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Undeniable Evidence That The Real Economy Is Already In Recession Mode

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Evidence - Public DomainYou are about to see a chart that is undeniable evidence that we have already entered a major economic slowdown.  In the “real economy”, stuff is bought and sold and shipped around the country by trucks, railroads and planes.  When more stuff is being bought and sold and shipped around the country, the “real economy” is growing, and when less stuff is being bought and sold and shipped around the country, the “real economy” is shrinking.  I know that might sound really basic, but I want everyone to be on the same page as we proceed in this article.  Just because stock prices are artificially high right now does not mean that the U.S. economy is in good shape.  In fact, there was a stock rally at this exact time of the year in 2008 even though the underlying economic fundamentals were rapidly deteriorating.  We all remember what happened later that year, so we should not exactly be rejoicing that precisely the same pattern that we witnessed in 2008 is happening again right in front of our eyes.

During the month of April, the Cass Transportation Index was down 4.9 percent on a year over year basis.  What this means is that a lot less stuff was bought and sold and shipped around the country in April 2016 when compared to April 2015.  The following comes from Wolf Richter

Freight shipments by truck and rail in the US fell 4.9% in April from the beaten-down levels of April 2015, according to the Cass Transportation Index, released on Friday. It was the worst April since 2010, which followed the worst March since 2010. In fact, shipment volume over the four months this year was the worst since 2010.

This is no longer statistical “noise” that can easily be brushed off.

Of course this was not just a one month fluke.  The reality is that we have now seen the Cass Shipping Index decline on a year over year basis for 14 consecutive months.  Here is more commentary and a chart from Wolf Richter

The Cass Freight Index is not seasonally adjusted. Hence the strong seasonal patterns in the chart. Note the beaten-down first four months of 2016 (red line):

Cass Freight Index - Wolfstreet

This is undeniable evidence that the “real economy” has been slowing down for more than a year.  In 2007-2008 we saw a similar thing happen, but the Federal Reserve and most of the “experts” boldly assured us that there was not going to be a recession.

Of course then we immediately proceeded to plunge into the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression of the 1930s.

Traditionally, railroad activity has been a key indicator of where the U.S. economy is heading next.  Just a few days ago, I wrote about how U.S. rail traffic was down more than 11 percent from a year ago during the month of April, and I included a photo that showed 292 Union Pacific engines sitting in the middle of the Arizona desert doing absolutely nothing.

Well, just yesterday one of my readers sent me a photograph of a news article from North Dakota about how a similar thing is happening up there.  Hundreds of rail workers are being laid off, and engines are just sitting idle on the tracks because there is literally nothing for them to do…

North Dakota Railroad Engines Idle

Intuitively, does it seem like this should be happening in a “healthy” economy?

Of course not.

The reason why this is happening is because businesses have been selling less stuff.  Total business sales have now been declining for almost two years, and they are now close to 15 percent lower than they were in late 2014.

Because sales are way down, unsold inventories are really starting to pile up.  The inventory to sales ratio is now close to the level it was at during the worst moments of the last recession, and many analysts expect it to continue to keep going up.

Why can’t people understand what is happening?  So far this year, job cut announcements are up 24 percent and the number of commercial bankruptcies is shooting through the roof.  Signs that we are in the early chapters of a new economic downturn are all around us, and yet denial is everywhere.

For instance, just consider this excerpt from a CNBC article entitled “This key recession signal is broken“…

Treasury yields are behaving as if they are signaling a recession, but strategists say this time it’s more likely a sign of something else.

The market has been buzzing about the flattening yield curve, or the fact that yields on longer duration Treasurys are getting closer to yields on shorter duration securities.

In the case of 10-year notes and two-year notes, that spread was the flattest Friday than it has been on a closing basis since late 2007. The yield curve had turned negative in 2006 and stayed there for months in 2007 before turning higher ahead of the Great Recession. The spread was at 95 at Friday’s curve but widened Monday to more than 96.

Treasury yields are very, very clearly telling us that a new recession is here, but because the “experts” don’t want to believe it they are telling us that the signal is “broken”.

For many Americans, all that seems to matter is that the stock market has recovered from the horrible crashes last August and earlier this year.  But in the end, I am convinced that those crashes will simply be regarded as “foreshocks” of a much greater crash in our not too distant future.

But if you don’t want to believe me, perhaps you will listen to Goldman Sachs.  They just came out with six reasons why stocks are about to tumble.

Or perhaps you will believe Bank of America.  They just came out with nine reasons why a big stock market decline is on the horizon.

To me, one of the big developments has been the fact that stock buybacks are really starting to dry up.  In fact, announced stock buybacks have declined 38 percent so far this year

After snapping up trillions of dollars of their own stock in a five-year shopping binge that dwarfed every other buyer, U.S. companies from Apple Inc. to IBM Corp. just put on the brakes. Announced repurchases dropped 38 percent to $244 billion in the last four months, the biggest decline since 2009, data compiled by Birinyi Associates and Bloomberg show. “If the only meaningful source of demand in the market is companies buying their own shares back, then what happens if that goes away?” asked Brad McMillan, CIO of Commonwealth “We should be concerned.”

Stock buybacks have been one of the key factors keeping stock prices at artificially inflated levels even though underlying economic conditions have been deteriorating.  Now that stock buybacks are drying up, it is going to be difficult for stocks to stay disconnected from economic reality.

A lot of people have been asking me recently when the next crisis is going to arrive.

I always tell them that it is already here.

Just like in early 2008, economic conditions are rapidly deteriorating, but the stock market has not gotten the memo quite yet.

And just like in 2008, when the financial markets do finally start catching up with reality it will likely happen very quickly.

So don’t take your eyes off of the deteriorating economic fundamentals, because it is inevitable that the financial markets will follow eventually.

  • strtgy101

    I know it’s going to get very interesting in the next few months ahead.
    I’m expecting to see a lot of people panic as the economy really begins to head south. My employer is sending me to Japan to do a job that will be pointless as everything begins to fall. For that reason alone I am not talking my family there. The cards are dealt and everything is over the players just don’t realize that no amount of bluffing will change the outcome.

    • JustBill

      I was in a similar situation, we chose to stay in the US but we moved away from DC. Before we moved we took advantage of the hot DC Metro Region real estate market and sold our home.
      We didn’t want to be near DC, the Eastern seaboard or any large city when resources become scarce.

      • Kim

        Smart move

      • ALWAYSTOMORROW

        I know many things influence someone to move. How big of a part did “resources becoming scarce” play in your decision to move?

        • JustBill

          Resource scarcity was low for the near term, but it carried a high impact weighting.

          We stayed much longer than we originally planned because the opportunities are abundant and the salaries and performance incentives are high.

          DC is in a bubble possessing the qualities of both one way glass and a circus mirror; looking out from the bubble the troubles of main street and the general public look self induced, and the people in the bubble are shielded from view. This is by design.

          We evaluated the probability and subsequent impact of many things, then we updated our exit strategy.

        • SunnyFlaSnotress

          Doesn’t he know about Walmart DOTcom?

    • SunnyFlaSnotress

      I wonder who will have more fun.. the Geisha or the guys down your block.

  • William Lutz

    I’m very concerned about my future. I am an underemployed college dropout currently seeking work. I’m too broke to pay for an education. I live at home with my parents because I can’t afford a home either. My mom and dad are struggling to make ends meet. I don’t know if I’ll ever become successful here. I am wondering if I should start a new life in another country or simply move to a rural area.

    Why was our future stolen from us? What did we do to deserve this?

    • Lao Tzu

      Your future was not stolen, you just failed to built it. Seems like you, like many others, had some wrong expectation throughout and your parents did not correct you.

      There is no job waiting for you, get over your entitlement here. Be self-employed, entrepreneur, start freelancing, be it lawn mowing, car wash, uber-driving or programming. It is not necessarily someone’s fault that you did not get a job. In fact, the smarter and more ambitious you are, the less likely you are to look for a job.

      • aldownunder

        I think William Lutz was just being a putz
        Surely his post is a joke
        But then again a lot of younger people expect everything handed to them and wont get of their ar$e to help themselves

        I did say a lot not ALL

        • William Lutz

          Both of you do me a favor and look at my profile photo. Can’t you see I’m wearing a freaking suit and a tie? I recently took this picture the day I went to the employment center.

          At least I didn’t rack up a mountain of student loan debt by pursuing a worthless Arts degree at an Ivy League university.

          • aldownunder

            Still looking………………
            If your not happy with the way life is going do something about it whinging on here’s not going to help you

          • Jacynthia Read

            Many people on here are very self righteous because they have not walked in your shoes and things are still going their way, but time marches on and their day is coming. God is not mocked. Whatsoever a man sowth that shall he also reap. Be of good cheer and thrust in the Lord. He will provide a way. Just remember to help others as you are also blessed.

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            there is no god

          • James Staten

            *** 1st Corinthians 15:1-4

          • GSOB

            John 6:29
            Jesus replied,

            “This is the work of God: to believe in the One He has sent.”

          • Steeve Girard

            enough +0.5s to make a +1

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            How many charges show on your arrest record?

          • William Lutz

            I have 0 charges on my criminal record. I never broke the law.

          • GSOB

            Says who?

          • EconomicCollapseEventually

            I see adults even entitled, It’s everyone. Bottom line is, if you hustle and are willing to be motivated, have a good attitude and take any job and work your way thru, or start your own company. MANY LIVE AT HOME< my kids 20 and 25 live at home, It's normal, it's expensive to live out on your own, TWO THINGS::: ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING so get happy, and GRATITUDE is everything. Be happy about waking up, Grateful for having a roof over your head ,,, FIRST,, Imagine if you had 3 kids and no job , there is always someone worse off than you. Anyone that wants to chime in, join face book group "" Economic Collpase 2016-2020"""" until then, 3 months of food, PEACE

          • GSOB

            Good. People need the Lord first and foremost.

          • JustBill

            Credentials are the ticket to the big dance, no credentials no dancey dancey.
            If you don’t have credentials you must have skills that employers want, you have to do it better than lazy credentialed monkeys.

            Your suit belays no ability/value, it’s similar to putting new metal siding on a house that has had its copper, kitchen appliances and heating/cooling system removed.

            You’ve proven that you know how to spend money.
            Please brace yourself for reality, you will need to earn the trust and respect of others before they invest their knowledge in you and provide you with opportunities.
            Without knowledge, skills and ability you will continue to be kicked around by circumstances.

            You bought a suit when you should have bought a book.

          • Steeve Girard

            Jacynthia, gives the Abrahamic cultist view. Here’s my view from the Pagan side. You were born, and you are part of the Earth. What ever people or life does to you, if it does not kill you it makes you stronger, and it always means you have a place in this world. What ever you feel, you just have to do, mindful of the consequences. Death is the only finality.

    • Robert

      Not to worry, millions think social security will always be there for them. Everyone has drank the kool aid at some level. You have a lot of company. The hindsighters are with us always.

      • Uzal Roberts

        It likely won’t go under because of the myriad millions dependent on it. If you search around the Internet there appears t be three options for keeping it afloat: 1. Raising the age of retirement…again; 2. cutting benefits; and 3. raising taxes.

    • strtgy101

      You like so many others think that a degree should open doors for you, I on the other hand I started at the very bottom doing filing and worked my way up without any degrees. I learned from there and took every crap job handed to me and made it right. As I proved my worth I was promoted and given more and more. My subordinates and seniors came to me for solutions, I found them. Now I’m expected to do that same thing over in Japan.

    • William Lutz

      Wow! I actually didn’t expect to be judged and humiliated like this. I’d appreciate some positive words of encouragement. Yes, I made a few poor choices (because I’m young & human) and I take responsibility for them. However, I’m also trying to acknowledge the fact that it is getting more difficult to thrive in this deteriorating economy. Come on! We all know that it is tough out there, especially for young people.

      • CASTIEL

        they judge you beacuse they still have their jobs….just enjoy life the better way you can….and grab every opportunity that you find

        • William Lutz

          Thanks Castiel!

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            You know William, maybe your family needs you there in Venezuela during these hard times.

          • Steeve Girard

            Ouch that was nasty from you.

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            Maybe this is his god’s way of saying “Go Back!”

          • William Lutz

            No way am I going over there. I really wish I could go there, but the conditions are so terrible that I can’t even imagine myself being there.

            As a matter of fact, my Venezuelan relatives are the ones who should move here permanently. I’m not going to risk my life in that ghetto just to look after them, if they so choose to stay there. For the record, last year I asked one of my aunts if she was really sure that she wanted to stay there for good; she said yes.

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            How about teaching English over there?
            Oh, you’re afraid of the crimes over there.. I see.

          • William Lutz

            I don’t think they want to learn English. Obviously, they are too ignorant and apathetic.

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            I’ve always thought most foreigners do want to learn English, and that it’s required in somewhat developed countries.

      • Steeve Girard

        Learn basic trade… when the economy goes haywire that will be your new money. It can be as easy as learning to make soap.
        .
        When it comes to work… be a mercenary… that is what I do. I do any job asked, that I know I can do, as long as they pay me to do it. And if they start to screw around… then it’s bye bye and find another contract.

      • SunnyFlaSnotress

        What kind of mistakes did you make?

        • Dude

          Right!

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            ::smiling::

      • JustBill

        You may think this is humiliating, but you came here to seek both confirmation and stinging words of advice. The fact that you are still hanging in could mean that you actually want information that will change your perspective and grow, but I’m not ruling out that you’re an idiot.

      • Lewis Conley

        sorry but you can make money saleing food and plants

    • Truegrit

      Stop whining, find a need and open your own business to fill it!

    • Jacynthia Read

      Take courage. Yes, your future was stolen from by the very people who now blame you for their failings. It is perfectly normal to look at things and voice what has happen. We are all doing it. You are not whining. If you are not a Christian, ask Jesus to come into your life. Cast your cares upon him and He will meet you where you are. Repent of your sins and follow Jesus. Get a Bible and read it and ask Him to supply all your needs. If you do this doors will open for you. God will give you a new set of friends and a new life.

    • Steeve Girard

      Resilience, Patience, Resignation. That is what you need to get through… you do not need to listen to people barking at you, all you need, is to listen to the world that is around you and find something “that looks like a target, with your name written on it”, and go.

    • natxlaw

      Your future has not been stolen, and it ain’t a matter of deserving. First I’ll say it sounds like you want to learn, which is very good.
      Before the last big recession, I found two jobs just by asking for volunteer work. I laid tile with some of the best builders I’ve ever seen, and I put airplanes together with some mechanics who were alright. Then I went off to lawschool. If I were you, I’d take whatever work I could get, even if I had to start out volunteering. It’s OK to be concerned about the future, but you will feel much better if you are doing some kind of work. I think everyone should have a profession and a trade. If you don’t have a trade under your belt, find a way to learn construction, welding, cooking, baking, small engine repair, masonry or something like it.

      • Guest

        That is very good advice.

        • GSOB

          Become a musician.

      • Guest

        I have to say again that is such great advice. I know a young person with a family who watches what people do, then, he practices as home, such as carpentry. He never turns down a job, always eager to learn. Now he knows how to do many things.

    • William Lutz

      Well, now I am glad to see that a few people care. Thank you Steeve, Castiel, natxlaw, Jacynthia, and strtgy101.

    • ISA41:10

      Liberalism!

    • mtntrek3

      Hey William. I hear you. It’s tough……. not getting any easier. As Steeve said, trades are good to learn. I’m a welder/somewhat of a machinist. Certain areas have more opportunities than others. I’m in S. Illinois and there are limited openings here. Around more populated areas there are more job listings of course. The trades, along w/ several other occupations there are layoffs/slowdowns. W/trades you can freelance some in between employment. Our son is 22 and having difficulty finding gainful employment in this area. He works part time for a local telephone business. He still lives w/us. We love him of course and are hoping to help him into some full time employment soon. I left this area at age 20 to join the Air Force due to insufficient job opportunities. I spent a little over nine years enlisted until coming back here. I did well after coming back w/ a trade for some years……….. then the jobs started to dwindle. I and my family have done numerous side jobs in between my employed times to make ends meet (lawn mowing/firewood cutting and selling/scrap metal removal and selling/odd welding jobs/etc.). I’ve been on partial disability for about two years now through the VA due to my knees needing replacement along w/ hip problems. The wife still works at part time jobs and I do what I can here at home. I hear you……. it’s rough. Keep your head up and like Jacynthia said, Put your faith in the Lord. He’s our hope, and He will help you too. Best wishes and take care William. Chris

      • SunnyFlaSnotress

        there is no god

        • GSOB

          Mark 9:24

          Immediately the boy’s father cried out,

          “I do believe; help my unbelief!”

        • EconomicCollapseEventually

          God is Good. Ask God to show you the way and he will. My daughter use to be athiest , I told her to open hear heart and ask God to show her, she’s coming around now. Watch amazing things happen when you seek God out, and you dont have to be a religious freak, Just be your best man, love people and keep smiling, Let go and Let GOD. HE’s changed my life and I dont preach to people unless I feel they need a little help. Peace. Sunny may be passive aggressive, you can always block HER, she’s having a blast at the expense of people. Karma will get her. until then LOVE AND LIGHT TO YOU DEAR,,

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            I have no reason to ask things of a non-existent god.

        • Steeve Girard

          His comment had nothing religious. Until the last line. You can give some leniency to the cultists from time to time.

        • mtntrek3

          Sure there is Sunny…….. and, He loves all of us. He wants us all to become His children through His Son Jesus. Jesus is the Way to be acceptable to God. I for one , a sinner, am very grateful for His forgiveness.

    • elmcqueen3

      What we did to deserve this is we all bought into the idea that globalization was the wave of the future…Our politicians bent over backwards to give away jobs to foreign countries…As a US Army soldier I took an overseas discharge and stayed in Germany…I married a German gal and we had two children together…I worked like everyone else on the German economy…It was good and I was making better wages than my wife’s friends…When the kids reached school age we came back to the states for them to start school in my home country…During my stay in Germany like so many European’s I became a globalist…When my family and I settled back in the states it didn’t take long to realize I had been wrong…Occasionally we would watch the educational channel on channel 6…What was being propagandized was that the United States should move it’s manufacturing base to third world countries…Working as a machinist in this country I saw that American companies were doing exactly that…Manufacturing began moving out of this country and setting up shop in foreign countries…American jobs were being lost and no one seem to give a damn…next excuse by the global governance groupies was that the US economy would be based on a service orientated economy…hence foreign workers were immigrated into the US for the purpose of fulfilling many of these service jobs…The vetting of these foreign workers was dropped and the flood gates were opened…More companies moved overseas chasing cheap labor to enhance their profits…Take GM as an example…our government with heads like Barack Obama gave them billions in bailout funds…what did GM do with these funds…they went to China and built two hugh manufacturing facilities to produce American automobiles…American jobs were lost giving tens of thousands of jobs to the Chinese…We have been betrayed by those we elected to secure our future and the future of our grandchildren…our political leaders have sold us out to the United Nations, NATO, the World Banks, the International Monetary Fund, and any enmity that is associated with globalization is looked upon as the salvation of the world…meaning the US must submit to the dictates of The New World Order…the NWO term has been used by every recent President Democrat and Republican alike as a tool of propaganda for the financial elitist who rule the world via their agenda for world domination (globalization) with you and I being brainwashed into becoming culpable and gullible slaves to their NWO economic dictates…Hence we see the rise of Donald Trump as savvy American’s are sick and tired of seeing globalization ruin this country by diminishing the quality of life of our children and grand children to come…they have completely destroyed the American dream…It will never be restored to the greatness it once was over 50 years ago…No thanks to our corrupt politicians who are more concerned with their future and the NWO than the future of this country and it’s citizenry.

    • SunnyFlaSnotress

      Well.. did you do any drugs?

      • Steeve Girard

        Huh??? Were you hurt that much in the past? If you try retrospective, that can be almost a mission impossible.

        • SunnyFlaSnotress

          I edited to clarify

          • Steeve Girard

            The question caused by reverse psychology still remains.

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            hmm.. i don’t think i raped any guys

    • GSOB

      Endure like your parents.
      Got Christ?

    • Guest

      Mr. Lutz, if you are able to do so, I would recommend learning a trade, because you can take it anywhere you go. As for the education, I suggest not to worry about it, because the stuff they are teaching the young people these days is how to be a mind-controlled slave. As for living at home, that’s ok. It not your fault, and you have an opportunity to bless them while you are there (helping out, etc).

      I hope you don’t mind, I read through your posts. You are a blessed young man who has been given eyes to see and ears to hear. Your future has not been stolen from you. We are in a different time in history now, there is a lot of transition happening. Take a deep breath and chill. Right now, Abba is teaching His people how to endure with patience, because He wants to build character in us. My advice to you is to stick very close to the Father, seek His face, read His Word much. As for moving elsewhere, Abba will show you which direction to take.

      I would recommend reading Mr. Snyder’s books and watching his videos. There is a video I would highly recommend, and that would be the Gathering of the Lost Ten Tribes, and please listen only to what Michael presents. I have watched the video and personally conversed with Michael about it. I believe what he shares will resonate with you.

      I speak from personal experience. We have recently gone through much transitioning in our own lives; it has not been easy, it has cost us (Yeshua/Jesus said to count the cost, and also to pick up our crosses and follow Him). The blessing is that we are becoming more trusting and dependant on Him and purified so that we reflect Him.

      • EconomicCollapseEventually

        Yes he seems like a good kid. If anyone was stolen from, it was all American’s honestly, but it’s besides the point, The fact you want to become something is half the battle, Applaud you and agree, My 20 yr old son learned cnc , it’s hard, but he also learned to weld, it’s dirty, but he has skills. I agree with the others, Be close with God, I personally attend Buddha weekly and they talk about training your mind to be happy, happy for what you have, happiness is inside you, when you are happy inside it’s hard to take that away, Find God, There is one God anyhow and Buddha isn’t into that , I go there for the mind work. I respect Christians, Catholics and Jews, because they all have good intentions. Maybe Mediatate, clear your mind and find inner peace then go from there. Once you are happy , nothing can really make you super upset, Example since starting Buddha, my daughter wrecked her car, I showed up calm, solved it, learned to be patient, I had plumbing back up yesterday, everyone freaks out and I”m calm and have a plan, just be calm and you will find your way. SO many biz on line also. Even real simple stuff like elderly care is always needed. Not a life career, but get out in the world and experience different things and build character and you will find your way. If you are on facebook join the NAMASTE group, a bunch of loving and positive people there 🙂

        • GSOB

          God’s Holiness will burn the Buddha dross right out of you, if you belong to Him.

          • EconomicCollapseEventually

            That is your reality , not mine . Peace

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            bigot

          • GSOB

            I’ve been called worse.

          • Steeve Girard

            BS!
            -1

        • SunnyFlaSnotress

          I’m trying to move near a Buddhist Temple.
          I hope it happens.

          • Steeve Girard

            I suggest you do not. You are to greyed in your mind to understand any teaching they would try to impart you.
            .
            A better suggestion would be to retrace the whole history you had, and try to come to terms with it.

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            You know I’m not always as crass as I am on the board, but as much as I find Buddhism intriguing, I believe it is theist..having numerous gods/goddesses and that isn’t for me.
            Nonetheless, I’d move for the house, not the Temple..though I AM glad the Thai place isn’t some kind of Thai sex haven.. or at least not that I know of yet..
            I hear they hold nice buffets of sorts which sounds like fun.

      • William Lutz

        Thank you! By education I meant a trade or career school.

    • ONE WHO KNOWS

      You’re not alone. I’m 50. Struggling, flat-broke. I’ve attended college 8 Times in the last 15 years. Trying to retrain and upgrade my skills. I’ve taken every free training course and seminar offered through unemployment. I’ve worked 2 or 3 jobs at once, worked 7 days a week, worked 12 hour days trying to stay afloat. Nothing worked. Finally, it dawned on me that something was wrong, so I started to research the economy. That’s how I stumbled upon this website. I actually enjoy this site, folks are informative. I’ve learned a great deal reading everyone’s comments.

      • SunnyFlaSnotress

        It’s good to know you enjoy whining with the rest while receiving encouragement to put your faith in heavenly powers that don’t exist. Your sense of entitlement is duly fostered and you finally feel relief from personal responsibilty with the notion of “everybody’s going thru it”. While you’re sitting on your hands,.. blame the government, blame corporations, or find something else to blame.. but whatever you do, don’t try to become self-employed.

        • GSOB

          Acts 10:34

          Then Peter began to speak:
          “I now truly understand that God does not show favoritism,….

        • jaxon64

          You are heartless and evil–to mock and vilify someone who has given 110% effort and approached all avenues to succeed is reprehensible.
          Maybe you can give him a link for the HR dept you work for so he can be a professional troll and spend 16 hours a day in the comments sections of forums like you–and make money for his efforts as you do.

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            thank you.

          • EconomicCollapseEventually

            lol, female, ok figures, I am self made so I agree with your ex, finding a job means a sort of begging or complying with the employer, I”m not a good one at that, I find working smart is best. There are so many ways to make money, I started out a welfare mom at age 19, and now I have rentals and my home paid off and I”m a full time mom and primary person in my family who pays for everything. I believe people think it takes a lot of work to make it, actually it takes a lot of thinking and showing up. Find a nitch market in anything. Anything. If you clean barbques well, do it, people will pay 200 to have theirs cleaned in my area, if you can do brakes on a car, list on craigslist you install brake pads or shoes for $85 on site, ,,,,,,,,,,there are so many ways to make money, and more money than a 9-5 job, FIND THAT NITCH 🙂

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            There ya go all you Sissy Boys.. it’s so easy a welfare mother can do it.

          • EconomicCollapseEventually

            Dont forget to get a refill of your psych Meds … And by the way , here is a good example of wasted energy on being negative . Poster child of what you don’t want to be . Imagine living in this posters soul . No thank you . Praying for you , for real .

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            Honestly, no psyche meds here. This board gives me much laughter.. and as you know, laughter is medicine for the soul.
            You don’t sound like a Buddhist at peace. You should meditate this.

          • disqussted999

            Can’t there be an eject button for sociopathic aholes like SFS that are farting and scheissing on the board and then smearing it in peopleºs faces? No? Well there oughta be….

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            Scheissing.. that’s my word of the day..
            Well I had to kill time before picking up my boyfriend at the VA clinic.. and I do so like you people better than the guys on internet chat who are just looking for any iota of motivation to put their hands down their pants.

          • Steeve Girard

            It a German mixed with English suffix word for an English word that is not allowed here.

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            yes.. i googled

          • Steeve Girard

            She is not sociopathic, she is just rugged by the bad deals she had in life. I myself almost turned like her.

          • Steeve Girard

            In my case, I do not beg for jobs, I get offers and I pick one.

          • retired22

            sleep around,….do you?

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            i’ve had 2 partners in 16 years, 3 if you go by the original Bill Clinton definition.
            hey.. you asked..

          • retired22

            Did they wear pants suits?

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            um..doesn’t everyone on ocassion?

          • Brian

            Tooooooooooo much information!!!

          • ONE WHO KNOWS

            Thank you. It wasn’t even my intention to complain. I was being supportive to the other man who was having a rough time of it.

          • EconomicCollapseEventually

            xoxo send the love, I have total respect for those that share their story. Making others feel good and giving advice is selfless,,, Thank you for sharing. We all have struggles, Have a great week 🙂

          • Guest

            Well said, jaxon64. I don’t know why Michael continues to allow her to post her hateful comments here. She is truly evil.

        • ONE WHO KNOWS

          See, this is what happens when you think you know it all. I’m a veteran and I’m a writer. I work to finance my literary career. My future looks very BRIGHT. I, unlike you, can relate to other people’s struggles. I have a heart. Yes, I’m struggling, but I still have joy and love for God in my heart. God is in control, not man. I’ll let you know when my book is out on the market, okay?

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            ok.. I look forward to reading “How the Government Did US All Wrong.. BooHoo”.

          • Noel

            Really? What world are you living in? You need to watch The Big Short and get a reality check. When Hollywood puts out a movie about the true events of the Great Recession, watch out! I’m sure the Hollywood execs didn’t want to do it but the director has his own production company and even Brad Pitt’s company invested into it, it was gonna get made regardless! Wake up! Even the wall streeters were shocked at what happened in 2008! To the point they got out afterwards and made millions and billions betting against what they saw was happening! You’re an unwise fool and soon enough you will have no choice but to see the ugly truth! Our Father In Heaven Is In Control! Only He can help you! Pretty soon, many will be turning to Him!

          • GSOB

            And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon Him,

            the spirit of wisdom and
            understanding,

            the spirit of counsel and
            might,

            the spirit of knowledge and

            of the fear of the Lord;

        • Lazarovic

          Easy Sunny, a little empathy please.

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            Maybe for you sweetie 🙂

        • Steeve Girard

          Why not become self-employed? I am a job mercenary!

        • Hugo Schonhaar

          And you say this with Christian charity, of course!

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            no,no,no.. I’m atheist

      • Hugo Schonhaar

        It’s a crying shame that a (real) man who wants to work can’t get a job that can support him.

        • SunnyFlaSnotress

          another crybaby

      • ProsperityForRI

        This is not a recession, it is simply the end of economic growth forever. With ecosystems in collapse you can not continue to grow the economy. The slowdown starts in the oldest industrial areas and is accompanied by a real estate bubble. 2 months ago the signs came out on N Main St. Learn to invest in real estate. I took it as sure sign the apocalypse is upon us.

      • Samu Darkheart

        I hear you. I am almost 57 years old. I have 27 years of manufacturing experience. About four years ago, I went back to college to get an MBA degree thinking it would help I and my family. Now I have over $43,000 in student loans that I cant pay back. I found a few contract only positions and was told that the client has hired workers in the past when their contract was up. This is the biggest lie that I EVER heard! The Temp agency pulls me out a few days before and says that the customer wasn’t paying the bill or they also say that ” there were some issues with my work” even though the customer though highly of me! Then it is another 4 or 5 months of waiting for another assignment that will even pay some what of half assed rate just so the game can start again!
        Then I thought that it was something about my looks. So I had weight loss surgery { I needed this to be done anyway } I had my teeth whitened, I had some moles cut off my face, and now color my hair every two or three weeks to appear to be younger. Nothing seems to work! I have toned down my personally a bit. I am an extrovert by nature. When I am working, I am so worried that I might say some dumb little thing to a female co-worker that I don’t really want to talk to them at all. I might be in hot water even though many of them cuss and swear so much it would make a sailor become embarrassed!
        I just hope that the Lord comes back soon!!

    • Jerry C

      I had a hard time getting a good paying job when interviewers noticed I didn’t finish college. Eventually, I buckled down & got my degree (at one time I had three jobs & less than three hours of sleep three times a week). I found out future employers like to see that you finish what you started. You have two persons: one is on paper (resume) & the other is in person (interview). Although I know you’d like to help your parents, you may be able to do that in the long run if you help yourself now. God bless you.

      • SunnyFlaSnotress

        He should start his own company and stop whining.

        • ONE WHO KNOWS

          It wouldn’t suprise me if you’re struggling too. You just don’t have the cojones to admit it.

          • Steeve Girard

            Of course she doesn’t, she’s a woman.

          • ONE WHO KNOWS

            Really? She swings so hard, mistook her for a man.

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            I do exercise.. I got a video called “Words of Steel” ::wink::

          • Steeve Girard

            Sound more like a Manowar album.

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            Struggling is relative. I am having a hard in time getting a realtor to respond to me about a cash offer on a short sale. I offered the asking price and would still go higher, but I am not hearing from the listing agent.
            But yes, I am really tired of renting and I’m struggling to be free.

    • Mark8076

      My brother got a degree in Education and a degree in Electrical Engineering. He abandoned those careers and started a one-man handyman business. He is now retired at age 53 living in a water-front home in Florida. Wealthy home owners in Florida were willing to pay a premium to have a clean-cut American boy work on their home.

      • SunnyFlaSnotress

        So your handyman brother is staying, but your DEA brother is leaving..

    • Rhino Horns

      You didn’t do anything to deserve this. Man is corrupt, as we were created this way by the Lord. Greedy men conspired to create the 3rd central bank of the United States, called the Federal Reserve, in order to control the money supply. And the ignorant and traitorous Congress and traitorous President Woodrow Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act into law in 1913. My advice to you is to cry out to the Lord your Creator for help, and stay in prayer to Him for guidance for yourself and your parents. God is orchestrating this whole situation, and all of our lives.

      • Steeve Girard

        Crying to your object of cult will not help. You have to stand, walk, and never look back. That’s the end of that chapter, on to the next.

      • GSOB

        “Man is corrupt, as we were created this way by the Lord.” –

        Nothing can be further from the truth.

    • Pavel

      Visit Dani Johnson seminar 1st Steps to Success and you will find not only answers, but key solutions for what to do with your life;) I’m flying to US at least once a year from Latvia approx 20 hours, so you don’t have any excuses;) God bless!

    • Lewis Conley

      move to the farm you will need to eat

    • Sam

      In my opinion, you should move to a different country if you can. Going to the rural or remote areas may not make much difference for you unless you possess survival skills and want to live off the grid, farming, etc.

      Your plight has my sympathy. Good paying jobs are becoming less all over U.S. Those who have the jobs are the fortunate ones. Some low wage mostly part-time jobs are now available. Free trade, unregulated immigration, Obumacare etc. took away the jobs.

    • Lazarovic

      Try the Foreign Legion…

      • Bill G Wilminton NC

        Go back to Russia………….

    • Hugo Schonhaar

      America left God a long time ago and is reaping the wirlwind. You also might check Obama’s foreign policy on Israel. Once a nation turns it’s back on God and Israel…look out! For a modern example of this look at the UK, they lost their empire in the 20th century FOR THESE VERY REASONS.

    • Willard Ferch

      You were born into a crooked and corrupt political and financial environment. It began many years ago with LBJ, an evil man of hubris. As with the typical Liberal, he thought he was smarter than God. Research enough, & you’ll find it all on the internet. I’m 77, and began doing what I could do by voting 56 years ago, and in the end, neither party can be trusted as far as you can throw them. The only safe have is the Lord, from my experience. Fiddlin

    • VegasBob

      The cost of living is far lower in rural America. In a lot of rural communities it doesn’t take much money to to survive. Even though rich liberal elites deride rural America as ‘flyover country’ there is a lot to be said for living in a small community, provided you have Internet access. I am 63 and live in a small town in southern Arizona, and I live like a king for about $20K a year (equivalent to a $10 hourly rate for a full-time 40 hour a week job). And of that $20K, $5K is my annual Obamacare premium, which goes away if I live to 65 and get on Medicare.

    • Cyber Revengeance

      The bad situation of your country is giving message that you must move to other fast developing country. Economy demands that employee must be ready to move to other locations to get a job. In this case people like you must move to other country. Go help develop other country which needs it and prosper in that country.

    • Ethan

      William,

      I can see where you are coming from and although I graduated from college, getting a good paying job isn’t guaranteed because most employers look at people either who they know or who one of their current employees know.

      When the economy goes splat EVERYONE will be affected, bankers, actors, athletes, and the average American. My current job may or may not be here.

      But I don’t fear because I believe that God will provide for mms and my family. He knows the plans he has for me and you too if you trust him. He only has plans to give you a hope and a future and not to harm you. (Jeremiah 29:11)

      Our only option is to believe in Jesus and to seek God.

  • Duh

    But cost of production in US is too damn high. How would anyone fix that?

    • Frank Frankson

      it’s already done….. called outsourcing 🙁

    • Steeve Girard

      It would cost less, but you have to remove middle mens…. In North America they tend have a lot of them between the product and the consumer.

  • Brian

    Just more confirmation that we must get right with our Heavenly Father ASAP! If our lives are right in God’s eyes then there will be no need to panic.God will show us the way.Pray,Discern and Prepare.

    • JustBill

      No, it’s proof that the stock market and financial markets are not healthy.
      But, I agree that we must prepare on all levels.

    • aldownunder

      Booooo

      • Brian

        This isn’t a sporting event or a contest.

        • aldownunder

          No, you just get booed for being the first one to start waffling on about God

          • Jacynthia Read

            …”the first one to start waffling on about God”

            Jesus and free gift of salvation is the only that matters in the long run. We should pray for one another and love one another.

          • GSOB

            Ephesians 3:14-19

            (NLT)

            Paul’s Prayer for Spiritual Growth

            When I think of all this, I fall to my knees and pray to the Father, the Creator of everything in heaven and on earth.

            I pray that from His glorious, unlimited resources, He will empower you with inner strength through His Spirit.

            Then Christ will make His home in your hearts as you trust in Him.
            (Jer. 17:9 9 “The heart is more deceitful than all else And is desperately sick;”)

            Your roots will grow down into God’s love and keep you strong.
            (Psalm 46:4 There is a river whose streams make glad the city of God, The holy dwelling places of the Most High.)

            And may you have the power to understand, as all God’s people should, how wide, how long, how high, and how deep His love is.

            May you experience the love of Christ, though it is too great to understand fully.

            Then you will be made complete with all the fullness of life and power that comes from God.

    • Jacynthia Read

      Amen. And encourage others so they may find courage and not fear no matter what happens.

      • SunnyFlaSnotress

        There is no god

        • GSOB

          Ephesians 2:21-22

          In Him the whole building is fitted together and grows into a holy temple in the Lord.

          And in Him you too are being built together into a dwelling place for God in His Spirit.

          John 1:14
          The Word became flesh and made His dwelling among us. We have seen His glory, the glory of the one and only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            Honestly GSOB, you spend too much time doing that when I don’t read it.

          • GSOB

            You keep saying that my God does not exist

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            hey.. it’s your time.. whatever.. just know that it doesnt get read by me

          • GSOB

            Our time is best spent reconciling to Him.

    • Steeve Girard

      And of course…. we have the cultists yapping around!

      • Brian

        Mr.Pentagram man,go back 2 your local occult store and purchase some more black candles and place them around your satanic altar and conjure up some more demons 2 further pollute your disturbed mind.

        • Steeve Girard

          Demons? Wrong religion man. Pagans do not believe in evil. The only religons that believe in evil and demons are the Abrahamic big three “wiener” cults and the non-philosophical Satanists cults.

    • SunnyFlaSnotress

      there is no god

      • James Staten

        1st Corinthians 15:1-4

        • SunnyFlaSnotress

          SunnyFlaSnotress 1:1 there is no god

          • Preacher62

            God is ALL there is. Without the creator nothing would exist.

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            there is no god

          • GSOB

            This is a good reason why we should, in all our difficulties, not only pray,
            but
            pray
            earnestly.

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            waste of brain power

          • GSOB

            God is good in Himself and faithful to every word that He has spoken.

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            there is no god

          • GSOB

            Ephesians 4:18

            They are darkened in their understanding and alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to the hardness of their hearts.
            ************

            Note that word “alienated”
            Denotes a hostility with the separation.

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            sure..you tell yourself that

          • GSOB

            Psalm 40:4
            How blessed is the man who has made the LORD his trust,

            And has not turned to the proud, nor to those who lapse into falsehood.…

          • GSOB

            So the Law became our guardian to lead us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

            Now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.

            You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.…

      • GSOB

        God,
        by His promise,
        offers Himself to us,
        to be trusted.

      • Steeve Girard

        you piled up enough +0.5 to have a +1

  • Kim

    I love Wolf Richter’s blog too. And his comments section is serious and intelligent- not a bunch of trolls arguing with each other like children.

    • ALWAYSTOMORROW

      In that case I think Wolf Richter’s blog would be a good fit for me.

      • Kim

        Lol

      • Jacynthia Read

        Me too. I understand what Michael is doing and why, but it does get difficult to have a informative conversation here and share experiences with like minded people.

        • SunnyFlaSnotress

          Yes, do run off.

          • GSOB

            John 6:57

            Just as the living Father sent Me and I live because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on Me will live because of Me.

    • SunnyFlaSnotress

      Best picture yet Kim, but I’m still not totally convinced… you know what I’m saying.

      • Kim

        Well at least u make me smile sometimes. :-p. Yeah I read that one too.

    • Horiboyable .

      Follow Wolf everyday. His stories have a lot of depth to them.

  • James Dohnalek

    Prepare……. For the end of life of all forms of life are near. Whales, dolphins, sardines by the millions are dying. Our time is coming soon.
    It is in the stars, an astronomical event, for which is gods plan.

    • Taris5036

      Does he say ‘how’ exactly? Or what date for this doomsday event? Is like the end of the world in the movie Knowing?

      • Jacynthia Read

        Read Matthew 24. It’s a good start. Then if you are up to it read Daniel beginning in about chapter 8 in conjunction with the Book of Revelation starting in chapter 4 and going forward. Also, 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 gives insight into who people are when the beginning of the rise of the Antichrist is near.

        • Taris5036

          Why not.

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            go.. for it

          • GSOB

            Exodus 15:2
            King James Version (KJV)

            The Lord is my strength and song, and He is become my salvation: He is my God, and I will prepare Him an habitation; my father’s God and I will exalt Him.

        • GSOB

          Fulfilled

    • Steeve Girard

      No they survived the dinosaurs, they will survive us.
      .
      We are ones who are in the greatest danger.

  • Robert

    I took a look for myself on the diesel locomotives parked outside of Benson, AZ. I was totally wrong on a previous comment. They are there and there is no sign they are going to move. The online pictures do not do the scene justice. Stunning is a good word for me in how it felt to see this sight. I hope to go back there soon with a better camera than my phone. I think my wife grasped for the first time what we have been discussing regarding the economy.

    I think it is way too late for most people to do anything regarding preparation. The govt is going to go “helicopter money” I think to head off civil unrest. The middle class is really going to shrink faster.

    • Steeve Girard

      As long the lights are on 24/7… neither Canada or America will collapse.

      • Taris5036

        That will depend on how many people can afford to pay the bill. Too many can’t and the power companies fail, then the lights go out.

    • SunnyFlaSnotress

      I saw freight trains moving. I was on my way back from a house showing in Tampa. It did however take a long time for it to stop blocking traffic. (not that it affected my decision about buying in the area)

  • Bill

    The best indicator to show that the collapse is under way will be restaurant and diner traffic. I’m still seeing busy parking lots at these establishments even though I’m sure many budgets are finding it harder to justify this luxury. Eating out, whether it’s surf and turf or toast and eggs, will be one of the last luxuries to be cut by most, but it will be one of the first to indicate the big one is here.

    • Robert

      Restaurant prices are nuts. A simple breakfast for two people is $25 give or take. I recall when a decent breakfast could be had for a couple of bucks with coffee. Yet I see families eating out and their bill has to be between 50 and 75 dollars. My wife and I can afford to eat out as often as we like but we rebel at the prices and the mediocre food.

      • Jacynthia Read

        Us too.

      • William Lutz

        I’m feeling the pain as well. The food prices are skyrocketing, even at my local Aldi. Today I bought a small jar of mixed nuts and it cost more than 10 bucks. That’s insane.

        • natxlaw

          where do you live? those sound like big city prices.

        • SunnyFlaSnotress

          You can get a small can of mixed nuts at DollarTree for $1.

          • Preacher62

            You can get a LARGE bag of nuts on this blog for free. People who do not believe in God, people who think politics is the answer, people who put their faith in money and material things……..NUTS! Jesus is the way the truth and the life.

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            there is no god and your nuts aren’t edible

          • GSOB

            Love and grace have, through the Spirit, great power to change and turn the heart to God.

          • GSOB

            Luke 9:59-60

        • disqus_LATgE14cG2

          Even when I was fully employed I wouldn’t spend $10 on a small can of nuts. Sounds like you have some screwed up priorities.

          • aldownunder

            Give him a break
            The world owes him

        • goldminer

          Try Family dollar. Just bought 8.5 oz Planters mixed nuts no peanuts $6.00. YUM.
          Ahh. Its nice to be a rich middle class person and live in a country, Thanks to Family Dollar, where you can afford a few luxuries in life.

      • Uzal Roberts

        Move! It’s what I did. My dollar goes further in Asia.

        • Lao Tzu

          But you make less dollar in Asia. There are full time software engineers working foress than a thousand dollars per month

          • Uzal Roberts

            No I don’t, Lao. My money comes from the US via PayPal and I pay US taxes. I’m a freelance writer and do not receive a dime from any Asia company.

          • Lao Tzu

            Good. Then you are arbitraging your American salary with Asian living cost. Although, I would say the living standard of Asia may not be worth it for most white people. If you like it, good for you.

        • Robert

          My wife still has her business. I am the retired one. As for moving to a different country I considered it but if a collapse comes and perhaps greenbacks are no good (extreme scenario) then I do not want to be stranded in a non English speaking country. Hope u do well.

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            There’s a higher chance that the other country’s currency would plummet before the US dollar.

          • Uzal Roberts

            Robert, I understand your concern. The Filipino speak English and their native tongues.

      • Steeve Girard

        We all do.

      • ONE WHO KNOWS

        I love in the Philadelphia area. Stopped by the mall over the weekend. As I was strolling Macy’s I noticed how empty the store was. I was checking out some Coach handbags. One Bag in particular was originally priced $400.00 dollars. Then was dropped down to $300.00 then $200.00 and finally $125.00. That’s dirt cheap for an high-end fashion and designer, name brand.

        • ONE WHO KNOWS

          Oops typo: I live in the Philadelphia area.

  • Taris5036

    The Second Great Depression will follow the upcoming recession.

    • Steeve Girard

      This recession happens at the recuperative stage of the economic cycle… it will not be as bad as it was between August and January. In about 6 years you see a very sharp shock. That will be worry some.

    • natxlaw

      I call it “the Greater Depression” but I found out other folks were already calling it that.

      • goldminer

        How about Epocalypse Now.

        • Steeve Girard

          How about: The end of the Age of Oil?

    • SunnyFlaSnotress

      Bilge

      • Taris5036

        You wish.

        • SunnyFlaSnotress

          BolderDash

          • Taris5036

            Nope.

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            Rubbish

          • Taris5036

            Nope.

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            Tripe

          • Taris5036

            I hope your right.

          • JustBill

            Yuck, tripe is horrible

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            I know.. and I like liver and squid

          • goldminer

            So does my cat

      • GSOB

        John 17:20-22
        I am not asking on behalf of them alone, but also on behalf of those who will believe in Me through their message,
        that all of them may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I am in You.
        May they also be in Us,
        so that the world may believe that You sent Me.
        I have given them the glory You gave Me, so that they may be one as We are one…

    • Jerry C

      Great Depression 2.0

  • Willard Ferch

    We’re raising a huge garden again this year, and we can & freeze a great deal of vegetables. Even that isn’t enough if all the relatives come here, but with a granary full of wheat and cows in the hills, it beats the city situation all hollow. Just today we drove 70 miles one way to shop, as there are no grocery stores within 40 miles. The Lord impressed on me to store food about 6 years ago, and we moved to the farm three years ago. It was a very good move!! Folks reading this might decide to head for the farm, also. Real good idea! We pack a lunch to town, as a 35 cent hamburger now costs $4.50 or more…(showing my age a little bit there.) The best advice is to listen to the Holy Spirit, then act. Fiddlin

    • Mike Smithy

      Willard, I am intrigued as to why you end all of your posts with the word “Fiddlin”. What is the significance and meaning behind that word?

      • Willard Ferch

        When I was in the Navy back in the ’50s, my fellow hillbillies tacked that on me, as I played the mandolin & guitar. After that, I began playing the fiddle, wife played the guitar, and we played many dances & nightclubs. We became Christians in ’72 so stopped that. I’ve played in numerous contests and won the Montana State championship 3 times. Fiddlin Ferch sounded cool, so I kept the nickname. Fiddlin

    • Jacynthia Read

      Dry food too and vacuum pack them in Mason jars with an oxygen absorber. We use an Excalibur Dehydrator and a Food Saver vacuum sealer. We also sun dry vegetables and fruits. For herbs you ties those in bunches and hand them upside down until dried and then chop and add to Mason jars and vacuum pack with oxygen absorber. They will last for years.

      • Willard Ferch

        Great info. I’ll put it to good use. Thanks much. Fiddlin

    • SunnyFlaSnotress

      WALMART DOT COM
      They will ship non-perishable food & goods to your door for free if you order over $50 worth.
      The free boxes you get with that tend to be very sturdy too.

      • Willard Ferch

        There is conjecture of such an upheaval that the trucks stop rolling. If that happens, Walmart has no food. And many claim there is hyper- inflation coming, then that $50 may be $500 dollars. I hope they’re all wrong! Good luck. Fiddlin

    • Jerry C

      Long-term food storage in food-grade buckets, 2000cc oxygen absorber & heat-sealed (rice, beans) can last 20-30 years; for us city dwellers.

      • Willard Ferch

        That’s great! A huge supply of Juice Plus, might go a long way towards providing a balanced diet. Fiddlin

  • Uzal Roberts

    I moved to the Philippines after the last recession and when Obama was elected. Why? I can really stretch my dollars.

    For example, I rent a 2 bedroom home (850 sq ft) on the beach at $110 a month. My water bill is $6 a month and my electric is $44 a month. My average food bill per month for two people is $153. My Internet, although slow, comes to $21 a month.

    My salary averages approximately $1,500 a month as a part time freelance writer. I also received disability from the VA monthly.

    At the end of the month I have saved approximately $1,000.Better yet, I am not vulnerable to crime, high prices dining out, and gasoline is cheap.

    I will not be returning to the U.S. It was good while it lasted.

    • natxlaw

      You want to plug some of your freelance writing?

      • Uzal Roberts

        I don’t need any, thank you. I am comfortable with the clients I have and my part time status. I like to spend my idle time on the beach.

    • SunnyFlaSnotress

      Nice to know..
      Have any women raped you yet? I hear it happens
      And what happens if the currency implodes. It’s been know to happen, too.

      • Taris5036

        Do you ever go to the comments on Infowars?

        • SunnyFlaSnotress

          I check their site, but I don’t find it very interesting.

          • Taris5036

            What about Bloomberg?

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            nope.. i dont like big blogs.. this one’s nice & cozy

          • Taris5036

            It has its moments. Infowars can have crappy articles too.

          • GSOB

            Titus 3:4-5

            But when the kindness of God our Savior and His love for mankind appeared,
            He saved us,

            not by the righteous deeds we had done, but according to His mercy,

            through the washing of new birth and renewal by the Holy Spirit.…

      • Uzal Roberts

        I live in a peaceful area, Sunny. I believe under the newly elected Philippines president (Dutarte) that all will be okay, but as goes the U.S., so goes the Philippines. While I am not fully prepared, I am working towards that end.

    • jakartaman

      Lived in Makarti for 4 years
      Love the weather, people and beaches!

  • DizzOU08

    The reset is mathematically inevitable. You can try to rationalize until you starve, but it will only prolong what cannot be stopped. Your best bet, is to prepare, like your ancestors did. Unfortunately, we have gotten away from self preservation, and relied on others to do it for us, and the result will not be a happy ending. You can make all of the excuses you want, but it will not be palatable.

    • SunnyFlaSnotress

      I will venture to guess that you are calculating the reset as if America exists in a vacuum and no other countries owe us money and that their currencies are certainly going to hold up while ours supposedly doesn’t.

  • Horiboyable .

    Michael you are very correct. The recession began in the last quarter of 2515. Michael, you are also correct that this will be more severe than 2008 for a range of reasons but most of them because of our central planners have got it so wrong. Firstly demographics, baby boomers that caused such a prolonged period of prosperity have reached the stage where they are retiring in large numbers and will stop paying taxes. NIRP & ZIRP have caused pension funds to have very large holes in their funds so we will have a pension crisis in the future because most pension funds were modelled. NIRP & ZIRP has resulted in so much misallocated capital that will blow up when the recession starts to bite. Company share prices are a direct result of buy backs and other financial engineering trickery that will unwind then blow up when folks realise what a large risk the bond market is. There will be company and sovereign defaults on bonds globally. I have done what I can to protect me and my family and I can do no more. In the future when people realise how corrupt the ruling elites have been and what a mess they have created and these folks begin to lose everything they own there will be civil unrest or war. It will be easy to stoke up the Ukraine fire again. I would not like to be a French Politician over the next five years. This is going to be a global melt down so we can all expect less freedom and liberty, looks like Friedrich von Hayek was right after all.

  • jox

    They change the calculation of GDP, so I think we will never see a recession again, even if every indicator shows that economy is slowing.

  • JohnB

    We as a society need to strengthen our own individual sustainability, and we need to do it right now! Our grandparents were experts at this stuff and we need to re-learn how to grow our own food and or livestock, repurpose a room in the house into a small greenhouse or a patch of lawn into a garden and grow food, leave the car at home a few days a week if you can, fix or repair or buy used rather than buy new. Be resilient in the face of hard times and raise a few chickens or grow fish to eat. Stop feeling the dread and start feeling the rush of self-sufficiency! Try to live without a few things…get small! Get tough! Survive…

    • El mico

      But society says that I’m an incomplete person if I don’t buy lots of useless crap.

  • SunnyFlaSnotress

    The_ass? I’m the SALT OF THE EARTH

    • Hugo Schonhaar

      When a dude has a scary profile pic like this, you just know he’s a wimp.

      • SunnyFlaSnotress

        I’m female ..Snotress is feminine form.
        whatdya know

        • Hugo Schonhaar

          There’s nothing feminine about your comments, much less your “form”…

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            i’m not here to act girly for you

          • retired22

            Are you one of those transgender bathroom crashers?

          • Steeve Girard

            Ok… that exceeds the boundary of respect and decency. -1

          • retired22

            Who are you,…some saint?

          • Steeve Girard

            No, I have respect for life in all it’s forms, being transgender is not a sickness, nor against Nature, nor it is “Ungodly” in the Christian sense.

          • retired22

            What did I start with?

            How do they all find me?

            Please Saint Girard,…forget that you ever heard of me,..I am only a mere mortal blinded by your brilliance!

          • Steeve Girard

            Wrong religion, i am Pagan.

          • retired22

            A pagan?
            and here I thought you were a fruitcake!

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            you try to make up for the limpness in your life

          • retired22

            Sunny,…who is your dentist….Doctor Frankenstein?

          • Steeve Girard

            Here’s a song appropriate to the situation and article!

            YouTube v=JA6kPrXpCK4

          • Brian

            He believes in many god’s, just not the 1 True God.

          • retired22

            What did I get involved in?
            I thought this was a site discussing economics & finance.
            How did I fall into a revival meeting?

          • Steeve Girard

            I think you twisted it with Sunny.

          • retired22

            I am being sarcastic with this character,…I don’t really take her seriously.
            She is not worth serious consideration.
            the people I really relate to are people like this person Lutz who is a real person who has real concerns,….to me he is worth consideration!

          • Brian

            They love 2 provoke.Then they twist everything around.Their very cunning.But I will still Pray for them.

          • Steeve Girard

            You have a whole range of people here, the main bulk being Christians. You do have a few Jews, one or two Muslims, a good lot of Agnostics, Seculars and Atheists, The few seats left are the Sunday Satanist and the Pagan.

          • retired22

            What has that to do with economics & finance?
            I don’t disrespect anyone’s spirituality but there is a time for everything & this is an economic blog!

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            retired22: “Are you one of those transgender bathroom crashers?”

          • Steeve Girard

            Good effort, but not quite that. Thinking you are Abrahamic, I really think it is a good effort.

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            didnt i have these verbal jousts before w/you old limpdik

          • retired22

            You play with diks?
            are you sure you don’t mean dykes?

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            get your hand away from your pants or go to a different site

          • retired22

            I am having too much fun listening to you!

        • retired22

          If you are a female & look like this I can understand why you are mad at the world,…you have my condolences!

          • SunnyFlaSnotress

            i don’t need your.. anything..
            nor do i want it

    • Ricardo

      Salt is flavoring and you are not that. You are putrid through and through. Snot nose.

      • SunnyFlaSnotress

        That’s not nice BeanerBrain

  • SunnyFlaSnotress

    She.. Snotress is feminine form. you just don’t understand me

  • Richard O. Mann

    Looks like the economy is shaking along with the earth. Earthquakes still popping all around the globe daily. So many things to watch right now, you sometimes get dizzy trying.

    • SunnyFlaSnotress

      i liked your picture avatar better

      • Richard O. Mann

        Getting to be about time to change again. I try to put up a new picture ever week or two. Thanks for the like. I’ll see what I have that I can recycle.

  • RICH99

    It’s not that bad everywhere !! Sod areas are doing well

  • jsmith

    It’s interesting that those at the top, or those that are employed don’t really care for those that are unemployed, calling them losers and unmotivated. But let me explain. I have a cousin who is very bright, 64 years old who has always been able to find a job, the penultimate time in Michigan for General Motors having something to do with the programming of the dash in the Cadillac, and then last year in Oregon or Washington in some tech company. Since his term was finished, he moved back to his 1.2 million house that he had rented for 2 years to someone else. He still owes $400k of $500K that he had to give his ex-wife after the divorce a few years back, but at least he kept the house here in Orange County CA. Now he’s in an empty house in front of his 4 or 5 monitors looking for work. I’m sure he will find work as he is very bright, but then again it might take him a while longer because, number one he is older and you never know if a 30 year old interviewer is going to give an old fart of 64 a job, or number 2 if companies are even hiring in the tech industry. He mentioned something about applying to a Tesla like company from China. Hopefully he will get the job, but he still believes that everyone should have a job. Everyone should be as smart as he is. Does it remind you of someone? Maybe not as bad as snotress!

  • James King

    If this is a recession, then I wouldn’t wish for anything else. Friends and family have good jobs. Food on the table. New cars in the garage. Future looks bright.

  • William Lutz

    I’m not from Venezuela. My mom and her family is. I was born here in Orlando, FL.

    • Guest

      Thanks for clarifying. I used to live in Occoee many years ago. My parents had friends in Winter Garden. I don’t remember much, though, I was quite young. That was the year Hurricane David took a passing swipe.

  • Ex Tempus

    …become a Roman Catholic priest!….six days off and double time on Sundays!!!!!!!!….hee haw, hee haw!

  • Lunatic

    Are you people insane? We are in big big trouble. And we don’t have time for this nonsense anymore. We need solutions to these problems. Not more bickering back and forth. Time is running out people.

  • arobinson

    I truly have enjoyed your article. I have been following the indexes for about 2 yrs. and began to write in 2013 concerning a slowing economy and an economy who’s growth has been artificially stimulated to the tune of the 2006 recession by the expansion of credit, low interest rates, monetary and fiscal policy, low wage growth and an economy. Like yourself I track Trucking ration to loads because trucking delivers 70% of all goods and services and one or our largest employers, rail and shipping accounts for the other 30% and all there have been showing declining growth and higher truck availability to loads, not because there are no truck to carry the tonnage, but because the economy has slowed to a trickle.

  • nottoday

    Well I hate to bust your bubble. But I live in the Energy Corridor in Houston. Anything south of I-10 the foreclosures have begun.

  • JC Teecher

    The old saying…”the chickens have come home to roost”, is in full effect.
    Most Americans will not even see it until it on their doorstep.

    • DaveHolden

      True for the Boomers who have always been obtuse.

  • DaveHolden

    We should cut back. We would instantly save billions AND stop making enemies around the world by ending the burden of aid to Israel. What possible reason could someone oppose this? End those wars we are fighting for them and the savings is in the trillions.

  • Timothy Patterson

    You all don’t know the worst part. Just like the bad mortgage debt being rolled into securities, falsely rated AAA then, sold to investment and retirement funds that lead to the 2007 mess, we now have 4 times the bad debt being remarked the same way in bad auto loans and credit card debt. There is no sector not affected by this. Public and private business will lose half their retirement and corporations with vested retirement funds will lose most of it!

  • justinwachin

    If the economy takes a noticeable tumble this fall, like it did in 2008, it could cause problems for Hillary Clinton. She has embraced the Obama agenda and that may be enough to link her to the economic decline.

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