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Government Agency: If 9 Substations Are Destroyed, The Power Grid Could Be Down For 18 Months

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North American Power GridWhat would you do if the Internet or the power grid went down for over a year?  Our key infrastructure, including the Internet and the power grid, is far more vulnerable than most people would dare to imagine.  These days, most people simply take for granted that the lights will always be on and that the Internet will always function properly.  But what if all that changed someday in the blink of an eye?  According to the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission’s latest report, all it would take to plunge the entire nation into darkness for more than a year would be to knock out a transformer manufacturer and just 9 of our 55,000 electrical substations on a really hot summer day.  The reality of the matter is that our power grid is in desperate need of updating, and there is very little or no physical security at most of these substations.  If terrorists, or saboteurs, or special operations forces wanted to take down our power grid, it would not be very difficult.  And as you will read about later in this article, the Internet is extremely vulnerable as well.

When I read the following statement from the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission’s latest report, I was absolutely floored…

“Destroy nine interconnection substations and a transformer manufacturer and the entire United States grid would be down for at least 18 months, probably longer.”


What would you do without power for 18 months?

FERC studied what it would take to collapse the entire electrical grid from coast to coast.  What they found was quite unsettling

In its modeling, FERC studied what would happen if various combinations of substations were crippled in the three electrical systems that serve the contiguous U.S. The agency concluded the systems could go dark if as few as nine locations were knocked out: four in the East, three in the West and two in Texas, people with knowledge of the analysis said.

The actual number of locations that would have to be knocked out to spawn a massive blackout would vary depending on available generation resources, energy demand, which is highest on hot days, and other factors, experts said. Because it is difficult to build new transmission routes, existing big substations are becoming more crucial to handling electricity.

So what would life look like without any power for a long period of time?  The following list comes from one of my previous articles

-There would be no heat for your home.

-Water would no longer be pumped into most homes.

-Your computer would not work.

-There would be no Internet.

-Your phones would not work.

-There would be no television.

-There would be no radio.

-ATM machines would be shut down.

-There would be no banking.

-Your debit cards and credit cards would not work.

-Without electricity, gas stations would not be functioning.

-Most people would be unable to do their jobs without electricity and employment would collapse.

-Commerce would be brought to a standstill.

-Hospitals would not be able to function.

-You would quickly start running out of medicine.

-All refrigeration would shut down and frozen foods in our homes and supermarkets would start to go bad.

If you want to get an idea of how quickly society would descend into chaos, just watch the documentary “American Blackout” some time.  It will chill you to your bones.

The truth is that we live in an unprecedented time.  We have become extremely dependent on technology, and that technology could be stripped away from us in an instant.

Right now, our power grid is exceedingly vulnerable, and all the experts know this, but very little is being done to actually protect it

“The power grid, built over many decades in a benign environment, now faces a range of threats it was never designed to survive,” said Paul Stockton, a former assistant secretary of defense and president of risk-assessment firm Cloud Peak Analytics. “That’s got to be the focus going forward.”

If a group of agents working for a foreign government or a terrorist organization wanted to bring us to our knees, they could do it.

In fact, there have actually been recent attacks on some of our power stations.  Here is just one example

The Wall Street Journal’s Rebecca Smith reports that a former Federal Energy Regulatory Commission chairman is acknowledging for the first time that a group of snipers shot up a Silicon Valley substation for 19 minutes last year, knocking out 17 transformers before slipping away into the night.

The attack was “the most significant incident of domestic terrorism involving the grid that has ever occurred” in the U.S., Jon Wellinghoff, who was chairman of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission at the time, told Smith.

Have you heard about that attack before now?

Most Americans have not.

But it should have been big news.

At the scene, authorities found “more than 100 fingerprint-free shell casings“, and little piles of rocks “that appeared to have been left by an advance scout to tell the attackers where to get the best shots.”

So what happens someday when the bad guys decide to conduct a coordinated attack against our power grid with heavy weapons?

It could happen.

In addition, as I mentioned at the top of this article, the Internet is extremely vulnerable as well.

For example, did you know that authorities are so freaked out about the security of the Internet that they have given “the keys to the Internet” to a very small group of individuals that meet four times per year?

It’s true.  The following is from a recent story posted by the Guardian

The keyholders have been meeting four times a year, twice on the east coast of the US and twice here on the west, since 2010. Gaining access to their inner sanctum isn’t easy, but last month I was invited along to watch the ceremony and meet some of the keyholders – a select group of security experts from around the world. All have long backgrounds in internet security and work for various international institutions. They were chosen for their geographical spread as well as their experience – no one country is allowed to have too many keyholders. They travel to the ceremony at their own, or their employer’s, expense.

What these men and women control is the system at the heart of the web: the domain name system, or DNS. This is the internet’s version of a telephone directory – a series of registers linking web addresses to a series of numbers, called IP addresses. Without these addresses, you would need to know a long sequence of numbers for every site you wanted to visit. To get to the Guardian, for instance, you’d have to enter “” instead of

If the system that controls those IP addresses gets hijacked or damaged, we would definitely need someone to press the “reset button” on the Internet.

Sadly, the hackers always seem to be several steps ahead of the authorities.  In fact, according to one recent report, breaches of U.S. government computer networks go undetected 40 percent of the time

A new report by Sen. Tom Coburn (R., Okla.) details widespread cybersecurity breaches in the federal government, despite billions in spending to secure the nation’s most sensitive information.

The report, released on Tuesday, found that approximately 40 percent of breaches go undetected, and highlighted “serious vulnerabilities in the government’s efforts to protect its own civilian computers and networks.”

“In the past few years, we have seen significant breaches in cybersecurity which could affect critical U.S. infrastructure,” the report said. “Data on the nation’s weakest dams, including those which could kill Americans if they failed, were stolen by a malicious intruder. Nuclear plants’ confidential cybersecurity plans have been left unprotected. Blueprints for the technology undergirding the New York Stock Exchange were exposed to hackers.”


And things are not much better when it comes to cybersecurity in the private sector either.  According to Symantec, there was a 42 percent increase in cyberattacks against businesses in the United States last year.  And according to a recent report in the Telegraph, our major banks are being hit with cyberattacks “every minute of every day”…

Every minute, of every hour, of every day, a major financial institution is under attack.

Threats range from teenagers in their bedrooms engaging in adolescent “hacktivism”, to sophisticated criminal gangs and state-sponsored terrorists attempting everything from extortion to industrial espionage. Though the details of these crimes remain scant, cyber security experts are clear that behind-the-scenes online attacks have already had far reaching consequences for banks and the financial markets.

For much more on all of this, please see my previous article entitled “Big Banks Are Being Hit With Cyberattacks ‘Every Minute Of Every Day’“.

Up until now, attacks on our infrastructure have not caused any significant interruptions in our lifestyles.

But at some point that will change.

Are you prepared for that to happen?

We live at a time when our world is becoming increasingly unstable.  In the years ahead it is quite likely that we will see massive economic problems, major natural disasters, serious terror attacks and war.  Any one of those could cause substantial disruptions in the way that we live.

At this point, even NASA is warning that “civilization could collapse”…

A new study sponsored by Nasa’s Goddard Space Flight Center has highlighted the prospect that global industrial civilisation could collapse in coming decades due to unsustainable resource exploitation and increasingly unequal wealth distribution.

Noting that warnings of ‘collapse’ are often seen to be fringe or controversial, the study attempts to make sense of compelling historical data showing that “the process of rise-and-collapse is actually a recurrent cycle found throughout history.” Cases of severe civilisational disruption due to “precipitous collapse – often lasting centuries – have been quite common.”

So let us hope for the best.

But let us also prepare for the worst.

  • Orange Jean

    Well Michael if it’s any consolation… failure of almost any large dam has the potential to kills thousands if not more. I once worked on a project related to potential failure for a major dam and I have a good friend who specialized in dam failure. This is because they put them in and then build too close downstream with some engineer swearing to God the thing is fail proof. Alas, nothing made by man is fail proof! Many things made by God as well (mountains fall, volcanos erupt, faults split, etc.) although some would argue that those are not failures but what God intended, I guess you could call it something else… but disasters will happen and there is not a darn thing we can do about it but try to avoid the most hazardous places and use our beans!

    For example, there is a town near me that was destroyed during Hurricane Isabel. Why? Because some idiot got the bright idea to build a small town in the James River’s riverbed! Not even the flood plain, the actual riverbed… where there was an oxbow and a bit of a “beach” created and visible when there was no storm surge coming. However, Isabel let loose an 18 foot storm surge up the James… and when that came anyone who had not evacuated and was living in that small town would have to climb up or otherwise escape up a steep cliff or die. After the storm, what did they do? REBUILD the darn thing! Not unlike NOLA, I might add…

    The problem I have with this article though (not that I usually have a problem with your articles)… is one of the ol’ “loose lips sink ships”. Even though you have gotten some of your information from Federal agencies (who were also stupid to put that information out there, if you ask me)… you may very well be giving someone “ideas”… of the sort we don’t need. You’ve collected quite a few trolls lately too, I think.

    • Tim

      Hurricane Isabel was quite a storm. I remember it well. I lived on the Chesapeake Bay–on Kent Island–when Isabel came right up the Bay. It caused tremendous storm surge. We left for higher ground and spent the night in a hotel. We we returned, we found that we had been spared. Our garage in the back yard did get flooded, but our house did not. Some residents who lived farther south on the Island had water in their homes.

  • libsfellatetheobamacock

    gary would smell worse than usual

  • Bill

    The POTUS is either dumber than a box of rocks or so controlled by others that he is incapable of making rational decisions dealing with the well being of our country. The national power grid as well as our communication systems should be a top priority for continuous protected service with backups.

    • willkes

      Nah he’s none of those things, he truly doesn’t care, he’s an end justifies the means guy, it matter not how it happens, only that it happens.

  • K

    What would I do if the power went off for 18 months? Do my best to survive, and help those I could. You would most likely lose half the population, in the first three months. I have seen tech. addicts, that can not handle a weekend camping trip, much less anything longer than that. And the cities, well the word horrific comes to mind. Will any of this change, doubtful. Remember some very rich and powerful people, are very much in favor, of a major die off.

    • CounterRevolution

      The “Tech Addicts” bit is a hoot!

  • Syrin

    And that attack happened in the middle of the night, and the Barney
    Fife’s we have who love bullying average citizens with their paramiltary Naazzii gear blew it off completely. Face it, the police, the DHS, the
    TSA, the FBI, the NSA and the CIA all view US as the enemy. Plus, we
    allowed the Russians AND Chinese to have access to our electric grid
    last December when they took part of the Grid Ex II drill. So these two nations who have BOTH threatened to NUKE us have had direct access to our single most vulnerable spot. Why?
    Because this administration is selling this nation out to our foreign
    enemies. Look up reports of Russian troops near Chattanooga, Idaho, DC,
    etc. Chinese troops in Hawaii. When the grid goes down, these
    foreign troops will be the ones going door to door to check on your
    “safety” by taking away your stockpiled food, any means you have of
    protecting yourself, and any hard assets you may have stashed away. WE
    ARE THE ENEMY. People need to wake up YESTERDAY.

    • DJohn1

      In my neighborhood they might get away with it or might not. Got a lot of hill people here and they grew up with a rifle in their hands. Might not be too safe for a while . . .
      Especially if word gets out that they are attempting that kind of action.
      I think they should start trying it in Detroit.
      That is not likely to be the first place it is tried. And if it is, I don’t think they will stop with shooting the people going door to door.
      More likely, they will be going after the people giving those orders.

    • CounterRevolution

      Selling us out to the “American Establishment” (Carroll Quigley’s (Bill Clinton’s mentor) description) that wants us in the United Nations so we can be ruled by them is more accurate. The Globalists who have been running our Republic since 1913 (Federal Reserve Act) have it all worked out.

  • Mondobeyondo

    If such a cataclysmic event ever were to occur — this country would be thrown back to 1814.

    • davidmpark

      If things get really bad then it will be 1814 for a year or so. Guys like me are printing off public domain textbooks and plans. I think it’ll look more like 1919, or possibly 1935 – with a @#$% load of corpses, crumbling cities, and a lot of welfare zombies looking for civilization.

      Just wait for the return of phonographs, telegraphs, steam locomotives, kinetoscopes, slide plates…

      And we know how to make penicillin, aspirin, insulin and such. We can rebuild. Just might be a while. In the meantime, we’ll eat a lot of beans and sing a few rounds of “Goodnight Irene”.

    • K

      It will be more devastating. At that time, the weather wasnt so extreme. The people werent so many and the farms were enough to feed the people. Now with this population it will be catastrophic. Also just feeding people isnt enough, people will need to have work And what will people work on, if the country is without power?

      Even with power, a lot of people dont have work, so imagine the situation without power.

      • K

        Not that I totally disagree. But this posting is not mine. K

  • DJohn1

    I would copy the Amish lifestyle since they live without electricity quite nicely.
    I would more than likely have a job waiting for me at the local newspaper as a Linotype operator. Since I am also a hot type printer. Linotypes can be run from a central pulley belt and a gas burner on the molten metal. I have seen it done that way in older shops in England. Unburying and fixing up a linotype modified to be used this way would be the main problem. We have at least two in the local museum.

    More than likely the entire country would go to generators for electricity and limit the time we keep them going.
    My own favorite generator is a diesel operated generator capable of using any number of fuel sources.
    At first we would cook the food on a gas grill outside used normally for barbeques. If the power company is not able to get power to us after a while we would start using other sources of electricity. Solar battery power comes to mind.
    We keep bottled water on hand anyway.
    Americans are survivors. At least my generation is. I have a boy with a small farm. Worst comes to worst I would move out there and help him.
    No matter what happens, no matter what is thrown at us, the real Americans will survive because they are a bunch of really smart people out there.

  • davidmpark

    Well, let’s see:

    -There would be no heat for your home.

    DMP: that is why we have blueprints and primers for a anaerobic digester. Gave a public system blueprint to the Bishop for a communal loo. This will produce natural gas and benign sludge. Heating and waste disposal solved in one system. Human’s okay, but I’d rather use the rabbit and chicken manure to do it.

    -Water would no longer be pumped into most homes.

    DMP: That system is read to go. Rainwater collector and

    -Your computer would not work.

    DMP: Anytime we had the funds to spare, I printed everything off the computer. The video’s are a problem, but not impossible.

    -There would be no Internet.

    DMP: Again, not a big problem. Got off the net most of what I needed anyway.

    -Your phones would not work.

    DMP: Built a wireless telegraph (“the internet archive” has books on how to do it). The 1920 telephone is nearly ready, but the switchboard will be a @$#%& to build.

    -There would be no television.

    DMP: Again, not bad. Got enough videos from Deseret Industries to last decades (5 for a $1). And the power system we have can sustain it. Also have 3 kids – they keep us entertained. 🙂

    -There would be no radio.

    DMP: I think this would survive. Building a radio is easy compared to a telephone.

    -ATM machines would be shut down.

    DMP: Get it all out now.

    -There would be no banking.

    DMP: Not an issue unless the bank is where one kept all their money. Food for a year followed by gold, silver, nickel, and copper will work. Borrow from family after the shock and crying is over.

    -Your debit cards and credit cards would not work.

    DMP: No worry. Just go back to older methods.

    -Without electricity, gas stations would not be functioning.

    DMP: Built a methanol system that can power our car for a while, and still building that old-fashioned horseless carriage to work off a methanol/wood chips system.

    -Most people would be unable to do their jobs without electricity and employment would collapse.

    DMP: Got nothing solid for this. Only learn an old time trade and get the tools.

    -Commerce would be brought to a standstill.

    DMP: it would be until the initial shock subsides. Then I think the old general store, blacksmith, village idiot will come back for a while.

    -Hospitals would not be able to function.

    DMP: This is my top worry. Did every I could right now to minimize that impact on my wife.

    -You would quickly start running out of medicine.

    DMP: Got a chemistry set-up and enough medicinal plants going to make her meds as best I can. Passion Flower and Myrrh are good for seizures, Aloe Vera and honey for trauma, Aloe Vera and Juniper Berries for diabetes, Garlic for blood pressure, Valerian for sleep problems, St. John’s Wort for depression, and so on.

    -All refrigeration would shut down and frozen foods in our homes and supermarkets would start to go bad.

    DMP: Covered it! Built an old-fashioned ice box (sent Mike a photo of it) and small ice house under the jungle gym. Also have blueprints for a solar powered/evaporative ice maker. Really cool!

    There are ways to fix this, and even with such a tiny budget like ours building a way around the problem is also possible.

    • Luis

      David… I like your attitude. You are definitely an american.

      • davidmpark


    • k

      What is the alternative for anitbiotics?

      • davidmpark

        No need for alternatives. Go online and look up how to make penicillin, tetracycline, and such. And there’s a few good books out there, like the Pharmaceutical Manufacturing Encyclopedia.

        Here’s a condensed instruction for penicillin from eHow (professional instructions make a cleaner product): Slice of bread or citrus peel, 750ml Erlenmeyer flask
        Media (see Step 4), 1000ml (1 L) graduated cylinder, Several clean milk bottles
        1. Prepare a penicillium culture. Expose a slice of bread or a citrus peel to a 70 degree Fahrenheit environment. A blue-green mold should develop.
        2. Sterilize the equipment. Place the flask in the oven at 315 degrees Fahrenheit for one hour, or sterilize in a pressure cooker for at least 15 minutes. Wash the milk bottles.
        3. Fill the Erlenmeyer flask. Cut the bread or citrus peel into small pieces and fill the flask. Allow to incubate in the dark at 70 degrees Fahrenheit for 5 days. After this incubation period, the flask can be stored in the refrigerator for no more than 10-14 days.
        4. Prepare the media. Dissolve the following ingredients, in the order listed, into 500ml of cold tap water (distilled is better): 44.0 grams Lactose Monohydrate, 25.0 grams cornstarch, 3.0 grams sodium nitrate, 0.25 grams magnesium sulfate, 0.50 grams potassium phosphate mono, 2.75 grams glucose monohydrate, 0.044 grams zinc sulfate, 0.044 grams manganese sulfate. Then add enough cold tap water (or distilled) to make one liter. Use hydrochloric acid to adjust the pH to between 5.0 and 5.5.
        5. Fill the bottles with media. Fill the milk bottles with this media. Use only enough so that when
        the bottle is placed in its side, the media does not reach the plug.
        6. Add the penicillin spores. First sterilize the bottles of media in a pressure cooker or in the stove, as you did the Erlenmeyer flask. When they have cooled, add approximately one tablespoon of the spores from the bread or citrus peel.
        7. Incubate the bottles. Allow the bottles to rest undisturbed on their sides at 70 degrees Fahrenheit for 7 days. If the culture has worked to produce penicillin, it will be in the liquid portion of the media following this incubation period. Finally, filter the media and refrigerate immediately. If you must use it, (although this should be avoided) use as soon as possible.

        For external, use pasteurized honey, Aloe Vera, or Myrrh.

      • Kim

        Wild mushrooms. I pick them here and the season is starting up again.

        We have morels and chanterelles abundant around here and I am very comfortable identitfying them. Last year I picked two large plastic bags full of morels.

        Mushrooms pack a great natural anti-biotic punch. FYI.

      • Foxtrot

        Echinacea, Pau D’Arco, Garlic, Colloidal Silver, Vervain. All of these can currently be found at any holistic grocer like Whole Foods or Trader Joe’s.

      • AustinRhea

        Lavender and Melalueca are great healing essential oils.

    • K

      Your preps are impressive. Just always remember low profile in the beginning. Even a well organized defense, can not overcome 100 to 1 odds or worse. Also make sure you have some over sized clothes for your family. If everyone else is losing weight, you had better at least, appear to be losing weight. Even as remote as I am, no smoke from a fire, and no cooking smells. Cold meals and no heat for the first couple months. Rough but necessary.

      • davidmpark

        I’m taking a different approach. Didn’t like the bunker mentality, or the usual prepper idea of keep it quiet (I’m not a prepper; for us this is economics).

        The local LDS community; what we call our Ward, with a collection of Wards forming a Stake, is my focus. I could be outnumbered 100 to 1; or I work with my neighbors before a crisis using Church doctrine, which makes such things prudent and needful, and not be outnumbered at all. More trade partners; more specialists; more defense; possible future suitors for our children; and civilization.

        Many of our neighbors (even the one’s that gave my family a hard time previously) are now getting their homes in good order, storing up dry goods, and planting victory gardens. We have a chance to get our rights to small livestock back on Mar. 25th. And we have both Ward and Stake emergency plans already drawn up that are very inclusive: all members no matter their ability or shortcomings are covered, and the rest of our non-member brethren and sisters are also welcome to join us.

        One cannot survive long nor thrive without a supportive community. This is true today as it was then and into the frightening world of tomorrow. I’m confident it will all work out. 🙂

        • K

          Well, then I will wish you the best of luck. You might want to read up on Quantrill, or Bloody Bill Anderson. I suspect modern versions of those folks, will be common if thing get too bad. But then I could be wrong.

          • davidmpark

            Hmm… Yes and no.

            Modern-day raiders will, at first, be fighting for sustenance. The larger the raider group, the more supplies are needed at a base of operations. And the larger the group, the larger the scores must be; or the leader is replaced with someone who will supply the group. Don’t expect raiders to number over 100 at first. 30-40 average. They had the backing of the CSA; today, probably no backing available. The more time goes on, the smaller these raiding parties get from attrition and desertions. All one would need to do is defend the community long enough to starve the raiders, then ambush ’em.

  • Roger Smith

    18 months?…..Newsflash: Shut the power off to L.A. for even 18 hours and we’ll see a situation unfold that will make the Rodney King riots look like Beach Blanket Bingo. And consider this….Most of L.A. gets water from the California Aqueduct system which depends on a series of electrically powered pumping stations. If those pumps go down, the city goes down….hard.

    • Orange Jean

      Agreed… and who is in charge of the water in southern CA? I don’t know if this is STILL the case, but when I worked on projects out that way 30 years ago… ALL the county and city water departments I ever met were run by foreign born Muslim men. I kid you not! Mostly Iranians, Afghans, and Pakistanis.

      WHY? Where there no qualified civil engineers who were US citizens? Or might this have been stealth jihad long before we ever would have suspected it?

      • Priszilla

        Don’t you know? You get more money being a celebrity, lawyer or banker than as an engineer.

        So kids want to be a celebrity, lawyer or banker. Investment banker with MBA, and a singing beauty queen as wife.

        They get their water from the tap and the food from the fridge.

  • MeMadMax

    “What would you do if the Internet or the power grid went down for over a year?”


  • Nicknakthetruthspeaker

    The good thing, they won’t be able to collect taxes! .

    • Guest

      Oh, I wouldn’t count on that. The IRS is likely to hire a million thugs to go door to door to collect taxes.

      • Kim

        U know they will.

    • Priszilla

      Not so important. They will accumulate, with interest. If the state needs cash, they can print it themselves.

  • wally

    How can you prepare for mass chaos? A couple of days without power and long island was turning into a zoo. EBT system goes down and almost immediately there is chaos. People are unpredictable. People won’t realize immediately how bad things are, but give it a day or two with no power and things will collapse quickly. If you can get out of any major city, first and foremost find water. No water and you die in 3 days. If you can’ t get out of the city, pray…Stores will be looted and stripped. Maybe friends and neighbors will be cool for a few days but when they start running out and people start getting desperate then it will be every man for them self.

    • CounterRevolution

      Looking forward to it.

  • chilller

    The gubermint divulging information about the 9 substations is an invitation to any terrorist group…are they nuts? Why not just place them on an on-line map for all to see? If there’s any place deserving of being shutdown and taken off line it’s the MSM outlets.

    • Orange Jean

      Good point… and you used to be able to download maps of where nuclear power plants where… at least before 911. I once did that (no longer have a copy) when I was trying to decide where I wanted to live.

  • pulltheweeds

    the cities would go up in flames after one week

    • guest

      I know, it will be fun to watch the yard apes ooking and the womyn screaming because they’re being ra ped by the yard apes, ( which is what they deserve for ruining this nation). I’m going to have a good time with it.

  • JailBanksters

    Well it’s good the Terrorists don’t use Internet then, otherwise the government has just told them what to hit.
    Or it could be …

  • Jackie Milton

    Personally i look forward to the collapse of this country. That’s the only way i see the present paradigm can be changed. I don’t really want a terrorist attack but i would like an economic implosion.

    • jakartaman

      Your wish will be granted within 2 years!

      • Kim

        I’m beginning to think the collapse is going to be a long, drawn out, torturous process.

        • Rob W

          … and it’s going to be bloody. Just look at the level of batchit crazy anger on this bulletin board.

          • Kim

            You’re right. And there is even worse batchit crazy anger on other “bulletin boards”, so your point is well taken.

          • guest

            I’m good with it and I don’t even care if it kills me. I’m going to go out there and mix it up with the zombies, kill a few, drink with the rest.

          • Eric Quintero

            You think this is bad? Check out a discussion on gun control once in a while 😛

            Molon Labe.

    • guest

      I’m looking forward to it. A reset, a moment to breathe. CRASH CRASH CRASH…… let’s get it going.

  • Tom

    It’s bad enough that evil people could destroy our grid in several ways, but our own government is shutting down coal-fired generating stations (one right here in my city), because of the bogus claim of “global warming.”

    It wouldn’t be so bad if they were shutting down “dirty” generating stations, once they had new “clean ones” built and online, but our government elites are shutting them down, with NOTHING to replace them. This will cause energy prices to skyrocket, and will also leave us with the very real possibility of rolling blackouts when there is peak demand (like third-world countries). Only stupid or EVIL people would do this to their country.

    • Rob W

      Based on well-established evidence, about 97% of climate scientists
      have concluded that human-caused climate change is happening. This agreement is
      documented not just by a single study, but by a converging stream of evidence
      over the past two decades from surveys of scientists, content analyses of
      peer-reviewed studies, and public statements issued by virtually every
      membership organization of experts in this field. Average global temperature
      has increased by about 1.4˚ F over the last 100 years. Sea level is rising, and
      some types of extreme events – such as heat waves and heavy precipitation
      events – are happening more frequently. Recent scientific findings indicate
      that climate change is likely responsible for the increase in the intensity of
      many of these events in recent years.

      • M miller


        • Kim

          Not it isn’t bull.

          • M miller

            It’s hard to argue with someone like you who has been brainwashed so I’m going to repeat myself…..”BULL”……do some research in something other than “Liberal Handbook”…..

          • Kim


          • wk

            Kim how can you make ‘ll thoughs comments about God and stuff and then say global warming is not bull. Lol

          • wk

            Never mind I was thinking of someone else

          • Kim

            To be clear, I do in fact believe global warming is real (not bull) AND a real problem. I also believe it is affected by human activity (pollution).

          • CounterRevolution

            Sheep always need a sheep dog don’t they? Who is yours going to be?

          • wk

            Then how do you explain all the colder weather. I think we might have climate change but not global warming.

          • Frijebai

            When it’s cold in the norther hemisphere it’s hot in the Southern Hemisphere. That’s how global warming works. It’s global.

          • wk

            Dude that just changing of the seasons that’s how you get spring, summer, fall, and winter. Have you ever taken a class in astronomy?

          • CounterRevolution

            Double Bull. I’m an Aerospace Engineer, I study the fluid dynamic ocean we call an atmosphere and Anthropomorphic Global Climate CHANGE IS A Marxist construct from the 1930’s. Once Global Government (driven by Wall Street) takes over and “War will end” they need something with which to control the population and levy taxes. Don’t be a fool, READ and you will be set free.

          • Kim

            Big bull

      • Rob W

        These uncivil replies to a civil comment meant to start a conversation show a lot about the state of conservatism in the US.

        • 23tony

          Only because the meme is getting tiring.

        • Mike Smithy

          You are quite right, Conservative’s have a brain and they are not afraid to use it. Unlike the Liberal Lemmings who stand for nothing and will fall for anything.

      • guest

        I agree. Quick everyone, run to the nearest internment camp and begin eating bugs. It’s for the children !!!!!

      • Drud

        As usual, the Global Warming/Climate Change debate has been arranged into two sides, both of which are almost assuredly wrong. The sides are these: 1) the climate is changing rapidly, mankind is the primary cause, Al Gore is an American hero or 2) Climate change is a hoax and the environment is just fine. The truth I believe in neither camp. The truth is that ice core samples in glaciers all over the world show that Carbon Dioxide increases LAG temperature increases, in other words, global temperature increases lead to higher CO2 levels, not the other way around. Furthermore, if CO2 levels were the primary cause of global warming, IMO CO2 production is looking at the wrong side of the equation. The more important factor is destroying the world’s ability to change CO2 to oxygen by burning vast swaths of the rain forests. Ultimately, however, the global warming push in this country is just another money grab by an ever expanding government. they have found ways to tax the food we eat, the water we drink, our shelters, and now they are compelled to find a way to tax the air that we breathe. NOW, the other camp is also wrong in this way: the global environment is NOT fine. the oceans are too acidic and too heavily fished, the soil has been depleted to drastic levels in many parts of the US, and fresh water supplies are being improperly used, abused and wasted by a system that is set up to waste and waste big on all fronts. I guess my most basic point is that we have many many problems in this country and in this world, and even if the “science” behind global warming was flawless, it is still way down on the priority list, unless you are a government constantly looking for new ways to tax your constituency.

        • Joe Average

          ” it is still way down on the priority list, unless you are a government
          constantly looking for new ways to tax your constituency

          Yes! Bingo! You nailed it!

      • CounterRevolution


      • CensoredThought

        Proof, please!!!!

      • GSOB

        “likely responsible ”

        go easy now.

      • Kay Mann

        you’re so full of carp it must stink to walk in your shoes. manmade global warming was a con job from the start, created to fool and frighten the liberal dupes, and it worked. so rob, how far are you walking to work? how much of your salary are you personally giving (of your own accord), to clean the air? hello? oh, you want money out of my wallet too? typical liberal. you’re just as much a hypocrite as the king of hypocrites al gore the snake oil salesman.

        • Rob W

          Digging up the old stuff to piss in someone’s cheerios, hey? I notice you can’t refute the facts. Must be a pathetic little life you lead, cumbucket.

    • sharonsj

      The Pentagon published a report on global warming in 2006. It said that global warming was real and that it was a bigger threat than terrorism. Are you claiming that the Pentagon is lying?

      • CounterRevolution


    • Richard T.

      I think they are evil to the point where they are making illogical decisions.

    • CounterRevolution

      Repost; Selling us out to the “American Establishment” (Carroll Quigley’s (Bill Clinton’s mentor) description) that wants us in the United Nations so we can be ruled by them is more accurate. The Globalists who have been running our Republic since 1913 (Federal Reserve Act) have it all worked out.

  • Vlad Lenin

    Quit with the boogeyman terrorism stuff…see how the gubermint has already conditioned you. The gubermint is the real terrorist organization.

  • K

    Not ‘decades’, it is this decade that will be the decade in which the current civilisation (globally) will weaken and collapse.

    All major economies are already slowing down year over year.

    • K

      Once again not me. K

  • CharlesH

    There are so so many horrific things that would come to pass and almost immediately. Imagine 23 MILLION Americans without their anti-depression, bi-polar, pain, etc medications and untold millions of drug addicts and alcoholics. Right there is a huge problem that we’d all have to contend with. I know many many people who would suffer nervous-breakdowns if they didn’t have access to the internet/cell phones. Food? What food? Within 72 hours the local police/state and National Guard would be paralyzed without fuel for their vehicles. The country would die a not so slow agonizing very ugly death.

    • Eric Quintero

      The meds would last for a bit. 15-30 days in you begin to have some serious problems..

  • jakartaman

    I was thinking that this missing 777 jet will be used to carry a small nuke to be exploded at 50,000′ over Europe.
    EMP shuts Europe down. This triggers a world financial collapse, which triggers civil unrests etc etc.

    • Mike Smithy

      Apparently, Israel is thinking the same thing.

  • sensetti

    I’ve read 9/10 people in the United States would be dead within 12 months. Large population centers would be killing fields

    • Priszilla

      Yes. The worst enemy of an American is another American.

  • grumpyhillbilly

    We had a freak snowstorm in Oct several years ago. Electricity was out for a week, and it has made me think about this scenario. The scary thing is the electric companies don’t employ line workers and technicians like they use to. The last ice storm, we had Canadians down here to fix the electric lines. Knock two or more substations out, and we’re really screwed.

  • masmpg

    This is really great media coverage. Typical mindless news reporting. What MSNBC should do is get with their best comrad eric holder and have him declassify all of our military plans for the next month and advertise them all over the internet so the world will know exactly where all of our ships, troops, and planes are located. Makes for an easy target. Then barry BOYS job will be complete without even having to take away guns. Does anybody agree how stupid it is to expose our weaknesses on the internet? Let’s just tell them which sub stations they need to destroy, and at the precise moment to cause the most damage. Reminds me of when komrad klinton and kohorts gave our stealth and delivery systems secrets to china during the johnny chung fiasco. Now guess what, china now has a stealth fighter almost exactly like our newest death machines.

    • Richard T.

      By the “newest death machines” do you mean F-35? Well, if that’s what you are thinking, please do some research and think again. F-35 is going to be the biggest military fiasco in the US history! It will not be the “newest death machines” as you think.

      • masmpg

        Whether the death machine kills us or them, I was referring to the stealth technology. And if you ever seen china’s stealth fighter it looks quite similar.
        I was in the navy just before the A7 was replaced with the FA18, on the Coral Sea and the Kitty Hawk. The transition is quite nerve wracking even in the days leading up to it. Lots of anticipation.


    With our open borders, lax immigration controls and craven political class we should not be surprised at the replay of the Day the Earth Stood Still. It is not “if” only “when”. How many Chinese double agents are here? Iranians? Venezuelans? NORKS? A United Nations of Terror is already here just waiting for the signal.

  • Undecider

    Heavens forbid. If the power went out, I just might have to get to know my neighbors.

  • Mike Smithy

    Dave Hodges from the X-22 Report has been talking about a plausible false flag event that involves the deliberate sabotage of our power grid in cooperation with our own government and the international banking cartel. I really don’t believe that his theory is insane and I believe that it deserves thoughtful consideration. Our government and the banking cartel will need a scapegoat to blame the inevitable economic collapse on. If they can frame the argument and manufacture evidence that indicates cyber terrorists from North Korea, Syria, Iran, Russia or even China orchestrated such an event, then TPTB know that they can “whip-up” the unthinking American Sheeple into a frenzy that will willingly go along with WW3. I think we can all agree that the “big reset” is coming. Do you really think that President Zero and the failed economic policies of the banking cartel are going to take the blame? I think not.

    • Eric Quintero

      The X-22 Report is awesome! Ive been listening daily for a while. Dave Hodges paints a very good picture of the geopolitical game of risk.

  • Kim

    We are just teetering on a disaster precipice.

    • Tim

      It’s utterly amazing that this house of cards is still standing.

      Sometimes I start to think that we (those us who read sites like this one) are wrong.

      • Robert

        Nope we are not wrong. A Canadian friend was saying how safe they are up there. I said to him you have this huge country and only 30 million people. Cripes, we have more people on food stamps than you have in your whole country. What if China or Russia decide they want Canada? Author Lee Childs once commented the Canadian army was two guys and a dog. Who would help them? Us? We have an administration that is gutting our military. I’m not sure our military could defend us nowadays much less fight another world war. But that’s what is coming. A 90 per die off would leave us wide open and vulnerable to an invasion. Sorry to be so negative but this site isn’t for entertainment, it’s for us to figure out how to prepare. This post is meant with all due respect to all above posters.

        • Oldand Grumpy

          I’m sure your contempt for the Canadian Military would be appreciated by the families of those who died fighting for your country’s occupation of Afghanistan.
          Next time we will stay at home.

  • Drud

    The title of this article reminds me of the punchline to a Dennis Miller joke: “..this report was released by the Department of Pointing Things Out to Terrorists.”

  • 23tony

    If the grid went down for 18 months, it would never come back up. Too much societal deterioration would happen in the interim.

    • Frijebai

      I agree and not just deterioration of humans but nature also. Nuclear and chemical plants would stop working and start blowing up and leaking out into the environment. There would be a lot of dead zones.

  • Ray

    Why not give the GPS locations and the best time to accomplish this. Some article are best left unpublished.

  • Priszilla

    Well, the Internet was designed at first for outages.
    If one substation went down, the packets in the internet would find another way to reach their target. That was the whole idea of the then DarpaNet.

    And then people started to censor the Internet. Then all packets must be routed over specific knots to filter out the “bad guys” and the useful economic data of foreign companies.

    I wouldn’t worry so much about the Internet. Even when earthquakes or fishing trawlers kill many undersea cables, the Internet will survive, albeit a bit slower.

    The power grid in the US is a more serious matter. And also in this case it would help a lot, if people would use less electricity, so that they can replace it easily by emergency generators when necessary. Hospitals should have them anyway. In China, you find emergency generators in factory and even high rise buildings.

    I would buy a diesel generator instead of a petrol generator. Diesel generators also take oil. Used oil from french fries, for example.

    Passiv Houses need less than 15kWh per squaremetre and year for heating and warm water. That’s very easy to supply via generator. And when you start to transform your property, you will create local jobs.

  • Priszilla

    All the immigrants would survive. Because that’s how they survived all the years of war in the Middle East, South America, Africa.

    And they would prove the most civilised group, doing business, schooling their children, making sure they always have clean clothing and look presentable.

  • Priszilla

    It will be good business to sell substations to America. For the likelyhood that they will be shut down.

    Siemens, ABB, Dong Feng Electric.

    Just ask them for a quotation.

    • guest

      Siemens is nobody’s friend. I worked for them for almost 20 years. They are garbage people.

      • Priszilla

        20 years? So they are all like you?

  • martae

    If these 9 stations were destroyed, the big blocks could be broken up, and power would be restored in most of the country. It wasn’t all that long ago that every city had it’s own power grid, and most big factories that used process steam generated their own power. It would become common for people to have their own generation,and batteries. It might end up being a good thing in the long run.

  • martae

    Physical law does not decree that electrical generation be centralized. Set up your own system, and stop paying electrical bills.

  • John Evangelisti

    Yes and No.

    It is true if a 100 MVA or bigger transformer needs to be purchased an average wait after placing the order is about 18 months. AND why you might ask do they not keep a few in stock? That is because of tax, more specifically the inventory tax on an item that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars. Economic behavior engineered by tax laws, plain and simple.

    Countering that is utility companies need to maintain some spare parts. What many do is enter into a cooperative pool, where several companies will share a spare located in a low tax jurisdiction. When one is taken from the pool then a replacement is ordered.

    The problem with all this of course is that the electric grid is maxed out due to population growth, and no amount of energy efficiencies will have a significant impact on that. The whole system of transmission, generation, distribution, and financing has been comprised by tax laws and environmental regualtions.

    It is not rocket science to figure out ways to take down major parts of a weakened grid.

  • Bill

    Amen, Bro!

    The main stream propagandists have squelched the scientists that don’t agree with the “computer model.” Computer models can be made to suggest anything their programmers want them to say.

    Notice how the “Global Warming” nuts had to change the name to “Climate Change,” when it became very apparent that we have more to fear from an ice age than being fried.

    “Climate Change” has been around for milleniums, their called Seasons.

  • GSOB

    “…all it would take to plunge the entire nation into darkness for more than a year would be to knock out a transformer manufacturer and just 9 of our 55,000 electrical substations on a really hot summer day.”

    This is descriptive of a solar storm. An overloaded powergrid falling like dominoes. An we see it coming.

    Severe weather has been the

    biggest threat.

    The FBI did not consider the transfomer snipers as a terrist attack. No cause for much media.

    The chances of the entire nation going out at once are not likely, we have monitoring technologies… but then… we still have a missing plane..

    I divert…

    Matrial law would be implemented, one state at a time,.. within two months if there were a national blackout,… worst case senario, I think.

    Martial law and FEMA camps.

  • libsfellatetheobamacock

    demorats son basura

  • Sandbagger

    Nikola Tesla

    ‘Nuf said.

  • Stuart

    Climate change is cyclical, in another 10,000 yrs we’ll be in another ice age and I’m just glad I won’t be here to experience it, I’ve had enough winter this year. Getting back to the subject, the Radical Muslims will try something soon, the influx of immigrants (both legal & illegal), the call for car bombings in the US from our friends in the Arab World and the lack of security shown by the DOJ, DHS, TSA, NSA, etc. can only leave us wondering when & where it will happen. There is a Muslim compound not far from Charlotte, NC in Clover, SC only a few miles from 2 nuclear reactors – the McQuire plant and the Catawba plant, there have been numerous reports of gunfire from the compound from neighbors – probably practice/training , but no one knows if its indoor/outdoor training or anything else about whats going on in there. If anyone has any info that can calm some fears please feel free to share or let us know if you have any additional info. Many thanks, Stuart

  • CounterRevolution

    Why don’t you send Russia, Communist China and Al Qaeda more detailed directions?

  • none

    I am so sick and tired of hearing about how hard the Russians are laughing at us.


    If you want to read a book, (Fictional book AKA The Muslim version of the Turner Diaries), then get the book from Amazon called “INVASION AMERICA” written by Alan Wing. It will leave you shaken and disturbed. I read these stories in today’s blogs and reports, I see what the Sand Flea Muslims are allowed to get by with and how they are put into very strategic places in Government positions. I begin to think that this book Invasion America is about our future that hasn’t happened yet.

  • Priszilla

    they originated in LA. not in russia, not in china, not in afghanistan, not in lebanon, not in india, …

    they are a true product of america.

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  • Saveheworldfree is not the kind of link that should be deleted. What were you thinking? Your name will now go on the published list of Godless uncaring people who Can’t walk the talk at the saveNaturefree website and will stay on the list until you act to have us remove it. All you care about is pride vanity and money. God help you.

  • I guess our government had plan for something like this. I hope. Even with 5 hours of blackout and I don’t know what to do.

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