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The Economic Implications Of A Potential Ebola Pandemic In The United States

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Fear Of Ebola - Public DomainFor the moment, our top public health officials are quite adamant that there absolutely will not be a major Ebola outbreak in the United States.  But what if they are wrong?  Or what would happen if terrorists released a form of weaponized Ebola or weaponized smallpox in one of our major cities?  What would such an event do to our economy?  I think that we can get some clues by looking at the economic collapses that are taking place in Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone right now.  When an extremely deadly virus like Ebola starts spreading like wildfire, the fear that it creates can be even worse for a society than the disease.  All of a sudden people don’t want to go to work, people don’t want to go to school and people definitely don’t want to go shopping.  There are very few things that can shut down the economy of a nation faster.  Considering the fact that our big banks are being more reckless than ever, we better hope that we don’t see a “black swan event” such as a major Ebola outbreak come along and upset the apple cart.  Because if that does happen, our Ponzi scheme of an economy could implode really quick.

Right now there is just one confirmed case of Ebola in Texas.  If they isolated him before he infected anyone else, we might be okay for the moment.  But already we are being told that there may be “a possible second Ebola patient” in Dallas…

Health officials are closely monitoring a possible second Ebola patient who had close contact with the first person to be diagnosed in the U.S., the director of Dallas County’s health department said Wednesday.

All who have been in close contact with the man officially diagnosed are being monitored as a precaution, Zachary Thompson, director of Dallas County Health and Human Services, said in a morning interview with WFAA-TV, Dallas-Fort Worth.

“Let me be real frank to the Dallas County residents: The fact that we have one confirmed case, there may be another case that is a close associate with this particular patient,” he said. “So this is real. There should be a concern, but it’s contained to the specific family members and close friends at this moment.”

We have learned the name of the man that is confirmed to have Ebola.  His name is Thomas Eric Duncan and when he went to Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital last Friday, he told them that he was feeling quite ill and that he was from Liberia.  You would have thought that should have set off major alarm bells.  But instead, he got sent back home

The first Ebola patient diagnosed in the U.S. initially went to a Dallas emergency room last week but was sent home, despite telling a nurse that he had been in disease-ravaged West Africa, the hospital acknowledged Wednesday.

The decision by Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital to release him could have put many others at risk of exposure to the disease before he went back to the ER two days later, after his condition worsened.

Thomas Eric Duncan explained to a nurse Friday that he was visiting the U.S. from Liberia, but that information was not widely shared, said Dr. Mark Lester, who works for the hospital’s parent company.

So a fully contagious Duncan had the opportunity to spread the virus around for another 48 hours before he was finally admitted to the hospital for treatment.

And it wasn’t just adults that he potentially exposed to the disease.  It is being reported that he had “close contact” with five students that attend four different Dallas schools.  Local media is reporting that the names of those schools are Tasby Middle School, Hotchkiss Elementary School, Dan D. Rogers Elementary and Conrad High School.

Predictably, many parents are already pulling their kids out of school in the Dallas area.

It shall be very interesting to see how many kids actually show up for school tomorrow morning.

But this is what happens to a society when the fear of Ebola takes hold.  People almost immediately start shutting down their activities and staying home.

Over in West Africa, months of Ebola fear is starting to take a major toll on the economy.  For example, the president of Guinea says that his economy is on the verge of complete collapse

Guinea has been more successful in containing the Ebola epidemic than its immediate neighbors in West Africa, but the loss of revenue caused by the crisis has left the country in dire financial straits, President Alpha Condé said after concluding a round of meetings at the United Nations General Assembly.

Mr. Condé said Guinea would need about $100 million until December to cover its budget gap, which will grow if Ebola is not tackled by the end of the year.

“The slowing down of our economies due to Ebola requires that most of our countries get some budgetary support … it’s going to be crucial that we get that support so our economies don’t completely collapse,” he said.

And things are even worse in Liberia.  The Washington Post says that Liberia is descending “into economic hell”…

Liberia, the West African nation hardest it by Ebola, has begun a frightening descent into economic hell.

That’s the import of three recent reports from international organizations that seem to bear out the worst-case scenarios of months ago: that people would abandon the fields and factories, that food and fuel would become scarce and unaffordable, and that the government’s already meager capacity to help, along with the nation’s prospects for a better future, would be severely compromised.

If thousands of people start getting Ebola in major cities all over America, the same thing will happen here too.

A major Ebola pandemic in America would mean an almost total economic shutdown and basic essentials would start disappearing from the marketplace almost immediately.  Just check out what is happening in Liberia even as you read this…

The basic necessities of survival in Liberia — food, transportation, work, money, help from the government — are rapidly being depleted, according to recent reports by the United Nations Food and Agricultural Organization, the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank.

Even though economic demand would drop through the floor for most things, prices for food and other essential supplies tend to skyrocket during a major emergency.  The IMF says that the inflation rate will hit approximately 13 percent in Liberia by the end of the year even though economic activity has declined dramatically.  It is going to become extremely challenging for most families over there to feed themselves.

And as economic activity withers, tax revenues also dry up.  Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone are all facing massive revenue shortfalls, and they are asking for international assistance.

But if the same thing happened in the United States, do you think the rest of the world would send us lots of money to help us pay our bills?

I don’t think so.

Needless to say, an Ebola outbreak is not good for financial markets either.  News of the confirmed case of Ebola in Texas helped push down the Dow more than 238 points on Wednesday, and airline stocks in particular declined sharply.

If there are no more confirmed cases of Ebola in Texas, things will probably get back to normal for U.S. markets.

But if Ebola does start spreading and cases start popping up all over the country, that could be just the thing to burst our massive stock market bubble.

Let us hope that this is just a false alarm.

Let us hope that our public health authorities have everything under control.

Nobody should want to see thousands (or potentially millions) of fellow Americans get sick and die.

Unfortunately, scientists tell us that it is only a matter of time before another major pandemic of some sort ravages this nation.

When that happens, will our fragile economy be able to handle the shock?

  • Firstgarden

    “… he told them that he was feeling quite ill and that he was from Liberia. You would have thought that should have set off major alarm bells. But instead, he got sent back home…”

    I didn’t know the VA ran the hospital.

    • Mike Smithy

      All doctors are smart. However, very few are intelligent.

      • David R.(Canada)

        Actually, “All doctors are educated; very few are really smart or have any common sense.”

        • Firstgarden

          “God heals, and the doctor takes the fees.”

          – Benjamin Franklin

        • Rick

          Actually, most doctors are educated the mainstream way, May or may not be smart, certainly have little common sense as they are allowing their minds to be closed by the AMA and other establishment systems to treatment and care that actually works quite cheaply. And they have forgotten the Oath they all take… You know tht one about “First do no harm…”

          • Firstgarden

            The Hippocratic Oath has become the Hypocrite’s Oath. Doctors are trained to address symptoms, not causes. The medical journals they read are published by the Pharmaceutical Mafia. TPTB have attempted to squash homeopathy, Chiropractic, and a whole plethora of natural, holistic practices. They tried to make vitamins a “drug”, thus outlawing them without a prescription from a biochemist MD. They tried to outlaw private gardens. They bought the name “Organic”. They wish to irradiate all our produce. On & on the list goes. It’s a huge money racket that has virtually nothing to do with our health or the public good.

        • grey

          Finally! Somebody else who understands the difference between being educated and intelligent!

    • alan

      Obamacare, if you like your Ebola you can keep your Ebloa. Sorry I had to say it, couldn’t help myself.

    • Dave of OK

      The growing ineptness of Americans is really starting to be a concern; you talk to employers everywhere and they are really fed up with the quality of workmanship coming out of our younger generation. That doesn’t help when Ebola comes knocking. You need all hands on deck and being competent.

  • Firstgarden

    The Bubonic Plague

    The plague had large scale social and economic effects, many of which are recorded in the introduction of the Decameron.

    [The Decameron – A work by Boccaccio, written between 1348 and 1358, containing a hundred tales told by a party of ten young people who had fled from the Black Death in Florence. The work was influential on later writers such as Chaucer and Shakespeare.]

    People abandoned their friends and family, fled cities, and shut themselves off from the world. Funeral rites became perfunctory or stopped altogether, and work ceased being done. Some felt that the wrath of God was descending upon man, and so fought the plague with prayer. Some felt that they should obey the maxim, “Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die.”

    The society experienced an upheaval to an extent usually only seen in controlled circumstances such as a carnival. The economy underwent abrupt and extreme inflation. Since it was so difficult (and dangerous) to procure goods through trade and to produce them, the prices of both goods produced locally and those imported from afar skyrocketed.

    Because of illness and death, workers became exceedingly scarce, so even peasants felt the effects of the new rise in wages. The demand for people to work the land was so high that it threatened the manorial holdings. Serfs were no longer tied to one master; if one left the land, another lord would instantly hire them. The lords had to make changes in order to make the situation more profitable for the peasants and so keep them on their land. In general, wages outpaced prices and the standard of living was subsequently raised.

    As a consequence of the beginning of blurring financial distinctions, social distinctions sharpened. The fashions of the nobility became more extravagant in order to emphasize the social standing of the person wearing the clothing. The peasants became slightly more empowered, and revolted when the aristocracy attempted to resist the changes brought about by the plague.

    In 1358, the peasantry of northern France rioted, and in 1378 disenfranchised guild members revolted. The social and economic structure of Europe was drastically and irretrievably changed.

    (Ed: D.S.) Courie, Leonard W. The Black Death and Peasant’s Revolt. New York: Wayland Publisher


      Very interesting.

    • Richard O. Mann

      Yep. They covered this on the History Channel back when it actually did programs on history. The Black Death totally changed Europe. Kill off one third of the population and it makes a major impact on things. If this spreads, and people here go into panic mode, and the government declares marshal law, well……….

      • Firstgarden

        I LOVED the History Channel..
        back when they did history. 🙂

  • T.

    “Liberia is descending into economic Hell – If thousands of people start getting Ebola in major American cities, the same thing will happen here too”.
    Yes. It will be America’s worst Nightmare – The same thing would Then happen here Too.

  • This strain of Ebola does not fit the box.
    This strain of Ebola carries all the traits of being weaponized.
    The number 1 being the extended incubation period.
    Normally Ebola has a 2 to 7 day incubation period.
    This strain is 21 days thereby allowing it to escape quarrentine efforts.
    The Russians did the same with anthrax.
    You get to infect a huge area which then simply overwhelms the medical system.
    Isn’t that what’s happening???

    • Firstgarden

      Designer disease? I wouldn’t put that past TPTB. Good post.

    • Priszilla

      Tom Clancy: Executive Orders
      Eric van Lustbader: The Bourne Legacy

      • Drud

        Clancy also had a engineered version in Rainbow 6.

      • Lt

        Troll on troll.

    • alan

      Sadly it will come back on who ever launched it if that’s the case. I think people in the US are somewhat better health would hold up better against than someone in Africa. But if it does get into the population things will get crazy very soon. The banking system crashing will be the least of anyone’s concern.

      • Rick

        Alan, with our processed GMO laden food, fluoride poisoned water supply, chem trails and pollutants in the air, and obesity rates skyrocketing, lack of exercise. all over the past 20 years, I would say our immune systems as a whole are actually worse than many in Africa.

        • Firstgarden

          Did you know that crows won’t eat GMO corn? The scarecrow is on unemployment now.

          • Jon

            Funny, crows in my neck of the woods didn’t hear about this…

          • Firstgarden

            ARE the crows eating GMO corn? I’m willing to modify my position.

        • mike

          You may be correct. I’ve heard the argument that Americans will fight off ebola virus easier than nutrition deprived Africans. But from the look of the guy that died in Dallas, he didn’t look underfed. I’ve started ramping up on fruits and veggies and Vitamin C intake, sleep and exercise. Also, cutting out sugars is a good idea as sugars impact the immune system negatively. Ebola or no ebola it is always a good idea to have a strong immune system.. Prayer against pestilence and disease in Jesus name also works miracles.

          • Rick

            Mike, you are very wise in putting together an immune boosting plan. You’ve added two thing to my list that are very important. Prayer, and cutting back on refined sugars. One additional thing you may want to consider is daily colloidal silver. Good luck, and God Bless!

          • mike

            Thanks brother. I’m going to look into colloidal silver more deeply. Something else i’ve investigated somewhat is the use of diluted food grade hydrogen peroxide mixed with reverse osmosis treated and filtered water (basically non fluoridated). One other cheap but awesome supplement to the diet I use is food grade diatomaceous earth. That really keeps you cleaned out. HCL with cooked foods also if you are over 40. I get indigestion if I eat say chili. But I can eat chili and three or four HCL tablets right after and no indigestion so I know I’m getting better digestion.

    • jakartaman

      If they can get it to be transmitted by airborne means the world is in big trouble.
      It may be in the process of mutating in that direction as we speak!

      • Rick

        It’s already there, we are just not being told every detail.

  • Bill

    This Ebola scare is a great diversion from the inevitable collapse of the dollar.

    • aliceinwonder

      It is also the new “fear factor”..rush to get your poisonous, deadly inoculation to ‘protect yourselves’….line up like Jews at the rail cars.

      • Priszilla

        Thanks to the anti-vaccers there is a new surge of measles and pertussis.
        and thanks to the gun and car lobby the e&r are full of accident and gun shot victims.
        Just keep the guys busy in the hospital so they can send home anyone with a bit of fever bragging about their vacation overseas.

        • aliceinwonder

          WOW…what gov troll are YOU? You seriously believe what you wrote? Or should I actually ask how much you got paid ? BTW, I had measles. I LIVED. And other childhood illnesses. I do agree we should outlaw cars. They do cause a lot of deaths. More than guns by far. Cars kill people. Outlaw cars.

          • Rick

            Don’t you also think after what occurred in Moor, OK that’d we need to outlaw knives? Priszilla is full of crap.

          • aliceinwonder

            Oh wow, Rick…you’re right. Outlaw cars and knives. Thanks for bringing that up!

          • Airedale

            …and outlaw Ebola while we’re at it.

          • aliceinwonder

            You’d have to outlaw Monsanto. It’s their created strain. On their GMO tobacco leaves…..

          • Michael

            Don’t forget rocks and every other blunt object that could potentially kill people. Hell, let’s live in a perfect world while we’re at it, where nobody dies!

          • Priszilla

            Well, measles can cause brain damage.

            I had influenza as a kid. not fun.

            And people actually die from influenza. And also from measles and whooping cough.

            But my point was if you overload the nurses with preventable visits they can’t focus on the extraordinary.

          • grey

            This is cute. How old are you kid?

          • Lt

            Your is you are a troll.

        • Lt

          Lying troll.

    • y

      are you saying this case isnt real?

    • louie

      this dollar crash stuff and economic collapse stuff is getting old. buy silver,lol! buy pasta, lol!. dollar strong.

      • Michael

        If you can eat silver or defend your life with it, then buy it by all means. If you have any common sense, then buy guns and ammunition (thousands of rounds). Then spend the rest on food that is easily preserved.

  • Priszilla

    Here’s one more. A German charity cap anamur applied for funds from the German government. As it took long until approval they started building a treatment centre. When the funds were approved and the money was ready the charity was told that according to rules projects that were started before the money was there could not be funded.

  • Priszilla

    For all the virus diseases there is no cure. Either your body can fight and win or it loses.

    So what us there currently that starts with fever, oain, malaise, sneezing, coughing?
    Ebola influenza measles pertussis bronchitis
    And there are the mosquito diseases dengue, west nile, chikungunya.
    And the biggest disease of them all – cut welfare and healthcare to buy guns and ammo.

  • Michael

    This is somewhat off topic, but you always hear so many negative things about us Americans. Some of it you hear from other countries, and a lot of it from our own people. It’s really not justified. There are still many good people (including women and children) that could potentially die in a scenario like this. We can thank the powers that be for making us good people of America seem like lying thieving rats to other countries. Just an educated guess, this strain of Ebola was probably created to wipe out us “infidels”, AKA the lying thieving Americans we are thought of as (thanks mostly to our covert ops/illegitimate wars designed by the powers that be). Even if it wasn’t bio-engineered in a lab somewhere (China or the middle east?) we can still certainly blame the powers that be for letting this man carrying the virus come into our borders unhindered.

    • grey

      You must be from the south. Cause I grew up in that region, left it, and have yet to find a halfway decent human being ever since.

      • Michael

        Yes, actually I am. I’m from Galveston, Texas. Sadly I have to agree with your statement about Northerners. I live in Pueblo, Colorado right now and although there are decent people here, none have even close to the same level of courtesy and hospitality that us Southerners have. I long to return to the South, and one day I will.

  • K

    Two thoughts. What if the people who maintain the power grid, are the ones who stay home, out of fear? Will we see people ordered to work, at gunpoint? We have all heard the phrase, the dumbing down of America. Have we as a people, become too dumb, and too unfocused, to even handle such an emergency? Example, the hospital turning the patient away at first. Perhaps use these thoughts, when you are trying to calculate, how fast this could get out of hand.

    • apeiron

      Exactly what I thought, K. He may have ‘told a nurse’ who is completely tuned out of current events & ‘just came from Liberia’ didn’t register in the least.

      • Priszilla

        Could the average american pinpoint liberia on a map? Liberia and library is probably similar to people who write “I should of known”.

        • apeiron

          I remember, a few years back, seeing an article showing that an alarming number of high school seniors couldn’t find the USA on a map. We’ve become, by & large, a nation of ‘kidults’ with little interest in or patience with things outside our personal interest.

    • David R.(Canada)

      You can be sure that professions such as bus drivers, taxi drivers, truck drivers, police, hospital workers, etc. will most likely either stay home or will actually be too sick to work.
      There’ll be no food in the stores, no fuel will be delivered to gas stations etc.
      Society will effectively shut down; you’ll be on your own.

      • Priszilla

        If there are less taxis and busses there will be more petrol left.

    • Firstgarden

      “Have we as a people, become too dumb, and too unfocused, to even handle such an emergency?”

      How do I get to Disneyland? Micky Mouse will save me.

  • aliceinwonder

    There are a couple of observations I’d like to share that are each worthy of an article, but since they’re somewhat time sensitive, and I don’t want to wait until I make writing them a priority, I’ll just share them here…

    The two big stories in the news lately surround the alleged ebola pandemic, and the creeping incompetence of the Secret Service.

    First, the ebola panic is being used to condition the public to accept some vaccine that will make its much anticipated appearance at the height of the fear the media is inciting. This vaccine has already been around for several years, but most people don’t know that. (I’ll have to confirm this.) Furthermore, as has been the case in the last few years with the flu vaccine that people blindly get, they’ll announce a shortage of the ebola vaccine to create an inordinate demand that will send people rushing to their doctors, hospitals, local health departments, anywhere they might avail themselves of the shot they think will save them from certain death.

    Problem is, both the ebola virus and the vaccine to supposedly combat it are being manipulated by the same players…the CDC (whom I haven’t trusted for a long time), George Soros, and Bill and Melinda Gates. Gates is on record as saying, in effect, that the earth is overpopulated, and well-planned distribution of vaccines throughout underdeveloped countries, principally to their children, will remedy that “problem” by reducing the population by 10-15%.

    Gates is also a major player behind the push of the surrealistically evil Common Core nightmare being foisted via major deception upon our children in public schools. Between dumbing us down and drugging us out of existence, he and his fellow elites can get the earth’s population down to a more manageable 500 million. Of course, they never volunteer to make a personal sacrifice for that cause, i.e. kill themselves. That’s why they’re elites.

    That’s OK, what goes around, comes around. When judgment day comes, there will be no reboot mechanism available for those who will have the beginnings of eternal regret when they stand before Almighty God.

    But I digress.

    The second issue is this crazy notion that the Secret Service is proving to be alarmingly inept at protecting the man for whom they are trained and PAID to risk their lives. I’m beginning to think this might be by design, for a couple of reasons.

    One, ever since Obama has begun his term of disgracing America, he has made some very unwise comparisons of himself to two past presidents, namely Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy. Now, think with me for just a minute… what do those two presidents have in common? Doh! They were both taken out, and I don’t mean on a date. I’m doing my best here to avoid that @$$@$$inate word, because some SS goons might leave their post at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and knock on my door to question my intentions, as if I had even the remotest designs to cause harm to a man I have zero respect for. The office I respect. The man usurping it, not so much. I have neither the means, the motive, nor the opportunity to personally hurt the guy.

    Two, in the last five miserable years of what some people loosely call his leadership, it is almost as though he is goading his enemies into an act of personal aggression against him (more on this later). By his actions, which he must know are increasingly offensive to the entire world on so many levels, he may as well be saying “go ahead, hit me.” How many times can a guy play golf on the job and not get fired? And that’s really the least odious of his offenses.

    It has come out that he has attended fewer than half of his security briefings. Dude, seriously?! In all the years I have WORKED for a living, if I had missed more than half my meetings, I would have been shown the door in a hurry. And it isn’t like they were discussing some upcoming fund raising event (well, war does have a way of extorting taxes from unwilling or oblivious subjects), these are matters of national security, for crying out loud.

    How much illegal immigration will he continue to allow and downright promote, to the likely irreversible detriment to our country? You could almost make the case that hey, the guy that made it into the White House past Secret Service security personnel was just an illegal immigrant of a different nature, crossing a different border…. Oh, but when it’s YOUR border that’s being penetrated, that’s different, isn’t it?

    There are several possibilities here…

    the guy is just a buffoon, and he isn’t trying to hide it anymore

    he’s purposely laying back on various issues until the public outcry is so great that he will finally stand up and say “OK, the people have demanded action, and I’m going to act”, but in some way we intended to act all along anyway – this is why it’s always dangerous to just demand unspecified action by saying “do something!”

    he’s pushing his enemies to destroy him, making him a martyr for the New World Order. This sounds far-fetched at first if you are unfamiliar with the movie Manchurian Candidate (the original in black & white with Frank Sinatra). This would make him the most subtle form of suicide bomber…sacrificing his own life to bring about the chaos which would certainly ensue, stoked by the claims of the media that he was the victim of a culture of hate, etc. It would be the perfect pretext for declaring martial law and finalizing the police state. Of all the things I’ve ever wanted to be wrong about, this is the one I most wish not to be so.

    But as much as the Clintons disrespected the military and the Secret Service, Obama has taken these constant insults to a new level. He has fired a considerable number of high-ranking military officers, likely old school career men with a sense of tradition and propriety, the kind that could pull off a coup that would remove him from power.

    My hunch is that the members of his Secret Service detail, though initially and basically men of integrity and character, have been witnessing the accelerating decline of this country under his watch to the point that their hearts may no longer be in it, and their duty to protect the man destroying America violates their love for her. How much dedication can he continue to expect from men whose morale he degrades on a daily basis by his blatantly anti-American actions?

    I’d be willing to bet that applications for positions in the Secret Service White House detail have not been at an all-time high since 2009.

    Some of the latest propaganda being put out is that this new CIA created boogie man to replace Al Qaeda (which Americans grew tired of hearing invoked), ISIS, probably just as bogus, is targeting him personally. Talk about mixed emotions. If he is removed from office, I’d much rather it be via his resignation, impeachment (not as good an idea as it sounds, some of you know what I mean), or bloodless military coup. All of those would be internally handled by Americans. We don’t want to see something we want done by someone we don’t want doing it, i.e. his fellow Muslims (or CIA operatives acting as Muslims).

    It reminds me of Teddy Roosevelt’s sage observation that in politics, nothing happens by accident; if it happens, it was planned that way. If thinking only in a worldly sense, it’s pretty eerie, in light of my foregoing commentary. However, we know that ultimately, God is control, no matter how utterly ridiculous things get.

    Those are my observations, for whatever they’re worth (and yeah, they stretched to article length, didn’t they?). Fervent prayer and repentance are probably the only things that will prevent these things from happening, because as necessary as it is to persist, political activism alone will not do it. We are being warned by a very gracious, merciful Creator that judgment is imminent, but are we listening, or just stiffening our necks? <Fred Marshall III

    • David R.(Canada)

      Well said!
      God bless and stay safe.

    • Rick

      Just read the book of Revelation. What we are now seeing is also written down in broad terms of what will happen, and when it occurs. St. John the Revelator did not provide the details, but the outcomes so far are the same. As you know, the USA or any symbolism of it are never mentioned in that book. Maybe we just won’t be around (as a country) when our Savior comes back?

      • Lennie Pike

        I paraphrase: “The great prostitute that exported her immorality o the entire world – clothed in red, white, and blue.” The Bible says “purple” and not blue but take a close look at the field that the fifty stars lie upon – what color is it really?

        • Lennie Pike

          And yes we won’t be around then unless “God’s People get out or are destroyed along with her.” ” Filled with demons of every kind” ? – here much more so than in any other country in the world.

    • grey

      First: I can’t believe I read that entire post. Second: I can’t believe I enjoyed it as much as I did! Lol good stuff man. Long forum posts are a pet peeve of mine but you had some very interesting thoughts and you drew some very inspirational conclusions. Thanks for that!

      • grey

        Or woman? Alice….? My bad. 🙁

        • blue

          Finally! Somebody else who understands the difference..


    There is no way our community hospitals could handle an Ebola Pandemic. I was passing the Kaiser Flagship ER here in San Diego a few months back. It was JAMMED. People lining up. Every seat taken. Just another “typical” night a nurse told me. As for handling an Ebola Panic? No way. This assumes Drs and Nurses remain at their posts. A very big assumption IMHO. This assumes the facilities could care for them. Another thing, we are right next to Mexico. If Ebola hits that population, I can assure the borders will be breached adding to the chaos. Martial Law would become a certainty.

  • alan

    I’m still very suspicious of this Ebola boogieman. If it gets a foot hold, people will panic and it will make a mess of things pretty quick. I would suspect people will start pulling their kids from school soon and what about going to work? Can ticks and mosquito’s transmit it? Will it still spread in cold dry climates like Montana or Alaska? I don’t see much information about the conditions in which it favors.

    • Firstgarden

      Good questions, matey.

    • David R.(Canada)

      An article I read a couple of days ago hinted that the virus could probably spread more easily in a temperate climate. Heat and high humidity seem to kill it more easily that cool, dry weather.
      As you get further north the population generally has a lower Vit. D level, especially in the winter, making them more susceptible to all viral diseases (flu, common cold etc.)

  • Black

    Build a 100 foot high wall around Texas right now! I hear there are people in blue suits walking around all over Texas today

  • grumpyhillbilly

    Call me nuts on this one, but maybe a Ebola based economic collapse now might be better than all those bubbles going poof later. Its better than WWIII. In theory the southern invasion will be retreating if things get worse. It really depends on who and what survives. We in theory will still have those resources we’re sitting on. Big agriculture will still be farming. In theory you’ll be losing people from your urban population. Sorry for my a cold assessment. What can I say, I’ve learned from Rahm about never letting an opportunity pass.

    • David R.(Canada)

      By “Southern Invasion” I assume you mean the invasion from Mexico into the US.
      I think you’re wrong on that count. If Ebola gets into the Mexico City slums there’ll be a stampede heading North into what is perceived as a better chance of survival in the US. They won’t stop until they hit snow.
      You statement that Big Agri will still be farming may be right, but there’s no guarantee that any food will get into larger communities; truck drivers may just refuse to go into the cities.

  • David R.(Canada)

    When this disease gets to Ivory Coast, then we’ll start to become concerned in the West.
    Ivory Coast and Ghana next door produce something like 50% of the world’s cocoa. When chocolate bars double in price…that’s when the public will start to get excited about all this!

  • FortuneSeek3rz

    There will be a vaccine. This isn’t a death sentence for humanity. We survived bubonic plague and influenza during a time when much less was known about medicine and physiology. Ebola will end up being a footnote in history.

  • DJohn1

    I suggest we suspend all payments until the Ebola Epidemic is over with. The public gets a free pass for a while. Add any mortgage payments to the end of the mortgage period.
    Close all schools temporarily until it is over with.
    Close all public activities until it is over with.
    Isolate any known carriers of the disease in a form of quarantine. Any deaths will need special attention from our funeral director industry and all bodies sealed for destruction or removal. I would suggest plastic that heat seals everything.
    Put the grocery stores on notice that they will have to expand deliveries to minimize the public in the stores. People will have to use a telephone to order groceries or the internet.
    Close all restaurants and bars.
    The Hazzard Suits are going to have to have their own temperature controls and breathing apparatus similar to what you see in a space suit. Anything less than that don’t bother with a suit. It won’t work anyway.
    The last I heard, bleach is an effective antiviral agent. I do not know if it will work with Ebola. But I suggest that all plates, glasses, silverware, and anything else be used with bleach agents in a dishwasher. I normally do this out of habit. It has kept my family safe from a number of flu epidemics.
    The real problem is the idiots that go out and infect others. Every church I have ever been in was a den of people sick with one thing or another. They all believe prayer will heal them. That is chancy at best.
    I believe in prayer. I do not believe in tempting the Lord. That is tempting the Lord when you go to church sick.
    You may experience a miracle or not. But the problem is you infect 10 other people by being there.
    Doctors are notorious for full waiting rooms full of sick people. Business is not good enough? They have to generate more? You go in with a cold and come out with the plague? I do not know the answer to this. I suggest they all stay in their cars until they are called with a buzzer system like some restaurants use when waiting for a table.
    Families often track bugs into the home from work. Simple rules of sanitation might stop that. You enter the house. Strip off your clothes and put on a robe. Then wash your clothes in a good solution of detergent and if possible bleach alternative such as Tide puts out.
    Wash down your shoes and be sure to remove them at the door.
    Simple sanitation? It might save your life.
    To Mike: (Firefox prevented this page from automatically redirecting to another page.) I am using some sophisticated software and we have been fielding these messages for awhile. Might look into it. Might be Bots or a virus. Since my computer is not using a program written in C Plus Plus it has no effect here.

    • jakartaman

      Nice try – all good ideas and actions.
      BUT – the reality is the country will stop.
      Most if not all people will hunker down in their homes with the windows sealed in plastic. – No food in stores – no banking – no electricity no oil deliveries – you will be on your own until the pandemic runs its course.

      • Firstgarden

        A battery operated SW radio would be nice.

    • Orange Jean

      Oddly enough … they already sent out directions to funeral directors the day we first heard about this case.

  • Rick

    Luckily what we have that West Africa does not, are FEMA camps, and the ability to print as much money as we want or need.

  • Black

    Less people, more beer for me!

    • Firstgarden

      Okay, but remember, the more mead you throw down, the weaker your immune system becomes. :-{ )

  • Lennie Pike

    Texans: You are the biggest obstacle to the Godless Globalists with Russia running a distant second. Keep your powder dry.

    • Firstgarden

      If Texas leaves the union, I’m moving there.

    • Firstgarden

      .. with Russia running a distant second.”

      People in sleeping bags are the soft tacos of the bear world

  • Robert Burns

    You have to wonder about a government that cannot adequately protect the most important house in the nation, despite what you think of the occupant, and yet hope that same government can effectively deal with an epidemic/pandemic. It also is not just Ebola but also untreatable TB brought in by the invaders from the south. Then there is the so-called “mystery virus” attacking children about which our esteemed medical industry has no clue. Winter is coming and people will be thrown in closer proximity (not just airplanes) but pretty much everywhere. We are seeing not just one whammy but a bunch.
    “The levees will hold just fine”. Good job Brownie.

  • Sandbagger

    Has anyone heard what Mr. Duncan was doing when he was in Liberia? Was he in direct contact with Ebola victims, or not? If not, how did he get it? Let’s suppose he touched a surface that a sick person had previously touched (or threw up in), such as a public sink? Would he even HAVE to touch anything in that case since micro-droplets of vomit were surely floating in the air in that restroom. All it would take is rubbing his eyes. Just one possible scenario, but you get the gist.

    Meanwhile, the family and friends of Mr. Duncan are on “home detainment” that consists of allowing them to be on their patio. I wonder who cleaned up the vomit Mr. Duncan threw up out in front of his condo?

    I’m positive someone knows the answers to these questions and those answers are being kept quiet in order to keep people from panicking.

  • A Dodgy Bloke

    Now your talking. I’ve always thought if IS wanted to cripple the US just start a little Small Pox epidemic. I here the Soviets had some real pieces of work, that got louse after the fall of the USSR. I’m sure between Syria, Iraq, or Libya somebody got samples. Any pandemic your looking at hunkering down for at lest six months to a year.

  • Firstgarden

    A very interesting article!!
    It’s a bit long, so skim-read if you must.
    But definitely well worth the read.

    US Visas Held By 13,500 People In Three Ebola Countries

    Roughly 13,500 people from the Ebola-stricken countries of Sierra Leon, Guinea and Liberia have visas to visit the United States, according to federal data.

    The data doesn’t show how many of those people are already in the United States, but visitors from those countries should be excluded until they can show they’re free of Ebola, said Jessica Vaughan, policy director at the Center for Immigration Studies, a group that pushes for low-scale immigration.

    “It would be reasonable [for the president] to designate Ebola as a communicable disease of public health significance. That would enable the State Department to impose tighter restrictions on visitors” from countries with Ebola outbreaks, she said.

    Under current policies, only people with obvious Ebola symptoms are excluded by border officials. But a person can be infected with the disease, and not show any symptoms, for up to 21 days.

    On Sept. 30, federal officials announced that a Liberian had flown into the United States on Sept. 20, and had began to show obvious symptoms of the disease on the 24th. Disease-carriers can transmit the disease once they have symptoms.

    The Liberian is now being treated in a Dallas hospital, and federal officials are trying to contact everyone who was in contact with the Liberian. For example, several medical professionals have been kept under watch after briefly treating the Liberian on the 24th.

    Without the visa changes, the federal government is encouraging foreign government officials, professionals and wealthy people to flee Ebola countries to get free medical services in Texas and other states, she said.

    “People are already coming here for ‘birth tourism’” to ensure their children has U.S. citizenship, Vaughan said.

    “There’s no reason that people won’t come here for treatment that doesn’t exist in their country,” she said, especially “if there is no effort to recoup [medical] costs or to prevent people coming.”

    “People pay attention to our border policy and try to take advantage of anything they see,” she said, citing the surge of 130,000 poor Central Americans who have crossed the southern border since last October.

    President Barack Obama has the authority to limit visits from diseased countries, she said.

    Namibia, Kenya and Zambia have already barred or restricted travelers from the three Ebola countries.

    In contrast, “where immigration and travel security matters are concerned, this [U.S.] administration has a history of trying to sweep potential security and health threats under the rug,” said Vaughan. ”They’re on the side of acting like there not a threat, there’s nothing to see here,” she said.

    The United States is already spending at least $750 million, and deploying roughly 3,000 U.S. troops to the region, to suppress the disease in the three countries.

    Vaughan’s estimate of 13,500 outstanding visas includes visas for people that have already arrived, and people that have arrived and let. The federal data does not show how many visas remain unused.

    The State Department has also granted visas to 195,000 Nigerians. That’s important, because Nigeria is very close to the infected countries. However, Nigerian officials and Western aid workers have blocked one Ebola outbreak in Nigeria, which infected 19 people.

    The State Department’s website shows how many visas have been awarded to people in various countries. The total numbers have to be reduced because visas typical expire after one year or two years.

    Section 212(a) of the Immigration and Naturalization Act allows the federal government to exclude visitors who may be carrying diseases.

    Visitors with “a physical or mental disorder and behavior associated with the disorder that may pose, or has posed, a threat to the property, safety, or welfare of the alien or others … is inadmissible,” says the law.

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  • Dave of OK

    it kind of puzzles me why the hardest hit country in Western Africa is Liberia, which is the only Christian country in the area. Now that the country is devastated it is going to be a pushover for a Muslim take over.

  • Priszilla

    Good. Nobody in africa is vaccinated either. Hence nothing to worry about that any traveller from there will bring any disease.

    • Lt

      You are a vaccinated troll.

  • Mathapelo Lesego Mamogobo

    This Ebola is reality that needs many need to respond to quickly and remain in ignorance.

  • B0MB3RM4N1

    I like your articles, but “let us hope that this doesn’t happen” in every article sounds ridiculous. Obviously, this will happen, because this is inevitable and you know that

  • jane bobsky

    Hope is not a strategy. Open borders, no travel ban on Africa. What could go wrong?

  • NeverMore

    I saw an article on BBC last week that said they ran blood tests on him but didn’t test for Ebola because that information was not passed on to the doctors that saw him.

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