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The Robots Are Coming, And They Are Replacing Warehouse Workers And Fast Food Employees

Robot 2014There are already more than 101 million working age Americans that are not employed and 20 percent of the families in the entire country do not have a single member that has a job.  So what in the world are we going to do when robots start taking millions upon millions more of our jobs? Thanks to technology, the balance of power between employers and workers in this country is shifting dramatically in favor of the employers.  These days, many employers are wondering why they are dealing with so many human worker “headaches” when they can just use technology to get the same tasks done instead.  When you replace a human worker with a robot, you solve a whole bunch of problems.  Robots never take a day off, they never get tired, they never get sick, they never complain, they never show up late, they never waste time on the Internet and they always do what you tell them to do.  In addition, robotic technology has advanced to the point where it is actually cheaper to buy robots than it is to hire humans for a vast variety of different tasks.  From the standpoint of societal efficiency, this is a good thing.  But what happens when robots are able to do just about everything less expensively and more efficiently than humans can?  Where will our jobs come from?

And this is not something that is coming at some point in “the future”.

This is already happening.

According to CNN, there will be 10,000 robots working to fulfill customer orders in Amazon.com warehouses by the end of 2014…

Amazon will be using 10,000 robots in its warehouses by the end of the year.

CEO Jeff Bezos told investors at a shareholder meeting Wednesday that he expects to significantly increase the number of robots used to fulfill customer orders.

Don’t get me wrong – I absolutely love Amazon.  And if robots can get me my stuff faster and less expensively that sounds great.

But what if everyone starts using these kinds of robots?

What will that do to warehouse jobs?

PC World has just done a report on a new warehouse robot known as “UBR-1″.  This robot is intended to perform tasks “normally done by human workers”…

The UBR-1 is a 4-foot tall, one-armed robot that could make warehouses and factories more efficient by performing tasks normally done by human workers.

Unlike the industrial robots widely used in manufacturing today—usually large machines isolated from people for safety reasons—this robot can work alongside humans or autonomously in a workspace filled with people.

This little robot costs $50,000, and it can work all day and all night.  It just needs a battery change every once in a while.  The creators of this robot envision it performing a vast array of different tasks…

“We see the robot as doing tasks, they could be dull, they could be dirty, they could be dangerous and doing them repetitively all day in a light manufacturing environment,” said Melonee Wise, Unbounded Robotics CEO and co-founder. Those tasks include stocking shelves, picking up objects and assembling parts.

The UBR-1 isn’t designed for small component assembly, but it can manipulate objects as small as dice or a Lego piece, Wise said. Unbounded Robotics is targeting companies that want some automation to speed up their manufacturing process, but can’t afford to fully automate their businesses.

To many people this may sound very exciting.

But what if a robot like that took your job?

Would it be exciting then?

Of course you can’t outlaw robots.  And you can’t force companies to hire human workers.

But we could potentially have major problems in our society as jobs at the low end of the wage scale quickly disappear.

According to CNN, restaurants all over the nation are going to automated service, and a recent University of Oxford study concluded that there is a 92 percent chance that most fast food jobs will be automated in the coming years…

Panera Bread is the latest chain to introduce automated service, announcing last month that it plans to bring self-service ordering kiosks as well as a mobile ordering option to all its locations within the next three years. The news follows moves from Chili’s and Applebee’s to place tablets on their tables, allowing diners to order and pay without interacting with human wait staff at all.

Panera, which spent $42 million developing its new system, claims it isn’t planning any job cuts as a result of the technology, but some analysts see this kind of shift as unavoidable for the industry.

In a widely cited paper released last year, University of Oxford researchers estimated that there is a 92% chance that fast-food preparation and serving will be automated in the coming decades.

It is being projected that other types of jobs will soon be automated as well

Delivery drivers could be replaced en masse by self-driving cars, which are likely to hit the market within a decade or two, or even drones. In food preparation, there are start-ups offering robots for bartending and gourmet hamburger preparation. A food processing company in Spain now uses robots to inspect heads of lettuce on a conveyor belt, throwing out those that don’t meet company standards, the Oxford researchers report.

Could you imagine such a world?

When self-driving vehicles take over, what will happen to the 3.1 million Americans that drive trucks for a living?

Our planet is changing at a pace that is almost inconceivable.

Over the past decade, the big threat to our jobs has been workers on the other side of the globe that live in countries where it is legal to pay slave labor wages.

But now even those workers are having their jobs taken away by robots.  For example, just check out what is happening in China

Foxconn has been planning to buy 1 million robots to replace human workers and it looks like that change, albeit gradual, is about to start.

The company is allegedly paying $25,000 per robot – about three times a worker’s average salary – and they will replace humans in assembly tasks. The plans have been in place for a while – I spoke to Foxconn reps about this a year ago – and it makes perfect sense. Humans are messy, they want more money, and having a half-a-million of them in one factory is a recipe for unrest. But what happens after the halls are clear of careful young men and women and instead full of whirring robots?

Perhaps you think that your job could never be affected because you do something that requires a “human touch” like caring for the elderly.

Well, according to Reuters, robots are moving into that arena as well…

Imagine you’re 85, and living alone. Your children are halfway across the country, and you’re widowed. You have a live-in aide – but it’s not human. Your personal robot reminds you to take your medicine, monitors your diet and exercise, plays games with you, and even helps you connect with family members on the Internet.

And robots are even threatening extremely skilled professions such as doctors.  For instance, just check out this excerpt from a Bloomberg article entitled “Doctor Robot Will See You Shortly“…

Johnson & Johnson proposes to replace anesthesiologists during simple procedures such as colonoscopies — not with nurse practitioners, but with machines. Sedasys, which dispenses propofol and monitors a patient automatically, was recently approved for use in healthy adult patients who have no particular risk of complications. Johnson & Johnson will lease the machines to doctor’s offices for $150 per procedure — cleverly set well below the $600 to $2,000 that anesthesiologists usually charge.

And this is just the beginning.  In a previous article, I discussed the groundbreaking study by Dr. Carl Frey and Dr. Michael Osborne of Oxford University which came to the conclusion that 47 percent of all U.S. jobs could be automated within the next 20 years.

47 percent?

That is crazy.

What will the middle class do as their jobs are taken away?

The world that we live in is becoming a radically different place than the one that we grew up in.

The robots are coming, and they are going to take millions of our jobs.

So what do you think of this robot invasion?  Please feel free to share your thoughts by posting a comment below…

  • MichaelisaphonyMF

    You really can’t think for yourself. You are the antichrist and I hop you rot!

  • Eric Quintero

    Lol the picture for this is hilarious. Tragically funny, really.

  • DJohn1

    I have all ready been through automation of the graphic arts industry or printing as we knew it in the 60s. My skill level with computerized programs like word, excel, data bases, Quark Express, Photo Shop, Illustrator, Indesign, and a few other antique programs mean nothing. My ability to run a linotype antique is also worthless. Or even my ability to run an ink press is obsolete. My professional training in keeping things proofread and right is still there. For now.
    Last year, the college educated graphic artists at the paper where I worked were laid off. They took our place when we retired. The work was farmed out to a subcontractor in India. It takes approximately 8 hours to get a correction done. No service means no customer advertising. That leads to the bankruptcy of the newspaper.
    It took 30 years for the computers to become sophisticated enough to take over the printing industry completely.
    What we will end up with is a socialist society where robots do everything for us. But that is more than likely 200 years down the road. The robots are not perfected yet.
    There is always a transition period that can last years before the robots can take over the jobs without malfunctions that will cost more money than they are worth.

    When they do, not if they do, then all the cheap labor in the world will be the first to go. The key is robots can be sent anywhere to do the job. The cheap labor is competitive for a while. But it means transportation costs are higher.

    Sophisticated 3-D Printing from computers will also have a significant effect on everything.
    Some people think the great Depression of the 30s was actually caused by the assembly line takeover of many trades that people had in the 20s.
    When the jobs all disappear who buys the products? This takeover by cheap labor all over the world is causing a depression right now. If those cheap labor jobs disappear as Robots take over, you are going to see the largest most horrible depression the world has ever seen.

    • apeiron

      High levels of automation is the only condition where the ideas of socialism might actually work.

    • Bruce

      3D printing is a real eye opener. That one technology alone once perfected and in the main stream will change our world as much as computers.

  • Eric Quintero

    For once in my life Im actually starting to think that ART is a legitimate career for the future.

    • PotHead69

      Yeah, you could paint those little Dias de las muertes day of the dead skulls, and sell them for $8 down on Venice beach.

      • Eric Quintero

        I still have 3 years left on my GI Bill. Coincidentally, the Florence Academy of Art offers a 3 year program in sculpture and I believe it is associated with American Universities thus enabling it for GI Bill funding.

        • Mike Smithy

          Hi Eric,
          Have you considered using your GI Bill to go to a Trade School? You can still make a decent living wage as an electrician or plumber.

          • Eric Quintero

            Hey Mike, Ive thought about welding and I have personal connections with a plumber as well. Im making decent money at what Im doing now (door to door marketing), but I dont really enjoy it.

            Contrary to what most people think, artists can make a decent living. I have a friend whose aunt is a professional painter. She produces about one piece / mo and sells her work at about 10k/ painting. She is not a well known artist either. But she makes anywhere from about 40k-100k a year working part time.

            I think the gap between rich and poor will only continue to widen. I think good artists will be able to stay afloat by living off of the expendable income of the upper class.

            The Art of the Old Masters is timeless and always in demand. Plus art loses its magic if produced by a computer.

          • Mike Smithy

            Following ones passion is a good thing. However, if you used your GI Bill to go to a welding school, perhaps you could create a niche as a guy who creates art from welded metal. Until you become established, you could always moonlight your welding skills to make money on the side.

          • Eric Quintero

            That is a good idea. I will consider it.

        • PotHead69

          Meh. Look me up I’ll get you some P.A. Work in La. Save your dough for drinking.

        • PotHead69

          You can’t buy creativity, either have it or not.

          • K2

            It can be ‘perfected’

  • DJohn1

    One positive note: Robots do not breathe. That means farming 6/7ths of the planet that is under water in our oceans with crops that might feed the entire planet in the future. It might mean robot colonies under domes producing food on the moon at some future point.
    Correctly engineered machines do not break down. So these same mechanical servants could possibly make life easier for every one.
    The real problem here is setting up a system of economics that is totally different from anything we have today.

  • Tom_F

    Just read the story about the McDonald’s HQ getting “stormed” by protestors complaining they can’t raise families on minimum wage. DON’T HAVE FAMILIES, IF YOU ONLY HAVE JOB SKILLS THAT PAY MINIMUM WAGE. Don’t have families if you have a job that can be done by a one-armed 4-foot tall robot.

    • http://economicmythsandlies.com/ economicmythsandlies

      Tom, you realize that you are telling people to take responsibility for their lives. How could be so cruel!

      • Bah!

        No, he is not … he is suggesting that only the elitists be allowed families and that is a large crock of horse manure. I doubt even you would qualify for membership in the billionaire elite club.

        • Tom_F

          @Bah, no. I am suggesting people take responsibility for their own lives, especially before bringing another life into the world. You and your ilk seem just fine bringing more burdensome poor into the world, those who can’t or won’t provide for themselves and then enjoy a sullen, resentful and parasitical existence.

          DON’T HAVE CHILDREN UNTIL YOU HAVE SKILLS TO GET AND KEEP A JOB TO PROVIDE FOR THEM.

          • Kim

            Hahah, we have a true humanitarian here. A real lover of his fellow man. What other privileges of this world would you deny the unskilled laborer? Basic medical care? Eating perhaps? How about breathing? DO NOT BREATHE IF YOU ONLY HAVE JOB SKILLS THAT PAY MINIMUM WAGE- is that how it is?

          • Eric Quintero

            Yeah, apparently the only life allowed to procreate should have refined labor skills. Interesting.

          • Kim

            As pointed out, refined labor skills is no guarantee of securing and keeping an above-minimum wage job. This economic system is rigged and corrupted and now we have jokers like this vilifying the unskilled laborer for doing what every human on earth was created to do and that is to lovingly nurture a family.

          • lolz

            in the robot world to come lol

          • none

            Yea Kim. I think your on to something!
            We are using more oxygen than is being produced!

          • gwanaambi

            And what happened to the concept of ‘nobody owes you anything’?

          • peace angel

            IT is being said that 50% of all the world’s jobs are going to permanently replaced by robots. We already have a billion people we cannot feed on planet earth.

            That IS NEVER going to change. THERE are never going to be secure JOBS again. THE US companies began retiring my generation really earlier than any other generation and it is impossible to get a job in the US any place UNLESS you are a specialized surgeon if you are over 50. Because one in three Americans will get cancer no company wants to pay for that.

          • FreeThinker

            What happened to taking responsibility for one’s actions? If a company gives Americans cancer by their practices or products, shouldn’t they take responsibility and be financially accountable for it?

          • peace angel

            THE companies and politicians who are poisoning
            AMERICANS DO NOT take responsibility for poisoning the entire world through multi-national corporations OWNED by the politicians. WHEN these cases go to court the Judges get paid off by the politicians.

            DID you not see the Erin Brockavich movie with Julia Roberts. HER story is one of hundreds just like it in the US.

            THOUSANDS of first responders have cancer CAUSED by the US gov. by telling them it was safe to be there.

            THE US and MONSANTO have murdered millions around the world with AGENT orange and will not take responsibility. THERE are today still lots of kids being born in VietNam where we sprayed millions of acres with Agent orange who are being born with extra legs.

            THE US is one of the most corrupt nations on earth and don’t take responsibility for anything. EVER and YOU cannot win against them in court.

          • FreeThinker

            Doggone that Mary huh!?! How dare she go and have the baby Jesus without having wealth. How dare that impoverished woman have a baby in a stable. Ever wonder why Jesus came as a Carpenter? Ever wonder why Jesus hung out with Fisherman and other trades people? Ever wonder why Jesus had mercy on the poor? It is because He can see into the poor’s hearts and souls.

          • ahhhman

            ever wonder why they made up jesus. cause otherwise you have to face reality

        • laura m.

          Those that cannot afford kids,don’t breed, as they are a luxury best suited for wealthier couples. Since this country is trashed anyway, why breed at all? This way if you choose to divorce it will be a no fault- no hassle. Child free is the best lifestyle today; America has a zero future.

          • peace angel

            THE world has a zero future. WE are and have been doing far better than most starving nations but that is OVER. I decided at 15 this world NOT a place to birth a child and at 62 it is still the best decision I ever made. MY peers are worried sick about their kids as they watch them making grandkids BUT they don’t warn them NOT to.

          • GSOB

            All we really have is the moment.

        • peace angel

          NO that is not what he is saying. READ my comments. I am saying NO ONE should bring kids into the world for any reason including the elitists. THE world is NEVER going to be a place to bring kids into again and people are trying here to tell you WHY that is.

          • GSOB

            Marriage is for this life only.

            In God’s purpose, mankind was created to the role of multiplying, exercising dominion over the earth.

            Marriage and bearing fruit
            (children) is God’s way.

            Every conception in the womb has a story to tell and is potentially,
            a ‘living stone’
            in the Church,…..
            which is the dwelling place of God.

            The purpose of His creation is altogether for His own pleasure
            and
            human marriage is a picture of this mystery…
            Christ and the Church.

            Repent, believe in the Lord Jesus and be saved from this evil and perverse generation.

            Give your life to Christ and pursue truth.

          • peace angel

            SO
            What you are saying is that GOD is an idiot. You are saying the GOD cannot see the earth is grossly overpopulated and that the children all over earth are starving because HE wants them to make kids they cannot afford??

            Three decades ago I died and went to Heaven and DID not get the impression that GOD is an idiot. THE GOD I worship is filled with Common sense and forethought.

            Maybe you are talking about a different GOD. I don’t do anything I need to repent for BUT if I decide to I would certainly repent.

            Marriage was created for the CENSUS and NEVER mentioned in the BIBLE because it did not exist.

          • GSOB

            Come on. Be nice now.
            I’m trying to let you in on the reason you are alive.

            I hope you get to ‘know’ personally, what His will is for your life.

            I know what His is for me.

          • peace angel

            IT has always been his will for me to mentor and take in other people’s children. I have done so for fifty years.

            In addition to taking in almost a hundred kids, I also kidnapped an 87 year old woman who had survived Auschwitz and breast cancer who was suffering from Alheimers disease from her evil caretakers.

            I kept her at my home for a year and hired a nurse, while I fought the man who had promised her husband HE would take care of her in court.

            I also opened the first rape crisis center in Lake Tahoe calif. and have been counseling rape victims for free for decades. I do it today online.

            I also counsel our war vets going back to Vietnam for free and today I do that online as well.

            I am pretty sure that I have found MY purpose. America has raised a whole generation of godless kids and maybe you should go preach to them. I am good and don’t need your preaching.

          • GSOB

            Pretty sure ain’t sure enough.

            You are older than I but not the wiser.

          • Kim

            You did not die. And you did not go to heaven.

          • peace angel

            YEAH I DID. ARE you nuts???

          • GSOB

            Elaborate please, then…

          • Westerner

            The institution of marriage was practiced and referred to as, “hand-binding”; long before Christian invaders ever invaded and occupied the Western world. Marriage is a heathen concept that pre-dates formalized accounting and centralized government. Please check your history.

          • GSOB

            Dust off the outside and then check inside your bible.

        • Priszilla

          Well, if only the elite can have children, who is going to clean the place of their manure?

          • FreeThinker

            Have the wealthy ever done any work in history? Or do they live off of the backs of the working class?

          • k-b

            Robots

        • http://economicmythsandlies.com/ economicmythsandlies

          You realize that the adultsmaking minimum wage represent about a couple percent of those in the workforce right? Only 0.9% of people over 29 are making minimum wage. If you are making less than 99% of the country then you should probably not have children.

    • Bah!

      So only the people who own everything…the few thousand or so who already have most of the wealth…the ones installing these robots…are the only ones who should be allowed to have children? Your suggestion is reprehensible beyond belief.

      • Tom_F

        DON’T HAVE CHILDREN UNTIL YOU HAVE SKILLS TO GET AND KEEP A JOB TO PROVIDE FOR THEM.
        People should at least own something, and have the ability to provide for their own necessities and have something left over before they start squirting out kids. It is reprehensible that you suggest anybody should be able to have a kid as an entitlement, and don’t worry about paying for it because the government will always tax somebody else to cover the tab.

        • peace angel

          THE FEDS just cut food entitlement programs by 5 BILLION dollars. THE freebies will stop the MOMENT Obama stops printing money.

        • FreeThinker

          I guess Mary should have thought about what you said above before she had the baby Jesus in a stable?

      • peace angel

        Your lack of ability to see what is right in your face is unbelievable. I suggest that anyone who brings children into the world is selfish and out of touch with reality.

        • GSOB

          God is

          • peace angel

            God is what? Also out of touch like you are??? I don’t think that is the case on any level?

          • GSOB

            Everything that has come into existence is because God is….

            Hebrews 11:6, 7

            Good News Translation (GNT)

            6
            No one can please God without faith, for whoever comes to God must have faith that God exists and rewards those who seek him.

            7
            It was faith that made Noah hear God’s warnings about things in the future that he could not see. He obeyed God and built a boat in which he and his family were saved. As a result, the world was condemned, and Noah received from God the righteousness that comes by faith.

          • peace angel

            SERIOUSLY don’t get me started on the BIBLE. THE version you read has been edited and re-edited and opinionated and translated through many, many languages and language translation can totally CHANGE everything you are reading.

            IN addition, there are 7 lost books of the Bible that have been discarded over the centuries and those talk about being KIND to all you meet and they reiterate that we all reincarnate many times and that blows your theory of only one life to be married.

            WHEN I died and went to heaven I came back with the same knowledge that ALL those who experience a NDE and that is that WE all must love every single person we meet and NOT judge. I have lived that life.

          • GSOB

            1 Peter 2:5

            Good News Translation (GNT)

            5
            Come as living stones, and let yourselves be used in building the spiritual temple, where you will serve as holy priests to offer spiritual and acceptable sacrifices to God through Jesus Christ.

          • GSOB

            “SERIOUSLY don’t get me started on the BIBLE.”

            That says it all.

            Good day.

    • anonymous1

      So, children are only for the wealthy? Is that idea elitist, eugenisist, pro Caste system, or all three?

      Thank God the poor have children. Otherwise, we wouldn’t have many literary works, the work of several Classical music composers, the work of several artists, etc. Many brilliant, gifted, talented, wonderful people come from humble beginnings, live in humble circumstances, and expire in humble conditions.

      • krinks

        Rush Limbaugh listeners have lost their ability to think critically.

        • peace angel

          SO have you and without a touch of reality.

          • K2

            How so, please elaborate?

          • peace angel

            K2 my response is above your comment.

          • peace angel

            OKAY

            I worked for the EIB group and they ONLY accept TRUTH in broadcasting and NO other news source in the US does the job of finding the truth like his team. IT is NOT about him. HE has a huge team of investigators who DO NOT RELY on government propaganda from EITHER party to sway their broadcasting. EVER

            THEY will go after everyone who lies and set the record straight. The TRUTH is all I care about and finding it takes a LOT of insider and whistle blower information.

            I have decades of those
            contacts as do the investigators for the EIB which stands for Excellence in Broadcasting.

            THE people who slam Rush are those who have NEVER listened to him for 6 weeks. HE tells everyone to GET IT you must listen for 6 weeks and you have never done so OR you would get what they do and realize daily the lies coming out of the White House regardless of who the POTUS is. THEY all LIE to the ostrich nation.

          • K2

            Glad they have gone after obama. But….so did they go after bush too to set the record straight?

          • Gay Veteran

            Rush the drug addict is just another media shill

          • peace angel

            IF you check it or do any research you would KNOW that he WAS addicted to Oxycontin as are hundreds of thousands of Americans.

            HE stopped taking them when he was outed and today JUST lives in pain, like I do and like other strong willed people do who
            refuse the poisons made by RX companies.

            Your generation are the drug addicts. HE is a media shill for who??? Please tell me as I worked for him and we had NO media influence put into our research from Rush or anyone else.

            WE got a story line to research and then several other people checked our stories for the truth and IF we told the truth our stories were used. NO outside influence exists with the EIB staff.

          • Gay Veteran

            Rush is a HYPOCRITE. He was doing illegal drugs while advocating that others be sent to prison.
            He is just another cog in the corporate media machine.

      • Tom_F

        Nice straw man, but no dice. With almost 8 billion in the world, there are more than enough ‘poor children’. Your example of literary, music and art are all fine but none of those are necessary to humankind; they are entertainment, and exist at the patronage of those with money left over after their necessities are provided for.

        DON’T HAVE CHILDREN UNTIL YOU HAVE SKILLS TO GET AND KEEP A JOB TO PROVIDE FOR THEM.

        • Kevin Holt

          Perhaps, they should do as Mr. Dickens suggested, and decrease the surplus population.

          • Tom_F

            Perhaps. But just not adding to that surplus population, going forward, would solve the problem.

          • Kevin Holt

            Sarcasm here. I was using sarcasm.

          • Tom_F

            Really? I thought you were being serious, especially quoting Dickens and using the ubiquitous and enigmatic “they.”

          • Kevin Holt

            “They” was part of the quote. You should read it. It is from Scrooge.

          • Tom_F

            Is it possible Dickens was being sarcastic? Perhaps?

          • Kevin Holt

            No, I think Scrooge really was represented as thinking that way.

          • Tom_F

            Dickens was being sarcastic by portraying Scrooge as earnest. So, two questions, then: 1) Did Scrooge have children he didn’t have the means or interest to raise; 2) when Scrooge gave his money away on Christmas was it given freely, or was it forced by legal means?

          • Mondobeyondo

            It’s possible. It’s also possible that he was telling the truth. Often, the truth is hidden in sarcasm.

          • FreeThinker

            Wasn’t Dickens’ father once in debtor’s prison?

          • Leigh Andrews

            You might be confusing Dickens with “A Modest Proposal” by Jonathan Swift, which was a satire that advocated having the Irish poor sell their babies to the rich to be eaten.

            Then again, there is that line in “A Chiristmas Carol” where Scrooge asks whether or not there were still workhouses. My favorite is Mrs. Jellyby in “Bleak House”. She let her own children go hungry so that she could donate to the fund to buy milk for African babies. Reminds me of the “mission baby” con of my youth. ($5 to have a pagan baptized)

        • Drud

          Your post begs the question: Who, in your opinion, IS necessary to humankind?

          • Tom_F

            None of us. Who, in your opinion, is necessary to humankind?

          • peace angel

            NO it doesn’t. NOT at all. HE is just stating facts.

          • gwanaambi

            ROBOTS, MAN!

        • Kim

          A silly comment deserves a straw man, sarcastic, hyperbolic response.

        • Mondobeyondo

          The Chinese government would love you. One family, one child…

          • Michael Griffith

            Tom didn’t say there should be a law restricting family size. All he said was take responsibility for providing for the children you bring into the world.

            There are many neighborhoods in America where 70%+ of men don’t take responsibility and their children are supported by teh state. They’re the areas you and I avoid b/c they are dangerous.

        • FreeThinker

          Poor children have also become engineers, scientists, doctors, nurses, etc.

      • Mondobeyondo

        Chidren for the wealthy, would be the ultimate victory for the plutocracy. They would want nothing less. But it would be a sad state of affairs for the rest of us. Where would we get such great works like “Les Miserables” from?

        • FreeThinker

          I would not want to imagine a world without Art. A big “Thank You” to the children born to the poor that have shared their talents and Art with the world.
          Can you imagine the world if it were only full of Accountants and Scientists?

    • krinks

      So if your factory closes and your job ships to China are you supposed to murder your family because you can’t support them any longer? Why do you think the minimum wage jobs these days are staffed by middle aged folks? You people that attack the workers for wanting a fair wage and say not a word against the oligarchs makes me sick.
      Why do you think it is that construction workers of the west can’t get jobs because all the work is given to criminal border jumpers that no one will do anything about? They have people like you to apologize for them.

      • Tom_F

        Yes. Murder your family. That is what I am saying. You really get it.

        • Kevin Holt

          I think you should be in charge. You really have all the answers.

          • Tom_F

            Thanks Kevin, I appreciate the support!

          • david james

            Kevin was being sarcastic mr troll

          • Tom_F

            Here’s a hint, david james…you are the only one in this thread who is NOT being sarcastic. Maybe you’ll get it…or not.

        • Eric Quintero

          Wow Tom, you really take pride in being an asshole.

          • Tom_F

            Come on Eric, even those Chicago bangers who watch your car for you can understand this. Really? The poster Krinks thinks I am saying “murder your family?” That’s what he (and you) get out of my original post, asking for some personal responsibility before squirting out children? Whatever, Marine.

          • Eric Quintero

            I understand your message.

            I personally believe it is necessary to have a steady lifestyle before bringing someone else into this world. However, you went a bit far and your message seemingly transformed from one of personal responsibility to one of restricting childbearing only to the upper crust.

            Its now unclear where you actually stand. Im really beginning to think you just hate poor people.

            (And my neighborhood has looked out for me better than the police have. Real talk. Theres still something called loyalty out there. Thanks for resurrecting a very old post. I guess my message has stuck with you all this time :P)

          • neal

            Eric,you don’t get it; NOBODY has a steady lifestyle to enable them to be certain that they can provide 25 years of steadiness to raise a child from egg to graduate. In 25 years perhaps 95-99% of jobs will be done by a combination of robots and computers. By 2040 the estimate is that computers will be smarter than people and before 2050 nearly all patentable discoveries will be done by computers.
            Unless the concept of work, employment and being a breadwinner changes dramatically then even those who can guarantee a stable upbringing for their child will still have to face their child graduating into a job market with 99% unemployment.

          • Albert8184

            I hate poor people. That’s what made me decide to stop being one of them. So, you say money isn’t the “all in all” of life…. and I say you’ve never been poor. Most poor people agree. That’s why you hear them complaining about money more than anyone.

          • rentslave

            I’d like to be rich,but I will not move to Nevada,the only state in which I can make money because the Senate will not let NJ put its laws into place.

          • Mondobeyondo

            Worst thing you could ever do is insult a U,S. Marine.

            I have never served in the military (my dad served in the Air Force though.) If it wasn’t for these brave warriors, I wouldn’t be sitting in a living room watching “Frozen” on a DVD right now.

            Respect.

          • Ray

            Amen. I have the utmost respect for those brave citizens who defend and protect our country. Unless you’ve walked in their shoes none of us have any idea what they have/could have experienced. Always honor those in uniform in all forums/places in the world. Period.

          • Gay Veteran

            BS. We need to stop our imperial wars all across the world.
            As George Washington said: NO foreign entanglements

          • beentheredonethat

            The soldiers do not defend us at all. They simply assist multi-national corporations in raping the world. If soldiers truly defended our rights & liberties, they would have stormed the Capitol building and White House long ago. They are mindless drones utilized by the elite.

          • Gay Veteran

            amen!

          • peace angel

            You don’t get it.

        • david james

          bye troll

          • Tom_F

            bye Captain Oblivious

      • A vet

        Back in my day, I made about 1/3 of the federal minimum wage as an infantry soldier. Why should anyone flipping a burger make more than a guy dodging bullets in Afghanistan?

        • peace angel

          I worked in my grandfathers shoe store for three years in high school for $2.50 per hour. I went to work in a soils testing lab in college for $3.00 per hour.

          THANK you for your service.

          • Mondobeyondo

            Thank you for your service, I echo that. Ditto (some people will understand that word. Others will not. Generational thing I guess.)

          • peace angel

            I have been counseling war vets for free since VietNam. THESE guys are really being screwed by our corrupt gov. Last nite a man who administers federal aid to war vets that are in nursing homes stated that all over the nation vets will NOW be kicked out of nursing homes because the feds will NOT be subsidizing the wage increases and the nursing homes CANNOT afford to pay their workers more money and so he stated that they will have to kick them out to fill the beds with insurance patients.

          • Gay Veteran

            don’t thank people for being cogs in the imperial war machine

        • Priszilla

          And from your salary you had to buy food and your trip to work, and accommodation, and work clothes?

        • Albert8184

          True. But you are only talking about your base pay too. Maybe. I don’t know what year you are talking about.

          As an E-3 in 1981, living on base and eating in the chow hall, I thought I was rich.

          • none

            Back in 1975-78. When the new volunteer army came out?
            They always talked about the pay.
            We had a couple of enlisted go down to welfare. They where told that they earn about $2.00 to much a month to get welfare.
            Look at the marines in California, that have their families go to food banks to make ends meet.

        • david james

          “Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.”

          Henry Kissinger.

          that’s why.

          • Anonymous

            Unfortunately, people that love their country have been exploited since the beginning of time by the wealthy. Just read the book “War is a Racket” by Smedley Butler, whom was a Marine.

        • Mondobeyondo

          You fought for our country,
          The burger flipper made a Big Mac (with pickles and tomatoes no less).

          You win. Not even a contest :)

        • Mondobeyondo

          I can’t say it enough – thank you (and ALL vets!!) for your service. Without you… I could be imprisoned for speaking my mind. Or worse.

          Thank you. <3

          • Tom

            Well are you suure that you can’t be imprisoned for speaking your mind? I guess it depends on what you’re talking about eh..? Freedom is cool

          • Gay Veteran

            sorry but if you effectively protect against TPTB then you will be beaten down.
            the only vets I want to see are the ones IN America protecting this country

      • peace angel

        THE piece of the puzzle in your scenario is that IF you increase the minimum wage to 10.10 as Obama is demanding of the Federal businesses then MORE businesses close and more people suffer.

        IN ALL states the Feds subsidize nursing home vet care for instance and last night the man who overseas the gov. contracts to nursing homes in TEXAS alone reported that that they FEDS aren’t going to reimburse these wage increases. Obama never thinks about the end game and NOW because of the increase that nursing homes CANNOT afford to pay the workers they will be forced to KICK our war vets out of every nursing home in the nation and to fill those beds with a person with real insurance OR close their doors.

        THESE types of crises will be widespread and never ending.
        HOW can anyone believe that businesses DON’T WANT to pay their employees more money IF they were able to. TENS of thousands of restaurants and other businesses are closing DAILY in the US and around the world. GET all the pieces of a puzzle before you start calling out “you people.”

        AND FYI people are murdering their families because they cannot feed them. AND people who used all their money to consume Chinese goods from previous great jobs wake up around the world every day also and realize they cannot afford to pay the debt on those trinkets and kill their families.

        I know lots of people here in my tourist beach town who rent out vacation condos and everyone is living on credit and the crash is coming soon. McDonalds stated they are replacing all these humans with robots anyway and very soon.

        • Micky Dees

          A $10 Big Mac coming your way soon.

          • ua2

            good – should reduce demand for big mac’s. the aggregate health-savings would more than make up for lost sales in overall economic health.

          • k-b

            I don’t eat at McDonald’s now because I can’t afford it. So if the future brings $10 hamburgers it doesn’t matter-I still won’t be eating there.

      • Priszilla

        In Hong Kong, anyone who employs illegal immigrants faces 2 years in jail.

        So, when are you going after the employers?

        • Albert8184

          I guess we’ll go after the employers once the politicians decide they have enough new voters to keep themselves in power.

        • david james

          robots should be declared illegal immigrants. Maybe that’s why corporations have been given equal status with persons – so the corporate property (robots) they create can legally get employment

        • Mondobeyondo

          Wonder how well such a law would go over here in the fine state of Arizona.

          If there were no employers
          hiring illegals, there would be no illegal workers. However,for the employers who hire illegals, the benefits outweigh the disadvantages.

          • Priszilla

            Usually, when you pay a fine or even bail, but not if you go to prison for two years without parole.

      • Michael Griffith

        How about

        1) Electing people that will end Free Trade with countries whose Labor and Environmental protections are much lower than ours (like they are in China)

        2) Stop the flow of illegal immigrants who compete with Americans for fewer and fewer jobs and stop bringing in H1b1 visa workers while we have so many unemployed Americans in the IT field.

        In case you haven’t noticed sending everyone to college and relying on entry-level service sectro jobs is not a viable long term plan.

      • FirstGarden

        ” criminal border jumpers that no one will do anything about?”

        That’s because one party immigrates in their voter base. And it’s a third rail for the other party.

      • mikeymike61

        yes, murder them so the rest of us don’t have to pay for them

    • alan

      True, but there are some people who have lost better jobs that take whatever they can find to work. People are at the point of getting desperate.

      • Bruce

        Your right and that desperation is about to boil over. It is VERY tough out there for many. The audasity of the politicians stalling on the minimum wage issue is sickening. WHO in hell can survive on 7.25?

        • Tom_F

          @Bruce, who is supposed to survive on $7.25/hr? Nobody! Those jobs are entry-level unskilled jobs for teens and part-timers. You shouldn’t be a grown person with obligations, and think it is somehow OK to have lived your life and work at McDonald’s. You need a spouse/partner, double it up and will make $30,000.
          DON’T HAVE CHILDREN UNTIL YOU HAVE SKILLS TO GET AND KEEP A JOB TO PROVIDE FOR THEM.

          • quercus454

            Sadly you just don’t get it. But what goes around comes around. Karma will catch up with you some day.

          • Tom_F

            Oooh, you mean “karma” is a persuasive argument, and now $10/hr for the skills of a McDonald’s worker should now look good to me? Because of karma? Why is the answer to someone’s financial problems always to have somebody ELSE give them money?

          • Kevin Holt

            The worker is worthy of his wages. Obviously, you do not value people very highly.

          • Tom_F

            Is the “work” worthy of wages higher than the market will bear? And who, WHO, will pay those higher wages? Obviously, you do not value those people who will wind up paying those higher wages very highly.

          • Kevin Holt

            You show me in the budget of any business where a raise in pay for any position in the company will not be borne out by the market and I will show you a failing business. If we did not allow so many people to pour across our borders, wages would necessarily go up, due to the reduction in available labor. How do you respond to that?

          • Tom_F

            First, you didn’t answer my questions, so I ask you again for your answers. Second, I respond by telling you, because you obviously are unaware, that a net 200,000 small businesses have failed and closed in the U.S. since 2008. Almost 500 banks have failed since 2008. The borders are NOT closed. Less than half of all working-age Americans have a f/t job. These are all facts, and those facts will actually get WORSE if an increase to minimum wage is mandated. How do you respond to that?

          • peace angel

            BECAUSE Obama has been promising amnesty here far more illegals from all over the world are flocking into the US for the past five years in huge numbers.

            I am not sure where you got these stats BUT they are much higher than this. WAY more businesses and banks have closed since 2008.

            THESE sound like gov. stats

          • PotHead69

            Not true, imigration especially illegally has been down since the crash of 2008

          • peace angel

            NOT true, Obama is legally and every single month bringing in scientists,
            engineers, doctors and more graduates who majored in very specified careers that our kids don’t major in.

            The baby boomers kids got business degrees believing they could come out of college and run a business.

            THEY are the ones in their moms basements or at the fast food places.

            IN addition, I have a cousin who works Texas border patrol and she and I talk all the time and the illegal immigration through the Mexican border has tripled since Obama took office.

            THEY have found 120 HIGH tech tunnels on the border built underground in Tx. alone since Obama took office. THEY are used for smuggling people and drugs. She tells me that people are today crossing that border who are from all over the world and when they pick them up they KNOW how to say Amnesty.

            Again, most of you get your news from gov. sources and everything coming out of this White House is a huge lie. Biggest liars EVER and I thought after the Clintons were always going to be the biggest liars to ever occupy that once sacred ground. I NEVER get my news from our gov. and have not for forty years. THEY all LIE>

          • PotHead69

            Who gives a crap what your cuz says ya dumb brick, the numbers tell the real story. Look em up yourself, I’m not gonna do it for you. Immigration is down legal and illegal.

          • peace angel

            SO—-YOU DO get your news from one of the MOST CORRUPT government administrations on planet earth and instead of JUST ADMITTING it—- you resort to name calling like in grade school. STICKS and STONES little boy pot head confederate fool. SEE, anyone can call names.

            Immigration is the HIGHEST it has been in US history because of the underground tunnels AND OBAMA is NEVER going to tell you this. ONE tunnel pops up as soon as another one is closed.

            THERE was also an IN- DEPTH one hour investigative news program on either the History or Nat.Geo channels, like about two weeks ago showing the beginnings and the ends of many of the tunnels our border guards have RECENTLY found—–JUST in and around El Paso. THEY too reported the number of 120 tunnels found and closed by Border patrol. THEY are also gov. employees BUT they don’t check with Obama

            Dozens of them were shown in the documentary and they came up into closets and garages in churches, private homes, SCHOOLS, businesses and the middle of the desert. THIS was a real investigative report.

            TEXAS news channels have reported all this news as well. THEY aren’t scared of Obama down there and they are heavily armed on the border. THE documentary reported that immigration is up more than 30% over any other time in US history.

            mainstream news sources online have reported it. GO to ONE of the many Border Patrol online blogs and get the FACTS yourself. I have not wasted my time using DC facts since I wrote speeches/lies for them.
            YOUR GOV. boys are the biggest LIARS or all time.

            Obama speaks all the time on his Perpetual PR Tour— PPRT— to liberal colleges about the FACT that he is importing lots of recent college graduates and tells them NOT to major in business and TO major in engineering, math, science,etc so he does not have to STILL import his Muslim buddies from middle eastern nations. OF course he doesn’t disclose the last part. HE has been reading these same speeches for 5 years.

          • Gay Veteran

            “…Obama is legally and every single month bringing in scientists,
            engineers, doctors and more graduates who majored in very specified careers that our kids don’t major in….”

            pure BS, they’re importing cheaper labor, period

          • peace angel

            WHAT is wrong with you??? Do you just state false things and call people liars without disproving what they have to say. I can go up against the best of them with facts, but you have nothing to say. YOU just call people liars.

            Again, I ask what is wrong with you?? I don’t get my facts wrong and have not in the forty years I have done political research. It appears as though you are a White House shill. Paid CyberWarrior for Obama??

            INTERN sleeping with Obama?? WHAT?? He already has a boyfriend. REGGIE who he vacas with all over the world. WHO are you??

          • Gay Veteran

            hey junior, I support Obama about as much as I supported Bush.

          • peace angel

            OBAMA is saying in his never ending PR tour that he is bringing these professionals in. FIND it in his speeches.

          • Gay Veteran

            can you read? they aren’t bringing them in because “our kids don’t major” in those fields. No, they bring them in because they are cheap labor.

          • Mike Smithy

            Apparently you have never owned a business and had to deal with making a payroll, paying overhead and expanding the business while doing battle with ever changing economic headwinds. I have built 2 successful businesses in my life time and it is anything but easy. However, I think we can agree that the influx of unbridled illegal immigration has eroded the middle class.

          • peace angel

            MOST businesses in the US are BARELY keeping their doors open and tens of thousands of businesses are daily going out of business. TO raise the minimum wage kills off lots more businesses. IS this your first time to this website. THE doom and gloom economic news worsens daily in the US. ARE you listening to the economic lies of Obama? You are delusional.

            LOTS of businesses are failing in the US and all over the world and you don’t raise minimum wage under those conditions.

            ALREADY the fall out is clear from Obama forcing the feds to raise min. wage.

            Last night a man who administers federal funds to nursing homes says this means they have to KICK out all our war vets nationwide. THE feds are not going to subsidize the increases and the nursing homes CANNOT afford to pay their workers $10 per hour and so they have to kick them out. GOOD IDEA

          • anonymous1

            If you are a Christian, please read James 5.

          • peace angel

            NO you don’t get it. YOU are delusional.

          • Kevin Holt

            You are an arrogant person. Why is it a crime to be a clerk in a shop? It is honest work. Why is it unreasonable to expect to be compensated a fair portion for one’s labor? These companies make billions in profit every year consistently, and benefit directly from the Central Banking systems which destroy the value of the currencies which the workers slave away to earn.

            You really do not understand the underlying problem. It is with the currencies, and the policies set by the wealthy and ruling which determine what happens to the rest of us.

            I do not support the idea of raising the minimum wage, but in the face of the constant devaluation of currencies caused by constant monetary expansion and zero interest rate policies, it is the poor man’s only defense.

          • Tom_F

            Come on, Kevin, I thought you ‘got it’ for a minute.
            It isn’t a “crime” to work a low-skill job that requires a warm body with no education, and is only worth $7.25/hr. (not sure where you inferred that, but it does make a nice straw man!). But it should be a crime to be an uneducated, low-skill person who brings a child into the world without the means or interest to provide for that child. And then use “the child” as an excuse for the poverty their own decision created, and justification for confiscating money from someone else. btw, it is not the banks or the corporations that will pay the higher wage, it is the consumer. At some point. A Big Mac is $4.25 now. Would you pay $5? $6? $7? $8? Nah, didn’t think so. You probably are too good to even eat at Mickey D’s!

          • peace angel

            WITH a third of all Americans terminally unemployed who will be there to pay these higher prices??

          • peace angel

            YOU don’t get it. IF it means tens of thousands more businesses go out of business then raising the min. wage is ludicrous and MOST business owners CAN no longer afford the massive taxes, regulations and expenses and tens of thousands of businesses are closing daily in the US already.

          • Bruce

            Tom, what about disabled persons who are being financially raped by greedy business owners. In addition, sometimes part time jobs are all that is out there..The ONLY thing we agree on is 7.25 for teenagers doing summer work.

          • peace angel

            WHAT??? THE disabled are being raped by who???

            THE FEDS rape the disabled. THEY could all live extremely well IF the democrats had not started handing out welfare to able bodied people and baby mamas.

            DISABILITY was ONLY for people who are really physically or mentally ill.

            THE DEMS began giving it to anyone who has a baby or PTSD or just is too lazy to work.

          • danbax

            I agree with you completely.

            I guess its time for us Americans to start living like other countries where one family lives in a house… the parents, the kids, grandparents, etc

          • peace angel

            that is already the case

          • FreeThinker

            Some in America already do. There is now “The Sandwich Generation” in the USA which has their parents and children needing to live with them due to the economy and the cost of living.

          • davidmpark

            The population rate is collapsing right now. We have a larger aging population with a dangerously low replacement rate. We need children, and we needed them 15 years ago. Lift the restrictions, stop the bull#$%& abortions, knock it off with bastardizing traditional marriage and allow the use of robots. The methods to fix this economy in 8 months are available right now, but they are being purposefully ignored or misconstrued.

            Hopefully we will have the population necessary to keep the droids operational, or this nation is truly hosed.

          • Tom_F

            @davidm, the pop. in the U.S. is steady, and increasing 2% annually due to immigration (legal and otherwise). We do not need “more children”. We need the “right kind of children.” We don’t need illegal immigrants who are illiterate in two languages, drop out of high school, and have 3 babies by age 24 that they can’t support and wind up a burden on govt. We do not need the segment of the pop. that produces 72% of births out of wedlock to keep reproducing and increasing the violent criminal element 3% of the population that commits 50% of violent crime. We do not need a bunch of touch-feely entitled children of yuppies with their sociology, philosophy, history, gay studies majors coming into the workforce and wondering why they are unemployable and yet they think they are too good to rent cars, work at Carl’s Jr., or Holiday Inn in an increasingly service-oriented economy.

          • davidmpark

            The immigration statistics are very unreliable: somewhere between 3-20 million. Yes, many cannot communicate in 21st century American English; but then again, many citizens cannot either. And from what I’ve seen of the illegal community, only some have anchor babies – most are single.

            Your arguments seem borne from your personal biases; not the actual situation. We are collapsing in every way possible. There are solutions that do not require genocide and mass subjugation.

          • Tom_F

            @davidm, I’m assuming you are speaking about the ILLEGAL statistics, and the fact that they are “very unreliable” should concern you, and everybody. But my point was about ALL immigration. The U.S. population is growing every year, just google it, but it continues to grow as I described previously. Your solutions seem to involve Christians reproducing, and I am saying that won’t matter as long as you continue to be outgrown by the wrongs parts of civilization that consume and destroy far more than they contribute.

          • davidmpark

            Interesting that you went for “Christians reproducing”. I was speaking generally of man/woman biological reproduction; the normal method of tab A into slot B. And you went for labeling it Christian reproduction.

            I have googled it; and found that our birthrate per 1000 people is 12.7 children per year. That is dangerously low. For perspective: China’s is 11.93, Russia’s 12.6, Japan’s 8.3; Germany’s 8.1, Iraq’s 34.92, Mexico’s 19.13, and so on. Many countries are far below their replacement rates and have a larger aging population. We need those robots now just to keep our head’s above water.

            What’s killing our civilization is iniquity, and those compounding miseries that come from it.

          • Tom_F

            Your poor attempts to disguise the issues of abortion and gay marriage as somehow threatening the existence of the species was the “Christian” giveaway. Own it. You don’t know what you are talking about, as proven by your ignorance of the annual growth in U.S. population. The U.S. continues to grow in population, as does the entire earth.

          • Gay Veteran

            yeah, let’s have even more kids and MORE unemployment

          • davidmpark

            Can’t help yourself, can you? Prove me wrong, if you’re so smart.

          • Gay Veteran

            hey Einstein, we don’t have enough jobs for people currently living here

          • davidmpark

            So, you can’t prove me wrong. We already have the wealth; $120 trillion in raw materials locked up by people on your side of things. Along with the genocide of 1/3 my generation. The idea that this works out is foolishness at it’s best; civilization doesn’t thrive through attrition and central management – that’s how it’s killed. Is it any wonder I question you and your side’s mental health?

            You failed to prove me wrong, again. And you and yours own this destruction and failure. Deal with it.

          • Gay Veteran

            “…We already have the wealth; $120 trillion in raw materials locked up by people on your side of things….”

            PROOF please. And what will extraction cost us environmentally? or is that a cost the mining companies will just push off onto the rest of us?

            “…Along with the genocide of 1/3 my generation….”

            adopted any unwanted babies yet? No? then you no moral authority to open your pie-hole on this subject

            “…Is it any wonder I question you and your side’s mental health?….”

            of course not, easier for you to demonize people

            “…You failed to prove me wrong, again….”

            proved you wrong by simple logic, too bad you didn’t get it

          • aghast

            Gay Vet Troll-Hole Snagglepuss is all about disruption, not discourse. Notice he has conflicts with everyone? He was hired by the the VA as a troll, because he’s thick-skinned and has no conscience.

          • davidmpark

            Yeah, I know. It’s getting fun debating it to tears and fury, though. Very sure it’s a troll, who’s troll… don’t know. But whoever this troll is, it’s seriously not worth the funds if lowly uncool nerd like me can smack it down so much.

          • aghast

            You’re wasting your time with a troll.

    • quercus454

      Not everyone who works at min wage today is unskilled or an entry level worker. A lot of min wage workers were displaced from higher paying jobs.

      Take for instance a construction worker. A skilled tradeesman once had a middle class income. He spent 4 or more years learning his trade. But because of foreign illegal labor and the economy he can’t find a job in his trade anymore. He has a family that he used to be able to support..
      So he takes what ever job he can find, because he still wants to support his family. But most all of the jobs that are created today are now low paying min wage.
      The former productive member of society loses his home, has to apply for assistance because min wage is not enough to support him, let alone his family.

      I totally understand both sides of the min wage argument. But shouldn’t people who are working be able to support themselves in the society that they are working in? Shouldn’t employers who are benefiting from the labor of their employees shoulder the cost of doing business, rather then pass off the cost onto the public?

      A simple fact of life, is that everyone is replaceable. Just because robots may do your neighbor’s job today, doesn’t mean a robot won’t be able to do your job tomorrow.

      • Tom_F

        Silly, you know that is not at all what I am talking about. Just look at all the minimum wage fast-food workers that, at best, will still be fast-food workers 30 years from now. DON’T HAVE CHILDREN UNTIL YOU HAVE SKILLS TO GET AND KEEP A JOB TO PROVIDE FOR THEM.

      • Mike Smithy

        Certainly the influx of illegal aliens by the tens of millions have had an effect in driving down the wages of many low skilled service sector jobs. If we are to be intellectually honest, we have to acknowledge that both Democrats and Republicans have been complicit in the illegal invasion. Plain and simple, the Democrats want the illegal votes to build their base. That is why they are opposed to voter ID laws. The Republicans want the cheap labor to establish a healthy bottom line. Shadow stats suggest that the real unemployment rate is more than twice that of the BLS statistics. Am I the only one that is insulted by the false narrative perpetuated by the media. Lastly, a person with initiative still has the opportunity to quit his/her minimum wage Mc-Job and create their own business. Even a person with a little initiative and personal responsibility can go to North Dakota and make a living wage right now.

        • peace angel

          WE have tooo many people and toooo many businesses already in the US.

          Tens of thousands of businesses are closing daily here and there is NO end in sight. Banks don’t loan money for businesses UNLESS you have money and no one who is working at MCD’s is going to have that kind of money.

          I believe North Dakota is the last big frontier in the US and I encourage lots of people to go there and they are toooo lazy.

      • peace angel

        NO generation has ever been able to support themselves on minimum wage. WHEN I made $2.50 per hour I had to live with other people. We all had to but back then those jobs enabled us to MOVE up in those companies and that is no longer an option for most of the work force.

        Because Obama is forcing the feds to pay $10.10 per hour our war vets will NOW be kicked out of the nation’s nursing homes according to a man who administer the Federal subsidies for vets in our nations nursing homes. THE feds don’t pay enough to pay the nursing home workers that wage and they are going to be forced to kick out our vets and to put people in those beds with real insurance.

        NOT only that tens of thousands of businesses are STILL closing their doors daily in the US and the recession is NOW a depression and that is NOT going to change. EVER

    • TVP

      In 1964, minimum wage was five silver quarters, or about one ounce of silver. So, if it were not for inflation caused by the FED (as all readers of this blog are aware), everyone with a min. wage job would be getting paid well over $20/hour, which is the bank-smashed price of silver per ounce today. Don’t blame your working class brothers and sisters for what is obviously not their own fault; we are all being oppressed equally, by the same cabal of evil sociopaths – the parasitical elite ruling class

      • Mike Smithy

        Thanks for bringing context to the discussion. In 1979, the minimum wage was approximately $2.85 per hour and I had a part time job making $3.20 an hour. Gas was selling for approximately 65 cents per gallon. For an hours worth of labor, I could purchase approximately 5 gallons of gas. Today gas is selling for approximately $3.40 per gallon. That would be the equivalent of $17.00 per hour today. The fundamental difference is that when I was in High School in 1979, I was not competing with 20 million illegal aliens for my job.

      • FreeThinker

        Brilliant and true.

    • peace angel

      I have watched for six decades as the world keeps bringing more starving children into the world. Children in nations in which their parents KNEW before they had them that they had a good chance of living in pain from hunger from birth and possibly eventually starving to death in Africa and India.

      Today this is the case all over the world. Michael reports all the time as do others that this is a daily problem in the US and almost 2 million kids that we know of are homeless and of course going hungry DAILY. We send billions all over the world to feed some of the billion people we have overpopulated the world with and we have for decades had a bunch of politicians who go to Bohemian Grove annually to Cremate Care and they DON’T CARE about the problem here.

      IN fact last year Obama made homelessness against the law and is herding tens of thousands of people into the FEMA Concentration camps in every state and telling them “you can check out anytime you want, but you can NEVER leave.”

      Ventura filmed dozens of children and hundreds of adults in an episode of Conspiracy Theory behind the double razor wired fences of a secret RED ZONE and the people were soooo drug up they DID not even see a huge film crew and buses a few yards from them. THIS is the future of kids being born all over the world.

      THE US is the model nation for the NWO and if people do not fear the robots taking half the world’s jobs they need to fear these camps and the paramilitary police state that has already been legislated in the US with executive orders by the past 7 presidents. People DO need to stop having kids in the US and all over the world. THEIR futures are hellish looking. Really. NOTHING looks good any place in the world for years an years to come.

      The NDAA act of 2011 labels all our war vets as “domestic terrorists” and “enemies of the state” and “psychotic” and have ordered LEO to be much harder on them in any type of situation and to treat them as the killing machines the military trained them to be. MY guys tell me there are memos to LEO to warn that they are likely to have a mental illness like PTSD or a brain injury. War vet abuse is a daily occurrence in the US and I counsel war vets and I warn them NOT to advertise their service any more on license plates or ball caps or in traffic stop. THEY all have a bulls eye on their futures going back to our vets from VietNam. THIS is a very sad reality as is all the news going into the future.

      I decided at 15 this was not a world to bring kids into and today my generation worries every day for their kids and as they watch them having grandkids. Because of overpopulation and corruption worldwide and the creation of the NWO no one should be having children any place on planet earth.

    • Stormtrooper

      Bingo! Can’t feed, house and clothe them……DON’T have them……geez.

    • Anthony Papagallo

      anyone who earns less than 25k dollars a year should be forcibly sterilised, and any children they have already produced should be taken from them and given to childless families with a net income of 50k dollars a year.

      who’s ready to pass the laws for that ? is that the America you all want?

    • piccadillybabe

      It’s a no brainer to see where this world is headed but why can’t the general public see the “robot in the room.” Many Americans (usually the not too smart variety) still expect the federal government to take care of them and theirs. Hard to believe McDs employees wanted over $15.00/hr to flip burgers and serve drinks plus benefits and vacation time. Actually I would prefer a robot making and serving my food at McDs. At least I know, it will be polite and the food will not be tampered with due to rage or anger for not being treated well or paid enough.

    • Mondobeyondo

      Robots can’t feel love or empathy. Robots can’t reproduce. And… oh brother, here we go…

      Mini Jeopardy!
      “The category: Snowballs”
      “Alex, what is “what snowmen don’t have”?
      “Correct! You make the next selection!

    • Guest

      You seem to have a serious lack of compassion for the poor. But your anger is as misguided as the protesters. McDonalds isn’t the problem. The poor are not the problem. ITS WALL STREET! It should have been burned to the ground long ago. But there are very few men left. The pussification of Amerika is the problem.

    • Guest

      You seem to have a serious lack of compassion for the poor. But your anger is as misguided as the protesters. McDonalds isn’t the problem. The poor are not the problem. ITS WALL STREET GREED!

    • david james

      hows the Stockholm syndrome working out for you? Good? The point of an economy is so people can live and raise families, not so a banking cartel can enslave individuals and keep them childless by conspiring with gov to legalize a “minimum wage” to control the behavior options of the debt servicing population. The problem is that people have been conditioned to think that people must serve the needs of the economy. It’s the other way round.

      • Tom_F

        Your point of view is exactly correct, for you and everyone else who takes far more out of the economy than they put in. FYI, an “economy” is not some amorphous entity; it is every single individual that exists within it, in sum. For instance, in California 49% of the State income tax is paid by the top 1% of earners. Keep that in mind next time you are tempted to misuse terms like “cartel”, “enslave”, “conspire”, etc.

    • Sean Holt

      wow just wow not everybody can afford to pay for the education required for the high paying jobs. hopefully the robot replaces you first asshole

      • Tom_F

        wow just wow, you completely miss the point. If you don’t have money for “education required for the high paying jobs, then how do you expect to raise a child? Looking for a little Critical Thinking, here.

    • AssHat900

      Conservatarded.

    • Bruce

      It doesnt matter what the job is. If your gainfully employeed and providing labor the exisiting Minimum wage is atrociously low. 10.10 is fair in my opinion. In fact, the only ones who oppose it are those who live way above it.
      Minimum wage jobs are NOT just for the lesser educated or unskilled. There are no where near enough jobs and good, decent, hard working people are taking anything they can find. 7.25 is WRONG no matter which way you look at it.

      • Tom_F

        @Bruce, not that it matters, but what do you base your opinion on? What matters is the VALUE of the labor in the marketplace, and after paying for materials, food, packaging, marketing, insurance, taxes, overhead, inspection, licensing, and PROFIT (which is the reason businesses exist in the first place), how it totals up to the bottom line. Minimum wage is artificially “high” already; if people had to compete for available jobs and match their (very minimal) skills and education for fast-food or other jobs paying minimum wage, they wouldn’t even earn $7.25. And in case you failed to understand my point, DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN IF YOU ONLY HAVE SKILLS AND EDUCATION THAT WILL GET YOU MINIMUM WAGE. You can’t afford those children, and it isn’t “fair” to ask the rest of the citizens to pick up your slack.

  • Tatiana Covington

    “What do you do with ten billion unemployed?”–RCW Ettinger

    There’s one thing robots won’t take because they don’t need it: food. And then the robots realize that we must have it…

    Where could that one go?

    • Kevin Holt

      “Our creation” will decide to make war upon it’s creator, much as we have.

    • Mike Smithy

      What else but war.

  • mikeymike61

    good, I would rather talk to a pleasant robot who gives me my order correctly instead of the welfare queens typically employed there. let the uninspired 40 year old min wage morons that f’ed up in skool sit on their a$$es in front of their plasma TV’s and talk on their sail foams. Who needs em.
    Hopefully after fast food robots are perfected, then the robot manufacturers can focus on robots that replace wives?

    • Nicknakthetruthspeaker

      yeah, and robots don’t spit in your coffee!
      everything will be built correctly because robots are precise and things will be 5 times cheaper.

      • mikeymike61

        and they wont run out of chicken nuggets cause moron in charge of ordering the chicken nuggets will be out of a job….I cant wait,,, especially for the wife thing

    • Eric Quintero

      Wife replacement has already begun in Japan.

      • mikeymike61

        as long as they got a good selection of hair color, Im in.

  • Rainwaterrunningdog

    Robots will be implied into the many industries, however there will be a short life span because reality still exist. If I don’t have a job I cannot buy it! The rich cannot get rich if I cannot buy it. Unless the robots pay “me” a monthly wage to live on. In reality there are such things as brick walls.

  • Mike Smithy

    After reading this article, it took me back to the old sci-fi thriller “Westworld”. Does anyone remember that movie?

    • PotHead69

      Yea, the terminator and robocop series ripped all their ideas off from it. Good flick.

  • Bill

    Can’t change the direction of politics, can’t change the direction of robotics. We humans are doomed. When we get doomed we won’t need politics nor robotics. Will there be any animals left?

  • Georgiaboy61

    Michael, in other stories you have written, you have touched upon the coming death of the middle class – or at the very least, its radical downsizing and diminishment. One of the chief reasons the middle class come into existence centuries ago was because the regents and leaders of the then-new nation-states needed a pool of skilled, educated labor to fill jobs in the state and economic bureaucracy, as well as in factories and workshops. The middle classes were also needed to man the ranks of the large militaries of these nations.

    Today, technology is rapidly lessening the numbers of people needed to perform these functions – and thus, the powers-that-be have concluded that they no longer need the middle class – and that it can therefore be destroyed or allowed to vanish. The middle classes won’t be needed in the neo-feudal world being created.

  • Captain Canuck

    Once again you’re trapped in the past. I bet if you’d lived in the early 20th century, you’d be the first one screaming at Henry Ford for automating his auto plant in 1913.

    Efficiency isn’t the problem.

    A system in which we can all relatively benefit from it is.

    We need to stop looking to the past for out answers and start trying to imagine a workable, realistic and prosperous future.

    • Kevin Holt

      Point taken , but how do you convince those in power to create a system from which everyone benefits when in is not in their interest?

  • chilller

    Robots require maintenance and do break down. They will not tell you when they are not functioning properly and will continue to produce defective products until “someone” figures it out….costing a lot of $$$ in scrap. What happens when the power goes out…robots no workie…and need to be reset when power comes back up.

    • PotHead69

      Hmmm. I think those problems could be automated even easier than your job.

    • Bruce

      Even present day cars tell you when they are not functioning correctly. In addition, robots nor humans work when the power is off.

  • stingray

    2025?

  • alan

    I wonder how it will work out when the power starts going out or things get out of hand and the internet gets shutdown. This is a short sighted move that will fan the flames of collapse.

    Every day think about what you have done to prep and what you need to do. Every little small thing helps. Buy a couple silver coins or plant a bay leaves bush. Plan and then do something.

  • EC

    Well I personally believe that if people stop using the federal reserve money based on debt and start supporting local communities with bartering or trading of real assets then we won’t be under such control. There is dehumanization going on with technology, technology is not evil, but it is based on intent on the user. Get back to human interaction not social media. Get back to education thru humans not home school on computer’s.

  • K

    The simple summation of this situation is as follows. People are not important. People are outmoded. What in the world are people any good for? Yeah can just about imagine, what that attitude will lead to.

  • XSANDIEGOCA

    There is a SciFi novel here. The Elites live on the coasts on Elysian Estates and the mass of humanity is driven to the seething interior. There vast prison farms are built to house and control the excess population. Robots will replace guards. Medical experiments will be performed by DocBots that would make Mengele proud and rival those in Project 731 in Manchuria during WWII. Hunter Killer Robots will eliminate human trouble makers. Robot Drones will fly over the landscape monitoring the Blood Lands below. Equipped with lasers, they can eliminate trouble makers from 100 miles away. Those cute house robots will monitor you and when your health reaches a certain state, eliminate you. Population levels will be reduced and controlled to levels the Elites can only dream about. Those children allowed to live will be schooled largely by Robots. Those who fail THE COMMON CORE EXAM will be eliminated outright or sent into the interior. MINDBOTS will read your mind. Impure thoughts will be detected. Those thinking such thoughts will be…dealt with. Only the Elite Class will be allowed to program and control the robots. Most routine government functions will be done by robots. The kicker will be when the robots demand the right to vote or decide to revolt…. Of course, this is all a novel, right?

    • Kevin Holt

      well said.

    • Eric Quintero

      Sounds like “Half-Life”

      • PotHead69

        I though Mexicans where only into F.i.f.a

    • peace angel

      NO this is the future of the world. Obama has made homelessness against the law and began in 2008 putting the homeless into FEMA concentration camps.

  • Bruce

    No question this is coming but we are talking MANY years not 20 or so. Dull, mundane and tedious task will not be missed. Duties that require thinking and true cognitive rational decision making will still be around for a long time.

    • Kevin Holt

      And we can just eliminate those who are not suited for such duties as thinking and true cognitive rational decision making, like doctors, or home healthcare workers, or technicians, or accountants. Did you read the whole article?

      • Bruce

        Read every word. I would think if someone is not suited for thinking they should not be working anyway. It’s not only doctors or home health care workers that have to think ya know.

  • Orange Jean

    Think about that, next time you’re tempted to go through the automated checkout at the grocery store… I refuse to use them!

    At my job one out of three of my assigned goals for the year is to “automate” my computer program that produces the data I need to write my main monthly report. Not really crazy about the idea…. but being able to keep my job requires me to do that.

    It’s not so different from the old days when it was common to have someone forced to train the person they planned to replace you with.

    • quercus454

      I refuse also. A person checking you out gets a pay check. That money gets spent locally. It keeps other small businesses open.
      If I use the self check, the money the corporation saves goes to the top. It doesn’t help the community.

    • Mike Smithy

      I don’t like using the automated checkout either. When I was a young lad working as a cashier in a grocery store, I took pride in being fast, friendly and efficient. However, I don’t see the same work ethic among cashiers anymore. It almost as if they take great pride in being painfully slow and inefficient.

      • Orange Jean

        Agreed! One of my earliest jobs I worked as a cashier, back in the day when operating the cash register was WORK. Even though it was considered a low skill job and paid only minimum wage… I found it was satisfying if I could get through the day without having made any mistakes, and could also take pride in being fast, friendly and efficient.

  • jakartaman

    Its coming and has been for years.
    The true biggy is when AI is perfected.
    The japanese have spent billions on it and it too is close.
    This should be viewed as a positive development, however, the process of gettin to full complete robotic automation of society Where humans sun themselves on beaches and get $$ and freebies while robots do ALL the work an thinking will be very very painfull.

    • jox

      I agree with you. The future is bright, but the problem is the transition to the new model.

      • liberalsareuselesspiecesofshit

        go away you eurotrash fembot

    • Drud

      Again, I must ask, where does this ideal society get its energy?

      • neal

        Technologies such as flat be thorium could provide abundant energy.
        We might not even need abundant energy as much of the energy we use now to fun offices or commute to work will no longer be needed. Also most devices will need less energy.
        For example it takes far less energy to run the laptop that I’m typing on than on the desktop IBM with CRT that I used a decade ago, another decade and I’ll be using a more energy miserly device for my computing needs and it will outperform this cheap laptop as much as this cheap laptop outperforms my top of the range IBM.

  • Shawn A Cyran

    Michael you forgot to mention the Robot that can replace anesthesiologist. Not only are low wage jobs being replaced by robots but jobs that were once considered the best jobs around. Why pay someone 2500 for a surgery when you can pay 125 bucks.

  • jox

    We could enter in a golder era of humanity. Hard, dirty or dangerous jobs are eliminated. With very small effort we manufacture goods, clothes and food for everyone. We can afford a completely different way of life, where most people work few hours (or don’t work at all) and spend their time in activities related with sport, science, culture, travel, etc. The ONLY problem is that we need to find innovative ways to share the wealth and the jobs. I’m afraid that we are not capable of solving this in a rational way, so we’ll have revolutions and wars until the new society with new rules settles.

    • Backdoor Barry

      Ah yes, a workers paradise. Where have we heard that before? I believe it was Stalin, who also executed 20 million of his own people. Is this how you will deal with dissenters also?

      • jox

        Please don’t be childish, rejecting ideas before considering them seriously, simply by puting a label on them. Yes, it could be a workers paradise, but just because people of you, that cannot grasp the concept but anyway opposes fiercely, we’ll need to traverse the revolutions and wars phase before avieving the new model of society.

        • Backdoor Barry

          50% of this country does not believe in what your proposing and they’re armed. Is this why you want their guns? What you want is not going to happen without blood shed. I’m being a realist, not childish.

          • jox

            It’s not ‘what I want’ but ‘what is going to happen’. Look at the food stamps programs: wealth redistribution has started. You really pretend to oppose progress with guns? Do you want to go back to the far west era? (I’m european. I’d love to take your guns, because I’m afraid you’ll use them to kill yourselves)

          • Backdoor Barry

            You talk like your ideas are new, there not. They’ve been tried and they have failed miserably. All throughout history leaders have spoken just like your speaking now, of a new utopia and it has always ended in mass extermination of dissenters and political opponents so I don’t buy what your selling. You’d love to take my guns, huh? You’re European? Now it all makes sense. You have no idea what your dealing with, I suggest you focus on the problems you have at home, there quite big.

          • jox

            I think you are not understanding me. I’m not speaking like the visionaires, but like Henry Ford, who automated the assembly lines and cars became so cheap that even the workers could buy one. I’m for capitalism and free markets, but we are entering a world were our work is not needed. Full employment will never happen, this is a fact. You don’t buy my ideas about sharing wealth and prosperity, but you are not proposing alternatives, except guns. By the way, I’m not taking your guns, don’t worry. I’m afraid you americans will kill each other, and that’s terrible. You are right that in Europe we have huge problems, but don’t be mislead by the media, they exaggerate them so that american problems seem minor in comparison.

          • liberalsareuselesspiecesofshit

            you are a liberal lying failure

          • Eric Quintero

            Who brought up the guns solution? Why do you feel the need to plant words in people’s mouths? Your communist leaders have always ruled with guns and an iron fist. Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Che, Hitler etc. all took power with the barrel of a gun.

          • PotHead69

            Keep posting, some of us want to read what life is actually like over there, instead of all the corporate propaganda these clowns are killing their brain cells with.

          • liberalsareuselesspiecesofshit

            you are an effeminate socialist, the truth comes out.

          • PotHead69

            Only 50% of the voters. let’s get these facts straight. The majority of the country is too lazy to get off their fat arses to get to the polls. If everyone voted, there would be no republicans left

        • liberalsareuselesspiecesofshit

          you are a childish commie ratbastard

    • Drud

      The ironic thing is such a world is, more or less, technically feasible, but it will not happen any time soon. The biggest technical hurdle is energy. We need a clean, renewable and essentially infinite source to make such a world functional. The bigger problem is people. It is not enough that 95% or 99% of the people simply want to live in peace and enjoy culture and arts, etc, the other 1% will always crave power and find a way to take it from the others. On a slight tangent: there is a book by Lawrence Krauss called “The Physics of Star Trek,” a really good read actually, but it got me thinking of a book on “”The Economics of Star Trek.” Roddenberry’s is very much like the one you describe. I think it can exist for one simple reason: society has eliminated scarcity, and thereby eliminated greed. Think about it: if you are hungry, you simply replicate up a meal. If you need to go somewhere you pop in the transporter. If a society were ever to truly eliminate scarcity, it would eliminate greed.

    • Axel

      People cannot accept this as something good in the US because we have been conditioned by our masters to view this as something evil and bad (aka communism). Communism failed and will always fail because it stifled creativeness in people, ruled with an iron fist of fear and never allowed anyone the ability to strive for beauty, imagination and the like.

      Capitalism while it allows for innovation is also lacking because while it takes ideas from those free thinkers and creatives it also imprisons sub level workers who churn out these wonderful and innovative products.

      Thus the ones at the bottom are trapped in a constant cycle of work, home, work and fear because they are working a low wage job to support their families and mentally are unable to think about anything else. Basically their imagination and spirit is stifled because they are always in survival mode.

      • jox

        I agree with you 100%

  • Backdoor Barry

    What’s the end game here? Who will have money to buy anything?

    • jox

      Everybody is going to have money, if wealth is shared in a rational way. Anyway, you wont need much money if goods, food and cloth are very cheap.

      • Backdoor Barry

        Shared? Like communist Cuba, Stalins Russia? Mao’s China? Where has wealth sharing ever been shown to work? You live in fantasy land, like most commies.

        • jox

          No, shared as in Sweden or Denmark, countries that have the highest standard of living in the world, with the highest levels of happiness, and were people discuss alternatives rationally and don’t discard ideas simply putting a label on them. And no, I’m not communist, not even socialist. I’m only trying to envision a future were the human work is not needed. Please make the effort of imaging it.

          • Backdoor Barry

            A system that works for 10 million people is not gonna work in a country of 330 million people with 50 states all with their own constitutions. Not gonna happen.

          • jox

            I don’t speack about their current system, but about their ability to afford changes and challenges in a cool and rational way, discussing the benefits of different alternatives. I think they are a model everybody else should imitate.

          • liberalsareuselesspiecesofshit

            lmao you are useless

          • Zenithon

            I see your point. It’s a nice vision, but you also have to see the one where greedy power hungry people/nations build unimaginably horrible automated weapons to destroy each other. If history provides us any clues to where this goes, just look at how technology has been used in warfare in the past and one must conclude with almost certainty that we will see more of it in the future.

          • PotHead69

            Don’t forget, they also have the highest life expectancy, isn’t that what it’s really all about?

      • liberalsareuselesspiecesofshit

        lmao

  • Joe Kleinkamp

    When McDonalds executives see a mob of angry demonstrators outside their headquarters led by bullhorn wielding activists demanding a minimum of $15 / hr. will they:
    A) Raise prices to pay up?
    B) Look for ways to cut overhead and pay up?
    C) Increase the workload of a reduced workforce to pay up?
    D) Replace human labor with robots and increase profits?
    I watched an interview with a spokesman for IRobot, makers of Roomba etc. He was hawking their newest product, a $20,000 robot designed to replace humans doing low tech assembly jobs. The irony, he was proud to say it was made by American workers.

    • Mike Smithy

      Many fast food establishment in North Dakota are paying $15.00 per hour + because they are desperate for labor.

      • PotHead69

        Yeah, cuz who the F want to live in the coldest, crappiest state in the country ya dweeb. Stop pumping this Fox News big oil bs

  • Vlad Lenin

    LOL. My robot is smarter than your high school graduate on common core. Improvise, adapt, overcome. Learn how to build and service robots until they figure it out for themselves…then prepare for the culling they will impose of the useless bipeds.

  • James

    Two points to make:

    1) Where will the unemployed or under employed people get their money to buy the things that these corporations make?

    2) If the cost of using these robots is cheaper than using humans, then why isn’t the savings passed on to the consumer?

    • quercus454

      The history of shortsightedness among corporate bigwigs is long and lasting..

    • Kevin Holt

      because the profits go to the shareholder.

      • Kevin Holt

        with the appropriate obscenely large bonuses to the management team that made it happen of course.

      • Mike Smithy

        Theoretically you are correct. However in far too many publicly held companies, the cronies have the status of “Preferred Stock Holders” whom eat at the trough first. Far too many boards of directors accept bribes and payoffs to turn a bind eye to mismanagement. When the mismanagement reaches critical mass, the CEO’s are released from their responsibilities with generous golden parachutes at the expense of the “Common Share Holders”.

      • Gay Veteran

        shareholders? yes, the top 1%

  • liberalsareuselesspiecesofshit

    ok, more lazy fat democrats receiving WELFARE

  • liberalsareuselesspiecesofshit

    eurotrash liberals think they have the answer, LMAO.

    Europe is a friggin’ mess, bwhahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  • Paul Anders

    You can’t force a company to “not” have robots, but you can impose a tax on them to use for a compensation fund. This fund would compensate unemployed workers that lost their jobs to robots…

  • Kevin Holt

    Welcome to the brave new world. It will not be self-sustaining.
    There is a proverb, a warning to the person of means, “I will speak against those who cheat employees of their wages, who oppress widows and orphans, or who deprive the foreigners living among you of justice”, and also “For listen! Hear the cries of the field workers whom you have cheated of their pay. The wages you held back cry out against you. The cries of those who harvest your fields have reached the ears of the LORD of Heaven’s Armies.

    When there are no opportunities for people to earn a living, there will as well be reduced business and profits, because people will not have the money to spend on things that they do not need.

    During the nineteenth century in this country, a person could find work as a simple laborer and earn about a dollar a day. But, there was no income tax, no federal reserve, and no healthcare insurance. It only cost about 27 cents per day in that time to support a person. There also was no where near the massive unneeded junk with which we fill our lives every day. So much for progress.

    • Drud

      Well said, Kevin. We have lost all perspective on what is important and what is … simply decadence.

  • Mudpie

    Gotta say there is an irony here. Make it expensive to hire and fire workers who do not produce, and voila, we have this situation. It is as obvious a causal mechanism as one could find. Heck, I do not blame somebody risking his capital on a franchise for not wanting to deal with unions, etc. So there you go.

  • DJohn1

    The old newspaper industry (now dying) handled it this way.
    In 1970, after a 6 week strike, in return for all our jurisdiction over the work, the newspaper gave us life time jobs in trust in the composing room.
    There were 225 printers working at the newspaper at the time. We died off. We retired. Each new set of buyouts took anywhere from 25-50 people out of the room.
    Automation took their places. When I left to retire with a 6-month bonus incentive to do so, I was 65. There were approximately 13 printers left doing composing room work in about five different independent units of the newspaper.
    7 years prior to retiring, I moved out of the composing room to an experimental unit in Vandalia. This sister city to Dayton had a miniature composing room unit consisting of 2 billing clerks, one graphic artist, and one printer. We worked almost exclusively on neighborhood advertising for our Zones. The Zones were cheap advertising only going to certain areas of the city and surrounding areas.
    I took a hit on hours and went from 35 hours a week to 40 hours a week at the same pay hourly that I was making. I went to 40 hours salaried with anything over 40 hours was overtime. That 40 hour week put me at a hundred dollars net more a week.
    I was retrained into billing advertising. I was the backup ad builder for the printer on staff. I was also a competent typist and was utilized to type in ad copy.
    We actually produced a weekly edition plus some retail advertising with 8-10 advertising sales people at this little unit.
    The key here is we had a craft union that was able to negotiate a deal with a paper making 9 million net per week.
    We were the first. Others followed.
    The newspaper chose to do it in a way that minimized our losses over a long period of time. And that is the only sensible way to automate.
    We had many years of experience. They needed that experience to make automation work long term. The alternative was huge profit losses because the original automation really did not work as advertised.
    Ironically after we retired, the newspaper profits shrunk for many reasons. I like to think the printers were keeping that newspaper alive for many years.

    • gooby

      And now print is pretty much dead .

      • danbax

        yes. why buy a newspaper with day old news when I can get news as it happens online ?

        my mom (in her 70s) still likes to read the newspaper and so do people that use coupons, but i think the trend will continue downward as the newspaper use dies off

      • DJohn1

        I disagree. In 2007, when I retired I was responsible for 845 million dollars worth of MAJORS advertising. They put me over that advertising after losing 30,000 dollars in one week. That was just 6 national ads that went wrong in the process. I had a reputation for keeping errors to a minimum on a lot less revenue in telemarketing.
        The news is the circus. The reporters running AP Wire and other services instead of getting out there and digging up the dirt like it used to be. Circulation is the lifeblood of a newspaper and it is sadly remiss in a lot of management today.

        What runs a newspaper is all kinds of advertising. To this day, automobile advertising is a substantial revenue bringer at daily newspapers.
        Legal advertising is another big money maker. The delinquint real estate can extend to 8-12 pages of agate(classified type).
        The good managers are rare. They make all the difference between success and failure at a daily newspaper even now.
        Good managers know the business from the ground up. The mistake is hiring people out of college without the necessary experience in the business.

    • PotHead69

      Gotta train your replacements.

  • Drud

    These trends, while frightening, simply cannot continue, for two huge reasons: first energy. A system experiencing diminishing returns (EROEI) on energy cannot simply decide to use more energy because it makes financial sense–well, actually it can, but only for a little while. Higher energy consumption will simply hasten collapse. Secondly, there is Fordism, as in, if workers are doing all the work, who will have money to buy all the crap they are producing?

    • quercus454

      Even HF realized that to sell his autos, people had to earn enough to buy them. He paid his employees more then the other companies did for that very reason.

      • Drud

        That was my point, but I typed too fast and it came off wrong.

  • underaged

    Vending machines replaced tens of thousands of food servers a long time ago. Fork lifts, conveyor belts and carousels replaced tens of thousands of warehouse workers a long time ago.

    Meet the new robot, same as the old robot. This is not new. Manufacturing and distribution automation has been with us for over two centuries, get over it.

  • Trailer Park Investor

    That does not compute.
    Can a robot collect unemployment?
    Can a robot cry or care about a customer?
    “Sorry I ripped your finger off at the take out window, NEXT”, “Would you like fries with that Sir/Mam”.

    • quagmire

      lol NEXT

  • Axel

    None of this matters. We are currently in the Golden Age in our society. That is the final stage before destruction as it has been long before you and I were born and it will be in the future. Each society goes through 4 stages of knowledge. Once these have been achieved a complete wipe out occurs and things start over with the next group. Look forward to your future because death is not the end and never will be (too bad the religious leaders co-opted this for their own selfish reasons because we are all capable of super human feats of the extraordinary).

  • MS

    Michael, you forgot about workers’ comp (no insurance premiums or claims dollars with robots), legal fees (to unscrupulous lawyers, deadbeat workers, leftist states and a multitude of government agencies), employment verification, background checks, obamacare, constantly shifting employment laws, benefits, vacation, falsified documentation, poor attitudes, unionization and the list goes on and on. Managing low skilled labor is a massive headache. Why wouldn’t companies use a cheaper, lower risk alternative? Would be irresponsible not to.

  • http://batman-news.com PullHeadOut

    When the Automobile was invented the worriers of the day cried that the carriage builder would be put out of work and woo be unto all of us. Putting mundane jobs up for the robot, helps everybody. The low paid worker will move on to a more challenging and potentially rewarding job, or maybe not. After all, the US has a very large safety net system for the low wage worker and the under employed, or maybe not. Stop feeding the WildLife.

    • Mike Smithy

      Excellent point.

    • Eric Quintero

      Did you read the article? These robots are replacing SKILLED professions, too.

      Correct me if Im wrong, but doesnt an anesthesiologist require like 8-10 years of schooling/training? These robots are replacing workers at all levels of the skill spectrum.

      • anonymous1

        Good point.

        The 99% are in this together.

  • grumpyhillbilly

    I really want an EMT device for Christmas. Its a lovely idea to replace pesky humans with robots til someone comes up with idea that those robots don’t buy anything.

  • down and out in the U.S.S.A

    Will robots be paying taxes or buying retail or attending college or buying securities?? I anticipate a complete collapse of many professions perhaps euthanasia will be the new retiremnet plan for Americans.

    • PotHead69

      It’s called a transition period, and no it’s not gonna be pretty

  • Seth

    The invention of the sewing machine was also deemed to be the end of the world for a large percentage of jobs as machines took them over…perhaps we will adapt to this unknown world, re-learn to produce for ourselves, and actually become more self dependent. People will find a way…well, some of them.

  • gooby

    Thank god for the sewing machines now all the Jews are lawyers , doctors , bankers and media mogols .What would we do without every facet of our society dominated by these criminals.

  • TVP

    While I know it can be difficult to envision today, all of this will lead to the creation of a much better world. The job structure must change from manual jobs of labor to entrepreneurial jobs of the mind. Human beings were born to create, to use their minds, not just their bodies. We were created in the image of the creator himself, and so we are meant to create in our own right. The transition will be difficult, but it’s already happening. You can embrace it and begin your own business, or you can blow your brains out. If you follow alternative media with a blind eye, guess which one you might be more motivated to do?

  • Inquietude

    This is what evolution looks like. It’s survival of the fittest… always has been, always will be. People who lack the intelligence and ingenuity to support themselves under this technological environment will either die off quickly or become completely reliant on the government until the government is no longer able to support them.

    We are witnessing a major shift from organic to robotic. Many humans are beginning to become ‘useless eaters’ and obsolete, from a strictly economic standpoint, and an economic catastrophe could be the catalyst to a major die off. The warning signs are everywhere.

    We must all learn to be self-sufficient, one way or another.

  • Phinehas

    Robots don’t require overtime pay, PTO, holiday pay, shift differential, Workman’s Comp, HEALTH CARE, retirement benefits, etc. You don’t have to worry about lazy employees, staff with entitlement issues, unions, etc. Now all you need is some kind of global plague and/or wars to reduce the population of peasants since we don’t need the manpower any longer.

    • anonymous1

      “You don’t have to worry about lazy employees…”

      Will we still have to worry about lazy CEOs and upper management?

  • http://www.FounderChurch.Blogspot.Com/ “FounderChurch”

    Search “FounderChurch” teachings. For the last century or two humans have been pricing their labor too high and machines are being built to replace them. This needs tempering by reducing the price of labor NOT by banning machines. There are thousands of ways to do this.

    • dvew

      Name one? You can’t. Phony.

    • llrigfek

      Yeah, you kook.

  • TrailerParkElna

    When my wife became pregnant, neither of us had our college degree. I worked multiple low paying jobs with the intent of graduating. At that point my family wasn’t going away, so I had to step up. We routinely stayed up all night (alternately) studying.
    I graduated with a degree in Engineering, she as an RN.
    No student loans, no grants. People often seemed amazed that we accomplished this, but truthfully, desire overcame everything else.
    When we were in school,we also didn’t buy anything. And when I say anything, I mean ANYTHING.
    We didn’t have cell phones, cable tv, go out to eat, hell I didn’t buy shoelaces.
    What I found is that if you are sincere and dedicated, no one can stop you.
    Was it easy? No. Was it humiliating asking people to donate clothes for your newborn? Yes.
    During that time there were plenty of things I wanted, but the only thing I needed was to graduate.
    And was it worth it? Yes, because I don’t believe a robot will replace either of us.

    • dharma

      If Doctors can be replaced by robots, so can you and your wife. Your wife’s job is almost as valuable as that of a Doctor. Yours is not.

      • Eric Quintero

        Engineers can build, repair and maintain robots.

        • Tom_F

          So can robots.

    • anonymous1

      Any grants or scholarships? How does one live in a trailer park and outright afford 2 college educations in the USA? Please show us your detailed formula for this. I am sure those that are part of the $1 trillion student loan debt and others would like to know how it can be done.

  • tfb

    Robots will build the cars, the phones, the burgers and the buns.
    What will the robots buy?
    How will profits improve when there is no one left to buy your products?
    It’s 3A.M. and grandma has all the properties on the monopoly board. Just about time for someone to kick the game board over and scream, “FK YOU GRAMA, YOU’RE A CHEATING WHORE!”

  • Mondobeyondo

    If you want to see where this is all (possibly) headed, you might want to check out this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srm5qGb099U

    • danbax

      I forgot that Google was buying up robot companies

  • Priszilla

    Fast Food is bad for your health anyway.

    And Vienna has far less Fiaker drivers today than 200 years ago.

    When was the last time you used a shoe shine boy in the street?

    I probably 20 years ago in Hong Kong. When I moved to China I could have had my shoes shined in the sauna. And the socks were washed and pressed,too when I left.

    Ever been to a sauna in China? I guess you could never have such service in America. In Europe you need to plan for a visit in the sauna and take at least your own towel and slippers.

    In China you just leave the office at 8pm, hail a taxi go to the sauna. They give you a towel and slippers, you have a shower and a sauna and a massage, maybe a cupping, manicure and pedicure, if you wish, maybe a buffet and a nap, and a taxi home. Clean and full and relaxed.

    And don’t tell me all those sauna attendents have a highly qualified job. In Hong Kong, in a public toilet in a supermarket there is always an attendent, that cleans the place. Same for a public pool.

    • PotHead69

      Asia is completely different from here. There is honor in doing a good job no matter where it stands in the hierarchy. I assume they are paid a living wage as well.

    • anonymous1

      Public toilets are rarely clean in the USA.

      • Priszilla

        Went with my Asian boyfriend on holiday to Europe. His first impression: It’s dirty here. Second impression: Why are all the shops closed? (It was 8pm)

  • Eric Quintero

    UAVs have already begun taking out pilots. First the military will fully convert to UAS and then the civilian sector will follow suit. Skills and experience will be replaced by superior software and ultra precise algorithms.

    I worked on UAVs during my time in the Marine Corps. I can attest to the fact that UAVs can land in what would be impossible conditions for a human operator.

    Once when we were out training in SoCal we began experiencing some really high winds. Our bird was still in the sky and we needed to get it down fast before the winds picked up any more. The winds were already out of tolerance. We decided our only option was to attempt to land the bird anyway; it was a ‘now or never’ situation.

    That bird came down with such a strong crosswind that it ended up landing SIDEWAYS and then auto corrected as soon as it touched down on the runway. Ive never seen a human pilot land a fixed wing sideways. Robots can do it tho.

    • Priszilla

      Watch more youtube.

      • Eric Quintero

        What?

        • Priszilla

          There are videos on youtube with passenger planes landing sideways.

          • Eric Quintero

            Yes, but how long have those pilots been flying? 10 yrs? 15 yrs?

            The automatic landing software is able to perform some master level maneuvers right out of the box. No training necessary.

            I did watch some vids on youtube, and despite their impressive feats, these pilots would still come second to an automatic landing system.

          • Priszilla

            You know the best way to kill a computer?

            A cup of coffee into their power supply.

          • Eric Quintero

            And then you just swap parts. Much easier than swapping pilots.

          • Priszilla

            That’s good. So instead of learning to fly and risking your life, people will have more time to spend with their children and parents.

            No more doctors who have been 48h on duty when they are called to take out that bullet or sew the knife wound.

            More time for everybody to take drugs and shoot each other.

    • PotHead69

      Buy google stock, I am.

  • Mondobeyondo

    I am watching (?) the Disney movie “Frozen” for the first time this afternoon. Yeah, I’m a bit late to the party. That “snowman” song is kinda cute – addictive too. Hey, I just might watch this movie again.

    Anywho……
    Trouble beckons, nonetheless.
    If you are waiting for a pop culture reference to “Frozen” and our current socioeconomic situation…..
    Keep waiting. It shouldn’t be long.

  • durango

    Australia has all these unskilled jobs but the minimum wage is $16 an hour permanent (with 4 weeks holidays a year) or the casual minimum wage is $20 an hour (the price of a big mac is the same as the US.) This is the case with most other countries with advanced economies. If an employer tried to pay $8 an hour in Australia he’d be sent to prison.
    In Australia medical treatment is also free.
    Why does the US economy find it so difficult to pay decent wages or look after the sick? I’d say it is an ideological thing held in the heads of Americans themselves – it has nothing to do with economic conditions. It seems that even the average American doesn’t object because he thinks that he is going to be a capitalist one day so he had better support the system. It rarely happens for them though.

    • Priszilla

      Apart from the North Koreans the Americans are probably most brainwashed.

      Only recently, with the advent of the WWW they got in contact with the rest of the world.

      • peace angel

        THE OSTRICH NATION is still NOT waking up fast enough as is clear by the comments on this thread.

        • Priszilla

          The more people are in a meeting, the longer it takes and the less results you get.

          The more people you have the longer it takes for societies to change.

          A momentum depends directly on the mass.

    • barbie

      This is very true and accurate. We will defend the rights of the rich to the ends of the earth, but the poor well they get what they deserve because they are lazy. I want to live in Australia.

      • anonymous1

        The rich are worshipped and protected all over the world.

        • GSOB

          Without the sovereign God effectually selecting whom He wills, none can not but love the world.

          Death and Destruction are never satisfied, and neither are human eyes

          When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.

          Do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

          For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world.

          The world is passing away, and also its lusts; but the one who does the will of God lives forever.

    • peace angel

      THOSE countries DO not have corrupt politicians who for decades have pissed away tax payer monies as is coming out daily here in the US. WE have and have had corrupt politicians forever who spend our money like drunken sailors on ridiculous unnecessary things and the Ostrich Nation has slept and done nothing about it. ALL over the world young people are protesting corrupt government spending while the young people in the US protest McDonalds.

      • durango

        In 2007 I had 5 credit cards and the outstanding balance was
        about $72,000 in total. I realised that with the amount of interest I was
        paying I would never pay them off, and besides I needed the money to retire in
        a few years. So I solved the problem by declaring myself bankrupt. I filled out
        a simple form I downloaded from the internet and sent it off. Total cost to me
        was one postage stamp. I got a letter back a week later telling me that I was
        bankrupt and no longer owed any money. I was allowed to keep my car valued at
        under $7000, I was allowed to keep my $100,000 worth of superannuation, and I
        was allowed to keep all my wages because I was only getting paid $800 a week
        back then. And they told me that if any creditor eg, American Express etc tried
        to contact me that I should inform them so they could stick the police on them.
        The bankruptcy dept never contacted me again and I was automatically released
        from it 3 years later.

        I love the
        Australian system.

        Okay – I’ll admit
        it, I’m a total bum, and always have been since I dropped out of high school. I
        am a welder. I turn up to work every day looking like a bum. I get $30 an hour,
        four week holidays, 8 days a year sick pay, 10 paid public holidays a year, my
        employer pays 9% of my pay extra into my
        superannuation, 17 ½ % extra pay when I go on holidays, double pay for
        working overtime, yes $60 an hour, and a $3500 bonus every year (that they don’t
        legally have to pay.).

        I can go and have open heart surgery and it won’t cost me a
        cent. If I become unemployed I will get $250 per week and this will continue
        forever if I can’t find a job, much more for families. Unemployed people with
        families make more money than I do.

        Does all of this mean the country is going broke? Companies
        still make huge profits. No one goes hungry. Everyone is well fed and clothed
        and drive around in their cars. The sky isn’t falling in. There are no swat
        teams running around the streets, and in Australia a person has to try really
        hard to go to prison.

        None of this is
        unique to Australia. Most advanced economies are roughly the same as Australia’s.
        And Australia is no wealthier than America per capita.

        I’m all for
        Americans. I think they are a great people. I just don’t like to see them get
        brainwashed and ripped off. I just look forward to the day when they wake up to
        themselves. Life isn’t about making money for corporations, it’s about dignity
        and happiness.

        • PotHead69

          Nice post, this is really gonna burn these tea baggers. They’ve been fed so much corporate propaganda, that they blame all the countries woes on the working man, poor immigrants, etc.

          • anonymous1

            The gripe most Americans seem to have with immigrants is that there are not enough jobs and not enough good jobs, and now there are hundreds of thousands more people showing up and needing jobs. It is a Supply and Demand issue. It has zero to do with race or heritage.

            When on an airplane, the safety speech always says that one should put on their oxygen mask first BEFORE helping their children or anyone else. Well, that is what many Americans feel should be done with the job situation. Stop ALL immigration, until every American has a good job that pays a living wage and gives them 30+ days paid annual leave, and pays enough that people can retire by age 50. Stop ALL immigration until there are zero homeless people in the USA. Job training and college should return to being free (people say “An educated society is a better society,” so if they believe that, make education free again). How can someone be expected to help others if they don’t put their oxygen mask on first?

        • anonymous1

          “I was only getting paid $800 per week back then?”

          That would be considered an excellent wage in the USA right now in 2014. Meanwhile, our food costs are supposed to go up again. In some areas, the news has reported that one would have to make $30/hr to be able to afford a modest apartment. Then, they report that the homeless population is rising. Not a word about rent control though. One city is even rounding up the homeless and putting them into a camp.

          Being a poor has almost become a crime in the USA. Meanwhile, those with power are doing almost everything they can to make more people poor.

    • PotHead69

      Because we spend over a trillion dollars a year on incarceration and military

    • neal

      durango, I live in Australia and things are not as rosy as you paint them. Our health care system is better and cheaper, but if you rely on the public health care system you will wait weeks or months for treatment. Last year I shattered my arm at work ( comminuted bayonet fracture), because it was at work my employers compulsory insurance covered me having surgery that day at a private hospital, had I gone to a public hospital I would have waited 2 weeks in a queue for that surgery. Could you imagine carrying around a shattered arm for 2 weeks?
      Over a quarter of our hospital beds are filled with alcoholics and druggies who pay nothing and cause the long waiting lists. Our doctors waiting rooms are filled with hypochondriacs who go every week because it is free, now they are planning to have a fee of $7 to see a doctor. GOOD!

      • durango

        Neal – the only people who have to wait are those going to hospital for elective surgery. No one with a shattered arm has to wait two weeks. Do Australians think they are hard done by? yes they do, but that is not the reality.

        • neal

          durango, that was the expected time that I was told by by surgeon to get my surgery in Westmead Hospital on the 7th Jan 2013; with the public hospitals minimising their elective rosters after Christmas it is not unusual for any non life threatening injury to wait. You would be surprised what is counted as elective surgery. Not unusual for people to wait 6 months for things like hip replacement even if that means you are wheelchair bound in the queue.
          Even people requiring cancer treatment go on waiting lists as I was told by a colleague who beats the wait because he has full private cover. He said he is only alive because he gets timely treatment.

    • anonymous1

      This may be why so many Americans are trying to relocate to Australia and New Zealand. Trouble is, Australia is very strict with immigration, so, many Americans cannot get in.

      Australia also does not require college students to take classes that have zero to do with their major. In the USA, a Math major would be required to take English classes. Some people won’t go to college, even though they are very intelligent, because they don’t want to pay for classes they are not interested in taking. Why prevent someone from earning a Math degree just because they aren’t good at defining sentence structure? In Australia, a Math major takes Math classes to earn a Math degree. The USA likes to believe that their education system is flawless; yet we have a drop-out rate and rank about 36th in the world when we are tested. The USA spends a ton of money on education, yet the Nordic countries rank #1 in the world for Math skills. Yet, most Americans become very angry if anyone suggests offering other options to the current Prussian school system in the USA. Many American students are discouraged.

      The USA is also very sick. We are obese, diabetic, cancer-ridden, and the list goes on. Yet, talk above removing the GMOs from the food or allowing people to work less in order to reduce stress, and Americans freak out. Americans seem veey terrified of any change. They can keep their old systems, but at least offer options to those that want to try something different. Almost daily, there are stories of bullies on the news.

      Many Americans complain about the homeless, but few want to do anything. There are empty houses, buildings, etc. all over the country, but almost nobody wants to remodel those places or build new to house the homeless. Instead of hiring 10 people to do a job, many employers want to hire 1 person and work that 1 person so hard and long that they end up needing medical care (physical and emotional), their kids run wild since the parents are always working just to pay basic bills, etc.

      Americans have identified the problems. It is just nobody want a to agree on a solution, or several solutions, and the wealthy want everything to stay just as it is. They enjoy being the 1% because it makes them feel smarter and superior to everyone else. Working class Americans used to be able to get free job training and free education (Berkeley was free in the 1960s) and middle class families were able to stay together and thrive then. Now, student loan debt is $1 trillion + and has passed up credit card debt. The American divorce rate is very high. Kids growing up by themselves because their parents are working is a pretty good percentage. Studies have shown that Americans work more, take less vacation, and retire later than any other industrialized country. Yet, look at how many are homeless and poor in the USA. Yet, almost nobody does anything. You would think millions of Americans would be peacefully in the streets with picket signs and refusing to work until wages and conditions are improved to where our middle-class can thrive again.

      Many “average” Americans want to try different things, but those with the money run the country. Those with money also run the world.

      • GSOB

        For all it’s worth.
        I love America.
        I love her idea of justice and liberty in the pursuit of happiness.

        As a beacon of freedom, she promises the best conditions for ‘life’ in this world, as we know it…
        under the sun. In this sense, God has blessed America.

        God has predestined the boundaries of all nations, even the individuals that comprise their communities and is the ‘invisible hand’ in the affairs of all men….

        that they may grope for Him…
        because He is not far from each one of us.

        Deuteronomy 4:7
        Joel 2:29
        Acts 15:7-8,17

        Acts 17:26-28
        Romans 3:22
        1st Corinthians 12:13
        Galatians 3:26-28

        So, …what’s propping everything up, sustaining us in our efforts while we live life under the sun?

  • Priszilla

    California: Police kill two, followed by crackdown on demonstrators in Salinas

    By Eric London
    23 May 2014

    Tensions are reaching a boiling point in the agricultural town of
    Salinas, California as the population responds with hostility to a series of recent police killings that have taken place in working-class neighborhoods.

  • Richard

    What a disappointment! Michael’s back to asking silly questions again. MICHAEL, WHY DO YOU KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS YOU KNOW WE CAN’T ANSWER??? It is immensely irritating. I just can’t fathom why you do it. If you have so many questions, why not just take a few days to research the issue and then GIVE US THE ANSWERS instead of asking the silly questions. Here’s what I found in your article:
    1. So what in the world are we going to do when robots start taking millions upon millions more of our jobs?
    2. But what happens when robots are able to do just about everything less expensively and more efficiently than humans can?
    3. Where will our jobs come from?
    4. But what if everyone starts using these kinds of robots?
    5. What will that do to warehouse jobs?
    6. But what if a robot like that took your job?
    Would it be exciting then?
    7. Could you imagine such a world?
    8. When self-driving vehicles take over, what will happen to the 3.1 million Americans that drive trucks for a living?
    9. 47 per cent?
    10. What will the middle class do as their jobs are taken away?
    11. So what do you think of this robot invasion?

    FOR GOD’S SAKE, STOP IT MAN. I’M GOING TO TEAR MY HAIR OUT AND JUMP OFF A CLIFF…

    • Eric Quintero

      These questions are meant to spark discussion. Open ended questions produce interesting results.

      • Richard

        Please show me the ‘interesting results’.

    • peace angel

      YOU NEED MEDICATION

      • Richard

        In America everyone needs medication. You can’t move without it. And lots of the medication Americans need is BANNED in other countries. Thanks for the advice!

        • FirstGarden

          If they can’t profit from it, the Pharmaceutical Mafia will lean on their crony friends at the FDA to ban it.

          • Richard

            True… but they don’t even have to ban it. They just refuse to make it anymore.

        • peace angel

          WHAT are you talking about?? I am a senior citizen with lots of friends who are also senior citizens and no one is taking medication.

          My daddy died at 86 and he NEVER took medication and my mom died at 78 and she NEVER took medication.

          BOTH sets of grandparents NEVER took medications.

          Your generation is the ONE that bought into the RX propaganda as did your parents. Parents put their pre-school kids on mind bending and destroying drugs on a regular basis.

          WHAT medications are banned in the US that are available in other countries??

          My brother’s wife is a drug rep and I know we have ALL the drugs here. WE make them.

          Give me some facts and find a shrink instead of railing on Micheal for your anger management.

          • Richard

            No, sweetheart. I said there are medications that are banned in OTHER countries which are freely available in the U.S. where the medical industry is the most prolific drug pusher of ‘em all. (Adderall in Singapore, for example)
            It sounds like you’re too old to read properly. Plenty of nice, delicious, American drugs waiting in store for YOU, my man…

          • peace angel

            I am not your sweetheart or a man.

            YOU must be confused to think I am both OR maybe you misread me like I misread your comment.

            IT happens and I am not going to start doing drugs ever that are made in America.

            I did misread what you said and can read just fine when it is NOT the middle of the night and YES, lots of our drugs are illegal in all the nations who know we are being poisoned by them.

            GMOS and fluoride and antibiotics in animals are illegal in most industrialized nations as well. IF it is FDA approved I KNOW to be skeptical and don’t believe anything they say.

          • Richard

            “I can read just fine when it is NOT the middle of the night…”
            Advice: Turn on the light.

          • Orange Jean

            I do not myself like medicine, and try hard to keep the use down to a minimum… but there are times when it is necessary. Even so, I am very leery of any doctor who is too quick with the prescription pad!

            But if you live in the US… are you saying your grandparents never went to school? I ask that because until fairly recently you couldn’t go to school without getting vaccinated for smallpox. My brothers and I all had to get it redone every year because for some reason we never scarred… and you were required to show your vaccination scar.

            Some of the kids in my hometown got polio before the shots came out and were paralyzed for life. If my brother (Type 1 diabetic) didn’t get insulin, he’d have died at 14. I have a grandfather who died of pneumonia at 40 because there was no penicillin then. I would be in constant severe pain from my arthritis and degenerative disc disease if I couldn’t take some kind of pain meds.

            Lots of other examples. I think medicine should be used only when required, but there are times it’s really necessary.

    • aghast

      I know an excellent psychiatrist.
      He’ll take you on a sliding scale.
      (kidding)

  • Mondobeyondo

    Re: the minimum wage argument…(sigh)

    People should be paid what they’re worth.
    And according to the skill set they have,
    Plain and simple.

    Okay, you’re a fry guy at the Mickey D’s. You make sure the hash browns are burnt brown, because you know golden brown are out of the question. Recipe for disaster.

  • Anthony Papagallo

    CIO President Walter Reuther was being shown through the Ford Motor plant in Cleveland in the early 1950’s.

    A company official proudly pointed to some new automatically controlled machines and asked Reuther: “How are you going to collect union dues from these guys?”

    Reuther replied: “How are you going to get them to buy Fords?”

  • DJohn1

    The word is that no one has negotiaton when it comes to wages. You take whatever a company is willing to give you.
    If this were one or two companies it wouldn’t make a difference. You can always jump ship and try someone else.
    Even if you are very good at what you do, it makes no difference because the companies have the upper hand and have had the upper hand since Reagan was in office.
    This business with farming the work overseas has been around for a long time. It has finally caught up with the average person in the work force.
    Just like an entire bag of dirty tricks that companies now use to disobey the law of the land. Senior discrimination is more common now than it has ever been. Only no one in government will bring charges against the companies for doing it.
    Near as I can tell, the government has been bought off by the companies involved. Try proving it though.
    The Republicans are pro business vs pro labor. We have had a lot of that going around for a long time. The pendulum will swing back the other way someday. I simply do not know when it will happen.
    The Democrats are too fond of raising taxes. They are too fond of picking the pocket of the average person.
    The guy in the middle is the average person. And that is what is really wrong. Without raises to compensate for the inflation, the average person finds themself in a constant reduction in their standard of living year after year.
    Now it is to the point where almost half the population is unemployed. That is called a Great Depression. Woe be to those in office when that gets recognized. The last group in office when that happened were known as Hooverites and they were Republicans. It took them over 30 years to regain any political power after that happened.

    • Bill

      Interesting thought. If 100 million people are unemployed why DON’T we call it a depression? Could be because we turned into a communist socialistic dictatorship with an unlimited print currency. Nobody noticed until it was to late.

      • DJohn1

        In political talk, the word depression is one of those words that is unacceptable. Recession implies temporary problem. Depression took many years to resolve.

      • PotHead69

        ?? Outer space dude ??

        • Bill

          Keep smokin

      • Gezzer50

        It’s less a conspiracy and more of a perception problem. If anyone in power refers to it as a depression then they’re admitting that they’ve failed as an administration, plus the average joe will have a tendency to panic. But call it an “economic slow down” or some such foolishness and anyone with their head buried in the sand will think “Well things are tough, but at least we’re not in a depression, so things will turn around eventually”.

  • gwanaambi

    Seriously….who didn’t see this coming?

    • Mike Smithy

      Apparently President Zero didn’t see it coming.

      • gwanaambi

        I pay no attention to figureheads…

  • GSOB

    The short short….

    The purpose of creation is to build the house of God.

    No mere human, much less a robot, can do that.

    Jesus, the God-Man, is building His Church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.

  • ForrestByers

    What will ordinary people do in the world of ever-increasing robot population? I have an idea that goes against the commonly accepted preconceived conclusion that robots mean an end to human jobs. I forecast and ever-increasing expansion of the human imagination while dissipating the occurrence and frequency of human drudgery and or brain numbing static routine. As in times past those with imagination and drive without robot as well as with robots have and will rule the world towards the end of greater profits and the achievement of unbelievable living standards for the entire benefit of humanity!

    • Gezzer50

      One problem. Are you suggesting that some people will do alright because of what you envision? Or as I perceive it, you mean everyone will do alright? If it’s the latter I think you’re being way too optimistic. The problem is there are many people for many reasons that wouldn’t have the necessary attributes to adapt to the coming change. And what do we do to ensure their needs are met? Or do we not even bother?

      • ForrestByers

        I cannot account for every living human being in the whole wide world, but I can be relatively certain that in a capitalist system, which is the purest expression of personal liberty and personal freedom, are allowed to continue (it is questionable that it will) then increases in human productivity by way of escaping the mundane and routine, will produce such ideas and inventions, that the living standards of the people of the entire world will rise. More individuals will be able to pursue their dreams and with the fulfillment of those dreams lives of others will be inextricably affected and influenced exponentially to realities we cannot even conceive of. Machines are not the monsters, it is human greed and ambition, the quest for power over others the fulfillment of the totalitarian Marxist state or religious fanatic fanaticism known as Islam that should cause you to lose sleep at night for these are the killers of God-given human agency (the ability to choose for oneself) concerning liberty and freedom under the rule of law or murderous, suffocating tyranny!

        • Gezzer50

          “Machines are not the monsters, it is human greed and ambition”

          And that’s my fundamental problem. For some reason you only see the potential problem being the “greed and ambition” of the people of a small subset of the human race. This complete distrust of a small subset, is only compounded and made that much more disturbing by your utter trust in another small subset of the human race.

          Pure capitalism is amoral. It sees no right or wrong in anything and only works to take capital and increase it. This means if the people with capital could see major gains with 90% unemployment, that’s exactly what would happen. Your assurance that unfettered capitalism will save the human race is just as ridiculous as any Marxist or radical Muslim stating that the system they represent will as well.

          This is a new set of circumstances that the human race has never been in before. The fact that for the majority of us, our labours will be unwanted. That means we’ll need a completely new system to deal with it. What that system will ultimately turn out to be? I can’t say for certain. There’s going to be a lot of pain and hardship till we come up with the final answer, and people expounding and championing their current system of choice will only make it worse I’m afraid.

          • ForrestByers

            I have a suggestion, particularly, since your photo icon is what it is, the sooner you can get yourself out of a collectivist, oh my God the sky is falling, what am I going to do mindset and start looking towards your own inner resources, like spontaneity, personality, thrift and ambition, directing those elements into something that other people need or want, may be, just maybe, you might find out what true personal freedom is and why it is valuable to yourself as well as society in general. Here is wishing you much success and may – God – (it might help with you got to know Him) bless you in your fruitful efforts!

  • johnathan harris

    This reminds me of the movie I Robot doing these exact things until they realized purpose or Surrogate when every one was a android an humans were sitting in there pods fat and lazy and haven’t seen the light of day since who knows wen.But in serious manner this is terrible, people creating machines is a bad idea its only gonna make humans lose there jobs that need jobs and create riots, but then again maybe this could be a wake-call to people to better appreciate there jobs and be more grateful instead of complaining.

  • Raymond Jensen

    It seems obvious that although many routine jobs will be gone soon, there will be many jobs opening up for maintaining and programming these robots that will do these routine jobs. These jobs will require people who can think analytically and deal with situations that no computer or robot as yet can handle. So the question arises, why are the elites trying to further dumb-down our next generation with schemes such as common core, which is basically a training program for people who are to go into routine jobs, when these jobs are rapidly disappearing? The elites fear critically-thinking, independent people; the latter threaten their plans for neo-serfdom. But it is the same kind of people that will be necessary to advance technology.

    • Kent Harris

      Your view is incorrect. With less people working there is more people who are dependent on government. We see that occurring right now and the results are having devastating consequences.

  • Priszilla

    That’s good, isn’t it?

    It gives people more time to watch Big Brother and Americas Top Model, dreaming of making a lot of money.

    • PotHead69

      Sounds like a plan, I make my living making tv commercials, and biz is booming. Keep staring at the boob tube clowns

  • El mico

    Again the shortsightedness amazes me. Economics 101, people work, people get paid, people buy stuff, repeat. Notice the common denominator there.

  • Orange Jean

    Every job I had (and I’ve had quite a few, being in my 60s)… that involved “automation” was mind-numbingly boring. Some of you have said that having robots would be good as it would give us the luxury of time spent to think. In my experience, not how it works.

    My 2nd full time job after high school was working as a cashier… back in the day when running a cash register wasn’t automated and it felt like real work; at the end of the day it was satisfying if you got through it without any major glitches. You had to be on your toes constantly or the thing wouldn’t work right. You also had to figure out the correct totals, taxes, and change. Kept the mind working and you had to do it quickly to keep the customer satisfied. Nowadays its a job that all it involves is pushing a button with a picture on it and counting out the change that the machine tells you to give back. Sounds boring to me!

    Another example — baking bread. Making bread from scratch is time consuming yes… but it involves real skill do to it well and it’s therefore satisfying when you get it right. If you get the liquid you use too hot it’ll kill the yeast and if it’s too cold it won’t rise properly. You need to get a feel for how much flour to add to the liquid, because flour will vary in moisture and it’s not an exact science how much you need to add. You need to know when you’ve kneaded it long enough to develop the gluten and when it’s risen enough but not too much and the baking time can vary also depending on your oven. It’s interesting to try to figure out new variations on a recipe, and the results are very often yummy. Working in a factory on an assembly line that produces bread… doesn’t sound like fun to me.

    Take making clothes as a second example. It can be very rewarding to make your own clothes. There is an element of creativity, selecting patterns, fabrics, and fastenings that work well together can be very satisfying. It can be very challenging to make clothes that really fit a person, especially if you are not a “standard” size or shape. Putting together the pieces can be a challenge when trying out a new pattern and keeping your stitches straight and otherwise working with the fabric you’ve chosen is also a skill. When it works, it’s satisfying because you did it yourself and you can end up with clothing that is much more interesting, better made, and better fitting than anything you can buy. Time consuming, yes…. but compare that to a job where you sit on an assembly line all day doing the same dang thing over and over…. BORING!

  • PotHead69

    You enjoy banging silicone I take it?

  • Bubba Johnson

    I have spoken to Sara and John Conner. You are too late Micheal, the robots have been here for years. Notice all the Liberal Socialist Democrats?

  • Aaron

    Lud·dite (lŭd′īt)n.
    1. A group of British workers who between 1811 and 1816 rioted and
    destroyed laborsaving textile machinery in the belief that such
    machinery would diminish employment.

    —————–

    If people have any faith at all in a free market there is no need to fear labor saving technology. There is an infinite amount of work that can be done and if government regulations get out of the way the market will direct capital to its most productive uses and people will have jobs.

    “disruptive technology” can lead to societal change. In the short term, yes, people could lose there jobs. This does not mean new jobs will never come or that the change is bad for society.

    Would our society be better off if we destroyed textile machinery and went back to the loom? Should we destroy tractors so that more farmers are needed to do more manual labor for the same outcome? Maybe we should uninvent cars so all the carriage manufacturers and horseshoe manufacturers can get their jobs back?

    • Gezzer50

      Are you really sure everyone will have jobs? So I guess anyone currently out of work is in that predicament because of too much government regulation of the market and not the fact that there isn’t enough jobs to go around?
      Rabid capitalists make me laugh. The major cornerstone of any argument is that if the “free” market is unfettered then the flow of capital will take care of any economic woes. That just isn’t true. Capital has no conscience. It doesn’t care if you have 90% employment or 90% unemployment. It doesn’t care if industries destroy the environment or preserve it. It will simply favour the areas that will give the greatest return for said capital, regardless of whatever fallout this will produce.

  • http://www.rense.com EagleAmerica

    Orwell and Einstein foretold this many years ago that
    technology(robotos, machines) would take jobs and
    create a new world and society.

  • FirstGarden

    Does this mean they will finally hold the pickles on my burger?

  • Ray

    Who eats fast food?

    • Zenithon

      An estimated $110 billion is spent every year on fast food in the United states. My guess its that most people are eating fast food.

    • watchmanonthetower

      A: Slow learners.

      ~W

    • anonymous1

      Americans are kept so busy that many have no other choice.

  • Asta

    “The robots are coming, and they are going to take millions of our jobs.
    So what do you think of this robot invasion?”
    Sign of The Times, approaching End of the World, & Revelation!!! The Mark….

  • Albert8184

    Don’t worry. We’ll handle mass unemployment the way Stalin handled mass famine: Just let people starve until balance and parity is achieved. After all, when we don’t have enough jobs and people….. it’s obvious you have too many people.

    And we all evolved from jellyfish anyway. Or at least, that’s what the elites who don’t have to worry about extermination themselves believe.

  • xander cross

    “I love amazon”- Michael T Synder. Question for you, have you ever worked in one of their fulfillment centers? That quote right there is the problem now, everything is being brought is “made in China”. The customer is the problem.

    • Gezzer50

      I read an article one time. It wasn’t about an Amazon owned fulfilment center but a contract one, which I gather the majority are. And the journalist said it was a hell on earth scenario.

  • Geezer

    I think that they should replace politicians first. Then they can give them harder jobs latter.

  • anonymous1

    This is impossible. Humans enjoy feeling superior to other humans. How will they do that if everyone receives equal income and everyone does what they love?

  • aghast

    GayVet & Gary will always have a job.

  • aghast

    Gay Veteran wants a gay robot.
    Imagine that.

    • Mondobeyondo

      A gay robot? Robots have no sexual orientation and cannot reproduce (although I’m sure someone’s working on that as well. Yikes!!)

      • aghast

        Our gay friends can’t reproduce either (although I’m sure someone’s working on that as well. Yikes!!)

        As for gay robots, it’s all in the programming. (You can be sure someone’s working on THAT. :-)

      • watchmanonthetower

        It’s simply a matter of re-programming the Input Ports, no?

        ~W

        • aghast

          And the outputs.

    • Gay Veteran

      and the bigot puts in his worthless 2 cents

      • aghast

        Not a bigot, not a phobe. I’ve had plenty of gay friends. They’re just not obnoxious like you. You take a lot of heat mainly for being an a-hole, not for being gay. If you get that straight, we’ll all be a lot happier. But it seems that when anyone tries to appeal to you, you might pause for a moment to reflect, then soon you’re right back into your old adversarial rut again.

        Wouldn’t it be nice to have a NICE gay veteran???

        • Gay Veteran

          “Not a bigot, not a phobe. I’ve had plenty of gay friends….”

          ROFLOL, sure you do

          • aghast

            It would be very painful for you to see how wrong you are, Snagglepuss.

          • Gay Veteran

            yeah man, bet you and your Klan buddies got lots of Black friends too

          • aghast

            Gay Vet Wuss Puss Snagglepuss Troll suffers from PTSD.
            Too much action in the barracks.

          • Gay Veteran

            jeez, now I’ve got a stalker troll after me.
            buzz off aghASSt

          • aghast

            GV = Brainless buffoon. Always busy sliming up the blog. Sorry to slow you down, troll.

          • Gay Veteran

            hey Einstein, you’re the one stalking me

          • aghast

            You still don’t get it. One of my very best friends is black. Two of my grandchildren are half-black. Two of my neices are black. My daughter in law is Hispanic. I’m white, and yup, we are a mixed bunch. And yes, I have had gay friends. They’re not heterophobes like you.

          • Gay Veteran

            suuuuuuuuure they are

            now go take your nap and maybe mommy will fix you some cookies

          • aghast

            If this is a slimefest, you win.

          • Gay Veteran

            your momma would win

          • aghast

            Now that is REALLY slimy.
            Do you have any conscience at all?

          • Gay Veteran

            odd question coming from a bigot

          • aghast

            Well you answered it. No conscience. Troll-hole.

          • Gay Veteran

            I need a can of Troll-B-Gone to get rid of aghASSt

          • aghast

            A troll calling another a troll. Cheap reverse-psychology. Everyone in this blog can see thru your ruse.

          • Gay Veteran

            Everyone in this blog can see you’re an a-hole bigot

          • aghast

            Can’t you come up with something original? Don’t you realize how stupid you sound? You don’t care anyway since you troll for Media Matters. But the real tragedy is that you don’t even care about your own soul.

          • Gay Veteran

            boring troll

          • aghast

            “Everyone in this blog can see you’re an a-hole bigot.”

            Looks like I hit a nerve.

          • aghast

            Please keep talking. You undermine yourself far better than anyone else could.

          • aghast

            Now THAT was funny.
            Untrue, but funny.

          • aghast

            English Standard Version
            If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet.

            New American Standard Bible
            When a wise man has a controversy with a foolish man, The foolish man either rages or laughs, and there is no rest.

            King James Bible
            If a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he rage or laugh, there is no rest.

          • Gay Veteran

            thanks for admitting you’re a fool

          • aghast

            Is that all you got?
            You can to better than that.

          • aghast

            You’re full of it, and you know it.

          • Gay Veteran

            ewwwww, more troll drivel

          • heil hitler

            Hey vet – why are you fighting with this aghast dude so much? In fact, I notice you fighting with pretty much everyone here. Isn’t it time to be a vet and quit fighting the war?
            Peace.

          • Gay Veteran

            you should direct your question to aghast.
            or maybe you are aghast

          • heil hitler

            Nope. Aghast isn’t very bright. But you are both quite entertaining.

          • aghast

            A n d a f t e r b o r r o w i n g y o u r m o t h e r ‘s b e a u ti f u l w h i t e d r e s s, c o u l d n ‘t y o u a t l e a s t w a s h o u t t h e c u m s t a i n s ?

          • aghast

            I realize this will be a real challenge for you to read.
            Take a deep breath, focus, and read s-l-o-w-l-y.

          • Gay Veteran

            more projection from ashASSt

          • aghast

            aghast
            a day ago

            Gay Veteran’s PTSD Song:

            They’re coming to take me away, ha-haaa.
            They’re coming to take me away, ho-ho,hee-hee, ha-haaa. To the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time and I’ll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they’re coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!!
            To the happy home, with trees and flowers and chirping birds and basket weavers who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes and they’re coming to take me away, ha-haa!!!To the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time.

            Hammerstrike
            4 hours ago

            He is probably eager to meet the Health Inspector.

            Keywee
            13 hours ago

            Please stop clogging up the comments section with your irrelevant,
            off-topic personal attacks. I visit this site frequently and usually
            enjoy reading the comments, there are people from many walks of life and generally they can discuss issues like adults.

            anon > Keywee
            an hour ago

            I like Gay Veteran’s PTSD Song. It’s funny and makes me smile, especially when put to the right tune. :))

            aghast > Keywee
            10 hours ago

            He is a troll.

            Keywee > aghast
            an hour ago

            And you are not? Usually I ignore trolls and just focus on engaging
            with people who have positive contributions to make. The situation we
            are in worldwide is desperate and we need to realize that we are all in this boat together. Infighting amongst those who are awakened is
            exactly what TBTB want, it takes focus away from the real issues..

            aghast > Keywee
            10 minutes ago

            No, I’m not a troll. If you read thru the blogs, you will see that what I’m saying is true. I have gone after one troll (GV) because he is really bad and treats everyone with extreme disdain. It’s not about the gay thing, if
            you happen to be.. you have no need to defend him.

            “Usually I ignore trolls and just focus on engaging with people who have positive contributions to make.”

            I totally agree with you. But this is EXACTLY what GV has been against all along. I guess I just got tired of it.
            Sorry about that.

            I’ve pretty much wrapped things up with him. I’d like to say “truce”, but
            he’s not capable of it. If you don’t believe what I’m saying, try having a
            rational conversation with him sometime.

            aghast
            9 hours ago

            “When a wise man has a controversy with a foolish man, The foolish man either rages or laughs, and there is no rest.”

            Mike Smithy > aghast
            6 hours ago

            You are right. The foolish and disingenuous man will never engage with a logical argument supported by facts and balanced with critical
            thinking skills.

            aghast > Mike Smithy
            6 hours ago

            Well said. But in this case it’s worse. We have an absolute troll on
            our hands, who calls others trolls. I know not all will appreciate it,
            but I’ve gone after him to leave you guys free to blog. He’s only here to argue, not learn, grow or exchange good ideas. He is here for the sole purpose of disrupting. Even his name is meant to provoke. But it’s really not about him being gay. That’s a sideshow. (Most folks don’t really care). It’s really about snide, inflammatory remarks, causing commotion and getting everyone off track. Notice – my quarrel is with him alone. His quarrel is with everyone.

            aghast
            9 hours ago

            I’m not the wise man, but some of you are, and you will all get your turn arguing with this troll.

            Mondobeyondo > aghast
            21 hours ago

            Love that song!!
            (Napoleon XiV, 1966. Banned in several countries for its content)

            aghast > Mondobeyondo
            9 hours ago

            Gay Vet Snagglepuss Troll should be banned from Michael’s blogs. Notice he conflicts with everyone?

            Malcolm Reynolds > aghast
            9 hours ago

            LMAO! Love the song.
            True, he’s a troll and he and I conflict OFTEN, but I, for one, prefer it that way. You cant honestly tell me that you read those long conflicts and you don’t come away (at least sometimes) with a point you hadn’t considered or a better understanding of just how serious the cognitive dissonance is with those clowns. Let the left be the fascists.

          • aghast

            Are you playing the victim Gay card? You’re better than that.

          • Gay Veteran

            you forgot to say one of your VERY best friends is Jewish

          • aghast

            Your depravity and bad taste knows no bounds.

          • Gay Veteran

            your skills at projection are amazing

  • Mondobeyondo

    Some benefits of having robots perform human jobs:
    – They could care less about wages
    – They never sleep, eat or go to the restroom
    – They never take breaks
    – They never get sick (although they do break down)
    – Repetitive tasks? No problem!
    – Your boss… is whoever programmed you.

    Now, about us humans…
    I won’t jump the gun and say that we’re all doomed…

  • Zenithon

    Don’t worry Michael, in the future people will probably voluntarily implant themselves with so many computerized/robotic parts that they will hardly be able to distinguish themselves from their robotic brethren.

  • davidmpark

    What I’m reading from the article and from people posting here is very disturbing, and not in the way many are thinking.

    These assembly droids have been around for decades. My ex-father worked for a local company called Eaton-Kenway that built these robotic assembly and warehouse lines. The last time I was in his office was back in 1985. That’s how old this technology is. I also got to see how to machines were built and how they were centrally and semi-autonomously controlled.

    I really want to address some aspects of this technology: it’s an improvement, but it’s still flawed and will never reach total autonomy. I’ve argued this before and I stand by my original statements. The more complex a droid becomes, the more humans are needed to keep it going. Parts wear out, programming gets junked, and surges fry circuits – we cannot overcome that.

    Now, this doesn’t mean people will be out of work: people need to be what’s makes us all awesome – we need to be flexible and retrain. Flipping burgers for a living is lousy anyway, why not become the technician for the robotic McDonald’s? The more they cut costs and bring in customers, the more profit made, the more expansion must take place. And if their products flop, then they fail – the technician can work somewhere else. That’s the nature of our lives.

    And for those who are complaining about population control and killing off people; shut it! We are experiencing a worldwide population decrease. In a developed, industrial nation a replacement birthrate of 2.1 children per man/woman is needed to keep up the status quo. In nations with higher mortality rates, socialists, high poverty, and dictators need a replacement of 3.5 children per man/woman to keep up the population. Right now, Japan’s birthrate per 1000 people is 8.3 children born. Russia per 1000 people is 12.6 children born. The US per 1000 people is 12.7 children born. This is pathetic! We have an aging population that cannot be supported. And what of the children; can they come into their own in time to support you? We’re facing total collapse – this is not the time to stop having children, but to lift those rules, regulations, and attitudes that punish breeding.

    We have no choice but to go with droids for labor as there’s not enough people in the foreseeable future to handle running a civilization! But, there may not be enough children to replace us right now to keep the robots working…

    • Zenithon

      What you are saying is true for now, but you are assuming that there will never be a robot that can repair other robots.

      As far as the depopulation argument, we live in an age where body parts are quickly becoming replaceable and genetic research could very well find a way to end or dramaticaly slow aging, so what happens if the average lifespan doubles or triples?

      I’m not saying that this necessarily leads to doomsday. Our technology may very well lead to the most incredible time in human history, but when we live in an age with technological weaponry that can kill millions upon millions at a time, the chances are far greater than at any other time in history that it all could end very badly. Those that are worried or cautious about the possibility of a technalogical doomsday scenario taking place may be our only hope of it not happening.

      • davidmpark

        No, I won’t be assuming robots will be repairing other robots someday. The more complicated the robot, the more people it takes to repair it. They are tools that can only think mathematically. Do you work with robotics? Seriously, it’s fun. And working with them will give you a better understanding of their nature.

        As for cloning; I’m not going to trust it for a loooong time. We are still working out what in the human body does what. I’ve often spoken of my wife’s TBI, and what she’s facing. Doctor’s and Specialist’s right now cannot repair the brain – they’re still trying to figure out how it even works. When we can repair all parts of the human body, then I will think mankind ready to clone. As for body parts, that technology is in it’s infancy. It’s good stuff, but only a few parts can be done right now. It’s not going to be good enough to keep the elderly in the workforce unfortunately. We needed those children.

        I’ve heard of this “Singularity” for a while, but I don’t believe it’s possible. Far too many variables and we don’t have the funding nor the maturity to pull it off. But I do think we’re going to collapse and not do what’s right to fix it now.

    • rentslave

      The problem is this equation:Roe v Wade+AFDC=Feral population.

      • Gezzer50

        That’s a pretty broad statement, do you have any data to back that up? As well do you understand what feral means? It means an animal that was tame, but has reverted back to a wild state and therefore because of previously being tame has no fear of humans. I feel there’s a lot more to it than what you suggest.

  • Mondobeyondo

    !. This hurts. It cuts to the core…
    2. Please get it over with. Now. NOW.

    How does it feel to have your world rocked?
    By unemployment, or something similar?

    Well….
    Fun for a while. After about 6-8 months it’s hell.

  • Jay Sprueill

    Another scam story to take your mind off the real world issues. The puppet masters are preparing to depopulate the world so who gives a ripp how many robots they build, we are all robots in the eyes of the powers at hand. THE SKY IS FALLING. Seriously, we are living in the end times.

  • watchmanonthetower

    According to Siemens, there’s no beer robot being planned. I must say, this is disappointing. As a fan of Science Fiction for more than 40 years, I was really looking forward to it. Guess we’ll have to accept beer drones.

    Oh, well; resistance is futile, I hear.

    ~Watchman

  • Barn Cat

    I don’t believe it at all. The “robots” of today are either robot simulators, toys, or programmable arms. We’re much further away from real robots than the average person realises.

    • danbax

      so all the videos of big dog robot, asimo, packbot the army uses, are all fake?

  • Jose Chavez

    How can you sell anything if half the stuff your selling people can’t buy because they have no jobs…

    • Undecider

      They have a solution for that too. It’s called eugenics and depopulation. The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, along with the Rockefeller, Hewlett Foundation and Packard Foundation (among others) are hard at work making that dream a reality.

  • GSOB

    Robots don’t need to breath

  • asdasdasdsdirsāā

    Most of the jobs are already replaced by robotics.. This should be banned, else huge crisis ahead.

  • Cadros

    For those unfamiliar with the concept; post-scarcity economies are an idea of an advanced society where money is no longer necessary. 99.9% of the workforce in such an economy would be entirely roboticized. Artificial Intelligence would run our societies infrastructure, better and more efficient than any human could. Advertising wouldn’t be necessary either. If one has unlimited scarcity, you don’t have to compete for resources.

    The idea of what it means to be a human in a society would be turned on its head. Many of us define who we are by what we make of ourselves in terms of a career, and if working is voluntary (or even counterproductive to a machine), new ways of defining a person’s would have to be considered. Natural intelligence, artistry, creativity – especially design, knowledge accumulation, or whatever. I hope it happens!

  • tfusco2

    If this happens WHO WILL BUY THE PRODUCTS the little robots make?

    • Zzzz

      Guys on welfare… Well it would be called “guaranteed minimum income”.

      So no biggie!

  • Phil Faxio

    The author states that he “absolutely loves Amazon.” How ironic that he disparages robots that soon will kill jobs but praises Amazon who did the same by killing the local bookstores like Borders.
    I stand proud that I have never used Amazon and always buy my consumer goods from local merchants. So many people talk about the importance of locally sourced food or groceries, but that same is true of just about anything you buy.
    Not only will Amazon automate their warehouses, they will also follow the lead of the car companies and outsource those warehouses from America to the cheapest locations on Earth. Oh, look honey, we saved 2 dollars on this new cookbook and helped the job sector in Bangladesh at the same time!!

  • Luther

    The losers of society can be recycled as food. More adaptable species such as cockroaches and flies will thrive.

  • mikeb666

    If your going to make babies, you better make sure that that they can be educated to a level of education hwere they won’t be useless or redundant. Stop being selfish and making babies because, of cultural or family pressure, or worse because you want someone to take care ot you when your old. You better wake up people, there is a harsh new world coming. Humans are in the same position that horses were in at the end of the 19th century.

    • Gezzer50

      Actually the birth rates here in Canada have been failing for years, and I wouldn’t be surprised if that was true of most of the developed nations.

  • Gezzer50

    I have a number of misgivings on this subject. I know it’s inevitable, so we need to get used to the idea, and plan accordingly, but there’s one question in all this that no one asks. One of the human race’s best traits is our adaptability.

    We have an innate sense in identifying a problem and taking corrective steps, even if these steps are a totally new method never thought of before. On the other hand computers, and by extension robots, while they can appear adaptable, aren’t really. If who ever does the programming doesn’t account for something a robot will be stuck when it’s encountered, unable to proceed or worse proceeding when they shouldn’t. That’s kind of bad.

    But take it a step further and it could be very scary. For example would a robot flipping burgers recognize that the meat or lettuce was off? How? And what happens if it makes a 100, or a 1000 burgers before someone notices that there’s flies walking all over the meat? Or it has a rancid smell that is gone after cooking? Or what happens if the robot anesthesiologist encounters something outside it’s programming?

    Now don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying that humans are infallible and robots are not. But humans can quickly adapt when something out of the ordinary happens and robots can’t. So do we really want to take the chance where some really major human health issues are concerned, or will there be human overseers monitoring the robots? I’d suggest at first there will be, but after a point even their wages will look like an unneeded expense, and then the potential for a major disaster is very real IMHO.

  • Sandbagger

    “But what if a robot like that took your job?”

    Good question. If you’re a parent of a child still to decide upon their future employment, you may want to direct them to Spacely Sprockets.

    (Not kidding.)

    The technology is here and won’t go away. It’s up to us to adapt.

    • Sandbagger

      YouTube: Working for Mr. Spacely

      DS just told me he doesn’t want everyone to become fat because robots take over like they did in the movie WALL-E. :)

  • Brother Tim

    To this all comes from inflation. everyone needs more and more money to survive. The money lords and their dealers are pushing all this fake money all around the world and we are getting the effects of inflation. They can rise minimum wages to 20 dollars an hour but soon that wont be enough. inflation is destroying every thing we enjoy because its cost so much money. That is why they want those robots and cheep cheep labor. We seen even in China cheep labor will be taken over by robots. What did that President say if you give them control of the money they steal the cloths off your backs. I think something like that. That is whats happening folks. Unless we remove these central banks and start to take control of our life again things will continue to get worst.

  • Mondobeyondo

    Bought and sold to you by the very people who told you “technology will make your lives easier!” some 30-35 years ago. And we all lapped it up, like kittens that just discovered a milk fountain.

    Robots won’t make our lives easier. More complicated, yes. Easier?

    Automation has been in existence ever since Henry Ford established his assembly line means of production. No doubt whatsoever that his idea made for faster produced cars, etc.

    In the end, is it good for us, Mr. and Mrs. John Doe? Don’t know.

  • Mondobeyondo

    Has anyone ever thought of programming robots to kill terrorists?

    (reason why not: One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter. Or vice versa. Or.. who knows? This world is so upside down)

    • Undecider

      Who dictates who the terrorists are? The government that creates the terrorists?

  • Snagglepusbucket

    “Of course you can’t outlaw robots. And you can’t force companies to hire human workers.”

    You most damn-certainly *can*, if the consequence is that “we could potentially have major problems in our society as jobs at the low end of the wage scale quickly disappear.”

    All that’s needed is political will that’s tied to the well-being of the populace rather than the profits of the corporations. Duh.

  • Mondobeyondo

    We’re all going to be robots someday. At least, that’s how the “master plan” of those in charge goes. Obey or die.That is what they want.

    Don’t think it can happen here? The land of the free, home of the brave? Look up “Georgia Guidestones” on your favorite search engine.

    Hey Alice, how are you enjoying your trip through Horrorland?

  • Steve

    Having been in the accounting industry for over 25 years, I can tell you that the move today is to the cloud. Companies that provide IAAS, PAAS and SAAS are taking the infastructure out of the work place and integrating applications with accounting software that will replace the A/P clerk and other clerical jobs once preformed by mid-level workers. The objective is persistant data. Accounting information that flows without much human intervention to the books and integrates the information into the accounting system. Remember the IT people who used to work at your company? Gone. Infastructure As A Service. IAAS. Remember having to update your software and keep you computer up to date with Virus protection? Software AS A Service. Your program is hosted remotely, maintained and protected by someone else. No IT people, no worry about updating software or purchasing or protecting it. Something to think about.

    • Anonymous

      Imagine…..Accountants, Mathematicians, and Scientists that are easily swapped for machines. Many STEM people that I have met have been void of any human emotion, compassion, or empathy and have let everyone else in the room know how superior they were to us humans, even going as far to laugh at those of us that felt something when we admired art or literature. So, robots won’t be much of a change, in my opinion.

  • yhwhzson

    After reading the tasks that the UBR-1 does or is capable of doing. One should ask this question. Are robots replacing us, or were we being made robots out of until these electrical dummies came online. To put it more embarrassingly blunt. Were we the meantime dummies until the ultimate dummies were brought online.

    I did notice that on the list of problem-less perks that the so called majestic workers of the future would bring to the industry they fail to mention the most important. Revenue!
    Robots don’t buy anything. And with the mere mortal worker not having work, therefore a paycheck, who will purchase the products these electrical dummies will produce?

    It reminds me of the Initiator of the Nobel Peace Prize Alfred Nobel. Father of bomb making. His philosophy behind the prize was to in some way contribute to the elimination of the need of bombs (my take).

    And yet with all of the awardings of this prize named after him the world has built bigger bombs. The atom bomb was worked on ironically by Nobel Peace Prize winners.

    My point. Another case just like the robots replacing people of a process full of thought to be genius coming full circle and reflecting utter stupidity.

    The children of Israel traveled for 40 years in the wilderness until all the generation of fools died out. Robotic workers is the equivalent of the same in the wilderness of economy!

  • frank1569

    Date night; You grab cash from the bank-bot, use the ‘self checkout’ cashier-bot to purchase a frozen pizza (made by factory-bots) at the grocery, pick up a movie from the red DVD-bot.

    The robots aren’t coming – they’re here, and we love em.

  • Thomas

    At the risk of stating the obvious; Your employees are my customers and my employees are your customers. So when all the employees are gone, so are all the customers. The government may have to step in because employees pay taxes but robots are on a depreciation schedule.

  • JI

    My dream is robots that will pick crops. On those are invented, hen maybe the Republicans won’t support more Democrat-voting immigrants.

  • RedPillPlease

    What immediately came to mind reading this particular subject is the Georgia Guidestones (and there is much information written about them). Now before jumping to any conclusions, this was a multimillion dollar project, under the designs by a character using the phony name of R. C. Christian who said he represented a group who wished to remain anonymous. That in itself should raise some questions, but this “monument” is made of solid granite, astronomically aligned with the north star and the noon passing of the sun. It is more than obvious that quite some time was invested in just the design structure. But the main vertical slabs themselves reveal a sort of twisted 10 Commandments in eight different languages with the first one reading: “Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.”

    Another tablet states: “Let these be guidestones to an age of reason,” a clear reference to American outcast Thomas Paine, who received large condemnation from his work; “The Age of Reason”. BTW, it was Benjamin Franklin who offered stern advice to Paine, in that his book never be published, realizing the backlash it could bring upon him … which did occur. In fact, after Paine’s death, there was not a single church who would offer a burial plot on their grounds. He ended up by being buried on his own small farm with just a few people attending, having lived the rest of his days in poverty and suffering from alcholism.

    I’ll just stop here and allow you to make your own conclusions, with consideration to the global state of affairs, including our own.

  • Lfc88

    How is anyone going to pay for stuff if they don’t work. all well and good reducing your costs but if nobody can afford to pay for anything then you have no business it’s when the robots start building themselves or doing there own repair work then worry because the elite will then kill everybody.

  • Undecider

    Pure fantasy! Let’s just get government out of the way so we can determine our own futures. I don’t need technologists and futurists telling me how to live my life. The robots can be driven straight to the shredders.

  • ForrestByers

    I am not aware that the Lord Jesus Christ is or ever was a Marxist socialist redistributionist, but taught about the salvation of individual souls. The example being the “Good Samaritan” being essentially an individual laying on the side of the road is bypassed by several, including a Levite (a tribe who had responsibilities to the overseeing of religious practices having to do with the Temple Or House of the Lord, while a man of social outcast (a Samaritan) not only shows compassion, tending and caring, but takes the man up, delivers him to an innkeeper, gives provision for his care. When he must go away, he bids the innkeeper to care for the wayward stranger until his return so he might give just recompense for the man’s care. This is the compassion of an individual heart as well as a ensample and similitude of the sacrifice as well as the atonement of the Lord Jesus Christ, for the sins of the world, including yours and mine.
    As for my character, all I can say is neither one of us knows the other, except by whatever little rhetorical light is shown by our verbal examples. As for my compassion and charity towards others… I will leave that for the Lord and I to know and you, my good friend, to wonder about!

  • ThinkingHurtsAndImTired

    with my low iq of 145, my poverty level i was born with
    and of course im still in poverty,
    cause of all the made up you owe me everything laws
    no breaks no family no help
    but of course i am happy to support, the super rich welfare class. who are struggling with things they need like there own self created problem of the day.
    And who’s sole purpose seems to be to make everyone miserable and build a system were no one realizes they are being f^^^kd monitarily
    into supporting a few on system based on bs and illusions.
    But its ok cause
    im happy with my fellow poor suckers
    who worry about things like
    drugs celebrity’s and doing the right thing
    such as becoming the people who are f**kn them ect…

    Hey hand me that knife … thanks.
    ya you can go ahead you can turn around,
    me na im not salty. honest i can relate
    “i was a god in my own mind once too”
    sides im totally indoctrinated completely fooled
    would never research whats up.
    “hey hand me that fork” …
    thanks … “bites food” …listens…
    um humm
    you wanna change the world that’s why people need to suffer … um humm
    not enough.. food air land stuff… um humm
    “good food”
    and kill the poor, robots, laws, depopulate umm humm
    and not be affected yourself ….
    “that was a good steak”
    well…

    it all sounds good to me

    but i have a better idea why not just do everyone together
    …places fork softly on table… “Ahhhh all done”

  • dbtunr

    So learn the skills necessary to build the robots, program the robots, power the robots, or maintain the robots. Electrical Engineer, Software Eng, Mechanical Eng come to mind

  • Stephanie S

    Where will the robots live? Excuse me, be housed. Tax each company per robot and for any extra facility that houses them. All maintenance for robots is taxable also. Each new robot incurs an “installation” tax while each robot taken out of service is taxed at the redundancy rate. Robot disposal facilities must be licensed and pay taxes. Robot Inspectors must be employed by state and Federal govt. to monitor robot use and taxation. Seeeee… it’s all good.

  • Dude

    Learn how to write code, get a math or engineering degree and you can be a robot master

  • DerpDerp

    That’s a foolish statement to make. “People will end up boycotting places that have no human service”.
    Walmart pays its staff poorly. Everyone knows that. Yet millions of Americans still shop there because the prices are the cheapest around.
    China makes cheap junk, made by poorly paid workers with little to no protections. Yet millions of Americans still buy the junk because the prices are the cheapest around.
    What makes you think that Americans will boycott a store that can offer cheaper products/services because of robots?
    Again, I say, your statement is foolish and unrealistic. People are greedy and will sacrifice much to save a few pennies.

  • KDanagger

    All of this fear and hatred of robots is coming about as a result of people becoming increasingly lazy and unwilling to invest the time in themselves to become a tool-maker, rather than a “tool”.
    The scientists and engineers who create better and more efficient ways of producing things (including robots) ARE the people who have brought us out of the dark ages of repetitive, boring, and often dangerous human labor.
    It is absolute insanity to continue to waste human capital in those type of jobs when humans have to capacity to do much more than that.
    The key is to embrace the future, not fear it. Technology is not the enemy. Technology is nothing more than an collection of man-made tools of ever increasing complexity.

    One final fact – it is not necessary to spend hundreds or even tens of thousands of dollars (which you may not have) to attend a university to learn engineering. All of the information that you need to learn and succeed is available on the screen you are currently looking at.

    All you need is drive, ambition, and the courage to make the decision to better yourself, and invest in your own human capital.

  • matthewcornellthomas@gmail.com

    good with a robot slave I can program to do everything from weed the garden to do brain surgery on me I don’t need a job or money. if I need money I will put a stock market chip , really nothing changes if you are rich you get a robot at birth that will succeed for you. if you are poor then you can go learn from a public robot. plus I scratch off the serial number and program it to forage with extreme prejudice. whoever has the best robot rules the world. all praise unit 2200 the one that does the math and decides to cut back on the population of useless resource draining humans. at least the new and improved supercomputer God will reply to our email prayers.as humans we have always invented Gods to petition . when a robot takes care of all your needs who needs a God. I can’t wait I’m getting mine with the optional revolution chip. it will be fun and I say these thing in the name of the most high creator, father, and perfectly fair and just unit 2200.ok gotta go cops love to harass the homeleas. I wonder if cop robots will be programed to hate the poor like real cops

  • k-b

    Companies should be required to pay payroll taxes on these robots of at least minimum wage of the amount of human workers they replaced: social security, Medicare, l & I, unemployment insurance and new taxes to support technologically long term unemployed humans.

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