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The UN Security Council Has Just Officially Given Every Inch Of East Jerusalem To The Palestinians

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jerusalem-photo-by-berthold-wernerBarack Obama has just made the worst decision of his entire presidency.  On Friday, the UN Security Council adopted resolution 2334, and this never would have happened without the support and approval of Barack Obama.  Since the United States has veto power on the Security Council, no resolution can ever pass unless the United States allows it to pass.  For decades, it has been the policy of the U.S. government to veto all anti-Israel resolutions at the Security Council, and the Israeli government had been expecting that Barack Obama would not suddenly change that policy at the very end of his second term.  Most of the news headlines about resolution 2334 refer to “Israeli settlements”, but the reality of the matter is that this resolution is about much more than that.  The truth is that this resolution has established legally binding parameters for a “two-state solution” that Israel will never accept, and this includes giving every inch of East Jerusalem to the Palestinians.

If you have not read it yet, you can find the full text of resolution 2334 right here.  It is one of the most important documents of our time, so you need to take a few minutes to read it.

In the excerpt below, you will see that this resolution clearly states that East Jerusalem is in “Palestinian territory” and that the Security Council says that it will recognize no changes to the pre-1967 borders except “those agreed by the parties through negotiations”…

Reaffirms that the establishment by Israel of settlements in the Palestinian territory occupied since 1967, including East Jerusalem, has no legal validity and constitutes a flagrant violation under international law and a major obstacle to the achievement of the two-State solution and a just, lasting and comprehensive peace;

Reiterates its demand that Israel immediately and completely cease all settlement activities in the occupied Palestinian territory, including East Jerusalem, and that it fully respect all of its legal obligations in this regard;

Underlines that it will not recognize any changes to the 4 June 1967 lines, including with regard to Jerusalem, other than those agreed by the parties through negotiations;

Of course not one inch of East Jerusalem was controlled by Israel prior to the 1967 war.  So the UN Security Council is saying that unless the Palestinians agree to give it up, every single inch of East Jerusalem (including the Temple Mount) belongs to the Palestinians.

As I have explained before, UN Security Council resolutions are considered to be legally binding on the parties.  Now that the Palestinians have been granted full legal ownership over East Jerusalem, does anyone actually believe that they will ever willingly relinquish that?

Today, more than half a million Israelis live in East Jerusalem and the 137 settlements that are scattered throughout the West Bank.

Where are they all supposed to go?

This UN Security Council resolution never should have happened.  President-elect Donald Trump made it abundantly clear that he would have vetoed this resolution, but instead of deferring to the next administration Barack Obama decided to viciously stab Israel in the back.  This is the greatest betrayal of Israel in American history, and according to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu the Obama administration has been plotting this for quite a while

“From the information that we have, we have no doubt that the Obama administration initiated it, stood behind it, coordinated on the wording and demanded that it be passed,” Netanyahu said in a statement. “This is, of course, in complete contradiction of the traditional American policy that was committed to not trying to dictate terms for a permanent agreement, like any issue related to them in the Security Council, and, of course, the explicit commitment of President Obama himself, in 2011, to refrain from such steps.”

During an interview with with CNN on Sunday, an official spokesperson for Netanyahu said essentially the same thing…

Netanyahu spokesman David Keyes told CNN on Sunday, “We have iron-clad information, frankly, that the Obama administration really helped push this resolution and helped craft it, from sources internationally and sources in the Arab world.”

Unfortunately, Obama’s actions are going to have very serious implications for all of us.

As I just explained in an article on The Most Important News, those that bless Israel will be blessed, and those that curse Israel will be cursed.

And this is especially true when it comes to Jerusalem.  In Zechariah 2:8 we are told that those that touch Jerusalem touch the apple of God’s eye, and in Zechariah 12 we are told that the city of Jerusalem will play a significant role in the last days.  The following is what Zechariah 12:3 says in the Modern English Version

“And it will be on that day that I will set Jerusalem as a weighty stone to all the peoples. All who carry it will surely gash themselves, and all the nations of the land will be gathered against it.”

By defiantly attempting to divide the land of Israel and the city of Jerusalem during the waning days of his presidency, Barack Obama has cursed America.

You may not believe in blessings and curses, but the Word of God says that those that curse Israel will be cursed, and without a doubt we will most assuredly be cursed as a result of what Barack Obama has done.

And of course the entire Middle East is going to suffer as well.  Instead of bringing peace, this resolution just sets the stage for more conflict.  According to the Times of Israel, the Netanyahu government is already promising not to adhere to the terms of the resolution…

“Israel categorically rejects the despicable anti-Israeli resolution at the UN, and will not adhere to it,” the Prime Minister’s Office said in a seething statement after the council voted in favor of the motion 14-0.

Knowing all of this, put yourself into the shoes of the Palestinians for a moment.

The UN Security Council has given them legal rights to a nation with borders based on the pre-1967 lines.  They have been given every inch of East Jerusalem, and every Israeli settlement in East Jerusalem and the West Bank has officially been declared illegal.

If Israel refuses to budge, the Palestinians could very easily come to the conclusion that they have exhausted all legal channels for resolving the conflict and that the only way they are going to get what legally belongs to them is to take it by force.

A great war is coming to the Middle East, and it will be a life or death struggle between the Israelis and the Palestinians.

Nothing else that Barack Obama has done during his entire time in the White House even comes close to this.  He has greatly cursed America, he has set the stage for the bloodiest war the Middle East has ever seen, and he has defiantly shaken his fist at the one true God that created all things.

May God have mercy on us all.

  • Priya Chatterjee

    Correct step by Obama at last. Did in 1948 Israel think where will Palestinians go when they encroached upon their territory? Jews and some Christians live in myth that they are God’s chosen people. Good that bubble has burst. I support Trump against American establishment but not when supporting American Jewish establishment.

    • max gon

      Correct, Israel is a fascist state, and should the stolen territories to the Palestinians.

      • Roger

        I agree, Obama has been a screw up for the last eight years. He finally got something right.

        • Bill G Wilminton NC

          The Only Thing Obama Might Get Right Is That On The Way Out The Door On Jan 20 Doesnt Hit Him On The A**.

          • Rick

            But if it does, he will blame it on Bush and Trump.

          • Bill G Wilminton NC

            Yes…ha ha lol

        • Jerry C

          Nothing the Anti-Christ does will prosper.

      • Bill G Wilminton NC

        The Lands Were Originally Part Of “Israel” In The Biblical Days Or Up Til 70 AD.

        In The Modern Era; Gaza was Egyptian Land And West Bank Was Jordanian And Both Territories Were Won In 67 War….

        I Believe That President Trump Will Attempt To Disband The UN Rather Than Allow This Irrevocable Vote Against Israel To Stand…


        • the Bible is a novel , not a legal land deed ………..I have nothing against the Jews having their own land , but when you start stealing and bulldozing homes , killing women and children ,and running over protestors with bulldozers well then they need to be treated like criminals and homicidal maniacs .

          • Bill G Wilminton NC

            There Are 8 million People Living In Israel Surrounded By 1 Billion ARABS Hardly Bully Numbers lol.

            Israel Has Been Attacked 5 Times.

          • iris

            Yes, and they’ve also treated hundreds at least, of Muslim children and adults outside their borders in their state of the art hospitals for free, and given a great deal of help to the Gazans. I’d call that loving your enemies, something one never sees coming from the other sides. But the world believes the main stream media and UN’s racist tabloid “facts”, and has no understanding of actual history.

          • Gay Veteran

            treated ISIS terrorists

          • sharonsj

            We give billions to every other country too, but I don’t see you bitching about that. Also, Jews aren’t stealing land. But if you object to that, why aren’t you objecting to all the land and property stolen from every Jew who every lived in a Middle Eastern country other than Israel? If you bothered to check history, you’d know that, for example, Saddam Hussein of Iraq drove out 150,000 Jews and took their property. You, like too many people who run off at the mouth, know nothing of factual history.

          • actually bonehead i think we should end ALL foreign aid until poverty and homelessness is 100% eradicated in the good old USA ………..but thanks for asking.

            has for the rest of your babble , like I said before Jews have been hated since the dawn of mankind have you ever bothered to ask yourself why?

          • FireHope

            Well said.

          • iris

            Yep. Or the thousands of pogroms perpetrated against Jews around the world in the last 1500+ years, all in the name of Jesus Christ. They never knew Jesus, or they wouldn’t have murdered, exiled and stolen in His name. Real Christians around the world are mourning this recent decision and praying for Israel’s safety.

          • Gay Veteran

            how about we give ZERO American tax dollars to foreign countries

          • Cinderella Man

            Totally agree…the Israelis have done terrible things and have gotten away with it because they are the “chosen” people…well I happen to think Americans are the new chosen people..AMERICA FIRST

        • Rick

          You know your history better than the snowflakes on this board who think history started with obamas presidency. I couldn’t agree more. Trump should disband the UN and delegitimize what they are trying to do. As you know they are just an organized band of criminals, raping, murdering, child abusing, and stealing, all in the name of global good. Hopefully, Netanyahu will defend by force in any and all areas he needs to, and when the first shots are fired by the “Palestinians”, Trump sends our troops to fight alongside the Israelis. God may then again grant our reprieve as Michael likes to say.

          • Gay Veteran

            “…Trump sends our troops to fight alongside the Israelis….”

            time for you to march down to your local Army recruiting center, chickenhawk

        • keith plumley

          Getting the US out of the un would would be a great move.

          • Bill G Wilminton NC

            We NOW Have A LEADER That Can Figure OUT What To Do About The UN Vote Against Israel….Ha Ha It Will Be Fun To Watch Trump Work….Pray For The Protection Of Pres. Elect Trump.

        • iris

          God’s will be done. Only God will win for all believers, Jew and Gentile, ultimately. Meanwhile, I stand in faith. God bless.

      • Sun Rise

        On that token, then we should be giving back the Roth American continent to its indigenous peoples, as one example.

    • Bill G Wilminton NC

      “Palestinian” Is A Invented Word For A Invented People.

      There Are NO Palestinians As Gaza Was Egyptian Land And The West Bank Was Jordanian Land Til The War.

      After The Israelies Took Over These Lands And Started Growing Oranges The Size Of Basketballs Did The Word “Palestinians” Originate

      • Tobias J

        I’ve seen them at the UN. They sit behind a little sign that says Palestine. A nation doesn’t have to be created by a race, tribe or religion.

        • Bill G Wilminton NC


        • Bill G Wilminton NC

          Mens Room, Ladies Room Are Other Important Little Signs…..

          • old fart

            No more they are now peoples room. Pee at your own risk!!

          • Bill G Wilminton NC

            ha ha lol….that was good, thanks lol

      • Gay Veteran

        hey Bill, how about I come over and kick you out of your house because my “god” told me too

        • Bill G Wilminton NC

          You Couldn t You Would Be Too Busy Taking Care Of All Those Adopted Kids.


          • Gay Veteran

            you mean all those kids YOU refused to adopt


      hey Priya, I think your slurpee machine is on the fritz and your beef jerky is expired , thank don’t come again

    • Rick

      This is just our current muslim president’s last hurrah at creating terror in the Mid East like all extreme Islaam terrorists do. He no different and is a despicable human being. He’s trying to divide even up to his last days in office, even when he knows the decision goes directly against the incoming “Real” President’s wishes. He is just being the big A hole baby pres he’s always been. No surprise.

    • dghealy

      why will none of the neighbors take Palestinians? Because they want the world to hate Jews. screw the Palestinians. Just hate Jews. so much for Muslims taking care of Muslims. when the end justifies the means…

    • Jerry C

      1948 is your cutoff? Why not go further back in time? Say, when Israelis were kicked out? Hmmm… Bias much?

  • Mad Monkey

    The big sifting of the wheat and tares is coming, all things will soon be in chaos.

  • Chris

    The great tribulation is soon to begin. Are you ready?

    • GSOB


  • daroncrass

    This scripture has been twisted. The scripture about blessing and curses is referring to Abraham not to the modern nation of Israel. If anything we should be cursed by God for supporting such an evil state.

    • disqus_vM1Ts0vZ7C

      New Testament:
      “Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man
      that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of
      the Gentile:

      But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that
      worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to
      the Gentile.”
      Romans 2: 9 & 10

      God has not changed His order.
      In Genesis, the twelve boys: Reuben, Simeon,
      Levi, Judah, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Issachar,
      Zebulun, Joseph and Benjamin became the twelve
      tribes of Israel.

      In Revelation 21: 12, the names of the twelve tribes
      of the children of Israel are written on the twelve
      gates of holy Jerusalem, which descends out of

      From the beginning of the Bible until the end, God
      has placed the 12 Hebrew tribes at the forefront
      of His story.

  • Cobbett

    F$ck Israel.

  • FireHope

    The Jews are +/- 14.3 million worldwide now – about 6.5m in Israel. It is miraculous that they stood so long against so much hatred from everyone (including so called Christians and hundreds of millions of Muslims who want them exterminated). The original Jewish temple stood about 1000 years before the dome of the rock was built (more or less where the Dome of the Rock now stands). Unfortunately prophecy does not bode well for the Jews or Jerusalem in the last days (Read Chuck Misslers :”Behold a White Horse”) but the bottom line is that miracles keep happening around them e.g. their rescue from extermination, establishment of israel, rebuilding what was essentially a mess of a country into a prosperous one, winning various battles / wars against huge odds.

    • the Jews have been hated since the dawn of mankind even their own God exiled them to the desert did you ever stop and ask yourself maybe there is a justified reason why?

      • FireHope

        Sure – they have done some bad things – just like most nations. Certainly no more than super powers like Russia and America. But if I compare their country (been there) to Islamic countries like Pakistan, Turkey and Comores (been to all those places too) – they are far better as far as religious freedom and even human rights are concerned. Those are the same countries pointing fingers all the time – mean time they are allowing child rape, religious persecution (including murder), abuse & mistreatment of women and a host of other crimes.

        • ever been to the west bank? lets talk about human rights ………Israel is among the worlds worst abusers of human rights .

          it is my opinion that at this point in history Israel has made its own bed and now it is time to sleep in it and without US funding or support Israel is a like some little punk kid that starts fights knowing his big brother will come to his rescue ……………that has to end not one more dollar till the settlements stop .

          • FireHope

            and there should be justice for that of course. But then you better line up all the countries around them for some justice as well. Islam is far worse. Seen it with my own eyes over an extended period. I am talking about legalizing marriage of children, killing people because of their faith, allowing honoring killings by brothers of sisters etc. converting churches into mosques (hundreds of them) Istanbul and most of turkey was once Christian. Not any more. And this has continued for centuries from west to east.

          • no one has defended Islam ‘s crimes

            You are starting to sound like a child in grade school ,,,,,,,,,,”but they did it first ” or “they do it too” ……….in case you did not notice the rest of the world aside from the USA and its allies ARE at war with the criminal elements of Islam The USA continues to fund and support Islamic terrorists and has used them to fight proxy wars for almost a century but of course Israel wont say a word in fear of cutting off the billions of dollars a year gravy train they have feasted on since their inception.

            bottom line is this particular middle east problem has gone on for decades and it is time for it to end it is time for Israel to put on its big boy pants and defend itself over its own actions with no more big brother to prop them up .

          • FireHope

            Oh boy. Getting on your high horse are we sunshine? Was fairly civil up to that point. Hilarious! My point is simple, other countries who want to point fingers should take the log out their own eye first and that Israels human rights record is far better than those throwing the stones, including the US. Ok sweetheart, did that sink in ? Now go and dry your eyes and wipe your nose. Trust me, any replies will not be read. Farewell my fuzzy little friend.

          • LOL awfully thin skinned are we ? Well sweetheart have a good day

          • LIZ THE SHIZ

            have you ever heard of their Samson Option, believe me you don’t want it to happen

          • Rick

            It appears Israel did just fine without “Big Brother” in the 6 Day War.
            During the 1967 Six Day War, was the United States at war, too? And, if so, whose side was it on? It seems that the US sent the USS Liberty to spy on Israeli forces fighting in the Sinai while providing secret real-time battlefield intelligence to the Egyptian military. The US wanted to convince a skeptical Egypt that, despite their siding with the Soviets and their aggression against Israel, the US was really on their side, contrary to US public opinion. Israel was not supposed to discover this secret US betrayal, but they did and decided to only disable, but not to sink, the ‘enemy’ ship.

          • they fought that war with OUR money Israel would not exist without OUR money to the tune of over 10 billion every single year .

          • Rick

            After 1957, when the United States assumed responsibility for supporting Jordan and resumed economic aid to Egypt, assistance to the Arab states soared. Also, the United States was by far the biggest contributor of aid to the Palestinians through UNRWA, a status that continues to the present.

            U.S. economic grants to Israel ended in 1959. U.S. aid to Israel from then until 1985 consisted largely of loans, which Israel repaid, and surplus commodities, which Israel bought. Israel began buying arms from the United States in 1962, but did not receive any grant military assistance until after the 1973 Yom Kippur War. As a result, Israel had to go deeply into debt to finance its economic development and arms procurement. The decision to convert military aid to grants that year was based on the prevailing view in Congress that without a strong Israel, war in the Middle East was more likely, and that the U.S. would face higher direct expenditures in such an eventuality.

          • this is mostly a lie first off just this year we gave Israel 50+ billion in military aid and secondly ‘grants’ are not repaid otherwise they would be called loans not grants

            In my opinion Israels treatment of the Palestinians is not much different than the way the Nazis treated the Jews and has such the state of Israel should be abolished the Jews scattered to the winds much the same way their own ‘god’ did thousands of years ago .

          • Rick

            Sick, now you are just being “sick” or “stupid”. Check your fake news facts again. Here it is.
            WASHINGTON — The United States agreed Wednesday to provide Israel a record $38 billion in new military aid over the next decade. That’s 3.8 billion per year. We have given Egypt 1.5 billion per year from 2011-2015. When you throw in all the “reported” aid we give to all of the Muslim controlled countries it’s well above and beyond what we give Israel. Then you toss in all the fungible aid obama and Hillary have supplied illegally to ISIS, and Iran, and forget about a legitimate comparison.

          • Gay Veteran

            how about sending YOUR money to Israel.
            keep American tax dollars here at home

          • Gay Veteran

            well Junior why don’t you provide some EVIDENCE for your allegations.
            or are you an Israel Firster?

          • iris

            But you are defending their crimes, for if they continue to get their way, Jews in the ME and Israel, and Christians, for that matter, will be completely destroyed.

          • iris

            Bet you didn’t know that antiIsrael and antiSemitic propaganda started coming out of a MidWestern U.S. university in the 1980’s, written in different Arabic dialects, geared for reading by children, and disseminated in the ME to foment hatred. This may still be happening, wouldn’t be surprised, it was some of the very material the UN teachers in the schools in the ME have been giving out to students. Actually, this fomentation was started in other ways, back in the 1930’s, and was all about oil, under the guise of fighting Communism. Don’t you think it’s just remotely possible, (sarc) that oil is very much why the U.S. has gotten so involved? Get rid of the Jews for the hateful, oil rich Muslims and they’ll promise to keep us over a barrel regarding oil. Pun intended.

          • jox

            They don’t want to talk about west bank or human rights. They feel confortable in the arena of God prophecies.

        • iris

          so very true.

      • Jerry C

        You lump all God’s people into your label, the Jews. It was the money changers in the Temple who Yeshua beat out. 2/3 of Israelis today don’t believe in Him; yet, 1/3 do. Most of Israel today may be in rebellion to Him, but He protects Israel not because of them, but because He keeps His promises.

    • jakartaman

      But the Palistinians and the Muslim world of !.5 billion have way more nobel prizes to advance humanity

      • FireHope

        🙂 those nobel prizes are dubious to say the least. Here are just a few to give you a laugh…Henry Kissinger, the EU(seriously?), Obama (really?), Al Gore and Bob Dylan. It’s hilarious!

  • K

    At the end Israel stands alone.Well they are alone. We know the will undergo much suffering, But they are not defeated. See the hate, on this very board. The rejoicing at the evil that will come.God lives outside of time. He knew Obama would do this. As we have divided Israel so will our Country be divided. Notice we already are. No amount of facts, or debate will change any of these minds. Perhaps that is the curse,a permanently divided America/. An America where the majority are forever blinded to the truth.

    • jox

      Israel is alone because it is in the wrong side of history. The complete international comunity, even friends, are telling them to accept the two estate solution. But they don’t accept, nor their blind supporters in America. In the inmense arrogance of the ‘chosen people’ belief, you don’t want peace and in the end a bloodbath will result. I will blame it on your God and your arrogance.

      • K

        And so you show your blindness and arrogance.You would shake your fist at God. Let me know how that works out for you.

        • jox

          Your God could appear and tell clearly to the whole world that those lands are for jews. BUT that wont happen. Everything else are invention of humans that claim to have God on their side.

          I think that YOU are shaken your fist at God, when you defend crimes when they are commited by ‘chosen people’. You will have to give explanations to your God, not me.

          • K

            Romans 1:28-32New International Version (NIV)

            28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

          • jox

            UN to Israelis, 2016: “the establishment by Israel of settlements in the Palestinian territory occupied since 1967, including East Jerusalem,
            has no legal validity and constitutes a flagrant violation under
            international law and a major obstacle to the achievement of the
            two-State solution and a just, lasting and comprehensive peace”. Clear, legal and fair. God, if he existed, would support that resolution.

            Now search me a text in the Bible were God is happy to see that jews killed everybody in their ‘promised land’. That’s what your Bible means.

          • sharonsj

            You and the media never explain the history of the area. In the 1948 war, Jordan occupied both the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Jordan then expelled all the Jews. (I don’t know if the U.N. bothered with a resolution back then about ethnic cleansing since it didn’t involve Palestinians.) Those areas were retaken in the 1967 war and Jews have been moving back ever since.

            There is no two-state solution because the stated aim of Hamas, Fatah, the PLO and the Palestinian Authority is a one-state solution. Their one state is supposed to run from the Dead Sea to the Mediterranean and again calls for the expulsion of all the Jews. If you think Israel will agree to that, you are delusional.

          • FireHope

            Brilliant summary. Thank you

          • jox

            You can reinterpret the history until the romans and before; it doesn’t matter. The international community has decided that the legal borders of Israel are those of 1967. There is no further discussion about that point.

            Your point about the two estate solution is nothing but manipulation and lies. Israel NEVER wanted a two estate solution, not in the past and not now. The only President that was close to that solution was killed by the israelis themselves. You know that if Israelis accept the 67 borders, there will be peace tomorrow morning. Why they do not accept that borders? Because they want to anexionate the west bank and jerusalem. Israel doesn’t want peace, but land. It’s obvious, I know it, the international community know it, and you also know it.

          • Israel gave the palis Gaza and they are still not happy and they never will be.

          • AtomicMetroid

            American taxpayers give welfare to the lazy Israelis and they are still not happy and they never will be

          • ???

            Although I agree with you that America does give millions of dollars in welfare, aid, etc., (to many countries including those who hate us), I do not agree with you that Israelis are lazy. And since we agree that America does give “aid” why shouldn’t America give aid to our only democratic ally in the middle east?

          • jaxon64

            Jox said ” There is no further discussion about that point.” Typical leftist–just like with anthropogenic global warming–once YOU have established some invented parameters for a discussion, then everyone else has to shut up and accept your misguided guidelines.

            Jox said, ” Israel NEVER wanted a two estate solution, not in the past and not now. The only President that was close to that solution was killed by the israelis themselves.”
            Wrong again, at the 1997 Camp David accords, it was ARAFAT who rejected the 2-state solution because he would not accept the existence of Israel. Look it up–except that everything you say are just the skewed blips that are parroted by misinformed MSM anchors or agenda driven professors at Liberal U. Have you ever studied and self determined anything in your whole life?

          • jox

            It’s not me but the international community that says the settlements are illegal. Are you saying that the whole international community is leftist just because you don’t like the resolution? Don’t be childish.

            Look, don’t tell so many lies. Isaac Rabin was assasinated by the israelis themselves because he was too close to a two estate solution. It was a traitor for the violen extremist radicals. Exactly the same than Obama now.

          • Ronnie McCutcheon

            Ok, so using your own logic jox, I if the international community ruled that anyone called jox is to be executed then there should be no more discussion on the matter right, right? You are a brainwashed idiot. Arafat did indeed reject the deal. You cant just dismiss fact because it isn’t convenient for your opinion. Palastinians(actaully Jordanians) have said openly the only way to peace is the COMPLETE destruction of any Jewish state. Another FACT in the way of your opinion. Idiot.

          • jox

            Lol. Another fanatic that dismiss a legal act such a UN resolution (with the same factual power that the one that created legally the state of Israel), and call a FACT any idiocy that he can think of or he has been brainwashed with.

            Listen genius, Israel did know that to build outside of the borders of 1967 was illegal, but anyway they continued doing so. Now the international community has reminded them that it is indeed illegal. Wow, what a surprise! You can take your childish example and smoke it, or you can cry and insult if you wish. It wont change a single comma of the resolution.

          • Jerry C

            A U.N. resolution created the state of Israel? Listen child, resolutions don’t do squat. Soldiers risking their lives won that land during war. Get over it. Israel’s enemies lost and will continue to lose.

          • ???

            We all know laws do not really matter to you Luciferian Masonic Globalists and New World Order types: (winks and gives you your own secret Masonic handshake just to mess with you)

          • Jerry C

            Your “international community” against Israel is comparable to two wolves & a Lamb deciding on what to eat for lunch. Problem for you and your “international community” is the Lamb is armed; and by armed I mean the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob.

          • jox

            The international community is not against Israel and is not anti-semitic. Those are excuses from people that thinks that everything that Israel does is OK, thus everybody else is wrong. In reallity, Israel is the wolf, supported by the boss of wolves, stop pretending it is a lamb.

          • jaxon64

            Excellent post Sharon–also, lest we forget, in 1997 PM Ehud Barak offered the Palestinians their own autonomous, free-state in the West Bank, sans E. Jerusalem, and Arafat rejected the offer. The vast majority of Palestinians openly admit, they don’t want a 2-state situation, they want Israel eliminated completely.

          • me

            unreal! you actually believe the crap falling out of your mouth? The Palestinians just want to live, that’s all you fool. Your incitement to hatred and bigotry is glaringly obvious moron. You may want to pull down your stained dress a little , your making decent humans sick. You are a disgusting example of all that is wrong in this world! down with the apartheid state. Up with life, peace and love.

          • jaxon64

            How ironic–your post in its entirety is hate without an ounce of fact, reason or intelligent thought and then you finish with ” Up with life, peace and love.”
            I want nothing to do with your kind of peace and love–sounds a lot like the “religion of peace” that has peacefully committed over 25,000 acts of terror since 9/11.

          • K

            Let me try one last time. I have no respect for the U.N. It is a corrupt and evil thing.And to debate you further. We would need a common frame of reference. And we do not have one.

          • jox

            Israel was created in a resolution of the UN. I’m sure you do have respect for that one.

            We have a common frame of reference: international law, human rights and common sense.

          • palis do not have common sense

          • There is no palestinian land. Except in Texas.

          • SnodtBlossom

            There has never been a god

          • K

            Yes, and Hillary will be president. Have you ever been right about anything? Are you sure you are not jox? You have the same batting average. And you both are trolls.

          • SnodtBlossom

            i am not jox

          • LIZ THE SHIZ

            i am a jox sniffer

          • SnodtBlossom

            I’m sure you are

          • That’s not exactly true… there are THOUSANDS of them. Thor… Loki… Kali… Torngasoa… Neptune… sheesh, I could go on and on ;D

          • Robin Heiret

            anyone that believes in that invisible sky fairy has the depraved mind….it is you true believers that have been destroying humanity forever

          • balloonknot9

            Hey numbnuts, God already told the world clearly that Israel belongs to the Jews. Your world views only go back 8 years, whereas theirs goes back millenniums.

          • Chris Sky

            ya “god” already told the world? how? through a Jewish scripture, written by Jewish men? surprise!

          • jox

            Of course. A Jewish God said to jews that the land belonged to them, they wrote it in a jewish book, then they went there and killed everybody. And now they want to repeat the same trick.

          • AtomicMetroid

            haha exactly
            These religious nuts are irredeemable

          • jox

            Your racist God don’t exist and never said anything. Stop inventing things and pretending that he is on your side.

          • SnodtBlossom

            There IS NO god

          • AnotherLover

            Back to when burning bushes spoke and people turned into pillars of salt and angels air-horned cities into dust. Back when God used to allocate land and demand animal sacrifices.

            Long and short, their memory isn’t so long to convince anybody to believe their fairytales. If they want to go on believing pigs are evil and if they want to stay in Saturdays that’s fine. Shorter lines at the breakfast spots. If they want a reasonable person to join them they’re s* out of luck, and if they want the international community to support their biblical claims, then they want the entire world to believe their fairytales as well. Well, as to those ends I say: “Good luck with that.”

          • Jerry C

            At the end of the day, two books are in question. One says Israel is here to stay and the other says it won’t. Israel proves one of them right and the other wrong; you too.

          • AnotherLover

            Might makes right, huh? Compelling argument. Unprincipled and unhinged — but compelling.

          • Beth Finlay

            ONLY ALMIGHTY GOD is right….you better believe HIM… His Book and guess what…..He loves you so much that He sent His Son to die in your place so that IF you would believe in HIM you would become part of HIS FAMILY. You can laugh if you like but know this HE has the final say. Jerusalem belongs to Him and His people…the Jews…whether you like it or not. Jesus Christ IS coming back and will set up His Kingdom from Jerusalem. Whether you like it or believe it makes no difference. Read the Bible and be informed.

          • ???

            Your so called “luck” will run it’s course, and your fate will be sealed, if you put a 666 RFID implant in your right hand or forehead. 2000 years ago, the God you reject, issued a warning to the world in the Book of Revelations chapter 13 that this would happen. And now, in our day and age, the very secular human agency you venerate, the United Nations, is calling for a RFID biometric international ID, “Identification for Development (ID4D)”, for every man, woman, and child (from birth) in the world. They are saying, without such a tool it will be impossible to track all persons, money transactions, or arms.

          • disqus_vM1Ts0vZ7C

            The RFID chip is in the ‘national health care plan’ that h.clinton and barry sotero
            bamboozled on the United States.

            It is also being silently but surely pushed throughout society (to keep track of elderly patients in nursing homes), pets,
            children born in hospitals, etc.

            This is the madness that you are seeing with the loss of Clinton’s world globalization plan to control humanity.

          • Asaph

            God HAS clearly told us.You just refuse to believe His method of communication.

          • jox

            Do you really mean that the book written by some anonymous Jews several thousand years ago was actually dictated by God? Not all the other books that millions of people claim that were written by other Gods, but that one, YOURS.

            Could you please ask to your God that appear here to clarify some points of the book that YOU said was written by him?

          • Asaph

            Would you believe Him if He did?? You obviously haven’t given it more than a cursory look or you would have a better argument against it other than your monologue. Maybe like General Lew Wallace or like Lee Strobel you might have to choose another answer.

          • jox

            Of course I would believe him. Do you believe that Mohammed was inspirated by God? Why not? Why do believers find so estrange not to believe in their God, but so easy not to believe in others Gods?

            I was grown in a Catholic country in a Catholic school, and I have believed in all those magic, until I grown a bit more and read a bit more, and discovered that everything was a scam. Books written by men to control other men. I feel liberated now. I hope that everybody here reach that next step.

          • Asaph

            A fellow named James L. Johnson once wrote in a book called “Code Name Sebastian ” a line that has stayed in my mind since the early 70’s: “Sometimes the greatest demonstration of something existing is in the action of people who claim the disc

          • jox

            You don’t answer my questions.

            Christians have also a terrible history. And Jews don’t need to blow anything, they have F18 and tanks that they can shot without punishment. The Gods of the three religions are full of love.

          • Asaph

            My apologies; you are correct that I did not answer your questions. First is whether or not I believe Mohammed was inspired of God. If you mean the Creator, then no I don’t. Second is for 2 reasons; first, there is no internaI consistency in his writings and his supposed sayings; his insights seem to come on an ad hoc basis. And his known life was a less than stellar performance.

          • disqus_vM1Ts0vZ7C

            Jox needs to think about the possibility this pedophile Mo Ham
            med was smoking hashish in his little den cave,
            and hallucinated

          • AnotherLover

            Didn’t the Christians set fire to Rome in one of the worst and earliest terror attacks in history?

          • disqus_vM1Ts0vZ7C

            Jox needs to think about the possibility this pedophile Mo Ham
            med was smoking hashish in his little den cave,
            and hallucinated.

            Demonic activity. No other witnesses.

            Jesus Christ: narrative supported by eyewitnesses, including a doctor,
            and people that saw Him crucified.

          • Prove it isnt.

          • AnotherLover

            The moment I see someone turned into a pillar of salt I’ll start believing. If I see someone take out an entire army with a donkey jaw bone I might just round the corner. If my goat sacrifice brings in a bounteous harvest — well, I would still think it was just plain luck, actually (I think the trick is to bury the goat in the garden so it turns into rich compost.)

            But in the meantime, I hope you know the truth in your heart of hearts — God is a flying bowl of spaghetti.

            Prove it isn’t.

          • You havent proven anything

          • AnotherLover

            No, I haven’t. I’ve demonstrated something. Your logic is the same as mine. I can’t disprove your fairytale but you can’t disprove the shining glorious truth of the supreme bowl of pasta.

          • God is real.
            Ask him.

          • Gay Veteran

            why does “god” never answer the prayers of amputees?

          • Maybe b/c you have a terrible attitude.

          • Gay Veteran

            no answer, that’s what I thought

          • russ

            I would siggest you read the book IN GOD WE TRUST, BUT WHICH ONE by Judith Hayes it might enliten you.

          • Jerry C

            “And Abraham said unto him, ‘If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rose from the dead.’”

          • disqus_vM1Ts0vZ7C

            “And the Lord said unto Moses,
            Come up to me into the mount,
            and be there: and I will give thee
            tables of stone, and a law, and
            commandments which I have written;

            that thou mayest teach them.”
            Exodus 24: 12

          • jox

            ok, it’s the book itself that proclaims it is dictated by God. That’s the ultimate proof. How could you possibly not to believe on that book.

          • Jerry C

            Every letter from Aleph to Tav has a mathematical value using different forms called Gematria. In addition to prophetic truth, mathematics prove all books of the Canonized Bible to be inspired by the same source. Mathematics is the universal language. The world around us and the rest of the universe is a testament to His Creative powers so that no one is with excuse not to believe. So, the real question is why do you choose not to believe the truth.

          • watchmannonthewall

            Actually, it will! Revelation 19:11-21 speaking of Revelation 16:13-21. Found in numerous places in the Old Testament but one is Isaiah 27:12-13 which speaks of a cleansing of “the Land” from the north, beginning at the Euphrates River, and moving southward to Egypt.
            “Study to show thyself approved unto God [Elohim- the Judge/Creator], a workman that needs not to be ashamed, as one who rightly divides the Word of Truth.” (2 Tim. 2:15)

        • AnotherLover

          Seriously! Are these people crazy??? God might show up again and blast another entire city into dust. You’re supposed to fear that kind of psychopathy, right? I mean, duh.

        • none

          Can’t God just curse Obama. Like he did Job?
          Then Trump can threaten the UN. By cutting off it’s funding?
          Then God will Bless Trump, along with U.S.?

      • dghealy

        you must be a real whip on the concept of the Caliphate.

        • jox

          Muslims are more radical fanatics than Jews, and those more than Christians. None of their Gods exist and none of their books are true, but all of them claim to be the chosen ones. They can kill, torture and conquer in the name of their God. And they even feel that are more moral than the rest.

      • retired22

        Listen Strap,..Your.inferiority complex is only surpassed by your stupidity!
        You must have an I.Q. 10 or 15 points below your blood temperature.
        This vote is nonenforceable & only hurts the Democrats by association with Obama who looks like a weasel for his part in this business.
        It also sticks a knife in the back of the Left in Israel which is good for the government there.
        & finally it has started a movement that might end with the USA leaving this organization!
        I have a dog that is smarter then you!

      • jaxon64

        You are not too sharp jox are you? You do know that 75% of Palestinians don’t want a 2-state solution either? All they really want is that Hamas have a more strategic foothold on the western bank of the Jordan River and freedom to import weapons from their fellow Shia. Once Iran moves some big guns and weaponry into the West Bank, then a land invasion is easier and neutralizes Israel’s superior Air Force and missile systems.
        Unless you already know this and would just like to see Israel attacked, nuclear war and the “death to all Jews” that your type always harbor in their hearts.
        THIS is the inevitability now–all out war !! Get it through your head…Tiny Israel will now be forced to use every option they have to survive, Fools one and all…

        • jox

          Insults and lies, typical from a extreme right fanatic. You know that the worst aggresors always clain to be the subject of an aggresion. But they are only lies.

          • jaxon64

            Typical liberal response–counter facts with name-calling…yawn

          • jox

            Typical extremist response: you can call me what you want, but if I do is name-calling, yeah. You say facts? Prove that 75% of Palestinians are agains the two-state solution. Don’t be delusional, your paranoid dreams are not facts.

            Here you have a fact. Resolution 2334 of the UN: “the establishment by Israel of settlements in the Palestinian territory occupied since 1967, including East Jerusalem, has no legal validity and constitutes a flagrant violation under
            international law and a major obstacle to the achievement of the
            two-State solution and a just, lasting and comprehensive peace;”

      • Happyness2u2

        And remember, this year, the Obama administration opened up Iraq and Cuba to us again – they’ve hated us since the 70s – why oh why!!??

        • Gay Veteran

          gee, wonder why they hate us???
          can’t figure it out

      • mcavinee

        Oh please what nonsense

    • Rick

      Good comments. I happen to believe our country’s curse will be much worse than what you describe. The greatest country over the last 200+ years is not even mentioned, or given one breath in the book of Revelation.

      • K

        You may be correct. But consider this. What is worse than a people constantly at each others throat? To such a point they destroy their Country from within.

        • Rick

          I agree, but that ship has sailed. We’ve already been infiltrated by commies and Muslims who hold high positions in our government and its agencies. And who want to destroy us in any way they can. We have no choice other than separating from them, and defending against them. They are the enemy to us just as the red Coats were to our defending fathers, and the Nazis were to the Allies. Just got to see them for what they are.

          • K


      • SnodtBlossom

        There is no god

  • Cal

    From 1948-1967 Gaza and the West Bank including East Jerusalem were under Arab control, Egypt and Jordan respectively. I heard no call for a Palestinian State until Israel took control of these areas in the six day war. The mantra for a Palestinian state has been with us for almost 50 years. My point is why didn’t Egypt and Jordan give these areas to the Palestinians? The transition could have been done bloodlessly and they had 19 years to do it. Another question, what exactly is a Palestinian? Yasser Arafat, the titular head of the PLO for decades was an Egyptian. Are Palestinians descendants of the biblical Philistines? Just wondering.

    • the 6 day war was a act of aggression and a war crime no different than Iraq invading Kuwait.

      • Jerry C

        I guess you believe Israel should have just let themselves be murdered with the building up of Egyptian & Jordanian troops for a coming purge?

        • they made their own bed by continually stealing land and bulldozing homes and protestors ……….

    • jox

      International community admits the 67 borders as the actual borders of Israel. Do you know that it is the ONLY country in the world that does not define their borders precisely? Why is that? Because they want to get it all.

    • Jackson445

      They are called Palestinians because prior to Israel’s creation (2nd time after WWII) the maps had the word Palestine written in that geographical area. It means nothing more than a way to label the people that lived in that area before Israel was created. Palestinians could be Christian, Muslim, even Jewish or atheists or any other thing you can dream up.

      You should research how Israel treated Jews from northern Africa that migrated to Israel. They did not get a warm welcome like the fair skinned European Jews to say the least.

    • Jerry C

      Yes. Yes they are. The same group has been squatting on Yahwah’s land since Goliath & the giants tried to prevent His people from taking possession.

  • Jack Frost

    Jews have been MAJOR backers of social unrest in America by providing financial support for the racial grievance industry for decades. Hopefully they will reap similar bitter harvests from the fruits of their endeavors until they cry out.

    • dghealy

      is that really what you want? bitter harvests until they cry out. ? would that float you boat?

    • Rick

      I think you might be confusing American Jews with God’s chosen people. America wasn’t established in 3000BC. The people here in our country may or may not be true Jews and saved by God’s grace.

      • jaxon64

        Agreed Rick, I am always amazed at how so many people can’t seem to grasp the concept that Israelis are about as far apart from the “hated bankers and corporate American jews” as an American of German ancestry is separate from Angela Merkel and her policies.
        Most American Jews could give a flip about Israel or their ancestral homeland. Manhattan and Hollywood are their homelands on this side of the world.

        • Rick

          Right on. Very true!

    • disqus_vM1Ts0vZ7C

      It would be a good idea to differentiate between “the Jews”
      that crucified Christ, and those that did not.

      Matthew 27: 12 “Then answered all the people, and said,
      His blood be on us, and on our children.”

      In the end, there will be NO difference between “the Jews”
      that crucified Christ and billions of other nationalities
      and races that deny He only is the way to salvation.

      It is wrong to hate “the Jews.”

  • jox

    “Today, more than half a million Israelis live in East Jerusalem and
    the 137 settlements that are scattered throughout the West Bank. Where are they all supposed to go?” It is the problem of Israel’s Government. They did know perfectly well that the land was not theirs and that those buildings were illegal. Put the blame were it belongs.

    “those that bless Israel will be blessed, and those that curse Israel will be cursed”. Religious fanatism is not the way to handle international relationships. Perhaps your God is racist enaugh to prefer a certain people among others. International law is not.

  • Sun Rise

    Zechariah 14.

  • James Staten

    I understand. Blessings, James

  • michael

    Priya, you are much wiser than God, I commend you. You will not be cursed, great!!!

  • Pam

    These are perilous times my friends. I hope Trump can reverse this even if it means not funding the UN anymore, basically disbanding it. Netanyahu needs to know that we will be behind them no matter what.

  • Pam

    The Israelis are Gods chosen people.

    • Jackson445

      and God kicked them out of Israel

      • JC Teecher

        Temporarily, until he gathers the two sticks, House of Israel and House of Judah, back together. Think spiritual.

      • Jerry C

        I’d kick my kids out of my house if they didn’t follow my rules. Even though my kids are out, it’s still my house.

  • Chris Sky

    Imagine that… giving the land to the people it actually belongs to instead of simpy giving it to Israel because they say “our holy book, written by US says we are “entitled” to the land.”

  • thegeorgespyman

    Somehow the great test on this Eden is to find the wherewithal to live in harmony. It can and must be done. To entrench ourselves in conflict means a slow march to Armageddon, but a stalwart one. I never thought there could be peace in Northern Ireland because the sides were so committed to hate, but that was a great accomplishment in my lifetime. This would be another. America, too, once waged a great war against itself. It is a long ago memory mostly forgotten. We found the way again to live together even though there was a victor and and a vanquished. We all must find that way sooner or later. It is better it be sooner.

    Neighbor cartoon.

  • DJohn1

    What is in a name? Is not a rose still a rose by any other name?
    You will know them by the fruits of their labors.
    So what name fits? Obama has just betrayed his oath of office and his representation of the people of this country. That is the fruit of his labor.
    People hide behind appearance. Then they say, well these people are prejudiced against me because of my appearance.
    Actions speak louder than words. Actions betray the trust of the very people that he comes from. Who ultimately lost if all of this does not work?
    The Palestine people of both faiths stand to lose big time. The money control of the UN stands to be exposed. So the UN itself lost their name as a fair organization to a lot of people. That will lead to the possible loss of the organization as a financial entity unless a whole lot of these people voting on the divided state cough up an enormous amount of money that they do not have.
    And those actions now point towards someone in our high office.
    Mr. Obama is trying his best to leave a legacy of his works over the last 8 years. And what is frustrating is that work is not good for the American People.
    Donald Trump is walking into this mess that Mr. Obama has created and it is quite a mess on all fronts.
    So what name fits Mr. Obama right now?
    It certainly is not the one that he currently visualizes himself having.
    Both sides of our political situation ignore facts that are not convenient.
    The main reason that someone like Donald Trump will now lead this country is the actions of the man in High Office over the last few years.
    This is definitely a reaction to those actions and the name this man has acquired by those actions.

    • Jackson445

      All Obama did was not protect Israel with it’s veto power.
      Why was the vote unanimous? Every country of the world is against Israel? Israel should be able to stand on it’s own merit and positions with out the need for veto protection. They could not even persuade 1 country of it’s position.

  • rentslave

    I’ve got no problem whatsoever with Israel as sports betting is legal there.Why won’t the Jews in Las Vegas let the people of NJ bet sports here?

  • GSOB

    Upon what basis can one say that while Jesus in Matthew 24 cited Zechariah 12 as to be fulfilled at his return in Jerusalem’s fall, that in Revelation, although it emphatically tells us it would shortly come to pass (l:l-3) it has not yet been fulfilled?

    • Guest

      Not fulfilled.

      • JC Teecher

        Rev 12:4
        And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.


        John describing the Laodicean Church and linking it symbolically with the church of the last days, as in this last generation. While also describing the previous church ages


        Not much else to pick and choose from as being FULFILLED, in the book of Revelation.
        Certainly not the return of Satan, playing the role of the Messiah returned. Has not ever happened since this Age began.
        Certainly not the True Messiah returned to fulfill the role of KIng of Kings and Lord of Lords, and to rule and reign for 1000 years, with a Rod of Iron. Has not ever happened.

        GSOB must be a Mormon, of which in their beliefs when they die a physical death, they are then given a Universe to rule and reign over as God.
        You gsob are a little trigger happy with that, “you playing god thing”.
        Reincarnate as god….lol,lol, lol.

  • merrileerj

    God have mercy on us I pray. My prayers go up to God also for those posting here who think it is all a joke & Jesus is a joke. We are close to the End Times dear hearts. Well this is the end times, I mean the actual end.

    • jox

      I don’t think that God & Jesus are a joke. They are a tool to subjugate and control people. Some people are more weak than others and need to believe in magic and spirits.

      We are not close to end times, don’t worry. Christians are 2000 years telling that. There will be wars, crises, suffering, as there is always in the history of men. No related with the several nonexistent Gods.

      • Jerry C

        Normalcy Bias. “Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.”

    • billtheguy

      I agree, the Jews are his chosen people. Even though they had him crucified. A lot of people cannot understand this. With Obama doing what he did, we are going to have tribulations here in the USA.

      • JC Teecher

        The so-called jews that had him crucified, were those that were influenced by the “fake” Jews, that had mostly infiltrated the Synagogues, as scribes and some even as priests.

        They were described by Christ as being of the Synagogue of Satan, which is primarily the Kenite race of hybrids, from Cain, and Satan.

        They are still here and have bred into all the races of peoples. They have the inner desire to please Satan, instead of Christ and the one True God, of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

        In time, all will see and understand why things are the way they are. True Christians have nothing to worry about, but the fakes, and the ones that distort the true meaning of the Word…well, it will be a rough road ahead as prophecy comes to light, and the revealing begins.

        No escape through a pre-trib rapture, so the followers of the fakes, and ignorant, will be stunned and surprised when Satan comes in his “circular vehicle”, spoken of in Ezekiel, with his 7000 fallen angels, and makes the grand entrance.

        The pre-tribbers will get on a big spiritual ego trip, as they are convinced it is the true Messiah, come to whisk them away, in the “great snatching up”.

        ain’t gonna happen!

        • disqus_vM1Ts0vZ7C

          The pre-tribbers are already on a big spiritual ego trip: most of them seem to hold to ‘replacement theology’, that God
          has replaced the Israelites with themselves.
          Which, of course, is untrue.

          It would appear the great falling away, spoken of in 2 Thessalonians 2: 3,
          is referring to these pre-tribbers who are
          deceived: and will fall away when they
          discover there is no rapture before the tribulation.

          • JC Teecher

            Amen to the falling, as when they know they have been duped, they pray for the mountains to fall on them, as well.

  • GSOB

    The N.T. writers tell us that a RETURN to the Mosaic Economy
    (the OLD covenant system)
    would be to apostatize from Christ
    and to INVALIDATE
    the cross of

    • Sun Rise

      They said no such thing. I suggest that you please read 2 Timothy 3:16-17. Please also read the account of the Bereans. Sir, would you please kindly identify which Scriptures these bible verses refer to, and which Scriptures the Bereans checked and found that the apostles taught confirmed and affirmed them?

      It is in trying to obtain salvation through obedience to the Torah that is the issue, not obedience itself. Yeshua and the apostles ALL taught obedience to Torah. I submit to you a suggestion that you go through the Renewed Covenant with a book and writing instrument, and write down all the scripture pointing to the TANACH that you find, especially the Torah.

      I would also strongly suggest reading Psalms 19 and 119.

  • JM

    Zechariah 2 was fulfilled at the time of the birth and life and death and resurrection and ascension of Jesus Christ (His first appearing on earth.). Jesus Christ now lives in the hearts, minds, and souls of His followers (He is in the midst of them) forevermore. Matthew 18:20, Luke 17:21

    We should not think that apocalyptic literature has a literal meaning because it is literature that has a spiritual meaning.

    Zechariah 12 is also apocalyptic literature. Apocalyptic literature is not necessarily written in chronological order. Apocalyptic literature does sometimes state one spiritual concept in different ways.

    The sabbath was for the Israelites under the first covenant and for the converts to Judaism under the first covenant. Exodus 16:29 The sabbath was never required of the Gentiles/Greeks and it is also unnecessary for people to observe the sabbath under Jesus Christ’s new covenant. The requirements regarding the first covenant which were also included in the new covenant are listed in Acts 15, especially Acts 15:1-20.

    The sabbath is not required of the Greeks/Gentiles under Jesus Christ’s new covenant. It was only the Jews, the converts to Judaism, and the persons studying to convert to Judaism who were the people who had listened to Moses read in the synagogues from EARLY generations and it was only these people who were under the first covenant.

    The sad thing about all of this mess in Israel is that the Jews who practice Judaism to this very day do still reject their Messiah Jesus Christ. They vainly try to observe the first covenant even though it is no longer in force. It was made obsolete by Jesus Christ’s new and better covenant. Hebrews 8:6-13,

    • JC Teecher

      Don’t succumb to the teachings of the haughty, for it will lead you into confusion and cursings.

      Revelation, tribulation and the last two trumps have not happened. Satan as Antichrist has not been booted out of Heaven, to the Earth, with the blowing of the trump of the sixth Angel.

      It is soon coming, as well as the Two Witnesses of God, standing in sackcloth, in the streets of Jerusalem, preaching truth, to be killed by Antichrist, and to lie there for three and one half days, before rising and ascending.
      Just prior to the true Messiah returns to send Satan/Antichrist into the “pit” of the earth for about a thousand years.

      To teach that all this has already happened is an abomination unto God.

      • JM

        Satan has already been booted out of heaven. Jesus told us this. Satan was booted out of heaven before Adam and Eve were created. The Book of Revelation told of past events, events which were to occur soon, and about the events to happen at the end of time when Jesus returns to earth for His second appearing to judge the nations at the white throne judgment/sheep and goats judgment/last judgment.

        Past history:
        Luke 10:18

        And he said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. rsv

        The “thousand years” is a symbolic term depicting the long time period between the first bodily coming of Jesus Christ to earth and His second bodily coming to earth at the end of time. Jesus will return once more to judge the spiritually living and the spiritually dead at the white throne judgment/last judgment/sheep and goats judgment.

        Jesus’ kingdom is a spiritual kingdom. The first resurrection of the saints happened 2000 years ago. It is described in Matthew 27:50-54. It is the resurrection of these saints which began the “thousand year” reign. Like I wrote before, apocalyptic literature has a spiritual meaning.

        Most of the Book of Revelation was fulfilled by the destruction of Jerusalem, its temple, and its people in 70 A.D.

        Daniel 12:4-9 was fulfilled by the end of 70 A.D
        Matthew 24:15 speaks of this prophecy of Daniel and it was fulfilled by the end of 70 A.D..
        The Book of Revelation also speaks of the fulfillment of the prophecy of Daniel, and his prophecy was fulfilled by the end of 70 A.D.

        There will be a war going on between good and evil until Jesus returns for His second/’last time. There will be many antichrists until the end of time. Jesus will destroy the last one by His second coming.

        2 Thessalonians 2:8

        And then the lawless one will be revealed, and the Lord Jesus will slay him with the breath of his mouth and destroy him by his appearing and his coming. rsv

        Jesus appears only once more on earth in the flesh. Hebrews 9:28

        His followers will then meet Him in the air and accompany Him to the white throne judgment.

        1 Thessalonians 4:16-18
        1 Corinthians 15:51-54

        Jesus does not ever return to earth to bodily rule in Israel in Jerusalem for a literal one thousand years. Jesus’ kingdom is a spiritual kingdom.

        • JC Teecher

          Satan wasn’t booted out before, and was given free roam to go “to and fro upon the earth”, until he was blocked and chained, by Christ after he tried to tempt Christ, and was ordered, “get behind Me”; until he will be booted out by Michael, at the Sixth Trump.

          All will see this come to pass in the future.

          • socalbeachdude


        • JC Teecher

          There is a literal Kingdom to come.

          John was not raptured, but taken to the period called the Tribulation, in an out of body experience, to witness the events, so he could write about what was forth coming.

          He was returned unto his flesh body, to record the “future” events as he saw them, so he could reveal them to the last days generation, through his writings.

          Too bad you can’t rightly divide the Word, and see the truth, but; have no fear, for one day you will see truth.

          • JM

            Yes, there is a literal kingdom to come when all of God’s people will partake of the marriage supper of the Lamb. This takes place after Jesus’ second appearing/coming to earth and after the final judgment.

            The great tribulation that was foreseen by John was fulfilled within a few years. Revelation 1:1 It was also the fulfillment of Daniel. Jesus said that Daniel was about to be fulfilled. It was. The destruction of Jerusalem (Whore of Babylon), its temple, and its people in 70 A.D. was the fulfillment of Daniel.

            John was told to: “Rise and measure the temple of God and the altar and those who worship there, 2 but
            do not measure the court outside the temple; leave that out, for it is
            given over to the nations, and they will trample over the holy city for
            forty-two months. 3 And I will grant my two witnesses power to prophesy for one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth.” Revelation 1:1 This temple was destroyed in 70 A.D. It took the Roman armies (comprised of men from many nations throughout the Roman Empire) exactly 3 1/2 years (42 months) to destroy Jerusalem, its temple, and all the people in the city. Luke 21:20, Matthew 24:15 The Roman armies were the sacrilege. They began to camp around the holy city of Jerusalem and that is when the Christians fled from Jerusalem. The two witnesses were the Law and the Prophets. Luke 24:44 The Jews rejected their Messiah. It is He who had been prophesied by the Law and the Prophets.

          • JC Teecher

            I don’t care for the way you and your compadre twist the Word, to fit your narrative of why Revelation has been fulfilled; and, I seriously doubt that the Owner of the Word, cares much for your twisting of His prophecy, as well.

            You and all those that pontificate this false doctrine will be amazed and stunned, when you see all these literal events taking place.

            BTW, the Kingdom comes at the beginning of the 1000 year reign, with the entrance of the King of Kings, and Lord of Lords. All the “true” Christians found in the Book of Life, will be “changed” (when everyone else is, at the twinkling of an eye), however; we will be also taking part in the “first resurrection”, which means not only will we have an incorruptible body (spirit), but also, an incorruptible soul.

            At the end of the Millennial Reign, at the Great White throne Judgment, when the Full God Head returns, with His Throne, we will then be given our rewards, and forever be with the Kingdom, that is then complete.

            I hope I am afforded the opportunity to see your faces, when there are two witness, literally standing and preaching in the streets of Jerusalem, just prior to Christ’s return, and when the Locust Army kills them, and they lie dead for three and one half days.
            At Christ’s return, just after the witnesses rise from the dead, 7000 of the Fallen Evil Angels, fall dead in Jerusalem, and never to be again.

            How you pukes say all this has already happened….is just ridiculous.

          • JM

            We disagree on the interpretations of prophecies in the Scriptures. Simple fact.

            Your condescension and chastising and verbal abuse of people who do not share your own personal interpretations of the Scriptures is truly another simple (but sad) fact.

            The spiritual earthly kingdom of God is already here. It’s been here for about 2000 years. The fulfillment of Jesus’ heavenly kingdom will be when He returns for His second appearing in order to judge all people at the white throne judgment. He will not ever be bodily reigning in Jerusalem in Israel for 1000 years.

            Luke 17:19-20
            Being asked
            by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God was coming, he answered them,
            “The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed; 21 nor will they say, ‘Lo, here it is!’ or ‘There!’ for behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you.”

            Matthew 3:2
            “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” rsv

            Luke 16:16
            The law and the prophets were until John; since then the good news of the kingdom of God is preached, and every one enters it violently. rsv

            John 18:36
            Jesus answered, “My kingship is not of this world; if my kingship were of this world, my servants would fight, that I might not be handed over to the Jews; but my kingship is not from the world.” rsv

            I have nothing more to add to this discussion with you so if you reply, I will not be reading it. 🙂

          • JC Teecher

            Thanks for your honesty, and obvious ignorance of scripture.

            In order to not be tempted to engage with a fool again, I have put you and g-man, obi wan kenobi, on block.
            You two have a good trip with that false teaching.

  • GSOB

    Is modern Israel under Messiah going to return to bloody ANIMAL SACRIFICES
    (the NT says that would be nothing short of “blasphemous”
    – (study the Book of Hebrews)

  • GSOB

    The battle described in these chapters is waged on HORSEBACK (Zechariah 12:4) with SWORDS! (Zechariah 13:7)

    Is that how the COMING 21st century Great Tribulation is to be fought?

    • James Staten

      GSOB…Let us imagine for a moment. What if when this 200M army comes marching into the middle east after it crosses the Euphrates River upon dry ground is funneled by the Lord into the valleys of Israel? There upon the Lord unleashes if my understanding is correct 100 lb hailstones. The Scripture declares that the blood will be up to the bridle of horses and it will flow and span literally the length of Israel. I can see that. As the slush melts it would be a river of blood flowing the length of Israel. Will it happen that way, perhaps?

      • socalbeachdude

        Let us imagine PEACE returning to Jerusalem once it becomes fully a part of Palestine. It was originally the City of Peace but has been involved in endless wars inspired by the 3 “gods” of the religions there over many centuries and millennia.

        • James Staten

          Yep, It will happen when the Prince of Peace sits on the Throne in Jerusalem and reigns over all the earth for 1,000 years!! Even So Come Lord Jesus

          • GSOB

            That’s happening now.

          • James Staten

            the Jews will glad to hear that!!!! (Short Version)

          • JC Teecher

            According to obi wan kenobi..aka gsob, there is not gonna be a millennial reign/Kingdom, because it has already happened.

            That is some messed up ideology, when all that the scripture points to is the “Kingdom to come”.

            Mat 6:10
            “Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.”

            Christ’s return marks the end of the “flesh” age, and the rule of the flesh world by Satan. Not the end of the world in general, just the age. The earth will become the setting for the Kingdom of eternity, after the 1000 year rule and reign, and then the releasing of Satan for a season, and then the return of Jehovah and His Throne.
            Then the final Great White Throne Judgment, and the casting of Satan and all evil into the Lake of Fire to perish, forever.

            But, I guess gsob knows more than God, so this scripture by Matthew has to be wrong as well…sarc off.

          • James Staten

            JC…we would probably differ on a few things, but it appears we as far as the timeline goes, we are on a same page from an eschatology point of view, but you are correct about gsob…Keep Looking Up, James

      • JC Teecher

        How is the blood running up to the horses bridles?
        It is very simple if rightly dividing of the Word, and given clarity by the Holy spirit.

        Upon the entrance of the One True Messiah, at the Seventh/Last Trump; all will be changed into Spirit bodies, including the animals.

        Where the horses fall, in the Valley, the blood runs like a stream down the valley, and the horses bones, with skin and structure of the body intact, with all the bridles and saddles attached.
        So…from all the blood leaving the bodies of all the 200M, and their horses, that have “changed”, it will be a literal flowing…up to those bridles laying on the ground, still attached to the horses bone structure heads.

        No three to four foot high river of blood, but a literal flowing of inches, of which it touches the bridles.

        It will happen, and it will not be because of a “nuclear event” as some ignorant of the Word, teach.
        Zec 14:12
        And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

        • Gay Veteran

          blood leaving the bodies of all the 200M?
          ROFLOL, what army on Earth still uses massive number of horses?

      • GSOB


        • James Staten

          Well maybe Milton Terry can help? lol

  • GSOB

    Zech 13:1 is clearly speaking of
    “The Cross of Christ” (a first century event).

    Has there been no Messianic “fountain” of forgiveness available to the Jewish people since the cross?

    • James Staten

      The answer is, It’s called the dispensation of grace..revealed to the Apostle Paul from the Risen Savior in glory, a mystery available to everyone during this time period (1st Corinthians 15:1-4). Jews, Gentiles and this New Creation the Body of Christ composed of Jews and Gentiles are mentioned in 1st Corinthians 10:32…….. Short Version

      • JC Teecher

        Those that call the Caucasians of the World, especially Christian ones; “Gentiles”, do so in error.

        Gentile is reference to all races not of Adamic/Hebrew/Israelite blood linage.
        It can sometimes be translated, as in the case of the Mohammedans, as to “heathens”,
        What are heathen? All who do not follow the belief and teachings of Jesus Christ, Saviour, Messiah, and as the Son of God.

        • James Staten

          JC..we perhaps can agree to disagree? If you are not a Jew, then you are a Gentile. My point is that during this dispensation of grace…there are Three Groups of people. Jews, Gentiles and a New Creation composed of Jews and Gentiles..the Body of Christ.

          • JC Teecher

            If you are not Adamic/Israelite (which includes jews) you are Gentile.

            If you are a believer in Christ, by the blood and the Cross, and not Adamic/Caucasian, then you are considered to be “grafted in”.

            Otherwise you are Gentile.

          • James Staten

            JC..I believe in the Church which is His Body. Paul literally wrote half the NT, and one of the mysteries revealed to him only was the Body of Christ. A New Creation.

          • socalbeachdude

            And what do those silly useless labels have to do with anything? The Israel’s are not Semitic at all, which is just another silly and useless label.

          • JC Teecher

            Where did you find that in the Word?

          • James Staten

            1st Corinthians 10:32 ….. In the Book of Ephesians it describes this One New Man. Please read Paul, all through out his writings he reveals this New Creation, a mystery given to him composed of Jews and Gentiles during this dispensation of grace

          • JC Teecher

            No I understand that part, but I want to know where you find that Gentiles are all those that are not Jews.

          • James Staten

            JC…I am not exactly sure how to answer you. In this world you are either one or the other? I will let Paul speak for me, again during dispensation the Lord is making a New Creation. 1st Corinthians 10:32. Paul addresses three groups. If you want to get into sub-groups, have at it? Such as the woman at the well…etc.

          • JC Teecher

            How many caucasians (descendants of the tribes of Israel) do you see “trodding down” the land of the Temple Mount, and trying to take it over?


          • James Staten

            OK, JC…the Lord knows!!!!

          • JC Teecher


          • Sun Rise

            Actually, if a person is grafted in, they are no longer Gentile, but an Israelite, as in a citizen of Israel. Not talking about the current political and worldly one, but the one when Messiah is building from a remnant of every nation and faith.

          • James Staten

            Paul, who wrote half the NT addresses this New Creation as the Body of Christ

          • Sun Rise

            That is correct, the one new man. That Body of Christ is also described as a Bride, a Holy Temple, and a set-apart nation, the nation of Israel. Ephesians 2, 3, Romans 9 – 11.

          • JC Teecher

            That is right, as referred to as the bride of Christ.

        • GSOB


          • JC Teecher

            You will not be laughing when you are on your knees.

      • GSOB

        It’s good you knew the answer

        • James Staten

          Blessings, GSOB

  • Cinderella Man

    Sooo dramatic…. Nope not gonna happen

  • Dave of OK

    While acknowledging that one does not want to be on the wrong side of history when it comes to bible history, we Christians must also understand that these blessings and cursing are Old Testament Covenant law. The Jews have broken the covenant in not accepting THEIR messiah when he came. John the Evangelists called them the “Synagogue of Satan.” It is not for us Christians to support this fiasco called the state of “Israel” with donations for its existence or help in building their temple. A temple which God will not allow to be rebuilt. It has been tried through history but always ended in failure. Jesus Christ is the new Israel and the New Temple. This abortion called Israel is the creation of the same people who brought you the New World Order and will be use by them to bring about their world order.

    • MEP325

      Agree 100% too many Christians are blinded by false teachers like John Hagee.

      • disqus_vM1Ts0vZ7C

        There is no Biblical scripture
        that supports Nelson Darby’s invention
        of “the rapture”.

        • MEP325

          You are correct. False teachers like Hagee who push that doctrine are deceiving their flock. I wonder how many Christians will flounder when the tribulation comes and they are still here.

    • JC Teecher

      Agreed. The Temple that is spoken of, for the latter days, is the Millennial Temple. A 1000 year reign, of which Christ will rule and reign, with a rod of iron, without the influence of Satan…until the very end of that period, where Satan will be released for a season/short period to ‘test and try” the hearts of those that will be converted during that 1000 year period, of which all will be in spirit bodies, and not under the influence of the flesh..nor the spirit of Satan.

      Any that don’t make it with all the evil elements/rudiments removed, (except Satan when he is unchained/returned, for that testing); will be on a fast track for the Lake of Fire, along with Satan.
      All Satan’s 7000 un-holy fallen angels will die in Jerusalem, in the Day the Lord returns to set up that Kingdom, at the beginning of the Millennia.

      It is written.

      • Dave of OK

        Sorry, not a Millennialist. I used to be one myself, but the whole idea of a millennium throws new covenant theology into fits, It would never work, Even if JC is running things, humans have shown themselves unable to follow the law. Jesus would have to stamp out most of rebellious mankind and twenty years later He would have to do it again. Even Christians make lousy law keepers. Next after the great tribulation is Judgment Day and then the New Heavens and New Earth. We will see what happens when Jesus comes, but I seriously doubt that it will be a thousand years of mortal humans on the earth, but resurrected saved people in their new immortal and imperishable bodies. We will see, we will see.

        • JC Teecher

          I see where you are making the same mistake that most people make about the return of Christ. When He returns, at the Last Trump/the Seventh…….

          1Co 15:52
          In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

          This is the so-called rapture, but it is not a fly-away event, because Christ is coming here to rule and reign with a rod of iron…of correction.

          Ezekiel chapter 40 to the end documents the Millennial Kingdom.

          Rev 20:6
          Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
          Rev 20:7
          And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

          Anyone that cannot read these scriptures and realize the truth in God’s letter, that there will be no more mortal “flesh” man after Christ returns, but only a mortal soul, for those that missed the first resurrection/immortality of the soul and the spirit body.

          Only those that did not have a chance to receive salvation during their flesh lives will be offered an opportunity during the thousand years of teaching, called the Millennium.

          I am not a so-called “millennialist”, but a follower of Truth in the Word, and this is what is taught by the Word.

          Everyone has freewill to pick and choose what they desire to align
          with and follow.
          I choose Truth from the Word and to follow Christ, not some man’s doctrine.

    • Sun Rise

      Romans 11.

    • Petestan

      If you will check the scriptures the blessing/cursing promise was given to Abraham not to Israel. I am blessed because as a Christian I’m a son of Abraham (spiritual heir to the “father of faith”) not because I blindly endorse Israel. Salvation is through Jesus Christ and his shed blood — not through a religious superstition which has more than a tinge of racism to it.

    • disqus_vM1Ts0vZ7C

      The Third Temple will be rebuilt.
      The Hologram that will be installed is “the image of the beast”

      “And deceiveth them that dwell on earth
      by the means of those miracles
      which he had power to do
      in the sight of the beast:

      saying to them that dwell on earth,
      that they should make an image
      to the beast, which the wound
      by a sword, and did live.

      And he had power to give life unto the image
      of the beast, that the image of the beast
      should both speak, and cause that as many
      as would not worship
      the image of the beast
      should be killed.”
      Revelations 13: 14 & 15

  • Asaph

    This is the time to expect God to make a distinction between those that serve Him and those that don’t. Abraham asked God to spare Sodom if 10 could be found. I think in Amos God allowed rain to fall on one field while drought destroyed others next door. We are at the 2Chronicles 7 time in North America. It really is time for the Church to straighten up and fly right.

  • old fart

    The moral to this story is be dammed careful on who you vote into office, Most of the American Sheep have no idea of who or what they vote for even if they vote , So the results are foretold,

  • TrueGrit

    Do you mean that because of the actions of a deamon evil president That I didn’t vote for, Me and my country are Cursed?
    Please tell me that Our Father in Heaven will not judge us so too harshly for the actions of this Traitor.

    • iris

      Our country will suffer, already has been, for duplicity towards Israel and other things, like elective abortion, sexual abuses, drug abuse, the list goes on, but even if individuals living in an evil country have to suffer because of living there when it is judged, that individual who did not participate willingly in the sin/s will be blessed for righteousness and ultimately delivered from the evil. God looks at each person’s heart in the present tense. If one repents of evil, they may face consequences from their past, but their sins are forgiven if they trust in Christ, and they are seen as righteous, spiritually. I also believe God may hide or protect some people, although other innocent people might be tortured or killed. There have been more people who have been killed for their faith in Christ in the last 3 decades, than in all of Christian history up to that point. This state of existence is very temporary, heaven and hell are eternal. God bless!

    • Jerry C

      Our Father in Heaven has judged nations based upon their leaders; leaders for whom they deserved. As a whole, our nation will get what’s coming.

  • Liberty First

    Obama is a despicable, vile being.

  • socalbeachdude

    Israel accuses Barack Obama of creating and promoting UN resolution that denounced West Bank settlement operations

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has accused the Obama administration of orchestrating a UN resolution that declared Israeli settlements in the West Bank criminal.

  • socalbeachdude

    Trump, days after Israeli settlements vote, calls UN ‘sad’

  • James Staten
    • socalbeachdude

      The State of Palestine will be fully realized and will bring peace to the region very soon. It would be wonderful to see a new Trump Tower in Jerusalem.

      • James Staten

        Sure, About the same time California secedes from the Union..chuckle, chuckle

        • socalbeachdude

          California is by far the most important State in the United States with more than 10% of the population of the USA and its economy of $2.5 trillion accounts for about 14% of the US economy and certainly will not be seceding from the USA.

          • James Staten

            Everything you say may be true, but my understanding is that only Texas has a get out of jail free card, given at the time they joined the Union.

          • socalbeachdude

            No state can legally secede from the USA.

          • James Staten

            I think Texas came in with a caveat, but just like your Palestinian State, I don’t see it happening.

  • socalbeachdude

    Jerusalem’s Long and Very Troubled History

    Jerusalem is a city located on a plateau in the Judaean Mountains between the Mediterranean and the Dead Sea. One of the oldest cities in the world, Jerusalem was called “Urusalima” in the ancient cuneiform, meaning “City of Peace”, during the early Canaanite period (approximately 2400 BCE). Significant construction activity in Jerusalem began in the 9th century BCE (Iron Age II), and in the 8th century the city developed into the religious and administrative center of the Kingdom of Judah. It is considered a holy city in the three major Abrahamic religions of Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

    During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed at least twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times. The part of Jerusalem called the City of David was settled in the 4th millennium BCE. In 1538, walls were built around Jerusalem under Suleiman the Magnificent. Today those walls define the Old City, which has been traditionally divided into four quarters—known since the early 19th century as the Armenian, Christian, Jewish, and Muslim Quarters. The Old City became a World Heritage Site in 1981, and is on the List of World Heritage in Danger. Modern Jerusalem has grown far beyond the Old City’s boundaries.

  • socalbeachdude

    Israel Did Not have a Merry Christmas…Shows Displeasure…

    Israel reduces relations with 12 Security Council countries: reports

    Israel is reducing diplomatic working relationships with 12 countries on the United Nations Security Council, after the body voted to condemn Israeli settlements in Palestinian territory last week, according to reports

  • Mike Jones

    God does not need you to believe in Him to still make Him God. God is, was and always will be and those that decry Him, fight Him, curse Him and treat Him with every manner of disrespect that they can muster will discover this truth in time. God is the owner of everything your eyes can see and He will give to whomever He wants and take away from whomever He wants. Those that stand against God are standing against Him who created ALL things, them included. Consequences follow actions, words and deeds. Punishment is not instant but the consequences WILL come.

  • HeyAHuman

    It’s easy for them to make decisions that affect areas held sacred to many, and play on the narrative that it’s an ancient prophecy that’s being fulfilled. The beings in control have had this region in their back pocket for ages, waiting to use it to their advantage.

  • Ortodox

    Serbia has same problems as Israel and nobody gives sh***. Not even Israelis.

  • nohomehere

    JESUS IS COMING SOON . and it will be HIS job to establish HIS rule from HIS mount not ours! Zechariah 14:3–4, 9,Revelation 11:15 says that the
    kingdom of the world will become the kingdom of our Lord and of his
    Christ, and he shall reign forever and ever.

    • GSOB

      He reigns NOW!

      • Sun Rise

        Actually, no He doesn’t, in the sense you mean. If He did, we’d all be observant to the constitution, there would be no more wars and blood shed, Israel would live in peace, and the nations would be sending a representative three times a year on the pain of plagues. People are not living to a thousand years. Satan and his minions would be chained up. The Torah would taught and explained properly and in proper context. All of these are indications of a Millennial reign.

        I am not one to say such things, but I feel embarrassed for you. I pray that our Abba in heaven would bless you with all spiritual wisdom, knowledge, understanding and discernment.

        • Sun Rise

          I qualify my statement so you understand where I am coming from. I have been reading your comments for sometime, and it appears to me you try to come across as a learned Bible scholar, when in fact your posts reveal the opposite. I wish your understanding of the scripture would match your obvious love and respect for it.

    • jox


  • Let it go

    You act and write like God doesn’t know what is happening. You don’t thunk God knows that Trump would’ve vetoed this? You don’t think God doesn’t know that most people disagree with this? You don’t think God doesn’t know that Obama is on the way out? Since when did God become unjust? God is very fair and God is very patient, slow to anger. God is also not up in Heaven wringing his hands in worry like you Michael. So, grow up and allow God to do His job. He’s much better at it than you are.

  • Lots of Nazi Jew haters are happy over this. They blame Israel for AMERICAN Left wing “Jews”.
    They are under the ‘strong delusion’ and bring curse upon our land by doing so

    • Gay Veteran

      Jew haters? you sound like a liberal whining about racists, sexists, xenophobes, etc.

      • PSS:
        You’re a Jew hater

        • Gay Veteran

          since you didn’t get it the first time:

          Jew haters? you sound like a liberal whining about racists, sexists, xenophobes, etc.

          • You’re a Jew hater, na na na na na na

          • Gay Veteran

            AGAIN: you sound like a liberal whining about racists, sexists, xenophobes, etc.

      • Kinda like how you cry and whine over Israel all day long?

        • Gay Veteran

          all day long? no, I have a job.

          but then so do you since you’re posting so much ONLY on Israel issues, hope the Israeli government is paying you well

          • You whine over Israel all day long.
            Me? Post on Israel all the time?
            No, I dont.
            My last few posts were on Christmas and I rarely post on Israel.
            Stop whining

          • Gay Veteran

            how much does the Israeli government pay you?

          • The Israeli govt does not pay American Iroquois Jews any money to support the Israeli people.

  • Truth

    All of those who cling to the lies and deceits of the Abrahamic religions are already doomed to pay for the atrocities of their actions, throughout all of Time.
    You have furthered an abomination that is untrue and diseased.
    The Source of All Being loves you and will cleanse you from the places and ways you have given to the Demigogue and original Sin. Your lives were horribly painful and may that your Souls have learned to be Good and Beneficial to All Beings by learning of how easy it can be to be deceived by the manipulations of the confused and fearful.
    May your rebirths continually be better. May this Realm heal quickly from the Afflictions you were tricked into creating.
    Source thanks you for your participations and will help you find Peace.

  • Cinderella Man

    I am spiritual not religious. I believe in a higher power that so call God and when I see everyone fighting over scripture and bible prophecies on this thread you guys aren’t gonna be getting any converts anytime soon. This story and this battle has been raging for thousands of years. Everybody is always fighting for their promised land. I don’t know about you but I’m sick of war. In sick of my friends coming back with PTSD and permanent injuries. And for what? To protect middle eastern countries? No more. We need to focus on our own country. America has been around for over 200 years. We are not cursed. If God hated us don’t you think we would have felt it by now? When political policy is dictated by scriptures written long ago we have some real issues…

  • Midwest Values

    I was against Trump relocating the US Embassy to Jerusalem so that we can avoid more bloodshed. After the Idiot abandoned Israel, I am 100% for relocating the US Embassy to Jerusalem.

  • wallyish

    Go Back to writing about the economy

  • horse777res

    One day GOD HIMSELF will strike Obama down and send him straight to HELL!!!

  • horse777res

    America has abandoned Isreal, and now GOD has abandoned America. Severe Judgment is coming!!! Accept CHRIST as your SAVIOR today.

    • Bill G Wilminton NC

      God Has HIS Hand On Trumps Shoulder And Under God’s Direction Let Us Watch Pres Elect Trump Maneuver To Protect Israel…..Should Be Quite A SHOW !!!

      Trump Can Start With Dropping US Funding Of The UN As US Provides 25%, Next Demand It Move Out Of NY, And Lastly The US Resigns From The UN…..All This As A Warmup !

      You Dont Mess With God, HIS Lands Or HIS People !!!


  • GetReal4U2


    • iris

      me, too! God stands with Israel, because of His love for and faithfulness to His promises towards her. He may allow Israel to go through worse for awhile longer, but this evil will come to an end, He will win against it for them and for His great name.

  • Joseph Ergas

    all this is not knew and was always un policy the only novelty is that in not vetoing, America by the way accepted the UN point of view but this doesn’t commit trump

  • William Freeman

    How about a one state solution? The right of return for all and then clean, democratic elections. Now that would be a decent solution.

  • Greg

    I don’t agree with them building in the west bank. That was wrong on their part. They should destroy everything they built and get out. That said and done they should deport every Muslim of every kind and start repelling attacks as acts of war. If Hezbollah (Iran) wants to hide behind women and children then their deaths are on their hands not Israel’s. The nastier the fight the more Jews will return to fight and maybe Christians will too. I know I would fight to defend it.

  • ErnieLane

    _This_ act of perfidy will be Obama’s lasting legacy.

  • AtomicMetroid

    GTFO of Palestine
    its time to end all American taxpayer welfare to Israel. Its time to send in weapons inspectors. Israel possesses illegal nukes and chem weapons.

  • Defiant

    The UN is a joke. The organization has ONE actual purpose: pooling the strength of weak nations in order to oppose and destroy the sovereignty of the USA. Piss on them. We should have defunded them DECADES ago.

  • AnotherLover

    Where are they supposed to go? Back. They can go back. They’re all supposed to go back home.

    Hypervenitlating is a good technique for competition divers — not authors.

  • David Stanley

    International law is not to be ignored .
    Upon the creation of Israel in 1948 it was tasked with supporting the Palestinians. Israel has failed at this task miserably .
    Since then Israel has hidden behind USA at the UN.
    ignoring international law. There will come a time when this no longer will
    be tolerated by the world. Saudi Arabia is another culprit hiding behind the skirt of USA. Time will erode the skirt of USA and they both will succumb to international law. It would behoove Israel to move to a 2 state solution position while Trump is President ,as they may not have a President more favorable of their position running USA ever again.

  • Cliff Fiscal

    I have Palestinian Christian friend,whose Family suffers greatly.Israel still has North,South,and West Jerusalem.This was the agreement in 1967,it has not been changed.The World is being taught God is a sky fairy,Jesus was never born,other lies by atheist.Israel supports efforts against Christians.
    Now,the World is turning against all religion.They do not believe in Israel favored status with God.They see just another apartheid State.They want sanctions.They want immigration of Africans and other non’jews,they do not understand why Israel should be special when every other Nation is being forced to accept barbarian muslim.
    Return the Palestinians land and rights,everything will be ok

  • Westcoastliberal

    Israel needs to be put down and forced to stop the genocide against the Palestinians. Why the U.S. didn’t do this years ago is a mystery to me.

  • Sun Rise

    Judging by the anti-Semitism and anti-Israeli rhetoric on this blog, now it the time to make up our minds Who’s side we’re on, because we seem to be entering the days of Ruth. Those that are true believers in the Messiah will become more and more evident in the days unfolding.

  • disqus_vM1Ts0vZ7C

    You are basically correct in your explanation of the moslems, except “Mohammed’s” pedophila was left out.

    You are also basically correct in your denunciation
    of the “pre-tribbers.”

    When Jesus was explaining the parable of the good seed
    and the bad seed (tares), growing up together in the
    same field, He said this:

    “Let them both grow together until the harvest: and in
    the time of harvest I will say to the reapers,

    Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them
    in bundles to burn them:
    but gather the wheat into my barn.”
    Matthew 13: 30

    Kind of really blows away their false ideology.

    • JC Teecher

      Yes it does.

      The lame stream mass media machine known as the “Mega Churches”, are setting ignorant people up for the entrance of the “first” christ to appear, but he will be the anti-christ,

      Rev 13:11

      And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

      (Because he is the Dragon/Serpent/Lucifer/Satan/False Prophet/Antichrist)

      Rev 13:13
      And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
      Rev 13:14
      And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast ………

      For many years I pondered why “man’s version” of the Antichrist differed than the truth in God’s Holy and Divine Word, until……

      Until He, via the Holy Spirit began to reveal the truth in His Word, via translation based on unctions in the Spirit.
      When I realized that there is a “literal” underworld, under the continent (basically) of Antarctica, I then began to see the real truths as to the chain of events that lead to the reign of Antichrist, by Satan.

      Satan “will” be booted out of the Heavenly realm/dimension, where he is now being held, along with his unholy angels.

      They will literally be transported, because they are entities, to the earth, to set up shop within the bowels of the earth, to plan their attack to deceive the whole world.
      Satans demonic army of lost souls of the earth, including the lost spirit souls of the hybrids/giants, are now within the bowels of the earth, and do appear on a regular basis, as “alien space creatures”.

      When the timing is right, the whole of the locust army, claiming to be Christ and His Army of Saints, will literally “come up out of the earth”, to fulfill his role as the false christ, and deceive the whole (majority) of the world.

      Very few have the integrity and intelligence, and more importantly the the spiritual guidance to see these truths.

      I believe you are one of those few, my friend.

      • disqus_vM1Ts0vZ7C

        JC, some thoughts for you:

        Scripture implies in Matthew 4: 8 & 9, that the devil was already loose
        in the world during Jesus’ time, and had control of kingdoms.

        “Again, the devil taketh Him up into an exceeding high mountain,
        and sheweth Him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them. And saith unto Him, All these things will I give thee, if thou
        wilt fall down and worship me.”

        In Ephesians 2:2, satan is referred to as the prince of the power of the air; implying he is already loose in the atmosphere.

        “Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit
        that now worketh in the children of disobedience.”

        And one more that comes to mind is in Daniel 10, when the angel Gabriel was sent to reveal things to Daniel, but the prince of Persia
        (evil spirit) hindered him, and the archangel Michael had to go help Gabriel.
        Daniel 10: 12 & 13 Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel, for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words.
        But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me: and I remained there with the kings of Persia.”

        If we fight not flesh and blood, but powers and principalities, the rulers of the darkness of this world (Ephesians 6: 12) , it would appear these dark entities are already loose in this world.

        If I have misunderstood what you were saying, please illuminate me. Jude verse 6 says “And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, He hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day”

        Is this what you are referring to?

        • JC Teecher

          Basically, yes.

          There are dark and demonic entities already loose on the earth, and have been since the flood of Noah, when the hybrids/giants/gebor/off spring of the Nephilim and flesh woman, were drowned. There spirit was not killed, as God had a reason and purpose for using them, especially in these last days.

          It is very hard to get one’s head wrapped around all that has taken place and is going to take place within the “spirit” realm. The average Joe can’t do it. It has taken me many years, and I have to admit, Steve Quayle has been a big help with his unveiling of the underworld goings on. I also spent some time reading the book of Enoch, to tie it all together.

          The Prince of Persia, is a strong Demonic Angel, that I like to label as one of Satan’s top Generals.

          Satan was given free will to roam the Earth, right up till Christ was tempted with Scripture, that was twisted, by Satan. After Christ told him to “get thee behind me Satan”, in Luke 4:8, he then was taken into Heaven, along with 7000 of his most powerful demons/Fallen angels/Nephilim, where they are being held by Michael the Archangel.

          At the sounding of the Sixth Trump, they will be loosed upon the earth, then go into the bowels of the earth to plan their deceptive attack on humanity, with the disembodied evil spirits of the giants that the Nephilim sired in Noah’s day.

          Once that is all set, Satan will come in on his white horse, with his angels, appearing to the biblically illiterate world, as Christ returned. As the Antichrist, he will be all things to all people, and will cause the whole (majority) of the world to whore after him, as they see him, and truly believe he is Christ.
          He comes in “peacefully and prosperously”, and will replace all governments, which are already staged to accept a world leader through the workings of the NWO/Beast System that is being put into place.

          All nations will accept his plan, even the most discreet Muslims, because they will see him as their Mahdi, that they have been indoctrinated, via the Koran, to accept.

          Satan is slick as the snake he was once like in the Garden, and it will not be any big chore for him to convince the world, as he snaps his fingers, and causes lightening to strike the earth.
          Only through God, is this allowed, and it is all just Satan’s little side show, as he fulfills his role as Antichrist.

          All this is 100% biblical, but ignorant preachers have been deceiving the world for decades, and possibly centuries, by telling them that the Antichrist will be a flesh man. WRONG! He is supernatural and will do supernatural things, as he is allowed to do. His fallen angels will be making it with flesh women again, except for those that have the “covering of Christ over their heads”, which is needed…”because of the angels”.

          1Co 11:10
          For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.

          The ignorant see this scripture as being about “good” angels, but there is nothing good about them.
          They are so bad and so controlling, that Christ had their time upon the earth, for the tribulation hour, “shortened” to a five month period, “lest no flesh be saved”, because of their mating with the daughters of Adam, and polluting the bloodlines of all people, as they did during Noah’s time. FIVE months. That is the shortened time, of which they will wreak havoc, mostly incognito, at first, but eventually the whole world will see what is happening just before Christ comes in all His splendor, and with “clouds” of Heavenly Angels, for the battle of all battles, to end the reign of the Demonic forces, as they fall dead in Jerusalem, after they “appear” to have killed God’s two witnesses.

          • disqus_vM1Ts0vZ7C

            JC, you wrote:
            “After Christ told him to “get thee behind me Satan”, in Luke 4:8, he then was taken into Heaven, along with 7000 of his most powerful demons/Fallen angels/Nephilim, where they are being held by Michael the Archangel”

            Luke 4:9, the very next verse, says satan then took Jesus to Jerusalem: “And he brought Him to Jerusalem, and set Him on a
            pinnacle of the temple and said unto HIm, If thou be
            the Son of God, cast thyself down from hence.”

            Luke 4: 13 “And when the devil had ended all the temptation,
            he departed from Him for a season.”

            Whether you have written what you wrote because someone told
            you that, or maybe you just didn’t know.

            But I implore you not to add or take away from the Word of God:
            Only what is in the Holy Bible is true.

            The Book of Enoch will lead you astray: it is not of God.

          • JC Teecher

            Well ..excuuuuse me for not entering the very next verse, of which I have not entered anything or taken away anything from the word of God. As I knew it, and assumed you as a follower knew it, I did not see the need to put a space of time to the comment, as it did happen during that same time of the tempting of Christ.

            So I guess you are the Mr. perfect that we are all to bow down to, and you can pat yourself on the back for pointing that out, of which you try to make me out to be something I am not. I see clearly what kind of christian you are, as I have dealt with your type for over ten years on the internet. Your type tries to sow discord among the brethren.

            who told you that the Book of Enoch was not of God? who told you it was not inspired of God, for a purpose, for the students of higher learning?

            I would like to know if you have written that “because someone told you that, or maybe you just didn’t know.”

            Come on now, let’s be honest since you are being so knit pickey, and judgmental.

            I needed clarification on something many years ago, I prayed about it, and the Holy Spirit led me straight to the Book of Enoch, so I could grasp the truth of my indecision, at that time.
            You are free to make all the false claims as you so desire, but I know what i know by the unctions of the Holy Spirit.

            Playing oneupmanship little quips against a servant of Jehovah, will not get you more feathers in your hat of superiority complex.

            Have a good trip, and since I was not preaching a sermon about the “getting behind me Satan” part, I don’t think other people will really care if it does not line up exactly and chronologically with your mind.

          • disqus_vM1Ts0vZ7C

            JC, The reason the next verse in Luke, and those after it, were included, was
            to show, that according to the Scriptures of the Holy Bible,
            ha’satan WAS NOT
            taken back into heaven, and held there by Michael.

            If you have scripture that verifies the statement you claim to be true, please be so kind
            as to share. The Bereans were recommended because they studied on their own,
            to ascertain the Scriptures. I am sure we are all looking for the truth, not to be deceived.

            No one on the face of this earth is perfect: The Bible says there is none good, no, not one.
            It also says all our righteousness is as filthy rags.

            No one is being judgmental. But there was concern over infliction of punishment which God
            says will occur if one adds to, or takes away from the Word of God.

            2 Timothy 3: 4 says “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for
            doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in

            Jesus said, in John 8: 31 “..If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed.”

          • JC Teecher

            So, according to your interpretation, Satan is not in Heaven being held by Michael and his Angels?

          • disqus_vM1Ts0vZ7C

            JC, If ha’satan was bound in heaven, how then can there still be evil
            on earth?

            You wrote: “Once that is all set, Satan will come in on his white horse, with his angels, appearing to the biblically illiterate world, as Christ returned. As the Antichrist, he will be all things to all people, and will cause the whole (majority) of the world to whore after him, as they see him, and truly believe he is Christ.”

            It is Jesus Christ, Son of God, that comes on the white horse in Rev.
            19: 11 – 16

            I fear for the deception which you are under. God, please help JC
            see the truth of your Word, your Son, Jesus Christ.

  • Steven Clarke

    are the Jewish people today in Israel the same ones from the ones in the bible? how many times has Israel / Jerusalem been conquered or destroyed in the past? how many more times will it be conquered/destroyed in the future? Does God still hold great Reverence to only Israel or does his love encompass the whole world? last question WWJD? (what would Jesus do?)

    • Jerry C

      My Biblical understanding is that this time Israel is here to stay, so Israel is not going anywhere. The fact it exists proves another book wrong. WWJD? John 3:16

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  • Jerry C

    By the way, I’m inclined to believe those in Canaan were offspring of the Nephilim, fallen angels who mated with human women. So, they were abominations & meant to usurp the land to prevent God’s children from occupying it; thus, defeating (attempt) prophecy to make God out to be a liar. Of course, they failed.

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  • Jerry C

    The 3rd Temple will be built upon the Temple Mount next to the Dome of the Rock where it lies in the part called the Outer Court or the Court of the Gentiles. Jews will get their Temple & muslims will keep their Dome of the Rock, so everyone will be happy. It’ll all be “peace & safety” for a little while; then …

    • JC Teecher

      I used to think that would happen as well, (and it is possible if God allows it) but; the truth of the matter is, there will never be animal sacrifices again, as some teach.

      The only Temple that matters, after the Earth swallows up any part or completed temple, in the future; will be the Millennial Temple that is built as to the requirements set forth in Ezekiel Chapter 40, onward.

      After God cleansed the Temple/Holy Grounds the first time, He said He was going to cleanse it one more time, and then would come the Kingdom with a final temple.

  • Excellent!

    If the CRIMINAL state of Israel is abolished, it will be a true new spiritual awakening for the world (which includes ALL of the Jewish diaspora on this planet as well).

  • brew_it

    If this is heading where I think it is, The entire ME will be a glassy surface by mid march.

  • Zebulon

    One of the worst things we as a country have ever done, in regards to our diplomatic, political, strategic and economic dealings with the rest of the world, was to give our unconditional support to Israel. There are times when they are right, and there are times when they are wrong, and when we take their side even when they are demonstrably wrong it puts us at a grave disadvantage.

    It is NOT anti-Semitic to take a side against Israel on the occasions where it calls for it. Whether this is one of those times I am not qualified to say, but this endless mindset that we must always take their side needs to end.

  • Peter Harris

    “The UN Security Council Has Just Officially Given Every Inch Of East Jerusalem To The Palestinians.”

    That headline is complete BS.
    Michael, go and read the complete transcript of the resolution.

    Including the Foreword, and the intention behind the resolution.
    These contrarian websites complain loudly and bitterly, if they’re accused of being “Fake news.”
    In the case of this story, it screams FAKE!

  • Undecider

    So, how was Israel founded?

  • russ

    finaly Obama got something right. Israelys move out of the settlement housing and the Palestinians move in to compensate for bulldozing there houses. If god is supposed to be almighty why hasn’t he settled this dispute years ago?

  • Richard Hennessy

    So who is going to enforce this gift to the Palestinians?

  • Shelba Herring

    The UN does not own any part of Israel so how can they give palestine any part of it. The Israels should tell the UN to go F*** themselves. Even if the Israels concede this travesty there will be no peace because palestine is determined to wipe all of them off the face of the earth

  • W

    Finally the right decision was made. If America wants existence of Israel so bad they should give them part of their territory instead of taking it from Palestine.

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