as a solution?? We need LESS government not more!! That means more personal responsibility for your life. Any time your asking for more laws you are asking for LESS Freedom and Liberty! You will never be able to legislate a perfectly safe life but you will be able to legislate away any and all FREEDOM and LIBERTY!! Think beyond the surface, there are many layers to these types of events.

    • shogun_01

      he never stated anything about increasing goverment, or turning schools into prisons.

      • SD Mule

        shogun_01,

        Creating laws against drugs IS more government!! I am not a fan of pharmaceutical drugs so I choose not to take them. Personal responsibility.
        Armed security guards and/or armed teachers on a campus create an atmosphere where we are only missing guard towers, orange jumpsuits, and a welcome to Folsom sign. It is certainly not an atmosphere conducive to impressing the value of Freedom, Liberty, and personal responsibility to young minds.

        • Shogun_01

          Israeli teachers are armed in case of emergency, I don’t see their schools being turned into “prisons” as you so say.

          And as for pharmaceuticals, it might be personal responsibility. But let’s look at it this way. You feel you need help so you seek it. Your doctors prescribe anti-depressants, anti-anxiety pills, anti whatever. The medication that you are prescribed has serious side effects, that are never really addressed. The pharmaceutical companies should be held accountable for the substances that are put into the medication, and these companies are SUPPOSED to be regulated by the federal goverment. So no one does their jobs, and everything stays the same. Or as you said yourself, don’t take medication (and watch as your mental health problem gets worse). As for more goverment. Don’t know where you are reading this from.

          • SD Mule

            I can’t speak to the state of schools in Israel because I have never been there, nor do I plan to go there. I do know that I attended schools in Virginia, Florida, Illinois, and California and there were not any armed teachers or security guards nor any shootouts. Is society different now than when I went to school? Yes. Would I wish to send my children to a school with armed teachers and/or security guards? NO. Once again, personal responsibility. I will accept the results of my decision.
            As far as taking pills prescribed by a doctor, once again, personal responsibility. Educate yourself about the drugs you are putting into your body. There are alternatives to going to AMA doctors, accept the responsibility for your life. If you put your health into someone else’s hands that is your choice, but accept the results that go along with that. Or don’t and be like everybody else. You can blame the world for all of your issues if you desire, but you will still have the issues.

        • DownWithLibs

          Remember that the next time you are in a Mall and are unfortunate enough to be in the next “killing field”, as you scramble for cover, I bet you will be praying for some responsible armed citizen to come to your rescue!!!

          • SD Mule

            Remember what?? Taking pharmaceuticals, armed teachers/ security guards in schools?? Not sure what I am supposed to remember when I am in a mall “killing field”!! Enlighten me.

    • MichaelfromTheEconomicCollapse

      Any gun ban would not take them away from law enforcement authorities.

      Michael

  • Colin

    I think one of the issues with this country is that it is easier for a person to buy a gun than get medical treatment for a mental illness or disability. I can attest to this as I am mentally disabled person. Some people who have mental issues, like me, are poor, and for them, as well as I, we have limited options. The mental health clinic is staffed by people who are burnt out and number, and, as they see so many faces, new and old, the patients become a blur. The staff don’t have the time to adequately treat patients, and they operate on autopilot. Half of the time spent in the office is them reading their notes so that they can remember you. When I told my psychiatrist that my medications weren’t working, he upped the dosage on one and would have upped the dosage on the other but was prevented by FDA restrictions. I felt that he didn’t listen to me. As I put in a request for a new doctor, I was informed that in most cases that people are denied. I was also told that the SOP was, that when medications weren’t working, to up the dosage. When I didn’t show up, for I am confrontational averse, this last week for an appointment with this man, no one from the office called to see why I didn’t show up.

    I feel that Adam Lanza’s mother did the worst thing she could do to a mentally ill child – she isolated him from the community. Yes, he was already isolated from others when about in society. She pulled him out of school because of issues he had there, and attempted to home school herself.. Her approach to his issues ended in her death and in the deaths of 27 others.

    • davidmpark

      AMEN! My wife has a severe traumatic brain injury and getting effective treatment while rearing a young family has been very difficult.

  • Day2Day

    What we need is love and compassion.

    What does the Bible say about love?

    * It casts out fear

    * It will cover a multitude of sins

    * It is the greatest virtue

    And so, where is the love in a violent society?
    Where is the love in gangsta rap?
    where is the love in heavy metal?
    where is the love in rated R/MA movies?
    where is the love in violent video games?

    Without love we are cursed, and the remedy, is the love of Jesus.

    Amen

    • DV8 2XL

      yes, because delusional belief in fairy tales always helps. The bible is the last place you’ll find love or morality, considering the millions within that book god himself has killed

      • Handog

        Thank you. Micheal needed one more example.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=837307271 Jim Rogers

        Wow DV8, what a string of phenomenally ignorant arrogant statements! If you actually spent any time looking into it, you’ll find the Bible exacting and truthful, the factual proof of the New Testament books – eye witness affidavits by writers who stuck with their stories for the remainders of their lives and endured torturous deaths without changing, and MANY references in writings outside of the Bible! Don’t waste your time trying to argue about telephone-game of re-re-re-translations, New Testament Bible translators go back to the original Greek copies, some over 1900 years old, and as far as the Old Testament – the Tenakh, try the 2000+ year old Hebrew Dead Sea Scrolls as one example.

        About those “millions killed” from the Old Testament; are you standing up for the civilizations that worshiped their gods by sacrificing live babies to be roasted alive in the glowing hands of bronze statues of Molech standing in bonfires – compare that to the millions of aborted American babies sacrificed to the gods of selfishness and convenience, and the millions killed by atheist communist governments in the 20th century! Where is your morality on those?

        Wanna talk myths and fairy tales? How about the fantasy of spontaneous life evolving out of the primordial goo – so absurdly proven impossible it’s been abandoned for the white flag of the even more ridiculous “panspermia” among others! Evolution is not science, it is neither reproducible nor observable, and it takes CONSIDERABLY MORE FAITH to believe those myths – I place my faith in the proven truthful eyewitness writings of the Bible, while you PLACE YOUR FAITH in biased fungible theories and ESPECIALLY FAITH IN THE PEOPLE WHO PROPOSE THEM!

        • sharonsj

          Jim, the gospels are not written by eyewitnesses and contradict each other. That aside, the problem in the U.S. is a combination of drugs and the pressures of just daily living. We have turned into a third world country where most of our citizens are very angry but are unable or unwilling to understand why they are angry. So they take out their anger on the wrong people.

          • WM

            What documentation do you have to prove your presupposition that the Gospels were NOT written by eyewitnesses???? What contradictions are you specifically referring to???

            I would encourage you to do a open hearted, open minded study on Textural Criticism and after you have done that, then slets talk again, ok?

          • DownWithLibs

            You know that she claims to be a soothsayer.

          • yeastfrombackeast

            Sharonsj….who were the religious scholars that taught you the word of God is not the word of God? Did you attend a seminary to learn this or is it just what your friends say? Please cease making such confident assursions about things you obviously know nothing about.

          • yeastfrombackeast

            You’ve fallen into the same trap that Adam & Eve did in the garden of Eden. When the tempter came to them what was the first thing he said to them? I’ll tell you. He said “Hath God said?…..” Get them to doubt Gods word and you can talk them into anything.

        • http://www.appertunity.com Appertunity Admin

          Lol comments like this are why I’m glad we actually have a good education system in the UK you people are hilarious. Sky fairies lol

        • http://www.appertunity.com Appertunity Admin

          Fortunately we no longer follow much of what the bible says as we know that is is wrong & no longer applies to modern life. You could pick any religious text and claim its true. Do a bit of research, look at facts & not what you wish we’re true. That’s the difference between science and blind belief.

          “If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.” (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)

          “…whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her” (Mark 10:11 & Luke 16:18)

          “You shall not breed together two kinds of your cattle; you shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor wear a garment upon you of two kinds of material mixed together.” (Leviticus 19:19)

          “Wives should be subordinate to their husbands as to the Lord.” (Ephesians 5:22)

          “Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death.” (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

          “However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.” (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

          We don’t follow or believe in this nonsense anymore

    • Ralfine

      Wrong questions.

      Where is the love of the parents if the kids find refuge in gangs,TV, video games?

      And where are the grandparents?
      Where are the aunts, uncles and cousins?

      • yeastfrombackeast

        We’re suffering from cultural rot due to spiritual deadness. There are those who can “cut a rug” in Church and dance before the Lord on Sunday, who can then go right back to the clubs, pimping themselves out for a few bucks, or stab or shoot someone for a few bucks on Monday through Saturday, and then cut a rug at church again on Sunday. Parents lost control a long time ago. As Tom Arnolds character in the movie “True lies” said to Arnold Schwarteneggers character, “You aren’t your kids parents anymore. They’re being raised by Madonna and Axel Rose.” The garbage they’re taught in public schools trumps Mom and Dads or Grandma and Grandpas words of wisdom.

        • Ralfine

          My Sis never dumped their kids at the school gate. She and her hubby remained in charge. School is just for education, like reading and calculating. And transferring knowledge like who was the last king.

          Everything else, like brushing teeth and cleaning shoes, and vacuuming, and doing the dishes and doing home work and sticking that thermometer into the body is done at home. And grandpa and grandma are there for the fun parts, like fishing, digging out earthworms, where to find the fish, how to clean and cook it, watching butterflies and how to distinguish oak and beech and birch.

          You don’t just lose control. You give it up.

  • chuck

    When seconds count, the police are just minutes away. The Kennesaw GA experiment proves that more guns in the hands of law-abiding, mentally-stable people IS the answer. Similarly, everyone in Switzerland owns high-powered rifles (by government mandate) , and their gun violence rate is miniscule The key is to have thorough screening of applicants for concealed carry permits. I live in Indiana, where it is far too easy to obtain such a permit. Nevertheless, the vast majority of gun violence here is committed by people without such permits.

    Instead of all the money spent on the war against guns, the Federal government could spend their money (courtesy of China et al.) on programs for teaching gun safety and gun use skills for self-defense. A competent gun carrier in that school in CT, could have limited the damage. We could eliminate former combat veteran unemployment tomorrow by hiring these guys as armed school security guards.

    • apocalipsenow

      Self defense is a paranoid statement. Did you know?

      • Rog

        When governments take away the right to self defense they take away the right to life. There is nothing paranoid about it.

        • Ralfine

          When you look into that gun barrel it is a bit late for self defense.

  • Mondobeyondo

    The problem is not guns specifically. The problem is our society.
    The behavior of our people, are just a by-product of that society. For better, or for worse.
    Did you hear about that massacre in April of 1883 where a 14 year old shot up a classroom in New York City? No? Me neither!!! Because such things didn’t happen back then!
    We’ve had guns for hundreds of years in this country, and we’ve never seen anything like this in our society. So why now??

    Is this a modern day phenomenom? I don’t have the numbers to prove how many firearms were here in the U.S. in 1940, or 1960. But the average citizen certainly didn’t commit or hear of such awful atrocities back then.They did happen, though. The 1966 University of Texas murders (where Arthur Bremer shot from the University of Texas clock tower) was an anomaly though. But certainly not among high school students, much less [GASP!!] elementary school students.

    This certainly does indeed seem like a modern-day phenomenon – dropping off or picking up our children from school, going to church, shooting up a kindergarden class, etc should not be a life threatening event!!

    Why is this happening? Look around you. Spend time with a teenager around you. Watch television around you.Play video games around you. Go to movies around you. Pay attention, you might just find some answers.

    • Mondobeyondo

      I meant to say “going to a kindergarten class”…. whoops!
      I’m allowed one mistake a month, right?

    • ekaneti

      You mean Charles Whitman not Arthur Bremer

      • Mondobeyondo

        You are correct, it was Charles Whitman. Trying to remember who Arthur Bremer shot. It’s gotten so bad, you can’t even remember the killers anymore.

        • niftypow

          Arthur Bremmer Shot Gov. Wallace back in 1971 if I’m not mistaken.

    • Patriot

      You are so right sir, I grew up through the late 50′s as a youth and never heard of the kind of carnage that we hear of today. America is sick. I guess ripping the 10 Commandments out of shools and replcaing them with humanism, realtivism and brainwashing youth to believe that we are just evolved animals and there is no God and no accountability and no right and wrong…. teaching kids that they are the creatED and that God is the creatOR, and that he commands us “not to murder” may be a good thing to introduce to young minds, no?

  • Mondobeyondo

    Beginning of story:

    Gun control?…. There are far, far too many firearms in the United States for them to ever been successfully banned. In many cases, it’s easier to buy a Glock than it is to buy a Marlboro, um pack of Marlboros.

    End of story.

  • richard

    The problem is with these mass killings is the media. You have one big killing and then 10 other guys want to hit the big time. When we have a killing like we just had they should even mention the shooters name. Personally there are a lot more important things going on then to make this a 3 ring circus for a week or two. Also if we ever come to the point where the government tries to band guns you will see a civil war.

    • DownWithLibs

      Your first sentence just hit the nail on the head!!! These crazies know that whether or not they survive, the will be famous… because of media sensationalism. I believe part of the cure would be to announce that “someone” did a particular act in a place and refuse to show a picture of said “someone”. No name, no picture, no more crap like we have seen. At least we can hope that it will change some minds.

  • davidmpark

    Okay, I’m gonna have to wear the Capt. Obvious uniform for a while:

    Guns didn’t cause this; guns are tools. The people willing to kill and that do kill are the problem. The politician and other kinds of insane folks that make demands of disarmament and utopia are the problem.

    News stories from CNN, MSNBC, and the like are calling for gun control. Ignoring the fact that painfully strict gun laws are on the books, that many of their talking heads and politicos aren’t enforcing those laws effectively or just selectively (usually the case). And using any crisis to further their causes and religious ideology.

    Well, they can’t actually get rid of all the guns: the black market will supply things where there is a demand. If they amazingly close down the black market, then people will turn more and more to black market manufacturers, or DIY their own which is not hard to do. So long as a person can get metal, wood, fasteners, along with either blueprints or even just the mathematical formulas… they can have limitless guns.

    The biggest problem causing this is we are not a land of freedom and opportunity – the Progressive movement ended it. What we’re dealing with is our original system of governments, with a secondary Progressive system of governments tacked onto it. This branch has gone into everything it can corrupt except for several areas that are now under considerable attack: traditional family life, Christianity, small tight groups that are anti-Progressive, and so on. What we have had is over 100 years of near purified iniquity that’s finally taking it’s toll on people. What’s interesting is that this also caught the Progressives too.

    The Progressive movement, along with the Fascists, Communists, Marxists, National Socialists, etc. knows that what we’re experiencing today is NOT the utopia they were promised: that’s why they’re always so angry and scared, and things not working anymore. They assumed that the Industrialists and the rest of the American’s would keep up being productive ATM’s to use at their leisure. The Leftist’s feel threatened now as they are the ones that instigated this decline and poor economy. They are terrified of retaliation.

    Not often talked about with the Leftist’s is their habitual need for control and dominance. Part of their belief’s is in a pecking order that must not be mentioned. It’s really fun to point it out and their behavior in public as it goes against their views of themselves as charitable, loving, and above reproach. Normally they’re delusional and criminally insane. Well, anyway, to get this dominance and to feel safe from fears of retaliation and lynching, many publicly denounce guns and call for gun control; all the while holding onto large private caches of firearms and artillery.

    I have seen many of these before I struck out after being disowned by the family. My dad had a small cache and all the while denouncing firearms. My uncles had some massive arsenals. Neighbors even had artillery and some big stuff, too. It does exists. My mentor, who’s more Right wing, has only 1; says it’s enough.

    Of all the people I’ve met on both sides of the spectrum, I think those on the Left are really the dangerous ones. The folks on the Right are blamed, but that’s Leftist’s projecting their behavior onto others. It’s almost always someone from the Left or an insane person. Those on the right can be marginalizing, exclusive, demeaning, and can cause problems but I’ve never seen them go for the kill. The Left takes what the Right does and multiplies it exponentially. I’ve only ever been shot, stabbed, assaulted, robbed, and seriously abused by those on the Left; the Right usually is apathetic and lets it happen.

    Here’s a proposition: if any politician or talking head demands gun control, they have to disclose the contents of their own weapons cache. Also, they must resign their position as they are not defending the Constitution as promised.

    • Handog

      The politicians will still have armed body guards.
      You and I on the other hand, should turn our guns in for our own safety.

      • DownWithLibs

        Oh yes, hypocrites of the highest order!!!!

      • davidmpark

        Hey yeah. I remember that bodyguard of Sen. Ted “Uncle Keg” Kennedy’s bodyguard being arrested for an illegal firearm. But… I think I’ll hold onto my guns and ammo.

        Killers gonna kill. Best we can do is defend as originally intended.

    • http://www.appertunity.com Appertunity Admin

      “The level of gun ownership world-wide is directly related to murder and suicide rates and specifically to the level of death by gunfire.” – International Correlation between gun ownership and rates of homicide and suicide.’ Professor Martin Killias, May 1993.

      The U.S. leads the world in gun ownership and therefore gun violence. It’s up to nearly 12,000 murders a year, and very few other nations come remotely close to this because very few other nations have the same level of gun ownership or the same mentality of fight fire with fire.

      It’s partly a matter of statistics, more guns in people’s hands leads to more gun crime, more gun murders, more gun suicide and more accidental gun deaths all due to an escalating arms war against the perceived threat of criminals with guns.

      Gun deaths per 100,000 population (2001):

      USA – Murder 3.98 Suicide 5.92 Other 0.36
      UK – Murder 0.15 Suicide 0.2 Other 0.03

      If you want to kill people you will find a way to do it guns or no guns but that’s not a good argument against tighter control.

      The reason NewYork and similar areas still have high gun crime despite very strict gun laws is that countless New York crimes and murders are committed with guns traced back to West Virginia & other states that have weak gun control laws.

      Mississippi, West Virginia, Kentucky, Alaska, Alabama, South Carolina, Virginia, Indiana, Nevada and Georgia are the 10 states that supply guns used in crimes at the highest rates, each supply guns at a rate more than twice the national average.

      Even if you disagree with limiting peoples ability to buy firearms simple adjustments to US gun laws will save lives.

      A ban on assault weapons and the types of weapons available for sale. Forcing every state to report all necessary mental health information to the background check system. Having consistent gun laws across the US. Closing the ‘gun show’ loophole which enables people with criminal records to avoid FBI background checks if they buy a gun from an unlicensed “private seller”.

      • davidmpark

        Uh huh. Okay what I’m hearing is gun crime goes up when there are more guns. So, take away guns and there’s no gun crime.

        I’m giggling now! This argument is weak.

        I wasn’t talking about gun shows or sellers. The black market doesn’t go through federal offices nor cares for gun bans. The black market exists to sell people what they want regardless of regulations and laws.

        You probably never heard of a guy named Phillip Luty. He was a tinkerer that came up with the popular pdf file series “Expedient Homemade Firearms”. He lived in the UK. His most popular manuals showed how to construct automatic sub-machine guns.

        And Mr. Luty isn’t the only person who’s done this. The math and diagrams are all over the net; for free in many places. There are also manuals on loading ammo, making powder, primers, and anything else people would want. Banning guns is useless. Only the law-abiding will follow the laws – anyone who wants a gun will get one if they put in the effort.

        Also, the guns used at Sandy Hook were legal. he stole from his mother and killed her: what laws will stop that? Name them. He was determined to kill. What laws can regulate his individual decision? Name them. The security at the school was useless; he went around it and got in. What laws can stop a guy breaking glass and entering a building? Name them. What you want is to change human nature into something else through legislation. Individual human beings don’t operate via legislation – they have agency. Do you propose ending what man is and forcing them into pure obedience? How?

        What you’re proposing is impossible – it violates the natural laws that man cannot legislate. We cannot fix human nature via legislation. And your statistics are merely numbers that anyone can make up. Name the source.

        And next time, use your own words and arguments rather than something compiled from leftist websites. It’s just weak.

  • LifeLongLearner71

    Banning guns is common sense, for those who wish to retain their power. It’s the most rational strategy for the federal elites, who use it to avoid a revolution, rather than fight one. Make no mistake, they will try to take your gun. It’s the only sensible choice they have, knowing what tribulation is coming.

  • tex may

    Own all the guns you want. Restrict the ammunition. Maximum purchase 5 rounds- provide a permit.

    • ekaneti

      What I’ve noticed about the gun control side is their sheer ignorance. You can make your own ammo.

    • MisterC

      You must live in not-so-merry-old england. How will a permit stop a criminal from stealing ammunition? Sorry to confuse you with logic, NOT!

  • tex may

    The 2nd amendment does not say that you have the right to buy cases of .223.

    • MisterC

      Part of “Bearing” arms is having the ability to USE the arms. Without ammo a rifle is an expensive club. The 2nd Amendment, an INDIVIDUAL RIGHT, doesn’t say anything about hunting either. The purpose of it is to ensue that the population has a means to defend itself against tyrannical government and foreign invaders.

  • Mondobeyondo

    A.L. (won’t mention his full name) may have been mentally unstable, but he got around any potential “gun control” problems easily. Just steal the weapons from a legitimate gun owner – his mother.

    Is this right? No, of course it isn’t. Any rational human being can figure that out. The problem is, that insane people (by definition!) don’t think rationally.

    • Ralfine

      Obviously, owning those guns didn’t help the mother much?

  • Yabba

    Absolute bulldust, Australia has very tough gun laws, you need to show why you NEED a gun here and if you pass the very strict criteria you are allowed one single shot rifle. Did you ever consider that the the all mighty USA is just a weird, narrow minded, callous cruel country. You all thought thought it was a fair deal to kill 200 thousand Iraqi civilians for a lie, many of them were children, but who cares they are “over there”. There is a reason why the majority of the world have no time for you people, it is because you are simply hateful, unintelligent, lazy bullies. Then I read this garbage (by a man who I thought was the exemption) and it just reiterates what I always believed, the Americans are selfish, stupid and only care for themselves. It is time to wake up to yourselves, put the drugs away, turn off the Fox news, go get a job and stop sticking your nose in other countries business. We have some Americans working in my town and believe me they are just really unlikable, arrogant people.

    • ekaneti

      I use to live in Australia and it seemed an awful lot like the USA you describe.

  • Hambone

    The incident in CT is horrible. I don’t think I’ve ever been as disturbed by a news story in my life. The scene of the crying, terrified kids leaving the school just broke my heart. I am a dad of many, and this hit me hard.

    That said, I don’t like that I’m seeing stories about the shooter’s mother being described as a “survivalist,” someone who was worried about the future of this country. She stockpiles food, has weapons… One tag-line I read suggested that her obsession with survival caused her son to do this.

    There are nuts on both sides, conservative and liberal, and it’s unfair to single out her concern for the future of this country, as that applies to many of us who do not have these issues. In fact, it may yet be our kids who one day fix this broken country. Suggesting that guns are the solitary issue or that restricting guns is the solution is irresponsible and naive.

    You may as well find her favorite radio station and suggest that all of those people should be put on watch lists.

    Politicians who are now caving to the “gun restriction” wave are pandering to people who are responding emotionally and not logically. They are shameless. I am so disgusted with our government.

  • ekaneti

    Society isn’t crumbling. Mass shootings have declined versus the 1990s and crime overall is down 33%. Abortion? Also down. Teen pregnancy? Down as well. Drug and alcoh use? Guess what also down. Car accidents and deaths? Down.

    • MichaelfromTheEconomicCollapse

      I think you need to check your statistics on some of those.

      Michael

  • TooLittleTooLate

    Up until Friday I didn’t think that they’d come for our guns. I guess I was wrong.

    I do know one thing and that is that there will be a very large backlash…. Folks in the U.S. won’t happily hand over their rifles. I also expect a very large political fight over this.

    It will be interesting to say the least…. Feinstien is already drafting up another assault weapons ban…. this legislation will not outlaw weapons that are already in public hands but, will ban all future sales of semi-auto assault type weapons. She may even get the support of some of the republicans after such a tragedy as the one we just had.

    If they can get this ban through, the next time we have a massacre, they may go for an outright ban…. they may attempt to register weapons too… we all know what happens after you get them all registered.

    Regardless of what happens on the hill, the gun grabbers are making a lot of noise at the moment… Hopefully there are enough smart folks left to keep them at bay.

    I still believe that with the government out of control and gun sales at all time highs, it will be a very hard fought fight to get an assault weapons ban through.

    The 2nd amendment isn’t to ensure we have the right to hunt….. It’s there to ensure that the population can protect itself… even if it has to protect itself from the government itself.

    • ekaneti

      They arent coming for your guns. They cant even begin to try and register guns.

      • Patriot

        Don’t say “they aren’t coming for your guns” This assumption is based on the premises that the Constitution cannot be changed and also that there is NOT a gloablist agenda to disarm America to usher in the NWO. I hope you are right, but don’t underestimate what the gubbernment is trying to do and please do not fall asleep in this time that anyone who loves freedom needs to be an involved watchman and do something to make your voice heard.

      • MisterC

        Expect importation bans(s) because this can be done without the approval of CONgress. So if you use ammo that is foreign made, stock up ASAP! They may even try to restrict online sales of ammo or have reporting requirements for vendors if you bought say over 1000 rounds.

      • yeastfrombackeast

        Sounds like what the German people said before Hitler did it. What the Russian people said before Stalin did it. What the Chinese people said before Mao did it.

    • davidmpark

      Yeah, well, it’s still good to hunt with guns. Wouldn’t get much venison without it.

  • Syrin

    Study after study after study has shown that less guns = more crime and that more guns = less crime, but as we all know, liberals are not interested in facts, figures, data or reasoning. They live in theorycraft where they just “know” how things “really” happen in direct opposition to what reality tells them. Gun ownership in Switzerland is mandatory. You read that right. One of the lower crime rates on the planet. This stuff might as well be string theory for GARY.

  • jox

    The whole world is astonished to see that a lot of Americans, some of
    them stupid and radical, but even some intelligent and sensible, pretend
    that the solution to a violent society full of murders is to have more
    guns. Michael, you normally take economic data and extract sound
    conclusions. But today you didn’t want to do an objective analysis. You
    wanted to reach a predetermined conclusion, and for this end you have
    made manipulations and tricks. What a shame. No problem, continue this
    policy, guns for everyone, a massacre every now and then, some mourning,
    and some blame over your preferred target, the media, the left, the
    government, etc, but never, ever, blame gun proliferation. You know what the
    ‘elephant in the room’ expression means?

    • ekaneti

      Since CCW laws have been passed in the USA since 1988, crime and murder have fallen by 33%

      • DownWithLibs

        Has anyone looked at how many schools on Friday DIDN’T have a mass killing? Thank you bias sensational media!!!

  • Mondobeyondo

    “Guns don’t kill people, people kill people”…

    Oh dear, not the NRA National Anthem again. They sing this every time something like this happens.

    Okay. The last time I saw an AR-15 get up off the shelf by itself, and start randomly shooting people, was.. never. So in a sense, that’s correct.

    BUT…a human being holding a semi-auto on his shoulder, has the potential to knock off a criminal or two. That’s also correct.

    A person holding a knife can stab you to death. That’s correct as well.

    If the teachers in Newtown had firearms, would that have made a difference? In my opinion, no. The shooter [allegedly] shot his victims with a semi-auto rifle So, who has the advantage? The cynic/liberal would say, “It doesn’t matter, you’re dead no matter how they get ya”. The conservatives will say, “Bring a knife to a gunfight…”

    Round and round it goes, where it stops, nobody knows, but it has GOT to stop somewhere!! There has to be an answer, somehow. Because if there isn’t, you’re going to hear about the next shooting, and the next one, and the next one. and the next one…

    • K

      Yes you will hear about it again and again. Until we have the courage to do something about the mentally ill. Get treatment for those that can be helped. And isolate the ones we can not help. This Country is turning into people who cut their arm, and slap a bandage on their foreheads.

  • energizedmortal

    my generation is mentally disturbed. We have been on the internet since 8 years old watching things the older generations have never seen and we begin to think that it is normal! You turn on the tv and most reality shows promote having a nice big house, diamonds, and dream career. Then you go out into the world and barely land a service job at 10 an hour. In poorer parts of the world everyone is dead broke and you can’t tell the difference. In America you see a bent lee roll down times square while your on your way to your job at burger king.

  • Maki

    medication + video games= Crumbling society

  • apocalipsenow

    Crazy gringos just like murdering people all over the world, why wouldn’t they like murdering their own? They are natural born killers.

  • http://twitter.com/Madwriter1970 Danny Adams

    Switzerland follows the “everyone has a gun” policy, sort of, and their gun violence is minimal. But they’re also proactive in that they have extremely thorough background checks, including mental health. They have close to 500,000 assault weapons in private hands there, but that’s still a far cry from the total adult population.

  • Thomas Jefferson

    Just try and take our guns Obama. See what happens.

  • Ralfine

    So, how does the right to have guns help all those abused children?

  • Ralfine

    The 2nd amendment mentions arms, but says nothing about hands and trigger fingers.

    • Mondobeyondo

      Depends on whose hands and trigger fingers those arms (firearms.. not arms as in biceps, triceps, etc.) are attached to. In the hand of a policeman, it’s a good thing. In the hands of a madman… that’s a bad thing, and quite often a downright awful thing.

  • El Pollo de Oro

    Oops, typo. That should say, “the failed two-party system,” not “the failed thirty party system.” Ha ha! In the BRA, we don’t even have three major parties, let alone 30.

  • leeholsen

    and the CT story is the only thing getting covered ??? there is story after story of people doing unspeakable things and most still think the US has minor problems. boy, its going to be bad when the govt cant paper over things with more debt.

  • Idle

    I read your website not because I agree with your ideas, but because is a good thing to listen, and is a good thing to know how is thinking a part of the American citizens.

    I am living in a country, from EU, in which the possession of guns are very strict. You can not carry guns, and you have not permission to own a gun unless is well justified. Only policeman and such institutions have permission to carry guns, and common citizen can not own guns unless they are hunters. I am a hunter myself, and I own a shotgun, and I can tell you, that gun is kept in a metallic locker and ammunition in other metallic locker, and I am the only one who have the keys from those lockers. I can not carry this gun unless I am going tu hunt. The police knows who is a hunter and, how many guns do you have, and they check if you are keeping them locked. If you want to buy a gun for hunting you have to follow a school of firearms and make a lot of medical exams, including a psychiatric and physiologic one. And those medical exams are repeated from time to time. I think this is a strict control.

    OK, so how many mass murders did happened in my country? None. Why? I don’t know, but I think a strict control may help. If those guns were locked, that disturbed boy couldn’t do anything. I didn’t heard of a mass murder done with a knife or an axe. The chance to stop someone threatening with a knife is much higher/probable.

    In a civilized country you don’t need to protect yourself with a firearm. Shooting is supposed to be only for fun and hunting.

  • DownWithLibs

    That’s it, I’m moving to Kennesaw!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Palladino/100001624813101 Joe Palladino

    Why didn’t God save the children?

    How could he? He was banned from the schools years ago.

    Reap what you sow America… Reap.

    • DownWithLibs

      Yes, where God has been booted from, satan will make itself at home.

  • Tonto Weaver

    I can tell everyone right now, the intentional death of God and family brought on by our government is the REASON we are in such a fix today. It is no wonder that a nation that condemns God and family is in the awful position as we find ourselves today. It has NOTHING to do with guns and everything to do with how our society has fallen. Bring back God and the Bible and conservative family values and I guarantee this wanton destruction and disrespect for human life abates.

  • college kid

    I want to know what Gary2 thinks of this.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Palladino/100001624813101 Joe Palladino

      Why? You enjoy listening to the mentally ill?

  • http://www.facebook.com/robert.burns.355744 Robert Burns

    Watch out for the boogy man this year… He’s more real than Santa!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tatiana-Covington/100002159242044 Tatiana Covington

    What makes people think that they are all that important?

  • http://karmaeconomics.blogspot.com/ lavista4u

    People WAKE THE F**CK UP…AGAIN WAKE THE F**CK UP…..This has nothing whatsoever to do with “gun control”. Its guaranteed guns will never ever be banned in America. The latest series of shooting is part of Hegelian Dialect.

    The controlled opposition is mis-leading Americans on what their true intention is.

    The elites have bigger evil agenda for Americans. Its not to ban guns but to introduce US military, UN “peace keeping” force on to the streets of America. I can write this with my hearts blood. This is what is about to happen. Now, the sheeps will themselves want US military on ground, however, since, US troops are “busy” fighting useless wars abroad, they will take the help of UN “Peace Keeping Force” to patrol American streets….which will includes troops from China, India and Russia. “lunatics” “psychos” and people on “meds” are just excuses to bring in the US military. WAKE THE F**CK UP.

    Don’t fall into the “drama” of “gun control” Its just a distraction…The real purpose is to bring Army to US soil.

  • Veritae

    Reading through the article’s list and reading the comments, I have to wonder where to stand on Luke’s blog. I don’t think guns are the problem either. We live in Ohio and so many people are shocked and distressed over the school shootings – of course the first thing you want to do is get guns out of the hands of socio-paths. How do you do it without trumping everyone else’s privilege to have them?
    Once concern I have is what I see gaining steam as to the shooter’s mental state. When this was first mentioned I thought, “God help his therapist if he had one – there is going to be a crucifixion.” I can see a very easy path of using a therapist or counselor as a scapegoat for the venting of those who cannot get their hands on this or any other criminal. As a possible candidate for professional counseling, I have very serious concerns. Even if someone gets through a therapist and still commits such a heinous crime, I would hate to see the therapist fed to the lions by default. The therapist didn’t pull the trigger and psychology/psychiatry are not exact sciences. Will be very interesting to see where this goes. ”
    From Ohio, “Our hearts go out to the families of the victims of this tragedy. Many here are weeping with you…”
    For the mass sensationalist media, “Stop showing the shooter’s picture. We don’t want to see him or remember him.”

  • Denise

    I agree. Thank you for your common sense.

  • vuk sandy

    It’s unfortunate that while the author brings up semi-automatic weapons, he misses a golden opportunity to strike middle ground consensus between those who oppose guns outright and those who feel they have an unalienable right to be armed to the teeth, much like Rambo. I’ll take it upon myself to say that there is no place in any civilized society for semi-auto or automatic weapons. In fact, there is no place for hand guns in society either, apart from law enforcement, or tightly regulated and monitored sport. Hand guns and semi automatic weapons ultimately end up being used to shoot other human beings. I can understand the argument that everyone should have the right to have a full sized hunting rifle locked up at home in a proper cabinet (to preserve their so-called “freedom” as the proponents of firearms continually argue).

    The status quo will only lead to more of these types of massacres. The effects of allowing people to carry concealed weapons is a tragedy that American society will relive, again and again until it gets it right. There is no place for the modern cowboy or John Wayne any longer. Look to the EU and Canada where these types of incidents are rare or non existent. No one carries concealed weapons there. We are satisfied to have hunting rifles locked up properly at home in dedicated storage, and everyone is happy. Lastly, what is an enigma to us non-americans is the concept of the armed Christian. I can assure you that carrying a fire-arm is something that Jesus would never do.

    When I studied American literature and history at university, we discussed the enigma of the American psyche where a certain moral contradiction exists. Puritanical views on sexuality have many in hysteria while violence is consumed enmasse: on the news, games, media, entertainment. While the young are guarded from nudity, they are gorged with a steady of brutal violence which has no precedent in human history. I can assure you that G*d hates gratuitous violence more than he does the act of love making or viewing nudity.

  • chilller

    Have the index finger of everyone removed at birth to stop them from pulling a trigger…what’s that? They’ll only switch to a different finger?…a different form of accomplishing the same thing?? OOhhh….it’s the PERSON operating the finger and NOT the finger…..I get it now…

  • vuk sandy

    It is a fact that if you own a gun you are more likely to die from a
    gunshot than if you do not. More than 9 thousand people die each year in
    the USA from guns. So if you sell more guns than more people will die.
    It will not result in fewer deaths.

  • tacoma

    Brace yourself for an emerging Weapon of Mass Destruction.

    The United States of American itself.

    During the mighty boom decades, America built up a lot of ‘good’ bombs. Now in irreversible decline, these bombs will blow up, one by one.

    Bomb #1: War on Drugs. Are you laughing? US has been fighting this fake war for many decades. But of course, the real goal of the war is to manage it, to sustain it, to balance it. So that war profit keep flowing without blowing up the goose that lay the golden eggs. Along the way, millions of drug addicts killed themselves and others, millions more locked up. This of course is just acceptable collateral damage to sustain world’s biggest drug profit economy. But as the US economy goes into cardiac arrest, the drug war will become impossible to manage and blows up.

    Bomb #2: Wall Street. What can I say. Wall Street has already blew up a lot of things. The government put a cap on it after bailing out the toxic money mafia godfathers. But there remains one big nuke inside Wall Street the government dares not touch. $400 trillion dollar worth of insane financial derivative bets. These derivatives cannot be unwind, cannot be made safe. They cannot be managed. They are waiting for a fuse. Then America will unleash its third nuke after the two dropped on Japan.

    Bomb #3: The gun worship and violence glorification cultures. That America has these deep-rooted national cultures is world-famous. For decades, folks around the world just treat them as chest-thumping American Arrogance, American Exceptionism hot air. But as the economy goes into a tailspin, more and more Newtown ‘biggie’ will happen. Like once a month. Next thing you know a guy who did not get satisfaction after confession will go back to the church and do his thing on hundreds of people attending mass. For that he will being 3 assaults, 5 hands, 15,000 round and appropriately attired for TV. Soon, the American gun culture will split into two camps: one camp, called ‘gun jihardist’ will fight all attempts to disarm them, while the other camp called ‘gun abortionist’ will try to disarm the insane culture. This will lead to civil war. This is Bomb #3.

    Bomb #4. This is the national fiscal and debt bombs. This is also the currency bomb. These 3 triumphs of American powers since WW2, after years of recklessness, irresponsibility, stupidity, will become WMD. The fuses are lit. What they are doing now is to desperately insert a long fuse – ha ha. But how do you know the WMD is blowing? Simple: US Treasury bonds rating get a BBB. All kinds of nasty things will automatically happen after this. You might even see lots of smoke. But let me assure you, there is a big fire behind the smoke. Yup, Bomb #4.

  • GSOB

    One thing our founding fathers knew so well is that we are evil. History has taught them the
    evil in mankind has been with us since original sin.
    They knew that human government is a necessary evil because of evil in mankind. Our Constitution is

    sublime for that reason,…. spelling out freedom for it’s constitutients, limiting the powers of men over other men.
    Don’t let the saying, “why do we need assault weapons?” throw you
    for loop and a loss of words……

    Take away our right to bear arms and our Constitution collapses with us disarmed to defend ourselves.

    Murder is already illegal.
    Tyranny knows no boundaries.

    Assault weapons are not for game hunting.

    Wake up everybody. Our government’s social tendencies are signing up for more gun control.
    Social propaganda is to enslave us with kindness that kills.
    Take our guns away in order to save lives will only lead to more defenseless murder victims.

    The 2nd amendment, … if that goes,…or any more legislation passes, make it harder to get guns, will
    only undo our individual liberties our Constitution gives us. It only eats away at the only thing that

    assures us our liberties. The whole country falls when you abolish the 2nd amendment.

    But look at the bright side….
    it will give way to the advancement of Satan’s world order with chip tagging and the likes for us to survive by, with the increase of crime.
    Let the games begin! Now that’s entertainment!

    • vuk sandy

      Basic hunting rifles are all that is needed for society to protect itself and to cause governments to pause.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gary.shane.14 Gary Shane

    This is my Gun Control, If you Love me you will keep My Commandments, If you do, I will Pray to The Father that you may have The Spirit for a Teacher and Comforter Forever. The Spirit will bring All of My words to your mind and Teach you of things to come. John, chapter 14, verse 26, without this in the heart of a Gun owner, people who should be Loved, and Forgiven end up dead. Immanuel, God with us, and within, us ask us to love and Forgive our enemy.

    • vuk sandy

      Sounds like you have faith. Indeed, God guarantees our freedom, not gangs of armed pseudo-Christian militias. The image of Christ brandishing a bushwacker takes away from his majesty doesn’t it?

  • Scap

    It seems people are very opinionated about this issue and I am as well.I suggest that everyone take the time to ensure that your senators and congressmen know where you stand. There will likely be a vote on gun control in the next month and we all need to make sure our thoughts are heard.

  • yeastfrombackeast

    There has been so much “Hooey ” being bandied back and forth in the media these days it makes you sick. The horrific events in Connecticut have become nothing less than fodder for the political left in this country to force confiscation of legally purchased fire arms. Like every oppressive regime that has ever existed on the face of this planet, a fundamental push is always made to disarm the society. As Thomas Jefferson once said…..”The man who beats his sword into a plow share, will become the slave of the man who doesn’t.” When asked, after the Japanese surrender at the end of WWII, if they had had plans to invade the U.S. the former Japanese Imperial leaders said this…….”Plans had been formulated for an invasion but were never seriously considered since we knew that in America, we would find a gun behind every blade of grass.” Where communities have disarmed here in America, the people have become less safe. Violent crime has increased. Where people are free to carry, Offenders leave them alone. The problem here is not fire arms, magazine capacities or even necessarily the mentally unstable. The issue facing this nation is of a far more basic and fundamental one. Thomas Jefferson said…..”The only way that this great experiment in self governance can succeed is if the people from the farmer to the politician are moral and ethical men.” What was the universally accepted standard for morality back then? Could it have been the Bible? Throughout the history of mankind, in primitive tribal cultures to advanced “civilized” cultures like ours there is a common thread that binds us. That thread is some form of religious expression. Primitive tribes have some kind of “Shamman” or “witch doctor” they look to for spiritual guidance, healing of mind and body. The tribe is taught by this man about their God. It is their grasp of the divine that defines them and their moral conscience. We have an ancient religion in the world today known as Islam. Among it’s basic tenants of faith, its basic 5 pillars upon which the religion is based is Jihad. We have seen for decades, all the way back to 1972 when the PLO murdered the Israeli team in Munich Germany. And it goes on. We see lived out before our very eyes a religious ideology, and idea and those willing to blow themselves up for it in an effort to obtain “Divine favor.” In American culture today we also see the results of a dedicated group of believers who adhere to the religion of secular humanism. This religion places man at the apex of a system of “random convergence” that causes unplanned, unintended mutations that have positive effects on any given species causing them in essence to change or evolve into a higher more advanced and complex form. Knowing that this idea contradicts other observable scientific data that shows 99 & 44/100ths of mutations within species are degenerative in nature. This of course flies in the face of established scientific laws that govern the study of physics. The first law of physics having to do with laws of thermo-dynamics, is called entropy. This law states that all matter and energy in the universe is in a state of decay. Breaking down, wearing out, going from complex to simple. We see this all around us in this world and the universe we live in. Evolution also tells us of natural selection or the survival of the fittest. This of course is true as we can observe in nature. The strong survive, the weak die. That is nature. The devotees of Secular Humanism tell us on one hand that we are masters of our own destinies. and yet we are also victims of circumstances beyond our control. All this has done in it’s many tenants is to dehumanize humanity. Back in the 90′s under the Clinton administration, President Clinton had as part of his 2nd term campaign platform the desire to place 100,000 more cops on the street. Why would we need 100,000 more cops? Over the last 6 or 7 decades we have become a much more lawless nation. There have always been and will always be those in any society who just can’t abide by the rules by which that society has chosen to govern itself. The law and law enforcement officials are there in an effort to curb lawless behavior. It seems to a lesser and lesser degree do we have the capacity to police ourselves. The national conscience has been seared, dulled, obscured and rendered without feeling. We are just the most highly evolved mammal on earth. Or are we? The events of the past week in Connecticut would seem to suggest something else entirely. The emergence of the “Peter Pan” generation is only another symptom of the rot in our society. The once strong, vital tree that represents America has been transplanted from a rich fertile soil abundantly watered by pristine streams to a sick, putrid ground that is fed by streams of raw sewage. Is it any wonder we see so much bad, poisonous fruit on the tree now? Will more gun laws solve anything? No. As I said earlier there is a far more basic and fundamental problem this country faces which is the root cause, in my estimation of the troubles this nation now faces. Back in 1996 in the final presidential debate, an audience member asked this question to both President Clinton and Senator Bob Dole. “What, if anything would you do as president to bring this nation back to it’s moral and ethical moorings?” Neither one answered the question. They danced around the edges and, used a lot of words but didn’t end up saying much. Typical of a politician. The answer I was waiting for would have gone something like this………..”There is very little if anything I could do, even as President of the U.S. to affect the kind of change you’re talking about. Other than trying in whatever feeble way I could to live my life in a moral and ethical way at home and at work. What I would do on an evening when addressing the nation I would call for every Pastor, Rabbi, Evangelist, Ministers and preachers of every denominational stripe to take a leave of absence from the service of their congregations, find a place where they can go just by themselves with only Gods word and fast and pray and seek the face of God. Let God shine His divine light in your hearts by His word and confess your sins before Him. Humble yourselves in His presence and implore His grace to cleanse you from our sin and his grace to empower you to live in a manner worthy of His name. Only after you’ve been there and know that you know that you know that you’ve heard His voice again in your hearts, and have once again become a partaker of His divine nature, then an only then get up from your knees and return to your congregations and in a manner as one who has been with God, preach to your Churches and Synagogues and tell them to do the same thing. Only then will the kind of change begin taking place around this country that needs to happen. Only this kind of grass roots spiritual awakening will accomplish the results you desire. Only then will we find our way back to the foundations that nurtured, sustained and gave us life.” Want to see fewer Dillon Klebolts or Adam Lanzas? I can see no other way for it to be accomplished. To be sure this will not happen over night. We didn’t lose our national conscience over night and we won’t gain it back again over night either. The Bible says that it is time for judgement to begin at the house of God. And if it begin with us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? “They that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength, they shall mount up with wings as eagles. They shall run and not be weary, they shall walk and not faint.” “Trust in the Lord with all your heart. Lean not unto your own understanding, but acknowledge Him in all your ways and He will direct your paths. The world and the people of it hate the light and run from it and shun it. They hate us, if we’re true believers. Check out Matthew chapter 5, the sermon on the mount. We can either keep picking rotten fruit from a rotten tree or we can transplant the tree back into the soil it once did. Are you willing to start with yourself?

  • yeastfrombackeast

    Here’s a little story adapted from the old Christmas story “Twas the night before Christmas.” I hope this will help many to gain a different perspective on the events in Connecticut and comfort their hearts.

    Twas 11 days before Christmas around 9:38
    when 20 beautiful children stormed through heaven’s gate

    Their smiles were contagious, their laughter filled the air

    They could hardly believe all the beauty they saw there.

    They were filled with such joy
    They knew not what to say
    They remembered nothing of what had happened that day

    “Where are we?” asked a little girl, as quiet as a mouse
    “This is heaven” declared a small boy, “We’re spending Christmas at Gods house.”

    When what to their wondering eyes did appear
    but Jesus their Savior, and the children drew near.

    He looked at them and they smiled back just the same
    then He opened His arms and He called them by name

    And in that moment was joy that only heaven can bring, those children all flew into the arms of their King.

    As they lingered in the warmth of Jesus’ embrace
    one small girl turned and looked into His face

    As if he could read all the questions that in her heart she had had, He gently whispered to her “I’ll take care of your Mom and your Dad.

    Then He looked down on earth, the world far below
    He saw all of the hurt, the sorrow and woe

    Then he closed His eyes and he outstretched His hand, “Let my power and presence re-enter this land!” May this country be delivered from the hands of these fools,

    I’m taking back my nation, I’m taking back my schools!”

    The He and the children stood without making a sound, Come now my children let me show you around.

    Excitement filled the space. Some skipped and some ran displaying all the happiness that only small children can.

    And I heard Him proclaim as He walked out of sight,
    “In the midst of this darkness, I AM STILL THE LIGHT!”

    Lyrics from “Away in a manger.”

    ….Be near me Lord Jesus, I ask you to stay
    close by me forever and love me I pray.
    Bless all the dear children in they tender care
    and take us to heaven to live with thee there.

    God bless the children, the teachers and families who have suffered such loss. Cheer their hearts and give them the blessed hope of rejoining their loved ones.

  • Hwyone

    Check this out – share this – ask questions

    http://soundofstars.org/fakeloneshuuters.htm

    http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-12-17/gun-­control-big-picture

  • http://www.facebook.com/trixi.josowidagdo Trixi Triadi Josowidagdo

    Guns don’t kill people, people do. Except that people that have access to assault riffle could easily kill people by the dozens, easier than people that have no access but to kitchen knife.

  • Antiehypocrite

    Celebrating the Prince of
    Peace in the Land of Guns …a letter from Michael Moore

    Monday, December 24th, 2012

    Friends,

    After watching the
    deranged, delusional National Rifle Association press conference on Friday, it
    was clear that the Mayan prophecy had come true. Except the only world that was
    ending was the NRA’s. Their bullying power to set gun policy in this country is
    over. The nation is repulsed by the massacre in Connecticut, and the signs are
    everywhere: a
    basketball coach at a post-game press conference; the
    Republican Joe Scarborough; a
    pawn shop owner in Florida; a
    gun buy-back program in New Jersey; a
    singing contest show on TV, and the
    conservative gun-owning judge who sentenced Jared Loughner.

    So here’s my little bit of
    holiday cheer for you:

    These gun massacres aren’t
    going to end any time soon.

    I’m sorry to say this. But
    deep down we both know it’s true. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t keep pushing
    forward – after all, the momentum is on our side. I know all of us – including
    me – would love to see the president and Congress enact stronger gun laws. We
    need a ban on automatic AND semiautomatic weapons and magazine clips that hold
    more than 7 bullets. We need better background checks and more mental health
    services. We need to regulate the ammo, too.

    But, friends, I would like
    to propose that while all of the above will certainly reduce gun deaths (ask
    Mayor Bloomberg – it is virtually impossible to buy a handgun in New York City
    and the result is the number of murders per year has gone from 2,200 to under
    400), it won’t really bring about an end to these mass slayings and it will not
    address the core problem we have. Connecticut had one of the strongest gun laws
    in the country. That did nothing to prevent the murders of 20 small children on
    December 14th.

    In fact, let’s be clear
    about Newtown: the killer had no criminal record so he would never have shown
    up on a background check. All of the guns he used were legally purchased. None
    fit the legal description of an “assault” weapon. The killer seemed
    to have mental problems and his mother had him seek help, but that was
    worthless. As for security measures, the Sandy Hook school was locked down and
    buttoned up BEFORE the killer showed up that morning. Drills had been held for
    just such an incident. A lot of good that did.

    And here’s the dirty little
    fact none of us liberals want to discuss: The killer only ceased his slaughter
    when he saw that cops were swarming onto the school grounds – i.e, the men with
    the guns. When he saw the guns a-coming, he stopped the bloodshed and killed
    himself. Guns on police officers prevented another 20 or 40 or 100 deaths from
    happening. Guns sometimes work. (Then again, there was an armed deputy sheriff
    at Columbine High School the day of that massacre and he couldn’t/didn’t stop
    it.)

    I am sorry to offer this
    reality check on our much-needed march toward a bunch of well-intended,
    necessary – but ultimately, mostly cosmetic – changes to our gun laws. The sad
    facts are these: Other countries that have guns (like Canada, which has 7
    million guns – mostly hunting guns – in their 12 million households) have a low
    murder rate. Kids in Japan watch the same violent movies and kids in Australia
    play the same violent video games (Grand Theft Auto was created by a British
    company; the UK had 58 gun murders last year in a nation of 63 million people).
    They simply don’t kill each other at the rate that we do. Why is that? THAT is
    the question we should be exploring while we are banning and restricting guns:
    Who are we?

    I’d like to try to answer
    that question.

    We are a country whose
    leaders officially sanction and carry out acts of violence as a means to often
    an immoral end. We invade countries who didn’t attack us. We’re currently using
    drones in a half-dozen countries, often killing civilians.

    This probably shouldn’t
    come as a surprise to us as we are a nation founded on genocide and built on
    the backs of slaves. We slaughtered 600,000 of each other in a civil war. We
    “tamed the Wild West with a six-shooter,” and we rape and beat and
    kill our women without mercy and at a staggering rate: every three hours a
    women is murdered in the USA (half the time by an ex or a current); every three
    minutes a woman is raped in the USA; and every 15 seconds a woman is beaten in
    the USA.

    We belong to an illustrious
    group of nations that still have the death penalty (North Korea, Saudi Arabia,
    China, Iran). We think nothing of letting tens of thousands of our own citizens
    die each year because they are uninsured and thus don’t see a doctor until it’s
    too late.

    Why do we do this? One
    theory is simply “because we can.” There is a level of arrogance in
    the otherwise friendly American spirit, conning ourselves into believing
    there’s something exceptional about us that separates us from all those
    “other” countries (there are indeed many good things about us; the
    same could also be said of Belgium, New Zealand, France, Germany, etc.). We
    think we’re #1 in everything when the truth is our students are 17th in science
    and 25th in math, and we’re 35th in life expectancy. We believe we have the
    greatest democracy but we have the lowest voting turnout of any western
    democracy. We’re biggest and the bestest at everything and we demand and take
    what we want.

    And sometimes we have to be
    violent m*****f*****s to get it. But if one of us goes off-message and shows
    the utterly psychotic nature and brutal results of violence in a Newtown or an
    Aurora or a Virginia Tech, then we get all “sad” and “our hearts
    go out to the families” and presidents promise to take “meaningful
    action.” Well, maybe this president means it this time. He’d better. An
    angry mob of millions is not going to let this drop.

    While we are discussing and
    demanding what to do, may I respectfully ask that we stop and take a look at
    what I believe are the three extenuating factors that may answer the question
    of why we Americans have more violence than most anyone else:

    1. POVERTY. If there’s one
    thing that separates us from the rest of the developed world, it’s this. 50
    million of our people live in poverty. One in five Americans goes hungry at
    some point during the year. The majority of those who aren’t poor are living
    from paycheck to paycheck. There’s no doubt this creates more crime. Middle
    class jobs prevent crime and violence. (If you don’t believe that, ask yourself
    this: If your neighbor has a job and is making $50,000/year, what are the chances
    he’s going to break into your home, shoot you and take your TV? Nil.)

    2. FEAR/RACISM. We’re an
    awfully fearful country considering that, unlike most nations, we’ve never been
    invaded. (No, 1812 wasn’t an invasion. We started it.) Why on earth would we
    need 300 million guns in our homes? I get why the Russians might be a little
    spooked (over 20 million of them died in World War II). But what’s our excuse?
    Worried that the Indians from the casino may go on the warpath? Concerned that
    the Canadians seem to be amassing too many Tim Horton’s donut shops on both
    sides of the border?

    No. It’s because too many
    white people are afraid of black people. Period. The vast majority of the guns
    in the U.S. are sold to white people who live in the suburbs or the country.
    When we fantasize about being mugged or home invaded, what’s the image of the
    perpetrator in our heads? Is it the freckled-face kid from down the street – or
    is it someone who is, if not black, at least poor?

    I think it would be worth
    it to a) do our best to eradicate poverty and re-create the middle class we
    used to have, and b) stop promoting the image of the black man as the boogeyman
    out to hurt you. Calm down, white people, and put away your guns.

    3. THE “ME”
    SOCIETY. I think it’s the every-man-for-himself ethos of this country that has
    put us in this mess and I believe it’s been our undoing. Pull yourself up by
    your bootstraps! You’re not my problem! This is mine!

    Clearly, we are no longer
    our brother’s and sister’s keeper. You get sick and can’t afford the operation?
    Not my problem. The bank has foreclosed on your home? Not my problem. Can’t
    afford to go to college? Not my problem.

    And yet, it all sooner or
    later becomes our problem, doesn’t it? Take away too many safety nets and
    everyone starts to feel the impact. Do you want to live in that kind of
    society, one where you will then have a legitimate reason to be in fear? I
    don’t.

    I’m not saying it’s perfect
    anywhere else, but I have noticed, in my travels, that other civilized
    countries see a national benefit to taking care of each other. Free medical
    care, free or low-cost college, mental health help. And I wonder – why can’t we
    do that? I think it’s because in many other countries people see each other not
    as separate and alone but rather together, on the path of life, with each
    person existing as an integral part of the whole. And you help them when
    they’re in need, not punish them because they’ve had some misfortune or bad
    break. I have to believe one of the reasons gun murders in other countries are
    so rare is because there’s less of the lone wolf mentality amongst their
    citizens. Most are raised with a sense of connection, if not outright
    solidarity. And that makes it harder to kill one another.

    Well, there’s some food for
    thought as we head home for the holidays. Don’t forget to say hi to your
    conservative brother-in-law for me. Even he will tell you that, if you can’t
    nail a deer in three shots – and claim you need a clip of 30 rounds – you’re
    not a hunter my friend, and you have no business owning a gun.

    Have a wonderful Christmas
    or a beautiful December 25th!

    Yours,

    Michael Moore

  • KLCallies

    Watched the movie ” Monumental” with Kirk Cameron and watched the movie analysis of ” Atlas Shrugged” by Anne Ryand both of which also confirmed that our society is degenerating at a rapid pace as this article also suggests and I agree with all of them. Also read ” So help me God, by Chief Justice Roy Moore which explains the degeneration of our legal system in America.

  • http://twitter.com/unsheepled1 Unsheepled

    The banking cartel took control of the USA a long time ago, and they figured out through social engineering to bring a country and its people under control you have to turn them into animals or full blown idiots. Look at what ‘plays’ (which people emulate) on TV, in movies, in video games and then add fluoride,pharma , and frankenfoods to it.. VOILA.. talking zombies. Free will is gone as most people only repeat the blithering idiot vomit TV spews at them, and REPEATING is taught in school, not THINKING !
    BTW Pharma drugs have no SIDE effects, these are fully intended or they would be not with EVERY SINGLE potion they create.

  • Guest

    Tighter gun control is NOT the issue…the issue is lack of morals. The US is a cesspool or immorality with a good portion of the population having absolutely no compassion, empathy, or sense of responsibility. Parents don’t bother to teach their kids responsibility and accountability and so these kids are growing up viewing human life as something for their own, personal entertainment rather than as something precious. Look at all fo the crap the medial forces down our throats – the glorification of drugs, violence, promiscuity, all presented to us through “artists” how have no talent and no values. Add in the garbage the psychologists try to tell us is okay…adultery, “affluenza,” pills are good for us and it just drives this country further down. So…no, guns aren’t the problem, people are – people who have no morals and a serious lack of decency and respect. And before anyone reponds with the usual religious crap – let me say that I’m an atheist.

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