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The Massive Tidal Wave Of Illegal Immigration That Threatens To Destroy The United States Economy

According to some estimates, there are as many as 30 million illegal aliens in the United States today.  The vast majority of them pay absolutely no federal or state income taxes.  And yet they seem more than happy to take advantage of the free social services and benefits offered to them.  In fact, stories of how "good" life in America is just encourages more and more immigrants to come to the United States illegally.  Not that all immigration is bad.  The United States will always be able to use immigrants who come in the "front door" legally.  In fact, my wife is originally from Canada.  But those who would break the law by entering the U.S. illegally also are the same kind of people who are serial criminals, join gangs, deal drugs, bring diseases and are economic parasites.  So can the U.S. economy ever fully recover if we continue to carry tens of millions of illegal aliens on our backs?  If Barack Obama and the U.S. Congress open the door for illegal aliens even further, will it create a social and economic nightmare that none of us would even dare to imagine? 

Today, there are approximately 20 million American workers who are unemployed or who are underemployed. More than 36 million Americans are on food stamps and that number continues to increase each month. Over 13 million American children now live in poverty. We cannot provide for the people that are already here, and yet the U.S. government is making virtually no effort to stem the flood of illegal immigrants that are streaming into this nation.  

In fact, it is projected that the United States will add another 100 million people over the next 25 years. Where in the world will they get jobs? How in the world will we take care of them all?

With the U.S. economy already on the verge of complete and total collapse, can we afford to continue to allow the problem citizens of other nations to pour into ours?  Already, drug violence has turned many areas of northern Mexico into absolute war zones.  Juarez, Mexico (which is just across the U.S. border) has become the murder capital of the western hemisphere.  Much of that violence has begun to spill over into areas of the southwestern United States. 

For example, NPR recently described one incident in the Juarez Valley that involved American citizens....

A couple of weeks ago, gunmen in the Juarez Valley killed the Mexican relative of a Fort Hancock high school student. When the student's family in Fort Hancock heard about it, they crossed the border at 10 a.m. to see the body, and took the student with them.

"By 10:30, they had stabbed the relatives that went with him, which included his grandparents, with an ice pick," says school superintendent Jose Franco. "My understanding is that the gentleman is like 90 years old, and they poked his eyes out with an ice pick. I believe those people are still in intensive care here in a hospital in the U.S."

Is this how we want to live?

To illustrate how draining illegal immigration is on the U.S. economy, an anonymous piece that has been floating around the Internet entitled "Joe versus Jose" is reproduced below.  Try not to get too angry as you read this....

*****

Here is an example of why hiring illegal aliens is not economically
productive for the State of California...or any other state for that matter.

You have 2 families..."Joe Legal" and "Jose Illegal". Both families have
2 parents, 2 children and live in California . "Joe Legal" works in
construction, has a Social Security Number, and makes $25.00 per hour
with payroll taxes deducted.... "Jose Illegal" also works in construction,
has "NO" Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash per hour
"under the table".

Joe Legal...

$25.00 per hour x 40 hours $1000.00 per week, $52,000 per year...
Now take 30% away for state & federal tax...
Joe Legal now has $31,231.00

Jose Illegal...

$15.00 per hour x 40 hours $600.00 per week, $31,200.00 per year...
Jose Illegal pays no taxes...
Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00

Joe Legal pays Medical and Dental Insurance with limited coverage
$1000.00 per month $12,000.00 per year
Joe Legal now has $19,231.00

Jose Illegal has full Medical and Dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year
Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00

Joe Legal makes too much money to be eligible for Food Stamps or welfare - Joe Legal pays for food $1,000.00 per month $12,000.00
per year - Joe Legal now has $ 7,231.00

Jose Illegal has no documented income, so he is eligible for Food Stamps and Welfare - Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00

Joe Legal pays rent $1,000.00 per month - $12,000.00 per year
Joe Legal is now in the hole minus (-) $4,769.00

Jose Illegal receives a $500 per month Federal rent subsidy...
Jose Illegal pays rent $500.00 per month (section 8 housing)
$6,000.00 per year - Jose Illegal still has $25,200.00

Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job
after work or his wife must work. Jose Illegal has nights and
weekends off to enjoy with his family (and eat out!).

Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same school.
Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches
Jose Illegal's children get a government sponsored breakfast & lunch,
and they also qualify to be bused to school at taxpayer expense.

Jose Illegal's children have an after school ESL program.
Joe Legal's children have to find a way to get to school and go home
after school as, "latch-key kids" with no adult supervision.

Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services,
but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.

Jose Illegal can send most of his money back home to Mexico to build a
new home for retirement, and have money to buy a new truck
(and still have Medi-Cal benefits while living in a foreign country;
until someone turns him in to authorities....if they ever find out)

Joe Legal is still in the hole.

Any questions?

*****

But an even bigger problem may be the rampant lawlessness that many of these illegal aliens bring.  Crime, gangs and drug dealing are dramatically exploding all the way from Texas to southern California. 

There are fewer and fewer areas that you can call "safe" in the southwestern United States.

But now Barack Obama and the U.S. Congress want to give illegal aliens amnesty. 

If Barack Obama's amnesty for illegal aliens gets passed, will more ranchers like Rob Krentz get murdered?

Trying to make an honest and safe living anywhere near the Mexican border is becoming a very difficult thing to do.

In fact, one sheriff recently told the residents of one Texas border town that they better "arm themselves".  As he warned them of the dangers that they are now facing, he delivered this sobering warning....

"As they say the old story is, it's better to be tried by 12 than carried by six. Damn it, I don't want to see six people carrying you."

Immigrants that are going to be productive members of society are going to come in legally.  But we have made the legal process for immigrating extremely complex and very expensive.  So we have actually discouraged legal immigration while at the same time highly rewarding those who come in illegally.  What kind of sense does that make?

Of course it seems like very little of what our political leaders do these days makes sense.  As the number of illegal aliens increases to 40 million or even 50 million, what in the world is that going to do to America?

And once the damage is done, is there any chance that it can ever be reversed?

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  • http://dickcheneysadick.com Mr. Common Sense

    What kind of useless xenophobic crap is that ?
    We want educated comments on the crisis, not Palinoïa !
    I feel sorry you have dropped your mask.

  • Allen R.

    This is nothing more than a collection of inaccurate exaggerations designed to scape goat one segment of the population against a weaker portion of the population. And it’s crap. The author has clearly clumped all immigrants into one vague, welfare consuming blob without so much a mention that most people on welfare are, in fact, not immigrants at all. Most people on welfare are citizens, a good majority of them are white. But this article has nothing to do with welfare or the effect it has on society; it’s simple an anti-Mexican, almost painfully obvious racist article using fake “facts.”

    • Admin

      The sad thing is that anyone who speaks out against illegal immigration is immediately labeled “racist” by the hotheads on the other side of the debate.

      If you knew me, you would know that I am not, and never will be, racist.

      The lowliest beggar in Mexico City has just as much value as any person in the United States.

      This is not about racism at all.

      What it is about is an illegal immigration policy that penalizes those who try to come into the United States legally, and yet highly rewards those who willingly break the law.

      This is about trying to keep an unlimited number of criminals, gang members, drug dealers and social welfare parasites from pouring into this nation and causing social chaos.

      Legal immigration is a good thing.

      Everyone should come in through the front door.

      But calling me a racist because I am against illegal immigration is just plain wrong.

      You don’t know how incredibly wrong you are.

  • Mr Pike

    The damage has been done, it is too late, and Joe Legal deserves what has happened to him because he did not fight against the thieves who have already destroyed his country for a fast buck. The 2 million legal immigrants allowed in with work visas every year are also here by request of the same traitor thieves and should be allowed to enter since no one is putting up a fight against them and since it doesn’t matter anymore if they take an American’s job or not. There’s no difference between illegal and legal immigration when they are both being allowed for the same reasons. Maybe if this violence gets severe enough Americans will wake up but I doubt it. This reminds me of the Colonel in charge of the construction in “The Bridge Over The River Quai”. We have a history of obeying the authorities and don’t know what to do when it is obvious that they no longer deserve to be obeyed. For the most part they are bribed criminals who do not care about us at all. This kind of immigration is being allowed by governments of many countries convincing me along with many other things that this is all about one world government. I hope that government adopts our Constitution so that I can be a citizen. If not then I will be a criminal. There must be something in the food or water.

  • Tom

    I agree with you, Allen. All one needs to do is to look at the photo attached to this story to see what the author’s true feelings are. It’s racist and inflammatory pure and simple. Real classy, Economic Collapse.

  • tyler

    Illegal immigrants suck. They don’t even speak english.

  • Bob

    Inwas disappointed to see this twitted by liberty ideals. Saying that anyone who breaks arbitrary laws is Somehow similar to serial criminals is absurd. I speed every day; I must be an evil person. I agree that I shouldn’t be forced to pay for benefits for illegal immigrants, but that’s a government problem, not an immigration problem.

  • Ann

    YOU STUPID BUNCH OF MORONS WILL PUT THE WORD “RACIST” ON ANYTHING THAT YOU DON’T AGREE WITH. YOU BETTER WAKE UP SOON OR IT WILL BE TOO LATE FOR YOU…..IDIOTS!!!!!

  • Mr Pike

    Good article Economic Collapse. There was nothing racist in it, only facts. There is nothing racist in making the observation although it may be inflammatory but factual, and anti-Mexican since Mexicans are the ones invading, that immigration legal and illegal are contributing to the destruction of our economy. The photo was very representative of the audacious attitude that a very large percentage of Mexican illegal immigrants have. I have seen that attitude in all of their marches protesting the terrible treatment that they are receiving here. I usually call them illegal aliens, is that racist or offensive? If so why? A majority of them seem to me to have a higher opinion of their race than of other races and that is the definition of racism. How does La Raza translate into English? That is a fact and therefore not a racist statement. People have to start thinking and feeling for themselves and not accepting the political correctness taught to them from everyone and everywhere these days. It’s like high school peer pressure, people adopt it to be accepted and quickly believe it with no reasoning involved. Sure it’s wonderful to feel love and compassion but just not all of the time and in every situation. It would be great to have a Grizzly Bear for a pet.

  • Lunatic Fringe

    Wow. What a bunch of whiny ass comments.

    Illegal immigration is a crime. Our government has once again failed us. Greedy American businesses needed cheap imported labor and our government turned a blind eye. Illegal aliens are a horrendous strain on infrastructure, schools, welfare, huge drains on hospitals and clinics, jails and prisons, highways. They contribute virtually nothing in taxes.

    That’s how it is with the whiners. Criticize the Prez for poor performance-get called a racist. Identify a problem primarily with Hispanic immigration and get called a racist. Thankfully we have the deep thinking whiners and their attack speech patrolling the perimeters and alerting us with their jaded opinions. Deep thinking. Nyet, Komrade.

    The worst part is that a government that let them break the law, now wants to grant 30 million potential Democrats amnesty. That’s quite a voting block for a marxist President that wants to stay in power.

  • http://FlusterCucked.blogspot.com Frank the Underemployed Professional

    The author didn’t do a great job of explaining why mass immigration, both legal and illegal, is a problem. So, I will help him. There are many very legitimate economic reasons for opposing mass immigration that have nothing to do with xenophobia or racism. Those are just smears that supporters of mass immigration use because they do not want to address the real economic issues nor even acknowledge the environmental issues.

    No discussion of immigration should take place without a prior viewing of this video in full. This video is a must watch for anyone who is at all concerned about this issue:

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5871651411393887069#

    First, illegal immigration is destructive because the illegals depress wages for Americans and displace Americans from jobs they might otherwise do. There is no such thing as a legitimate job that Americans will not do for the right price, which should be set by an American free market. (Americans will even work very dangerous jobs, such as coal mining.)

    We are going to take care of poor Americans anyway, so the question becomes, are we better off paying welfare, education, health care, and any criminal justice costs for poor Americans alone (employed at these poverty-wage jobs) or would we be better off paying to care for unemployed poor Americans AND for illegal aliens and their families? We aren’t gaining anything by importing tens of millions of impoverished people–we’re just making some Americans even poorer than they are now.

    Note also that many of the jobs the illegals are taking are not agricultural jobs, but jobs that Americans have traditionally done such as meat packing, janitorial services, and construction (which used to be a lower middle class field).

    The other problem with mass immigration–the one few people understand or are aware of, is population explosion. A higher population means having a greater strain on our nation’s environment. (Do we benefit from having more pollution?) It also means that we will become poorer because we will have fewer resources per capita. We will have less land, less freshwater, fewer energy resources, less timber, and less high quality farmland per capita. When the demand for resources increases but the supply of those resources remains the same, the price of those resources must increase. This means that population explosion will result in a decreased standard of living for Americans.

    If you are an American and you want Americans to have a high quality of life, then you should oppose mass immigration, both legal and illegal.

    Frank the Underemployed Professional
    http://FlusterCucked.blogspot.com

  • Michael Scott

    Sorry to see such hostility directed at the writer. I’ve lived in California for 44 years, and agree with everything this essay says. Illegal immigration has ruined California and it’s long past the point of no return. People offended by the author’s assertions have clearly never been here and seen it first-hand, and are completely ignorant of reality.

    The United States of America is going to end up just like Yugoslavia did, with everything that goes with that. Like it or not and believe it or not, it’s coming, and it’s going to be worse than anyone can presently imagine.

  • Dan

    This website is exposed as a right wing piece of ****.

    This explains why my legitimate comments have been twice removed.

    This website is removed from my links.

    By the way, go to hell.

  • Flor

    So you guys are saying it is okay for non- Americans to enter US illegally and telling the hard truth about them is racism? Has rule of law beome passe?

  • Concerned Reader

    I do not understand what all of you are getting at by calling the author of this site a racist. What the author says is in fact true and feel free to call me a racist if you want to do it.

    The fact of the matter is that what is stated in this article is undeniably true. Kudos to the writer for bringing this subject up. Although I have met plenty of mexican people who are very hard working and always smile when they see you walk past them, Mexico is with out a doubt a dire thret to the United States in more ways than one. It is a much bigger threat than Iran and North Korea, or even Al Queda. Glenn Beck said it best about a year ago, he basically stated that Mexico will lead to the down fall of America and it seems like it may very well happen.

    Basically a civil war is taking place within Mexico and from what I have read and heared about the situation, it seems like the narco gangs are winning the war. Some experts have predicted the eventual fall of the Mexican governemt within five years. The Zetas, a Mexican specieal forces team that was created to combat the narco gangs and they trained in Fort Benning and now they are teaming up with the naro gangs. Their police and military are now joining forces with the narco gang as well.

    Once this terror begins to expand across the border in full force no one will be worried about being called a racist, they will be worried about defending their homes and families. This is why I favor removing the troops from such places as Japan and South Korea and placing them on our southern border to protect our citizens.

    What is truelly sad about this situation is the human toll, particularly in regards to the immigrants. Alot of these people are coming here to pursue a better life and I understand that and Identify it, but the entire world can not come to our shores in the mass droves that did in the past. People have to make their natives contries work in their favor instead of conducting mass migrations. We are already seeing the fading of the american dream in alot of peoples live. Close to 40 million people are subsisting on food stamps because they can not afford to feed themselves. Massive home forclosures couple with tent citites popping up all over the country. An escalating nation debt that is pushing itself towards 14 trillion dollars with over 50 trillion in entitlement cost such as social security and medicare. We are being bled dry in two needless wars that have no long term benefits for this country along with a plethora of other problems that begining to manifest themselves and slap the common citizen in the face. Let’s take care of our own citizens first before we worry about the world.

  • jumpback

    no one has explained to me how the US could deport 30 million people and then keep them out.

  • http://globalglassonion.blogspot.com/ rjs
  • Spencer

    I often question if the upcoming depression will cause a world war – and this blog entry reminds me of how it could.

    I once had a roomate who made the claim that if Canada’s dollar stayed ahead of the US dollar then the US would just invade Canada. I laughed at how ludicrous it sounded but as time passes I begin to wonder if this is possible. I reckon there are more Americans who think like him then like me, there are likely more Americans who think that the answer to debt is to stiff the rest of the world, steal if from the wealthy, or continue taking what they have by force. This blog entry reminds me how some people will see calamity come and use it as an excuse for bigotry and xenophobia. If America hits a depression, will the masses be able to accept a prolonged session of poverty after such a long period of prosperity? Or will this provide the perfect bed of anger/frustration/hatred to usher in a new hitler-like fascist to focus this fear and agression on other nations?

    I hope for my children’s sake that America will bite the bullet and face the tough times ahead with courage. But if people continue to blame politicians, the wealthy or illigal immigration rather then unsustainable over consumption….then the chance they’ll take responsibility for their actions is minimal.

  • Bill Hicks

    I was also disturbed by the racist overtones of the story. This was a poor posting for what is otherwise an insightful blog.

    I would also add that the economic collapse is going to very much curtail our illegal immigration problem. Despite the paranoia of this post, most “Joe Illegals” come here to work (and the real villans are the ****bag employers, not the workers). When the jobs, particularly in construction, dry up many will leave. There have been numerous stories indicating that this is already happening.

  • http://www.survivallab.blogspot.com/ Don

    Well, there you went and did it! ANYONE that speaks out against illegally entering this country is going to be demonized as a “xenophobe” or a “racist.”

    You are obviously located in Haterville, drinking Haterade, you are a Hating Hater who Hates. GOOD!

    If a person doesn’t accept every, single facet of the homosexual lifestyle, they are a “homophobe.”

    When will people tire of this nonsense and simply laugh in the face of anyone brazen enough to make these accusations?

    The liberals or lefties, or whatever we wish to call them, in this series of comments, they don’t really quite grasp what they are accusing you of. The RIGHT WING SUPPORTS ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AS WELL! You’re sitting there calling him a “right wing piece of sh*t” and you don’t even know what you’re talking about! Out of one side of your face you would call George W. Bush a “right winger” and then you would call someone who is against illegally entering this country a “right winger.” He supported this, he opened the floodgates, the former president legitimized illegally entering this country and basically legalized it through non-enforcement of illegal immigration laws, policies, rules and regulations.

    There are four types of people right now.

    Those that don’t know and don’t care, the ignorant and apathetic among us…they watch Jerry Springer reruns and they know the cost of bread, milk and toilet paper are going up but they cannot quite grasp why.

    Then there are the people who believe Rush Limbaugh and his spinoffs and clones. Greed is good, never saw a smokestack they didn’t like and they’re delusional.

    Then there are the left wing lunatrons who want electric cars but don’t want coal or nuclear for electricity production and think we can pull electricity out of our ass…in a very real way, these types of people are mentally retarded.

    Then there are the rest of us that sit and point our fingers and laugh at the rest of you as we watch you struggle with simple concepts that a chimp could understand but those simple concepts seem to always elude you. Funny, that.

    So, go ahead and prove the Owner of this Blog correct! Show him what non-thinking little monkies you are.

    Imbeciles.

  • http://www.survivallab.blogspot.com/ Don

    Oh yeah, by the way. My rent on a two bedroom apartment is just a few dollars away from $1,000.00 per month and the figures listed in the article are correct, the way the system is being played is correct. I have neighbors who have greatly reduced rent, not totally free, but there are other apartment complexes where it is totally free.

    I get their medical bills from their wives and girlfriends having children, where they deliberately give the wrong address just a number or apartment designation off.

    So, don’t tell me they’re “productive Citizens.” Number one, they’re not Citizens and number two, they are making some contractor incredibly wealthy, or a restaraunt owner…that needs to stop.

  • Dan

    Admin:

    Your statement that there is not a racist bone in your body cannot be taken at face value when you publish such an inflammatory photo at the top of your article.

    The photo is truly offensive, not so much because of what is shown but because it attempts to characterize an entire layer of people in an out of context and misleading fashion.

    The photo alone is a blatant attempt to inflame based on ‘race,’ pure and simple. Your insistence that there is no racist component or mass appeal to racism is simply not credible.

    National Review and other right wing publications publish similar inflammatory photos on the cover of their rags and then also posture that it is not about ‘race’ but all about following the ‘law.’ Its a well-worn path both in the right wing mainstream media and right wing blogosphere.

    Whether you want to call it racism, chauvinism, or a poor choice of photos (which you have not), the intention is to appeal on an emotional ant gut level to the basest instincts of people on the issue of ‘illegal immigration.’

    This does not even go to the substance, or lack thereof, of the article itself, which is, for the most part, absurd.

    Forget ‘illegals’.. nearly 50 percent of American tax filers will pay no federal income taxes in 2009. Half of them earn too little and the other half receive tax credits — the Earned Income Tax Credit, child-care credits, subsidies for college and savings — worth more than their tax burden.

    As for the wages used in an example.. 15 dollars an hour for illegals and 25 dollars for legal immigrants, I can only say, what planet are you living on? None that suffers from the consequences of the ‘economic collapse’ that this website professes to be about, I would say.

    Auto workers in the rust belt start out at less than $15.00 an hour these days. Jobless Americans are lucky to find a job paying $10.00. Many completely legal workers are making less – 7 or 8 dollars an hour and, it goes without saying, no benefits.

    While the article is bogus, the photo is simply nothing short of an appeal to violence against those already most exploited workers in the the country – and a layer of workers that agribusiness, construction outfits and the domestics industries absolutely rely on because so few Americans will subject themselves to such super-exploitation.

    But never mind the substance of the article, or any other on this blog. The photo accompanying this piece says it all.

  • ANNIE OAKLEY

    Jumpback – We deported massive amounts of illegals out of the US in 1931, 1951 and in Los Angeles in 1976. We have far better planes and technology in 2010 than we did then, so yes we can deport them and we should now.

    Mr. Common Sense, Allen R, Tom, BB, Dan, Jumpback and Bill Hicks – you’re all clueless.

    Illegal aliens have killed California. I’ve seen it in the last 19 years I’ve lived here. You cannot sustain a population of those who pay very little in taxes without an economic collapse.

    They refuse to learn the language which would allow them to access our educational system to better their lives and ours in this country.

    Women sneak across the border daily here, drop a kid in the US hospital, now the kid is a US citizen and fully entitled to WIC, foodstamps, AFDC and other benefits to Momma, including Earned Income Credit if Momma gets a job.

    Why should a business hire me for a decent wage when he can get an illegal for half the price?

    They also move here 10 to a house creating a huge traffic density and an enormous strain on our social infrastructure system, energy, water and other services.

    If you think the author is being racist then I’m going to accuse you all of being anti-American. It makes no sense to bring in foreigners when we have Americans losing their homes on a daily basis and Americans exhausting their unemployment benefits.

    Deport them now. They need to stay in their own country and fix their own internal problems.

    People in CA are sick of them. And if you gentleman think they’re so great, why don’t you take care of them? I’m sure they’d love the free handouts.

  • bronze

    it will only get worse. when they dont find work they will do crime. i live n mexico. when they cant commit enough crimes in the usa they return to mexico. (they rob the americans who retire here, go to those communities. the americans are a magnet for this stuff. they love the poor mexican, but that another post). or the returnees do kidnapping which is very popular. they kidnap anybody. now they kill them after they get the ransom. in general americans are morons, idiots. but i am impressed by most of the comments i just read! more people think as i do & have for many years!

  • bronze

    more on mexicans: most will turn on you. they hate us! there are very very few honest mexicans. its taken me years to find them. i know this information. my families lived here for 20 plus years they retired here. mexico is not all a resort, its a filthy place w/little morality. they have no respect for them selves how can they respect the usa? most decent mexicans dont need to come to the usa.

  • Unclelesha

    Sorry, but $52,000-30%=$36,400

  • Joe

    While America fights an illegal war, we are been invaded and before we know it America will not be what we know it to be.
    Wake up, the invasion is underway.

  • Mainstream

    Another insightful and painfully accurate article concerning the illegal immigration issue and how the problem is helping to destroy the United States. The Anti-American comments from those supposedly “anti-racist” posters shed light on their true feelings. They hate America and they are reflexively anti-American! Their comments are analogous to the results from the Pavlov dog experiments; ring a bell and the dog drools. Write an article on illegal immigration and the anti-Americans cry racism. Too bad their simple minds can’t grasp how illegal immigration is undermining the United States’ culture and values.

  • Guy T

    We don’t need to deport them if we pass Tough Immigration Employment Laws and rigorously enforce them. (Yes, we have laws that are not being enforced but those laws are also not tough enough). If they can not find a job And can not get any government benefits because of Tough laws then most of the Illegal immigrants will go back home on their own. The remaining illegal immigrants will mostly be the Criminals, and we can then focus on getting rid of those people through police enforcement.
    We also need to repeal the law allowing someone to come here just to have a kid and then automatically be a citizen. If someone comes here Illegally then they should be sent back home after being released from the hospital With their baby and that baby should NOT automatically become a citizen. I feel sorry for their kid, but I do not feel that our system should be required to accept them just because they have a kid here if they are here Illegally! If they are here Legally, I have no problem with the child automatically being a citizen.
    I also do Not believe in Amnesty for Illegals! They came here Illegally and should ALL be treated as Criminals.
    All this being said, I Do believe that we need to make it easier for people to come here Legally. We need MAJOR immigration law reform!

  • Realist

    Damn I hate the race card. We are so scared to be politically incorrect and offending other races when in fact we are being threatend ourselves.

    Immigration will be the downfall of most 1st world countries. Im not american but Im sure as hell smart enough to see the effects of Immigration.

    People need to wake up and stop being so scared of being labelled a racist!

  • Hopium

    Screw all you immigrant slim-balls. And that is not racist, just a big F-U.

  • Dan

    I would like to thank the administrator for publishing my comments above.

    However, I would also like to point out that nobody published herein, including the administrator, has responded in any way to my argument that the photo accompanying this article, in and of itself (and not the substance of the article or subsequent reader comments – another matter), constitutes a blatant playing of the ‘race’ card.

    There are, however, many subsequent postings that essentially consist of broad generalizations and slanders of a racial nature. This confirms my argument that the photo (and article) has succeeded in eliciting the backwards and emotional response that was intended.

  • ross

    We`re dealing with the same sh*t here in the UK, again here in the UK anyone who dare question this kind of thing is branded a racist.
    Alot of rich business men are making money out of this cheap labour (think building company and factory owners here) which undermines local workers and their salary, these vested interests is why few in power want to deal with the issue, either themselves or their fund raisers are directly profiting from it.

  • Concerned Reader

    I would bet my last dollar that all of the people on here talking about how the author is racist is probably the type of people who employ illegal aliens and you are affraid that forums like this will gain momentumand your cheap labor will have to go away. I can imagine all of you so called racist haters writing on this forum while about ten illegal aliens are working in your yard.

    Look at the topic in this regard. If we grant amnesty to the estimated 30 million migrant workers in this country they will chain migrate tens of millions of their friends and family accross the border and we will eventually over load our carrying capacity. We are already having trouble feeding, employing, educating, incarcerating and housing our own country men, how can we accomodate these people and our own without having large numbers people with absolutely nothing.

    What is truely frightning is what will happen once the growing latino population, which is predominently catholic, will clash with the growing black population, which is becoming increasingly islamic by the day. All of you liberals will be really crying racism when you are caught in the cross fire between these groups.

    My biggest problem is the fact that none of these immigrants attempt to learn or speak english. There is a flea market where I go to shop and there are atleast twenty different languages being spoken at one time and especially spanish. This is one reason why our schools are failing because we the tax payers fork over atleast $2000 per student in the ESL program to teach a child to say, “How are you?” instead of “Como Estas?” and it seems like it is not working.

    Despite my comments and they may seem prejudice, at the core I have much compassion and humility for these folks. I undestand that they are seeking a better life and I would do the same if I were in their position. However, due to the shape that this country is in at the current moment, we should focus on our own citizens lives first so that they can have a chance.

    Laslty, what kind of example doe illegal immigration set for the youth of this country? I hear all the time on this forum about how young peole are lazy and self-centered, but would putting them in the place of migrant workers help them develop a work ethic? I am 21-years-old and those jobs should be available to the youth so that they can have jobs.

    I recommend the works of a man by the name of Frosty Wooldridge, a very popular anti-illegal immigration activist.

    http://www.newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frostyA1.htm

  • http://www.protohuman.blogspot.com/ StaticNoise

    Dan – yeah you “I’m offended by the picture” Dan. Did it ever occur to you that the photo was meant to expressly piss people off? That it was not placed there to subliminally incite anger!!! We are pissed off. We are just as mad at the corrupt politicians and the businessmen who exploit them as we are at the illegals themselves who exploit our charitble little hearts. If you refuse to see the truth of the situation – as many California residents who have commented here have offered – then feel free to be offended by a completely rational reaction to said truth. We simply don’t live in a kumbayah world – this isn’t a Coca Cola commercial where everyone sings in harmony.

  • http://FlusterCucked.blogspot.com Frank the Underemployed Professional

    I find it very telling that so far, none of the people who are accusing the article’s author of racism have been able to put forth a solid economic argument to explain why mass immigration is in Americans’ rational selfish economic interests. All the supporters of mass immigration and illegal immigration can do is smear people who are concerned about the welfare of American citizens with smears of racism and xenophobia. That’s the extent of their intellectual arguments and capacity.

    Frank the Underemployed Professional
    http://FlusterCucked.blogspot.com

  • Austinite with facts

    Well, I stopped at a grocery store briefly one day to get an item and when I returned to my car, by car had been T-boned by an illegal who had no ID, no driver’s license, no registration, no green card, and on top of that, he had borrowed his friend’s car that had faulty brakes. I, on the other hand, had to carry ID and insurance and abide by all of the laws. The cop who was there told me that he could do nothing about this guy’s illegal status. You can bet I was steamed by the fact that I have to shell out money to pay for a license and insurance, but apparently, illegals are not required to have any responsibility whatsoever. I have also witnessed a few traffic accidents here in Austin, Texas, committed by illegals who then jump out and run like hell away from the scene. When I have called the APD, they never sent anyone to the scene even after waiting for over an hour each time. My insurance rates have to cover these illegals who don’t have to carry any such insurance.

  • Concerned Reader

    Another reason to consider the human toll of illegal immigration is the fact that it is 21st century slave labor. Basically the government, big buisness and private citizens have reinvented the slave trade. We have just traded Africa for Mexico and south America. Modern day Mexicans are really in the same posiyion as blacks were in the 1800s. Slavery is immoral and wrong and everyone who hires illegal aliens in this country should be funed $10,000 per head or do prison time up to five years.

    Secondly, what about all of the diseases that the illegals may have that they will be exposing all of us to. There are plenty of new illnesses like drug resistent tuberculosis, MRSA, various types of flu, among others. As more mass migrations become more prevalent in the future, you will have to become more accustom to massive pandemic outbreaks like the swine flu of 2009. The third world squalor that these folks live in their native countries help breed such illnesses and first world countries like America have no immunity to what they have. When a population ha mo immunity to a virus, it spreads faster in a population and its death toll is always high. Remember that these folks are working in meat packing factories and resturants where are food is preped, cooked and handled, it almost makes me not want to eat at the thought of contracting any of theses illnesses.

    Third, Mexico is not really a third world country. I will let you have a minute to take that into your mind. Mexico is a member of the G20 summit and they are supposedly the 11th largest economy in the world based on GDP. This means there are much poorer nations in the world. However, Mexico has virtually no middle class, they have an extreme rich class and an extreme poor class. Rather than spread the wealt towards their impoverished citizens, the rich class of mexico encourage them to migrate north and send remittances back home where the rich class takes a large cut for themselves. Carlos Slim, the richest man in the world with an estimated networth 53 billion dollars. He is richer than Bill Gates, this should tell you something. He got rich mainly by exploiting his own people.

  • Lenny Pike

    I have been a taxi driver based on Hilton Head Island for 23 years. I am sure that there are very few places in the U.S. that have been changed more drastically due to illegal immigration. Could this be what all of the U.S. looks like some day? Until 1993 the island’s population consisted of very wealthy North Easterners mainly from New York and their poor Southern employees from Hilton Head and the surrounding towns. The island was a very well developed resort built and staffed by these Americans. By 2005 I would estimate that at the most 5% of the workforce was Americans. This drastically reduced my income because many American workers used taxis to get to and from work and they would always call a taxi when they had too much to drink. The illegal aliens (90% Mexican, 10% rest of Central America) had their own clandestine taxi services obeying none of the regulations or paying taxes to get to and from their jobs. When they did drink and drive which was about every time they drank, and crashed their cars, they would take legal taxis home because the Sheriff’s Department would call a legal taxi service to come and pick them up. Three times I was called to pick up and take home extremely drunk illegal aliens after they crashed their cars causing injuries (one very serious) to the victims with absolutely no legal consequences. This is how valued their cheap labor was on Hilton Head. At the DMV a sign at the entrance read: “If you do not have the necessary documents to apply for a drivers license ask us and we will help you”, but a drivers license was not required by the police so I never understood that sign. I can’t remember how many times after several polite beeps of my horn that I finally laid on it because an illegal alien driver would not make a turn when he had the green arrow at a stop light because they were waiting for the green light to come on. Once I was in traffic court due to just barely not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign because traffic laws were very strictly enforced against Americans mainly tourists and the few remaining poor Americans. On that day in court the courtroom was filled with close to 100 violators but not one single illegal alien (yes I did racially profile, does that make me a racist?) what are the odds especially considering the fact that they were not required to learn the rules of the road? My wife is Brazilian and she is here legally. I filled out a stack of immigration forms myself 5 inches high, paid thousands of dollars in fees and jumped through many hoops the same ones many times and waited 1 and 1/2 years for her to be allowed into the U.S.. No one would give her a job on Hilton Head because she was legal. my brother is married to a woman from the Phillipines which was the exact same situation as my Wife’s. He was smart, he hired a lawyer who was part or the corrupt system. My brother paid less than I had to pay for the fees because immigration employees were paid to obtain a very quick entry of 2 months. More than half of all of the employees of the immigration department of DHS were at one time.under investigation for taking bribes. A building boom like no other took place from 2000 to 2007 just off the small island. Most of the poorly built tract homes were sold to illegal aliens who received mortgages easily from our corrupt bankers. Crime, traffic, drug dealing ensued. It’s a great place now. At least the great American ex-employees from the South don’t have to live there anymore. Hope they were able to find a better place.

  • Dan

    I would like to suggest that the financial and ruling elite – that is, those moneyed interests who call all the shots economically and politically in this country and internationally, including with regard to immigration and illegal immigration policy, are very happy to see working people channeling their anger and frustration on layers of workers even more exploited than they.

    It should be self-evident (though still is not largely to the pervasive right wing media and blogosphere) that it is much better for the powers that be that workers remain at each other’s throats, both domestically through appeals to race and xenophobia and internationally through nationalism, chauvinism and flag-waving, rather than the alternative of workers turning their wrath on the privileged layers of society who most benefit from the political and economic status quo. This includes those who are in control both major political parties in the US and all the major media.

    On behalf of those hoping to keep the current socioeconomic system intact, if not even more exploitive (as we will see in the months and years ahead), I would like to commend you.

    Well done!

  • Concerned Reader

    We do not have the infrastructure to accomodate a large population growth. All of our major cities and even towns are becoming so crowded that you can hardly drive any where without being stuck in traffic. I read a report a whil that stated that America is going to add another 10 million cars on its road in the next 10-15 years. Our infrastructure is crumbling with no sign of relief. I fear that we will plunder our road to the point that not even a bicycle can function on them.

  • Lenny Pike

    Dan:

    If your comments were directed at what I said about about Hilton Head, SC., read it again. My anger IS aimed at the financial and ruling elite and not the illegal aliens. Also most people who post on this blog do not want to keep the current socioeconomic system intact. The current socioeconomic system is run by the financial and ruling elite whom you were critical of. Then why would you want to keep the current socioeconomic system intact? We want it to be given back to the people which means a return to the U.S. Constitution, which primarily means shutting down the Federal Reserve and returning to sound money. These crimes are much more difficult to pull off with sound money. Maybe I’m wrong but it sounds like you don’t agree very much with the principles found in the U.S. Constitution. That’s what divides all people into two camps; those who are for and those who are against those types of principles. The entire world can’t come to the United States. This isn’t about immigration, a one world government with absolutely no travel or trade restrictions would be fine with me as long as it was governed by the principles of the United States Constitution. If that were true now, no one would be wanting to come to the U.S. now. Soon no one is going to want to come here because our Constitution is not being enforced. Nationalism and flag waving differ from country to country. Those flags represent something. What did our flag represent at one time? What do the hammer and cycle represent?

  • Concerned Reader

    Here is an excerpt from Frosty Wooldridge:

    Examples explode across America: 76 percent dropout rate in Detroit, Michigan high schools. Entrenched poverty. An astounding $35 million in goods shoplifted every day in America, honor killings of women now in America, mosques growing like flies in a barnyard, Muslim shootouts with FBI agents, first call for Sharia Law to be implemented in Detroit, Islamic calls to worship sounding over the once all American city. Another city, Los Angeles slowly returns to Mexican authority, language and culture. Every girl past 15 features a baby and most of those mothers cannot read past the fourth grade or work simple math. The Mexican “18th Street Gang” of 20,000 illegal aliens controls the drug trade in much of LA and police will not venture into their ghettos. MS-13 now in 40 American states. Millions of pounds of trash must be picked up as it is tossed all over LA. Chicago, Miami and Houston feature gangs, drugs and worse—all caused by mass immigration. Phoenix, Arizona features an astounding annual car theft rate of 57,000 vehicles to become the new “Car Theft Capital of the World.” That state also features 460,000 illegal aliens.

  • Kolja2003

    Greeting from Russia.

    We also has the big illigal population about 12 mlns against 150 mlns alltogether.
    But our illigals are not such violent or requesting as I red about yours here.

    So my question is : How you allowed that americans? Where was your eyes?

    Send illigals back until it is too late.

  • Concerned Reader

    I have read that Russia is currently experiencing a massive influx of muslims into their country. All the while thier own population is decreasing along with that of Europe. Estimates figure that Russia will be fourty percent muslim within thirty years. This is imilar to America and its growing latino population.

  • Texas

    The problem is real, and its not all about racism. This is the United States of America, and we have laws against illegal immigration; and they should be enforced. All illegal immigrants need to be deported immediately. There is a process to enter this country lawfully, if you desire citizenship, do it the right way. No free passes need to be handed out to a bunch of idividuals who have already broken our laws by entering our country illegally. We need to militarize our borders, and close them down. Fencing, high walls, and lots of military. I would rather see the money we pour into our welfare system go to protecting the borders, than to benefit people who are not even citizens of our country.
    My family was dirt poor, and came from Ireland; they suffered great persecution, and were looked down on. However, they paid their dues, and they immigrated here legally. They did not come into another country illegally, and expect that country to give them hand outs, and just feel sorry for them and make them a citizen. It doesn’t work like that, and no one should expect it to. It’s ridiculous, if we enforced our current laws and protected our borders we would not be experiencing this crisis now.

  • j stuart

    Calling the author racist is the usual response from those without arguments. This bunch will be forced to leave and live with the invaders and it is coming. Foolish multicultural adherents will be in the same fix we’re all headed into.

  • pamela

    Well, I don’t like illegal immigration by any means! But this articule is completely innacurate, thanks to illegals California still alive, illegals are the only ones that are willing to work for less money no benefits and the ones that get cancer due to the massive contamination due to hazardous materials used for the agriculture! Also remember California was once from the Ilegals, also to add more to the innacuracy of the articule. Illegas do pay taxes that they never claim because they are afraid, yes they should not come to have children etc. etc. but is a fact that this country was founded by illegals or wet backs just crossing instead of the rio grand the atlantic ocean, and thanks to those illegals that founded this Country we have a great nation of whealt. Or did your ancesters all have a GREEN CARD TO COME TO AMERICA FROM England, Poland,Ireland, etc, etc. be a lilttle more human and embrace all races! Instead of worrying about illegals worry about the economy and the country collapsing because we allowed all the Factories to move out of the country we don’t produce hardly anything.. except what the illegas produce working on the American Farms. Worry more about the economic collapnse and what the country is living no due to illegals but the fraudulent Loans you and me bought and that the banks benefit from it.

  • Lenny Pike

    There are probably at least 250 million Chinese and 250 million Indians who would like to come to the U.S., have kids here and receive the tax money and jobs of U.S. Citizens but it would be newly printed tax money by means of inflation because there wouldn’t be many Americans with an income. According to every one who is pro illegal or legal immigration there should be no problem with that. If this were to happen at least the manufacturing base would return to the U.S. because the cheap slave labor would be here. There would be no increase in profits though due to the elimination of shipping costs from China or India because the goods would be shipped to China and India from here for consumption there. The ruling elite who love fixed markets and slave labor and equate money to freedom would find they are incorrect about that and have to flee for their lives. Stay in Mexico and solve your own problems.

  • pamela

    to the idiot from Russia! Learn to speak and write english first, then voice your idiotic opinion MORON. YOU GO BACK TO RUSSIA!

  • pamela

    to the russian! Are you here illegal too? Stupid! go and get an english class for such morons as your self besides the illegal that service for adult basic education is free! you need to learn how to speak and write proper english Moron! Go back to Russia why are you here? Are you also getting food stamps free home and money from the americans! Yes we are a giving Nation and we support illegals and we support morons such as yourself. go back to Russia Stupid Moron. Ah! but before get some english classes Idiot.

  • Concerned Reader

    Here are some pictures of the boder war going on in Mexico between the narco gangs. I have to warn you that these pictures are very graphic.

    http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=8419

  • vesey

    For those of you that just answer by calling the writer a racist, stop the name calling and give us some facts why 30 million illegals are beneficial to the country. That would make it a legitimate debate instead of the typical liberal race baiting rant that you use for every opinion you don’t like. Another reason is that after decades of race baiting, we simply are not intimidated anymore by your childish accusations. We are not going to be shut up anymore so grow up and come up with some facts otherwise SHUT UP……

  • Robert

    I can’t for the love of God understand how someone could not be 100% against illegal immigration.
    Pull out our soldiers from the senseless forever war in Iraq and put them on the border with “Shoot to kill” orders on illegal crossings.
    Mexico’s illegal immigration law is really harsh and I don’t hear any Liberal clowns bitching about that.

  • Hank

    Illegal immigration will never stop until small businesses stop hiring them and Americans stop buying the drugs that are making Mexican bandits so rich. They are laughing at us, and they say most of the U.S. belongs to them anyway.
    In Chicago, we have suburbs where they stay like Blue Island among legal Mexican-American. They work hard for much less, I have hired them, as they wait outside Builders’ Square etc. I stopped doing so. When I found out that they hate us. They think we are weak (for using their drugs) and are lazy thieves.
    The legal Mexican-Americans live in fear of them: they are victimized, raped, stolen from etc. by illegals that simply skip back over the border after committing crimes like murder

  • stopspyingonme

    you forgot to include the millions, if not billions of dollars that both illegal and legal (recent) immigrants send to their countries of origin every month. to their extended family, to support them, thus draining the US of more money

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