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Collecting Donations For Wal-Mart Employees That Cannot Afford Thanksgiving Dinner?

Wal-Mart Collecting Donations For Their Employees - Photo Courtesy Of OUR Wal-MartYou may find what is happening at one Wal-Mart in Ohio very hard to believe.  At the Wal-mart on Atlantic Boulevard in Canton, Ohio employees are being asked to donate food items so that other employees that cannot afford to buy Thanksgiving dinner will be able to enjoy one too.  You can see a photo of the donation bins that has been posted on Twitter right here.  On the one hand, it is commendable that someone at that Wal-Mart is deeply concerned about the employees that are so poor that they cannot afford to buy the food that they need for Thanksgiving.  On the other hand, this is a perfect example that shows how the quality of the jobs in this country has gone down the toilet.  Wal-Mart is the largest employer in the United States and it had operating income of 26.5 billion dollars last year.  Wal-Mart is not required to pay their employees a decent wage, and it is very unlikely that anyone will force them to.  But they should.  Because Wal-Mart does not pay decent wages to their employees, the rest of us end up with the bill.  As you will see below, huge numbers of Wal-Mart employees end up on Medicaid and other government assistance programs.  Meanwhile, those that control Wal-Mart continue to enjoy absolutely massive profits.

The following is a short excerpt from a local news story about the donation bins that have been set out at the Wal-Mart in Canton, Ohio.  As the story notes, this does not appear to be a nationwide program, and the donation bins are only available in an employee-only area...

The storage containers are attractively displayed at the Walmart on Atlantic Boulevard in Canton. The bins are lined up in alternating colors of purple and orange. Some sit on tables covered with golden yellow tablecloths. Others peer out from under the tables.

This isn't a merchandise display. It's a food drive - not for the community, but for needy workers.

"Please Donate Food Items Here, so Associates in Need Can Enjoy Thanksgiving Dinner," read signs affixed to the tablecloths.

It just seems really crazy that the largest employer in the country pays so little that some of their employees cannot even afford to eat Thanksgiving dinner.

Is this what the future of America is going to look like?

According to official Wal-Mart numbers, more than half of their hourly workers make less than $25,000 a year.

That breaks down to about $2,000 a month before taxes.

Could you survive on that?

Could you afford to support a family on that?

It turns out that a lot of Wal-Mart employees simply cannot get by without financial help from the government, and the numbers are staggering.  A recent Businessweek article discussed one study that found that 300 employees at just one Wal-Mart in Wisconsin actually receive a combined total of nearly a million dollars a year in public assistance...

“A decent wage is their demand—a livable wage, of all things,” said Representative George Miller (D-Calif.). The problem with companies like Wal-Mart is their “unwillingness, not their inability, to pay that wage,” he said. “They hand off the difference to taxpayers.” Miller was referring to a congressional report (PDF) released in May that calculated how much Walmart workers rely on public assistance. The study found that the 300 employees at one Supercenter in Wisconsin required some $900,000 worth of public assistance a year.

And according to Politifact, in many states Wal-Mart employees represent the largest single group of people enrolled in the Medicaid program...

In Florida, Wal-Mart topped all companies operating in Florida with the largest number of employees and family members (12,300) eligible for Medicaid, according to a 2005 Tampa Bay Times story. Wal-Mart also ranked highly (No. 2) for dependents enrolled in Florida Healthy Kids or KidCare, trailing Miami-Dade County employees.

In Missouri, where Wal-Mart is the largest employer behind state government, the state’s social services department determined Walmart employees outnumbered all others with employees and family members enrolled in MO HealthNet, the state’s Medicaid plan, in the first quarter of 2011. However, at almost 14 percent, it did not represent the highest percentage of workers enrolled or responsible for an enrollee (Dollar General, for instance, was much higher at 42 percent).

And in Pennsylvania, a 2006 Philadelphia Inquirer investigation revealed the company had the highest percentage of employees enrolled in Medicaid. One in six of Walmart’s 48,000 Pennsylvania employees were enrolled in Medicaid, costing the state about $15 million a year (it’s likely higher because the Inquirer’s story did not cover employees’ dependents on Medicaid, or any other public assistance such as food stamps).

This is a disgrace.

Your taxes and my taxes are going to subsidize Wal-Mart.

The government has to take more money from all the rest of us because Wal-Mart will not pay their workers a decent wage.  Because Wal-Mart will not support them, we end up supporting them.

Meanwhile, the six heirs of Wal-Mart founder Sam Walton have as much wealth as the bottom one-third of all Americans combined.

So why do people still work there?

Well, because there is a huge shortage of jobs in this country.  As I noted yesterday, the total number of working age Americans without a job has increased by 27 million since the year 2000.

Right now we have a growing unemployment crisis in this country that is being seriously downplayed by the mainstream media.

According to John Williams of shadowstats.com, if long-term discouraged workers were still included in the official government employment figures like they were back in 1994, then the broadest measure of unemployment would now be approaching 25 percent.  In fact, according to his charts unemployment in the U.S. is now worse than it was at any point during the last recession.

And even the New York Times is admitting that long-term unemployment in America is up by 213 percent since 2007.

At this point, there are millions upon millions of desperate Americans that will take just about any job that they can get.

Meanwhile, the quality of the jobs in this country continues to go downhill very rapidly.

For example, did you know that about 40 percent of all U.S. workers actually make less than what a full-time minimum wage worker made back in 1968?

And did you know that 65 percent of all American workers make less than $40,000 a year before taxes?

For much more on this, please see my previous article entitled "15 Signs That The Quality Of Jobs In America Is Going Downhill Really Fast".

At the same time, the good paying high tech jobs that our politicians have been promising us continue to disappear.  For instance, 19,507 biopharma jobs were eliminated between January 1, 2013 and October 31, 2013.  That is a 68 percent increase over the pace of biopharma job losses during the same period last year.

So are there any areas of the country that are actually doing well right now?

Well, yes there is.  In fact, the Washington D.C. region has added more "1 percent households" over the past decade than anyone else has...

The winners in the new Washington are not just the former senators, party consiglieri and four-star generals who have always profited from their connections. Now they are also the former bureaucrats, accountants and staff officers for whom unimagined riches are suddenly possible. They are the entrepreneurs attracted to the capital by its aura of prosperity and its super-educated workforce. They are the lawyers, lobbyists and executives who work for companies that barely had a presence in Washington before the boom.

During the past decade, the region added 21,000 households in the nation's top 1 percent. No other metro area came close.

I used to live in the D.C. area, and I can tell you that the folks out there are living the high life at your expense.

In one recent article, I noted that the average federal employee living in the Washington D.C. area received total compensation worth more than $126,000 in one recent year.

Of course you and I are paying the bill for this too.  The U.S. national debt is on pace to more than double during the eight years of the Obama administration, and our politicians seem to have no trouble continuing to steal about 100 million dollars from our children and our grandchildren every single hour of every single day.

Meanwhile, thousands of other communities all over the nation are slowly being transformed into rotting, festering hellholes.  The following is an excerpt from a recent CNBC article that discussed what is happening to Trenton, New Jersey...

When a city is badly broken, it can be very tough to fix.

Just ask Darren Green, president of a coalition of community groups in Trenton, N.J., where deep budget cuts in 2011 forced the city to lay off a third of its police force.

"We're at a place now where it's very dangerous to walk the streets," he said, his thoughts periodically interrupted by the distant sound of passing sirens. "The school system is dysfunctional and not working. You have young people who are robbing elders. Young people who are destroying communities. With no leadership and the community in disarray, there's a lot of bad here."

So what is happening in your neck of the woods?

And what do you think of the fact that donations are being collected for Wal-Mart employees that cannot afford Thanksgiving dinner?

Please feel free to share your opinion by posting a comment below...

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  • Tim

    “I used to live in the D.C. area, and I can tell you that the folks out there are living the high life at your expense.”

    Yup. After I moved away from the Washington area, I continued to communicate with former coworkers. I tried to tell them that they need to prepare for what’s coming, but they just don’t get it. It boggles my mind. I mean, they are not stupid people. The only conclusion I can come to is that they’re willfully ignorant and just want the gravy train to continue. Man, they are in for a rude awakening. And it will be hard for me not to say to them “I told ya so” when the gravy train ends.

  • K

    When money is all that matters, this is what you get. Greed destroys everything it touches. The saddest part is, in many rural areas Walmart is the only show in town. As to the folks that run Walmart, the question fits them perfectly. What does it profit a man? To gain the entire world, and lose his own soul.

    • Rodster

      And the man is not listening as he’s too busy counting his money.

    • Anonymous

      I guess to some in the 1%, to gain the world and lose their soul is a small price to pay. And one they would pay gladly.

    • seth datta

      Don’t worry, the folks in Douchebag County are looking out for you. Just ask Obaama. He’ll get round to sorting things out once his golf game is sorted.

      On a more serious note, NWO is in full swing. Gotta destroy the western middle class after all. And get those guns so they can trample over us. Depopulation programs. Agenda 21 (police state and removal of private property rights). In the space of a few years, the reality has been exposed and it makes me sick.

    • craigzimmerman12

      The profit margin in retail (including Walmart) is razor thin. To raise wages means you have to raise prices and or hire fewer people. Both of these options would hurt the low income people that liberals claim to care about.

      • 2Gary2

        not true-this is a right wing talking point that has been debunked many times over.

        • nekksys

          I gotta go with you on this one, Gary…

          See, my wife used to work for Long John Silver’s. She has seen the books for her store. She knows how much comes in and how much goes out. The actual food product has a high cost to it. Fish, shrimp, crab and other seafood isn’t as plentiful as it used to be and costs more to get the it did 15yrs ago. You wanna know what props up most food franchises? Sodas. The 17 cents it costs to provide the soda is a pittance compared to the $1.29 sale price.

          Any retail establishment managed by a major corporation is doing fine while us little guys suffer. The lies the tell about profit margins being so slim is absolute bull hockey.

          • 2Gary2

            true–I used to be a manager at Wendy’s and Burger King as recently as 2006. The money and profit they make is incredible and is in no way razor thin. Hard to believe so many right wing dupes still believe the razor thin crap.

    • brett

      Greed does not destroy everything it touches. Greed is the reason you have clothes on your back and a computer in front of you. Greed is the steering wheel on the engine of progress. Without greed, you would be living in a homemade house in the woods.

      • gstanz

        All those inventions and innovations that benefited society were NOT created by greedy people. They were created by people who wanted to improve the lives of others. Thats NOT greed.

        • brett

          Maybe that would be true for 10 percent of them. For the most part, do you think McDonalds exists because they want to feed hungry people? Do you think GM exists because they wanted you to be able to get from A to B? Do you think Walmart or any other retailer exists because they know you need stuff? No, they all exist for the same reason that you go to your job. You and they are greedy and you want more money. That is not a bad thing. That is a great thing and necessary. If no one ever wanted more than what they have, we would literally be living in the stone age. Thank God for greedy people. We would not have jobs or sofas or computers or anything else.

          • nekksys

            You say, “If no one ever wanted more than what they have, we would literally be living in the stone age,” yet what about that wonderful stone age invention that changed human mobility for literally thousands of years: the wheel? Was it created for the purpose of selling tires for the millions of automobiles on the road today? Or, was it invented to make it easier to move large, heavy objects long distances? I’m pretty sure Og and his buddies never made a dime off the wheel…

            Congratulations! You’ve just had your back side handed to you. Go back to school and try to Think Deep…

          • brett

            Oh Jesus, that is hilarious. You actually think you handed me my back side? LOL! That is really embarrassing for you. You think you outsmarted me with this exception to the rule? I already said that 10% of all things we have might not be a result of greed and I was being very conservative with 10%. It is probably closer to 5%. I am sure Og carved his own arrowheads too and did not make any money on that either. As for the wheel, guess what? After Og invented a better way to move heavy objects and eventually they found better methods than a large log, you can bet that sometime after that, someone started manufacturing wheels for wagons, chariot, carriage, etc.and those wheels were much better than a log. Why were they better? Because someone got greedy. Do you want proof? Google “wheels” and see if you can find any for sale. Next time you want to hand me my back side, you are going to need to bring a little more to the table…okay? It is really embarrassing to think you have outsmarted someone in a public forum by being a sassy jerk and it comes back to bite you in your back side.

          • nekksys

            You’re still an idiot. Your whole premise is based on a “right-here, right-now” line of thinking. You haven’t bothered to consider time, place or conditions for any invention. I can go thru a laundry list of inventions whose sole purpose was to make things easier for us.

            Sure Eli Whitney knew he could make money from his cotton gin, but that isn’t why he invented it. Do you know why? I’m sure you haven’t a clue. He made and sold gins which in turn made others far richer than he would become.

            As I said, you’re still an idiot.

          • brett

            Hey, when in doubt, call names, right? Where in my original post did I say that everything that mankind has ever come up with, inventions, products or services were motivated by the desire to make money? I never even hinted that. I said most things. Donald Trump does not need money but he still invests and builds his companies. Yes, people do things like that because they enjoy it. I am talking about the vast majority of everything you buy is motivated by someone’s greed, their desire to make money. Is that too hard for you to understand? Why do you think Whitley invented the cotton gin? He wanted to spend less time in the field and more time doing something else, probably leisure. Didn’t that make him greedy…wanting to spend more time for himself? Then, you admitted he sold them. I bet he made money! You keep harping on inventions. Inventors are creative types who love to invent. Their products, like cars and computers would never be mass produced for the general public without that little thing called greed, you know the word that you cannot accept because the world has taught you that it is a bad thing. Greed is the reason why you don’t give all of your money to the poor. You want it for yourself, don’t you? Couldn’t you drive a cheaper car? Live in a small apartment or camper to save money that you could give to someone else? No, you are not going to do that are you…because (altogether now) you are greedy. You want more. Everybody does. Accept it.

          • nekksys

            I have everything I need. I have children whom I still support financially to one degree or another. I live a very inexpensive life because I don’t have money to waste on useless Chinese junk that no one really needs. If I want something, I make it.

            I can accept there are greedy people like you in the world. What I can’t accept is when my step-daughter gets tossed around, stepped on and beaten up because she happens to be working on a holiday all because of greedy people like you.

            I opted out of such rampant consumerism. Seems you haven’t… So go ahead and buy-buy-buy all that junk while I learn new stuff and develop a repertoire of skills to rival even the most educated person.

            From here on out, I’ll just be ignoring you. You have nothing to contribute as far as I am concerned.

          • brett

            OH, I see how this works. Because you don’t shop on Thanksgiving or other holidays, that makes you not greedy? I guess it does not count that you shop for stuff you need the other 363 days per year and why do you do that? Because you want more stuff. That makes you greedy. You want more. That is why your daughter goes to work. She wants more. Otherwise, you could just live in a box under a bridge, right? It is hilarious that you cannot grasp the concept of what greed is. You think that you are special because you don’t shop on a holiday. You are “above” that kind of greed but you like your kind of greed shopping the day before and the day after a holiday. That is okay. Or, I could be all wrong and you are the only person in America who makes ALL of their own stuff, food, cars, shelter, etc. You would be the one exception. Is that what you do because I bet you could be highly successful on a youtube channel teach all those cool skills like how to grow chickens, build cars and computers out of nothing. Man, you must be some kind of building and designing magical wizard. How long did it take you to build the computer you are using now. Obviously, due to your moral philosophy, you would not buy it from Gates or Jobs because that would be catering to their greed and yours. I wish you could do a video on how to build a cellphone. That would be cool. BTW, you know that useless Chinese stuff that you said “nobody wants?” Maybe you can explain why people keep buying things they don’t want because the last time I checked, stores are still ordering things from China.

      • aquietwhyme

        Actually, the twins “laziness” and “insecurity” did those things. In the past, as now, people were lazy, so they came up with ways to make things easier for themselves. People were insecure about their access to resources, so they came up with ways to secure those resources. These two factors were the impetus for almost all inventions and innovations humanity has come up with since we first learned to talk. Money and our market economy are one of those innovations, actually, set up to help secure resources and make it so that people don’t have to all be “everyman”. It has nothing to do with greed, and everything to do with the insecurities inherent in being a living organism in a hostile world.

        Greed as most people use the word is the desire to have more than you should need to feel and be secure. It, like addiction, is best understood in terms of pathology and illness; people who let greed control them, like most of our .01%, are mentally ill. They really actually need help, but since they live in a bubble where all of their peers are the same way, their illness is normalized.

  • Rodster

    “Is this what the future of America is going to look like?”

    No, it’s going to be a lot worse in the years ahead.

  • Wakulla Prepper

    Most of the construction jobs, including skilled trades are being done by folks that came from south of the border. They live very frugally, and send much of their earnings out of this country. Meanwhile the local guys are unemployed and taking tax payer support. It is no different than Wal-Mart profiting while the locals suffer. Our leaders have allowed this. The Mexican guys work very hard, often 60 hours a week, and at prevailing wage. The statement that they are only taking jobs Americans don’t want is pure B.S. The hard work once done by many black guys, such as concrete, is now done by Spanish speaking guys. The black guys have lost their identity as men (pay checks give as our place a a provider and family man), so they withdraw from the work a day world, and rebel against the system. If we don’t correct this society will pay an ever increasing price.

    • JW

      A pay check as a means of maintaining self worth is a very dangerous idea. Economic demand gives one a paycheck. No one wants concrete workers when construction is at a standstill. Such arrogance to believe you are responsible for the lack of construction jobs. You have to give self worth to yourself. It comes from nowhere else. As for rebellion against the system it is your responsibility to judge the system’s true worth and act accordingly.

      • Wakulla Prepper

        It is a basic fact that men obtain much of their personal identity from what they do for a living, so a job (and pay check) is central to well adjusted living. As Michael has stated previously, men quickly loose self esteem when unemployed. Construction workers generally have above average job satisfaction opinions since they see lasting improvements to our cities with their efforts. Our locality doesn’t lack construction jobs (I oversee $1.5 million in construction every week in a one square mile jurisdiction). The problem is foreign workers do not spend much of their earnings back into the local market, thus no on-going local economic benefit. Normal “turnover” of earnings is a factor of 2 to 3.

      • BellaLoca

        JW — You are delusional and ignorant.

  • markohio

    Actually Michael, that is my neck of the woods. It just goes to show the sad state of the economy. Thankfully, still I am employed full time with a wage to keep myself going. One of the lucky ones. No debt. And don’t spend more than what I make. Not worried if my neighbor has a bigger tv or newer car. And, yes, crime is picking up along with suicides too.

  • Sequoia

    Here in Mexico,Walmart is also very stingy,with their employees,
    The people who bag your merchandise at the cash register are all volunteers,with no pay, The customers give them tips, That is how these people earn money,Walmart gives them NADA,
    The other employees earn Mexican minimum wages like $5 a day, and Walmart makes BILLIONS of Pesos in PROFITS just here in Mexico. It is Mexico’s number one retail store in profits.
    Walmart screws everyone who works for them all over the world.

    • Jim Davis

      Meanwhile, the Walton brats are rolling in billions. I am not sure how they sleep at night. Maybe not having a conscience or a soul helps.

    • Rene Girrard

      Wow, I think that America could soon be like that. That is sad.

  • 2¢Wurth

    Yoohoo, Gary, where are you when the spotlight is on your cause. Perhaps a few of your trite ditties…
    Last night 60 minutes had an interview with a number of billionaires, who banded together to be great philanthropists, or at least to go down in history as something besides “pure evil”. Warren Buffett said he was going to write a book on “How to live with just 500 million dollars”! We have a giant company in our area that, like Wal-Mart, when the head of the company died, the children fought over every last dollar of profit. Worker esprit-de-corps rapidly waned and the quality of the product suffered after about 18 months. Wal-Mart may supply a lot of jobs, but I’ll wager it hurts them mightily to have a workforce that slogs through the day in contempt of their higher ups.

    • Jim Davis

      I have been to the local WalMart grocery store a couple of times but I won’t go back. The guys stocking the shelves seem to have a permanent scowl on their faces. At Publix, the best grocery chain in Florida, the employees are never like that. Being at WalMart is depressing experience. I don’t understand the attraction.

      • 2¢Wurth

        I wouldn’t go there either, but I just can’t tear myself away from that good-ol’ sewage grown tilapia. Mmm, mmm. And, soon to come, chicken-a-la-filth, direct from a gutter near Uncle Chan’s house.

    • 2Gary2

      it was nice to see michael discuss this topic

  • Bluegill

    I work at a walmart in ohio. Widower with 3 children under 18. And i dont make a ton of money there, but i do make more per hour than I could anywhere within 30 miles of my paid off,debt free home. With zero gov help thank you.Yes they could pay their employees more, but thats going to happen. I think the biggest rude awakening in years ahead will be these people you speak of that make $100,000 plus a year. No one in this area has jobs like that.. the store i work at does food drives like this also. Currently for a stage 4 cancer victum that still shows up everyday to work! Yes many may be on welfare but some do need the help, pardon us for taking care of our sick friends and provide all the fact behind a story before just running your mouth please

    • Obamamerica

      God Bless you

    • Gay Veteran

      and what facts did he leave out???
      maybe you write your own blog

  • Lisa

    My husband and I are self employed and live on $3600 a month. We have basic cable, do not have smart phones, flat screen tv’s (our current tv is 10 years old and still going strong). We have owned our car for 15 years and keep it maintained. We do not have the latest and the greatest and are getting by.

    When business was good we were doubling our income every few months and on track to make over 200,000 a year. Once the economy tanked that income reality has turned into a steady stream of fear, hopelessness at times, despair, anger, etc. Today I am happy to say we have crossed over onto the bridge of acceptance and are working to reinvent ourselves and our income. A slow and painful process but we are trying every day.

    Do we have what we need? Yes. Do we do without things we want? Yes.

    • Obamamerica

      Thank you for contributing to society, Unfortunately the wisdom in your posting goes over the heads of the collectivist zombies who are railing against the free market on this site. I was in a similar boat as you working for commission only sales 4 years ago ($18 per sale). Now I make over 100K.

      Those with an entitlement mentality are destined to be disappointed their whole lives. Sad really how so many in this country have swallowed hook, line, and sinker the notion the government is here to provide.

      • Das

        Screw work! Play station 4 is out, game on. ( entitlement mentality)

      • k

        So people who are working at walmart are not contributing to society?

        • GPackers

          Apparently you don’t understand the story!

        • Wizchip

          Think it’s about “Slave Wage” mentality and acceptance.

  • Saintmatty

    There used to be diversity in America. Now there is basically only one store.

  • Rene Girrard

    “Right now we have a growing unemployment crisis in this country that is being seriously downplayed by the mainstream media.”

    Yet another outstanding article Michael. You’re right as usual. I watch Fox News, and today Neil Cavuto, Charles Payne and the other elitist were making fun of the people who worked at WalMart demanding better wages. They said they should be thankful that they have a job and quit complaining about making $8.50/hour. These elitist even on Fox News are arrogant, and don’t care about the middle class. But they are all making 6 or 7-figure salaries.

    You know that $8.50/hour reminded me of something. That was my starting salary when I got out of junior college with an AAS degree in electronics technology. And that was in 1985!

    • ConcernedAmericaan

      Before demanding that others should be grateful for $8.50 per hour, they should try living on $8.50 per hour themselves. I would say I wonder how people sleep at night treating other human beings so poorly; but on second thought maybe this might be the reason I see so many sleep aid ads on t.v.

    • Obamamerica

      No one is stopping these people from getting a better paying job Rene. No one is born and guaranteed they would have a comfortable life. Grow up

      • sharonsj

        There are very few better paying jobs. Two-thirds of all the jobs created since the financial meltdown are minimum wage. And I guess you missed that other article where a new Walmart has gotten 23,000 applications for 600 job openings.

  • Alex

    I just wanted to give everyone an in depth perspective of the DC areas disproportional income inequality in comparison to the average
    person and why this is going on. The top .01% that holds the real power in this country are very systematic in setting up a system that will allow them to retain that power even when the masses start to get fed up with them.

    Part of their strategy in achieving that is to have control over “key personnel” that would be essential in keeping control. This is why
    the people in DC are paid so well. In case people in general get fed up with the government and demand change; they want to ensure that the people they need to keep their stranglehold over this country do not decide to join the good
    fight.

    This is a key reason why governments in improvised nations are overthrown easily. They simply don’t have the resources to pay key
    personnel enough to keep them motivated to stay in the system. However, in the USA how many of those making 126K or more do you think will give up the good life for themselves and their family to fight for what’s right? Not very many.

    And the rich and powerful are implementing this system nationwide; it’s just more blatant in DC.
    Washington DC has a very high cost of living so its
    makes their salary seems higher than what their true average is. When you account for that and look at how much key personnel are paid all over the US you will be shocked. I will share my personal situation with you to give you an idea of
    just how bad this income inequality is.

    I’m a police officer in a city where cost of living is very close to the national average. I’m 29 years old and I’m making 80K this year. My job only requires a HS diploma (although the training, screening and qualification process was rigorous). I will make 94K by the time I’m 41. And I will make a whopping 132K by the time I’m 46. And those numbers are if I get absolutely NO promotions throughout my career. By the way when you account for cost of living my 132K would be about 172K by DC standards, now that’s insane!

    When I retire (which I can do as early as 46) I get 75% of my income as pension. I get a yearly cost of living raise to that retirement for life. This is even better than the retirement federal employees are offered. I also get 55% of my health insurance paid for me and my spouse for life. Are you starting to get the picture? Is it fair that I should make that much money for my job? Of course not. The average person has been struggling to
    get by since the recession but the elite make sure that the people they need to retain power are compensated handsomely.

    Unfortunately the chances of changing this system are slim to none. The average person cares more about which celebrity is dating who, who’s making it to the playoffs this year, leasing a new car etc. They have been brainwashed to a point where it’s worse than it’s ever been. Its not that they don’t care about the issues, it’s to a point where they don’t even realize that the issues exist….

  • chrisferro

    I have to disagree with you on this one. Walmart pays low wages, but also provides low priced goods to poor people. Right now, those poor people get to buy those low-priced goods, and the “rich” among us (the 50% of Americans that actually pay taxes) pay taxes to pay for programs that supplement the low wages that Walmart’s employees get. If Walmart was forced to pay higher wages (by raising their prices), then the “rich” among us would be off the hook, and those poor people who need those low-priced goods would take the hit. And it’s foolish to argue that the Walton family should spend their personal wealth to pay their employees more. That might work for a year or so, but once their wealth is consumed by Walmart’s thousands upon thousands of employees, then what? This is the same old “raise the minimum wage” argument. The money for that has to actually come from somewhere, and it will come from higher prices or reduced numbers of workers or reduced hours (increased productivity – making each worker do more work). Our problem is that the government has made it very difficult and expensive to start or expand a business through taxes, regulations, fees, fines, penalties, etc. Therefore, the demand for labor is very low. When demand for something is low, the price drops as well because there is a glut in the supply of available workers (each worker is worth less because they are not scarce, they are abundant). What we need is to get the government off the throat of business, so that we can get more businesses hiring more workers. People with families can get higher paying jobs, and the low wage jobs will be left to the high school kids. And, as demand for workers increases, the price of labor (wages) will also increase. That’s the way it should be, but this President has destroyed the economy by smothering economic activity.

    • Gay Veteran

      the demand for labor is low because corporations have shipped millions of jobs to China, India, Vietnam, Mexico, etc.

      • Chris

        Corporations have “outsourced” because the government has made it very difficult and expensive for them to hire Americans.

      • Nicnak

        Yes u are right, because China have decided to privatized their industry several years ago and USA can not compete with China. Not the fault of Obama totally.

        Now China will back up their money with gold and USA land that Americans will be forced to sell to them. Will start with Harbour, airport,….

        Then the USA dollars will lose it s attraction and will become a little money like the Swedish crone

  • Bill

    Many do not believed Gov data. Thanks to a new article exposing fake data at Census we can now understand why the unemployment numbers are so skewed and why the s has not htf.

    • Bill

      Correction: “have”not believed (and still don’t)

    • ConcernedAmericaan

      Did you hear about the guy that just said there are not enough Americans to fill jobs?

      • Bill

        I think that refers to certain tech jobs not the over all job market.

  • ConcernedAmericaan

    Well, since a lot of Wal-Mart employees at the bottom of the food chain have to work Thanksgiving Day, who needs Thanksgiving dinner? I wonder if those at the top of the food chain, making six figure and up salaries, will be working the holiday; since they are collecting such a nice paycheck?

    Every working person should be able to afford lights, healthy/organic food, water, clothes, safe/clean/comfortable shelter, medical/dental/vision care. Any person willing to work should also be able to afford those things. I also feel working people should be paid enough that they can save some.

    Look at how many Americans live check to check:

    http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/24/pf/emergency-savings/

    Every article I read on this website breaks my heart.

    • Obamamerica

      Its amazing how many dupes like you are pushing collectivism and feigning anger, yet what have you contributed to society? Instead of railing against an employeer who has created millions of jobs, why dont you go create some better paying jobs?

      I know, sounds crazy, after all you believe the government should take care of everyone and redistribute wealth. Socialism is just f’n awesome!

      • Gay Veteran

        yeah, when “capitalism” is working soooooooo well

        • Jim Davis

          Don’t call what we have in America “capitalism”.

          • ConcernedAmericaan

            We do have Crony Capitalism in America.

          • Gay Veteran

            thus the quotes

      • 2Gary2

        tell the folks in the Scandinavian countries how bad socialism is. You are so dumb.

    • GoneWithTheWind

      ” I also feel working people should be paid enough that they can save some. ”

      So who does this for them a good fairy? Will you work two jobs so someone else can get paid more? Do you believe the money to pay high wages just appears somehow?

  • todayistheday

    Should’ve said no to walmart and all these other chinese/poor quality goods and stores. Buy local…. quality over quantity, community over greed, etc, etc!

    • Gay Veteran

      AMEN, don’t support the multinational korporations

  • greek yoghurt

    Walmart…. what a joke! People should demand more/better, but most of them are idiots and will accept anything.

    • Obamamerica

      Create a better product and pay your people more. But no, you would rather preach from your soapbox, wouldn’t you? I know…collectivism is like a drug. Keep voting Marxism…err I mean Democrat

      • Gay Veteran

        Marxism? moron, what we have is fascism (the merger of state and corporate power)

  • Richard Martin

    Without knowing the backstory of the Walmart employees it’s hard to pass judgement either way. I mean, are we talking about employees that are the sole breadwinners in a household of 6 or what? If a husband and wife are both employed at Walmart at $2,000 each per month, they should be able to live comfortably. Whether an income is sufficient or not, depends on need. This is exactly like the McDonald’s wage argument. They say McDonald’s doesn’t pay a “living” wage. No, they don’t. And they shouldn’t have to either. Is it McDonald’s fault that our presidents, both republican and democrat both, off-shored all of the manufacturing jobs via free trade agreements? Is it Walmart’s fault that immigration is running wild and unchecked, creating an employee glut? It is a basic law of nature that is causing the problems, not the greed of corporations. And that law of nature is… The law of supply and demand. Too many low and no skill workers are chasing not enough entry level jobs. If there weren’t enough workers available for the jobs there would be a shortage of help. What happens when there is a shortage? The wages go up.

    • M W

      You are a Walton apologist, Costco proves theres a better way. How hard was that?

      • Obamamerica

        Why dont you create jobs if you feel so guilty about Walmart’s low wages. Pay your employees $30/hr, and when you close shop because the finances dont work, you can tell your former employees “well I tried, I know Walmart is hiring”

        • M W

          LOL watta tool…

          • K

            No, considering the large number of posts. Plus having no idea about the job market. I call paid shill, most likely paid by walmart. They do indeed have such people.

          • M W

            I agree, there are many such posters on these boards…

          • craigzimmerman12

            How do we know that you are not a paid shill?

        • 2Gary2

          these same mcjobs pay a living wage overseas and still make a ton of money.

      • craigzimmerman12

        Costco’s business model requires fewer employees so they are able to pay more. Walmart stores require many more employees so the income per employee at Walmart is less than it is at Costco.

      • Mike

        Costco has just slashed the working hours of all it’s employees. It’s hired a bunch of new ‘part time’ employees to take over the hours it cut from its original employees!

      • GoneWithTheWind

        I can’t afford Costco but Walmart saves me money. How hard is that to understand?

    • Gay Veteran

      of course big multinational corporations like Wal Mart have destroyed mom and pop stores nationwide

      • brett

        Wrong. People who choose to shop at WM and not at Mom and Pop’s store destroy Mom and Pop. WM does not destroy anything except high prices.

        • Gay Veteran

          courtesy of Chinese slave labor which has destroyed millions of American jobs.
          but keep licking that corporate boot

          • brett

            Chinese slave labor? They are not slaves. They get paid. I see you hate Chinese people. I guess if they did not work and Walmart shut down and never employed those people, they would be much better off.

          • Gay Veteran

            gee, you’re a regular expert on Chinese labor conditions.
            but yeah, go ahead and support the multi-nationals that destroying this country

          • brett

            I don’t have to be an expert. I just know that if Walmart were to be non-existent, those people in China that now have jobs who suddenly would not have jobs would not be jumping for joy. Do you have some information to the contrary? If not, keep your mouth closed and stop showing the world how foolish you are sounding.

          • Gay Veteran

            hey junior, Wal Mart loves you licking their corporate boots.
            you ever hear of the Chinese companies where they put up nets so people can’t jump to their deaths?

          • brett

            No, I have never heard of that and it does not even make sense. Instead of continuing with your personal insults, educate me, okay? Please tell me how in a world without Walmart, Chinese workers will be better off and less likely to commit suicide. If there are better opportunities over there, then why are they not taking advantage of them? I am really interested in knowing if you can construct a reasonably thought out answer instead of continuing with insults. Thank you.

          • Gay Veteran

            maybe you ought to be more concerned about AMERICAN workers

          • brett

            I thank you for discontinuing the personal insults. However, you did not answer my question but simply changed the subject. Did the question make you uncomfortable because it is something you never thought about? Do you think American people are better people than then Chinese. What is more moral about shopping locally in a global economy We have more opps than they have. What is wrong with them having some? Walmart also makes it better for American workers? How you ask? By having such low prices that their own employees can afford to buy more! You and I get a 20% raise in our paychecks just by WM existing because WM’s prices let you buy at an average lower cost of something like 20-22%. An average family saves $2500 in a year. Do you think a low wage worker at any business including WM can use an extra $2500 per year or does it make sense for WM workers for you not to shop there, they close down and they lose their job and spend (without a job) the extra 20% on nearly everything they need. If you really cared about American workers, you would beat a path to WM’s door.

          • Gay Veteran

            I think America needs to look after AMERICANS.
            “…What is more moral about shopping locally in a global economy….”
            gee, supporting your fellow citizens? less energy used? not contributing to the destruction of the Chinese environment?
            Low prices at WalMart? We wouldn’t need it if the korporations hadn’t sent American jobs to China, India, Vietnam, etc. We loss worker pay, GDP, and our tax base. The wasteland you see around you is the direct result.
            Multi-nationals like WalMart are destroying this country and the middle class.
            So quit being a korporate apologist and wake the fu** up

          • brett

            Okay, never mind. I can see you are unable to answer the question about people in China. The only reason any business sends jobs overseas is so simple, a three year old should understand it. The taxes hear are astronomical and the cost of production there is a lot less. How simple was that? Why don’t you try this experiment: Start a big business where you try to sell lots of items and hire lots of people to help you. Since you support American and American only, buy only items made in America and see how well you do. Your prices will have to be much higher than your competitors but you should win on moral grounds. Go ahead and give that a shot and get back to us here in the real world. Soon, you too will be asking if I want fries with that burger.

          • Gay Veteran

            The only reason businesses ship American jobs to China is because of near slave labor conditions and an utter lack of environmental regulations.
            Taxes here astronomical? Big corporations pay very little in taxes because they own the politicians who write the tax laws.

            The middle class is being destroyed in this country because of “fair trade.”
            But keep on licking that corporate boot.

          • brett

            Corporations do not pay any taxes. The consumers do. Taxes are included in the price of every product you buy. A corporation cannot pay any taxes until the consumer pays them. We, the consumers, pay all taxes. What is all this “licking the corporate boot” stuff? A corporation can be a one person operation. Are you saying that you live in a cave and do not buy from any “corporation?” You are obviously someone who does not understand how business works.

          • Gay Veteran

            I smell a dogmatic libertarian.
            Try doing a little research on how little taxes big corporations pay in comparison to small businesses.
            Multi-national corporations are destroying the middle class in this country.

        • aquietwhyme

          That’s not actually true. Walmart, like many chain stores, utilizes fierce anti-competitive business tactics that starve out their competition. Many of these practices are illegal, but it is difficult to prove that for a small business without access to in-house lawyers.

          Additionally, many chain stores recieve unearned tax breaks and subsidies from the local governments they are now burdening with welfare receipients! They promise that the county or city will see job creation from their stores, and they use the threat of opening up in the next county over to bargin for tax concessions. (Because some jobs in county are better than no jobs in county, with your neighboring county recieving all the business AND the jobs). There is no way for a local business to compete on price with a company who is so thouroughly practiced at rigging the game in their favor, and if you can’t compete on price, you can’t compete in an impoverished area.

          So Wal-Mart does destroy competing businesses, and while one way it does so is with price, the methods it uses to keep those prices low also destroy the communties that the Wal-Marts exist in.

  • Ralfine

    corporate welfare – always defended by the middle class and everybody else;

  • XSANDIEGOCA

    The American People have been and are being grossly betrayed by the Establishment. Washington DC is no longer the Capitol of a Free Nation. It has become New Rome, the center of the Empire of the Elites. The Masses in Fly Over Country will periodically revolt but the Legions (IRS agents) will march and quickly suppress the rebellion. Obama Care will suck every sou out of the Body Politic that can be sucked and pipeline it directly to Washington DC where they party like its 1999! The money print will overwhelm us! Think of the Federal Reserve’s balance sheet as all the water behind Hoover Dam. One day, the levee will break and most of us will drown in the Inflationary Surge that will hit us like that Asian Tsunami. As for the Wal Mart scam…well, one day the Chinese will grow weary of us and tie the Yuan to Gold. Going to Wal Mart will be considered luxury shopping for most.

    • Obamamerica

      More wisdom than 99% of the readers on here can possible comprehend my friend.

      • BellaLoca

        Comprendo

  • FounderChurch

    Bad management of our nation is to blame. Follow “founderchurch” to fix this.

    • 2guest2

      No thanks.

  • JW

    I suggest the following ideas:

    1. Supporting the doctrine of austerity is a treasonable offense against humanity. It is terrible economics. You cannot save your way to prosperity.

    2. No matter how good you are at whatever you do you cannot do it alone. Modern economies are fundamentally social(ist) no matter what else is claimed about them.

    3. Criticizing the concept of a living wage because it will reduce employment is irrelevant. Business people who cannot meet such a standard because they do not believe in it must be removed from the economy. They are destructive.

    4. To support a living wage for a sufficient number of people to meet a full employment standard aggregate demand must be raised. This requires a return to Keynesian concepts for managing aggregate demand. Down with the neocons and the Washington Consensus.

    5. Establish the guaranteed annual income for the poor. Poor people spend whatever money they get. This will raise aggregate demand and, more importantly, tend to assure the money is spent on goods people really want.

    6. The guaranteed annual income will make it easier to start new business ventures for those inclined.

    The United States last passed through this economic territory in the 1930′s. Apparently we really need to do it again.

    • Jim Davis

      I stopped reading at “you cannot save your way to prosperity”. You are a complete idiot. My grandfather worked in a steel mill all of his life. Guess what? He retired a millionaire by saving and NOT spending.

      • americalsgt

        Yes Jim, but the mill hunks of Youngstown and Pittsburgh were well paid back then, and there were good jobs at Sheet and Tube. I give them credit for saving, but you have to something left to save for someday. You can’t do that on $8.50/hr.

        • Obamamerica

          NO ONE IS FORCING ANYONE TO ONLY WORK FOR $8.50. MY GOSH YOU PEOPLE ARE SO F’N BRAINWASHED

          • americalsgt

            Not necessarily, everyone can’t run their own business, and they need a job.And don’t yell at me. It’s impolite.

          • ConcernedAmericaan

            Where are the jobs that pay more?

      • ConcernedAmericaan

        Please point us to the jobs where employees can still do this.

        • Obamamerica

          Create a buisness. Why are you relying on a job to be wealthy. Your sickness is your entitlement menality

          • americalsgt

            Everyone does not have the ability to start their own business. There need to be jobs for the middle class and the middle minded. There is no sin in that

          • Joe Palladino

            The government needs to get out of the way, cut regulations and taxes, that’s how middle class jobs are created. Obama is doing the exact opposite.

    • Obamamerica

      You forgot bow at the alter of Obama and read the Communist Manifesto comrade.

      I love the mindless Collectivist Utopian dreams that have zero basis in reality.

      JW, I suggest you read “Road to Serfdom” to get some idea about collectivist policies and how they not only destroy freedom and liberty, but also lead to totalitarianism.

      • tfb

        I LOVE THIS GUY!!!! YES!!!

        We should all start our own businesses.

        Come on you lazy slobs! All you need is a business plan, some infrastructure , some employees, some capex, and of course, some willing and paying customers to keep it all going!

        What’s so f’n hard about that?!? It’s really simple when you think about it.

        Of course, this is the same TOOL that blames all his problems on Obama.

    • 2Gary2

      bless you you are 100% correct

  • Vlad Lenin

    People don’t have to work at Wal Mart, but they do. People don’t have to shop at Wal Mart, but they do.

    Wal Mart will continue to thrive until people don’t.

    Wal Mart generally hires for very low skilled jobs. If you have no skills, you are a commodity. You need to deal with that or dig yourself out. When our local store opened last year, they had 3-5x the number of applicants as jobs… so…the market says wages can be kept low.

    I have mixed feelings. I’d think I would at least try to do profit sharing (don’t know if they do or not), but after being a sometimes customer I would definitely not do anything more than necessary. Here’s why. Bad employees. My local Wal Mart is poorly stocked, the workers are rude, slow and show general disdain for customers. Could this be because of the low wages? Maybe? But, I think it’s also demographics. I would say a very large portion of their workforce works just hard enough to get by. That may not be PC, but I’ve seen it all my life… working to get beer money.

  • Patriot Alice

    I know people like that too. They’d rather spend their money on Scratch Offs and the like, hoping to hit it big.

    • americalsgt

      Scratch offs are a tax on stupidity.

  • americalsgt

    I worked for a company in NY and as a tradition, a truck came in every Thanksgiving week, and a frozen turkey was given to all employees. I was told that it had begun in the 40′s when there were turkey farms on LI and one hand washed the other. With all of their billions, I think it’s shameful that Walmart can’t give their employees a turkey. I mean what are we talking about here. Yes, if you figure $10.00/ turkey/ employee, it is a lot of money, but the PR from this would be made up in a very short time for Walmart. Walmart doesn’t have a greed problem, they have a stupid PR firm.

    • PeaceAngel

      They are spending millions on TV advertising the REAL walmart and that would feed all their employees for a year. THEY real are slave laborers but one in four Americans now work in or depend on a living in retail and this is not going to end.

  • grumpyhillbilly

    I don’t shop at the local Walmart very often, but do go there for certain cleaning supplies. The ones that work at the checkout lines tend to be chatty. From what I gather they all had jobs that paid well at one point, and now they are stuck working at Walmart. I’ll venture they have some debt to pay off. Anyway if they want cheap turkey’s – go to a grocery story. Walmart’s perishables are overpriced.

    • ConcernedAmericaan

      Good point. Many people have lost good jobs and had the choice of going on assistance or working low wage jobs.

  • matt

    my prepping has cost me so much. buy silver!!! stocks to 30,000 dow,,,,,what a joke 2088 economy will crash

  • ConcernedAmericaan
  • Jodi

    Michael, the job I lost a couple of years ago used to do a giving tree for the employees who couldn’t afford Christmas for their children. So, I wouldn’t be surprised if this happens to more than just Wal-Mart. It’s very sad to see people with a job & still can’t afford a meal for their family. As always I do what I can to help.

    • Obamamerica

      If the govt didnt tax everyone so much, maybe they could afford to buy food.

  • robert burns

    Our entire system is beginning to resemble THE HUNGER GAMES where the capital is living a life of plenty and luxury while the hinterlands are starving and losing hope.

  • Leostitcher

    Is this all that unusual? Many in the military are on food stamps and government assistance. I work at a college and we take up for our needy co-workers which are ones that work as custodians etc.

  • Richard O. Mann

    America. It was fun while it lasted.

  • M W

    The Walton family is a bunch of soul-less ghouls.

    • Obamamerica

      How many jobs have you created?

      • 2Gary2

        poor people with money create jobs with their purchasing. Your method of giving all the wealth and income to the top is a proven failure.

  • DJohn1

    The entire Union thing was to prevent employers from doing what is done every day at Walmarts everywhere.
    No one person can negotiate wages when faced with huge corporations and these corporations know it. So no Union negotiations at Walmart.

    So we give them wage increases? The Walmarts of the world will simply raise the prices to compensate.
    The entire Walmart corporate structure is based on small profits per item. They get away with this because of the size of their operation. If you buy something at Walmart it is because they give you the lowest price. To do this they have to keep operation expenses down to a minimum. Wages and benefits are a big liability for any corporations. The Walmart way is to do it as cheaply as possible and pass the lesser liabilities on to the customer.
    That means their employees are poverty stricken.
    Their way is that no one is forcing you to work for these wages, you chose to do it yourself.
    Meantime other retail outlets try and fail to compete with this business way and go broke. Walmart is able to supply goods cheaper by buying huge amounts in bulk then spreading it to their outlets all over the country.
    The only way I know of that might work is to require health benefits from everyone. But that means that everything has to go up in price. Sometimes doubling the price of items in the stores.

    That is unacceptable to most people.
    I suggest we have to change the way we think. Our entire education system is based on people working for corporations as soon as they get out of High School or even with College. People think this way because of the regimented environment of a school system that is basically training them to be poor.

    The only way around that is to teach them to be business oriented. That means the goal is to be self-sufficient. It means going out there and finding something the world wants and needs and selling it to them. That doesn’t happen much anymore.
    Our IRS taxes are based on people NOT being in business for themselves.
    That has to change if you want competition against places like WalMart. Don’t see it happening any time soon.

    • Obamamerica

      Rockefeller helped design the school system to create obedient non-thinking robots. It has taken less than a 100 years to make a majority of Americans mindless dependent slaves.

  • http://FreedomOutpost.com/ Tim Brown

    Just a point to be made here. Since this store is open for donations, then wouldn’t it stand to reason that not ALL the employees need this? I’m sure there are many wal-mart employees that make a substantial amount of money. Why is it that people don’t understand that minimum wage jobs are not for people providing for families. They are more along the lines of people working through school or single adults, nothing more. I wonder how many of these people have smart phones, cable, high speed internet, wii or playstations etc. I ask this as a father of 10 that works, but I would never expect a minimum wage job to be able to take care of my family.

    no one makes anyone work at wal-mart and no one forces wal-mart to hire them.

    Additionally, since my wife was the lingerie manager at a wal-mart nearly 20 years ago, I can attest that in addition to the pay, employees also receive benefits and stock with opportunities to move up in pay, so that must be taken into consideration as well.

    • Obamamerica

      Comrade you sound too logical. This is the Socialist States of America with El Presidente Obama in charge. Private business must be destroyed and a permanent dependent voting block for the socialists created.

      Obama Akbar!

    • quercus454

      Do a bit of research on today’s Walmart business model. It isn’t the same as when Sam was running it. Basically they move into an area. They under sell all of the neighboring business. They drive them out of business. The people who were working at the closed businesses often seek employment at Walmart. Mostly because they are the only game left in town.

      In my area as part of the employment info distributed to new employees was information on how to get social services. Walmart does offer healthcare insurance, but because the employees make so little they cannot afford it.

  • Randy Townsend

    I’m nothing close to a liberal, but WalMart needs to be dealt with. This is wrong, but the almighty dollar rules all.

    • Obamamerica

      You are not a liberal, rather you are a Marxist.

      • Gay Veteran

        bilge

        • FounderChurch

          Gay Vet is an oxymoron.

          • tih

            You’re the only moron here.

    • FounderChurch

      No, you’re a Dumbcrat.

  • GoneWithTheWind

    “Wal-Mart is not required to pay their employees a decent wage” Required to? By who? Lenin? Karl Marx? Hugo Chavez?

    • EnjoyTheCollapse

      All dead (though still voting in some elections). No, it is comrade Obama who must lead on this.

  • Joe Palladino

    Maybe the Walton family should give each employee a turkey. Oh that’s right, they’re too busy adding more billions to their stock portfolio’s.

    • Obamamerica

      Maybe you should stop complaining and create some jobs for the Walmart workers and pay them $30/hr if you are so concerned.

      • Joe Palladino

        I don’t recall asking them to be paid more in my post. I suggested that maybe the Walton family offer needy employees a free turkey. The PR alone would worth 10 times what they’d lose. PR like this is a death nail for company profits. You need to take a reading comprehension course

      • Gay Veteran

        keep on licking that corporate boot

        • FounderChurch

          And you stick with Karl Marx.

    • craigzimmerman12

      The whiners should read about Sam Walton. He started with nothing but worked hard for 40 years to create the biggest retail company in the world. If you want to make good money, go to college, learn a trade, start at the bottom and work your way up, or if you have the guts, create your own business like Sam did.

    • FounderChurch

      Yeah, beat the cow to make her give more milk. Ha!

  • Momof4

    I fully support this, and I would contribute to this. They don’t make that much money, and the last I knew they only had health insurance for catastrophic events. I know where we live locally, there have been several times when I’ve gone to Walmart and one, if not two, greeters have been on oxygen. Maybe the workers will be fortunate to receive some of the profits back from the Walmart heirs……yeah, I’m not holding my breath either on that one.

    • Obamamerica

      Yes because the state should regulate all commerce and push us further into Collectivism. That seems to work so well in Europe.

      • ConcernedAmericaan

        Well, considering we already are pretty much Europe and have been for some time. For example, our school system and college degree system are from Prussia. American schools and college degrees are not American at all.

        It makes no difference to many Americans that some people can’t read after spending years in our school system. It makes no difference to many Americans what our literacy rate was before and after America adopted the Prussian system. It makes no difference to many Americans that college degrees have put many in debt to the tune of $1 trillion + (student loan debt). Many Americans fight against change or choice in education. Who cares if it is broken, just as long as we don’t have to face any changes or give anyone any choices.

        How many Americans do you know that took off work to watch the royals get married? Do you think America’s founding fathers would have missed work to watch the royals?

        It makes no difference to many Americans that we live in a class system via Social Stratification just like many in Europe do. It makes no difference to many that the wealthy in America get away with anything they want to, just like the royals and nobles in Europe.

        The biggest difference between Europe and America is that America does not have the excellent public transportation that Europe does. Other than that, we might be mistaken for twins by some.

        • FounderChurch

          All this caused Demon Rats.

    • FounderChurch

      These Reds are creepy.

  • kevnad1966

    Please stop with the rich-vs-poor crap; wealthy people don’t cause people to be poor……. government pretty much does that, and is marvelously successful

    • Gay Veteran

      gee, who do you think owns government?

      • FounderChurch

        DEMON RATS!

  • Obamamerica

    I’m sorry, I just don’t get it. Is every job, no matter how low skilled, now supposed to provide a “living wage”?

    Perhaps if the govt didn’t have so much regulation, didn’t have a progressive re-distributive tax policy, didn’t create a welfare state, didn’t outsource all the manufacturing jobs to 3rd world countries, didn’t indoctrinate its youth in Marxism, and didn’t devalue the currency first by going off the gold standard and now through hyper-QE, then the low skilled jobs WOULD pay enough.

    Here’s another point. No one is forcing the Wal-Mart workers to stay. If its not paying enough, GO GET ANOTHER F’N JOB THAT PAYS MORE.

    My gosh this country is full of collectivist a-holes!

    • Joe Palladino

      Actually $2000 a month should be enough for someone to live on and that’s what the average walmart employee makes. I’m not arguing they should be paid more. I’m arguing the stupidity of Walmart’s PR firm. Offer needy employees a free turkey and this story would never see the light of day. Articles like this kill a company’s public image and corporate profits.

      • ConcernedAmericaan

        “Maybe you should have gone to college….”

        Are you suggesting that more people become part of the $1 trillion + student loan debt? Also, how do you explain those that did go to college and can not find jobs, or have lost good jobs to the economy? What advice can you offer them?

        • EnjoyTheCollapse

          As long as we have a Walmart as the employee of last resort there should be no problems.

          • Joe Palladino

            Yeah that’s it! How about we just pay everyone a trillion dollars and hour then we’ll all be trillionaires! Yeah that’s the ticket!

        • Joe Palladino

          Vote for pro business, pro growth politcians that don’t over tax, over regulate and stifle free enterprise. Most college students voted to stifle business by voting for obama. That’s my advice to college students. There is no free lunch college students, wise up.

        • FounderChurch

          Root hog or die, BUM

      • quercus454

        I can guess you haven’t put a child thru school lately. Nor have you read the stats showing that near 25% of the newly college graduated cannot find jobs.

    • bwoboe1

      Why work at all if you cannot afford to live through the sale of your own flesh?

      • FounderChurch

        A true Democrat bum.

    • ConcernedAmericaan

      Yes. Every job should pay a wage that a working person can afford to live on.

      How do you justify CEOs, and others at the top of the food chain, making what they make? What are they doing, specifically, that is so skilled, that they deserve that kind of pay?

  • Joey

    So, it is WalMart’s fault that they don’t pay a decent wage? Or, is it the fault of the workers who choose that wage? Not every job in the country has to support a family of 4. 16 year olds who want summer jobs or jobs during the school year don’t have to support a family of 4. Perfect! They become stock boys or cashiers of WalMart, and those that need more, create their own jobs or get better jobs (we have youth unemployment of 20-40% because adults are settling for . Anyone who cries, “I can’t support my family of x when I work at WalMart” is loser crybaby. Don’t make ‘em if you can raise ‘em.

    • quercus454

      Did you ever happen to think that perhaps a lot of employees at Walmart started their lives in other occupations that disappeared. That perhaps they at one time were earning a middle-class income and thru no fault of their own have to work there?

  • Wally

    I have to agree with a lot of the posters. Nothing entitles the employees to any of the companies money. The company doesn’t owe them or have to give them jack. No one held a gun to their head to go work there. You can survive. You just have to do without the smart phone and the pricey cable tv. Try cooking at home instead of eating out every meal. Kids can help out too. I did when I was 15. I was buying my own food and my own clothes. Look I feel for people I know the economy sucks and jobs are going the way of the dodo bird but when push comes to shove you do what you have to do to survive. After 10 years of marriage my wife got very sick for 5 years. I was fresh out of the military. I had to transferable skills to real life. I delivered flowers, I worked as a driver then an assistant manager at a pizza place. I donated plasma twice a week. I worked as many as three jobs at one time just to make ends meet. I did what I had to do. I didn’t have a cell phone. We had a land line. We didn’t have cable just whatever we could get over the air and borrowed vhs tapes from a friend. In these situations you have two choices: Become a burden on society or pick your self up and do what you have to do.

    • Gay Veteran

      WalMart prospers because it has BOUGHT the politicians who have allowed “free” trade cheap imports to destroy American jobs

      • FounderChurch

        Democrats are the free trade leaders.Unions have chased our jobs overseas.

    • 2Gary2

      you really are dumb. Look in the mirror-your thinking is why this country is the way it is–huge wealth and income inequality.

      • FounderChurch

        Wrong. The lower class is groing because the Democrats are feeding and corrupting them with welfare

    • bwoboe1

      Where is your hate for high wage low skill manufacturing job workers? They became the middle class and then taught their kids to have views like yours.

      Pathetic.

      • FounderChurch

        Another Communist.

        • bwoboe1

          You have zero intellectual capital. You heard that word on Fox News and you think that makes you superior. Ad hominem does not the savant make. Learn terms and use them correctly please.

          • FounderChurch

            Not ad hominem at all, just accurate shorthand to call all Leftists Communists… America & the world are badly managed by the Left who follow a false god named Marx which gave us Stalin & Hitler & the likes of YOU Leftists… Search “FounderChurch” and reeducate yourself.

      • ConcernedAmericaan

        Also, where is the outrage for those that do little work making 6 figure, and up, salaries? In the USA, it seems the less one works the larger their paycheck. The harder a person works, the smaller the paycheck. If people were paid for hard work, carpenters, construction workers, plumbers, truckers, (insert blue collar job title here), etc. would be the wealthiest in society. Meanwhile, those that stand around an office talking about what was on t.v. last night, or discussing how they can squeeze 1% more production out of those that actually work, should be making minimum wage. Watch the t.v. show “Undercover Boss” to see how well those making the big salaries perform when they are where the real work is done.

        The hard-working, good-hearted blue collar parents, and grandparents did society a disservice when they handed their kids a white collar life, in my opinion. Now, society has too many unappreciative, entitled white collar snobs looking down their noses at blue collar people, demanding that blue collars get by on wages that many people can not even afford an apartment on.

        Remove the blue collar workers and middle class, and we will see how much actual work gets done. It isn’t until the garbage truck quits picking up that people realize, and appreciate the blue collar people that keep their world running smoothly.

        • Johnson

          You don’t necessarily get paid high wages for doing hard physical work, you get paid highly for being above average in running a successful business. Without these people starting and running companies most people would not have any job at all.

          • quercus454

            Yes but there is a disconnect. There is no social conscience. People have to be able to earn a living. If they don’t in this country, society steps up. A successful company should be able to pay their employees enough that they don’t require public assistance.

    • quercus454

      So would you rather they all quit and become wards of the state? The point is that Walmart could pay better and not leave it up to the public to subsidize their employees.

  • Employee

    I disagree with this article’s assumption that Wal-Mart does not pay high enough wages. They pay just fine because the people took the jobs. If the pay was too low then get a job somewhere else paying more….. Oh wait, there are no other jobs paying more? Oh, there are jobs but you’re not qualified for the higher pay? If there were a demand then Wal-Mart would pay more or not have enough employees and herefore loose business. It’s simple supply and demand. The problem is people want Wal-Mart to fix a local economic problem rather than the community fix it, make the successful guy pay for our mistakes it’s only fair. I suggest Wal-Mart close the store and leave, I’m sure all those people will get higher paying jobs from all the other companies there.

    • EnjoyTheCollapse

      Judging from many of the posts here, our country is certainly doomed when successful business models like Walmart’s start getting hit from both the left and the right side of the political spectrum.

      • MadMoto

        Exactly… This article is inherently communist

    • quercus454

      Had you lived in another time, I’ll bet you would have favored A&P’s monopoly too!

  • MadMoto

    Since when did it become the responsibility of a private entity to cater to the welfare of an individual? It is the individual responsibility to strive for a better wage. It is the individual’s responsibility to seek and education. etc etc… You see where this is going.

    • Gay Veteran

      since when was your “individual” capable of buying off the politicians so they can profit like WalMart?

      • FounderChurch

        Coveting what the rich have is a sin, you Communist Obama bot.

        • Gay Veteran

          stoopid pagan troll

      • MadMoto

        Most are not, but, they are welcome to seek employment elsewhere. Since when a job get paid as if it’s a career?

        • quercus454

          And after Walmart has destroyed the local community by forcing the small mom and pop shops out, where are they supposed to find employment?

          • MadMoto

            So your answer is punish the winners?

  • FounderChurch

    There is no such thing as a poor person on planet earth, and there never has been. If I were dropped by parachute into the poorest country in the world, unable to speak its language, and nearly naked without a dime to my name, I would do fine.

    If all the work I could get was pulling a rickshaw for a dollar a day, I would save ten cents of that dollar every day and try to save all of it by sleeping in someones basement, garage, or closet and do chores around the house for my bed and keep.

    At the end of a year I would have a nest egg of money to invest, and would become as rich as I wanted to in time. Life is all about attitude.

    Problem is, we live in a world of whining crybabies like many of those who post on this site. Disgusting creature, always singing the song called “Pity Me.” They don’t deserve to live, much less to be helped by anyone.

    And don’t lie about Jesus being willing to help them. HE WOULD NOT, AND DID NOT, AND SHOULD NOT HAVE. He was a Conservative Republican along with His Father in Heaven. Bottom line: Scum begone, shoot yourselves, and do the world a favor. I have no patience with any of you. Yes, there are a few, notice I said few, who legitimately should be subjects of our charity. But that is way less than 10% of those who falsely claim they need to be helped.

    Anyone we do help should be certifiably Saved, Worthy, and Deserving, along the lines Apostle Paul laid out when teaching about taking care of only CERTAIN poor widows in the church. Read it, and get it. .

    • Colin

      Jesus Christ said,

      Matthew 25:34-36 Then the king will say to those at his right hand, “Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.”

      • FounderChurch

        Perverter of Scripture. Context & interpretation are everything. It’s talking about saved believers in heaven who cared for Jesus and other saved believers who are worthy & deserving, NOT LAZY HEATHEN CRIMINAL DRUGGIE ALCOHOLIC WASTREL DEMOCRAT BUMS WHO HATE AMERICA.

      • ConcernedAmericaan

        Proverbs 14:31

        • FounderChurch

          Lefty atheists always try to use the Bible against Christians. How phony. Jesus was a Conservative Republican.

          • tih

            Kindly leave.

  • Lakedweller

    It is hard to believe anyone can write a post like this without some consideration for the actual value created by Walmart employment. Walmart provides employment for 2.2 MILLION employees, many of whom would otherwise be unemployed. Walmart has found a way to allow millions of low skilled workers trade their efforts for a wage. A wage (price for service) that is established through supply and demand, just as the price of gold, wheat, or any other commodity is set. Econ 101!
    If we chose to raise the minimum wage for people that are currently not able to trade their skills for a decent paying job, then we take away the motivation for improvement or higher education.
    If you pay people more than they are worth society runs the risk of rewarding people for being stupid.
    Walmart is providing jobs to the lowest possible denominator. How can you persecute that fact? They provide skills training so ambitious people can climb the ladder out of poverty.
    I’ll take a Walmart job anyday, over being unemployed.

    • ConcernedAmericaan

      Whom decides what a human being is worth? Whom decides whom is stupid? Whom is so wise and superior that they get to make those decisions?

      I have met people with little formal education that are brilliant. Meanwhile, I have met people with multiple degrees that can make one wonder how they even manage to dress themselves.

      • EnjoyTheCollapse

        Who decides what a human being is worth? Theologically, God does that. Economically, the Law of Supply and Demand sorts it out.

    • quercus454

      Unless you have ever worked in retail, you really don’t know what your talking about. The simple fact is, Walmart is predatory. They pay the minimum for any and everything. Labor, merchandise, building permits and local taxes are all rock bottom. They drive other business, who actually show some compassion for their employees out of business. While Walmart’s employees are working, Walmart is passing much of their cost of doing business on to the public. Why would you support subsidizing one of the most profitable companies in the world?

      Walmart is not much better then then the employer that hires illegal aliens. They both want as close to slave labor as possible.

  • craigzimmerman12

    I don’t know why this is such a big story. Is it so unusual to show kindness to other people?

    • FounderChurch

      Bums need kicked in the rear not kissed in the rear.

  • 2Gary2

    Thanks for highlighting corporate welfare

    • FounderChurch

      Corp “welfare” if there is such a thing lowers our prices and creates jobs. Welfare for bums raises prices and kills jobs.

  • 2Gary2

    There are a lot of really dumb posters–the point of this article is that your tax dollars are subsidizing walmarts low wages. Walmart can easily afford to pay a living wage. The waltons wealth is everyone’s wealth as they (the rich) have stolen everyone’s productivity gains these last 30 years,.

    The posters defending walmarts obscene profits have the IQ of a carrot stick.

    Its no wonder the wealth inequality is so bad–its hard to fix stupid.

    • FounderChurch

      Another Communist from the old USSR.

      • jackjuice

        and another jew from the ussa

        • FounderChurch

          To be called a Jew is a complement. To be called a. Communist is a shame.

    • FounderChurch

      Democrats teach the people to be slothful wastrels then complain about increasing poverty.

  • bwoboe1

    I am sick of these poor people haters on here. Why is everyone okay with the middle class being created by being paid well doing low-skill manufacturing jobs, but the idea of workers being paid middle class wages for low skill service jobs are frowned upon?
    We have a population and man can only sell himself if he has no other resources. Why do the rich need more? What do their hoardes of money stashed away accomplish? That money was earned through someone’s labor. That someone shouldn’t need taxpayers to pay the tab for Walmart.

    • FounderChurch

      Yeah, eat the seed corn, then starve.

  • sproutus

    Wal-Mart Low Wage:
    Wal-Mart low wage motive is a bit
    more sophisticated than most realize.
    Wal-Mart deliberately pays the lowest
    wage they can get away with, dependent
    upon each individual stores local labor
    market………..For a very specific reason.
    Welfare subsidized quarterly profit margin
    is only the icing on the cake to the rationale
    behind their low wage associate recruiting
    policy.
    Wal-Mart purposely targets the youth,
    ‘downtrodden’, uneducated and
    economically disadvantaged…….
    Not unlike the U.S. military does.
    Wal-Mart achieves this target through
    hiring anyone who will work for a
    non-liveable wage
    ……….Their goal is to recruit the
    ‘DOWN-TRODDEN’ within society!
    ONCE RECRUITED (‘ASSESSED’),
    THEY BEGIN INCULCATING THEM
    ……….THROUGH AN SERIES OF
    LENGTHY AND EXTREMELY
    SOPHISTICATED PSYCHOLOGICAL
    COMPUTER TRAINING MODULES!
    Once the ‘subject’ (worker) is proven
    properly inculcated………He or she is
    preferred for promotion into the ranks
    of the ridiculous multitude of store and
    department managers.
    THEY THEN BEGIN PREPARING THEIR
    NEW MANAGERS (promoted from within)
    FOR A LIFETIME OF SERVITUDE TO
    THE CORPORATION
    …………..THROUGH MORE INCULCATING
    AND NEVER-ENDING TRAINING MODULES (basically psychological operations).
    Psychological operations designed purposely
    to influence and indoctrinate the ‘down-trodden’
    youth that they deliberately targeted, thus
    recruited with their low-wage strategy……
    TO BE LOYAL MGMT. TO THEIR NEW FAMILY!
    Wal-Mart recruitment strategy is much more sophisticated than I can comment upon in this forum…….
    Other than:
    It is kinda similar to the U.S. military
    ………But Much More Surgical!
    (I’ve been inside).
    sproutus

    • FounderChurch

      Yeah, they HELP these needy people. What ya got against that, Lefty?

      • jackjuice

        left right pradigm is manufactured and divides

      • sproutus

        Legalized slave labor helps nobody!
        ……..It not only punishes the worker, but also the middle class!
        The middle class are the laborers
        who must subsidize Wal-Marts
        crony/fascist corporate profit margin!
        ………..Through taxation to continue
        funding interest on debt incurred to
        welfare and feed crony/corporate slave labor force!
        WHY NOT .50 CENT AN HOUR
        FOR THE NEEDY?
        (I hear TEPCO is hiring).
        sproutus

  • sproutus

    $7.50/HR.
    Wal-Mart recruits and ‘nurtures’
    people who have no other place
    to turn……….But the only employer
    who will hire them.
    Wal-Mart ‘welcomes’ their laborers
    with open arms
    ……….To fondle their new ‘associates’
    vulnerable and downtrodden minds
    into a lifetime of slave loyalty and servitude
    into the corporation!
    sproutus

    • FounderChurch

      Seems like your jealous.

  • sproutus

    THIS IS THE METHOD FOR
    THE MADNESS
    ……….BEHIND WAL-MARTS
    LOW WAGE!
    (inculcated youth to become loyal
    lifelong slaves).
    sproutus

    • FounderChurch

      Jealous. ..

      • jackjuice

        wtf dude you sound like you just popped out of a corporate ceos a hole

        • FounderChurch

          Only illiterates and trash use the Ghetto word “dude.”

  • sproutus

    A WAL-MART STORE WITH
    ANNUAL GROSS REVENUE
    OF $100,000,000.00 (hundred million,
    medium to small size store).
    Can still retain their subsidized profit margin
    ……..AND AT THE SAME TIME RAISE ALL ASSOCIATE WAGES BY 100%!
    RAISE PRICES ONE PENNY ON THE DOLLAR!
    EQUATES TO $1,000,000.0 MILLION ANNUAL
    ON A $100,000,000.0 IN SALES.
    One penny on the dollar for a hundred million
    dollar store is over $80,000.0 a month!
    $1000.00/MONTH PAY INCREASE FOR OVER
    80 STORE ASSOCIATES!
    But if Wal-Mart were to raise prices one penny
    on the dollar……..THEY WOULD LOSE THEIR
    PRICE POINT………(PUBLIC PSY-OP)
    They would lose their 8s and their 4s!
    (and they would have to go back to 5s and 9s
    price point)!

    • sproutus

      BUT IF THEY WERE TO RAISE WAGES:
      ………..THEY WOULD LOSE THE LABOR
      POOL THEY DESIRE!
      sproutus

      • FounderChurch

        And?

    • FounderChurch

      Demon Rat thinking of “one more wont hurt” that has wrecked our nation and the world.

  • sproutus

    Many Wal-Marts Across America
    …….”Pay-Less” Property Tax Than
    Your Dyeing 90 Year Old Grandad
    Subsisting Upon His Hand-Toiled
    ‘Homestead’!
    sproutus

    • FounderChurch

      Tax Tax and more Demon Rat Taxes. Yeah that will fix everything.

  • sproutus

    JUST ONE PENNY ON THE DOLLAR
    PRICE POINT SALE WOULD DOUBLE
    WORKER WAGE!
    …………AND NOT EVEN COME CLOSE
    TO AFFECTING PROFIT MARGIN!
    JUST TEN CENTS ON CORPORTE
    PROFIT DOLLAR AT 16,000,000,000.00
    WOULD PROVIDE $95.00/MONTH
    FOR 1.4 MILLION WORKERS!
    (WELL OVER $200.00/MONTH FOR
    ALL ASSOCIATES……EXCLUDING
    MANAGEMENT)!
    THAT’S ONLY TEN CENTS ON PROFIT!
    TO INCREASE ASSOCIATE WAGE 25%.
    WITHOUT EVEN INCREASING SALE PRICE
    ONE CENT!
    THEREFORE:
    THERE IS MORE SINISTER AND STRATEGIC
    MOTIVE BEHIND THE LOW WAGE!
    sproutus

    • FounderChurch

      Yeah profits to build more stores to hire more needy people.

  • FounderChurch

    Behind ALL Democrat thinking is the criminal mind of a lying violent thief & murderer

  • ConcernedAmericaan

    Thank you for the information, and for the sources. Thank you for posting.

  • jackjuice

    stasi jew

    • FounderChurch

      Democrats are racial & religious bigots who created slavery segregation the KKK the plantation welfare state communism socialism progressivism liberalism fascism & the Nazis. They hate God and all living things. They hate families children all races languages ethnicities cultures art beauty saving frugality and education. They hate all the virtues and love all the vices of humanity. Did I cover it all? I doubt it. Amen!

  • Rick Caird

    Not a fair analysis, Michael. It was, I think, just that store and the idea was that there were a couple families in a family crisis due to death or illness that they were trying to help out. We could see something like that in even high paying companies in similar circumstances.

    It had less to do with Walmart and their pay scale than it does with life in general. I suppose, though, next time they will put a jar in the break room, so they don’t get mocked.

  • Wowser

    And then Wal Mart will use it’s constitutionally protected right to lay their organized behinds off…. Now how about that bow boy?

    • bwoboe1

      They are already woefully understaffed, evidenced by their empty shelves and lack of associates to help customers check out.

      Lay-off away Walmart and slowly die a K-mart death.

  • jimnjoy

    Many people buy nearly everything from Wal-Mart because it’s less expensive. I asked one of them if she would be willing to pay a little more so that the employee’s of Wal-Mart could be paid a little more. She isn’t wealthy but she could afford to pay a little more. She said no. There you have it. The bottom line is greed. She isn’t willing to pay a little more and Wal-Mart isn’t willing to get a little less profit so that people who work hard and are trying to raise families could receive a reasonable wage. It’s all very sad.

  • sth_txs

    I do think most CEO’s are overpaid and it is a travesty that Wal Mart can’t donate some food baskets to those in need, but you can’t simply mandate a wage. I don’t agree with every WalMart policy but I do like the fact is my small town.

    As covered on this site and others, the big problems are the confiscatory tax system, too much regulation preventing business creation, along with the Federal Reserve creating inflation. I make more than most, but I can’t say I’m any better off than 10 years ago.

  • Mondobeyondo

    I know a few people who will not be having a Thanksgiving dinner this year, through no fault or choice of their own. No turkey, no dressing, no mashed potatoes or cranberry sauce. They were able to afford a decent Thanksgiving meal last year, or 2 years ago. This go-round, not so much.
    And when I mean no turkey, I mean NO TURKEY!Not even drumsticks or wings – and that’s sad, because a pair of turkey drumsticks is about $2.50 at the grocery store here.
    It’s worse than you think it is out there. Stop listening to the “Dow hits new record high” garbage, and see what’s happening in the real world, the world 99% of us live in…the ones who don’t have stocks.

  • brett

    Article says “Your taxes and my taxes are going to subsidize Wal-Mart. The government has to take more money from all the rest of us because Wal-Mart will not pay their workers a decent wage. Because Wal-Mart
    will not support them, we end up supporting them.”

    LOL! There is not even a slight hint of truth at any of that. Walmart pays billions in taxes. The govt does not take more from us because of what WM pays their employees. That is a bold-faced LIE! They take from us a percentage of our income based on our tax bracket. They don’t sit down and go “Well, let’s see how much WM paid their employees and how much they “should” have paid their employees and soak John Q. Public for the difference.” Anyone who says or thinks that is grossly ignorant on how our tax system works.

    While we are at it, why not pick on all the other businesses who pay their employees LESS than WM does? Why not pick on them? Is it because WM is so successful, that you communists who hate big business success has made WM your favorite and “go to” punching bag. You keep shopping somewhere else and I will keep saving money shopping at WM and actually support the very employees you claim to care about. If you want them to have higher wages, why not go into WM and give them tips? You could give them the difference in what you would have paid in items somewhere else and what you actually paid at WM.

  • JoeD

    Labor market has been ravaged by 30 years of consolidation, outsourcing, and automation. These three factors have done more damage to the American middle class than the taxes, regulation, and union boogeymen ever could.

    Bottom line is American consumers vote with their wallets without any thought beyond the immediate consequence it will have on their bank balance. We all claim to love the idea of a strong middle class, but when it comes time to pony up the truth is we’d rather just eat each other’s lunch.

    • quercus454

      I would add that inflation is another aspect that most people don’t think about.

  • quercus454

    Walmart has squad of full time corporate lawyers that specialize in union busting. They are ruthless and make it impossible for employees to unionize.

    Unions though, really are not the answer. As a person who has had experiences with several unions, today they are not much better then middlemen.

    • FounderChurch

      The more pressure you put on Walmart the more you lower the wages they can pay & force them to raise their prices they have to charge. Lefties always do that to any country.

      • FounderChurch

        Fighting Leftists is very expensive for companies to do which damages the economy. Get it?

  • quercus454

    Actually Costco employees have wages and benefits comparable to union workers.

  • Iheartsarahpalin

    Costco starts at about $15.00 hour and gives every employee good benefits and a turkey for Thanksgiving.

  • GPackers

    Very Disgusting. I am glad I am not a Communist, like some people I read and hear about every day.

  • brett

    The sentence above says “Your taxes and my taxes are going to subsidize Wal-Mart.” This is a blatant lie. Anyone want to explain how our taxes go to Walmart except buying their products where taxes are inclusive in the price of everything we buy.

  • Flatpicker

    My neck of the woods:

    Well, where I am is where the first and possibly worst infamous school shooting took place.

    A few years ago, we had a city police officer at a Neighborhood Watch meeting tell us that this city was the second worst in the USA for methamphetamine production. City Hall turns loose hundreds of drug dealers after they are arrested.

    During a phone call to City Hall, I was told that car thieves are turned loose and are caught stealing another car within 24 hours of the time they were turned loose. There is no such thing as protection.

    My own car (along with many others) was broken into several times in our parking lot and was almost stolen once. The driver’s door had been opened and the car pulled backward in a semi-circle and the front end of the car left sticking out into the parking lot. Apparently something scared off the thief (probably the neighbor’s dog) before they could finish stealing the car. This happened directly under a light at the end of the building. Many other cars and items from cars were stolen here.

    This city has a reputation for being one of the worst redneck cities in the country and its reputation is well-deserved. It’s hard to describe the personality of the place. The rudeness and crudeness and quality of everything is unbelievably bad.

    In a city newspaper there was a crime map that showed 5 crimes having been committed in a 4-day period right on the block where I live. One of those crimes was a violent one. And the 5 crimes didn’t include the burglary that took place in the apartment directly above mine because that one hadn’t even been reported yet. So there were at least 6 crimes committed in a 4-day period on my block.

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