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War On The Homeless: Cities All Over America Are Passing Laws Making It Illegal To Feed And Shelter Those In Need

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homeless-man-public-domainIf you want to be a “Good Samaritan” to the homeless in your community, you might want to check and see if it is legal first.  All over the country, cities are passing laws that make it illegal to feed and shelter the homeless.  For example, in this article you will read about a church in Maryland that was just fined $12,000 for simply allowing homeless people to sleep outside the church at night.  This backlash against homeless people comes at a time when homelessness in America is absolutely exploding.  In a previous article, I shared with my readers the fact that the number of homeless people in New York City has just set a brand new all-time high, and the homelessness crisis in California has become so severe that the L.A. City Council has formally asked Governor Jerry Brown to declare a state of emergency.  Sadly, instead of opening up our hearts to the rapidly growing number of Americans without a home, way too many communities are trying to use the law to force them to go somewhere else.

For nearly two thousand years, churches have been at the forefront of helping the poor and disadvantaged, but now many communities are trying to stop this from happening.  Earlier today, I was absolutely stunned when I came across an article that talked about how a church in Dundalk, Maryland has been fined $12,000 for allowing the homeless to sleep outside the church at night…

“I showed up Wednesday morning to find a citation on the door that said we’re going to be fined $12,000 and have a court date because we have unhoused homeless people sleeping outside the church at night,” said Reverend Katie Grover with the Patapsco United Methodist Church.

Grover added that the men and women who sleep outside their doors do so because they have nowhere else to go and because they feel safe there.

“We feel we here as a church that it’s scriptural mandate that’s it an imperative to care for the least, the last, the lost, the poor, the hungry,” she said.

The authorities in Dundalk say that the church is running a “non-permitted rooming and boarding house”, and the severity of this fine is likely to put the church in significant financial difficulty if it is forced to pay it.  You can watch a local news report discussing this story on YouTube right here

Of course Dundalk is far from alone.  All across the U.S. laws have been passed that specifically target the homeless.  According to the National Coalition for the Homeless, the following are some of the most typical ways that the homeless are targeted…

  • Carrying out sweeps (confiscating personal property including tents, bedding, papers, clothing, medications, etc.) in city areas where homeless people live.
  • Making panhandling illegal.
  • Making it illegal for groups to share food with homeless persons in public spaces.
  • Enforcing a “quality of life” ordinance relating to public activity and hygiene.

There are some people that have been feeding the hungry for decades that now find that their work has been suddenly made illegal.  For instance, down in Houston a Good Samaritan named Jay Hamberger is outraged that the help that he has been providing to the homeless for 27 years has now made him an outlaw

Jay Hamberger has been bringing food to Houston’s homeless for 27 years. He feels the city is infringing on his right to help others by requiring him to have prior permission to distribute food on public and private property.

“I’ve done it with impunity for 27 years now, and I’m the most law-abiding outlaw, because what I’m doing is illegal,” Hamberger said. “My understanding is that there’s no legal way to make this right with the city.”

This is just another example of how our society is being strangled to death by control freaks.

If I see someone that is desperately hungry and I want to give that person food, then I am going to do it no matter what the law says.

Unfortunately, as the homelessness crisis continues to escalate these types of laws are only going to increase.  Even in supposedly “tolerant” areas of the country we are seeing draconian measures being implemented.  For example, just check out the new ordinance that was just passed in Los Angeles

LA legislators passed an ordinance that would ban people from sleeping in cars and recreational vehicles (RVs) near homes, parks and schools. Advocates see the ordinance as the latest move to criminalize homeless people.

The Los Angeles City Council voted in favor of the ordinance on Wednesday. Banning people from sleeping near homes, schools and parks in their vehicles, would, if signed into law, only make it legal to sleep overnight in cars and RV’s in industrial or commercial districts from 9:00pm to 6:00am.

As millions of Americans have fallen out of the middle class in recent years, we have seen an explosion in the number of people living in cars, trucks and recreational vehicles.  This is something that I addressed in my recent article entitled “Living In A Van Down By The River – Time To Face The True State Of The Middle Class In America“.  During this time of the year many that live in their vehicles head for warmer climates, and cities like Los Angeles are responding to the influx of homeless people by trying to force them to go somewhere else.

And this “war on the homeless” has actually been ramping up for quite a while.  Just check out these numbers from the Washington Post

Cities have enacted a wave of crackdowns and new laws against panhandling, camping and other activities associated with homelessness. They say such efforts help preserve the renewed vitality, curbing crime, health problems and behaviors that bother residents and disrupt business.

Between 2011 and 2014, the National Law Center on Homelessness & Poverty found that bans on sleeping in cars shot up 119 percent, citywide camping prohibitions jumped 60 percent, anti-loitering laws increased 35 percent and anti-begging laws increased 25 percent in a survey of 187 cities.

Homeless people do not have a permanent address, and there is always a temptation to try to force them to go somewhere else so that they become someone else’s problem.

But the truth is that we have a massive national crisis on our hands.  The number of homeless children in this country has increased by 60 percent since the end of the last recession, and the number of homeless people sleeping in shelters has risen to record levels in major cities on both the east and west coast.

And considering the fact that about two-thirds of the country is currently living paycheck to paycheck, how bad will things get once the next major recession strikes?

Poverty is growing all over the nation, and at the same time hearts all over America are growing very cold.

I truly fear for what this country is going to look like just a few years from now.

 
  • ALWAYSTOMORROW

    It doesn’t appear much has changed from now back to May 14th, 2014 when you wrote basically the same article titled “Cities All Over America Are Becoming Extremely Cruel To The Homeless. “

    • anonymous

      Don’t sweat it. Michael is going green by recycling his stories.

      • Jerry C

        Better Michael’s green than the LSM black.

    • Ronald

      Hey Mr. Tomorrow, picked up some almond Danish this morning from the bakery, Yes they are delish with hot black coffee. Please continue with bakery tips. Thanx

      • LIZ THE SHIZ

        is that you Ronald McDonald , love your McOpinons

        • Ronald

          Inside joke Liz. Yes you are a shiz, 4-sure.

          • LIZ THE SHIZ

            I sense some of your Snodt humor

      • ALWAYSTOMORROW

        Catch my show “Baking With A.T.” on the Food Network, Sundays at 3:00 AM.

    • FireHope

      I think it is because the ‘Italian Job’ has not resulted in a domino affect and the markets have gone up considerably. Therefore, two quick articles had to be produced to get that one off the front page ASAP

  • BS1986

    In Houston they are clearing them out stealing and throwing away their stuff and putting them in jail.

  • Schteven

    My sister in Fort Worth used to hand out food in the parks, but she has to have a permit now to just and out sandwiches. Some places (parks) do not allow handing out food with or without a permit. Tent cities are getting bigger as well.

    • lostinthevalley

      I’ve noticed some in L.A. leave out food –like a bag of sandwiches–on park benches, at bus stops or other obvious places.

      • Lennie Pike

        Drone delivery drops from low altitude for those Good Samaritans afraid of being arrested, or of resisting arrest, or of refusing arrest.

  • max gon

    This is part of the Obama legacy.

    • TellMeImDreaming

      That’s quite brainless. But apparently incredibly effective.

    • cactuspie

      Exactly what did Obama have to do with this?

      • Willard Ferch

        To find out, study the history of money, the Fed, various ideologies, gov. spending and policies, such as welfare and its effect on the black family & the country, and and study the effects of debt on countries and people. Find where Obama’s stimulus money really went. You’ll find it made the rich richer. Find out the real figures on jobs & unemployment. Obama bears plenty of the blame, but no more than congress, the senate, & several presidents before him, and above all, the citizens themselves—voters. There is no excuse for ignorance with all the research material at our finger tips. Good luck. In friendliness, Fiddlin

        • cactuspie

          Am familiar with all you mentioned. So the answer is nothing directly.

      • Andy

        Did you mean what didn’t he have to do with this. You would have to have our head up your a_ _ to not see what Obama has done to destroy this nation.

        • cactuspie

          I see the adult conversation is over.

          • Andy

            It never began. I was always talking to a child. A confused one at that.

          • cactuspie

            Thanks for proving my point.

          • Andy

            There was plenty of proof before I came along.

          • cactuspie

            “All” I did was simply ask the original question giving you the opportunity to back up your claim. How is that fighting? If there was plenty of proof, it should have been easy to offer up one example. Not everyone reads all the same things you do. But rather than offer a single example you went for the personal insults. And continue to. I don’t believe you are a child but your response was the type children use when asked for specifics about a seemingly outrageous statement. They stammer and squirm and respond with name calling. I’m still open to evidence but so far you got nothing.

          • Andy

            I’m not the one who made the original claim(your alleged question was a statement…don’t try to kid anybody)… YOU were! Provide evidence. My initial comment was equivalent to saying, ‘objection….hearsay…place any admissible evidence into the record.’

          • cactuspie

            Oh Andy. Let’s see, I originally asked max gone what Obama (and I’m no fan of the man) had to do with the war on the homeless which we both referred to as “this”. You came back with a question without a question mark that I’m was supposed to interpret as a demand for proof of the negative of which you, as a contestant, would also get to be the judge regarding it being hearsay or admissible, even though this is a public forum of opinion and views and not a court of law. Then before I could even respond to the same post with the encrypted non-question question, you threw in an insult and shifted the topic to destroying the nation, again with nothing to back it up, be it hearsay, admissible or otherwise. My “adult conversation” comment was a bit snarky but clearly aimed at your response and not you as a person which I later clarified. As opposed to your “head up your a_ _”, “child”, “confused”, “childish attacks”and “idiot” which reasonable people don’t call each other. You took the position against Obama for destroying the nation so that’s where the onus of proof lies. Even so, I’ll offer this for starters re. the original subject. Don’t know if they allow links to be posted here so Google “obama war on the homeless” to read more or specifically “nytimes Obama Will Seek $11 Billion for Homeless Families”. I can’t respond to ‘destroy this nation’ since you didn’t even mention in what way it’s destroyed. Not seeing any destruction where I live but please enlighten me. Now if you want to talk about full completion of campaign promises, no argument, and I’d defy anyone to show any politician who’s ever fulfilled all their campaign promises. You should say what you mean and not read other things into peoples’ comments. However calling names (which you haven’t defended at all) when someone might disagree with you, the all caps “YOU” and your sense of equivalency were quite convincing.

  • Brian

    I humbly/desperately pray that circumstances will improve for the homeless and the less fortunate in this land that i no longer recognize!

  • Mondobeyondo

    I’ve been homeless recently.
    To quote an often used phrase among the youth, “The struggle is real”.

    • Guest

      I’m really sorry to hear that. Are you in need of a job?

  • DJohn1

    The sad thing is these same people displacing the homeless may some day be homeless themselves and then how will they act?
    There is a lot of meaning here. There but for the grace of God go I.
    I know where these rich folk are coming from. It is basically fear that these people will rob or even murder to get enough to eat.
    These same cities are welcoming strangers called illegal immigrants with open arms. Go figure.
    Ironically, they should fear these immigrants more than their own poor.

  • billtheguy

    Better label your lunch, so the cops don’t think it’s a handout. You’ll go to jail because they think someone gave you the food!

  • Lennie Pike

    If they pass a law making it illegal to feed yourself and your family, which at this point is not farfetched – would you obey it?

    We have to realize just what type of people we are up against here people, and the war is on in every arena. All people are equal and the same except for one thing that distinguishes them and causes them to be as different as day and night: “You are either for me or against me” – Jesus Christ (God).

    • Lennie Pike

      At this point it’s not only war on the homeless – those against Him are at war with and in full attack mode against anyone who is for Him.

      The attack actually began 2017 years ago when His disciples were commanded to now go out and sell your cloaks and buy swords.

      • Lennie Pike

        .223 is the modern day equivalent. You’re going to need it, and self defense against 100% evil is no sin.

  • Lennie Pike

    Probably not one single illegal alien or work visa alien in the U.S. is homeless. National borders and sovereignty must be destroyedecause they must destroyed for thesatanic world government to be implemented. We now see it worldwide. It is the main reason I am against immigration.

    Probably not a single one of these immigrants was
    homeless in their own country either, so them being allowed into the U.S. has created new pain and destruction (the ultimate goal of the satanists implementing one world goverment) that did not exist before.

    • SnodtBlossom

      “Probably not one single illegal alien or work visa alien in the U.S. is homeless”
      oh really..

      • MeMadMax

        When was the last time you heard of homeless immigrants?

        • SnodtBlossom

          they’re just a google away
          “Far From Family, Alone, Homeless and Still Just 18”
          http://www.nytimes DOTcom/2012/02/26/us/of-young-immigrants-who-arrive-alone-many-end-up-homeless-in-chicago DOThtml

          • Coastal Oregon Gal

            Then ship them home where they belong.

          • Andy

            Most of these immigrants chose to be here. And by the way, give us a legitimate source. The NYT is all fake news aimed at a dizzy audience.

        • Lindsay Tisch

          Maybe we aren’t homeless because unlike you Americans, we actually work.

          • MeMadMax

            LOL! Noob! GTFO, I want SMART trolls and libtards, not a freakin noob!

            sigh… If only the good ol’ days were here again when obama first got elected and all the smart libtards were still around….

      • Lennie Pike

        Then they should claim the benefits available to them (just like in every other developed “nation”) that are in part paid for by homeless and unemployed citizens, and distributed to homeless immigrants by the world government that has taken over the U.S. Goverment through the use of it’s (not America’s) fiat money – or maybe I should have said -distributed to the one and only ignorant homeless immigrant.

        That was the last time I will respond to any of your posts.

        • SnodtBlossom

          there is no god

  • MeMadMax

    This is one reason why I have always said that if I end up homeless, I’ll be building a bunker in the forest.

    • Steven

      If laws work only sometimes then they are not laws but are instead legal theories.

  • aliceinwonder

    Tar and feather the mayor and city counsel of these cities.

  • K

    James 2:13 There will be no mercy for those who have not shown mercy to others. But if you have been merciful, God will be merciful when he judges you. Those who pass such laws will be shown no mercy. Be careful you do not vote for such people. For you will be included in their judgement.

  • Paul Vosper

    If I chose to feed someone in need that my right !!! this story shows me how heartless this country ( usa ) has become . also “CHRISTMAS IS CHRISTMAS ,and not just a HOLIDAY ” So screw your Holiday, and say MERRY CHRISTMAS !!!!!!!!!!!.

    • Beth

      The Catholic Church is the FIRST place to look for help. I don’t know where you get your information. Christians are taking care of others…….rest assured.

      • Lennie Pike

        The Salvation Army is right up there.

  • CASTIEL

    This is incredible…..when they get desesperate and starting to fight or kill for food….then we will see…..

  • christina

    So effectively homelessness is considered illegal! Great! So of course that MUST mean all those on the streets actually want to be there and enjoy being hungry and cold right?

  • jakartaman

    It just another spear in the fight to eradicate religion in our country
    Charity has beeen and I hope always be a big part of the American culture
    Obama is a disgrace.

    • rdzk

      Who needs religion of killing their own?

  • South Texas

    In addition to the corrupt monetary system which it makes everyone worse off, the formation of jobs needs to stop being criminalized. Abolishing minimum wage and getting government out of the employee/employer relationship.

    • rdzk

      Yea, go live in s 3rd wcountry– no minimum wage and die.

      • South Texas

        So what company have you started that employees people paying what they need? Mandating something does not work either. A minimum wage only makes those services costlier for others.

  • nohomehere

    “For nearly two thousand years, churches have been at the forefront of
    helping the poor and disadvantaged, but now many communities are trying
    to stop this from happening.”

    Just to clarify churches are a gathering or group of christians , and they are also the members of the community as long as you see these community leaders use the law to justify , promote , wreak havoc and bring chaos with their ultimate goal to call for the global rule of laws to be applied a United nations ploy to undermine and usarp our sovereignty!

    The spirit of antichrist has existed for more than two thousand years Micheal and laws have been the instigator of unspeakable destruction and horrible injury to peoples as Jesus told the ( the scribs and pharasee that they hid behind law or the misuse of the law to disregarde the intent of the law and for that reason God was going to remove them from the face of the earth as a nation ~ Many times Jesus shew us the father in having compassion on the poor and the infirm in public and private property!

    So today the community leaders and so called lawmakers would probably try to put Jesus in Jail or fine him if he were here today, but wait , Jesus said they would do it to his deciples , so I guess it will come to the persecution that we all are expecting, the great tribulation and the war against the saints!

    Hebrews 10:34
    You sympathized with those in prison and joyfully accepted the confiscation
    of your property, knowing that you yourselves had a better and
    permanent possession.
    If you truly are a saint of Christ. In your struggle against sin, you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood.

    Matthew 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: …

    Revelation 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with …

    Revelation 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of …
    II cor. 5: 6-10
    6 Therefore we are always confident and know that as long as we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord.
    7 For we live by faith, not by sight.
    8We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord.
    9 So we make it our goal to please him, whether we are at home in the body or away from it.
    10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body,
    whether good or bad.

    trying to justify mercy you become a judge of the law typical lawyer mind !

    14For here we do not have a {permanent city} no home here, but we are looking for the {city} home ,that is to come.

    nohomehere attitude will free you to do good to your neighbor no matter the consiquence, and please don’t ask , who is my neighbor!

  • LIZ THE SHIZ

    let the eugenics begin, whose next??

  • leebo

    Anyone notice there are no comment sections on cnbc articles

    • rentslave

      It must be my fault.They banned me some time ago.

    • greanfinisher .

      What did you expect from a mainstream news medium?

      • leebo

        It’s not what I expect, I’ve learned not to expect anything but rather make observations. To me everything is about timing bc the time in which an event takes place regardless if it expected or not can give you a clue or insight as to the cause of the event. And also just bc you expect something to happen bc of your reason (X) does not mean that it occurred bc of reason (X). Learned that one the hard way as well.

    • Jerry C

      Good god man! You still go there?!

      • leebo

        Lol I’m always looking for changes and cues, it would appear the newest ‘glitch’ is cnbc called it quits in moderating their comment section. Huge tell if you ask me

  • greanfinisher .

    I aided one homeless person a few years ago. What did I get in return? Well, my home was broken into, and ransacked some time later.

    • ALWAYSTOMORROW

      ADT.
      DVR.

    • SnodtBlossom

      Yes,.. many are drug addicted scammers

      • mtntrek3

        Hi Sunny. I have to admit it, as you say several of these out here are druggies. Now……. did their habits begin before or after their encounter with desperate times? I’d say both in various percentages. There are many things playing into the homeless scenario. As Michael states, the economic downturn is a big element among others. There are those that are trying to do better but are facing serious misfortunes in life. Then, as I said in my own experience with a relative of mine (read my previous comments) …… there are those that are digging a hole for themselves and are their own worst enemy. Personally, I’m concerned for all of them. The ones that have a way in this world and are p*ssing it away are the ones to stay away from imho. Yet, I’m still concerned with them and pray that they will turn their life around before it’s too late. My take on the matter. …… God first. Take care. Chris.

      • greanfinisher .

        Oh, I can certainly believe it.

    • mtntrek3

      I’m sorry to hear about that seriously. You did what you could. Best wishes to you and your family. Chris.

    • L. A. McDonough

      If people want to help, give to the food bank or directly to a mission or church that feeds people. Many are substance abusers and enjoy the homeless lifestyle, have no desire for a normal life. Way back, I rem. hobos hopped freight rail cars and went into towns, worked for awhile, went town to town, living in rail cars sometimes for days when an old steam engine train parked near my aunts house across the river. No way people now would be allowed to do this as rail cars are locked. They must have stayed in cheap hotels then while working. No work ethic today, that’s a given.

      • greanfinisher .

        That may be easier said than done, and especially in the city where I live. Sometimes, one can’t even get into the car without being solicited by one of them for money. When I ignored one such request as I was getting into the car, my payroll check and other mail were robbed from my mail box the following day. I didn’t learn about it until one of the residents found my mail scattered on her yard a few blocks away, and promptly notified the police. Of course, the payroll check was missing, and the culprit also scrounged for money in the Christmas cards that were contained in the mail. These people also used to loiter around the area gas stations soliciting for money (before the station attendants finally cracked down), and they typically stand next to freeway exits entering the city. At one time, as I was passing under a freeway overpass located in the city, I could easily see 8 of them huddled together under the structure. Based on my unpleasant experiences with that bunch, I really don’t have any regard at all for the homeless, nor will I contribute anything to a food bank or mission.

  • retired22

    It is really ironic that the left of center kumbaya crowd that says they fight to the end to protect the well being of illegals in ‘sanctuary cities’ don’t give a damn about Americans who are down & out!
    Evidently there is no political profit in the cause of poor homeless Americans!

    • Jerry C

      Of course, when they say that they want to pay for the well being of illegals, they mean with your tax dollars.

    • A.S.

      No, the left is evil. Those people are evil. If you find such a person with those beliefs, don’t trust them with anything to do with money, security and children. That pretty much rules out hiring them for any job. Let them become homeless and see how they feel for what they are doing to good people.

  • Dec 6, 2016 Hyper-Inflation Complete Demise Dollar Coming

    Economist John Williams has a dire warning amidst all the record highs in the markets. Williams predicts, Unless the long term solvency of the U.S. Treasury bonds can be addressed, there’s no hope of avoiding a hyper-inflation and the complete demise of the dollar.

    https://youtu.be/fZuHArvF1zU

    • socalbeachdude

      What utterly inane nonsense. We are in an increasingly DEFLATIONARY ENVIRONMENT

      By the way, higher interest rates are DEFLATIONARY.

      The US dollar is skyrocketing and is now over 100 on the DXY (Dollar Basket) and will likely go much higher than 100 and keep on soaring upwards which significantly reduces corporate earnings for the US multinationals.

      Meanwhile, most all commodities are falling significantly and gold has plummeted down to $1,176 per ounce and is on its way towards its mean of $456 per ounce. Grocery prices are also plunging and are down 2.4% in 2016 as the deflationary tend intensifies in the US.

      • Sorry but you do not know what you are talking about. Nov 22, 2016 0.7% Of Adults Control $116.6 Trillion In Wealth, Wealth Transfer Is Now Complete – Episode 1134a

        Existing home sales surge prior to the election. The top .7% of adults controls most of the wealth in the world. The elite have completed the wealth transfer. The entire economy is one big illusion created to make it look like the economy has recovered. This is a complete setup because the central bankers are planning to crash it one way or another.

        https://youtu.be/o3Uemg9nSj8

        • socalbeachdude

          Laughably false. It is YOU who doesn’t know what you are talking about and you are putting up utter drivel that has nothing whatsoever to do with the $18 trillion a year US economy.

          Wealth is a totally separate and distinct concept from GDP and economic activity in any economy, and your “wealth transfer” notions are beyond irrelevant and based strictly on asset valuations which are always in flux. When asset prices such as stocks, bonds, real estate, commodities plunge those who are most affected are obviously the ONES WHO HOLD THOSE ASSETS and not the rest of the people in any economy.

          There is no “illusion” whatsoever to the $18 trillion a year US economy.

          As to who controls much of the assets, so what? There are more than $800 trillion of assets in the world at present valuations and $116 trillion is a relatively small portion of the total value of all assets. In the US alone there are more than $180 trillion in assets.

          Central banks are certainly not trying to crash any economy at all and have little to nothing to do with economies as they are JUST WHOLESALE BANKS which serve their member banks.

          The most damage being done to economies is by GOVERNMENTS RUNNING UP VAST AMOUNTS OF DEBT and global debt now exceeds $200 trillion which is the single biggest problem facing the US and rest of the world today.

  • A.S.

    Thomas Jefferson once said: “If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered.”

    We are already there. This is the consequence of the Federal Reserve and fascism in this country. We all will become homeless very soon.

    • David

      Indeed, everything has been taken away from us systematically, and we are almost about to see a civil war . . .

      • socalbeachdude

        Nope. America is the wealthiest country in the world and live has never been more wonderful than it is today in Beverly Hills, California

    • socalbeachdude

      Thomas Jefferson NEVER MADE ANY SUCH STATEMENT and that quote is TOTALLY BOGUS as has been clearly established by the Monticello Foundation and many others. The terms inflation and deflation didn’t even exist back then.

      http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/spurious-quotations

      http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/private-banks-quotation

      Moreover, are you not aware that Thomas Jefferson was one of the most fiscally profligate DEBTORS in the US at the time of his death and that he died owing $107,000 which was a MASSIVE DEBT at the time when his entire Monticello plantation was worth only $4,500 and that he stiffed creditors to the tune of more than $100,000?

      “Because Jefferson died more than $107,000 in debt, his daughter Martha Jefferson Randolph and her son and financial manager, Thomas Jefferson Randolph, found it necessary first to sell nearly all of the contents of Monticello and then to sell the plantation itself. In 1827, the furniture, animals, farm equipment, and slaves were offered at an executor’s sale. In 1831, James T. Barclay, a local apothecary, purchased the home and 552 acres for $4,500, less the value of his own home.”

      http://www.monticello.org/site/house-and-gardens/monticello-house-faq

  • Jopin Klobe

    Ladies and Gentlemen …

    … with what used to be America’s values being thrown into the cesspit of so-called “conservative” so-called morals …

    … welcome to the fall of Rome …

    … and it’s gonna be quick and dirty … (not necessarily in that order) …

  • David

    No human is so humane . . .. I have to say this, We are heading to a very very serious crisis in America, which will bring upon a civil war across the nation. It is just a matter of time this will happen. fasten your seat-belts folks for a very wild ride. It is not just about homelessness . . .

  • socalbeachdude

    There is no excuse whatsoever for anyone who is a citizen of the United States to be wandering around “homeless” these days and those that do are often mentally ill and are a blight to any community. This sort of shabby behavior is not tolerated for a second in Beverly Hills, California and most areas in Los Angeles County are now moving to make such behavior illegal and removing any persons engaging in such behavior.

  • LIZ THE SHIZ

    18″ you wish

    • SnodtBlossom

      perv

  • Liberty First

    Only an extremely evil government would punish a church for trying to assist the homeless. Truly an abomination.

  • M. T. Sheister

    I live in Bonners Ferry Idaho and for a small town the homeless, prostitution, drugs and crime are unbelievable.

    I should have stayed in Washington D.C.

  • socalbeachdude

    ‘You can say Merry Christmas again because Donald Trump is now the president’ says his attack dog Corey Lewandowski

    Donald Trump’s original campaign manager Corey Lewandowski mentioned another upside of a Trump presidency during an appearance on Fox News Channel’s Hannity last night.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4010856/You-say-Merry-Christmas-Donald-Trump-president-says-attack-dog-Corey-Lewandowski.html

    • SnodtBlossom

      Impeach President PigBastard T.Rump!!!

      • socalbeachdude

        Donald Trump is a fine and wonderful American and will make a superb 45th President of the United States of America.

        Merry Christmas!

        • SnodtBlossom

          Impeach President PigBasttard T.Rump!!!

          • algol2000

            Have you stopped hiding in a flower? I can see that you have also drawn the curtain. Goodnight!

  • socalbeachdude

    Rounding up and deporting 12 million to 30 million illegal aliens will solve most all of the “homeless” problem in the United States of America.

    • Lennie Pike

      H1B visas will be issued (as long as a bribe is paid to the corrupt issuing government agency) immediately to replace the illegal alien deported. More “legal” invaders are given the jobs of Americans than illegal aliens.

      • socalbeachdude

        False.

  • mtntrek3

    Personally, I have helped some that are on the streets asking for money. Not to brag about it, but just saying. Now, what their actual situation is…… only they themselves and God know. The ones out there that are nearly out of options and honestly trying to do better, my heart hurts for them. For those that are there acting out a scam and aren’t really in a predicament….. p*ss on them. Having said this…… there are times coming in the not so distant future that even ones who never in their worst dreams thought they would even be near homelessness may find themselves near it or in it. …………. Christ first.

  • Mark

    Where is the left wing L I B T A R D PATEL??? What a loser and scum nut.

  • mtntrek3

    To add to my previous comment……. I have a relative with a generous pension coming in that has descended into near bankruptcy. He needs to take a long look in the mirror…… because it’s mostly his fault. He constantly hounds certain members of the family for money. Those certain members of the family are about to file restraining orders against him. Can’t say as I blame them. While I pray for him to get help…… until/unless he ever changes, I and my immediate family steer clear of him. Some people out here will drag you down with them if you allow it. He’s about to become homeless due mainly to his own immaturity and stupidity to put it bluntly. He’s also developed a bad drug habit. He stopped by our place a few days ago, then turned around and left. The next time I talk with him…….. he may not like what I have to say, but….. . The truth hurts. He needs Jesus most importantly.

  • Tatiana Covington

    Laws are whatever people… some people… say they are.

  • GetReal4U2

    take the church out of the need…and the government becomes the church…

  • rdzk

    Every taxpayer pays $1000+/year to support churches!

  • danbax

    no one is hungry in usa. food banks, ebt, shelters. if they are begging it’s because they want cash

    • Lennie Pike

      But there are the Homeless.

      • Lennie Pike

        And they don’t have kitchens.

  • wtnss4Jesus

    …”We must obey God rather than men!” (Acts 5:29 NIV)

  • Phil_Ossifer

    The idea is to make dealing with homelessness illegal for any individual or organization not affiliated with the government. Eventually there will be government “reservations” set up for the homeless so they can be “relocated” for their own good and “rehabilitated.” Once the sheeple buy into this then it’s only a matter of time before other groups are targeted for “relocation” and “rehabilitation.” Rev. Martin Niemoller got it right a long time ago. Google his name and you’ll find his famous quote.

  • sheri

    The churches won’t be able to take care of the poor and homeless but our country will still take care of all the illegal immigrants. What’s wrong with this picture?

  • rdzk

    This is the backside of CrookdClintons Nooneis Illegal Invasion to get votes!

  • Ranger

    Churches today are just houses of profit for the false and lying pastors. Religion is a poison on any society.

  • Bruce

    Our Government knows that it would cost peanuts to build one room dwellings for these people. A room and a bathroom. We can and should treat them as humans because they are. Yes, many are mental patients and druggies however, they are human. Many have done this to themselves but they are human. No one is immune from a catastrophe in their life. Show your appreciation for the security, prosperity and food you have by helping someone who doesn’t.

    • socalbeachdude

      It certainly is not up to government to do any more handouts of any kind to anyone. But government does need to immediately move to round up and deport up to 30 million illegal aliens here in the United States just like President Eisenhower did in the 1950s which removed most all of the 1 million illegals in the US at that time.

  • Willard Ferch

    During the depression those in need of help were honest, upright folks for the most part. Now days if you pick up a hitch hiker or let someone in your home, you have a fair chance of being robbed or killed. Drugs are rampant in even small towns. The mentally ill and the druggies have folks running scared. I’m willing to help anyone, but I keep a gun in my pocket and I don’t let strangers in the house unless I deem them safe to let in.
    The other day I realized my greatest disappointment in life was the human race, yet I love people, but on the whole, the human race is bound for destruction. The road to salvation is narrow, and few there be who find it. Most of the comments show a great ignorance of politics, economics, and history in general. This is inexcusable with the amount of material available on the internet and in books. The Bible alone, is a great source of research into human nature, politics, and wisdom. Fiddlin Ferch

  • Amanda

    So are “FEMA” type camps left for the homeless? Will they be released during the day to go to work or to school and have a curfew to back? If it’s illegal to feed the homeless, will it be illegal to be homeless, next? Wow, that’s scary! But it makes you think!
    Proverbs 3:5-6

  • Patriot Alice

    Let’s give them a pathway into Mexico, at least they’ll be warmer and will be welcomed.

    • socalbeachdude

      Not if they’re not Mexican citizens. Mexico has some of the most stringent migration laws in the world and actively enforces them against any illegal aliens.

  • endofwatchersbegan1/28/2011

    In the Book of Jasher, Sodom and Gomorrah (and 3 other “Cities of the Plain”) made similar such laws that made it illegal to help the needy and any strangers that came to their city. They would let them die for lack of necessities and kindness, then come and steal their things after they saw they had perished. There are 5 locations around the Dead Sea that have been identified having been incinerated, having scattered all over, thousands of 95+% white sulfur balls that you can dig out of the ash-crust and ignite with a lighter, that burns at 5-6 thousand degrees. The rocks have been burnt to ash, is obvious everywhere at these 5 locations. These sulfur balls are impossible naturally, and obviously rained out of the sky, just as is written in the Bible. They are melted into the ground and rock at these locations, by the millions. Look up “Ron Wyatt, Sodom and Gomorrah”. The evidence speaks for itself. Similar cities that make similar laws, will receive similar results. They seal their own fate for their wickedness.

    • Gay Veteran

      bilge

  • Riding tha wind

    It is setting up the system for when christians refuse to take the mark of the beast no one will be able to bring aid to us.

    • socalbeachdude

      The Lord helps those who help themselves. The rest get what they deserve.

  • Robbin Knepp

    The article at hand fails to mention that this church had homeless camped out on their lawn and the homeless were urinating on property located next to the church gallons of urine per day. The business owners were also harassed by these homeless folks. The issues were brought to the church several times before they got the city involved.

    I would have done the same thing had it been my business establishment. By the way, I feed whom I choose to feed and no law is going to stop me from doing it, and I also hand out money and things when I can. Good Lord, had the church pulled their resources together maybe they could have taken donations for building a shelter, or housing these folks in a proper area. Now they have a fine they say they cannot pay, I would bet that someone in this country or the state will pay it for them.

  • Francis

    “…these people…”

    What a lowlife.

  • Alleged Comment

    If the churches don’t do it who will? Churches have always been the last life line.
    Government is inefficient and may have actually CAUSED the problem. Double jeopardy government. No good!

  • thomas jefferson

    THE LORD warned everyone ,IF you abuse the homeless,HE WILL DESTROY YOU,americans love seeing the death of homeless children,seeing their police gangs beating them and their children,NOW YOU’LL GET WHAT YOU REALLY WANTED AMERICA,everything you own will be taken,your country will be looted and NOT many of you will live to tell about it….STARTING ON DECEMBER 16,2016…

    • socalbeachdude

      What utterly bogus nonsense. Please get help.

  • altarr

    Natural law always supercied man made law churches have caused tremendous amounts of suffering that’s why Jesus was killed he stood up for the children of the most high. If a law is passed in your state disregard it always remember natural law always over rides man’s laws no matter who created them. If law enforcement tries to arrest you for helping someone take his teeth out. And remember natural law is the highest law one can and should follow. For those spineless cowards that wouldn’t lift a finger to help someone in need I pray one day you will be on the receiving end the joys of living under a bridge. Mary Christmas.

    • socalbeachdude

      You can will be prosecuted if you violate any laws.

  • Diane

    It is a sin not to help people! Even if you don’t bring them into your home, you could buy them a hamburger! I just can’t let someone go hungry! It’s not the government business how I spend my money! They steal enough of it!

  • thegeorgespyman

    The Nazi’s had laws against helping the Jews. You would be sent to the camps yourself if you did. Many did. Many were. I would recommend the Christian film The Hiding Place about 2 sisters who went the distance for their faith in The Netherlands. One died in captivity. One survived. Anyway what is the New World Order save and except a totalitarian police state. Ours is fascism light, but it is still fascism. Betsie and Corrie ten Boom were real heroines. So, too, are you if you follow your faith. What we do for the poor, we do for Christ.

    • whodowetrust

      This is true but also remember that quite a few who are homeless are also addicts and should not be given money.
      I have bought food for the homeless more than once but also have had them break into my truck quite a few times, while at work.
      I have also been homeless when my boss retired some years ago and have never used drugs.I remember going hungry, sleeping in the car and washing in the public park. Thank God I was able to get back on my feet but even after well over 20 years at the same job, I still have some fear that comes with getting older and not being so healthy.
      Not all homeless can be lumped together and many have mental health issues that are not being treated.
      I wish we would focus more on taking care of our citizens before we focus on taking in the “refugees” of the world.

      • Cliff Brulotte

        Great comments. I used to live in Anchorage, Alaska. It was illegal to give money to homeless standing in -10 weather. I always tried to have extra gloves in car to hand out. Believe it or not they held signs up in freezing weather with their bare hands. I’m very conflicted about the homeless. Now I just bring coffee when its cold and bottled water when its hot out. Its the least I can do. One of our homeless is a vet without legs I make sure he gets a hot drink when I see him.

  • Talon

    During the Great Depression, seven million in America starved to death. The government does a horrible job of taking care of people…Good Samaritans, keep up the good works, our authority is higher than earthy authority.

    • socalbeachdude

      Absolutely false and extremely stupid assertions.

      The so-called “Great Depression was actually just a VERY MINOR AND SHORT-LIVED BLIP.

      The Great Depression itself was really nothing more than two separate periods of recession the first of which started in August 1929 two months before the stock market crash of 1929 and which lasted only until March 1933. Then there was a recovery which lasted 4 full years with positive growth in GDP until May 1937 when the economy dipped into another very short recession which only lasted until June 1938.

      http://ingrimayne.com/econ/EconomicCatastrophe/GreatDepression.html

      This time around the Grand Global Depression is likely to last considerably longer and actually started in August 2007 and will be with us last least out through the end of 2020. The affects of the GGD are being masked by huge government deficits without which GDP would be decisively negative and by such programs as food stamps which are the modern equivalent of soup kitchens for 41 million Americans.

      The massive slowdown in the US economy began in 1928 as the huge credit bubble blown during the 1920s began to burst. The crash in the real estate markets began in 1926 in Florida and was epic and rolled through most of the country up in to the 1930s. The stock market crash of 1929 was just one of the many events during that time period from 1926 through 1938 caused by the bursting of the 1920s massive credit bubble.

  • WhiteDragonKing

    Just a bit more and America will become the spitting image of sodom.

  • JJR

    Too bad all those liberal whack jobs like Soros, Buffet, Gates, Zuckerberg, etc wouldn’t pony up the cash to create a homeless region for the country. I read recently Ted Turner owns over 2 million acres of land, couldn’t he donate a few for a homeless community?

    all these dumb a$$es had Billions to try and elect Hillary but nothing for their fellow man?

  • Larry Deavenport

    These laws have been on the books in a lot of cities for years. In Chicago several years ago a man was giving away free food to the needy and was fined given a cease and desist order.

  • factfiler

    Soooo .. every church should just open up their doors and become a homeless shelter? And what do you suppose happens when word gets out and 100 people descend on the property? Who keeps them safe; who protects the church property; what about the drug dealers and pedophiles who show up; how does an untrained volunteer handle a knife fight or assault; who pays for the bedding and blankets; who washes all of it; how many are allowed to come in; what do you do with those you turn away; how do you decide who gets in; what if someone gets seriously ill or injured; what about the destruction of a neighbor’s property, which was the case in the Maryland church where the homeless urinated on the trees at the neighboring nursery business and killed them, and on and on it goes. Common sense indicates it’s just not that easy to open a shelter. I’m a Christian social worker and I have also spent many years volunteering at a homeless shelter that rotates to a different church each month. Yes, it’s possible to do a shelter, but it takes much planning, money and a veritable hoard of volunteers to get it running and keep it running. It becomes such a huge effort that many churches, who have had major property damage and so many liability issues, simply can’t do this. And the same people that scream we should be doing it are the first to lose interest with volunteering their time, money and effort to keep them going. This blame and shame game to make Christians with common sense feel guilty is ridiculous. Don’t recreate the wheel. Christians can donate their time, service and money to shelters that the local government or non-profits run, who know what they’re doing and the challenges that this population brings, and be doing Christ’s work.

  • Toby

    Pure evil.

    But why should we expect anything better from our federal, state, and local governments?

    This is an example of why this country – USA Babylon – is fast heading for severe judgements.

    • socalbeachdude

      What is evil is the number of people on federal and state welfare of all kinds in the United States. Here in California more than one-third of the entire state is on welfare and those welfare payments need to be cut very significantly.

  • Kevin Calegari

    The cities “officials” making these laws are Godless communists. They are also incompetent to address the real problem and make it better but rather criminalize people for trying to do what these cities should be doing. Either these law makers will either be rounded up by the persecution and expelled from our great country or God will chastise them so as to allow these law makers to experience the same hardships as the ones they are persecuting. That’s how Divine justice works. If they want God’s mercy they will need to excerise mercy themselves.

  • GRAMPA

    We do have money to support the millions who offer nothing to our nation. we need to expose these hypocrites. put their names out for all to see. These people were not always homeless. we dont see them running amuck and killing people in the name of a deviant god of depraved minded people who hate us. begging was once a profession that had apprenticeships. We condemn these people for living their lives out in the shadows while we have to many rich who intentionally connive to steal our wealth. I think they have their attention focused in the wrong direction……Grampa

  • FranktheMc

    Well, I guess people have dropped the ersatz-Christian mask. Just in time for the new administration!

  • Steven

    As a car and church dweller myself I can’t help thinking that it matters not that I might have a job or not but what really matters to society is do I support the genocidal real estate market and its unlimited greed or don’t I.
    If I did then society approves , if not then I am the enemy to be policed, criticized and condemned.

  • Anton Ossa

    IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW PRESIDENT TRUMP DEALS WITH THIS PROBLEM!

  • LAWD

    Obama loves the homeless so much he created 10 million more of them.

  • Artiewhitefox

    People are being told to not help Jesus in people. That needs to stop.

  • JohnnyD

    Churches have been providing that kind of assistance in varying degrees for a long time. It’s sort of a hallmark, in my experience, so why does the City take issue?

    And howuu can they call the church a “Rooming or Boarding House” when the “boarders” in question are sleeping OUTSIDE the building? Do they consider sleeping anywhere on the property as “occupying a room”? What if the church officials are unaware of their presence? Are they still liable?

    And of course, the BIG question, where do the city officials expect those homeless people to sleep, if not there?

    I suspect I would not like their answers to those questions, and that the homeless would like them even less – call it a hunch.

  • Paul Vosper

    ” HEARTLESS EVIL AMERICAN PIGS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! …………..

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